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Hey there folks, I'm Daniel.

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Welcome to the Pebble in a Pond podcast.

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This is not only going to be our first episode, but the first time that I've ever recorded

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anything like this.

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So I hope that everyone is a little forgiving and understanding as I try to figure this

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all out and work out the kinks as I work my way through this.

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Hopefully the message will be more important than the technical buffoonery that I am about

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to try to work my way through.

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So I think we'll start with a simple introduction of what exactly this podcast is going to be

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about and what the point of it all is.

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To do that, I'm going to start with a story.

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A story that I heard when I was very young.

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One that it really did have an impact on me.

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I remember it sparingly, the details, so I'm going to try to fill in as much as I can.

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I don't know where the story was originally told.

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I don't know how old the story is.

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It is literally just a childhood memory that really stuck with me a lot as I got older.

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The story starts with a little boy in a village or somewhere.

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And he's a little farm boy in a village and he starts to wonder as he goes through every

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day, get up, go to do his chores, do all the stuff that he does.

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He just works all day and then he goes to bed and he starts to wonder about his place

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in the universe.

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He starts to feel very insignificant.

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And at some point he gets to where he's really questioning his own existence.

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And so he goes to the village elder who is renowned for being this wise man who really

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understands where people's place is and really has a way of explaining things in a clear

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and concise way.

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And the village elder sits and listens and the little boy just says, how does somebody

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like me, like why do I matter?

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What can I do to make the world a better place?

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How can I be important?

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And the elder just looks at him and smiles and he takes him by the hand and he leads

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him down the hill to a small pond that's at the bottom of the hill.

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And when they reach the edge of the pond, the elder picks up a small pebble and he hands

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it to the boy and he says, throw the pebble into the pond.

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So the boy does.

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And when the pebble hits the pond, it creates a, you know, it's a little tiny pebble.

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So it just creates a splash and then some ripples.

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And the boy just sits there and watches the ripples for a second.

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And the elder says, just like that pebble, our actions can create ripples in the world

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around us.

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Every time you're kind, every time you're gentle, every time you act with compassion

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and courtesy, you're creating a ripple that reaches far beyond anything that you can ever

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really understand.

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The same thing goes for when you inflict harm or pain or negativity.

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Those ripples are also felt and they have far reaching consequences that you'll never

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understand.

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So as the boy sits there and thinks about this, he begins to understand, you know, just

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how simple it really is.

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And he turns and he looks at the pond and he realizes that those little ripples that

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he had made by throwing the pebble have now turned into a little bit larger waves and

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they're hitting the shore and they're moving the dirt and the pieces of stuff on the edge

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of the pond.

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And he, you know, has a look on his face like he's starting to understand and the village

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elder reaches his hand down and puts his hand on the shoulder of this boy and says, you

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must understand that you don't get to choose what happens when you throw the pebble.

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It just hits the pond and the ripples go where they will.

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So if you act with love and kindness, you don't need to worry about it because you know

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that the positive energy and the love that you're spreading will be the effect that you're

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bringing into the world.

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Whereas if you are spreading hate or anger or any other negative emotion, that's what

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you're going to spread into the world.

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As the boy stood there, he began to understand and he made a promise to himself and to the

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elder that he was going to live his life with purpose and intention.

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He was going to try everything he could to be as kind and loving and compassionate as

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possible so that the energy that he put into the world and the ripples that he created

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would be ones that were positive.

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He understood that the smallest boy, the smallest pebble can create far, far reaching effects

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just with a simple act of kindness.

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Now obviously I was kind of trying to remember a lot of that off the cuff so I apologize

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for kind of stammering and working my way through it.

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It really, when you're a little kid and you hear a story like that, it kind of cements

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your place to a certain degree.

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It makes you realize just how important you can be while also kind of being crappy because

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this old guy is like, hey you're insignificant.

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But completely forgetting that part, it's an important lesson.

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When I decided to start, for lack of a better word, changing my life, I decided that that

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was the basis on which I was going to make the changes.

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I'm not somebody who has ever really embraced a lot of major changes in my life so all I

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could really think to do was small things.

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And one of those small things is starting this podcast.

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And if you've come here from the TikTok videos and you know that I've started doing that

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as well, it's really just to get the idea of this message out.

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And that idea is as simple as that story.

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If each one of us takes just a little bit of extra time, just a little bit of understanding

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and carries that with us and says, you know what, I'm not going to be a jerk.

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I'm not going to be mean to people.

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I'm not going to treat people horribly.

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I'm just going to be kind and loving.

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And I'm going to put that energy out.

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If we could get 50 people to do that, it would be a massive change in the world.

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If we can get 100 people to do that, it would be a massive change.

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Any number of people that can latch onto this idea and start to understand it, the changes

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that you'll start to see in the people around you and the world around you will be jaw dropping.

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And I'm not just saying that for hyperbole.

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I really do believe that.

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I believe that if all of us just took a little bit of extra time and effort to be better

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people that the world would genuinely be a better place.

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Now, obviously it's not that simple, right?

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Like I can't just come on here and say it and it makes it happen.

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And that's kind of what the whole point of this podcast is, is to try to illustrate ideas

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and concepts and ways of thinking that will help further this idea and will make it easier

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for people that maybe haven't thought about some of these things.

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I'm just going to be giving suggestions and telling stories that I feel are positive and

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bring some good energy into this world because at the end of the day, all we can do is try

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to change things.

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And if we do nothing, then things are going to stay exactly how they are.

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And I don't really feel like doing nothing anymore.

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And on that note, I think it's probably important to make sure that everybody understands a

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little bit about me.

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I have been clinically depressed for probably 20 years.

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I don't really remember when it started.

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I don't really remember how it started.

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It just kind of creeped in and took hold of me.

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And for those of you that don't really understand depression, it can, it creates a version of

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you that is, I don't really know how to say this, it is your front-facing face.

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The way that you interact with people, the way that you, the way that people view you,

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they see this mask of depression most of the time.

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And what I mean by that is there will be times when you'll be interacting with someone and

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you'll be trapped in your own body.

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You won't be able to speak out and say the things you want to say because your depression

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is just so stifling and so overwhelming that it's doing all the talking for you.

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You don't really get to make the choice of how you interact with people a lot of times.

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So for me, having lived with it for as long as I did, or still am really, it was very

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life-altering.

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It became my way of life and it really did affect everyone and everything in my life.

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And obviously for a period of time like that, I can't really get into all the details of

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it.

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Maybe if I do this podcast for another 40 years, I can get into it.

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But it's pretty depressing since we're talking about depression.

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And so there's, I don't really see much point in all the details.

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The reason I bring that up is because this podcast and the ideas that come out of it

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were spawned at the very, very bottom of that depression where it basically became a situation

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where it was sink or swim.

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I either had to find a way to claw myself out of it or I was it.

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I was done.

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And I mean that in just the way you think I mean it.

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It was really, really that bad.

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And it was really over the course of one night I just hit rock bottom emotionally.

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I couldn't see a way out.

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And then I'm not really sure what happened, but I mean I've been calling it an inspiration

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or an epiphany.

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But at some point it just clicked.

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You know, I can't keep doing this.

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I can't let this depression kill me.

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I can't let it take over my life anymore.

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And I mean once again the backstory is a little bit more in depth and the reasoning for the

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depression getting that bad is a longer story that I'm not going to get into at this point

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at least.

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But suffice it to say I was moved.

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I was changed.

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I felt almost immediately better about my life.

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For those of you that have dealt with depression you'll know that there's periods of time where

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it fades away and you start to feel yourself again.

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You start to feel good.

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And the problem with depression is that it always comes back.

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It always rears its ugly head.

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And you know, who knows?

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It may, I may have to deal with it, fight the hydra again if you will.

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But right now as I'm recording this I feel better than I have in a long, long time.

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And I feel like I have a purpose.

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And that purpose is to try to get this message out and make people feel better about their

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lives and try to affect the lives of those closest to them so that they may also be pebbles

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in the pond if you will.

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Now the general idea of this spawned, like I said, in a period of extreme depression.

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And the original idea was going to be me as somebody who is a, I guess you could say a

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student of humanity and history and just general, I guess you could say I'm a student of people.

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My favorite pastime when I was in high school and those formative years was not going out

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and partying and drinking and all of those things.

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I would just go places and sit and people watch.

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That was my favorite thing to do.

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I loved watching people.

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I loved learning people.

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I would sit in the middle of a mall or I would sit in a, at the time there was a virgin megastore.

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I would sit and I would go up into the top level of the virgin megastore and I would

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just sit and watch people.

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And no doubt it was probably boring for most of my friends.

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But for me it was enthralling.

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I loved it.

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I loved watching the way people walked.

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I loved watching the way that some people held hands and some people, you know, the

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looks that they would give each other, the ways that people communicated without ever

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really saying a word.

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I really spend most of my time when I'm in public studying people and trying to understand

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them on a verbal and nonverbal level.

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So I know that sometimes when you get into these podcasts and you start to listen to

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them, people throw around terms that I guess are hot button terms and this is one of those

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for some people.

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And so just bear with me on this.

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Some people would say that I'm an empath.

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I know that there are people out there that for some reason don't believe that empathy

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is a real thing.

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I don't really understand that, but you know, welcome anyway.

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I am an extremely sensitive empath and I really do connect very well with people in a way

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that is oftentimes painful, but is always something I can learn from and I grow from.

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I don't have to do a lot of things myself.

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I can learn from the pain or the happiness of other people.

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I can really pull from that and experience it through them a lot of times.

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No, I mean obviously like skydiving is something you just have to do on your own.

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You're never really going to be able to emulate that with just empathy, but it is, you know,

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I can certainly understand the happiness and the high related with it.

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So the original idea was going to be me having the skill set that I have and a very close

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friend of mine who is a trained life coach and she was going to be bringing her expertise

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and her training into the fold and we were basically just going to have a back and forth

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about how certain ways of seeing certain problems and dealing with certain people and you know,

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things that you go through in your life.

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There's just different tactics that you can take and different ways that you can move

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through those scenarios and those situations.

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Sometimes the better thing to do is you know, you take the life coaching and the therapy

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and the psychiatry way of doing things, the kind of professional way of doing things and

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that's obviously going to be better for some people.

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But for a lot of people, it's just really something you can just boil down to simplicity

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and kindness and I think that that's lost on a lot of people is that sometimes the best

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way through a scenario or a situation that involves other people is really honestly the

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simplest and easiest way of doing it.

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But I feel like it's important to let everybody know that the life coach friend that I had

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is probably not going to be taking part, at least not for a long time if she does.

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It wasn't something that necessarily moved her as much as it moved me, but I felt that

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the message that I was trying to get out and the importance of the change that can come

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about from it were just too important.

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I couldn't let that sidetrack me and I couldn't let it stop me from making this podcast.

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I may end up spending hours making these podcasts and making these episodes and just end up

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talking to myself through most of them, but if that's the case, then at least I'm getting

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it out.

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I work on these with two of my children and they're actually going to be my engineer and

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my social media manager.

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So very soon after you hear this, there will be a social media presence on almost every

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social media site for this podcast.

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We're really going to try as hard as we can to get the basic ideas of this message out

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to as many people as we possibly can.

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I don't just want to do a podcast.

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I really do genuinely from the bottom of my heart want to start a community.

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I want to build something out of nothing.

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I want to create a movement if I can.

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And obviously I can't do it alone.

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So if you're hearing this and it's something that you're interested in, please, please

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engage, please stick around because as I get better at this and we start to really be able

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to touch some people and change some mindsets and ways of looking at the world, I think

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that you're going to want to be here to see it.

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You're going to want to see it from the beginning.

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You're going to want to understand how this change came about because if I can accomplish

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what I'm out to accomplish, it's a really simple goal.

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I just want to change the world.

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And that may sound a little arrogant, but we got to dream big, baby.

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Dream big.

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That's where I got to be.

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This inspiration came to me at a point where I was at my lowest and I'm not going to let

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it come back.

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I'm not going to let that low point come back.

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I'm going to follow this lead to the very end if I can and try to make not just my world,

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but the people in this world better.

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I just have to.

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I don't know why.

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I don't know what's driving me.

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I'm not a religious man.

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I'm not someone that has a lot of faith in a lot of things.

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I'm actually pretty well known for being a cynic and a skeptic.

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So these things that I say and this leap of faith, if you will, that I'm taking is extremely

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uncomfortable and odd.

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And I don't quite understand it, but sometimes we just got to roll with it.

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Sometimes we don't have much choice in that.

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My goal with these episodes will be to try to keep them between 30 and 45 minutes.

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As we move forward, I would like to start to bring some people in, whether it be actually

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in person or through whatever media I need to, to bring people in and do some interviews

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and really get some professional outlooks on certain things.

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I have a few avenues to pursue some historical, I guess, historians that might be willing

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to come on and talk about the history of certain concepts and ideas that I'm going to be talking

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about.

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But those are a little ways out and obviously something I'm still working on.

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So as of right now, every episode is going to have a theme, an idea that I'm going to

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be discussing and trying to create understanding and avenues of change for people so that they

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can start to employ some of these concepts in their everyday life and make these little

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changes.

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Now, I'm not, as I've already stated, I'm not a doctor.

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I mean, maybe I didn't already state that, but I'm not a doctor.

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I'm not a psychiatrist.

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I'm not a therapist.

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I'm not really somebody who, you know, any more than you would listen to your best friend

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and their advice.

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I'm not anything more than that.

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But I can offer this if it makes any of this easier.

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I genuinely care about what's happening to people and I can't tell you how important

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it is to me that each person that hears this gets something out of it.

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I don't want to sit here and talk into the void, but I certainly will if at some point,

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whether it be tomorrow or a year from now, somebody might hear it and it might help them.

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So I'm going to just keep doing it until it changes somebody's life because that's what

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it's all about.

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So I guess what I'd like to do next, and this will probably wrap up this episode, is I want

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to tell a story.

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And this isn't going to be a story like the other one where I'm trying to remember it

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and stammering through it while I am trying to remember something.

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Well, I mean, I guess kind of it is.

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I mean, this was a long time ago, but I remember it much more clearly than I do that story

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that is a childhood memory.

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This story actually takes place when I was, I'd say around 16 or 17, and a group of friends

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of mine, like three or four of us, we used to go hang out at the McDonald's, which is

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just as exciting as it sounds.

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There was a McDonald's that was, a big McDonald's that was open 24 hours.

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And instead of going out to clubs and things like that, since we were still only 16 years

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old, 17, we would go hang out at the McDonald's.

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And we would hang out until like four or five in the morning.

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This was like a serious hangout.

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This wasn't, we weren't playing around.

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We were hanging out.

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And I remember very clearly going in there, you know, we'd been going in there a lot,

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but I was, we went in there and a young lady at the time was at the register.

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I'd never seen her before.

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And she was sad, I guess you could say.

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She looked like she had not necessarily been crying, but had obviously been upset about

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something.

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And keep in mind, I had been there a lot and I'd never seen this girl before.

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And everybody, you know, everybody ordered their thing.

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And I just, I don't know why.

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I don't know.

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I can't really explain it to you or anybody why I felt this need to talk to this girl.

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But this would become something from, I mean, even back then, this would be something that

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would actually be a driving force for me and a lot of interactions I would have is just,

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I just feel these like overwhelming, like I have to do this.

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I have to do that.

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I don't know why, but I have to.

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And this was one of those times I was overwhelmed by this need to talk to this girl.

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And there was no attraction.

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I mean, we were, you know, she was probably a little older than me, but there was no like

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physical attraction or anything.

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It was just, I just felt like I had to talk to her.

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And I just asked her, I was like, are you okay?

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And she said, yeah, yeah.

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You know, she has, she put on the face that a lot of people put on where they, oh yeah,

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of course.

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Yeah, no problem.

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I was like, are you sure?

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Cause you seem like you're a little upset.

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You know, I'm not, I'm not trying to pry.

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I just, you know, you see, you do seem upset.

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Is there anything I can do to help you?

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And to say that those words changed lives would be doing a disservice to those words

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because at that point in time, she, she damn near broke down.

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Honestly, she, she just, tears came to her eyes and she said, no, I, you know, I've got,

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I've got some problems and I'm dealing with them.

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You know, you don't worry about it.

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And you know, she, she did what most people do in society and she tried to deflect and

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she tried to not get into it.

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And I wasn't, I wasn't trying to pry.

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I wasn't trying to like force anything out of her.

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So I just, you know, I told her, you know, well, I'll be, I'll be over there sitting

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down if you take a break and you want to talk about any of this stuff, you know, come join

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me and my friends were there and everything.

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So obviously that wasn't going to be the most comfortable scenario for her, but I, I sat,

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I went, I got my, got my fries and I went and sat down and it wasn't that long, maybe,

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maybe 30 minutes.

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And she came over and she had a tray of food.

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She was on a break and she sat down.

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Well, let me be clear.

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She didn't sit down with me.

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She actually asked me if we could go talk.

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And then I got up and went to a different booth and she sat down with me.

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So she begins to tell me that she's a newly single mother.

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And for this story, since I don't want to incriminate anybody or make anybody uncomfortable

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that might hear it, we're going to call her Sarah.

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So Sarah tells me that she's a newly single young mother.

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She lives on her own.

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She's basically got enough money to make it a month in the apartment that she's at.

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Maybe, maybe two, if she really pushes it.

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But the man in her life at the time had, you know, through her, through her pregnancy and

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everything had promised that they were going to, you know, they were going to do this and

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they were going to do that and they were going to make it.

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And then as soon as her daughter was born, he ghosted her.

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He disappeared.

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And back then, I mean, this is, this is the nineties.

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Back then when you ghosted somebody, they were pretty much just gone.

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Like there wasn't any social media or anything to find them.

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They were, you know, if they didn't want to be found, they were just gone.

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Unless you know, a friend narc'd on them or something.

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But for the most part, ghosting people back then was, was they were literally just ghosts.

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So she, here she was alone, suddenly trying to raise a baby daughter.

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And it just, it had just become too much for her.

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And when she would come into her new job, this McDonald's, she was, she was getting

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into trouble because she was showing up five, 10 minutes late because her situation dictated

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that she couldn't necessarily make it every time, every day on time.

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And so the managers and stuff were kind of laying into her and telling her that she was

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going to get fired.

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And this was creating a level of stress that was, it was just breaking her.

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And you could just see it, like I said, on her face, you could just see that she was,

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she was damn near the end.

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She was going to have a breakdown and everything was going to be really bad.

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So I just sat with her and we just talked and I told her about myself and we ended up

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spending the 30 minute break that she had just sitting there talking and going through

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all this stuff.

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And I told her, you know what, I'll, I'm here all the time anyway.

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I haven't seen you before.

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I didn't know the first time we met, but I'll be here tomorrow or the next day.

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And if you want to take a break, we can sit and talk some more.

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Now, like I said before, this wasn't a situation where I was necessarily, like there was no

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physical attraction.

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She was, she was a pretty girl.

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I'm not, I just, at the time I was with somebody and I wasn't really thinking like that.

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And so it, there was no ulterior motive for what I was doing.

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I just felt this overwhelming desire to help.

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And I realize now looking back on it, that that might not be something that everybody

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can relate to.

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I don't, I'm not somebody who necessarily understands that because I kind of live my

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life trying to help people.

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Even in my deepest depressions, I was trying to be pleasant and trying to help people.

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But I guess that's not something that everybody experiences.

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I guess that's not something that everybody can relate to.

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And that's as a side note, important because that's what we're trying to change.

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You know, we're really, we're really want to try to get people to understand the mindset

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that can go into being helpful and being kind and being there for the people that you contact

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and the people that you come across in life.

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So back to the story, I did come back, obviously, the next day and she was working and she took

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her break.

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And it was the same thing.

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You know, she wasn't, obviously she wasn't quite as upset for whatever reason.

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And we sat for 30 minutes.

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She took her, she took her lunch or break and she just came and sat with me and we just

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sat and talked.

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And this happened over the course of a few weeks, multiple times.

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I think it probably, probably been four or five, five times a week I was there.

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And like I said, this was just our hangout spot.

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We would just go get a drink and sit down and, you know, start shit with people as they

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walked by.

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We were, you know, Repscallions and hoodlums hanging out at the McDonald's at 3 a.m.

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But this, this moment and this interaction I had with Sarah kind of changed that a little

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bit.

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I kind of had, had removed myself for this period of time from these guys.

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And these are, these are my close friends and you know, obviously they're looking at

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it like, oh, are you trying to get with this chick?

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And I'm like, no, I'm just trying to help.

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And so them knowing me relatively well, they kind of backed off and they kind of understood

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where I was coming from.

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And so over the course of this month or so where I would go in and we would have these

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conversations, things were getting progressively worse for her, but she was feeling better.

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Having somebody there to talk to and to kind of lay down some of the burden that she had

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really helped her a lot.

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And I saw it and she, she said it a few times, you know, she was, she was happy.

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She was, she was glad she would look forward to going to work because it was almost going

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to work became a respite from the dreariness of the rest of her life.

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She got to come in and have a 30 minute therapy session with, with yours truly.

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And I knew that, I knew that it was a high point for her.

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She had, she'd explained it to me.

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And so I started to try to build on it.

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I, you know, I started to try to give some suggestions and some ideas of things that

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she could do, things that might make it easier for her and her daughter.

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So you know, like I said, this was a, this was a pretty concentrated period of time.

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This was a, I don't know, like I said, a month, month and a half that I did this and then

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life happens, things happen.

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And I think I got a job.

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I don't remember which job this was, but I got a job and I couldn't, I wouldn't come

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in all the time anymore.

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It became more of a once a week thing.

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But when I would, every time I would come in, she would come sit down with me and she'd

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eat some fries or whatever.

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And we'd sit and talk.

454
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Well, as time went on and she was, you know, she wasn't taking all my advice, but she was

455
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,680
listening and she was understanding that I was trying to help.

456
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,160
And so as time went on, she ended up taking some of my advice and doing the things she

457
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,640
needed to do to become a shift lead and then become a manager.

458
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,880
And this happened over the course of probably, I don't know, I want to say six to eight months.

459
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:23,320
She went from a new hire cashier to a shift lead.

460
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,640
And then she became the night manager of a pretty big McDonald's.

461
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,760
Actually, it was a pretty big deal.

462
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:37,680
And I'll never forget the first time, because I knew that she was up for the manager position,

463
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,760
but I'll never forget going in there and seeing her.

464
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,600
And she was, you know, wearing little manager shirts that they wear and everything.

465
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,440
And she just smiled at me.

466
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,000
And even now just saying that I just, the mental image of her smile, it's heartwarming,

467
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,560
honestly.

468
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Seeing her smile and she came and instead of me buying my food, when I went to go check

469
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,000
out or went to go up to the register, she just waved me off.

470
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,800
And I was like, okay.

471
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,720
And she's like, just go sit down.

472
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:17,640
So I go sit down and probably 10 minutes later, she comes around the corner and she's got

473
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,040
a tray of food for me.

474
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,880
And she was a manager now, so she got the perks.

475
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,860
And she went and she got food for us both.

476
00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:29,920
And we sat there and we had our normal.

477
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,340
I think it was actually a 45 minute conversation because she was the manager.

478
00:36:33,340 --> 00:36:36,400
She had to get up and go deal with a bunch of crap while we were talking.

479
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,820
But we ended up sitting there talking for quite some time.

480
00:36:40,820 --> 00:36:42,480
And then that would happen.

481
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,000
That ended up being the new normal thing.

482
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,920
It was once a week, once in a while, I would go in and sit down and we'd catch up.

483
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:57,000
And as time went on, life just went in separate directions.

484
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,160
And I stopped hanging out at McDonald's.

485
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,440
And I never had her phone number.

486
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,400
I never had any way of getting in contact with her.

487
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,580
There was a point where I didn't know where she lived.

488
00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:23,620
There was a point where her ex-man had come back into her life and was threatening her.

489
00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:27,920
And I remember her telling me that.

490
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:34,560
And especially then I was a lot more white nightish, if you will.

491
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:43,880
And I got her address and met her at the gas station by her house one day and followed

492
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,360
her to her house just to make a show of...

493
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,360
I never went in her house.

494
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,360
I never went in her...

495
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,360
It was her apartment.

496
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,360
I never went in her apartment.

497
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:59,920
But I remember going in there just to make a show of she's got muscle, basically.

498
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:06,920
And shockingly enough, I'm not really a big guy, but apparently I'm pretty intimidating.

499
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,480
So shockingly enough, it worked.

500
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:16,520
And this dude took off and from what I understand, didn't come back for a long, long time and

501
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,160
didn't bother her anymore, which was good for her and her daughter because that guy

502
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,880
was a real douchebag.

503
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:27,920
So as time went on, like I said, we just kind of went our separate ways.

504
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:35,000
And I won't say I forgot about her, but when life is happening, you tend to put things

505
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,600
that are in the past in the past.

506
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,360
And I was just living a whole new life.

507
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,160
Well flash forward about two years.

508
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,900
And I'll be honest, I don't remember the concert.

509
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:53,200
I don't remember what I was there with, but I was there with my mother and somebody else,

510
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,400
another friend of mine.

511
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:02,840
And we're out in the lobby leaving the merch booth.

512
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:09,160
And I've got a fresh new concert t-shirt over my shoulder and we're walking back into the

513
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,400
venue and I hear my name.

514
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,520
I just hear somebody yell, Daniel, Daniel.

515
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,400
And I turn around and I'm looking through the crowd and my mom heard my name as well

516
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,080
and she's turning and she's looking and she's somebody she recognizes.

517
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:31,360
And I remember scanning the crowd and not recognizing anybody and just being confused

518
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,920
and thinking, well, they must be talking to somebody else.

519
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:41,000
And then the crowd parted like a movie scene and Sarah was standing there.

520
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,680
But it wasn't the Sarah that I remembered.

521
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,480
It was an entirely different Sarah.

522
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,120
I mean, same face, same everything.

523
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,080
But this was a Sarah that didn't have McDonald's clothes on.

524
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,360
And I'd never seen that before really.

525
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,680
Like I said, I had seen it briefly when I stood outside of her apartment and intimidated

526
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,600
her ex-boyfriend.

527
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:05,280
But other than that, I had never seen her done up to go out and things like that.

528
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,600
It was just not something that had ever crossed my mind that she would look different.

529
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,040
I just always imagined her as a McDonald's employee.

530
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,960
And so there she was and she had a friend with her and she sees me and she has this

531
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:24,360
huge smile and she starts to tear up and I was shocked.

532
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,480
I was like, Sarah?

533
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,480
And she's like, yeah.

534
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,400
And she comes up and she just throws her arms around me and gives me the big one of the

535
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,640
biggest hugs I've ever had squeezes me till it hurt.

536
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,640
And she said, I saw you.

537
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,120
I didn't want to bother you.

538
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,120
I'm like, it's okay.

539
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,120
It's okay.

540
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,120
How are you doing?

541
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,000
You know, I'm trying to trying to small talk because it's weird.

542
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,800
It was weird to see like when you have an interaction with somebody and the only way

543
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,000
that you ever see them is in this one way and then you see them in an entirely different

544
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,000
way.

545
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:59,040
I mean, she had like a bunch of makeup on and she was all dressed up and she looked

546
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,520
great.

547
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,020
And it was shocking.

548
00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:07,560
Not that she could look great, but that she looked like she was really happy and healthy.

549
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:13,280
And that was a departure from the way that we had started our friendship.

550
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:20,160
And she said, I saw you and I had to tell you.

551
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,540
And I said, I had to tell me what?

552
00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:26,480
And she's at this point in time, she's damn near bawling.

553
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,400
I mean, she's having a hard time speaking.

554
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,560
And she just says to me, you changed my life.

555
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,560
I owe you everything.

556
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,040
And I'm not gonna lie, I actually just get a little emotional thinking about it.

557
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:50,800
She says, everything that you did, everything that you said changed everything in my life.

558
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,880
My life is better because of you.

559
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
And that's all she said.

560
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,920
And she just sat there and hugged me and I didn't know what to say.

561
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:05,840
I just, I was shocked and I just hugged her back.

562
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,760
And I said, are you, this is one of those moments where you say the dumbest possible

563
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,760
things.

564
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,760
Are you here for the show?

565
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,400
I mean, she's in the arena, like obviously had to take it to get in and I'm, are you

566
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,400
here for the show?

567
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,280
I just want to really, really stupid thing to say.

568
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,560
But and she's like, yeah.

569
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,960
And I was like, okay.

570
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:34,640
And I just remember looking back and seeing my mom and she's got like this puzzle look

571
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,240
on my face, but also was like, she was like freaked out, but also like, I don't know,

572
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,240
proud to a certain degree.

573
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:46,600
Like, I don't know if she'd even heard what Sarah had said to me, but she, she, I guess

574
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,760
she just assumed that like, I don't know.

575
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:55,960
I don't know what she assumed, but I thought at the time that she had this look of concern,

576
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,000
but pride.

577
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,960
And I don't, like I said, I don't, nothing else was really said.

578
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,520
I, there's, there's nothing more to that part of it.

579
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:13,520
But we go in, you know, I say, I say, okay, well, you know, just stay in contact or whatever.

580
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,360
And we went to the show and I went and watched the show and she went and watched the show

581
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,440
wherever she was sitting.

582
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,880
I didn't follow up on it.

583
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,880
And that was it.

584
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,080
That was, that would, that would normally be the end of the story.

585
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:34,240
And even that part of the story is, I believe enough to show, to, to evidence what small

586
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:37,520
kindness and consideration can do.

587
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:43,000
I really think that that would be a great end to the story, but that's not really the

588
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,000
end of the story.

589
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:52,920
And the end of the story is actually many, many, many years later, as in, uh, well, what's,

590
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,240
what year is this?

591
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,200
Uh, six years ago was 2016.

592
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,120
Um, I get a message on Facebook, don't recognize the name.

593
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,480
Don't know anything about it.

594
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,880
Don't know who this person is.

595
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:12,040
And I was like, oh, or did you, it just says, is this Daniel?

596
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,640
I was like, yeah.

597
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,400
Did you, do I know you?

598
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:27,160
And the person, uh, which we will call, let's say Jessica, uh, the, the person, uh, Jessica

599
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,760
says to me, you know, my mom.

600
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,400
And I was like, oh, what, who's your mom?

601
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,000
And she says, Sarah blank.

602
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,800
I'm not going to say her last name.

603
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,360
Uh, and I'm like, really?

604
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,880
This is, I knew you when you were a baby.

605
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,880
And she said, yeah, that's my mom.

606
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:55,800
And she was telling me about you and how you changed her life.

607
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:02,920
And I just wanted you to know that you didn't just change her life.

608
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,400
You changed my life too.

609
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:10,920
And I wanted to thank you because I wouldn't be where I am if it weren't for you.

610
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,660
And so, uh, you know, the, the, the conversation went back and forth a few more times and come

611
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:24,120
to find out that, uh, Sarah's daughter had grown up with her mom being a manager at a

612
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,560
McDonald's, which never would have happened if I hadn't talked to her.

613
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:34,520
And I, you know, we hadn't had the conversations that we'd had and ends up that she ended up

614
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,520
going to college.

615
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:41,480
And, uh, when I talked to her, she was working on, I think she was going to be a vet, some

616
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,040
sort of, some sort of animal doctor.

617
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,520
I don't know exactly what, uh, some sort of veterinarian.

618
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:54,000
I don't know what her particular specialty was going to be, but, um, now I haven't, I

619
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,480
haven't, I'm not going to say that there's like a big happy ending beyond that because

620
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,520
I haven't really talked to her since then.

621
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Uh, maybe she'll hear this.

622
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,240
Uh, maybe I'll post it, uh, if I can find that message again.

623
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:11,040
But um, you know, this was a girl that was, you know, she, I think she was 20 something

624
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:18,240
when she contacted me about her mother who was, uh, uh, a little bit older than me.

625
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,800
So, um, but it, it stunned me.

626
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,960
It completely floored me.

627
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,720
I, I, I'm not going to lie to you.

628
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:32,000
When I tell you that I, that was not a message that I ever could have expected or really

629
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,760
even wanted for.

630
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:40,960
I'm so happy and so proud that they were able to live a good life.

631
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:48,720
And, uh, and who knows the effects that they're, they're living and the lives that they've

632
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:55,040
affected and the lives that they've touched because of the, the positive energy that they're

633
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,680
bringing.

634
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,760
And I know that I had a part in that.

635
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:05,760
I know that I, I helped create that energy that, that, that went through multiple lives

636
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,480
and changed them for the better.

637
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:16,640
And it was really then, it was, it was at that concert actually where I thought, wow,

638
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,000
I didn't, I never thought I could do anything like that.

639
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:25,000
I, I don't really tend to think of myself as being overly important throughout most of

640
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,000
my life.

641
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:34,560
So it, when stuff like that has happened, it has really, really left me with a, a feeling

642
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,040
of pride and happiness, something that I can pull back on.

643
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:46,080
And when, when I got to my deepest, darkest parts of my depression, I would often think

644
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:53,520
about that story and that moment and all of the, the, the choices that I made, the small

645
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,720
things that I would say and the, the careful considerations that I took when, when talking

646
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:04,160
to her and dealing with her that would end up changing her life.

647
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,360
And I'm extremely proud of it.

648
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,160
But that's the end of the story so far.

649
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,920
That's all I know.

650
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,600
And I wanted to share that in this first episode because I think that it really does illustrate

651
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:26,000
just how powerful each of us can be and each of us really are.

652
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,800
A lot of people just don't know it.

653
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:33,960
A lot of people just don't understand the effect that each and every single one of us

654
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,720
can have on the people in our lives for good and for bad.

655
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:44,160
And if you're gonna, if you're gonna be here, if you're gonna be on this planet, if you're

656
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,120
gonna be trying to live with the rest of the people on this planet, then you might as well

657
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,320
be good.

658
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,600
You might as well try to bring as much light and positivity and love into the world as

659
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:56,960
you possibly can.

660
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:03,440
Now I'm gonna end the episode with a quote.

661
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:12,880
A quote that has stuck with me since I was, I'd say probably 14.

662
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:21,200
And it has haunted me and been an ever looming specter over my shoulder.

663
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,000
And that quote is by Henry David Thoreau.

664
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:31,320
And he once wrote, Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with

665
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,880
the song still in them.

666
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:40,600
I have lived many years of my life in quiet desperation.

667
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:48,680
Despite the warning that I got when I was 14 and first read Walden, I have lived, I've

668
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:53,600
lived out exactly what he speaks of in that quote.

669
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,400
And I don't want to do that anymore.

670
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:06,560
So from this point on, just like the little boy in that story, I'm going to make a promise.

671
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:17,360
I promise to use everything that I can and everything at my disposal, which isn't much,

672
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,280
but I'm gonna use every bit of power that I have in me to try to make this world a better

673
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,280
place.

674
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:29,760
And I'm going to try to help as many people as I can understand how beautiful and valuable

675
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,320
they really are in the grand scheme of things.

676
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,440
If you made it this far, I appreciate you.

677
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,240
And I thank you for listening.

678
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:44,360
The next episode will be up in a week, hopefully, from when you hear this.

679
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:52,080
And we're going to be talking about the very basic concepts that come into play when you're

680
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,600
trying to change your life.

681
00:50:54,600 --> 00:51:02,280
And the number one most important aspect is honesty and truth and understanding the value

682
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,720
and the importance of being earnest and forthright with people and making sure that you are as

683
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,880
authentic as possible in every way.

684
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,040
So that's what we have coming up in a week.

685
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,000
Thank you very much for slogging through this first episode as I'm trying to figure this

686
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,000
all out.

687
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,280
I promise you these episodes will get better as I get more comfortable.

688
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,080
This is my first go.

689
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,560
Thank you again.

690
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:52,040
And I want you all to have a very, very good day.

