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And if you want to take a deeper dive 00:03:13.740 --> 00:03:18.259 into Team Builder, listen to episode 1032 with 00:03:18.259 --> 00:03:22.280 Melissa Mercado or go to teambuilder .com. And 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:23.800 I'll spell that to you because it's not as you 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:30.110 think, T -E -A -M -B -U -I -L -D -R .com. Welcome 00:03:30.110 --> 00:03:31.889 to the Behind the Shield podcast. As always, 00:03:31.909 --> 00:03:33.689 my name is James Gearing, and this week it is 00:03:33.689 --> 00:03:36.189 my absolute honor to welcome back for the third 00:03:36.189 --> 00:03:40.389 time Army psychologist and author of multiple 00:03:40.389 --> 00:03:44.509 books, Lieutenant Colonel Dave Grossman. Now, 00:03:44.509 --> 00:03:47.270 in this conversation, we discuss a host of topics, 00:03:47.330 --> 00:03:50.930 from his new work studying hunting, the impact 00:03:50.930 --> 00:03:55.050 of the defund movement, Ovaldi, school safety, 00:03:55.349 --> 00:03:59.759 sleep, therapy dogs. tourniquets and so much 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.699 more now before we get to this incredible conversation 00:04:02.699 --> 00:04:05.699 as i say every week please just take a moment 00:04:05.699 --> 00:04:08.800 go to whichever app you listen to this on subscribe 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:12.120 to the show leave feedback and leave a rating 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.800 Every single five -star rating truly does elevate 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:18.420 this podcast, therefore making it easier for 00:04:18.420 --> 00:04:21.959 others to find. And this is a free library of 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:26.639 well over 1 ,000 episodes now. So all I ask in 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.680 return is that you help share these incredible 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.360 men and women's stories so I can get them to 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:35.379 every single person on planet Earth who needs 00:04:35.379 --> 00:04:38.800 to hear them. So with that being said, I welcome 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:42.529 back onto the show, Lieutenant Colonel... Dave 00:04:42.529 --> 00:05:04.819 Grossman enjoy Well, Dave, I want to say thank 00:05:04.819 --> 00:05:07.660 you so, so much for coming back onto the Behind 00:05:07.660 --> 00:05:09.879 the Shield podcast. You're one of my very first 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.800 guests on episode 27. So we're talking eight 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.800 years ago now. And then it was about six, seven 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.459 years ago when you came on last. So that was 00:05:18.459 --> 00:05:21.019 episode 99. So I want to welcome you back today 00:05:21.019 --> 00:05:24.620 in 2025. Thank you, James. And thanks for all 00:05:24.620 --> 00:05:27.430 that you've been doing. Looking at your achievements, 00:05:27.569 --> 00:05:29.610 the people watching, the lives you've been touching. 00:05:30.069 --> 00:05:32.269 Congratulations. You know, we survived the pandemic 00:05:32.269 --> 00:05:34.089 and we were there for people when they needed 00:05:34.089 --> 00:05:37.089 us. And before going further, I should introduce 00:05:37.089 --> 00:05:39.990 to your listeners here, your learners. They're 00:05:39.990 --> 00:05:41.509 not listeners. They're learners. They're not 00:05:41.509 --> 00:05:43.949 there to listen. They're to learn. And this is 00:05:43.949 --> 00:05:46.970 Charlie. And Charlie is a True Blue service dog. 00:05:47.069 --> 00:05:48.610 And later in the show, I want to talk to you 00:05:48.610 --> 00:05:52.170 about he's what they call a hearing dog. My ears 00:05:52.170 --> 00:05:55.399 are shot. You can't sleep with your hearing aids 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:59.459 in. So Charlie lets me know when the alarm goes 00:05:59.459 --> 00:06:01.079 off in the morning. And he lets me know when 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:03.279 somebody knocks on the door. And later on in 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:04.839 the show, let's spend a few minutes talking about 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.399 the whole service dog. Because it's a really 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.339 important subject when we talk about wellness. 00:06:09.819 --> 00:06:13.300 And we'll make that next step as we strive for 00:06:13.300 --> 00:06:17.519 that level. But it's been a good ride. We survived 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:21.399 the pandemic, you and I both. And it's been crazy 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:27.089 times. My book, On Combat, received the Ukrainian 00:06:27.089 --> 00:06:29.569 translation, received the Book of the Year award. 00:06:29.930 --> 00:06:32.910 Amazing. And their military brought me out in 00:06:32.910 --> 00:06:37.629 May, June of 2024 now to train their military 00:06:37.629 --> 00:06:39.470 across the country. We can talk briefly. You 00:06:39.470 --> 00:06:42.430 know, I had this, they're all small audiences 00:06:42.430 --> 00:06:44.290 because you put too many people together, it 00:06:44.290 --> 00:06:47.870 becomes a target. And there were two or three 00:06:47.870 --> 00:06:51.290 a day with the translator. And I generally had 00:06:51.290 --> 00:06:53.709 to fit it into an hour. And look at these guys. 00:06:53.769 --> 00:06:57.250 I got a son who just retired after nine combat 00:06:57.250 --> 00:06:59.990 tours. I got a grandson who's in Kuwait right 00:06:59.990 --> 00:07:03.329 now. And I thought, what if that was my grandson? 00:07:03.910 --> 00:07:07.050 This is my son. This is the book I wrote for 00:07:07.050 --> 00:07:10.250 my son going to his first combat tour. And if 00:07:10.250 --> 00:07:12.209 I only had an hour, with translation slowing 00:07:12.209 --> 00:07:14.470 it down, if I only had an hour, what would I 00:07:14.470 --> 00:07:16.509 want my grandson to know before he's back in 00:07:16.509 --> 00:07:18.649 the trenches? So we can talk about that a little 00:07:18.649 --> 00:07:22.699 bit if you want. But a great ride. And we're 00:07:22.699 --> 00:07:26.420 still rocking on, you and I both. Good way to 00:07:26.420 --> 00:07:28.819 begin this, and I begin in my presentations, 00:07:29.180 --> 00:07:34.620 is why we stay in the fight. For all first responders 00:07:34.620 --> 00:07:36.899 out there, it's terrible. You know, I work for 00:07:36.899 --> 00:07:39.259 one of our nation's largest fire departments. 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:42.259 And they said the cops have terrible recruiting. 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.139 But the fire guys always had ample numbers, but 00:07:45.139 --> 00:07:48.040 not anymore. Now they're not getting the numbers. 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:51.399 You know, those behind the badge, those who stand 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:53.660 behind the shield, those who go in harm's way, 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:57.079 those who are willing to do that, they've really, 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.000 really gone down. And what happens if nobody 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.959 wants to do this job? What happens if nobody 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.579 wants to be a cop? Nobody wants to be fire, EMS? 00:08:06.060 --> 00:08:10.040 What would it be like? Chaos and despair. And 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:13.240 this is the breakdown of our civilization since 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.879 we last talked. We should talk a little bit about 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:20.110 crime data. Because in 2020, the homicide rate 00:08:20.110 --> 00:08:22.649 exploded like nothing we have ever seen before. 00:08:23.449 --> 00:08:26.990 The last time we talked, we talked about how 00:08:26.990 --> 00:08:29.750 medical technology is holding down the murder 00:08:29.750 --> 00:08:32.929 rate. It's much, much worse than it looks. And, 00:08:33.009 --> 00:08:36.149 you know, we talked about the fact that tourniquets 00:08:36.149 --> 00:08:39.269 alone have cut the murder rate in half easily, 00:08:39.629 --> 00:08:42.049 probably much, much more. So I carry, I like 00:08:42.049 --> 00:08:44.590 the SWAT key. It fits everywhere. I've got one 00:08:44.590 --> 00:08:46.919 in my... everywhere, every jacket pocket, every 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.740 glove compartment, and the combat gauze. And 00:08:50.740 --> 00:08:52.059 when we talk about tourniquets, we're talking 00:08:52.059 --> 00:08:54.720 about packing wounds. We're not just stopping 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.720 there. You know, we're talking about the T -triple 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:03.340 -C type dynamics. And so you've got to rep your 00:09:03.340 --> 00:09:07.019 murder. Just tremendously underrepresent the 00:09:07.019 --> 00:09:09.360 situation. It's far more worse than it looks. 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:12.539 We've got one good solid data point from the 00:09:12.539 --> 00:09:17.659 1960s to the 1990s. Medical technology, 911 systems, 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.539 medevacs, medical technology cut the murder rate 00:09:22.539 --> 00:09:26.279 to a third or a quarter would otherwise be. That 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:31.960 is, compare the murders in the 1990s to the 1960s. 00:09:32.340 --> 00:09:35.480 You've got to multiply the 90s by a ratio of 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:38.059 three or four. And the leaps and bounds of life 00:09:38.059 --> 00:09:41.580 -saving technology are astounding. What if somebody 00:09:41.580 --> 00:09:44.549 said, your grandpa made 25 cents an hour? This 00:09:44.549 --> 00:09:48.549 job pays $25 an hour. You're 110 richer than 00:09:48.549 --> 00:09:51.309 your grandpa. That's your BS meter going off. 00:09:51.750 --> 00:09:56.330 We all know about inflation. But I had the opportunity 00:09:56.330 --> 00:09:58.570 to be at the White House with President Trump. 00:09:58.730 --> 00:10:03.190 It was kind of a fun story, just part of a roundtable 00:10:03.190 --> 00:10:05.769 thing. And then back to the White House to brief 00:10:05.769 --> 00:10:08.409 Vice President Pence. And I said, just like we 00:10:08.409 --> 00:10:11.649 have inflation -adjusted dollars, we need medically 00:10:11.649 --> 00:10:15.230 -adjusted murders. And when we do that, it will 00:10:15.230 --> 00:10:18.730 transform the way we see the situation. So when 00:10:18.730 --> 00:10:22.169 we talk about murders, we see some terrible murder. 00:10:22.309 --> 00:10:25.629 Oh, that proves that mankind's a killer. It's 00:10:25.629 --> 00:10:28.809 an outlier. It's one in a million. We are a nation 00:10:28.809 --> 00:10:32.830 of a third of a billion people. That one terrible 00:10:32.830 --> 00:10:34.169 crime you heard about, that's one in a third 00:10:34.169 --> 00:10:39.110 of a billion. Explain to me that on any given 00:10:39.110 --> 00:10:42.940 day, we have an average of about 50. murders 00:10:42.940 --> 00:10:45.799 a day. Now, that under -represents a problem 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.440 because technology is saving more lives. But 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:56.379 if we save 25 lives a day, we slap a aggregate 00:10:56.379 --> 00:10:59.480 on 25 people and save a crime victim's life, 00:10:59.700 --> 00:11:03.500 we cut the murder rate in half. And, you know, 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:06.720 roughly one murder per day per state, although 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.909 it's not distributed like that. I trained our 00:11:09.909 --> 00:11:11.909 nation's largest fire EMS service. They said, 00:11:11.970 --> 00:11:15.950 Dave, we guarantee you, in our city alone, 20 00:11:15.950 --> 00:11:18.190 to 30 times a day, we slap on a tourniquet and 00:11:18.190 --> 00:11:22.950 save a crime victim's life. It's bad. It's so 00:11:22.950 --> 00:11:25.210 much worse. And here are the people in the middle 00:11:25.210 --> 00:11:28.610 of all that, just behind the shield, trying to 00:11:28.610 --> 00:11:30.769 sustain themselves in these tragic, tragic times. 00:11:31.190 --> 00:11:33.730 So I've been giving them presentations. I outline 00:11:33.730 --> 00:11:36.049 how bad it is, because the first step in resiliency 00:11:36.049 --> 00:11:40.970 is motivation. You got to believe that your sacrifice 00:11:40.970 --> 00:11:44.549 is for a noble and worthy purpose. And when you 00:11:44.549 --> 00:11:47.470 chose to wear the shield, fire, EMS, cops, when 00:11:47.470 --> 00:11:50.750 you chose to stand behind the shield, you chose 00:11:50.750 --> 00:11:53.470 a life of sacrifice. You're never going to get 00:11:53.470 --> 00:11:57.529 stinking, filthy, American dream rich as a first 00:11:57.529 --> 00:12:00.850 responder, at least not legally. You're never 00:12:00.850 --> 00:12:03.629 going to be a famous celebrity as a first responder, 00:12:03.830 --> 00:12:07.240 at least not in a good way. When you chose this 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.220 profession, you chose a life of sacrifice. And 00:12:11.220 --> 00:12:15.200 you must believe your sacrifice for a noble and 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:20.980 worthy purpose. If it's so bad, why do we stay 00:12:20.980 --> 00:12:24.179 in the fight? In 2020, we've never seen more 00:12:24.179 --> 00:12:27.080 than a 12 % annual increase in homicides. In 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:30.080 2020, it was 30%. It was the George Floyd effect. 00:12:30.259 --> 00:12:32.419 The data's there. The FBI guys talk about it. 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:36.419 It began in May. of 2020. We've never seen anything 00:12:36.419 --> 00:12:39.200 remotely like what happened. An increase in homicides, 00:12:39.460 --> 00:12:42.539 threefold worse than anything we've ever seen. 00:12:42.700 --> 00:12:45.879 And if we allow for medical technology, it's 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:47.639 more like 10, 20 times worse than anything we've 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:49.159 ever seen. The wheels will come off the bus. 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:53.840 The next year, 2021, it bumped up 4%. Now, oh, 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:56.159 it's down the next year. It's nothing compared 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:00.080 to the up we saw in 2020. And there's so much 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.740 more to talk about on crime rate stuff. And we've 00:13:02.740 --> 00:13:05.129 got this survey. And then we've got what the 00:13:05.129 --> 00:13:08.450 cops report. And the National Crime Victim Survey 00:13:08.450 --> 00:13:14.409 says we've got, in some cases, 100 times more 00:13:14.409 --> 00:13:17.889 recorded in the survey than in what the cops 00:13:17.889 --> 00:13:20.590 are reporting. There's whole parts of our society 00:13:20.590 --> 00:13:22.730 that don't report crime, that don't trust crime, 00:13:22.870 --> 00:13:25.649 that don't report it. Usually dead people get 00:13:25.649 --> 00:13:29.350 counted. But the rest of it's just not happening. 00:13:29.570 --> 00:13:32.710 And it's coming unglued. So why would anybody 00:13:32.710 --> 00:13:36.389 do this job? Well, I asked the question to my 00:13:36.389 --> 00:13:39.549 audience. I said, what's the opposite of evil? 00:13:40.970 --> 00:13:45.009 And I submit to you, the opposite of evil is 00:13:45.009 --> 00:13:50.029 love. Evil is the absence of love, just as darkness 00:13:50.029 --> 00:13:54.629 is the absence of light. And love is what truly 00:13:54.629 --> 00:13:58.789 makes us do what we do. And it's called empathy. 00:13:59.210 --> 00:14:01.289 You know what makes a great responder? It's empathy. 00:14:02.009 --> 00:14:04.350 What if it was my family trapped in that burning 00:14:04.350 --> 00:14:07.029 building? What if it were my spouse that had 00:14:07.029 --> 00:14:09.389 been raped? What if my child had been murdered? 00:14:09.730 --> 00:14:13.570 What if my dad lay in there needing CPR? That's 00:14:13.570 --> 00:14:16.649 empathy. And empathy is love with its shoes on. 00:14:17.330 --> 00:14:20.309 Empathy is what makes a great responder. Love. 00:14:20.990 --> 00:14:23.909 And the opposite of evil is love. How do we fight 00:14:23.909 --> 00:14:26.769 evil? With love. Love for our children, love 00:14:26.769 --> 00:14:28.889 for our family, love for our God, love for our 00:14:28.889 --> 00:14:31.460 nation, love for our fellow man. That's why we're 00:14:31.460 --> 00:14:33.740 in this fight right now. And we've got to understand 00:14:33.740 --> 00:14:36.279 that. So I tell people, all I can tell you is 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:41.139 why I stay in the fight. I'm 68 years old. Last 00:14:41.139 --> 00:14:45.860 year, I was 67 when my 66 -year -old wife sent 00:14:45.860 --> 00:14:48.419 me off to Ukraine for summer vacation in the 00:14:48.419 --> 00:14:52.139 war zone. Has she got a man on the side? Was 00:14:52.139 --> 00:14:55.500 there an ulterior motive? Maybe so, you know. 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:01.539 All right, I've got to tell you a joke. about 00:15:01.539 --> 00:15:04.519 the man on the side type thing, right? So in 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:07.600 the, and I'm so glad we got a couple hours here. 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:10.100 We can take a minute. I've never put this on 00:15:10.100 --> 00:15:13.200 before, but it so ties in. It was in the, it 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.620 was before 9 -11, the late 90s. And I was part 00:15:16.620 --> 00:15:19.259 of what was called Trexpo. And there's a big 00:15:19.259 --> 00:15:22.419 presentation outside of Washington, D .C. every 00:15:22.419 --> 00:15:25.460 year and military and law enforcement. And they've 00:15:25.460 --> 00:15:27.340 gone away since, but they were really doing a 00:15:27.340 --> 00:15:28.860 great job. And they brought me out there almost 00:15:28.860 --> 00:15:33.759 every year. And we had a World War II 82nd Airborne 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:37.059 Division veteran who came every year. And he 00:15:37.059 --> 00:15:39.600 always had a girlfriend with him. He called him 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:41.320 his lady friend. He always had a lady friend 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:45.299 with him every year, another lady. And he must 00:15:45.299 --> 00:15:47.940 have been in like his late 70s, early 80s back 00:15:47.940 --> 00:15:51.820 then. He's probably long gone now. And these 00:15:51.820 --> 00:15:54.700 ladies with him were maybe, you know, nice looking 00:15:54.700 --> 00:15:58.450 ladies. the 60s, you know. A lot of you say, 00:15:58.549 --> 00:16:00.509 how can a lady in the 60s be good looking? Well, 00:16:00.509 --> 00:16:02.909 when you get up here, your dynamics change, your 00:16:02.909 --> 00:16:05.889 perspective change a little bit. But he sat down 00:16:05.889 --> 00:16:07.850 with us one time over a bunch of beers, we were 00:16:07.850 --> 00:16:11.870 talking. He said, boys, he said, I remember when 00:16:11.870 --> 00:16:14.509 the first automobile drove through my little 00:16:14.509 --> 00:16:17.809 town. He said, I remember when the first airplane 00:16:17.809 --> 00:16:21.789 flew overhead, one of the barnstormers. We all 00:16:21.789 --> 00:16:23.690 ran out of school, little one -room schoolhouse, 00:16:23.750 --> 00:16:26.509 we all ran out and watched that that plane fly 00:16:26.509 --> 00:16:29.809 overhead and defy gravity. He said, then World 00:16:29.809 --> 00:16:32.470 War II began. I jumped into Sicily and Normandy 00:16:32.470 --> 00:16:39.429 and Holland. He said, I've seen moon landings 00:16:39.429 --> 00:16:43.750 and heart transplants and technology, little 00:16:43.750 --> 00:16:47.750 computers and these crazy phones. He said, what 00:16:47.750 --> 00:16:50.570 I'm here to tell you, boys, the single greatest 00:16:50.570 --> 00:16:54.409 technological medical innovation of my lifetime. 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.879 The single greatest medical breakthrough I've 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:07.940 ever seen is a Viagra. So when you talk about 00:17:07.940 --> 00:17:13.740 the man on the side there, but it's been a good 00:17:13.740 --> 00:17:16.660 ride. So why did I stay in the fight? Waiting 00:17:16.660 --> 00:17:21.200 her home for me is my bride of 49 years. This 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:23.880 July will be 50 years. My high school sweetheart. 00:17:24.889 --> 00:17:28.730 Truly, truly, she was 15. I was 17 when I proposed 00:17:28.730 --> 00:17:34.269 to her. Well, we are from Arkansas. Then two 00:17:34.269 --> 00:17:37.509 years later, she married a crazy Army paratrooper, 00:17:37.589 --> 00:17:41.869 and she'd been with me 49 years. I love her more 00:17:41.869 --> 00:17:44.470 than life itself. But I'm on the road a couple 00:17:44.470 --> 00:17:47.769 hundred days a year. I get home one, two, three 00:17:47.769 --> 00:17:49.809 nights a week, conical visit, clean underwear. 00:17:50.329 --> 00:17:55.029 I'm back on the road. Why would I leave her? 00:17:56.049 --> 00:17:58.329 Well, see, the only people more important than 00:17:58.329 --> 00:18:02.309 her are my children, my grandchildren. I've got 00:18:02.309 --> 00:18:05.670 a grandson in Kuwait right now in the army. And 00:18:05.670 --> 00:18:11.190 we believe if we love our children, if we love 00:18:11.190 --> 00:18:13.509 our grandchildren, if we love our nation, if 00:18:13.509 --> 00:18:17.609 we love our God, if we love our fellow man, we 00:18:17.609 --> 00:18:21.069 will give 100%. That's what love means. Love 00:18:21.069 --> 00:18:23.730 means the worse it gets, harder you fight. That's 00:18:23.730 --> 00:18:25.910 my audience. Any country western fans out there, 00:18:26.009 --> 00:18:27.690 you know, maybe you remember one of the, maybe 00:18:27.690 --> 00:18:30.430 one of the 10 saddest country west songs ever 00:18:30.430 --> 00:18:33.549 written. Kenny Rogers. He picked a fine time 00:18:33.549 --> 00:18:36.089 to leave me, Lucille. He picked a fine time to 00:18:36.089 --> 00:18:38.650 leave me, Lucille. Four hungry children and a 00:18:38.650 --> 00:18:41.410 crop in the field. I've had some bad times through 00:18:41.410 --> 00:18:43.970 some sad times. This time the hurting won't heal. 00:18:44.430 --> 00:18:47.450 He picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille. That 00:18:47.450 --> 00:18:50.529 song rips your heart out. The idea of a mother 00:18:50.529 --> 00:18:55.089 abandoning four hungry children. And love means 00:18:55.089 --> 00:18:58.910 the worst it gets. How do we fight? Honor those 00:18:58.910 --> 00:19:01.549 who moved on to greener pastures. Honor those 00:19:01.549 --> 00:19:05.329 who served and moved on. But most of all, honor 00:19:05.329 --> 00:19:08.690 those who stayed in the fight in these tragic, 00:19:08.809 --> 00:19:14.190 tragic, dark, and desperate times. The violence 00:19:14.190 --> 00:19:16.869 of the Old West is a stinking Hollywood myth. 00:19:17.579 --> 00:19:19.759 The gunfight of the OK crowd wouldn't make the 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.819 state news today. In our 250 -year -long war 00:19:23.819 --> 00:19:25.839 against our Native American brothers and sisters, 00:19:25.980 --> 00:19:28.960 we were violent. That was war. But the day -to 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:30.900 -day level of violence has never been remotely 00:19:30.900 --> 00:19:34.839 like what's happening today. And so those who 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:38.339 are serving deserve great honor. And I tell people, 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:40.440 there was another tragic, terrible time in our 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:46.759 history. It was the winter of 1776. George Washington's 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:51.880 army was a volunteer army. And when the winter 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:56.980 of 1776 came on, they just melted. Many of them 00:19:56.980 --> 00:20:01.220 just went home. And the ones who stayed in Valley 00:20:01.220 --> 00:20:04.680 Forge had bloody footprints in the snow when 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.900 Valley Forge was real. And Thomas Paine wrote 00:20:08.900 --> 00:20:15.890 these words in late 1776. He said, He said that 00:20:15.890 --> 00:20:22.190 those who serve the nation, he said, we're not 00:20:22.190 --> 00:20:27.569 sunshine soldiers or summer soldiers or sunshine 00:20:27.569 --> 00:20:33.029 patriots. He said, those who serve their nation 00:20:33.029 --> 00:20:36.950 in this dark hour deserve the love of all men 00:20:36.950 --> 00:20:40.970 and women. And he said, we have this consolation. 00:20:41.150 --> 00:20:43.920 Here's the payoff. Got it? The big payoff. The 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:47.079 more difficult the battle, the more the glory. 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:49.880 And those who are out there fighting this desperate 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:53.059 battle, they deserve that honor, that glory. 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:55.420 And so believe in who you are, believe in what 00:20:55.420 --> 00:20:58.480 you do. It's a crazy time, but it's the worst 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:01.079 of times, it's the best of times. Because progress 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:04.359 is going leaps and bounds. Just like medical 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:09.099 progress, wellness progress has taken off. And 00:21:09.099 --> 00:21:12.619 it'll tie up with that. I was just at, just two 00:21:12.619 --> 00:21:17.920 days ago, at the FOP, the largest police organization, 00:21:18.259 --> 00:21:23.480 the worker bees down there, the largest union 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:26.559 or police organization. I was at their first 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:31.079 wellness conference. 300 people there in charge 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:34.980 of wellness across America. And I told them, 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:39.259 guys, wellness is not going away. I said, it's 00:21:39.259 --> 00:21:42.380 not like, you know, DEI, not making some political 00:21:42.380 --> 00:21:45.400 statement. But the whole DEI thing is like some 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:51.180 political football. And, you know, it's driven 00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:56.220 by beliefs and values. But wellness is like tourniquets, 00:21:56.339 --> 00:21:59.279 right? Tourniquets are not going away. You know, 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:01.920 it may get better. It may do different. But, 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:05.200 you know, we got our SWAT tier, whatever you 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.099 got. We got our quick plan. We're ready to rock 00:22:07.099 --> 00:22:10.799 and roll. So one of the cops there told me, he 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.559 said, he said, I got a lieutenant who hates wellness. 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.019 He doesn't believe in it. And so the cop bought 00:22:18.019 --> 00:22:23.019 a book and said, I'm going to give this my lieutenant, 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.299 sign it for me. I said, that's good, but I want 00:22:25.299 --> 00:22:28.400 to give you this one. This one's on me. Now I'll 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:31.059 sign it for your LT. This book is Marine Corps 00:22:31.059 --> 00:22:34.000 Commandant's required reading list, translated 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.559 into... in the five languages, Ukraine Book of 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:39.359 the Year Award in the middle of a terrible war. 00:22:39.700 --> 00:22:42.119 I will sign this book. And I signed his name. 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:46.180 And I said, this is wellness. It's not going 00:22:46.180 --> 00:22:50.539 away. It's not some woke goofiness. It's solid, 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.160 desperate. It's the worst of times, the best 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.880 of times. Because the things we have learned 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:59.980 about wellness, the things we have done to sustain 00:22:59.980 --> 00:23:01.900 ourselves in these dark and desperate times. 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:05.019 We'll set a standard and a foundation that will 00:23:05.019 --> 00:23:08.619 never go away. It's really interesting. We spoke 00:23:08.619 --> 00:23:11.599 about the advances in technology before. And 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:14.000 you think about not only trauma medicine and 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.500 tourniquets, but also body armor and all these 00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:19.460 other technologies that are saving lives, especially 00:23:19.460 --> 00:23:22.920 in the law enforcement side, where the data is 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.259 also incredibly skewed. And I'm sure you've become 00:23:25.259 --> 00:23:28.789 aware of this. You can serve 10, 20, 30 years 00:23:28.789 --> 00:23:31.289 as a police officer or a firefighter. The day 00:23:31.289 --> 00:23:33.950 you retire, the day you quit, the day you get 00:23:33.950 --> 00:23:36.509 fired, whatever it is, you cease to become a 00:23:36.509 --> 00:23:39.349 statistic. So you've got this population that 00:23:39.349 --> 00:23:41.730 are giving everything, their heart and their 00:23:41.730 --> 00:23:45.609 soul for the majority of their healthy life. 00:23:46.170 --> 00:23:49.029 And it's obviously in your 50s, 60s, 70s where 00:23:49.029 --> 00:23:52.230 disease is most likely going to manifest. And 00:23:52.230 --> 00:23:54.430 then you add in the guilt and shame around suicide 00:23:54.430 --> 00:23:57.740 and especially overdose. The supposed statistics 00:23:57.740 --> 00:24:00.740 on our cancers and suicides and some of these 00:24:00.740 --> 00:24:04.619 other things are an absolute tip of the iceberg 00:24:04.619 --> 00:24:07.460 that's actually what's behind the curtain. Yeah. 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:10.940 Yeah, these are bad times. But you know what? 00:24:11.019 --> 00:24:14.680 I call it the sheepdog. I got the U .S. government 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:16.819 trademark for that term. Anybody want to use 00:24:16.819 --> 00:24:19.259 the word sheepdog in their stuff, just send me 00:24:19.259 --> 00:24:21.859 a letter. I'll get you a letter back, suitable 00:24:21.859 --> 00:24:24.079 for framing, giving you authority to use the 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:27.630 term sheepdog. But, you know, when the sheepdog 00:24:27.630 --> 00:24:31.390 is no longer in the meadow, got a little slow, 00:24:31.569 --> 00:24:34.750 got a little gray in the muzzle, they're still 00:24:34.750 --> 00:24:37.069 a sheepdog. And, you know, one of the things 00:24:37.069 --> 00:24:41.950 I like, you know, we get an outfit called Hero 00:24:41.950 --> 00:24:46.130 911. And I'm a huge fan. I've been for 15 years. 00:24:46.309 --> 00:24:49.029 And it's really getting along. What it is, is 00:24:49.029 --> 00:24:54.500 an app. And a cop. on -duty, off -duty, reserve, 00:24:54.660 --> 00:24:58.059 retired. They download the Hero 911 app. Now, 00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:01.799 millions of apps on the website, only one limited 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.059 just to law enforcement. One of the very few 00:25:04.059 --> 00:25:07.759 apps authorized to be used on a federally issued 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.119 phone, the Hero 911. I got the program at my 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:13.599 grandkid's school in two different states. Now, 00:25:13.619 --> 00:25:16.299 the teacher has an app, and they hit the panic 00:25:16.299 --> 00:25:19.640 button, and it goes straight to the cop. There's 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.609 no dispatch. There's no... You know, I mean, 00:25:22.650 --> 00:25:26.069 boom. And I'm talking the retired guy across 00:25:26.069 --> 00:25:29.109 the street. If he's authorized by Leosa to carry 00:25:29.109 --> 00:25:30.710 a gun. See, that's a great thing with Leosa. 00:25:31.630 --> 00:25:34.450 We've said you're a cop and you're retired, but 00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:38.650 you are still authorized to carry the life -saving 00:25:38.650 --> 00:25:41.450 tools of your profession. You know, I got that. 00:25:41.609 --> 00:25:44.210 I got all this stuff up on the wall, but they're 00:25:44.210 --> 00:25:47.210 all gifts. And I got to think about the giving 00:25:47.210 --> 00:25:50.980 of a weapon. And we got it on the website. It 00:25:50.980 --> 00:25:57.660 implies your confidence in the rightful behavior 00:25:57.660 --> 00:26:01.980 of the recipient. It implies your desire for 00:26:01.980 --> 00:26:04.680 their well -being. It implies your desire to 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.740 make the world a better place by putting this 00:26:07.740 --> 00:26:11.259 tool in the hands of a competent person. But 00:26:11.259 --> 00:26:15.200 in the end, remember, you are the weapon. Everything 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:20.079 else is just a tool. Our cops are allowed to 00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:23.480 carry their tools off duty. They didn't stop 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:26.079 being a sheepdog. And now here's the thing. Hero 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.839 911, it's in over a thousand locations and not 00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:33.420 just colleges. And the Hero 911 program, the 00:26:33.420 --> 00:26:36.660 teacher hits the schoolguard .com, teacher hits 00:26:36.660 --> 00:26:38.319 it, boom, goes right to the cop. We had a case 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.900 in Indiana, cop was there 30 seconds flat. They 00:26:41.900 --> 00:26:43.380 just happened to be driving down the street, 00:26:43.460 --> 00:26:45.700 screeched a halt, running the door, 30 seconds 00:26:45.700 --> 00:26:49.250 flat. Very often. The various kids and would 00:26:49.250 --> 00:26:52.210 -be perps said, how'd you get here so fast? And 00:26:52.210 --> 00:26:54.470 again, the off -duty guy, he's going to be there 00:26:54.470 --> 00:26:57.109 anyway. It's the one that gets there in the first 00:26:57.109 --> 00:26:59.390 30 seconds of matter. It's what this does, the 00:26:59.390 --> 00:27:02.349 receiver, right? The receiver. And what's really 00:27:02.349 --> 00:27:05.650 cool about the Hero 911 program is they have 00:27:05.650 --> 00:27:09.490 just expanded the fire and EMS. Because we want 00:27:09.490 --> 00:27:11.450 you there with the tourniquet. We want you to 00:27:11.450 --> 00:27:14.150 slap that tourniquet and pack that wound and 00:27:14.150 --> 00:27:15.890 have those resources you carry with them. You 00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:18.660 are the sheepdog too. And you are responding, 00:27:18.779 --> 00:27:21.779 and you are there when we need you. If my grandchild 00:27:21.779 --> 00:27:24.839 is sitting there bleeding out, I want that sheepdog 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.240 to slap on the tourniquet and pack that wound 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.960 right stinking now. And 30 seconds later, that 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.480 kid is dead. Many of us saw the video of the 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:38.079 Nashville Covenant School massacre. They're not 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.640 shootings. Cops do shootings. Criminals do massacres 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.579 and murders. And we saw the cops going like thunder 00:27:44.579 --> 00:27:48.109 and shoot the perp. But that was like 12 minutes 00:27:48.109 --> 00:27:51.990 later. It took 12 minutes for God to win that 00:27:51.990 --> 00:27:55.069 war. God bless him. But we needed something there 00:27:55.069 --> 00:27:58.170 in the first 30 seconds. And so that's that garden 00:27:58.170 --> 00:28:00.289 I want. But we also need somebody to slap on 00:28:00.289 --> 00:28:02.289 a tourniquet, then to pack that wound and do 00:28:02.289 --> 00:28:05.549 all those other things. And so this whole dynamic 00:28:05.549 --> 00:28:09.549 of being the sheepdog, even after you retire, 00:28:09.769 --> 00:28:12.349 carrying the life -saving tools of your profession 00:28:12.349 --> 00:28:15.430 with you, wherever you go, whatever you do. Does 00:28:15.430 --> 00:28:17.730 that make sense the way we've expanded the envelope 00:28:17.730 --> 00:28:20.589 now? Oh, absolutely. I mean, literally, I have 00:28:20.589 --> 00:28:24.490 a gun. I have a kind of go bag that has tourniquets 00:28:24.490 --> 00:28:28.589 and trauma kits and even a lockout kit. So non 00:28:28.589 --> 00:28:30.470 -emergent, you know, I can actually help people 00:28:30.470 --> 00:28:32.049 get back in their car, you know, like we used 00:28:32.049 --> 00:28:34.490 to do in the fire service. So that all makes 00:28:34.490 --> 00:28:36.789 perfect sense. I'm glad that we're on the school 00:28:36.789 --> 00:28:38.829 safety conversation. I don't know if you remember 00:28:38.829 --> 00:28:42.369 the last time we recorded, I had to actually 00:28:42.369 --> 00:28:45.259 say. Can we reschedule? Because we literally 00:28:45.259 --> 00:28:47.940 had a code red in my son's school. It ended up 00:28:47.940 --> 00:28:49.960 being the actual shooting was a neighboring high 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.019 school, Forest High. And I think that one was 00:28:53.019 --> 00:28:55.900 a rare occasion of a cry for help. The kid fired 00:28:55.900 --> 00:28:59.079 one time kind of the floor and then lay down 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.900 his weapon. But after an incredibly courageous 00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:04.700 teacher kind of talked him down and then the 00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:08.259 SRO that ran directly towards the gunfire. So 00:29:08.259 --> 00:29:12.089 between those incredible people. It was stopped. 00:29:12.490 --> 00:29:14.329 No one was actually hurt. One kid got hit in 00:29:14.329 --> 00:29:16.190 the ankle, I think, from a ricochet. So they 00:29:16.190 --> 00:29:19.029 were hurt. But as far as the massacre that we've 00:29:19.029 --> 00:29:22.309 seen in other schools, conversely, I think about 00:29:22.309 --> 00:29:24.650 four or five days ago now was the seven -year 00:29:24.650 --> 00:29:27.309 anniversary of Parkland, which is the other side 00:29:27.309 --> 00:29:30.150 of the spectrum. And I've got a firefighter friend. 00:29:30.210 --> 00:29:32.930 His daughter went to Parkland. He responded to 00:29:32.930 --> 00:29:34.910 Parkland. Her boyfriend was one of the ones that 00:29:34.910 --> 00:29:38.250 was killed. And so, you know, I mean, you hear 00:29:38.250 --> 00:29:41.869 about what went right, what went wrong. Um, talk 00:29:41.869 --> 00:29:45.269 to me about your perception of that whole conversation. 00:29:45.329 --> 00:29:49.210 And if you have any specific, um, lens on Uvalde, 00:29:49.289 --> 00:29:52.809 because I waited and listened and try to wait 00:29:52.809 --> 00:29:54.549 for that kind of middle of the road voice to 00:29:54.549 --> 00:29:57.069 come through. And when it did, it appears that 00:29:57.069 --> 00:30:00.289 yes, there was an absolute, you know, cowardice 00:30:00.289 --> 00:30:02.710 obviously in the leadership that, that went down. 00:30:03.289 --> 00:30:05.829 Not saying that everyone on the ground was, but 00:30:05.829 --> 00:30:08.589 that allowed an environment where people didn't 00:30:08.589 --> 00:30:10.650 go towards the gunfire on that particular day. 00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:14.410 You know, in my presentations, you know, I use 00:30:14.410 --> 00:30:16.650 a document camera. It's not death by PowerPoint. 00:30:16.769 --> 00:30:19.210 You know, I put a document under there and Elmo, 00:30:19.430 --> 00:30:22.089 the little Elmo does his thing. And I slapped 00:30:22.089 --> 00:30:25.150 down there a photograph, an article side by side 00:30:25.150 --> 00:30:29.549 in Prison Orange is the police chief from Uvalde, 00:30:29.710 --> 00:30:34.170 the SRO from Uvalde. Standing in prison orange 00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:36.049 with this deer -in -the -headlight look on their 00:30:36.049 --> 00:30:41.809 face. They've faced over a dozen felonies for 00:30:41.809 --> 00:30:44.289 not going in and for stopping people from going 00:30:44.289 --> 00:30:49.269 in. I also show the prison orange picture of 00:30:49.269 --> 00:30:54.150 the SRO at Parkland who didn't go in. And he 00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:59.009 was acquitted. And I think the chief and Uvalde 00:30:59.009 --> 00:31:02.700 in that SRO are probably going to go down. because 00:31:02.700 --> 00:31:06.140 they didn't go in. But see, the chief was like 00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:09.960 this roly -poly little guy. He was just a friendly 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:12.500 little guy. He'd just been elected to the city 00:31:12.500 --> 00:31:15.740 council. But everybody says, no, we don't want 00:31:15.740 --> 00:31:18.380 warriors. Don't use that evil word, warriors. 00:31:18.619 --> 00:31:21.599 You know, we can't use that word on cops. Oh, 00:31:21.660 --> 00:31:23.460 we talk about frontline warriors. We talk about 00:31:23.460 --> 00:31:26.299 medical warriors. We talk about the warrior basketball 00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:30.339 team. But you can't call cops warriors. And so 00:31:30.339 --> 00:31:31.559 what do we call them? Oh, they're guardians. 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.240 Yeah, they were guardians all right. They sat 00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.180 there and guarded the school while children were 00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:40.079 slaughtered. But they got to understand, they 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.640 were told, we don't need warriors. We don't want 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.359 warriors. Like anything, there's danger on both 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.799 sides. You got to stay away from the extremes, 00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:50.799 but we need our warriors. We need those who will 00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.980 go in and take a bullet for a kid. We need everybody 00:31:53.980 --> 00:31:56.900 who wears a uniform to know that your job is 00:31:56.900 --> 00:32:00.450 to go take a bullet for a kid. And never lose 00:32:00.450 --> 00:32:03.849 track of that. And titles are important. And 00:32:03.849 --> 00:32:07.289 guardians don't do that. Warriors do. And so 00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:09.589 we've got the external threat, the terrorist 00:32:09.589 --> 00:32:11.450 threat to our schools. We've got the war on terror. 00:32:11.789 --> 00:32:14.250 If you're in a war, you're a warrior. So again, 00:32:14.569 --> 00:32:15.769 we've got to have a balance in there. We've got 00:32:15.769 --> 00:32:18.309 to draw from both sides of that equation. But 00:32:18.309 --> 00:32:22.230 the dynamics on Uvalde were really, really well 00:32:22.230 --> 00:32:26.130 covered by the state of Texas. And what they 00:32:26.130 --> 00:32:29.289 did was they passed a law. And they mandated 00:32:29.289 --> 00:32:34.190 three things. Number one, every door in every 00:32:34.190 --> 00:32:36.869 school will be shut and locked all the time. 00:32:36.950 --> 00:32:39.269 Now, how much did that cost? You follow the exterior 00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:41.849 door unlocked. There was like six months prior, 00:32:41.970 --> 00:32:44.650 there had been a security check. And the guy 00:32:44.650 --> 00:32:46.089 on the security check says, I don't know why 00:32:46.089 --> 00:32:48.670 we do these checks. Every year, the north and 00:32:48.670 --> 00:32:51.430 south doors were unlocked. I don't know why I 00:32:51.430 --> 00:32:54.809 spend time even doing this. So the door's unlocked. 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:58.000 And then an interior door that couldn't be locked. 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.559 They had a work order in on the door, supposedly 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.900 from a couple of sources. So we had exterior 00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:06.859 door unlocked, interior door unlocked. If either 00:33:06.859 --> 00:33:09.140 of those two doors had been locked, it could 00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:11.279 have been a totally different situation. I mean, 00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.160 this is insane. How much money it costs to lock 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.180 the freaking doors. But here's the issue. And 00:33:17.180 --> 00:33:19.940 you got to wrap your mind around this. Our enemy 00:33:19.940 --> 00:33:24.119 is denial. At half the cost, a modern school 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.839 building goes in a fire code. The most expensive 00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.680 thing in any modern school or modern building 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.140 is a fire sprinkler system under pressure for 00:33:34.140 --> 00:33:38.240 the lifetime of the building. Half the cost of 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.720 the building goes in a fire code, but we won't 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:42.559 do a stinking thing to prepare for violence. 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.900 Now, if you told my mom to buckle up those five 00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:49.599 kids, she said it wasn't possible. It became 00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.369 the law, boom, we did it. Make it the law. I've 00:33:52.369 --> 00:33:54.890 been telling people for 25 years, make them lock 00:33:54.890 --> 00:33:56.869 the door of the safe for a day. Make it the law 00:33:56.869 --> 00:33:59.829 of the safe from now on. But the reason why is 00:33:59.829 --> 00:34:01.789 the fire code. Oh, it's fire code. Can't block 00:34:01.789 --> 00:34:03.829 the fire. Boom. Make it the law and they'll do 00:34:03.829 --> 00:34:07.049 it. Why did it take 25 years of school massacres 00:34:07.049 --> 00:34:09.230 before somebody passed the law and said, keep 00:34:09.230 --> 00:34:11.630 the doors locked? And it's the law and we'll 00:34:11.630 --> 00:34:14.309 do it. Make it the law and we'll do it. So, number 00:34:14.309 --> 00:34:17.469 one, keep the doors locked. Number two, laminate 00:34:17.469 --> 00:34:22.369 film on the glass. Specifically, any glass on 00:34:22.369 --> 00:34:24.690 the door beside the door, interior door, exterior 00:34:24.690 --> 00:34:27.250 door. If I could shoot out the glass, reach in 00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:29.349 and open the door, put that laminate film on 00:34:29.349 --> 00:34:35.010 it. The Sandy Hook school massacre. Two classrooms 00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:37.969 of first graders slaughtered. Your kids are safe. 00:34:38.090 --> 00:34:40.010 We buzz people in. We keep the door locked. It 00:34:40.010 --> 00:34:42.730 was glass. He shot out the glass. He opened the 00:34:42.730 --> 00:34:46.070 door and walked in and murdered 24 people. A 00:34:46.070 --> 00:34:47.829 couple hundred bucks of laminate film on the 00:34:47.829 --> 00:34:50.570 front door. They don't be alive today. And as 00:34:50.570 --> 00:34:53.309 we put the laminated film in, every now and then 00:34:53.309 --> 00:34:56.550 the fire guys say, oh, you can't do that. And 00:34:56.550 --> 00:34:58.829 now the city of Texas said, shove that back where 00:34:58.829 --> 00:35:00.769 it came from, dude, because your kid's in this 00:35:00.769 --> 00:35:03.110 school too. And with the fire code got in the 00:35:03.110 --> 00:35:06.030 way, and not a single kid has been killed by 00:35:06.030 --> 00:35:11.130 school fire since the 1950s. Oh, three quarters 00:35:11.130 --> 00:35:12.989 of a century, almost three quarters of a century 00:35:12.989 --> 00:35:15.570 since any kid was killed by school fire. How 00:35:15.570 --> 00:35:17.869 many killed by school violence? Hundreds and 00:35:17.869 --> 00:35:20.349 hundreds and hundreds. So three things. Keep 00:35:20.349 --> 00:35:22.050 the stinking doors locked. Make it the law. It'll 00:35:22.050 --> 00:35:24.190 get done. Put the laminate film on the glass. 00:35:24.769 --> 00:35:28.530 Now, across Texas, a major corporation, we got 00:35:28.530 --> 00:35:30.329 this hurricane glass. See, and we'll put this 00:35:30.329 --> 00:35:34.909 hurricane glass on for you. It's not ballistic 00:35:34.909 --> 00:35:40.210 glass. The best stuff, the hurricane glass, I 00:35:40.210 --> 00:35:43.250 do a demo. I work with a corporation, a safe 00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:47.840 haven defense. They do a demo. They say, okay, 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.699 here's your 30 -mil glass or whatever it is. 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.320 They throw a rock through it. They kick it. They 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.340 reach and open it and walk through. Here's our 00:35:54.340 --> 00:35:58.380 glass. You beat it with a baseball bat. And sometimes 00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:00.400 some bullets hit stop. Some doesn't. It doesn't 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.119 matter. What you can't do is you can't break 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.780 the glass or reach in and open the door. After 00:36:04.780 --> 00:36:07.019 a couple hundred bucks, a lemonade film at the 00:36:07.019 --> 00:36:09.639 front door, a candy hook, those kids don't realize 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.699 that it's our problem. It's not money. It's denial. 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:14.260 And here's the thing. Coming back to denial. 00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:17.280 We could accept the fact that a fire would happen, 00:36:17.420 --> 00:36:23.940 a tornado, hurricane. But the idea that somebody 00:36:23.940 --> 00:36:27.179 is so evil that they will walk in that school 00:36:27.179 --> 00:36:30.440 and slaughter our children is just too hard. 00:36:30.900 --> 00:36:34.920 Their mind tilts. They go into denial mode. You've 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.840 got to make it the law or they'll slip back into 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.920 denial. And this is the heart of the matter in 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.639 so many ways. Interpersonal human aggression, 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:46.139 violent crime. is the single most psychologically 00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:50.119 toxic, corrosive thing any human being will ever 00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.820 face. Now, don't copy pity party here. The vast, 00:36:52.860 --> 00:36:54.920 vast majority do not commit suicide. The vast, 00:36:55.019 --> 00:36:57.699 vast majority do not get PTSD. They have post 00:36:57.699 --> 00:37:00.300 -traumatic growth. But of all the things any 00:37:00.300 --> 00:37:04.239 human being could ever face is violent interaction, 00:37:04.659 --> 00:37:08.260 violent crime. The DSM, the Bible of psychiatry 00:37:08.260 --> 00:37:10.960 and psychology is talking about PTSD. Whenever 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.489 the cause of your trauma is human in nature, 00:37:14.650 --> 00:37:17.989 the degree of trauma is usually more severe and 00:37:17.989 --> 00:37:19.829 long -lasting. So you tell me, honestly, you 00:37:19.829 --> 00:37:21.730 tell me, is there a difference between these 00:37:21.730 --> 00:37:25.690 two scenarios? Scenario one, a tornado hits a 00:37:25.690 --> 00:37:27.889 house while you're gone and puts your family 00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:29.110 in the hospital. How do you feel about that? 00:37:29.269 --> 00:37:33.829 Oh, thank God they're alive. Scenario two, criminals 00:37:33.829 --> 00:37:36.730 break into the house while you're gone and beat 00:37:36.730 --> 00:37:38.789 your family in a hospital stay. How do you feel? 00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:42.420 All the difference in the world. One's a random 00:37:42.420 --> 00:37:44.860 act of nature. The other's an attentional and 00:37:44.860 --> 00:37:49.059 malignant act. At 9 -11, the terrorists murdered 00:37:49.059 --> 00:37:51.960 3 ,000 people. The stock market crashed. Our 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.519 way of life changed. We invaded two nations. 00:37:54.099 --> 00:37:58.239 That same year, 30 ,000 people died in traffic 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.980 accidents. Didn't change nothing. They were accidents. 00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.530 Do you understand? I want you to understand that 00:38:06.530 --> 00:38:08.769 you think the firefighter prepares for the fire, 00:38:08.869 --> 00:38:11.050 the diver prepares for the sea, the pilot prepares 00:38:11.050 --> 00:38:14.869 for the sky, and much more so that we need to 00:38:14.869 --> 00:38:18.690 prepare for that toxic realm called combat. And 00:38:18.690 --> 00:38:21.429 all of us, all first responders and every other 00:38:21.429 --> 00:38:23.809 sheepdog is going to go towards a bad man. Those 00:38:23.809 --> 00:38:25.989 teachers, and I'll give you multiple examples 00:38:25.989 --> 00:38:28.289 of teachers that tackled the bad guy, talked 00:38:28.289 --> 00:38:31.090 him down. Their sheepdogs are going to put their 00:38:31.090 --> 00:38:33.070 life on the line, and all of them need to understand. 00:38:34.189 --> 00:38:37.030 that this can be a terribly toxic and corrosive 00:38:37.030 --> 00:38:40.690 situation. And because of that, it's all the 00:38:40.690 --> 00:38:43.010 more important that we prepare for it. If you're 00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:45.230 in denial, well, we don't need warriors. We need 00:38:45.230 --> 00:38:48.510 guardianship. That police chief and that SRO 00:38:48.510 --> 00:38:51.809 in prison, Orange, they were in denial. Nobody 00:38:51.809 --> 00:38:53.809 ever told them, your job is to go take a bullet 00:38:53.809 --> 00:38:56.110 for a kid. No, no, no, I'm the guardianship. 00:38:56.510 --> 00:38:59.070 This gun is really just kind of a symbol of my 00:38:59.070 --> 00:39:01.230 authority. See, I don't have to use it. This 00:39:01.230 --> 00:39:04.789 is not what we need. And here you are, you've 00:39:04.789 --> 00:39:07.190 got your firefighting tools, you also have a 00:39:07.190 --> 00:39:11.170 gun. In the state of Kansas, every first responder 00:39:11.170 --> 00:39:13.309 vehicle, the people on every first responder 00:39:13.309 --> 00:39:16.690 vehicle are allowed to carry a gun. You can carry 00:39:16.690 --> 00:39:18.769 a gun off duty, carry a gun on duty. Why should 00:39:18.769 --> 00:39:23.230 the rules change? So in the state of Utah, Utah 00:39:23.230 --> 00:39:28.510 has never had a single homicide in the school. 00:39:30.300 --> 00:39:32.420 They had a double homicide in the parking lot 00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:34.659 one time after school hours. They had a suicide 00:39:34.659 --> 00:39:39.000 one time. But there's not been a single homicide. 00:39:39.300 --> 00:39:42.239 Nobody can keep track of all the solo homicides, 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.719 but they say it hasn't happened, and certainly 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:48.780 no multiple homicides. But in Utah, the teachers 00:39:48.780 --> 00:39:52.739 are allowed to carry on the job. Why would the 00:39:52.739 --> 00:39:56.179 law change? Why does the law change? I carry 00:39:56.179 --> 00:39:58.199 a gun anywhere and everywhere. I walk into school, 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.349 I can't do it anymore. Why should the law change? 00:40:00.769 --> 00:40:02.809 And Utah's been doing that for a quarter of a 00:40:02.809 --> 00:40:05.769 century with 100 % success. Dr. John Lott is 00:40:05.769 --> 00:40:09.429 a Harvard economist. He had an article just recently. 00:40:09.550 --> 00:40:13.530 He says, now, 80 % of all the schools in all 00:40:13.530 --> 00:40:16.869 the counties in Ohio have armed educators. After 00:40:16.869 --> 00:40:19.050 the Parkland massacre, we got armed educators 00:40:19.050 --> 00:40:21.550 in every school. How much did that cost them? 00:40:21.829 --> 00:40:25.369 And John Lott says there has not been a single 00:40:25.369 --> 00:40:29.920 homicide. in a school with armed educators. Again, 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.659 some in the parking lot after hours, a suicide, 00:40:32.940 --> 00:40:37.099 but not one. And so here's what Texas did. Three 00:40:37.099 --> 00:40:40.139 things. Keep the stinking doors locked. Make 00:40:40.139 --> 00:40:43.559 it the law. Laminate film on the glass. And get 00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.139 the real stuff that'll really do the job. And 00:40:46.139 --> 00:40:48.719 number three, there will be somebody in every 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.780 school who can shoot back. And we ain't got enough 00:40:51.780 --> 00:40:55.059 cops. Where do we find those people? Boom. There's 00:40:55.059 --> 00:40:57.519 somebody in every school. And one of the great 00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:02.739 programs pioneered in Ohio, it's called FASTER, 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.019 Faculty and Staff Training Emergency Response. 00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:10.420 A reporter from the London Times came and took 00:41:10.420 --> 00:41:12.820 the training. Now, you have to be nominated by 00:41:12.820 --> 00:41:15.199 your fellow teachers. You have to be approved 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.639 by your chain, by your principals, chain of command. 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.099 And you've got to arrive with markmanship skills. 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.460 We're not going to teach you how to shoot. At 00:41:24.460 --> 00:41:26.000 the end of this one -week class, you're going 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.659 to qualify, and you've got to qualify at the 00:41:28.659 --> 00:41:31.320 minimum level for law enforcement, same level 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.440 as law enforcement. Now, hopefully, we're all 00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.500 doing better than the minimal level. We're all 00:41:35.500 --> 00:41:38.059 shooting for a lot better than that. But the 00:41:38.059 --> 00:41:39.960 reporter from the London Times took the training. 00:41:40.219 --> 00:41:43.699 He said, after having seen the people taking 00:41:43.699 --> 00:41:46.519 this training, after having seen the training, 00:41:46.780 --> 00:41:49.920 he said, I never thought I would say this. But 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.340 I now support armed educators in American schools. 00:41:52.539 --> 00:41:56.539 New York, London Times, buried on page five and 00:41:56.539 --> 00:42:00.280 never mentioned again. That the media will not 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.099 touch it. There's an answer. Arm the educators. 00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.360 Give them one or two people in every school that 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.059 ought to be carrying a gun. I trained at a major 00:42:09.059 --> 00:42:13.139 New England school district. They asked me not 00:42:13.139 --> 00:42:16.659 even to mention what state they're in. The superintendent 00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:20.670 is retired spec ops. with like half a dozen combat 00:42:20.670 --> 00:42:26.050 tours. The elementary school principal is a reserve 00:42:26.050 --> 00:42:28.730 military police officer with two combat tours, 00:42:28.909 --> 00:42:33.690 and she's also a reserve cop. Now, the superintendent 00:42:33.690 --> 00:42:37.489 said, I have the authority to authorize myself 00:42:37.489 --> 00:42:39.730 and her to carry a gun. It's just a no -brainer. 00:42:40.309 --> 00:42:42.949 But if they knew I was doing it, they would shut 00:42:42.949 --> 00:42:45.340 me down in a heartbeat. Because that's the motive. 00:42:45.539 --> 00:42:48.260 Oh, no, more guns don't make it better. We're 00:42:48.260 --> 00:42:49.320 going to take away all the guns. How does that 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:51.659 work for Mexico? All those gun laws work for 00:42:51.659 --> 00:42:54.699 Mexico. There's more involved in that. And all 00:42:54.699 --> 00:42:56.739 the media would say of Uvalde, oh, we need gun 00:42:56.739 --> 00:42:58.519 laws, we need gun laws. No, number one, keep 00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.599 the doors locked. That's the law you need. Number 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:02.340 two, put the laminate film on the grass. Number 00:43:02.340 --> 00:43:04.380 three, have somebody in every school that can 00:43:04.380 --> 00:43:07.920 shoot back. And since they basically virtually 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.420 did that in Florida, and now they've locked it 00:43:10.420 --> 00:43:12.400 in New Texas, and there has not been another 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.579 kid dead. since he made that the law. So this 00:43:15.579 --> 00:43:17.719 is not rocket science. The same thing that made 00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:19.800 us safe from fire can make us safe from violence. 00:43:20.340 --> 00:43:23.940 But they don't want to be reminded that there's 00:43:23.940 --> 00:43:25.659 somebody out there that's so evil they would 00:43:25.659 --> 00:43:27.940 come and commit this terrible crime. And that's 00:43:27.940 --> 00:43:29.599 why half the cost of middle goes to the fire 00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.880 code. But they won't keep the damn doors locked. 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:33.519 And you've got to make it the law, and they'll 00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:36.889 do it. What is your perspective? I think I asked 00:43:36.889 --> 00:43:39.230 you last night, but I mean, obviously a few years 00:43:39.230 --> 00:43:42.909 have gone by now. Your perspective on the kind 00:43:42.909 --> 00:43:46.190 of cop that is assigned as an SRO, because I've 00:43:46.190 --> 00:43:48.190 seen it with my own eyes. My son went through 00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:50.650 something horrendous and the SRO and the principal 00:43:50.650 --> 00:43:53.690 were at the bottom of that. And it was nauseating 00:43:53.690 --> 00:43:56.690 because when I kind of went down all the chains 00:43:56.690 --> 00:43:59.429 of command and showed them what happened. the 00:43:59.429 --> 00:44:01.389 school blamed the police and the police blamed 00:44:01.389 --> 00:44:04.769 the school. It was just a complete show of cowardice. 00:44:04.969 --> 00:44:07.630 But the kind of person that I've seen at some 00:44:07.630 --> 00:44:11.289 of these schools is not exactly the deterrent 00:44:11.289 --> 00:44:13.670 that I would be thinking that I would want protecting 00:44:13.670 --> 00:44:16.769 my children. So what is your perspective on that? 00:44:16.829 --> 00:44:19.250 And where have you seen it applied in a good 00:44:19.250 --> 00:44:21.510 way and where they're sending the right kind 00:44:21.510 --> 00:44:25.550 of officers there? First, understand this. Of 00:44:25.550 --> 00:44:28.599 all the multiple homicides in America, in the 00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.960 school. I don't think anybody can keep track 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.099 of all the solo homicides. But two or above of 00:44:34.099 --> 00:44:37.320 all the multiple homicides in America, only three 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:41.599 times did it happen when there was a cop in the 00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.880 building. And all three times, the minute the 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:49.199 cop got there, not another kid died. So, you 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.949 know, I know, you know, we want... You know, 00:44:51.949 --> 00:44:53.809 we want Arnold Schwarzenegger there. You know, 00:44:53.829 --> 00:44:55.469 I want him there with my grandkids. You know, 00:44:55.590 --> 00:44:58.389 we want Jared Swatdog. We want good people there. 00:44:58.469 --> 00:45:01.130 And a lot of that is happening. A lot of that's 00:45:01.130 --> 00:45:05.070 happening. But whoever it is, they seem to be 00:45:05.070 --> 00:45:08.210 doing okay. Statistically speaking, just the 00:45:08.210 --> 00:45:11.550 act of putting a cop in this court, absolutely, 00:45:11.949 --> 00:45:15.789 almost completely eliminates the probability 00:45:15.789 --> 00:45:18.699 of a multiple homicide. Now, we can do better 00:45:18.699 --> 00:45:20.539 than that. We can find a good cop. We can find 00:45:20.539 --> 00:45:22.780 somebody who's going to make that shot down that 00:45:22.780 --> 00:45:27.480 corridor and who thrives for being ready. I was 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:31.099 talking with, just in that conference, just this 00:45:31.099 --> 00:45:37.380 week, FOP, we had a police chief come up, and 00:45:37.380 --> 00:45:40.739 he said, I put my rookies in the schools first. 00:45:41.460 --> 00:45:43.480 He said, I put these kids right out of the academy. 00:45:44.059 --> 00:45:49.469 And said, This is why you exist. Protecting these 00:45:49.469 --> 00:45:53.130 children is why we're here. And your job, take 00:45:53.130 --> 00:45:55.110 a bullet for that kid. And if you don't want 00:45:55.110 --> 00:45:57.869 to do that, you're in the wrong business. Of 00:45:57.869 --> 00:45:59.309 course, nobody's ever turned them down. They 00:45:59.309 --> 00:46:02.250 accept it. I had a cop tell me one time, he's 00:46:02.250 --> 00:46:05.550 a school resource officer. He said, I worked 00:46:05.550 --> 00:46:09.610 on the bad side of our city, a night shift for 00:46:09.610 --> 00:46:13.469 six years. He said, I thought everybody in our 00:46:13.469 --> 00:46:17.550 city. were scum. He said, then they put me in 00:46:17.550 --> 00:46:21.510 the school. He said, and the kids hugged me. 00:46:22.170 --> 00:46:24.469 And they brought me cookies. And they waved at 00:46:24.469 --> 00:46:29.010 me with all their fingers. And he said, I realized 00:46:29.010 --> 00:46:33.489 this is why I do what I do. This is why I take 00:46:33.489 --> 00:46:35.110 the bad guy off the streets. That's what it's 00:46:35.110 --> 00:46:38.789 about. This is why I do what I do. You know, 00:46:38.789 --> 00:46:43.690 I was at a Boston Police Academy 20 years ago. 00:46:44.759 --> 00:46:46.699 And I turned to the Academy, and they said, how 00:46:46.699 --> 00:46:49.519 can we communicate to these guys? They've got 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.579 to be officer -friendly one time and turn into 00:46:52.579 --> 00:46:56.119 a robocop instantly. How do you? I said, you 00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:59.179 know, they had a mascot. They had a mascot, the 00:46:59.179 --> 00:47:03.139 dog. I said, there is your model. Most of us 00:47:03.139 --> 00:47:05.760 had a dog. He sits on the front porch. We'll 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.519 pull his tail and poke his ribs. He won't bite. 00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.000 But the madman shows up. He's all fur and fangs. 00:47:11.340 --> 00:47:13.989 And that's our model. The sheepdog model has 00:47:13.989 --> 00:47:16.150 just been embraced by so many people because 00:47:16.150 --> 00:47:18.769 we like dogs, we love dogs, and that's a good 00:47:18.769 --> 00:47:25.530 model to embrace. I've had several cases where 00:47:25.530 --> 00:47:28.849 cops with the SRO were 10, 20 years, they retired, 00:47:29.190 --> 00:47:32.710 and one became the mayor. Another one became 00:47:32.710 --> 00:47:36.110 the sheriff because every single person knew 00:47:36.110 --> 00:47:40.519 him. And he, you know, they had a unified school 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.480 district. They had one location and generally 00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.900 a small county in the case of the sheriff. And 00:47:44.900 --> 00:47:47.260 everybody knew him. And they all voted for him. 00:47:47.300 --> 00:47:49.119 And he had the right mindset. He had his heart 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.500 right. He had his head right. But I know that, 00:47:51.539 --> 00:47:55.380 you know, there's kind of this kind of a judgment 00:47:55.380 --> 00:47:59.219 on the cop that's overweight. But I tell you, 00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:03.710 we'll all grow old. And we'll all. grow fat. 00:48:04.230 --> 00:48:09.670 But we still beat one hell of a shot. And I tell 00:48:09.670 --> 00:48:13.170 people, I'm 68, don't feel superior because you're 00:48:13.170 --> 00:48:14.670 not overweight. There's just too many things 00:48:14.670 --> 00:48:17.670 that equation people can't control. You rolled 00:48:17.670 --> 00:48:19.550 the dice and you got good and you're not overweight, 00:48:19.690 --> 00:48:22.650 good for you. But don't feel superior. I said, 00:48:22.670 --> 00:48:24.989 you have permission to grow old and you have 00:48:24.989 --> 00:48:28.030 permission if your body is going to grow fat, 00:48:28.170 --> 00:48:32.750 but you can not fail. That's what led on target. 00:48:33.389 --> 00:48:35.190 We'll grow old, we'll grow fat, and we'll still 00:48:35.190 --> 00:48:38.090 be one hell of a shot. And I've seen case after 00:48:38.090 --> 00:48:40.789 case. I heard about a guy in Nevada. I mentioned 00:48:40.789 --> 00:48:45.989 my book on combat. An amazing guy. Multiple gunfights, 00:48:46.130 --> 00:48:49.449 held down a person and shooting over their head. 00:48:49.650 --> 00:48:52.610 I had two partners killed and a dog killed. This 00:48:52.610 --> 00:48:55.829 guy is like, the things he's done is incredible. 00:48:56.130 --> 00:49:00.369 I met him one day. He's about five foot four, 00:49:00.550 --> 00:49:04.250 a little overweight. And I thought, never judge 00:49:04.250 --> 00:49:08.429 the warrior by the package. Never judge the warrior 00:49:08.429 --> 00:49:11.510 by the package. But this is really a leadership 00:49:11.510 --> 00:49:15.210 issue. You know, in Parkland, the sheriff was 00:49:15.210 --> 00:49:19.150 an idiot. And the sheriff told his people, you 00:49:19.150 --> 00:49:21.789 know, he was this woke left -wing idiot that 00:49:21.789 --> 00:49:24.710 got elected because we don't want warriors, right? 00:49:25.010 --> 00:49:27.409 And they got what they voted for. And the sheriff 00:49:27.409 --> 00:49:31.670 in the Parkland school massacre was... was immediately 00:49:31.670 --> 00:49:35.570 out. And once again, the leadership failure in 00:49:35.570 --> 00:49:40.010 Uvalde. And when the troops fail, the leadership 00:49:40.010 --> 00:49:42.750 is responsible. And there's so many things that 00:49:42.750 --> 00:49:46.309 the leader can do to inspire, motivate, and to 00:49:46.309 --> 00:49:47.969 drive our people. And the one thing we can do 00:49:47.969 --> 00:49:52.429 is to provide a culture of marksmanship. In all 00:49:52.429 --> 00:49:57.590 my presentations, I throw up a picture of Officer 00:49:57.590 --> 00:50:02.829 Greg Stevens. With President Obama putting a 00:50:02.829 --> 00:50:05.630 medal around his neck. The highest medal that 00:50:05.630 --> 00:50:10.449 we can give outside the military. The highest 00:50:10.449 --> 00:50:13.570 medal of valor. This is the medal of honor for 00:50:13.570 --> 00:50:18.210 cops. And, you know, he's got a little extra 00:50:18.210 --> 00:50:21.650 weight there. And he's, you know, he's not as 00:50:21.650 --> 00:50:26.269 tall as I am. But I bring up everyone, when I 00:50:26.269 --> 00:50:27.789 give an account, he speaks to my presentations. 00:50:29.289 --> 00:50:35.050 And it was May of 2015. The FBI says this is 00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:37.550 the first ISIS -directed attack on American soil. 00:50:38.389 --> 00:50:40.650 These two idiots came up on the net and said, 00:50:40.690 --> 00:50:42.230 we don't want to die for our faith. What should 00:50:42.230 --> 00:50:45.030 we do? They said, go to Garland, Texas, major 00:50:45.030 --> 00:50:48.230 suburb of Dallas. Just think Dallas. Go to Dallas. 00:50:49.030 --> 00:50:52.010 Go to the Draw the Prophet Muhammad Art Festival. 00:50:52.050 --> 00:50:54.050 Now, in the eyes of Islam, to draw the prophet 00:50:54.050 --> 00:50:57.179 is a terrible crime. Go to the Draw the Prophet 00:50:57.179 --> 00:50:59.559 Muhammad Art Festival outside of Dallas, Texas, 00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:04.579 and kill them all. By May of 2015, they rolled 00:51:04.579 --> 00:51:07.820 out of the vehicle. They had rifles. They had 00:51:07.820 --> 00:51:09.960 body armor. They had the element of surprise. 00:51:10.579 --> 00:51:14.599 And a 59 -year -old traffic cop with a pistol 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.659 killed them both. One of the greatest feats of 00:51:17.659 --> 00:51:19.639 marksmanship and courage in American history. 00:51:20.099 --> 00:51:22.260 Man, I'm honored to call a friend, a co -presenter, 00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:25.539 and an invite to my presentation. Anytime. But, 00:51:25.539 --> 00:51:28.420 you know, he's not Arnold Schwarzenegger, you 00:51:28.420 --> 00:51:31.340 know. But he had marksmanship skills. Here's 00:51:31.340 --> 00:51:35.039 what he said. He said, I've been a cop for 37 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.920 years. All I wanted to do was be a traffic cop. 00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:41.380 You think, oh, he must be dumb. He couldn't make 00:51:41.380 --> 00:51:42.820 it past traffic cop. That's all he wanted to 00:51:42.820 --> 00:51:45.880 do. I love what I do. I rode a motorcycle this 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.159 summer. I drove a car around in the winter. And 00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.639 I love to be with people. And every traffic stop 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.360 is an opportunity to. to be there for people 00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:56.840 in their time of need and connect with them. 00:51:57.619 --> 00:52:00.960 We said for 37 years, every time the range was 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.519 open, ammo available, I was there. On duty, off 00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:06.340 duty, range is open, ammo is available, I was 00:52:06.340 --> 00:52:09.400 there. Oh, go in the range your own time. Oh, 00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:10.760 we go in the range your own time for it. They 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:12.039 don't even ban you. What do you wait for? Because 00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.119 I'm a Texas cop, but I live on dirt. And the 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.519 range is open and the ammo is free. You don't 00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.320 go there. There's nothing wrong with you. Grace 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:24.239 Stevens says for 37 years. I made a steady deposit 00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:28.539 in a savings account. He said, in May of 2015, 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.320 I made a major withdrawal. How's your account 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:35.059 look? Are you pissing your time away? Are you 00:52:35.059 --> 00:52:37.619 pissing your money away? Are you prepared for 00:52:37.619 --> 00:52:40.099 a moment of truth? And it's all about marketorship. 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.840 We should nurture an environment of marketorship. 00:52:43.619 --> 00:52:47.380 LAPD still has a bonus for qualifying expert. 00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:50.960 It adds up a fair chunk of change over the year. 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.139 It's been in place since the 1950s. At last I 00:52:54.139 --> 00:52:57.039 heard it's still in place to get a bonus for 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.139 qualifying expert. I tell every sheriff, every 00:52:59.139 --> 00:53:04.099 chief, every leader, I said, develop a culture 00:53:04.099 --> 00:53:06.179 of marketmanship. And there's two ways to do 00:53:06.179 --> 00:53:10.179 that. Number one, lead by example. Lead by example. 00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.239 If you had to go golfing, you need to go a golf 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:13.900 pro. And you have to teach how to do the thing. 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.440 Just get on the range. And you don't have to 00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:18.880 be the best. But don't embarrass yourself, number 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:24.800 one. But number two. Roll the next pay raise 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.940 into a markmanship bonus. And if you qualify 00:53:27.940 --> 00:53:31.159 expert, you get an extra, you know, even $50 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.039 a month adds up to a $600 check in December every 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.300 year. And that's a lot of money. Roll your next 00:53:37.300 --> 00:53:39.659 pay raise into a markmanship bonus. And there's 00:53:39.659 --> 00:53:41.960 people across the nation doing that, this culture 00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:44.260 of markmanship. You know, are you Greg Stevens 00:53:44.260 --> 00:53:48.980 or the police chief at Uvalde? Kind of similar 00:53:48.980 --> 00:53:55.090 weight and height. But one had a lifetime of 00:53:55.090 --> 00:53:57.469 preparation, a moment or two. And the other was 00:53:57.469 --> 00:54:00.829 in denial. And he'll probably go to prison. And 00:54:00.829 --> 00:54:04.190 there's probably every jury in Texas will put 00:54:04.190 --> 00:54:07.250 him in prison. And he's stunned every step of 00:54:07.250 --> 00:54:09.510 the way. But people, it's not his, in many ways, 00:54:09.650 --> 00:54:12.730 it's not his fault. He was told, we don't want 00:54:12.730 --> 00:54:18.170 warriors. I was told that during the Biden years, 00:54:18.369 --> 00:54:22.809 that federal dollars. The law enforcement training 00:54:22.809 --> 00:54:27.409 will not go to three of the major law enforcement 00:54:27.409 --> 00:54:31.269 trainers. Now, I got this secondhand. I don't 00:54:31.269 --> 00:54:33.050 have a solid confirmation, but somebody who knows 00:54:33.050 --> 00:54:37.889 and got it. He said the caliber press is out. 00:54:37.989 --> 00:54:41.269 They've been training cops for 50 years. For 00:54:41.269 --> 00:54:44.210 Science Institute, one of the greatest organizations 00:54:44.210 --> 00:54:48.230 doing scientific evidence and grossment, will 00:54:48.230 --> 00:54:50.630 not receive federal funds for law enforcement 00:54:50.630 --> 00:54:53.630 training. And it's all under the covers. We've 00:54:53.630 --> 00:54:57.489 seen it shut down at places. But now there's 00:54:57.489 --> 00:54:59.989 a new guy in charge. And it's all about balance. 00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:03.630 Find that balance between the warrior and the 00:55:03.630 --> 00:55:07.849 guardian. Be the sheepdog. Be that dog that kids 00:55:07.849 --> 00:55:10.869 hug him and love him and pull his tail and he 00:55:10.869 --> 00:55:12.789 won't bite. But the bad man comes, that dog is 00:55:12.789 --> 00:55:15.090 all fur and fangs. And we need our sheep out. 00:55:15.150 --> 00:55:17.070 We need our protectors. Does that make sense? 00:55:17.090 --> 00:55:18.949 Can I answer the question on you, Baldy? Yeah, 00:55:18.949 --> 00:55:20.789 no, absolutely. That was fantastic. Actually, 00:55:20.829 --> 00:55:24.329 I want to circle around to the fat cop. And the 00:55:24.329 --> 00:55:27.730 reason I say that is if you think about day one, 00:55:27.829 --> 00:55:30.309 arguably pretty much all of our first responders 00:55:30.309 --> 00:55:33.590 were in great shape. And when you look at the 00:55:33.590 --> 00:55:35.949 way that some of them are worked, they're in 00:55:35.949 --> 00:55:38.030 an environment that sets them up for disease, 00:55:38.210 --> 00:55:41.190 for mental ill health, for weight gain. And the 00:55:41.190 --> 00:55:42.929 massive thing that we've had, and you literally 00:55:42.929 --> 00:55:46.179 touched on it earlier about. Before, in the fireside, 00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.579 we used to have a great, great recruitment percentage 00:55:48.579 --> 00:55:53.039 where we could hire 10 % off that list, take 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.639 the cream of the crop. And that's gone down to 00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:58.579 almost nothing now, depending on the city. And 00:55:58.579 --> 00:56:00.900 I agree, the conversation of imagine calling 00:56:00.900 --> 00:56:03.860 911 and just getting a dial tone, that's not 00:56:03.860 --> 00:56:06.440 too far away if we don't turn it around. But 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.260 one of the most beautiful things that's happening 00:56:08.260 --> 00:56:10.139 here in Florida, and I hope my voice has been 00:56:10.139 --> 00:56:12.920 part of this movement, is that we're seeing on 00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.739 the fireside now, Fire departments going from 00:56:15.739 --> 00:56:18.900 a 56 hour work week to a 42 hour work week. So 00:56:18.900 --> 00:56:21.800 they get an extra 24 between their shifts. They're 00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.400 seeing that the health, the mental health and 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.900 in recruitment and retention, people are staying 00:56:26.900 --> 00:56:29.280 and people are flocking to those departments 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.980 now. I heard you on Conan's podcast talking about. 00:56:33.630 --> 00:56:36.610 the the connection between sleep deprivation 00:56:36.610 --> 00:56:38.349 and mental health now this is something i've 00:56:38.349 --> 00:56:41.010 had many many guests on but i think it's it's 00:56:41.010 --> 00:56:44.210 worth you know diving deeply into because if 00:56:44.210 --> 00:56:47.289 you think about a 56 hour work week population 00:56:47.289 --> 00:56:49.730 doesn't sleep every three days and then the mandatory 00:56:49.730 --> 00:56:53.230 overtime now that's a fourth day with 48 72 96 00:56:53.230 --> 00:56:56.670 hours and we have an absolute recruitment oh 00:56:56.670 --> 00:56:59.289 sorry a suicide crisis at the moment obviously 00:56:59.289 --> 00:57:02.500 that is a big part of the puzzle But as we've 00:57:02.500 --> 00:57:04.500 alluded to in other areas of this conversation, 00:57:04.900 --> 00:57:07.920 there are the most glaring of truths that the 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.420 people are afraid to actually address. So I think 00:57:10.420 --> 00:57:12.780 dragging them into the spotlight is important. 00:57:13.579 --> 00:57:19.360 Yeah. Again, I had an hour to talk to 300 FOP. 00:57:20.019 --> 00:57:23.739 I said, guys, if I only had five minutes, this 00:57:23.739 --> 00:57:26.380 is the key thing we'd cover. We talk about wellness. 00:57:26.579 --> 00:57:29.230 We've got to begin with sleep. And we'll give 00:57:29.230 --> 00:57:31.750 them time off, and they're doing a second job 00:57:31.750 --> 00:57:35.010 when they should be resting. We got to monitor 00:57:35.010 --> 00:57:38.690 off -time jobs, and we got to monitor to make 00:57:38.690 --> 00:57:42.010 them sleep. Now, the Air Force has always had 00:57:42.010 --> 00:57:44.550 a great model for sleep, right? You're flying 00:57:44.550 --> 00:57:46.969 a quarter of a billion -dollar aircraft, get 00:57:46.969 --> 00:57:49.590 some sleep, run around. So they've already had 00:57:49.590 --> 00:57:54.190 crew rest, and pilots have the lowest suicide 00:57:54.190 --> 00:57:58.489 rate. in that environment. In the Army, again, 00:57:58.570 --> 00:58:01.250 our pilots and crew rest is being demanded and 00:58:01.250 --> 00:58:03.789 has been locked in. And they have a much, much 00:58:03.789 --> 00:58:06.530 lower suicide rate in that community. Right behind 00:58:06.530 --> 00:58:08.489 the pilots are our truck drivers in the Army. 00:58:09.170 --> 00:58:11.130 And the truck drivers have a culture of sleep. 00:58:11.409 --> 00:58:13.190 You know, civilian truck drivers got to get to 00:58:13.190 --> 00:58:14.869 sleep, got to be on the road tomorrow, get some 00:58:14.869 --> 00:58:17.550 sleep, run around. But go back to the Air Force. 00:58:17.929 --> 00:58:20.530 Look, we're given them crew rest. Are they using 00:58:20.530 --> 00:58:23.619 it? Are they taking it? The Air Force is going 00:58:23.619 --> 00:58:26.320 with this sleep monitor. The aura ring is what 00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:27.739 they're going with. A lot of people go with the 00:58:27.739 --> 00:58:31.019 aura. I like the Fitbit in many ways, but that 00:58:31.019 --> 00:58:34.099 aura is tracking your sleep. And we'll make sure 00:58:34.099 --> 00:58:35.579 that you're actually getting that sleep. And 00:58:35.579 --> 00:58:37.320 if you're not getting that sleep, we're going 00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.159 to fix that. Maybe it's a medical condition. 00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:42.579 We need to physically track that. But when we 00:58:42.579 --> 00:58:46.000 talk about sleep deprivation, 24 hours without 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:50.539 sleep is just like... being legally drunk. 0 00:58:50.539 --> 00:58:53.159 .10 blood alcohol level above legally drunk. 00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.480 24 hours and you're drunk. If somebody showed 00:58:56.480 --> 00:59:00.139 up work drunk, you kick his ass. We're short 00:59:00.139 --> 00:59:01.579 on people. Are you drunk? Put them on the street 00:59:01.579 --> 00:59:06.260 anyway. But if you're work sleep deprived, we 00:59:06.260 --> 00:59:09.360 don't think anything about it. And better no 00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.000 cop than a bad cop. Look, bad things happen. 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.860 No cops there. Happens all the time. Bad things 00:59:14.860 --> 00:59:17.420 happen and a bad cop's there. He does something 00:59:17.420 --> 00:59:20.030 stupid. We all pay a terrible, terrible price 00:59:20.030 --> 00:59:23.710 for it. And better no cop than a bad cop. Better 00:59:23.710 --> 00:59:27.190 no cop than a sleep deprived cop. And here's 00:59:27.190 --> 00:59:31.309 the crazy part. If you're drunk in a couple hours, 00:59:31.530 --> 00:59:34.030 you'll be better. If you're sleep deprived in 00:59:34.030 --> 00:59:36.349 a couple hours, you'll be that much worse. And 00:59:36.349 --> 00:59:39.869 we've got to create this environment, a culture 00:59:39.869 --> 00:59:41.710 in which we understand we've got to get that 00:59:41.710 --> 00:59:43.809 sleep and we've got to allow that time. Across 00:59:43.809 --> 00:59:47.889 America, cops want to be 12 -hour shifts. I want 00:59:47.889 --> 00:59:50.130 to be like firefighters and work 12 -hour shifts. 00:59:50.210 --> 00:59:53.090 Well, firefighters get to sleep on the job. Only 00:59:53.090 --> 00:59:55.449 firefighters and prostitutes make money in bed. 00:59:58.409 --> 01:00:00.309 Now, you know, we're saying that in jest. You 01:00:00.309 --> 01:00:01.829 know, a lot of folks, they don't get that chance. 01:00:02.429 --> 01:00:05.190 They work a 12 -hour shift and never get a chance 01:00:05.190 --> 01:00:07.969 to sleep, going 100 miles an hour. Is that the 01:00:07.969 --> 01:00:11.550 person you want to be there in your time of greatest 01:00:11.550 --> 01:00:15.010 need for your loved ones? Culture madness. Somebody 01:00:15.010 --> 01:00:18.449 said, oh, I drank all night long, and I had a 01:00:18.449 --> 01:00:19.849 great party, and they showed up to work. You 01:00:19.849 --> 01:00:22.269 say, that's not acceptable. Somebody said, oh, 01:00:22.289 --> 01:00:24.389 I played the new video game all night long, dude. 01:00:24.489 --> 01:00:26.869 It was awesome. I played it all night long. That's 01:00:26.869 --> 01:00:29.530 not acceptable. You know, you show up drunk, 01:00:29.610 --> 01:00:31.329 you get ass kicked. You played the stink of games 01:00:31.329 --> 01:00:34.050 all night long. You need your deal kicked. One 01:00:34.050 --> 01:00:35.769 of the books I recommend to everybody is Dr. 01:00:35.869 --> 01:00:39.090 Matthew Walker's book, Why We Sleep. I don't 01:00:39.090 --> 01:00:41.190 even have to buy the book. Look up Dr. Matthew 01:00:41.190 --> 01:00:43.719 Walker online and go to his website. Because 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.739 he's received all kinds of attacks. Because when 01:00:46.739 --> 01:00:48.780 you say get sleep, that means turn off the video 01:00:48.780 --> 01:00:52.460 game. Turn off Netflix. Netflix says their competitor 01:00:52.460 --> 01:00:55.099 is sleep. The corporate policy in Netflix is 01:00:55.099 --> 01:00:57.300 to steal your sleep. They don't care about the 01:00:57.300 --> 01:00:58.679 harm that's being done. They just want to sell 01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:02.619 their product. And Dr. Walker is just posting 01:01:02.619 --> 01:01:04.519 the research, just keeps posting the research 01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:08.059 that shows. So just do an online search for sleep 01:01:08.059 --> 01:01:12.059 deprivation and suicide. Boom. Study after study. 01:01:12.730 --> 01:01:16.170 Not only is sleep deprivation a key factor in 01:01:16.170 --> 01:01:20.449 suicide, it's the most remediable factor. But 01:01:20.449 --> 01:01:22.429 we can't do much about your relationships, your 01:01:22.429 --> 01:01:24.909 finances right now. We'll get you a good night's 01:01:24.909 --> 01:01:28.590 sleep right stinking now. This is the most remediable 01:01:28.590 --> 01:01:31.530 factor. There's a study I'd throw up that shows 01:01:31.530 --> 01:01:35.309 that if you're sleep deprived, you're five times 01:01:35.309 --> 01:01:38.409 more likely to get PTSD, nine times more likely 01:01:38.409 --> 01:01:40.869 to have a major depressive disorder, six times 01:01:40.869 --> 01:01:44.250 more likely. They have a suicidal ideation. If 01:01:44.250 --> 01:01:46.050 you're already sleep deprived and the bad stuff 01:01:46.050 --> 01:01:48.730 comes down, they amplify each other. Now, this 01:01:48.730 --> 01:01:52.590 is not really a causal religion, not even a correlational 01:01:52.590 --> 01:01:55.909 religion. It's a toxic, interactive relationship. 01:01:56.829 --> 01:01:59.010 How do you get a handle on PTSD? How do you get 01:01:59.010 --> 01:02:02.190 a handle on depression and suicide? Well, you 01:02:02.190 --> 01:02:05.269 can get a handle right now on that fourth item 01:02:05.269 --> 01:02:08.610 of sleep and reduce depression and reduce suicide. 01:02:09.110 --> 01:02:11.860 It's there. And then we got the link between 01:02:11.860 --> 01:02:14.559 sleep deprivation and mental illness. Do an online 01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:16.820 search, sleep deprivation, mental illness. Oh, 01:02:16.900 --> 01:02:20.739 on the third day without sleep, you are hearing 01:02:20.739 --> 01:02:22.460 things and seeing things that are not there. 01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.920 At Ranger School, in Sears School, on that third 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.440 day, you are hallucinating. You're seeing things 01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:31.940 that are not there. You're flat psychotic. On 01:02:31.940 --> 01:02:35.099 the third day without sleep, you are psychotic. 01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:40.139 And you need to understand that. So the link 01:02:40.139 --> 01:02:42.119 between sleep deprivation and mental illness, 01:02:42.219 --> 01:02:45.480 sleep deprivation and obesity. You want to lose 01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:48.800 weight? Watch your sleep. The link between sleep 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.980 deprivation and traffic deaths. Traffic deaths, 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.679 decade after decade, have gone down. Airbags, 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.599 seatbelts, medical tech are now worldwide. For 01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.300 the last decade, traffic deaths have exploded. 01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:02.800 By the way, worldwide suicides have exploded. 01:03:03.380 --> 01:03:05.440 Twin -eaters, 10, 11, 12 -year -olds, teenage 01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.760 girls' suicide rate has tripled. across just 01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:14.820 a decade. And that was pre -pandemic. All of 01:03:14.820 --> 01:03:18.039 those data went back up. We all think, oh, it's 01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:21.679 true. We lose more cops to suicide than every 01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.820 other line of duty death put together. But the 01:03:24.820 --> 01:03:27.519 same thing is true for veterinarians and dentists. 01:03:28.340 --> 01:03:30.599 Oh, dentists have the highest suicide rate. No, 01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:33.030 they don't. It went up. You just don't have, 01:03:33.130 --> 01:03:36.429 you're all siloed. We don't understand that everywhere 01:03:36.429 --> 01:03:39.190 suicide's exploding. So here's parenting 101 01:03:39.190 --> 01:03:42.309 for the 21st century. When you send your kid 01:03:42.309 --> 01:03:45.570 to bed at night, take the cell phone away from 01:03:45.570 --> 01:03:48.250 them. No laptop in the room, no cell phone in 01:03:48.250 --> 01:03:51.550 the room, they got into the room and sleep. Well, 01:03:51.570 --> 01:03:53.349 a cop came up to me during one of my presentations. 01:03:56.090 --> 01:03:59.130 He said, I had one of those tweenators. And great 01:03:59.130 --> 01:04:00.769 term, you know, 10, 11, 12 years. He said, I 01:04:00.769 --> 01:04:03.510 had one of those teenage girls. He said, she 01:04:03.510 --> 01:04:08.889 was an A student. She was a good kid. And she 01:04:08.889 --> 01:04:11.289 said, Dad, it's embarrassing. You don't have 01:04:11.289 --> 01:04:12.929 to take my cell phone every night. You can trust 01:04:12.929 --> 01:04:14.969 me. Family policy, step on the charger, go to 01:04:14.969 --> 01:04:17.769 bed. It's embarrassing. You don't have to take 01:04:17.769 --> 01:04:19.429 my phone every night. You can trust me. He said, 01:04:19.489 --> 01:04:22.489 okay, I trust you. Keep your phone. A little 01:04:22.489 --> 01:04:25.550 while later, she took her life. He said, my little 01:04:25.550 --> 01:04:28.519 girl took her life. He said we never knew the 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:31.280 hell she was living in until we looked at the 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:34.519 text messages on her cell phone. Night after 01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:37.800 night of ceaseless, relentless, vicious bullying. 01:04:38.340 --> 01:04:40.860 And you can't just ignore that. We're not wired 01:04:40.860 --> 01:04:44.219 that way. He said it was heart -rending to see 01:04:44.219 --> 01:04:46.400 her all night long, night after night, trying 01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:48.980 to defend herself, trying to find somebody to 01:04:48.980 --> 01:04:51.760 stand for. He said, I immediately knew my little 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:55.159 girl was bullied to death. What I didn't understand 01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:58.750 until now. She was sleep -deprived, tormented, 01:04:58.789 --> 01:05:01.349 and bullied to death in front of my eyes. And 01:05:01.349 --> 01:05:04.269 I let it happen. He said, I can't ignore that 01:05:04.269 --> 01:05:06.690 text message in the middle of the night. How 01:05:06.690 --> 01:05:09.550 can we expect our kids to? He said, the one thing 01:05:09.550 --> 01:05:11.969 Earth could do for my little girl, we take her 01:05:11.969 --> 01:05:13.710 phone every night, let her turn off all the bad 01:05:13.710 --> 01:05:16.050 stuff in this world. Who's going to be your mommy? 01:05:16.710 --> 01:05:19.849 Who's going to make you get that sleep? I tell 01:05:19.849 --> 01:05:23.630 people, friends do not text friends at 2 o 'clock 01:05:23.630 --> 01:05:25.650 in the morning. They are not your friends if 01:05:25.650 --> 01:05:27.449 they do that. Unless it's a life and death emergency, 01:05:27.650 --> 01:05:29.989 they are not your friends. We have to respect 01:05:29.989 --> 01:05:31.889 each other's sleep. We have to create an environment 01:05:31.889 --> 01:05:35.289 of sleep management. So the link between sleep 01:05:35.289 --> 01:05:37.869 deprivation and the opiate epidemic. Let's stay 01:05:37.869 --> 01:05:41.190 with this. Sleep deprivation creates chronic 01:05:41.190 --> 01:05:44.650 pain. Do an online search. Sleep deprivation, 01:05:44.789 --> 01:05:47.269 chronic pain. Irrefutable. We've all had bad 01:05:47.269 --> 01:05:48.889 night's sleep. We'll wake up feeling like hell. 01:05:49.210 --> 01:05:52.710 And sleep deprivation creates chronic pain. So 01:05:52.710 --> 01:05:55.679 fentanyl. The opiate epidemic, fentanyl is just 01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:59.019 one aspect of the opiates. Fentanyl is an opiate. 01:05:59.460 --> 01:06:03.159 Fentanyl kills 70 ,000 to 80 ,000 Americans a 01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:05.820 year. We lost a little shy of 50 ,000 in all 01:06:05.820 --> 01:06:08.900 of Vietnam, over 20 years of Vietnam, about 50 01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:11.659 ,000. We lose more than that every year to fentanyl. 01:06:11.940 --> 01:06:14.619 And prescription opiates have always been there. 01:06:15.019 --> 01:06:17.199 Why are prescription opiates a drug? Why not 01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:19.719 crack? Why not meth? Why is opiate the drug of 01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.559 choice? Because sleep deprivation creates chronic 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:26.780 pain. This global epidemic of sleep deprivation 01:06:26.780 --> 01:06:31.179 is killing us. Suicides, mental health, traffic 01:06:31.179 --> 01:06:35.760 deaths, obesity. And so I trained at East Texas 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:37.579 School Safety Consortium a little while back. 01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:40.400 One or two people in charge of safety for every 01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:42.800 school in East Texas. I said, we're going to 01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:45.739 talk about protecting your school from violence. 01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.239 Ought to be pretty good. Never had a homicide 01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:52.380 in your school. I bet you had some suicides. 01:06:52.860 --> 01:06:55.840 I bet you had traffic deaths. I bet you had a 01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.599 problem with mental illness. You want to walk 01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.860 out that door and save a kid's life? Sleep. What 01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:05.579 can we do about suicide? Sleep. What can we do 01:07:05.579 --> 01:07:07.679 about traffic deaths? Sleep. What can we do about 01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.500 all this mental illness? Sleep. This is the one 01:07:10.500 --> 01:07:12.000 thing you walk out the door and they didn't know 01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:16.360 this. Number one, you got to get X number of 01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:19.230 sleep depending on your age. And kids will do 01:07:19.230 --> 01:07:22.210 that. My second grade teacher told me cigarettes 01:07:22.210 --> 01:07:24.769 kill people. I went home and hid my dad's cigarettes. 01:07:25.369 --> 01:07:27.809 When your elementary teacher tells you this is 01:07:27.809 --> 01:07:29.989 how much sleep you need, here's the way to figure 01:07:29.989 --> 01:07:33.050 it out. Number one, how much sleep you need at 01:07:33.050 --> 01:07:35.550 that age. Number two, you've got to sleep in 01:07:35.550 --> 01:07:38.510 total darkness. Our bodies are designed to sleep 01:07:38.510 --> 01:07:40.409 in total darkness. Of course, I'm a big fan of 01:07:40.409 --> 01:07:43.909 the sleep mask, and it really, really works. 01:07:44.050 --> 01:07:47.570 It will rock your world. I tell people, you know, 01:07:47.570 --> 01:07:49.730 you may not get one more minute of sleep. You 01:07:49.730 --> 01:07:52.789 get quality sleep if you use the sleep mask. 01:07:52.889 --> 01:07:55.670 Make the room as dark as you can. I don't care 01:07:55.670 --> 01:07:58.369 how good your blackout curtains are. If you can 01:07:58.369 --> 01:08:00.030 tell us daylight outside, it's too much light. 01:08:00.750 --> 01:08:03.469 Number one, how much sleep you need. Number two, 01:08:03.489 --> 01:08:06.230 sleep in total darkness. Number three, cut off 01:08:06.230 --> 01:08:09.349 caffeine shortly after lunch. It's that first 01:08:09.349 --> 01:08:11.170 hour after lunch, get rid of caffeine, then shut 01:08:11.170 --> 01:08:14.070 it down. That caffeine is making us have bad 01:08:14.070 --> 01:08:17.170 quality sleep. Another area that Dr. Walker talked 01:08:17.170 --> 01:08:19.449 about that's irrefutable is a link between sleep 01:08:19.449 --> 01:08:22.329 deprivation and dementia. Alzheimer's is the 01:08:22.329 --> 01:08:25.310 most common form of dementia. He goes, I'll sleep 01:08:25.310 --> 01:08:27.130 when I'm dead. You have to take it off Alzheimer's 01:08:27.130 --> 01:08:30.689 first, you idiot. And that's just getting the 01:08:30.689 --> 01:08:34.329 hell out of all of us. And when we talk with 01:08:34.329 --> 01:08:38.149 adults, we talk about sleep apnea and getting 01:08:38.149 --> 01:08:42.149 treatment for sleep apnea. And I had a Navy SEAL 01:08:42.149 --> 01:08:49.489 E9. Navy SEAL. a master chief, nine combat tours, 01:08:49.789 --> 01:08:53.170 amazing human being, killed more bad guys than 01:08:53.170 --> 01:08:59.210 the flu vaccine. And he said, I want to talk 01:08:59.210 --> 01:09:02.909 to you about that CPAP and sleep apnea. He said, 01:09:02.949 --> 01:09:07.270 I had nine years of bad sleep. Everybody on the 01:09:07.270 --> 01:09:10.569 team complained about my snoring. He said, finally, 01:09:10.630 --> 01:09:13.859 I was ordered to go to the sleep apnea. Partway 01:09:13.859 --> 01:09:16.279 through the night, they woke me up. Master Chief, 01:09:16.380 --> 01:09:18.899 you have sleep apnea. You have it bad. Wear this 01:09:18.899 --> 01:09:22.359 CPAP, go back to sleep. He said, I woke up that 01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:25.880 next morning after a good night's sleep for the 01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:30.180 first time in nine years. He said, I cannot communicate 01:09:30.180 --> 01:09:33.319 to you what it felt like to get a good night's 01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:36.119 sleep after nine years. He said, no meal I've 01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:39.539 ever eaten, no sex I've ever had, nothing has 01:09:39.539 --> 01:09:43.340 ever been as good as that sweet, whole. Beautiful, 01:09:43.340 --> 01:09:45.579 healthy night's sleep after nine years of bad 01:09:45.579 --> 01:09:47.680 sleep. Now, some of you out there want to say, 01:09:47.699 --> 01:09:49.060 oh, if it's better than sex, you're not doing 01:09:49.060 --> 01:09:50.760 it right. Oh, you go to him and look him in the 01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:54.539 eyes. You tell him that. So these are the things 01:09:54.539 --> 01:09:56.619 we've got to know. And it's got to be taught 01:09:56.619 --> 01:09:58.880 in elementary school. And then we're through 01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:02.399 this whole dynamic of video games. A video game 01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:04.359 will never say, I'm going to play this game for 01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:07.479 48 hours, get some sleep now. Facebook will never 01:10:07.479 --> 01:10:09.199 say, you've been online for 36 hours, we're going 01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.000 to shut you down. They will never do that. Your 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.840 time is their money. And all they want to do 01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:18.159 is steal your time and steal your sleep. I don't 01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:20.880 care that there's a global epidemic of sleep 01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:23.600 deprivation that's killing people. They don't 01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:25.939 care that they're part of the problem. They just 01:10:25.939 --> 01:10:28.279 want to make money. And that's the dynamic that 01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.199 we have challenged with right now is these corporate 01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.979 entities that are trying to steal our sleep. 01:10:34.090 --> 01:10:36.270 It's so interesting. There's a local department 01:10:36.270 --> 01:10:39.329 here that have had four firefighter suicides 01:10:39.329 --> 01:10:42.550 in four years, a fifth one at the same time period 01:10:42.550 --> 01:10:46.630 that survived his attempt. And then a sixth one 01:10:46.630 --> 01:10:48.609 who had worked for this agency for a long time 01:10:48.609 --> 01:10:50.890 went to a different agency and shortly after 01:10:50.890 --> 01:10:54.310 took his own life. And there's a complete resistance 01:10:54.310 --> 01:10:58.079 to acknowledging. this exactly what we're talking 01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:02.260 about. And they work 56 that growth grossly understaffed 01:11:02.260 --> 01:11:03.899 because of that. I mean, no one wants to work 01:11:03.899 --> 01:11:05.760 for them. They pay poorly. They treat their people 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.680 poorly. And, and, you know, and so this kind 01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:10.939 of apathy is what I'm fighting against. But like 01:11:10.939 --> 01:11:13.619 I said, conversely, I'm being asked to all over 01:11:13.619 --> 01:11:15.739 the country to, Hey, can you come and help us 01:11:15.739 --> 01:11:18.500 talk about this, this new schedule, which is 01:11:18.500 --> 01:11:22.029 beautiful. One thing that when I think of sleep, 01:11:22.090 --> 01:11:24.649 and I've quoted you so many times on this, when 01:11:24.649 --> 01:11:27.090 people talk about video games and the connection 01:11:27.090 --> 01:11:30.829 with school violence, you know, I think I told 01:11:30.829 --> 01:11:32.289 you this in the last one, I rolled my eyes when 01:11:32.289 --> 01:11:33.989 I first heard that. Like, oh, come on, you know, 01:11:34.010 --> 01:11:35.449 Pac -Man's not going to make you want to go and 01:11:35.449 --> 01:11:37.930 shoot at school. But when you unpacked everything 01:11:37.930 --> 01:11:40.170 from the operant conditioning, you know, all 01:11:40.170 --> 01:11:43.289 the actual technical elements, the kind of desensitization, 01:11:43.409 --> 01:11:47.310 the gaming against previous shooters, those all 01:11:47.310 --> 01:11:51.079 made sense. But then coming from the experience 01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:54.180 that I really know, when you underlined, and 01:11:54.180 --> 01:11:56.399 by the way, when these kids are up playing all 01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:59.399 night, there's a form of psychosis through sleep 01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:02.460 deprivation. That was, you know, mind blowing 01:12:02.460 --> 01:12:04.600 to me. So let's kind of revisit that because 01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:06.539 I think that's important when we're talking, 01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:08.819 like you said, the road deaths, but especially 01:12:08.819 --> 01:12:12.520 the actual, you know, the psychotic events. Now 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:14.920 you're planning to go into an elementary school 01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:18.909 and execute children. You know, one irrefutable 01:12:18.909 --> 01:12:22.130 fact is that video games are linked to sleep 01:12:22.130 --> 01:12:24.829 deprivation. They spend vast amounts of money. 01:12:24.890 --> 01:12:26.489 You can't imagine how much money this industry 01:12:26.489 --> 01:12:29.750 has. One video game, Grand Theft Auto V, the 01:12:29.750 --> 01:12:33.250 year it came out, one game made more money than 01:12:33.250 --> 01:12:37.390 the entire global music industry. One game made 01:12:37.390 --> 01:12:40.449 more money every rock concert on the planet, 01:12:40.550 --> 01:12:44.090 every musician, every CD, every download on the 01:12:44.090 --> 01:12:47.250 planet. They have vast amounts of money. And 01:12:47.250 --> 01:12:49.890 they use that money for two things. Number one, 01:12:50.449 --> 01:12:52.890 to be able to sell this stuff to children, fighting 01:12:52.890 --> 01:12:55.949 anybody who tries to restrict them. In 2005, 01:12:56.630 --> 01:12:59.989 the state of California overwhelmingly voted 01:12:59.989 --> 01:13:03.149 to regulate children's access to violent video 01:13:03.149 --> 01:13:06.510 games. 2005, California. Silicon Valley said, 01:13:06.569 --> 01:13:09.789 we're good with this. Hollywood said, yeah, we're 01:13:09.789 --> 01:13:11.869 good with this. Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor. 01:13:12.010 --> 01:13:14.550 Arnold signed the bill. And the video game industry 01:13:14.550 --> 01:13:18.100 fought. all the way to the Supreme Court to sell 01:13:18.100 --> 01:13:22.000 any game to any kid at any age. What the gamers 01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:25.159 will agree on is enforcing the rating system. 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:27.399 We don't realize it. We're not trying to take 01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:29.520 your video game. We're just saying kids shouldn't 01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:31.439 be playing this game. They've got a rating system. 01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:34.420 I was at the White House at the President's Roundtable 01:13:34.420 --> 01:13:36.960 on violent video games. They told me the day 01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:38.239 before, you want to go to the White House? Yeah, 01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:40.739 sure. I'm out on the road. I'm wearing my little 01:13:40.739 --> 01:13:42.579 bolo tie and my little leather vest in the White 01:13:42.579 --> 01:13:45.109 House. On the other side of the table, we had 01:13:45.109 --> 01:13:46.949 Rubio there, some good people there, got to shake 01:13:46.949 --> 01:13:49.430 their hand, the president, Trump, very impressive 01:13:49.430 --> 01:13:52.390 and gracious man in person. And they said, oh, 01:13:52.430 --> 01:13:54.649 we have a rating system. The guy's in there, 01:13:54.689 --> 01:13:57.930 you know, their $10 ,000 suits over there. We've 01:13:57.930 --> 01:14:02.329 got a rating system. I said, why did you fight 01:14:02.329 --> 01:14:05.470 all the way to the Supreme Court? That's all 01:14:05.470 --> 01:14:09.369 any game to any kid at any age. I slid my book 01:14:09.369 --> 01:14:10.810 across the table with the president. I said, 01:14:10.829 --> 01:14:13.600 sir, it's all in my book. My book, Assassination 01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.159 General, it's all there. It's a great book. They 01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:19.300 fought all the way to the Supreme Court to sell 01:14:19.300 --> 01:14:22.600 any game to any industry. So I want you to wrap 01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:25.800 your mind around that. Look, if just one in a 01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:29.180 million, you know, those who are capable of committing 01:14:29.180 --> 01:14:31.600 homicide, we've got kindergartners who murdered 01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:34.180 people in the school. Kindergarteners walk in 01:14:34.180 --> 01:14:39.340 and shot a kid. If we just take, you know, we'll 01:14:39.340 --> 01:14:43.039 take away 30 million. or the 330 million in our 01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:45.739 population, take away 30 million, the remaining 01:14:45.739 --> 01:14:52.840 300 million, if just one in a million is tipped 01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:56.319 over the top, you have 300 a day. Just one in 01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:59.739 a million on any given day gives you 300 murders 01:14:59.739 --> 01:15:02.920 a day. Now remember, we only have about 50 murders 01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:06.279 per day. If one in a million is put over the 01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:08.500 top, and again, the place where we all agree 01:15:08.500 --> 01:15:11.579 is when it comes to kids. When one in a million 01:15:11.579 --> 01:15:14.739 are put over the top, then doggone it, we need 01:15:14.739 --> 01:15:16.520 to think about it. Because the one thing we can 01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.260 accept is children. They don't have sex. They 01:15:19.260 --> 01:15:21.420 don't have drugs. They don't have pornography. 01:15:21.699 --> 01:15:24.100 They don't get guns. They don't drive automobiles. 01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:26.460 There are all kinds of things we say adults can 01:15:26.460 --> 01:15:28.739 do this, but kids can't. Alcohol, pornography, 01:15:28.939 --> 01:15:31.420 tobacco, sex, guns, gang. There's so many things. 01:15:31.699 --> 01:15:34.619 And this is one more thing that we need to protect 01:15:34.619 --> 01:15:37.899 our children from. And, you know, the whole sleep 01:15:37.899 --> 01:15:41.180 management thing. is huge. And we're monitoring 01:15:41.180 --> 01:15:46.079 and tracking people. I love this on all of our 01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:50.079 sports teams. This is their secret weapon. If 01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:52.060 you're a college football team, basketball team, 01:15:52.100 --> 01:15:55.380 don't matter, and your folks are getting enough 01:15:55.380 --> 01:15:57.939 sleep, and the other team isn't, you're going 01:15:57.939 --> 01:16:00.720 to kick their tail. And this has become their 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:03.399 secret weapon. And what the coach does, make 01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.579 everybody wear an aura ring. And they track the 01:16:06.579 --> 01:16:09.710 data. And so what they do, coach said, this happens 01:16:09.710 --> 01:16:12.350 every year. He said, one of them wears 10 rings 01:16:12.350 --> 01:16:17.090 and goes to bed. His buddies all go party. The 01:16:17.090 --> 01:16:18.770 coach figures that one out real fast. I'll get 01:16:18.770 --> 01:16:20.710 up all night long. What are we up for? Oh, I 01:16:20.710 --> 01:16:22.710 was playing video games, coach. Well, that stuff 01:16:22.710 --> 01:16:25.010 stops right now. The games are so addictive. 01:16:25.569 --> 01:16:30.590 You know, I trained an infantry battalion under 01:16:30.590 --> 01:16:33.789 1st Airborne Division, Campbell, headed out to 01:16:33.789 --> 01:16:38.949 Iraq. And the command sergeant major told me, 01:16:38.989 --> 01:16:41.210 he said, on the previous deployment with this 01:16:41.210 --> 01:16:44.609 unit, he said we were in a barracks environment 01:16:44.609 --> 01:16:49.909 at night and combat patrols during the day. And 01:16:49.909 --> 01:16:53.229 I told my folks, it's lights out after 2200. 01:16:53.729 --> 01:16:56.810 He said, if I catch you playing video games after 01:16:56.810 --> 01:17:00.989 10 p .m., I will take your video game. He said, 01:17:01.029 --> 01:17:03.470 these are good troops. They said they wouldn't 01:17:03.470 --> 01:17:06.600 disband order. We said a week later, I had a 01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:10.420 closet overflowing with video games. He said, 01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:14.619 they cannot not play those games. We had a Marine 01:17:14.619 --> 01:17:17.300 battalion deployed to Syria. They fired some 01:17:17.300 --> 01:17:20.460 fire missions, but it was a Marine artillery 01:17:20.460 --> 01:17:23.140 battalion. They fired cannons for a while. Off 01:17:23.140 --> 01:17:26.340 and on, they came home. All kinds of PTSD, all 01:17:26.340 --> 01:17:29.539 kinds of suicides. Oh, he was firing those missions. 01:17:29.659 --> 01:17:32.979 No, it wasn't. In World War I and World War II. 01:17:33.559 --> 01:17:37.380 hundreds of thousands of people, fired artillery 01:17:37.380 --> 01:17:41.979 for years on end, for years. And they didn't 01:17:41.979 --> 01:17:44.800 have this response. What was happening was you 01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:48.279 were not sleeping. You rolled out of bed for 01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:50.619 a fire mission, and then you played video games, 01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:54.739 and you watched movies. I was in Ukraine, and 01:17:54.739 --> 01:17:56.960 I had the chance to talk to all these different, 01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.760 mostly company -level leaders, and I talked about 01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:03.810 the sleep. And one of them, one... commander. 01:18:03.949 --> 01:18:06.189 He's probably captain level, major level commander. 01:18:06.630 --> 01:18:09.310 He said, well, you never know when the Russians 01:18:09.310 --> 01:18:12.130 are going to bomb us. And then they get air attacks. 01:18:12.510 --> 01:18:15.810 So you can't sleep. So I play video games because 01:18:15.810 --> 01:18:18.310 you can't sleep anyway. The French all look at 01:18:18.310 --> 01:18:20.710 him like, dude, do you hear yourself right now? 01:18:21.029 --> 01:18:24.449 And by the way, we have learned throughout World 01:18:24.449 --> 01:18:26.449 War I and World War II, you can sleep through 01:18:26.449 --> 01:18:28.710 anything. If you're tight enough, you will sleep 01:18:28.710 --> 01:18:30.909 through anything. Another guy, another group 01:18:30.909 --> 01:18:33.010 of audience said, well, I have terrible nightmares, 01:18:33.229 --> 01:18:36.050 terrible nightmares. So I watch movies, so I 01:18:36.050 --> 01:18:37.909 don't have sleep, I don't have nightmares. And 01:18:37.909 --> 01:18:40.329 Fred John said, dude, and look at it, do you 01:18:40.329 --> 01:18:43.510 ever understand what that sounds like? It was. 01:18:43.770 --> 01:18:46.090 And see, they come up with those things. Oh, 01:18:46.170 --> 01:18:47.750 you can't sleep anyway, you have nightmares. 01:18:48.069 --> 01:18:50.750 That's just the most dysfunctional, pathological 01:18:50.750 --> 01:18:53.689 thing you could do is not get that sleep. And 01:18:53.689 --> 01:18:55.529 this is the wild card that's just crept into 01:18:55.529 --> 01:18:58.699 the equation everywhere. children. And it's a 01:18:58.699 --> 01:19:01.859 defining challenge of our generation that we've 01:19:01.859 --> 01:19:05.039 got the data showing the link between sleep deprivation 01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:09.340 and all these other pathologies. What we do not 01:19:09.340 --> 01:19:13.199 have, but I believe is here, we have 200 years 01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:17.159 and 10 ,000 studies showing the link between 01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:22.840 alcohol and violent behavior. We do not have 01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:26.260 that data on sleep deprivation and violent behavior. 01:19:26.859 --> 01:19:29.220 But I believe it's there. And I think we can 01:19:29.220 --> 01:19:32.399 spot it. I think we can find it. Being drunk 01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:35.039 and sleep deprived are exactly the same in all 01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:37.859 these different ways. And this other way you 01:19:37.859 --> 01:19:40.579 can bet on it. The irrational behavior, the anger, 01:19:40.819 --> 01:19:44.140 the inhibitions that have been repressed. Alcohol 01:19:44.140 --> 01:19:46.260 and sleep deprivation doing the exact same thing. 01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:49.560 And this global epidemic of sleep deprivation 01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:52.659 is eating us alive. I believe it is the single 01:19:52.659 --> 01:19:55.779 greatest threat to the survival of our civilization. 01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:58.859 We have vast numbers of people out there that 01:19:58.859 --> 01:20:02.479 are dysfunctional and irrational. And here's 01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:05.180 the thing, sleep is a biological blind spot. 01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:09.260 Your body knows how to make you get enough air 01:20:09.260 --> 01:20:13.720 or water or food, but your body doesn't know 01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:16.739 how to make you get enough sleep because it always 01:20:16.739 --> 01:20:19.180 happened naturally. Throughout the history of 01:20:19.180 --> 01:20:21.960 our species, uncounted numbers of years, every 01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:25.159 night without fail, it got dark and there was 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:28.149 nothing to do. A little sex, a little talking, 01:20:28.189 --> 01:20:30.189 went to sleep. You didn't have to make yourself 01:20:30.189 --> 01:20:32.390 sleep, it happened naturally. They were invited 01:20:32.390 --> 01:20:34.090 to the electric light bulb and the television 01:20:34.090 --> 01:20:37.550 and the video game and binge watching Netflix. 01:20:38.170 --> 01:20:40.489 And the body doesn't know how to make us get 01:20:40.489 --> 01:20:42.489 enough sleep. There's nothing macho, there's 01:20:42.489 --> 01:20:45.550 nothing tough about going to sleep. Any 10 -year 01:20:45.550 --> 01:20:48.250 -old girl in a slumber party can do it. The professional 01:20:48.250 --> 01:20:51.229 thing is to manage your sleep. And so the aura, 01:20:51.270 --> 01:20:53.289 the Fitbit is where you should begin. And there's 01:20:53.289 --> 01:20:56.449 one trend of sleep maxing. There's a couple of 01:20:56.449 --> 01:20:59.029 articles on how the big thing is to sleep max, 01:20:59.210 --> 01:21:01.989 and it's good. It's one of the very good things 01:21:01.989 --> 01:21:04.250 happening out there. And they all get all these 01:21:04.250 --> 01:21:06.409 little sleep tests, and they're wearing their 01:21:06.409 --> 01:21:08.670 aura, and they're tracking their sleep, and they're 01:21:08.670 --> 01:21:11.289 using a sleep mask, and they're doing little 01:21:11.289 --> 01:21:13.510 doses of melatonin, seeing what works in this 01:21:13.510 --> 01:21:16.729 whole community out there. They're doing that. 01:21:16.810 --> 01:21:19.350 It's the trend. It's sleep max, and it's a good 01:21:19.350 --> 01:21:21.270 thing. It's something we desperately, desperately 01:21:21.270 --> 01:21:25.399 need across our entire civilization. Absolutely. 01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.340 Well, I'm going to use that as a segue to therapy 01:21:28.340 --> 01:21:33.760 dogs. But my wife's just about to graduate optometry 01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:35.420 school, but she's been an optician for years 01:21:35.420 --> 01:21:38.039 before that. And I was visiting her because she's 01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:39.779 doing some work on the weekends at the moment. 01:21:40.020 --> 01:21:42.220 And I think it was Ray Bans. I might be wrong, 01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:44.380 but they've actually got these new glasses now. 01:21:44.909 --> 01:21:47.189 that have hearing aids built in. So they're obviously 01:21:47.189 --> 01:21:49.630 not going to be quite as good as the ones that 01:21:49.630 --> 01:21:51.630 are actually in your ears. But I thought that 01:21:51.630 --> 01:21:53.229 was kind of interesting. So I'm assuming there's 01:21:53.229 --> 01:21:55.510 a mic on the front and then it amplifies it on 01:21:55.510 --> 01:21:57.649 the arm so that you don't have to always wear 01:21:57.649 --> 01:21:59.590 the hearing aids. So I don't know if you've seen 01:21:59.590 --> 01:22:01.369 that before we go to the dog. I thought that 01:22:01.369 --> 01:22:03.430 was an interesting thing to put in there. My 01:22:03.430 --> 01:22:05.590 hearing aids are making them work. Hey, you know 01:22:05.590 --> 01:22:08.250 what? Here's the thing. One of the best things 01:22:08.250 --> 01:22:11.470 we could possibly do is get somebody a service 01:22:11.470 --> 01:22:14.460 dog. The thing about the service dog, You are 01:22:14.460 --> 01:22:22.119 never alone. Dogs are a pack animal. Dogs are 01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:24.979 not meant to be alone. And we're not meant to 01:22:24.979 --> 01:22:29.199 be alone. Look, one person in prison alone is 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:34.020 torture. It's torture. Two people in prison are 01:22:34.020 --> 01:22:39.420 normal. They can do that indefinitely. And one 01:22:39.420 --> 01:22:42.960 dog alone is solitary confinement. You are torturing 01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:46.869 that dog. If you leave one dog at home, it's 01:22:46.869 --> 01:22:50.989 torture. It's terrible. You got two dogs leaving 01:22:50.989 --> 01:22:53.289 at home, hey, they're good to go. But we're the 01:22:53.289 --> 01:22:56.409 same way. We're not meant to be alone. And that 01:22:56.409 --> 01:22:58.109 dog is always with you. They go to the bathroom 01:22:58.109 --> 01:22:59.350 with you. They go to the restaurant with you. 01:22:59.390 --> 01:23:01.710 They get on the plane with you. So I want to 01:23:01.710 --> 01:23:04.689 introduce you, my little service dog here. Hey, 01:23:04.710 --> 01:23:06.310 Charlie. He's been sitting here for the last 01:23:06.310 --> 01:23:09.489 hour and a half. And little Charlie here. Hey, 01:23:09.550 --> 01:23:11.250 say hi to everybody, Charlie. Charlie's got a 01:23:11.250 --> 01:23:13.180 white streak down the front, see? Turn him upside 01:23:13.180 --> 01:23:16.560 down, he's just gone. But he's nine pounds. He's 01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:19.500 a little shy, and he's my little service dog. 01:23:19.699 --> 01:23:21.739 You saw him sit in my lap quietly for the last 01:23:21.739 --> 01:23:25.680 hour and a half. We got this sling, and Charlie 01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:29.300 travels with me, and he's kind of chill. He walks 01:23:29.300 --> 01:23:31.119 around. He's got one arm hanging out there and 01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:33.640 chill. We go on the airport. We go on the airplane. 01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:37.720 Here's what Charlie does for me. Charlie is what's 01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:41.000 called a hearing dog. I've got pretty significant 01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.699 hearing loss and you can't sleep with your hearing 01:23:43.699 --> 01:23:49.300 aids on. So Charlie lets them know when the alarm 01:23:49.300 --> 01:23:51.680 goes off in the morning. He lets them know somebody's 01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:53.939 knocking on the door. Recently I was in the shower 01:23:53.939 --> 01:23:56.199 and the phone goes off and Charlie's barking 01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:58.000 and he barks, let me know something's happening. 01:23:58.539 --> 01:24:01.779 Now he's not quite, he'll be two years old in 01:24:01.779 --> 01:24:05.520 a month or two. So he's still pretty young and 01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:07.800 he's equivalent of a 14 year old kid, right? 01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:11.159 The one thing Charlie, he rides on planes, he's 01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:13.619 chill, he just hangs around, he loves what he's 01:24:13.619 --> 01:24:17.920 doing. And Charlie is just rolling with it out 01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:22.560 there. Now, here's the thing. Most service dogs 01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:26.739 are a Rolex. It costs $10 ,000, $20 ,000, $30 01:24:26.739 --> 01:24:29.560 ,000. And there's nothing wrong with having a 01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:33.039 Rolex, nothing wrong with selling a Rolex, but 01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:36.840 Charlie is a Timex. And what's wrong with that? 01:24:36.939 --> 01:24:40.420 You don't need to have some amazing, you know, 01:24:40.460 --> 01:24:44.420 school and $30 ,000 qualification. I mean, look, 01:24:44.460 --> 01:24:48.699 if you just have, you got a hearing loss and 01:24:48.699 --> 01:24:50.239 you have trouble getting up in the morning, you 01:24:50.239 --> 01:24:53.779 need a charter. A little eight pounds of awesome 01:24:53.779 --> 01:24:59.699 dude. And there's no federal regulation. He rides 01:24:59.699 --> 01:25:01.399 in the planes with me all the time. Now, he cannot 01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:05.100 sit quietly while I teach. Now, you can't sit 01:25:05.100 --> 01:25:08.079 there. He's still a kid. Give him another year 01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:09.619 or so, and we'll get him to that level, and then 01:25:09.619 --> 01:25:11.399 he can really travel with me and really come 01:25:11.399 --> 01:25:14.739 with me. I spent the last 26 years on the road, 01:25:14.840 --> 01:25:17.800 hotel rooms alone every night, straight arrow, 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.479 in the room every night, and we're not meant 01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:23.659 to be alone. So it's really, really cool when 01:25:23.659 --> 01:25:26.399 Charlie can travel with me. It's really a good 01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:28.859 thing. And everybody loves him, and they say 01:25:28.859 --> 01:25:32.039 hi. Most service dogs, they're working, and they 01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:33.890 don't want you to panic. Charlie's different. 01:25:34.229 --> 01:25:36.710 He wakes me up in the morning and then he goofs 01:25:36.710 --> 01:25:40.270 off for the rest of the day. And so we got him 01:25:40.270 --> 01:25:44.390 a service dog, asked to pet. Now, the only form 01:25:44.390 --> 01:25:47.170 ever needed to fill out is to get on an airplane. 01:25:48.109 --> 01:25:50.890 And it is U .S. Department of Transportation 01:25:50.890 --> 01:25:55.390 service animal form. And there's no requirement 01:25:55.390 --> 01:25:57.729 to download it from the internet. Fill it out. 01:25:57.850 --> 01:26:01.640 Who did the training? I did. Can you assure us 01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:03.960 he's not going to pee on me? Yes, I've trained 01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:06.039 this puppy. Can you assure us he won't bother 01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:09.079 people? Yes, I can guarantee you. He sat here 01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:10.960 for the last hour and a half, and you barely 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:12.859 knew he was there. I carry him around in a little 01:26:12.859 --> 01:26:15.159 sling. Everybody loves him. They know him, and 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:18.239 he likes them, and it's a win -win in every way. 01:26:18.579 --> 01:26:20.779 So I guess the whole service dog thing in some 01:26:20.779 --> 01:26:24.039 ways is broken, because people need to understand 01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:27.300 that there's really a resource out there you 01:26:27.300 --> 01:26:34.670 can tap right into. There's many ways to go. 01:26:35.329 --> 01:26:37.729 I think keeping the dog small, doing what I do. 01:26:38.010 --> 01:26:40.189 And there's other dynamics. Think about where 01:26:40.189 --> 01:26:41.869 you need help and what the dog can do for you. 01:26:42.369 --> 01:26:45.510 But I'm 68 years old. My prayer is I can do it 01:26:45.510 --> 01:26:48.210 for another 20 years. And Charlie's one of the 01:26:48.210 --> 01:26:50.270 tools that can keep me going and keep my spirit 01:26:50.270 --> 01:26:52.869 up and get me out in the morning. Right now, 01:26:52.909 --> 01:26:54.750 I just set like three or four or five alarms. 01:26:55.369 --> 01:26:57.949 You know, when we talk about sleep, I tell people 01:26:57.949 --> 01:27:00.979 never touch that snooze button. You know, that 01:27:00.979 --> 01:27:05.659 snooze button instrument of torture. You know, 01:27:05.659 --> 01:27:08.260 hit the snooze, hit it again, hit it a third 01:27:08.260 --> 01:27:10.760 time. You just threw away 30 minutes of the day. 01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:14.739 You threw away 30 minutes of the day. The snooze 01:27:14.739 --> 01:27:17.399 button is an evil little button that makes you 01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:20.100 relive the worst part of every day over and over 01:27:20.100 --> 01:27:26.600 again. And seriously, just set the alarm. 601, 01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:30.439 602, 603, 604, 605. By the time you turn them 01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:33.680 off, you're up. And it comes back to self -discipline. 01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:36.640 Am I in charge of my body? Is my body in charge 01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:39.880 of me? The first thing I do is surrender my body, 01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:42.479 hit the snooze alarm. The first thing I do is 01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:44.619 take the hell charge of my life, roll out of 01:27:44.619 --> 01:27:47.720 bed, and rock and roll. I set that alarm, and 01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:49.039 I'm going to get out of the bed. But the guy 01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:50.899 that puts you to sleep at night is the same guy 01:27:50.899 --> 01:27:53.260 who gets you out of bed in the morning. And that 01:27:53.260 --> 01:27:56.520 snooze alarm is not our friend. And Charlie, 01:27:56.659 --> 01:28:00.100 he's no mercy. When the alarm goes off, hey, 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.500 buddy, come on, 10 more minutes. No way, dude. 01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:05.380 I got to shove my tongue in your ear again. Come 01:28:05.380 --> 01:28:07.020 on, get out the hole. No tongue, no tongue in 01:28:07.020 --> 01:28:12.659 the ear. So just everybody understand. Fill out 01:28:12.659 --> 01:28:14.439 the form yourself. Go to the airlines, go online, 01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:16.859 get the Department of Transportation Service 01:28:16.859 --> 01:28:21.039 Animal Air Transportation form. We've got American 01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:23.779 Airlines, and I've got an ID number. I'm telling 01:28:23.779 --> 01:28:25.500 him the ID number, and he's set and ready to 01:28:25.500 --> 01:28:27.859 rock. There's not some big magic. There's no 01:28:27.859 --> 01:28:30.060 reason why you have to spend $10 ,000, $20 ,000, 01:28:30.100 --> 01:28:32.000 $30 ,000. Now, good for you if you've got a Rolex, 01:28:32.180 --> 01:28:33.760 and good for you if you train and sell a Rolex. 01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:36.439 And don't have a dog that will embarrass us. 01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:38.680 They've got to have self -control. You've seen 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.680 Charlie sit here for the last almost two hours 01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:42.779 now, just chilled out, hanging out. That's what 01:28:42.779 --> 01:28:47.390 he is on airplanes, you know. But that's my service 01:28:47.390 --> 01:28:50.090 dog shtick, if you will. And if I could give 01:28:50.090 --> 01:28:53.069 everybody in the world a gift, I'd give them 01:28:53.069 --> 01:28:56.430 a Charlie. They care around everywhere. And you're 01:28:56.430 --> 01:28:59.569 never alone. And it's a good world. It's a good 01:28:59.569 --> 01:29:01.270 thing. And there's some good trends happening 01:29:01.270 --> 01:29:03.390 out there. You know, it's the worst of times. 01:29:03.409 --> 01:29:05.569 It's the best of times. In the midst of these 01:29:05.569 --> 01:29:07.529 terrible times, we've got medical technology 01:29:07.529 --> 01:29:10.390 saving lives. And we have wellness technology. 01:29:11.289 --> 01:29:13.310 One area of the wellness that I think should 01:29:13.310 --> 01:29:16.439 be expanded on. can be the idea that the circus 01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:20.079 dog doesn't have to be a Rolex. I bought this 01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:23.420 puppy for $1 ,000. Don't tell him, but he's a 01:29:23.420 --> 01:29:28.060 Timex. He thinks he's a Belgian Malinois. But 01:29:28.060 --> 01:29:31.420 he's a great little guy. Quick story about Charlie, 01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:37.239 right? I've got three dogs. Got an old, mellow 01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:41.689 chocolate lab who had... had five litters of 01:29:41.689 --> 01:29:43.949 pups, all of them screened to be service dogs. 01:29:44.109 --> 01:29:48.329 And then she became my wife's service dog. And 01:29:48.329 --> 01:29:50.989 she's just an old gray muzzled gal, sweet little 01:29:50.989 --> 01:29:53.750 lab. We've got another poodle, who's this guy's 01:29:53.750 --> 01:29:58.149 older sister, and Charlie. I'm walking down the 01:29:58.149 --> 01:30:00.090 street, got three dogs on the leash, and we're 01:30:00.090 --> 01:30:04.310 all just rolling along. And out of nowhere, around 01:30:04.310 --> 01:30:07.010 the corner, the Sherman Shepherd comes and locks 01:30:07.010 --> 01:30:10.270 onto Charlie's shoulder. And Charlie was like, 01:30:10.329 --> 01:30:14.569 and I had pepper spray, never without, you know, 01:30:14.569 --> 01:30:17.569 the basic tools. And, you know, I have a gun, 01:30:17.670 --> 01:30:21.050 I have pepper spray, I have quick clot, I have 01:30:21.050 --> 01:30:23.090 a tourniquet. Pulled out pepper spray, gave this 01:30:23.090 --> 01:30:25.649 guy a shot in the eyes, and boom, he's out of 01:30:25.649 --> 01:30:28.069 there. Charlie, yeah. And then two other dogs 01:30:28.069 --> 01:30:29.930 right behind him, these two medium -sized dogs, 01:30:30.050 --> 01:30:31.670 gave them a spray of pepper spray. Charlie, yeah, 01:30:31.710 --> 01:30:36.510 come on, I'll give you some more. So about a 01:30:36.510 --> 01:30:39.250 week later. Walking past the same place in the 01:30:39.250 --> 01:30:41.210 same street, these three dogs, they got out the 01:30:41.210 --> 01:30:42.729 back door. They were able to bust through the 01:30:42.729 --> 01:30:45.170 back door and come to get Charlie, right? Walking 01:30:45.170 --> 01:30:47.390 by, and here's these three dogs thumping on the 01:30:47.390 --> 01:30:49.609 glass and screaming and barking their life out. 01:30:50.109 --> 01:30:52.970 Now, his sister, called Gracie, and she's just 01:30:52.970 --> 01:30:54.970 like at a 45 -degree angle, get out of here. 01:30:55.449 --> 01:30:58.649 And the lab is like, so what? And Charlie's like, 01:30:58.710 --> 01:31:01.350 yeah, come on. We'll give you some more. Come 01:31:01.350 --> 01:31:05.869 on. Charlie's not a French poodle. He's a Belgian 01:31:05.869 --> 01:31:08.000 Malinois. But here's the thing, you know, one 01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:09.920 of the last part of the whole ingredient, for 01:31:09.920 --> 01:31:12.260 what it's worth, like, you know, I've got several 01:31:12.260 --> 01:31:15.319 books on the faith aspect of what we do. And 01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:17.560 one of the pillars of resiliency around the world 01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:22.180 is faith. And be able to hand things over to 01:31:22.180 --> 01:31:25.180 higher power, just respect it as one of the great 01:31:25.180 --> 01:31:28.760 dynamics. And I tell this every class, it's not 01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:31.579 about any religion. It's an existential question 01:31:31.579 --> 01:31:35.319 that every first responder is going to ask. Your 01:31:35.319 --> 01:31:39.470 job. is to go to every bad thing that happens. 01:31:40.090 --> 01:31:41.850 The worst thing that happens, you're going to 01:31:41.850 --> 01:31:45.409 be there. That's your job. And you can't help 01:31:45.409 --> 01:31:47.550 but ask the question. I think it's so terribly 01:31:47.550 --> 01:31:51.130 important. How could a loving God allow these 01:31:51.130 --> 01:31:53.529 terrible things to happen? And the answer is 01:31:53.529 --> 01:31:56.430 really, really important. Have you ever heard, 01:31:56.489 --> 01:31:58.630 if you really love something, let it go, it comes 01:31:58.630 --> 01:32:01.510 back at yours? That's how much God loves us. 01:32:01.829 --> 01:32:04.229 Every faith will tell you we're not God's puppets. 01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:07.800 He's not a helicopter parent that hangs over 01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:09.520 your head every minute of every day. He does 01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:14.340 answer prayer. He does intercede. But God lets 01:32:14.340 --> 01:32:16.220 us make our own decisions. He loves us enough 01:32:16.220 --> 01:32:19.939 to let us make our own decisions. A lot of people 01:32:19.939 --> 01:32:22.239 make really bad decisions. A lot of bad things 01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:24.600 happen. You say, God, why don't you do something? 01:32:24.659 --> 01:32:29.020 He said, I did. I sent you. And so a couple of 01:32:29.020 --> 01:32:32.270 my books, my book on spiritual combat. Got like 01:32:32.270 --> 01:32:35.010 500 five -star reviews on Amazon, touched a lot 01:32:35.010 --> 01:32:37.250 of lives with it. And the other one that's really 01:32:37.250 --> 01:32:41.350 pretty cool is this Bulletproof Marriage, 90 01:32:41.350 --> 01:32:43.789 -day devotional, 10 minutes a day, sheepdog and 01:32:43.789 --> 01:32:46.750 spouse, for all of our responders. And both of 01:32:46.750 --> 01:32:49.130 these are great, cool. Now, this was a Christian 01:32:49.130 --> 01:32:51.270 Book Award finalist. So all the thousands of 01:32:51.270 --> 01:32:53.149 books came out this year. This thing kind of, 01:32:53.149 --> 01:32:54.689 the Bulletproof Marriage, kind of floated to 01:32:54.689 --> 01:32:58.729 the top as a finalist. But, you know, when things 01:32:58.729 --> 01:33:02.149 go well, His tendency to take the credit for 01:33:02.149 --> 01:33:05.470 it. And Charlie might think he can take those 01:33:05.470 --> 01:33:07.949 dogs on again, but he can't do it without me 01:33:07.949 --> 01:33:10.390 standing behind him with the pepper spray. And 01:33:10.390 --> 01:33:14.069 in the end, we can't do it without God behind 01:33:14.069 --> 01:33:16.149 there giving us that extra boost, that extra 01:33:16.149 --> 01:33:19.390 bonus. And we give him the honor and the glory. 01:33:19.569 --> 01:33:21.569 And he gives us love and joy and peace and all 01:33:21.569 --> 01:33:24.390 the good things come with it. So that's kind 01:33:24.390 --> 01:33:27.050 of closing the loop. Charlie thinks he's a Balmoine. 01:33:27.390 --> 01:33:29.210 He needs to realize who it was that was really 01:33:29.210 --> 01:33:30.630 there and made it possible. Because he tries 01:33:30.630 --> 01:33:32.689 that without dad there with the pepper spray, 01:33:32.810 --> 01:33:35.270 it's going to be a bad day. And we all got to 01:33:35.270 --> 01:33:37.630 realize at some point or another, we got to understand 01:33:37.630 --> 01:33:40.050 that, you know, we're all going to die. Does 01:33:40.050 --> 01:33:43.649 that mean God failed? In the end, everyone dies 01:33:43.649 --> 01:33:46.350 physically. In the end, every nation falls over 01:33:46.350 --> 01:33:49.130 my dead body. In the end, our son will go out. 01:33:49.630 --> 01:33:53.550 But eternity continues. And God's greatest gift 01:33:53.550 --> 01:33:56.409 is not a few more years on this weary world. 01:33:56.989 --> 01:33:58.829 but not less suffering. His greatest gift is 01:33:58.829 --> 01:34:01.569 eternity in heaven. And we get ourselves focused 01:34:01.569 --> 01:34:03.449 in that direction. It can change things a lot. 01:34:04.189 --> 01:34:06.390 And the one thing that God tells us to do, our 01:34:06.390 --> 01:34:08.909 mission, is to love. What's the opposite of people 01:34:08.909 --> 01:34:12.130 love? How do we fight evil with love? Jesus said, 01:34:12.189 --> 01:34:15.409 a new commandment I give you, love others as 01:34:15.409 --> 01:34:18.550 I have loved you. And Jesus loved enough to die 01:34:18.550 --> 01:34:22.149 for us. Jesus said, greater love is no one than 01:34:22.149 --> 01:34:24.890 this, that they lay down their life for their 01:34:24.890 --> 01:34:32.000 friends. What manner of love is this? Probably 01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:33.439 he's got his nose in there getting a big drink. 01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:37.420 What manner of love is this? That men and women 01:34:37.420 --> 01:34:40.880 will die for strangers. What manner of love is 01:34:40.880 --> 01:34:43.920 this? That our first responders walk out the 01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:46.699 door every day and put their life on the line 01:34:46.699 --> 01:34:50.420 for people they never even met. Hear that verse 01:34:50.420 --> 01:34:53.000 one more time. Greater love is no one than this. 01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:56.020 That they lay down their life for their friends. 01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:58.819 But there are many ways to lay down your life. 01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:02.220 There are many ways to lay down your life. Because 01:35:02.220 --> 01:35:05.199 sometimes the greatest love is not to sacrifice 01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:10.300 your life, but to live a life of sacrifice. Do 01:35:10.300 --> 01:35:14.180 a dirty, dangerous, thankless job every day of 01:35:14.180 --> 01:35:16.140 your life to the utmost of your ability, because 01:35:16.140 --> 01:35:19.399 you know, if no one did, our civilization would 01:35:19.399 --> 01:35:22.840 no longer exist. So for you, James, who are leading 01:35:22.840 --> 01:35:26.560 the sheepdogs and the responders, and congratulations 01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:28.619 on the great podcast and the neat things you're 01:35:28.619 --> 01:35:30.079 doing. So good to be back on board with you. 01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:31.779 This all makes sense from your perspective now. 01:35:32.010 --> 01:35:34.670 Yeah, no, it does. But firstly, outside the door 01:35:34.670 --> 01:35:40.069 is a 60 pound German shepherd who I want to travel 01:35:40.069 --> 01:35:42.529 with. I've got to do the paperwork, but she needs 01:35:42.529 --> 01:35:44.289 a little bit more training to make sure that 01:35:44.289 --> 01:35:46.649 she is going to behave herself. She's an absolute 01:35:46.649 --> 01:35:49.689 sweetheart. I wanted to ask you this when I was 01:35:49.689 --> 01:35:54.029 listening to you on Conan's podcast. When we 01:35:54.029 --> 01:35:57.930 talk about the evolution of man, we always focus 01:35:57.930 --> 01:36:01.579 on technology. the wheel, you know, fire. I mean, 01:36:01.579 --> 01:36:03.479 obviously, as we progress through the industrial 01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:07.340 revolution, computers, I really feel like the 01:36:07.340 --> 01:36:09.979 evolution of man as a species is towards kindness 01:36:09.979 --> 01:36:12.260 and compassion. If you look at the old school, 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:15.340 you know, human interaction, it wasn't very New 01:36:15.340 --> 01:36:18.100 Testament at all. What is your perception of 01:36:18.100 --> 01:36:21.180 that? I think there's great evidence to support 01:36:21.180 --> 01:36:24.479 that. You know, there's a kind of, and he got 01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:25.960 me a little sideways on that, but he's right. 01:36:26.340 --> 01:36:31.130 We do archaeological work. on skeletons. And 01:36:31.130 --> 01:36:34.270 we can tell you what racial people died from 01:36:34.270 --> 01:36:37.250 violence. And we can go back and look at the 01:36:37.250 --> 01:36:40.029 skeletons 5 ,000 years ago and tell you that 01:36:40.029 --> 01:36:42.729 interpersonal human aggression was really, really 01:36:42.729 --> 01:36:46.170 high. The ratio of people who died from violence 01:36:46.170 --> 01:36:49.069 are really, really high. And we kind of brought 01:36:49.069 --> 01:36:50.449 that down. It's hard to wrap your mind around 01:36:50.449 --> 01:36:53.109 it. The terrible loss of life in World War I 01:36:53.109 --> 01:36:54.810 and World War II and all the other wars. But, 01:36:54.810 --> 01:36:57.539 you know, those were terrible. interludes. We 01:36:57.539 --> 01:36:59.340 had peace, and then we had war, and then more 01:36:59.340 --> 01:37:02.439 peace. It was really pretty good. And the great 01:37:02.439 --> 01:37:07.680 achievement is not understand that .001 who committed 01:37:07.680 --> 01:37:10.220 a murder today. I tell people, look at the 99 01:37:10.220 --> 01:37:15.020 .999999 who didn't kill anybody today. Explain 01:37:15.020 --> 01:37:18.380 that. Divorce, infidelity, layoff, traffic accidents, 01:37:19.020 --> 01:37:21.880 lifetime of provocation, less than one in 10 01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:24.739 ,000 will even seriously attempt to take a life. 01:37:24.819 --> 01:37:28.380 Explain that. So my follow -up book, we wrote 01:37:28.380 --> 01:37:30.859 the book on spiritual combat, and then the sequel 01:37:30.859 --> 01:37:35.880 is on spiritual warfare. And it was really kind 01:37:35.880 --> 01:37:37.739 of a cool book they put together. And on spiritual 01:37:37.739 --> 01:37:41.560 warfare, we talk about the evolution and the 01:37:41.560 --> 01:37:45.239 rules of rescue. Now, all the way throughout 01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:49.340 history, when a ship wrecks, it's called Every 01:37:49.340 --> 01:37:51.699 Man for Himself and the Devil Take the Hindmost. 01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:56.319 And then... It developed to men and women first. 01:37:57.039 --> 01:37:59.659 Now, that's a big deal. I'm sorry, women and 01:37:59.659 --> 01:38:05.020 children first. And there's actually, it was 01:38:05.020 --> 01:38:08.859 a British ship headed to India going down. And 01:38:08.859 --> 01:38:13.960 there was a British military unit who stood at 01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:18.260 attention and stood by while the women and kids 01:38:18.260 --> 01:38:20.159 were evacuated from the ship. And the ship went 01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:24.189 down and they died. And this was an amazing model. 01:38:24.310 --> 01:38:26.250 And again, this book, starting with non -spiritual 01:38:26.250 --> 01:38:29.609 combat and moving on to spiritual warfare, this 01:38:29.609 --> 01:38:32.550 amazing model of transitioning to women and children 01:38:32.550 --> 01:38:36.729 first. That's a big deal. But then it went further. 01:38:37.090 --> 01:38:40.630 It was called The Current Rules of Rescue. It 01:38:40.630 --> 01:38:43.989 says, it is the responsibility of the strong 01:38:43.989 --> 01:38:48.229 to protect the weak. It is the responsibility 01:38:48.229 --> 01:38:53.130 of the strong to protect. the weak. Now, that's 01:38:53.130 --> 01:38:57.369 a beautiful evolution of our civilization. And 01:38:57.369 --> 01:38:59.529 we transition from, you know, every man for himself, 01:38:59.770 --> 01:39:02.029 and devil take the hindmost, women and children 01:39:02.029 --> 01:39:04.630 first, and then this fundamental, powerful rule. 01:39:05.149 --> 01:39:07.350 It's almost like the golden rule, you know, you 01:39:07.350 --> 01:39:09.130 want others, you'd have them go on to you. It 01:39:09.130 --> 01:39:12.489 is the solemn, sacred responsibility of this 01:39:12.489 --> 01:39:15.189 strong, protective witch. And that's our first 01:39:15.189 --> 01:39:17.109 responders. That's who they are. That's what 01:39:17.109 --> 01:39:20.319 they do. And that's a beautiful thing. So on 01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:21.800 the other side of that conversation, because 01:39:21.800 --> 01:39:25.079 I agree 100%, I really feel like that is where 01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:29.119 we are trying to go as a species, as a humanity. 01:39:30.180 --> 01:39:36.319 The opposite of that, the threat to that, and 01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:38.939 we've seen it over and over and over again in 01:39:38.939 --> 01:39:41.039 history, which has created World War I, World 01:39:41.039 --> 01:39:46.130 War II, etc., is when the tyrannical few... rise 01:39:46.130 --> 01:39:48.789 and are allowed to divide the people start setting 01:39:48.789 --> 01:39:50.989 themselves against each other create a common 01:39:50.989 --> 01:39:53.789 enemy and then you know it doesn't matter whether 01:39:53.789 --> 01:39:57.010 it's covid or the defund movement or you know 01:39:57.010 --> 01:39:59.069 whatever it is we've seen it happen over and 01:39:59.069 --> 01:40:01.689 over again this is also happening in police and 01:40:01.689 --> 01:40:04.369 fire where tyrannical leaders are refusing to 01:40:04.369 --> 01:40:06.210 advocate for their people and there's a lot of 01:40:06.210 --> 01:40:10.649 cowardice and a lot of bullying how do we start 01:40:10.649 --> 01:40:14.250 making the shift away from that so that we collectively 01:40:14.250 --> 01:40:17.550 come together and can identify those people early 01:40:17.550 --> 01:40:20.329 so they don't rise to a position where they actually 01:40:20.329 --> 01:40:24.750 can negatively influence. That's the fundamental 01:40:24.750 --> 01:40:28.470 question for our civilization. It's the most 01:40:28.470 --> 01:40:30.149 important thing any human being will ever explore. 01:40:30.470 --> 01:40:33.029 How do we leave a better world for our children? 01:40:33.729 --> 01:40:36.210 How do we create a better world for our grandchildren? 01:40:36.970 --> 01:40:38.489 A lot of people trying out there, but you're 01:40:38.489 --> 01:40:41.189 right, tyrannical leadership. Those who oppress 01:40:41.189 --> 01:40:44.329 information, those who try to control the narrative. 01:40:45.050 --> 01:40:48.090 We've got the greatest level of freedom of information 01:40:48.090 --> 01:40:50.710 we've ever had. And we had to fight to get that. 01:40:50.909 --> 01:40:53.850 There was a fight to get freedom of information. 01:40:54.170 --> 01:40:56.270 And we wanted to control what people... We don't 01:40:56.270 --> 01:41:01.789 know how bad their narrative was twisted throughout 01:41:01.789 --> 01:41:05.720 history. Because... the losers never got to put 01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:08.220 their message across. Do you understand? But 01:41:08.220 --> 01:41:10.779 now, through the internet and podcasts, I think 01:41:10.779 --> 01:41:14.180 the podcast revolution is one of the greatest 01:41:14.180 --> 01:41:17.899 movements forward in our civilization. The people 01:41:17.899 --> 01:41:20.680 provide it, the people listen for it. You know, 01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:23.140 when I was a kid, there would be like three television 01:41:23.140 --> 01:41:25.920 networks, one or two newspapers in every town, 01:41:26.300 --> 01:41:29.619 maybe six national magazines. And if you didn't 01:41:29.619 --> 01:41:33.890 get on that, your story never got told. Well, 01:41:33.909 --> 01:41:37.409 today, we have all these podcasts. And rather 01:41:37.409 --> 01:41:40.270 than a five -minute blurb, you know, or a three 01:41:40.270 --> 01:41:42.489 -minute soundbite, you got the opportunity to 01:41:42.489 --> 01:41:44.630 sink deep, not just that the podcasts are given, 01:41:44.770 --> 01:41:47.909 but that people are seeking them. And they're 01:41:47.909 --> 01:41:50.729 seeking greater depth of information and wider 01:41:50.729 --> 01:41:53.670 bit of knowledge. We can look at Wikipedia, you 01:41:53.670 --> 01:41:55.270 know, with, you know, we're trying to, we're 01:41:55.270 --> 01:41:57.430 going to censor these people. And then, oh, no, 01:41:57.470 --> 01:41:59.970 we got this idea of, well, we'll let it be known 01:41:59.970 --> 01:42:02.489 how many people in the community said this is 01:42:02.489 --> 01:42:05.609 baloney. And get that whole dynamic in place. 01:42:05.670 --> 01:42:07.489 That's a major movement forward. And not just 01:42:07.489 --> 01:42:10.069 the information, but the feedback on the information. 01:42:10.850 --> 01:42:14.689 And this podcast and the great people listening 01:42:14.689 --> 01:42:16.729 to it. That's part of the equation right there. 01:42:17.550 --> 01:42:20.369 So hopefully that kind of answers the question. 01:42:21.710 --> 01:42:24.810 This guy here is Charlie. He's so mellow. He's 01:42:24.810 --> 01:42:27.489 so cool. His big sifter is having a little fit 01:42:27.489 --> 01:42:29.310 somewhere on the other side of the house. That 01:42:29.310 --> 01:42:31.609 little chirping noise, that's not a bird. That's 01:42:31.609 --> 01:42:34.819 a dog. That's not much of a dog. Here's a dog. 01:42:35.020 --> 01:42:37.720 Charlie, it's a Malmo, ready to go play. But 01:42:37.720 --> 01:42:40.420 don't worry about that sound. Go to that man 01:42:40.420 --> 01:42:44.939 behind the curtain. And so this evolution can 01:42:44.939 --> 01:42:47.619 be seen in so many ways, just to control the 01:42:47.619 --> 01:42:49.760 narrative. Who controls the narrative? The people 01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:53.439 control the narrative. Amazing. We have no idea 01:42:53.439 --> 01:42:56.220 how much the story has been pushed and manipulated 01:42:56.220 --> 01:42:59.579 across the centuries. Because it wasn't recorded. 01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:02.270 It wasn't captured. A hundred years from now, 01:43:02.350 --> 01:43:04.949 people will watch this podcast. The newspaper 01:43:04.949 --> 01:43:08.489 was the next day's garbage. But these podcasts 01:43:08.489 --> 01:43:11.550 stay there and are touched and influence lives 01:43:11.550 --> 01:43:14.750 for generations to come. It's a beautiful thing. 01:43:15.289 --> 01:43:18.329 It really is. It really is. I mean, that's what 01:43:18.329 --> 01:43:19.810 I always tell people. It's the gift that keeps 01:43:19.810 --> 01:43:21.970 on giving. I mean, you know, your first one was 01:43:21.970 --> 01:43:24.550 episode 27 and that's still available and you 01:43:24.550 --> 01:43:27.149 can listen to it today. So I think that's so 01:43:27.149 --> 01:43:29.649 incredible. And then you can watch. each of these 01:43:29.649 --> 01:43:31.850 guests as we go through the years you know how 01:43:31.850 --> 01:43:34.510 some of them were you know drowning in addiction 01:43:34.510 --> 01:43:36.909 in the first episode and now they're you know 01:43:36.909 --> 01:43:39.510 sober and i mean it's just you see these beautiful 01:43:39.510 --> 01:43:43.510 lines as well but the uh the overlapping and 01:43:43.510 --> 01:43:46.050 and the ability to go back and say yeah in 2016 01:43:46.050 --> 01:43:48.789 this was how i thought but now we've learned 01:43:48.789 --> 01:43:50.869 you know sleep deprivation is real i've changed 01:43:50.869 --> 01:43:52.930 the way i think slightly on certain things so 01:43:52.930 --> 01:43:56.760 i think that that you know that layering of these 01:43:56.760 --> 01:43:59.439 conversations and the ability to say, all right, 01:43:59.479 --> 01:44:02.520 there's an evolution now of the way we think. 01:44:02.739 --> 01:44:06.279 You're not wishy -washy. You're not contradicting 01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:08.359 what you said eight years ago. You can actually 01:44:08.359 --> 01:44:11.140 watch how this whole thought process changed. 01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:14.500 I think that's very healthy. And movement in 01:44:14.500 --> 01:44:17.140 this community is frustrating. We talk about 01:44:17.140 --> 01:44:22.039 50 laboratories of democracy, but we have well 01:44:22.039 --> 01:44:26.409 over 1 ,000, like 1 ,500. police chiefs, 1 ,500 01:44:26.409 --> 01:44:33.729 sheriffs who only answer to the voters once every 01:44:33.729 --> 01:44:38.810 four years. And then we have like 15 ,000 police 01:44:38.810 --> 01:44:42.630 chiefs who only answer to the locally elected 01:44:42.630 --> 01:44:47.750 leadership. We're not 50 leverage force of democracy 01:44:47.750 --> 01:44:51.989 when we talk about fire and EMS and cops. We're 01:44:51.989 --> 01:44:56.560 20 ,000. laboratories for democracy. And progress 01:44:56.560 --> 01:45:00.100 is two steps forward and one step back. That's 01:45:00.100 --> 01:45:03.720 progress. And we've disseminated it. We let the 01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:07.140 local population decide. And it can be terribly 01:45:07.140 --> 01:45:10.460 frustrating, and yet it works. You know, I was 01:45:10.460 --> 01:45:14.479 in England a while back, and the English divided 01:45:14.479 --> 01:45:18.979 into like 40 different constabularies. And that's 01:45:18.979 --> 01:45:20.420 all there is. That's all there is. You know, 01:45:20.460 --> 01:45:22.979 that's it. That's the local cop, the county cop, 01:45:23.140 --> 01:45:26.300 everything. And even with the number one and 01:45:26.300 --> 01:45:28.460 number two guys at lunch one time, great guys. 01:45:28.739 --> 01:45:30.619 And he said, are you Americans? You elect your 01:45:30.619 --> 01:45:33.220 law enforcement leaders. I got to find some guy 01:45:33.220 --> 01:45:37.880 and elect him to be my dentist. That's pretty 01:45:37.880 --> 01:45:41.439 good. You got a point. I can respect that. But 01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:45.159 I said, you know, the truth is it works. You 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:49.029 got to respect the voters. Are they children 01:45:49.029 --> 01:45:53.649 who have to be manipulated? Are they adults who 01:45:53.649 --> 01:45:56.329 can make their own decision and get the law enforcement 01:45:56.329 --> 01:45:59.289 that they want to have? And rather than, you 01:45:59.289 --> 01:46:02.789 know, 40 constabularies all marching in footsteps, 01:46:03.010 --> 01:46:08.350 I like having 20 ,000 laboratories of democracy. 01:46:08.550 --> 01:46:12.210 And it's frustrating. Churchill said democracy 01:46:12.210 --> 01:46:14.130 is the worst form of government except for all 01:46:14.130 --> 01:46:17.899 the others. Democracy, as we look at it, or a 01:46:17.899 --> 01:46:20.720 public like ours, is the least worst option. 01:46:21.279 --> 01:46:23.619 And it's terribly frustrating, but it's progress. 01:46:24.060 --> 01:46:26.560 And for every department doing something stupid, 01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:28.840 there are two out there doing something right. 01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:32.159 The problem is, when that stupid cop gets caught 01:46:32.159 --> 01:46:35.359 on camera, and the world looks at it, everything 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:38.439 changes. The George Floyd incident should have 01:46:38.439 --> 01:46:41.819 taught us, better no cop than a bad cop. We saw 01:46:41.819 --> 01:46:44.520 the Memphis incident. in which six black cops 01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:47.680 just beat that kid to death and left him to die 01:46:47.680 --> 01:46:52.239 as he begged for help. Now, somehow in this weird 01:46:52.239 --> 01:46:54.380 twisted world we're in, because of black cops 01:46:54.380 --> 01:46:57.180 beating a black kid to death, somehow they didn't 01:46:57.180 --> 01:47:00.260 push the same button as George Floyd. But that 01:47:00.260 --> 01:47:03.119 was a disaster at every level. That was a leadership 01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:05.220 issue, a recruiting issue, and a training issue. 01:47:05.340 --> 01:47:08.920 It was a total failure. And one incident like 01:47:08.920 --> 01:47:10.920 that with the wrong dynamics, and we could pay 01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:13.869 a tragic, terrible price. Better no cop than 01:47:13.869 --> 01:47:16.250 a bad cop. We've got to hold our cops to the 01:47:16.250 --> 01:47:19.770 highest standard, and we've got to pay them to 01:47:19.770 --> 01:47:23.250 the highest level. The great challenge before 01:47:23.250 --> 01:47:28.270 us is to let people know how bad it is. The crime 01:47:28.270 --> 01:47:30.149 rate is, the murder rate's being held down by 01:47:30.149 --> 01:47:33.090 medical technology. It's a lie. We've got to 01:47:33.090 --> 01:47:35.010 know how bad it is, and then we'll start throwing 01:47:35.010 --> 01:47:37.569 money at it. We're a rich nation. Think wrong, 01:47:37.649 --> 01:47:41.779 we throw money at it. In World War II, we're 01:47:41.779 --> 01:47:44.859 the arsenal of democracy. Russia beat the Germans, 01:47:44.979 --> 01:47:47.260 but half their equipment came from us. We're 01:47:47.260 --> 01:47:50.319 the arsenal of democracy. In the Cold War, we 01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:53.000 outspent the Russians. In the pandemic, we threw 01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:55.140 trillions of dollars at it. When the American 01:47:55.140 --> 01:47:57.859 public begins to understand how stinking bad 01:47:57.859 --> 01:48:00.500 it really is, we'll start throwing money at this 01:48:00.500 --> 01:48:03.000 problem. And you'll see people doing this job, 01:48:03.199 --> 01:48:05.140 making the kind of money we could have never 01:48:05.140 --> 01:48:07.920 imagined, and they deserve it. My dad started 01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:12.060 in the beat in Cheyenne, Wyoming, 1962. No academy. 01:48:12.680 --> 01:48:15.060 Wyatt Earp didn't go to no stinking academy. 01:48:15.720 --> 01:48:20.239 Up until the 1970s, right up to the 1970s, the 01:48:20.239 --> 01:48:23.140 majority of American cops didn't go to an academy. 01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:25.840 During the 1970s, the majority of cops started 01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:28.539 going to an academy. Think of that. We came and 01:48:28.539 --> 01:48:30.840 got them bad and cut them loose. Imagine we still 01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:33.340 did that. Yeah, there's some kind of... I'm very, 01:48:33.500 --> 01:48:35.779 my dad got a walk. He was, my dad had been a 01:48:35.779 --> 01:48:37.380 military policeman. Oh, you ought to know the 01:48:37.380 --> 01:48:40.000 job. And, you know, he spent two years in the 01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:42.720 army as an MP, right? And then he walked with 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:44.439 an experienced cop. Yeah, this is your beat. 01:48:44.500 --> 01:48:46.180 This is where you go. We'll catch you. And that 01:48:46.180 --> 01:48:48.979 was it. But we got so much better training. It's 01:48:48.979 --> 01:48:50.680 so much better. And if you'd have told my dad, 01:48:50.779 --> 01:48:53.300 my dad was basically making minimum wage. I'm 01:48:53.300 --> 01:48:55.979 proud to get it. If you'd have told my dad that 01:48:55.979 --> 01:48:57.720 cops would make the kind of money they make today, 01:48:57.819 --> 01:48:59.720 allowing for inflation, he wouldn't have believed 01:48:59.720 --> 01:49:03.840 it. I'm telling you. In the years to come, the 01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:06.079 guy who decides whether or not to shoot your 01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:09.020 kid should be the best trained, best qualified 01:49:09.020 --> 01:49:12.600 person on the planet. And it's coming. And this 01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:15.619 job is just like a medical professional receiving 01:49:15.619 --> 01:49:18.640 that same level of training and respect and money. 01:49:18.920 --> 01:49:21.399 And that's the solution. It's coming down the 01:49:21.399 --> 01:49:24.039 road. It's the only answer. Throw money at the 01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:26.340 problem. But the people have to know. In the 01:49:26.340 --> 01:49:28.859 meanwhile, the media is covering up. They're 01:49:28.859 --> 01:49:34.359 lying. New York Times got an amazing chart. What 01:49:34.359 --> 01:49:37.359 happened in 2020 has no precedent. And then they 01:49:37.359 --> 01:49:39.739 buried it in a Sunday supplement, never mentioned 01:49:39.739 --> 01:49:42.100 again. They said, oops, that points a finger 01:49:42.100 --> 01:49:45.180 back at us. That's the George Floyd effect. Notice 01:49:45.180 --> 01:49:46.699 how the media has had this change. They're not 01:49:46.699 --> 01:49:48.920 showing George Floyd out there every day because 01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:51.720 the kids see it as real every day. They've changed 01:49:51.720 --> 01:49:53.579 their tune. Oh, we're going to defund the police. 01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:55.539 Might be a mistake. What do you know? Oh, wait, 01:49:55.699 --> 01:49:57.899 that's not working. Oh, that points a finger 01:49:57.899 --> 01:50:00.439 right back at us. So we'll censor that. But they've 01:50:00.439 --> 01:50:02.260 got blood on their hands. We're going to come 01:50:02.260 --> 01:50:05.100 out the other end. And I just have great faith. 01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:07.760 I'm 68. I'm going to stay in the fight for another 01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:10.539 20 years. Charlie's good for another 20 years. 01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:13.479 Little dogs live longer. He's good to go. So 01:50:13.479 --> 01:50:16.310 that's the plan. Have faith in our nation. Have 01:50:16.310 --> 01:50:19.170 faith in our way of life. Have faith in 20 ,000 01:50:19.170 --> 01:50:23.689 laboratories of democracy slowly, painfully dragging 01:50:23.689 --> 01:50:26.729 us to a better place in a better way. And you, 01:50:26.770 --> 01:50:28.409 my brother, and the people listening to this 01:50:28.409 --> 01:50:31.149 are part of the solution. I couldn't agree more. 01:50:31.310 --> 01:50:33.369 I'll end with this one kind of other thing to 01:50:33.369 --> 01:50:37.449 throw in there. To me, because we're a crisis, 01:50:37.569 --> 01:50:41.529 I am an incurable yet angry optimist. And I think 01:50:41.529 --> 01:50:44.279 there's no better time. to make change than now 01:50:44.279 --> 01:50:46.779 and i think with that 20 000 you could argue 01:50:46.779 --> 01:50:51.060 it's pretty similar with the fire yeah so what 01:50:51.060 --> 01:50:53.659 we can do as professions is actually start talking 01:50:53.659 --> 01:50:56.359 to each other we've we've waited for certain 01:50:56.359 --> 01:50:58.880 governing bodies and large organizations to be 01:50:58.880 --> 01:51:01.899 the communication tool And let's just say that 01:51:01.899 --> 01:51:04.340 some have done it okay, some have failed miserably. 01:51:04.460 --> 01:51:07.239 So when we come together, there's departments 01:51:07.239 --> 01:51:09.060 that already do things really well. You just 01:51:09.060 --> 01:51:11.140 have to have the humility to ask each other, 01:51:11.180 --> 01:51:13.640 what do you do well? What didn't work? But then 01:51:13.640 --> 01:51:16.960 even with the money side, if you actually proactively 01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:19.680 invest in your police departments, your fire 01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:22.699 departments, your EMS. the downstream savings 01:51:22.699 --> 01:51:25.340 are immense because now you're not paying the 01:51:25.340 --> 01:51:27.279 lawsuits. You're not paying the workman's comp 01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:29.939 claims and the overtime that's filling all these 01:51:29.939 --> 01:51:32.960 vacancies. So this is a beautiful thing. Invest 01:51:32.960 --> 01:51:36.239 now, even fiscally, it is sound when you have 01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:39.619 the best, that 10 % of that list wearing the 01:51:39.619 --> 01:51:43.260 uniform once again. And better no cop than a 01:51:43.260 --> 01:51:45.859 bad cop. Hey, you know, when we talk about wellness, 01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:47.300 one of the things you asked me to mention, I'm 01:51:47.300 --> 01:51:51.199 so happy. Yes. Please. I wrote on combat, on 01:51:51.199 --> 01:51:54.300 killing, on hunting. And then we had on spiritual 01:51:54.300 --> 01:51:57.420 combat. And those are four sides that all interact 01:51:57.420 --> 01:51:59.699 and reinforce each other. One of the healthiest 01:51:59.699 --> 01:52:02.260 things we can do. And one of the movements, you 01:52:02.260 --> 01:52:03.960 know, during the pandemic, hunting really took 01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:07.579 off. Hunting is increasing. And we talk about 01:52:07.579 --> 01:52:09.060 it. If you've got any questions, any thoughts 01:52:09.060 --> 01:52:11.300 whatsoever, if you're a hunter, listen to the 01:52:11.300 --> 01:52:13.439 audio. All three authors are in the audio. The 01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:17.119 audio has a, the audio book for this, the audio 01:52:17.119 --> 01:52:19.600 has an outtake reel. It's the funniest thing 01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:22.460 you'll ever hear. And, you know, sit in your 01:52:22.460 --> 01:52:24.079 deer stand, wherever you are, sit in that duck 01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:27.739 line, listen to the audio of on hunting and you'll 01:52:27.739 --> 01:52:30.899 have a great time. This is another dynamic forward. 01:52:31.300 --> 01:52:35.300 What we really understand, if we, as a species, 01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:39.939 existed for 24 hours, right up until the last 01:52:39.939 --> 01:52:43.380 six minutes, all we did was hunt. We were hunter 01:52:43.380 --> 01:52:45.380 -gatherers. What we're wired to do, it's what 01:52:45.380 --> 01:52:48.890 we're made to do. And the peace of the wilderness, 01:52:49.229 --> 01:52:52.430 the quiet, the interlude, putting yourself in 01:52:52.430 --> 01:52:55.029 the food cycle dynamics, all the wellness that 01:52:55.029 --> 01:52:57.310 comes out. This is a revolutionary book. And 01:52:57.310 --> 01:52:59.590 we've gotten great response, but we cannot get 01:52:59.590 --> 01:53:01.949 the word out at the national level. Once again, 01:53:02.010 --> 01:53:04.850 they're not going to talk about that. So it tells 01:53:04.850 --> 01:53:07.670 you that hunt, I believe the single best way 01:53:07.670 --> 01:53:10.829 to prepare for combat is hunting. If you don't 01:53:10.829 --> 01:53:12.930 hunt, try it. Go with your friends or two, see 01:53:12.930 --> 01:53:15.409 what it's about. So many things, you know, like 01:53:15.409 --> 01:53:18.380 my grandson. went to deer camp with us. Now, 01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:20.119 he's in the Army, the political weight right 01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:22.279 now. He was seven years old. He went to deer 01:53:22.279 --> 01:53:24.279 camp, came home a week later, got out of school 01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:26.640 for a week, dropped me in dirty. His mom said, 01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:29.260 what'd you like the best? He said, gutting the 01:53:29.260 --> 01:53:33.340 deer. For a seven -year -old boy, what was inside 01:53:33.340 --> 01:53:36.439 that deer was fascinating. Hey, look, this is 01:53:36.439 --> 01:53:38.319 the heart. It's the liver. It's the kidneys. 01:53:38.859 --> 01:53:40.960 There's the lungs. You got the same stuff inside. 01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:43.579 You smell the same inside. When we took the back 01:53:43.579 --> 01:53:45.970 strap off, we slapped on the grill. put some 01:53:45.970 --> 01:53:49.930 barbecue sauce on it. And that critter was food 01:53:49.930 --> 01:53:52.989 in your stomach right now. And you understood 01:53:52.989 --> 01:53:55.949 that for you to live, things have to die. And 01:53:55.949 --> 01:53:58.550 we harvest them at the end of the life cycle. 01:53:58.909 --> 01:54:01.390 We're the biggest rack and the biggest. We harvest 01:54:01.390 --> 01:54:03.829 them at the end of the life cycle. And we protect 01:54:03.829 --> 01:54:06.930 the game and we protect the wild land. And then 01:54:06.930 --> 01:54:09.989 the only other place, what happens in combat 01:54:09.989 --> 01:54:11.850 is auditory exclusion. You don't hear the shot. 01:54:12.010 --> 01:54:14.460 Ears don't ring. The only other place where that 01:54:14.460 --> 01:54:17.439 happens is when you're hunting. You know, cops, 01:54:17.539 --> 01:54:21.079 they got a deer that's been hit and suffering 01:54:21.079 --> 01:54:23.760 on the side of the road. Cop goes to shoot that 01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:27.579 deer, their ears rent. They're not hunting. You're 01:54:27.579 --> 01:54:30.000 hunting, and the hunting neurons are fired up, 01:54:30.079 --> 01:54:32.539 and it's what we're built to do. It's what we're 01:54:32.539 --> 01:54:35.000 designed to do. You don't hear the shot. You 01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:38.279 are still getting hearing loss. The shutouts 01:54:38.279 --> 01:54:40.569 in the nervous system. Wearing protection when 01:54:40.569 --> 01:54:41.930 you hunt, you'd be a devil. These little kids 01:54:41.930 --> 01:54:44.489 are a pain in the butt. But I appreciate the 01:54:44.489 --> 01:54:46.050 mention up front. Hey, let's mention On Hunting, 01:54:46.130 --> 01:54:48.810 Dave, because it's one of the best wellness dynamics 01:54:48.810 --> 01:54:52.069 possible. Just the peace of the wild of sitting 01:54:52.069 --> 01:54:53.949 and waiting and doing what we were designed to 01:54:53.949 --> 01:54:56.810 do and touching base on all that. You want to 01:54:56.810 --> 01:54:59.130 defend it, want to learn about it. My book On 01:54:59.130 --> 01:55:02.390 Hunting. What was it after all these years that 01:55:02.390 --> 01:55:05.250 made you dive into that subject? I've always 01:55:05.250 --> 01:55:08.689 wanted to do that one. And I had a great co -author. 01:55:09.159 --> 01:55:12.399 who was wired to work it with me, and then her 01:55:12.399 --> 01:55:16.340 husband. Really, Linda Miller is just an amazing 01:55:16.340 --> 01:55:20.060 lady. They run one of the biggest range and training 01:55:20.060 --> 01:55:28.760 facilities in Canada. And it's the MILCON, M 01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:31.300 -I -L -C -U -N. So first three letters are both 01:55:31.300 --> 01:55:33.060 in it. It's the MILCON Training Center, M -I 01:55:33.060 --> 01:55:37.699 -L -C -U -N, Training Center in... Northern Canada, 01:55:37.819 --> 01:55:40.340 amazing things going on. We wrote this book together. 01:55:40.439 --> 01:55:41.920 She's incredible. So I had the right people. 01:55:41.960 --> 01:55:44.140 I had the right time. I got a publisher who's 01:55:44.140 --> 01:55:46.819 willing to support us. I kind of let the publisher 01:55:46.819 --> 01:55:48.600 down. We didn't get the sales we were hoping 01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:51.140 to get, but I still think that there's enormous 01:55:51.140 --> 01:55:53.039 potential to take off. I still want to get in 01:55:53.039 --> 01:55:58.119 Joe Rogan someday. He's a hunter. Any of y 'all 01:55:58.119 --> 01:55:59.659 know Joe Rogan? Let him know, hey, Grossman's 01:55:59.659 --> 01:56:01.359 read all these amazing books. Needs to be on 01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:04.319 your show. But in the meanwhile, I think I've 01:56:04.319 --> 01:56:07.340 written the definitive book on the subject. truly 01:56:07.340 --> 01:56:10.479 and it's a great satisfaction and it's a along 01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:12.800 with killing can't understand killing with unrest 01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:15.239 and they're hunting and combat they all work 01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:17.539 together and then the spiritual aspect brings 01:56:17.539 --> 01:56:19.800 them all together who we are and what we do and 01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:21.699 i think i may have left the world a little bit 01:56:21.699 --> 01:56:24.420 better a little bit wiser place by virtually 01:56:24.420 --> 01:56:26.300 leaving those books behind you know down the 01:56:26.300 --> 01:56:29.500 road have you been on jocko's podcast jocko willing 01:56:29.500 --> 01:56:32.100 no see that would be a good one and then cameron 01:56:32.100 --> 01:56:34.239 haynes another one that i think he's got a big 01:56:34.239 --> 01:56:37.199 podcast I love doing them. We keep pinging people 01:56:37.199 --> 01:56:39.399 like that, but they get people pinging them, 01:56:39.420 --> 01:56:42.439 you know, thousands every day. You get an inside 01:56:42.439 --> 01:56:44.140 track, let them know Grossman's here. It'll be 01:56:44.140 --> 01:56:46.840 a lot of fun. And if they want Charlie, Charlie 01:56:46.840 --> 01:56:50.060 will be on board or not. He just chilled out. 01:56:50.819 --> 01:56:54.760 And we'll be on board if you need him. And meanwhile, 01:56:55.060 --> 01:56:59.160 God bless you. God bless America. Beautiful. 01:56:59.160 --> 01:57:01.300 Well, just before I let you go, for people listening, 01:57:01.500 --> 01:57:03.819 where are the best places to find all the books, 01:57:03.880 --> 01:57:07.220 learn about you, or maybe get you to speak? I'm 01:57:07.220 --> 01:57:09.739 a terrible salesman. I always forget. My website 01:57:09.739 --> 01:57:13.899 is GrossmanOnTruth .com. Everything's on one 01:57:13.899 --> 01:57:15.239 place. You've got the books there. You can go 01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:17.199 to Amazon and get them too if you like, but we'll 01:57:17.199 --> 01:57:20.060 personalize them for you. GrossmanOnTruth .com. 01:57:20.159 --> 01:57:22.920 The truth on killing, the truth on hunting, Grossman 01:57:22.920 --> 01:57:27.479 on Truth. lay me on to speak. It's so good to 01:57:27.479 --> 01:57:31.039 be able to train with school districts and EMS 01:57:31.039 --> 01:57:35.640 and cops. I was just able to bring them all a 01:57:35.640 --> 01:57:37.600 piece of the puzzle and to leave them all better 01:57:37.600 --> 01:57:39.479 and stronger and better prepared. It's a good 01:57:39.479 --> 01:57:40.680 feeling. I want to keep doing it for another 01:57:40.680 --> 01:57:43.420 20 years. Beautiful. Well, I want to thank you 01:57:43.420 --> 01:57:45.859 so much. It's been another incredible conversation. 01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:48.359 We went to some new and interesting places and 01:57:48.359 --> 01:57:51.060 I'm excited to read on hunting because I'm not 01:57:51.060 --> 01:57:53.840 a hunter, but I grew up on a farm. So I came 01:57:53.840 --> 01:57:56.920 from that background before. But I mean, the 01:57:56.920 --> 01:57:59.199 psychological, you know, spiritual side of that, 01:57:59.239 --> 01:58:01.619 I think will be fascinating too. So thank you 01:58:01.619 --> 01:58:04.100 so much for coming on the show. My pleasure. 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:06.560 It's iron sharpens iron. It's a two way street. 01:58:06.739 --> 01:58:08.220 God bless you, buddy. God bless you.