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Welcome to the Reality Taboo, where no topic

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is off limits. It's February 21st, 2026. It's

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useful to define terms, and a la Mike Huckabee

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talking about the importance of... defining terms

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ahead of answering or obfuscating an answer to

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Tucker Carlson's question about what the definition

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of Christian Zionism is, I'm going to address

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a question Jeff asked in absentia about what

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we mean by the term managerial state. Uncle Ted

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Kaczynski called it the system. One of the tragedies

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of Ted Kaczynski is that, of course, he is a

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murderer, but a sympathetic one in some ways,

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in that he used those mail bombs as a way of

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drawing attention to something he felt he could

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in no other way draw attention to. And in that

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regard, he was just a few years too early because

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his actions came on the eve. Of the internet

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revolution that would have facilitated Ted getting

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the ideas that he had out to the country, out

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to the entire world, that technology came on

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the scene during the latter part of Kaczynski's

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terrorist campaign in the late 80s and early

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90s. But had he come a decade later, then he

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would have been able to participate in the Gen

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X dream of the internet as being something where

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ideas could be exchanged freely and openly. The

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dream that was still motivating Jack Dorsey when

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he famously called Twitter the free speech wing

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of the free speech movement. In any case, what

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Kaczynski called the system maps well onto the

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idea of the managerial state or what... Thomas

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Saas called the therapeutic state. Tom Woods

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calls the blob. Curtis Yarvin called the cathedral.

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And parenthetically, yes, Yarvin is Jewish. He

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could have called it the synagogue, but chose

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instead to call it the cathedral. Though in fairness

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to him, the idea of a cathedral as having an

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elaborate, inspiring, and somewhat intimidating

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edifice is part of what allows the... cathedral

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to do what it does that allows the managerial

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state to do what it does is that it is draped

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in ornate Fixings, whether they be physical or

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rhetorical in the sense that they self -justify

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themselves as democratic or whether it be by

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way of credentialism. These are studies and pronouncements

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made by the expert class who has gone through

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the academic institutions. Paul Gottfried and

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Sam Francis called it the managerial state. That's

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probably the phrase used most frequently here,

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although it's not my personal favorite. James

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Wilson called it the bureaucratic state. Jack

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Donovan, riffing from the never -ending story

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book and movie from the 80s, called it the nothing,

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the great nothing. The King James Bible called

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it the powers that be. And my personal favorite

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comes from Hartiste, who called it globo homo.

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It's my favorite because it's that trademark

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trenchant innuendo and double meaning that Hartiste

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became so famous for because, of course, globo

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homo evokes the all -purpose slur of homo that

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was common in childhood parlance a generation

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ago. But more significantly, it comes from the

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Greek... prefix homos which means same and it

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is similar to the great nothing the process of

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vacuuming up all of the variety of expressions

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of human action through culture and politics

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and religion and turning them into a globally

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homogenized enlightened hedonism devoid of anything

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more than the immediate avoidance of discomfort

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and the continual stream of pleasure. That is

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fed to the masses. This is Aldous Huxley's idea

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of Soma in Brave New World. It's fed to the masses

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so that the elite institutions, the members,

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the ruling class that controls through a sort

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of committee. what the system or the managerial

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states, bureaucratic states, globo -homo does,

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the decisions that it makes. As to those decisions,

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whatever term is used, what it is getting at

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is the confluence of institutional forces that

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seem culturally and politically totally impervious

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to challenge, whether it be financial or political

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or cultural. No matter how much these institutions

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seem to fail objectively, think of the Iraq War

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or the response to covid the financial crash

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of 2008 or the migrant invasion of europe no

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matter how often and continuously the managerial

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state fails by any sort of objective metric well

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other than the objective metric of sustaining

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their own ability to continue to control and

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direct events other than that metric they seem

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to continuously fail on all fronts and yet undeterred,

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roll on like a juggernaut. And one of the things

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that unites all of these critics, Kaczynski,

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Saas, Wood, Jarvin, Gottfried, Francis, Wilson,

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Donovan, the Bible, Hartiste, and so many others

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offering critiques, whether they be of the neo

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-reactionary variety as these are, or from other

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angles, no matter what the critiques are, they

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all are quite uniformly impotent when it comes

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to... having any impact, any effect on how that

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system operates. This is going to be a bit of

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a potpourri recording. That is a good enough

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segue into one thing that might potentially disrupt

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Globo Homo's vice grip on everything, and that

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is artificial intelligence. This week, C -Dance

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2 .0 has been made available to the public and...

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If you haven't seen what CDance is capable of,

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I encourage doing so. There's a link in the show

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notes that provides a menagerie of different

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things that CDance has been able to do just in

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the first week of being open to the internet

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using public. And it has blasted through the

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uncanny valley that has characterized AI. video

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productions over the last couple of years where

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it is really the untrained eye can detect almost

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immediately that what is being presented is not

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live action. It's comparable to CGI and in a

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lot of cases, quite bad CGI, especially on particular

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aspects like human movements, mouth movements,

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and the coordination between sound and the movement

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of lips, hands, walking, a lot of the subtle

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things that have to do with human movement in

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particular, that up until Seedance were clearly

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not real humans operating in real space, but

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that is gone with Seedance 2. It looks and sounds

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just like actors and actresses you'd be familiar

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with. There are a series of AI -generated scenes

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riffing off of... Breaking Bad that look like

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they could have come directly from a cut from

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the show. I've not seen it, but I've seen clips

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here and there. And so the redone versions of

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scenes take place from a little bit of a different

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angle and a bit of a different spin on the event.

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So this isn't just directly copying something

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else that was already produced. This is creating

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something that could have been included in the

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show series production to represent various scenes,

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but wasn't. And of course it wasn't because it

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wasn't actually recorded this way when the show

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was made over a decade ago. But now, from the

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footage that exists from the previous show and

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the capacity of the C -Dance 2 .0... underlying

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its operations that creates new video and audio

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effects that look like they could have come from

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the exact time that the actual thing that is

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being impersonated or that is having a new reimagined

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spin on it presented, that you would be totally

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unaware of that if not for having previous knowledge

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of the show that is being riffed off of. And

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one of the criticisms of AI is that it's putatively

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can't come up with anything new. It's just remixing

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things that already exist. But while that might

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be in some sense tautologically accurate, it

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doesn't really what critics insinuate that it

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means. Because, of course, the same criticism

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could be made of any author who is writing some

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new novel or some... new piece of non -fiction

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unless he is coming up with neologisms that are

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literally words that have never been used before

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he's just recombining words that already exist

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out there but the output i don't think people

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would say well there's nothing new in here because

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we have definitions for all of these words and

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phrases and terms being used ergo this isn't

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anything new But by taking the collective output

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of humanity that is recorded in some digital

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form and remixing it in effectively infinite

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different ways that can be guided by simple prompts,

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input prompts from users, that is every bit as

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novel as a new show or movie or book or... Soon,

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computer game being created. What CDance 2 .0

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shows is that big budget action slop, romantic

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comedies, anime, horror, all of the different

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genres of film are going to be trivially easy

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to produce. What CGI did to Claymation is going

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to be what AI is going to do to CGI. Not just

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CGI, but the entire... The entire edifice that

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surrounds video production and audio production

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now. The studios and the sets, the actors, the

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agents, the stunt people, the years it takes

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on sites to cobble together these big budget

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Hollywood productions that have production costs

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running into the... hundreds of millions of dollars,

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it is very little, if any, exaggeration to say

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that that is, we're on the cusp of that being

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able to be done by a single person sitting on

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a personal computer in his basement. That person

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sitting in his basement coming up with things

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via prompt for CDance 2 .0 to create isn't as,

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of course, easily able to take advantage of the

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network effect that Universal Studios can. But

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that was the same type of argument that was made

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when YouTube was in its seminal stages. Sure,

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people could broadcast themselves on a screen

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just like ABC or CBS, NBC, Fox, whatever did,

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but they don't have any network effect. Nobody's

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going to go seek them out, and if they do, they're

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not going to be able to share their experience

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with anyone else because there isn't that shared

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social and cultural experience that people have

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by watching the NBC nightly news. Well, here

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we are today where the largest YouTube creators

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get orders of magnitude, literally hundreds times,

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not hundreds more, hundreds of times more views

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than any of the old network stations do. And

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unlike the YouTube versus TV network battle.

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yesterday. Seedance versus the old studio production

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battle is one in which the old studios have an

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additional major weakness that the networks didn't

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have and that the network Model was a free one,

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subjected to some advertisements, but it didn't

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cost anything to partake in what the networks

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were putting out. But of course, to watch studio

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productions, especially when they first come

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out, requires an expenditure of resources. And

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so not only are the network big budget productions

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going to be almost indistinguishable in terms

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of the... on -screen product they're also going

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to take years instead of hours to produce and

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they're going to ask you to fork over a bunch

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of money to have access to them while cdance

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will be free or will operate on a sort of freemium

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model where people if they want to be patrons

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can but the general public will be able to watch

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these see dance productions for free. There is

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also the sense among critics of AI that humans

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aren't going to go for this artificially generated

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cultural content, even if it is indistinguishable

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to the naked eye and naked ear from the cultural

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production of individual humans or committees

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of humans in the past. But the practical problem

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aside of being able to distinguish what's what.

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Because undoubtedly, and it's probably already

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happened, undoubtedly, once it becomes impossible,

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effectively impossible with the naked eye or

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ear to detect what's AI and what's not, what

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people are going to create, and I use that term

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loosely to refer to simply putting in prompts

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into these AI systems to, quote, create, unquote.

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movies and songs and books, and that are going

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to, to the extent that they're able to, going

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to market those productions as not being AI,

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as being things that they produce the old -fashioned

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way, at least until the threshold for tolerance

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of AI gets on an equal footing with the old -fashioned

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way of making movies or writing books. And not

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surprisingly, there is a generational component

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to this. The Economist YouGov In a poll conducted

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this week, asked respondents how much they trust

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artificial intelligence, those under the age

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of 30, 12 % said a great deal. Among those aged

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30 to 44, 11%. And then between the ages of 45

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and 64 is 3%. And among those 65 and older, 2%.

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So Zoomers and millennials. about five times,

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five to six times, is likely to express a great

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deal of trust in artificial intelligence compared

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to Xers and Boomers. From the digitally artificial

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to the analog artificial, YouGov also ran a recent

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survey questioning respondents on their views

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of foreign leaders, and this is among Americans,

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people in the United States, U .S. citizens,

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presumably. and actually looking at the technical

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notes explicitly, U .S. citizens, they were asked

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about 25 world leaders and asked to rank them

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as those that they have the most favorable view

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of and those they have the least favorable view

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of. And in terms of net favorability, the one

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who came out on top among those 25 world leaders

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that were asked about is the president of our

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greatest ally. And I don't mean our oldest ally,

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although Macron does do pretty well coming in

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seventh place among the 25. world leaders and

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i'm not even talking about our greatest ally

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in the 20th century in the early part of the

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21st century benjamin netanyahu in fact he does

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quite poorly coming in at 17th out of 25 coming

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in below donald trump but no number one is the

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man who before becoming president was famous

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for playing a piano with his penis and that is

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zielinski of ukraine And it's not even particularly

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close. He beats the second place, who is Mark

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Carney of Canada, by eight points. Donald Trump

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comes in at 16th out of 25. Rounding out the

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very bottom of the list is Kim Jong -un of North

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Korea at 25th, but just behind him. Only beating

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him by a single point is Vladimir Putin of Russia.

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And so the most favorably viewed world leader

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among Americans is Zelensky, and the second most

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poorly viewed leader among Americans is Putin.

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And so here, with everything that was promised

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about Ukraine falling through and being... unequivocally

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now at this point shown that Ukraine cannot win

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this war with Russia, that it never had a chance,

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that the only reason it's been able to limp along

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is because of perpetual infusions of support,

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military and financial support from the West.

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While Russia, which unlike Ukraine, is a real

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country with a real leader who is popular among...

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the Russian citizenry who has put the country

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back together and who has managed in the face

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of a war on the border that has cost Russia a

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lot in terms of blood and treasure, has strengthened

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the Russian economy and has done so in tandem

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with a reclamation back to... traditional Russian

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culture, both secular and spiritual, in terms

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of the embrace of the Orthodox Russian Church.

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So here is yet another example of where the managerial

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state or the system, the blob, the nothing, globo,

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homo, whatever term you want to use to describe

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it. Here is another example where since 2022,

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it has just fallen flat on its face and failed

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entirely. All of the objectives that were put

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out have not been reached. All of the promises

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made have not been kept. Hundreds of billions,

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if not trillions of dollars at this point have

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been siphoned off from the West into this corrupt

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money laundering pit of lies and death and destruction.

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And yet through all of that, the unstoppable

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juggernaut maintains its control and has even

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managed to convince if this polling is to be

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believed. And as we've discussed previously,

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there is plenty of reason to put a lot of stake

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in these polls. Economist YouGov is a very reliable

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polling operation that has shown impressive predictive

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power in the past. And so if we take this seriously,

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as we should, we see that, again, the global

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homo, the system, the managerial state, it gets

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what it wants. And even though it loses objectively

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in terms of all the things that it promised on

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the eve of this latest debacle that it forced

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the world kicking and screaming into, that even

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after failing, it continues to chug along, not

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much worse for the wear. And it even gets the

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assent of the people who have suffered because

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of what the Western world has done over the last...

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four years in funding and impoverishing its own

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citizenry to money launder and prop up this proxy

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military regime to engage in a hopeless struggle

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against russia just to enfeeble russia i guess

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at least ostensibly that's the reason i think

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that real reason is more A mix of glee and seeing

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the bloodlust of a bunch of Slavs killing each

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other and also the money laundering opportunities

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that Ukraine has afforded members of the managerial

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elite. But whatever those confluence of reasons,

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the result is, while the Ukrainian population

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lost, the Western system, of which Zelensky is

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part of, won. And speaking of winning... Contra

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Candace Owens, who asserted that the TPUSA put

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on, quote, all -American halftime show, unquote,

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that was to compete with the Bad Bunny Super

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Bowl halftime performance that featured someone

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who didn't speak or doesn't speak English, putting

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together a halftime show that featured a bunch

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of Central and South American countries' flags.

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and celebrated that culture not just in Latin

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America, but inside of the United States as well,

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most iconically with a bodega storefront, La

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Marquita, with a neon sign in the window that

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says, We Accept EBT. As an alternative to that,

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TPUSA put on what was styled an all -American

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halftime show featuring Artist without the mainstream

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popularity today of Bad Bunny, who is allegedly

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the most downloaded musician in the history of

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the world. The headliner of that TPUSA show being

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Kid Rock, and that is the only name I'm familiar

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with at all from the lineup. Kid Rock was a pretty

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big name from about 20 years ago in the aughts.

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But even in his heyday, the toppy wasn't equivalent

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to a Taylor Swift today. And yet the All -American

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halftime show was, by any objective measure,

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quite a success. In the first day after it was

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played, TPUSA claimed that it had something like

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20 million total views across all platforms,

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and Candace Owens came out scoffing at that,

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saying that that had to have been based on the

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comment ratio on the YouTube page, that that

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had to have been artificial. And there are ways

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to goose those numbers through bot farms and

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the like, but to such an enormous scale, it would

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have required YouTube being an accomplice who...

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through the platform itself, artificially boosted

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the numbers without users, whether they be real

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people or bots, clicking on the link, or it would

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have required a bot farm push, the likes of which

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have never happened up to this point with such

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rapidity. And while that, I suppose, wouldn't

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be impossible, given the enormous amount of money...

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the hundreds of millions of dollars that TPUSA

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has made in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death,

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that wouldn't be impossible. But the simpler

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explanation and the one that is backed up by

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this Economist YouGov poll that was conducted

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this week that asked respondents if they had

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watched the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl, the Super

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Bowl halftime show, or the All -American halftime

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show, well, this pool of respondents, some 24

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% say that yes, they did. quote, watch the All

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-American halftime show featuring Kid Rock and

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Brantley Gilbert, unquote. And that broadly checks

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out. The poll also asked respondents what percentages,

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these are adults over the age of 18 in the United

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States, watched the Super Bowl this year. The

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figure that Economist YouGov found was 53%, and

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the official... TV rating for the Super Bowl

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was 128 million viewers in the United States,

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and that comes to right about exactly at 53 %

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of adults in the United States, about half of

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them. If there's 128 million who watch the Super

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Bowl, well, that's among about 250 million adults

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in the United States. And so that 24 % of all

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adults watching the All -American Halftime Show

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comes to about 60 million people. Now, not all

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those people watched it live. which is where,

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and I need to make a quick addendum looking here,

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I said that that was 20 million viewers. That's

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what TPUSA claimed among all platforms. I misspoke.

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That is just on TPUSA's YouTube channel. And

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so across all platforms and all iterations, the

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Economist YouGov survey suggests that about 60

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million people have seen it in one form or another.

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And so while it might be gay, the numbers there

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do not appear to be fake. And apropos of not

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a lot of anything, the Economist YouGov poll

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posed the question of support or opposition to

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the death penalty. Just 29 % of respondents said

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that they are opposed to the death penalty. 47

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% were in favor and 24 % not sure. That is a

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figure that hasn't moved much at all in the last

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generation. It's not one I track particularly

00:25:36.470 --> 00:25:39.849
closely, but there is a general sense that the

00:25:39.849 --> 00:25:43.130
cultural ratchet always shifts to the left and

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support for capital punishment tends to be associated

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with right -wing political beliefs. And in fact,

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that's the case with this poll, with 73 % of

00:25:53.130 --> 00:25:55.410
Trump supporters favoring the death penalty compared

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to just 24 % of Harris voters in the 2024 election.

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But where the pro -capital punishment side really

00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:06.400
gets the advantage is among political independents

00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:12.079
who 41 % to 29 % favor the death penalty for

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convicted murderers. Also included was a question

00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:17.920
about legal immigration. Most of the attention

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and the ICE deportations and everything surrounding

00:26:23.019 --> 00:26:27.759
that that has been part of the... National conversation,

00:26:27.779 --> 00:26:31.359
as they say, over the last several weeks. That

00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.980
all has to do with illegal immigration. The question

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of legal immigration, which by the numbers now

00:26:39.740 --> 00:26:43.799
on a year -over -year basis is the more significant

00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:48.799
form of immigration in terms of the raw numbers

00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:53.019
of people coming to live inside the geographic

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boundaries of the United States. To the question

00:26:56.109 --> 00:26:59.349
of whether legal immigration should either be

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reduced or halted entirely, among Trump supporters,

00:27:04.089 --> 00:27:08.109
49 % want it reduced or stopped compared to just

00:27:08.109 --> 00:27:10.650
8 % of Harris voters. And so that breaks down

00:27:10.650 --> 00:27:14.170
to an overall population support for reducing

00:27:14.170 --> 00:27:17.849
or eliminating legal immigration of 29%, a little

00:27:17.849 --> 00:27:19.789
less than one in three Americans want to see

00:27:19.789 --> 00:27:23.599
a reduction in legal immigration. One interesting

00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.900
thing that distinguishes immigration restrictionist

00:27:26.900 --> 00:27:29.900
sentiments by whether the immigration in question

00:27:29.900 --> 00:27:35.279
is legal or illegal is that the... the question

00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:39.279
of illegal immigration is less racially divisive.

00:27:39.299 --> 00:27:44.420
Among whites, 31 % support a reduction or elimination

00:27:44.420 --> 00:27:48.099
of legal immigration. That figure for blacks

00:27:48.099 --> 00:27:52.440
is 25 % and for Hispanics is 28%. The reason

00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.940
it is less racially divisive is because unlike

00:27:55.940 --> 00:27:59.660
illegal immigration, which is largely coded as

00:27:59.660 --> 00:28:05.309
Hispanic migration or black migration in the

00:28:05.309 --> 00:28:10.269
case of haiti legal immigration is largely thought

00:28:10.269 --> 00:28:13.269
of as pertaining accurately thought of as pertaining

00:28:13.269 --> 00:28:19.710
to asia in general and subcontinental indian

00:28:19.710 --> 00:28:24.869
immigration in particular and Blacks and Hispanics,

00:28:24.869 --> 00:28:28.109
what we used to call NOMs, non -Asian minorities

00:28:28.109 --> 00:28:32.890
in the United States, are not as concerned about

00:28:32.890 --> 00:28:39.190
the prospects of Asian aspiring migrants to the

00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:43.730
West as they are about Blacks and Hispanic migrants

00:28:43.730 --> 00:28:46.450
to the United States. The YouGov Economist survey

00:28:46.450 --> 00:28:50.740
doesn't break out responses. among Asians, but

00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:54.779
I suspect if it did, that there would be the

00:28:54.779 --> 00:28:57.400
strongest support for legal migration would be

00:28:57.400 --> 00:28:59.859
found among Asians living in the United States.

00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.700
The CDC has released preliminary numbers on births

00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:10.539
in 2025, and a talking point on the heritage

00:29:10.539 --> 00:29:14.140
American right has been that non -Hispanic white

00:29:14.140 --> 00:29:19.130
births actually ticked back up to just barely

00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:23.190
constitute a majority of recorded births in the

00:29:23.190 --> 00:29:26.390
United States in 2025. And that is not a function

00:29:26.390 --> 00:29:29.309
of the white birth rate going up. The white birth

00:29:29.309 --> 00:29:32.450
rate in 2025 among non -Hispanic white women

00:29:32.450 --> 00:29:36.450
came in a little under 52, whereas when Biden

00:29:36.450 --> 00:29:39.769
was on his way out, it was over 53. And so it

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:43.910
continues to drop. or in the last couple of quarters

00:29:43.910 --> 00:29:48.009
of Trump's second term, it has stayed steady.

00:29:48.150 --> 00:29:52.630
But the reason it has now, at least for 2025

00:29:52.630 --> 00:29:56.269
preliminarily, represented an outright majority

00:29:56.269 --> 00:30:03.269
at just a hair above 50%, up from 49 % the year

00:30:03.269 --> 00:30:07.150
before, is because Hispanic and especially Black

00:30:07.150 --> 00:30:11.019
fertility has dropped, and that really is remarkable.

00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:15.220
For the first time possibly in all of U .S. history,

00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.480
certainly the first time in the modern age, black

00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:21.220
fertility in the United States is lower than

00:30:21.220 --> 00:30:23.599
white fertility, and that's among non -Hispanics.

00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.079
The most recent figures for white fertility is

00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:31.480
52 births per thousand women, whereas for blacks

00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:35.819
it is just under 50 at 49 .6. To reach a total

00:30:35.819 --> 00:30:40.279
fertility rate of which is about what is required

00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:43.660
for replacement, requires a birth rate per 1

00:30:43.660 --> 00:30:47.299
,000 women in the 70s. And unfortunately, what

00:30:47.299 --> 00:30:51.019
the CDC reports data in primarily is birth rate

00:30:51.019 --> 00:30:53.579
figures, whereas for the sake of clarity, total

00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:55.700
fertility rate is a lot easier to understand.

00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.119
It's hard to conceptualize what does 50 live

00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.079
births per 1 ,000 women in a year mean compared

00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.299
to 70 live births. among 1 ,000 women in a year,

00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:09.119
whereas total fertility rate gives you what the

00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.740
expected total number of children a woman will

00:31:12.740 --> 00:31:16.000
have over her lifetime at any given point, and

00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.980
that's a lot easier to grok because if it's less

00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:21.359
than two, then it's below replacement, and if

00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.700
it's above two, then it's above replacement.

00:31:23.940 --> 00:31:26.400
And just intuitively, you can sense that if a

00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.619
woman has one child over the course of her entire

00:31:28.619 --> 00:31:31.059
life, that's below fertility, whereas if she

00:31:31.059 --> 00:31:34.079
has three, that's pretty high fertility. But

00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:38.539
that corresponds to a birth rate of 30 and a

00:31:38.539 --> 00:31:42.299
birth rate of 90 per 1 ,000, respectively. That

00:31:42.299 --> 00:31:44.960
is harder to intuitively make sense of. And we'll

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.880
bookend this with a look at the total fertility

00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.599
rates by race in the United States. But to get

00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.359
back to the birth rate, among whites, it's gone

00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:58.599
from 53 in 2023 to 52 now in 2026, presumably,

00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.640
the end of 2025, which is a decline in the birth

00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.390
rate of about... 2 % in the last two years. By

00:32:05.390 --> 00:32:09.269
contrast, among blacks in 2023, it was over 56,

00:32:09.430 --> 00:32:12.470
and now it's under 50, which is a decline of

00:32:12.470 --> 00:32:16.130
about 12 % in the black fertility rate in just

00:32:16.130 --> 00:32:19.269
the last two years. The Hispanic birth rate has

00:32:19.269 --> 00:32:22.289
declined at a rate about in between those two,

00:32:22.349 --> 00:32:26.930
going from 66 a couple years ago to 63 now, which

00:32:26.930 --> 00:32:30.529
represents a decline of about 5 % in the Hispanic

00:32:30.529 --> 00:32:33.299
birth rate in the United States. I'm not sure

00:32:33.299 --> 00:32:35.500
exactly how to interpret this. It's significant,

00:32:35.579 --> 00:32:37.859
and not just statistically significant, but also

00:32:37.859 --> 00:32:41.019
culturally. Is it Roe versus Wade being overturned,

00:32:41.019 --> 00:32:43.880
playing into this in some way? The thought was

00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.099
that that would boost fertility, especially on

00:32:46.099 --> 00:32:49.160
the lower end of the socioeconomic status ladder,

00:32:49.299 --> 00:32:51.640
since in some states abortions couldn't happen,

00:32:51.740 --> 00:32:54.119
so the thought would be that the people with

00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:57.079
the lowest conscientiousness, the lowest... capacity

00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.039
for forward planning would be the ones who would

00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.700
end up having more children than would have otherwise

00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:05.579
been the case if Roe versus Wade hadn't been

00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:10.460
overturned and abortion protections were kept

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:13.839
in place in mostly red states where the populations

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.990
didn't want abortions occurring. but maybe even

00:33:16.990 --> 00:33:18.869
in the case of the lower end of the socioeconomic

00:33:18.869 --> 00:33:22.490
stratum, that without the abortion backstop,

00:33:22.509 --> 00:33:25.369
or at least the sense that there is an abortion

00:33:25.369 --> 00:33:29.289
backstop, of course abortions can still be obtained

00:33:29.289 --> 00:33:33.990
in most places in the country, but with the idea

00:33:33.990 --> 00:33:37.630
that that is more difficult to pull off, there

00:33:37.630 --> 00:33:41.009
is less unprotected sex going on, especially

00:33:41.009 --> 00:33:43.829
among blacks. Taking a look at the total fertility

00:33:43.829 --> 00:33:47.589
rate by race from the CDC, this data is from

00:33:47.589 --> 00:33:50.509
the end of 2024, so the preliminary data from

00:33:50.509 --> 00:33:53.329
2025 is out, but it won't be completely formalized

00:33:53.329 --> 00:33:55.890
and cleaned up for a few months. This is the

00:33:55.890 --> 00:34:00.369
latest annualized data that is available. The

00:34:00.369 --> 00:34:03.069
overall total fertility rate in the United States

00:34:03.069 --> 00:34:07.220
is 1 .63. Again, replacement is a little bit

00:34:07.220 --> 00:34:10.840
over 2%. It's often referred to in the shorthand

00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.059
as being 2 .1. That's misleading with... infant

00:34:15.059 --> 00:34:18.420
death being as low as it is, it's probably closer

00:34:18.420 --> 00:34:22.300
in the developed world to something like 2 .02,

00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.639
but I think just using two as a mental benchmark

00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.880
is a perfectly fine and intuitive way of understanding

00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.539
whether fertility is below, at, or above replacement.

00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.699
Because on an individual level, the procreative

00:34:39.699 --> 00:34:42.719
question is one in which if you have one or zero

00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.300
children, you are losing ground. If you have

00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:47.380
two, you're treading water. And if you have more

00:34:47.380 --> 00:34:51.460
than two, then you are expanding. And so at 1

00:34:51.460 --> 00:34:56.219
.63, the total fertility rate of the United States

00:34:56.219 --> 00:34:59.440
is well below replacement. The lowest fertility

00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:03.320
rate of any measured... Racial or ethnic group

00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:05.760
in the United States is among American Indians

00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:14.860
at 1 .37. Next is Asians at 1 .46, followed then

00:35:14.860 --> 00:35:17.420
by blacks, again, below white replacement at

00:35:17.420 --> 00:35:21.739
1 .52. Whites are at just a hair higher at 1

00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:28.750
.53. Hispanics at 1 .95 are just a hair below

00:35:28.750 --> 00:35:31.929
replacement in the United States. And then Native

00:35:31.929 --> 00:35:35.050
Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders come in at 2

00:35:35.050 --> 00:35:39.670
.22, the only group in the United States that

00:35:39.670 --> 00:35:42.989
is above replacement currently. Another continuing

00:35:42.989 --> 00:35:48.570
trend in the nature of natalism in America, the

00:35:48.570 --> 00:35:52.670
only age range where birth rates are growing.

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:58.059
is among women aged 40 and over. That has continued

00:35:58.059 --> 00:36:00.679
to increase over the last couple of years. It's

00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.480
a trend that has been in place for decades now,

00:36:04.780 --> 00:36:10.380
but that increasing modest uptick is from a very

00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:14.579
low base to start with. The CDC breaks down birth

00:36:14.579 --> 00:36:19.599
rates by five -year age ranges, the highest birth

00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.190
rate range currently. and these numbers again

00:36:22.190 --> 00:36:27.730
are from 2024, is among women aged 30 to 34.

00:36:28.070 --> 00:36:30.530
Having in the last couple of years surpassed

00:36:30.530 --> 00:36:32.289
what used to be the highest, which was among

00:36:32.289 --> 00:36:39.050
those aged 25 to 29, and that continuing increase

00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:42.510
in the median maternal age surely has something

00:36:42.510 --> 00:36:45.369
to do with the rise of attendant health problems

00:36:45.369 --> 00:36:48.389
in kids, including things like an increase in

00:36:48.389 --> 00:36:50.880
early -term births. which is another thing that

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.719
the CDC monitors. Early -term births are on the

00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.159
rise. Expected -term, normal -term births and

00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.460
late -term births are both on the decline. More

00:37:00.460 --> 00:37:03.519
C -sections, more gestational diabetes and the

00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:07.880
like. The healthiest age, that is the most nubile

00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.159
age, which is something men can assent to if

00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.679
they have a pair of eyes that work, is in the

00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.710
age range of 20 to 24. But the birth rate for

00:37:16.710 --> 00:37:19.969
women in that age range is 54 .2, which is actually

00:37:19.969 --> 00:37:22.949
marginally lower than the birth rate for women

00:37:22.949 --> 00:37:27.349
aged 35 to 39. So women in the United States

00:37:27.349 --> 00:37:29.489
are more likely to have children in their late

00:37:29.489 --> 00:37:33.309
30s than they are in their early 20s. If American

00:37:33.309 --> 00:37:36.369
total fertility is below replacement, and it

00:37:36.369 --> 00:37:40.170
has been since the 90s, then why does the U .S.

00:37:40.230 --> 00:37:43.690
population keep growing? One major reason, of

00:37:43.690 --> 00:37:46.980
course, is... Immigration, net migration to the

00:37:46.980 --> 00:37:48.679
United States is positive. That is, there are

00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.699
more people coming into the country than leaving.

00:37:50.900 --> 00:37:54.880
But another reason is because the average age

00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.539
has to go from low in a population up to high

00:37:59.539 --> 00:38:03.980
in a population before absolute numbers. And

00:38:03.980 --> 00:38:07.539
a generation that helps make that easy to understand

00:38:07.539 --> 00:38:09.800
are the baby boomers in the United States, where

00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:13.920
there was a... post -war population boom, a bunch

00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.719
of babies being born in the late 40s and the

00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:21.559
50s and into the early 60s before the continued

00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:25.139
secular decline in fertility took hold in the

00:38:25.139 --> 00:38:30.139
70s, that bulge of baby boomers meant that in

00:38:30.139 --> 00:38:33.239
the 70s, the median age of an American was 28.

00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:37.099
If you were in the 70s, 28 years old, which is

00:38:37.099 --> 00:38:40.440
about where the boomers would have been in 1975,

00:38:41.469 --> 00:38:45.809
Donald Trump and Joe Biden were 29 and 33 respectively.

00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:50.710
If you were 27 in the 1970s, there were as many

00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:53.230
Americans younger than you as there were Americans

00:38:53.230 --> 00:38:55.550
older than you. But as subsequent generations

00:38:55.550 --> 00:38:59.500
had fertility below replacement. The population

00:38:59.500 --> 00:39:01.380
was still growing because the boomers weren't

00:39:01.380 --> 00:39:03.400
dying off. They were just getting older. And

00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:05.860
so the median age continued to increase and increase.

00:39:06.019 --> 00:39:09.159
And now the median age in the United States has

00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.980
gone up more than a decade on average from the

00:39:12.980 --> 00:39:16.429
1970s with the average American now. little over

00:39:16.429 --> 00:39:21.250
39 years old 39 .2 as of 2024 and so if you are

00:39:21.250 --> 00:39:24.949
39 now in America there are as many people younger

00:39:24.949 --> 00:39:28.389
than you as there are older than you and so what

00:39:28.389 --> 00:39:30.409
happens to a population that's on the decline

00:39:30.409 --> 00:39:34.050
is first it's it's young then it becomes old

00:39:34.050 --> 00:39:37.090
then it begins to shrink and so most of the country

00:39:37.090 --> 00:39:40.869
is still in the going from young, getting older

00:39:40.869 --> 00:39:43.829
stage, but there are several states that are

00:39:43.829 --> 00:39:47.369
now in the not just old, but declining because

00:39:47.369 --> 00:39:50.570
more people are dying off than being born. Those

00:39:50.570 --> 00:39:55.789
states as of 2024 are Delaware, Rhode Island,

00:39:56.030 --> 00:40:00.690
Kentucky, Ohio, Arkansas, Alabama, New Mexico,

00:40:01.050 --> 00:40:03.869
Vermont, New Hampshire, Mississippi, Michigan,

00:40:04.250 --> 00:40:08.369
Florida, Oregon, Maine, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania.

00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.539
The Rust Belt states are definitely overrepresented

00:40:11.539 --> 00:40:14.780
there, as is New England. This doesn't tell the

00:40:14.780 --> 00:40:18.139
whole story, of course. Net migration matters,

00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:21.860
too, in terms of births and deaths. It's not

00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:24.860
as though New York is some bastion of fecundity

00:40:24.860 --> 00:40:27.780
in America. Its fertility is well below replacement,

00:40:28.059 --> 00:40:30.460
and its fertility rate is actually lower than

00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:33.119
Florida, but Florida... is experiencing more

00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.800
deaths than births in large part because a lot

00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.420
of people live in New York, you get old, and

00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:40.960
then go down to Florida to die. But it is the

00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:44.840
old white, and also to a significant degree black,

00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:49.940
but not... immigrant -heavy states where deaths

00:40:49.940 --> 00:40:53.539
are outstripping births because those states

00:40:53.539 --> 00:40:56.940
have already moved past the aging process to

00:40:56.940 --> 00:40:59.719
one in which people are dying off faster than

00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.880
they're being born. But those states are just

00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:06.250
cars farther along on the... same train that

00:41:06.250 --> 00:41:09.010
is heading the same direction because there is

00:41:09.010 --> 00:41:12.489
not, as has been mentioned before here, there

00:41:12.489 --> 00:41:15.969
is not a single state in the United States where

00:41:15.969 --> 00:41:19.710
fertility is at replacement, let alone above

00:41:19.710 --> 00:41:22.550
replacement. And on that sterile note, we'll

00:41:22.550 --> 00:41:24.590
end it for this week. Thanks for listening. Talk

00:41:24.590 --> 00:41:39.210
to you next time. Thank you.
