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to episode 558 with co -founder Sean Lake. Welcome

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to the Behind the Shield podcast. As always,

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my name is James Geering. And this week, it is

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my absolute honor to welcome on the show, rapper

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turned comedian, A Hood. Now, in this conversation,

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we discuss a host of topics from his childhood

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in Shreveport, Louisiana. the importance of mentorship

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and parenting, the factors contributing to our

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young people leaning into gang culture, his discovery

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of social media, his mission to use kindness

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and compassion and comedy to bring people back

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together again, and so much more. Now, before

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to hear them. So that being said, I introduce

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to you A. Hood. Enjoy. Well, Ehud, I want to

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start by saying thank you so much for taking

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the time and coming on the Behind the Shield

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podcast today. Yes, sir. It's a pleasure being

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here. So where on planet Earth are we finding

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you this afternoon? I'm sorry. Could you repeat

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that? Yeah. So where are you right now? Where

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in the States? Yeah, I'm in Texas. Beautiful.

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Well, I'd love to start at the very beginning

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of your timeline of your life. So tell me where

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you were born and tell me a little bit about

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your family dynamic, what your parents did, how

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many siblings. Well, I was born and raised in

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Louisiana. Shreveport to be exact. I'm a family.

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My mama had nine kids. So I come from a big family.

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I know, you know, that's why I get along with

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kids because. you know i got a sister that's

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eight you know what i'm saying and i'm gonna

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be 35 so i come from a big family so i know how

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to socialize with people that's one of the pluses

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of coming from a big family you get what i'm

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saying um i actually i got two kids i got a daughter

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17 love of the death she was the one who introduced

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me to the internet well and i have a seven -year

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-old son like i said I'm an All -American. If

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you ask me anything, I'm an open book. Well,

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you're one of nine. I'm one of five kids. So

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I'm this large -ish family myself. So where do

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you sit? Are you the oldest brother or are you

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a little bit lower down? I'm next to the oldest.

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I'm next to the oldest. It's seven after me.

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Okay. That's the same as me. I'm the second oldest

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brother, but second oldest kid. So we're in the

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same pecking order. Okay. Talk to me about Shreveport

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back then. What was the environment like? What

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were you growing up as far as the positive and

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the negative role models around you? Shreveport,

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man, it's rough all the way around. Growing up

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in Shreveport was rough. I always had an ambition.

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I can tell you that. I always had an ambition

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as a little boy. you know, a pupil. I had dreams

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of wanting to be famous, you know. Even when

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I couldn't be famous, I'd go around the little

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neighborhood, because we stayed in apartments

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too. So I cut grass in the local neighborhood.

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When we stayed in apartment complexes, I... I

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had a nice little clientele. I'd walk over there

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and ask them. I'd be like, man, every week, can

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I take your trash out? You know what I'm saying?

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And they pay me. A lot of people don't want to

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walk through that dumpster. You know, I always

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had a hustler's ambition. Growing up in Shreveport,

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it's a lot of gun violence. You know, and they

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don't care who it is. You know, you make a name

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for yourself, you a target. You got more than

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the next person, you a target. You just want

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to be left alone. You're a target. So I left

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because at some point I was becoming a target.

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You see what I'm saying? I just ain't want to

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be another statistic. When you look back now,

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what were the reasons, what were the background

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reasons that that neighborhood was so dangerous?

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Gangs. Like... We got a different set of gangs.

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The way Shreveport work, our gangs go by neighborhoods.

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You know, we got gangs that a lot of people never

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even heard of. You know, faux babies. You got

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chasers. And they all break down into different

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neighborhoods. You see what I'm saying? One thing

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I can say is... Right now, in today's time, it's

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trying to do a turnaround. But it's so bad right

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now that Trump is going to send the U .S. Army

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down to help literally Shreveport. You know,

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it ain't got just that bad. Yeah. See, as a firefighter

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paramedic, you know, I got to see a lot of neighbors,

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some in California, some in Florida, where I

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worked on both sides. And you see. how that's

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a vicious circle, that cycle of gang membership

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and addiction and poverty that just keeps turning

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and turning and turning. And if you go far enough

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back in the history, the prohibition of drugs,

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making addiction illegal, created a business

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for slinging dope in the underworld, as it were.

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And now it's interesting. I mean, as you smoke

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and I sit here talking, my community is starting

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to realize that psilocybin you know mushrooms

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um mdma ecstasy are healing us for ptsd so the

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very laws that you know reefer madness and a

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lot of those which are actually founded on racism

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that have created the violence that you experience

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as a young boy and i saw in uniform now we're

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starting to see that turning around and cannabis

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being legalized and mdma and you know psilocybin

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some of these other ones so I'm hoping that when

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that starts to really shift, that that will help

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start to take power away from gangs, pulling,

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you know, young boys and girls into it. And then

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they go towards a more positive direction. So

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with me, a little backstory about my mom and

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where my message come from, I was very rebellious.

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You know, my mom would tell me, don't do something,

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I do it. My mama told me, my mama is one of the

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most racist mothers you can run across. You know,

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and she always had this slogan, if she can't

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use a comb, don't bring her home. And I did the

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complete opposite. You know, and they don't understand.

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A lot of my viewers, they don't really understand.

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That you don't have to, what you grew up in is

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not what you have to go by when you grow up.

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Absolutely. When you venture out in that world,

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your choices are yours. Yeah, 100%. And this

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is even from the trauma side. I've been talking

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about this a lot recently. Whatever you were

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raised in. So it could be anything from being

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exposed to drugs, gangs, domestic violence, whatever

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the things are, regardless of where you live.

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You could be on the poverty line or living in

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a mansion. It's the same kind of thing. But there's

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generational trauma. And the moment exactly what

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you're talking about, the moment you, you and

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I, as we sit here now, can look and say, okay,

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these were the things that happened to me when

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I was a kid. And these are the things that happened

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to my mom or my dad when they were kids. And

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you start seeing those dominoes. Then you can

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stop it. Then you can stop your 17 -year -old

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and your 7 -year -old having the same kind of

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things forced on them. Right. So what about your

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dad? You mentioned, obviously, your mother so

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far. Was your dad in the picture? Yeah. I grew

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up with both parents. Oh, my dad, that's my best

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fucking friend. Tell me about him. That's my

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best fucking friend. Like, he just called me

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to introduce me to his girlfriend. They've been

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dating three months, and I told him. You know,

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because I told him, I'll let you meet the girl

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I've been dating in three months. You know, because

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that ain't the type of relationship we got. Man,

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let me see. You know, like, we got that type

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of relationship. Like, my pops, that's my world.

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You know, like, and a lot of people probably

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wouldn't understand that, or a lot of people

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would, but my dad has been there. You know, and

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I'm sorry for the people that didn't have this.

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but yeah and what was he doing as a profession

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as a career well he worked for the city of shreveport

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he'd been working for the city of shreveport

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for over 30 years doing what um working on the

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streets and drainage okay beautiful so what what

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was about him you know talk to me about the the

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values that he imparted because like you said

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And I've heard this on so many people that be

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on the show so far. You know, I had a dad that

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was present, like physically present, but emotionally

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not so, you know, so it was a kind of a strange

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dichotomy. He was there, but he wasn't there.

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A lot of people on the show that went into the

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military and the first responders and other areas.

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A lot of them didn't have parents. They were

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absent in one way, shape, or form. And therefore,

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they were looking out into the community for

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a mentor. And some of them, it might be a bad

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mentor first. It might be someone in the gangs.

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And then eventually, it might be a teacher, army

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recruiter, whoever it was. But there's a lot

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to be said about the mother, the fathers that

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are there, because that is the answer, is us

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trying to reform these homes and raise our children

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to feel loved and feel secure. So what was it

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about your father with nine children? How was

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he able to kind of steer you in this positive

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direction? Well, you know, you got good apples

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and you got bad apples. So before I answer that

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question, I want to tell you, the brother that's

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above me and the brother that's right under me

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are both in jail for the same murder charge.

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They became a statistic. You see what I'm saying?

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I just, my other two brothers took to my mom

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and I just took to my dad. My dad, he'd been

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working for as long as I can remember. You know,

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I got my first job at Raising Cane's three days

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after my 16th birthday. So, and I've been working.

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ever since you see what i'm saying um he funny

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people love him um and i can call him and i can

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joke about it you know and we can play you know

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my dad my dad if i call him right now he gonna

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say you already know club five dudes hoover that's

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a game i say pop You're 50 fucking 5. Listen,

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how? You've had a job for 30 plus years. How

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are you a gangbanger, bro? I ain't never known

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a gangbanger hold a job for 30 plus years. They

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can't even live 30 plus years. You got a family.

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That don't sound like a gangbanger. Gangbangers

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build family in the streets. it's a different

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but i can joke about him with those things you

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know what i'm saying and we laugh and he just

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he's just a good person to be around well what

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about when you were in the school ages what were

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you playing as far as sports or exercise honestly

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i ran track uh and i was in gymnastics i can

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really turn flips like backhand frames and um

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but other than that i was a troubled child at

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school i found track to get me out of that but

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then i just got so many bad memories of my mom

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because she stopped me from doing that because

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she didn't want to go to the other school and

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get my brothers and sisters while she was at

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home. So I didn't too much have a social life.

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I did a lot of running away. Yeah, I mean, that

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must have been hard with nine kids trying to

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give them positive outlets, you know, sports,

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whatever it was. But, I mean, with nine of them,

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especially the way I know American sports are

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here, you know, with the costs and, as you said,

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all the different events and locations, I mean,

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that must have been a nightmare with nine of

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you. Right. But we also lived a good life, though.

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you know like i said my daddy's been working

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for as long as i can remember uh we grew up in

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a medium not no high living not poverty but you

00:16:30.710 --> 00:16:33.669
know i had every new game system that came out

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um but yeah they divorced now though but So what

00:16:42.750 --> 00:16:45.250
about career aspirations? What were you dreaming

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of becoming when you were in high school? On

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somebody's television. You know, I always want

00:16:55.029 --> 00:16:56.809
to be on somebody's television. I'm going to

00:16:56.809 --> 00:16:59.629
be on somebody's television one day. One day.

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And who were your heroes at that point? Who were

00:17:02.929 --> 00:17:04.730
you wanting to emulate? Who was on television?

00:17:06.470 --> 00:17:10.869
Lil Wayne. You know, my first, I wanted to be

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a rapper. You know, that was my first thing,

00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:21.980
a rapper. That didn't make it far. I learned

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real hard. If you are truly good at something,

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you don't have to work hard to be good at it.

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You know, a lot of people be rapping for 30 years,

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ain't went nowhere. But there's somebody that

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come along in six months and can surpass you.

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So. I decided to choose a different route around

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2019. And then that's when I fell into the comedy.

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So talk to me about that. Which route did you

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take? And then how did that lead you to comedy?

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I took the rapping route. I lived in Atlanta.

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I even, me and this rapper, I don't know if you

00:18:04.329 --> 00:18:07.589
ever heard of him, Boosie, La Boosie and La Webby.

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They from Louisiana, but they, they be too. I

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got locked in with them in Atlanta. They shot

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my video. You know, it did numbers. But then

00:18:20.730 --> 00:18:28.130
me and my son's mama, she left me for somebody

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else. Cold turkey. Like it was out of the blue.

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I came home from work and she was gone. And so

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I took my son. and we moved back to Louisiana.

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I left the music alone. My mama let me stay,

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but she also make it uncomfortable, impossible

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to live there. You get what I'm saying? So I

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moved to Missouri. My daughter called. And she

00:19:05.029 --> 00:19:07.609
was like, Dad, this new app out, this new app

00:19:07.609 --> 00:19:10.250
out, TikTok. I want to be TikTok famous. Can

00:19:10.250 --> 00:19:13.670
you help me? I'm like, I'm living with somebody.

00:19:14.410 --> 00:19:18.690
I'm working at Sony. And I'm a full -time dad,

00:19:18.809 --> 00:19:24.130
single. And I was like, no. I got real life to

00:19:24.130 --> 00:19:27.130
deal with. She got mad. Didn't want to call me.

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Didn't want to talk to me for two months. And

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then she called back. And she was like. dad you

00:19:35.539 --> 00:19:38.220
got my brother staying with you right i said

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yeah you know this she was like and the only

00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.279
thing i'm asking you to do is download this app

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to burn with me and you can't do that but you

00:19:48.740 --> 00:19:54.039
got my brother 24 7. i downloaded the app hands

00:19:54.039 --> 00:20:00.339
down question you know so she teaching me You

00:20:00.339 --> 00:20:03.079
know, we're doing these TikTok dances. You know,

00:20:03.099 --> 00:20:04.740
that's why I learned this little move right here.

00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:08.240
Ooh, ooh. She taught me that. You know what I'm

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saying? So she got grounded. I got addicted to

00:20:16.259 --> 00:20:18.519
the app, you know, but she got grounded. I'm

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up there. This time, I'm calling her. I'm like,

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what's the new dance we finna do? You know, and

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I ain't had it. Because she got grounded for

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like three months. Her phone was suspended from

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social media. So I felt like, dang, I got to

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find something else to do. I'm like, do I want

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to do the music? Do I want to go back to the

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music? I feel like I got to work too hard for

00:20:45.890 --> 00:20:49.269
that. And then I was like, my family always told

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me I was extra funny. And I said, I'm just going

00:20:54.930 --> 00:20:59.400
to try. So I started doing lip syncs. of funny

00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:05.920
comedians lavelle crawford uh kevin hart and

00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:11.339
i said this ain't gonna give me no well i want

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to be more creative so i started doing these

00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:21.359
skits by myself um then i moved to ohio springfield

00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:26.279
ohio during the wintertime and um i remember

00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:31.269
walking on the porch And I was like, I'm waiting

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on, it's snowing. It's like three inches. And

00:21:34.589 --> 00:21:37.589
it's, and I'm like, oh man, I need somebody to

00:21:37.589 --> 00:21:40.250
come down the street so I can ask them this question

00:21:40.250 --> 00:21:44.470
about this lady that I saw. Her name was Roe

00:21:44.470 --> 00:21:48.950
Vickie. And because she got out of the store,

00:21:49.009 --> 00:21:51.309
she was like, the Shell Moon, anybody want something

00:21:51.309 --> 00:21:54.410
from the Shell Moon? And I was like, I don't

00:21:54.410 --> 00:21:57.130
see nobody. So, fuck, I was just like, okay.

00:21:57.690 --> 00:22:00.029
so i walked to the porch and i was like hey who

00:22:00.029 --> 00:22:06.549
it y 'all ever heard of a song alone and it just

00:22:06.549 --> 00:22:09.930
took off from them you know during those times

00:22:09.930 --> 00:22:13.250
they didn't have community guidelines so it wasn't

00:22:13.250 --> 00:22:16.009
nothing consider harassment and bullying but

00:22:16.009 --> 00:22:21.190
when i created the guidelines then my page all

00:22:21.190 --> 00:22:23.490
the videos started coming down for harassment

00:22:23.490 --> 00:22:29.190
and bullying so um my page got banned at 1 .5

00:22:29.190 --> 00:22:33.930
million followers um a lot of money was in that

00:22:33.930 --> 00:22:38.849
account and uh i fell off the app for like two

00:22:38.849 --> 00:22:42.410
or three years i got into some legal trouble

00:22:42.410 --> 00:22:51.890
and i'm back um i was incarcerated probably about

00:22:51.890 --> 00:22:56.509
a year and a half and I came back then, took

00:22:56.509 --> 00:22:58.410
a little longer break. And then I just been back

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maybe about a year, year and a half. And then

00:23:02.009 --> 00:23:08.150
here I am. Well, going back to first getting

00:23:08.150 --> 00:23:10.849
TikTok, up to that point, had you used social

00:23:10.849 --> 00:23:14.170
media like Instagram, Facebook, any of the less

00:23:14.170 --> 00:23:20.890
TikTok -y apps? Didn't care too much for Facebook

00:23:20.890 --> 00:23:24.390
until recently. Didn't care too much for Instagram.

00:23:25.069 --> 00:23:28.609
until recently um because i feel like they both

00:23:28.609 --> 00:23:38.009
hard to grow on and i blinked twice and the following

00:23:38.009 --> 00:23:44.130
just was like voila so i gotta entertain them

00:23:44.130 --> 00:23:50.269
too you know well talk to me about your livelihood

00:23:50.269 --> 00:23:53.549
being kind of interwoven into social media because

00:23:53.549 --> 00:23:56.930
you and I spoke the other day and I lost my account.

00:23:57.089 --> 00:23:59.210
And I think in all honesty, even though they

00:23:59.210 --> 00:24:02.049
said it was a copyright thing, it was kind of

00:24:02.049 --> 00:24:05.430
earlier with the whole Gaza issue. And I had

00:24:05.430 --> 00:24:07.150
guests on and, you know, I was talking about

00:24:07.150 --> 00:24:09.509
that because I think that, you know, when tens

00:24:09.509 --> 00:24:11.329
of thousands of children are killed, it's a bad

00:24:11.329 --> 00:24:14.839
thing. And obviously that wasn't a popular opinion

00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.359
back then for some reason. And yeah, I had, I

00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:20.380
think, 220 ,000 people on Instagram and then

00:24:20.380 --> 00:24:22.940
boom, it was gone. No appeal, nothing, just gone.

00:24:23.180 --> 00:24:26.099
Now I didn't monetize that, but it was still,

00:24:26.259 --> 00:24:28.200
it was right when I released my book last year,

00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.740
right when it happened. So all the potential

00:24:30.740 --> 00:24:34.759
exposure for a book that's helped a lot of people

00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:38.119
was just taken away from me. So talk to me about

00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:42.700
how you built up the financial side some of this

00:24:42.700 --> 00:24:46.559
um you know the the overextension of rules and

00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:48.640
that closing down how that affected you financially

00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:50.859
because this is an important you know if people

00:24:50.859 --> 00:24:53.420
are putting out truly hateful stuff of course

00:24:53.420 --> 00:24:55.759
that their account needs to get taken down so

00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.460
many people's accounts were removed you know

00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:00.700
early in covid because they said that masks don't

00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:02.880
work or whatever masks don't work you know what

00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.299
i mean they were telling the truth right when

00:25:06.299 --> 00:25:09.549
i lost the account I can't say that it impacted

00:25:09.549 --> 00:25:11.910
me financially because I lost it while I was

00:25:11.910 --> 00:25:15.150
in incarceration. You get what I'm saying? So,

00:25:15.289 --> 00:25:20.589
you know, it ain't like, of course, I came home

00:25:20.589 --> 00:25:22.589
and had to start over and build the brand again.

00:25:23.849 --> 00:25:29.769
And I can say, yeah, it changed my lifestyle

00:25:29.769 --> 00:25:35.630
when I came home. But I've always had something

00:25:35.630 --> 00:25:38.240
to fall back on. I have a culinary arts trade.

00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:40.740
You know, I've cooked for Trey Songz because

00:25:40.740 --> 00:25:43.539
I've cooked, I've worked for places like Copeland's

00:25:43.539 --> 00:25:51.220
Cheesecake Factory, Texas Roadhouse, Arnie's.

00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.380
These are, you know, I didn't, I had my fair

00:25:55.380 --> 00:25:58.880
share, you know, of being around, you know, but

00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.680
other than that, like I said, I've always had

00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:06.670
something to fall back on. Well, before you were

00:26:06.670 --> 00:26:08.690
talking about doing the lip sync and that kind

00:26:08.690 --> 00:26:10.529
of thing, it seems, correct me if I'm wrong,

00:26:10.609 --> 00:26:14.390
that this kind of, you know, 2 .0 A -hood, there's

00:26:14.390 --> 00:26:17.730
a message of kindness and community and pulling

00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:20.509
people together. So where did that come from?

00:26:21.390 --> 00:26:28.170
Okay. I told myself that I was nervous at first

00:26:28.170 --> 00:26:31.910
because I was like, okay, what if they get up

00:26:31.910 --> 00:26:36.420
here and... You know, crucify me for this. You

00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:39.819
know what I'm saying? But then I was like, it's

00:26:39.819 --> 00:26:42.940
always somebody out there somewhere that feel

00:26:42.940 --> 00:26:47.740
like you do. You know what I'm saying? So my

00:26:47.740 --> 00:26:53.799
objective is to take the power from the words.

00:26:54.440 --> 00:27:01.240
You know, if the African -American black community.

00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:08.339
hear you say what I say, they'll have a different

00:27:08.339 --> 00:27:14.740
story for you. But if it's coming from me, they

00:27:14.740 --> 00:27:20.660
left confused. You see what I'm saying? I do.

00:27:20.819 --> 00:27:25.759
Now, one day I'm gonna wake up and it's gonna

00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:32.039
be people like you and me uplifting each other.

00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:45.000
You see what I'm saying? So, man, I woke up one

00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:50.000
day and I thought to myself and I was like, we

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:55.180
need our own word. The first video that I made,

00:27:55.299 --> 00:28:00.420
I said, I'm gonna only say this one and one time

00:28:00.420 --> 00:28:07.960
only. If it ain't what? It ain't right. And that

00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:14.180
took off. Okay. Have you ever heard of Clayton

00:28:14.180 --> 00:28:19.759
Bigsby? I have, yes. So I started doing a couple

00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.420
of Clayton Bigsby skits. That's Dave Chappelle,

00:28:22.579 --> 00:28:25.059
isn't it? The clan member, the blind clan member.

00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:33.819
So my objective was to draw as many people. that

00:28:33.819 --> 00:28:37.579
i can that thinks it's funny whatever whatever

00:28:37.579 --> 00:28:43.640
i don't care the color and then flip it then

00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:48.000
that's when knacker nation came about you see

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:54.779
what i'm saying so i i made a video saying if

00:28:54.779 --> 00:29:01.019
i'm your milk and you my crowd then why together

00:29:01.019 --> 00:29:08.089
we can't be some knackers it's only right 100

00:29:08.089 --> 00:29:14.609
and then you start seeing more people joining

00:29:14.609 --> 00:29:16.630
more people joining now it's becoming a movement

00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:20.470
it's not it's a it's a family it's not a trend

00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:24.809
it's a way of life what's really sad as we sit

00:29:24.809 --> 00:29:27.410
here recording now i think it was about three

00:29:27.410 --> 00:29:30.809
or four days ago that poor ukrainian woman was

00:29:30.809 --> 00:29:33.710
stabbed in charlotte north carolina by a black

00:29:33.980 --> 00:29:37.039
passenger that sat right behind her. And it has

00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.160
become, again, depending on what you allow yourself

00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.579
to see and which news outlet you consider is

00:29:44.579 --> 00:29:49.799
your Bible, a kind of race conversation. And

00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:51.900
clearly it's a mental health conversation. If

00:29:51.900 --> 00:29:54.220
a human being sitting behind someone else on

00:29:54.220 --> 00:29:56.980
a train decides to stab them in the neck, that's

00:29:56.980 --> 00:29:59.400
not about color, creed, sexual orientation. It's

00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:04.809
about mental health. And so I see this, I almost

00:30:04.809 --> 00:30:08.089
feel like it's a desperate attempt because I

00:30:08.089 --> 00:30:10.410
think this division is starting to fail. I think

00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:12.990
people exactly like you're saying are realizing

00:30:12.990 --> 00:30:14.930
that in their schools, in their communities,

00:30:15.009 --> 00:30:17.849
in their workplaces, they work with people of

00:30:17.849 --> 00:30:20.170
all colors, creeds, backgrounds, and, you know,

00:30:20.170 --> 00:30:23.289
they get on really well. So I feel like that,

00:30:23.390 --> 00:30:26.690
for example, is one of these things thrust into

00:30:26.690 --> 00:30:28.589
us again, like, oh, don't forget that, you know.

00:30:28.990 --> 00:30:30.950
The black people do this and the white people

00:30:30.950 --> 00:30:32.950
do that. And I think it's bullshit. I really

00:30:32.950 --> 00:30:35.529
do. And so I don't know what your perspective

00:30:35.529 --> 00:30:40.089
is, but I think there's a huge awakening now

00:30:40.089 --> 00:30:42.170
for what I always say is like the 80 percent

00:30:42.170 --> 00:30:44.609
in the middle that aren't racist on one side

00:30:44.609 --> 00:30:47.190
or racist on the other or, you know, whatever

00:30:47.190 --> 00:30:50.509
extremists, the 80 percent, the majority that

00:30:50.509 --> 00:30:53.309
are just sick and tired of this divisive rhetoric

00:30:53.309 --> 00:30:56.410
and and, you know, want to have that conversation

00:30:56.410 --> 00:30:59.559
like, hey, we do all. this is the united states

00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.099
of america we do all get along right and that's

00:31:03.099 --> 00:31:06.359
and i think that's the reason why they trying

00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.799
to remove tick tock because a lot of people is

00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.660
learning different ways of life you see what

00:31:11.660 --> 00:31:14.420
i'm saying through their mobile device you see

00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:18.240
what i'm saying like to us it's a they saying

00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.759
it's a security risk you see what i'm saying

00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:28.609
yeah you know i don't i can be honest like Everybody

00:31:28.609 --> 00:31:32.970
here, we only reporting what we see. I mean,

00:31:32.990 --> 00:31:34.609
if you want to flip it around, if you want to

00:31:34.609 --> 00:31:37.609
get down to the bottom of it, it's a security

00:31:37.609 --> 00:31:40.589
risk if you have a government of either side

00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:42.990
that's allowed the country to get fatter and

00:31:42.990 --> 00:31:45.049
sicker, that's allowed our schools to become

00:31:45.049 --> 00:31:48.410
a place where shootings are a common occurrence,

00:31:48.490 --> 00:31:50.910
that have allowed gangs to thrive because of

00:31:50.910 --> 00:31:53.900
drug prohibition. The greatest threat to national

00:31:53.900 --> 00:31:56.559
security is our government at the moment, not

00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.799
someone from overseas. Right, right. They're

00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:03.319
doing it right under our nose. You know, so,

00:32:03.460 --> 00:32:12.019
but honestly, me personally, I feel like if I

00:32:12.019 --> 00:32:15.059
sit back, you asked me, you didn't know my thoughts

00:32:15.059 --> 00:32:19.400
on the, you know, the black and the whites and,

00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:24.319
you know, the makeskins. My thing is, I have

00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:34.000
seen the slavery movies, okay? I've seen what

00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:44.940
happened. My thing is, I'm not finna prosecute

00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:49.640
a person. For something they never had to endure

00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.359
and they was born in the same time we born it

00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.240
had nothing to do with these things if I Treat

00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.880
a person accordingly to how they treat me. You

00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.420
see what I'm saying? Um, I can go in Some of

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:08.619
my best friends are white You know, I'm saying.

00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.900
Mm -hmm. Um, I got some best friends with black

00:33:12.900 --> 00:33:17.640
Like I got some best friends Mexican Maybe one

00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:24.380
of them, but, you know. But I treat a person

00:33:24.380 --> 00:33:30.779
accordingly to how they treat me. Like, the very

00:33:30.779 --> 00:33:36.039
thing that we preach about and we talk about

00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:42.480
is what we do every day. It's racism in every

00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:48.759
race. Racism in every race. No matter what it

00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:52.119
is, you got bad judges, you got good judges.

00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.480
You got bad lawyers, you got good lawyers. You

00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.660
got bad doctors, you got good doctors. The world

00:33:58.660 --> 00:34:06.500
revolves around good and bad. My analogy, if

00:34:06.500 --> 00:34:08.639
you go to the grocery store, and this is for

00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.059
the police officers, that's why I say I bag the

00:34:12.059 --> 00:34:15.750
blue. Only the good, not the bad. You see what

00:34:15.750 --> 00:34:17.630
I'm saying? Because if I go to the grocery store

00:34:17.630 --> 00:34:21.250
and I buy a dozen eggs and three of them eggs

00:34:21.250 --> 00:34:24.210
is bad and the rest of them things good, all

00:34:24.210 --> 00:34:27.650
other nine good, what you going to do? You going

00:34:27.650 --> 00:34:31.469
to throw the whole thing away? No, you going

00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:32.909
to throw them three eggs out. You going to cook

00:34:32.909 --> 00:34:38.030
them other nine. So work with what you got. We'll

00:34:38.030 --> 00:34:41.900
cross that bridge when somebody treats me. according

00:34:41.900 --> 00:34:46.460
to my color and not my personality yeah yeah

00:34:46.460 --> 00:34:50.659
well i think this is the thing as well with with

00:34:50.659 --> 00:34:55.119
history and again i'm british so my nation or

00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:57.860
people leaders of my nation have done horrible

00:34:57.860 --> 00:35:00.500
things around the world they colonized two -thirds

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:03.119
of the world at one point um and even though

00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:04.760
there are some beautiful side effects if you

00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.019
go to london these days you know you'll see the

00:35:08.019 --> 00:35:10.019
whole world represented you know if you go to

00:35:10.019 --> 00:35:12.849
heathrow airport it's you know african dress

00:35:12.849 --> 00:35:14.929
and indian and you know all over the world and

00:35:14.929 --> 00:35:17.510
these are all british people coming home so you

00:35:17.510 --> 00:35:19.230
know that there's there's an upside to some of

00:35:19.230 --> 00:35:22.309
this because we can't go back and change it but

00:35:22.309 --> 00:35:24.409
acknowledging history is extremely important

00:35:24.409 --> 00:35:27.409
remembering history you know we have to remember

00:35:27.409 --> 00:35:29.409
history otherwise we make the same mistake over

00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:32.849
and over again but that's different than continuing

00:35:32.849 --> 00:35:37.210
a victimhood as you said generations later i

00:35:37.210 --> 00:35:40.070
learned um you know recently that at the height

00:35:40.070 --> 00:35:42.070
of slavery when the british were the ones who

00:35:42.070 --> 00:35:44.409
were buying the slaves from the african tribes

00:35:44.409 --> 00:35:47.889
and then basically trading them with the americans

00:35:47.889 --> 00:35:50.050
so they came home with tobacco and clean hands

00:35:50.050 --> 00:35:53.789
um that was when britain's were british people

00:35:53.789 --> 00:35:56.710
were some of the poorest ever so some people

00:35:56.710 --> 00:35:58.710
were making a shitload of money but the country

00:35:58.710 --> 00:36:00.650
wasn't you know what i mean so the moment you

00:36:00.650 --> 00:36:04.070
kind of broad brush everyone this is where we

00:36:04.070 --> 00:36:07.809
get into trouble and if you Take a step back

00:36:07.809 --> 00:36:09.269
and you look at the horrible things that have

00:36:09.269 --> 00:36:12.489
happened in history. Usually it's a few people

00:36:12.489 --> 00:36:16.210
in the government, in businesses, whatever it

00:36:16.210 --> 00:36:19.269
is, and everyone else has to pay the price. So

00:36:19.269 --> 00:36:21.889
the way we really turn things around is, as you

00:36:21.889 --> 00:36:25.449
said, we all stand side by side. Someone made

00:36:25.449 --> 00:36:28.289
a comment on an interview a few months ago and

00:36:28.289 --> 00:36:30.230
said, if you think about a medieval castle, like

00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:35.699
the old British Robin Hood type time. And you've

00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:37.840
got the peasants in the village arguing with

00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.460
each other. You told them that, oh, they're the

00:36:39.460 --> 00:36:41.699
bad guys and they're the bad guys. He said, well,

00:36:41.739 --> 00:36:44.239
then where are you not looking? At the castle.

00:36:45.099 --> 00:36:47.199
And this is the point. Don't get me wrong. There

00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.219
are some great countries with great leaders around

00:36:49.219 --> 00:36:51.760
the world, but the bad ones will keep dividing,

00:36:51.820 --> 00:36:54.219
keep reminding, oh, you know, you're black, I'm

00:36:54.219 --> 00:36:55.980
white, you're gay, I'm straight, whatever the

00:36:55.980 --> 00:36:59.260
thing is. And then you're creating that tension

00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:02.739
to take the eyes off where we should be looking.

00:37:03.389 --> 00:37:05.670
The safety of our schools, the quality of our

00:37:05.670 --> 00:37:09.230
food, the purity of our water, all these things

00:37:09.230 --> 00:37:11.409
that affect every single person, whether you're,

00:37:11.409 --> 00:37:13.929
again, any color, creed, sexual orientation.

00:37:14.789 --> 00:37:22.070
Right. I agree. I concur. At the end of the day,

00:37:22.190 --> 00:37:30.849
what we stand for is family, unity. Color don't

00:37:30.849 --> 00:37:39.889
matter. And a lot of people wouldn't understand

00:37:39.889 --> 00:37:48.789
when I say, if it wasn't for Jazzy, Beauty, Peaches,

00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:59.869
Tony, Virgo, these are people that actually got

00:37:59.869 --> 00:38:05.389
behind the content, the brand, and helped push

00:38:05.389 --> 00:38:10.050
it to become what it is. You see what I'm saying?

00:38:10.389 --> 00:38:17.050
I do. So when you got a solid team behind you,

00:38:17.130 --> 00:38:21.010
like I said, I'll be the face of the movement,

00:38:21.070 --> 00:38:22.929
even though I feel like somebody should have

00:38:22.929 --> 00:38:26.389
said this a long time ago. I can relate to that

00:38:26.389 --> 00:38:29.340
completely. I've always said, how come a guy

00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:32.719
with very limited intelligence that came from,

00:38:32.739 --> 00:38:35.539
you know, across the ocean from the UK can figure

00:38:35.539 --> 00:38:37.760
out some of this stuff, but the people that we

00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.900
pay a lot of money don't, you know, I mean, if

00:38:39.900 --> 00:38:41.760
you think about the amount of money that's out

00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.760
there. we should be living harmoniously. The

00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.619
rest of the world should be dreaming of coming

00:38:46.619 --> 00:38:49.320
to America because everyone's healthy and the

00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.960
schools are safe and the environment is protected.

00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.800
But it's not. So if you look at a movement, more

00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.440
often than not, it's people that were sick and

00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.500
tired of watching pain, suffering, whatever it

00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:04.940
was, and they said enough is enough. And whether

00:39:04.940 --> 00:39:08.510
it's someone... creating a training company for,

00:39:08.530 --> 00:39:10.869
you know, women to help them with domestic abuse

00:39:10.869 --> 00:39:12.730
or whether it's, you know, starting a TikTok,

00:39:13.070 --> 00:39:15.030
trying to bring people of different, you know,

00:39:15.050 --> 00:39:17.090
ethnicities back together again. It's the same

00:39:17.090 --> 00:39:21.590
thing. Right. And I mix it with some comedy too,

00:39:21.730 --> 00:39:28.889
you know. So I get some inboxes. People be like,

00:39:29.030 --> 00:39:31.949
are you making fun of us or are you serious?

00:39:32.449 --> 00:39:37.710
I'm dead ass serious. I love. everybody i don't

00:39:37.710 --> 00:39:41.510
care who you are if you like what i do then we

00:39:41.510 --> 00:39:45.190
got something in common you get what i'm saying

00:39:45.190 --> 00:39:49.670
i have a dark sense of humor i'm sorry i laugh

00:39:49.670 --> 00:39:55.530
about some you know what i'm saying i i i'll

00:39:55.530 --> 00:39:58.230
be playing with my homeboys because i was crawling

00:39:58.230 --> 00:40:03.550
back like kente but that's i play like that my

00:40:03.550 --> 00:40:07.119
that's how me and my people play You know, like,

00:40:07.260 --> 00:40:11.260
I got a dark sense of humor. I like to laugh

00:40:11.260 --> 00:40:15.079
at the shit a lot of people wouldn't laugh about.

00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.599
And now that I've seen more than just me, I got

00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.260
a dark sense of humor. But I had to learn it.

00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:27.719
You ever watch South Park? Yeah, I love that

00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.320
show. That's the perfect example of using dark

00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.360
humor to put a point across. And I think what

00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.300
they do so well is they don't just make fun of

00:40:37.300 --> 00:40:39.860
people that they they choose to make fun. They

00:40:39.860 --> 00:40:42.500
make fun of everyone, all of us. So no, no one.

00:40:42.500 --> 00:40:45.460
So that way is fair. No one escapes the mirror

00:40:45.460 --> 00:40:56.639
that's held to our face. Right. So. At the end

00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:01.059
of the day. I don't know where it's going to

00:41:01.059 --> 00:41:07.300
go. But I feel like it's going to be somewhere.

00:41:08.820 --> 00:41:19.260
You know, I enjoyed you. And can you let the

00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:23.079
people know where can they stream this at? Yeah,

00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:26.300
you can say that. Yep. Let us know. How can we

00:41:26.300 --> 00:41:31.460
stream? oh this on the podcast yeah for people

00:41:31.460 --> 00:41:34.119
listening yeah if you just basically put in behind

00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.400
the shield podcast in google this will pop up

00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.420
straight away and if you put a hood as well then

00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:42.260
but it will be on everything itunes spotify i

00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:45.000
mean any anywhere it's not i don't do the video

00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.280
i just do the audio so they'll be able to hear

00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:51.980
it anywhere they get podcasts right okay so but

00:41:51.980 --> 00:41:58.280
like i say at the end of the day i'm gonna try

00:41:59.309 --> 00:42:03.429
That's all I can do is try. If you were king

00:42:03.429 --> 00:42:07.409
for a day and you could change some things that

00:42:07.409 --> 00:42:10.349
are going on at the moment, what would you change

00:42:10.349 --> 00:42:15.969
to make this mission come together for you? Man,

00:42:16.170 --> 00:42:17.829
listen, a lot of people are going to hate me

00:42:17.829 --> 00:42:26.190
when I say this. I remove all leadership, man.

00:42:26.230 --> 00:42:27.710
I feel like we wasn't put here for leadership.

00:42:28.809 --> 00:42:35.389
I don't feel like leadership was a part of God's

00:42:35.389 --> 00:42:41.929
plan. You know, that was man -made. You know,

00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:45.670
like, we shouldn't be paying for grapes, man.

00:42:45.750 --> 00:42:50.170
Them free. He gave us to them free. You know.

00:42:52.349 --> 00:43:00.179
I just, I'll remove all this. Man, listen. I

00:43:00.179 --> 00:43:06.840
said it. I don't. Nope. I never voted. Nope.

00:43:07.460 --> 00:43:13.159
Never will. Nope. That'll be my main thing. If

00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.300
I was king for a day, that means when I'm not

00:43:15.300 --> 00:43:20.900
king, this is a free world. Mm -hmm. Well, it's

00:43:20.900 --> 00:43:24.500
interesting. I understand we have some cuckoos

00:43:24.500 --> 00:43:28.480
out there. And a lot of people may feel like

00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:39.199
we need that. But if it's nothing, you can deal

00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:45.440
with it. You see what I'm saying? I just, I feel

00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.400
like the wars and all it is, that's just a little

00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.340
much. I'm over here shaking in my boots behind

00:43:53.340 --> 00:44:01.369
some shit I ain't even did. Yeah, no, it's funny

00:44:01.369 --> 00:44:03.030
because, I mean, it kind of mirrors what I say,

00:44:03.090 --> 00:44:07.869
not no leadership, but the way that our system

00:44:07.869 --> 00:44:11.769
is designed to choose people, you have to be

00:44:11.769 --> 00:44:13.969
a millionaire or billionaire. You take money

00:44:13.969 --> 00:44:16.869
from companies that basically buy your way into

00:44:16.869 --> 00:44:20.099
being president. And you have to have no ethics

00:44:20.099 --> 00:44:22.420
because those companies, a lot of times their

00:44:22.420 --> 00:44:24.719
products kill a lot of people. Tobacco, drug

00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:28.079
companies, fast food, et cetera, et cetera. Military,

00:44:28.179 --> 00:44:31.880
you know, weapons manufacturers, those kind of

00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.500
things. So, yeah, I agree. I think if you look

00:44:34.500 --> 00:44:37.519
at, you know, healthy societies, usually a leader

00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.659
is chosen because people want that person to

00:44:39.659 --> 00:44:41.840
be in that position. Not because they bought

00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:43.980
their way in. Not because they lied their way

00:44:43.980 --> 00:44:45.940
in. And until we have something that represents

00:44:45.940 --> 00:44:48.630
that. I think people would rather just have no

00:44:48.630 --> 00:44:51.230
leader than deal with this because we've had

00:44:51.230 --> 00:44:53.789
the left, we've had the right. And again, over

00:44:53.789 --> 00:44:56.050
the tens and tens of years, we've got fatter

00:44:56.050 --> 00:44:58.630
and sicker. You know, we've got this, just when

00:44:58.630 --> 00:45:00.550
we were starting to heal and come together as

00:45:00.550 --> 00:45:02.489
a nation, I think, you know, in a couple of days,

00:45:02.510 --> 00:45:05.829
it's 9 -12, day after 9 -11. That's what you

00:45:05.829 --> 00:45:08.969
saw. America really was America and doesn't matter

00:45:08.969 --> 00:45:11.429
what you were as far as, you know, how you look

00:45:11.429 --> 00:45:14.769
to who you pray to. We all came together. So,

00:45:14.809 --> 00:45:18.639
you know, I think that, yeah, we. Leadership

00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:22.360
would be good only if it was the kind of people

00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.340
that most of us truly looked up to. You know

00:45:25.340 --> 00:45:26.820
what I mean? And what should happen in an election

00:45:26.820 --> 00:45:29.019
is you'd have two people running or three people

00:45:29.019 --> 00:45:33.179
running. If one of them won, you'd be like, okay,

00:45:33.219 --> 00:45:34.880
well, that wasn't my favorite, but they're still

00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.059
really good. But that's not what happens. You

00:45:37.059 --> 00:45:45.559
know what I mean? So, yeah. So, me personally,

00:45:47.050 --> 00:45:56.489
Maybe not no leadership, but something, something.

00:45:56.849 --> 00:45:58.949
That's all you want is just good leadership.

00:45:59.349 --> 00:46:02.530
You know, something different, something different

00:46:02.530 --> 00:46:07.969
because I don't, I'm not understanding it right

00:46:07.969 --> 00:46:11.449
now. Well, I think there's a, there's a basic

00:46:11.449 --> 00:46:14.800
kind of principle in my opinion. Leaders bring

00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.500
people together. Tyrants force people apart.

00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.980
That's it. So if we had a good leader and we

00:46:20.980 --> 00:46:23.239
were slowly being brought together and the leader

00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.420
themselves was, you know, stayed in shape and

00:46:26.420 --> 00:46:28.920
ate well and talked about mental health openly

00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.300
and, you know, was looking for proactive reasons

00:46:31.300 --> 00:46:33.119
to help people that are struggling and invested

00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:35.780
in communities that were, you know, maybe not

00:46:35.780 --> 00:46:38.340
as able as other areas, you know, and you're

00:46:38.340 --> 00:46:41.119
seeing this nation heal. I think a lot of people

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.280
would be happy with that person being in place.

00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.460
But it's the basic principle. If you're not bringing

00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:48.760
the country together, if you're dividing it,

00:46:48.860 --> 00:46:52.159
then you're not a leader. You're a tyrant. Like,

00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:58.760
I ain't never seen so many people. Like, it's

00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:04.539
real life. Some people be like, if I make a political

00:47:04.539 --> 00:47:07.760
post that's on the joking side, you got some

00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:12.400
people that will say, yeah, that's them Democrats

00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.809
for you. That's some Republican shit right there.

00:47:16.090 --> 00:47:20.710
You know, I've never seen it like... Do they

00:47:20.710 --> 00:47:22.489
know that that's gangbanging too? That's red

00:47:22.489 --> 00:47:26.369
and blue. Mm -hmm. Exactly. And even the legal

00:47:26.369 --> 00:47:28.469
drug companies, the same as drug companies. Everybody

00:47:28.469 --> 00:47:31.329
that's watching this shit, you're gangbanging

00:47:31.329 --> 00:47:36.010
for the government. Mm -hmm. Yeah, you look at

00:47:36.010 --> 00:47:38.590
the model of fast food, you look at the model

00:47:38.590 --> 00:47:41.329
for prescription drugs, it's no different than

00:47:41.329 --> 00:47:43.690
what you'd see on the streets. It really isn't.

00:47:43.690 --> 00:47:47.409
You know, create an addict for life. Right. So

00:47:47.409 --> 00:47:51.750
just keep that in mind. Y 'all be over here talking

00:47:51.750 --> 00:47:54.809
about, I'm team red. Y 'all talking about y 'all

00:47:54.809 --> 00:47:58.150
team blue. But when you hear somebody say it

00:47:58.150 --> 00:48:00.750
in the street, your head gonna run like hell.

00:48:03.409 --> 00:48:07.530
Absolutely. And then what do you see with those

00:48:07.530 --> 00:48:09.750
old heads and the Crips and the Bloods when they

00:48:09.750 --> 00:48:12.800
start getting into their 40s? they realize that

00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.119
it was crazy. And they start standing side by

00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:16.719
side, trying to stop kids from going into the

00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:18.619
gangs in the first place. But it's too late.

00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:21.960
Because if you should have stopped it, they should

00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:23.639
have stopped with you when you're younger age

00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.719
before they, you know, your partners, you should

00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.380
have stopped your partners. And your partners

00:48:29.380 --> 00:48:32.619
should have stopped their partners. You know?

00:48:34.179 --> 00:48:36.920
So I ain't no youngsters trying to hear what

00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.940
no OGs trying to say when you got NBA Youngboy

00:48:39.940 --> 00:48:44.860
and they don't. So how do we change that? I mean,

00:48:44.860 --> 00:48:47.940
I think the drug prohibition element would be

00:48:47.940 --> 00:48:50.739
huge because if you simply couldn't make money

00:48:50.739 --> 00:48:53.300
slinging dope anymore because they were fixing

00:48:53.300 --> 00:48:55.940
people that were addicts and you could have access

00:48:55.940 --> 00:48:59.440
to pharmaceutical grade opiates or whatever it

00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.840
is, if you were weaning yourself off, then you'd

00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:03.440
cut the head off the snake, I think, with the

00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:07.559
drug side at least. So aside from that, how do

00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:10.719
we stop this circle of violence when it comes

00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:17.289
to gang membership? You, honestly, I feel like

00:49:17.289 --> 00:49:23.349
if it's always something, they stop this, it's

00:49:23.349 --> 00:49:26.090
going to start a different something. You see

00:49:26.090 --> 00:49:29.690
what I'm saying? This 2025, I done seen some

00:49:29.690 --> 00:49:31.710
shit and heard some shit I ain't never even heard

00:49:31.710 --> 00:49:36.989
of before. You see what I'm saying? They can

00:49:36.989 --> 00:49:39.869
stop this and start it another way, but that

00:49:39.869 --> 00:49:43.980
only going to make them go another way. you see

00:49:43.980 --> 00:49:48.280
what i'm saying so if let me give you an example

00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:53.239
they made weed legal everywhere you know to where

00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:56.920
like you said they're not going to go in there

00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:01.579
and sell them off with cocaine so if they can't

00:50:01.579 --> 00:50:04.780
if the government can't do that then that pushes

00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:08.179
everybody that goes from that route to another

00:50:08.179 --> 00:50:12.099
avenue it's always something You see what I'm

00:50:12.099 --> 00:50:21.760
saying? I feel like making it legal would be

00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:27.360
doing more harm than helping because I don't

00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.239
feel like marijuana tearing down the community.

00:50:30.820 --> 00:50:35.920
So I wouldn't want to mess with the people that's

00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:40.239
dealing that. You get what I'm saying? Because

00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:43.960
then you will push them to do something else

00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:45.800
because they got to provide for a lifestyle that

00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:49.440
they have already accumulated. You see what I'm

00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:51.159
saying? Then whatever they promote they sell

00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.599
to, then we'll be tearing down the community.

00:50:56.199 --> 00:51:01.530
You get what I'm saying? See, you have legalization

00:51:01.530 --> 00:51:04.150
where you can go and buy it, and then you have

00:51:04.150 --> 00:51:07.150
decriminalization. And that's the model that

00:51:07.150 --> 00:51:08.889
I think is really good. They did it in Portugal.

00:51:09.969 --> 00:51:11.969
And again, like you said, marijuana, obviously,

00:51:12.030 --> 00:51:14.210
we're seeing it legalized now. Because I think

00:51:14.210 --> 00:51:17.369
that when you take a step back, yes, you can

00:51:17.369 --> 00:51:20.449
make a living selling marijuana, but how many

00:51:20.449 --> 00:51:24.769
kids that ended up in the gangs and selling whatever

00:51:24.769 --> 00:51:28.440
on the corner were we robbing? from a career

00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.480
to do something you know architect construction

00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.320
doctor whatever like we stopped their potential

00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:35.400
because of the environment they were surrounded

00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.980
with but what the portugal model really is is

00:51:38.980 --> 00:51:40.860
the understanding as you said when you start

00:51:40.860 --> 00:51:44.000
getting harder now cocaine you know opiates crystal

00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:48.139
meth all these other illicit drugs those are

00:51:48.139 --> 00:51:50.980
being used by people who are hurting and so if

00:51:50.980 --> 00:51:54.420
you can pour resources into mental health addiction

00:51:54.420 --> 00:51:57.780
counseling job creation housing And you stop

00:51:57.780 --> 00:51:59.880
a lot of people from needing to fill that void

00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:02.400
with a drug specifically. And I think, again,

00:52:02.659 --> 00:52:05.360
some of the therapeutic ones we talked about,

00:52:05.420 --> 00:52:07.739
that's a different conversation. Marijuana, MDMA,

00:52:07.940 --> 00:52:11.099
psilocybin, these have healing properties. But

00:52:11.099 --> 00:52:13.380
with the other ones that are just destroying

00:52:13.380 --> 00:52:15.300
people, and then obviously we have opiates with

00:52:15.300 --> 00:52:17.219
fentanyl at the moment that are just snuffing

00:52:17.219 --> 00:52:20.239
people out of all colors, creeds, and ages. If

00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.719
you can take away some of that pain from the

00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.519
community, then those people stand on their own

00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:27.659
feet and they're... back in the community so

00:52:27.659 --> 00:52:30.800
your customers diminish in the illicit drug trade

00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:33.820
you know immensely and that's that's what happened

00:52:33.820 --> 00:52:37.400
in portugal they still chased the smugglers they

00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.880
chased the dealers but you know the users themselves

00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:44.719
they put in to they gave them support to get

00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:46.440
them well again because you know addiction is

00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:48.599
basically a sickness and again i'm not talking

00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:50.780
about you know marijuana and some of these therapeutic

00:52:50.780 --> 00:52:53.539
ones so i think that's what's interesting about

00:52:53.539 --> 00:52:56.599
that model because if you're option isn't to

00:52:56.599 --> 00:53:00.199
sell drugs anymore, and you create an infrastructure,

00:53:00.579 --> 00:53:02.480
then a lot of those young people will then go

00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:04.440
and do careers that are a lot more rewarding

00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.739
and don't result in dying in some god -awful

00:53:07.739 --> 00:53:14.780
drug war. Right. But what about the ones that

00:53:14.780 --> 00:53:19.059
then gave up all of that without and chose it

00:53:19.059 --> 00:53:21.440
for the streets? Because a lot of these people

00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:24.440
out here want to be where they are. They don't

00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:29.780
want help. why do you think that is in louisiana

00:53:29.780 --> 00:53:35.239
we call it chasing a dragon something you saw

00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.340
the first time you got high that you want to

00:53:38.340 --> 00:53:44.239
see again that you'll never see again you know

00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:48.380
so you you do have those and you can pull in

00:53:48.380 --> 00:53:51.739
the resources all you want a lot of them just

00:53:51.739 --> 00:53:54.179
won't accept it because they don't want They

00:53:54.179 --> 00:53:58.019
want to be carefree. They want no worries. They

00:53:58.019 --> 00:54:01.860
like where they at. Like I'm from Louisiana.

00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:05.199
I'm from Shreveport. I see a lot of it. A lot

00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:09.340
of people like, I done seen a dude quit his job

00:54:09.340 --> 00:54:16.860
that worked with me to stand on the corner. And

00:54:16.860 --> 00:54:20.539
then when I, he was holding the sign. I didn't

00:54:20.539 --> 00:54:24.340
give him nothing because. You was my co -worker.

00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:33.059
Why did you quit? You see what I'm saying? I

00:54:33.059 --> 00:54:39.000
do. No, please. I'm a realist. I'm going to say

00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.480
what I feel. It was no reason. We got the same

00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:52.099
24 hours. The same seven days. I think that...

00:54:52.349 --> 00:54:54.409
Other danger, though, is that there'll always

00:54:54.409 --> 00:54:57.329
be that group. There'll always be that group

00:54:57.329 --> 00:55:00.030
that you can't help, no matter how much you try.

00:55:00.210 --> 00:55:02.610
Whether it's people trying to stop smoking, whether

00:55:02.610 --> 00:55:04.389
it's illicit drugs, whether it's homelessness,

00:55:04.610 --> 00:55:08.550
whatever it is. But we focus on the ones that

00:55:08.550 --> 00:55:10.389
didn't work for rather than the ones that it

00:55:10.389 --> 00:55:13.110
did. And I think this is what we miss in America.

00:55:13.269 --> 00:55:15.429
Food stamps, government housing, they always

00:55:15.429 --> 00:55:17.840
point out the people that abuse it. Yeah, that

00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.179
happens. I see it as a paramedic and a firefighter

00:55:20.179 --> 00:55:23.139
in America. I saw it my whole career. But we're

00:55:23.139 --> 00:55:25.380
not looking about all of those families that

00:55:25.380 --> 00:55:27.599
it helped, that got back on their feet. You know

00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:29.860
what I mean? So I think that's the other part

00:55:29.860 --> 00:55:31.940
is not thinking that we're going to fix everything.

00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:35.159
But we have to change the way we do it because

00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.099
the way we're doing it now isn't working. I mean,

00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:44.519
it's just not. Right. I agree. So that's why.

00:55:48.650 --> 00:55:53.210
That's why what we do is what we do. I believe

00:55:53.210 --> 00:55:59.309
a lot of people feel like they have some sort

00:55:59.309 --> 00:56:04.150
of freedom in what we do. You see what I'm saying?

00:56:04.710 --> 00:56:11.210
Yeah. Honestly. I done seen people, I done seen,

00:56:11.429 --> 00:56:15.929
I love my Caucasian people, man. I done seen

00:56:15.929 --> 00:56:22.260
them make a video saying, black power and it

00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:32.739
just tickled me you know how can anybody hate

00:56:32.739 --> 00:56:35.300
it now i'm getting special requests talking about

00:56:35.300 --> 00:56:37.880
man what about the mix because in the end you

00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.800
know so we gotta we gotta make sure that everybody

00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:47.329
feel welcome absolutely Well, you've obviously

00:56:47.329 --> 00:56:49.150
mentioned about, you know, the TikTok channel

00:56:49.150 --> 00:56:52.590
specifically. Where do you hope this all leads

00:56:52.590 --> 00:56:55.849
to? Is there going to be, you know, outside of

00:56:55.849 --> 00:56:58.769
social media, live comedy, you know, TV shows?

00:56:59.489 --> 00:57:03.690
Yeah, I'm in the process of starting stand up.

00:57:06.409 --> 00:57:13.750
Ultimately, I'm going to my first major step

00:57:13.750 --> 00:57:17.480
and go. I say would be Wildin' Out. I want to

00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:22.300
be on MTV Wildin' Out. That's my major first

00:57:22.300 --> 00:57:27.320
step and go. Because if I can get the audience

00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:32.159
to see me just one time, oh, I'm going to shine

00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:39.300
bright like I die, man. All right. Well, I want

00:57:39.300 --> 00:57:41.280
to go to some closing questions and then we'll

00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:43.039
make sure, again, everyone knows where to find

00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:46.420
you on social media. The first question, is there

00:57:46.420 --> 00:57:49.820
a book or are there books that you love to recommend?

00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.380
It can be related to our discussion today or

00:57:52.380 --> 00:57:58.500
completely unrelated. I like to read fantasy.

00:57:59.179 --> 00:58:05.619
So I love reading Twilight sagas. I love Harry

00:58:05.619 --> 00:58:10.219
Potter books. Those are my two favorite series.

00:58:16.260 --> 00:58:21.300
And these books they call hood rat novels. Yeah.

00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:27.539
Yeah. Don't buy that book. Don't buy that book.

00:58:27.900 --> 00:58:35.059
A whole lot of hood stuff. What about TV, films,

00:58:35.059 --> 00:58:46.809
or documentaries? TV. True Blood. orange is the

00:58:46.809 --> 00:58:56.769
new black um let me see movies oh i'm a i'm an

00:58:56.769 --> 00:59:02.789
october baby so anything anything horror you

00:59:02.789 --> 00:59:09.489
know um i just watched the new uh conjuring yeah

00:59:09.489 --> 00:59:14.710
yeah yes yes i just watched weapons have you

00:59:14.710 --> 00:59:19.860
seen that yet It's not like horror, like slasher

00:59:19.860 --> 00:59:22.260
or anything, but it's creepy as hell. It's Josh

00:59:22.260 --> 00:59:24.920
Brolin and some other people. But yeah, that's

00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:26.599
another good one. If you're into horror, watch

00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:32.920
that one too. Okay. Brilliant. What about documentaries?

00:59:33.019 --> 00:59:35.179
Any of those? Are you a documentary watcher?

00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:44.409
Yeah. BMF. BMF? BMF. BMF, okay. you know the

00:59:44.409 --> 00:59:50.130
black mafia family you know um yeah i love country

00:59:50.130 --> 00:59:54.409
music though let's get that clip but i love our

00:59:54.409 --> 00:59:59.389
music but i got a special special place in my

00:59:59.389 --> 01:00:02.590
heart for some country that's what we're seeing

01:00:02.590 --> 01:00:05.269
again back to our conversation earlier if you

01:00:05.269 --> 01:00:08.719
look at I mean, obviously sports teams, I mean,

01:00:08.739 --> 01:00:10.900
they're pretty diverse and we seem to ignore

01:00:10.900 --> 01:00:13.340
that, that these, you know, men or women or whatever

01:00:13.340 --> 01:00:16.159
team it is, you know, play side by side and,

01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.719
you know, rejoice and hug each other or console

01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.179
each other if they've won or lost. But even in

01:00:21.179 --> 01:00:23.039
music, look at the fusions that have happened

01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:25.820
for a long time now, you know, these collaborations

01:00:25.820 --> 01:00:28.579
between these different, you know, music genres

01:00:28.579 --> 01:00:31.639
that supposedly are all black or all white, whatever.

01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:35.000
And it's bullshit. They're all playing together.

01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.320
Right. And there's so much unity in the world

01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:41.119
today, man. That's why I think they're trying

01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:45.239
to remove TikTok. Absolutely. All right. Well,

01:00:45.260 --> 01:00:47.119
the next question, is there a person that you

01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:49.559
recommend to come on this podcast as a guest

01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.619
to speak to the first responders, military, and

01:00:52.619 --> 01:01:02.699
associated professions of the world? Hmm. Yeah.

01:01:09.889 --> 01:01:19.409
Texas cop. 2 .0. He's actually a police officer.

01:01:21.809 --> 01:01:25.449
That's his social media handle? Texas cop 2 .0?

01:01:25.489 --> 01:01:30.030
Okay. All right. I'll look him up. Another one

01:01:30.030 --> 01:01:32.250
as well I'd love to get on is Lil Wayne. Because

01:01:32.250 --> 01:01:34.730
if you hear him talking about the kindness of

01:01:34.730 --> 01:01:37.739
a cop when he was little. when you know when

01:01:37.739 --> 01:01:39.960
when his house was raided and i think he was

01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:41.780
shot as well at that point he was only a little

01:01:41.780 --> 01:01:45.019
boy um you know again he's he's been a another

01:01:45.019 --> 01:01:47.159
voice of exactly what we're talking about you

01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:49.940
know good good people bad people not about you

01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:52.920
know skin color or uniform in that case but just

01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.179
who showed him kindness when everyone else was

01:01:55.179 --> 01:01:58.139
stepping over him and he he that was a good story

01:01:58.139 --> 01:02:01.239
too i did hear that story yeah that story was

01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:05.449
told on i think the bt awards one year Yeah,

01:02:05.449 --> 01:02:07.650
Uncle something. I forget what his name was now,

01:02:07.710 --> 01:02:11.210
but he referred to him as Uncle. Yeah. All right.

01:02:11.230 --> 01:02:13.090
Well, then the last question before we make sure

01:02:13.090 --> 01:02:15.070
everyone knows where to find you and your work.

01:02:15.190 --> 01:02:26.349
What do you do to decompress? I listen to music.

01:02:27.969 --> 01:02:37.400
I play Fortnite a lot. That's why I mellow it.

01:02:38.260 --> 01:02:42.440
And again, I didn't think about that. How many

01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.360
people of all colors and creeds play those games

01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:47.699
side by side talking to each other. You know

01:02:47.699 --> 01:02:50.300
what I mean? Right. They may look like a dragon

01:02:50.300 --> 01:02:52.460
or whatever it is in the game, but they're not.

01:02:53.500 --> 01:02:58.079
Like I didn't, I didn't met some great people

01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:02.239
just from by playing the game. Yeah. And you

01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:04.360
can't see him. So you're not judging on how they

01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:06.519
look or what color they are or if they're wearing

01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:09.960
a turban or a burqa. They're just whatever character

01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.500
in the game and you're talking to them. Right.

01:03:14.539 --> 01:03:16.440
Absolutely. All right. Well, then for people

01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:19.440
listening, the social media platforms, where

01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:21.679
are the best places to find you on all things?

01:03:23.059 --> 01:03:29.519
Instagram and TikTok is both A -Y -E -H -O -O

01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:33.739
-D official. One word. That's where you can find

01:03:33.739 --> 01:03:37.480
me on all platforms. And I would like to, if

01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.940
I missed a couple people, big ups, Tony, I love

01:03:40.940 --> 01:03:44.440
you, brother. Peaches, I love you. Jazzy, I love

01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:46.820
y 'all. Thank y 'all for being a part of what

01:03:46.820 --> 01:03:57.119
we do. G, Ginger, Cal, Michelle, Lulu Lemon.

01:03:57.849 --> 01:04:01.210
I love y 'all, man. Y 'all stay up. Stay blessed.

01:04:01.510 --> 01:04:05.510
We're going to get there. Beautiful. And if you

01:04:05.510 --> 01:04:07.429
missed anyone, I'm sure they're going to be really

01:04:07.429 --> 01:04:10.730
pissed off. Yeah. And everybody else that I miss,

01:04:10.849 --> 01:04:14.250
please. All right. Well, I want to thank you

01:04:14.250 --> 01:04:16.130
so much. It's been such an interesting conversation.

01:04:16.409 --> 01:04:19.130
This was super organic. My wife showed me your

01:04:19.130 --> 01:04:21.860
account and I was like, this is phenomenal. You

01:04:21.860 --> 01:04:24.139
just, you know, the message is positive. And

01:04:24.139 --> 01:04:25.820
I'm sure if you see mine, it's the same kind

01:04:25.820 --> 01:04:28.400
of thing, just trying to storytell the goodness

01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.820
in the world. So I want to thank you so much

01:04:30.820 --> 01:04:32.860
for being so generous with your time and coming

01:04:32.860 --> 01:04:35.260
on the Behind the Shield podcast today. Yes,

01:04:35.260 --> 01:04:38.900
sir. Thank you for having me. And I will share

01:04:38.900 --> 01:04:40.800
it out and I will get my people to stream it.

01:04:41.139 --> 01:04:42.119
We'll be on it.
