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enough. 68 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,920 I actually watched it yesterday and I watched it again today. 69 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:42,960 Not only is Bethany's story incredibly powerful, 70 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,880 but also the cinematography is beautiful in this film. 71 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,000 So you must watch that. 72 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,040 So in this conversation, 73 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,120 I want to explore the space between the lines. 74 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,080 Her story is being well-documented, 75 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,080 especially some of the tragedy of her early life. 76 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,960 But we went into fitness, into nutrition, 77 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,360 into her mindset, what made her so successful, 78 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,680 not only as a youth athlete, 79 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,720 but then post-injury as an adaptive athlete, 80 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,280 competing alongside non-adaptive athletes. 81 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,800 So it was an incredible conversation. 82 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,640 I feel that we covered a huge amount of topics 83 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:15,200 in the time that we had. 84 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Before we get to the interview, as I always say, 85 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,240 go to the podcast app that you listen to this on 86 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,020 and subscribe to the show. 87 00:03:21,020 --> 00:03:22,980 Leave feedback, I love reading your feedback. 88 00:03:22,980 --> 00:03:24,640 But most importantly, leave a rating. 89 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,360 The more five-star ratings we get, 90 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,960 the more visible this project is 91 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,520 to people that are looking for it. 92 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,120 And then use your social media. 93 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,600 This is a free library of incredible people's life stories, 94 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,720 philosophies, work, and my goal is to get it 95 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,800 to the ear holes of everyone on planet Earth 96 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,000 that needs to hear it. 97 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,760 And so that entails you, the audience member as well. 98 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,220 The more you share, the more you tell people, 99 00:03:47,220 --> 00:03:49,400 the more this grows, the more people learn 100 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,840 and change their lives. 101 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,600 So with that being said, I introduce to you 102 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Bethany Hamilton, enjoy. 103 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,560 ["Best of Me"] 104 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,240 So Bethany, I wanna say firstly, thank you so, so much 105 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,600 for agreeing to come on the Behind the Shield podcast 106 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,400 at such short notice. 107 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Yeah, no worries, glad to be here. 108 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,680 And I wanna say thank you to Eric Goodman, 109 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,800 Foundation Training Founder for connecting us. 110 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Yep, I've been nerding out on Foundation lately. 111 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,760 So if y'all are looking to get your health and posture 112 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,080 and body alignment functioning good, 113 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,840 I recommend checking it out, it's amazing. 114 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:43,840 Absolutely, all right. 115 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:45,200 Well, I like to go chronologically. 116 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,000 Obviously, I know we've got a time constraint, 117 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,600 so I wanna make my questions kind of short and sweet. 118 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,080 But just give me an overview of your parents' background 119 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,840 and then your childhood introduction into surfing. 120 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:02,840 Yeah, well, I was born and raised here in Kauai, Hawaii, 121 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,440 where I still live. 122 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,440 And yeah, I think for a lot of people, 123 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,240 it's natural they'll let the ocean be a kid's playground, 124 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,080 especially my parents being that they were surfers. 125 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,320 And I also had two older brothers 126 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,400 who loved being in the ocean as well. 127 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,080 So yeah, I guess we spent more time at the beach 128 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,520 than the playground growing up. 129 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,560 And it created like a just natural love for the ocean. 130 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,400 And once I started surfing, I just had a knack for it 131 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,600 and really loved it. 132 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,200 And especially as I got like around the age of eight, 133 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,480 then I just started catching waves on my own 134 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,560 and just really fell in love with riding waves 135 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,520 and the challenge and beauty of it. 136 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,320 And so I started to get competitive. 137 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,240 And yeah, my parents were just super supportive of me 138 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,240 along the journey and just saw all the potential I had. 139 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,480 Yeah, it kind of chewed me on. 140 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,600 Now, one thing I've talked about with quite a few people 141 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,640 from either a coaching background 142 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,280 or we're athletes themselves is 143 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:16,960 we see a lot of parents living vicariously 144 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:17,800 through their children. 145 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,320 So they put them in all these baseball camps, for example. 146 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,160 And a lot of these kids are just, 147 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,600 they're not going to get to that highest level. 148 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,560 And there's a certain point where many of them 149 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,880 even get burnt out or injured on it. 150 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,080 You however, the anomaly, you're the athlete 151 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,200 that just had that innate passion and that innate skill 152 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,480 and picked up that specific sport so well. 153 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,960 So looking back now, what was it about you and surfing 154 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,280 you think that was so different than the average 155 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,040 young boy or girl that takes up surfing, 156 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,400 but just gets to a certain level? 157 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,720 Yeah, well, I think my parents were definitely living 158 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,280 vicariously through me. 159 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,320 But they also had like a good healthy balance. 160 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,320 And they, yeah, they just supported me in a way 161 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,360 that was like cheering me on, 162 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,640 but not like too forceful or too pushy. 163 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,600 And they kind of let my natural drive be like the leader, 164 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,480 so to say, like from my vantage point. 165 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,280 And then they were just there to get me to the beach. 166 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,280 And yeah, and then I think I definitely had a lot 167 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,200 of the natural drive to be really competitive with it. 168 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,480 And as much as I love surfing, I also loved competing 169 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,000 and still do today. 170 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,840 I'm just naturally competitive. 171 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,000 So that kind of just was kind of my driver 172 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,840 or my leader for the sport. 173 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,840 And then, just to give you guys a background, 174 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,040 I was winning like almost every event 175 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,080 in my local community. 176 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,960 And then at 13, I was in the national championship finals 177 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,520 and finished second in like 18 and under, 178 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,320 age 13 or 12, maybe. 179 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,120 And so I was competing against high school girls 180 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,080 and just, it showed that I was just gonna be good. 181 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,760 And so when I lost my arm, 182 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,760 that kind of made everyone question, including myself. 183 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Well, so what I saw from the leading up is, 184 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,520 you had this passion, you also had this fearlessness, 185 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,680 and then you had the incident with the attack. 186 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,320 Up to that point, the ocean was your solitude, 187 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,680 your safe space, where you connected with nature. 188 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,280 What was that journey like to get back 189 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,480 to trust the ocean again and make it your healing environment 190 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,240 after that one moment? 191 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Yeah, I guess, yeah, 192 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,320 cause my world was flipped upside down. 193 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,840 And I would touch on too that, look, 194 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,960 I didn't feel really angry at God 195 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,520 or I didn't feel angry about the situation, 196 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,280 but more I immediately felt like just grateful 197 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,480 that I was alive. 198 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,000 And I knew that I could very well have been dead. 199 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,400 So I think that helped me a lot 200 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,360 rather than being caught up in just anger and hate. 201 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,960 And just, yeah, just, I think those emotions 202 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,680 can really bring you down. 203 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:46,280 And especially when you're in a such 204 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,200 life altering circumstance, 205 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,240 like I just being grateful kind of led me 206 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,240 to just be more positive and just be able to move forward. 207 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:01,920 And I trusted and hoped that God had more 208 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,160 from my life beyond that. 209 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,840 And even though it felt like really chaotic 210 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,280 and not sure what the future would hold, 211 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,000 I just kind of just kept trekking along. 212 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,440 And then as I share in like my new documentary, 213 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,440 Unstoppable, there's a scene where 214 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,640 a guy named Mike Coots who lost his leg to a shark 215 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,040 was like, hey, I went surfing this morning. 216 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,640 It's totally possible to get up with one arm. 217 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,480 So he was kind of my first light bulb of inspiration. 218 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,880 And once he told me that I was determined 219 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,080 to get back in the ocean. 220 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,080 And I guess my fear of sharks was not as great 221 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,440 as my fear of losing surfing. 222 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,480 So. 223 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,320 Yeah, well, you touched on gratitude. 224 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,000 And that was another thing that was poignant from the movie. 225 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,080 And by the way, for everyone listening, 226 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Unstoppable is not only such an incredibly powerful story 227 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,120 of which the attack is like a minute blip 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,960 in your true life story, 229 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,040 but also is so, so beautifully shot. 230 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,440 But when post injury, when you talk about being grateful 231 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,400 that it wasn't your best friend, Alana, that was bitten, 232 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,720 it really underlined the power of gratitude. 233 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Then rather than looking at the one thing that you lost, 234 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,320 you seem to focus on all the things that you still had. 235 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Yeah, and I definitely did. 236 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,040 And so as I started surfing, 237 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,000 once I popped up on my first wave, 238 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,520 it was like no turning back. 239 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,680 And I was just on a mission to be the best surfer 240 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:42,200 I could be with what I had. 241 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,920 So like I said, we said before, 242 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,360 I've had many members on here of the adaptive community. 243 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,080 And obviously you talk about your dad putting the handle on 244 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,760 so you're able to duck dive with your first surfboard. 245 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,840 But that back then, that was before what we're seeing now 246 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,680 with the huge adaptive athlete community. 247 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:05,560 What was that physical journey for you? 248 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Again, realizing that you have to change 249 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,920 the way your physicality is, 250 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,640 but finding ways to do it rather than the word 251 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,640 that you openly say you don't like, the disabled word, 252 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,720 where again, you're focusing on what you can't do, 253 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,080 but you apply what you can do. 254 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Yeah, and I was definitely all about just adapting. 255 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,080 And I just love the idea of like adapting 256 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,720 because that has to do with everyone regarding, 257 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,080 regardless of whether you have a limb difference 258 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,800 or a physical difference. 259 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,080 It's just life dealing with the ups and downs 260 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,000 and the challenges and the painful times, 261 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,120 just being able to adopt through those 262 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,600 and kind of be resilient is so important. 263 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,840 So, and a lot of that has to do with just the mind, 264 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,720 like having a resilient and adopting mind. 265 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,960 Because especially as you get older, 266 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,400 like I noticed like how the effects of being negative 267 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,400 or ungrateful or just kind of like doubting myself 268 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,080 or my abilities, like is so powerful 269 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,360 that it can just really hold us back 270 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,040 from being our best selves or loving those around us well, 271 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,280 or being able to forgive those when they make mistakes 272 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,920 or forgive ourselves when we make mistakes. 273 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,360 Yeah, it can just be a de-habilitating, 274 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,280 having a poor mindset. 275 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,480 Absolutely, well, with that, 276 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,920 I mean, obviously you've got the physical side, 277 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,120 the mental side, were there any kind of types of therapy 278 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,120 that you found work better, 279 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,560 to bring you not only the journey out of that initial event, 280 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:48,640 but then creating a strong mindset 281 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,480 for your athletic career? 282 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,440 Yeah, unfortunately, well, maybe not unfortunately, 283 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,440 but I really didn't do anything special in my younger years. 284 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,760 I hardly even saw a therapist after I lost my arm, 285 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,280 maybe like two times. 286 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,040 But I don't think I suffered too much 287 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,240 from like post-traumatic stress stuff. 288 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,000 So thankfully, I don't think that was too much of an issue. 289 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,840 But I think just being in the ocean was really healing for me 290 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,760 and just knowing that I could still do 291 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,480 what I love to do most and being present 292 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,200 is like the ocean and riding waves in particular. 293 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,760 When you're up and riding on a wave, 294 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,080 it's like the ultimate form of just being present 295 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,360 and doing what you're doing. 296 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,840 So that was pretty, yeah, it just worked out good for me. 297 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,680 And then now in my adult years, 298 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,160 just as an athlete and a surfer, 299 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,920 I definitely just kind of try to focus on my strengths 300 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,640 and I do a little bit of just kind of mental training, 301 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,960 like affirmation sort of stuff, 302 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:03,120 like just meditating on my strengths and what I can do. 303 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,720 And yeah, it seems to be helpful 304 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,840 just kind of believing that I can. 305 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Do you use any visualization at all 306 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,160 of the waves that you're gonna anticipate getting? 307 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,720 I wish I did more of that. 308 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,520 I do kind of naturally, I would say, 309 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,000 but like I don't have like an intentional 310 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,960 like visualization time. 311 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,000 Right, now what about the breath hole training? 312 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,880 You're featuring in the movie, 313 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,960 carrying the rock underneath, 314 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,200 which looks kind of reminiscent 315 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,000 of some of Leighardt Hamilton's stuff. 316 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,600 What does your physical preparation look like 317 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,520 to get to the level that you're at? 318 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Yeah, I always joke with people 319 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,400 that I've been like training since I was seven years old 320 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,360 because I would just go and like get pounded 321 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,240 in the surf for fun or, you know, 322 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,760 you'd go to like natural lava rock pools 323 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,280 as like with my dad a lot growing up 324 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,200 and he and I would like try to swim 325 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,360 as far as we could underwater without taking a breath. 326 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,600 So it's just, and then also like I would go shell diving 327 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,320 and just hold my breath while picking shells underwater. 328 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,040 So I did all these natural 329 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,560 like kind of playful training growing up. 330 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,800 And then all my girlfriends and I would go rock running 331 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,120 growing up and so now I'll just, 332 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,880 I still do some of that stuff, 333 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,320 but I'll also just do like normal breath holding, 334 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,120 like sitting on the couch or if my husband's driving, 335 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,560 like sitting in the car, just holding my breath. 336 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,720 Yeah, because he's a terrifying driver 337 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,520 or is that for training? 338 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,520 No, for training. 339 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,680 He's a pretty good driver, so thankfully. 340 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,080 But yeah, and then just a lot of cross training. 341 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,360 I've changed a lot of how I do things 342 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,280 now that I've had two children 343 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,840 and just being a lot more gentle on my body, 344 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,600 but I also still want to be explosive. 345 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,760 So just kind of getting creative with that 346 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,400 with different trainers. 347 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,920 And yeah, I've been dabbling with foundation 348 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,920 and just trying to keep the fluidity in my movement 349 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,400 as well though, like kind of, I don't know, 350 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,440 a lot of the stuff I do is like very, 351 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,440 has like dancer, kind of dancer-esque sort of movements 352 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,920 just because surfing, you don't want to be rigid, 353 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,200 but you want to be flowing 354 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,000 and kind of forget what the terms are. 355 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,320 There's terms for it all, but be like kinetic, 356 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,560 flowing movement throughout the whole body. 357 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Absolutely, well, you mentioned the children as well. 358 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,320 So a very kind of pertinent thing for me, 359 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,160 a couple of things. 360 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,720 Firstly, when you first got pregnant, 361 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,360 as people will see when they watch the film, 362 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:52,480 there were some challenges in your performance, 363 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,120 but then when you were more heavily pregnant, 364 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:58,600 you noticed that actually you were surfing better. 365 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,800 So tell me about that experience, 366 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,600 because I think that was a beautiful thing seeing you, 367 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,680 I'm assuming you were probably six or seven months 368 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,840 by that point, riding some of your best waves. 369 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,320 Yeah, it was interesting. 370 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,800 That wasn't definitely not part of my plan 371 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,120 to get better at surfing while I was pregnant. 372 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:18,160 I guess a lot of people, 373 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,480 there's a lot of different opinions about that sort of stuff, 374 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,160 but growing up in Hawaii, 375 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,760 you're always seeing pregnant women surfing, 376 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,760 it's kind of normal and it's not much of a worry. 377 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,920 So yeah, surfing while I was pregnant 378 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,000 wasn't really a question, so to say. 379 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,480 But the cool thing was, 380 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,520 a lot of people don't realize, 381 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,640 but I'm almost six foot tall 382 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,600 and I'm pretty really naturally strong 383 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,880 and then plus I cross-trained, 384 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,520 so I have cross-training strength. 385 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,880 So I surf very strong and kind of powerful 386 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,600 and heavy back-footed. 387 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,760 So when I was pregnant, 388 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,120 it kind of forced me to just kind of slow things down a bit 389 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,440 and just get more smooth, 390 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,400 which was something I wanted in my surfing. 391 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,520 It was just hard to make myself do. 392 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,720 But being pregnant kind of just naturally 393 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,000 made me do that more. 394 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,120 And then so that was kind of how I got better 395 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:26,880 in that I just got smoother and more flowing. 396 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,760 And then I try to keep that going after I got pregnant too, 397 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,560 or once I had the baby, 398 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,760 just kind of keep that natural approach 399 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,760 just a bit more smooth and flowing with the waves. 400 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,480 Yeah, and it struck me as like you said, 401 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,200 that there's polarizing opinions of that. 402 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,720 But what I see, especially here in the US at the moment, 403 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,720 is that it's deemed healthy to put on 30, 40, 50 pounds 404 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,120 during pregnancy and not exercise, 405 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:02,000 but it's deemed unhealthy to be in the gym or on the water 406 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,960 until you almost have the child. 407 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,320 And I personally think that's completely backwards. 408 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,560 Oh my gosh, I was gonna hold myself up 409 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,240 and self back from saying some stuff like that. 410 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:17,240 But a lot of pregnant women just eating whatever they want 411 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,680 just because they think like, 412 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,880 oh, I can do whatever I want while I'm pregnant. 413 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,400 But really you should be eating nourishing, 414 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:28,400 nourishing healthy foods for your body and for your baby. 415 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,240 And these so-called cravings shouldn't be the leader 416 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,880 of what you eat, but rather what the best interests 417 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,960 and hand for your baby and for yourself 418 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,800 while you're growing a little human being. 419 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,360 And even that goes into childhood too. 420 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,880 Like you hear these comments of like, 421 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,840 oh, kids can get away with whatever, eating whatever, 422 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,480 but like they're in the most critical development 423 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,760 in the younger years. 424 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,160 So they should be eating more nourishing 425 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,520 and more healthy foods than ever as children 426 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,120 to grow a nourishing, healthy mind and body 427 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:10,000 and just be a healthy human. 428 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,360 So there's just like kind of a lot of like 429 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:17,120 kind of lame excuses out there that aren't good for anyone. 430 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:18,080 Yeah, no, I agree. 431 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,400 One of the things I'm trying to, 432 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,800 I mean, I'm not personally trying to fix, 433 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,880 but hopefully being part of the tapestry to fix it 434 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,000 is the food in the schools. 435 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,080 This is the most crucial time to teach kids about food 436 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,880 and eating and cooking, and we're kind of screwing it up. 437 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,120 Oh my gosh, that's amazing. 438 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,880 I love that you're doing that. 439 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,360 My husband and I are actually planning to homeschool our kids 440 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:43,600 and I have all kinds of plans to like educate them 441 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,440 really thoroughly in health. 442 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,720 And I mean, naturally they'll just learn 443 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,720 because that's how we live and eat 444 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,080 and that's our way of life. 445 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,280 But I want them to have all the knowledge behind it 446 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,600 so that they're driven in their own knowledge 447 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,120 to take care of themselves as young adults. 448 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:03,960 Absolutely. 449 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,160 Now what are some of your philosophies nutrition-wise 450 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,040 to perform at the level that you do? 451 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,400 Yeah, I mean, I just eat pretty whole foodie 452 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,400 and we eat like grass-fed and humanely raised animal. 453 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,920 And I personally have been eating like a lot of bone broth 454 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,760 and just a lot of veggies and some kind of like, 455 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,600 what do you call them? 456 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,600 Like squashes and sweet potatoes and stuff like that. 457 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,680 Like not too much grain. 458 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,080 And yeah, it's interesting just kind of going 459 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,200 into adulthood as a woman, like it feels harder 460 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,400 to kind of just be really slim or whatever, 461 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,120 even with the amount that I move. 462 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:54,200 So I feel like I'm always trying to like work out 463 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,480 what's best for me and energy-wise too. 464 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,200 Like I just do so much and I know that I'm pushing my body 465 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,920 more than the average kind of human. 466 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,200 And so finding ways to support it the best I can 467 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,520 that empower me to have good energy 468 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,120 and good recovery and strength. 469 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,680 Right, well, you also in the film start 470 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,640 realizing areas of surfing, 471 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,680 which is a very broad spectrum of styles 472 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,640 that you wanna improve on, which I thought was phenomenal 473 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,200 because you didn't just stay in your lane. 474 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,800 And I mean that in a positive way, 475 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,120 but you realize that there was aerial and big wave 476 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:38,120 and barrel and all these other specialties 477 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:39,880 that you wanted to conquer. 478 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,400 You wanted to add yet another layer 479 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,440 to your already incredible surfing. 480 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,200 So was there like a pivotal moment 481 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,480 that started that thought process or was it kind of, 482 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,440 again, from that little eight-year-old girl? 483 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Yeah, I mean, ever since I was a young girl, 484 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,120 like I was always, I think I started doing my first airs 485 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:03,800 when I was 12 and I was also like going for barely waves 486 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,880 at that age and big waves. 487 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,440 So I think I've just always, 488 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,280 I've always wanted to just be a really well-rounded surfer 489 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,880 and kind of like push myself in all aspects. 490 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,800 And it just keeps it really fun too and like not boring. 491 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,920 Like when you just focus on, 492 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,480 I love actually surfing little waves too 493 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,400 and like trying to push myself in little waves 494 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,280 and like to perform well, but I also love huge waves. 495 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,680 Like I just, I love it all and I love being able 496 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,840 to kind of push myself in all areas, 497 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,360 whatever the ocean provides, 498 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,200 then we just go for it and like have fun with it. 499 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,560 So it was cool, like being in the filmmaking space, 500 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,560 it kind of just, we allowed more kind of freedom 501 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,880 to just have the time to put the energy 502 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,120 and focus on all these different aspects, 503 00:24:56,120 --> 00:25:00,640 whereas otherwise I would have been having to do 504 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,160 other work stuff that would kind of pull from my focus. 505 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,440 So making the film just provided that open space 506 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,680 to really work hard and push myself 507 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480 in all the different areas of surfing. 508 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,880 And yeah, it was just so much fun. 509 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,360 I just, you know, like for me, it wasn't, 510 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,360 definitely it wasn't about making the film, 511 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,640 but it was just like, oh yeah, let's make the film 512 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,120 so I can go on surf trips. 513 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,560 And then even like, like a lot of my drive after, 514 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,240 once I found out I was pregnant, I was like, 515 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,840 well, should we do this film? 516 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,760 And I was like, well, I just wanna have like 517 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,560 the motivation to keep surfing and pushing myself 518 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,640 after I have the baby. 519 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,120 So yeah, let's keep doing the film. 520 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:45,480 Yeah, another thing that really struck me about the film 521 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,600 is you were very vulnerable and honest 522 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,880 in the storytelling of it. 523 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,400 And there was that moment when you had Tobias 524 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,840 where you struggled with the surfing, 525 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,880 you know, your surfing tract and motherhood. 526 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,120 And I thought that was probably a crossroads 527 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,720 that a lot of, you know, moms and dads find themselves 528 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,440 where yeah, of course a child, as you know now, 529 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,600 completely changes the way you look at life. 530 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,360 And you know, even like time management 531 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:13,520 and that kind of thing. 532 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,000 So what was that experience for you like? 533 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,440 Oh, it was definitely a big adjustment phase 534 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,720 and kind of just finding the balance 535 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,960 is still to this day a continual thing. 536 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,960 And, but like it's cool with professional surfing, 537 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,240 like my kids can come to the beach with me 538 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,880 or they can kind of distract me from my gym focus. 539 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,360 And I don't mind that and I like having them 540 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:45,200 just be a part of my life and be in kind of the thick 541 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,760 of it all and they travel with us a lot too, 542 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,080 or they travel with us everywhere just about. 543 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,880 So I just love kind of incorporating them into our world 544 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,200 and you know, we'll do kids stuff, 545 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,120 but they also come along for a mom and dad at a time. 546 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:05,120 So yeah, I think it just makes for a really special upbringing 547 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,360 and if they couldn't be a part of it, 548 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,840 I probably wouldn't wanna do it all 549 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,480 or do as much as I'm doing. 550 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,960 But thankfully like my husband and I, 551 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,480 we just be teamwork everything we do. 552 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,360 We have kind of a lot of different facets going on 553 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:24,000 from just, you know, I do some motivational speaking, 554 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,880 I do endorsements and now we've launched 555 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,120 our own online course for empowering people 556 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,040 to live their unstoppable life. 557 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,320 And so we have a lot of different things going on 558 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,440 and then this year I'm gonna be competing full time 559 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,480 on the World Qualifying Series as well. 560 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,760 So there's just a lot kind of on our plate, 561 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,400 but we just kind of like pass the kids back and forth 562 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,200 and we have a lot of family who live nearby. 563 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,240 So they can drop the kids with grandpa and grandma 564 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280 here and there and yeah, it works out good. 565 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,200 So I just love being able to share life 566 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,520 super thoroughly with them and I wanna raise my kids, 567 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,160 I don't want someone else raising my kids. 568 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,160 So I'm thankful that I can. 569 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,520 That is amazing and it's a very sad thing 570 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,680 kind of like the pregnancy thing we were talking about earlier 571 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,800 when you also hear someone say, 572 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,120 well, we have kids now so we can't travel anymore, 573 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:17,960 you know, whatever it is, 574 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,240 I can't pursue this dream anymore. 575 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,840 And that's so wrong. 576 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,360 Like you can engineer so many situations where you can. 577 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:25,800 It may not be all the time, 578 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960 but my little boy who you're gonna meet in a minute, 579 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,800 which is brilliant, 580 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,520 you're definitely one of his heroes. 581 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,800 You know, he's been all around the world because, 582 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,080 I mean, the first time he was six weeks old 583 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,960 when I took him home back to England. 584 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,520 But yeah, I mean, there's no better way of giving a child 585 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,520 a grounding of the humans that inhabit this planet with us 586 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,960 than to take them around the world 587 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640 and show them all these other cultures. 588 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,600 Yeah, it really is special. 589 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Yeah, my four-year-old has spent most of his birthdays 590 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,440 internationally and he, you know, 591 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,040 he does great with other kids, 592 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,840 but he also has a really great ability 593 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,440 to interact with adults 594 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,320 and just people of all different backgrounds. 595 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,920 So it's cool to just see how he is developing 596 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,120 in such a beautiful way to be just an awesome human. 597 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Absolutely. 598 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,280 Well, you mentioned the unstoppable years. 599 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,920 Let's talk about that for a moment. 600 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720 What made you come up with that platform 601 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,520 and tell people exactly what it is? 602 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480 Yeah, well, I've always loved 603 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,600 just encouraging other people. 604 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,000 Often I've done that through storytelling, 605 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,720 my book and now my films. 606 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,840 And then also I'm pretty present on social media, 607 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,120 but I also don't really like social media that much. 608 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,480 I just think it's a really dark 609 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,640 and kind of awful place for a lot of people 610 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,200 and they don't really know why 611 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640 and they don't know how to set that boundaries 612 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,960 for themselves to kind of, yeah, 613 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:02,560 just recognize that social media 614 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,040 has a really dark impact maybe for a lot of them. 615 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,480 So, and I also felt like it's very shallow 616 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,000 and I just kind of wanted to create a space 617 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,160 that was A, really safe, 618 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,440 because I speak to a lot of young people 619 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,560 and so I want it to be a safe and healthy place for kids. 620 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,080 So the unstoppable course, 621 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,800 we wanted to create that and just empower them, 622 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,760 but also equip them to live an unstoppable life 623 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,600 and to recognize that they can overcome 624 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,800 and to empower them to just be thoughtful humans 625 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,560 and in the way they live their life. 626 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,600 And so we talk about mindset, 627 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,000 slowing themselves down and being present, 628 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,240 how to overcome obstacles, 629 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,400 how to live passionately, how to live healthily. 630 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,200 And kind of, it's like this ultimate kind of package 631 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,520 of like, it's a year long course too. 632 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,720 So it takes, to me to have like true change takes time. 633 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,840 So yeah, we're just empowering them through a long year 634 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480 of like really encouraging them in their journey. 635 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,440 And it's been really fun so far 636 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,480 because I've just like hearing the feedback. 637 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,200 People are definitely gonna finish the year 638 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,720 with their lives being changed. 639 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,520 So that's a big goal of mine, 640 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,280 is just to change people's lives in a real way 641 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400 that actually is long lasting. 642 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,360 Brilliant, well, I've got my little boy starring on this. 643 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,720 So I will let you know how he does. 644 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,960 He's definitely had some of the challenges 645 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,520 with a lot of young kids these days, 646 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,600 especially with like you said, social media 647 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,320 and then some of the dangers in the schools. 648 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,840 There are some stresses on him. 649 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,880 So it's so great that he has someone who he respects, 650 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880 that he can watch every day. 651 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,480 And then you mentioned about having 652 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,880 other inspirational people on there as well. 653 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,440 And just give a positive platform 654 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,160 that your kids can go to when maybe, 655 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,040 on a daily basis or even if they're not having 656 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,240 such a great day, they can go back 657 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,120 and listen to some of them again. 658 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,640 Yeah, and then we do like the live Q&A 659 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,640 so they can like kind of see us each month 660 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,280 and ask questions and just kind of get deeper 661 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,040 on some of the topics that maybe they're struggling 662 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,880 with more than the other topic. 663 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,480 And yeah, it's really fun. 664 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,480 I love being able to do what I do. 665 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,200 And on top of that, still be surfing and moming and wife. 666 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,400 And yeah, just valuing my family time and travel. 667 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,400 And yeah, we're kind of doing a lot of like ultimate living. 668 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,920 Absolutely. 669 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,200 Well, another area that you kind of touch on, 670 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,200 you just certainly don't like preach too much about it 671 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,560 but faith is obviously a very important thing to you. 672 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,320 So how has that factored into certain areas of your life? 673 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,320 Oh yeah, for sure. 674 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,960 I mean, definitely when I lost my arm, 675 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,840 I already believed in God and I believed that. 676 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,160 Like I understood that the world wasn't a perfect place 677 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,080 and that I didn't expect my life to be perfect either. 678 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,200 So when I lost my arm, I think a lot of that 679 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,960 kind of led me to be positive and be thankful 680 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,800 that I was alive and living and to be hopeful 681 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,880 that there was more than this current chaos 682 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,640 that I was facing. 683 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080 And then even to this day, still yeah. 684 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,440 And just like my Christian faith has definitely taught me 685 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,400 a lot about forgiveness too because God forever forgives us 686 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,920 no matter what or how awful we may be. 687 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120 And I think in the marriage relationship, 688 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,800 especially being able to forgive your spouse 689 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,800 or ask them to forgive you is like so, so key. 690 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,040 And so it's kind of been a strong point for my husband. 691 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,320 Even though we've only been married now for like, 692 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,320 we're coming up on our seventh anniversary, 693 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,760 but yeah, we're going strong and we love each other 694 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,440 and we love doing life with each other. 695 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,680 So I feel thankful to like my faith for that. 696 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,640 And yeah, it carries a lot into parenthood too. 697 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,320 And yeah, just overcoming hard times. 698 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,800 Yeah, well, and also what I've seen from the outside 699 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,200 looking in is you're interpreting your faith 700 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,360 in a very, very positive way with the gratitude 701 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,920 and the compassion and the kindness. 702 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,440 And that I think is what, 703 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,240 no matter what people's faith are, 704 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:32,440 if that's the core of what you believe and what you do, 705 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,960 then you have an incredible faith. 706 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,800 Thank you. 707 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,120 So I've got one more question for you. 708 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,360 And then I'm gonna grab my son 709 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,720 and then we'll let you go. 710 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,840 The entire film, there is so much that you're doing 711 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,280 that scare a lot of people watching, 712 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,040 whether it's the little girl jumping off the pier 713 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,000 or obviously the attack or the incredible waves 714 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,800 that you were surfing despite getting smashed 715 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,360 into the rocks. 716 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,960 What do you do to overcome fear when you are 717 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,480 in an environment that actually you find yourself 718 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,480 actually scared at that moment? 719 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,720 Gosh, maybe, I don't know. 720 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:20,600 I would say like dealing with fear 721 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,880 kind of comes really natural to me. 722 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,720 I don't overthink it, but maybe I kind of face it 723 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,800 and just acknowledge that I feel fearful. 724 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,800 And then from there, I either just head on go for it 725 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,480 or I don't know, take some breath. 726 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,760 I mean, when it's in the ocean, I breathe 727 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,520 and just kind of talk to myself like, you got this. 728 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,560 You've trained a lifetime for moments like this. 729 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,920 So, because I kind of, I realized that it takes a lot 730 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,360 of like kind of ocean power to get me feeling really afraid. 731 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,360 But I don't know, I pray, pray about it 732 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,800 and just ask God to help me 733 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,080 or I'll talk to my husband about it. 734 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,160 I think just talking about fear is helpful 735 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,920 and like getting another kind of someone you trust 736 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,440 like to kind of dig into it is cool. 737 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,720 But yeah, I don't know if that'll be helpful for anyone, 738 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:27,400 but yeah, just try not to let the fear stop me 739 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,760 from going for it. 740 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,520 And thankfully, like I'm surfing today 741 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,000 at a professional level and I could have very much 742 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,240 have let like fear stopped me. 743 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:41,760 So I'm thankful I didn't let it stop me from surfing 744 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,320 and doing the thing I love to do the most. 745 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,160 Absolutely. 746 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,160 So just to kind of look at the subtext, 747 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,800 the fear is diminished because you have so much faith 748 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,120 in your ability and the training that you've put in. 749 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,760 Yeah, and I think too, just being able 750 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,680 to kind of recognize it and know that it's there, 751 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,920 but like kind of almost like let it drive me. 752 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,120 Gotcha, brilliant. 753 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,080 All right, well, I'll ask you this question 754 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,320 and I'll go grab my son afterwards 755 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,880 and I wanna make sure that everyone listening 756 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520 knows where to find all the stuff online. 757 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,840 So you've got the film has come out, 758 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,600 it's been out in America since June, I think it was. 759 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640 An incredible film, I tell everyone listening, 760 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,760 you need to watch this film. 761 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,080 Then you have the Unstoppable Year. 762 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,360 Where can people find you and all this content online? 763 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,320 Awesome, thank you. 764 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,760 Yeah, Unstoppable is out. 765 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,480 Unstoppable, my documentary is now out. 766 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,720 Like it's gonna be online and Netflix 767 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,920 and all the online spaces. 768 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,440 So you can watch it from your couch 769 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040 because I personally am too lazy to go to the theater. 770 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,920 And it was in the theater for a short time. 771 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,520 So that was cool. 772 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,960 And then it's actually gonna be releasing 773 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,680 internationally this year. 774 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,880 So I'm excited about that. 775 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,880 And otherwise you can find me at BethanyHamilton.com 776 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,160 or at Bethany on social. 777 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,160 So yeah, thanks to everyone for hearing me out. 778 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:24,160 I'll see you next time.