Welcome guys to episode 176 of Behind the Shield podcast.
My name is James Geering and this week I am delighted to bring to you
Diamond Dallas Page. Now, obviously you will recognize him as the wrestler,
but for many people they would have seen a video the last few years with Arthur
Borman, who was a paratrooper who'd hurt his back, put on a lot of weight,
was on crutches and found DDPY, Diamond Dallas Page's
yoga system, worked through it, ended up reversing his back pain,
being able to run, lost all the extra body weight,
just a complete transformation that I think have most people in tears, to be honest.
So I wanted to reach out to Diamond Dallas and actually ask about this and learn
about his system and the challenge that he's just put out and the books that he
just released. So we discuss all these areas. Now, just as a preface,
a lot of times I'm able to get someone in a studio on Skype or face to face.
This one was through Skype on a telephone,
so the quality isn't as good as some of the episodes. Just understand,
that's the reason there's nothing wrong with what you're listening through.
It's just this particular conversation was done through a cell phone.
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Every week we're getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
And that means that more and more people are learning from all these incredible
guests that we have. And that is my ultimate goal. So that being said,
I introduce to you Diamond Dallas Page. Enjoy.
I want to say thank you so much for coming on to the Behind the Shield
podcast. I have followed you ever since watching Arthur's video,
which we'll get into in a little bit.
I heard your interview on Joe Rogan that was fantastic as well.
And then watched the Resurrection of Jake the Snake.
So I obviously, like most people thought that you were a wrestler
and that was kind of the the center of the universe.
But then obviously learned about your yoga and everything else.
And I'm very excited to explore that world that you found yourself now.
So where are we finding you today?
Actually, I just left the DDP Yoga Performance Center
and I've been doing so many promos because of our new book that dropped
Positively Unstoppable, The Art of Owning It.
Where are you located at? Where are you doing your podcast from?
I'm in Ocala, Florida. So a couple of states south of you.
OK. Yeah. What national?
Yeah, what national? We took it off with this DDP
yoga style that we do, which is we've got together a really great
promotion and challenge around the book.
And so the book's called Positively Unstoppable.
And the contest or the challenge is the Positively Unstoppable Challenge,
which we're going to take people all over North America, from Canada
and the United States, whoever gets involved in our challenge.
If they go to DDP, it's not it's Positively Unstoppable dot com.
They can sign up and we're going to pick two people, two finalists
who has whoever has the best physical transformation
and mental transformation.
We're going to bring them to Atlanta, GA, put them up at the Accountability Crib
and give them a chance to win a million dollars.
Brilliant. All right. Well, you said the Accountability Crib.
So explain what that is.
Obviously, I've been exposed to it through the documentaries.
But what is the Accountability Crib?
And why did you even start one in the first place?
Well, you know, it was my home.
I just literally moved in. I moved from L.A.
I was over 10 years and I was never really a fan of L.A.
Too many plastic people.
And it just it just didn't work for me.
And I lived in Atlanta for 13 years where I was wrestling.
And I loved it.
Loved the people. My daughters were here.
And some of my good buddies were here.
So I moved back a little over seven years ago.
And when I moved in, I brought Jake Roberts with me.
He came from Texas.
And Jake was, you know, as low as he could be at that moment
and helped him literally kick out and turn his life around along the way.
So, Razor Ramone, aka Scott Hall, you know, he came and, you know, moved in as well.
And about two months in, I had reached out to a lot of the people who do my program.
And right now, I'm in the process of branding DDP Yoga DDPY.
Why? Because I want to get people to understand it's not just yoga.
So I don't want people to call it just yoga. It's not.
I never developed it for yoga.
I developed it for people who wouldn't be called dead-booting yoga.
Like Diamond Dallas Page, Jake St. Roberts, Razor Ramone, you know, just to name a few.
But when I was reaching out to all the people who do my program,
I said, you know, Jake's moving in with me.
We're attracted. And we're going to see.
You know, you want to make them, you know, we're going to see how well he does.
And I said, I'm looking for a name for my house.
And a girl named Christina Ann, who's a friend of mine,
been involved in a program for about eight years.
She gave me a list of names.
And one of them was the Accountability Crib.
And I thought that's exactly what this place is.
Because, you know, you can't do anything without being accountable.
You're going to make the wrong move.
You got to own up to it and own it, you know.
So that's how it got named today.
The Accountability Crib is an Airbnb.
You know, I, yeah, since then, I've actually moved out and got another home.
But I own this home.
So I thought, well, I could rent it out.
Or I could, you know, transfer the rooms into like the Razor Ramone suite,
the DDP suite, and, you know, the Jake's Steak Suite,
and let people come in and, you know, like move in for a night, a week, a month.
And like our DDP, the Deployment Center is literally, you know,
like three quarters of a mile from where the actual, where the crib is.
So bottom line is, you know, it all works.
It's kind of like one thing feeds another.
And now the Accountability Crib is, people are coming in, they're staying for a night,
or they might come in for a week and, you know, try to dial in on, you know,
setting goals and stuff.
So it's pretty cool.
Yeah. Well, what I found really, I connected with the documentary and your story
and, you know, the people that have kind of come across your radar, as it were,
was the profession that I'm in, firefighting and police officers and members of the military,
if you're a male specifically, you know, that's an alpha male.
That's a, you know, a manly profession, if you like.
And one of the observations I've made now as a 44-year-old man looking back
is some of the issues that we're seeing, whether it's, you know, depression, anxiety,
you know, God forbid, suicide, addiction.
Some of those are interwoven with the fact that we were sold with, like, a false image of what a man is.
And I think, you know, wrestling and the movies, you had the persona, you know,
you had your characters and these muscular superheroes, many of which went and did action movies,
you know, on stage were invincible.
And what I found interesting, and you find exactly the same thing in our professions,
is behind the scenes of that seemingly perfect, you know, man or woman are all these issues.
And when you pull the curtains back, you know, that's where you see all these real human mental and physical challenges going on.
So when did you first start seeing that amongst either yourself or your fellow wrestlers?
I think I've always seen that.
You know, I've never really, like, I've never really bought into the facade of what, you know,
you know, what people do for a living, you know, because, like you say,
you know, the alpha dogs will pick up and do some of the more manly stuff because that's just in our genes.
And then then you decide how strong that's going to be by what you decide your mindset is going to be.
But, you know, I've always seen that, you know, just as strong as those people can be, they can be just as equally weak.
And, you know, I think everybody has a breaking point, depending on what light happens to them.
But I think we all come down to owning whatever, you know, whatever whatever mask we decide to put on.
Like I've developed and created Diamond Downs Page.
Is it a part of me and of who I really am?
Absolutely. But, you know, I make myself accountable.
I, you know, I go by the creed and said no one's going to outwork me.
You might work as hard as me, but you're not going to outwork me.
So that's a, I don't know, a mental attitude.
And so when it comes down to people breaking down and as you go along, I think that's all just a part of life.
Yeah. Now, what were some of the issues that you're seeing in some of your, you know, your fellow wrestlers as far as challenges that you ended up helping with?
Um, you know, when we're young and invincible, we think that we're always going to be like that.
Even though we look at people who've done it before us and see they're crippled up.
But when you're young and, you know, undestructible, you don't think that's ever going to be you.
You see, when I got into professional wrestling at 35, starting at 35 was absolutely, you know, a real disadvantage because I was 35 and my body was a 35 year old man.
But there was also a lot of advantages that I wasn't going to be as stupid or crazy or daring as I might've been at 23.
So, um, as guys have gotten older, I mean, I just got the full bus bag.
Well, and he has had his third hip replacement to the same hip.
He's had shoulder replacements on his left shoulder twice and his right rotator cuff.
Yeah, I just was, you know, if I rotate her cup surgery, there was a time when I was 36 and he was 22.
And he bumped like crazy.
So would I, you know, in the way.
And he'd jump out, take a shower, get ready to go and he'd hit the clubs.
And I could be looking over him and I'm icing my knees and I'm icing my back.
I go, wow. I go, don't, aren't you ever sore?
Don't be like, he was indestructible.
Right now, I'm still 14 years older than him.
I'm 62. He's 47.
You can't do any of the stuff that I can do.
You know, so what I see as it moves along is I watch my buddies break down.
And even though they're great athletes in the day for what we did, they never had my work ethic.
Like if you knew all the things I did from the minute I wake up to the minute I go to sleep,
to hold back the hands of time, like I'll be 63 in April.
But I don't know, you know, Sylvester Stallone, Clint Eastwood, guys like that, you know,
they could hang with me, you know, at that age.
Both of those guys are much older, but when they were 63, they could hang with me.
But unless they're 63 or 53-year-olds, that ain't happiness.
And it's because I'm willing to put the work in.
Like my new book, Positively Unstoppable, I talk about putting the work in all the way through it.
And basically, I tell them in the first chapter, if you're not willing to put the work in,
put the book down and put it to work like leveling off your coffee table.
You know, at least get it to work in somewhere else for you.
You know, the opening line to the book is what would you do if you knew your success was a certainty?
In other words, what would you do if you knew you couldn't fail?
Like, anyway, most people can't imagine that.
You know, they can't imagine not failing or, you know, especially something super complicated.
If it's something that they do all the time, it's like, oh, I got this.
You know, but try doing something that you've never done before and enter with the same confidence.
Because, you know, we did a million-dollar challenge.
Like these people who join this conference, it's costing us ridiculous money.
But we've never done it before.
So we figured it out as we go along.
You know, we bring in the pros to help us actually run the content.
Because we don't want to do that, so we bring in professionals to do that.
And then we work our ass off getting the word out there and letting people know that
if you go to positivelyunstoppable.com, boom, you can sign up.
But there's no losers.
Like, oh, you don't win the million dollars.
Oh, you don't become a finalist.
There's no losers.
You start to get on a path to not just changing your life but owning your life.
And as the guys get older, they're way more apt to listen to what I have to say.
The guys who are younger are the guys who got it.
They're the guys who really will reap the reward.
You know, like Chris Jericho.
You know, Chris, he was back out when he was 41.
That was seven years ago.
I saw it.
I reached out to him.
I sent him Arthur's video, the disabled veteran.
Five minutes later, he called me.
He said, you tell me what to do.
I'll do whatever you say.
Now, his career is over in wrestling.
At least that's what they said.
And his career in singing, like, you can't move around.
He can't sing.
He can't hit high notes.
He's miserable.
Like, both careers, that he has become amazing in both, really are over.
After less, no, right around three months of work in my DDPUI program, he's not only
back in the ring, he's headlining WrestleMania.
That was seven years ago.
In January, three weeks, two weeks ago, he headlined the Tokyo Dome in Japan in the main
event, stole the show.
He's 48 to find a multi-million dollar deal at 48 with AEW, the brand new wrestling organization
that just started up.
He's the top seed of all the guys that bring it.
That's why he talks about my shit so much.
That's the guy who gets owning it.
I went to these podcasts Friday.
I think it was Friday.
Friday or Saturday.
We're going to put it in the can for next week.
It's so easy to talk to him about it all because he gets it.
He gave me credibility.
He gave me credibility that nobody could.
It's amazing.
There's another gentleman out there called Dr. Eric Goodman who started a movement practice
called foundation training.
It doesn't pretend to be yoga.
Literally, it's like a 10, 12 minute thing but it reverses the damage from sitting.
Just like yours, I did it after I hurt my back.
I healed my back in three months.
Healed to the point where I was lifting solid weight again, functioning as an even better
firefighter than I was before.
That's what is so mind blowing is there are practices like DDPY and foundation training
and these other movement practices or exercise modalities that work so well at reversing
injury and lowering weight and yet it's still such a hard sell to the average person that
just wants to get drugs even though we all know that most of the chronic medication prescriptions
just don't work.
Yeah, and it's funny because a lot of people because we're so programmed to go to see doctors
and then doctors giving us medicine.
And if you go back 50 years that seemed like a miracle.
You're like, oh, we're actually medicine at work.
But in the last 50 years, big pharma, my buddy Chris Bell did a documentary on it called
prescription thugs.
The whole prescription, take the medicine.
And most doctors eat like shit.
So they know nothing about nutrition, nothing.
I found in my life, I found three of them who actually know anywhere near as much as
I do about food.
Three.
I'm not saying there's not more, there's more, but not a lot because it's all about
take this prescription and food can really heal you.
Absolutely.
And like you said, the movement practice too.
And that's what I think is another area where they've really dropped the ball in areas of
medicine is, and you see this a lot in our professions because you get hurt, you go see
a workman's comp doc, and you see a person who again is not well versed in sports injuries
who just gives you some painkillers and some anti-inflammatories and then sends you off
to surgery a couple of weeks later.
And there's no understanding of the fact that true rehab, not rehab.
A lot of these facilities are great, but they're kind of getting geriatrics back to be able
to walk into their house again and get in the bathtub.
But there are movement practices out there that you can take an injury that's obviously
not completely detached quadricep or something, but these strains and back injuries, and you
can absolutely reverse it through yoga, through foundation training, through these movement
practices that are out there that compared to these surgeries are pennies on the dollar.
Yeah, right.
I thought, a Hulk, Hulk said, Hulk Hogan has had eight back operations I know about.
Once you step into that back operation, that's what Chris didn't want to do, and I saved
him from that.
And once you start cutting on your back, boy, whew.
So again, finding something like my program, or I'm sure there's others out there.
I just don't mind because that's what I do.
Now I'm actually waiting for my letter from Bart Oates, who's the president of the NFL
alumni, but I'm waiting to find out if, I hope it's going to be released this week.
There might be next week that we're going to be develop, we have a signed partnership
with the NFL alumni.
Oh, fantastic.
Yeah, that's a huge level of credibility.
So I'm just waiting, I've already got guys from the NFL doing it.
And they're getting the results and feeling better.
And that's what it's about.
Absolutely.
Well, I guess one question I need to ask so that you can kind of lead us down your own
journey is how did you first find yoga specifically?
And then what was the reason and how did you engineer it to become your own personal DDPY?
Excuse me, DDPY.
Well, first of all, it was necessity because I'm a guy who wouldn't be doing yoga the first
42 years of my life, but I didn't start wrestling until I was 35.
My career didn't take off until I was 40.
That was in 1996, 97 and 98.
I was on top of the world.
When you're on top of the world like that though, you're wrestling in the ring 270 to
300 days a year on top of your other schedule that gets programmed in.
And I would say 97 and 98, I was at 13 or 14, either main event pay per views or semi-main
event.
I just signed a multi-million dollar three year deal and then I blew my back out.
I actually ruptured my L4 and L5 and people can say what they want about professional
wrestling but one thing rings true, you can't fake gravity.
And the beating that we take on our bodies is ridiculous.
And I actually ruptured my L4 and L5 and I had three different spine specialists tell
me I was never going to wrestle again.
I just signed a multi-million dollar three year deal.
There was no way that I was believing that it was over.
So entry yoga into my life and man, I couldn't be any happier because in the first I'd say
three weeks I started to feel a significant difference.
And it was really helping but it wasn't giving me everything.
So one night before I crashed out I was doing my rehabilitation stuff.
I rehab both shoulder surgeries, both knee surgeries so I know a little bit about rehab
but I know a lot.
It's almost instinctively about breaking up scar tissue.
Now breaking up scar tissue is what helps create flexibility and alleviate pain.
So one night I started mixing rehabilitation techniques with the yoga positions.
I was like wow that works.
And I created a flow with that and then I was doing an old school calisthenics push
up squats, crunches and I had to do them through slow burn movement which means like a three
second push up or a five second push up.
I had to do it slow so I didn't hurt anything.
And then when I realized that I had that whole slow burn push ups and movement that every
time you flex or engage a muscle your heart has to be fast so you can put it through the
muscle.
So what I created completely by accident, something I call dynamic resistance and it
was the beginning of what today is known as DDP yoga or DDPY.
And what I ended up creating was a kick ass cardiovascular workout that could dramatically
increase my flexibility, strengthen my core at a whole other level all with minimal joint
impact.
In less than three months I was back in the ring.
At 42 they said my career is over and 43 is the heavyweight champ in the world.
So something like that I knew I not only was going to do the rest of my life, I knew it
was something I was going to have to do the rest of my life and just because of all of
the very terrible impact on my body.
And when you think about what you actually created here, I didn't just do it in the big
picture for me, I did it for cops, firemen and military.
You know, beat up broken down athletes but the cops and the firemen and the military
were the primary guys who were still like you're working your job.
How old are you now?
I'm 44 and I got a long way to go.
Yeah, 44.
One of my good friends started at 35.
So I knew that military guys beat up their bodies so much.
I worked out today with a lieutenant colonel, his name is Mark Zinno and when he was doing
the work, he worked in his heart rate with 72 and that's great to be a little nervous,
everybody's always like that when you're doing something new, but 72 is pretty damn good.
Within probably three minutes I had him up to 110 and then within another eight minutes
I had his heart rate at 147.
He worked in 74.
Yeah, that's intense.
He's not moving.
He's getting in, he's going through a movement but he's not, he's standing still and that
freaked him out.
And now he's a 20 year veteran and like his next deal is colonel and then general and
he was so floored by it, he's like, man, I got to get you over with and he mentioned
the general's name, he was like three miles from us.
He said, we need to be doing this because the military just put together, they've paid
CrossFit to come in, now the military's going to be doing CrossFit.
CrossFit is a great workout but it beats your body up so much unless you're super, super,
super strategic and tactical as you're doing it.
The littlest thing goes either way and these guys really beat the hell out of their bodies
enough.
What they need to be doing is GDPY so they can hold themselves together and deal with
the pain and the brutality they put their bodies through.
Yeah, you mentioned as well and I think this is something that needs to be underlined that
you have to do it every day and I think that's a misunderstanding that some of these movement
practices you do them and then you heal then you can stop again.
I found that with the things that I do.
If I do them every day, I feel incredible but it's not miraculously healing trauma.
So if you stop and you allow those imbalances to come back in, you're going to feel the
pain again, you're going to lose the mobility.
I would slap my ass off like somebody, I'll get a text from, God, it could be anybody
from Alistair Black to Drew McIntyre to go, God, and they'll go, D, I need something
to work on for my hips.
I go, your hips bothering you?
Yeah.
You stopped doing the program, didn't you?
Yeah, I'm doing as much as I should.
I'm like, dude, you know what you do for a living, right?
Right now I'm starting to work not just with the NFL alumni, I'm working with the guys
who are in the NFL.
So two of them are one is a linebacker named Brooke Shreed who plays for Falcons and the
other is the offensive guard, Ben Garland.
They both came to my house and worked out with me a couple of times.
They've got the app.
When you're living the dream at that level, making millions of dollars to play a game,
as much as I love those two guys, I've given them a lot of knowledge and they've taken
it in, but they don't get it yet.
I'm hoping that at some point they get all the things that I'm showing them that will
really help them because I want to see those guys play as long as they can and so do they.
When you can make three, four, five million dollars in a year, when you get out of the
professional league, that money disappears.
Yeah, exactly.
You said that they happen to be multimillion dollar earning NFL players, but every single
person on this planet inhabits a human body.
So that's what kills me.
You're talking about being in the 60s and still be able to do what you do.
And I see in the first responder setting, the ugly side of the ill health of a lot of
the developed countries that we all live in, where you have the mindset when people get
to 40 and have several medications that, well, I am 40.
It's like, yeah, you're 40.
There's people that live to be so many people live to be in their 90s and 100 these days.
So 40 isn't even halfway across the line yet.
And you've already given up on life.
And that mindset is just mind blowing because why would you not invest in your own health
to not only live a long time, but to have a high quality of life during those years?
I say all the time, I'm not preparing for 65.
That's going to be here tomorrow.
I'm prepared for 75, 85, 95.
And yes, 105.
I've got a hyperbaric chamber that's PSI level 12, which means it's 30 feet below sea levels
the pressure.
I'm breathing in pure oxygen.
Like when I wake up, I'm in the middle of a construction right now.
So I can't do it for about a month and a half.
But for the last six months, I roll out of bed, I'm home.
I take my phone, my iPad, I see them.
You also can't have any kind of friction or any kind of spark.
And you think, oh, what could happen to those?
I don't know.
That droid caught on fire.
Good point.
You know, you get a little spark in an oxygen tube, not a good thing.
So bottom line is, I have all the precautions I do, but it's a ceiling compression chamber.
Like there's nothing healthier than oxygen.
I also have a beamer, which is Kevin Nash turned me on to.
My hands were going so numb.
When I fell asleep, they'd wake me up and be so numb.
And then I had to bang them to get the blood flowing down.
So if I've been on that beamer every morning and every night, it stops happening.
Again, when you take your blood from moving bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop,
like running through your veins, your body's going to heal faster.
You're going to have more energy.
You're going to be more unstoppable.
I've got a cryo machine, I've got a hot tub, and I've just ordered an infrared sauna.
And it's like, oh my God, you've got so many things going.
It's like, yeah, because I'm going to try to show these players this is how you hold
back their hands at time.
And I don't think it's going to have the real effect for another three years.
The three years from now, people are going to say, dude, you're so far ahead of the curve.
Again, I'm just trying to make my life super comfortable.
Along the way, I'm going to tell people how to do it.
And the people are starting to see that.
The Hyperbaric Chamber, I think it was, I'm almost certain, I had Dan Severin on the show,
and I think Dan was talking about CBD, and I think Hyperbaric Chamber was the other thing
that he did as well, that he swear by.
And here he is, he's in his 60s and still wrestling to this day as well.
That's a bad son of a bitch, boy.
And I mean that in the ring, outside of it, he is a gentle teddy bear.
I love Dan Severin.
We were lucky enough to hook up a couple of times on the road, got to spend some quality
time with him.
Just an amazing individual.
Love being around him.
He's a guy who thinks like I do.
And he's a guy who is in his 60s, who's still unstoppable.
Yeah, yeah, and just so humble as well.
When we spoke, I mean, he's just like you said, just a complete gentle giant.
But God forbid you corner him in an alley somewhere.
Bad, bad, bad, bad move.
Yes.
Well, you mentioned Arthur Borman.
I want to just touch on that for a second because it's what introduced me to you and
who you are, but his story as well.
And I'm not going to lie.
I think I sobbed a little bit watching it the first two or three times too.
But I shared it again recently when we had first arranged to do this.
But if you wouldn't mind just telling people I haven't seen the video, I don't know how
you've missed it if you've got social media, but how Arthur first came to you and then
what his transformation was.
Back when Arthur and I hooked up, I just developed my first DVDs.
We wrote a book first to give us credibility and then being published, it just takes to
a different level.
And then our first DVDs, this is 2006.
And I put it out.
There was no inspirational stuff.
There was no eating plan, any of that because I didn't have that yet.
I didn't know how to put that together.
And I knew about food, but nothing like what I would end up knowing about.
But Arthur, anybody who literally invested in my program, I would send them an email.
And I would thank them for getting the program and say, I'm not trying to sell you anything.
You already invested and I want to thank you for believing in me.
But I also have five questions and Arthur's answers were just unbelievable.
And I said, hey, Broke, thanks for taking the time to do this.
It sounds like you need some help.
Can you tell me a little bit about yourself?
My clip notes were morbidly obese, disabled veteran, relegated to thinking of myself as
a piece of furniture.
And I was like, whoa.
I sent them back an email.
I said, send me some pictures so I know what I'm looking at.
And he sent me those pictures with his knee brace and the back brace and the wrap around
the canes.
And I was like, man, how am I going to help that guy?
The canes threw me.
I didn't know what I really had at that time.
And I knew it helped heal my back.
My knees felt a lot better.
My shoulders felt better.
And I had those canes.
What's the deal?
So I said, I knew I had to lose weight.
His main goal was to lose 50 pounds because he's 5'6", 297 at the time.
And the VA would not operate on his knees until he got under 250.
So I had to lose 50 pounds.
So I sent him this eating plan that I got in Dr. Fred Bishy, who's a nutritionist, a
doctor of nutrition, one of my brother's mentor.
Diet 78 could still run 20 miles on the beach in the thick sand like stud.
And I sent him Fred's eating plan.
It's really close to what my phase three eating plan is about.
And Arthur wrote me back four powerful words.
If you wrote me, I think I could do it or I'll give it a try.
I said, awesome.
Keep me posted.
But like I say, he did and wrote back four powerful words.
I can do this.
I'd send him another email and I said, send me your phone number.
That's the first person I called online that I didn't know.
I do it today all the time.
I did it today.
But I do call people all the time that I don't know just because they're putting the work
in and I want to help inspire them to really put the work in and take it to another level.
And what I share with them, especially if they're big, I share with them watch these
two movies, Food, Ate and Genetically Left.
If you can still eat the same shit you're eating after you watch these two movies, these
two documentaries, then I can't help you.
It's like you got to be ready to help yourself.
You got to really be ready to own it.
Well, Arthur lost, I called him, we talked, two weeks later he called me back, he'd lost
20 pounds.
He lost four inches off his stomach and that mind boggled him.
But I knew and I wasn't going to tell him, but I knew why that happened, mainly because
he was bloated.
So once you take any real food and get rid of the genetically modified food and the dairy
and all that shit, well all of a sudden your body will stop swelling up like a blowfish.
So then he lost 20 pounds.
Bottom line is he lost 32 pounds the first month, he lost 22 pounds the second month,
he lost 18 pounds the third month, that's 72 pounds in three months.
He would go on to lose 140 pounds in 10 months, of course more importantly lose the knee braces,
back brace and wrap around canes to not just walk but run.
But something that's even more fascinating than that is he's never had the knee operations.
That was in 2007, it's now 2019.
Amazing.
And just to clarify, Arthur was a paratrooper, wasn't he?
That's what caused the injuries initially.
Yes, but he also survived a helicopter crash.
Oh really?
I didn't know that part.
Yeah, he was a beat up veteran.
He wanted to get his 20 years in.
He had to retire, forced to retire at 14 years in.
So him and his wife both were military.
And I literally just talked to him today because every year, every March we open up and we
put out invitations to people who had extraordinary transformations and we call it the summit.
And many of our instructors come in and many of the people who are these amazing transformations.
And we're going to probably have about 200 people in my place.
So my superstars who come in, you know, or people who really put it on the map was Arthur,
this woman named Stacey Morris.
Did you see the recent, the last video to go viral of the guy, the advanced Heinz who
was a district attorney from Texas?
I didn't see that one.
No, he lost 198 pounds a year to the day from when he started my program.
Wow.
Amazing.
One year.
And that's my point.
What could happen in one year?
Like you can change your entire life in one year, but you got to believe you got to, you
know, the thing about Positively Unstoppable, the book, you know, the art of owning it,
it teaches you, it's a workbook teach you how to get rid of the negative talk in your
brain.
You know, so many of us, you know, are constantly hit with one adversity, one adversity after
another, you know, most of which we have no control over.
But the one thing we do have control over when we take control, it's our mindset.
It's the way we think.
It's the way we, the way we react, the way we adapt and how we take action and indirectly
the way we breathe and breathing will literally control all of that.
You know, you have oxygen on your brain, you're way clearer than you are when you're panicking.
So under any circumstances, and then you have a fireman, a first responder, nobody knows
that more than you, you know, like shit hits the fan, breathe, bro.
You know?
Yep, absolutely.
And then that's what's really interesting about your program is, you know, there are
some great transformations on weight loss programs, but those weight loss alone, even
though that's obviously nutrition is the way you're going to lose weight, if you're just
doing that, you're not addressing your aches and pains in your body, your mobility, your
fitness, your strength.
But through this and Arthur's transformation is a perfect example, is you see, you know,
like you said, the canes, he's on crutches when he's doing the first part.
But then you also see, it's very well done, the video, you see how much hard work he puts
in and I think that's a message that people have got to understand is you're not going
to sit there on a couch and lose 160 pounds.
It takes work and he's doing his headstands and falling and you know, the shelves come
crashing down and but that's the reality.
It's an ugly, an ugly process to go from decondition to condition, whether it's from weak to strong
from immobile to flexible from fat to lean.
And that's what I love about the videos is you got from A to B, but it was because like
you said, you change your mindset, but you have to put the work in to get there.
And again, I can't stress that enough.
That's, that's a credo of mine.
Like you've got to put the work in.
You know, there was this amazing book that got written a few years ago.
They made a movie out of it.
You know, it's called The Secret.
And the thing that I loved about The Secret is that it taught people how to manifest dreams,
manifest ideas.
And they talked about how you can manifest dreams in the reality and how throwing out
in the universe and all of that.
And when it had me, I was hooked.
I was so in agreement with everything it said to me that all the things I believe.
And then it got to this one scene.
I talk about this in Positively Unstoppable.
They talk about this, they talk about this one scene where this little boy, he's probably
12 and every night he, I want that red bike.
Oh God, I got to have it.
He dreamed about it.
And imagine yourself riding it.
And he just, this amazing red bike.
And the weeks he thought about manifesting, one day he opened the door.
There was that red bike.
I'm like, what?
I'm throwing a flag.
That's total bullshit.
Now if you tell me the kid got up in the morning in my day, because they don't have paper delivery
anymore.
But back in my day, you went out and you're thinking, two papers, you delivered newspapers.
You got up at five o'clock or six o'clock every morning, you did your paper outposts
and you did it, you saved your money and you worked hard, you saved your money.
And you got about half that money for the bike.
And then your daddy, your mom goes, hey, working so hard, I'm going to give you the other half
of that money for that bike.
You know, you earned it.
Now manifest that into a reality, but just to wish it and have it happen, bullshit.
You know, that's a wrong message.
The secret left out the most important thing.
The secret is you got to work for it.
Yeah.
And like you said, believe first that you can do it and then make it happen.
Again, back to the first line of positive, what would you do if you knew your success
was a certainty?
But it's true.
Oh, what did you do?
Go ahead.
I was just going to say it's true because that negative self-talk, it's huge.
And I consider myself a pretty motivated person in general.
But that little yap yap voice is still in my head.
Even if I'm at the gym about to work out, then it's like, oh, you're going to be too
tired.
This one's going to exhaust you.
You're never going to be able to pick that up.
So we all have those voices.
But like you said, it's correcting the voices and allowing that positive internal monologue
to have its turn to talk and say, no, actually, you know what?
You are going to be able to do this today.
And it all comes down to the repetitions of affirmations leads to belief.
And once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen.
I'm going to leave you with this because I've got to get in and meet with my old lady.
But I'm going to leave you with this.
The repetitions of affirmations leads to belief.
And once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen.
You know who's written down in rainy quotes for the guy who said that?
No.
Okay.
So let's break it down.
The repetitions of affirmations before I walked out to get my Hall of Fame ring and say 22,000
people with people watching on the USA Channel and on the WWE Network.
The affirmation that could have been going through my brain was or could have been, man,
God, I haven't done this in years.
I haven't been here in 12 years.
Oh my God, what if I don't get a reaction?
What if I forget what I'm going to say?
What if this is a disaster?
Like that could have been, you know, the thoughts running through my brain or as I call it,
you know, the inner voice, the story you tell yourself.
But that wasn't my voice.
My voice, and I thought about this way before I ever got there, this is going to be the
best thing I've ever done.
I'm going to blow people away.
I'm going to make people laugh.
I'm going to make them cry.
I'm going to inspire them.
And that's the only voice in my brain that's on autopilot.
And that's with my four daughters that are about to walk out with me.
The daughters, the ones getting nervous because like, what if I trip?
I'm like, great, you're going to be fine, honey.
And I'm listening to Eric Bischoff giving one of the best introductions I've ever heard
besides the one I did for Jake Stake Roberts.
You know, I'm not, I'm listening to everything.
I'm paying attention to everything with that voice.
It's going to be the best thing I've ever done.
You're going to blow them away, bro.
Man, you're owning it today.
Don't make them laugh.
Don't make them cry.
You're going to inspire them.
And then I lived out there and I did 27 minutes and did exactly that because it was already
predetermined in my brain it was going to happen.
But if I didn't put the work in, it would never have happened.
But I did.
So the repetition of the affirmation leads to the belief.
And once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen.
So I'm not going to tell you who said it, but I'm going to tell you what he said.
Like this guy said this affirmation over and over and over again.
And somehow there's a really good chance you're going to know who he was.
Now to really think about that before I tell you what he said, that's kind of unbelievable,
wouldn't you think?
Yeah.
Pretty unbelievable.
So here's his affirmation.
I am greatest.
I am the greatest of all time.
Muhammad Ali.
Think about that.
Yeah, that's true.
Muhammad Ali was a champion when he was a young boxer.
But think about that.
How many times did he have to say that for you to laugh hearing it and know it was him?
Like of course, Muhammad Ali.
Yeah, almost 50 years later.
Right.
That's my point.
It's not like his name is Churchill or Kennedy or whatever.
It's Muhammad Ali.
Maybe the most recognizable man in the world at one time.
And it wasn't his boxing career that made him the most probably admired guy of all time
or one of them anyway.
It had everything to do with what he did with his real life and how he stepped up and did
shit that not many people would have done.
When you give up your world championship title and you're the prime of prize, the zing is
a dollar.
I mean there was talk like, because I was a kid, I listened to it all.
You know, Muhammad Ali is afraid to go to Vietnam.
First of all, he never would have went to Vietnam.
He would have paraded around like a peacock.
If he went to the army or the Air Force, wherever he went, he would have treated him like a
god.
It's very true.
He would have been a poster child for the movement.
Exactly.
He would have been everything that they wanted him to be.
But the black man at that time, poof, going through some really tough shit, boy.
I mean some really tough shit.
And it looked like that was never going to change.
But when you got the greatest of all time and then you got Kareem Zulzi Bar and then
you got Jim Brown, these guys had impact.
And they pissed a lot of people off.
But bottom line is they were friggin journeymen, man.
They were the guys who went out and shook the trees when other people were afraid to.
It was a tough thing that they did.
And in the long run it was the best thing for humanity all the way around.
Because they were right about all that shit.
So that's why Muhammad Ali is one of my favorite people ever.
And my wife, she knows that when people ask me, so GDP, what are you doing now?
So I'm changing the world, man.
I mean it.
I'm changing people's viewpoint.
And the people who want to listen, the people who don't want to listen, I don't give a shit,
don't listen.
I'll just speak to the people who want to hear it.
And the people who want to put the work in, I help people all the time, I don't even know.
But they're the ones putting the work in.
Like Ben Chimes, Arthur Mormon.
Yeah, exactly.
And then, sorry to interrupt, but I was just going to say, and what is powerful is your
message is a positive one.
You're trying to help people.
So if you don't want to listen to that, then it's an interesting idea just to black it
out.
Like you're standing on your soapbox and blasting political views or you're just out there,
you found something that works and you're trying to bring your program that you developed
to other people and say, hey, if you try this, it's probably going to work for you too.
Yeah, it's just I get out there, I speak to one person, one podcast.
Of course, when you get on a Rogan, you're speaking to millions of people and that guy,
man, wouldn't aces dude.
Like he's the voice of this generation right now.
Howard Stern was for a long time, but Howard's done his thing and he had a hell of a run
and he's still amazing.
But Joe Rogan is the voice of now.
He is the voice of the regular guy.
He's the voice of the guy who busts his ass.
He's a voice of credibility and accountability and they'll be able to become buddies out
of it and having Jake over to do his show too.
So I'm just going to do one day at a time just like I've been doing the whole time and
preach my stuff.
And if you want to get in on it, also if you don't, doesn't affect me.
And what I do is I love what I do.
I created something that it took me 10 years to be an overnight success, but I never gave
up and never quit and I kept working and we have a new documentary coming out this year
called Relentless and that's this story.
It's about this entire 20 year journey and again, it'll inspire people to believe, you
know, to believe in themselves.