WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.799 Welcome to episode 44 of Behind the Shield podcast. 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:05.540 My name is James Gearing, and I am recording 00:00:05.540 --> 00:00:07.400 this a little bit early because we have a very 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.359 angry young lady bearing down towards Florida 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:13.000 named Irma, and I'm gonna have to go to the station 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:15.539 in a moment and be the crew that rides it out. 00:00:16.140 --> 00:00:19.620 So this week, I really wanted to delve into the 00:00:19.620 --> 00:00:22.480 world of eye health and vision. This is an area 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:24.660 that we really don't discuss very much anywhere. 00:00:25.019 --> 00:00:27.780 In the fire service specifically, in the military, 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:31.160 we touch on hearing a lot because of the noise 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.159 of the sirens and the weapons and all those things. 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:37.719 But eye health, vision as an obstacle getting 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:41.579 into the career, how to change your vision, how 00:00:41.579 --> 00:00:44.320 to protect your eyes themselves. This is an area 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.659 that... Aside from you need to wear safety glasses, 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:50.640 we just don't touch on at all. So this week's 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:53.619 guest is Dr. Michael Lang. He's an optometrist 00:00:53.619 --> 00:00:56.219 here in Central Florida, very well respected 00:00:56.219 --> 00:00:59.880 nationally and internationally, also a nutritionist 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:03.020 and a psychology major. So a very interesting 00:01:03.020 --> 00:01:05.700 perspective on overall health rather than focusing 00:01:05.700 --> 00:01:08.730 just on the eyeballs themselves. So we delve 00:01:08.730 --> 00:01:12.430 into my story, which is basically I was told 00:01:12.430 --> 00:01:14.829 as a young man in England, you can never be a 00:01:14.829 --> 00:01:18.269 firefighter because you're colorblind. Absolute 00:01:18.269 --> 00:01:22.069 BS. So we'll talk about that story. And we're 00:01:22.069 --> 00:01:23.430 going to come up with some solutions for people 00:01:23.430 --> 00:01:26.150 that have things like that, the trip hazards 00:01:26.150 --> 00:01:29.000 as far as entering the profession. We're going 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:30.959 to talk about how to maintain your eye health, 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.480 not just with corrective lenses and those kind 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:36.060 of things, but also nutrition, hydration areas 00:01:36.060 --> 00:01:37.920 there. So that's going to tie into the overall 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.319 health. We're going to talk about how to protect 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.400 your eyes and what kind of products are out there, 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.340 what to look for if you're in certain fields. 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:48.400 And then we delve into a number of other things 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:52.079 from A2 milk to nutrition, obesity in the US. 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:54.780 So this was a great conversation I had face to 00:01:54.780 --> 00:01:58.060 face with Dr. Lang in his office. So I'm going 00:01:58.060 --> 00:01:59.719 to keep this intro short. I'm going to go pack 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.799 my bag and drive south when everyone's driving 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:06.519 north. And just before I leave, don't forget, 00:02:06.659 --> 00:02:10.039 rate us on iTunes, share an episode, be part 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.500 of the solution of spreading each and one of 00:02:12.500 --> 00:02:14.520 these incredible episodes around the planet. 00:02:15.020 --> 00:02:17.840 So without further ado, I introduce to you Dr. 00:02:18.020 --> 00:02:38.379 Michael Lang. Enjoy. Welcome to Behind the Shield. 00:02:38.460 --> 00:02:40.379 Dr. Lang, how are you doing? It's great to be 00:02:40.379 --> 00:02:42.080 here. Thanks for having me. Thank you very much. 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:45.039 We are sitting here about two or three days from 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:48.379 Hurricane Irma showing up, so I think the whole 00:02:48.379 --> 00:02:49.819 state of Florida is wondering what the hell is 00:02:49.819 --> 00:02:52.860 going to go on. All right, so I want to kind 00:02:52.860 --> 00:02:55.419 of paint the picture before we delve into eyes 00:02:55.419 --> 00:02:57.319 and nutrition and all the other things that we're 00:02:57.319 --> 00:03:00.639 going to talk about. Can you give me a background, 00:03:00.780 --> 00:03:02.599 where you were born, what your family unit was 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:05.680 like? right absolutely so i was born in new orleans 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:11.500 louisiana uh gee september 15th 1961 i'm 55 years 00:03:11.500 --> 00:03:14.819 old now uh my dad's a rheumatologist so i came 00:03:14.819 --> 00:03:19.759 from a medical background and um i actually I 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.379 was racing motocross at a competitive age, started 00:03:22.379 --> 00:03:25.159 out about 10 years of age. I rode the minibike 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:27.379 nationals and I went up and started riding 125 00:03:27.379 --> 00:03:32.039 expert and very competitive. I ended up in the 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.939 Grand National Championship, broke my leg in 00:03:34.939 --> 00:03:37.620 my back, broke my leg in five places, broke my 00:03:37.620 --> 00:03:40.479 back, ended my motocross career at 19 years of 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:42.939 age. And so then I started thinking, well, I 00:03:42.939 --> 00:03:46.580 got to go to college. And I actually. I was going 00:03:46.580 --> 00:03:48.979 to be an orthopedic surgeon. And my dad, being 00:03:48.979 --> 00:03:51.139 a rheumatologist, said, well, you know, that's 00:03:51.139 --> 00:03:54.199 a lot of school. And, I mean, we were going to 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:56.659 think about 15 years more of school, you know, 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.539 of college or even more fellowship training residency. 00:04:00.020 --> 00:04:01.800 I just don't know if I want to do that. So then 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.120 I started thinking about optometry. And my dad 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.139 said, that's a good profession. So I ended up 00:04:06.139 --> 00:04:08.979 going to optometry school. And that's how I ended 00:04:08.979 --> 00:04:10.539 up going to optometry. I wanted to do something 00:04:10.539 --> 00:04:12.360 to help people. I wanted to be in the health 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.199 profession, but I didn't want to go 16 years 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.750 of school. So, you know, I went four years of 00:04:16.750 --> 00:04:19.149 college, got a degree in psychology. Then I got 00:04:19.149 --> 00:04:21.889 another degree in physiological optics. Then 00:04:21.889 --> 00:04:24.209 I went away to optometry school for four years. 00:04:24.470 --> 00:04:26.829 And then I also became a certified nutritional 00:04:26.829 --> 00:04:29.829 specialist after the fact at the American College 00:04:29.829 --> 00:04:32.470 of Nutrition. And I did that because I was tired 00:04:32.470 --> 00:04:35.310 of seeing my patients really age right before 00:04:35.310 --> 00:04:38.420 my eye. age very rapidly, macular degeneration, 00:04:38.699 --> 00:04:42.100 cataracts, glaucoma. And so I started working 00:04:42.100 --> 00:04:44.379 with nutrition and started seeing how we adjusted 00:04:44.379 --> 00:04:46.779 their diet and adjusted the supplements they 00:04:46.779 --> 00:04:49.259 were taking that we could actually slow down 00:04:49.259 --> 00:04:52.180 the aging process in the eye and thus the entire 00:04:52.180 --> 00:04:55.339 body. And then I started my own vitamin company 00:04:55.339 --> 00:04:57.220 called Fortify Vitamins, and we'll talk about 00:04:57.220 --> 00:04:59.730 that in a little bit more. But that's how I kind 00:04:59.730 --> 00:05:02.589 of got interested in the field. The motocross 00:05:02.589 --> 00:05:05.449 accident triggered me to go to college because, 00:05:05.490 --> 00:05:06.850 heck, I wasn't going to go to college. I was 00:05:06.850 --> 00:05:09.149 going to be the next world champion, Bob Hurricane 00:05:09.149 --> 00:05:13.589 Hanna. And that went by the wayside. But now 00:05:13.589 --> 00:05:16.290 I'm racing cars. Brilliant. A little safer than 00:05:16.290 --> 00:05:18.209 a motorbike, though. Yep. Four wheels on the 00:05:18.209 --> 00:05:21.529 ground and a roll cage. So you said the first 00:05:21.529 --> 00:05:23.629 area you went into was psychology. Why did you 00:05:23.629 --> 00:05:26.360 choose that on the way to optometry school? Well, 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:29.680 that's a good question. You have to pick something 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.800 in the sciences. that are going to enable you 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:34.860 to get all your prerequisites. Your prerequisites 00:05:34.860 --> 00:05:37.079 are very hard. I mean, they're physics and chemistry, 00:05:37.259 --> 00:05:40.139 organic chemistry, calculus, trigonometry, all 00:05:40.139 --> 00:05:45.399 sorts of biologies, and psychology. And so I 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.079 didn't love biology. I didn't love chemistry, 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:50.800 but I really liked psychology. I really liked 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.839 understanding why people react the way they do, 00:05:54.899 --> 00:05:58.439 why people act the way they do. And so that's 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.420 why I got my degree in psychology. Now, for people 00:06:00.420 --> 00:06:02.860 that are listening out there, Don't go into psychology 00:06:02.860 --> 00:06:04.180 if you think you're going to make a lot of money 00:06:04.180 --> 00:06:07.060 because with a degree at a BS level in psychology, 00:06:07.220 --> 00:06:09.500 you cannot get a job and make anything. You have 00:06:09.500 --> 00:06:11.639 to go into the master's program or your PhD and 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:13.920 become a clinical psychologist. So that was just 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:17.240 a stepping ground to get my prerequisites done 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.300 and to get a degree so I could get into optometry 00:06:20.300 --> 00:06:23.519 school. Okay. Now, just to kind of educate the 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.199 listeners, I'm aware of how optometry schools 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.300 are in the U .S. because my wife is an optician 00:06:28.300 --> 00:06:30.579 and she's on her route. And she used to work 00:06:30.579 --> 00:06:31.980 with you and she's on her route to optometry 00:06:31.980 --> 00:06:35.860 school. A, the prereqs are insane. The high -level 00:06:35.860 --> 00:06:38.800 math that they need, the Rain Man stuff to go 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:41.000 in there. But secondly, it's kind of unique. 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:42.740 And if you could tell us a little bit more about 00:06:42.740 --> 00:06:45.040 it. There's only a certain number of schools 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.420 in the whole of the U .S., aren't there? Roughly 00:06:47.420 --> 00:06:49.620 how many are there? Optometry school is very 00:06:49.620 --> 00:06:51.529 competitive. I mean, it's tougher to get into 00:06:51.529 --> 00:06:53.350 optometry school, really, than medical school. 00:06:53.490 --> 00:06:55.170 Because you think about medical school, there's, 00:06:55.170 --> 00:06:57.250 you know, five or six, seven, or even more, depending 00:06:57.250 --> 00:07:00.870 on the state, medical schools per state. And 00:07:00.870 --> 00:07:02.850 optometry school, I mean, I think there's 17 00:07:02.850 --> 00:07:05.209 or 18 optometry schools in the entire country. 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:09.120 And so there's a lot of people that want to become 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.180 optometrists because it's a four -year program 00:07:11.180 --> 00:07:13.379 after college. You know, you can make a lot of 00:07:13.379 --> 00:07:15.740 money. It's good money. You're helping people. 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:18.939 And depending on the state, you can do eye surgery. 00:07:18.980 --> 00:07:21.959 You can prescribe any medication, orals or topicals 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.879 now. Optometry has really gone into that next 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.800 realm and expanded their scope. I really think 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.639 an optometric physician or an optometrist is 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.439 your gatekeeper, your primary eye care physician. 00:07:33.899 --> 00:07:36.410 And they'll see you for... everything from glaucoma 00:07:36.410 --> 00:07:39.350 treatment and pink eye and corneal lacerations 00:07:39.350 --> 00:07:43.089 to sty removal, even laser procedures. And then 00:07:43.089 --> 00:07:46.069 when you need, you know, major surgery, you would 00:07:46.069 --> 00:07:48.110 go to the ophthalmologist that is fellowship 00:07:48.110 --> 00:07:50.689 trained in that arena. So a retina specialist 00:07:50.689 --> 00:07:53.069 for retinal surgery, a corneal specialist for 00:07:53.069 --> 00:07:55.930 corneal surgery, oculoplastics for, you know, 00:07:55.930 --> 00:07:58.509 plastic procedures. So ophthalmology has become 00:07:58.509 --> 00:08:01.410 very specialized. It's very rare you see a general 00:08:01.410 --> 00:08:03.970 ophthalmologist anymore because the optometrist 00:08:03.970 --> 00:08:06.980 has really taken over that whole realm of eye 00:08:06.980 --> 00:08:09.920 care and are trained very well at doing it. Right. 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.579 Now, we only have one here in Florida, and that's 00:08:12.579 --> 00:08:15.540 Nova down in Fort Lauderdale. Right. Do you see, 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.019 and this is for Becky as well, do you see another 00:08:18.019 --> 00:08:19.699 one opening up in the state of Florida anytime 00:08:19.699 --> 00:08:22.529 soon? You know, I've had rumors. rumors about 00:08:22.529 --> 00:08:25.829 uh you know opening Tallahassee opening Gainesville 00:08:25.829 --> 00:08:30.569 uh Orlando Tampa uh but as far as I know they're 00:08:30.569 --> 00:08:32.649 rumors okay because it'll be a long drive when 00:08:32.649 --> 00:08:34.470 she gets into school but that's that's a whole 00:08:34.470 --> 00:08:37.570 separate thing all right so you weren't able 00:08:37.570 --> 00:08:40.490 to do motocross so while you were you know transitioning 00:08:40.490 --> 00:08:42.809 through school did you take up any other sports 00:08:42.809 --> 00:08:46.120 instead Yeah, I actually got into road biking 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:49.600 and mountain biking, triathlons. You know, I 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.139 competed in a lot of that. But, you know, mountain 00:08:52.139 --> 00:08:55.580 biking is really one of my passions and road 00:08:55.580 --> 00:08:58.039 biking. And now I'm doing recumbent biking as 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.860 well. Because now at 55, I'm starting to develop 00:09:00.860 --> 00:09:03.179 a little degenerative arthritis, especially in 00:09:03.179 --> 00:09:05.679 my back, my neck, and my knee. And, you know, 00:09:05.740 --> 00:09:08.240 the triathlon bikes, you're bent over, you know, 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.500 almost in a question mark position. And if you're 00:09:10.500 --> 00:09:12.620 going for a 50 -mile bike ride, I got some lower 00:09:12.620 --> 00:09:14.820 back pain. neck pain after being in that position 00:09:14.820 --> 00:09:17.379 that long period of time. So I went to a carbon 00:09:17.379 --> 00:09:21.360 fiber recumbent bicycle and, you know, you sit 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.080 back, it's almost like in Lazy Boy and you really, 00:09:24.100 --> 00:09:26.100 it hits different muscle groups and hits your 00:09:26.100 --> 00:09:28.519 glutes, your calves, your thighs. even better 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.539 than road biking does. It's pretty amazing. And 00:09:31.539 --> 00:09:34.220 now it's interesting when we think about this 00:09:34.220 --> 00:09:36.460 because, you know, being a male, we got to be 00:09:36.460 --> 00:09:39.720 concerned at 55 years of age about prostate issues. 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:42.779 Okay. And so when I'm right, I made some YouTube 00:09:42.779 --> 00:09:45.909 videos all about. you know, biking on a recumbent 00:09:45.909 --> 00:09:48.750 bike and I'm preserving my prostate is what I'm 00:09:48.750 --> 00:09:50.570 telling people. Because when you're on a road 00:09:50.570 --> 00:09:52.289 bike, even a mountain bike, but more on a road 00:09:52.289 --> 00:09:54.610 bike, you have that pointy little seat and it 00:09:54.610 --> 00:09:57.350 goes up there and it hits that nerve right near 00:09:57.350 --> 00:10:00.570 your prostate and it can cause prolonged inflammation 00:10:00.570 --> 00:10:05.460 of the prostate. There is some potential evidence, 00:10:05.620 --> 00:10:07.539 let's just put it that way, that people that 00:10:07.539 --> 00:10:09.960 bike long periods of time with those little race 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:12.600 seats can aggravate their prostate, maybe even 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:15.419 cause impotence. Nobody wants that. Heck, I have 00:10:15.419 --> 00:10:17.139 four kids, though, and I'm 55. I don't need any 00:10:17.139 --> 00:10:20.980 more kids. Sterility and impotence can occur 00:10:20.980 --> 00:10:24.659 from people doing road bike for long, long periods 00:10:24.659 --> 00:10:27.100 of time. So I think the recumbent bike, a lot 00:10:27.100 --> 00:10:29.700 more people are going to start riding these recumbent 00:10:29.700 --> 00:10:32.799 bikes. And even the trikes, the cat trikes, they're 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:34.840 carbon fiber now, so they're very light. Actually, 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:37.820 I go about one mile an hour faster than I did 00:10:37.820 --> 00:10:41.860 on my triathlon bike on the recumbent bike because 00:10:41.860 --> 00:10:45.539 it's so low and aerodynamic and sleek. Now, you 00:10:45.539 --> 00:10:48.940 just prompted me to bring up an episode I had, 00:10:49.059 --> 00:10:52.120 episode 11, which is Dr. Eric Goodman. He has 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:54.279 a thing called foundation training. And some 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:59.620 of his top clients are Lance Armstrong. the u 00:10:59.620 --> 00:11:02.480 .s or british cycling team and it's a lot of 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.299 the same problem they have they have back problems 00:11:04.299 --> 00:11:07.059 from being in that that hunch position and the 00:11:07.059 --> 00:11:09.940 whole posterior chain getting very weak so that's 00:11:09.940 --> 00:11:12.080 something me passing to you the foundation training 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.419 it was so good i healed my back with it i actually 00:11:14.419 --> 00:11:17.299 went out to california and got certified so amazing 00:11:17.299 --> 00:11:19.740 amazing thing especially for cyclists because 00:11:19.740 --> 00:11:22.120 they get the short hamstrings and and that that 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.919 uh almost fetal position that they're in for 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:27.389 so long And I think it's a good idea to mix it 00:11:27.389 --> 00:11:29.110 up a little bit, you know, and that's why I still 00:11:29.110 --> 00:11:31.429 ride my road bike. I do the mountain bike. I 00:11:31.429 --> 00:11:33.789 do the recumbent bike. I also have a trike. And 00:11:33.789 --> 00:11:35.870 so you can mix it up a little bit. And then I 00:11:35.870 --> 00:11:37.789 just got into a sport now since we live on the 00:11:37.789 --> 00:11:41.039 bay. I'm doing a lot of sculling. So it's a row 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.419 and you go out and skull and that amazing the 00:11:44.419 --> 00:11:47.200 amount of workout you get for your legs, cardio, 00:11:47.419 --> 00:11:50.519 upper body. I mean, I think for overall exercise, 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:54.200 rowing in a skull is probably one of the best 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:57.480 forms of exercise. But, you know. In order to 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:00.320 slow down the aging in our body and thus our 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.440 eyes, you have to be cardiovascularly fit. You 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:06.080 got to exercise. I always tell my patients, my 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:08.360 listeners on my talk show, I tell them, you know, 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:12.039 20 minutes minimum, five days a week of cardiovascular 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:15.399 exercise, preferably more, but 20 minutes minimum. 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:18.220 30 minutes in the gym pumping iron, preferably 00:12:18.220 --> 00:12:20.500 more than that as well. But that's an absolute 00:12:20.500 --> 00:12:22.899 minimum. 30 minutes of weight -bearing exercise, 00:12:23.259 --> 00:12:25.559 20 minutes of cardiovascular exercise. A lot 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:26.980 of my patients will come into the office and 00:12:26.980 --> 00:12:29.919 say, well, I walk five miles a day. That sounds 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:32.080 impressive, right? But then I tell them, get 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:33.759 up, show me how you walk. And they just a little 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.940 stroll. Their pulse isn't going over resting. 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:40.360 So it's not doing much for cardiovascular. So 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:42.919 I tell them to power walk. They don't have to 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:44.860 go five miles. They can power walk for a half 00:12:44.860 --> 00:12:48.220 a mile. But, you know, interval training is great, 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.519 but we got to do cardio. We got to do weight 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.600 -bearing exercise. That combined with the proper 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.580 sleep, the proper diet. The right amount of sunshine. 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.340 Sunshine is very important. We've been brainwashed 00:13:01.340 --> 00:13:03.100 to stay out of the sun because it causes skin 00:13:03.100 --> 00:13:05.080 cancer. There's actually studies that indicate 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.779 people that are out of the sun are more prone 00:13:07.779 --> 00:13:10.200 to get skin cancer, horrendous skin cancers, 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.279 than people that are in it a moderate amount. 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:14.360 So you don't want to get sunburned, but you want 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.320 to be out there in the sun. And the combination 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.320 of all that is anti -aging. Absolutely. Known 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.539 for just wearing shorts when I work out and, 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.059 you know, shoes hardly ever as well. But I noticed 00:13:26.059 --> 00:13:27.779 that myself. You know, I mean, I'm from England 00:13:27.779 --> 00:13:30.240 and I'm able to tolerate the sun here in Florida 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:32.360 fine as long as you're not out there for too 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.679 long. And the more I read, the more they seem 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:38.220 to be linking a lot of the cancers to the sun 00:13:38.220 --> 00:13:40.179 blocks and sunscreens than they are in the actual 00:13:40.179 --> 00:13:42.500 sun itself. I haven't used a sunscreen in probably 00:13:42.500 --> 00:13:45.269 20 years. You know, maybe more than that when 00:13:45.269 --> 00:13:48.409 my mom made me use a sunscreen. Because I think 00:13:48.409 --> 00:13:50.289 there's a lot of chemicals in those sunscreens. 00:13:50.529 --> 00:13:52.750 And who knows if those chemicals aren't some 00:13:52.750 --> 00:13:55.029 of the culprits for the basal cell and squamous 00:13:55.029 --> 00:13:57.090 cell carcinomas that we see. It's interesting. 00:13:57.190 --> 00:13:59.509 My dad has never used a sunscreen. Grew up as 00:13:59.509 --> 00:14:01.850 a farm boy in South Dakota. Never used sunscreen. 00:14:02.049 --> 00:14:04.250 Never had any skin cancer. My mom, on the other 00:14:04.250 --> 00:14:07.389 hand, has used sunscreen all of her life. Montgomery, 00:14:07.590 --> 00:14:09.509 Alabama. So there's a different genetic there. 00:14:09.649 --> 00:14:13.169 But she's had some horrendous skin cancers. So 00:14:13.169 --> 00:14:15.370 there could be a point there. Remember, everything 00:14:15.370 --> 00:14:16.730 in moderation. You don't want to be out there 00:14:16.730 --> 00:14:18.429 and get totally burned. You just want to get 00:14:18.429 --> 00:14:21.850 a little bit of sun. And most studies indicate 00:14:21.850 --> 00:14:25.470 20 to 30 minutes, depending on the size, your 00:14:25.470 --> 00:14:27.710 weight, and the color of your skin. So I'm blonde 00:14:27.710 --> 00:14:32.690 hair, green eyes, about 195 pounds. So 20 minutes 00:14:32.690 --> 00:14:35.509 to 30 minutes a day is plenty for me. And I've 00:14:35.509 --> 00:14:38.909 tested my 25 -hydroxy. That's a blood test. And 00:14:38.909 --> 00:14:41.429 my blood levels of vitamin D range between 80 00:14:41.429 --> 00:14:43.919 and 90. And that's where I tell people try to 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:46.360 get theirs between 80 and 90. But if you're darkly 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:49.220 pigmented and you're overweight, then you've 00:14:49.220 --> 00:14:50.580 got to be out in the sun longer than that, probably 00:14:50.580 --> 00:14:53.299 45 minutes to an hour, and you won't get burned. 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:57.059 But that vitamin D deficiency is linked with 00:14:57.059 --> 00:15:00.759 macular degeneration, linked with dry eye, linked 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:04.600 with diabetes, many forms of cancers, rheumatoid 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.529 arthritis. Remember... Vitamin D is a potent 00:15:07.529 --> 00:15:10.870 steroid hormone. So it's an anti, not only is 00:15:10.870 --> 00:15:13.269 an antioxidant, but it's anti -inflammatory. 00:15:13.350 --> 00:15:15.990 So we got to get our vitamin D. then people say, 00:15:16.110 --> 00:15:18.029 well, I take vitamin D. My doctor prescribed 00:15:18.029 --> 00:15:20.429 vitamin D. It's different. People don't have 00:15:20.429 --> 00:15:22.889 the digestive enzymes, the probiotics, the intrinsic 00:15:22.889 --> 00:15:26.230 factors in their stomach to actually absorb the 00:15:26.230 --> 00:15:29.029 vitamin D orally the way they do when they go 00:15:29.029 --> 00:15:31.110 out in the sun. And some people are taking way 00:15:31.110 --> 00:15:33.970 too much. If you take too much vitamin D3 orally, 00:15:34.009 --> 00:15:35.870 it can actually increase your risk of atrial 00:15:35.870 --> 00:15:38.110 fibrillation, a heart problem we don't want. 00:15:38.269 --> 00:15:40.830 But you won't get that from the sun itself. Now, 00:15:40.850 --> 00:15:42.570 another little tidbit of information that people 00:15:42.570 --> 00:15:44.669 don't realize, when you're out in the sun, sun, 00:15:44.710 --> 00:15:48.809 don't go get in the soapy shower right afterwards 00:15:48.809 --> 00:15:51.549 because the soaps are going to wash off the oils 00:15:51.549 --> 00:15:54.190 that are allowing the vitamin D to absorb. So 00:15:54.190 --> 00:15:57.210 most studies indicate six to eight hours after 00:15:57.210 --> 00:15:58.889 being in the sun before you're using the soap 00:15:58.889 --> 00:16:01.129 on your body. Now, let's say you're out for 30 00:16:01.129 --> 00:16:02.850 minutes in between, you know, your lunch break 00:16:02.850 --> 00:16:04.370 and you got to take a quick shower so you don't 00:16:04.370 --> 00:16:06.649 stink. Well, get in and wash under your arms, 00:16:06.690 --> 00:16:09.169 all right, with soap, but just use regular water 00:16:09.169 --> 00:16:11.230 on the rest of your body so the vitamin D will 00:16:11.230 --> 00:16:14.220 actually absorb. Okay. Brilliant. Yeah, I know 00:16:14.220 --> 00:16:16.340 that the percentage you absorb through sunlight 00:16:16.340 --> 00:16:19.620 is just a huge amount more than you can orally 00:16:19.620 --> 00:16:21.399 as well. So, I mean, it's a no -brainer and it's 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:24.460 free. And vitamin A will block the absorption 00:16:24.460 --> 00:16:27.879 of vitamin D. And so vitamins that I've developed 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:30.440 have no vitamin A and no beta carotene in it. 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.019 Vitamin A actually blocks the absorption of D3. 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:35.000 So if you have a multivitamin out there that 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:37.179 has vitamin A in it, it's blocking the absorption 00:16:37.179 --> 00:16:39.759 of the vitamin D3. And if it has beta carotene 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:42.759 in it, it's blocking the absorption of the xanthophylls, 00:16:42.860 --> 00:16:45.600 lutein, zeaxanthin, and astaxanthin that are 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.320 incredible for the skin and the retina, thus 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.580 your vision. So beta carotene and vitamin A, 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:54.559 I don't like those in multivitamins. Copper and 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.929 zinc. I don't like in multivitamins either. Right. 00:16:58.730 --> 00:17:01.669 Okay, well, we're talking about vision. So let's 00:17:01.669 --> 00:17:04.329 kind of bring in the whole first responder thing. 00:17:04.430 --> 00:17:06.309 So I'm going to start with a very, very brief 00:17:06.309 --> 00:17:09.609 story of why I wasn't a fireman in England. So 00:17:09.609 --> 00:17:14.490 I grew up, had basically very poor vision in 00:17:14.490 --> 00:17:18.700 my right eye. And then when I did the... the 00:17:18.700 --> 00:17:21.859 color vision tests the the ink block tests whatever 00:17:21.859 --> 00:17:24.640 the official name is i can see some of the numbers 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:27.799 not others so in the british medical system they 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.200 said james you're colorblind you can never be 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.339 a fighter pilot a fireman or all in this other 00:17:32.339 --> 00:17:34.859 list of cool jobs here's the crap ones left for 00:17:34.859 --> 00:17:38.200 you to do so i literally went years i trained 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.099 some one of my friends to become a fireman on 00:17:41.099 --> 00:17:43.480 the fitness side and it wasn't until i came to 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:45.900 the us i don't even know what clicked in me but 00:17:45.900 --> 00:17:48.619 one day i realized i can see these different 00:17:48.619 --> 00:17:50.779 colors. I can differentiate the traffic lights. 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.440 And really, it was just a kind of leap of faith. 00:17:54.539 --> 00:17:56.019 I went through fire school everywhere I did the 00:17:56.019 --> 00:17:58.220 medical, and they just showed me the little pegs 00:17:58.220 --> 00:18:00.079 they have outside the doctor's office, and they 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.759 asked me just to read those colors. I read them 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:03.900 off perfectly, and they went, all right, they 00:18:03.900 --> 00:18:08.000 checked the box. So with color vision specifically, 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:10.319 I realized, and correct me if I'm wrong, that 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.920 it was like vision, that you weren't either completely 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:17.210 gray, blind. or perfect color vision that there 00:18:17.210 --> 00:18:19.690 was a spectrum in between. And I was not too 00:18:19.690 --> 00:18:22.690 far off normal. I just would never be a fashion 00:18:22.690 --> 00:18:26.470 designer probably. So let's talk about color 00:18:26.470 --> 00:18:31.130 vision first. So A, how valid is that color vision 00:18:31.130 --> 00:18:34.250 test today in 2017? Well, it is a very valid 00:18:34.250 --> 00:18:37.049 test, but it's almost a useless test. And the 00:18:37.049 --> 00:18:39.230 reason for this is you have a color deficiency. 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:42.839 nobody's really truly colorblind. It is very 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:44.759 rare. Colorblind means you only see in black 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:46.900 and white. And that's a very, very rare. I've 00:18:46.900 --> 00:18:49.380 never seen it in my life. Color deficiency is 00:18:49.380 --> 00:18:51.299 very common. And you probably have a red -green 00:18:51.299 --> 00:18:53.460 deficiency. We have red -green deficiencies and 00:18:53.460 --> 00:18:55.319 blue -yellow deficiencies. And so that means, 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:59.089 yes, a job like a fashion coordinator. All right. 00:18:59.349 --> 00:19:01.049 Probably wouldn't be ideal because you have trouble 00:19:01.049 --> 00:19:04.509 differentiating between different hues of reds 00:19:04.509 --> 00:19:06.829 and different hues of green. But if I hold a 00:19:06.829 --> 00:19:08.369 cap that's red and one green, you can definitely 00:19:08.369 --> 00:19:10.630 say it's red and green. It will not affect your 00:19:10.630 --> 00:19:12.809 life in anything you do unless you're having 00:19:12.809 --> 00:19:15.250 to match colors that are very similar. So you 00:19:15.250 --> 00:19:16.950 could be a jet fire pilot. You could be a policeman. 00:19:17.049 --> 00:19:19.410 You could be a military. It's not going to affect 00:19:19.410 --> 00:19:23.019 you at all. But. For some reason, if you want 00:19:23.019 --> 00:19:25.400 to go into the military, even the Coast Guard 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.660 or anything like that, you know, you have to 00:19:27.660 --> 00:19:30.480 pass these color plates. Ishihara color plate 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.359 test. And then we have Farnsworth lantern test, 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.920 which is even more difficult. It's interesting 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:38.920 because a lot of people don't get the job they 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:40.799 want because they're, quote, colorblind, and 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:43.059 all they have is a very mild color deficiency 00:19:43.059 --> 00:19:45.380 that won't affect them. I've gotten many people 00:19:45.380 --> 00:19:49.279 able to fly helicopters and become jet fighter 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:53.599 pilots, commercial airline pilots, by simply 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:56.720 writing a letter. The eye doctor writes a letter, 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.390 and they're able to get that job. If they require 00:20:00.390 --> 00:20:04.069 you to pass an Ishihara color plate, well, we 00:20:04.069 --> 00:20:06.349 do have contact lenses. Not many doctors know 00:20:06.349 --> 00:20:08.269 about this. They don't know how to fit them. 00:20:08.390 --> 00:20:10.250 They don't even know they exist. It's called 00:20:10.250 --> 00:20:13.390 X -Chrome. X -Chrome is a contact lens, soft 00:20:13.390 --> 00:20:16.369 lens you wear on your non -dominant eye, and 00:20:16.369 --> 00:20:18.890 you could pass every single plate on the color 00:20:18.890 --> 00:20:22.029 plate test. So that's something that's available, 00:20:22.269 --> 00:20:25.430 X -Chrome for color vision anomalies. So anybody 00:20:25.430 --> 00:20:27.710 listening, if they want to go and pass those 00:20:27.710 --> 00:20:31.009 color plates, ask your local optometrist to fit 00:20:31.009 --> 00:20:33.750 you in. We'll call around first because 90 % 00:20:33.750 --> 00:20:35.109 of them have no clue what you're talking about 00:20:35.109 --> 00:20:38.609 in an X -Chrome contact lens, and you'll pass. 00:20:39.280 --> 00:20:41.039 That's fantastic. Because like I said, that was 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.000 the only stumbling block. I'm not saying that 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.000 I was maybe physically ready. When I was 18, 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.180 I was very small and everything. And life unfolds 00:20:48.180 --> 00:20:49.640 the way it's supposed to. So I was obviously 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:51.819 meant to become here and become a fireman and 00:20:51.819 --> 00:20:54.960 also be a medic at the same time. But that literally 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:57.779 was the only stumbling block and was totally 00:20:57.779 --> 00:21:01.539 discounted. possibility of doing it because there 00:21:01.539 --> 00:21:03.339 was none of that conversation so i'm hoping that 00:21:03.339 --> 00:21:05.839 someone out listening now that might be the only 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:07.880 thing that's in their way and there you go you 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.740 have a solution so um with the vision itself 00:21:11.740 --> 00:21:15.559 my left eye to this day is amazing did all the 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.839 work for my right my right was crap um and uh 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:21.900 i went and had lasik done which i mean i could 00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:25.670 pass the test with with the glasses on But can 00:21:25.670 --> 00:21:27.029 you tell me something about LASIK? I have to 00:21:27.029 --> 00:21:29.650 say LASIK to me worked phenomenally well. The 00:21:29.650 --> 00:21:31.910 recovery wasn't even close to as quick as they 00:21:31.910 --> 00:21:33.710 said it was going to be. I had dry eye and itchiness 00:21:33.710 --> 00:21:38.450 for months. I've still got 2015 on the test these 00:21:38.450 --> 00:21:40.589 days. So can you give us a little history about 00:21:40.589 --> 00:21:43.490 that? And then, you know, is the current one 00:21:43.490 --> 00:21:45.609 the best one or is there even better stuff coming? 00:21:45.829 --> 00:21:47.750 Absolutely. LASIK surgery has come a long way. 00:21:47.789 --> 00:21:50.309 I was actually with Stephen Brent, Dr. Stephen 00:21:50.309 --> 00:21:51.930 Brent at the Eye Surgery Center of Louisiana 00:21:51.930 --> 00:21:55.170 in New Orleans in 1991 when he did the first 00:21:55.170 --> 00:21:58.619 LASIK procedure in America. And then I opened 00:21:58.619 --> 00:22:02.220 three LASIK centers here in Florida. And LASIK 00:22:02.220 --> 00:22:05.000 is really in the hands of a competent LASIK surgeon 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.980 with new generation technology. It's an amazing 00:22:07.980 --> 00:22:11.220 procedure, right? Remember what your mama said, 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:13.430 you get what you pay for. It sounds too good 00:22:13.430 --> 00:22:16.609 to be true. It usually is. Be very leery or weary 00:22:16.609 --> 00:22:19.650 of these bait and switch organizations that are 00:22:19.650 --> 00:22:23.150 claiming $199 per eye for LASIK surgery. Nobody's 00:22:23.150 --> 00:22:25.410 doing LASIK surgery for $199. You're going to 00:22:25.410 --> 00:22:27.069 go there and then you're going to say, oh, Mr. 00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:29.509 Smith, your parameters aren't correct. Now you've 00:22:29.509 --> 00:22:31.650 got to go up to $1 ,500 per eye if you want to 00:22:31.650 --> 00:22:34.789 have LASIK surgery. So, you know, the going rate 00:22:34.789 --> 00:22:37.950 right now is about $1 ,500 now, about $3 ,000 00:22:37.950 --> 00:22:40.990 to have LASIK. I always recommend asking how 00:22:40.990 --> 00:22:43.990 many procedures the LASIK surgeon has done. You 00:22:43.990 --> 00:22:46.170 want that LASIK surgeon to have done over 10 00:22:46.170 --> 00:22:49.549 ,000 procedures. Simple as that. I mean, many 00:22:49.549 --> 00:22:51.809 of my colleagues have done over 100 ,000 procedures 00:22:51.809 --> 00:22:54.769 now. So you want at least 10 ,000 because you 00:22:54.769 --> 00:22:56.150 don't want to be the first on the block or the 00:22:56.150 --> 00:22:58.809 first 10. You want to have somebody that's very 00:22:58.809 --> 00:23:01.230 seasoned, a veteran at this. You want to use 00:23:01.230 --> 00:23:04.349 new generation. technology, not old technology 00:23:04.349 --> 00:23:07.950 from 20 years ago, 15 years ago. So ask how old 00:23:07.950 --> 00:23:10.809 is their laser. You want an all laser procedure 00:23:10.809 --> 00:23:13.990 where they create the flap with the laser, an 00:23:13.990 --> 00:23:16.809 all laser procedure. I like the Allegretto. It's 00:23:16.809 --> 00:23:19.029 one of the best lasers out there, but many of 00:23:19.029 --> 00:23:20.829 the companies make great lasers now. So remember, 00:23:20.970 --> 00:23:24.240 good technology. and a great surgeon with a lot 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:27.160 of experience. But also, you have to go two consecutive 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:30.119 years with no change in your vision. So go see 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:32.980 your local optometrist. If you're a minus two 00:23:32.980 --> 00:23:35.619 myo, that's a number, and then next year you're 00:23:35.619 --> 00:23:38.460 minus 250, you progressively get a little worse, 00:23:38.539 --> 00:23:41.259 you should not have LASIK surgery. Go two years 00:23:41.259 --> 00:23:44.220 with no change, then you can have LASIK surgery. 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:47.700 It's great for people that are athletes. It's 00:23:47.700 --> 00:23:50.440 great for firemen, police officers that are in 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.039 a potential situation where where if their glasses 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:55.480 fog up or their contacts come out, life could 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:58.079 be in jeopardy. You know, racing cars, racing 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:00.940 motorcycles, things like that is great for those 00:24:00.940 --> 00:24:03.680 people. On the other side of the coin, there's 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:05.319 an old saying, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:08.500 And if you can wear contact lenses successfully 00:24:08.500 --> 00:24:12.039 or you like wearing glasses and you have no problems 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:15.359 at all, why do surgery, all right? Because surgery 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.470 is not without. potential complications. Remember, 00:24:18.589 --> 00:24:21.069 we minimize the complications with good surgeons, 00:24:21.230 --> 00:24:24.170 a lot of experience, good technology, but even 00:24:24.170 --> 00:24:26.690 with the best and most competent hands, the best 00:24:26.690 --> 00:24:29.190 technology, something can go wrong. You know, 00:24:29.210 --> 00:24:32.250 it's obviously not purpose, purposely, but something 00:24:32.250 --> 00:24:35.170 can go wrong. Everybody's eye reacts differently 00:24:35.170 --> 00:24:40.130 to surgery. So once again, if you have no problems, 00:24:40.250 --> 00:24:43.089 you know, why do surgery? But if you're a fireman, 00:24:43.089 --> 00:24:46.029 you know, law enforcement, military. you know, 00:24:46.049 --> 00:24:50.329 a big athlete, extremely nearsighted, where when 00:24:50.329 --> 00:24:52.529 you take your glasses off, you can't see at night. 00:24:52.569 --> 00:24:54.809 So you jump up, you don't know if it's your wife 00:24:54.809 --> 00:24:57.930 or a burglar in the house, then certainly these 00:24:57.930 --> 00:25:00.109 people are great candidates for LASIK surgery. 00:25:00.390 --> 00:25:02.809 Yeah. See, the area where I found I had a problem 00:25:02.809 --> 00:25:05.809 was not so much in a fire because you can't see 00:25:05.809 --> 00:25:08.269 anything anyway, pretty much, but it was driving 00:25:08.269 --> 00:25:10.450 to and from, especially at dusk. You know, you've 00:25:10.450 --> 00:25:13.410 got your sunglasses and... I think it's changed 00:25:13.410 --> 00:25:15.789 a little bit more now, but at the time it seemed 00:25:15.789 --> 00:25:19.210 like you could just get the serial killer looking 00:25:19.210 --> 00:25:22.470 prescription sunglasses and then you'd have to 00:25:22.470 --> 00:25:25.069 switch to the clear ones as it got towards night. 00:25:25.329 --> 00:25:28.230 And then having these two pairs, you know, it 00:25:28.230 --> 00:25:30.170 would always fall over and then land on the diamond 00:25:30.170 --> 00:25:32.190 plate and get scratched or I'd lose them or I'd 00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:36.269 step on them. So that for me was a huge thing. 00:25:36.349 --> 00:25:37.970 And then obviously then when I was on a scene, 00:25:38.109 --> 00:25:40.289 I could see a little bit more detail. I could 00:25:40.289 --> 00:25:42.869 see if someone was, you know. hanging out of 00:25:42.869 --> 00:25:45.150 a window even if it was several stories up versus 00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:47.950 that slight blurriness i had before so for me 00:25:47.950 --> 00:25:49.789 it worked very well i only have one eye done 00:25:49.789 --> 00:25:52.130 that's all i needed to have done it was about 00:25:52.130 --> 00:25:55.029 exactly like you said about 1500 um but i would 00:25:55.029 --> 00:25:57.869 say that investment was well well worth it right 00:25:57.869 --> 00:26:00.710 once again it's your livelihood the job that 00:26:00.710 --> 00:26:04.150 you're you're doing it perfect for you yeah absolutely 00:26:04.150 --> 00:26:07.470 all right so um the next was kind of transitions 00:26:07.470 --> 00:26:10.509 quite well I want to talk after this about some 00:26:10.509 --> 00:26:12.250 of the common problems that you see with vision. 00:26:12.369 --> 00:26:16.970 But the one thing that LASIK doesn't fix is the 00:26:16.970 --> 00:26:19.269 aging of the eye, isn't it? So can you tell us 00:26:19.269 --> 00:26:22.400 the difference between... what LASIK does fix, 00:26:22.500 --> 00:26:25.720 and then what happens as we age. Right. So when 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:28.380 we hit the age 40, that's called presbyopia. 00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:30.380 That's when the human crystalline lens in the 00:26:30.380 --> 00:26:33.420 eye loses elasticity, and we lose that ability 00:26:33.420 --> 00:26:36.460 to focus up close. LASIK will not fix that. So 00:26:36.460 --> 00:26:38.740 if you have LASIK at 21 years of age, you're 00:26:38.740 --> 00:26:40.099 going to have great vision. When you hit 40, 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.640 45 years of age, your arms aren't long enough 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:44.519 anymore. You'll find you're holding things out 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:46.720 further and further to see clearly, and that's 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:49.339 when you have to wear reading glasses or bifocals 00:26:49.339 --> 00:26:52.339 or progressive. lenses or a multifocal contact 00:26:52.339 --> 00:26:57.000 lens. However, there is some evidence now, and 00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:59.759 I've been leading this whole field, this arena 00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.220 in research, there is some evidence if we consume 00:27:02.220 --> 00:27:06.099 certain foods, more of certain foods. we can 00:27:06.099 --> 00:27:08.180 actually improve the focusing ability in our 00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:11.400 eye. And the big food, one food that's a power 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.740 food is wild Alaskan salmon. Oh, really? So wild 00:27:14.740 --> 00:27:17.299 Alaskan salmon, not only very high in omega -3, 00:27:17.420 --> 00:27:21.319 but high in a super carotenoid called astaxanthin. 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.519 This is what gives the wild Alaskan salmon its 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:27.220 orange color. The algae, something called hematococcus, 00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.619 that the little fish eat, and then the salmon 00:27:29.619 --> 00:27:32.700 eat the little fish, and they get this astaxanthin 00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:34.900 into their body. It improves muscle endurance 00:27:34.900 --> 00:27:37.299 and muscle recovery in the body. It improves 00:27:37.299 --> 00:27:41.339 night vision, reaction time. Great for a firefighter, 00:27:41.339 --> 00:27:44.180 all right? It also helps impregnate into the 00:27:44.180 --> 00:27:46.920 macula zone, helping to filter out some of the 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.519 harmful blue light that can be very damaging. 00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:51.980 It actually impregnates into the skin so you 00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:54.420 don't have to use a sunscreen, but it will not. 00:27:54.539 --> 00:27:58.480 block the vitamin D3 absorption. So wild Alaskan 00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.240 salmon, if you eat that frequently, then your 00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:04.059 focusing ability will be better. Now you have 00:28:04.059 --> 00:28:06.220 to eat it almost every day. Now most people aren't 00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:07.839 going to do that. It's got to be wild salmon, 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.720 not farm -raised salmon. So I actually developed 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.160 a supplement called Fortify Focus. And this is 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:15.980 about eight years ago now. I've gone into the 00:28:15.980 --> 00:28:18.859 fourth revision of it. And we've taken carotenoids, 00:28:18.900 --> 00:28:21.940 lutein, zeaxanthin isomers, and six milligrams 00:28:21.940 --> 00:28:25.240 of astaxanthin that was in all the studies. And 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.079 I'm 55 years of age. I've been on it six years 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:30.779 now. When I was 49, I had to wear reading glasses 00:28:30.779 --> 00:28:33.460 for anything up close. Now at 55, if I'm going 00:28:33.460 --> 00:28:36.279 to sit down and read a small print book, I will 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:37.839 put reading glasses on if I'm going to sit down 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:39.700 and read it late at night for a long period of 00:28:39.700 --> 00:28:42.519 time. But for my job purposes, I can read anything 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.000 I need, my cell phone. I can see anything I need 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.319 up close ever since I've been taking this one 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:50.980 little pill, Fortify Focus, once a day. So remember, 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:55.220 aging is oxidation and inflammation. And so astaxanthin 00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:57.599 is the most potent natural anti -inflammatory 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.240 known to man. And then the lutein and zeaxanthin 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:06.829 in it add more oxidative stress. combating against 00:29:06.829 --> 00:29:11.130 free radicals. So lutein, zeaxanthin, and astaxanthin, 00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:14.430 those three combined help to combat against free 00:29:14.430 --> 00:29:17.150 radical damage, which is oxidation or the rusting 00:29:17.150 --> 00:29:20.269 of our body. So I call it a little anti -aging 00:29:20.269 --> 00:29:23.609 pill, combating against oxidation and inflammation 00:29:23.609 --> 00:29:27.309 in the entire body, but targeting the eye. It 00:29:27.309 --> 00:29:29.750 actually crosses the blood retinal barrier getting 00:29:29.750 --> 00:29:31.730 into the eye. And now you've got to think about 00:29:31.730 --> 00:29:34.759 this. Everybody is on a digital apparatus these 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.920 days. We're all on an iPhone, an iPad, a laptop, 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.099 a computer. We're watching TV on LED screens. 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.220 We have LED lighting now. So all of this emits 00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:47.140 blue light. And I've done a lot of research in 00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:50.140 this area. Blue light is very damaging to our 00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:52.059 eye. We're seeing children now at very young 00:29:52.059 --> 00:29:54.920 ages developing a form of degeneration in their 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.619 macula that they shouldn't be getting until they're 00:29:57.619 --> 00:30:01.750 75 years of age. And we're just about 100 % known 00:30:01.750 --> 00:30:04.130 now it's related to all this blue light exposure. 00:30:04.730 --> 00:30:08.049 And so you can wear lenses now that actually 00:30:08.049 --> 00:30:10.289 guard against blue light. Blue light defense 00:30:10.289 --> 00:30:13.950 is a great lens. And you can take a little pill 00:30:13.950 --> 00:30:15.990 that has the carotenoids. Remember, lutein and 00:30:15.990 --> 00:30:19.490 zeaxanthin isomers and astaxanthin act like an 00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:23.769 internal blue light filter. And so my 11 -year 00:30:23.769 --> 00:30:25.849 -old daughter, Mackenzie, I make her when she's 00:30:25.849 --> 00:30:27.809 doing her work at night wear blue light defense 00:30:27.809 --> 00:30:30.700 lenses. and take one little pill a day of the 00:30:30.700 --> 00:30:33.720 Fortify Focus. I take it. My 89 -year -old parents 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.480 take it. I think I've had 250 ,000 people throughout 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.180 the world that are taking it now. So remember, 00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.660 if you eat the foods, you don't need to take 00:30:41.660 --> 00:30:44.279 the supplement. But realistically... Are we all 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.160 eating wild Alaskan salmon, organic kale, organic 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.500 orange bell peppers, and goji berries on a daily 00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:53.880 basis? Probably not. Okay, well, a couple of 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:55.900 things I want to touch on from what you were 00:30:55.900 --> 00:30:57.539 talking about. The very first thing was you were 00:30:57.539 --> 00:31:00.359 talking about elasticity. A few years ago, it 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.180 seemed like one of the optical buzzes were exercises 00:31:04.180 --> 00:31:07.339 that you could do for your eyes. Was there any 00:31:07.339 --> 00:31:10.259 validity in that? The see clearly method. Yes. 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.619 Yeah, it was like, I don't know, $89 .99 or something 00:31:15.619 --> 00:31:18.680 like that, three easy payments. You know, that 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.480 one, there was a class action suit against them, 00:31:21.500 --> 00:31:22.799 and they had to give all their money back. It 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.859 was the last I heard. They did a lot of marketing, 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:28.779 a lot of advertising for this. I had people that 00:31:28.779 --> 00:31:30.920 brought this into my office, the whole packet, 00:31:30.980 --> 00:31:33.549 the book. everything and say it didn't work it 00:31:33.549 --> 00:31:35.690 didn't work it didn't work and they were actually 00:31:35.690 --> 00:31:39.150 targeting uh talk shows all right there was on 00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:41.670 talk radio uh where people that are you know 00:31:41.670 --> 00:31:45.269 between 25 and 55 65 listen the people they were 00:31:45.269 --> 00:31:48.710 going after were the lasik markets And it does 00:31:48.710 --> 00:31:51.210 not work for that. You can do eye exercises all 00:31:51.210 --> 00:31:53.690 day long. I don't care if you're a minus four 00:31:53.690 --> 00:31:55.869 mile. That means you cannot see in the distance 00:31:55.869 --> 00:31:57.829 at all. You got to put your glasses on, your 00:31:57.829 --> 00:32:00.089 contacts in. You can do these exercises all day 00:32:00.089 --> 00:32:04.210 long. It's not going to change that. Now, that 00:32:04.210 --> 00:32:06.650 see clearly method did have some validity to 00:32:06.650 --> 00:32:08.829 it. I mean, a behavioral optometrist, a vision 00:32:08.829 --> 00:32:11.690 therapist can use that. I mean, that is tried 00:32:11.690 --> 00:32:14.900 and true for helping children. In the developmental 00:32:14.900 --> 00:32:17.400 stages, children that have a lazy eye, an eye 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.960 that turns in or out, children that have accommodative 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.259 and focusing problems, they over -focus, they 00:32:23.259 --> 00:32:27.180 under -focus. Absolutely, that system is probably 00:32:27.180 --> 00:32:30.619 really great for that. But to target people that 00:32:30.619 --> 00:32:34.200 are wanting LASIK surgery, it wasn't a good thing. 00:32:34.589 --> 00:32:37.529 Right. Okay. So there's some validity, but it's 00:32:37.529 --> 00:32:39.809 more of a narrower field than they let us believe. 00:32:39.829 --> 00:32:42.210 I think at the age from birth to about probably 00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:45.549 14 or 15 years of age, certainly the right forms 00:32:45.549 --> 00:32:48.289 of eye exercises can help the eye. And even as 00:32:48.289 --> 00:32:50.890 you get older, I mean, it can help improve circulation 00:32:50.890 --> 00:32:54.150 to the muscles in the eye. So I even tell my 00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:56.990 elderly patients just to gaze left and right 00:32:56.990 --> 00:32:59.809 on the wall, up and down, you know, just to get 00:32:59.809 --> 00:33:02.819 some extreme gazes in. You know, it can help 00:33:02.819 --> 00:33:04.440 probably strengthen the muscles a little bit. 00:33:04.460 --> 00:33:07.000 It helps improve circulation. Right. So we'll 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.079 just go outside and be in nature where you'll 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.000 naturally look around anyway instead of at a 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.539 screen like we all do these days. Okay. So one 00:33:15.539 --> 00:33:20.079 of the big things that I harp on in these podcasts 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.279 is the ill effects of many of our jobs on us. 00:33:24.380 --> 00:33:26.680 And some are out of our control. Some I think 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.119 we can take more of a control. But one area is 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:33.000 sleep deprivation. Is there a specific effect 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.359 on the optical side as far as sleep deprivation 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:40.039 is concerned? Sleep deprivation is huge in this 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:41.799 country. I was probably the biggest sleep -deprived 00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:43.980 person you've ever met, you know, and I was developing 00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:47.660 six companies over the last 25 years. And I sleep 00:33:47.660 --> 00:33:50.500 like a baby now. And one of the reasons for sleep 00:33:50.500 --> 00:33:54.500 deprivation in today's society is the blue light, 00:33:54.660 --> 00:33:58.160 right? It's everywhere. So what happens is that 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.059 blue light goes into the eye. It tells the pineal 00:34:01.059 --> 00:34:04.240 gland and the brain, do not secrete melatonin. 00:34:04.879 --> 00:34:06.819 Melatonin levels do not go up. Then you go to 00:34:06.819 --> 00:34:10.139 bed at night. You don't sleep. You turn and flip 00:34:10.139 --> 00:34:11.719 over, and you don't get a good night's sleep. 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.500 You're not dreaming. When you dream, that means 00:34:14.500 --> 00:34:16.820 you're going through REM phase of sleep, and 00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:18.440 that means you're sleeping. You're sleeping in 00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.719 the right phase of sleep that is restful, that 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:25.260 lowers cortisol levels, which is a stress hormone 00:34:25.260 --> 00:34:28.260 in your body. If you sleep deprived, cortisol 00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:31.400 levels go way up. Inflammation goes way up. People 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.239 get anxiety disorders, panic attacks, arthritis, 00:34:34.619 --> 00:34:36.840 all sorts of problems just from being sleep deprived. 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:38.619 Remember when we're talking about anti -aging, 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:40.639 one of the biggest things is getting a good night's 00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.409 sleep. So as a rule of thumb, I mean, One time 00:34:45.409 --> 00:34:47.769 I actually went, took the kids up to the mountains 00:34:47.769 --> 00:34:51.190 up in Tennessee, and we got there, and it's up 00:34:51.190 --> 00:34:52.710 on the top of this big hill. We were going mountain 00:34:52.710 --> 00:34:55.369 biking and kayaking, whitewater rafting, and 00:34:55.369 --> 00:34:59.130 the actual cabin had no electricity. It had electricity, 00:34:59.329 --> 00:35:02.269 but the guy had not paid the bill. Oh. And so 00:35:02.269 --> 00:35:03.929 our cell phones didn't work up there either. 00:35:04.090 --> 00:35:06.349 I got to tell you, we did not. It was around 00:35:06.349 --> 00:35:08.389 Halloween, so it was kind of cool. It wasn't 00:35:08.389 --> 00:35:10.570 hot, so it wasn't that bad. We actually did. 00:35:10.710 --> 00:35:13.570 We were there for five days. read everything 00:35:13.570 --> 00:35:16.349 by candlelight. At night when it got dark, we 00:35:16.349 --> 00:35:19.269 actually went to bed. It's the best sleep I've 00:35:19.269 --> 00:35:22.530 gotten probably in my entire life. We felt so 00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:25.650 rejuvenated after that five, six days because 00:35:25.650 --> 00:35:27.590 we were sleeping. I mean, it gets eight o 'clock 00:35:27.590 --> 00:35:29.750 at night. We got in the bed and we went to bed. 00:35:30.309 --> 00:35:32.530 And it's because our melatonin levels were going 00:35:32.530 --> 00:35:34.550 up. We didn't have all this artificial lighting 00:35:34.550 --> 00:35:37.550 that's simulating the sun telling the brain don't 00:35:37.550 --> 00:35:41.030 secrete melatonin. So as a rule of thumb, to 00:35:41.030 --> 00:35:43.550 sleep better at night, You make your room as 00:35:43.550 --> 00:35:46.250 dark as you can. You don't want any LED lights 00:35:46.250 --> 00:35:48.409 from anything. LED lights, take some electrical 00:35:48.409 --> 00:35:51.650 tape, put it over the smoke detector, the carbon 00:35:51.650 --> 00:35:55.030 dioxide detector on your TV. Unplug the clock 00:35:55.030 --> 00:35:58.170 radio. Unplug anything within 15 feet of your 00:35:58.170 --> 00:36:00.369 bed. You don't want any electrical current within 00:36:00.369 --> 00:36:02.610 15 feet of your bed. Put your cell phone in the 00:36:02.610 --> 00:36:04.769 bathroom. Put it on high so you can hear it's 00:36:04.769 --> 00:36:06.929 an emergency if you're on call, but don't put 00:36:06.929 --> 00:36:09.750 it by your bed. So everything away from you, 00:36:09.829 --> 00:36:13.070 make your room as dark as you can. and turn the 00:36:13.070 --> 00:36:14.809 air conditioning down as low as you can tolerate 00:36:14.809 --> 00:36:18.070 it. Dark and cool, and you'll sleep a lot better. 00:36:18.210 --> 00:36:20.289 As a rule of thumb, you don't want any visual 00:36:20.289 --> 00:36:24.210 stimuli three hours before bed. Now, that's hard 00:36:24.210 --> 00:36:25.769 because people want to watch TV. They want to 00:36:25.769 --> 00:36:28.130 watch the news. But if you really want to sleep 00:36:28.130 --> 00:36:31.150 well and practice anti -aging, no computer work, 00:36:31.250 --> 00:36:34.969 iPhone, iPad, television, but three hours before 00:36:34.969 --> 00:36:38.369 bed. Well, we had two episodes now on sleep. 00:36:38.469 --> 00:36:41.050 One was Kurt Parsley, who was a Navy SEAL turned 00:36:41.050 --> 00:36:44.809 MD. And then just about two episodes ago, I had 00:36:44.809 --> 00:36:48.190 Nick Littlehales, who is sleep coach to some 00:36:48.190 --> 00:36:50.769 of the top sports teams in the world. And he 00:36:50.769 --> 00:36:54.130 was saying that recently he's done exactly that 00:36:54.130 --> 00:36:56.849 for his own home, where he's just trying an experiment 00:36:56.849 --> 00:36:59.099 where he does candlelight. as soon as it gets 00:36:59.099 --> 00:37:01.380 dark. And I think he reported pretty much the 00:37:01.380 --> 00:37:04.239 same thing. So it's amazing when I start having 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.960 these podcasts overlap with each other. And blue 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.159 light is a massive one. And he was explaining 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.679 that the light from a fire, light from a candle, 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.000 light from the stars, because it doesn't have 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.480 the blue light, you don't get that stimulus of 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:19.820 it's daytime now. And they had the technology 00:37:19.820 --> 00:37:22.960 of when you do work some wonky hours, you need 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.550 to... kind of break that cycle and simulate the 00:37:25.550 --> 00:37:27.409 daylight, then you deliberately put the blue 00:37:27.409 --> 00:37:30.050 light into your life. Right. And you can go to 00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:32.550 a website I created called bluelightdefense .com, 00:37:32.690 --> 00:37:35.210 and people can go to that, bluelightdefense .com, 00:37:35.269 --> 00:37:38.030 and you can see links to some studies from Harvard, 00:37:38.050 --> 00:37:40.530 some really legitimate studies. You can see some 00:37:40.530 --> 00:37:43.050 of the stuff that I've written on there about 00:37:43.050 --> 00:37:46.829 blocking and filtering the blue light. I mean, 00:37:46.849 --> 00:37:49.909 it's a problem. And the optometry and ophthalmology 00:37:49.909 --> 00:37:52.829 is seeing that now we're trying to address what 00:37:52.829 --> 00:37:55.630 can we do. So right now, the best is to take 00:37:55.630 --> 00:37:57.670 the supplement that I talk about, the Fortify 00:37:57.670 --> 00:38:00.909 Focus, to block it with the correct type of lenses. 00:38:01.130 --> 00:38:03.750 A lot of lens companies are now coming out with 00:38:03.750 --> 00:38:06.110 lenses similar to blue light defense lenses that 00:38:06.110 --> 00:38:07.809 are filtering the blue light. The thing about 00:38:07.809 --> 00:38:13.010 blue light defense, it blocks 99 .9 % of the 00:38:13.010 --> 00:38:16.210 most detrimental to your retina. Blue light, 00:38:16.269 --> 00:38:19.909 which is 411 nanometers, blocks 99 % of that. 00:38:19.989 --> 00:38:22.250 Right now, most companies are blocking 20 % to 00:38:22.250 --> 00:38:25.309 30%. So that's why I like the blue light defense. 00:38:25.829 --> 00:38:27.710 There's a few other lenses on the market that 00:38:27.710 --> 00:38:30.130 do that, but they're... few and far between. 00:38:30.389 --> 00:38:33.949 But I predict in the next year, and I know this 00:38:33.949 --> 00:38:36.690 for a fact, that some of the big lens manufacturers 00:38:36.690 --> 00:38:39.010 are going to the same monomer that's used in 00:38:39.010 --> 00:38:41.329 the blue light defense lens. So it's going to 00:38:41.329 --> 00:38:43.610 become mainstream in just about all glasses soon. 00:38:43.849 --> 00:38:46.570 Right. My wife just got it and she hates going 00:38:46.570 --> 00:38:50.230 in any stores that have the artificial light. 00:38:50.289 --> 00:38:51.809 It gives her headaches and all that kind of thing. 00:38:51.889 --> 00:38:54.010 And why wouldn't it? I mean, it's not light. 00:38:54.409 --> 00:38:56.730 It's not something that we're used to looking 00:38:56.730 --> 00:39:01.260 at. Okay, so... Specifically then, we talked 00:39:01.260 --> 00:39:03.059 about sleep deprivation and the inflammation. 00:39:03.500 --> 00:39:06.260 Are there any other eye problems that you tend 00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:09.239 to see a lot in police officers or firefighters 00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:13.440 or paramedics or military even? Well, you know, 00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.420 I see a lot of cataracts, okay? And that's because 00:39:16.420 --> 00:39:18.860 a lot of these people are around toxic chemicals, 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.579 they're around a lot of heat, trauma, all right? 00:39:22.619 --> 00:39:24.480 You can get trauma as a fireman or a policeman. 00:39:25.019 --> 00:39:28.690 And then a lot of times... their primary care 00:39:28.690 --> 00:39:31.530 physician is putting them on steroids for the 00:39:31.530 --> 00:39:33.510 inflammation they have in their body, all right? 00:39:33.590 --> 00:39:36.250 Things like prednisone and delta zone. And that 00:39:36.250 --> 00:39:39.010 creates cataracts as well, a type of cataract 00:39:39.010 --> 00:39:41.250 called posterior subcapsular cataract. The good 00:39:41.250 --> 00:39:43.090 news is cataract surgery is relatively simple. 00:39:43.150 --> 00:39:45.449 It's a 10 -minute procedure. It's painless, no 00:39:45.449 --> 00:39:48.429 needles anymore. It's almost an all -laser procedure 00:39:48.429 --> 00:39:51.230 and a little ultrasound. But I do see a lot of 00:39:51.230 --> 00:39:54.869 cataracts. I see a lot of dry eye in this area. 00:39:54.989 --> 00:39:57.489 So using some good lubricating eye drops periodically. 00:39:57.969 --> 00:40:00.170 Believe it or not, taking a good omega -3 fish 00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:03.110 oil is a good idea. Omega -3 has been shown to 00:40:03.110 --> 00:40:07.030 help. quell the dry eye, help reduce dry eye 00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:10.750 symptomology. Hydration is very important. Most 00:40:10.750 --> 00:40:13.250 of us do not drink enough water. If we're drinking 00:40:13.250 --> 00:40:16.389 water, we're drinking this purified water, not 00:40:16.389 --> 00:40:18.630 to mention any names for legal ramifications, 00:40:18.829 --> 00:40:21.230 but there's a lot of bottled water. Quite frankly, 00:40:21.309 --> 00:40:23.789 the majority of bottled water people drink, it's 00:40:23.789 --> 00:40:26.610 purified. So it's either reverse osmosis or distilled. 00:40:26.690 --> 00:40:28.610 You want to buy something, a bottled water that 00:40:28.610 --> 00:40:31.869 says spring water because it's... alkaline and 00:40:31.869 --> 00:40:34.030 has minerals in it so the minerals don't leach 00:40:34.030 --> 00:40:35.949 out of your body when you're drinking something 00:40:35.949 --> 00:40:39.460 due to the laws of osmosis. So hydration is important. 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:42.340 Using artificial tears, taking omega -3, that'll 00:40:42.340 --> 00:40:45.360 help the dry eye. Dry eyes, sandy, gritty, burny, 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.639 teary, itchy eyes. And you know, you guys are 00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.480 on call all the time and it might be a long day 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.219 and then you have to wake up in the middle of 00:40:53.219 --> 00:40:55.960 the night to go to a fire. Well, your eyes could 00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.079 be dehydrated. They dehydrate when you sleep 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.679 at night. By the end of the day, they're starting 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:03.099 to dehydrate. And if you're having to drive relatively 00:41:03.099 --> 00:41:07.250 fast to a dark, you know, dark area. Your vision 00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:09.530 has to be good. That's why you had LASIK surgery. 00:41:09.670 --> 00:41:11.690 Well, if your eyes are dry, the optics of the 00:41:11.690 --> 00:41:16.150 eye can drop as much as 75 % at night. So that's 00:41:16.150 --> 00:41:19.090 why it's a good idea. to have some artificial 00:41:19.090 --> 00:41:22.590 tears handy at the firehouse. And right before 00:41:22.590 --> 00:41:24.909 you get out in that rig to go drive to the fire, 00:41:25.050 --> 00:41:26.889 you know, put some lubricating eye drops in the 00:41:26.889 --> 00:41:29.070 eye, especially if it's in the evening because 00:41:29.070 --> 00:41:31.690 it's going to improve optics dramatically. Race 00:41:31.690 --> 00:41:34.150 car drivers do it. If you're 12 hours of Le Mans, 00:41:34.329 --> 00:41:37.409 24 hours of Daytona, you know, race car drivers 00:41:37.409 --> 00:41:39.570 will put artificial tears in their eyes because 00:41:39.570 --> 00:41:41.150 the optics of their eyes are going to work a 00:41:41.150 --> 00:41:42.989 lot better while they're driving. Okay. Now, 00:41:43.050 --> 00:41:46.469 I know it's very simplified, but is the eye repairing 00:41:46.469 --> 00:41:49.150 itself? when it's closed during sleep? Absolutely. 00:41:49.230 --> 00:41:51.670 The cornea is one part of your body that regenerates. 00:41:51.710 --> 00:41:54.190 And so when you sleep, let's say you scratch 00:41:54.190 --> 00:41:56.510 your eye, all right, you get a corneal abrasion. 00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:59.030 It's a lot of pain because the cornea has more 00:41:59.030 --> 00:42:01.269 nerve endings than any part of your body. But 00:42:01.269 --> 00:42:03.690 close your eyes. When you go to bed at night, 00:42:03.809 --> 00:42:07.050 that epithelium starts to heal and grow back. 00:42:07.530 --> 00:42:10.510 And so I can see people with horrendous corneal 00:42:10.510 --> 00:42:12.860 abrasions. pieces of steel in the eye, and we 00:42:12.860 --> 00:42:14.900 have to remove the rust. So we have to use a 00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:17.559 drill in the cornea to remove the rust. And, 00:42:17.579 --> 00:42:20.760 you know, we've iatrogenically created a massive 00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.659 abrasion on their cornea. They're in severe pain. 00:42:22.860 --> 00:42:27.940 Well, 24 hours, it's healed 80%. 48 hours, it's 00:42:27.940 --> 00:42:30.619 usually healed almost 100%. So the cornea does 00:42:30.619 --> 00:42:34.639 heal very rapidly. And most... healthy, non -immune 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.320 compromised people. But as you get older, all 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.639 right, and you become immune compromised with 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.400 different diseases, then the cornea doesn't heal. 00:42:42.619 --> 00:42:44.679 And that's one of the biggest avenues that I 00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.780 see that patients come in with severe dry eyes. 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.260 But the Langeye Institute, my average age patient 00:42:50.260 --> 00:42:54.159 is 75. So I see patients over 100. And so these 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.960 people, just simply using artificial tears isn't 00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:58.880 enough for them. Right. Yeah. Because that's 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:00.539 another thing about every third day us being 00:43:00.539 --> 00:43:02.429 awake. I mean, some departments awake. pretty 00:43:02.429 --> 00:43:05.809 much all night. That's one day in three that 00:43:05.809 --> 00:43:08.070 they're not able to repair their eyes. So I'm 00:43:08.070 --> 00:43:10.849 sure that has a long -term effect too. Absolutely. 00:43:11.469 --> 00:43:15.349 Okay. All right. So I was just going to transition 00:43:15.349 --> 00:43:16.690 to something. I've forgotten what it was now. 00:43:16.929 --> 00:43:19.730 Oh, that's right. So you were talking about foreign 00:43:19.730 --> 00:43:22.349 objects in the eyes. So that's a real bone of 00:43:22.349 --> 00:43:25.480 contention for us on the EMS side. We'll, you 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.760 know, we'll get called for a 911 call and it 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:31.260 will be a foreign body corneal scratch. And, 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.579 you know, these patients are expected to be taken 00:43:33.579 --> 00:43:38.360 to the ER. Let me put it very bluntly. Who is 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.880 the best kind of professional to treat that kind 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.340 of injury? Not like a knife sticking out of the 00:43:44.340 --> 00:43:46.699 eye, but something a little more minor. I mean, 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:48.380 the emergency room isn't the best place to go 00:43:48.380 --> 00:43:51.800 because they're not prepared for that. Go to 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.860 your local optometrist or local ophthalmologist 00:43:53.860 --> 00:43:56.619 because they have the slit lamp, the biomicroscope. 00:43:56.619 --> 00:43:58.420 They have the technology. They have the training. 00:43:59.500 --> 00:44:03.539 We have certain types of algebra brushes, spuds, 00:44:03.539 --> 00:44:05.920 things that we can get foreign bodies, microscopic. 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.659 I mean, we can magnify things a thousand times 00:44:08.659 --> 00:44:12.039 or more if we have to. And so we can get the 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.519 smallest little particulate matter out. A lot 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.019 of times you'll go. to the emergency room, not 00:44:17.019 --> 00:44:18.539 to put down the emergency room, great place, 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.000 but you know, you have a red irritated eye and 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:22.699 they think you have pink eye. They put you on 00:44:22.699 --> 00:44:25.780 an antibiotic drop, okay? When it wasn't pink 00:44:25.780 --> 00:44:27.800 eye, it wasn't, it was something that was in 00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:29.480 the eye that they didn't know you had that was 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.840 creating this problem or it was a virus and an 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.880 antibiotic does absolutely nothing. So the gist 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.579 of this story, if you learn anything from this 00:44:37.579 --> 00:44:40.539 podcast, if you have a red irritated eye. go 00:44:40.539 --> 00:44:42.400 to the eye doctor, whether it's the optometrist 00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.739 or the ophthalmologist. It doesn't matter. Both 00:44:44.739 --> 00:44:47.760 of them are capable and trained to treat it medically 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:50.900 and even surgically if necessary. Okay. So then, 00:44:51.019 --> 00:44:54.039 this is kind of a general question, but at what 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.699 point would you go to the ER? Are there any specific 00:44:56.699 --> 00:45:00.300 anatomical signs for the eye where you're like, 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:03.619 okay, this is out of our non -emergent state? 00:45:03.980 --> 00:45:06.570 Yeah, I mean... It depends on the emergency room, 00:45:06.650 --> 00:45:08.570 right? So here, luckily enough, we have, you 00:45:08.570 --> 00:45:10.989 know, University of Florida, Shands, University 00:45:10.989 --> 00:45:14.329 of South Florida, Tampa General. So these emergency 00:45:14.329 --> 00:45:17.269 rooms do have ophthalmologists that are on call, 00:45:17.489 --> 00:45:19.909 residents that are on call. So if you have a 00:45:19.909 --> 00:45:23.369 sudden loss of vision, you know, a whole curtain 00:45:23.369 --> 00:45:25.630 comes over your vision and it's, you know, it's 00:45:25.630 --> 00:45:27.889 midnight, you can't go to your local eye doc. 00:45:28.050 --> 00:45:31.389 Well, you could go to an emergency room that 00:45:31.389 --> 00:45:35.539 has ophthalmology on call. If they don't, if 00:45:35.539 --> 00:45:38.199 it's a hospital and it doesn't, then it's a waste 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:39.719 of time. You can't go. They can't do anything. 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:41.380 And you're going to sit in the emergency room 00:45:41.380 --> 00:45:42.659 for seven hours, and they're going to charge 00:45:42.659 --> 00:45:44.840 you $1 ,500, and they weren't able to do anything. 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:48.219 So usually a university -based emergency room, 00:45:48.380 --> 00:45:51.760 if it's 30 minutes more to drive, that's where 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.500 you need to go if you're having some kind of 00:45:53.500 --> 00:45:55.639 significant eye problem. Now, obviously, if you 00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:57.579 get an acid in your eye or something like that, 00:45:57.619 --> 00:45:59.519 you can go to the local emergency room. But the 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.659 key for something like that, a chemical gets 00:46:01.659 --> 00:46:03.420 in your eye of some sort, whether it's a base 00:46:03.420 --> 00:46:05.699 or an acid. acid, you got to irrigate your eye 00:46:05.699 --> 00:46:08.960 out and the faster you irrigate out, the better. 00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:11.719 So here's an example. Let's say you're drinking 00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.079 a Coca -Cola, believe it or not, and somehow 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.460 acid just gets in your eye immediately. Don't 00:46:16.460 --> 00:46:18.539 go upstairs and go in the shower. Throw that 00:46:18.539 --> 00:46:20.380 Coca -Cola in your eye, believe it or not. If 00:46:20.380 --> 00:46:22.019 you can drink it, you can put it in your eye 00:46:22.019 --> 00:46:25.699 immediately. The faster you neutralize the chemical 00:46:25.699 --> 00:46:27.500 in your eye, the better. And then get to the 00:46:27.500 --> 00:46:30.340 sink and lavage your eye for, you know, 10, 15 00:46:30.340 --> 00:46:32.920 minutes. Then you can go to the emergency room 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:34.940 because they can help with the pain and they 00:46:34.940 --> 00:46:37.760 can help with it. So that's an emergency. A true 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.639 ocular emergency is any type of chemical, acid, 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:42.519 or base in your eye. That's an emergency. Has 00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.000 to be treated immediately. A central retinal 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:48.030 artery occlusion is an emergency. Most emergency 00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:50.510 rooms aren't going to handle that. That's when 00:46:50.510 --> 00:46:52.590 an artery gets occluded. They have to give you 00:46:52.590 --> 00:46:54.650 a clot buster, and usually it's a retina specialist 00:46:54.650 --> 00:46:56.829 that would do this, or they got to do central 00:46:56.829 --> 00:46:59.429 paracentesis where they puncture the eye, lower 00:46:59.429 --> 00:47:03.070 the pressure immediately. And so very rarely 00:47:03.070 --> 00:47:04.949 would the emergency room even know what's going 00:47:04.949 --> 00:47:08.989 on there. An acute angle glaucoma attack is also 00:47:08.989 --> 00:47:11.610 something that's when you get severe pain in 00:47:11.610 --> 00:47:14.429 the eye, blurred vision, and you're actually 00:47:14.429 --> 00:47:17.210 throwing up. You throw up severe pain and blurred 00:47:17.210 --> 00:47:19.670 vision. That's usually an acute angle glaucoma 00:47:19.670 --> 00:47:22.190 attack. The pressure's going up to 70, 80, or 00:47:22.190 --> 00:47:25.170 even 90 in your eye. And I guess you definitely 00:47:25.170 --> 00:47:27.409 could go to the emergency room for that. They 00:47:27.409 --> 00:47:29.170 probably won't know what to do, but they could 00:47:29.170 --> 00:47:31.829 call a doctor on call, and they could start an 00:47:31.829 --> 00:47:34.269 IV. They could give you a Diamox. They could 00:47:34.269 --> 00:47:37.360 put some drops in their eyes. And many emergency 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.840 rooms should be aware of what that is also. Now 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:42.900 emergency rooms are starting to check the pressure 00:47:42.900 --> 00:47:46.480 in the eye, and that is a true emergency. that's 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:47.940 another one you could go to the emergency room 00:47:47.940 --> 00:47:50.239 for as well. Okay, because two things. Firstly, 00:47:50.340 --> 00:47:52.460 what you just described from the paramedics' 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:54.139 point of view, we would think that was probably 00:47:54.139 --> 00:47:56.920 a bleed, cerebral bleed with the blurred vision, 00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.219 the vomiting, but it would be obviously intracranial 00:47:59.219 --> 00:48:01.820 pressure that was going up. And then what you 00:48:01.820 --> 00:48:03.960 said about the ophthalmologist being on call, 00:48:04.139 --> 00:48:07.260 the two hospitals that you named were what we 00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:09.719 call in our field level one trauma centers. So 00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:11.360 that's kind of a good correlation as well. If 00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.309 we do have something where... where there is 00:48:14.309 --> 00:48:17.989 more trauma to the eye, knowing that those kind 00:48:17.989 --> 00:48:20.070 of doctors are on staff there too, I think is 00:48:20.070 --> 00:48:22.329 very helpful for me as a medic to know that's 00:48:22.329 --> 00:48:26.050 part of the chain of care. All right, so one 00:48:26.050 --> 00:48:29.070 last one with optometry before we transition 00:48:29.070 --> 00:48:32.789 into the supplement size. What are some of the 00:48:32.789 --> 00:48:35.980 biggest myths in optometry? Or, you know, known 00:48:35.980 --> 00:48:38.639 by the general public. Right. Well, you know, 00:48:38.659 --> 00:48:40.400 they're thinking, oh, an optometrist isn't an 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.000 eye doctor, okay? An optometrist isn't trained, 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.139 you know? If you're not an ophthalmologist, you 00:48:46.139 --> 00:48:49.000 know, you're not a doctor, which that's crazy 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.719 because you have to go to four years of college 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:53.679 and then four years of optometry school at a 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:56.460 minimum. And now many optometrists are doing 00:48:56.460 --> 00:48:58.860 a one -year in a residency or two -year residency 00:48:58.860 --> 00:49:02.570 and another year to two in fellowship. And they're 00:49:02.570 --> 00:49:04.869 trained every bit as good as an ophthalmologist 00:49:04.869 --> 00:49:07.750 in disease management, in treatment of diseases 00:49:07.750 --> 00:49:11.010 like glaucoma, conjunctivitis, you know, lacerated 00:49:11.010 --> 00:49:14.590 corneas, and now surgical intervention as well. 00:49:14.670 --> 00:49:17.449 So depending on the state, many optometrists 00:49:17.449 --> 00:49:21.269 are doing laser procedures, photorefractive keratectomy, 00:49:21.309 --> 00:49:24.349 which is a form of LASIK surgery, you know, glaucoma 00:49:24.349 --> 00:49:28.840 laser procedures and things like this. So it's 00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.179 changed dramatically. I mean, I think 80 years 00:49:31.179 --> 00:49:34.300 ago, optometry was a two -year program. But now 00:49:34.300 --> 00:49:38.360 an optometrist is, like I said, your primary 00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:42.179 eye care physician that would do everything except 00:49:42.179 --> 00:49:45.400 major internal surgery. Then they'll refer you 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.880 to the ophthalmologist that's fellowship trained 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.179 in that particular area. So it's just like if 00:49:51.179 --> 00:49:54.719 you got a little ache in your knee, you don't 00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.400 go straight to the orthopedic surgeon and have 00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.489 knee surgery. All right. You go to your primary 00:49:58.489 --> 00:50:00.710 care physician. You got a little arthritis. You 00:50:00.710 --> 00:50:03.389 go to the rheumatologist. But you don't go straight 00:50:03.389 --> 00:50:05.929 to the orthopedic surgeon. You can think of it 00:50:05.929 --> 00:50:08.710 like that. The optometrist is kind of like the 00:50:08.710 --> 00:50:11.949 primary care physician of the eye. And the ophthalmologist 00:50:11.949 --> 00:50:13.750 is kind of like the orthopedic surgeon. It's 00:50:13.750 --> 00:50:17.250 the surgeon of the eye. Okay. Now, one more optical 00:50:17.250 --> 00:50:20.889 question I just realized I missed. You are developing 00:50:20.889 --> 00:50:23.949 a form of eye protection for extreme sports, 00:50:23.989 --> 00:50:25.610 and I'm assuming it would probably be very pertinent 00:50:25.610 --> 00:50:27.570 to tactical athletes as well. Could you tell 00:50:27.570 --> 00:50:29.530 us about that? Right. I've been working on it 00:50:29.530 --> 00:50:32.510 for many years, and I've got some really cool 00:50:32.510 --> 00:50:35.369 prototypes. I'm testing one right now, driving 00:50:35.369 --> 00:50:39.690 at 200 miles an hour. I've done things like we've 00:50:39.690 --> 00:50:42.449 gone kayaking with them and flipped over in rafts 00:50:42.449 --> 00:50:45.469 and mountain biking and, you know, put all the 00:50:45.469 --> 00:50:48.730 elements on the lenses to see how they react. 00:50:49.010 --> 00:50:51.309 So what I wanted to do is develop a lens that 00:50:51.309 --> 00:50:54.550 is almost impervious to scratching, that's impact 00:50:54.550 --> 00:50:58.599 resistant to a .22 caliber bullet. that increases 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.920 your contrast. So depending on the particular 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.840 sport, it can benefit you whether you're golf 00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.199 or baseball or, you know, driving a race car. 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.760 Whatever you're doing, it's going to increase 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.860 visual performance. A lot of sunglasses have 00:51:12.860 --> 00:51:14.880 terrible optics. A lot of the lenses are made 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:17.500 in China and the optics are terrible. You put 00:51:17.500 --> 00:51:19.579 them on and you actually see worse than when 00:51:19.579 --> 00:51:23.440 they're off. And so polarization isn't always 00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.380 ideal. Polarized lenses are great for If you're 00:51:27.380 --> 00:51:29.340 on the water, if you're a fisherman and you're 00:51:29.340 --> 00:51:32.420 on the water at the pool, it blocks the glare. 00:51:32.500 --> 00:51:35.420 But polarization blocks one whole meridian of 00:51:35.420 --> 00:51:38.179 a light. And so if you're mountain biking, you're 00:51:38.179 --> 00:51:40.820 going down a jagged downhill under the canopy 00:51:40.820 --> 00:51:43.420 of oak trees, it can be very dangerous wearing 00:51:43.420 --> 00:51:47.039 polarized lenses because you can't see the detail 00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:49.320 of that jagged. And you're going to hit one of 00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:50.900 the rocks and you're going to endo and potentially 00:51:50.900 --> 00:51:53.880 break your neck. Also, if you're riding a motorcycle. 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.840 a street bike, we call them crotch rockets, or 00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.400 even just a cruiser, you never want polarized 00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:02.340 lenses because when you're coming into a turn 00:52:02.340 --> 00:52:05.840 relatively fast and it has an oil slick in that 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.179 turn or a water slick, you don't see it because 00:52:08.179 --> 00:52:09.940 you don't see the glare because the polarization 00:52:09.940 --> 00:52:12.940 blocks the glare. So the only time I recommend... 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.460 non -polarized lenses are for people that fish 00:52:15.460 --> 00:52:18.159 or on the water. Or, you know, if you just want 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:19.900 driving glasses and you're not an aggressive 00:52:19.900 --> 00:52:23.099 driver, then absolutely polarized is good. So 00:52:23.099 --> 00:52:25.460 I'm trying to develop lenses that have extreme 00:52:25.460 --> 00:52:28.860 optics. They're non -polarized with different 00:52:28.860 --> 00:52:31.840 tents, totally impact resistant, but that are 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.019 very comfortable. And we're trying to work in 00:52:34.019 --> 00:52:38.110 ergonomic design. That if you're playing a sport 00:52:38.110 --> 00:52:39.989 where you bend over or you look to different 00:52:39.989 --> 00:52:42.449 extreme angles, you're not going to see the frame. 00:52:42.550 --> 00:52:44.050 It's not going to interfere with your vision. 00:52:45.130 --> 00:52:47.130 So we try to take all that into consideration. 00:52:47.690 --> 00:52:50.800 And I'm still in the process of... working on 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.860 it in my free time okay because yeah i mean the 00:52:52.860 --> 00:52:54.340 way you describe it that would definitely be 00:52:54.340 --> 00:52:56.619 something that we want because i know just the 00:52:56.619 --> 00:52:59.139 the scratch um i know my wife's not going to 00:52:59.139 --> 00:53:01.239 listen to this so i'm going to say it she bought 00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:03.760 me some oakley's with her discount voucher she 00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.460 gets at her place and uh i took my shirt off 00:53:07.460 --> 00:53:09.820 the damn things fell off my head and then timed 00:53:09.820 --> 00:53:11.539 a little scratch already in them so the scratch 00:53:11.539 --> 00:53:14.920 resistant in in our profession is huge um because 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.219 you know we're not we're not walking around just 00:53:17.219 --> 00:53:19.170 getting them to put put them neatly back in the 00:53:19.170 --> 00:53:21.989 case and, you know, clean the lenses. Sometimes 00:53:21.989 --> 00:53:24.489 we get a few seconds to put them down when we're 00:53:24.489 --> 00:53:26.210 getting toned out for a fire or something like 00:53:26.210 --> 00:53:28.489 that. Yeah, there is technology out there that 00:53:28.489 --> 00:53:30.849 can make the lenses almost impervious to be scratching 00:53:30.849 --> 00:53:33.969 in a plastic type of monomer, not a glass lens. 00:53:34.250 --> 00:53:36.150 Okay. It's just that it's relatively expensive, 00:53:36.210 --> 00:53:40.170 and I want to make these sunglasses cost -affordable. 00:53:40.289 --> 00:53:42.750 I don't want them to be $300, and I want them 00:53:42.750 --> 00:53:44.909 to be at an affordable price for most people. 00:53:45.190 --> 00:53:48.190 Brilliant. Okay, so the other area that you are 00:53:48.190 --> 00:53:52.130 very entrenched in is nutrition. So I'm going 00:53:52.130 --> 00:53:53.750 to start with a very blanket statement, and then 00:53:53.750 --> 00:53:55.449 we can kind of hone in and talk about some of 00:53:55.449 --> 00:53:56.809 the things that we were talking about before 00:53:56.809 --> 00:54:01.349 we started recording. What are some of the biggest 00:54:01.349 --> 00:54:06.809 nutritional errors that we're making as a nation 00:54:06.809 --> 00:54:08.889 that are causing so much disease that we're seeing 00:54:08.889 --> 00:54:12.190 at the moment? It's our diet. The typical American 00:54:12.190 --> 00:54:15.210 diet is pro -inflammatory. It's very high in 00:54:15.210 --> 00:54:18.789 omega -6, very high in sugar, carbohydrates, 00:54:19.210 --> 00:54:23.409 and it's pro -inflammatory. And so that's why 00:54:23.409 --> 00:54:26.010 our country, everybody's obese. They're overweight 00:54:26.010 --> 00:54:28.369 and they have inflammation that's on fire in 00:54:28.369 --> 00:54:31.429 their body. And remember, aging, oxidation, and 00:54:31.429 --> 00:54:34.130 inflammation. So the number one thing, and I 00:54:34.130 --> 00:54:36.329 preach this to my patients, to my radio listeners 00:54:36.329 --> 00:54:38.690 when I lecture, is you've got to adjust your 00:54:38.690 --> 00:54:41.659 diet. I like the paleo diet the best. You know, 00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.300 the paleo diet. You don't have to be on a low 00:54:44.300 --> 00:54:46.260 -carb diet. You don't have to be on the Atkins 00:54:46.260 --> 00:54:48.579 diet. I mean, some of these diets are very bad 00:54:48.579 --> 00:54:50.139 for you because there's no nourishment. There's 00:54:50.139 --> 00:54:52.320 no vitamins. A lot of people lose weight very 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.639 quickly on them, but they become immune compromised 00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:57.519 because there's no nutritional value. There's 00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:00.239 no vitamins and minerals, but they do lose weight, 00:55:00.340 --> 00:55:02.280 and that's important. But you can lose weight 00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:04.900 and be healthy at the same time. Actually, I 00:55:04.900 --> 00:55:06.940 created a diet. You can Google it, the Lange 00:55:06.940 --> 00:55:10.300 diet, Lange diet plan, and it's a modified version 00:55:10.300 --> 00:55:13.409 of the paleo diet. And the paleo diet uses what 00:55:13.409 --> 00:55:16.530 God put on this planet. No processed, no overly 00:55:16.530 --> 00:55:19.190 processed foods. There's no pasta. There's no 00:55:19.190 --> 00:55:23.909 bread. Really, there's no rice. Nothing that 00:55:23.909 --> 00:55:26.730 doesn't grow from the tree or that's natural. 00:55:26.849 --> 00:55:28.909 You can eat beef. You can eat chicken. You can 00:55:28.909 --> 00:55:32.449 eat turkey. You've got to prepare it. Fish. You 00:55:32.449 --> 00:55:35.570 can eat fruits and vegetables. Milk is not really 00:55:35.570 --> 00:55:38.550 in the paleo diet, but that's where I disagree 00:55:38.550 --> 00:55:42.269 with it. We use goat milk and A2 cow's milk. 00:55:42.730 --> 00:55:44.750 in the Lange diet because I think it's actually 00:55:44.750 --> 00:55:47.570 very good for you. So we got to get rid of the 00:55:47.570 --> 00:55:50.429 typical pro -inflammatory diet. I mean, you ask 00:55:50.429 --> 00:55:53.150 people, what do they have for breakfast? And 00:55:53.150 --> 00:55:55.929 most of my patients had a piece of toast, had 00:55:55.929 --> 00:55:58.829 a bagel and a cup of coffee. I had some cereal 00:55:58.829 --> 00:56:01.809 and orange juice, sugar and more sugar, all right? 00:56:02.769 --> 00:56:05.530 You know, I had a donut, you know? I had a Pop 00:56:05.530 --> 00:56:08.269 -Tart. You know, nobody's eating. The most important 00:56:08.269 --> 00:56:10.929 time to eat protein is breakfast and supper, 00:56:11.070 --> 00:56:13.679 all right? And it should be protein and vegetables. 00:56:13.739 --> 00:56:17.320 So an egg omelet, free -range organic eggs, and 00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:20.079 sauteed in coconut oil, and put some kale and 00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.039 spinach and maybe mushrooms and bell peppers, 00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:25.139 sauteed in there, and a big glass of spring water 00:56:25.139 --> 00:56:27.800 or green tea. That should be your breakfast. 00:56:28.099 --> 00:56:30.420 Or you can make a smoothie with a good whey protein 00:56:30.420 --> 00:56:32.840 we'll talk about in a minute. But stay away from 00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:34.340 those carbs. Remember, your blood sugar is as 00:56:34.340 --> 00:56:37.099 high as it gets first thing in the morning. And 00:56:37.099 --> 00:56:39.079 then you're putting sugar on top of it. And you 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:40.739 wonder why your kids aren't making good grades. 00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:46.539 the colorful, sugary cereal that they love, a 00:56:46.539 --> 00:56:50.400 glass of chocolate milk, and then they can't 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.579 pay attention in class because their pancreas 00:56:52.579 --> 00:56:55.460 oversecretes insulin, and then they drop. They 00:56:55.460 --> 00:56:57.440 start to go down, and their mind can't think. 00:56:57.500 --> 00:56:59.760 They can't concentrate. So they get labeled as 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.119 attention deficit disorder, learning disabled, 00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:05.420 hyperactive, and it's the breakfast. Breakfast 00:57:05.420 --> 00:57:09.059 is the most important meal. So start using protein 00:57:09.059 --> 00:57:11.780 and vegetables. I don't even like fruit for breakfast. 00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:15.280 Fruit is for snacks or for lunch. No fruit for 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.960 supper. Supper should be like boiled chicken 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.059 and some boiled broccoli or some tuna fish and 00:57:22.059 --> 00:57:24.860 a tuna salad or something. You know, a salad 00:57:24.860 --> 00:57:28.119 and a lean piece of grass -fed organic beef and 00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:32.449 some vegetables. Fruit is... for lunchtime or 00:57:32.449 --> 00:57:35.170 for snacks. You can have a little slice of pineapple 00:57:35.170 --> 00:57:38.210 and a handful of nuts as a snack in between meals. 00:57:38.389 --> 00:57:40.969 We should eat five meals a day, three regular 00:57:40.969 --> 00:57:43.150 meals and then two small meals or two snacks 00:57:43.150 --> 00:57:45.869 in between. That keeps our metabolism going, 00:57:46.050 --> 00:57:49.090 keeps our blood sugar from yo -yoing up and down, 00:57:49.190 --> 00:57:52.429 up and down. But yeah, the diet is the number 00:57:52.429 --> 00:57:54.530 one thing we need to adjust and we need to go 00:57:54.530 --> 00:57:58.070 to an anti -inflammatory diet. And it's hard 00:57:58.070 --> 00:58:00.429 for people to do because a lot of people aren't 00:58:00.429 --> 00:58:02.750 liking fish and they're not eating the fish that 00:58:02.750 --> 00:58:06.510 helps give them the omega -3 that they so urgently 00:58:06.510 --> 00:58:10.429 need. So taking a good omega -3 fish oil is a 00:58:10.429 --> 00:58:13.019 good way. of even if you're eating that Burger 00:58:13.019 --> 00:58:15.280 King Whopper every now and then, let me remember 00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:17.519 everything in moderation, taking a good omega 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:20.840 -3 fish oil between 1 ,500 and 2 ,000 milligrams 00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:25.340 of a fish oil in the triglyceride form, I created 00:58:25.340 --> 00:58:29.019 one called Fortify Super Omega, will help lower 00:58:29.019 --> 00:58:32.539 inflammation in your body related to that nasty 00:58:32.539 --> 00:58:35.480 diet. So that's a good way, because a lot of 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:37.500 people aren't going to change their diet that 00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:40.699 much, but they can certainly take two fish oils 00:58:40.699 --> 00:58:44.239 a day. Now, when we talk about omega -3, over 00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.780 -the -counter omega -3, people can test their 00:58:46.780 --> 00:58:49.900 omega -3 and find out if it's good or not. Simply 00:58:49.900 --> 00:58:53.099 bite your omega -3 in two, squeeze it in a styrofoam 00:58:53.099 --> 00:58:55.539 cup, and see what happens. If within 10 minutes 00:58:55.539 --> 00:58:57.360 it rots a hole through that cup, you've got to 00:58:57.360 --> 00:58:58.940 think twice about putting it in your system. 00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.920 95 % of all fish oil you buy over -the -counter 00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:04.599 is an ethyl ester molecule. That means it has 00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:07.039 ethanol attached to the backbone. They use that 00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.059 in the distillation and purification process. 00:59:09.739 --> 00:59:11.440 They don't take it out because it's expensive 00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:14.800 to remove. We do a process like that, but then 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:18.039 we remove the ethanol and replace the triglyceride 00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:19.960 backbone the way fish naturally have it in the 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:22.780 sea. It makes it absorb much quicker. It doesn't 00:59:22.780 --> 00:59:25.119 go rancid. You don't get the fishy burp back 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:30.159 either, but it lowers inflammatory markers in 00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.739 your body. So C -reactive protein, tumor necrosis 00:59:33.739 --> 00:59:37.119 factor, arachidonic acid, things like this. go 00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.960 down if you're taking the proper omega -3 fish 00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:42.559 oil. So I always preach that to patients. If 00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:44.179 you're going to take anything, if you only took 00:59:44.179 --> 00:59:46.300 one pill, not a multivitamin, it'd be a good 00:59:46.300 --> 00:59:49.500 omega -3 fish oil. Not krill oil. I think krill 00:59:49.500 --> 00:59:51.840 is a nutritional scam personally because there's 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.639 no omega -3 in krill. The small little pills 00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:56.900 they're giving you in these omega reds has less 00:59:56.900 --> 00:59:59.480 than 100 milligrams of omega -3. So you'd have 00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.119 to take a whole bottle to get enough. So take 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:05.099 a good triglyceride form omega -3 fish oil and 01:00:05.099 --> 01:00:07.780 you'll find, that next time you go to get your 01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:09.599 blood chemistries done at your primary care physician, 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.639 they're starting to normalize. Okay. Yeah, I 01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:17.260 think one of the best catchphrases I guess you 01:00:17.260 --> 01:00:19.880 could say is, I think it just hits it right on 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:21.320 the head about where we're at at the moment, 01:00:21.380 --> 01:00:23.519 is that we're overfed and malnourished. And those 01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:26.239 two don't make sense initially, but as you were 01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:28.519 saying, if you're not having that spectrum of 01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.300 color on your plate, you can be completely stuffed. 01:00:32.219 --> 01:00:34.880 put nothing but bad stuff in your body versus, 01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.860 as you're saying, smoothies and salads and vegetables 01:00:37.860 --> 01:00:40.599 that will still be delicious and fill you up, 01:00:40.699 --> 01:00:42.860 but now you're nourishing instead of harming 01:00:42.860 --> 01:00:46.039 your body. Absolutely. Colorful. especially vegetables. 01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:49.039 So you get kale and spinach, orange, red and 01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.260 yellow bell peppers, put some onions and some 01:00:51.260 --> 01:00:54.880 broccoli and some radishes and, you know, put 01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.400 a little salad dressing on it or gently steam 01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:01.119 it, gently saute it in a wild piece of Alaskan 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:04.820 salmon or some chicken or some beef or pork or 01:01:04.820 --> 01:01:08.000 whatever. That's a meal. You know, you don't 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.480 have to have any. No, I love spaghetti and meatballs. 01:01:10.699 --> 01:01:12.880 Let me tell you. And every now and then you got 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.159 to have some lasagna, some spaghetti. But for 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.579 the most part, you don't because most of these 01:01:17.579 --> 01:01:19.480 are filled with gluten. And a lot of people have 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:21.519 gluten sensitivities. They have celiac disease. 01:01:21.860 --> 01:01:24.039 But the thing I don't like is most of this is 01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:26.460 genetically modified. So there's a lot of pesticide. 01:01:26.539 --> 01:01:28.980 And that's why we see so many people with irritable 01:01:28.980 --> 01:01:32.340 bowel syndrome and acid reflux. It's from the 01:01:32.340 --> 01:01:35.539 foods they're eating, all the gluten, the FODMAP 01:01:35.539 --> 01:01:37.519 vegetables. These are fruits and vegetables that 01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.079 cause fermentation in your gut. A lot of people 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.760 have reactions to these type of fruits and vegetables, 01:01:42.900 --> 01:01:45.579 not everybody. So I can actually listen to my 01:01:45.579 --> 01:01:47.380 patients, and I'm their eye doctor, but I'm also 01:01:47.380 --> 01:01:50.239 their nutritional guru, and I can find out based 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.059 on their history and their diet. you know, what's 01:01:53.059 --> 01:01:55.179 causing their bloating and what's causing their 01:01:55.179 --> 01:01:58.119 lack of energy. And we can simply totally adjust 01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.960 their diet, take the foods out without even doing 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.079 any blood tests and anything to look for sensitivities. 01:02:04.099 --> 01:02:08.159 Just based on the case history and looking at 01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:10.599 their stomach, if it's bloated and tender, we 01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:12.679 can adjust their diet and their lifestyle a little 01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:15.099 bit and help them dramatically. But they go to 01:02:15.099 --> 01:02:16.900 their primary care physician oftentimes and they 01:02:16.900 --> 01:02:21.610 prescribe an antacid. And that's just masking 01:02:21.610 --> 01:02:23.869 the problems. And actually, it's creating problems 01:02:23.869 --> 01:02:26.309 down the road because these antacids actually 01:02:26.309 --> 01:02:29.449 block the absorption of many nutrients, causing 01:02:29.449 --> 01:02:32.429 a malnourished environment. I think, correct 01:02:32.429 --> 01:02:34.530 me if I'm wrong, don't a lot of these antacids 01:02:34.530 --> 01:02:38.690 actually cause more pyruvic acid as well? Right, 01:02:38.750 --> 01:02:40.889 they secrete because it's an antacid, so your 01:02:40.889 --> 01:02:44.139 body overcomes by secreting more acid. And so 01:02:44.139 --> 01:02:46.380 it can actually in the short term, it can be 01:02:46.380 --> 01:02:48.199 beneficial. But if you use them chronically long 01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:50.460 term, it can be a horrendous problem for people. 01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.920 Right. Brilliant. All right. So we were talking 01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:57.400 about dairy and I told you that, you know, my 01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.619 story and I think anyone's listened to all the 01:02:59.619 --> 01:03:03.099 podcasts probably heard this. I had IBS. I had 01:03:03.099 --> 01:03:05.199 stomach issues my whole life. Grew up on a farm, 01:03:05.300 --> 01:03:08.820 drank milk by the pint like it was water. And 01:03:08.820 --> 01:03:11.280 then four years ago, stopped dairy and almost 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.250 overnight. realize that that was the underlying 01:03:14.250 --> 01:03:17.630 cause of a lot of my stomach issues. But we talked 01:03:17.630 --> 01:03:21.050 about A2 milk and I literally, I think it was 01:03:21.050 --> 01:03:23.690 either today or yesterday, saw a commercial for 01:03:23.690 --> 01:03:25.829 the first time, never even heard of it. So could 01:03:25.829 --> 01:03:28.530 you tell us what A2 milk is and why you do use 01:03:28.530 --> 01:03:31.349 that in the goat's milk? Right. I started promoting 01:03:31.349 --> 01:03:34.389 A2 milk about two and a half, three years ago 01:03:34.389 --> 01:03:37.570 now. And now it's becoming very vogue and maybe 01:03:37.570 --> 01:03:41.909 it's due to my radio program. But so Thousands 01:03:41.909 --> 01:03:44.070 of years ago, the typical cow went through a 01:03:44.070 --> 01:03:47.590 genetic mutation. And the beta -casein protein 01:03:47.590 --> 01:03:50.650 actually went through this mutation. And it's 01:03:50.650 --> 01:03:54.510 an A1 beta -casein protein. It's linked to irritable 01:03:54.510 --> 01:03:59.070 bowel, leaky gut, cancer, diabetes, and autism 01:03:59.070 --> 01:04:01.750 in children. And we all know people that have 01:04:01.750 --> 01:04:03.150 all these things. And they've been drinking milk 01:04:03.150 --> 01:04:06.449 all their life. So goat milk has never gone through 01:04:06.449 --> 01:04:09.590 that genetic mutation. It hasn't. beta -casein, 01:04:09.590 --> 01:04:13.170 A2 beta -casein protein does not cause any of 01:04:13.170 --> 01:04:16.309 those things, all right? People don't like the 01:04:16.309 --> 01:04:18.949 wild taste of goat milk for some reason. You 01:04:18.949 --> 01:04:22.550 acquire the taste, all right? But now the A2 01:04:22.550 --> 01:04:25.110 cow company from New Zealand is now in the United 01:04:25.110 --> 01:04:28.250 States, and they actually genetically test every 01:04:28.250 --> 01:04:30.610 cow to make sure that they haven't gone through 01:04:30.610 --> 01:04:33.650 the genetic mutation producing A1 beta -casein. 01:04:34.860 --> 01:04:37.579 So I have many patients, many colleagues, many 01:04:37.579 --> 01:04:39.940 friends that were in the same situation with 01:04:39.940 --> 01:04:42.380 you. And they thought they were lactose intolerant. 01:04:42.380 --> 01:04:45.440 That was the problem. And they can drink A2 cow's 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.739 milk and have no problem at all. So you're getting 01:04:47.739 --> 01:04:49.599 the benefits. And I like the whole milk because 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.920 that fat in that milk is actually good for you. 01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:55.880 This is a grass -fed A2 cow. So try drinking 01:04:55.880 --> 01:04:59.159 A2 cow's. Promised Land is another one you can 01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:03.340 buy that's from A2 cow's or goat's milk. And 01:05:03.340 --> 01:05:06.610 it's great because... Milk has eight grams of 01:05:06.610 --> 01:05:10.909 protein in one cup. So if you're making a protein 01:05:10.909 --> 01:05:12.710 drink, a lot of people are using almond milk 01:05:12.710 --> 01:05:15.269 or coconut milk or soy milk. God forbid. Stay 01:05:15.269 --> 01:05:19.409 away from soy. All right? It screws up your hormones. 01:05:20.650 --> 01:05:24.489 But there's no protein, once again. But milk 01:05:24.489 --> 01:05:26.469 does have protein. Two cups of milk is going 01:05:26.469 --> 01:05:29.829 to have 16 grams of protein. So that and some 01:05:29.829 --> 01:05:32.730 eggs in the morning for breakfast with some vegetables, 01:05:32.809 --> 01:05:35.539 and you're in good shape. So adding to that, 01:05:35.619 --> 01:05:37.880 you were telling me about your recovery shake 01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:41.380 that you developed or come across. Well, interesting. 01:05:41.579 --> 01:05:43.880 During some blood studies that I've done, I've 01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:46.300 done thousands of blood analysis on my patients 01:05:46.300 --> 01:05:48.820 with macular degeneration over the last 15 years. 01:05:49.099 --> 01:05:52.119 And one of the biggest nutritional deficiencies 01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:54.519 macular degeneration patients have, and then 01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:58.300 people over 50 in general, is glutathione. And 01:05:58.300 --> 01:06:01.860 so I tried using L -glutathione, inocerol cysteine, 01:06:01.860 --> 01:06:04.369 different things. To stimulate glutathione, nothing 01:06:04.369 --> 01:06:09.110 really worked. But whey protein does. Whey protein 01:06:09.110 --> 01:06:12.090 concentrate much better than an isolate because 01:06:12.090 --> 01:06:15.170 it has the good fats, which has the immunoglobulins 01:06:15.170 --> 01:06:18.960 in it. And so I actually... was using some whey 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:20.960 proteins that you can only get prescription -wise. 01:06:21.019 --> 01:06:23.340 They were very expensive because the whey proteins 01:06:23.340 --> 01:06:24.900 you buy over the counter are kind of like the 01:06:24.900 --> 01:06:27.219 fish oil you buy over the counter. Most of them 01:06:27.219 --> 01:06:30.599 are coming from China. Not to knock China, but 01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:32.880 I wouldn't consume anything in my body that came 01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:35.840 from China right now. And most of them, the protein 01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:38.300 has been bleached. Most have been filled with 01:06:38.300 --> 01:06:41.610 growth hormones to produce more milk. antibiotics, 01:06:41.610 --> 01:06:44.449 steroids, and then the grass, if they are dewy 01:06:44.449 --> 01:06:47.869 grass, has pesticide on it, but the most of them 01:06:47.869 --> 01:06:50.130 are fed grains. And so the grains are genetically 01:06:50.130 --> 01:06:53.630 modified grains, skewing the whole omega -3 profile 01:06:53.630 --> 01:06:56.889 in the milk. So I started researching because 01:06:56.889 --> 01:06:58.909 I wanted the best of the best for myself, my 01:06:58.909 --> 01:07:02.170 family, and my patients, and came to the conclusion 01:07:02.170 --> 01:07:04.289 New Zealand's the best place to get these cows. 01:07:04.489 --> 01:07:08.349 So we went and started a company, well, years 01:07:08.349 --> 01:07:12.019 ago. four to five vitamins, but we use this to 01:07:12.019 --> 01:07:15.739 be able to buy bulk direct from New Zealand. 01:07:15.900 --> 01:07:19.519 And we're using A2 cows, and it's not necessary 01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:21.760 for whey protein, but we're using, because the 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:23.760 whey protein removes all the casein protein, 01:07:23.940 --> 01:07:26.719 but we're still using that herd. And we're using 01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:30.679 a concentrate, non -bleached whey protein concentrate. 01:07:31.500 --> 01:07:33.900 This is non -denatured because New Zealand does 01:07:33.900 --> 01:07:36.760 not heat the protein to denature it the way America 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:40.059 does over 300 degrees. So the protein molecule 01:07:40.059 --> 01:07:43.460 is much more bioavailable. All the immune globulins 01:07:43.460 --> 01:07:46.219 remain intact. Something called covalent bonded 01:07:46.219 --> 01:07:49.800 cysteine is in it. that converts to glutathione. 01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:52.639 Remember, glutathione is this big deficiency 01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:55.079 in most people over 50 and most patients with 01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:57.719 macular degeneration. So I developed Fortify 01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:00.280 Super Protein. We have it vanilla, chocolate, 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:04.440 and now one called Naked, Fortify Naked Super 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:07.079 Protein. And I think it's the ultimate protein 01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:09.599 in the United States right now. And so what happens 01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:12.880 is I also developed for my patients so they're 01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:15.539 not having the bagel and orange juice for breakfast. 01:08:16.140 --> 01:08:18.619 They're having a protein smoothie. They take 01:08:18.619 --> 01:08:21.159 a scoop of this. They can take some white A2 01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.939 milk or goat's milk, put a little kale, maybe 01:08:23.939 --> 01:08:26.659 a banana and some blueberries, peanut butter 01:08:26.659 --> 01:08:29.279 or almond butter, blend it all together, and 01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:32.460 they got a protein -packed smoothie with antioxidants, 01:08:33.020 --> 01:08:35.779 anti -inflammatory for breakfast. Keeps them 01:08:35.779 --> 01:08:41.109 going until lunch. Post -recovery is something 01:08:41.109 --> 01:08:42.850 that's really great. And I did a lot of research 01:08:42.850 --> 01:08:45.569 on this. You can type in Google the ultimate 01:08:45.569 --> 01:08:47.949 post -recovery workout drink. I come up number 01:08:47.949 --> 01:08:50.569 one in the world. And so after a lot of research, 01:08:50.850 --> 01:08:55.310 it's very simple. It's chocolate milk, watermelon, 01:08:55.510 --> 01:08:59.970 and Fortify Super Protein, one scoop. So one 01:08:59.970 --> 01:09:03.149 scoop of Fortify Super Protein has 21 grams of 01:09:03.149 --> 01:09:07.789 the fastest acting whey protein. Two cups. of 01:09:07.789 --> 01:09:10.869 chocolate milk, not the organic chocolate milk, 01:09:11.050 --> 01:09:16.369 A2 chocolate milk or promised land chocolate 01:09:16.369 --> 01:09:18.850 milk or goat's milk if they make a chocolate 01:09:18.850 --> 01:09:21.470 milk. And that's giving you another 16 grams 01:09:21.470 --> 01:09:24.970 on top of the 21 grams of protein. and then a 01:09:24.970 --> 01:09:27.310 big giant wedge of watermelon. And you blend 01:09:27.310 --> 01:09:29.829 it together. You drink it one minute to 30 minutes 01:09:29.829 --> 01:09:31.710 after working out, whatever your workout is, 01:09:31.789 --> 01:09:34.550 bike ride, a triathlon, swimming, hitting the 01:09:34.550 --> 01:09:36.750 gym, you know, the weights, you know, boxing, 01:09:36.909 --> 01:09:39.810 whatever it is, rowing. And it's the best post 01:09:39.810 --> 01:09:42.069 -recovery workout drink because right after working 01:09:42.069 --> 01:09:45.750 out, you want to have high glycemic index. Chocolate 01:09:45.750 --> 01:09:48.789 is high glycemic index. Watermelon is the highest 01:09:48.789 --> 01:09:52.130 glycemic index fruit known to man. So you have 01:09:52.130 --> 01:09:54.789 that. Watermelon is high in L -citrulline that 01:09:54.789 --> 01:09:57.750 converts to L -arginine, vasodilating the blood 01:09:57.750 --> 01:10:00.430 vessels, bringing the combination of whey protein 01:10:00.430 --> 01:10:03.489 and long -acting casein protein from the good 01:10:03.489 --> 01:10:07.090 milk to your muscles. It's an amazing post -recovery 01:10:07.090 --> 01:10:10.789 workout drink. It works. I've got literally thousands 01:10:10.789 --> 01:10:14.949 of patients taking it now. Bodybuilders, powerlifters, 01:10:15.029 --> 01:10:18.149 professional athletes, all doing amazingly well. 01:10:18.350 --> 01:10:20.770 Okay. I might have to try that because I'm working 01:10:20.770 --> 01:10:25.229 towards... Kind of like the hell week of the 01:10:25.229 --> 01:10:27.609 fire service that we get to volunteer for and 01:10:27.609 --> 01:10:30.050 pay for in the fire school here. So I'm doing 01:10:30.050 --> 01:10:31.649 a lot of training and gear and all that kind 01:10:31.649 --> 01:10:34.029 of thing. So it would be a good time to try that 01:10:34.029 --> 01:10:36.770 and see if I can tolerate the A2 as well. So 01:10:36.770 --> 01:10:38.409 I think I'll give it a shot. Remember, that's 01:10:38.409 --> 01:10:40.890 post -workout. Yes. Pre -workout, you don't use 01:10:40.890 --> 01:10:43.090 chocolate milk. Pre -workout, and you don't use 01:10:43.090 --> 01:10:46.750 watermelon. You lose low glycemic index. So blueberries, 01:10:47.149 --> 01:10:51.630 strawberries, a scoop of the protein. white A2 01:10:51.630 --> 01:10:56.210 cow's milk or goat's milk. And you can put a 01:10:56.210 --> 01:10:59.850 little manuka honey. Manuka honey also gives 01:10:59.850 --> 01:11:02.470 you some prolonged energy, very good for digestion 01:11:02.470 --> 01:11:05.390 as well. Okay, fantastic. Now I'm going to wrap 01:11:05.390 --> 01:11:07.770 up in just a moment, but I want to touch on one 01:11:07.770 --> 01:11:12.689 thing that we just glossed over. So from my understanding, 01:11:12.850 --> 01:11:18.090 soy in the Japanese original form where it's... 01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:23.460 I'm forgetting the word now, but fermented is 01:11:23.460 --> 01:11:26.479 a very good source of protein and in the healthy 01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:29.560 version. But what is it that we do here that 01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.359 makes soy bad and what is it doing to the human 01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:34.619 body? Yeah, the only soy that's any good is organic 01:11:34.619 --> 01:11:37.199 fermented soy. And then again, in moderation, 01:11:37.420 --> 01:11:39.720 I wouldn't do it every day. The fermentation 01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:42.420 process. you know, really releases probiotics 01:11:42.420 --> 01:11:44.739 and enzymes that are incredible for the digestive 01:11:44.739 --> 01:11:47.260 system. So I have a little miso soup and a little 01:11:47.260 --> 01:11:50.239 tempeh, and that's in the Lange diet. That's 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:52.159 once or twice a week on the Lange diet plan. 01:11:52.420 --> 01:11:55.920 The problem with the soy here, 99 .9 % of it 01:11:55.920 --> 01:12:00.439 is all genetically modified. And, you know, that's 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:04.220 a whole nother talk show. And I personally would 01:12:04.220 --> 01:12:07.340 stay away from GMOs, no matter what anybody tells 01:12:07.340 --> 01:12:09.319 you, right? And there's a lot of evidence why. 01:12:10.909 --> 01:12:13.930 So genetically modified products you just don't 01:12:13.930 --> 01:12:18.010 want to ingest. But soy, even edamame, you know, 01:12:18.130 --> 01:12:20.829 most of that's genetically modified. If you can 01:12:20.829 --> 01:12:24.949 find, you know, organically grown soy and they 01:12:24.949 --> 01:12:27.449 can guarantee it's non -GMO, which I think is 01:12:27.449 --> 01:12:30.270 almost impossible these days, then in moderation 01:12:30.270 --> 01:12:34.109 it's okay. But soy is a phytoestrogen, just like 01:12:34.109 --> 01:12:37.899 red wine is. So men out there especially. You 01:12:37.899 --> 01:12:39.079 don't want to eat a lot of soy. You don't want 01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:41.539 to drink a lot of red wine. Women maybe, but 01:12:41.539 --> 01:12:44.140 not men, because it's going to lower your testosterone 01:12:44.140 --> 01:12:48.020 and raise your estrogen levels. And you don't 01:12:48.020 --> 01:12:50.840 want that. Men don't want that. Right. I've seen 01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:52.779 a lot of men doing the wine tasting. That explains 01:12:52.779 --> 01:12:55.859 a lot. Yeah. Remember, everything in moderation. 01:12:56.140 --> 01:12:59.460 A little Pinot Noir. Pinot Noir has the highest 01:12:59.460 --> 01:13:02.140 amount of resveratrol, which is very good for 01:13:02.140 --> 01:13:04.100 the retina, all right? But these are patients 01:13:04.100 --> 01:13:06.760 with macular degeneration that are 85 years old, 01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:10.239 and they're probably not ravaging a 30 -year 01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:11.600 -old woman. They're probably not having a lot 01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:13.979 of sex, and they're certainly not going to have 01:13:13.979 --> 01:13:17.319 any more children. So if you're going to have 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:19.319 something that... Raise your estrogen, lowers 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:20.899 your testosterone. If you don't want to go blind, 01:13:21.020 --> 01:13:23.420 that's a different story. But for most men, virile 01:13:23.420 --> 01:13:26.409 men. You know, a little wine in moderation is 01:13:26.409 --> 01:13:28.229 okay. If you're going to drink it, drink a Pinot 01:13:28.229 --> 01:13:30.670 Noir from the northern region of either New York 01:13:30.670 --> 01:13:33.750 or Oregon. That has the highest amount of resveratrol. 01:13:33.970 --> 01:13:36.590 Remember, everything in moderation. A good beer 01:13:36.590 --> 01:13:39.170 is probably better for you than wine. They add 01:13:39.170 --> 01:13:41.449 a lot of sulfites to the wines these days too. 01:13:41.729 --> 01:13:43.489 If you get them from Europe, it's different. 01:13:43.569 --> 01:13:45.909 They're not adding additional sulfites. Sulfites 01:13:45.909 --> 01:13:48.109 occur naturally in the wine. We don't have to 01:13:48.109 --> 01:13:50.890 add more. The FDA makes us add way too much. 01:13:50.989 --> 01:13:52.909 That's one reason you get headaches. You know, 01:13:52.949 --> 01:13:55.390 you have... five or six glasses of wine, and 01:13:55.390 --> 01:13:57.310 you're feeling no pain, and then you wake up 01:13:57.310 --> 01:13:58.289 in the morning, you have one of the worst headaches. 01:13:58.770 --> 01:14:01.590 It's the sulfites preserving your brain. Ah, 01:14:01.590 --> 01:14:03.869 yeah. See, I get migraines, so that was one of 01:14:03.869 --> 01:14:07.510 my triggers. And when I go home in Portugal and 01:14:07.510 --> 01:14:10.409 France, where my mom and dad live, I never have 01:14:10.409 --> 01:14:12.350 an issue with that at all. But here, I mean, 01:14:12.369 --> 01:14:14.289 there's certain wines now, it's obviously getting 01:14:14.289 --> 01:14:16.810 more progressive in the stores, but yeah. I find 01:14:16.810 --> 01:14:20.270 a good organic wine that says no added sulfites 01:14:20.270 --> 01:14:24.199 on it. Very difficult to find. All right. So 01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:25.939 I'm going to wrap up with some questions. You've 01:14:25.939 --> 01:14:27.859 been very, very generous with your time. And 01:14:27.859 --> 01:14:30.859 we need to get out there and do some preparations 01:14:30.859 --> 01:14:36.640 for this hurricane. So very first question, is 01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:38.739 there a book that you recommend to people? It 01:14:38.739 --> 01:14:40.100 can be about this or it can be about something 01:14:40.100 --> 01:14:43.979 completely different or a fiction. Wow. A book. 01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:46.239 Somebody asked me that and I was being interviewed 01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.680 before. I just, you know, I don't have a lot 01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:52.449 of time to read. I haven't read a lot of books. 01:14:52.510 --> 01:14:54.170 I mean, because I've been working literally since, 01:14:54.289 --> 01:14:56.829 you know, college started. And since I work, 01:14:56.909 --> 01:15:02.170 I'm 18, 19 hours a day, sleep deprived. I read 01:15:02.170 --> 01:15:05.949 a lot of journals, right, that are directly related 01:15:05.949 --> 01:15:10.050 to the businesses that I'm in. I think people 01:15:10.050 --> 01:15:12.770 that have the time and the ability to sit down 01:15:12.770 --> 01:15:15.789 and read a book by candlelight, very relaxing. 01:15:16.090 --> 01:15:19.180 You know, if you want to fall asleep. War and 01:15:19.180 --> 01:15:22.180 Peace, right? Sit down and try to read War and 01:15:22.180 --> 01:15:25.000 Peace, Candlelight. I guarantee you'll get tired 01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.260 and you'll fall asleep. Yeah, or any college 01:15:27.260 --> 01:15:30.680 textbook. All right, so what about a movie and 01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:39.880 or documentary? Wow. My favorite movie. I tell 01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:41.560 you, one of my favorite movies that was a long 01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.470 time ago was The Champ. You know, and the reason 01:15:45.470 --> 01:15:48.470 for that is, you know, I people say I'm not that 01:15:48.470 --> 01:15:52.029 sensitive, but I actually nobody knows this, 01:15:52.069 --> 01:15:54.149 but I actually cried in that movie. It's the 01:15:54.149 --> 01:15:57.590 only movie ever in my life that I shed a few 01:15:57.590 --> 01:16:00.010 tears. And the champ was a long time ago. You 01:16:00.010 --> 01:16:02.869 can probably rent it and look at it, but it really. 01:16:03.310 --> 01:16:05.470 got to my sensitive side it's the only movie 01:16:05.470 --> 01:16:08.829 ever oh really um i like gladiator too gladiator 01:16:08.829 --> 01:16:11.229 is a great movie that was yeah i cry like a little 01:16:11.229 --> 01:16:13.149 girl in a lot of movies so i guess i don't have 01:16:13.149 --> 01:16:16.149 the same problem um all right so what do you 01:16:16.149 --> 01:16:18.569 do i mean like you said it yourself you you work 01:16:18.569 --> 01:16:21.289 very hard you pour yourself into not just this 01:16:21.289 --> 01:16:23.529 business but multiple businesses so what do you 01:16:23.529 --> 01:16:27.810 do to decompress well i try to i try to get to 01:16:27.810 --> 01:16:31.039 the gym every day if I can, every night at least. 01:16:31.140 --> 01:16:33.159 And usually it's working out later in the evening 01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:35.699 or early, early in the morning. And then try 01:16:35.699 --> 01:16:38.920 to get some cardiovascular exercise, usually 01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:43.199 on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. I try 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:48.479 to bike 50 miles on each of those days or row. 01:16:48.579 --> 01:16:50.939 So I'm either biking, doing some form of, you 01:16:50.939 --> 01:16:53.079 know, fairly extreme cardiovascular exercise, 01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:57.100 hit the gym. And then every other weekend I'm 01:16:57.100 --> 01:17:02.109 racing cars now. So I'm actually SCCA, full competition 01:17:02.109 --> 01:17:07.810 license. I'm driving a 2017 Viper ACR Extreme 01:17:07.810 --> 01:17:10.590 Voodoo 2. There's only 31 of them in the world. 01:17:10.850 --> 01:17:14.229 I put Michelin slicks and some headers and did 01:17:14.229 --> 01:17:17.149 a little engine work. And, you know, racing in 01:17:17.149 --> 01:17:19.909 the advanced class and doing quite well. Just 01:17:19.909 --> 01:17:23.590 won the class at Sebring last Saturday and heading 01:17:23.590 --> 01:17:28.579 to New Orleans to race. I got to tell you. There 01:17:28.579 --> 01:17:32.279 is one thing about releasing adrenaline. When 01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:34.220 you release adrenaline, you also release beta 01:17:34.220 --> 01:17:36.640 endorphins. Beta endorphins are natural pain 01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:40.920 relievers, natural antidepressants. And I tell 01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:43.600 you, I have a need for speed. That's why I did 01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:47.279 the whole motocross thing. And until racing cars, 01:17:47.579 --> 01:17:51.399 I couldn't find a sport that really released 01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:53.819 the adrenaline, made me feel young, and made 01:17:53.819 --> 01:17:56.119 me feel good. I mean, golf doesn't do it for 01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:58.810 me. Fishing doesn't do it for me. Mountain biking 01:17:58.810 --> 01:18:01.390 does a little bit. Road biking definitely doesn't 01:18:01.390 --> 01:18:03.510 do it for me. Triathlons don't do it for me. 01:18:03.750 --> 01:18:06.649 But I noticed when I was driving my car on the 01:18:06.649 --> 01:18:09.449 streets too fast on the interstate, on the verge 01:18:09.449 --> 01:18:11.050 when you're waiting for the blue lights behind 01:18:11.050 --> 01:18:14.529 you, that did it. And so you can't really do 01:18:14.529 --> 01:18:16.930 that on the streets. So I went to one of the 01:18:16.930 --> 01:18:20.350 track days at Sebring and got really interested 01:18:20.350 --> 01:18:22.970 into it. And then I took the Bondurant race school 01:18:22.970 --> 01:18:26.409 courses over in Arizona and did Formula One race 01:18:26.409 --> 01:18:29.520 cars. And I got addicted to it about four or 01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:33.199 five months ago. And so that need for speed's 01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:35.939 coming out. But, I mean, after I'm in a race, 01:18:35.979 --> 01:18:38.739 I get out of the car. I don't feel 55. I don't 01:18:38.739 --> 01:18:41.119 have knee aches and neck pains. I literally feel 01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:44.680 21, 22 years of age. And I think everybody needs 01:18:44.680 --> 01:18:48.420 to find a way to help release their beta endorphins. 01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:50.720 You know, it's like when you're running and you 01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:53.260 hit that wall, okay? When you hit that wall and 01:18:53.260 --> 01:18:55.340 you run a little bit more, then boom, you start 01:18:55.340 --> 01:18:58.149 feeling good again. Most people don't get to 01:18:58.149 --> 01:19:00.970 the wall, but people that do marathons, they 01:19:00.970 --> 01:19:03.770 understand this, and triathletes and Ironman 01:19:03.770 --> 01:19:06.710 competitors, because that's the release of beta 01:19:06.710 --> 01:19:08.810 endorphins, and everybody needs to figure out 01:19:08.810 --> 01:19:11.670 a way, especially as you get older, how can they 01:19:11.670 --> 01:19:14.590 release the beta endorphins safely? Yeah. Well, 01:19:14.649 --> 01:19:17.670 we've narrowed our field so much as far as safety 01:19:17.670 --> 01:19:19.989 as well. We're in this comfortable little box, 01:19:20.069 --> 01:19:21.710 and I think a lot of people that I've interviewed 01:19:21.710 --> 01:19:25.409 that have broken out of that have had, you know, 01:19:25.689 --> 01:19:28.470 success and happiness and all these other areas 01:19:28.470 --> 01:19:31.390 because you think about original man we weren't 01:19:31.390 --> 01:19:34.949 sitting in a climate control box watching electrical 01:19:34.949 --> 01:19:37.409 devices all day we were out you know running 01:19:37.409 --> 01:19:39.350 for our lives and hunting and fishing and swimming 01:19:39.350 --> 01:19:41.329 and running and all these other things you're 01:19:41.329 --> 01:19:43.630 enduring storms yeah so i think that i mean it 01:19:43.630 --> 01:19:45.770 makes perfect sense martial arts is mine and 01:19:45.770 --> 01:19:47.409 having someone trying to knock me out is kind 01:19:47.409 --> 01:19:50.789 of adrenaline rush too yeah absolutely so all 01:19:50.789 --> 01:19:52.970 right so my next question is kind of a new one 01:19:52.970 --> 01:19:56.979 i started asking um Can you think of a person 01:19:56.979 --> 01:19:59.880 who would be an invaluable guest on this podcast 01:19:59.880 --> 01:20:09.000 to talk to first responders of the world? I tell 01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:13.439 you, if my dad wasn't 89 years old, my dad would 01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:16.380 have been great. He's been a guest on my radio 01:20:16.380 --> 01:20:18.760 show many times. I got to tell you, my success 01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:22.159 is directly related to my dad. He taught me the... 01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:26.560 value of hard work all right um you know you 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:28.659 don't get anything for free no matter what you 01:20:28.659 --> 01:20:30.960 do he didn't push me into medicine you know he 01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:34.079 said whatever you do you know do the best job 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:36.739 if you dig in a ditch be the best ditch digger 01:20:36.739 --> 01:20:39.420 and you're going to own the company and i think 01:20:39.420 --> 01:20:43.119 my dad instilled moral values in me and and work 01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:46.760 ethics that quite frankly i don't see these days 01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:50.850 in employees So, yeah, but he's living in Mississippi, 01:20:51.109 --> 01:20:53.250 half in New Orleans. It'd be difficult to get 01:20:53.250 --> 01:20:55.569 him here. But if I had to pick somebody, it'd 01:20:55.569 --> 01:21:00.109 be, you know, my mentor is my dad. And he's probably 01:21:00.109 --> 01:21:02.890 one of the reasons I'm where I'm at today is 01:21:02.890 --> 01:21:05.010 because of the values that he instilled in me. 01:21:05.310 --> 01:21:07.770 Brilliant. OK, I love that answer. All right. 01:21:07.770 --> 01:21:10.630 So to wrap it up then. So people listening now, 01:21:10.829 --> 01:21:13.029 where can they find you? Where can they find 01:21:13.029 --> 01:21:15.090 the Fortify products? Everything we talked about 01:21:15.090 --> 01:21:17.960 today. Right, so the Lang Eye Institute is based 01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:21.579 in the center of Florida in the villages. You 01:21:21.579 --> 01:21:25.000 can learn a lot more about what we do at drmichaellang 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:28.880 .com. Don't spell doctor, just dr, drmichaellang 01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:32.140 .com. That actually will link up to a section 01:21:32.140 --> 01:21:34.319 of social media. You can follow me on Twitter. 01:21:34.890 --> 01:21:39.710 Facebook, Pinterest, Google +, LinkedIn, Instagram 01:21:39.710 --> 01:21:43.189 from drmichaellang .com. And that will also link 01:21:43.189 --> 01:21:46.270 you up to my other companies, Fortify Vitamins, 01:21:46.289 --> 01:21:50.189 which is fortify .com, F -O -R -T -I -F -E -Y 01:21:50.189 --> 01:21:52.850 -E. You can learn about the research behind the 01:21:52.850 --> 01:21:55.569 products that we've developed, a whole line of 01:21:55.569 --> 01:21:57.789 whole body supplements, not just eye vitamins. 01:21:58.789 --> 01:22:01.029 Paleo Simplified is a company of mine where we 01:22:01.029 --> 01:22:05.229 make paleo bars, paleo granola. from the website, 01:22:05.430 --> 01:22:08.329 Blue Light Defense, and a few other companies, 01:22:08.350 --> 01:22:11.649 all linked from drmichaellang .com. So pretty 01:22:11.649 --> 01:22:14.210 much that website will also give you some videos 01:22:14.210 --> 01:22:18.090 of me racing, or you can go to two YouTube channels, 01:22:18.210 --> 01:22:20.430 which I think are also on that website, either 01:22:20.430 --> 01:22:23.500 Dr. Michael Lang YouTube or... ocular health 01:22:23.500 --> 01:22:26.359 channel youtube and that got a lot of videos 01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:30.960 of my radio shows um and also me recumbent biking 01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:34.579 or car racing even some motocross videos okay 01:22:34.579 --> 01:22:37.100 what's the radio show called uh ask the doctor 01:22:37.100 --> 01:22:39.960 i've been hosting ask the doctor uh since march 01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:44.460 of 1993 non -stop wow a little bit longer than 01:22:44.460 --> 01:22:47.819 me i'm hitting 10 months right now all right 01:22:47.819 --> 01:22:50.380 well thank you so much i think we've really delved 01:22:50.380 --> 01:22:53.060 into some things that And I love podcasts and 01:22:53.060 --> 01:22:55.699 I delve into a lot of fitness and health. We 01:22:55.699 --> 01:22:57.560 just don't discuss a lot of things that we talked 01:22:57.560 --> 01:22:59.220 about today. I haven't heard anything talked 01:22:59.220 --> 01:23:01.920 about with the A2 milk and, you know, many of 01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:04.359 the areas. So it's definitely going to be another 01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:06.979 goldmine, I think, for people. So I really appreciate 01:23:06.979 --> 01:23:08.680 you giving me the time, especially at the end 01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:10.199 of your workday here. We're sitting here and 01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:12.739 it's dark outside now. So thank you so much. 01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.680 Fantastic. I enjoyed it. Anytime you want to 01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:17.859 do it again, just let me know. I'll always be 01:23:17.859 --> 01:23:19.899 available for you. Brilliant. Well, thank you. 01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:21.899 Thank you.