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to episode 370 of Behind the Shield podcast.

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As always, my name is James Gearing, and this

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week it is my absolute pleasure to welcome on

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the show the Juice Master. Jason Vale. Now Jason

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reversed his own ill health and obesity using

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juicing and then went on to write a host of books,

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create a documentary, an app and even resorts

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so that people can also learn about the same

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experience. My wife and I even did one of his

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three -day juice resets and were amazed how well

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it worked. So I am speaking from experience in

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this conversation as well. So we discuss a host

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of topics from his own childhood trauma to owning

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your own history, the roots of addiction, how

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he started smoking, the amazing disease reversal

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he's seen through many of the people that have

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come through his resorts, and so much more. Before

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we get to that interview, as I say, every single

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is that you share these incredible men and women's

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episodes so I can get their stories to every

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single person on planet Earth. that needs to

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hear them. So with that being said, I introduce

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to you, Jason Vale. Enjoy. Well, Jason, I want

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to start by saying thank you so much for taking

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the time to come on the Behind the Show podcast

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today. Thank you, James. Really appreciate being

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on. And where on planet Earth are we finding

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you today? Time of recording this, I'm in Spain.

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But I spend most of my time between Spain, Portugal

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and England. Well, UK at the moment. Fantastic.

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Well, obviously, we're going to get into why

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you're in Spain a little bit later. But where

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were you born? And then tell me about your family

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dynamic, what your parents did and how many siblings.

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Yeah, well, that's easy. No parents, plural,

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and no siblings. So that's fairly easy to retort.

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So no brothers, no sisters, no father, just me

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and my mum, born in London. It's really, it's

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almost like, where do you start when you start

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talking about this stuff? But, you know, brought

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up in a place called Streatham, southeast London,

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seven years, shared a house with my mum's. my

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auntie, and therefore my cousin, my auntie's

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daughter, for seven years. But then something

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went very wrong in the sense that you wouldn't

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imagine your own family member doing this, but

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essentially the house was sold and this sister

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ran off with all the money. And genuine story,

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we were on the streets. This isn't a... violin

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story in any way shape or form we all have our

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stories and challenges but we were genuinely

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living on the streets in in london me and my

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mother and the local authorities said that they

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would um happily look after me providing um that

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they remove me from her in other words i would

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have to go into care um which wasn't exactly

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fair um so uh there was a a distant relative

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in in halifax north of england um that uh kindly

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i mean incredibly kind i didn't realize just

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how much of a magnanimous, incredible woman and

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her husband, Auntie Elder and Uncle George from

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Booth down in Halifax. Sorry, if you're listening

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from America and wonders why I'm doing that accent.

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But anyway, that's it. Nor that accent, lad.

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And they took care of me for about a year. My

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mom was coming up and down and eventually we...

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She found somewhere to live. It was actually

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a squat, actually. Anyway, long and bold story.

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And we ended up in Peckham, southeast London.

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So that's kind of like the really shortened down

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version. And that's how it was kind of growing

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up. And we also moved to Africa at one point,

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me and my mum, because she wanted to try and

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get a better life. So we moved to Togoland in

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Nigeria. I went to a school out there for a little

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while, but that all went wrong. Ended up living

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in a mud hut with an armed guard at the end.

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It was all crazy. I mean, the whole, look, everything.

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Everything I've done is crazy. And what led me

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to health really was what happened to my mom

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early on, I would say. And that's, you know,

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at the age of, I think I was 15 or 14, my mother

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went into hospital with a cyst the size of an

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orange on one of her ovaries. And they detected

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it and said, we need to get rid of it. So she

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went in for this operation. And unfortunately,

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they had a bad at the office, James. They took

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out the wrong ovary. And she was now left, obviously,

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with only one ovary with the sister size of an

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orange on it. Now she was in bed for a couple

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of years. I ended up leaving school with no education

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and ended up working, ironically, in a butcher

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shop just to try and bring in some money. So

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that, yeah, that was the beginning. So no university,

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no formal education, no parents, plural, and

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no siblings. And not housed for a little while

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as well. So that was a great start. Yeah, you'd

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be blown away how many people have rough upbringing

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stories. There's a facade that everyone else

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is doing well and everyone else is living the

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Disney life. But so many people on this show

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have come through homelessness, through addiction,

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through whatever it is. But yeah, I mean, I think

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that's one of the most misunderstood elements

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of society is how many people have stories of

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trauma and pain in their background. They do.

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And I think that trauma and pain, if I don't

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have trauma, I mean, I want to put this all in

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perspective. I would be wrong to say that. I

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would say that my upbringing involved trauma

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and pain. My mother was an incredible teacher.

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She was almost the most prolific magic maker.

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She was a natural born magic maker, I call her.

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She was all about gratitude. I mean, everything

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that we had was all about gratitude. Because

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we should be, and she was quite right, grateful

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for anything we have. Never look at what you

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don't have. She said, you're looking at the top

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4%. She said, if you really want to look at...

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If you're going to do that, then look around

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the world. She said, and then you'll have some

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genuine perspective. So when you say, oh, we

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have nothing. She goes, really? Do you? And,

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you know, you start looking into it. You think,

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well, actually, that's a load of nonsense. Because,

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you know, so I also had the, as corny as this

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is, I also had the love of my mother. My mother

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was my best friend. I was blessed beyond belief.

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If I had a choice between Oxford education, for

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argument's sake, you know, private education,

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Harvard education. and an incredibly wealthy

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family and a huge house growing up and a basketball

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court and a football court in the garden. But

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actually, I had just normal parents that kind

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of was out of work all the time, didn't really

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show a lot of love and affection. Or having no

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money whatsoever and having my mom, I'd pick

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the latter every day of the week because one

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was true richness and the other one is a facade.

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And so my heart goes out to anybody who – when

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people talk about rough upbringings, to me the

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only type of rough upbringing is if you really

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had some horrible guiding parents or not real

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parents. Then I get it. Then I understand it.

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But if you're just going to talk to me about,

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oh, I didn't have money growing up or – and I

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hear people going, oh, even some of the older

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generations said, well, we grew up, we didn't

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have any central heating. Well, no one did. I

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mean nobody did. You can't just say I didn't

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– you go back 200 years, nobody had hot water

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coming out of a tap. That was nobody, including

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kings and queens. So, I mean, you can always

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have a story to say, you know, we haven't got

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this, we haven't got that. But I think the most

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important mentor that you can ever have, and

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no matter where they come from, I was lucky,

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mine was my mother, but it can come from any

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guys. It can come from somebody you've read a

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book from. It can come anywhere. But these are

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the most important aspects, I think, of growing

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up. So I didn't come through, I mean, hardship.

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I mean, if your life doesn't pan out, I think

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it's my theory is that you can always go back

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and go, well, that's the reason why I didn't

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because this is what happened to me. Well, everybody's

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got anything to happen to them. It's not as cliche

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as it is. It's not what happens to you. It's

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what you do with what happens to you that ultimately

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makes the difference. Yeah, and I absolutely

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love that. And I think you can view that, you

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know, these elements as trauma. And some, you

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know, have true trauma where they were abused

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and all kinds of things. But, you know, the gratitude,

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I think, is the enemy of anxiety and depression.

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It really is. Well, if you have it, it is. I

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mean, at any given point, we can feel grateful

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about a million things. And I have to stop myself

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and do it too. I'm human like everybody else.

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We all strive for more. That is a human trait

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and it's not a bad one. However, at the same

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time, the old cliche of stop and smell the roses

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is something that people, including myself, often

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find hard to do. And we're always on the next

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thing before even the first thing's even been

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fully appreciated. And, you know, the little

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things that we have should fulfill us. And I

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made up this technique many years ago called

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Just Landed. It was with somebody who I was trying

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to tap into their gratitude, and they said they

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couldn't feel grateful for anything. And so we

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went through this Just Landed. I said, imagine

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you just landed. I said, and you literally are

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walking into your house, and somebody's given

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you this, and all of a sudden you go, all of

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a sudden this is my house. Oh, I didn't realize.

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I've got a roof over my head. Oh, that's your

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fridge, by the way. Fridge? What does that do?

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It keeps... food in there oh there's a shop around

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the corner you haven't got to walk 10 miles so

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you can just go around there and buy pretty much

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whatever you want within reason i know finances

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play a part and they did for me growing up but

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i mean compared to what most people in the world

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have And then you start looking around at the

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people in your world that love you. You start

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looking at this and you suddenly go, actually,

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I'm wealthier than I ever imagined. And if we

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all stopped and did that a little bit, and I

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hate to say this to anybody listening as well,

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because it teaches us to suck eggs. But the point

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is, is that gratitude, I would say, is, well,

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gratitude and purpose. You need two things. And

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I would say they transcend. nutrition and exercise,

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which we no doubt come on to at some point in

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this podcast. But I think they translate. You

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need purpose and you need gratitude. And I believe

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they generate chemicals within your brain, within

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your body that only broccoli can dream of. Yeah,

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I absolutely agree. And I think, you know, your

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desire to eat well, your desire to exercise comes

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from within as well. So if you don't have that,

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you're never going to be successful. Well, I

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call it three laws. The three laws are nutrition,

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exercise and purpose. And unless they are all

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equally balanced, the point is you won't want

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to get up at six in the morning to have a purpose

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if you're significantly overweight or ill. So

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therefore, they're all intrinsically linked.

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And if you feel hungover, whether it's alcohol

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hangover or food hungover most of the time, so

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you have a muzzy head feeling and you're barely

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getting through the day, then obviously you're

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not going to feel sharp. You're not going to

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feel on fire. So exactly how much of your purpose

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can ever be truly met. So all of them need to

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be. paid attention to in equal measures equally

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you can't just focus on nutrition and exercise

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and you know how you look apparently because

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if you just did that and you have no purpose

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then then you have no life and we've been out

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but you have no life either so so there's a balance

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it's the three laws tap into each one of them

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equally every single day and it can be incredibly

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transformative Beautiful. Well, speaking of exercise

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and nutrition then, so obviously you were bouncing

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around geographically as a young man. What did

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your nutrition and your overall health look like

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in the kind of high school years? Well, it was

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crap. There wasn't any. I mean, the point is,

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when you say, what did it look like? I mean,

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there wasn't any nutrition. It wasn't even talked

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about. You wouldn't understand the word nutrition.

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It was just we had food. We put it in our mouth.

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We had snacks. We put it in our mouth. We had,

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you know, chocolate, burgers. Wimpy back in the

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day in the UK. McDonald's hadn't even existed

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at that point. Early doors. Then McDonald's came

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into town. Listen, I would eat anything provided

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it wasn't green or was from nature. And I ate

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a lot of it. I also was a heavy smoker. Really,

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I smoked 40, 60 cigarettes every single day.

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I was also smoking other stuff because I was

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from Peckham, South East London. I also took

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other stuff as well. That was green there, wasn't

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it? Well, it was green if you can get hold of

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skunk. And that was the real powerful stuff.

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But normally it was black. It was just some hash.

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But yes, I'm getting into the technicalities

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of dope. But of course, that was a vicious circle.

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You get stoned, you get the munchies, you'll

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eat anything. So, I mean, that was a knock -on

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effect as well. I was a heavy drinker. I used

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to drink special brew and tenant super. For those

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that don't know, just look it up. Back in the

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day, there was like setting fire to alcohol and

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Thunderbird. I lived in a squat as well in my

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17, 18, left home as well. And it was just, it

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was literally... It was hard to explain. It's

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hard to explain now because I look at my life

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now and look at my life then. It seems like two

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completely different humans. I mean, genuinely

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two completely different humans. I don't even

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know. I almost can't recognize the other person.

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I still recognize they were still the same person,

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but they did all these things that didn't seem

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logical or very intelligent. But then addiction

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transcends logic and intelligence. Always will.

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And that is the challenge with addiction, which

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is why. I'm not part of the state, the obvious

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brigade. I hate them. They're not doing any wrong

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that they know. But when they say to a smoker,

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oh, smoking could kill you and it costs you a

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fortune. It's like telling somebody in quicksand

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that they're in quicksand. What do you think

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the person in quicksand doesn't know? They're

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more aware of it than you. They're in the frigging

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quicksand. And so when you tell somebody with

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any addiction or somebody who's overweight that

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if they had more fruits and vegetables and did

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more exercise, they'd be slimmer. I mean, if

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I was overweight, I'd want to punch you in the

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face because of course they know this. It's addiction.

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It's a horrible thing. And it transcends everything

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else. And there's not a significantly overweight

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person every night, I guarantee you, or at least

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once a week, whether it's on a Sunday night,

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that every Monday they will. And they're going

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to do it this time. They're going to transform

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their world. And they can be fully, highly intelligent,

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highly logical. And they wake up the next morning

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and they'll use all their willpower and all their

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might to try and do it. And then come four o

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'clock, five o 'clock, they literally, they start.

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binging on something or they might last two or

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three days and it's not a lack of willpower um

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in fact sometimes it's the complete opposite

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what it is is that they there's an invisible

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prison going on it's called addiction transcends

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like i said intelligence and logic which is why

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trying to apply those two things to it cannot

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work um and it can be very easy to to jump through

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but all of my books including the film i made

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have all psychology attached to it because without

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that level of psychology attached to it then

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all you're doing is you're just following another

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diet and if you're following another diet and

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you've got diet mentality it's not going to help

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you so there's a bigger picture here james is

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what i'm trying to say yeah no and i agree completely

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i had a johan harry on who wrote um chasing the

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scream and um I always forget the name of the

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second book. I don't know if anyway. I don't

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even know the person, so I will look into that.

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He's incredible. You will love it. But I mean,

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he talks about that. He talks about addiction

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and food, addiction and obesity. And that's something

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that I see in the US. We're one of the most affluent

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countries on the planet when it looks at monetary

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value, but we are the most obese on the planet

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too. So there's definitely voids that are being

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filled, whether it's alcohol, cigarettes, social

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media, porn, food whatever it is but there's

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there's you know an item or or a thing is being

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used to fill a void because there isn't that

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gratitude there isn't that that that peace within

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that's allowing them to chase the healthy element

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well i kind of think slightly different than

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that james actually i agree with that to a point

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and that's where the usual that is where the

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usual logic starts to apply you know they're

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obviously if they're doing that then we've got

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to look at why you're doing it And of course,

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the reason why I smoke cigarettes, for argument's

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sake, 40, 60 cigarettes a day, was to fill a

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void, correct. What void was I filling? The void

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simply created by the previous cigarette. Now,

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you can overanalyze that as much as you like,

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but that's a fact. That's all it comes down to.

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There was no more, no less. I could overanalyze

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it. I could sell self -sabotaging. I could go

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and see a billion different psychologists, and

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they would all come up with all different reasons.

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Well, no wonder your mom was... had a sister

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size of an orange on her ovary and she was in

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bed. Oh, you lived in Africa. Oh, you got taken

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out of your normal home. No wonder you were trying

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to fill a void. Absolute nonsense. None of that

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had anything to do with it. The reason why I

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started smoking, and this is why I want a paradigm

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shift in addiction, genuinely, James. I need

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a paradigm shift because the reason why I started

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smoking was because John Travolta was smoking

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in the film Grease. The bottom line is this,

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is that when we... I didn't come home from school

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and say, I've had a bad day, mom, I need a cigarette.

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That's not why I started smoking. I didn't say,

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oh my God, I'm stressed, I need a cigarette.

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That never happened until after I was already

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smoking cigarettes. The point is that addiction,

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anything that creates a void in itself, heroin

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creates a void, crack cocaine creates a void,

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white fine sugar creates a void, and we spend

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our entire lives trying to fill the void that

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it created with the very thing. that created

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it, but it gives the illusion that it's doing

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the opposite of what it's doing. So if I was

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to wear ski boots and then I took them off, I

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would gain pleasure from that. I would concentrate

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more because of that. But the pleasure would

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be immense the longer I have the ski boots on

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for. However, putting on ski boots or taking

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off ski boots in itself isn't a genuine pleasure.

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All you're trying to do is get to the position

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you were in before you put the ski boots on.

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You're trying to get into the same position that

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a non -ski boot wearer is already in. So as well

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as your other stress, you're now a ski boot wearer

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at the same time. And this is all addiction is.

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And it's so simplistic when broken down. So,

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you know, a smoker is only smoking a cigarette

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to feel like a non -smoker already feels. That's

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it. They can say anything else because they can't

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rationalize it. But that's the only reason why

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you're smoking a cigarette. Because people say,

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well, I smoke because I'm stressed. Well, you're

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on a beach. Well, I don't know then. Well, then

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shut up then. The reason why you're smoking a

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cigarette is because I'm having a drink because

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I got the pay rise. Oh, I'm having a drink because

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I didn't get the pay rise. Well, make up your

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mind. Why are you having a drink? But the point

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is, is that any form of addiction, there's a

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void that's been created by the very substance

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itself first. Now, that doesn't mean that's not

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exacerbated the very second that life in itself

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throws more things at you, more hurdles at you.

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And all of a sudden you start having winter days.

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So if you get hit hard by life, then you will

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turn to what you already feel, what you already

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have been deluded into thinking helps to fill

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voids in general. So it's hard to explain, but

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if you've got a depression void, not depression,

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or a feeling down void, depression's a big thing,

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but let's just say feeling down void, plus you're

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also withdrawing from nicotine at the same time,

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which is a very similar feeling, and then you

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have a cigarette where the overall void then

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gets decreased. Does that make sense, James?

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Oh, completely. So their overall void gets decreased,

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given the illusion that you have somehow helped

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a genuine feeling of feeling down or depression.

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Well, all you've done, you haven't touched the

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actual feeling. All you've done is lessened it

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from where you were, but you were only further

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down than a non -smoker because you smoke. And

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that's the point. It's like, it's not, I wasn't

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trying to fill a void at eight. I was, I was

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just. well i suppose i was trying to fit in but

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i mean everybody does i mean so you try and fit

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in so your your peer group now becomes the most

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important person to you uh that you look up to

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isn't your parents anymore in my case my mother

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it became the friends i was hanging around with

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oh you know what and what is the leader of those

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friends doing wow they're having a cigarette

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wow so is john travolta wow so i'll have a cigarette

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and then it took you listen anybody who smoked

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listening to this will know it takes you a while

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to learn to become a smoker weak rule people

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can't become smokers they go oh i can't do it

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and that's it end on Stronger people persevere,

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make sure they achieve anything, including becoming

00:22:52.690 --> 00:22:55.410
a smoker. And so what happens is you end up becoming

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a smoker and you don't have any adverse reactions

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anymore. In fact, you have positive reactions,

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but they're not positive in the same way that

00:23:02.170 --> 00:23:04.150
taking off ski boots appears positive, but you're

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just ending a load that having the ski boots

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on created in the first place. I mean, I've talked

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about addiction for years and years and years,

00:23:11.849 --> 00:23:13.890
and in all my books I allude to this in a much...

00:23:14.109 --> 00:23:18.509
better way than on a podcast. But this is the

00:23:18.509 --> 00:23:20.309
difference between somebody going, why do you

00:23:20.309 --> 00:23:24.150
do this? Let's be in therapy for 10 weeks and

00:23:24.150 --> 00:23:25.970
really get to the root of it, when the root of

00:23:25.970 --> 00:23:28.390
it is just the actual substance itself. Now,

00:23:28.410 --> 00:23:29.710
I'm not saying other elements don't play some

00:23:29.710 --> 00:23:32.569
parts, and we can touch on those. But really,

00:23:32.690 --> 00:23:34.410
let's start looking at what created the void

00:23:34.410 --> 00:23:36.670
first. In the same way, look at food. People

00:23:36.670 --> 00:23:39.390
say, I eat as a response to emotion, James. And

00:23:39.390 --> 00:23:40.950
I say, no, you don't. And they get mad with me.

00:23:41.130 --> 00:23:43.069
And they go, yes, I do. And I go, no, you eat

00:23:43.069 --> 00:23:46.890
certain things as a response to emotion. I've

00:23:46.890 --> 00:23:48.509
never met anybody who goes, I'm really pissed

00:23:48.509 --> 00:23:50.970
off. I've had a bad day. I need a grape. Not

00:23:50.970 --> 00:23:53.829
one single human I've ever heard say that. You

00:23:53.829 --> 00:23:55.769
know, I've had a down day. I need an apple. And

00:23:55.769 --> 00:23:58.069
why isn't there things like Apple Anonymous or

00:23:58.069 --> 00:24:00.349
Banana Anonymous? If it's down to the personality

00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:02.250
of the person, then surely everything's addictive.

00:24:02.670 --> 00:24:04.890
But there isn't. The substance has to play a

00:24:04.890 --> 00:24:08.309
part. And it plays a bigger part. than than people

00:24:08.309 --> 00:24:10.690
think and they do themselves a disservice by

00:24:10.690 --> 00:24:12.130
picking on themselves rather than the substance

00:24:12.130 --> 00:24:14.309
itself there's a there's a balance of the two

00:24:14.309 --> 00:24:16.269
but i don't think it's anywhere near the ratio

00:24:16.269 --> 00:24:18.529
that most addiction psychologists or therapists

00:24:18.529 --> 00:24:21.109
i think it is Yeah, well, that's a beautiful

00:24:21.109 --> 00:24:22.650
perspective. And thank you so much. And I can

00:24:22.650 --> 00:24:25.250
testify just currently, like I'm three weeks

00:24:25.250 --> 00:24:28.450
into not drinking. And, you know, there's no

00:24:28.450 --> 00:24:30.329
question that, you know, the hangover, I didn't

00:24:30.329 --> 00:24:34.349
drink a lot, I just drank very frequently. But

00:24:34.349 --> 00:24:36.970
that fogginess, you know, then requires more

00:24:36.970 --> 00:24:38.809
coffee, then you're kind of high strung, and

00:24:38.809 --> 00:24:40.750
then it leads to that evening wanting to unwind

00:24:40.750 --> 00:24:43.430
again. So there is undoubtedly an element of

00:24:43.430 --> 00:24:45.009
what you're talking about in, I think, a lot

00:24:45.009 --> 00:24:47.029
of us. And of course, you know, there, especially

00:24:47.029 --> 00:24:49.680
in my population, where you have A huge amount

00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:51.380
of trauma and then you add some, you know, some

00:24:51.380 --> 00:24:53.279
other childhood trauma. There is, I think, an

00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.640
element of escapism maybe in the alcohol and

00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:58.900
some of the other use as well. But like so many

00:24:58.900 --> 00:25:01.460
things I talk about in this podcast, you've got

00:25:01.460 --> 00:25:03.940
to look at both sides. And cigarettes are a perfect

00:25:03.940 --> 00:25:06.200
example. I've said this myself. It's the most

00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.779
selfish drug out there because it almost gives

00:25:08.779 --> 00:25:10.720
you nothing. It doesn't take you away. It doesn't

00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:12.359
get you high. It doesn't, you know, give you

00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.000
a buzz. It just, like you said, once you're hooked,

00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:16.599
you're hooked. And then you're just in this vicious

00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:18.890
circle. What is the most useless drug in the

00:25:18.890 --> 00:25:20.589
world? Next thing you like using it because it

00:25:20.589 --> 00:25:24.059
doesn't do anything. I mean, that's the point.

00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:27.099
All it does is end the load that it created.

00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.680
So it's, you know, like I said, of all the drugs

00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.000
on earth, other drugs obviously can be argued.

00:25:32.099 --> 00:25:33.400
But, you know, when it would come to addiction,

00:25:33.539 --> 00:25:35.240
we talk about gamblers anonymous, which there

00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:36.980
is. There's no substance involved. This will

00:25:36.980 --> 00:25:39.480
tell you just how important psychology plays

00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:41.779
a part because they've done studies to show that

00:25:41.779 --> 00:25:43.779
a gambler coming off of gambling, essentially

00:25:43.779 --> 00:25:46.019
withdrawing from gambling, they will suffer the

00:25:46.019 --> 00:25:49.809
same physical. It's such an interesting distinction.

00:25:49.930 --> 00:25:51.450
Say physical withdrawal is somebody coming off

00:25:51.450 --> 00:25:54.690
something like heavy -use alcohol or heroin addiction

00:25:54.690 --> 00:25:57.730
to some extent. And you go, well, how come they're

00:25:57.730 --> 00:26:01.049
doing that? Because most of that, the physical

00:26:01.049 --> 00:26:03.569
symptom, if you will, is fear, the fear that

00:26:03.569 --> 00:26:05.029
you cannot enjoy or cope with your life without

00:26:05.029 --> 00:26:07.089
what you perceive to be your friend, crutch,

00:26:07.089 --> 00:26:09.869
or pleasure. And that's what it amounts to. Now,

00:26:09.930 --> 00:26:12.220
your community is very different. So we are talking

00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:14.240
about something. I'm talking about the lay people

00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.640
most of the time here, James. Whereas in the

00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.640
community that you talk about most of the time,

00:26:18.700 --> 00:26:20.920
clearly there is that thing. You come back and

00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.059
there is that trauma. There's that immediate

00:26:23.059 --> 00:26:25.380
trauma that happens almost in an instant. And

00:26:25.380 --> 00:26:28.039
I'm not saying that that doesn't often and at

00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.579
times go straight away and you just start drinking

00:26:31.579 --> 00:26:33.700
again if you stopped or you start smoking again

00:26:33.700 --> 00:26:35.619
or whatever the case is. But I would still argue

00:26:35.619 --> 00:26:37.720
a little bit that a lot of the time, unless you've

00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:39.359
already done it, unless you already know it.

00:26:39.710 --> 00:26:41.769
very few will then turn to something they haven't

00:26:41.769 --> 00:26:44.890
already done. So they don't go onto heroin. Very

00:26:44.890 --> 00:26:47.089
few. And that's the thing. They will go to a

00:26:47.089 --> 00:26:49.049
crutch that they already believe has a benefit

00:26:49.049 --> 00:26:52.670
in some way of escapism or pleasure or something.

00:26:52.910 --> 00:26:55.029
And that was already conditioned early on when

00:26:55.029 --> 00:26:56.609
they didn't have a trauma and they were doing

00:26:56.609 --> 00:26:58.470
it because they wanted to be like someone else.

00:26:58.630 --> 00:27:01.309
So it's all intrinsically linked again. Absolutely.

00:27:01.430 --> 00:27:03.450
Well, two things. Firstly, that second book I

00:27:03.450 --> 00:27:05.109
couldn't remember the name of was Lost Connections.

00:27:05.109 --> 00:27:07.410
So Johan Hari's books, Chasing the Scream and

00:27:07.410 --> 00:27:09.450
Lost Connections, both incredible books. I know

00:27:09.450 --> 00:27:11.329
coming just from this conversation, you're going

00:27:11.329 --> 00:27:13.809
to really enjoy those. And then the other thing

00:27:13.809 --> 00:27:15.390
is John Travolta was on the show, so I'll let

00:27:15.390 --> 00:27:16.849
him know that he was responsible for your smoking

00:27:16.849 --> 00:27:20.710
as well. Hang on a second. John Travolta was

00:27:20.710 --> 00:27:23.630
on your podcast. Yes. He actually lives in Ocala,

00:27:23.750 --> 00:27:25.569
in the same city I live in. So I was able to

00:27:25.569 --> 00:27:28.009
find a mutual friend and we did a recording face

00:27:28.009 --> 00:27:30.509
-to -face, actually. But he was in Ladder 49,

00:27:30.670 --> 00:27:32.509
which is one of the best firefighter movies that

00:27:32.509 --> 00:27:34.230
they've made. There's some really bad ones out

00:27:34.230 --> 00:27:39.369
there. I've seen it. It's sensational. I don't

00:27:39.369 --> 00:27:42.009
often talk about fans. Fans is short for fanatic,

00:27:42.049 --> 00:27:44.750
obviously, so you've got to be careful. But obviously,

00:27:44.849 --> 00:27:47.500
I watched John Travolta when I was eight. um

00:27:47.500 --> 00:27:50.099
i used to queue around the cinema for the film

00:27:50.099 --> 00:27:54.460
greece um staying alive before that and uh and

00:27:54.460 --> 00:27:56.519
literally just admired everything he's done ever

00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.599
since i think guys so i'm going to check out

00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:02.759
your episode with john travolta um on the podcast

00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.259
because uh i think he's an extraordinary human

00:28:05.259 --> 00:28:09.720
being yeah and when he was in um the film not

00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.759
staying alive it was a dancing dance based film

00:28:13.309 --> 00:28:15.390
I mean, he got ripped for that film. I'd love

00:28:15.390 --> 00:28:18.049
to know what was his regime to do that because

00:28:18.049 --> 00:28:21.349
he is a dance film with some guy, I forget what

00:28:21.349 --> 00:28:23.109
the name of the film is, but unbelievable, unbelievable,

00:28:23.230 --> 00:28:26.970
to get into shape for that film. Sometimes I

00:28:26.970 --> 00:28:29.250
use that analogy, actually, James, to people

00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:31.970
that want to transform their bodies or their

00:28:31.970 --> 00:28:34.170
lives or whatever. Imagine you have a film park.

00:28:34.430 --> 00:28:37.759
You've seen it happen before. You've got Russell

00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.220
Crowe for Gladiator. He doesn't exactly look

00:28:40.220 --> 00:28:42.059
like Gladiator now, and nor should he. I'm not

00:28:42.059 --> 00:28:44.740
saying he should. It's just that if you want

00:28:44.740 --> 00:28:46.559
to get there once or whatever and you have a

00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:50.180
film role, then find a regime that these people

00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:52.799
do and see if you can follow it to some extent.

00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:55.599
It's quite good. Because ultimately, as corny

00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:56.880
as it is, we're all in a film role, aren't we?

00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.079
Do you know what I mean? But it's one of those.

00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.079
Absolutely. Well, let's speak about your journey

00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.279
then. Was there any kind of pivotal moment? And

00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.200
then walk me through to how you found juicing.

00:29:08.859 --> 00:29:13.160
I found juicing. The simple story, so it doesn't

00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:17.920
take up too much of the podcast, is I knew that

00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.200
fruits and vegetables were good for you. Obviously,

00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.500
you have to be on planet nothing to not realize

00:29:23.500 --> 00:29:26.700
that. I knew they were good for me. But I didn't

00:29:26.700 --> 00:29:28.720
like them. I just hated them. I just couldn't

00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.339
eat broccoli. I couldn't eat this. I just hated

00:29:30.339 --> 00:29:33.809
them. So then I read in a book that all fruits

00:29:33.809 --> 00:29:36.710
and vegetables were essentially over 85 % pure

00:29:36.710 --> 00:29:40.130
organic liquid fuel. And when you broke it down,

00:29:40.190 --> 00:29:41.950
it was only really this fuel that actually fed

00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:43.849
the cells of the human body. After all, fiber

00:29:43.849 --> 00:29:45.630
just passes through. And it's there for a reason,

00:29:45.670 --> 00:29:47.150
obviously, but I will come on to that in a minute.

00:29:47.450 --> 00:29:50.390
But essentially, it's the juice contained within

00:29:50.390 --> 00:29:52.920
the fiber that feeds you. So I read this, and

00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.160
I thought, well, is there a way of me getting

00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.740
vegetables in my body, which is what I needed.

00:29:56.859 --> 00:29:58.599
I knew I needed to change. I knew I needed, I

00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:00.380
was in trouble. I was covered from head to foot

00:30:00.380 --> 00:30:03.680
in psoriasis, skin condition, but covered from

00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.940
head to foot. I had 90 % coverage. I was also

00:30:05.940 --> 00:30:09.779
severely asthmatic. I was also severe hay fever.

00:30:10.019 --> 00:30:12.759
I had bad eczema. I was incredibly overweight.

00:30:13.619 --> 00:30:15.559
And, of course, I was heavily drinking, heavily

00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:17.319
smoking, everything else. I knew change had to

00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:20.420
happen, but equally. You know, addiction was

00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:22.359
one side, so I needed to find a formula that

00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.619
can get me out of that side of life. But then

00:30:25.619 --> 00:30:27.420
equally, I knew I needed this nutrition, but

00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:30.319
I needed to change my brand of food so that I

00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.059
would choose to do it. So it wasn't on a diet.

00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.359
I would choose to go to that food over anything

00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:35.720
else. Now, I knew that was going to take a little

00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:37.720
while for that to happen. So in the meantime,

00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.400
can I just get some liquid stuff inside me? Because

00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.579
you can learn to like the taste of anything after

00:30:43.579 --> 00:30:45.569
a period of time. A lot of people have sugar

00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:47.630
in their tea and coffee and then they decide

00:30:47.630 --> 00:30:49.670
not to have sugar in their tea and coffee. It

00:30:49.670 --> 00:30:51.930
normally takes about five days to adjust. And

00:30:51.930 --> 00:30:54.430
most people listening now that made that change,

00:30:54.569 --> 00:30:57.910
they wouldn't pay you for a cup of tea or coffee

00:30:57.910 --> 00:30:59.509
with sugar in anymore because they've made that

00:30:59.509 --> 00:31:01.650
change. And they're not on a no sugar in tea

00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:03.890
diet. They don't look at other people having

00:31:03.890 --> 00:31:06.930
it and crave it or think that they're being deprived.

00:31:07.210 --> 00:31:08.829
So that means they're free. They're genuinely

00:31:08.829 --> 00:31:11.549
free from it. That's the difference. And so I

00:31:11.549 --> 00:31:13.500
knew that would take a while for me to. learn

00:31:13.500 --> 00:31:15.420
to like an avocado for i can say because of utter

00:31:15.420 --> 00:31:17.779
filth so i thought well you know i needed to

00:31:17.779 --> 00:31:20.299
learn to like an avocado salad or something so

00:31:20.299 --> 00:31:22.380
i thought can i get this liquid stuff in me and

00:31:22.380 --> 00:31:23.920
you can even buy a juicer back then i mean you

00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.920
bought citrus presses i've managed to find this

00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.240
old knocked out juicer my mom's covered from

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:32.099
mulinex started juicing and i've never looked

00:31:32.099 --> 00:31:34.880
back i mean i made a real apple juice first time

00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.019
and i just couldn't believe what i was making

00:31:37.019 --> 00:31:39.539
i've never i've never had real apple juice apple

00:31:39.539 --> 00:31:41.619
juice from a carton that looked like urine it's

00:31:41.619 --> 00:31:43.660
like see -through I thought, I've never seen

00:31:43.660 --> 00:31:45.180
this stuff, this cloudy stuff. What is this?

00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.759
And then, you know, adding spinach and various

00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.660
other bits and combinations. And then I went

00:31:50.660 --> 00:31:52.839
crazy. I just went down the green grocers. I

00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:54.400
bought every fruit and vegetable that I didn't

00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:56.180
recognize. I didn't know the names of any of

00:31:56.180 --> 00:31:58.380
them. I just thought, what is this? Started juicing

00:31:58.380 --> 00:32:00.160
one of them, and it tastes like aniseed balls.

00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.200
What is this? Fennel. Never heard of it. Brilliant.

00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.319
And then just started telling all my friends.

00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:07.799
And I said, you've got to get on board with this.

00:32:07.940 --> 00:32:10.079
My skin started to get better. My asthma vanished.

00:32:10.569 --> 00:32:12.369
I started to live on nothing but juice for a

00:32:12.369 --> 00:32:15.569
week at a time. And I was on fire. I just went,

00:32:15.609 --> 00:32:17.509
this is insane. The world's got to know about

00:32:17.509 --> 00:32:19.349
this. So I set out on a mission. I went, I'm

00:32:19.349 --> 00:32:20.509
going to juice the world. I'm going to stop what

00:32:20.509 --> 00:32:22.049
I'm doing and just juice the world. This is insane.

00:32:22.170 --> 00:32:24.970
Why don't we know about this? And that was it.

00:32:25.089 --> 00:32:27.970
And I've been as passionate for the last 25 years

00:32:27.970 --> 00:32:32.230
as I was then. So tell me about that. So how

00:32:32.230 --> 00:32:34.710
long did it take you to get to the weight that

00:32:34.710 --> 00:32:38.029
you wanted to be? And how long did your skin

00:32:38.029 --> 00:32:40.940
take to clear up? Well, the skin was hard. Psoriasis

00:32:40.940 --> 00:32:43.759
is a real, psoriasis is very difficult. Eczema

00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.400
went very quickly, but psoriasis is an autoimmune

00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.960
disease. And I was lucky because after nine months,

00:32:49.059 --> 00:32:52.690
my skin. uh improved and the psoriasis went but

00:32:52.690 --> 00:32:54.650
that doesn't happen in every case and that wasn't

00:32:54.650 --> 00:32:56.549
the case of just juicing will do that for you

00:32:56.549 --> 00:32:59.670
you also need things like added zinc selenium

00:32:59.670 --> 00:33:01.210
if you can't if you're not getting it in the

00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:03.609
fruits and veg because the soil has been bastardized

00:33:03.609 --> 00:33:05.470
so much these are the two main minerals that

00:33:05.470 --> 00:33:07.950
unfortunately you're in short supply even in

00:33:07.950 --> 00:33:11.650
normal fruit and veg so you might need some extra

00:33:11.650 --> 00:33:15.119
supplementation you're going to need um essential

00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.579
fats uh there's no question you're going to need

00:33:17.579 --> 00:33:19.720
a lesser thing which is a fat emulsifier so that's

00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.180
an external thing so when it comes to psoriasis

00:33:22.180 --> 00:33:24.740
there's a there's a particular plan really that

00:33:24.740 --> 00:33:26.220
you need to follow and even then when you follow

00:33:26.220 --> 00:33:29.819
it not everybody has ultimate success on it but

00:33:29.819 --> 00:33:32.680
human bodies are tough not to crack uh with psoriasis

00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:36.420
um but i i've seen a lot of people uh with complete

00:33:36.420 --> 00:33:39.359
clearance and other people with 80 and back in

00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:40.920
the day when i was covered and if you give me

00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.079
80 clearance i would have bit your hand off i

00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.930
really would So that's how long that took. Weight

00:33:45.930 --> 00:33:48.109
only took a couple of months, three months to

00:33:48.109 --> 00:33:51.750
drop. I mean, weight's the first thing that will

00:33:51.750 --> 00:33:55.609
go. A healthy body never wants to be overweight.

00:33:55.890 --> 00:33:57.769
And when I say overweight, I don't mean Instagram

00:33:57.769 --> 00:34:01.670
image. I mean, look, we're all meant to, in winter,

00:34:01.710 --> 00:34:04.750
have a little bit more on us than we do in the

00:34:04.750 --> 00:34:07.390
summer. That's just, we're meant to have that.

00:34:07.529 --> 00:34:09.170
I mean, if you look at an orangutan, you'd never

00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:10.920
call them fat. But if you saw a human looking

00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.780
like an orangutan, you would. And it's this stupid

00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:15.800
man -made image stuff that we have of ourselves,

00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.039
which is ridiculous. And we just need to go,

00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:21.619
no, actually, am I a decent weight? What that

00:34:21.619 --> 00:34:23.480
means is can I run around? Do I get short breath?

00:34:24.340 --> 00:34:26.980
Do my clothes fit me? Do I feel pretty good?

00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.239
That's your weight. We'd be in a human at the

00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.639
same time. I mean, you could get down to whatever

00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:34.760
your ideal weight is and stick there forever

00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:39.059
for every decade. I essentially just eat nothing

00:34:39.059 --> 00:34:41.039
but raw food and everything else. But I think

00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:44.380
a balance is in order if you're human. But yeah,

00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.760
my asthma went within a month. That shocked me

00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:48.719
the most, I think. I was severely asthmatic.

00:34:48.820 --> 00:34:50.500
So that really shocked me. And again, I'm not

00:34:50.500 --> 00:34:52.619
saying that anybody who follows any of my plans

00:34:52.619 --> 00:34:53.940
or anything else that it will cure your asthma.

00:34:54.019 --> 00:34:55.760
I don't want anybody to misread this at all.

00:34:55.900 --> 00:34:58.559
I'm just saying in my personal case, I was blessed

00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.679
by nature and nature was good to me. And with

00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:03.780
all the ginger and the lemon and the apple juice,

00:35:03.940 --> 00:35:05.699
which I know they've done studies on apple juice

00:35:05.699 --> 00:35:08.900
to show. with asthma patients and that they're

00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:13.139
wheezing half within 30 days. And I forgot where

00:35:13.139 --> 00:35:15.460
that study was now, but anybody can just Google

00:35:15.460 --> 00:35:18.019
it and have a look at it. But they tried to say

00:35:18.019 --> 00:35:19.599
we're just eating the apples and it didn't have

00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.239
the same effect. So there's something about the

00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.139
juice that makes it more bioavailable somehow.

00:35:23.539 --> 00:35:25.800
And again, it's one of those that less people

00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:27.619
can say, well, where's the science? Where's this?

00:35:27.659 --> 00:35:29.519
Well, the science is the millions of people that

00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.360
I've seen over the years. The science is the

00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:33.000
fact I don't have psoriasis anymore. The science

00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.960
is the fact I haven't got. you know, asthma anymore,

00:35:36.099 --> 00:35:37.780
that I'm not on any medication whatsoever and

00:35:37.780 --> 00:35:40.800
I feel pretty good and I'm not alone. So, you

00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.199
know, what, do you need a piece of paper from

00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.380
science to, you know, don't let science, you

00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:46.579
know, wait till science catches up or just make

00:35:46.579 --> 00:35:49.460
the change now. So I was blessed. Within a year,

00:35:49.539 --> 00:35:52.159
everything had changed for me, everything. And

00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.460
I was, and I was just, I was just on fire. I

00:35:55.460 --> 00:35:58.480
just wanted to tell the world. I, yeah, started

00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.900
writing books, started doing this. And bear in

00:36:00.900 --> 00:36:02.820
mind, I got no formal education. I'm hugely dyslexic.

00:36:02.820 --> 00:36:05.030
I mean, I don't read. Hardly anything because

00:36:05.030 --> 00:36:08.289
it just gives me a headache. I can't really write

00:36:08.289 --> 00:36:09.909
as an author, right? If you've read my books,

00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:12.590
you'll know that. I'm just somebody who has passion

00:36:12.590 --> 00:36:19.329
for a subject and decided to get writing at 4

00:36:19.329 --> 00:36:21.429
a .m. Because, of course, I still work as a painter

00:36:21.429 --> 00:36:24.690
and decorator. So, of course, you know, I call

00:36:24.690 --> 00:36:27.409
it the 4 a .m. books. You know, people say, oh,

00:36:27.409 --> 00:36:29.010
I haven't got the time to do whatever their goals

00:36:29.010 --> 00:36:31.630
are. Get up at 4 a .m. It's 2, 4, 7. No one's

00:36:31.630 --> 00:36:32.989
troubling me. It depends on your profession.

00:36:33.110 --> 00:36:34.610
I don't want anybody saying, I'm on night shift

00:36:34.610 --> 00:36:36.369
and I'm a nurse. You know why. Generally, I'm

00:36:36.369 --> 00:36:39.769
talking here. The 4 a .m. book. Yeah, you want

00:36:39.769 --> 00:36:40.969
to write a screenplay. You want to do something

00:36:40.969 --> 00:36:43.230
else. Get up at 4 a .m. Get up at 4 a .m. Go

00:36:43.230 --> 00:36:45.449
to work at 7. Do it every day consistently. Do

00:36:45.449 --> 00:36:46.809
you have to sacrifice some things? Yeah, of course

00:36:46.809 --> 00:36:49.489
you do. But it depends on what you want. And

00:36:49.489 --> 00:36:50.889
that's it. If you've got a passion to do something,

00:36:50.989 --> 00:36:53.670
you always find a way around doing it. I want

00:36:53.670 --> 00:36:55.389
to do so much more. I still want tons more that

00:36:55.389 --> 00:36:57.969
I want to do. But again, that takes a bit of

00:36:57.969 --> 00:37:00.429
focus. Yeah, well, you mentioned about the science

00:37:00.429 --> 00:37:02.110
and that's something that I just finished writing

00:37:02.110 --> 00:37:04.010
a book myself, funny enough, and I touch on this

00:37:04.010 --> 00:37:07.710
very thing. So we have science -based pharmaceuticals

00:37:07.710 --> 00:37:09.550
out there for your blood pressure, for your diabetes,

00:37:09.690 --> 00:37:12.329
for all this. And it's FDA approved and all these

00:37:12.329 --> 00:37:16.789
studies. And any member of EMS or hospital arena

00:37:16.789 --> 00:37:20.289
listening knows damn well that we have patients

00:37:20.289 --> 00:37:22.530
that die every day in their 40s, 50s that have...

00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.260
bags full of these medications. So those are

00:37:25.260 --> 00:37:26.679
the ones that are proven that don't do a damn

00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.219
thing apart from change the metrics in the doctor's

00:37:29.219 --> 00:37:33.860
office. So what I think is so underrepresented

00:37:33.860 --> 00:37:36.460
and no better time to illustrate this than now

00:37:36.460 --> 00:37:38.699
with COVID, where all they're talking about is

00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:42.579
hand sanitizers and masks and no focus or education

00:37:42.579 --> 00:37:45.159
at all in this captive audience for seven months

00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.980
now on addressing the underlying health issues

00:37:47.980 --> 00:37:51.170
that truly can make people resilient. But I mean,

00:37:51.170 --> 00:37:53.130
nutrition to me, I've had so many people on the

00:37:53.130 --> 00:37:57.050
show now, it's common sense. If you eat the way

00:37:57.050 --> 00:37:59.570
that we ate 100, 200 years ago, whether it's

00:37:59.570 --> 00:38:00.989
juicing, whether it's whole food, whatever it

00:38:00.989 --> 00:38:02.789
is, but it's organic and it's in its original

00:38:02.789 --> 00:38:05.920
form. you are going to reverse the disease processes

00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.059
from industrialized foods. So just kind of talk

00:38:10.059 --> 00:38:12.340
about some of the success stories that you've

00:38:12.340 --> 00:38:14.599
had as far as disease reversal. And again, you're

00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.159
not guaranteeing this, but anecdotally that you've

00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.760
seen people that have come in with issues that

00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:21.820
you've seen reversed just through nutrition.

00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:26.500
Well, I would say virtually everything. And I'm

00:38:26.500 --> 00:38:30.289
a highly skeptical person, James. Whenever I

00:38:30.289 --> 00:38:31.849
listen to podcasts or anything else, I've got

00:38:31.849 --> 00:38:33.590
a skeptic head on. And no doubt many people listening

00:38:33.590 --> 00:38:35.929
to this will also be the same. So I don't want

00:38:35.929 --> 00:38:38.050
everybody to think, oh, hallelujah, it's the

00:38:38.050 --> 00:38:39.429
juice. Do you know what I mean? This kind of

00:38:39.429 --> 00:38:41.869
stuff. It isn't. As you've alluded to, when it

00:38:41.869 --> 00:38:44.230
comes to nutrition, I don't do anything, clearly,

00:38:44.329 --> 00:38:46.769
obviously. Some people think I do. But I don't

00:38:46.769 --> 00:38:48.690
do anything. I'm a catalyst, clearly. All I do

00:38:48.690 --> 00:38:51.190
is just say, hey, John, here's nature. Nature,

00:38:51.269 --> 00:38:52.989
here's John. Hope you guys get on. That's it.

00:38:53.809 --> 00:38:57.070
And all I do is try and encourage John to do

00:38:57.070 --> 00:38:59.579
nature. in a way that motivates them or inspires

00:38:59.579 --> 00:39:01.940
them. That's it. No more, no less. And if you

00:39:01.940 --> 00:39:03.679
can't eat it, can you drink it? If you can eat

00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.500
it, great. If you can't, don't worry about it.

00:39:05.539 --> 00:39:07.300
We've got another solution. You can drink it.

00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.420
And you can drink it for a little while, for

00:39:09.420 --> 00:39:13.079
a length of time. Do something abnormal. People

00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:14.940
say it's abnormal to drink juice for seven days

00:39:14.940 --> 00:39:16.699
and nothing else. It is, but it's also abnormal

00:39:16.699 --> 00:39:18.539
to eat Pringles, isn't it? But the point is what

00:39:18.539 --> 00:39:20.920
we're trying to do is counter the abnormalities.

00:39:20.980 --> 00:39:23.179
That's what we're trying to do. So I've seen

00:39:23.179 --> 00:39:24.880
every change, but I think my movie, my first

00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:26.699
one, I'm making Super Juice Me 2 next year, but

00:39:26.699 --> 00:39:29.170
I think... Super Juice Me 1 really illustrated

00:39:29.170 --> 00:39:33.110
a great deal in the sense that I took eight people

00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:36.150
with 22 different quote -unquote diseases between

00:39:36.150 --> 00:39:38.889
them, some of which was autoimmune diseases,

00:39:39.010 --> 00:39:41.250
lupus for argument's sake. They were on a plethora

00:39:41.250 --> 00:39:44.130
of drugs, particularly the one from America and

00:39:44.130 --> 00:39:46.409
the one from Wales who came and you had a suitcase,

00:39:46.630 --> 00:39:49.269
a genuine small suitcase full of nothing but

00:39:49.269 --> 00:39:52.110
medical drugs, full. This is no exaggeration.

00:39:52.130 --> 00:39:53.820
This is exactly what you had. He had the entire

00:39:53.820 --> 00:39:56.019
suitcase full of medical drugs. I thought, you

00:39:56.019 --> 00:39:58.639
can't make this up. This is astonishing. Now,

00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:00.059
surely, if he's got a whole suitcase full of

00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:02.380
medical drugs, then he should look amazing, right?

00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.079
He should look amazing. Because aren't these

00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.460
drugs meant to be doing you good? But, of course,

00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.280
he was the sickest person I'd ever come into

00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.079
contact with, bar none. I mean, this guy had

00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.420
just about everything, from sleep apnea to lupus

00:40:15.420 --> 00:40:18.780
to gout to diabetes. I mean, you can judge. But

00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:22.380
all eight of them had various conditions. So

00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:25.300
we put them on juice, the same juice, put them

00:40:25.300 --> 00:40:27.300
on the same plan because the whole idea of the

00:40:27.300 --> 00:40:29.280
documentary was a one disease, one solution hypothesis.

00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.500
Now, 85 % of all disease, even according to the

00:40:33.500 --> 00:40:35.760
World Health Organization, is directly caused

00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.619
by what we put into our mouths. Okay, 85%. Some

00:40:39.619 --> 00:40:41.619
of that would be what we think as well, but that's

00:40:41.619 --> 00:40:43.760
a different argument. It can be directly attributed

00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:48.739
to what we put into our mouths, 85%. So the other

00:40:48.739 --> 00:40:51.179
15%. I wasn't talking about. When I talked about

00:40:51.179 --> 00:40:54.400
one disease, one solution hypothesis, I wasn't

00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.239
saying that there aren't people born with type

00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:59.320
1 diabetes. I wasn't saying that in some cases,

00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:04.119
there's quite a few diseases that require short

00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:06.340
-term and long -term medical intervention. I'm

00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:08.380
not against the pharmaceutical industry, nor

00:41:08.380 --> 00:41:10.199
am I against doctors, because I would be dead

00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:14.000
today without them with my asthma. My first asthma

00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.239
attack, I'll be dead. We wouldn't even be doing

00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:18.179
this podcast. So whatever was in the Ventolin

00:41:18.179 --> 00:41:21.320
inhaler. I owe my life to the pharmaceutical

00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.480
industry. Where I have an issue is a pill for

00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.559
every ill and an ill for every pill and blindly

00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:31.800
just giving out these pills so that you can have

00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:34.719
a customer for life. Now, I don't believe there's

00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:36.820
any doctor. See, doctors and pharmaceutical industry,

00:41:36.860 --> 00:41:39.260
I think, are two different things. And the pharmaceutical

00:41:39.260 --> 00:41:42.050
industry... Big Pharma, the ones at the very

00:41:42.050 --> 00:41:43.710
top, I think they fully know what they're doing.

00:41:43.829 --> 00:41:46.329
In fact, they have to make profit for their shareholders,

00:41:46.510 --> 00:41:48.469
their shareholder companies as well. They can

00:41:48.469 --> 00:41:53.489
produce 102 different documents on the safety

00:41:53.489 --> 00:41:59.329
and effectiveness of a drug. But if 100 show

00:41:59.329 --> 00:42:01.309
that it failed, but two show that it's positive,

00:42:01.449 --> 00:42:04.050
they can literally burn the other 100, which

00:42:04.050 --> 00:42:06.789
I find astonishing, but that's legal. And therefore,

00:42:06.889 --> 00:42:11.380
it's now been FDA approved. So then we revert

00:42:11.380 --> 00:42:14.679
back to the people on Super Juice Me. They take

00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.860
a liver pill. It has a side effect because all

00:42:16.860 --> 00:42:18.579
drugs have a side effect. Doctors, I don't think

00:42:18.579 --> 00:42:20.699
there's one doctor in the industry that gets

00:42:20.699 --> 00:42:23.480
into there. I do what they do because they don't

00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:25.300
want to help people. They all do. Look, when

00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:27.840
they took out the wrong ovary from my mom, people

00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.519
said, oh, you guys are mad. That's the medical

00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.719
industry for you. No, it's not. They had a bad

00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.179
day at the office. I mean, we all have bad days

00:42:35.179 --> 00:42:36.679
at the office. They just don't have the luxury

00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:38.440
of being able to have a bad day at the office

00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.710
like a mechanic. How do I know that guy, that

00:42:40.710 --> 00:42:43.090
surgeon wasn't on a 12 -hour shift, that his

00:42:43.090 --> 00:42:45.010
eyelids were barely left open? We don't know

00:42:45.010 --> 00:42:46.929
his story, and he didn't do it deliberately.

00:42:47.429 --> 00:42:50.190
Intent is everything. So, no, was my mom mad?

00:42:50.210 --> 00:42:51.690
Yes, it was a bad mistake to make. Of course

00:42:51.690 --> 00:42:53.809
it was. When they misdiagnosed her for stage

00:42:53.809 --> 00:42:56.449
4 lung cancer, and they said she had COPD, and

00:42:56.449 --> 00:42:58.889
they gave her an asthma pump for four years before

00:42:58.889 --> 00:43:00.489
it was too late, and then they diagnosed her,

00:43:00.510 --> 00:43:02.730
but then it was too late. It's easy to get angry

00:43:02.730 --> 00:43:05.849
about this, but actually we have to look subjectively

00:43:05.849 --> 00:43:07.869
to understand there's no human in the medical

00:43:07.869 --> 00:43:11.219
profession. doctors in particular, that deliberately

00:43:11.219 --> 00:43:13.980
misdiagnosed her in a billion years. And there's

00:43:13.980 --> 00:43:15.519
nobody that deliberately gave her an asthma pump

00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.039
and ignored stage four lung cancer because they

00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.179
didn't do that at all. So I'm not anti -doctor,

00:43:22.219 --> 00:43:25.460
nor am I anti -pharmaceuticals, but I am anti

00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:29.719
this entire drive towards treating a symptom

00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.539
disease and not getting to the cause of the disease.

00:43:32.699 --> 00:43:35.369
So long story short. At the end of Superjuice,

00:43:35.369 --> 00:43:36.469
I mean, you have to watch it anyway. I mean,

00:43:36.469 --> 00:43:38.289
it's free to watch. It's on YouTube. It's on

00:43:38.289 --> 00:43:41.909
Amazon Prime. I mean, Richard Branson likes it

00:43:41.909 --> 00:43:44.150
so much that it was on all Virgin Airlines when

00:43:44.150 --> 00:43:46.590
it first came out. I mean, this movie has now

00:43:46.590 --> 00:43:48.190
been seen by 6 million people, and I think it

00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:50.670
does more than anything else. So I'd always encourage

00:43:50.670 --> 00:43:52.130
people to say, oh, what should people do? Should

00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:54.329
they buy your book? No, no, don't buy a book.

00:43:54.710 --> 00:43:57.010
Don't download an app. Don't spend any money.

00:43:57.190 --> 00:43:59.349
Go and watch a free documentary before you do

00:43:59.349 --> 00:44:00.869
anything else because then you can make up your

00:44:00.869 --> 00:44:03.710
mind on whether you. actually think this is subjective,

00:44:03.969 --> 00:44:05.769
whether you think you'll buy into it or not buy

00:44:05.769 --> 00:44:07.670
into it, whatever the case is. But it's hard

00:44:07.670 --> 00:44:10.349
not to, because when you see at the end, all

00:44:10.349 --> 00:44:12.269
eight people with all these different diseases,

00:44:12.530 --> 00:44:15.789
and then they seemingly, you know, 90 % of them

00:44:15.789 --> 00:44:21.610
vanish in a month, in 28 days, you have to start

00:44:21.610 --> 00:44:24.449
asking yourself the question, shall we at least

00:44:24.449 --> 00:44:28.429
look at this? Instead of blindly... carrying

00:44:28.429 --> 00:44:30.630
on as we are. I always joke at my retreats as

00:44:30.630 --> 00:44:32.389
well that if next to a juice that we give you

00:44:32.389 --> 00:44:34.769
in the morning, if there was a list of side effects

00:44:34.769 --> 00:44:36.849
next to it, you'd never take it. You'd never

00:44:36.849 --> 00:44:39.230
have it. And if you're in the alternative medicine

00:44:39.230 --> 00:44:41.070
field, which is a terrible expression in and

00:44:41.070 --> 00:44:44.090
of itself, it's called nature, right? So I think

00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:46.130
pharmaceuticals should be deemed as alternative.

00:44:46.489 --> 00:44:48.530
Like when nature doesn't work, then you must

00:44:48.530 --> 00:44:55.070
have medicine of some kind. But I think it's

00:44:55.070 --> 00:44:56.920
astonishing that when somebody's going to go

00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.179
on a juice diet of any kind, people say, have

00:44:59.179 --> 00:45:01.139
you contacted your doctor first? I've heard this

00:45:01.139 --> 00:45:04.960
so many times. And yet, if you go to Vegas, no

00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:08.780
one says anything. So it's one of those strange

00:45:08.780 --> 00:45:11.420
anomalies where somebody sees you and they say

00:45:11.420 --> 00:45:13.280
juicing is dangerous. I've been doing this personally

00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.320
for over 25 years, quarter of a century. Not

00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.559
one single human on earth has ever died of juicing.

00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:21.539
Not one. Not one. And also, in the alternative

00:45:21.539 --> 00:45:23.179
field, you have such a short space of time to

00:45:23.179 --> 00:45:25.420
make a difference. Because the medical profession

00:45:25.420 --> 00:45:27.780
go, right, take that pill. Oh, you had side effects.

00:45:27.860 --> 00:45:29.260
Oh, it actually killed you, the side effect.

00:45:29.420 --> 00:45:31.360
Oh, sorry, that's just collateral damage. And

00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.059
they'll carry on. But I tell you, with juicing

00:45:34.059 --> 00:45:35.780
or something like this, you've got like seven

00:45:35.780 --> 00:45:37.719
days. Unless they feel phenomenal in seven days,

00:45:37.780 --> 00:45:39.460
they wouldn't even do it again. I mean, you've

00:45:39.460 --> 00:45:41.739
got such a short amount of time. Luckily, nature

00:45:41.739 --> 00:45:45.039
only wants to heal. So it does it. And I'm expanding

00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:46.920
the documentary next year. I'm expanding the

00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:48.559
experiment, the Big Juice experiment. I'm doing

00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:51.320
it with 90 people with every kind of lifestyle

00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.059
condition on earth, including poor eyesight,

00:45:54.219 --> 00:45:56.480
everything, just to see even for myself, just

00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.719
to put it to bed. I'll be paying for the whole

00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.760
thing myself and sticking it out for free. We're

00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.739
giving it to Netflix for free. We're giving it

00:46:02.739 --> 00:46:04.119
to Amazon Prime for free. It's just going to

00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.519
be for free for everyone. And it's just because

00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.219
it's one of those vocations that I just have

00:46:09.219 --> 00:46:12.510
to do to end it, to go. right, I can't do any

00:46:12.510 --> 00:46:15.389
more than this. This is now 90 people. Surely

00:46:15.389 --> 00:46:18.130
you can't dispute this now. And I don't know

00:46:18.130 --> 00:46:20.190
if everybody's going to get better or only 50%,

00:46:20.190 --> 00:46:25.809
but at least we'll have a decent bit of documentary

00:46:25.809 --> 00:46:28.250
footage to actually, we'll have a doctor there

00:46:28.250 --> 00:46:30.329
and all kinds of few doctors. Anyway, but that's

00:46:30.329 --> 00:46:32.449
next year. But yeah, so I think there isn't one

00:46:32.449 --> 00:46:34.289
single lifestyle. Well, it sounds obvious, isn't

00:46:34.289 --> 00:46:35.969
it? I mean, why am I even saying this? Where's

00:46:35.969 --> 00:46:41.159
logic? You know, we'll say. Is there any lifestyle

00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:43.659
condition that cannot be reversed through changing

00:46:43.659 --> 00:46:45.539
your lifestyle? Well, I mean, just the sentence

00:46:45.539 --> 00:46:50.099
itself. It's called a lifestyle condition. So

00:46:50.099 --> 00:46:52.579
what do you think? And again, brings us on to

00:46:52.579 --> 00:46:55.599
this COVID stuff. And it's a point that I've

00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:58.840
made for some time now. My original opinion was

00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:00.320
we shouldn't lock down. I know some people go

00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.280
mad about that, but that's fine. Especially at

00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.699
the beginning when I voiced it right at the beginning

00:47:04.699 --> 00:47:07.079
and I've never wavered at all. I think lockdown.

00:47:07.630 --> 00:47:09.889
uh was a huge mistake i think this continuing

00:47:09.889 --> 00:47:13.389
doubling down of the same stupidity um is also

00:47:13.389 --> 00:47:16.769
insane on every level um however i would have

00:47:16.769 --> 00:47:19.269
protected the vulnerable clearly and had everybody

00:47:19.269 --> 00:47:22.110
carry on i mean that would have been and got

00:47:22.110 --> 00:47:23.969
herd immunity this is the only way forward it

00:47:23.969 --> 00:47:25.050
should have been done there would have been no

00:47:25.050 --> 00:47:27.670
second wave um everything would have been i mean

00:47:27.670 --> 00:47:29.489
i don't understand it but equally people went

00:47:29.489 --> 00:47:32.250
mad because when boris johnson alluded to on

00:47:32.250 --> 00:47:35.269
this morning tv um that he was heading towards

00:47:35.269 --> 00:47:37.989
the swedish model of herd immunity to some extent

00:47:37.989 --> 00:47:40.269
he was the most relaxed in europe up until that

00:47:40.269 --> 00:47:42.070
point spain was already going mad he was going

00:47:42.070 --> 00:47:44.989
mad and it looked like the uk had a sensible

00:47:44.989 --> 00:47:48.130
head on this and then he did a 360 uter literally

00:47:48.130 --> 00:47:50.750
overnight because when he mentioned herd immunity

00:47:50.750 --> 00:47:53.650
then immediately what happened is that he got

00:47:53.650 --> 00:47:56.769
attacked obviously saying what is this you you

00:47:56.769 --> 00:47:59.210
don't mind if some people die well it's an interesting

00:47:59.210 --> 00:48:02.010
concept this because if you look at all medical

00:48:02.010 --> 00:48:04.599
drugs treatment So lockdown was a treatment for

00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:06.619
COVID. Let's bear that in mind. That's like having

00:48:06.619 --> 00:48:10.019
a drug. They claimed it was a treatment for this

00:48:10.019 --> 00:48:12.840
particular virus of some kind. They concur that

00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.199
what we do makes a difference and all the rest

00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:18.739
of it. So one of the side effects, even if you

00:48:18.739 --> 00:48:21.280
protected the vulnerable, one of these side effects

00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.719
might be collateral damage. Like all drugs, all

00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:25.719
drugs have collateral damage. But they didn't

00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:27.920
allow that same principle to be applied when

00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:29.880
it came to COVID to keep the economy going and

00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:31.360
everything else. And people said, oh, you care

00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:33.320
about more about money than people's lives. And

00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.280
these are insane people because this is about

00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.139
lives versus lives. This isn't about money versus

00:48:39.139 --> 00:48:42.260
lives. Lives versus lives. Two weeks ago, I was

00:48:42.260 --> 00:48:44.280
going to my retreat in Portugal. I got picked

00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.900
up at the airport. I talked to my driver. And

00:48:46.900 --> 00:48:49.360
he said his friend, who also has a transfer company,

00:48:49.579 --> 00:48:51.869
is going through hell right now. Because, of

00:48:51.869 --> 00:48:53.230
course, everybody with a business going through

00:48:53.230 --> 00:48:55.329
hell can't support his family anymore. He's really

00:48:55.329 --> 00:48:58.909
depressed. I then got the transfer on the way

00:48:58.909 --> 00:49:01.170
back. He was really upset. I said, are you all

00:49:01.170 --> 00:49:02.449
right? And he said, no, I'm not all right. Why

00:49:02.449 --> 00:49:04.710
is that? Because he bought a gun yesterday and

00:49:04.710 --> 00:49:07.429
blew his brains out. And the point is, that's

00:49:07.429 --> 00:49:10.110
not on CNN. That's not going to be on Sky News.

00:49:10.650 --> 00:49:14.050
And he's just one of thousands of people. Suicides

00:49:14.050 --> 00:49:16.369
are up. Child abuse is up. Domestic violence

00:49:16.369 --> 00:49:19.309
is up. Drug abuse is up. Alcohol abuse is up.

00:49:21.139 --> 00:49:23.119
misdiagnose, in fact, people that were too scared

00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:26.400
to go into hospital for cancer. Now they're realizing

00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:27.860
actually it's too late. Now they're on stage

00:49:27.860 --> 00:49:29.780
four and there's nothing that can be done. These

00:49:29.780 --> 00:49:32.500
aren't one or two, Jay. So this is what makes

00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:34.920
me mad when people go mad at me because the average

00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.719
age in the UK of people dying of, not necessarily

00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.699
with, sorry, dying with, not necessarily of COVID

00:49:40.699 --> 00:49:43.860
is 82. The average age of people dying of everything

00:49:43.860 --> 00:49:46.559
in the UK, just generally year on year is 81

00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.500
.7. So it's less for everything. So it's more

00:49:50.500 --> 00:49:53.260
for, it just seems you've got a higher age for

00:49:53.260 --> 00:49:54.719
COVID. There's a lot more to it than that. And

00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.559
it's very emotive. I understand for a lot of

00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:58.340
people that go, well, you know, my friend had

00:49:58.340 --> 00:50:01.460
it. My friend died and he wasn't 82. No, I get

00:50:01.460 --> 00:50:02.719
that. You can say that about anything. My mom

00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:04.320
died of stage four lung cancer. You can say,

00:50:04.340 --> 00:50:06.219
look, there's a million things you can say about

00:50:06.219 --> 00:50:07.920
this. But one thing is for sure that while I'm

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.360
in Spain right now and, you know, they brought

00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.099
in mandatory mask wearing 12 weeks ago, 14 weeks

00:50:13.099 --> 00:50:14.980
ago. And the numbers are now through the roof.

00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.480
At the time of recording this, the numbers are

00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:18.739
through the roof. And when I say numbers, that's

00:50:18.739 --> 00:50:22.199
cases, not deaths, cases. I don't know why all

00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:23.860
of a sudden they stopped mentioning the death

00:50:23.860 --> 00:50:26.199
rate and only mentioned the cases rate. I mean,

00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:27.559
it just seems like, well, you managed to do a

00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.739
360 on that as well. And people are just not

00:50:29.739 --> 00:50:32.440
noticing what's going on. And there are people

00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:34.340
having to, you have to wear a mask outside. So

00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:36.059
the numbers have gone up. It's been mandatory

00:50:36.059 --> 00:50:38.320
mask wearing. So clearly no one's saying, well,

00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:39.730
they're not working then, are they? No one's

00:50:39.730 --> 00:50:42.610
saying it. If the numbers had gone down, they

00:50:42.610 --> 00:50:44.489
would have said something. And what furiates

00:50:44.489 --> 00:50:47.070
me is they've managed to hoodwink so many people

00:50:47.070 --> 00:50:49.230
to say, right, if the numbers go down, that's

00:50:49.230 --> 00:50:51.050
because of the measures we put in. And if the

00:50:51.050 --> 00:50:53.150
numbers go up, well, that's because you've been,

00:50:53.190 --> 00:50:55.429
I'm afraid you've been reckless and you've had

00:50:55.429 --> 00:50:59.170
a party. And now they've got literally everybody

00:50:59.170 --> 00:51:00.869
fighting against each other and going, you shouldn't

00:51:00.869 --> 00:51:01.809
have had a party, you shouldn't have done that.

00:51:01.889 --> 00:51:04.550
In fact, you've got regional, almost like virus.

00:51:05.619 --> 00:51:07.800
virus racism almost like coming in like people

00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.179
in cornwall i go keep those londoners out they're

00:51:10.179 --> 00:51:13.199
going to infect i mean it's just madness what

00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.239
has gone on um and at the moment if i go to the

00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:18.480
uk at the time of doing this i have to self -isolate

00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.820
for 14 days um even if i flew from portugal the

00:51:21.820 --> 00:51:23.860
numbers in portugal are way lower than the uk

00:51:23.860 --> 00:51:26.420
but yeah i'd have to self -isolate the minute

00:51:26.420 --> 00:51:28.239
i get into the uk that has much higher numbers

00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.500
none of it's logical none of it makes any sense

00:51:30.500 --> 00:51:33.179
so i don't know where this is going so but again

00:51:33.820 --> 00:51:36.539
We are talking about the first point of call

00:51:36.539 --> 00:51:38.719
for most people is that they will just believe

00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.780
whoever's in a white coat and whoever's in government.

00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:43.820
Even though there's so many scientists that are

00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:46.139
vehemently against lockdown and they conveniently

00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:48.260
just ignoring Sweden, obviously just ignore that

00:51:48.260 --> 00:51:50.840
as if that hasn't happened and don't mention

00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:52.880
it. Anyway, that's my, I don't want to get political

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.280
on this podcast, but it's just all of a sudden

00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.650
you just go, well, look. I'm afraid, I believe,

00:51:59.750 --> 00:52:01.230
and I always have believed, that lockdown essentially,

00:52:01.610 --> 00:52:03.469
protect the vulnerable, should have always protected

00:52:03.469 --> 00:52:04.489
the vulnerable. It should have been the first

00:52:04.489 --> 00:52:06.969
point of call. So if you're going to say to anybody,

00:52:07.090 --> 00:52:08.690
if you're 75, you've got underlying health conditions,

00:52:08.829 --> 00:52:11.849
don't go out. You don't meet anybody. You only

00:52:11.849 --> 00:52:14.309
go on Skype and Zoom. That's fair enough. We'll

00:52:14.309 --> 00:52:16.010
deliver food to you. We'll look after you. We

00:52:16.010 --> 00:52:18.130
put as many finances as you like. No one's going

00:52:18.130 --> 00:52:21.889
to go unhelped. But everybody else, crack on.

00:52:22.269 --> 00:52:24.510
Just crack on. Get herd immunity. And you have

00:52:24.510 --> 00:52:26.829
more resources then for the vulnerable. And that's

00:52:26.829 --> 00:52:28.670
the thing. We were talking before we started

00:52:28.670 --> 00:52:31.690
recording. In the U .S. alone, in the last seven

00:52:31.690 --> 00:52:33.829
months, looking at the last few years' statistics,

00:52:34.190 --> 00:52:37.510
200 ,000 people would have died of obesity -related

00:52:37.510 --> 00:52:40.510
deaths and 300 ,000 people would have died of

00:52:40.510 --> 00:52:42.789
smoking -related deaths. So that's half a million

00:52:42.789 --> 00:52:45.750
people. So that's my thing is if we're so worried

00:52:45.750 --> 00:52:48.849
about health, which we damn well should be. then

00:52:48.849 --> 00:52:50.789
why is that element not being addressed? But

00:52:50.789 --> 00:52:52.889
it's not. It's just the virus, the virus, the

00:52:52.889 --> 00:52:54.789
virus. We've had a captive audience for seven

00:52:54.789 --> 00:52:57.070
months and no mention of wellness whatsoever.

00:52:57.789 --> 00:53:01.250
No, and it seems insanity. And you just think,

00:53:01.309 --> 00:53:02.670
I mean, I made a joke. I mean, I've got a dark

00:53:02.670 --> 00:53:03.989
sense of humor. So anybody listening to this

00:53:03.989 --> 00:53:05.469
go, oh, it's outrageous you're saying that. But

00:53:05.469 --> 00:53:08.130
I mean, I think it's quite funny. But the government

00:53:08.130 --> 00:53:10.050
could have implemented the best COVID mask on

00:53:10.050 --> 00:53:11.429
earth. It's the one that's got a padlock on it.

00:53:11.610 --> 00:53:16.070
And it stops people from eating. And you can

00:53:16.070 --> 00:53:17.510
only eat this on a time frame. You're going to

00:53:17.510 --> 00:53:19.289
eat for two hours a day. That's a joke, clearly,

00:53:19.429 --> 00:53:21.650
anybody listening. But like you said, to combat

00:53:21.650 --> 00:53:24.110
obesity would be the number one thing. But what

00:53:24.110 --> 00:53:25.409
I think this has, there's always good that can

00:53:25.409 --> 00:53:27.070
come out of anything. So there's always good

00:53:27.070 --> 00:53:28.230
that can come out of anything. And I honestly

00:53:28.230 --> 00:53:30.130
believe that at the end of all of this, if there

00:53:30.130 --> 00:53:32.630
is indeed an end, that what will come out is

00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:34.909
that we're doing a campaign next year entitled

00:53:34.909 --> 00:53:37.809
Ask Not What You Can Do for the National Health

00:53:37.809 --> 00:53:40.480
Service. uh sorry ask not what the national health

00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.199
service can do for you but what can you do for

00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:44.460
the national health service and and what this

00:53:44.460 --> 00:53:46.940
has woken people up to is that it was all very

00:53:46.940 --> 00:53:48.980
well and good stepping outside your doors they

00:53:48.980 --> 00:53:51.199
did the uk every thursday night to give a round

00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:53.539
of applause to all of the key workers and of

00:53:53.539 --> 00:53:55.239
course nothing wrong with that it was a great

00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.280
noble thing to do they i think everybody should

00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.239
be doing that every week anyway because most

00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.699
people have no idea what all of the key workers

00:54:02.699 --> 00:54:05.079
from firemen all the way through to policemen

00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:06.739
to nurses the doctors what they go through every

00:54:06.739 --> 00:54:09.250
week i mean It was just highlighted during COVID,

00:54:09.369 --> 00:54:10.809
right? So we should all be doing that anyway.

00:54:11.389 --> 00:54:13.550
But actually, if you really want to help, then

00:54:13.550 --> 00:54:16.250
actually, shouldn't we be taking care of ourselves

00:54:16.250 --> 00:54:17.730
a little bit more? Because if you really want,

00:54:17.829 --> 00:54:19.510
if you're worried about the doctors, nurses and

00:54:19.510 --> 00:54:22.150
overrunning of the health service, then don't

00:54:22.150 --> 00:54:23.730
you want to not be a part of it then? Or do you

00:54:23.730 --> 00:54:25.710
want to do whatever you can do personally? If

00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:27.570
you really care, it requires effort on your part

00:54:27.570 --> 00:54:29.730
rather than just going outside clapping and filming

00:54:29.730 --> 00:54:31.369
yourself clapping, which I never understood that

00:54:31.369 --> 00:54:33.289
by the way. So a lot of people are filming themselves

00:54:33.289 --> 00:54:37.599
clapping. Because really, okay, we've noticed

00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:39.900
you're a good person. Well done, right? Never

00:54:39.900 --> 00:54:43.239
really understood that. But anyway, instead of

00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:44.500
doing that, why don't you just get a juice in

00:54:44.500 --> 00:54:46.880
front of you? Why don't you do something? Or

00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:49.360
just eat healthy, do more exercise. And it doesn't

00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:51.960
guarantee you that you'll get, listen, disease

00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.059
is indiscriminate in many cases. But we do know

00:54:55.059 --> 00:54:58.559
that nutrition plays a major, major role in the

00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.000
majority of lifestyle diseases. That's a fact.

00:55:01.059 --> 00:55:03.199
That's undisputed. Metabolic disease in particular.

00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.179
And so therefore, I'm afraid personal responsibility,

00:55:06.460 --> 00:55:08.239
as harsh as it is, has to come in. So if you're

00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:11.340
willing, without question, to put on a mask and

00:55:11.340 --> 00:55:13.340
start shouting at other people without a mask

00:55:13.340 --> 00:55:17.420
or you, I mean, in Spain it was mad. We had to

00:55:17.420 --> 00:55:21.719
wear gloves. I mean, during the whole peak of

00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.500
March and April, masks weren't used at all. There

00:55:24.500 --> 00:55:26.559
was no quarantine from any country in the UK.

00:55:27.099 --> 00:55:29.599
I mean, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh,

00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.559
no, you must wear a mask. But hang on, the whole

00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:33.980
freaking nightmare of it. You didn't have to

00:55:33.980 --> 00:55:36.340
wear a mask. You went around supermarkets. Everybody

00:55:36.340 --> 00:55:39.300
was next to each other. There was this and the

00:55:39.300 --> 00:55:43.199
other. But they didn't think masks were then?

00:55:43.380 --> 00:55:45.239
What are you saying? What, all of a sudden they

00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:51.340
do? I just don't. But no one can. You can probably

00:55:51.340 --> 00:55:54.840
hear my frustration. But anyway, I don't want

00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:56.519
to get too, but yeah, you're right. Health. Listen,

00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:59.099
ask yourself, what can I do? What can I do? What

00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:01.849
can I do today? just to even if it's a juicer

00:56:01.849 --> 00:56:03.510
day whatever i need to build my immune system

00:56:03.510 --> 00:56:05.630
right you got one anyway we all have immune system

00:56:05.630 --> 00:56:07.989
but you don't want it weak right you want it

00:56:07.989 --> 00:56:09.750
to be as strong as it possibly can so at least

00:56:09.750 --> 00:56:11.510
you're semi -prepared that's not saying covid

00:56:11.510 --> 00:56:13.050
won't get you there are some people that are

00:56:13.050 --> 00:56:14.789
healthy as hell equally though when everybody

00:56:14.789 --> 00:56:17.289
argues that point to me i said it was a 26 year

00:56:17.289 --> 00:56:18.829
old runner who run the london marathon who just

00:56:18.829 --> 00:56:20.510
collapsed and died but that doesn't mean they

00:56:20.510 --> 00:56:23.829
all do it's a fluke yeah you're gonna get flukes

00:56:23.829 --> 00:56:26.610
in everything And we see them in our profession.

00:56:26.650 --> 00:56:28.250
We see the anomalies, you know what I mean? And

00:56:28.250 --> 00:56:30.809
they exist, but you don't use that as your standard.

00:56:31.670 --> 00:56:34.389
No, no, no, no. Exactly. So, I mean, that's how

00:56:34.389 --> 00:56:37.079
it is. So, yeah. Beautiful. Well, I want to make

00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.320
sure we get, you know, all the content out there

00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:42.300
before we run out of time. So I watched Super

00:56:42.300 --> 00:56:45.000
Juice Me. We had the app. I did a three -day

00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:48.019
kind of reset with my wife a little while ago.

00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:50.840
And, you know, it was amazing. It reset my alcohol,

00:56:50.940 --> 00:56:54.199
reset my caffeine. It was phenomenal. So I personally

00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:57.000
have done, you know, one of the shorter fasts.

00:56:57.380 --> 00:56:59.840
And, you know, I thought it was incredible. So

00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:02.139
for people listening, where can they find...

00:57:02.590 --> 00:57:04.630
the film and then where can they find more information

00:57:04.630 --> 00:57:08.190
on the books and the app and the retreats i would

00:57:08.190 --> 00:57:10.489
always say just just find the movie first go

00:57:10.489 --> 00:57:13.969
on to youtube uh type in uh juice tube which

00:57:13.969 --> 00:57:16.329
is my youtube channel it's sponsor free and advert

00:57:16.329 --> 00:57:18.250
free i don't make any money for my youtube channel

00:57:18.250 --> 00:57:21.710
um amazon prime we've got the film um again i

00:57:21.710 --> 00:57:24.309
give to them uh free of charge watch the film

00:57:24.309 --> 00:57:26.809
my actual website is juice master .com but again

00:57:26.809 --> 00:57:28.690
you know it's one of those go and watch the movie

00:57:28.690 --> 00:57:31.190
first i would say right go and see the film first

00:57:31.690 --> 00:57:34.349
See if it's for you. Take it on board. It's a

00:57:34.349 --> 00:57:36.769
bit like the film The Game Changers. You know,

00:57:36.789 --> 00:57:38.849
people just say, oh, all that's doing is trying

00:57:38.849 --> 00:57:40.349
to make people vegan. I said, no, you've got

00:57:40.349 --> 00:57:42.409
to look at the bigger picture. If a film simply

00:57:42.409 --> 00:57:44.329
encourages you to eat more plants, then it's

00:57:44.329 --> 00:57:45.869
a great film. I don't care about anything else,

00:57:45.969 --> 00:57:48.349
right? And that's how it works. And I think anything

00:57:48.349 --> 00:57:50.949
that encourages you to either drink more plants

00:57:50.949 --> 00:57:54.010
or eat more plants, then it's fine. The only

00:57:54.010 --> 00:57:55.750
reason why I drink them is because I know I'll

00:57:55.750 --> 00:57:58.289
never get the sheer volume of different colored

00:57:58.289 --> 00:58:01.059
fruits and vegetables and the variation. into

00:58:01.059 --> 00:58:03.719
my body every day unless i juice them now it

00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.960
doesn't mean you wouldn't get wonderful but clearly

00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:09.739
incredible benefits if you just love eating vegetables

00:58:09.739 --> 00:58:12.219
then fine you know juicing is a catalyst it's

00:58:12.219 --> 00:58:14.900
not a necessity it's a catalyst but one thing

00:58:14.900 --> 00:58:17.579
i would say is that if you have big changes to

00:58:17.579 --> 00:58:21.099
make i would say do seven days on even if you're

00:58:21.099 --> 00:58:24.920
skeptical just do seven days on a well -thought

00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:26.599
-through juice plan do the first seven days of

00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.829
super juice for example then on day eight, then

00:58:29.829 --> 00:58:31.789
tell me you're not sold for life because it's

00:58:31.789 --> 00:58:33.309
almost like you've been in the film Limitless

00:58:33.309 --> 00:58:35.250
with Bradley Cooper. It's like somebody's plunged

00:58:35.250 --> 00:58:37.449
you in and you come out the other side and all

00:58:37.449 --> 00:58:39.650
you crave is salad and you don't know why and

00:58:39.650 --> 00:58:41.789
you wonder why your cravings are gone. And like

00:58:41.789 --> 00:58:43.550
you said, you'll reset and all of a sudden you

00:58:43.550 --> 00:58:45.650
feel good. You've lost at least seven pounds

00:58:45.650 --> 00:58:47.210
if you're a woman, 10 pounds if you're a man.

00:58:47.309 --> 00:58:49.190
That's if you had weight to lose. So if weight

00:58:49.190 --> 00:58:50.690
loss is a thing for you in a very short space

00:58:50.690 --> 00:58:53.570
of time, so you have momentum and that can take

00:58:53.570 --> 00:58:55.530
you a long way. There was a woman at the retreat

00:58:55.530 --> 00:59:00.059
last week. actually post out next week but it's

00:59:00.059 --> 00:59:03.460
she lost 50 kilos that's what's 120 pounds wow

00:59:03.460 --> 00:59:06.380
from one retreat two years ago that acted as

00:59:06.380 --> 00:59:08.840
a catalyst she did seven days and then it just

00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:11.679
set her on this journey she's she's she's different

00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:14.719
human and she has no excess skin either no she's

00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.159
now got like what deems to be a six -pack wow

00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.329
that's incredible It really is incredible. And

00:59:20.329 --> 00:59:23.369
those, you know, on Instagram, I run my own Instagram.

00:59:23.510 --> 00:59:24.750
So if you want to contact me personally, just

00:59:24.750 --> 00:59:28.030
at Jason Vale on Instagram. And that's where

00:59:28.030 --> 00:59:30.909
you'll find me most of the time. But if you scroll

00:59:30.909 --> 00:59:32.730
through the post, you'll see that one. You will

00:59:32.730 --> 00:59:35.869
see that one down. And she's unrecognizable,

00:59:35.949 --> 00:59:38.190
to say the least. But there's so many examples

00:59:38.190 --> 00:59:40.440
of that. You know, it's crazy. Fantastic. Well,

00:59:40.579 --> 00:59:42.960
I'm actually going to be in Portugal in December.

00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:44.659
I have to snake my way through Europe, whatever

00:59:44.659 --> 00:59:47.440
route I have to take. I'm still waiting for the

00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:50.000
craziness to die down. But one day I'm hoping

00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.159
to come visit and see the retreat because, I

00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.039
mean, again, for people that want a hard reset,

00:59:54.179 --> 00:59:56.039
that seems like another incredible option to

00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:59.909
combine. Well, if you are in Portugal in December,

00:59:59.989 --> 01:00:01.789
I think we're open until the 12th and then we're

01:00:01.789 --> 01:00:04.230
gone. So if you're there at all before you're

01:00:04.230 --> 01:00:05.909
in central Portugal, I'll be there for the final

01:00:05.909 --> 01:00:08.909
week. Then, yeah, then come on over for sure.

01:00:09.269 --> 01:00:12.769
And, yeah, just let's have a juice together.

01:00:13.289 --> 01:00:15.710
We're just building a new retreat in the Algarve

01:00:15.710 --> 01:00:17.530
in Portugal. Actually, that's a huge one. That's

01:00:17.530 --> 01:00:20.030
going to be Europe's healthiest playground, we're

01:00:20.030 --> 01:00:22.349
calling it. But that'll be my last retreat I

01:00:22.349 --> 01:00:25.389
ever built. Whereabouts in the Algarve? Because

01:00:25.389 --> 01:00:29.150
that's where my family live. It's near Altura,

01:00:29.190 --> 01:00:31.769
which is near the Spanish border. Okay, beautiful.

01:00:31.989 --> 01:00:34.010
So I'll probably come do that one because I don't

01:00:34.010 --> 01:00:36.030
think I'm going to be there early enough for

01:00:36.030 --> 01:00:38.829
this year. But yeah, I'm in Algarve every single

01:00:38.829 --> 01:00:40.780
year pretty much. Wow. Then you come and see

01:00:40.780 --> 01:00:42.980
Juicy Escape is what it's called. So, yeah, come

01:00:42.980 --> 01:00:45.380
do that. Nice one, Jack. Really. Thank you so

01:00:45.380 --> 01:00:46.880
much for having me on. Really appreciate this

01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.699
very candid conversation and the freedom to do

01:00:50.699 --> 01:00:52.980
so. Hope that whoever is listening obviously

01:00:52.980 --> 01:00:56.579
has listened with an open mind and understood

01:00:56.579 --> 01:00:58.639
that, you know, we're not talking. Well, I'm

01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:02.980
not talking about Covid in a flippant way. And

01:01:02.980 --> 01:01:05.099
I just believe there's a big distinction when

01:01:05.099 --> 01:01:07.579
it comes to Covid between. being COVID conscious,

01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:10.420
which I think is which we have to be, and COVID

01:01:10.420 --> 01:01:12.699
crazy. And there's a line down the middle. And

01:01:12.699 --> 01:01:15.699
I think to be COVID conscious is to understand

01:01:15.699 --> 01:01:18.239
and to look around the numbers genuinely and

01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:20.280
what's actually happening. And COVID crazy is

01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:23.239
just if you just buy the media entirely. And

01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.199
because, of course, they're run by fear. So it's

01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.320
in their interest, their massive interest to

01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.380
make you angry and fearful, because then you'll

01:01:29.380 --> 01:01:32.420
watch them more. And if they lock down, so someone

01:01:32.420 --> 01:01:34.039
like Piers Morgan saying lockdown, lockdown in

01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:36.340
the UK, well, of course, his job doesn't stop.

01:01:36.670 --> 01:01:38.269
I mean, he's got special press parts. He'll just

01:01:38.269 --> 01:01:40.690
go in and out of work. His life hardly ever changes

01:01:40.690 --> 01:01:42.449
at all. And these viewing figures go through

01:01:42.449 --> 01:01:44.710
the roof as he gets mad. So you've got to always

01:01:44.710 --> 01:01:47.489
understand somebody's personal intention on this

01:01:47.489 --> 01:01:49.190
as well. Anyway, I'll leave that there, James.