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% every single time. Welcome guys to episode

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280 of Behind the Shield podcast. As always,

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my name is James Gearing and this week I am so

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excited to bring on the show... bethany hamilton

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now what makes it even more amazing is that she's

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about to embark on an international tour promoting

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her new film unbreakable and i was able to catch

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bethany right before she left the film in itself

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i cannot recommend it enough i actually watched

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it yesterday and i watched it again today not

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only is bethany's story incredibly powerful but

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also the cinematography is beautiful in this

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film so you must watch that So in this conversation,

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I want to explore the space between the lines.

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Her story is being well documented, especially

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some of the tragedy of her early life. But we

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went into fitness, into nutrition, into her mindset,

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what made her so successful not only as a youth

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athlete, but then post -injury as an adaptive

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athlete competing alongside non -adaptive athletes.

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So it was an incredible conversation. I feel

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that we covered a huge amount of topics in the

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time that we had. Before we get to the interview,

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Leave feedback. I love reading your feedback.

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And then use your social media. This is a free

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library of incredible people's life stories,

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philosophies, work. And my goal is to get it

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to the ear holes of everyone on planet Earth

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that needs to hear it. And so that entails you,

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the audience member as well. The more you share,

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the more you tell people, the more this grows,

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the more people learn and change their lives.

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So with that being said, I introduce to you Bethany

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Hamilton. Enjoy. Well, Bethany, I want to say

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firstly, thank you so, so much for agreeing to

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come on the Behind the Shield podcast at such

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short notice. Yeah, no worries. Glad to be here.

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And I want to say thank you to Eric Goodman,

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Foundation Training founder, for connecting us.

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Yep, I've been nerding out on Foundation lately.

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So if y 'all are looking to get your health and

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posture and body alignment functioning good,

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I recommend checking it out. It's amazing. Absolutely.

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All right. Well, I like to go chronologically.

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Obviously, I know we've got a time constraint,

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so I want to make my questions kind of short

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and sweet. But just give me an overview of your

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parents' background and then your childhood introduction

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into surfing. Yeah. Well, I was born and raised

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here in Kauai, Hawaii, where I still live. And

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yeah, I think for a lot of people, it's natural.

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They'll let the ocean be. kids playground especially

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my parents um being that they were surfers and

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i also had two older brothers who loved being

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in the ocean as well so yeah i guess we spent

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more time at the beach than the playground growing

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up and it created like a just natural love for

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the ocean and once i started surfing i just had

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a knack for it and really loved it and Especially

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as I got around the age of eight, I started catching

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waves on my own and just really fell in love

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with riding waves and the challenge and beauty

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of it. I started to get competitive. My parents

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were just super supportive of me along the journey

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and just saw all the potential I had and kind

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of cheered me on. Now, one thing I've talked

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about with quite a few people from either a coaching

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background or were athletes themselves is we

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see a lot of parents living vicariously through

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their children. So they put them in all these

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baseball camps, for example. And a lot of these

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kids are just – they're not going to get to that

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highest level. And there's a certain point where

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many of them even get burnt out or injured on

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it. You, however, the anomaly, you're the athlete

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that – just had that innate passion and that

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innate skill and picked up that specific sport

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so well. So looking back now, what was it about

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you and surfing you think that was so different

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than the average young boy or girl that takes

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up surfing but just gets to a certain level?

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Yeah, well, I think my parents were definitely

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living vicariously through me. they also had

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like a good healthy balance and they yeah they

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just supported me in a way that was like cheering

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me on but not like too forceful or too pushy

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and they kind of let my natural drive be like

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the leader so to say like from my vantage point

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and then they were just there to get me to the

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beach and Yeah, and then I think I definitely

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had a lot of the natural drive to be really competitive

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with it. And, you know, as much as I love surfing,

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I also loved competing and still do today. I'm

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just naturally competitive. So that kind of just

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was kind of my driver or my leader for the sport.

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Just to give you guys a background, I was winning

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almost every event in my local community. And

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then at 13, I was in the national championship

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finals and finished second in 18 and under at

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age 13 or 12, maybe. And so I was competing against

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high school girls and it showed that I was just

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going to be good. And so when I lost my arm,

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that kind of made everyone question, including

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myself. Yeah, well, so what I saw from, you know,

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the leading up is, you know, you had this passion.

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You also had this fearlessness. And then you

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had, you know, the incident with, you know, with

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the attack. Up to that point, the ocean was your

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solitude, your safe space, you know, where you

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connected with nature. What was that journey

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like? to get back to trust the ocean again and

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make it your your healing environment after you

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know that one moment yeah i guess um yeah because

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my world was flipped upside down and i i would

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touch on too that like i didn't feel really angry

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at god or i didn't feel angry um about the situation

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but more i've immediately felt like just grateful

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that i was alive and I knew that I could very

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well have been dead. So I think that helped me

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a lot rather than being caught up in just, you

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know, anger and hate and just, yeah, just, I

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think those emotions can really bring you down.

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And especially when you're in a such life, life

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altering circumstance, like. I just being grateful

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kind of led me to just be more positive and just

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be able to move forward. And I trusted and hope

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that God had more for my life beyond that. And

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even though it felt like really chaotic and not

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sure what the future would hold, I just kind

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of just kept trucking along. And then as I share

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in my new documentary, Unstoppable, there's a

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scene where. A guy named Mike Coots, who lost

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his leg to a shark, was like, hey, I went surfing

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this morning. It's totally possible to get up

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with one arm. So he was kind of my first light

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bulb of inspiration. And once he told me that,

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I was determined to get back in the ocean. And

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I guess my fear of sharks was not as great as

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my fear of losing surfing. Yeah, well, you touched

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on gratitude and that was another thing that

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was poignant from the movie. And by the way,

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for everyone listening, Unstoppable is not only

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such an incredibly powerful story, you know,

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of which the, you know, the attack is like a

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minute blip in your true life story, but also

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is so, so beautifully shot. But when post -injury,

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when you talk about being grateful that it wasn't

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your best friend Alana that was bitten. It really

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underlined the power of gratitude. Rather than

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looking at the one thing that you lost, you seemed

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to focus on all the things that you still had.

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Yeah, and I definitely did. And so as I started

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surfing, once I popped up on my first wave, it

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was like no turning back. And I was just on a

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mission to be the best surfer I could be with

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what I had. So, like we said before, I've had

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many members on here of the adaptive community.

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And obviously, you talk about your dad putting

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the handle on so you're able to duck dive with

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your first surfboard. But back then, that was

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before what we're seeing now with the huge adaptive

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athlete community. What was that physical journey

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for you? Again, realizing that you have to change

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the way your physicality is. finding ways to

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do it rather than you know the word that that

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you openly say you don't like the disabled word

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where again you're focusing on what you can't

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do but you apply what you can do yeah and i was

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definitely all about just adapting and i i just

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love the idea of like adapting because that has

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to do with everyone regarding regardless of whether

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you have a limb difference or a physical difference

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it's just life dealing with the ups and downs

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and the challenges and the painful times, um,

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just being able to adopt through those and kind

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of be resilient is so important. So, um, and

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a lot of that has to do with just the mind, like

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having a resilient and adapting mind. Um, cause

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especially as you get older, like I noticed like

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how the effects of being negative or, um, ungrateful

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or just kind of like, Doubting myself or my abilities

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is so powerful that it can just really hold us

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back from being our best selves or loving those

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around us well or being able to forgive those

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when they make mistakes or forgive ourselves

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when we make mistakes. Yeah, it can just be debilitating

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having a poor mindset. Absolutely. Well, with

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that, I mean, obviously, you've got the physical

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side, the mental side, were there any kind of

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types of therapy that you found work better,

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you know, to bring you not only the journey out

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of that initial event, but then creating a strong

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mindset for your athletic career? Yeah, unfortunately,

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well, maybe not, unfortunately, but I really

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didn't do anything special. In my younger years,

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I hardly even saw a therapist after I lost my

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arm, maybe like two times. But I don't think

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I suffered too much from like post -traumatic

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stress stuff. So thankfully, I don't think that

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was too much of an issue. But I think just being

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in the ocean was really healing for me. And just

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knowing that I could still do what I love to

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do most. And, you know, being present. like the

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ocean and riding waves in particular when you're

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up and riding on a wave it's like the ultimate

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form of just being present and doing what you're

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doing so that was pretty yeah it just worked

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out good for me and then now in my adult years

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um just as an athlete and a surfer I I definitely

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just kind of focus try to focus on my strengths

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and I do a little bit of um just kind of mental

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training like affirmation sort of stuff like

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just meditating on my strengths and what I can

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do and um yeah it seems to be helpful just kind

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of believing that I can do you use any visualization

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at all of the ways that you're gonna you know

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anticipate getting um I wish I did more of that

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I do kind of naturally I would say but like I

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don't have like an intentional like visualization

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time Right. Now, what about the breath hold training?

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You know, you're featuring in the movie Carrying

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the Rock Underneath, which looks kind of reminiscent

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of some of Laird Hamilton's stuff. What does

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your physical preparation look like to get to

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the level that you're at? Yeah, I always joke

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with people that I've been like training since

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I was, you know, seven years old because I would

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just go and like get pounded in the surf for

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fun or. You know, we'd go to like natural lava

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rock pools like with my dad a lot growing up.

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And he and I would like try to swim as far as

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we could underwater without taking a breath.

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So it's just and then also like I would go shell

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diving and just hold my breath while picking

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shells underwater. So I did all these natural

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like kind of playful training growing up. And

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then all my girlfriends and I would go rock running

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growing up. So now I'll just I still do some

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of that stuff, but I'll also just do like normal

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breath holding, like sitting on the couch or

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if my husband's driving, like sitting in the

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car, just holding my breath. Because he's a terrifying

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driver. Is that for training? No, for training.

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He's a pretty good driver. So thankfully. But

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yeah, and then just a lot of cross training.

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And I've changed a lot of how I do things now

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that I've had two children and just being a lot

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more gentle on my body. But I also still want

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to be explosive. So just kind of getting creative

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with that with different trainers. And I've been

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dabbling with foundation and just trying to keep

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the fluidity in my movement as well, though.

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Like kind of, I don't know, a lot of the stuff

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I do is like very. Has like dancer, kind of dancer

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-esque sort of movements. Just because surfing,

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you don't want to be rigid, but you want to be

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flowing and kind of forget what the terms are.

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There's terms for it all, but be like kinetic,

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flowing movement throughout the whole body. Absolutely.

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Well, you mentioned the children as well. So

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a very kind of pertinent thing for me, a couple

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of things. When you first got pregnant, you know,

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as people will see when they watch the film,

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there were some challenges in your performance.

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But then when you were more heavily pregnant,

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you noticed that actually you were surfing better.

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So tell me about that experience because I think

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that was a beautiful thing seeing you, you know,

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I'm assuming you were probably six or seven months

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by that point riding some of your best waves.

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yeah it was interesting that wasn't definitely

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not part of my plan to get better at surfing

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while I was pregnant I guess a lot of people

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there's a lot of different opinions about that

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sort of stuff but growing up in Hawaii you're

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always seeing pregnant women surfing like it's

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kind of normal and um it's not much of a worry

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um so yeah surfing was like surfing while I was

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pregnant wasn't like really a question so to

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say um but the cool thing was you know a lot

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of people don't realize but I'm almost six foot

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tall and um I'm pretty like really naturally

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strong and then plus I cross train so I have

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cross training strength and so I surf very strong

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and kind of powerful and like heavy back footed

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So when I was pregnant, it kind of forced me

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to just kind of slow things down a bit and just

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get more smooth, which was something I wanted

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in my surfing. It was just hard to make myself

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do. But being pregnant kind of just naturally

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made me do that more. And then so that was kind

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of how I got better in that, like, I just got

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smoother and more flowing. um and then i try

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to like keep that going after i got pregnant

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too or once i had the baby just kind of keep

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that natural approach just a bit more smooth

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and flowing with the with the waves yeah and

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it struck me as you know like you said that there

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there's a you know polarizing opinions of that

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but what i see um especially here in the u .s

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at the moment is that it's deemed healthy to

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put on 30, 40, 50 pounds during pregnancy and

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not exercise, but it's deemed unhealthy to be

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in the gym or on the water until you almost have

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the child. And I personally think that's completely

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backwards. Oh, my gosh. I was going to hold myself

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back from saying some stuff like that. Go ahead.

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A lot of pregnant women just eating whatever

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they want just because they think, oh, I can

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do whatever I want while I'm pregnant. But really,

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you should be eating nourishing, nourishing healthy

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foods for your body and for your baby. And these

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so -called cravings shouldn't be the leader of

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what you eat. rather what the best interest in

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hand for your baby and for yourself while you're

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growing a little human being and even that goes

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into childhood too like you hear these comments

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of like oh kids can get away with whatever eating

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whatever but like they're in the most critical

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development in the younger years so they should

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be eating more nourishing and more healthy foods

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than ever as children to grow a nourishing healthy

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mind and body and just be a healthy human so

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there's just like kind of a lot of like kind

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of lame excuses out there that aren't good for

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anyone yeah no i agree one of the things i'm

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trying to i mean i'm not personally trying to

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fix but hopefully being part of the tapestry

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to fix it is is the food in the schools you know

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this is the most crucial time to teach kids about

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food and eating and cooking and we're kind of

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screwing it up Oh, my gosh. That's amazing. I

00:21:35.089 --> 00:21:37.509
love that you're doing that. My husband and I

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are actually planning to homeschool our kids,

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and I have all kinds of plans to educate them

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really thoroughly in health. I mean, naturally,

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they'll just learn because that's how we live

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and eat, and that's our way of life. But I want

00:21:53.869 --> 00:21:56.549
them to have all the knowledge behind it so that

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they're driven in their own knowledge to take

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care of themselves. young adults absolutely now

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what are some of your philosophies nutrition

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wise to perform the level that you do oh yeah

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i mean um i just eat pretty whole foodie and

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um we eat like grass -fed and humanely raised

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animal and um i personally have been eating like

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a lot of bone broth and just a lot of veggies

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and um some Kind of like, what do you call them?

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Squashes and sweet potatoes and stuff like that.

00:22:37.029 --> 00:22:41.049
Not too much green. Yeah, it's interesting just

00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:45.450
kind of going into adulthood as a woman. It feels

00:22:45.450 --> 00:22:48.869
harder to kind of just be really slim or whatever,

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even with the amount that I move. So I feel like

00:22:51.849 --> 00:22:54.769
I'm always trying to work out what's best for

00:22:54.769 --> 00:22:59.299
me. And energy -wise, too. I just do so much

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and I know that I'm pushing my body more than

00:23:01.619 --> 00:23:05.420
the average kind of human. And so finding ways

00:23:05.420 --> 00:23:09.819
to support it the best I can that empower me

00:23:09.819 --> 00:23:13.579
to have good energy and good recovery and strength.

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Right. Well, you also in the film start realizing

00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:23.140
areas of surfing, which is a very broad spectrum

00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:26.400
of styles. that you want to improve on which

00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:28.099
I thought was phenomenal because you didn't just

00:23:28.099 --> 00:23:31.220
stay in your lane and I mean that in a positive

00:23:31.220 --> 00:23:34.420
way but you realized that there was aerial and

00:23:34.420 --> 00:23:37.779
big wave and barrel and all these other specialties

00:23:37.779 --> 00:23:40.259
that you wanted to conquer you wanted to add

00:23:40.259 --> 00:23:42.559
yet another layer to your already incredible

00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:46.200
surfing so was there like a pivotal moment that

00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.920
started that thought process or was it kind of

00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.400
again from that little eight -year -old girl?

00:23:52.040 --> 00:23:54.839
Yeah, I mean, ever since I was a young girl,

00:23:54.940 --> 00:23:59.319
I think I started doing my first airs when I

00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:03.440
was 12. And I was also going for barely waves

00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:07.819
at that age and big waves. So I think I've always

00:24:07.819 --> 00:24:11.980
wanted to just be a really well -rounded surfer

00:24:11.980 --> 00:24:15.880
and kind of push myself in all aspects. it just

00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.900
keeps it really fun too and like not boring like

00:24:18.900 --> 00:24:21.759
when you just focus on you know I love actually

00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:24.220
surfing little waves too and like trying to push

00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:26.619
myself in little waves and like to perform well

00:24:26.619 --> 00:24:30.799
um but I also love huge waves like I just I love

00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:33.579
it all and I love being able to kind of push

00:24:33.579 --> 00:24:36.059
myself in all areas whatever the ocean provides

00:24:36.059 --> 00:24:38.599
then we just go for it and like have fun with

00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:44.420
it um so it was cool like Being in the filmmaking

00:24:44.420 --> 00:24:51.720
space, we allowed more freedom to just have the

00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.000
time to put the energy and focus on all these

00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.460
different aspects, whereas otherwise I would

00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:01.880
have been having to do other work stuff that

00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:06.559
would pull from my focus. Making the film just

00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:09.599
provided that open space to really work hard

00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:11.880
and push myself in all the different areas of

00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.180
surfing. Yeah, it was just so much fun. I just,

00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:17.559
you know, like for me, it wasn't definitely,

00:25:17.660 --> 00:25:19.839
it wasn't about making the film, but it was just

00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:22.059
like, oh yeah, let's make the film so I can go

00:25:22.059 --> 00:25:26.539
on surf trips. And then even like, like a lot

00:25:26.539 --> 00:25:29.339
of my drive after have, once I found out I was

00:25:29.339 --> 00:25:31.299
pregnant, I was like, well, should we do this

00:25:31.299 --> 00:25:35.220
film? And I was like, well, I just want to have

00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:37.960
like the motivation to keep surfing and pushing

00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.500
myself after I have the baby. So yeah, let's

00:25:40.500 --> 00:25:43.619
keep doing the film. Another thing that really

00:25:43.619 --> 00:25:46.240
struck me about the film is you were very vulnerable

00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.980
and honest in the storytelling of it. And there

00:25:48.980 --> 00:25:53.740
was that moment when you had Tobias where you

00:25:53.740 --> 00:25:58.890
struggled with the surfing. you know you're surfing

00:25:58.890 --> 00:26:01.309
tracked and and motherhood and i thought that

00:26:01.309 --> 00:26:03.890
was probably a crossroads that a lot of you know

00:26:03.890 --> 00:26:06.269
moms and dads find themselves where yeah of course

00:26:06.269 --> 00:26:09.309
a child is as you know now completely changes

00:26:09.309 --> 00:26:11.410
the way you look at life and you know even like

00:26:11.410 --> 00:26:13.930
time management and that kind of thing so what

00:26:13.930 --> 00:26:18.069
was that experience for you like oh it's definitely

00:26:18.069 --> 00:26:21.769
a big adjustment phase and kind of um just finding

00:26:21.769 --> 00:26:25.190
the balance is still to this day a continual

00:26:25.190 --> 00:26:30.019
thing and um But like it's cool with professional

00:26:30.019 --> 00:26:33.680
surfing, like my kids can come to the beach with

00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.200
me or they can kind of distract me from my gym

00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.859
focus. And I don't mind that. And I like having

00:26:40.859 --> 00:26:44.420
them just be a part of my life and be in kind

00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:46.480
of the thick of it all. And they travel with

00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:49.019
us a lot, too, or they travel with us everywhere

00:26:49.019 --> 00:26:53.079
just about. So I just love kind of incorporating

00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.640
them into our world. You know, we'll do kids

00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.099
stuff, but they also come along for a mom and

00:26:59.099 --> 00:27:03.680
dad at a time. So, yeah, I think it just makes

00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.079
for a really special upbringing. And if they

00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.140
couldn't be a part of it, I probably wouldn't

00:27:08.140 --> 00:27:10.900
want to do it all or do as much as I'm doing.

00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:14.220
But thankfully, like my husband and I, we just

00:27:14.220 --> 00:27:18.640
we teamwork everything we do. We have kind of

00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.740
a lot of different facets going on from just,

00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.960
you know, I do some. motivational speaking I

00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:27.039
do endorsements and now we've launched our own

00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.339
online e -course for empowering people to live

00:27:30.339 --> 00:27:34.259
their unstoppable life and so we have a lot of

00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:35.859
different things going on and then this year

00:27:35.859 --> 00:27:37.980
I'm going to be competing full -time on the world

00:27:37.980 --> 00:27:41.519
qualifying series as well so there's just a lot

00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.859
kind of on our plate but we just kind of like

00:27:43.859 --> 00:27:46.720
pass the kids back and forth and we have a lot

00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.940
of family who live nearby so we can drop the

00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:51.579
kids with grandpa and grandma here and there

00:27:51.579 --> 00:27:55.480
and Yeah, it works out good. So I just love being

00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:58.519
able to share life super thoroughly with them.

00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.940
And I want to raise my kids. I don't want someone

00:28:01.940 --> 00:28:05.680
else raising my kids. So I'm thankful that I

00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:09.339
can. That is amazing. And it's a very sad thing,

00:28:09.380 --> 00:28:10.980
kind of like the pregnancy thing we were talking

00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:13.059
about earlier, when you also hear someone say,

00:28:13.259 --> 00:28:16.799
well, we have kids now, so we can't travel anymore.

00:28:16.980 --> 00:28:19.000
Whatever it is, I can't pursue this dream anymore.

00:28:19.140 --> 00:28:23.099
And that's so wrong. You can engineer so many

00:28:23.099 --> 00:28:24.859
situations where you can. It may not be all the

00:28:24.859 --> 00:28:26.920
time, but my little boy, who you're going to

00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:28.700
meet in a minute, which is brilliant, because

00:28:28.700 --> 00:28:32.099
you're definitely one of his heroes, he's been

00:28:32.099 --> 00:28:35.119
all around the world. I mean, the first time

00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:36.839
he was six weeks old when I took him home back

00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.420
to England. But yeah, I mean, there's no better

00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:43.859
way of giving a child a grounding of, you know,

00:28:43.859 --> 00:28:46.680
the humans that inhabit this planet with us than

00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:48.940
to take them around the world and show them all

00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:52.460
these other cultures. Yeah, it really is special.

00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.799
Yeah, my four -year -old has spent most of his

00:28:55.799 --> 00:29:02.900
birthdays internationally. And he does great

00:29:02.900 --> 00:29:05.839
with other kids, but he also has a really great

00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:10.759
ability to interact with adults and just people

00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.079
of all different backgrounds. So it's cool to

00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:16.799
just see how he is developing in such a beautiful

00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:21.299
way to be just an awesome human. Absolutely.

00:29:21.500 --> 00:29:23.180
Well, you mentioned the Unstoppable Year. So

00:29:23.180 --> 00:29:25.200
let's talk about that for a moment. What made

00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.119
you come up with that platform and tell people

00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.910
exactly what it is? Yeah, well, I've always loved

00:29:30.910 --> 00:29:33.809
like just encouraging other people. And often

00:29:33.809 --> 00:29:36.369
I've done that through storytelling, my book

00:29:36.369 --> 00:29:43.630
and now my films. And then also, I'm pretty present

00:29:43.630 --> 00:29:46.730
on social media, but I also don't really like

00:29:46.730 --> 00:29:48.950
social media that much. I just think it's a really

00:29:48.950 --> 00:29:51.789
dark and kind of awful place for a lot of people.

00:29:52.509 --> 00:29:54.690
And they don't really know why and they don't

00:29:54.690 --> 00:29:57.089
know how to set that boundaries for themselves

00:29:57.089 --> 00:30:01.970
to kind of, yeah, just recognize that social

00:30:01.970 --> 00:30:05.650
media has a really dark impact maybe for a lot

00:30:05.650 --> 00:30:10.089
of them. So and I also felt like it's very shallow

00:30:10.089 --> 00:30:13.029
and I just kind of wanted to create a space that

00:30:13.029 --> 00:30:16.529
was a really safe because I speak to a lot of

00:30:16.529 --> 00:30:18.809
young people. And so I want it to be a safe and

00:30:18.809 --> 00:30:22.900
healthy place for kids. So the Unstoppable Course,

00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.460
we wanted to create that and just empower them,

00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:28.500
but also equip them to live an unstoppable life

00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:32.480
and to recognize that they can overcome and to

00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.880
empower them to just be thoughtful humans in

00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.119
the way they live their life. And so we talk

00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.980
about mindset, slowing themselves down and being

00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:48.900
present, how to overcome obstacles. how to live

00:30:48.900 --> 00:30:52.700
passionately, uh, how to live healthily and kind

00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:55.220
of, it's like this ultimate kind of package of

00:30:55.220 --> 00:30:59.279
like, it's a year long course too. So it takes

00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.980
to me to have like true change takes time. So

00:31:02.980 --> 00:31:06.259
yeah, we're just empowering them through a long

00:31:06.259 --> 00:31:08.819
year of like really encouraging them in their

00:31:08.819 --> 00:31:12.200
journey. And, um, it's been really fun so far

00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.279
cause I've just like hearing the feedback, um,

00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.839
people are. are definitely going to finish the

00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.680
year with their lives being changed. So that's

00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:22.559
a big goal of mine is just to change people's

00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.400
lives in a real way that actually is long lasting.

00:31:27.259 --> 00:31:29.869
Brilliant. Well, I've got my little boy. starting

00:31:29.869 --> 00:31:32.630
on this so i will let you know how he does he's

00:31:32.630 --> 00:31:34.609
he's definitely had some of the challenges you

00:31:34.609 --> 00:31:37.029
know with that a lot of you know young kids these

00:31:37.029 --> 00:31:39.190
days especially with like you said social media

00:31:39.190 --> 00:31:41.410
and then you know some of the the dangers in

00:31:41.410 --> 00:31:44.769
the schools um there are some stresses on him

00:31:44.769 --> 00:31:47.490
so it's so great that he has someone you know

00:31:47.490 --> 00:31:50.490
who he respects that he can you know watch every

00:31:50.490 --> 00:31:52.609
day and you mentioned about having other other

00:31:52.609 --> 00:31:55.109
inspirational people on there as well and just

00:31:55.109 --> 00:31:57.230
give a positive platform that your kids can go

00:31:57.230 --> 00:32:00.150
to and maybe you know on a daily basis or even

00:32:00.150 --> 00:32:01.769
if they're not having such a great day they can

00:32:01.769 --> 00:32:04.230
go back and listen to some of them again yeah

00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:06.970
and then we do like the live q and a's so they

00:32:06.970 --> 00:32:10.789
can like kind of see us each month and ask questions

00:32:10.789 --> 00:32:14.200
and just kind of get deeper on some of the topics

00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.759
that maybe they're struggling with more than

00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:19.519
the other topic. And yeah, it's really fun. I

00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.839
love being able to do what I do. And on top of

00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.940
that, still be surfing and mommying and wife

00:32:25.940 --> 00:32:30.099
and yeah, just valuing my family time and travel.

00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.400
And yeah, we're kind of doing a lot of like ultimate,

00:32:33.460 --> 00:32:37.519
ultimate living. Absolutely. Well, another area

00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.700
that you kind of touch on, you just certainly

00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:44.089
don't, you know, like preach too much about it

00:32:44.089 --> 00:32:46.450
but faith is obviously a very important thing

00:32:46.450 --> 00:32:49.569
to you so you know how has that factored into

00:32:49.569 --> 00:32:54.450
certain areas of your life oh yeah for sure um

00:32:54.450 --> 00:32:58.109
i i mean definitely when i lost my arm like i

00:32:58.109 --> 00:33:00.990
already believed in god and i believe that like

00:33:00.990 --> 00:33:03.509
i understood that like the world wasn't a perfect

00:33:03.509 --> 00:33:07.089
place and that i didn't expect my life to be

00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:11.089
perfect either um so when i lost my arm i think

00:33:11.089 --> 00:33:14.950
a lot of that kind of led me to be positive and

00:33:14.950 --> 00:33:18.910
be thankful that I was alive and living and,

00:33:18.910 --> 00:33:22.349
and to be hopeful that there was more than this

00:33:22.349 --> 00:33:26.250
current chaos that I was facing. And then even

00:33:26.250 --> 00:33:28.710
to this day, like still, yeah. And just like

00:33:28.710 --> 00:33:31.490
my Christian faith has definitely taught me a

00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:34.289
lot about forgiveness too, because God forever

00:33:34.289 --> 00:33:38.150
forgives us no matter what we're. how awful we

00:33:38.150 --> 00:33:41.769
may be and I think like in the marriage relationship

00:33:41.769 --> 00:33:44.470
especially like being able to forgive your spouse

00:33:44.470 --> 00:33:48.430
or you know ask them to forgive you is like so

00:33:48.430 --> 00:33:53.809
so key and so it's kind of been a strong point

00:33:53.809 --> 00:33:56.130
for my husband and even though we've only been

00:33:56.130 --> 00:33:58.549
married now for like we're coming up on our seventh

00:33:58.549 --> 00:34:01.809
anniversary but um yeah we're going strong and

00:34:01.809 --> 00:34:03.950
we love each other and we love doing life with

00:34:03.950 --> 00:34:07.390
each other so I feel thankful to like my faith

00:34:07.390 --> 00:34:11.250
for that. And, um, yeah, it carries a lot into

00:34:11.250 --> 00:34:14.550
parenthood too. And yeah, just overcoming hard

00:34:14.550 --> 00:34:17.849
times. So, yeah. Well, and also what I've seen,

00:34:17.909 --> 00:34:19.429
you know, from the outside looking in as your.

00:34:20.349 --> 00:34:22.170
You're interpreting your faith, you know, in

00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:24.070
a very, very positive way with the gratitude,

00:34:24.130 --> 00:34:26.170
the compassion and the kindness. And, you know,

00:34:26.170 --> 00:34:28.250
that I think is what no matter what people's

00:34:28.250 --> 00:34:30.929
faith are, if that's the core of what you believe

00:34:30.929 --> 00:34:34.130
and what you do, then you, you know, you have

00:34:34.130 --> 00:34:38.150
an incredible faith. Thank you. So I got one

00:34:38.150 --> 00:34:39.949
more question for you. And then, you know, I'm

00:34:39.949 --> 00:34:42.269
going to grab my son and then we'll let you go.

00:34:43.570 --> 00:34:48.809
The entire film, there is so much that you're

00:34:48.809 --> 00:34:51.389
doing. that scare a lot of people watching, whether

00:34:51.389 --> 00:34:54.150
it's the little girl jumping off the pier or

00:34:54.150 --> 00:34:56.210
obviously the attack or, you know, the incredible

00:34:56.210 --> 00:34:58.289
waves that you, that you were surfing, despite,

00:34:58.369 --> 00:35:01.510
you know, getting smashed into the rocks. What

00:35:01.510 --> 00:35:05.750
do you do to overcome fear when you are, you

00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:08.170
know, in an environment that actually you find

00:35:08.170 --> 00:35:13.510
yourself actually scared at that moment? Oh gosh,

00:35:13.650 --> 00:35:19.960
maybe, I don't know. I would say like, Dealing

00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.320
with fear kind of comes really natural to me.

00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.260
I don't overthink it, but maybe I kind of face

00:35:25.260 --> 00:35:29.380
it and just acknowledge that I feel fearful.

00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:35.300
And then from there, I either just head on, go

00:35:35.300 --> 00:35:39.440
for it, or I don't know, take some breathe. I

00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.159
mean, when it's in the ocean, I breathe and just

00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:46.739
kind of talk to myself like, you got this. you've

00:35:46.739 --> 00:35:50.840
trained a lifetime for moments like this so because

00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.940
it kind of I realized that it takes a lot of

00:35:53.940 --> 00:35:57.420
like kind of ocean power to get me feeling really

00:35:57.420 --> 00:36:04.260
afraid um but I don't know I pray pray about

00:36:04.260 --> 00:36:07.360
it and just ask God to help me or I'll talk to

00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.039
my husband about it um I think just talking about

00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:13.380
fear is helpful and like getting another kind

00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:17.050
of um someone you trust like to kind of dig into

00:36:17.050 --> 00:36:21.369
it um it's cool but yeah I don't know if that'll

00:36:21.369 --> 00:36:25.730
be helpful for anyone but um yeah just try not

00:36:25.730 --> 00:36:28.829
to let the fear stop me from going for it and

00:36:28.829 --> 00:36:32.929
thankfully like I'm surfing today at a professional

00:36:32.929 --> 00:36:36.730
level and I could have very much have let like

00:36:36.730 --> 00:36:40.309
fear stopped me so I'm thankful I didn't let

00:36:40.309 --> 00:36:42.829
it stop me from surfing and doing the thing I

00:36:42.829 --> 00:36:46.380
love to do the most Absolutely. So just to kind

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:49.320
of look at the subtext, the fear is diminished

00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.179
because you have so much faith in your ability

00:36:51.179 --> 00:36:54.739
and the training that you've put in. Yeah. And

00:36:54.739 --> 00:36:57.599
I think too, just being able to kind of recognize

00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.820
it and know that it's there, but like kind of

00:37:00.820 --> 00:37:04.630
almost like let it. drive me gotcha brilliant

00:37:04.630 --> 00:37:07.889
all right well um i'll do i'll ask you this question

00:37:07.889 --> 00:37:09.449
and i'll go grab my son after we're done what

00:37:09.449 --> 00:37:10.929
i'll make sure that everyone listening those

00:37:10.929 --> 00:37:13.230
were to find you know that all the stuff online

00:37:13.230 --> 00:37:16.650
so um so you've got the the film has come out

00:37:16.650 --> 00:37:18.730
it's been out in america since june i think it

00:37:18.730 --> 00:37:21.429
was an incredible film i tell everyone listening

00:37:21.429 --> 00:37:23.869
you need to watch this this film um then you

00:37:23.869 --> 00:37:25.949
have the unstoppable year where can people find

00:37:25.949 --> 00:37:29.730
you and all this content online Awesome, thank

00:37:29.730 --> 00:37:33.610
you. Yeah, Unstoppable is out. Unstoppable, my

00:37:33.610 --> 00:37:36.329
documentary, is now out. It's going to be online

00:37:36.329 --> 00:37:40.010
on Netflix and all the online spaces, so you

00:37:40.010 --> 00:37:41.969
can watch it from your couch, because I personally

00:37:41.969 --> 00:37:44.510
am too lazy to go to the theater. And I was in

00:37:44.510 --> 00:37:46.469
the theater for a short time, so that was cool.

00:37:47.210 --> 00:37:49.590
And then it's actually going to be releasing

00:37:49.590 --> 00:37:52.969
internationally this year, so I'm excited about

00:37:52.969 --> 00:37:58.070
that. Otherwise, you can find me at BethanyHamilton

00:37:58.070 --> 00:38:02.570
.com or at Bethany on social. So, yeah, thanks

00:38:02.570 --> 00:38:04.690
to everyone for hearing me out.
