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Now, what I really admire about Alan 00:02:11.969 --> 00:02:14.770 is the courage of his voice. And what I mean 00:02:14.770 --> 00:02:17.469 is during this conflict, especially in Gaza. 00:02:18.409 --> 00:02:20.150 There have been very few people speaking out 00:02:20.150 --> 00:02:22.430 against it, which from a human point of view, 00:02:22.469 --> 00:02:25.490 I think is horrendous. So we are going to revisit 00:02:25.490 --> 00:02:29.030 that situation. He was actually in the West Bank 00:02:29.030 --> 00:02:31.129 and witnessed many things with his own eyes. 00:02:31.409 --> 00:02:33.969 We're going to talk about immigration and ICE, 00:02:34.210 --> 00:02:37.629 the conflict with Iran and so many other areas. 00:02:37.909 --> 00:02:40.210 So before we get to this incredible conversation, 00:02:40.490 --> 00:02:42.969 as I say every week, please just take a moment. 00:02:43.250 --> 00:02:46.310 Go to whichever app you listen to this on. 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I actually 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:50.319 didn't look up the episode number, so I'll put 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.199 that on the show notes. But I want to start by 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:54.919 welcoming you back onto the Behind the Shield 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:57.659 podcast today. Thanks so much, man. Happy to 00:03:57.659 --> 00:04:00.479 be here. So where on planet Earth are we finding 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:05.099 you today? I actually am in Poland right now. 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:09.699 Brilliant. So, well, let's start with... Yeah, 00:04:09.699 --> 00:04:11.680 I think you and I spoke about a year ago, if 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.379 I've got that right now, maybe just a little 00:04:13.379 --> 00:04:17.180 bit less. So I'm going to put it to you first. 00:04:17.259 --> 00:04:20.720 Talk to me about the things that you've seen 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.759 over the last 12 months. And let's start highlighting 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.779 some of the things, the actionable things that 00:04:27.779 --> 00:04:30.639 we can do to start righting some of these wrongs 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:35.300 collectively. So I think actually we spoke before 00:04:35.300 --> 00:04:41.980 I went to the West Bank. And let me just say, 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:47.860 it wasn't just an eye -opener, but it was beyond 00:04:47.860 --> 00:04:50.959 that. Honestly, I was expecting it to be bad. 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.959 I didn't expect it to be as bad as it was. And 00:04:53.959 --> 00:05:02.160 it just kind of blew my mind. So initially, I 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:04.920 went there. I got on with this company. I volunteered. 00:05:05.629 --> 00:05:07.829 To go provide security for surgeons that were 00:05:07.829 --> 00:05:10.970 going to Gaza. And I was staging out of the West 00:05:10.970 --> 00:05:15.129 Bank. So I was there for about two months. And 00:05:15.129 --> 00:05:19.850 I never got to go to Gaza. So I stayed in the 00:05:19.850 --> 00:05:23.470 West Bank the whole time. Primarily in Hebron. 00:05:24.069 --> 00:05:28.949 So I spent some time in Bethlehem. But most of 00:05:28.949 --> 00:05:32.009 it was in Hebron, the largest city that they 00:05:32.009 --> 00:05:35.660 have down there. Pretty conservative town. I 00:05:35.660 --> 00:05:38.000 didn't know what to expect. The last time I was 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.379 in the Middle East, well, the last time I was 00:05:41.379 --> 00:05:44.459 in the Middle East was in Iraq. So I didn't know 00:05:44.459 --> 00:05:47.060 what to expect and how I was going to be received. 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.879 And I think that was actually part of it. With 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:53.420 everything that I've heard, you know, you hear 00:05:53.420 --> 00:05:55.680 a lot of conflicting things, especially in the 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:59.300 beginning of it. And so I was honestly, I was 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:02.079 curious to see how it was going to happen. And 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:06.670 so I went through Jordan. And then I went and 00:06:06.670 --> 00:06:11.129 crossed the border into the West Bank. And man, 00:06:11.689 --> 00:06:18.889 it was it was an eye opener. The people were 00:06:18.889 --> 00:06:22.670 more than so much more welcoming than I ever 00:06:22.670 --> 00:06:24.889 expected. I mean, they're truly like the most 00:06:24.889 --> 00:06:27.990 the nicest people I ever met in my life. The 00:06:27.990 --> 00:06:30.129 most well, I never heard the word welcome more 00:06:30.129 --> 00:06:35.529 in my life than I did when I was there. I never 00:06:35.529 --> 00:06:38.769 drank more coffee in my life than I did when 00:06:38.769 --> 00:06:41.170 I was there either. Just because everywhere I 00:06:41.170 --> 00:06:46.870 went, I mean, I don't really blend. So if I walk 00:06:46.870 --> 00:06:48.569 by and they're like, they knew I was a foreigner. 00:06:48.649 --> 00:06:52.410 They're like, come down, come, come. And so I 00:06:52.410 --> 00:06:54.629 tried to initially try like, oh, no, thank you. 00:06:54.689 --> 00:06:57.730 I appreciate it. I got to get going. But no, 00:06:57.810 --> 00:07:00.649 no, no. That's it. Come. Okay. All right. Never 00:07:00.649 --> 00:07:07.060 mind. So I sat down with them. They spoke, most 00:07:07.060 --> 00:07:09.980 of them spoke pretty good English, at least enough 00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:14.439 to conversate. And they just honestly just wanted 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:16.579 to know what I was doing there and, you know, 00:07:16.579 --> 00:07:19.459 and wanted to see them. You know, of course, 00:07:19.500 --> 00:07:21.759 the two most common questions is if you're married, 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:25.560 do you have kids? Half of them try to hook me 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.660 up with someone in their family. But truly just 00:07:29.660 --> 00:07:35.899 phenomenal, gentle, and nice. Human beings. I 00:07:35.899 --> 00:07:39.939 mean, it's welcoming. Honestly, I can't stress 00:07:39.939 --> 00:07:45.040 that word enough. Now, on the flip side of that, 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.980 in Hebron, there's massive settlements that are 00:07:47.980 --> 00:07:50.420 there. And the only time that I actually felt 00:07:50.420 --> 00:07:52.439 threatened was when I had guns pointed at me 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:56.980 by the Israelis. And that happened nine times 00:07:56.980 --> 00:08:01.839 in two months. Sometimes at checkpoints, sometimes 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:06.029 just standing there. I think you've seen it on 00:08:06.029 --> 00:08:07.569 my profile. I got one picture. I'm literally 00:08:07.569 --> 00:08:09.230 just standing there with my hands crossed. And 00:08:09.230 --> 00:08:12.629 I was just looking. And this guy literally had 00:08:12.629 --> 00:08:16.170 his gun on me for about six or seven minutes. 00:08:16.329 --> 00:08:18.529 And I wanted to make sure that was the case. 00:08:18.610 --> 00:08:22.089 So I actually got up and walked a little bit 00:08:22.089 --> 00:08:25.490 just to see if it was like maybe he just doesn't 00:08:25.490 --> 00:08:28.389 know how to handle a weapon. And he just followed 00:08:28.389 --> 00:08:33.690 me, keeping the muzzle pointed at me. So it was 00:08:33.690 --> 00:08:36.259 intentional. And it was meant to intimidate, 00:08:36.259 --> 00:08:39.799 but, you know, I'm from Texas, dude. I mean, 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.980 getting a gun pointed at me happens like every 00:08:41.980 --> 00:08:45.240 week on I -35 during rush hour traffic. So there 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.960 really wasn't. I'm like, it's my first time, 00:08:47.980 --> 00:08:51.100 man. I'm probably going to be my last. So it 00:08:51.100 --> 00:08:55.539 was, you know, walking the apartheid wall and 00:08:55.539 --> 00:09:00.539 seeing everything. Man, there was a lot of things 00:09:00.539 --> 00:09:03.440 that I started kind of thinking about. And one 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.799 of the things is, I don't even think that a lot 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.539 of the Israeli citizens have an idea of who they 00:09:11.539 --> 00:09:17.059 hate. And I think that that's there more for 00:09:17.059 --> 00:09:20.360 a psychological reason, so that people won't 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.820 ever get into a conversation. You know what I 00:09:22.820 --> 00:09:27.580 mean? I truly believe that, that it's one of 00:09:27.580 --> 00:09:29.240 the big parts of it, just so they never get to 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:31.799 know each other, so they can keep up this. this 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:34.019 facade of uh you know they hate us from from 00:09:34.019 --> 00:09:37.419 the get -go and they they study that and in their 00:09:37.419 --> 00:09:39.559 schools and all their books have you know anti 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:44.200 -jewish um anti -israeli and i went to the schools 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:47.360 i went to i went through the books from like 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:51.259 third grade to like eighth grade um there's nothing 00:09:51.259 --> 00:09:53.600 in there and i don't know why i was thinking 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.240 there was but you know just to say i did i did 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:02.789 um so Man, it was, you know, seeing the settlements 00:10:02.789 --> 00:10:13.250 and how the settlers were. It's truly like dehumanizing 00:10:13.250 --> 00:10:16.990 on a daily basis. Just to get to the Ibrahimi 00:10:16.990 --> 00:10:18.789 Mosque, you know, for them to make prayer, they 00:10:18.789 --> 00:10:21.230 got to go through. I went through three checkpoints 00:10:21.230 --> 00:10:25.169 just to get through to that. They just do random 00:10:25.169 --> 00:10:28.389 questions. Pat you down and makes you go through 00:10:28.389 --> 00:10:30.009 like a metal detector and all that. And they 00:10:30.009 --> 00:10:34.730 just, it truly is dehumanizing. One of the things 00:10:34.730 --> 00:10:38.789 I saw was, and I got this on video as well. There 00:10:38.789 --> 00:10:41.830 was a Muslim woman and her husband was on the 00:10:41.830 --> 00:10:45.470 other side. And I'm sure, you know, by now, like 00:10:45.470 --> 00:10:51.009 when, especially wearing the hijab, they stopped 00:10:51.009 --> 00:10:53.250 her, they put her, had her sit down. And there 00:10:53.250 --> 00:10:56.169 was two men that were literally surrounding her. 00:10:56.899 --> 00:10:58.899 And her husband, again, is on the other side 00:10:58.899 --> 00:11:04.320 and they're trying to strip search her. So they 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.200 grab their hijab and try to take it off. And 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:07.759 she's like fighting them off and saying like, 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:10.519 no, no, no. And the husband's like right there, 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:13.659 like rightfully so, like freaking out, you know, 00:11:13.659 --> 00:11:14.779 going like, what are you doing? What are you 00:11:14.779 --> 00:11:17.299 doing? What are you doing? I mean, if anyone 00:11:17.299 --> 00:11:19.039 could put themselves in that situation, imagine 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:21.980 how they would react. You know what I mean? They're 00:11:21.980 --> 00:11:24.909 doing that to try to get them to react. Right. 00:11:25.029 --> 00:11:27.190 And he knows this. But at the same time, it's 00:11:27.190 --> 00:11:30.129 very emotional because it's his wife. You know 00:11:30.129 --> 00:11:33.049 what I mean? I mean, I didn't know the woman. 00:11:33.070 --> 00:11:34.830 I didn't know the guy. I was just recording. 00:11:35.990 --> 00:11:39.250 But I felt enraged. You know what I mean? I can 00:11:39.250 --> 00:11:44.090 I can. If I put myself in that situation, I don't 00:11:44.090 --> 00:11:47.389 know what I would have done. You know, he handled 00:11:47.389 --> 00:11:50.269 a lot better than I did. Tell you that. But even 00:11:50.269 --> 00:11:52.889 then. You know, the guys were just coming over 00:11:52.889 --> 00:11:54.629 and yelling and pointing their weapons at them 00:11:54.629 --> 00:11:57.889 and threatening them through one of the flashbangs 00:11:57.889 --> 00:12:01.809 to try to get them to walk away. It was just 00:12:01.809 --> 00:12:06.769 it's hateful. It truly is. And and imagine. And 00:12:06.769 --> 00:12:10.629 so I was there for two months. So imagine them 00:12:10.629 --> 00:12:12.470 going through a lifetime of that. You know what 00:12:12.470 --> 00:12:16.509 I mean? And that's that's truly what what it 00:12:16.509 --> 00:12:21.100 was was unbelievable was like how. They can still 00:12:21.100 --> 00:12:28.259 be as friendly as they were to me. And. And so 00:12:28.259 --> 00:12:31.539 while they're actually dealing with this subjugation, 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:34.820 you know, this apartheid, knowing that they can't 00:12:34.820 --> 00:12:37.179 travel, they have to be subjected to these checkpoints. 00:12:37.779 --> 00:12:39.419 They're constantly with their boot on their neck. 00:12:39.500 --> 00:12:43.200 You know what I mean? I don't know. And trying 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:44.879 to explain this, especially to like Americans, 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:46.840 like, you know, and I just try to use it like 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.529 an X or X or Y, you know, if. If X was here and 00:12:50.529 --> 00:12:54.129 they were occupying your home, how would Y react? 00:12:54.389 --> 00:12:56.289 You know what I mean? Try to put in those terms. 00:12:57.429 --> 00:12:59.309 Because for some reason, when it comes to Israel, 00:12:59.490 --> 00:13:02.210 no one actually was like, well, they have their 00:13:02.210 --> 00:13:04.990 reasons. Well, actually, no, they don't. It's 00:13:04.990 --> 00:13:07.049 literally just, it's an occupation, bottom line. 00:13:07.669 --> 00:13:12.230 And the way they're reacting, again, is all in 00:13:12.230 --> 00:13:16.509 response to things. You know what I mean? Yeah. 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:20.919 Sorry, wrong tangent on that. No, no, no. Well, 00:13:20.980 --> 00:13:24.139 it's interesting because I've had several different 00:13:24.139 --> 00:13:27.360 perspectives. I had a firefighter on, Brian. 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:29.080 I'm blanking on his last name at the moment. 00:13:29.179 --> 00:13:32.360 But he is married to a Palestinian -American 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.519 woman, and they went back to the West Bank. And 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.159 he was an eyewitness to these forced occupations. 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:42.440 And I've had Dr. Thayer Ahmad on, I think, three 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:45.210 times now. And he was over there doing humanitarian 00:13:45.210 --> 00:13:47.730 work in Gaza in some of these hospitals that 00:13:47.730 --> 00:13:52.970 no longer exist now. And, you know, so you get 00:13:52.970 --> 00:13:57.149 these boots on the ground, you know, eyewitness 00:13:57.149 --> 00:14:01.070 accounts rather than Fox or CNN or whatever fucking 00:14:01.070 --> 00:14:03.129 mouthpiece that people, you know, believe like 00:14:03.129 --> 00:14:05.220 the gospel. And so it's so important to hear 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:07.480 this. You know, we've got a Green Beret who fought 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.299 for his country, who'd fought in the Middle East, 00:14:09.379 --> 00:14:11.980 who's now boots on the ground, didn't have any 00:14:11.980 --> 00:14:15.159 initial allegiance to one specific religion or 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:17.840 nation. And you're just literally saying this 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:22.759 is how it is. Yeah, I caught a couple of those 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:27.299 episodes, man. They were great. And again, being 00:14:27.299 --> 00:14:30.019 there and again, Hebron being the most conservative 00:14:30.019 --> 00:14:35.039 places, here was the crazy part. I was there 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:43.779 doing aid, and I rented an apartment in the building, 00:14:43.860 --> 00:14:48.220 and during aid, there was one of my neighbors, 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:51.279 and she had a seven -year -old daughter came 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:54.820 up and had a plate of fruit and some snacks on 00:14:54.820 --> 00:14:58.960 there and some sweets, and just, here you go. 00:14:59.740 --> 00:15:02.399 She didn't speak English, and my Arabic is atrocious. 00:15:05.139 --> 00:15:09.279 I had dinner with somebody from that apartment 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.539 building at least once or twice a week. On average, 00:15:13.580 --> 00:15:17.159 twice a week, honestly. They would just invite 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:20.039 me to their home, cook me dinner, treat me like 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:23.779 family. And they don't know who I am. You know 00:15:23.779 --> 00:15:25.879 what I mean? It's just, that's how they are. 00:15:26.019 --> 00:15:27.700 One of the craziest things I noticed as well 00:15:27.700 --> 00:15:30.200 is that there's no homelessness. There aren't 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.019 any homeless people. It's like, you know, why? 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:34.600 If you don't have a place, we'll find a place 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:36.360 for you. And that's it. You know, it's very simple. 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:40.299 I remember in Bethlehem, I was actually telling 00:15:40.299 --> 00:15:43.419 the story to a friend of mine today. There was 00:15:43.419 --> 00:15:47.279 like a little shawarma stand. And I remember 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.659 going there and there was clearly like this. 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.759 He was probably like in his late teens, early 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.860 20s. He had some type of mental disability. And 00:15:56.860 --> 00:16:02.519 he was kind of dirty and disheveled. i was like 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.139 hey you know let me let me buy him you know like 00:16:06.139 --> 00:16:10.419 sandwich and he's like no no no we got it it's 00:16:10.419 --> 00:16:13.240 no problem we got it every time you know and 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.980 in that solidarity that that kind of community 00:16:15.980 --> 00:16:22.259 type feel is um we have this impression that 00:16:22.259 --> 00:16:24.600 you know these third world countries and and 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.519 these places that you know where more poor people 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.659 live that they're there to take advantage of 00:16:30.659 --> 00:16:32.360 you, right? They're going to steal your shoes 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.259 while you're still wearing them. And it's always 00:16:36.259 --> 00:16:38.980 just the opposite. You know what I mean? It's 00:16:38.980 --> 00:16:41.419 the people that have a lot of money that try 00:16:41.419 --> 00:16:44.740 to steal your funds from your bank account, you 00:16:44.740 --> 00:16:46.860 know? And, you know, the politicians that try 00:16:46.860 --> 00:16:49.879 to, you know, swindle you to believe in something 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.720 so they can spend their tax monies so they can 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.139 benefit themselves. But it's just the opposite. 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:56.879 It's just we've been led to believe that for 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:00.360 so long. It's really interesting. I actually 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:02.960 haven't shared it yet, but I saw a thing on Finland 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:05.819 and Finland has no homelessness and Japan has 00:17:05.819 --> 00:17:07.420 no homelessness because they were like, well, 00:17:07.539 --> 00:17:10.200 let's give them housing and then work on mental 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:12.579 health. And I think once they, if I remember 00:17:12.579 --> 00:17:14.720 right, I just kind of scanned it. Once they initiated 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.119 this program, like almost immediately, 80 % of 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:21.380 the people, you know, went back to work, you 00:17:21.380 --> 00:17:23.539 know, actually got back on their feet. And then 00:17:23.539 --> 00:17:26.460 you look at the most affluent country. on the 00:17:26.460 --> 00:17:28.640 planet and the homelessness that we have and 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:30.579 obviously my community listening to this i mean 00:17:30.579 --> 00:17:32.140 we're the ones that engage with these men and 00:17:32.140 --> 00:17:34.039 women that are so desperate whether it's addiction 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:36.359 or mental health you know i think i think 10 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:38.700 of our homeless of veterans have i got that right 00:17:38.700 --> 00:17:41.920 you know i mean and yet there you are going these 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.539 other nations that arguably looking down on those 00:17:44.539 --> 00:17:46.839 are poorer third world if you want to describe 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.400 it and they actually got a better sense of community 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:54.500 than we have here um Another place that shocked 00:17:54.500 --> 00:17:58.259 me was when I went to Portugal about 10 years 00:17:58.259 --> 00:18:04.539 ago. If I see a cop there, I'm like, hey, what 00:18:04.539 --> 00:18:07.440 area should I be leery of? What should I avoid? 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:12.359 They're like, there's really not any place. I 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.619 was like, well, what's the most common crime? 00:18:15.740 --> 00:18:19.299 They're like, pickpockets. Look out for pickpockets. 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.039 That's about it. And then come to find out they 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:24.220 literally have the lowest crime rate in all of 00:18:24.220 --> 00:18:28.420 the EU. But here's the crazy part. They decriminalize 00:18:28.420 --> 00:18:31.279 all their drugs. But before that, they set up 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:35.599 an infrastructure of they treated their drug 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.200 addiction as a health problem, not a crime problem. 00:18:39.420 --> 00:18:43.859 Right. And so making that change and setting 00:18:43.859 --> 00:18:46.019 up rehab centers that were government funded, 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:49.220 that took care of them in the sense where they 00:18:49.220 --> 00:18:53.369 got them. to go and be a a a working part of 00:18:53.369 --> 00:18:56.730 society again because they realize this is a 00:18:56.730 --> 00:19:01.029 health problem you know what i mean but i think 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:04.150 especially with the privatization of of prisons 00:19:04.150 --> 00:19:08.309 and we need to keep them filled up but the thing 00:19:08.309 --> 00:19:10.849 is is that it costs almost three times as much 00:19:10.849 --> 00:19:13.289 to keep someone in prison than it does to get 00:19:13.289 --> 00:19:15.750 them rehab you know what i mean especially if 00:19:15.750 --> 00:19:18.119 it's a drug addiction you know let's not even 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.740 talk about the the cannabis convictions because 00:19:20.740 --> 00:19:23.440 that's just absolutely ridiculous in my mind 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:27.220 but um but we continually try to create it uh 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:31.819 create it or or keep it as a uh it's a criminal 00:19:31.819 --> 00:19:34.019 problem right and they're all criminals and that's 00:19:34.019 --> 00:19:35.160 why they're doing it because they want to do 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:38.420 it when we realize that 83 of the heroin addicted 00:19:38.420 --> 00:19:40.880 homeless people that we have out of this almost 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:46.900 700 000 83 % got that way from prescription drugs. 00:19:47.619 --> 00:19:49.640 So, and this is kind of like the point that I 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:52.599 was making earlier was it's the rich people that 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.799 are taking away from the middle class and from 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:58.700 the rest of the population so they can continually, 00:19:58.779 --> 00:20:00.359 those are the biggest drug dealers that there 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.339 are, that are around. They're literally like 00:20:03.339 --> 00:20:05.700 controlling the entire population based on drugs. 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:12.019 And they've managed to shift the mentality. especially 00:20:12.019 --> 00:20:14.339 with Purdue Pharma when they came out with that, 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.480 you know, blame the victim, right? And we still 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:20.000 haven't gotten away from that. We still are regurgitating 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.480 that. And that was literally propaganda to protect 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:26.079 themselves. But it's still implemented in our 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.319 minds that, yeah, they want to be that way. Oh, 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:31.299 they're just lazy. Oh, they just want to be addicted. 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.619 When you can't get them the prescriptions anymore 00:20:34.619 --> 00:20:38.400 from the doctor and he's cutting you off and 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.829 it gives you no other alternative. Your brain 00:20:40.829 --> 00:20:42.849 is already rewired. The only thing that it wants 00:20:42.849 --> 00:20:46.329 to do is get on that drug again or something 00:20:46.329 --> 00:20:50.029 similar to it. And so they'll try to find something 00:20:50.029 --> 00:20:53.529 that they can do in order for that to happen 00:20:53.529 --> 00:20:56.089 or make that happen, you know, with any other 00:20:56.089 --> 00:20:59.509 type of drug that they can find. And so, again, 00:20:59.529 --> 00:21:04.109 because people profit off of it, you know, it's 00:21:04.109 --> 00:21:07.230 going to maintain, you know, its control on people 00:21:07.230 --> 00:21:11.400 and population. It's funny you say Portugal because 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:17.279 my mom and my brother moved there about 25 years 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.220 ago, I think maybe a little bit less. And when 00:21:19.220 --> 00:21:21.400 I started the podcast, I don't know if we talked 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:24.180 about this last time, but she said to me, hey, 00:21:24.220 --> 00:21:26.619 do you know what they did here? And she relayed 00:21:26.619 --> 00:21:28.380 exactly what you just told me. And I ended up 00:21:28.380 --> 00:21:30.440 going to Lisbon when I was visiting one year 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.019 and sat down with Zhao Gulau, the man who spearheaded 00:21:33.019 --> 00:21:35.599 that whole initiative. And I visited, you know, 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:37.859 his headquarters and one of the treatment centers. 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.440 And like you said, I mean, I've been to Portugal 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:43.900 for two decades now, visiting my family. And 00:21:43.900 --> 00:21:46.299 when I think of the cops, they've got these shiny 00:21:46.299 --> 00:21:49.400 revolvers, almost like a kind of Roy Rogers holster, 00:21:49.420 --> 00:21:51.019 because, you know, the damn things never get 00:21:51.019 --> 00:21:53.759 used. And then I come back to the US and, you 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:55.339 know, when I was still working, I just cover, 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:57.099 you know, dead people with yellow sheets over 00:21:57.099 --> 00:21:59.599 and over again from gun violence and, you know, 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:01.880 all the ripple effects of addiction. You know, 00:22:01.900 --> 00:22:04.000 and then we talk about the government, you know, 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.279 are they actually doing the right thing for the 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:10.019 people? Well, most recently, the FDA, obviously, 00:22:10.140 --> 00:22:12.079 you know, back in the 90s approved OxyContin. 00:22:12.220 --> 00:22:14.359 And my population are the ones that are dealing 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:16.400 with that even to this day, the poor people that 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:19.140 are struggling. But then very recently, MDMA, 00:22:19.339 --> 00:22:22.940 which we know is extremely effective in treating 00:22:22.940 --> 00:22:25.220 PTSD and, you know, some of the other mental 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:27.140 health issues, especially in our populations, 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.460 plural. And it got shut down by the FDA. And 00:22:30.460 --> 00:22:32.240 that's not even prescribed. You do it with a 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.519 counselor in an actual facility. You're not given 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:37.200 it to take home. So if that doesn't underline 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.200 the fact that they don't give a fuck, that they 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.359 have no problem. And then Richard Sackler lives 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:45.380 in Boca Raton, Florida, in a mansion to this 00:22:45.380 --> 00:22:48.200 day. You know, but how many people are locked 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.000 away, like you said, for having a bag of weed 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:52.359 in their pocket in the 90s? I mean, you know, 00:22:52.380 --> 00:22:55.640 it is. We need a complete control alt delete 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:58.460 because the way we're doing it, all it does is 00:22:58.460 --> 00:23:01.480 just destroy. the average American's homes and 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:05.700 communities. Absolutely. Nailed it on the head. 00:23:07.180 --> 00:23:11.640 Absolutely. Going back to when you were in the 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.519 West Bank, talk to me about what the people were 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:16.180 doing that you were helping protect and were 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:18.019 there any stories from them, especially on the 00:23:18.019 --> 00:23:24.059 medical side? Honestly, I wasn't able to go there 00:23:24.059 --> 00:23:29.660 in any other capacity than to be a tourist. I 00:23:29.660 --> 00:23:31.660 think that was, to me, like one of the hardest 00:23:31.660 --> 00:23:35.960 things to deal with is because as much as I wanted 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:37.599 to help, as much as I wanted to do something, 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:40.579 I literally was, there was nothing I could do. 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.759 And, you know, I don't know, I'm sure the, you 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:46.420 know, on my, especially on my Instagram page 00:23:46.420 --> 00:23:50.059 and every other podcast that I've done, you see 00:23:50.059 --> 00:23:52.660 everything from Palestine plastered on there 00:23:52.660 --> 00:23:55.339 and all the things to deal with. And I'm trying 00:23:55.339 --> 00:23:57.980 to bring that to light. Because the one thing 00:23:57.980 --> 00:24:01.220 that everyone said was, we don't have a voice. 00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:05.539 Speak for us. Be our voice. And I took that to 00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:10.720 heart. I truly did. And I will continue to do 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:14.019 so for as long as I possibly can. I don't have 00:24:14.019 --> 00:24:18.960 any intention of stopping whatsoever. And I mean, 00:24:19.099 --> 00:24:24.279 if that's the only thing I can do, that to me 00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:27.470 is the very bare minimum for And it's not even 00:24:27.470 --> 00:24:29.529 something where you have to have friends or family 00:24:29.529 --> 00:24:32.150 there. Just be a freaking human being. You know 00:24:32.150 --> 00:24:35.029 what I mean? And realize that the Palestinians 00:24:35.029 --> 00:24:37.529 have been living under these conditions of ethnic 00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:41.670 cleansing and apartheid and constant dehumanization, 00:24:41.910 --> 00:24:49.109 shootings, murder detainees. I mean, it goes 00:24:49.109 --> 00:24:52.349 on and on. And what I couldn't wrap my head around 00:24:52.349 --> 00:24:56.079 was truly. How I've only been able to experience 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:59.519 this, excuse me, for two months. And then going 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:01.519 through that, I just, that's one thing just like, 00:25:01.579 --> 00:25:03.420 I can't believe they, they, they survived this. 00:25:03.460 --> 00:25:06.359 I can't believe that they're not so hateful for 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:09.720 to anybody, you know, that comes around. And 00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:11.380 one of the biggest misconceptions that a lot 00:25:11.380 --> 00:25:13.079 of people have is, is that like, Oh, they just 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.160 hate Jews. Let me tell you one thing. The only 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.319 Jews that I saw on the West bank were either 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.180 settlers who are violent and they go in there 00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:20.960 and they try to burn, either burn your crops. 00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:23.180 You know, they try to take over your home and 00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:26.299 all these small areas from there. And the Israeli 00:25:26.299 --> 00:25:29.940 occupation forces. I mean, those were literally 00:25:29.940 --> 00:25:33.059 the only two Israelis that I saw. And so when 00:25:33.059 --> 00:25:34.880 people are referring to like they hate the Jews. 00:25:35.019 --> 00:25:37.259 Yeah. The only Jews that they saw were those. 00:25:37.460 --> 00:25:40.680 You see what I mean? And so when they have like 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:42.480 the Star of David and it's crossed out, it's 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:44.539 because they wear that on their uniform. But 00:25:44.539 --> 00:25:46.660 people like to twist that around. And try to 00:25:46.660 --> 00:25:48.799 say, oh, they hate old Jews. They don't hate 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:50.980 Jews as in Jews like the religion and everything, 00:25:51.019 --> 00:25:52.799 the people themselves. They hate the people that 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.900 are oppressing them. And rightfully so. Anybody 00:25:55.900 --> 00:26:00.039 in their right mind would want to resist against 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.839 that. When you have a resistance, you know, if 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:05.039 you want to end a resistance, you got to end 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.539 what they're resisting against. That's so simple. 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:13.279 You know what I mean? It's... painful to try 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:15.339 to explain this to people when they like they 00:26:15.339 --> 00:26:18.640 don't want to get it they want to and and we've 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.299 had propaganda you know kind of pushed in for 00:26:22.299 --> 00:26:26.539 the longest time that it's it's literally like 00:26:26.539 --> 00:26:29.640 it it's almost insulting them if you're telling 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.000 them that they're wrong like no what you're thinking 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.059 and what you're saying and what you believe is 00:26:34.059 --> 00:26:39.039 wrong and and this is the one thing i've kind 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:40.880 of prided myself on is literally having these 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:42.819 conversations, you know, with these direct messages 00:26:42.819 --> 00:26:44.680 in the background and literally having these 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:46.019 small conversations with people. And they're 00:26:46.019 --> 00:26:47.259 like, well, I didn't know that. Well, I didn't 00:26:47.259 --> 00:26:48.440 know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:50.559 about the history. People don't know about how 00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:51.920 it started. People don't know about the Havar 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.119 agreement in 1933, you know, between Hitler and 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.720 the Zionists, you know, that started the migration 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:00.539 of 33 ,000 Jews, Jewish Zionists between 1933 00:27:00.539 --> 00:27:03.759 and 1939. People don't know about the first terrorist 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:05.460 attack that happened in the Middle East, you 00:27:05.460 --> 00:27:09.630 know, and. The SS Patria in 1940, where they 00:27:09.630 --> 00:27:11.950 were so desperate to keep, you know, the Jews 00:27:11.950 --> 00:27:16.029 that were there using them as a front that when 00:27:16.029 --> 00:27:20.390 the British were tried to try to deport them, 00:27:20.430 --> 00:27:24.049 they literally blew up that ship and killing 00:27:24.049 --> 00:27:28.009 like 261 Jews. That was the Jewish Zionists that 00:27:28.009 --> 00:27:29.670 did that. You know what I mean? And initially 00:27:29.670 --> 00:27:31.710 they tried to blame the Arabs. So it wasn't like 00:27:31.710 --> 00:27:33.450 this act of heroism, you know, where they're 00:27:33.450 --> 00:27:35.470 trying to like stop them from leaving. If they 00:27:35.470 --> 00:27:37.569 try to blame somebody else, that's already like 00:27:37.569 --> 00:27:40.069 a false flag operation. And they did it again 00:27:40.069 --> 00:27:44.430 six years later, July 22nd, 1946, at the King 00:27:44.430 --> 00:27:46.569 David Hotel. But they bombed the south wing of 00:27:46.569 --> 00:27:49.369 the hotel, dressed up as Arabs and telling everyone, 00:27:49.430 --> 00:27:50.950 yeah, it was Arabs, it was Arabs, it was Arabs. 00:27:51.670 --> 00:27:54.869 And that killed Jews, that killed the British, 00:27:54.970 --> 00:27:57.470 that killed Palestinians, that killed 91 of a 00:27:57.470 --> 00:28:02.309 mixed group. And the crazy part was, is like... 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:16.640 What's his name? Yitzhak Rabin? Yeah. That sounds 00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:22.779 right. Sorry. Was actually prime minister later 00:28:22.779 --> 00:28:25.059 on. You know what I mean? And so these people, 00:28:25.339 --> 00:28:31.460 and Menachem Begin was actually behind the King 00:28:31.460 --> 00:28:34.000 David Hotel bombing. This guy not only was a 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.180 PM, but he won the Nobel Peace Prize. So not 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:40.460 only are they not held accountable to it, but 00:28:40.460 --> 00:28:42.019 they're rewarded for it. You know what I mean? 00:28:42.259 --> 00:28:44.859 And this, I think, is one of the worst things 00:28:44.859 --> 00:28:48.460 that they have to deal with is that not only 00:28:48.460 --> 00:28:50.059 are they doing wrong, but they're being rewarded 00:28:50.059 --> 00:28:54.460 by the West because they're able to spin it. 00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:58.660 You see what I mean? So the amount of frustration 00:28:58.660 --> 00:29:02.750 that I can't even fathom. And it doesn't even 00:29:02.750 --> 00:29:09.890 stop there. The Lehi, the Ergon, the Haganah, 00:29:10.009 --> 00:29:14.450 all these groups later on joined together, right? 00:29:14.509 --> 00:29:16.170 They just banded them together, and they all 00:29:16.170 --> 00:29:17.890 absorbed into each other, and they created the 00:29:17.890 --> 00:29:20.990 IDF. So literally, you have a terrorist organization, 00:29:21.369 --> 00:29:23.450 terrorist cells that united together, and that's 00:29:23.450 --> 00:29:26.490 what became the Israeli Defense Forces. And that's 00:29:26.490 --> 00:29:28.490 what happened in 1948. Those were the people 00:29:28.490 --> 00:29:30.250 that were doing it. So they had a head start 00:29:30.250 --> 00:29:34.089 in all this. I mean, these weren't fringe groups, 00:29:34.230 --> 00:29:37.430 right? They were the backbone of the Israeli 00:29:37.430 --> 00:29:42.190 military. I think we talked before, you know, 00:29:42.190 --> 00:29:46.190 when I reflect back to growing up, you know, 00:29:46.190 --> 00:29:48.529 I grew up as a young boy in the 80s. I was right 00:29:48.529 --> 00:29:52.269 next to a military base in the UK, Ministry of 00:29:52.269 --> 00:29:55.509 Defense base. And I remember having to sweep 00:29:55.509 --> 00:29:57.950 our car for bombs because of the IRA and, you 00:29:57.950 --> 00:30:00.230 know, because there were mainland bombings. But 00:30:00.230 --> 00:30:02.890 when I start learning the history of that occupation, 00:30:03.349 --> 00:30:07.390 you understand how this became. Now, is it right 00:30:07.390 --> 00:30:10.309 that each side is blowing up innocent people 00:30:10.309 --> 00:30:13.190 or shooting innocent people in Belfast or whatever 00:30:13.190 --> 00:30:16.490 it is? Of course not. But the only way you're 00:30:16.490 --> 00:30:18.170 going to stop this domino effect is you've got 00:30:18.170 --> 00:30:20.269 to understand the origin and you've got to stop 00:30:20.269 --> 00:30:22.309 this to -ing and fro -ing. It's like gang killings, 00:30:22.309 --> 00:30:24.369 you know, the Crips and the Bloods. At what point 00:30:24.369 --> 00:30:26.069 do you go, hey... There's a lot of young black 00:30:26.069 --> 00:30:29.130 people dying here. We need to stop this. So when 00:30:29.130 --> 00:30:31.490 I look at this, you know, from an American lens 00:30:31.490 --> 00:30:34.410 now, I mean, you and I have heard this over and 00:30:34.410 --> 00:30:37.250 over. Oh, but October 7th. I said, well, yeah, 00:30:37.289 --> 00:30:39.690 October 7th, you know, and there was provocation 00:30:39.690 --> 00:30:41.690 and things. But yeah, it was horrendous. No one 00:30:41.690 --> 00:30:43.650 is saying that the innocent people killed on 00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:46.650 October 7th wasn't a tragedy as well. It was 00:30:46.650 --> 00:30:50.660 another byproduct of this back and forth. To 00:30:50.660 --> 00:30:53.579 then turn your head at all the atrocities. I 00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:55.180 mean, if you look at the footage now of Gaza, 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:58.700 I mean, there's not a building standing. You 00:30:58.700 --> 00:31:01.039 know, we're talking, I know it was 50 ,000. I'm 00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.359 assuming it's probably 60 ,000 or so people killed 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.519 now. I think 20 ,000 of those were children. 00:31:06.779 --> 00:31:09.400 You know, we've got so many emergency workers 00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.339 and doctors and nurses murdered in cold blood. 00:31:13.380 --> 00:31:17.279 Why is that narrative? Still so strong and a 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.859 lot of countries like the UK were absolutely 00:31:19.859 --> 00:31:22.119 cowardly at first and they're finally starting 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.259 to come around and have a backbone now. But our 00:31:25.259 --> 00:31:29.079 own nation still refuses to outwardly condemn 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.200 what's going on. In fact, the opposite. They 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:34.480 still are basically funding and arming the very 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:40.640 oppressor. One of the things that it just if 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.039 you look at the origin of how these resistance 00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.609 groups even were. Why were they created? Why 00:31:46.609 --> 00:31:48.289 are they doing this? These are the questions 00:31:48.289 --> 00:31:50.150 that they just want to condemn what's happening 00:31:50.150 --> 00:31:52.829 right now. People have goldfish memories. So 00:31:52.829 --> 00:31:55.910 it's one of those things like, for example, Hezbollah, 00:31:56.009 --> 00:31:59.369 right? Hezbollah wasn't even started until 1984. 00:32:00.410 --> 00:32:04.529 And no one asks why. Well, they invaded Lebanon 00:32:04.529 --> 00:32:07.789 for the first time in 1979. And then they fully, 00:32:07.910 --> 00:32:10.710 like, excuse me, they attacked in 1979. They 00:32:10.710 --> 00:32:14.230 fully invaded and occupied since 1982. Then Hezbollah 00:32:14.230 --> 00:32:16.970 was created. You see what I mean? So you have 00:32:16.970 --> 00:32:19.410 these resistance forces that are literally pushing 00:32:19.410 --> 00:32:24.829 back on the occupation because it's a foreign 00:32:24.829 --> 00:32:26.910 country coming in and trying to take over and 00:32:26.910 --> 00:32:29.190 pushing the lines constantly. Israel doesn't 00:32:29.190 --> 00:32:31.009 have any defined borders. They do that by design. 00:32:31.609 --> 00:32:33.910 That's the kind of crazy part is that a lot of 00:32:33.910 --> 00:32:38.470 people don't even know that. And then they just 00:32:38.470 --> 00:32:40.549 want to bring up, like, for example, the embassy 00:32:40.549 --> 00:32:47.430 bombings in 1982, right? Well, the barracks bombings, 00:32:47.450 --> 00:32:49.190 the Marines barrack bombings, and right before 00:32:49.190 --> 00:32:50.769 that, the embassy bombings, they just want to 00:32:50.769 --> 00:32:54.130 remember that. But again, they don't want to 00:32:54.130 --> 00:32:56.930 study history and see why did that happen. And 00:32:56.930 --> 00:33:00.190 I think that's one of the most disheartening 00:33:00.190 --> 00:33:03.250 things is that you have this massive population 00:33:03.250 --> 00:33:10.910 that is supporting these criminals. And they 00:33:10.910 --> 00:33:14.670 don't want to know why. If you talk about the 00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:22.289 worst slaughter of civilians in Middle East history, 00:33:22.529 --> 00:33:26.789 in modern history of this century at least, it 00:33:26.789 --> 00:33:29.309 wasn't October 7th by any stretch of the imagination. 00:33:29.849 --> 00:33:32.130 People don't want to remember the Sabra and Shatila 00:33:32.130 --> 00:33:34.410 massacre, right? Or even the details to it, where 00:33:34.410 --> 00:33:37.509 14 ,000 of the PLO fighters actually tried to, 00:33:37.549 --> 00:33:40.509 like, okay, we are going to disarm. We are going 00:33:40.509 --> 00:33:42.720 to put our weapons down. And we're going to leave. 00:33:42.900 --> 00:33:46.220 And so the U .S. brokered that deal, was named 00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:49.779 Habib, the ambassador Habib, brokered that deal. 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.940 And they literally put down their weapons at 00:33:53.940 --> 00:33:58.500 the the suburb refugee camp and the refugee camp 00:33:58.500 --> 00:34:01.740 was left with women, children and the elderly. 00:34:01.900 --> 00:34:06.819 Right. And right after they left, they left to 00:34:06.819 --> 00:34:11.320 Tunisia. And right after they left. This is when 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.420 the phalangist Christian group that had partnered 00:34:13.420 --> 00:34:16.420 up with the Israelis had surrounded it and just 00:34:16.420 --> 00:34:21.099 slaughtered up to 3 ,500 people in two days. 00:34:21.820 --> 00:34:26.179 In two days. Then after that is because they 00:34:26.179 --> 00:34:28.960 brokered a deal. And so can you imagine 14 ,000 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:30.880 people that said, you know what? We're going 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:32.699 to be the bigger person in this. We're going 00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:34.360 to lay down our weapons. We're going to leave 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:38.780 as long as my family is protected. And they give 00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:40.619 them their word. Right. The U .S. gave them their 00:34:40.619 --> 00:34:43.219 word and the multinational forces that were there 00:34:43.219 --> 00:34:45.619 for like peacekeeping mission. They were like, 00:34:45.699 --> 00:34:49.179 OK. And but the problem was is they took off, 00:34:49.179 --> 00:34:51.599 too. And right after that, like three days later 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.579 after that is when that happened. And they were 00:34:54.579 --> 00:34:56.420 popping flares. There was really like surrounded 00:34:56.420 --> 00:34:58.719 and making sure no one left and pop flares for 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:00.500 them at night. So they continue the massacre. 00:35:01.579 --> 00:35:04.980 There was that was the worst, you know, slaughter 00:35:04.980 --> 00:35:09.099 of civilians in modern history. And that's what 00:35:09.099 --> 00:35:12.139 led to it. You see what I mean? What year was 00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:17.940 that? 1982. Yeah. Yeah. So why is it, why do 00:35:17.940 --> 00:35:20.219 we not hearing, I mean, you were obviously, you 00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:22.139 know, someone, and again, I literally had my 00:35:22.139 --> 00:35:24.980 Instagram shut down and they said it was a copyright 00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:27.880 violation, but I know, you know, there was a 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.699 big bullseye on my back because I actually, you 00:35:30.699 --> 00:35:32.579 know, care enough about humans that we're trying 00:35:32.579 --> 00:35:34.800 to be a voice for, you know, the atrocities that 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.980 are going on. And again, it's not. blindly pro 00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:41.039 -Palestinian and anti -Israeli. It's just pro 00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:45.019 -human. So whoever is in the crossfire, I'm trying 00:35:45.019 --> 00:35:49.460 to advocate for. But I'm not hearing this voice 00:35:49.460 --> 00:35:52.760 from many people in the veteran population. Even, 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.159 I mean, I had Tulsi on. I'm talking about the 00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:57.980 whole industrial military complex and assuming 00:35:57.980 --> 00:36:00.000 there's going to be more diplomacy. And then 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.110 we get into here and again, zero. So why are 00:36:04.110 --> 00:36:06.829 we not hearing more of our veterans speaking 00:36:06.829 --> 00:36:09.349 up against these atrocities when they were held 00:36:09.349 --> 00:36:11.849 to a very staunch rules of engagement themselves? 00:36:12.909 --> 00:36:16.150 That is a phenomenal question, and it's one that 00:36:16.150 --> 00:36:21.190 I have yet to figure out. Honestly, it boggles 00:36:21.190 --> 00:36:24.010 my mind because it's not only that. And so when 00:36:24.010 --> 00:36:27.989 I'm talking to especially Americans that are 00:36:27.989 --> 00:36:32.760 completely staunch supporters of Israel, I have 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.860 to tap into like how it affects the U .S. Right. 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.260 So recently we give we're not recently since 00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:43.219 1948, we have given more aid, more money, our 00:36:43.219 --> 00:36:45.900 tax dollar money up to three hundred and ten 00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:50.699 billion dollars combined to to Israel. For what? 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.460 How how does the U .S. citizen benefit from giving 00:36:54.460 --> 00:36:59.739 that amount of money since 2000? Was it 2015? 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.320 I think it was like 10 years to three point four 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.219 billion dollars a year under the Obama administration. 00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:07.260 And that was a shitbag move on his part to actually 00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:10.239 apply for the to prove that. But three point 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.840 four billion dollars a year. That's that's literally 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:17.000 ten point four million dollars a day to Israel. 00:37:17.300 --> 00:37:19.440 They have free health care. They have free education. 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:21.480 They don't have it's not a third world country. 00:37:21.539 --> 00:37:23.780 Why are they getting all this money? You see 00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:25.860 what I mean? What what can we do? This is why 00:37:25.860 --> 00:37:29.500 we have. At the same time, we have homeless veterans. 00:37:29.619 --> 00:37:33.079 We have a homeless population, period, of almost 00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:38.300 700 ,000. We have a drug problem. We have more 00:37:38.300 --> 00:37:44.440 people going broke from medical bills having 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.840 to file for bankruptcy than anything else. I 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.300 mean, 53 % of the U .S. population is literally 00:37:50.300 --> 00:37:52.360 going broke from medical bills. They have to 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.639 declare bankruptcy from that. And we're just 00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:56.179 ignoring that, saying, you know what? You can 00:37:56.179 --> 00:38:02.579 have $10 .4 million a day of our tax money. And 00:38:02.579 --> 00:38:05.239 where's Doge on this? You know what I mean? Where 00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.639 are they? What the fuck are they doing with it? 00:38:07.860 --> 00:38:09.780 You know what I mean? And this is at the same 00:38:09.780 --> 00:38:12.559 time where we've gone in and supported them, 00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.039 more vetoes for Israel than any other country. 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.199 I mean, almost half of the vetoes that we've 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.940 had since the inception of the UN, more veto 00:38:19.940 --> 00:38:22.820 power. The veto that we've actually used has 00:38:22.820 --> 00:38:25.630 been for Israel. You know what I mean? And again, 00:38:25.730 --> 00:38:28.289 to save them from their atrocities. We have a 00:38:28.289 --> 00:38:31.130 nuclear program. They never signed a nonproliferation 00:38:31.130 --> 00:38:34.369 treaty. Right. They don't have inspections. But 00:38:34.369 --> 00:38:36.809 all the things that we went to war with and so 00:38:36.809 --> 00:38:39.949 much less with Iraq because they were the big 00:38:39.949 --> 00:38:43.349 threat. And these are the guys that we said I 00:38:43.349 --> 00:38:45.170 was saying was the one that he was like, buddy, 00:38:45.269 --> 00:38:48.070 buddy. You know what I mean? We were like funding 00:38:48.070 --> 00:38:49.550 him with all the military so they could fight 00:38:49.550 --> 00:38:54.099 Iran at the same time funding funding. Iran itself 00:38:54.099 --> 00:38:57.320 to fight Iraq. You know, the good old Oliver 00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.699 North. And that's the crazy part is that, but 00:39:00.699 --> 00:39:02.280 people don't want to know the history of that. 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.440 People are just saying, oh, they're saying death 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:06.420 to America, death to America. Well, guess what? 00:39:06.579 --> 00:39:08.420 North Korea has been saying that for a while. 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:11.039 How come we don't bomb them? They got nukes and 00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.000 no shit. So how can you blame them for that? 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:19.559 And then when you have like, what is it? Flight 00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:27.000 655. Flight 655 that happened in 1988. This is 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.739 not ancient history. This is just what happened. 00:39:30.139 --> 00:39:39.000 It was a civilian flight and the USS V -I -C 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:44.599 -C -E -N -E -S in the Gulf. The American warship 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:48.219 that was in the Gulf at the time. They mistook 00:39:48.219 --> 00:39:53.119 it for an F -14 Tomcat. They literally downed 00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:57.139 a civilian um airbus that was full of civilians 00:39:57.139 --> 00:40:00.059 from Iran going to Dubai and that you know the 00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:02.400 crazy part is is that we never apologized for 00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.320 that um the the uh the commander got a legion 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.500 of merit he got and got and got an honorable 00:40:09.500 --> 00:40:14.420 discharge you wonder why they say these things 00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:17.420 well just dig you don't have to dig deep at all 00:40:17.420 --> 00:40:19.800 you just have to dig a little bit and wonder 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.389 why So imagine like all those family members, 00:40:22.530 --> 00:40:28.170 right? The 200 and I forgot how many, like 288, 00:40:28.190 --> 00:40:32.230 I think it was the number. But, and again, even 00:40:32.230 --> 00:40:36.690 when George Bush took over the senior, he's like, 00:40:36.769 --> 00:40:38.329 I'm not going to apologize for anything. You 00:40:38.329 --> 00:40:39.710 know what I mean? And he made that statement 00:40:39.710 --> 00:40:41.710 in general, but everyone knows what he was referring 00:40:41.710 --> 00:40:45.309 to. And he was saying this, like, like it's some 00:40:45.309 --> 00:40:49.309 bravado, like bullshit. Dude, you fucked up. 00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:51.920 Just. account for it, you know, so we can actually, 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.840 like, create some type of peace. But this is 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.880 what continues ongoing, ongoing. Everything that's 00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:58.860 going on with Iran right now, and again, you 00:40:58.860 --> 00:41:00.599 know, they're saying death to America. There's 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.199 a lot of countries that say that. Probably, you 00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.719 know, the majority of them, if not all of them, 00:41:04.739 --> 00:41:07.800 are the ones that we were part of a coup. Iran 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.880 included. Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953, Operation 00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:18.679 Ajax. We have Kermit Roosevelt, right? The grandson 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.449 of Teddy Roosevelt. that started that when he 00:41:21.449 --> 00:41:24.389 was part of the CIA to overthrow Mosaddegh. And 00:41:24.389 --> 00:41:27.349 that was a democratically elected prime minister 00:41:27.349 --> 00:41:30.230 who wanted to nationalize his oil. And he was 00:41:30.230 --> 00:41:32.289 actually at the White House, you know, staying 00:41:32.289 --> 00:41:34.210 there for like two weeks when he was sick, staying 00:41:34.210 --> 00:41:37.530 with Truman. And when the British came to say, 00:41:37.690 --> 00:41:40.429 hey, they want to take our profits from this, 00:41:40.489 --> 00:41:42.170 and they were making money hand over fist and 00:41:42.170 --> 00:41:44.789 treating Iranians like shit. And Truman's like, 00:41:44.869 --> 00:41:48.039 no, we're not doing that. and then uh he waited 00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:50.139 till like the next presidency and then mi6 in 00:41:50.139 --> 00:41:52.960 the u .s conducted this this coup and then put 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:58.760 in um the um the shah the lobby and pivali pivali 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.840 pizali whatever that one um and the monarchy 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:05.219 and they they and they're like oh it's modern 00:42:05.219 --> 00:42:07.440 you know it's the the u .s of the middle east 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:11.800 um and but they they ignore entirely that the 00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:15.630 sabak right the uh the uh the kind of like the 00:42:15.630 --> 00:42:18.289 secret police that was torturing, imprisoning, 00:42:18.289 --> 00:42:20.570 murdering people, like any type of dissent that 00:42:20.570 --> 00:42:22.969 was happening whatsoever. And he was squandering 00:42:22.969 --> 00:42:26.030 all the national assets and just for himself, 00:42:26.210 --> 00:42:30.590 you know? And then when he had the student revolution 00:42:30.590 --> 00:42:34.989 that stormed the CIA, it's because they had everything 00:42:34.989 --> 00:42:37.969 there stored and the CIA finally admitted to 00:42:37.969 --> 00:42:41.610 it in 2013, right? But they kept that secret 00:42:41.610 --> 00:42:44.119 for the longest time. And that's what they went 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.679 to. And they found all the proof and they showed 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:48.480 it to the world. And that's the crazy part is 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.460 that, you know, it's not just you have to I'm 00:42:51.460 --> 00:42:53.539 not taking sides here, but you have to understand 00:42:53.539 --> 00:42:56.320 what's going on before you can say they're on 00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:59.099 the wrong 100 percent, no matter what. You know, 00:42:59.099 --> 00:43:03.619 and what has Iran ever attacked anyone on U .S. 00:43:03.659 --> 00:43:06.599 soil? No, never. Not once. Have they attacked 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.780 everyone in the Middle East yet? Should we be 00:43:08.780 --> 00:43:11.079 there in the first place? And that's what people 00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.059 fail to realize, is that if we weren't there, 00:43:13.179 --> 00:43:15.219 we wouldn't get bombed, we wouldn't be killed. 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.059 The USS Cole was another example of that. Why 00:43:19.059 --> 00:43:20.960 were we there in the first place? You know what 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.159 I mean? If we weren't there, then none of this 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:24.880 would happen. And what right do we have to be 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.199 there? We have bases in 88 different countries. 00:43:28.739 --> 00:43:32.079 And imagine if Iranian bases were surrounding 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.360 the United States. We would feel threatened too. 00:43:36.420 --> 00:43:42.179 And then if we shot down... a passenger plane, 00:43:42.500 --> 00:43:45.820 how would the U .S. react to that? Do you think 00:43:45.820 --> 00:43:48.599 they'd forget about that? But Israel does that 00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.340 in 1967 with the USS Liberty. Now it's like, 00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.460 oh, that's just ancient news. No, that's ancient 00:43:53.460 --> 00:43:54.960 news. Let's forget about that. Let's just put 00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.199 that behind us. And they're like, oh, it was 00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.980 a mistake. No, it wasn't a mistake. I read the 00:43:59.980 --> 00:44:03.480 transcripts on that. And I saw all the interviews 00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.480 from all the people that were actually surviving 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.929 from the USS Liberty. And not a single one said 00:44:08.929 --> 00:44:10.809 it was a mistake. They had flybys in the morning. 00:44:11.269 --> 00:44:14.949 It was clearly marked. Everything about it was 00:44:14.949 --> 00:44:20.210 planned and executed to the T. And the worst 00:44:20.210 --> 00:44:24.849 part, and I'm not always blaming Israel on this 00:44:24.849 --> 00:44:26.829 because the U .S. had a good part in that. They 00:44:26.829 --> 00:44:28.989 actually sent a message saying, hey, we need 00:44:28.989 --> 00:44:30.909 reinforcements. We need backup. We need some 00:44:30.909 --> 00:44:34.630 protection on this. And LBJ responded like, we're 00:44:34.630 --> 00:44:39.059 not going to embarrass Israel. So it's not always, 00:44:39.139 --> 00:44:42.360 I can't say all of the blame, but they did all 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.199 the attacking. You know what I mean? And then 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.900 when the life rafts came out, they were shooting 00:44:47.900 --> 00:44:49.619 at the life rafts, trying to sink them as well, 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:51.019 because they didn't want any witnesses to see 00:44:51.019 --> 00:44:55.079 what they were doing in Syria. No one wants to 00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:58.260 talk about that. Let's talk about it. Absolutely. 00:44:58.909 --> 00:45:00.949 Well, you talked about taking sides too. I mean, 00:45:00.969 --> 00:45:03.130 you've mentioned, you know, Republican presidents, 00:45:03.289 --> 00:45:05.369 you mentioned Democrat presidents, Democratic. 00:45:06.409 --> 00:45:08.650 This is one thing that I really struggle with 00:45:08.650 --> 00:45:15.250 today is that it feels like people have found 00:45:15.250 --> 00:45:18.030 themselves where they would adhere to a political 00:45:18.030 --> 00:45:20.750 identity more than the shared humanity, more 00:45:20.750 --> 00:45:23.849 than the benefit of the nation. So you're actually 00:45:23.849 --> 00:45:27.010 a Republican first, American second, or a Democrat 00:45:27.010 --> 00:45:31.099 first. american second how have we got to that 00:45:31.099 --> 00:45:34.099 point and how the fuck do we get ourselves out 00:45:34.099 --> 00:45:36.460 of the absolute shit show that is this deliberate 00:45:36.460 --> 00:45:40.980 division that's separating our people man that 00:45:40.980 --> 00:45:42.960 that is the question of the century i definitely 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.420 think it doesn't start with the current presidency 00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:47.599 i think this one's like for division wise it's 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.820 like the worst thing that's ever happened um 00:45:49.820 --> 00:45:54.940 and again if you were following me uh before 00:45:54.940 --> 00:45:59.269 you know how many times I condemned Biden for 00:45:59.269 --> 00:46:01.409 the shit. You know what I mean? I called him 00:46:01.409 --> 00:46:03.070 out on everything. I was calling the shit back. 00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:05.909 He is fucking, he's definitely complicit in what's 00:46:05.909 --> 00:46:07.710 happening. You know what I mean? I don't give 00:46:07.710 --> 00:46:10.590 him a pass whatsoever, but Trump coming in and 00:46:10.590 --> 00:46:13.690 continuing it, you know, but he also received 00:46:13.690 --> 00:46:17.929 what, 235 million from AIPAC. So we have foreign 00:46:17.929 --> 00:46:20.150 entities that are looking out for the best interest 00:46:20.150 --> 00:46:23.250 of a foreign country before our own. That should 00:46:23.250 --> 00:46:26.469 end right away. That's the first thing. We have 00:46:26.469 --> 00:46:30.289 politicians that literally go into bank off the 00:46:30.289 --> 00:46:33.170 laws that they pass, the policies that they pass 00:46:33.170 --> 00:46:37.309 in order to benefit the corporations. I think 00:46:37.309 --> 00:46:39.909 the Citizens United case was literally like one 00:46:39.909 --> 00:46:42.570 of the worst things to happen in history. It 00:46:42.570 --> 00:46:46.250 gave corporations so much more power. And I think 00:46:46.250 --> 00:46:47.630 that's one of the biggest things that we're not 00:46:47.630 --> 00:46:53.650 looking at. To the root of this, the way it's 00:46:53.650 --> 00:46:59.230 become. And I truly believe this is when someone's 00:46:59.230 --> 00:47:02.369 theology or ideology becomes infused with their 00:47:02.369 --> 00:47:05.889 identity. Now, it's not like if you tell me, 00:47:05.909 --> 00:47:08.210 like, some of my statements are wrong. No problem. 00:47:08.250 --> 00:47:10.630 I got my dates wrong. Like, you're right. My 00:47:10.630 --> 00:47:13.650 bad. I can't do that anymore if it's attached 00:47:13.650 --> 00:47:15.409 to my identity, because now you're saying I'm 00:47:15.409 --> 00:47:19.010 wrong. You see what I mean? And once you're saying 00:47:19.010 --> 00:47:20.690 I'm wrong, now I have to double down and protect 00:47:20.690 --> 00:47:23.110 myself because now you're attacking me personally. 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:25.659 But I'm not attacking you personally. I'm literally 00:47:25.659 --> 00:47:27.960 saying what you're saying is wrong, but they 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.659 can't separate that anymore. And so it becomes 00:47:30.659 --> 00:47:34.099 like a direct reflection of their identity. And 00:47:34.099 --> 00:47:36.579 and you can no longer tell them that they're 00:47:36.579 --> 00:47:41.119 wrong. Like, even if I like provide proof and 00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:45.139 and citations and resources or like just one 00:47:45.139 --> 00:47:46.840 thing after another, they'll ignore it and move 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:53.829 to something else. But Obama, but Biden. I'm 00:47:53.829 --> 00:47:55.829 not giving them a pass either. But what can Biden 00:47:55.829 --> 00:47:59.570 do right now about the current situation? If 00:47:59.570 --> 00:48:01.309 Biden was in office, I'd still be criticizing 00:48:01.309 --> 00:48:03.829 him. If Obama was in office, I'd still be criticizing 00:48:03.829 --> 00:48:06.190 him. But neither one of them are in office right 00:48:06.190 --> 00:48:08.750 now. It's the current person in. And we have 00:48:08.750 --> 00:48:10.809 people that consider themselves constitutionalists. 00:48:10.809 --> 00:48:12.550 They have the tattoos, we the people all over 00:48:12.550 --> 00:48:16.090 the place. But their allegiance is to the president. 00:48:16.250 --> 00:48:18.130 No, that should never happen. That's the reason 00:48:18.130 --> 00:48:21.320 why we have. such an amazing constitution because 00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.420 when they knew that it wasn't going to be perfect 00:48:23.420 --> 00:48:25.599 and it could be changed. And the problem with 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.139 this is, is that this document is as a rules 00:48:28.139 --> 00:48:31.280 and parameters that we have lived by. And my 00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:35.340 loyalty is to the United States only to the constitution. 00:48:35.659 --> 00:48:38.940 Those are, that's, that's who I have. That's 00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:42.860 my highest authority is a U S constitution, nothing 00:48:42.860 --> 00:48:45.800 else, not another country, definitely not another 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.400 country, just the United States. And somehow 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.300 this is offensive to some people. When I say 00:48:52.300 --> 00:48:55.239 this, this is offensive because I don't put theology 00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:57.239 first, because I don't put foreign interests 00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.840 first. How is this offensive? I literally care 00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:02.420 about my country first. I am a fucking patriot 00:49:02.420 --> 00:49:04.960 because I believe in the Constitution and the 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.219 Constitution is the only thing I'm loyal to. 00:49:07.739 --> 00:49:10.119 But somehow I'm not a patriot anymore because 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.170 I'm criticizing a foreign government. How the 00:49:13.170 --> 00:49:16.349 fuck can I criticize my own country, and it literally 00:49:16.349 --> 00:49:18.730 says so in the Constitution that freedom of speech 00:49:18.730 --> 00:49:20.969 should do that, but I can't, and all of a sudden 00:49:20.969 --> 00:49:22.409 I have to watch what I say when I talk about 00:49:22.409 --> 00:49:24.909 a foreign government. That makes no sense to 00:49:24.909 --> 00:49:28.190 me. But to get back to your question, sorry for 00:49:28.190 --> 00:49:37.909 the rant. Rant away. Man, I don't know. The thing 00:49:37.909 --> 00:49:39.610 is, is that we've seen this playbook before. 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.599 you know we've seen this happen before in so 00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.760 many different things these false flag attacks 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:47.460 in order to get you know the you know the the 00:49:47.460 --> 00:49:49.500 the majority of people that don't understand 00:49:49.500 --> 00:49:51.199 history that don't do their own research that 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.980 you know they're easily influenced um just watching 00:49:54.980 --> 00:49:58.219 um the congressional hearings on the gulf of 00:49:58.219 --> 00:50:01.780 uh gulf of tonkin resolution right i watched 00:50:01.780 --> 00:50:04.099 this like a week ago black and white it was in 00:50:04.099 --> 00:50:08.480 1964 and if you hear like the things that they're 00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:11.440 saying they're like oh the the first attack that 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:15.360 happened um we um we were shooting warning shots 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:18.219 you know to the vietnamese in international waters 00:50:18.219 --> 00:50:20.219 well first off you're in international waters 00:50:20.219 --> 00:50:23.059 what are you doing warning shots for right and 00:50:23.059 --> 00:50:24.460 then they had like little scuffle and then the 00:50:24.460 --> 00:50:26.639 second time they said that the vietnamese attacked 00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.159 but they didn't you know what i mean that's the 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.860 crazy part is is that there was just a bunch 00:50:31.860 --> 00:50:34.820 of like walking around the the topic and they 00:50:34.820 --> 00:50:37.260 were just trying to dodge it and it's so shady 00:50:37.260 --> 00:50:40.829 but that is literally what got us involved like 00:50:40.829 --> 00:50:43.190 the catalyst for us to get like instead of going 00:50:43.190 --> 00:50:45.469 from like an advisory position in vietnam it's 00:50:45.469 --> 00:50:47.230 actually full -on blowing boots on the ground 00:50:47.230 --> 00:50:50.070 let's go in the whole um that's when they started 00:50:50.070 --> 00:50:53.269 talking about the uh the um communist the domino 00:50:53.269 --> 00:50:56.389 effect right if vietnam gets taken laos cambodia 00:50:56.389 --> 00:50:58.690 and and then the whole world becomes you know 00:50:58.690 --> 00:51:00.530 the communists and that was like the big communist 00:51:00.530 --> 00:51:04.130 threat they used that you know consistently and 00:51:04.130 --> 00:51:07.789 that was like their doctrine to do that It's 00:51:07.789 --> 00:51:11.349 the same thing. We've seen this. Man, I hate 00:51:11.349 --> 00:51:14.369 sounding like a conspiracy theorist. But holy 00:51:14.369 --> 00:51:18.550 shit, dude. For work first, why aren't the 9 00:51:18.550 --> 00:51:21.449 -11 files made public? Why are they confidential? 00:51:22.309 --> 00:51:24.289 People have so many questions, including myself. 00:51:24.369 --> 00:51:27.250 It just doesn't make sense. And if that was the 00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:29.250 catalyst for us to go into war, we certainly 00:51:29.250 --> 00:51:34.539 should have. We lost enough people at war. I 00:51:34.539 --> 00:51:38.679 mean, we lost, what, 7 ,000 people in Afghanistan 00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:44.019 and Iraq. Maybe three times the amount were injured, 00:51:44.179 --> 00:51:47.619 right? But there was a congressman, I totally 00:51:47.619 --> 00:51:52.920 forgot his name, but the first time I heard this 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:57.659 was about four years ago. And since 9 -11, we 00:51:57.659 --> 00:52:03.099 have lost 150 ,000 to veteran suicide. A hundred 00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:05.340 and fifty thousand, you know, from the accumulation 00:52:05.340 --> 00:52:07.099 of all these different wars that we've been into. 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.659 And yet we're still hiding that. We're still 00:52:10.659 --> 00:52:13.239 like it's still hush hush. We still can't talk 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.460 about it. It's like and and I think that's an 00:52:16.460 --> 00:52:20.699 absolute disgrace. Right. And so, you know, the 00:52:20.699 --> 00:52:25.539 was his name, Spetley Butler, the Marine general. 00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:28.880 Right. War is a racket. He had this figured out 00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:32.929 like a hundred years ago. He knew that what was 00:52:32.929 --> 00:52:34.889 going on. And when you read his book, it's just 00:52:34.889 --> 00:52:38.150 crazy, like how spot on he is. We're literally, 00:52:38.250 --> 00:52:41.030 you know, sending forces in. The U .S. doesn't 00:52:41.030 --> 00:52:43.670 have friends. It has interests. And these interests 00:52:43.670 --> 00:52:45.710 always benefit the corporations, never the American 00:52:45.710 --> 00:52:48.670 citizen. So why are we doing this? The one thing 00:52:48.670 --> 00:52:52.010 that's that's crazy about Iran is that you brought 00:52:52.010 --> 00:52:55.030 up Tulsi Gabbard and she said in March they have 00:52:55.030 --> 00:52:57.869 no nuclear weapons. They have no capability to 00:52:57.869 --> 00:53:00.360 make nuclear weapons. They haven't. And again, 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:03.219 we had inspectors out there. We had people going. 00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:06.340 They had 24 -7 access until 2018, until Trump 00:53:06.340 --> 00:53:10.219 eliminated that, right? But it's more than oil. 00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:12.659 One thing they skipped over is that the last 00:53:12.659 --> 00:53:15.880 10 years they've been surveying for antimony, 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.039 right? And they found these massive deposits, 00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:23.300 like 7 ,000 metric tons of antimony, which is 00:53:23.300 --> 00:53:25.559 used primarily in military industrial complex. 00:53:26.380 --> 00:53:28.500 This is something that people don't talk about. 00:53:28.889 --> 00:53:31.190 And this is the crazy part is that it's like 00:53:31.190 --> 00:53:33.550 it's not just oil, but it's also minerals. And 00:53:33.550 --> 00:53:35.389 this is a country that isn't protected by next. 00:53:35.510 --> 00:53:37.510 And no way am I protecting the government of 00:53:37.510 --> 00:53:40.349 Iran. They are oppressive there. I mean, they 00:53:40.349 --> 00:53:42.269 have so many human rights violations, especially 00:53:42.269 --> 00:53:45.050 against women. It's horrible. And I'm not defending 00:53:45.050 --> 00:53:48.289 them. But how is bombing the population going 00:53:48.289 --> 00:53:51.449 to help that? You see what I mean? That all it's 00:53:51.449 --> 00:53:53.250 going to do is drive them to the government to 00:53:53.250 --> 00:53:54.650 do something. And then they're going to bond 00:53:54.650 --> 00:53:57.670 and unify to make things worse. So it's literally 00:53:57.670 --> 00:54:01.469 the most dumbest idea to send $337 million worth 00:54:01.469 --> 00:54:04.530 of fucking bombs in the B -2 to bomb place that 00:54:04.530 --> 00:54:06.210 they're going to have up and running again in 00:54:06.210 --> 00:54:08.949 a couple of months. It wasn't obliterated. It 00:54:08.949 --> 00:54:10.730 wasn't ended. They didn't end it. They're going 00:54:10.730 --> 00:54:12.150 to be up and running again in a couple of months. 00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:16.110 And what this does is like they're killing civilians. 00:54:16.949 --> 00:54:21.050 Israel attacked Iran first. And they didn't expect 00:54:21.050 --> 00:54:23.510 them to fire back at this. And it's like, okay, 00:54:23.550 --> 00:54:25.489 game on. Let's go. And so they started lobbing 00:54:25.489 --> 00:54:27.750 back and forth. And we're the ones that stepped 00:54:27.750 --> 00:54:30.849 in. You know what I mean? And then the money 00:54:30.849 --> 00:54:34.889 that is spent on their defense on the Iron Dome 00:54:34.889 --> 00:54:38.110 is coming from us. If they want to go pick a 00:54:38.110 --> 00:54:39.750 fight with every country in the Middle East, 00:54:39.829 --> 00:54:42.190 let them. Go ahead. But let's stop funding them 00:54:42.190 --> 00:54:43.710 then at the same time. Let's see how far that 00:54:43.710 --> 00:54:47.099 goes. Let's see how far that goes. Once the funding 00:54:47.099 --> 00:54:48.699 for all that ends and they have to pay out of 00:54:48.699 --> 00:54:52.940 their own pocket, let's see how it goes. See, 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.920 this is something that just is so blatantly obvious. 00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.719 Even when we went into Iraq, I remember thinking, 00:54:59.820 --> 00:55:02.800 and I'm not well -versed in global politics, 00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:04.519 I'm not a military member, but I just remember 00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:06.900 going, wait a second, the guy that was responsible 00:55:06.900 --> 00:55:10.139 for 9 -11 is a Saudi guy hiding in Afghanistan, 00:55:10.300 --> 00:55:12.840 and you're going into Iraq where we had a war 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.340 with your dad. This doesn't make any sense. And 00:55:16.340 --> 00:55:18.099 we know, you know, the absolute tragedies that 00:55:18.099 --> 00:55:20.360 happened on, you know, both air quotes sides 00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.199 of that. And like you said, I shared a graphic 00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:27.400 of casualties of war a while ago, and it was 00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.480 just staggering because it starts off obviously 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.480 with combat casualties. And then the entire pie 00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:36.300 chart becomes basically, you know, suicides and 00:55:36.300 --> 00:55:38.360 cancers and all the things that our veterans 00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:40.519 bring back. It's the war isn't over in a lot 00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:43.329 of these places. But when you reflect, even let's 00:55:43.329 --> 00:55:46.789 take war out of it for a second. The last 50 00:55:46.789 --> 00:55:49.809 years, Americans have got fatter and sicker. 00:55:50.050 --> 00:55:54.050 We are to the point now, we are over 70 % obese 00:55:54.050 --> 00:55:57.289 or overweight. I think over 40 % obese, clinically 00:55:57.289 --> 00:56:01.570 obese. We consume 75 % of the world's opioids, 00:56:01.590 --> 00:56:04.150 even though we only make up 4 % of the world's 00:56:04.150 --> 00:56:08.210 population. We have, I think, over 20 % of the 00:56:08.210 --> 00:56:12.099 world's incarcerated population. Yeah, I think 00:56:12.099 --> 00:56:16.059 it was. Yeah, exactly. So my point is that is 00:56:16.059 --> 00:56:18.360 either side of the aisle over and over again, 00:56:18.460 --> 00:56:20.280 left, then right, then left, then right, then 00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.800 left, then right. And yet we're still fucking 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:26.719 arguing about who's the best party. The system 00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:29.219 is completely broken because in my opinion, if 00:56:29.219 --> 00:56:33.059 there's whatever, 330 million of us now in this 00:56:33.059 --> 00:56:36.559 country, if we have to say the lesser of two 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:40.380 evils on the final two of a presidential campaign. 00:56:41.099 --> 00:56:43.559 You don't think that's a broken system? Alan 00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:46.559 wants candidate A. I want candidate B. Alan's 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.440 won. I'm like, well, no biggie because they were 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.260 both fucking awesome because they're the two 00:56:51.260 --> 00:56:54.880 best leaders in the whole country. Instead, we 00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:58.599 get these fucking idiots, these sociopaths over 00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.860 and over again. And then you've got an overworked, 00:57:01.860 --> 00:57:04.619 sick, obese population that can't even critically 00:57:04.619 --> 00:57:07.239 think because they're stressed. They're made 00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.380 angry by CNN and Fox. And now they're divided. 00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:12.800 And now you've got, you know, as someone said 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:14.440 on the show recently, you've got a village of 00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:16.079 peasants fighting with each other instead of 00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:18.360 going, well, let's go into the fucking castle. 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:21.840 And so this is what blows me away is when are 00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.300 we going to have an awakening and go, this is 00:57:24.300 --> 00:57:27.420 not benefit in our people. Like our children 00:57:27.420 --> 00:57:30.280 have to rehearse their own fucking murders in 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:34.699 their school. you know we i mean all the things 00:57:34.699 --> 00:57:37.000 like this is not nothing that has been done is 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.280 benefiting the american people it's just take 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.099 take take take take oh we started a war american 00:57:42.099 --> 00:57:44.400 people we need your kids to go fight it for us 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.719 are your kids going oh fuck no we're not sending 00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.000 them over there like when are we going to finally 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.440 go the way we choose people is completely broken 00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:55.119 it's corrupt you're lining their pockets from 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.039 drug companies and weapons companies and all 00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:59.739 the other things and you know it's this just 00:58:00.250 --> 00:58:02.670 Like I say, it's not a democracy at all. It's 00:58:02.670 --> 00:58:04.489 a demistocracy. You've got to be a millionaire 00:58:04.489 --> 00:58:07.570 and zero ethics to succeed in this fucking system. 00:58:07.889 --> 00:58:11.489 So until we, the Americans, we the people, I 00:58:11.489 --> 00:58:13.190 think it was written in a document that was kind 00:58:13.190 --> 00:58:15.829 of important, rise the fuck up and say enough 00:58:15.829 --> 00:58:18.550 is enough, this is going to keep happening and 00:58:18.550 --> 00:58:20.489 families and neighbors are going to fight with 00:58:20.489 --> 00:58:23.769 each other while these people send our children 00:58:23.769 --> 00:58:26.789 to their deaths and count the money that they 00:58:26.789 --> 00:58:31.869 get from it. You're absolutely right. It's an 00:58:31.869 --> 00:58:35.030 illusion that we have a choice. And then people 00:58:35.030 --> 00:58:38.849 scream freedom. Well, we're actually what I think 00:58:38.849 --> 00:58:42.989 the last rating that I saw is that the U .S. 00:58:42.989 --> 00:58:46.909 is 17th in the world or 11th in the world for 00:58:46.909 --> 00:58:50.969 freedom. Right. And people just keep thinking 00:58:50.969 --> 00:58:53.590 and they want to believe this rhetoric of my 00:58:53.590 --> 00:58:57.849 side is the good side. Well. I can, if Trump 00:58:57.849 --> 00:59:00.510 actually did something that was good, beneficial 00:59:00.510 --> 00:59:04.150 for the people, you know, I would say, yeah, 00:59:04.170 --> 00:59:06.690 he did something beneficial for the people. If 00:59:06.690 --> 00:59:11.309 Biden or Obama or Clinton, you know, they did 00:59:11.309 --> 00:59:13.449 things that's good for the people, I would say, 00:59:13.730 --> 00:59:16.050 yeah, they did. If they did something horrible 00:59:16.050 --> 00:59:18.590 for the people, then like prison reform from 00:59:18.590 --> 00:59:21.050 the Clinton, that was fucking horrible. Right. 00:59:21.110 --> 00:59:22.909 The three strikes you're out that that led to 00:59:22.909 --> 00:59:24.869 this whole prison problem that we have right 00:59:24.869 --> 00:59:26.969 now. That was the catalyst for it. His fucking 00:59:26.969 --> 00:59:30.590 policy. You know, the the 10 or excuse me, the 00:59:30.590 --> 00:59:32.510 10 years, three point four billion dollars a 00:59:32.510 --> 00:59:35.989 year to Israel. That was signed by Obama. But 00:59:35.989 --> 00:59:39.909 there's so many like but it's it's so easy to 00:59:39.909 --> 00:59:41.869 deflect to saying these are the people that are 00:59:41.869 --> 00:59:43.789 bad. These are people are bad. And the thing 00:59:43.789 --> 00:59:46.409 is, is that I'm hiding it. We have, you know, 00:59:46.409 --> 00:59:48.809 Trump that it's in the front lawn, you know, 00:59:48.809 --> 00:59:52.219 doing an infomercial for a car. He has his NFTs. 00:59:53.500 --> 00:59:56.300 His family is literally making money hand over 00:59:56.300 --> 00:59:58.920 fist. And we're not calling that out. And they're 00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:02.079 like, oh, well, you just have TDS. No, you dumb 01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:04.079 motherfucker. I'm literally calling out exactly 01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:05.679 what's happening here. You know what I mean? 01:00:05.780 --> 01:00:08.199 If he's selling gold shoes and Bibles that were 01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.159 made in China, don't you think there's something 01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:13.840 wrong on that? His Trump phone. You know what 01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:16.199 I mean? He's literally making money. I'm like, 01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:18.179 oh, that's okay. I'm like, how is that okay? 01:00:18.750 --> 01:00:20.510 You were literally pissed off for like, you know, 01:00:20.510 --> 01:00:23.090 the damn laptop they were talking about because 01:00:23.090 --> 01:00:25.269 he was making money. And the thing is, I'm like, 01:00:25.369 --> 01:00:27.090 yeah, if he's doing something illegal, by all 01:00:27.090 --> 01:00:28.329 means, what are you going to do with that? You've 01:00:28.329 --> 01:00:30.730 had the laptop for five years. What are you going 01:00:30.730 --> 01:00:32.730 to do with it now? You know what I mean? Do something. 01:00:32.969 --> 01:00:34.590 And if you really want to get him out of office, 01:00:34.670 --> 01:00:36.349 why don't you commit him like what the UN has 01:00:36.349 --> 01:00:38.389 said? You're complicit in fucking genocide. Why 01:00:38.389 --> 01:00:40.110 don't you get him for that? Well, you know, that 01:00:40.110 --> 01:00:42.670 that has to do with Israel. So we have to back 01:00:42.670 --> 01:00:44.809 up. No, that's literally something you can go 01:00:44.809 --> 01:00:46.989 after or impeach him for that. Let's do that. 01:00:47.309 --> 01:00:49.690 And now it's all behind it. But everyone got 01:00:49.690 --> 01:00:51.510 quiet. Everyone got quiet after that. Like, oh, 01:00:51.570 --> 01:00:55.230 no, no. Well, you know, he's a pedophile. Like, 01:00:55.250 --> 01:00:56.969 dude, you see what he said about his daughter? 01:00:57.909 --> 01:00:59.449 You know what I mean? And he doesn't even hide 01:00:59.449 --> 01:01:01.789 this shit. That's the thing is that, you know, 01:01:01.809 --> 01:01:03.409 we literally have a convicted felon that's there 01:01:03.409 --> 01:01:04.989 and they're like, and he's more for the people. 01:01:06.349 --> 01:01:08.409 It's just, and again, I think just people just 01:01:08.409 --> 01:01:11.050 double down because their identity. has become 01:01:11.050 --> 01:01:13.210 their or their ideology has become their identity 01:01:13.210 --> 01:01:14.869 and it's become infused and so all of a sudden 01:01:14.869 --> 01:01:16.889 that they can't be they can't be told that they're 01:01:16.889 --> 01:01:21.690 wrong you know and you know back to your you 01:01:21.690 --> 01:01:23.449 know the two -party system i think that's probably 01:01:23.449 --> 01:01:26.010 one of the biggest things that's wrong um i was 01:01:26.010 --> 01:01:32.190 in germany um a few months ago and um they have 01:01:32.190 --> 01:01:34.389 11 parties and they're all like neck and neck 01:01:34.389 --> 01:01:36.650 that's that's the choice you know what i mean 01:01:36.650 --> 01:01:39.739 that's choice you can actually pick for you have 01:01:39.739 --> 01:01:42.719 like a a choice between different diverse groups 01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:46.460 and we have two you know i mean and most of the 01:01:46.460 --> 01:01:48.119 time they're tied to the same people the same 01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:50.199 lobbyists that look out for their own their own 01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:52.699 pockets i think that's one of the biggest problems 01:01:52.699 --> 01:01:54.840 is that if you can make money while you're actually 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.940 and it shouldn't be just a conflict of interest 01:01:56.940 --> 01:02:00.119 it should be fucking illegal bottom line So if 01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:03.119 I had my say in it 10 years, from the time that 01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:05.340 you're actually like you're going, you're running, 01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:07.139 like you put out on the ballot saying, yeah, 01:02:07.179 --> 01:02:10.099 I'm going to nominate so -and -so and you accept 01:02:10.099 --> 01:02:12.820 that nomination. From that point on, you cannot 01:02:12.820 --> 01:02:15.099 make money outside of like what you're doing, 01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.599 you know, for 10 years after you get an office, 01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:21.099 period. You have to sign a contract, not just 01:02:21.099 --> 01:02:23.980 by the time that you're in, but the entire time, 01:02:23.980 --> 01:02:26.360 like after you're out for 10 years. If you want 01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:27.940 to write a book and everything else, 10 years 01:02:27.940 --> 01:02:30.219 after. People got to wait. If they're still interested 01:02:30.219 --> 01:02:32.860 in it, they'll buy it. But all this shit that 01:02:32.860 --> 01:02:35.219 we're doing right now is they're literally making 01:02:35.219 --> 01:02:38.099 money while they're in office. And I'm talking 01:02:38.099 --> 01:02:40.840 about both sides on this. We have shitbags like 01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:43.579 the Cash for Kids. Those are two Democrat judges. 01:02:44.059 --> 01:02:46.099 You know what I mean? And they were making money 01:02:46.099 --> 01:02:49.920 hand over fist by sending fucking kids to juvenile 01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:53.539 detention centers to profit the private prison 01:02:53.539 --> 01:02:56.889 system. I remember seeing the mother of one of 01:02:56.889 --> 01:03:00.110 the kids. He was he was raped while he was in 01:03:00.110 --> 01:03:02.730 jail and in the juvenile detention, whatever 01:03:02.730 --> 01:03:06.170 you call it, freaking prison. And he couldn't 01:03:06.170 --> 01:03:08.969 take it. You know, when he got out, he just he 01:03:08.969 --> 01:03:11.489 snapped. He was a kid. You know what I mean? 01:03:11.510 --> 01:03:13.469 And committed suicide. That mother was livid. 01:03:13.489 --> 01:03:16.269 She was going off on these guys. And I was just 01:03:16.269 --> 01:03:18.570 cheering her on, fucking standing up applause. 01:03:19.150 --> 01:03:22.170 Go get him. The worst part about it is that they 01:03:22.170 --> 01:03:24.929 got pardoned. They got fucking pardoned. And 01:03:24.929 --> 01:03:25.989 you know where they were spending their time 01:03:25.989 --> 01:03:27.610 because they did get convicted of it. They were 01:03:27.610 --> 01:03:30.849 out on fucking house arrest. How are these people 01:03:30.849 --> 01:03:33.190 like this is what I don't get about our system. 01:03:33.250 --> 01:03:34.929 It's literally designed to benefit the rich. 01:03:35.030 --> 01:03:37.409 But we don't see that because it's bread and 01:03:37.409 --> 01:03:39.969 circus. Right. If you distract them with their 01:03:39.969 --> 01:03:41.769 necessities, they're going to forget about their 01:03:41.769 --> 01:03:47.429 liberties. It's it's period. Honestly, I don't 01:03:47.429 --> 01:03:49.909 get it. And then we kind of point to the outside 01:03:49.909 --> 01:03:52.679 point somewhere else, point somewhere else. And 01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:57.840 Memorial Day, the post that Trump gave, Happy 01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:01.679 Memorial Day, including all the left -side scumbags. 01:04:03.179 --> 01:04:05.380 And he literally went on this two -paragraph 01:04:05.380 --> 01:04:07.300 rant. It had nothing to do with Memorial Day. 01:04:07.340 --> 01:04:09.239 It was literally just insulting the left -hand, 01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:12.159 the progressives, and all these things. How is 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:13.820 that? And then they're like, oh, well, it's the 01:04:13.820 --> 01:04:19.139 left that doesn't want unity. He's trying. How? 01:04:19.789 --> 01:04:21.869 It's like literally every public post has to 01:04:21.869 --> 01:04:24.469 do with the fake news. And saying that, you know, 01:04:24.489 --> 01:04:28.269 he was saying like the last one, like, how dare 01:04:28.269 --> 01:04:30.750 you say that to me? And remember the interview 01:04:30.750 --> 01:04:35.610 with the MS -13? No, it's not Photoshopped. No, 01:04:36.050 --> 01:04:39.590 no, it's real. It's real. Well, Mr. President, 01:04:39.610 --> 01:04:41.750 I'm saying, you know, we can discuss that later, 01:04:41.809 --> 01:04:43.809 but moving on. And he's literally trying to save 01:04:43.809 --> 01:04:45.590 his ass and he's doubling down on it, saying, 01:04:45.670 --> 01:04:47.929 no, that's real. That's a tattoo that's on there. 01:04:47.989 --> 01:04:51.000 It's like. Times New Roman font or whatever, 01:04:51.179 --> 01:04:54.739 or Microsoft font. And it's like, and it just 01:04:54.739 --> 01:04:57.699 doesn't get it. But people double down on it, 01:04:57.780 --> 01:05:00.079 you know, or they don't want to read things or 01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:01.679 they don't want to understand things that, you 01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:04.980 know, if you say like bring up any type of policies, 01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.079 any type of, you know, executive orders, you 01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:08.900 know, people know like just what they're fed 01:05:08.900 --> 01:05:11.199 and that's it. You know, this whole immigration 01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:14.320 thing. I'm not an immigration lawyer by any means, 01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:16.019 but I can read the fucking constitution. I know 01:05:16.019 --> 01:05:17.539 that violates the fifth and the 14th amendment 01:05:17.539 --> 01:05:19.800 because it says all persons on us soil have right 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.559 to due process. Bottom line. You know what I 01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:25.119 mean? And I'm not the type of person that, that 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.760 I, if someone's had due process in the here legally, 01:05:27.900 --> 01:05:29.920 yeah, you need to get them the fuck out. They 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:31.659 can try again some other time and do it right, 01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.599 but they've had due process and they've done 01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:36.719 if they're criminals and violent criminals, especially, 01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:39.800 but why in the fuck are we going after people? 01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:42.519 that are in the immigration office waiting for 01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:43.820 their appointment and they're getting snatched 01:05:43.820 --> 01:05:46.599 up. That to me doesn't make any sense, especially 01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:51.139 with Stephen Himmler, that little fucking vermin, 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:56.079 right? Or Stephen Miller, sorry. He bought like 01:05:56.079 --> 01:06:00.179 $100 ,000 in Palantir, the technology that they're 01:06:00.179 --> 01:06:02.699 using right now to target these people. And if 01:06:02.699 --> 01:06:04.579 you're getting them at these courthouses, if 01:06:04.579 --> 01:06:06.300 you're getting them at the immigration courts, 01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.320 this is the problem. There are people that are 01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:11.769 trying to go, and through the system legally 01:06:11.769 --> 01:06:13.969 to do the right thing. And they're literally 01:06:13.969 --> 01:06:16.369 getting picked up there. And the worst part about 01:06:16.369 --> 01:06:17.949 it is, is they're defending like covering up. 01:06:18.050 --> 01:06:20.750 And now we have the surge of kids getting kidnapped, 01:06:20.829 --> 01:06:23.150 of people getting robbed because they're just 01:06:23.150 --> 01:06:26.050 imitating ICE agents. Because the ICE agent is 01:06:26.050 --> 01:06:27.550 saying, oh, I don't have to give you that. I 01:06:27.550 --> 01:06:28.849 don't have to give you a warrant. I don't have 01:06:28.849 --> 01:06:30.369 to give you identification. I don't have to give 01:06:30.369 --> 01:06:32.849 nothing. So what stops all these people from 01:06:32.849 --> 01:06:34.469 doing the same thing? We're going to have a sharp 01:06:34.469 --> 01:06:36.829 rise in this. It's just being kept really quiet. 01:06:37.250 --> 01:06:39.630 But it's already happening. It's already happening. 01:06:39.750 --> 01:06:42.510 And look how easy this is. I'm an ICE agent. 01:06:42.590 --> 01:06:44.630 I don't have to give you shit. How easy is it 01:06:44.630 --> 01:06:48.989 to get a plate carrier, a mask, and a gun? You 01:06:48.989 --> 01:06:50.789 know what I mean? And so they're just loading 01:06:50.789 --> 01:06:52.130 them up. They're picking them up at schools. 01:06:52.489 --> 01:06:55.670 I've already had instances of this. How are people 01:06:55.670 --> 01:06:58.489 defending this? It boggles my mind. I'm just 01:06:58.489 --> 01:07:01.849 blown away by this. I don't understand. If someone 01:07:01.849 --> 01:07:03.929 could please explain this to me, I would be willing 01:07:03.929 --> 01:07:06.679 to listen. and just shut my mouth and listen 01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:09.699 to it please explain this to me somebody i don't 01:07:09.699 --> 01:07:13.260 get it when i worked in california anaheim i 01:07:13.260 --> 01:07:15.699 always i'd never forget this um i was sitting 01:07:15.699 --> 01:07:18.619 at the the table that morning and people were 01:07:18.619 --> 01:07:21.380 talking about oh the fucking mexicans and you 01:07:21.380 --> 01:07:22.980 know and these are firefighters these are good 01:07:22.980 --> 01:07:25.519 men in their heart but they've been drawn into 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:27.679 what we're talking about this propaganda in this 01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:31.079 case it was the fox news propaganda And, you 01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:32.679 know, the fucking illegals, blah, blah, blah. 01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:35.559 And then I shit you not, in the same fucking 01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:37.719 conversation, I'd say, well, what are you up 01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:39.659 to today? Oh, I'm going to go down Home Depot 01:07:39.659 --> 01:07:41.300 and get myself some Mexicans to help me hang 01:07:41.300 --> 01:07:45.559 drywall. And I'm like, are you fucking joking? 01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:49.880 This is the problem. You have this complete double 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:52.340 standard. And I was thinking the other day, just 01:07:52.340 --> 01:07:54.219 it's going to be crude, but it is what it is. 01:07:54.699 --> 01:07:59.780 Like, if anyone should be but her about. illegal 01:07:59.780 --> 01:08:03.019 immigrations, it's someone like me who paid a 01:08:03.019 --> 01:08:05.940 lot of money to immigrate the air quotes right 01:08:05.940 --> 01:08:09.320 way. Because if you think about it, my son, for 01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:12.059 example, all he did to be an American was be 01:08:12.059 --> 01:08:14.820 born through his mother's vagina. Zero effort. 01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:17.260 He just bloop. That was it. You know, he could 01:08:17.260 --> 01:08:18.979 have been Sudan, could have been Syria. He won 01:08:18.979 --> 01:08:21.579 the fucking jackpot and landed in Newport Beach, 01:08:21.619 --> 01:08:25.090 California. I had to go jump through the hoops, 01:08:25.109 --> 01:08:27.550 do AIDS tests, do background tests, you know, 01:08:27.550 --> 01:08:30.149 show that I had X amount of money. But then I 01:08:30.149 --> 01:08:33.729 came from England. So I wasn't escaping, you 01:08:33.729 --> 01:08:36.470 know, genocide or, you know, wasn't getting, 01:08:36.510 --> 01:08:38.689 you know, the threat of honor killings or acid 01:08:38.689 --> 01:08:40.630 thrown in my face or anything else that some 01:08:40.630 --> 01:08:42.710 of these people, you know, escaping the Haitian 01:08:42.710 --> 01:08:46.149 gangs that maybe don't have all this money at 01:08:46.149 --> 01:08:49.930 their fingertips to do it the right way. But 01:08:49.930 --> 01:08:53.579 you look at the backbone of America. It is immigrants. 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.020 Some of them came from England and went through 01:08:56.020 --> 01:08:59.060 the correct red tape way and became firefighters 01:08:59.060 --> 01:09:01.600 like I did. And some of them had to kind of do 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:04.199 the backdoor thing and they became amazing, productive 01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:07.239 members of society. And I was their responder 01:09:07.239 --> 01:09:09.760 for a long time because Anaheim has a very large 01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:12.479 Mexican population. Hialeah, Florida, another 01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:15.079 place I work, very large Cuban population. Usually 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:17.760 it's the first place people come legally or illegally. 01:09:17.859 --> 01:09:20.439 That's where they land. And these are people 01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:23.489 that are working every day. So just like you, 01:09:23.569 --> 01:09:26.390 again, it's that middle common sense ground. 01:09:26.550 --> 01:09:28.930 If someone's coming here and they already have 01:09:28.930 --> 01:09:31.909 a bad background and or they've done something 01:09:31.909 --> 01:09:35.050 horrible here, no one is questioning that they 01:09:35.050 --> 01:09:37.750 get flung the fuck out of this country. But if 01:09:37.750 --> 01:09:39.670 they've come here, like we've seen, I saw one, 01:09:39.750 --> 01:09:42.090 I think if I've got this right, he's from South 01:09:42.090 --> 01:09:45.010 Korea originally, Purple Heart recipient under 01:09:45.010 --> 01:09:48.250 the U .S. Yeah, and just got fucking deported. 01:09:48.630 --> 01:09:52.539 Yeah, it was in Nicaragua. So this is my point, 01:09:52.619 --> 01:09:54.920 is that we've got people that have proven themselves. 01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:58.239 And what is the disadvantage of saying, we're 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.479 going to grandfather you in. Now you start paying 01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:02.479 taxes. Now you don't have to hide and run from 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:06.000 anyone anymore. And now you are a bona fide American. 01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:08.539 But it's that middle ground, because when you 01:10:08.539 --> 01:10:11.819 push extremism left and right over and over again, 01:10:12.020 --> 01:10:14.479 people lose the ability to critically think and 01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:17.640 go, oh, that guy was MS -13, like genuinely, 01:10:17.739 --> 01:10:21.189 not Photoshop. He's going back to El Salvador. 01:10:21.470 --> 01:10:24.090 This guy's worked in the farms in America for 01:10:24.090 --> 01:10:26.770 the last 15 years, and his child is now doing 01:10:26.770 --> 01:10:29.229 really well in middle school. We can keep that 01:10:29.229 --> 01:10:31.529 family here. I don't understand why people can't 01:10:31.529 --> 01:10:34.630 separate those two purely common sense ways of 01:10:34.630 --> 01:10:40.289 looking at this. And again, the rights and protections 01:10:40.289 --> 01:10:42.489 that the Constitution allows once you're on U 01:10:42.489 --> 01:10:46.310 .S. soil, the right to free speech. You can be 01:10:46.310 --> 01:10:48.710 a tourist. You're still granted if you're on 01:10:48.710 --> 01:10:51.010 U .S. soil. You don't understand that you still 01:10:51.010 --> 01:10:52.729 have the right to freedom of speech. You have 01:10:52.729 --> 01:10:55.210 these these these rights that are given to you 01:10:55.210 --> 01:10:59.350 while you're on U .S. soil. You know, again, 01:10:59.510 --> 01:11:03.149 due process. If if if somebody comes here and 01:11:03.149 --> 01:11:05.569 they're accused of a crime, they have the right 01:11:05.569 --> 01:11:09.609 to due process to defend themselves. Right. And 01:11:09.609 --> 01:11:12.710 this is what I think aggravates people is, you 01:11:12.710 --> 01:11:15.069 know, they're like, why don't you use the worst 01:11:15.069 --> 01:11:17.850 thing? Go back to where you came from. You know 01:11:17.850 --> 01:11:21.329 what I mean? And the thing is, is like what burns 01:11:21.329 --> 01:11:23.930 me up is that we had sixteen hundred Afghans 01:11:23.930 --> 01:11:28.210 that helped U .S. forces, that we were condemning, 01:11:28.210 --> 01:11:30.670 you know, Biden for leaving some of them behind, 01:11:30.869 --> 01:11:34.430 that we literally fucking kicked them back. You 01:11:34.430 --> 01:11:36.529 know what I mean? We ended their protection and 01:11:36.529 --> 01:11:38.430 they're going back. What do you think is going 01:11:38.430 --> 01:11:40.829 to happen to them? And these are the people that 01:11:40.829 --> 01:11:43.470 put themselves and their families on the line 01:11:43.470 --> 01:11:46.229 and they made it out. And they thought they were 01:11:46.229 --> 01:11:49.569 safe. And now they're saying, nope, you're you're 01:11:49.569 --> 01:11:52.289 out. You're going back. You had a bunch of Haitians 01:11:52.289 --> 01:11:55.470 that were that are literally they went through 01:11:55.470 --> 01:11:58.149 the process. They have their constitutional protections 01:11:58.149 --> 01:12:00.890 and they're being stripped of it. These are people 01:12:00.890 --> 01:12:03.550 that are hardworking immigrants. You know what 01:12:03.550 --> 01:12:06.010 I mean? And they've been this the whole fucking 01:12:06.010 --> 01:12:09.069 lie about, you know, they're our pets. I mean, 01:12:09.090 --> 01:12:11.550 it was a joke, but it's not a joke anymore when 01:12:11.550 --> 01:12:14.079 you're actually deporting people like that. And 01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.319 it's disgusting. It's vile. I don't understand 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:19.640 this. I just, it's, it's, it's the same playbook 01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:23.539 that's been used for, and people kind of like 01:12:23.539 --> 01:12:26.359 constantly go back to like Nazis, but literally 01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:28.960 that was the entire playbook to blame the immigrants, 01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:35.520 to blame them for that. You know, there's, it's, 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:39.560 it's unbelievable how people are so easily manipulated 01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:42.409 to believe something. And like, oh, well, just 01:12:42.409 --> 01:12:46.090 like Sanjun Park, right? He was a Nicaragua Purple 01:12:46.090 --> 01:12:53.569 Heart recipient, been in for 50 years. His drug, 01:12:53.829 --> 01:12:56.750 he had like a misdemeanor about like a drug addiction 01:12:56.750 --> 01:13:00.409 that was related to his PTSD. You know what I 01:13:00.409 --> 01:13:03.770 mean? So the system failed him on that. You know 01:13:03.770 --> 01:13:07.319 what I mean? And why can't we just like... What's 01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:09.880 he going to do in Korea? He doesn't even speak 01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:11.920 the language. He's just he's been here for 50 01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:14.920 years. You know, and that's the thing is that, 01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:17.100 you know, my father was an immigrant. He came 01:13:17.100 --> 01:13:19.300 here and he went into the Air Force. He got his 01:13:19.300 --> 01:13:22.460 you know, he got naturalized and he got a citizenship. 01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:24.260 And he's been where he worked for the government 01:13:24.260 --> 01:13:27.119 for 26 years. You know what I mean? And he's 01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:31.680 about as a patriot as anyone else. And he he 01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:34.810 literally put his anyone that says. I will put 01:13:34.810 --> 01:13:38.170 my life on the line for this country should definitely 01:13:38.170 --> 01:13:40.310 have like, OK, let's let's pump the brakes a 01:13:40.310 --> 01:13:42.470 second. Let's see what's going on. But they're 01:13:42.470 --> 01:13:44.649 not doing it. You know what I mean? They're literally 01:13:44.649 --> 01:13:47.729 going in like you can deport yourself or we can 01:13:47.729 --> 01:13:50.550 do it for you. You have like two weeks. It's 01:13:50.550 --> 01:13:54.989 it's insane. How are we not like separating these 01:13:54.989 --> 01:13:57.310 two? And it's literally like and again, I'm going 01:13:57.310 --> 01:13:59.670 back to, you know, the people that that are trying 01:13:59.670 --> 01:14:03.479 to do the right thing. And in court, in immigration 01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:05.000 court, and they're literally picking them off 01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:06.539 from there because they have a quota to make. 01:14:07.180 --> 01:14:09.300 And this is the same piece of shit that's profiting 01:14:09.300 --> 01:14:12.539 off of it. He's doubled his stocks. They have 01:14:12.539 --> 01:14:15.880 proof of him. The Rolling Stones came out with 01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:18.359 an article just, I think, two days ago about 01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:20.560 him investing in Palance here before this whole 01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:24.539 thing started. And I don't understand it, man. 01:14:25.060 --> 01:14:30.420 Again, I'm not the smartest guy, but please explain 01:14:30.420 --> 01:14:36.350 it to me. How does this benefit our society in 01:14:36.350 --> 01:14:38.449 a whole? You know what I mean? Because that's 01:14:38.449 --> 01:14:41.050 what it's supposed to do. But you have farmers 01:14:41.050 --> 01:14:45.189 that are losing their workers that have been 01:14:45.189 --> 01:14:48.050 working there for decades. And then because of 01:14:48.050 --> 01:14:50.029 the tariffs, they're not buying the soybeans. 01:14:50.250 --> 01:14:54.310 The USA has cut off their assistance for that. 01:14:54.869 --> 01:14:59.930 So we have like the heart of... of the American 01:14:59.930 --> 01:15:02.310 society, you know, there are farmers that are 01:15:02.310 --> 01:15:05.449 struggling now that are affected directly, but 01:15:05.449 --> 01:15:07.189 everyone just kind of ignores it. Like, ah, well, 01:15:07.289 --> 01:15:09.470 it's because of that. Because everyone has this 01:15:09.470 --> 01:15:11.569 tiny little bubble. And if it doesn't affect 01:15:11.569 --> 01:15:13.689 them in that bubble, well, they don't give a 01:15:13.689 --> 01:15:16.869 shit. Right? These damn immigrants. Guess what, 01:15:16.909 --> 01:15:19.270 motherfucker? You're an immigrant too. This entire 01:15:19.270 --> 01:15:22.189 country, the entire country that is built off 01:15:22.189 --> 01:15:25.710 of immigrants. Some that didn't have a choice 01:15:25.710 --> 01:15:29.409 and some that did. And the ones that did, especially 01:15:29.409 --> 01:15:31.810 like they're escaping something, most of the 01:15:31.810 --> 01:15:34.529 time it's from countries that we had destabilized 01:15:34.529 --> 01:15:36.590 and put a dictator to serve our interests for 01:15:36.590 --> 01:15:40.109 those corporations. South America, all these 01:15:40.109 --> 01:15:43.170 people, guess what? We fucked with them too. 01:15:44.069 --> 01:15:46.510 We have like in the Middle East, we had Iraqis, 01:15:46.510 --> 01:15:49.850 Iranians, Lebanese, Palestinians. Guess what? 01:15:49.890 --> 01:15:54.840 We had a hand in all of that. Why is it that 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:57.020 people have such short -term memory that they 01:15:57.020 --> 01:16:00.819 can't understand this? And again, we both are 01:16:00.819 --> 01:16:02.479 in agreement on this. We both understand this 01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:06.359 fully. We both agree that if you have gone through 01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:08.359 your due process, you have done something illegal, 01:16:08.460 --> 01:16:10.439 you have done something in violent crime, that 01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:12.479 it's not going to benefit society. You need to 01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:15.500 get the fuck out. And yeah, go get them. They 01:16:15.500 --> 01:16:18.640 need to go by all means. Clean yourself up. Try 01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:21.699 it again. Whatever you need to do. But don't 01:16:21.699 --> 01:16:23.750 come here illegally. By all means, because you've 01:16:23.750 --> 01:16:26.710 had your due process. And I think no one that 01:16:26.710 --> 01:16:32.409 I've talked to that's on this topic of immigration, 01:16:32.789 --> 01:16:37.970 on either side is arguing that. But the only 01:16:37.970 --> 01:16:40.369 difference is that I'm saying, and most of the 01:16:40.369 --> 01:16:43.470 people that I talk to that agree with me, they 01:16:43.470 --> 01:16:46.029 were talking about just giving them due process, 01:16:46.210 --> 01:16:48.989 right? That's the big thing. Just allowing them 01:16:48.989 --> 01:16:51.170 to have due process and let them have their time 01:16:51.170 --> 01:16:53.170 in court to do that. And especially if they came 01:16:53.170 --> 01:16:55.449 here and they went through the system, they're 01:16:55.449 --> 01:16:57.729 going through the system. And then they're saying 01:16:57.729 --> 01:16:59.409 like, oh, they're waving flags for countries. 01:16:59.609 --> 01:17:02.750 Go back to that. Guess what? I was in D .C. last 01:17:02.750 --> 01:17:05.329 year and I walked through like where all these 01:17:05.329 --> 01:17:07.489 politicians have their offices and I see fucking 01:17:07.489 --> 01:17:09.270 Israeli flags and go fucking over there then. 01:17:09.569 --> 01:17:13.810 Fuck off. But let's say like, again, you're promoting 01:17:13.810 --> 01:17:16.310 a fucking country that is committing genocide 01:17:16.310 --> 01:17:18.470 and you're. posting that up there and it's literally 01:17:18.470 --> 01:17:22.609 taking from taxpayer money to fund and you're 01:17:22.609 --> 01:17:24.829 posting it and this motherfucker what's that 01:17:24.829 --> 01:17:27.130 guy's name that they showed up in a in a foreign 01:17:27.130 --> 01:17:31.930 fucking military uniform and he's and he's supposed 01:17:31.930 --> 01:17:34.270 to be how's he representing his fucking constituents 01:17:34.270 --> 01:17:37.250 he's wearing a fucking idf uniform dude stupid 01:17:37.250 --> 01:17:39.949 fuck i mean honestly that that infuriates me 01:17:39.949 --> 01:17:43.170 because how the fuck does that that help anything 01:17:43.170 --> 01:17:47.510 that's happening with the u .s benefiting our 01:17:47.510 --> 01:17:52.189 society wearing a foreign military uniform it's 01:17:52.189 --> 01:17:55.170 horseshit it doesn't make any sense he should 01:17:55.170 --> 01:18:01.390 be fucking deported not fucking parked when i 01:18:01.390 --> 01:18:03.609 look back at what happened during covid again 01:18:03.609 --> 01:18:07.029 which spans two you know parties democrat uh 01:18:07.029 --> 01:18:10.270 was it i think trump initially and then um biden 01:18:10.270 --> 01:18:14.369 after that again it's the same thing I mean, 01:18:14.390 --> 01:18:16.789 you couldn't have seen a more divisive time than, 01:18:16.850 --> 01:18:21.829 you know, 2020, 2021. And I remember, again, 01:18:21.970 --> 01:18:24.409 standing in the middle going, what the fuck is 01:18:24.409 --> 01:18:26.649 going on? And, you know, again, someone asked 01:18:26.649 --> 01:18:29.109 me why my Instagram was shut down. I just reconnected 01:18:29.109 --> 01:18:31.510 with Julian Pano on there. And I was like, well, 01:18:31.609 --> 01:18:33.569 because I stood in the middle. And that's the 01:18:33.569 --> 01:18:35.689 most censored voice in America is the common 01:18:35.689 --> 01:18:37.489 sense person that just stands in the fucking 01:18:37.489 --> 01:18:39.210 middle looking left and right going, what the 01:18:39.210 --> 01:18:41.479 hell is going on? Honestly, that's the one that 01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:43.239 gets shadow banned all the time and shut down. 01:18:43.420 --> 01:18:46.119 You can put porn and violence and extremism on 01:18:46.119 --> 01:18:47.840 social media and you'll get all kinds of fucking 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:50.300 ratings. You know, you sell all kinds of books. 01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.199 You write a book on kindness and compassion and 01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:56.840 community. Good luck. I tried it. But, you know, 01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:59.279 it's the same that there was one truth in COVID. 01:19:00.180 --> 01:19:03.119 The healthier the population, the higher the 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:06.039 chances of that population surviving a virus, 01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:08.699 period. Whether you believe it was a Chinese 01:19:08.699 --> 01:19:11.359 conspiracy, whether you believe it was something 01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:13.579 that only bubble wrap and a vaccine was going 01:19:13.579 --> 01:19:16.520 to get you out of, the truth is the healthier 01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:18.680 the human, the higher the survival rate, period. 01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:23.539 So if either side gave a fuck about the health 01:19:23.539 --> 01:19:27.279 of this population, if not before, certainly 01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:30.930 during and after COVID. we would have seen soda 01:19:30.930 --> 01:19:33.569 machines ripped out of schools, real food being 01:19:33.569 --> 01:19:36.510 cooked in cafeterias, PE programs and sports 01:19:36.510 --> 01:19:39.310 programs and music and drama being boosted back 01:19:39.310 --> 01:19:42.649 in schools, pedestrianizations of downtowns, 01:19:42.649 --> 01:19:45.409 public transport being boosted, all the thing, 01:19:45.449 --> 01:19:48.090 local farmers being given subsidies rather than 01:19:48.090 --> 01:19:50.989 these mega farms to create organic food and grass 01:19:50.989 --> 01:19:55.590 fed livestock, nothing. Not a fucking thing. 01:19:55.729 --> 01:19:58.229 So it was never about the health of the American 01:19:58.229 --> 01:20:01.189 people. If we wanted to address the mental health 01:20:01.189 --> 01:20:04.029 crisis and the addiction, then we would remove 01:20:04.029 --> 01:20:08.609 the ridiculous failed prohibition of drugs. And 01:20:08.609 --> 01:20:11.050 we would see like Portugal and we put it into 01:20:11.050 --> 01:20:13.250 the medical community and we'd put in mental 01:20:13.250 --> 01:20:15.189 health counseling, addiction counseling, job 01:20:15.189 --> 01:20:18.329 creation, housing and get these men and women 01:20:18.329 --> 01:20:21.659 back on their feet. So they were paying back 01:20:21.659 --> 01:20:23.399 into the country. They're a productive member 01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:26.840 of society. So it was never about us. It has 01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.779 never been about us. And until we have that awakening 01:20:29.779 --> 01:20:33.159 that no matter what color you adorn yourself 01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:37.039 with every four years, they don't give a shit. 01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:39.119 And if you just take a step back, I used to teach 01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.220 my son this. My whole parenting thing was about, 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:46.060 is it kind? whether he was having a tantrum and 01:20:46.060 --> 01:20:47.899 throwing his toys, whether it was the way he 01:20:47.899 --> 01:20:49.500 was interacting with another kid, whatever it 01:20:49.500 --> 01:20:53.180 is, is what you're doing kind. And that helped, 01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:55.560 I hope, raise a pretty sweet young man that's 01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:58.699 about to turn 18 now. It's the same thing. Whatever 01:20:58.699 --> 01:21:02.579 you hear, is this A, going to benefit the country, 01:21:02.699 --> 01:21:07.060 or B, going to be detrimental? And so you are 01:21:07.060 --> 01:21:09.100 going to take a step back and realize, oh, shit. 01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:11.420 None of these fucking people actually have done 01:21:11.420 --> 01:21:14.680 anything that really benefits us. The communities, 01:21:14.699 --> 01:21:17.199 the people, the schools, the health, the farms, 01:21:17.340 --> 01:21:20.439 the quality of air, et cetera, et cetera. And 01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:23.140 until we have that awakening, then you reap what 01:21:23.140 --> 01:21:25.220 you sow. You're going to get the same shit bag 01:21:25.220 --> 01:21:27.420 every fucking four years with a different colored 01:21:27.420 --> 01:21:32.760 tie giving you the same bollocks. Yep. You're 01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:34.640 absolutely right. And I think one of the things 01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:36.840 that add on to that is just we've been led to 01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:39.100 believe that. And I think this is one of the 01:21:39.100 --> 01:21:41.220 most detrimental things in our society is, is 01:21:41.220 --> 01:21:44.079 empathy is a weakness. You know, I mean, that, 01:21:44.220 --> 01:21:48.899 that is the, in order to understand what's happening, 01:21:48.899 --> 01:21:51.819 you have to, those are the two things that I 01:21:51.819 --> 01:21:54.000 think is missing is understanding and empathy. 01:21:55.979 --> 01:22:01.319 But we've, we've become a society that not all 01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:06.760 by any means, but if we have just, I even have 01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:08.720 a minority is too much. You know what I mean? 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:11.340 How is empathy a weakness? Trying to put yourself 01:22:11.340 --> 01:22:13.020 in their shoes, try to understand what they're 01:22:13.020 --> 01:22:16.439 going through and people instead of talking to 01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:18.779 them. And I think that's one of the hardest things 01:22:18.779 --> 01:22:23.279 is like engagement. Um, just to have a conversation, 01:22:23.439 --> 01:22:27.260 you know, is you're just trying to, you're, you're, 01:22:27.260 --> 01:22:28.840 you're lying to me and you're, I'm like, no, 01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:32.739 like whatever I say, I do my research on this. 01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:37.119 And again, I may not like, you know, what I find, 01:22:37.140 --> 01:22:39.220 because if I find like several sources that say 01:22:39.220 --> 01:22:41.180 the exact same thing, like, you know what, I 01:22:41.180 --> 01:22:43.539 was wrong on this. And now I got no problem saying, 01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:47.140 you know, Hey, you were right. I was wrong. But 01:22:47.140 --> 01:22:50.300 this is a reason because I hate saying that is 01:22:50.300 --> 01:22:52.300 I do so much research on the things that I'm 01:22:52.300 --> 01:22:54.439 talking about to make sure that doesn't happen. 01:22:54.500 --> 01:22:57.039 I read books. Most of the, like, for example, 01:22:57.100 --> 01:23:01.020 in the Palestine issue, most of the, um, the 01:23:01.020 --> 01:23:04.979 authors, you know, that I, um, The books that 01:23:04.979 --> 01:23:07.859 I read are actually Israeli, Israeli historians. 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:11.420 You know what I mean? Because the news that I 01:23:11.420 --> 01:23:14.300 get like out of Haaretz, Times of Israel, you 01:23:14.300 --> 01:23:18.180 know what I mean? And so, yeah, I understand 01:23:18.180 --> 01:23:21.640 the other side. But if I'm going to kind of fact 01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:24.760 check this, you know, I need to go and find out 01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:27.060 the other side as well. And I try to understand 01:23:27.060 --> 01:23:30.920 the other side. I may not agree, but I try to 01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:33.130 understand. You know what I mean? And I think 01:23:33.130 --> 01:23:35.810 that's one of the biggest things that is lacking 01:23:35.810 --> 01:23:39.810 is just the lack of understanding and the lack 01:23:39.810 --> 01:23:43.029 of empathy and how it's been turned into somehow 01:23:43.029 --> 01:23:47.569 that it's a form of weakness. You know, I'm unapologetic. 01:23:47.630 --> 01:23:49.390 What the fuck for? You know what I mean? Like, 01:23:49.430 --> 01:23:52.149 what does it cost you to say, you know, and again, 01:23:52.189 --> 01:23:54.649 I think that goes back to like their ideology 01:23:54.649 --> 01:23:56.569 has become their identity because, you know, 01:23:56.569 --> 01:23:58.770 for them apologizing, it literally is something 01:23:58.770 --> 01:24:01.819 personal, something they don't want to. um ever 01:24:01.819 --> 01:24:06.159 have to to say because then they feel that it's 01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:09.899 it's like everything they say is wrong no i i 01:24:09.899 --> 01:24:12.119 get dates wrong i get people wrong you know i 01:24:12.119 --> 01:24:14.640 may speak sometimes and i'm like oh no you called 01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:16.760 me on that yes you're right i misspoke my bad 01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:19.260 you know what i mean i just move on but then 01:24:19.260 --> 01:24:22.140 i and again i try to minimize that as much as 01:24:22.140 --> 01:24:25.060 possible by actually reading you know what i 01:24:25.060 --> 01:24:29.710 mean and and doing my research and not for confirmation 01:24:29.710 --> 01:24:32.810 bias you know type research but literally like 01:24:32.810 --> 01:24:36.470 go on both sides to see that and the more that 01:24:36.470 --> 01:24:38.329 people will actually do that the more they see 01:24:38.329 --> 01:24:41.829 that you know what they're saying is is completely 01:24:41.829 --> 01:24:48.529 just you know and and i think they just don't 01:24:48.529 --> 01:24:50.270 want to have that realization they'd rather stay 01:24:50.270 --> 01:24:51.989 in that tiny little bubble they'd rather stay 01:24:51.989 --> 01:24:54.470 willfully ignorant than ever have to admit that 01:24:54.470 --> 01:24:57.609 because it's it's like the end of their world 01:24:57.609 --> 01:25:03.250 on that It's frustrating beyond belief. It's 01:25:03.250 --> 01:25:07.970 aggravating at times. But the one thing that 01:25:07.970 --> 01:25:09.590 kind of keeps me going personally is literally 01:25:09.590 --> 01:25:13.069 someone had some guy on here that was literally 01:25:13.069 --> 01:25:18.670 just trolling me on my page, instant messages. 01:25:18.829 --> 01:25:20.729 And I just kind of like one day snapped at him 01:25:20.729 --> 01:25:22.430 and like everything he said, I just blew it apart. 01:25:22.590 --> 01:25:24.369 I'm like, look this up. And I'm like, well, I 01:25:24.369 --> 01:25:25.789 didn't know that much about it. And I'm like, 01:25:25.789 --> 01:25:28.640 and so I kind of stepped back. Took a deep breath 01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:31.140 and I was like, okay, what don't you know? And 01:25:31.140 --> 01:25:33.020 I had this conversation with a complete stranger, 01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:36.720 someone I had no idea about. And before I knew 01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:38.060 it, he was like, well, I didn't know that. I 01:25:38.060 --> 01:25:40.100 didn't know this. I didn't know that. And so 01:25:40.100 --> 01:25:43.000 I'm like, here, here's a list of books. You know, 01:25:43.020 --> 01:25:44.680 if you're, if you're really wanting to read on 01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:46.659 it and if you really want to understand, and 01:25:46.659 --> 01:25:49.920 I gave him, you know, whatever you need, you 01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:51.899 know, whatever resources. And to this day, we're 01:25:51.899 --> 01:25:53.579 still kind of communicating back and forth. And 01:25:53.579 --> 01:25:57.729 again, I never met the guy, but. It just takes 01:25:57.729 --> 01:26:00.170 that one time for someone to kind of give them 01:26:00.170 --> 01:26:02.670 a different perspective on things in order to 01:26:02.670 --> 01:26:05.930 change their mind. And I've been fortunate enough 01:26:05.930 --> 01:26:08.029 to actually encounter some of these people where 01:26:08.029 --> 01:26:10.909 I think they're a complete troll and they're 01:26:10.909 --> 01:26:12.449 wrong about everything. And I'm thinking like, 01:26:12.470 --> 01:26:14.510 I'm not going to bash them for that because maybe 01:26:14.510 --> 01:26:17.109 they just don't know. And again, trying to use 01:26:17.109 --> 01:26:18.609 that understanding and empathy. And like, if 01:26:18.609 --> 01:26:21.909 you've never been told anything else, if your 01:26:21.909 --> 01:26:24.329 bubble only contains that, it has that echo chamber. 01:26:24.939 --> 01:26:27.899 How are you ever going to know that, you know, 01:26:27.899 --> 01:26:30.279 marijuana, there's never been any death recorded 01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:33.979 in history, you know, using with the use of marijuana? 01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:36.279 You know what I mean? And how people have come 01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:40.859 and replaced that with with excuse me, replaced 01:26:40.859 --> 01:26:43.960 antidepressants with marijuana and use that instead. 01:26:44.260 --> 01:26:46.979 And how like the majority of law enforcement, 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:50.140 they're like, no, dude, if I get a call and they're 01:26:50.140 --> 01:26:52.319 drunk. I know it's going to be trouble. If I 01:26:52.319 --> 01:26:53.479 know they're smoking weed, I know they're going 01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:55.100 to be sitting there eating Cheetos going like, 01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:58.060 what, dude? They just literally want to just 01:26:58.060 --> 01:26:59.680 sit there and eat their Cheetos and watch TV. 01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:02.619 And it's going to be a much calmer night. But 01:27:02.619 --> 01:27:04.500 if they're drunk, then they know they're up for 01:27:04.500 --> 01:27:06.720 a fight. They know there's going to be problems. 01:27:07.020 --> 01:27:09.640 But a lot of people, they don't know that. And 01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:12.119 sometimes it takes a little bit of kind of breaking 01:27:12.119 --> 01:27:14.340 through that bubble and popping it through and 01:27:14.340 --> 01:27:15.520 just kind of getting through and just kind of 01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:18.079 like, hey, man, what don't you know? And sometimes 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:21.199 they're willing, sometimes they're not. It just, 01:27:21.300 --> 01:27:23.920 it's a roll of the dice, but I think it's worth 01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:26.020 it. Honestly, I think it's worth it. Little by 01:27:26.020 --> 01:27:27.779 little, you can start changing minds and changing 01:27:27.779 --> 01:27:30.539 directions. And before you know it, we'd start 01:27:30.539 --> 01:27:33.159 to have this unity on this. And then, you know, 01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:35.760 questioning authority, questioning the, you know, 01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:37.720 question everything for fuck's sake. You know, 01:27:37.739 --> 01:27:41.520 it needs to happen. Ask me questions. I got no 01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:44.300 problem answering. It's when people like say, 01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:47.270 don't question this. that's the people you really 01:27:47.270 --> 01:27:49.229 have to look at. And that's the people that you 01:27:49.229 --> 01:27:51.609 really have to kind of dig into. When Trump's 01:27:51.609 --> 01:27:53.890 saying like, don't ever talk to me like that. 01:27:53.949 --> 01:27:56.010 Don't ever ask me that. How ridiculous is that? 01:27:56.050 --> 01:27:58.550 That's a stupid question. And they fail to answer 01:27:58.550 --> 01:28:00.470 that. Yeah, they're probably hiding something. 01:28:02.869 --> 01:28:04.770 Speaking of changing your mind, I was kind of 01:28:04.770 --> 01:28:09.229 reflecting on the Bible. I'm not a devout Christian, 01:28:09.289 --> 01:28:11.210 but that was the religion that I was raised with. 01:28:11.270 --> 01:28:13.069 So it's the book that I'm most familiar with. 01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:16.359 But when you think about mental health and post 01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:18.659 -traumatic growth, you have the Old Testament, 01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:20.979 eye for an eye, and then you have this rebirth, 01:28:21.140 --> 01:28:23.359 like kindness, compassion, turn the other cheek. 01:28:23.979 --> 01:28:26.819 And so we have a pretty good, you know, selection 01:28:26.819 --> 01:28:29.420 of holy doctrine, as well as, you know, ancient 01:28:29.420 --> 01:28:32.800 wisdom from other areas that give us a pretty 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.859 good roadmap on what to do, what not to do. I 01:28:35.859 --> 01:28:37.539 would be able to sum it up pretty much. Don't 01:28:37.539 --> 01:28:40.460 be a dick is pretty much what it says. But you're 01:28:40.460 --> 01:28:42.859 talking about where is compassion and empathy 01:28:42.859 --> 01:28:46.579 and kindness and community in a country that 01:28:46.579 --> 01:28:50.079 beats its chest so much about its religion. I 01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:52.840 struggle to understand why people don't ask that 01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:54.979 question that they throw out all the time. What 01:28:54.979 --> 01:28:57.840 would Jesus do? What would Jesus do? Would he 01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:01.949 say that Narcan was wasted on drug addicts? Would 01:29:01.949 --> 01:29:04.350 he would he shoo homeless people to a different 01:29:04.350 --> 01:29:07.050 jurisdiction? Would he hunt down elementary kids 01:29:07.050 --> 01:29:08.649 and throw them back to the country they came 01:29:08.649 --> 01:29:10.310 from, even though they fled it because of the 01:29:10.310 --> 01:29:13.210 drug prohibition that we created? You know, I 01:29:13.210 --> 01:29:17.430 don't think so. So my question to you is in supposedly 01:29:17.430 --> 01:29:19.550 such and I'll just stay with Christianity is 01:29:19.550 --> 01:29:22.670 what I know. Christian nation with a very kindness, 01:29:22.670 --> 01:29:26.609 compassionate based, you know, New Testament, 01:29:26.810 --> 01:29:30.670 Jesus, etc. Why is there such a disconnect between? 01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:35.140 the book they supposedly read, but actually not 01:29:35.140 --> 01:29:38.100 enacting what this very prophet would have done 01:29:38.100 --> 01:29:43.500 if he was here today in 2025? That's a great 01:29:43.500 --> 01:29:48.239 question. I read the KGV and the NIV back to 01:29:48.239 --> 01:29:53.279 back. And don't get me wrong, there's some really 01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:56.119 good poetry in there. There's some things that 01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.250 definitely people can benefit off of. But I think 01:29:59.250 --> 01:30:02.250 the problem is, is when people cherry pick things 01:30:02.250 --> 01:30:05.550 and I found myself doing that, too. I mean, there 01:30:05.550 --> 01:30:07.329 was a point in time where I was completely like 01:30:07.329 --> 01:30:12.069 anti -theist and then atheist. And then I started 01:30:12.069 --> 01:30:13.750 actually being an atheist that believed in ghosts. 01:30:13.770 --> 01:30:15.890 And I'm like, no, you know, I can't I can't really 01:30:15.890 --> 01:30:19.050 accept that either because I don't believe in 01:30:19.050 --> 01:30:21.810 anything supernatural. So I just kind of left 01:30:21.810 --> 01:30:24.569 it at I'm just one of those people. I don't believe 01:30:24.569 --> 01:30:26.289 in anything supernatural. I don't know what label 01:30:26.289 --> 01:30:30.720 that is. um when you have a society that and 01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:32.659 you just said i don't know if you misspoke but 01:30:32.659 --> 01:30:34.479 we're not actually not a christian nation we're 01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:39.979 a secular nation and i think that is and i even 01:30:39.979 --> 01:30:42.279 as someone who doesn't believe and doesn't have 01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:44.739 any religion i will fight tooth and nail for 01:30:44.739 --> 01:30:47.060 your right to have it because i think that's 01:30:47.060 --> 01:30:50.039 what allows the protections for all of them so 01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:54.800 when people isolate and say and and they create 01:30:54.800 --> 01:31:00.859 this um um ideology based off their theology 01:31:00.859 --> 01:31:05.859 that conforms to their way of life or what they 01:31:05.859 --> 01:31:07.960 feel should be a way of life. I think that's 01:31:07.960 --> 01:31:11.140 the biggest problem. And when you have people 01:31:11.140 --> 01:31:13.659 like Kenneth Copeland that, you know, makes, 01:31:13.779 --> 01:31:16.539 I think the last time I read about it, he was 01:31:16.539 --> 01:31:19.460 making $320 million a year, has three private 01:31:19.460 --> 01:31:21.439 jets, his own airport. And I know this because 01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:24.220 he's in Fort Worth, you know, not even like an 01:31:24.220 --> 01:31:28.729 hour and a half from where I live. that people 01:31:28.729 --> 01:31:30.750 are manipulated through that it becomes a business 01:31:30.750 --> 01:31:33.609 and so when it becomes a business what has been 01:31:33.609 --> 01:31:37.649 the biggest seller in in recent history is is 01:31:37.649 --> 01:31:40.710 selling fear fear -mongering right and so when 01:31:40.710 --> 01:31:42.430 you constantly like preach like the prophecy 01:31:42.430 --> 01:31:46.970 end of times and you know well i speak of war 01:31:46.970 --> 01:31:50.430 or you know possibility of war give me a time 01:31:50.430 --> 01:31:52.750 when they haven't you know there's always been 01:31:52.750 --> 01:31:55.649 you know talk of war or you know war or talk 01:31:55.649 --> 01:31:59.359 of war So it's very vague and ambiguous for a 01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:02.539 reason. There isn't a single prophecy that isn't 01:32:02.539 --> 01:32:04.420 vague and ambiguous, and that's done on purpose 01:32:04.420 --> 01:32:08.000 so you can interpret it that way. And I'm not 01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:11.420 by any means siding with any religion. There's 01:32:11.420 --> 01:32:13.840 extremists on all sides, but in the U .S. particularly. 01:32:15.699 --> 01:32:18.720 Honestly, if you're going to swindle people out 01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:22.460 of their money, it's... People get swindled out 01:32:22.460 --> 01:32:24.119 of a lot of businesses, you know what I mean? 01:32:24.180 --> 01:32:26.039 But that's exactly what they are, they're businesses. 01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:31.920 If you are, you know, you're receiving tax -free 01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:36.220 for making, like Joel Osteen was making, I read 01:32:36.220 --> 01:32:42.159 this in 2019 or, yeah, 2019, he was making $97 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.119 million a year with only 1 .2 going toward actual 01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:48.079 charities and into the community, everything 01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:49.979 else being administrative fees and so forth. 01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:53.479 especially when they find like $400 ,000 in the 01:32:53.479 --> 01:32:59.840 wall in cash. Remember they passed that law, 01:32:59.960 --> 01:33:03.399 I forgot where it was, but where homeless people 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:10.659 couldn't sleep outside and they were going to 01:33:10.659 --> 01:33:14.680 be fined or arrested if they were sleeping in 01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.739 public areas. Well, sure, make that the law, 01:33:17.819 --> 01:33:21.220 but have them go to the church. because that's 01:33:21.220 --> 01:33:23.340 what they're there for. That's what they're preaching. 01:33:23.539 --> 01:33:24.960 You know what I mean? They're like, yeah, we 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:27.159 do good for the community. Okay, we'll prove 01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:29.319 it. You know, they should be audited. And if 01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:31.720 you're making $330 million a year and there's 01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:35.060 still homeless people in your area, well, guess 01:33:35.060 --> 01:33:37.180 what? You know, either you contribute to that, 01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:40.960 like you said, you know, you preach about, or 01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:45.460 you don't get taxed. I think that's more than 01:33:45.460 --> 01:33:47.439 fair. And I'm not just talking about any religion. 01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:49.640 I'm talking about one religion specifically. 01:33:49.699 --> 01:33:52.420 I'm talking about any religion that preaches 01:33:52.420 --> 01:33:57.479 that. If you're making that much money and you're 01:33:57.479 --> 01:34:00.460 not getting audited and only a small percentage, 01:34:00.579 --> 01:34:04.279 like 2 % of your profits, what you're making 01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:07.939 tax -free, goes to helping society, that's no 01:34:07.939 --> 01:34:10.619 longer a... you know a charitable contribution 01:34:10.619 --> 01:34:12.680 that you're making to society that's literally 01:34:12.680 --> 01:34:15.619 you're profiting off of it if you got three private 01:34:15.619 --> 01:34:18.340 jets in your own airport for fuck's sake dude 01:34:18.340 --> 01:34:21.760 i mean why why are you even discussing it why 01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:25.500 aren't they being audited for for what they say 01:34:25.500 --> 01:34:30.359 in their their you know if you want to sell what 01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:36.409 is it um that what's the the one that crazy chick 01:34:36.409 --> 01:34:38.729 that's the the faith office for trump that she 01:34:38.729 --> 01:34:42.329 was speaking in tongues the blonde lady on passover 01:34:42.329 --> 01:34:47.010 she was um um selling an angel a personal angel 01:34:47.010 --> 01:34:49.569 for a thousand dollars out of the white house 01:34:49.569 --> 01:34:51.649 you know what i mean and she's literally got 01:34:51.649 --> 01:34:53.590 her office the faith office in the white house 01:34:53.590 --> 01:34:56.369 and she's selling personal angels for a thousand 01:34:56.369 --> 01:35:01.909 dollars these are you know how is this like an 01:35:01.909 --> 01:35:05.300 acceptable you know again if you want to do this 01:35:05.300 --> 01:35:08.399 okay but again you should be classified as a 01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:10.399 business and fall under those regulations as 01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:13.760 well and if you don't produce what you're saying 01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:15.659 or people are not satisfied with it you should 01:35:15.659 --> 01:35:17.920 be able to get your money back or selling you 01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:20.939 know bottled water that's you know holy water 01:35:20.939 --> 01:35:24.560 guess what it is you know guess what you know 01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:27.140 you should be taxed on it as well because again 01:35:27.140 --> 01:35:29.180 you're making a profit off of this you see what 01:35:29.180 --> 01:35:31.609 i mean so If people want to give their money 01:35:31.609 --> 01:35:33.670 to a certain organization because they feel it's 01:35:33.670 --> 01:35:35.829 doing well, I'm not going to stop them. I'm not 01:35:35.829 --> 01:35:38.649 saying that we should stop them from doing it, 01:35:38.670 --> 01:35:42.310 even though they're harming themselves or their 01:35:42.310 --> 01:35:44.989 family by giving them everything that they have 01:35:44.989 --> 01:35:47.850 and not looking in any direction. I think it's 01:35:47.850 --> 01:35:51.310 wrong, but it doesn't matter what I think. In 01:35:51.310 --> 01:35:54.729 this aspect where if it's a business for them 01:35:54.729 --> 01:35:57.229 and if they're profiting that much, then either 01:35:57.229 --> 01:36:02.369 A, They need to be audited and taxed and then 01:36:02.369 --> 01:36:08.029 held accountable to that. No, actually, that's 01:36:08.029 --> 01:36:13.130 it. They need to be taxed on it and treated like 01:36:13.130 --> 01:36:16.229 a business. No or. They should be treated like 01:36:16.229 --> 01:36:18.869 a business and audited. And if they're not doing 01:36:18.869 --> 01:36:20.489 what they say they're doing, helping the society, 01:36:20.869 --> 01:36:25.750 then guess what? They need to be held accountable 01:36:25.750 --> 01:36:29.819 for it. Yeah, absolutely. I misspoke when I said 01:36:29.819 --> 01:36:32.000 Christian nation. I think what I was referring 01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:36.000 to is some people project us as a Christian nation, 01:36:36.079 --> 01:36:39.619 even though we are multicultural, 100%. We're 01:36:39.619 --> 01:36:43.180 definitely a Christian majority, no doubt. But 01:36:43.180 --> 01:36:45.720 we have so many faiths in there, and this is 01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:48.739 one of the big things. When they want to put 01:36:48.739 --> 01:36:52.960 the Old Testament in the classrooms, why? How 01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:57.689 does that benefit? How does that benefit the 01:36:57.689 --> 01:37:00.109 students by having out there? And it literally 01:37:00.109 --> 01:37:02.270 says, you know, in the first commandment, it 01:37:02.270 --> 01:37:05.010 literally, the first commandment goes against 01:37:05.010 --> 01:37:08.149 the first amendment and vice versa. You know 01:37:08.149 --> 01:37:10.810 what I mean? You know, you show no worship, no 01:37:10.810 --> 01:37:14.710 other God than me. Well, the first amendment 01:37:14.710 --> 01:37:16.590 literally says we shall not respect any other 01:37:16.590 --> 01:37:19.670 religion above any other. You see what I mean? 01:37:19.689 --> 01:37:21.390 So it's contradicting. So when people say God 01:37:21.390 --> 01:37:22.770 and country, I don't believe that whatsoever. 01:37:22.909 --> 01:37:24.470 Again, my highest authority is the constitution. 01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:27.819 And in the constitution, there's absolutely no 01:37:27.819 --> 01:37:29.500 mention of God. There's no mention of Jesus. 01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:32.239 And they did that on purpose. You see what I 01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:35.659 mean? And so, and this is why I'm like such a 01:37:35.659 --> 01:37:39.460 hardcore believer in the constitution, because 01:37:39.460 --> 01:37:43.659 again, it's, that's my highest authority. This 01:37:43.659 --> 01:37:47.159 is why I abide by and, and this can, you know, 01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:50.020 literally violates the first amendment on there 01:37:50.020 --> 01:37:53.579 and it shouldn't be there. You know, it doesn't 01:37:53.579 --> 01:37:55.520 benefit the student whatsoever. It literally 01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:57.680 offends, you know, people that have other religions. 01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:00.000 And this is the whole reason why we were kind 01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:02.380 of established is, you know, to escape from religious 01:38:02.380 --> 01:38:04.420 persecution. That was one of the big, you know, 01:38:04.439 --> 01:38:07.899 big things of the founding fathers. And when 01:38:07.899 --> 01:38:10.579 we violate that ourselves later on and don't 01:38:10.579 --> 01:38:12.840 understand that, and again, the understanding 01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:16.119 and empathy are gone. I think this is the result 01:38:16.119 --> 01:38:18.300 of that. This is what you get when you take those 01:38:18.300 --> 01:38:21.500 things away. is you have like an imposition of 01:38:21.500 --> 01:38:24.359 someone else's religion. If you are a Christian 01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.220 and you tell me, you know what, that goes against 01:38:27.220 --> 01:38:29.180 my religion. Like, you know what, I respect that. 01:38:29.220 --> 01:38:32.319 Cool, no problem. But if you say you can't do 01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:34.520 that because of my religion, now we got a fucking 01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:36.420 problem. Go fuck yourself. I don't give a shit. 01:38:36.819 --> 01:38:39.000 You know what I mean? I have a lot of Muslim 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:40.500 friends. I have a lot of Christian friends. I 01:38:40.500 --> 01:38:42.880 have Hindu friends. I have atheist friends. I 01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:45.859 got all different types, you know, and my Muslim 01:38:45.859 --> 01:38:48.789 friends don't tell me not to eat pork. You know 01:38:48.789 --> 01:38:51.590 what I mean? It's their choice. I'm not going 01:38:51.590 --> 01:38:53.390 to force it on them, but they're not going to 01:38:53.390 --> 01:38:56.409 tell me what I should do. And no Christian is 01:38:56.409 --> 01:38:59.109 going to tell me what I should do either. It's 01:38:59.109 --> 01:39:00.750 just that's your belief. That's your personal 01:39:00.750 --> 01:39:03.529 relationship with God. And I respect that by 01:39:03.529 --> 01:39:05.829 all means. I don't necessarily respect the religion 01:39:05.829 --> 01:39:09.670 just because I'm not religious at all. But you 01:39:09.670 --> 01:39:13.010 as a person, I try to at least until you start, 01:39:13.090 --> 01:39:16.260 you know, spouting off shit like that. And that's 01:39:16.260 --> 01:39:18.159 where we kind of start creating this disconnect 01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:20.680 and so forth. But if that's your religion, that's 01:39:20.680 --> 01:39:22.659 what you want to believe in, by all means. If 01:39:22.659 --> 01:39:24.720 it's not harming yourself or anyone else by believing 01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:30.560 in it, okay, by all means. How do we get people 01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:35.260 to circle back around to we the people, circle 01:39:35.260 --> 01:39:38.060 around to love thy neighbor, we are God's children, 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:40.779 whatever, again, the phrases that you really 01:39:40.779 --> 01:39:43.640 resonate with that go back to that tribalism? 01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:47.039 The village that we grew up in, the kind of community 01:39:47.039 --> 01:39:51.039 that we've allowed to be completely ripped from 01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:54.680 us. If you were king for a day, president for 01:39:54.680 --> 01:39:56.880 a day, whatever you want to call it, how would 01:39:56.880 --> 01:39:59.260 you start rebuilding the community and putting 01:39:59.260 --> 01:40:02.180 it back to, as you alluded to, the very vision 01:40:02.180 --> 01:40:04.140 that our forefathers had or our founding fathers 01:40:04.140 --> 01:40:10.479 had 200, 300 years ago? It's definitely not through 01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:13.560 religion. Um, and the reason I say this is that, 01:40:13.619 --> 01:40:16.100 you know, in the U S alone, we have 240 different 01:40:16.100 --> 01:40:19.319 denominations of Christianity. You know, we have 01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:23.500 44 ,000 globally. And even within, if you talk 01:40:23.500 --> 01:40:26.239 to some of the Protestants, um, especially, you 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:29.020 know, some people I know, you know, they're shit 01:40:29.020 --> 01:40:30.939 talking about Catholics, you know, they're like, 01:40:30.979 --> 01:40:32.779 they're not Christians. Like, well, you know, 01:40:32.779 --> 01:40:35.060 all Catholics are Christian. No Christians are 01:40:35.060 --> 01:40:38.600 Catholic, you know what I mean? And. Everyone, 01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:40.300 every religion, I think, has their problems, 01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:42.300 has their extremists. There's no doubt about 01:40:42.300 --> 01:40:48.760 it. This guy, Adam Shaver, the one that was literally 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:52.819 crucified, a pastor, right? He was a Jewish Zionist 01:40:52.819 --> 01:40:58.600 extremist. Yeah. So you have, and the guy that 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:02.800 was in Florida that massacred at the gay club, 01:41:02.939 --> 01:41:06.020 you know what I mean? You have extremists on 01:41:06.020 --> 01:41:09.399 either side. i'm not calling you can't take the 01:41:09.399 --> 01:41:14.819 actions of someone like that um of like timothy 01:41:14.819 --> 01:41:18.619 mcveigh had the um the uh turner diaries you 01:41:18.619 --> 01:41:21.640 know and which was calling it was a a christian 01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:24.340 extremist far right wing uh calling for like 01:41:24.340 --> 01:41:25.960 the civil war and that was supposed to create 01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:31.020 it right um so you have you have extremists on 01:41:31.020 --> 01:41:32.739 both sides but that's not a representation of 01:41:32.739 --> 01:41:35.579 the majority of people right it's just not and 01:41:37.779 --> 01:41:40.619 Bringing it back to the Constitution, I think 01:41:40.619 --> 01:41:43.840 is, and this is the hardest part, is having that 01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:50.539 understanding and having the empathy. If your 01:41:50.539 --> 01:41:53.000 religion, if you feel that your religion is violated, 01:41:53.220 --> 01:41:56.100 right, by someone stepping on it, stepping on 01:41:56.100 --> 01:42:00.380 your beliefs, well, if you're saying that, you 01:42:00.380 --> 01:42:04.060 know, you shouldn't be treated the same because 01:42:04.060 --> 01:42:07.640 you're Muslim. Well, imagine how that would be 01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:10.300 if it was reversed. Right. If you're feeling 01:42:10.300 --> 01:42:13.020 like the rules and laws are written for Christians 01:42:13.020 --> 01:42:17.359 and somehow, you know, just say hypothetically, 01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:21.000 the Muslims, you know, start becoming the majority 01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.579 and they take away your rights. You know, how 01:42:23.579 --> 01:42:27.699 would you respond to that? And most of them would 01:42:27.699 --> 01:42:30.159 say violently. And I'm like, well, do you think 01:42:30.159 --> 01:42:32.199 that's the right answer? Because right now that's 01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:34.239 what's happening to them. And do you think it's 01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:36.220 right for them to respond violently? You know 01:42:36.220 --> 01:42:38.279 what I mean? And when you take the same question, 01:42:38.319 --> 01:42:40.340 kind of flip it back on them, I think that's 01:42:40.340 --> 01:42:42.680 when you really get through to them if they're 01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:45.359 able to listen and comprehend what you're saying 01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:48.079 and not just dismiss it right away because I'm 01:42:48.079 --> 01:42:51.960 not saying everything they want to hear. And 01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:54.380 to say, like, all Muslims are bad people, that's 01:42:54.380 --> 01:42:57.279 fucking horrible. It's the same thing of saying 01:42:57.279 --> 01:43:01.340 that all Christians are bad people just because 01:43:01.340 --> 01:43:05.239 you had... You know, a cannibal, you know, was 01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:07.560 it the guy in Florida and Tampa? That was the 01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:12.479 he was the puppeteer, the Christian Christian 01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:16.399 puppeteer at the after school program. And he 01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:21.439 was literally arrested and he was going to eat 01:43:21.439 --> 01:43:23.880 the kids, you know, and that that was his plan. 01:43:23.979 --> 01:43:26.439 But he had like all this child pornography and. 01:43:27.660 --> 01:43:29.560 that's not a representation of the mainstream 01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:31.619 Christians. You know what I mean? And most of 01:43:31.619 --> 01:43:33.659 them are good people. Same thing with all the 01:43:33.659 --> 01:43:35.239 religions, and I think especially the Abrahamic 01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:37.760 religions for the majority. And the crazy part 01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:39.699 is what I saw that actually surprised me is that 01:43:39.699 --> 01:43:42.439 every protest that I went to that was pro -Palestinian, 01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:46.539 I met a rabbi there. That blew my mind. I was 01:43:46.539 --> 01:43:52.119 like, I wasn't expecting this. And I like to 01:43:52.119 --> 01:43:54.739 consider myself somewhat educated and knowledgeable 01:43:54.739 --> 01:43:56.880 in the things that are happening. But that took 01:43:56.880 --> 01:43:59.399 me off by surprise. And the thing was, is that 01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:00.840 they were just like, you're not going to use 01:44:00.840 --> 01:44:02.659 our religion against, you know, against these 01:44:02.659 --> 01:44:04.560 people because that's not what it teaches us. 01:44:05.060 --> 01:44:07.279 And so I was like, I was really taken back by 01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:09.159 that. And I really appreciated their stance on 01:44:09.159 --> 01:44:11.760 us because, I mean, this is not easy. It's literally 01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:15.819 like they're probably getting more shit on them 01:44:15.819 --> 01:44:18.939 than anybody else because they feel like they're 01:44:18.939 --> 01:44:21.859 betraying them, you know, and they're going against 01:44:21.859 --> 01:44:24.699 it. But they're standing firm. And I find that 01:44:24.699 --> 01:44:27.460 absolutely incredible. That's amazing. And so 01:44:27.460 --> 01:44:31.319 much respect to them. But I think it just has 01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:35.279 to go back to the very basics of just understanding 01:44:35.279 --> 01:44:38.479 and empathy. And I think that's why so many people 01:44:38.479 --> 01:44:41.439 are literally pushing that false narrative that 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:44.939 empathy is a weakness, that empathy and understanding 01:44:44.939 --> 01:44:46.979 is like something that you need to do away with. 01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:53.279 And I honestly think that once we actually can 01:44:53.279 --> 01:45:00.100 put that back in. Hell, like Mr. Rogers was actually 01:45:00.100 --> 01:45:01.819 really good at teaching that. You know what I 01:45:01.819 --> 01:45:04.100 mean? And I think we need like another Mr. Rogers 01:45:04.100 --> 01:45:08.439 or Carl Sagan that need to kind of like be pushed 01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:11.899 up again. You know, education needs to be, you 01:45:11.899 --> 01:45:16.520 know, when you don't understand why black people 01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:18.579 are so upset, you know, with the things that 01:45:18.579 --> 01:45:20.039 are happening, you don't have an understanding 01:45:20.039 --> 01:45:22.390 and you don't have any empathy. Try putting yourself 01:45:22.390 --> 01:45:24.609 in their shoes and see what it's like. Every 01:45:24.609 --> 01:45:27.430 track has stopped. It could be your life. I'm 01:45:27.430 --> 01:45:30.250 not exaggerating on this. I'm not being dramatic 01:45:30.250 --> 01:45:34.529 about it. It's literally what happens. Where 01:45:34.529 --> 01:45:36.970 I got to feel that was when I was in Palestine, 01:45:37.149 --> 01:45:39.569 where every time we got stopped, that guy's already 01:45:39.569 --> 01:45:42.909 pointing a gun at me. And how would that make 01:45:42.909 --> 01:45:47.800 you feel if you were in those shoes? the especially 01:45:47.800 --> 01:45:50.260 with you know the past that's been created on 01:45:50.260 --> 01:45:53.680 that you know the renaming of the the um you 01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:55.000 know the statues that are up with the renaming 01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.640 the military bases all from from people that 01:45:57.640 --> 01:46:00.340 literally from the confederacy that the only 01:46:00.340 --> 01:46:02.600 reason for them being famous were literally because 01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:05.380 there were generals in the confederacy and it 01:46:05.380 --> 01:46:10.960 wasn't like they named them like during the confederacy 01:46:10.960 --> 01:46:13.840 or after we're talking like 60 70 years after 01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:16.289 the then we're glorifying them You know what 01:46:16.289 --> 01:46:18.569 I mean? What's part of a history? Well, we have 01:46:18.569 --> 01:46:20.010 a lot of things in our history that we don't 01:46:20.010 --> 01:46:22.529 need to glorify them. And I think people just 01:46:22.529 --> 01:46:23.949 don't understand that. And why would that be 01:46:23.949 --> 01:46:25.550 offensive? Because you have people that literally 01:46:25.550 --> 01:46:30.229 are, that some have generational, I mean, millions 01:46:30.229 --> 01:46:33.789 that were brought here against their will. And 01:46:33.789 --> 01:46:36.229 they've been here for generations. And they've 01:46:36.229 --> 01:46:40.109 experienced this firsthand. You know, where it's 01:46:40.109 --> 01:46:46.810 literally the constant, you know, targeting of 01:46:46.810 --> 01:46:51.130 people because of their skin color and the assumption 01:46:51.130 --> 01:46:53.489 that they're always going to be a criminal, you 01:46:53.489 --> 01:46:56.149 know, that they're not educated, which is, I 01:46:56.149 --> 01:46:58.789 mean, some of the smartest people I know are 01:46:58.789 --> 01:47:01.609 brown people and darker brown people. And that's 01:47:01.609 --> 01:47:04.229 the thing is that it's, it's, it's such a false 01:47:04.229 --> 01:47:09.029 narrative that people push, you know, when it's 01:47:09.029 --> 01:47:11.649 ridiculous. And, and I think the biggest thing 01:47:11.649 --> 01:47:16.409 is education. And empathy and understanding. 01:47:16.609 --> 01:47:18.270 Those are the three key things that I find that 01:47:18.270 --> 01:47:21.470 are missing the most. Because a lot of things 01:47:21.470 --> 01:47:23.909 that we've had were whitewashed, you know, for 01:47:23.909 --> 01:47:25.649 the longest time. And we don't, we don't, the 01:47:25.649 --> 01:47:28.310 Tulsa massacre. I didn't find out about that 01:47:28.310 --> 01:47:31.189 till like four years ago. Why the fuck did, I'm 01:47:31.189 --> 01:47:33.970 46 years old when I first found out about that. 01:47:34.050 --> 01:47:36.529 Like how ridiculous is this? And I feel ashamed 01:47:36.529 --> 01:47:38.329 of myself. Like how did I, but I didn't know. 01:47:38.369 --> 01:47:39.829 They didn't teach us that in school. Why not? 01:47:41.009 --> 01:47:44.689 One of the things in Christopher Columbus's diaries 01:47:44.689 --> 01:47:48.829 is saying, yes, we landed here, and the people 01:47:48.829 --> 01:47:52.350 are the nicest, most welcoming. They fed us. 01:47:52.390 --> 01:47:55.250 They closed us. They gave us their women. They 01:47:55.250 --> 01:47:58.149 did everything for us. They'll make great slaves. 01:48:00.590 --> 01:48:03.029 Why weren't we taught that? You know what I mean? 01:48:03.649 --> 01:48:07.750 And again, I think it's just that pushing that 01:48:07.750 --> 01:48:09.489 narrative is what keeps people under control. 01:48:10.250 --> 01:48:12.689 because of the ignorance that they have and sometimes 01:48:12.689 --> 01:48:16.390 it's willful sometimes it's not but i'm not trying 01:48:16.390 --> 01:48:17.850 to insult people by saying ignorance i'm saying 01:48:17.850 --> 01:48:19.550 they don't know you know i mean a lot of people 01:48:19.550 --> 01:48:21.310 find that word offensive just like well you don't 01:48:21.310 --> 01:48:23.130 know about it so you're ignorant you know but 01:48:23.130 --> 01:48:25.970 it's something offensive i'm just saying but 01:48:25.970 --> 01:48:27.430 if you're willfully ignorant that's different 01:48:27.430 --> 01:48:29.569 yes that is offensive hopefully you can take 01:48:29.569 --> 01:48:31.069 that and understand that then i'm actually offending 01:48:31.069 --> 01:48:36.149 you it's funny you said about slavery because 01:48:36.149 --> 01:48:41.020 i we had a kind of um yeah just a query in my 01:48:41.020 --> 01:48:45.939 head i'm like let me let me look up the uk at 01:48:45.939 --> 01:48:48.359 the height of slavery because on the other side 01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:50.699 of this and the other enemy to compassion and 01:48:50.699 --> 01:48:54.220 empathy and us coming together is the white people 01:48:54.220 --> 01:48:56.479 are you know everything is white people's fault 01:48:56.479 --> 01:48:59.060 and i mode all this because i have this pigmentation 01:48:59.060 --> 01:49:00.779 that's the other side of this conversation if 01:49:00.779 --> 01:49:03.000 we're talking about extremism and so i'm like 01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.569 all right let me look When slavery was at its 01:49:05.569 --> 01:49:08.890 height and the British slavers were buying from 01:49:08.890 --> 01:49:11.390 the African tribes who were selling either their 01:49:11.390 --> 01:49:13.590 own people or other tribes that they captured, 01:49:13.750 --> 01:49:16.970 giving them to the Brits, and then we would basically 01:49:16.970 --> 01:49:19.510 hand them off to the Americans, take tobacco 01:49:19.510 --> 01:49:21.909 or whatever, and then go back to England clean 01:49:21.909 --> 01:49:23.369 -handed. I don't know what you're talking about. 01:49:23.510 --> 01:49:27.850 What is slavery? England was at some of its poorest 01:49:27.850 --> 01:49:31.090 times in history then. So this is the other thing. 01:49:31.250 --> 01:49:35.020 We're talking about a division. most white people 01:49:35.020 --> 01:49:38.399 did not benefit from slavery in any way, shape 01:49:38.399 --> 01:49:40.220 or form. And people might say, oh yeah, but you 01:49:40.220 --> 01:49:41.899 know, through time it's like, no, but no one 01:49:41.899 --> 01:49:44.479 put their hand up and said, yes, I am. I would 01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:46.560 love to go and enslave some people so I could 01:49:46.560 --> 01:49:49.220 have an iPhone. That'd be amazing. No, you know, 01:49:49.220 --> 01:49:51.239 the farmers, the blacksmiths, the bakers, they 01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:53.500 were just going about their day, regardless of 01:49:53.500 --> 01:49:55.479 what was going on thousands of miles. It was 01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:58.479 just a few people making a shitload of money 01:49:58.479 --> 01:50:01.170 while everyone else continued to starve. So we've 01:50:01.170 --> 01:50:03.310 also got to realize this has happened over and 01:50:03.310 --> 01:50:05.149 over and over and over again. And even with the 01:50:05.149 --> 01:50:07.850 slavery thing, it's not even pigmentation. If 01:50:07.850 --> 01:50:10.630 they happen to be orange or purple or blue, as 01:50:10.630 --> 01:50:12.310 long as they could work for free, they didn't 01:50:12.310 --> 01:50:15.010 give a fuck what they look like. So, you know, 01:50:15.010 --> 01:50:18.390 we've got to also realize like it's 2025, you 01:50:18.390 --> 01:50:20.789 know, we got to recalibrate and realize that 01:50:20.789 --> 01:50:25.430 it's the. the greed hungry despicable few that 01:50:25.430 --> 01:50:28.109 fuck it up for everyone else but if they keep 01:50:28.109 --> 01:50:30.250 us divided and keep saying oh you know black 01:50:30.250 --> 01:50:32.149 people white people and everything then we're 01:50:32.149 --> 01:50:34.869 going to perpetuate this lie but i mean are there 01:50:34.869 --> 01:50:37.510 incidences where even in modern society there 01:50:37.510 --> 01:50:40.789 is that racism of course but i think it's a minority 01:50:40.789 --> 01:50:43.510 now so it's up to again the middle majority that 01:50:43.510 --> 01:50:45.989 we keep talking about to stand up and say enough 01:50:45.989 --> 01:50:48.609 is a fucking enough man i just went to my son's 01:50:48.609 --> 01:50:52.319 high school graduation It was an absolute spectrum 01:50:52.319 --> 01:50:55.340 of colors and religions. And these incredible 01:50:55.340 --> 01:50:58.760 kids were graduating with honors. They were joining 01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:01.340 the military. They were in dual enrollment programs. 01:51:01.500 --> 01:51:04.640 This community of children, they've been on the 01:51:04.640 --> 01:51:09.060 track team with my son. This is America. This 01:51:09.060 --> 01:51:12.239 is America. So that other extremist narrative 01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:15.220 needs to stop as well, where it's like, you know, 01:51:15.300 --> 01:51:19.279 racism is... The backbone of America, and it's 01:51:19.279 --> 01:51:23.340 fucking not. It's the few toxic people that we've 01:51:23.340 --> 01:51:26.619 got to all see, all of us, side by side, and 01:51:26.619 --> 01:51:32.279 start getting rid of them. I agree to a point. 01:51:35.100 --> 01:51:37.800 I don't think it's the backbone of America. I 01:51:37.800 --> 01:51:41.319 still think that there is definitely racism that's 01:51:41.319 --> 01:51:45.260 alive and well. Now, would it be directly apparent? 01:51:46.350 --> 01:51:51.909 Maybe not. Are all white people racist? Definitely 01:51:51.909 --> 01:51:56.510 not. Are the majority? No, they're not. But I 01:51:56.510 --> 01:52:00.810 still think that it is alive and well. And when 01:52:00.810 --> 01:52:06.010 we talk about white privilege, it's not that 01:52:06.010 --> 01:52:10.750 we are the ones that have created that. It's 01:52:10.750 --> 01:52:15.489 not our fault. It's just how society is. But 01:52:15.489 --> 01:52:19.229 I do believe that, you know, that racism is still 01:52:19.229 --> 01:52:24.270 around. Islamophobia is still around, you know, 01:52:24.270 --> 01:52:26.930 and I don't think it's gotten any worse. I think 01:52:26.930 --> 01:52:30.630 people it's just become more widely known that 01:52:30.630 --> 01:52:34.930 it's happening. Like, for example, you know, 01:52:34.949 --> 01:52:39.250 and until like in the mid 50s, you know, they 01:52:39.250 --> 01:52:43.109 were saying that, you know, it was like so many, 01:52:43.210 --> 01:52:46.069 you know. people that were left -handed, you 01:52:46.069 --> 01:52:51.090 know, writers. Um, it was, what was that example? 01:52:51.250 --> 01:52:53.729 Like, uh, it was the left -hand writers that 01:52:53.729 --> 01:52:56.409 were, they didn't know like how many of the world 01:52:56.409 --> 01:52:58.210 sudden did a study on like how many there were. 01:52:58.250 --> 01:53:00.069 And then, then they realized, well, they didn't 01:53:00.069 --> 01:53:01.850 realize, you know, how many left -hand writers 01:53:01.850 --> 01:53:04.590 there were until they did the study. So it's 01:53:04.590 --> 01:53:06.649 one of those things where, you know, we, if you 01:53:06.649 --> 01:53:09.289 look at the population in prison, you know, in, 01:53:09.449 --> 01:53:12.220 in comparison to how many. you know black people 01:53:12.220 --> 01:53:13.739 there are it's how many people are in prison 01:53:13.739 --> 01:53:15.800 it's overwhelming you know what i mean especially 01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:19.800 the black and brown and because we have you know 01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:23.859 the the 25 of the global population that's imprisoned 01:53:23.859 --> 01:53:26.939 in the united states currently and the majority 01:53:26.939 --> 01:53:31.039 of that is minority groups um comparatively to 01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:34.659 what the population is in general not saying 01:53:34.659 --> 01:53:37.020 because the majority of people in prison are 01:53:37.020 --> 01:53:39.960 white But if you look at two in comparison to 01:53:39.960 --> 01:53:43.159 the population statistics per capita, that changes 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:50.359 drastically. And and now do we blame everybody 01:53:50.359 --> 01:53:54.199 on on slavery? No, no, we don't. That I agree 01:53:54.199 --> 01:53:57.819 with you to that point where. But is it still 01:53:57.819 --> 01:54:02.460 something that is alive and well, especially 01:54:02.460 --> 01:54:05.649 like in. In law enforcement system, you know, 01:54:05.649 --> 01:54:16.630 I still think there is a lot of, if not, I still 01:54:16.630 --> 01:54:19.989 think there's prejudice in that by, you know, 01:54:19.989 --> 01:54:23.109 by a full extent, you know, people making assumptions 01:54:23.109 --> 01:54:25.270 that they're criminals just because of the color 01:54:25.270 --> 01:54:29.159 of their skin. Do you know what I'm saying? oh 01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:31.800 law enforcement are racist absolutely fucking 01:54:31.800 --> 01:54:34.340 not you know what i mean do i think all black 01:54:34.340 --> 01:54:38.880 people are um are are you know innocent of everything 01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:41.020 no you know if they commit a crime by all means 01:54:41.020 --> 01:54:43.939 you know what i mean but we have instances um 01:54:43.939 --> 01:54:47.699 where we have these juvenile uh detention centers 01:54:47.699 --> 01:54:50.819 that are filled with 100 percent um with you 01:54:50.819 --> 01:54:53.180 know minority groups with black kids you know 01:54:53.180 --> 01:54:56.439 and um they're literally like when they started 01:54:56.439 --> 01:54:59.220 investigating i think there was a I was watching 01:54:59.220 --> 01:55:00.859 John Oliver, actually, and he brought up one 01:55:00.859 --> 01:55:04.100 instance in Louisiana where there was a judge 01:55:04.100 --> 01:55:07.000 that literally was making up laws in order to 01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:10.760 incarcerate him. Literally making up laws. That's 01:55:10.760 --> 01:55:13.039 how drug prohibition had started. The whole reefer 01:55:13.039 --> 01:55:15.460 madness thing. It was a guy basically justifying 01:55:15.460 --> 01:55:18.119 his job after the failed alcohol prohibition. 01:55:18.239 --> 01:55:23.500 So he made up laws. Yeah. But it's 2025. You 01:55:23.500 --> 01:55:26.039 know what I mean? Why don't we pass that still, 01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:30.779 you know? And the thing is, is that, well, how 01:55:30.779 --> 01:55:33.479 does that, if you look to, you know, the why 01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:36.100 again, the origin, if we look for the cause instead 01:55:36.100 --> 01:55:40.020 of the effect, you know, we have the effect that, 01:55:40.020 --> 01:55:42.020 you know, that they're committing crimes. Well, 01:55:42.100 --> 01:55:43.800 why is that? And with a couple of low income, 01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:46.140 well, why is that? It's like, yes, we, you know, 01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:47.979 since the civil rights, but civil rights didn't 01:55:47.979 --> 01:55:51.520 come until, you know, 1964. you know what i mean 01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:55.380 and so it's one of those things where we had 01:55:55.380 --> 01:55:58.619 you know uh segregation we had that and once 01:55:58.619 --> 01:56:00.939 it once we had civil rights did all of that end 01:56:00.939 --> 01:56:05.340 you know i mean of course not it it's it's just 01:56:05.340 --> 01:56:07.340 it was on the book saying that you can't do that 01:56:07.340 --> 01:56:09.920 but this will happen i think one of the saddest 01:56:09.920 --> 01:56:14.300 things i saw was um so senator inouye from from 01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:19.100 hawaii he was the one -armed senator And this 01:56:19.100 --> 01:56:22.039 guy was the Medal of Honor recipient. And he 01:56:22.039 --> 01:56:27.439 was part of the 442nd. So the 442nd had the highest 01:56:27.439 --> 01:56:30.579 amount of Medal of Honor recipients in the history 01:56:30.579 --> 01:56:36.380 of the U .S. military. If you ever read up on 01:56:36.380 --> 01:56:39.979 him, it's insane what he did. They sent him all 01:56:39.979 --> 01:56:44.650 to Germany. And basically, he took out... like 01:56:44.650 --> 01:56:48.189 three or four gunner positions that were like 01:56:48.189 --> 01:56:50.689 entrenched in there. Two of them with one arm. 01:56:50.770 --> 01:56:52.949 He literally grabbed his arm, fucking stuck it 01:56:52.949 --> 01:56:54.869 in his back, you know, his backpack and just 01:56:54.869 --> 01:56:57.670 kept charging through with one arm. You know 01:56:57.670 --> 01:56:59.770 what I mean? To me, that's just blows my mind, 01:56:59.810 --> 01:57:02.670 you know? And the thing is, is that he took them 01:57:02.670 --> 01:57:05.210 out. And once he took them out, he took the injured 01:57:05.210 --> 01:57:07.069 and I think he saved like four people on the 01:57:07.069 --> 01:57:10.109 way back. This is insane to me. This is someone 01:57:10.109 --> 01:57:12.250 that like, that absolutely should be on the Medal 01:57:12.250 --> 01:57:14.720 of Honor doesn't even cut it. I mean, and the 01:57:14.720 --> 01:57:16.979 thing is, is that he came back to the U .S. And 01:57:16.979 --> 01:57:19.100 one of the saddest things I heard is that he 01:57:19.100 --> 01:57:21.159 came in full uniform with the Medal of Honor 01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:24.060 on to go get a haircut. And he was literally 01:57:24.060 --> 01:57:26.420 like, no, we don't serve your kind here. You 01:57:26.420 --> 01:57:29.520 know what I mean? And, you know, again, this 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:32.340 is World War II, you know, but at the same time, 01:57:32.979 --> 01:57:36.180 how is that? You know, we had internment camps 01:57:36.180 --> 01:57:39.920 in the U .S. You know, so this is still people. 01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.319 And he just recently passed. It wasn't like. 01:57:42.900 --> 01:57:45.159 ancient history were like 200 years ago. We're 01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:47.220 talking about like within our lifetimes where, 01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:51.060 you know, I saw him on TV. You know what I mean? 01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:52.819 I was like, oh shit, he's got one arm. You know 01:57:52.819 --> 01:57:55.439 what I mean? And so we're not talking about an 01:57:55.439 --> 01:57:57.500 ancient past. We're talking about the times that 01:57:57.500 --> 01:57:59.520 were there. We're talking about, you know, the 01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:02.699 last lynchings from the KKK were like in 1981. 01:58:03.739 --> 01:58:07.359 You know what I mean? And so when we say and 01:58:07.359 --> 01:58:09.220 dismiss this like, oh, that's ancient history 01:58:09.220 --> 01:58:11.060 that ended like during the Civil War or whatever 01:58:11.060 --> 01:58:14.449 that is. no i mean it's alive and well you know 01:58:14.449 --> 01:58:17.029 not as much not as apparent but i still believe 01:58:17.029 --> 01:58:19.649 yeah i mean again the last lynching from the 01:58:19.649 --> 01:58:23.909 kkk was in 1981 this isn't ancient this is during 01:58:23.909 --> 01:58:27.149 my lifetime you know what i mean and you know 01:58:27.149 --> 01:58:29.829 the jasper draggings in texas they this is all 01:58:29.829 --> 01:58:33.689 racially motivated so is it as widespread no 01:58:33.689 --> 01:58:36.210 it's definitely not as widespread as it was but 01:58:36.210 --> 01:58:38.630 is that mentality still entrenched in there i 01:58:38.630 --> 01:58:44.329 mean um is it No, but we still have, you know, 01:58:44.329 --> 01:58:47.930 these cases of that and it's still alive and 01:58:47.930 --> 01:58:50.710 well. It's just not as apparent and it's not 01:58:50.710 --> 01:58:54.729 as widespread as it used to be. But I still believe 01:58:54.729 --> 01:58:57.729 that, yeah, it's that there is a lot of racism 01:58:57.729 --> 01:58:59.909 still going along. No, it's not the backbone 01:58:59.909 --> 01:59:04.109 of America. But if someone from the, they use 01:59:04.109 --> 01:59:05.949 people from the Black community as like, oh, 01:59:05.949 --> 01:59:08.229 see, we had a Black president, you know, we had 01:59:08.229 --> 01:59:10.979 this, we had that. They're the exception, not 01:59:10.979 --> 01:59:13.800 the rule, though. And so as long as it stays 01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:16.640 that way, I think that's a determination of the 01:59:16.640 --> 01:59:19.319 racist factor that we have in the U .S. I'm probably 01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:21.340 going to get a lot of backlash from that, you 01:59:21.340 --> 01:59:24.500 know, but I stand true until someone can prove 01:59:24.500 --> 01:59:27.539 me otherwise that, you know, that the education 01:59:27.539 --> 01:59:30.640 system in primarily black areas is much lower. 01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:33.819 Right. We have, you know, the opportunities that 01:59:33.819 --> 01:59:36.840 they have is much lower. This whole DEI thing 01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:39.729 that people. Why would you take that – and it's 01:59:39.729 --> 01:59:41.869 pushed by the government. Like when they were 01:59:41.869 --> 01:59:45.409 taking down all the people that were like Medal 01:59:45.409 --> 01:59:48.210 of Honor recipients off the Army pages, you know 01:59:48.210 --> 01:59:50.890 what I mean? This is where it's still – you see 01:59:50.890 --> 01:59:52.729 it. It's still alive there. You see what I mean? 01:59:53.229 --> 01:59:54.949 And so when you're taking them off the pages 01:59:54.949 --> 01:59:56.590 and not giving them credit for it, I mean that's 01:59:56.590 --> 02:00:02.310 beyond wrong. That's demonstrably wrong. And 02:00:02.310 --> 02:00:04.550 how can you possibly do that to people that literally 02:00:04.550 --> 02:00:06.029 serve their country while they're still being 02:00:06.029 --> 02:00:08.340 hated? when they come back home why they couldn't 02:00:08.340 --> 02:00:10.579 be served at the same table at that same time 02:00:10.579 --> 02:00:13.600 and these are people that i've met you know what 02:00:13.600 --> 02:00:19.800 i mean so um it's not having um and if it's people 02:00:19.800 --> 02:00:25.500 that um like are are if they equate like if they 02:00:25.500 --> 02:00:27.619 have you know and i think people just misunderstand 02:00:27.619 --> 02:00:30.600 like this whole you know what it is is you have 02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:33.079 so many applicants and you have five of them 02:00:33.079 --> 02:00:35.699 that are black and they all have the same score 02:00:35.699 --> 02:00:38.159 well Shouldn't they have a chance for that as 02:00:38.159 --> 02:00:40.979 well? You know what I mean? It's not that they're 02:00:40.979 --> 02:00:43.159 getting special treatment. It's not that they're 02:00:43.159 --> 02:00:47.720 having, but if they're not able to have the same 02:00:47.720 --> 02:00:49.659 opportunities, for example, like the education 02:00:49.659 --> 02:00:54.960 and so forth, then we're not doing this right. 02:00:55.100 --> 02:00:57.539 You know what I mean? And it's a systematic problem. 02:00:58.300 --> 02:01:03.060 And again, I don't think it's widespread, but 02:01:03.060 --> 02:01:05.640 I think it definitely is a problem that's still 02:01:05.640 --> 02:01:07.909 alive and well. Well, I think if you've got a 02:01:07.909 --> 02:01:11.270 country of 330 million, if you think about that 02:01:11.270 --> 02:01:16.189 extremist 10%, that's 33 million people. So it's 02:01:16.189 --> 02:01:18.609 a lot of people. And I think it would seem like 02:01:18.609 --> 02:01:21.430 a lot. But the thing is, why are the middle 80 02:01:21.430 --> 02:01:24.300 % so quiet? you know the almost three million 02:01:24.300 --> 02:01:27.039 of us need to stand up and and you know be louder 02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:29.659 and again like even with the diversity thing 02:01:29.659 --> 02:01:32.779 you'll hear a lot of kind of animosity for the 02:01:32.779 --> 02:01:35.300 um affirmative action when it came to hiring 02:01:35.300 --> 02:01:37.420 because you know you'd have someone who happened 02:01:37.420 --> 02:01:39.619 to be the caucasian and they did all the right 02:01:39.619 --> 02:01:41.159 things and they trained hard and they prepared 02:01:41.159 --> 02:01:44.619 and in some hiring they were like no we need 02:01:44.619 --> 02:01:46.880 x amount of people of this this color whatever 02:01:46.880 --> 02:01:49.720 it is And they, you know, maybe didn't have the 02:01:49.720 --> 02:01:51.699 same score as the other person. But the other 02:01:51.699 --> 02:01:53.880 side of the conversation, as you said, is that, 02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:56.000 but did that person have the opportunity to train 02:01:56.000 --> 02:01:57.659 like that and be educated in the first place? 02:01:57.800 --> 02:02:01.020 So this is where I think, again, the middle conversation, 02:02:01.279 --> 02:02:04.300 if you want to build diversity in the fire service, 02:02:04.500 --> 02:02:07.180 I love, we've got a friend, Chris Hickman, who 02:02:07.180 --> 02:02:10.319 started a mentorship program here in Ocala, and 02:02:10.319 --> 02:02:12.619 they provide free mentorship. I think it's three 02:02:12.619 --> 02:02:15.300 times a week. They put it, you know, kind of. 02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:19.560 closer to the poorer area. So they will equip 02:02:19.560 --> 02:02:22.359 these kids. They will teach them. There are scholarships 02:02:22.359 --> 02:02:24.819 at a fire academy. So rather than scooping up 02:02:24.819 --> 02:02:26.460 a bunch of people from their skin color, they 02:02:26.460 --> 02:02:29.560 say, hey, underserved population, there's the 02:02:29.560 --> 02:02:32.539 bar. Let's try and get you to that point because 02:02:32.539 --> 02:02:33.720 A, you're going to reach it and you're going 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.399 to be a phenomenal firefighter. B, you'll go, 02:02:36.500 --> 02:02:38.260 you know what? This isn't for me. Or C, you'll 02:02:38.260 --> 02:02:39.859 try, you don't make it and then be like, all 02:02:39.859 --> 02:02:41.180 right, I'm going to move to do something else. 02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:44.840 Now you actually have a true... you know spectrum 02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:48.220 of your society but what we did with this whole 02:02:48.220 --> 02:02:51.159 you know pendulum thing is it went from no one 02:02:51.159 --> 02:02:53.199 was getting hired if they were of any color other 02:02:53.199 --> 02:02:55.520 than white to all of a sudden these affirmative 02:02:55.520 --> 02:02:58.520 action hires of which some were phenomenal firefighters 02:02:58.520 --> 02:03:00.899 but the chance of you getting the wrong kind 02:03:00.899 --> 02:03:02.819 of person when you lower bars or whatever it 02:03:02.819 --> 02:03:06.500 is is higher which then perpetuates more animosity 02:03:06.500 --> 02:03:09.859 in the middle now as you said there are just 02:03:09.859 --> 02:03:12.420 identifying that there are groups that do not 02:03:12.420 --> 02:03:15.239 have the same chances as other groups because 02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:17.720 of where they were born again bloop i'm an american 02:03:17.720 --> 02:03:20.319 yeah but which which area code am i in which 02:03:20.319 --> 02:03:23.000 street am i born into am i in a freaking crip 02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:25.539 neighborhood in south central or am i in beverly 02:03:25.539 --> 02:03:29.020 hills two very different shoots um so i think 02:03:29.020 --> 02:03:32.100 again that compassion empathy is like what is 02:03:32.100 --> 02:03:35.960 the actual issue like our school system if you 02:03:35.960 --> 02:03:38.720 aren't you don't do well you get penalized finland 02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:41.140 school system if you're a struggling school you 02:03:41.140 --> 02:03:45.489 get extra help you know so it but until we stop 02:03:45.489 --> 02:03:48.569 this kind of world war one trench thing of like 02:03:48.569 --> 02:03:51.010 you know racism from the whites racism from the 02:03:51.010 --> 02:03:52.909 blacks or whatever it is we're not just going 02:03:52.909 --> 02:03:54.510 to come in the middle and go well what is the 02:03:54.510 --> 02:03:56.810 fucking problem what is the root of the problem 02:03:56.810 --> 02:03:59.149 all right these assholes we get every four years 02:03:59.149 --> 02:04:01.689 check they're a problem you know the poverty 02:04:01.689 --> 02:04:03.810 here because i've been in lots of struggling 02:04:03.810 --> 02:04:06.050 neighborhoods where they're caucasian You know, 02:04:06.050 --> 02:04:09.470 and there's rampant crime and they wouldn't really 02:04:09.470 --> 02:04:11.210 feel like they were going to be a firefighter. 02:04:11.210 --> 02:04:13.270 So what is the underlying issue? And I think 02:04:13.270 --> 02:04:15.250 that's why we have to pull everyone together. 02:04:15.989 --> 02:04:18.609 I agree with that. You know, until they stop 02:04:18.609 --> 02:04:20.869 us fighting with each other, we're never going 02:04:20.869 --> 02:04:22.949 to get to the root of this. And we're always 02:04:22.949 --> 02:04:24.850 going to be at war, whether it's in a neighborhood, 02:04:25.069 --> 02:04:27.750 red and blue, or whether it's, you know, in different 02:04:27.750 --> 02:04:30.789 countries. I think one of the big things that 02:04:30.789 --> 02:04:32.630 especially like in the special operations community 02:04:32.630 --> 02:04:34.430 that comes up a lot is like women in special 02:04:34.430 --> 02:04:39.310 operations. Um, and so, especially like being 02:04:39.310 --> 02:04:41.489 around like the CrossFit community and it's community. 02:04:41.649 --> 02:04:46.649 And, and once you realize that there's some freaking 02:04:46.649 --> 02:04:50.630 women out there that can just out, out, outperform 02:04:50.630 --> 02:04:53.170 you in, in every aspect, you're just kind of 02:04:53.170 --> 02:04:55.829 like, Oh shit. You know, the, one of the, the, 02:04:55.909 --> 02:04:58.010 the conversations I have with people, especially 02:04:58.010 --> 02:05:01.949 with, with, you know, in jujitsu is I am so glad 02:05:01.949 --> 02:05:06.010 that I got my, you know, there was a girl um 02:05:06.010 --> 02:05:10.069 i was a white belt at the time i was uh and she 02:05:10.069 --> 02:05:11.989 was a blue belt and her name was snow dean i 02:05:11.989 --> 02:05:14.890 met her down in austin and she was like hey do 02:05:14.890 --> 02:05:18.170 you want to roll and yeah man no problem man 02:05:18.170 --> 02:05:23.430 but it was like yeah and um the crazy part is 02:05:23.430 --> 02:05:25.329 is that my mentality going in there i was like 02:05:25.329 --> 02:05:27.430 she's not gonna beat me i'm a man you know what 02:05:27.430 --> 02:05:29.090 i mean i literally came in at that mentality 02:05:29.090 --> 02:05:33.689 and And I truly believe that because I'm superior, 02:05:33.909 --> 02:05:36.369 because I'm stronger. I'm a man. I'm taller. 02:05:36.550 --> 02:05:38.329 You know, I have more strength. I'm going to 02:05:38.329 --> 02:05:43.270 beat her. And, you know, the cartoon where, like, 02:05:43.289 --> 02:05:45.729 Tom and Jerry, you know, where he gets in a fight 02:05:45.729 --> 02:05:48.010 with the bulldog, right? And you have nothing 02:05:48.010 --> 02:05:49.590 but smoke. And he's, like, trying to get out 02:05:49.590 --> 02:05:52.189 and gets pulled back in. That was around for, 02:05:52.270 --> 02:05:54.810 like, six minutes. I was running for my life. 02:05:55.350 --> 02:05:57.869 Like, everything I did, she shut down. She went 02:05:57.869 --> 02:06:00.229 around. She was, like, just on me, just, like. 02:06:01.740 --> 02:06:04.020 like, I mean, it was just crazy. Like everything 02:06:04.020 --> 02:06:05.899 I did was just get shut down. And I was straight 02:06:05.899 --> 02:06:09.260 in my mind. I'm going, hell shit. God damn it. 02:06:09.260 --> 02:06:12.079 Get off. I'm trying to get her off. And the thing 02:06:12.079 --> 02:06:14.760 was, is that, you know, I was so out of breath 02:06:14.760 --> 02:06:17.060 and I was trying, I was like, my face was flustered 02:06:17.060 --> 02:06:20.100 and she just kind of like, that's around. Thanks. 02:06:20.159 --> 02:06:22.380 And I just went on to the next one, you know, 02:06:22.399 --> 02:06:24.539 which I was like, Oh yeah, I appreciate it. And 02:06:24.539 --> 02:06:31.449 she turned around. Oh shit. I was in pain for 02:06:31.449 --> 02:06:33.369 fucking days because I just didn't want to tap. 02:06:33.470 --> 02:06:35.989 My elbow was hyperextended. My neck felt cranked 02:06:35.989 --> 02:06:40.149 up. But I'm so happy that I got that round so 02:06:40.149 --> 02:06:45.609 early on in my career. And to me, I'm like, I'll 02:06:45.609 --> 02:06:50.170 never underestimate a woman ever again. But in 02:06:50.170 --> 02:06:55.510 the special operations, to me, if we have a standard 02:06:55.510 --> 02:06:59.560 that needs to be made, male or female, If you 02:06:59.560 --> 02:07:02.060 meet that standard, you should be in. Bottom 02:07:02.060 --> 02:07:03.960 line, if you meet the standard, we're not going 02:07:03.960 --> 02:07:06.279 to change the standard. But if you meet that 02:07:06.279 --> 02:07:09.819 standard, what is the problem? I don't understand 02:07:09.819 --> 02:07:12.939 that. They're like, oh, well, women are psychological. 02:07:13.199 --> 02:07:15.220 No, it's horseshit. I've met some nasty women 02:07:15.220 --> 02:07:18.180 before. You know what I mean? They're worse than 02:07:18.180 --> 02:07:21.500 some men. And the thing is, and we're talking 02:07:21.500 --> 02:07:23.859 about physical boundaries, again, if they meet 02:07:23.859 --> 02:07:26.039 the standard, what is the problem with it? I 02:07:26.039 --> 02:07:29.420 don't find anything wrong with that. because 02:07:29.420 --> 02:07:32.739 we have shit bags in every branch and every branch 02:07:32.739 --> 02:07:35.979 is spotted. And we have in CAG, in SF, in Rangers, 02:07:36.079 --> 02:07:38.960 shit flips through the cracks sometimes. And 02:07:38.960 --> 02:07:40.880 you're going to have a shit bag in every branch. 02:07:40.960 --> 02:07:44.619 It doesn't matter. So if someone actually is 02:07:44.619 --> 02:07:47.380 there, and I say someone specifically, because 02:07:47.380 --> 02:07:49.279 I don't want to say male or female, if they make 02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:51.840 the standard and they make the cut, you're in. 02:07:52.100 --> 02:07:56.119 Just leave it at that. And if they make the same 02:07:56.119 --> 02:07:58.159 standard as everyone else, what is the problem 02:07:58.159 --> 02:08:01.529 with that? And you have these discussions constantly 02:08:01.529 --> 02:08:03.710 in there. And there's more and more, especially 02:08:03.710 --> 02:08:06.090 like you mainly have it from like the older generation, 02:08:06.229 --> 02:08:08.970 like the boomer generation. But the, you know, 02:08:08.970 --> 02:08:11.029 the Gen X and the millennials, you know, it's 02:08:11.029 --> 02:08:13.470 like if they make the standard, that's it. Just 02:08:13.470 --> 02:08:16.090 leave it at that. You know what I mean? And I 02:08:16.090 --> 02:08:19.750 encourage women to go do that because guess what? 02:08:19.850 --> 02:08:22.329 They probably do a lot better at like human, 02:08:22.409 --> 02:08:24.670 you know, intel gathering and so forth in some 02:08:24.670 --> 02:08:26.829 places that, you know, other people, they wouldn't 02:08:26.829 --> 02:08:29.380 expect it. You know what I mean? They can, they're, 02:08:29.380 --> 02:08:32.680 you know, I don't blend anywhere for fuck's sake, 02:08:32.699 --> 02:08:34.319 dude. I go over there and they're like, yeah, 02:08:34.399 --> 02:08:37.039 I was doing a surveillance and counter surveillance 02:08:37.039 --> 02:08:38.699 course. And they're like, yeah, you're staying 02:08:38.699 --> 02:08:41.899 in the car. You'll do that, you know, but you're 02:08:41.899 --> 02:08:43.560 not walking around. You don't blend in anywhere. 02:08:43.699 --> 02:08:46.720 And they're absolutely right. The women in that 02:08:46.720 --> 02:08:48.619 course, they did phenomenal. You know what I 02:08:48.619 --> 02:08:51.520 mean? And the thing is, is that if they, again, 02:08:51.659 --> 02:08:53.260 they make the standard, leave it at that bottom 02:08:53.260 --> 02:08:55.680 line. A hundred percent. I've always said this. 02:08:56.199 --> 02:08:58.000 Beautiful thing about the fire service is if 02:08:58.000 --> 02:08:59.899 we're in a fire, so we're wearing all our gear, 02:09:00.060 --> 02:09:03.899 there's only one prejudice. They either can or 02:09:03.899 --> 02:09:05.880 they can't. You can sure as shit see the person 02:09:05.880 --> 02:09:08.319 who can't, who's terrible at their job when they're 02:09:08.319 --> 02:09:09.979 wearing their gear, but you can't tell if it's 02:09:09.979 --> 02:09:13.100 a gay, you know, male, straight, trans or whatever. 02:09:13.420 --> 02:09:16.119 It's a good firefighter or it's a bad firefighter. 02:09:16.119 --> 02:09:18.140 And that's a prejudice that should be there because 02:09:18.140 --> 02:09:20.920 that is that standard. I want to be mindful of 02:09:20.920 --> 02:09:22.539 your time. We've been talking for two hours now, 02:09:22.619 --> 02:09:24.960 but just one more area, because this is, again, 02:09:25.119 --> 02:09:27.100 this relates, you know, rounds off to what we've 02:09:27.100 --> 02:09:30.619 been talking about this last part. Again, black 02:09:30.619 --> 02:09:35.199 and white. When we talk about Israel at the moment, 02:09:35.239 --> 02:09:39.859 that entire country is really kind of being held 02:09:39.859 --> 02:09:42.279 at what's being done by this certain group of 02:09:42.279 --> 02:09:45.479 people in Gaza. I would imagine the same as Russia, 02:09:45.560 --> 02:09:48.239 the same as all these other places that. There's 02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:50.859 a majority of people that either are just kind 02:09:50.859 --> 02:09:53.500 of neutral or vehemently opposed to this. I would 02:09:53.500 --> 02:09:56.600 hope it would be the latter that just aren't 02:09:56.600 --> 02:09:59.460 being given a voice at the moment. So in your 02:09:59.460 --> 02:10:02.119 kind of, you know, readings and explorations, 02:10:02.199 --> 02:10:05.600 talk to me about the kind of the resistance voice 02:10:05.600 --> 02:10:08.279 in Israel, these atrocities happening under their 02:10:08.279 --> 02:10:14.699 flag. So one of the big things that I've realized 02:10:14.699 --> 02:10:18.180 is that, you know, that every. And this has become 02:10:18.180 --> 02:10:21.180 more apparent the more I kind of dig in is that 02:10:21.180 --> 02:10:26.239 every accusation, excuse me, every accusation 02:10:26.239 --> 02:10:31.659 is actually a confession. So you have I've seen 02:10:31.659 --> 02:10:35.640 several videos and not just of kids in schools 02:10:35.640 --> 02:10:38.659 being brought up to hate them and that they're 02:10:38.659 --> 02:10:40.460 terrorists and they only want bad things. But 02:10:40.460 --> 02:10:42.060 you have people in the street and I think it's 02:10:42.060 --> 02:10:44.399 a generational thing. And again. One of the biggest 02:10:44.399 --> 02:10:47.880 things is when you have that, then you're going 02:10:47.880 --> 02:10:50.000 to have a society that's the problem. If you 02:10:50.000 --> 02:10:51.699 take Netanyahu out of the problem, you know, 02:10:51.739 --> 02:10:54.039 out of the picture, you're still going to have 02:10:54.039 --> 02:10:56.819 people like Ben -Gavir and Smotrich, right? And 02:10:56.819 --> 02:10:59.640 Ben -Gavir literally by the only Israeli courts 02:10:59.640 --> 02:11:02.800 got convicted of terrorism, right? And he wasn't 02:11:02.800 --> 02:11:05.079 able to serve the MDF because he's that far extremist, 02:11:05.079 --> 02:11:06.920 but he's still a politician. He still has a voice 02:11:06.920 --> 02:11:09.939 in the far right party. So when you have people 02:11:09.939 --> 02:11:12.220 like that and you have a society like that, and 02:11:12.220 --> 02:11:15.079 when 83 percent, there was a Haaretz poll that 02:11:15.079 --> 02:11:18.600 was done, 83 percent of the Israeli population 02:11:18.600 --> 02:11:24.359 agrees that Gaza should be just completely annihilated, 02:11:24.359 --> 02:11:27.199 destroyed, taken over. Well, that's no longer 02:11:27.199 --> 02:11:30.560 a leader, a prime minister that's saying this. 02:11:30.659 --> 02:11:33.079 And once he's taken out, that's literally a society 02:11:33.079 --> 02:11:35.100 that's saying this. You know what I mean? I think 02:11:35.100 --> 02:11:37.020 that's one of the biggest problems. Are all Israelis 02:11:37.020 --> 02:11:40.000 bad? No. I'm not saying that. But the overwhelming 02:11:40.000 --> 02:11:42.199 majority, you know, that believes that these 02:11:42.199 --> 02:11:43.920 people are second class citizens, that they're 02:11:43.920 --> 02:11:45.960 terrorists, that they should lose their home. 02:11:46.020 --> 02:11:50.539 And that is a societal issue. You know what I 02:11:50.539 --> 02:11:52.060 mean? They've been brought up to believe that. 02:11:52.720 --> 02:11:55.760 And I don't think they've ever had any accountability 02:11:55.760 --> 02:11:58.260 because they always had that shield of utilizing, 02:11:58.500 --> 02:12:00.899 you know, what's happened at the Holocaust. Like, 02:12:00.920 --> 02:12:03.300 oh, you're anti -Semitic or you're a Holocaust 02:12:03.300 --> 02:12:05.539 denier. And they try to throw that out to end 02:12:05.539 --> 02:12:09.300 the conversation. And I think that's one of the 02:12:09.300 --> 02:12:12.680 biggest problems is that they're not held accountable. 02:12:14.840 --> 02:12:19.199 The US has used more veto power to defend Israel 02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:23.100 than any other instance in the history of the 02:12:23.100 --> 02:12:28.340 UN. They literally have. Now, when you have these 02:12:28.340 --> 02:12:30.920 issues like that, where they're actually like 02:12:30.920 --> 02:12:35.079 no accountability. you can, you're literally 02:12:35.079 --> 02:12:36.859 getting away with murder right now. You have 02:12:36.859 --> 02:12:39.359 IDF soldiers that are on Tik TOK and you have 02:12:39.359 --> 02:12:41.340 that shit bag destiny going over there and saying, 02:12:41.359 --> 02:12:43.039 Oh, stop putting on Tik TOK, trying to give them 02:12:43.039 --> 02:12:44.960 defense for that because they're utilizing against 02:12:44.960 --> 02:12:48.159 them because it's a fucking war crime. That's 02:12:48.159 --> 02:12:50.380 why, you know what I mean? Like, and he's like, 02:12:50.500 --> 02:12:52.420 Oh, just keep it down. Don't, don't publicize 02:12:52.420 --> 02:12:55.920 that. Um, when you have that mentality, when 02:12:55.920 --> 02:12:59.220 you have like no accountability and again, if 02:12:59.220 --> 02:13:01.399 they want to pick a fight with all, all the world, 02:13:01.479 --> 02:13:03.279 you know, especially like in the middle East, 02:13:03.710 --> 02:13:05.649 And they don't have the funding to do that. And 02:13:05.649 --> 02:13:08.390 now they're starting to, you know, when what 02:13:08.390 --> 02:13:11.050 I'm what I'm happy about is that they picked 02:13:11.050 --> 02:13:13.170 on a country that fought back. You know what 02:13:13.170 --> 02:13:15.329 I mean? They attacked Iran. They weren't expecting 02:13:15.329 --> 02:13:17.390 what they did. And they sent in lobbing missiles 02:13:17.390 --> 02:13:20.109 and they still had our help to defend that. Right. 02:13:20.170 --> 02:13:24.270 They still had the the the they destroyed some 02:13:24.270 --> 02:13:27.229 of the missiles that were coming in. But a lot 02:13:27.229 --> 02:13:28.930 of them made it through. And now they're there. 02:13:29.529 --> 02:13:31.550 The Palestinians, they're not running anywhere. 02:13:31.899 --> 02:13:33.079 You know what I mean? They're staying to defend 02:13:33.079 --> 02:13:35.420 their land because they feel they belong there. 02:13:35.500 --> 02:13:38.979 If you see right now what's happening is that 02:13:38.979 --> 02:13:41.960 the, remember when the, especially in the beginning 02:13:41.960 --> 02:13:44.260 of the war, they're saying, oh, they're launching 02:13:44.260 --> 02:13:46.319 missiles from hospitals and schools and everything 02:13:46.319 --> 02:13:50.039 else. There's little actual video footage of 02:13:50.039 --> 02:13:52.399 them launching missiles from the middle of Tel 02:13:52.399 --> 02:13:55.739 Aviv. You see what I mean? So everything that 02:13:55.739 --> 02:13:58.079 they're accusing the Palestinians of doing and 02:13:58.079 --> 02:13:59.840 Hamas doing, they're literally doing themselves. 02:14:00.960 --> 02:14:03.979 And they're targeting hospitals. They're targeting 02:14:03.979 --> 02:14:07.100 schools. You're saying that every single hospital, 02:14:07.239 --> 02:14:09.439 there was like a military command center under 02:14:09.439 --> 02:14:15.739 there. The Harvard statistic, or last year, Lancet 02:14:15.739 --> 02:14:19.079 was the medical journal. This is an independent 02:14:19.079 --> 02:14:22.100 verification. They estimated between 187 ,000. 02:14:22.180 --> 02:14:24.220 If you fast forward to today, Harvard came up 02:14:24.220 --> 02:14:26.720 with an estimate just recently that there's like 02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:31.289 330 ,000. um casualties you know that happened 02:14:31.289 --> 02:14:34.770 there and hamas is only they this is coming from 02:14:34.770 --> 02:14:38.609 from israel that the armed branch of hamas um 02:14:38.609 --> 02:14:43.409 was is only like 30 000 so right now we have 02:14:43.409 --> 02:14:46.069 like 65 000 that that's completely accounted 02:14:46.069 --> 02:14:49.470 for but we have all these estimates coming from 02:14:49.470 --> 02:14:53.489 third parties you know that are showing otherwise. 02:14:53.569 --> 02:14:55.390 And they're targeting journalists, they're targeting 02:14:55.390 --> 02:14:57.149 medical personnel. And these are coming from 02:14:57.149 --> 02:14:59.449 the people on the ground that literally from 02:14:59.449 --> 02:15:02.090 the UK, from the US, that are saying, yeah, we 02:15:02.090 --> 02:15:05.289 got kids with bullet holes in their heads. These 02:15:05.289 --> 02:15:08.789 are, you know, and it's happening so much, but 02:15:08.789 --> 02:15:11.069 who's holding them accountable, right? And they're 02:15:11.069 --> 02:15:13.729 like, and you have the people that in Israel 02:15:13.729 --> 02:15:18.609 that are saying that they are, that all Palestinians 02:15:18.609 --> 02:15:20.050 are terrorists because they're going to grow 02:15:20.050 --> 02:15:22.689 up to be terrorists. And they have that mentality. 02:15:22.850 --> 02:15:26.409 So I think it's a societal problem that has been 02:15:26.409 --> 02:15:28.829 ingrained for so long. They've been taught to 02:15:28.829 --> 02:15:31.229 hate. I mean, and so when Iran started bombing 02:15:31.229 --> 02:15:34.710 them, you saw people on the beach that were like, 02:15:34.829 --> 02:15:36.470 oh, no, we're going to get to our bomb shelters. 02:15:36.750 --> 02:15:38.890 And one of the things that you saw commonly happen 02:15:38.890 --> 02:15:41.909 is that they weren't allowing non -Jews into 02:15:41.909 --> 02:15:45.130 the bomb shelters. That's a societal problem. 02:15:45.329 --> 02:15:49.310 That's no longer just like the politicians making 02:15:49.310 --> 02:15:54.220 the... the determination of what should be done. 02:15:54.420 --> 02:15:56.899 It's literally like the society saying, no, we're 02:15:56.899 --> 02:16:00.180 not allowing it. Israel doesn't have borders 02:16:00.180 --> 02:16:02.920 by design, so they continually expand the illegal 02:16:02.920 --> 02:16:05.119 settlements that are happening. They just approved 02:16:05.119 --> 02:16:07.680 like 21 more, and this has been the most violent 02:16:07.680 --> 02:16:10.020 year in the West Bank. Hamas is not in the fucking 02:16:10.020 --> 02:16:13.079 West Bank. They're not in control there. These 02:16:13.079 --> 02:16:15.180 are illegal Israeli settlers that are going there 02:16:15.180 --> 02:16:16.939 and burning homes, that are killing Palestinians, 02:16:17.140 --> 02:16:20.810 backed up by the IDF. And I saw that firsthand 02:16:20.810 --> 02:16:25.630 when I was there. There was a farm and there 02:16:25.630 --> 02:16:28.590 was a brand new Israeli settlement that had been 02:16:28.590 --> 02:16:32.190 built there. And they would go in at night. And 02:16:32.190 --> 02:16:34.409 I was there and I have pictures of the burnt 02:16:34.409 --> 02:16:36.829 fields, right? They would burn their fields and 02:16:36.829 --> 02:16:38.809 they literally have the IDF soldiers that were 02:16:38.809 --> 02:16:41.870 accompanying them. The day after we left, they 02:16:41.870 --> 02:16:44.590 did a raid in that area and 30 Palestinians were 02:16:44.590 --> 02:16:47.510 taken into the detention center. So now what 02:16:47.510 --> 02:16:49.930 we're talking about is... You don't have to talk 02:16:49.930 --> 02:16:51.889 about the hostages anymore, right? Because it 02:16:51.889 --> 02:16:54.629 was never about the hostages. It never was. It 02:16:54.629 --> 02:16:56.790 was all about the same thing. They just wanted 02:16:56.790 --> 02:16:59.590 to level Gaza. And they did this systematically. 02:17:00.030 --> 02:17:02.610 They've been doing this. And little by little 02:17:02.610 --> 02:17:04.569 have been taken over. The problem with this is 02:17:04.569 --> 02:17:08.510 that now people aren't buying their bullshit 02:17:08.510 --> 02:17:11.809 anymore, right? The entire world is sin. And 02:17:11.809 --> 02:17:13.709 the entire world is starting to condemn them. 02:17:15.120 --> 02:17:17.659 The people that are literally holding on the 02:17:17.659 --> 02:17:21.260 tightest is the U .S. more than anything else. 02:17:21.299 --> 02:17:26.020 We're literally like the big bully that is defending 02:17:26.020 --> 02:17:28.360 the loudmouth friend, right? They're going in, 02:17:28.399 --> 02:17:30.360 picking a fight, and then running behind it because 02:17:30.360 --> 02:17:32.200 they wouldn't be doing any shit if they didn't 02:17:32.200 --> 02:17:34.299 have the money for the missile systems that they've 02:17:34.299 --> 02:17:36.639 been using, right? And they're saying, well, 02:17:36.680 --> 02:17:40.840 they keep lobbying. There's regulations for a 02:17:40.840 --> 02:17:43.920 prison in the United States where you can't have 02:17:43.920 --> 02:17:46.809 a house. literally right outside the prison, 02:17:46.889 --> 02:17:49.590 right? Why would that be? For the safety of the 02:17:49.590 --> 02:17:53.049 fucking community, right? But in Gaza, they walled 02:17:53.049 --> 02:17:54.930 them off and then they have all these settlements 02:17:54.930 --> 02:17:58.370 literally within feet, right? Within a couple 02:17:58.370 --> 02:18:01.409 hundred feet of that wall. And so those are the 02:18:01.409 --> 02:18:04.170 human shields. You see what I mean? Because these 02:18:04.170 --> 02:18:06.030 people that are being oppressed in there and 02:18:06.030 --> 02:18:08.930 they have autonomous weapons pointing in. And 02:18:08.930 --> 02:18:10.750 they have bombings. And they were saying there 02:18:10.750 --> 02:18:12.930 was peace in Gaza before that. No, they still 02:18:12.930 --> 02:18:14.469 had to control the water. They had to control 02:18:14.469 --> 02:18:16.409 the air. They controlled the sea. They weren't 02:18:16.409 --> 02:18:22.209 allowed to leave without having lines and lines 02:18:22.209 --> 02:18:25.909 of cattle being rushed in there, constantly being 02:18:25.909 --> 02:18:30.790 dehumanized. They had air raids. I think it was 02:18:30.790 --> 02:18:34.209 like September 23rd of 2023, they bombed the 02:18:34.209 --> 02:18:37.090 shit out of the West Bank and in Gaza. Right. 02:18:37.129 --> 02:18:39.930 Like the month of September, there was the highest 02:18:39.930 --> 02:18:43.209 amount of death between January 1st and January, 02:18:43.469 --> 02:18:47.590 excuse me, in September 2023. There was the highest 02:18:47.590 --> 02:18:50.729 amount of Palestinians killed in like two decades. 02:18:51.329 --> 02:18:57.450 And this is in the West Bank. So but these people 02:18:57.450 --> 02:19:00.760 don't hear that and they don't hear about. You 02:19:00.760 --> 02:19:02.579 know, the the bombing raids that they're doing. 02:19:02.620 --> 02:19:05.639 And again, they're walled in in a 25 by five 02:19:05.639 --> 02:19:08.879 area. Where the fuck are they going to go? And 02:19:08.879 --> 02:19:12.739 the most densely populated area in the world, 02:19:12.780 --> 02:19:16.959 which has in, by the way, that the most like 02:19:16.959 --> 02:19:19.399 the thing that sets me off about more than anything 02:19:19.399 --> 02:19:22.000 else is when people bring up Hollywood. Right. 02:19:22.260 --> 02:19:24.399 Oh, they're making this up. It's fake. It's whatever. 02:19:24.840 --> 02:19:27.719 They have the highest amount of children amputees. 02:19:28.329 --> 02:19:31.629 in in the entire world than any conflict in the 02:19:31.629 --> 02:19:34.149 21st century or excuse me in the 20th century 02:19:34.149 --> 02:19:38.469 right in the in the last like 125 years the highest 02:19:38.469 --> 02:19:42.450 amount of amputee children in any conflict and 02:19:42.450 --> 02:19:44.989 especially such a short amount of time how the 02:19:44.989 --> 02:19:47.309 fuck are you gonna you know fake that you know 02:19:47.309 --> 02:19:49.530 what i mean they just want to believe something 02:19:49.530 --> 02:19:51.770 else and this is where i think one of the biggest 02:19:51.770 --> 02:19:54.479 problems is And this is an entire society that's 02:19:54.479 --> 02:19:57.180 been believed that they are somewhat just and 02:19:57.180 --> 02:19:59.079 that this land was promised them 2 ,000 years 02:19:59.079 --> 02:20:02.059 ago. And it's becoming a running joke now. The 02:20:02.059 --> 02:20:03.680 one thing I'm happy about seeing is people seeing 02:20:03.680 --> 02:20:06.100 through that bullshit. And again, I don't support 02:20:06.100 --> 02:20:08.840 Iran. I think any type of theocracy is dangerous, 02:20:08.940 --> 02:20:13.079 including your Israels. But when you have a theocracy, 02:20:13.299 --> 02:20:16.620 it's only going to end bad. And I'm not supporting 02:20:16.620 --> 02:20:18.799 the Iranian government. By all means, I support 02:20:18.799 --> 02:20:21.280 the people in there because they don't have that 02:20:21.280 --> 02:20:24.690 choice. Right. Any type of dissent has been crushed. 02:20:25.309 --> 02:20:28.090 And that's one of the biggest problems. So I'm 02:20:28.090 --> 02:20:30.909 not supporting the government of Israel. But 02:20:30.909 --> 02:20:34.049 bombing the civilians isn't really going to help. 02:20:35.790 --> 02:20:38.969 In either case, not in Gaza, not in the West 02:20:38.969 --> 02:20:43.149 Bank, not in Tehran. And they got to get out 02:20:43.149 --> 02:20:45.149 of that. They got to stop doing that. And I think 02:20:45.149 --> 02:20:47.709 they should be held accountable, just like anybody 02:20:47.709 --> 02:20:52.360 else. And if we actually hold Iraq to that standard 02:20:52.360 --> 02:20:54.760 where we went in where they had only so many, 02:20:54.819 --> 02:20:59.620 like 17 violations, and Israel has 34, they should 02:20:59.620 --> 02:21:01.639 be held accountable. Why don't we, we should 02:21:01.639 --> 02:21:05.139 be, if Dimona, if they're able to have nuclear 02:21:05.139 --> 02:21:07.620 weapons, they should have to sign the Non -Proliferation 02:21:07.620 --> 02:21:10.219 Treaty. They should have inspections. They should 02:21:10.219 --> 02:21:13.299 be able, again, held accountable for that. And 02:21:13.299 --> 02:21:14.840 that's, I think, one of the biggest problems 02:21:14.840 --> 02:21:16.760 is they're not held accountable for shit, and 02:21:16.760 --> 02:21:20.659 they get away with murder, literally. I kind 02:21:20.659 --> 02:21:25.399 of wonder how our World War II generation would 02:21:25.399 --> 02:21:28.440 feel about what's going on, like just standing 02:21:28.440 --> 02:21:31.219 there and turning our head or even arming what's 02:21:31.219 --> 02:21:33.540 going on with the very thing that they were doing 02:21:33.540 --> 02:21:37.700 to protect the victims of genocide and obviously 02:21:37.700 --> 02:21:40.000 the victims of just the invasion in, you know, 02:21:40.040 --> 02:21:44.229 39 to 45. And then the same. In Israel, I would 02:21:44.229 --> 02:21:46.489 imagine that a lot of people, you know, that 02:21:46.489 --> 02:21:49.629 lost their entire family or whatever it was during, 02:21:49.750 --> 02:21:51.930 you know, Auschwitz and other areas of the Holocaust. 02:21:52.489 --> 02:21:54.290 What would they think now? We could bring all 02:21:54.290 --> 02:21:56.510 those people now and show them this is 2025. 02:21:56.870 --> 02:21:59.190 What would they think? I bet you they would be 02:21:59.190 --> 02:22:01.530 fucking appalled. Both the American, you know, 02:22:01.530 --> 02:22:04.409 the allied ones and the people that were, you 02:22:04.409 --> 02:22:06.229 know, ultimately moved to Israel. I'm talking 02:22:06.229 --> 02:22:08.709 about Israelis specifically. So this is, again, 02:22:08.889 --> 02:22:11.010 this just underlines, you know, the normal people 02:22:11.010 --> 02:22:13.139 would never have let this happen. And they would 02:22:13.139 --> 02:22:15.879 be appalled at what's happened, you know, only 02:22:15.879 --> 02:22:18.579 80 short years since all those tragedies occurred 02:22:18.579 --> 02:22:23.260 in our history. I agree 100%. And I think the 02:22:23.260 --> 02:22:26.659 whole never again applies to everyone. Never 02:22:26.659 --> 02:22:29.360 again for anyone, not just, you know, the Jews. 02:22:29.559 --> 02:22:32.379 It shouldn't happen to anyone. But I think that's 02:22:32.379 --> 02:22:34.200 the problem is that they feel like they got a 02:22:34.200 --> 02:22:38.360 monopoly on that. And to me, honestly, it's because 02:22:38.360 --> 02:22:43.569 I grew up in Germany. I've been to Poland four 02:22:43.569 --> 02:22:49.409 times. And if anyone goes to any of the death 02:22:49.409 --> 02:22:50.850 camps, concentration camps, they're going to 02:22:50.850 --> 02:22:56.389 be changed. It's one of those things where I 02:22:56.389 --> 02:22:59.709 ask myself, what would I have done at that time? 02:22:59.809 --> 02:23:04.950 Would I have the moral courage to speak out about 02:23:04.950 --> 02:23:09.530 this? And it's because of these places that... 02:23:10.040 --> 02:23:12.440 changed my mind. It's because of these places 02:23:12.440 --> 02:23:16.940 that I, that, that I feel I have to speak out 02:23:16.940 --> 02:23:21.620 because it's happening again. And, and just because 02:23:21.620 --> 02:23:24.139 it's a different type of person because it's 02:23:24.139 --> 02:23:26.819 a different religion or because they're different 02:23:26.819 --> 02:23:29.059 color, they're, they're Brown and they're Muslim. 02:23:30.719 --> 02:23:33.760 What, how does that change that? It's, it's another 02:23:33.760 --> 02:23:36.770 genocide. It's, it's ethnic cleansing. It's all 02:23:36.770 --> 02:23:38.989 the things that happened to them. And it's because 02:23:38.989 --> 02:23:41.790 I experienced and because I've seen the things 02:23:41.790 --> 02:23:45.170 that have happened then, not in person, like 02:23:45.170 --> 02:23:49.430 I was in World War II, but if you go to Auschwitz, 02:23:49.430 --> 02:23:53.790 if you go to any of the concentration camps and 02:23:53.790 --> 02:23:56.530 death camps, it's going to change you. You know 02:23:56.530 --> 02:23:59.969 what I mean? And so either you can, and the thing 02:23:59.969 --> 02:24:02.469 is, is that they've been able to manipulate that 02:24:02.469 --> 02:24:06.290 to the point where. um use that as like a shield 02:24:06.290 --> 02:24:08.629 like if you speak out against it you're anti 02:24:08.629 --> 02:24:10.450 -semitic and you're holocaust denier and anything 02:24:10.450 --> 02:24:12.610 else it's like no because of that is why i'm 02:24:12.610 --> 02:24:14.229 speaking out because i don't want that to happen 02:24:14.229 --> 02:24:16.389 to anyone exactly it's just wrong to happen to 02:24:16.389 --> 02:24:19.090 anyone and anyone that actually like is is against 02:24:19.090 --> 02:24:22.069 that you're literally saying genocide for thee 02:24:22.069 --> 02:24:25.549 but not for me you know what i mean and i think 02:24:25.549 --> 02:24:28.989 that's absolutely just despicably you know it's 02:24:28.989 --> 02:24:32.110 despicable by by and vile and just absolutely 02:24:32.110 --> 02:24:37.750 disgusting 100%. Well, I think that's a good 02:24:37.750 --> 02:24:39.649 place to round off. We've been chatting for quite 02:24:39.649 --> 02:24:41.829 a while, but I mean, this has been so important 02:24:41.829 --> 02:24:44.049 because you don't hear this very often. I'm sure 02:24:44.049 --> 02:24:46.350 there's some podcasts and things, they talk about 02:24:46.350 --> 02:24:49.709 this a lot, but on most people's radar, you don't. 02:24:49.709 --> 02:24:51.549 And this is coming from a kindness, compassion, 02:24:51.989 --> 02:24:55.920 humanity. lens it's not leaning in one way it's 02:24:55.920 --> 02:24:58.180 just this is wrong this is right and again you 02:24:58.180 --> 02:25:00.559 hit on the on the the term that i talk about 02:25:00.559 --> 02:25:02.540 even the fire service moral courage you know 02:25:02.540 --> 02:25:06.040 we have fire chiefs that just roll over you know 02:25:06.040 --> 02:25:08.120 in their beds while their men and women are being 02:25:08.120 --> 02:25:10.399 buried because of their poor decisions same thing 02:25:10.399 --> 02:25:12.239 you know you either have moral courage and you 02:25:12.239 --> 02:25:13.680 don't and i think this is what's so important 02:25:13.680 --> 02:25:16.520 about conversations like this that you know we 02:25:16.520 --> 02:25:19.500 have to have We have to shed light on what is 02:25:19.500 --> 02:25:21.139 wrong. And we have to, as you said, hold the 02:25:21.139 --> 02:25:23.780 people that are doing the wrongdoing accountable 02:25:23.780 --> 02:25:25.739 for these things and make sure it doesn't happen 02:25:25.739 --> 02:25:28.180 again. Because one of the biggest tragedies happened 02:25:28.180 --> 02:25:31.479 to the Jewish people. So this isn't about a religion. 02:25:31.579 --> 02:25:34.739 It's about not letting that same kind of atrocity 02:25:34.739 --> 02:25:38.159 happen again. God forbid, attached to the very 02:25:38.159 --> 02:25:40.979 religion, the very types of people that, you 02:25:40.979 --> 02:25:44.500 know, our combined nations, our forefathers fought 02:25:44.500 --> 02:25:47.090 to liberate. all those years ago. It's up to 02:25:47.090 --> 02:25:49.950 us. They've all gone. They gave their lives and 02:25:49.950 --> 02:25:52.209 they've now passed on. It's up to our generation 02:25:52.209 --> 02:25:54.250 to be their voices and make sure it doesn't happen 02:25:54.250 --> 02:25:56.969 again. So I want to thank you so much for being 02:25:56.969 --> 02:25:59.149 so generous with your time and so courageous 02:25:59.149 --> 02:26:01.209 with your voice and coming on the Behind the 02:26:01.209 --> 02:26:04.430 Shield podcast today. Great conversation, man. 02:26:04.430 --> 02:26:07.030 I always appreciate it, man. And you have some 02:26:07.030 --> 02:26:09.950 great shows. I really enjoy them. I appreciate 02:26:09.950 --> 02:26:12.610 you having me on. It's definitely an honor to 02:26:12.610 --> 02:26:15.989 be part of that. Some big hitters on there, man. 02:26:16.049 --> 02:26:17.829 I just hope you keep doing what you're doing 02:26:17.829 --> 02:26:22.969 and, you know, please keep speaking out. Keep 02:26:22.969 --> 02:26:23.850 finding a good fight, bro.