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Welcome to the July 2025 session of Teaching

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Tuesday at Hub City Vineyard. Tonight, we've

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got an apologetics presentation on why we believe

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God exists. But you can also think of it as why

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it's logical and rational. You might even say

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that God existing is the only logical conclusion

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given the evidence. We'll start by discussing

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when and why this question might come up during

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evangelism before jumping into that evidence.

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Now, I'm not just doing this to give you more

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tools in your apologetics toolbox. I've selected

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arguments from a variety of disciplines because,

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if we're honest, all of us have had doubts about

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God in at least one area. This is as much about

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strengthening our faith as it is sharing it.

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Tonight's resource is a book called Darwin's

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Black Box by Michael J. Behe. I used about a

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dozen books to collect all of tonight's information,

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but Darwin's Black Box is the biggest departure

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from any of the books I've recommended previously.

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We're going to look at it in more detail later,

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but the general idea is that as we learn more

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about what happens inside cells, we find mechanisms

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and processes that are called irreducibly complex,

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meaning they could not have evolved naturally

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because they needed all the component parts or

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steps to function. It put the nail in the coffin

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for evolution for me, and I think you'll all

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find it just as interesting. The argument presented

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in Darwin's black box is one of many I'll be

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presenting tonight as evidence that God exists.

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But before we get into those arguments, it's

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time for a brief history lesson. In Acts 17,

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16 -33, Paul is telling people in Athens about

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Jesus, and it's causing quite a ruckus. First,

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he gets taken to the city council, then he gets

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taken to the Oropagus or Mars Hill, depending

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on your translation. He's face -to -face with

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civic leaders and the greatest philosophers in

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the nation. He begins his speech by mentioning

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an altar to the unknown God, a God that the Athenians

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thought existed but were otherwise ignorant to

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its identity. Paul tells them that this unknown

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God is actually the God, the Father, and proceeds

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to deliver an evangelistic and apologetic message

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on Jesus. Paul structures his presentation as

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such because 99 .999999999 % of people in the

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history of humanity up to the 1800s share a worldview

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with two essential aspects. First, it's ridiculous

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I even have to mention this. People believed

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in objective reality and truth. The world is

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real. We are real. And there are true facts about

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the world that we can ascertain. Second, it was

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obvious to everyone from observing the world

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around them that there was just some sort of

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god or gods. The supernatural was a fact of life.

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There were just disagreements over the details.

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Paul didn't need to argue for these two aspects

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because everybody already accepted them. Well,

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I mentioned the 1800s. And that's when the trouble

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started. humanity started making rapid scientific

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and philosophical progress in what we now call

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the Enlightenment. Now, that part isn't necessarily

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bad by itself. We discovered answers to many

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of the greatest mysteries from the past. But

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the problem happened when we decided that if

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we could demystify those aspects of our existence,

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we could do it for all of them. Belief in God

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became an intellectual liability, a sign of low

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intelligence and lack of trust in science and

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human reason. We still see this attitude in universities,

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media, and popular culture, with religious people

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often characterized as unintelligent, ill -informed,

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and gullible. Then the second blow came in the

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1960s. One strength of the Enlightenment mindset

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was that people believed in an objective reality,

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the one that humanity was studying and mastering.

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In what some people believed to be a movement

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to deliberately sabotage Western civilization,

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a new philosophy called postmodernism erupted

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from the universities. There is a spectrum of

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postmodern views, but it would be summed up as

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a rejection of objective truth and reality. To

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them, everything is subjective and nothing can

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be said to be objectively true. And so the modern

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Christian evangelist or apologist can't jump

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right in like Paul did, because many people he

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encounters will reject objective truth or the

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supernatural or both. I need to spend a lot more

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time studying postmodernism before I feel qualified

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to talk about it, so tonight we're making the

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case for the supernatural, in particular, that

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God exists. Now, there are a ton of arguments

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for God's existence, and apologists have come

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up with just as many different ways to categorize

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them. For the purposes of this presentation,

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I'm using three categories. We'll call them philosophical,

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scientific, and Christian -specific, and we'll

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look at each one and why I've chosen to divide

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them that way, as we go through the arguments.

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We'll start with the philosophical category,

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and these arguments are those that are made through

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internal observation, things like logic, reason,

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and contemplation. Because they can't be tested

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scientifically, they are often very polarizing,

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with some people finding them the most convincing

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and others rejecting them totally. We'll start

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with the moral argument, which follows a pattern

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we'll see a few more times tonight. It starts

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with an assertion or condition about reality,

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makes an observation about reality, then uses

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that observation to support the assertion. For

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the moral argument, the assertion is that if

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objective morality exists, then a source of that

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objective morality must exist, something you

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could call an objective moral lawgiver. Now,

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the observation made is that objective morality

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does exist. This may seem obvious to the Christian,

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but atheists often push back against this claim.

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So you can present them with some questions like,

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Is it ever okay to kill an innocent person for

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fun? Or is it ever okay to beat up babies for

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fun? Obviously not. Opponents of objective morality

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often argue that all morality is subjective.

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So you could also look at an example from World

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War II. When the Nazis were put on trial at the

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Nuremberg trials, they acknowledged that their

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actions were wrong, but claimed that they were

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done to defeat a greater evil. Many defended

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their actions by saying they were just following

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orders. The tribunal did not agree. They argue

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that individuals were obligated to disobey evil

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orders because of their responsibility to a higher

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authority. There is an inherent value to human

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life that all humans seem to understand, even

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if they choose to commit evil acts. And so, if

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this objective morality exists, then an objective

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moral lawgiver, the one we would call God, exists.

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The next philosophical argument is called the

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argument from reason. It says that if our sense

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of consciousness and ability to think were products

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of evolution, and operated solely on laws of

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physics, that makes us just organic machines,

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and our thoughts are nothing more than illusions.

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But all humans have a shared experience of thinking

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and inferring information, and although we're

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not perfectly rational beings, our brains are

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capable of drawing accurate inferences and displaying

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creativity. We have idle thoughts and emotions

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that are unnecessary for survival and reproduction,

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so why would we have evolved this way? That seems

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like a waste of resources. This collection of

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attributes and our personal experiences of consciousness

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that we assume everyone else has, they point

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to our minds as something beyond the physical,

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something supernatural in nature and origin.

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To the Christian, our minds are exactly what

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one would expect if people were created in the

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image of a rational creator. Next up is the ontological

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argument. This is easily the most polarizing

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philosophical argument for God's existence. Personally,

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I don't think it's a good argument. And I can't

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imagine it convincing anyone, let alone an atheist.

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On the other hand, several of the most skilled

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contemporary apologists think that it's one of

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the most convincing. God gave us all different

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talents, passions, and styles of learning, so

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if I can help someone somewhere, then I'm happy

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to present it regardless of my personal opinion.

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Either way, it goes like this. Think of God as

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a maximally great being, something that is the

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best in every possible aspect. That lines up

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with the Christian conception of God. Now, if

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you had one version of God that did not exist

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and one version that did, the version that did

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exist would be better than the one that did not.

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Therefore, since it is possible that God exists,

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it is necessary that God exists in order to be

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maximally great. This next argument blew my mind

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the first time I heard it. In the argument against

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infinite regression, we both argue against an

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infinitely old universe or an infinite series

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of causes, and we set the stage for some of the

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science -based arguments. Let's look at time

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first. If, as many atheists claim, the universe

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is infinitely old and our current version of

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the universe is just one of an infinitely old

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series of universes, that puts us on that circle

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in the middle of the timeline. However, that

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presents a logical problem. Many atheists will

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call the present moment zero and then start counting

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to infinity in either direction, arguing that

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that's logically valid. But that's not an accurate

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representation. If there were actually an infinite

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amount of time before the present, we could never

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have gotten to the present day. Similarly, consider

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the series of events leading up to this moment.

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I am teaching this class because 40 years ago

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my parents watched a romantic movie. My parents

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exist because 30 years before that their parents,

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I guess, read a romantic telegraph? I don't know,

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but the point is we can trace back to Adam and

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Eve, the creation of the universe, and so on.

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But at some point we run into a problem. If we

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don't have a first cause, it's the same argument

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we used against infinite time. We never would

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have gotten to the present. So to summarize all

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of this, we can say that logically, there must

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be an uncaused first cause. And that cause is

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what we would call God. But we can also go further

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by building on that foundation. The Kalam Cosmological

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Argument straddles the border of philosophy and

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science, so it's a good transition between the

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two. It's made up of three statements just like

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some of the other arguments. First is the assertion

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that whatever begins to exist has a cause of

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its existence. Second is the assertion that the

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universe began to exist. Therefore, we conclude

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that the universe has a cause of existence. The

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whole argument hinges on the assertion that the

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universe began to exist. So can we justify that?

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Yes, both scientifically and philosophically.

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Our previous argument was that we can't have

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an infinitely old universe or an infinite chain

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of causes. That's the philosophical answer. The

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scientific answer comes in the form of the Big

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Bang, a theory that was developed by a Christian

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astronomer who was mocked by academics for suggesting

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that the universe wasn't eternal. But it's now

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the leading theory for the origin of the universe,

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and it's fully compatible with Christian theology.

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We observe that the universe is running out of

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energy and expanding. Our telescopes show leftover

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radiation from the Big Bang which could only

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have come from a hot, dense origin. Einstein's

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theory of general relativity shows that matter,

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space, and time are interdependent and all had

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a simultaneous beginning. And what's truly fascinating

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about the Kalam cosmological argument is that

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it doesn't just stop by saying that there is

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a cause of existence. As I just mentioned, when

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we say universe, we're talking about matter,

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space, and time, all coming into existence at

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once. So, whatever made the universe is spaceless,

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timeless, and immaterial. Because the universe

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was created from nothing, we can conclude that

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whatever this cause is must have chosen to create,

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meaning it is personal. And finally, given the

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complexity and scale of the universe, this cause

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must also be intelligent and powerful. The Kalam

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Cosmological Argument is considered the gold

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standard of Christian apologetic arguments, because

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it gives us a picture of a universal creator

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that sounds just like the Christian God. As I

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mentioned, the Kalam Cosmological Argument is

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our bridge between philosophical and scientific

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arguments for God's existence. And now we're

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going to focus on the purely scientific arguments.

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These use observations and experiments to demonstrate

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that God is the best. and the only explanation

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for many aspects of our existence and the universe

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in which we exist. Now this slide should look

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pretty familiar. It's called the teleological

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or fine -tuning argument, and this is one we

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looked at when we did our introduction to apologetics.

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This argument says that the universe appears

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precisely designed for life, and the examples

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that we looked at previously were the strength

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of gravity, the expansion of space, and some

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of the conditions specific to Earth. Now, these

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are just three examples, but we find more and

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more of these factors every year. And we find

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that, for instance, if gravity was a minute percent

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different in either direction, it would make

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stars, planets, and life impossible. If the expansion

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of space was minutely faster, it would prevent

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galaxies from forming. If it was minutely slower,

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space would have collapsed in on itself. On Earth,

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for example, if the chemical composition of the

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atmosphere, the amount of water, the rotational

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period, Jupiter's exact size and orbit were different

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by minuscule amounts, life would be impossible

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on Earth. And like I said, we keep finding more

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and more of these factors. And so scientists

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currently estimate that the chance of life naturally

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occurring on one planet in the entire universe

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is 1 in 10 to the 138th. Now that is a massive

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number. It's far too big for us to be able to

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conceptualize. It means nothing to us because

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it's such a big number. Now we can sort of put

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it in context by saying that there are 10 to

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the 70th atoms in the universe. And so you can

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imagine that you set out and you had to search

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for one specific atom in the entire universe.

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And your chance of finding that one specific

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atom by checking a random atom is 1 in 10 to

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the 70th. But because it is 1 in 10 to the 138th,

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If you imagine that there's an entire universe,

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the size of our universe, inside that one particular

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atom you were looking for and then you were looking

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for a specific atom inside that universe that

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was already contained in a specific atom, then

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the chance of finding that specific universe

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would be picking the one atom and then picking

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another atom in that other universe. It is such

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an incomprehensibly big number that keeps getting

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bigger every year. it is just logically nearly

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impossible that this happened by chance and that

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it wasn't designed by a creator. So as we move

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into the next argument, I'm not going to pretend

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that I understand everything happening in this

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diagram. There's a reason that I studied computer

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science and not biology or chemistry. This stuff

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just blows my mind. It's tough for me to understand.

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But what it demonstrates is the central point

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of the book I recommended earlier called Darwin's

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Black Box. And that point is a concept called

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irreducible complexity. Essentially, there are

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a massive number of structures and processes

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happening in our bodies which are made up of

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pieces or steps that all had to be in place for

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that structure or process to function. Additionally,

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many, if not most of these pieces and steps have

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no purpose other than being a part of the final

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structure or process. Supporters of evolution

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argue that everything in our bodies evolved naturally

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over many small steps, but the discovery of these

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irreducibly complex structures and processes

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makes that logically improbable, if not impossible.

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Looking at the example on the screen, which again

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I will not pretend I fully understand, we can

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see this concept illustrated in the blood clotting

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cascade, which is how your body reacts when you

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get cut to stop the bleeding. This process has

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to be very precise. If clotting happened too

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easily, your blood would clot when it shouldn't

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and you would die. If clotting didn't trigger

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properly, you'd bleed out and die. The series

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of steps you see on the screen make sure that

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clotting happens at exactly the right time and

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under the proper conditions and only to the right

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extent. However, all of those steps need to happen

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in that exact order for the process to work.

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It couldn't have evolved over time unless there

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was intelligence guiding that evolution. And

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we see a similar or greater levels of irreducible

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complexity in a multitude of other places in

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our bodies. It's as if God's signature is all

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over the tiny machines that make our bodies run.

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So go read Darwin's black box and hear it explained

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by an expert. It's about a hundred times more

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convincing. And speaking of experts, you should

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also take a look at the book called Signature

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in the Cell by Stephen Meyer, but I'll do my

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best to explain why DNA and biological information

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storage also point to God's existence. Most people

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listening to this have heard of DNA and understand

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the basic concept that DNA stores the genetic

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information that determines the properties of

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our bodies, such as height, hair color, eye color,

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and even immunity or susceptibility to certain

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diseases. This information is stored in sequences

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of four different nucleotides, which we represent

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as four letters. DNA gets unzipped, specific

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sequences are read by something called RNA, then

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it gets zipped back up, and the copied information

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is used to create proteins, which are the building

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blocks of various things in our bodies. So what

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does this have to do with God? Well, first, the

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entire thing is a shining example of irreducible

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complexity. None of those parts, the DNA, the

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RNA, The unzipper, the zipper, the protein factories

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have an independent function. They all need each

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other to function. So thinking that they could

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have evolved independently makes no sense. Second,

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let's grant that they evolved independently just

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for the sake of argument. If so, where did the

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DNA for the first organism come from? And that

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points to the biggest problem of all. The closest

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analogy we have to DNA is computer code. Who

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designed the code and determined what the individual

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nucleotides and sequences of nucleotides would

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mean? The entire system and all the rules needed

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to be implemented all at once. If we saw this

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system anywhere besides the human body, we'd

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insist that a computer programmer had created

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it. So why do we make an exception for the DNA

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system in our bodies when it's clear that it

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also had a programmer? God. And then we'll wrap

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up our scientific arguments with another bridge

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argument, this time between the scientific arguments

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and the Christian -specific arguments. In particular,

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we see the confirmation of ancient scientific

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assertions made in the Bible, which have only

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recently been confirmed by modern science. One

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of these examples comes from the book of Job.

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And basically, near the end of the book, Job

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questions God. And as part of God's response

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to Job, he says, This happens in Job 38, 31 to

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32. Now, This just sounded like, you know, big,

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grand, cosmological language that didn't really

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mean anything until modern science started looking

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at these star clusters and constellations with

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modern telescopes. Some of these things we've

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only been able to confirm within the last couple

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decades. And these are amazing. These blew my

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mind the first time I heard them. For instance,

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when God says, bind the cluster of the Pleiades.

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Ancient people couldn't have known that the Pleiades

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is a star cluster. They are bound gravitationally

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to each other. They also couldn't have known

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that Orion was not a cluster. So when God says

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loosing the cords of Orion, the ancient people

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couldn't have known that Orion isn't a star cluster

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or isn't linked together and they're actually

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starting to move apart. And finally, when God

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says directing the constellations through the

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seasons or guiding the bear with her cubs across

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the heavens, Well, we didn't know until incredibly

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recently that the bear or Arcturus wasn't a single

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star, but it's actually 53. Well, that's the

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bear and her cubs. Scholars believe that Job

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is the oldest book in the Bible. It was passed

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down by oral tradition before it was recorded.

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This information would have been impossible for

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these people to know unless it was given to them

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by the very creator of the universe. So other

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than that final bridge argument we looked at

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with the confirmation of ancient scientific assertions,

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the arguments for God's existence to this point

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have been fairly general. They could apply to

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any single creator God, not necessarily the God

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of the Bible. Now, however, we're going to look

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at arguments for God's existence that are specific

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to the God of the Bible and allow us to make

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the case that he exists as the one true God.

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But it's also fair to say that these arguments

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might be a little bit tricky. They may not necessarily

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be convincing to non -Christians, but they can

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act as a confirmation of faith to Christians.

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A good example of this is the first one, which

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is the personal witness of the Holy Spirit. Many

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apologists will say that it is the best evidence

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to an individual that God exists. Every single

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Christian has had the experience of an interaction

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with the Holy Spirit. It might be something small

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like... a feeling or an emotion, or it could

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be something dramatic, like God pointing you

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or pushing you in a certain direction for your

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life that was totally unexpected. It is impossible

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to explain to people who haven't experienced

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it, but every Christian has had this experience.

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They have had a personal encounter and interaction

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with God, and it is something that is unmistakable.

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It is something totally distinct from any other

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encounter that you've ever had in your life.

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And this goes hand in hand with the second argument,

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which is the radical transformation by the Holy

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Spirit. These are extreme life and personality

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changes that are unlikely or impossible to be

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made by a person on their own, like breaking

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an addiction or with no withdrawal. Now, skeptics

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will often dismiss this as coincidence or a person

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exercising their will, but the sheer volume and

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the extent that we see these, even here in our

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own church, is overwhelming. Let me share a personal

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story for this one, because this is what convinced

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me that God was real. You see, way back before

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I was a Christian, back when I was a teenager,

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I started having some very serious health problems.

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It involved muscle pain, joint pain, muscle spasms.

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Basically, over time, over the period of a couple

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of years, my entire body was in extreme pain.

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My parents got very concerned about this early

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on when it started, and as it got more and more

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serious, they went through a lot of trouble and

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a lot of time to take me to a ton of different

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doctors. I went to doctors at different hospitals

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in different cities, and nobody could understand

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what was going on with me. They did all sorts

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of tests. They did blood work. They took samples

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of everything you can imagine, and some of it

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was pretty painful, and I probably went to 40

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or 50 different doctors over the course of a

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couple years. Nobody had any idea what was going

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on with me. And finally, when I was about 18

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or 19, my primary care doctor, he felt bad for

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me. I was in constant pain all the time. And

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he said, listen, they don't know what's going

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on with you. I'm just going to give you something

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to help you with the pain and to help you manage

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the symptoms. Now, I hold no ill will against

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him for this. He was simply trying to treat me

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to the best of his ability. As many of us know,

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painkillers and muscle relaxers tend to not work

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as well over time. And so you have to keep bumping

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up the dose. And so that's what got me hooked

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on painkillers and muscle relaxers. And over

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the course of many years, it went from one small

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pill to a handful of pills every day. And I think

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it's fair to say that I was pretty irresponsible

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in it. I was using higher doses than I should

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have just because I felt so bad all the time.

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I started getting queasy to my stomach. I started

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feeling depressed. It really changes your personality

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a lot. I would wash these things down with alcohol.

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And then I even tried other drugs, much more

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severe drugs, to give me the energy back that

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I was losing from these. And this went on for

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a very long time. And so the day that I got saved,

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I remember laying in bed that night and saying

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to myself, God, there's obviously a lot of things

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in my life that need changed. Please help me

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make that change. When I woke up the next day,

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it was almost like I was watching myself work

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on autopilot. I remember waking up and getting

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a trash bag and walking around my apartment and

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throwing out all of those pills and all the alcohol

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and all the other stuff. And I chucked it in

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the trash. And what's remarkable and impossible,

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unless it was God working, is that after almost

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two decades of taking all these various substances,

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I didn't have a single moment of withdrawal.

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God saved me from that. And that is the type

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of radical transformation that we see all the

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time here in HCV and millions and millions of

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Christians see around the world. In 1 Corinthians

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15, 14 -15 in the NIV translation, Paul says,

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And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching

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is useless, and so is your faith. More than that,

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we are then found to be false witnesses about

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God. We have testified about God that he raised

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Christ from the dead. According to Paul, Jesus'

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death and resurrection are the critical element

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of Christianity. They prove all of Jesus' claims

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correct. If the resurrection happened, Christianity

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is true. If the resurrection didn't happen, Christianity

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is false. Because of Christ's claims, if Christianity

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is true, then God exists and everything that's

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written in the Bible about God is true. Consider

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this a preview of an upcoming session, because

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this topic deserves its own session, and there's

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so much material here that we could spend a couple

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hours on it. But let me give you two important

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pieces of evidence. The first is this. When we

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look in the Bible, the Jewish authorities accuse

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the apostles of stealing Jesus' body. They don't

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deny that the tomb is empty. They don't deny

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that the body is missing. Had the Romans or the

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Jews taken Jesus' body, they could have produced

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it and debunked the entire argument. but they

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knew that the body was missing. Church tradition

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holds that all of the apostles except for John

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were martyred for maintaining the truth of Jesus'

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resurrection. History puts us fairly certain

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that four or five of them were, and we don't

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know about the rest, but the point is that the

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one group of people who would know for sure whether

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Jesus had died and come back to life were all

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willing to die for their belief that Jesus did

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come back to life. If they had stolen the body

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or were in any way involved in some sort of conspiracy,

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they wouldn't have allowed themselves to be tortured

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and killed to maintain that story. And that's

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just barely scratching the surface of the evidence

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we have for Jesus' resurrection. And like I said,

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we'll tackle this in a future section. And then

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we come to the argument from fulfilled prophecy.

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You probably heard Chris talk about this several

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times at Easter. I know this is a big focal point

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of when I tell the Easter story to the kids.

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Now we have to acknowledge that almost every

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religion offers prophecies, and occasionally

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they get one correct. But on the low end, the

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God of the Bible has fulfilled at least 300 prophecies,

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with many scholars putting the number significantly

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higher. Even more importantly, he has never been

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wrong. It would be one thing if the Bible made

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millions of predictions and got 300 correct,

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but got thousands of them wrong. But that's not

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the case. No prophecy or information contained

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in the Bible has ever been found to be incorrect.

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And so who else will be able to tell the future

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accurately? other than the God who is outside

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of time and is able to see that future exactly.

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And our final Christian -specific argument is

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the unique and exceptional history of Christianity.

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This is another topic that deserves its entire

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discussion, so let me just give you the 30 -second

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version. The basic premise is that what started

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as a small, heavily persecuted sect of Judaism

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not only survived, but became the official religion

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of the Roman Empire and the dominant religion

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of the world. But this wasn't done through military

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conquest like Islam, but through peace and charity.

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People converted to Christianity because they

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saw that radical personal transformation of the

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Holy Spirit. The people in Rome were blown away

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by the charity shown by Christians. You see,

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there was a common practice in Rome called exposure,

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where when people had a baby and they didn't

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want it or they thought something was wrong with

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it, they would just leave it outside at night

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and the wild dogs would, you know, get the baby.

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Now, Christians were vehemently opposed to this

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process. So they would go around at night and

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pick up these exposure babies. Christians started

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the first orphanages to care for these babies.

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They started free hospitals. They did free meals

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for people. They took care of orphans and widows.

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They showed people that life didn't have to be

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the way it was. And then they told people that

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the motivation for that change was Jesus. It's

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one thing for Islamic soldiers to ride into a

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village, force people to convert at the point

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of a sword, and kill anybody who doesn't, versus

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people willingly converting when they see God

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transforming lives. The timing of Jesus' life

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and death and the way that Christianity spread

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and the speed that it spread and the method that

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it spread are nothing short of miraculous. And

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like I said, we'll examine this in a lot more

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detail in a future session. I became a Christian

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when I was 34. I spent between 20 and 25 years

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as an atheist. I knew for a fact that we either

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could or would explain every aspect of our existence

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scientifically, and that God was an unnecessary

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human invention meant to fill gaps in our knowledge.

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I've come to realize that the opposite is true.

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It's not just irrational, but an act of great

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self -deception to look at the world and conclude

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that God does not exist. He has made his presence

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known in many ways. And I pray that you'll use

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these arguments to break down barriers and open

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doors for evangelism and apologetics, but also

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to eliminate doubts within yourself and to draw

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people to God through Jesus. Thank you for listening.

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Here's the resource again, my contact information,

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and a link to the slideshows and videos. God

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bless, and look forward to next month's session.

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We start part one of a two -part session on salvation.
