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So, another one of the questions that I decided

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to answer this, but I felt it was necessary.

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All of you aren't going to have experienced this.

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Some of you have, but all of us have experienced

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lost. But this question says, would God forgive?

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suicide. I personally have a number of friends

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that have lost their lives to suicide, and I

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have struggled my life with this very question.

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And the reason I invited the Alexanders up is

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because they have firsthand experience as suicide

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loss survivors. So Matt and Sarah, can you just

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share a little bit about your story with us today?

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Okay, so we have three wonderful children, Tyler,

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Aiden, and Ella. I could be up here all day talking

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about all the greatness, but today we're going

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to focus on my youngest son, Aiden, or our youngest

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son, Aiden. He was the kind of child who would

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just light up a room. He was funny, intelligent,

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athletic, empathetic. I can remember back to

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a story. He was 15. He got his learner's permit.

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We decided to take him to HCC. because there's

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no cars around, and that's what you need to do

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when the child's learning how to drive. And I

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remember him saying that, wow, this driving is

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a lot harder than it was on video games. Which

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worried me. So then one day we decided we were

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going to work on parking. And we were parking

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a very small car, mind you. But every time he'd

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try to park, I'd tell him to get out and look

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around, see if he did a good job. And he would

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get in a little discouraged every time, like,

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no, it wasn't good. He'd over -align, whatever.

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So then we kept doing that. Eventually, one time

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he parked, and he nailed it. I didn't let him

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know he nailed it yet, but he nailed it. And

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I said, go ahead and get out and take a look.

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And he comes back in the car with a grin from

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ear to ear and just goes, I did that. Unfortunately,

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on April 19th, 2021, Matt and I both received

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a phone call from my mom somewhere around 8 .30

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in the morning telling us, don't ask any questions,

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get in your car and come home right now. We did

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exactly that. And as Matt sped through every

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single red light in Hagerstown and I was driving

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120 miles an hour on I -70 East, we were able

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to figure out what happened. Our youngest son,

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Aiden, at the young age of 15, died from suicide

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at our home. I remember that drive very vividly,

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and the entire drive home, I remember begging

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and pleading, please, God, not my son, not my

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baby. Don't let this be true. Despite all of

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the amazingness Matt shared about Aiden, which

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is just the tip of the iceberg, unfortunately,

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there were people in his life, his classmates,

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his teammates, who made him question his value,

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who made them question his amazingness, and ultimately,

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it skewed his lens and contributed to his decision.

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The ripples that got created on April 19th shattered

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our innocence. rearranged our entire lives in

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ways we never could have imagined, and has changed

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the trajectory of the lives we live today. I

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want to pause here. Many of us have had similar

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thoughts in our life, but if you personally are

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dealing with thoughts of what it would be like

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if I wasn't around, I want you to not believe

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any of the lies and understand that I love you.

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We love you. But more importantly, God wants

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you to have the best because he loves you. So,

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guys, what would you say to somebody that's going

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through this or maybe a similar season? So, I

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will say from firsthand experience that you're

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going to want to give up. Those thoughts are

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understanding. Rudy stole my thunder a little

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bit. I was going to change my speech a little

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bit. I love you, and more importantly, God loves

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you. So don't do that. I would tell others that,

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yeah, this sucks. It's more devastating than

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anybody could ever imagine. It doesn't make sense.

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I don't know why. I might likely never know why.

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As humans, we have a tendency to withdraw inside

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of ourselves, and that's what I, what Matt and

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I did for now five years. We still find ourselves

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doing it today. We try really hard not to, but

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we recognize it. I'd also say that while, yes,

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this is really hard, and yes, it sucks, that

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we have to just keep going, even if it's just

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one breath at a time, one second at a time. We

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just have to keep putting one foot in front of

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the other. So, did you do it alone? No, you cannot

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do it by yourself. I'm going to steal Sarah's

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thunder here. We had to do it together, but more

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importantly, we had to do it with God. It took

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about three years after Aiden's death before

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Matt and I invited God onto this journey with

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us, and I can honestly say until that happened,

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we did not actually feel any real healing. We

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were stuck where we were, and God is the one

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who has gotten us through it. So you said doing

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it together, and that's something we're going

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to come back to when we get to the action steps.

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But I want to take a moment to answer the question,

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will God forgive it? And I want to answer it

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this way. Remember, there isn't any work or act

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that you can do that gets you into heaven. There

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isn't any work or act that you can do that keeps

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you out of heaven. The work was paid for by the

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sacrifice Jesus made on the cross. What gets

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you into heaven? The one thing you can do is

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accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. What keeps

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you out of heaven is rejecting Jesus. Since we

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are covered by the blood of Jesus, our ticket

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was stamped the day we truly invited Him into

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our hearts as our Savior. I don't believe suicide

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is a determining factor. to getting you into

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heaven. I believe it has to do with accepting

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Jesus. That's the determining factor. So Sarah,

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in our conversations over the past couple years,

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I've used the word committed suicide. And a couple

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weeks ago when we met, you gently corrected me.

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So if you would, could you just share with us,

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everyone else, what you shared with me? Yeah,

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when we refer to the cause of someone's death,

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we don't say they committed a heart attack, they

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committed cancer, they committed kidney disease,

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because it's not something that they did. It's

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something that has happened to them. And so when

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we use that term committed in reference to suicide,

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what we're doing is we're alluding that the person

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who died from suicide committed a crime or a

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sin and they didn't. What actually ends up happening

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is suicide is the result from an illness. It's

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a result from mental illness. Just like heart

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disease, just like cancer, mental illness is

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also a real disease. So I want to look at 1 Corinthians

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and Paul's first letter. In chapter 10, it says,

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No temptation has ever overtaken you that is

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not common to man, meaning others have already

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lived what you are living. And after you, others

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will continue to live similar seasons. But God

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has faith when he will not let you be tempted

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beyond your ability. But with the temptation,

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he will also provide the way of escape that you

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may be able to enjoy it. You know, another phrase

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that I'm not a fan of is, God will never give

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you more than you can handle. It's false. Even

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though I just read that scripture, it's not true.

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It's 100 % lies. Because it's only half truth.

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I know plenty of times in my life, God has given

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me more than I can handle. The scripture says

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he will provide the way of escape that you may

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be able to endure it. Ultimately, the full truth,

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God will not give you more than you can handle

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as long as you rely on the Holy Spirit to comfort

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and guide you. So ultimately, I can't tell you

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why God separates some. or relieves some suffering

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from people and allows others suffering from

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others. But I do know that God makes a promise

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for suffering. So I want to tell you a quick

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story, another car maintenance story. No, it

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is not changing a tire. I needed to change my

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windshield wipers a couple months ago, so I went

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to Sands and I got these windshield wipers, right?

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I didn't need the instruction because I've changed

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them dozens of times. I didn't need the instructions

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because I'm a man. But the next time it rained,

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after I changed, the next time it rained, I noticed

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my windows were blurry. But it stopped raining,

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and my windows cleared up, so I drove on. Then

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a couple weeks later, I was driving down the

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Falling Waters, and it's blurry again. And as

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I'm driving home from Falling Waters, one of

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the blades just starts breaking off. As I'm crossing

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the river, it flies off. Like I'm going to Sam's

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and returning this thing. And then before I got

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off the interstate, I look over and noticed that

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the passenger side where it fell off was actually

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clear. But the driver's side, can you pick that

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up, man? The driver's side wasn't. Because I

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didn't read the directions. I didn't have all

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the information. That thing was put there to

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protect. The windshield wipers. Know this. God

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puts things in your life to protect you that

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you might not all have the wisdom or understanding.

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But the protections are still there. Now, again,

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I can't tell you why he allows suffering. But

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I can tell you that he provides a promise. And

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I want to read a poem for you. It's one of my

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favorite poems. It's by a woman named Annie Johnson

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Flint. It says this. God has not promised. Sky

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is always blue. Flowers turn pathways all our

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lives through. God has not promised sun without

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rain, joy without sorrow, peace without pain.

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But God has promised strength for the day, rest

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for the labor, light for the way. Grace for the

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trials, help from above. unfailing kindness,

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undying love. It's not about why God allows suffering.

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It's about the promises that God gives us. So

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we want to take today's action steps and walk

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you through how you can remember God's promises

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through the suffering. Because you never have

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to walk alone. The first action step, you need

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to embrace your grief. And your grief doesn't

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have to be something big. something dire, something

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as grave as what we're talking about. It may

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be you leave a job and go to another job. I know

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that I had to grieve giving up teaching when

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I became a pastor. It may be moving out of the

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house that you brought your babies home to and

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raised them in, even if it's a bigger, better

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house. But there's a promise that God gave us

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in the Beatitudes, Matthew 5, that says, blessed

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are those who mourn. for they will be comforted.

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And if you hear nothing else today, hear this.

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Grief is a word of love. Loss of anything puts

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a huge wall in front of us. But God provides

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a gate of grief for us to walk through. And most

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of us do our best to avoid that gate at all costs.

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But no, you can't walk around the wall. and no,

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you can't get over or underneath the wall. The

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only way to get healing is to walk through the

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gate of grief. But once you decide to open the

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gate, you will find that God is there with you,

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and not only will he let you through, and also

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understand that joy and grief, they can coexist.

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So quickly, Matt, Sarah, can you talk about how

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you have been able in your lives to embrace the

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grief. Yeah, so embracing grief was difficult.

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I was searching for answers on how to exist without

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my son, reasons to keep going. And then through

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God and through this community of faith, I realized

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that grief is, this is going to sound really

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weird, but it's a good thing. And the fact that

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you only grieve things that you really loved.

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And the more you loved, the more you will grieve.

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So just keep that in mind. After Aiden died,

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I struggled with God. If I'm being completely

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honest, I pushed him away. I couldn't understand

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why Aiden, why us, why didn't he do something

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to save Aiden? How dare he take my child away

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from me? How dare he call my child home early

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when I knew he had so much life left to live

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and how amazing his life was actually going to

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be? But then about three years in, we have some

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really good friends who said to us, hey, we go

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to this church. It's kind of hippie, but we think

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you might like it. Will you come with us? And

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we said, absolutely. And so we did. We came,

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and look, we're still here. We fell in love immediately,

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and we realized without God, without our church,

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without our faith, without our community, we

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would have continued to feel lost, and our healing

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would have never been able to begin. Which leads

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us to our next point. Don't walk alone. Get an

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ally. Get a friend. But first, part of that goes

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to you and me. We need to be a friend who recognizes

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the grief in others. Matt, Sarah? Yeah, so if

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you know someone going through grief or just

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plain needs help, a lot of tendencies is asking,

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you know, what can I do for you? Is there anything

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you need? Please let me know if you need anything.

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I can tell you firsthand they're not going to

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ask. You just need to do it. It could be mowing

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the lawn. It could be a hug. It could just be

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saying, I'm here. Two days after Aiden's death,

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my best friend just showed up at our door unannounced.

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We had family in town. We had just made plans.

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We were going to place a to -go order at Buffalo

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Wild Wings. We were all excited because we hadn't

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really eaten in two days. And she shows up with

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Kentucky Fried Chicken. She didn't know what

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to do, but she knew she could feed us. And what

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I can tell you is that during those early days

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of our grief, you really do forget how to live.

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If breathing wasn't automatic, I know for a fact

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that there would have been many, many times where

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I would have forgotten to simply do that, just

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breathe. Ecclesiastes 4, 9 and 10. Two people

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are better off than one, for they can help each

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other succeed. If one person fails, the other

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can reach out and help. But someone who falls

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alone is in real trouble. Get a mentor. Get a

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confidant. Get in a growth group. We're going

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to have a tailgate party in a couple weeks. There's

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over 30 groups in this church, one of which is

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called Grief Share. Reach out and get prayer

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ministry. Find a trained therapist. I see a therapist.

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It doesn't mean you're weak if you get a therapist.

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The strong people are the ones who decide to

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reach out and talk to someone. And I'm not advocating

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for medication, but maybe medicine is part of

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your answer. I take anti -anxiety and anti -depressants.

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But understand this. You need to pray like it

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depends on God, but you need to put in the work

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like it depends on you. And part of that includes

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reaching out to your community. And the other

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thing it includes is our last action step. Use

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your story. Psalm 66 tells this in verse 13.

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Come and listen, all who fear God, and I will

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tell you what he did for me. Tell people what

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he did for you. But God did listen. He paid attention

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to my prayer. Praise God who did not ignore my

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prayer or withdraw his unfailing love from me.

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Telling your story is part of your healing. So

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Matt and Sarah, how has embracing your grief

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by sharing your story helps you heal? Aiden passed

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away on a Monday and Wednesday morning when I

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got out of bed, I knew immediately that we were

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going to start a nonprofit organization in Aiden's

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memory. And that foundation gave me a way to

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continue to love Aiden out loud and share his

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amazing story and life with as many people as

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possible. And ultimately introducing Aiden to

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people who haven't had the pleasure of meeting

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him. has been incredibly healing and has actually

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filled some of the fractures in my heart. Yeah,

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we initially need the foundation to pour ourselves

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into something, to keep us busy, keep our minds

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occupied. As we continue to do that, people would

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reach out to us saying, thank you for doing this.

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You've touched my heart. You've helped me. Some

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of it's been as simple as I've asked my kids

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the hard question of, how are you really doing?

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I'll say for as many people as we've helped,

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They've also helped us. It's just as healing

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for us and sometimes very much enjoyable for

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us to talk about him. So it's not a one -way

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street. You may be helping someone, but they

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also may be helping you. So tell your story.

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Even if you've lived a perfect life all your

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life, come tell me your story so I can figure

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out how to do that. But understand that your

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story, like Matt said, it might help someone

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else heal or grow. or walk through the season

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at the ring.
