So yeah, I was going to tell you the story of how you came on my radar.
Um, yeah.
So the influx of people who followed me and I followed them back.
Yeah.
You kind of get a general idea of, yeah, these people are quantum biology people,
but there's certain moments where this person's like this thing and
this person's that thing, right?
And so the story is it was last year in December, 2023.
And I went to this party in Austin.
It was basically like a gathering for like spiritual hippie people.
Yeah.
And I met a couple of people, like I knew online and we met in person
for the first time and that was super cool.
Um, I'm sure, you know, quantum biology, spirituality, it's not a common subject
to talk about like with most people.
So this was just where I got to, you know, wax poetic about it with them.
And we didn't talk about quantum biology at all, just spirituality.
I didn't think they knew cause they weren't wearing blue blockers or anything.
So we leave the party a couple of weeks pass and I had interviewed Jack Cruz
at this point.
And so one of them texts me, Hey, you interviewed Jack Cruz?
Holy shit, dude.
Like you're just random guy.
I met at a party and you interviewed Jack Cruz.
And I'm like, how do you know who Jack Cruz is?
We didn't even talk about quantum biology.
You know, quantum biology.
And they were like, yeah, yeah.
So at Baton Rouge or Louisiana, we went to a farming convention.
Apparently it was hosted by a girl in dreadlocks.
If that rings a bell.
Um, and Jackie Jolie gave a talk and yeah, yeah.
You, you know, it was a party.
Yeah.
You gave a talk in Baton Rouge to two people that went to Austin and came across
me, went back and we just connected the dots afterwards.
Like, Hey, we're both aware of quantum biology.
Jackie Jolie introduced us and her talk was super interesting.
Uh, we are now all about this light story.
And I was like, Oh, that's awesome.
So Jackie Jolie gives talks and Louisiana and all there.
And from then on you've been on my radar and that's when I knew like who you were
specifically, so that's our, that's my small world moment.
So it's cool to talk to you now.
Yeah.
Super, super cool.
That's super cool.
I just got chills.
I'm like, I'm going to go to the bathroom.
That's super cool. I just got chills.
I, man, the universe is awesome.
That's so cool.
That was a fun talk.
I was at a big farm event, actually kind of in Lafayette.
It's a little bit more west of Baton Rouge, but Baton Rouge would be the
town that you would know.
And, uh, it's fun.
It was at this farm that this girl's taking over from her parents.
She's a bad ass.
And yeah, they had like 200 people show up just homesteaders, you know, hippies.
They're like taking care of their family, but no, nothing about light and
realizing that they're doing everything right when it comes to like food, water,
you know, no vaccines, things like that, but did not know the light story.
And so that is so cool that two of them ended up in Austin.
Thank you for sharing that.
That's sweet.
Yeah.
It just goes to show like, you think it's 200 people, but that has ripple
effects, the most random and awesome ripple effects.
Yeah.
Um, and yeah, that's true.
There's a, I find like the hippie population.
We'll get everything right, but they just miss the light piece, which is pretty big.
Um, but he's been teaching them about it, you know, farmers even today, like
they're doing the right things and they're doing what their ancestors of
farmers did as well, but their ancestors are farmers had incandescent light bulbs
or fire, you know, and they don't realize they're getting like poisoned by this
thing, you know, so, um, it's really great to, they get it, you know, they're one of
the easiest, um, communities to grab and get it because even over your like
yogis and things like that, they get it, you know, and they sign right on.
They're like, Oh yeah.
Our ancestors didn't have any of that.
We don't need that.
Yeah.
They don't know.
They don't know it usually, but when you introduce it, then they catch on pretty quick.
So, yeah, no doubt.
How did you come into it all?
Did you find Jack Cruz first or?
Yeah.
So I was kind of in a similar boat.
Yeah. We'll talk about your healing story.
So we'll use mine, introduce yours, but I was basically like running away from
childhood problems to hoe like naturally to do that, you'll like lead down rabbit
holes to fill your heart.
Yeah.
And I came across health as one of those ways.
Oh, if I get so healthy, I'll enhance myself so much that I'll feel whole again.
And that was, that started with lifting weights, just aesthetic vanity reasons.
And just as it naturally evolved, you know, if you lift weights, you have
to eat nutritionally well.
Okay.
So I went down that rabbit hole and in the nutrition rabbit hole, another
aspect got introduced to me where I got red-pilled on big pharma and
the corruption and all that.
So there's this kind of intentional or unintentional agenda to
chemicalize our food and stuff.
And that's when there was more, it used to be just selfish, but when I
found out about that stuff, that's when I was like, Oh guys, we're all
getting screwed together.
Let's get them back.
I'm going to spread this as revenge kind of thing.
Yeah.
And so I was in the nutrition rabbit hole, trying to like educate myself about that.
But I had a, had bad insomnia so bad.
It was crazy.
It was like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be
like, it's just a segunda, like, no, it's okay.
It was.
I felt like I was doing everything right.
You know, the supplements, all that diet, I was reading a ton of books,
buying them on Amazon all the time.
Um, and I don't know, I would go to sleep feeling so tired from the day,
like during the day I was just tired.
So you think that I'd be tired enough to fall asleep and that was not the case.
I wouldn't fall asleep.
And then I'd wake up tired from lack of sleep and it just kind of continued.
So yeah, when I found quantum biology, I was in this just breaking point, what do I have to do kind of place.
But yeah, the struggle was real.
But my frantic search fed the Amazon algorithm just enough to where the most random suggestions would come through.
And my come to Jesus moment was coming across the book, you've most likely read it, The Mitochondriac Manifesto by Randy Lee.
And looking back now, that book is basically a compendium of Jack Cruz podcasts, very organized, put together digestibly.
And I was like, oh, this looks generic.
Doesn't look like anything special, but I read the reviews and one of the girls was raving about it.
Like, I've been a health nut for 10 years and this is the best thing I've ever read.
And that caught my attention.
And so I read the book and the section on blue light in particular struck like a chord.
I was like, oh my God, it's been staring at me in the damn face this whole time.
I'm taking magnesium supplements with my phone screen in my face.
No wonder I couldn't sleep.
So I just block blue light, watch the sunrise and roughly three to four weeks in my sleep stabilized.
That's awesome.
And from there on, obviously I was sold.
Sold with experience.
And so just been obsessed since then.
And I just kind of realized mentally the implications of a little paradigm.
You know, our eyes being clocks, every light being daylight, peak solar noon daylight.
And over many, many years of living like that, it kind of just sunk in like, whoa, this is crazy.
And yeah, now I'm just like the weird guy that wears these.
Of course.
Wired headphones.
Yep. Air tubes.
I got those. I have those Defender Shield ones. I love them.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you know, it's been a journey.
I've saved myself decades of arm probably.
Most definitely.
My parents are into this now and that's probably extended their life.
So yeah, that's my kind of journey in quantum biology.
It's been super fulfilling.
Yeah. Well, good on you. Thanks for sharing the light.
Yeah, of course. So I got to put the ball back in your court.
Yeah.
How did you come across the quantum biology part specifically?
And was there like, I believed in pharmaceuticals for a little bit.
You know, we all did.
Like how were your phases and how did it just kind of lead up into it?
So I didn't know anything about quantum in the beginning.
You know, as a kid, relatively healthy kind of typical childhood, we didn't eat a ton of junk compared to like what the kids are doing now.
It was somewhat different.
But college years, yeah, you know, drinking processed foods, pizza, you know, all those kind of things gained weight.
Phones had really started coming about then.
I'm kind of the last generation.
Like I had a pager at 16. You know, I didn't have my first like 18 or 19 years of age.
But then, you know, in college, you're on your laptop all the time.
You're under fluorescent light bulbs.
I had headaches almost every single day in college and never knew the connection to like literal lights dehydrating my brain along with Wi-Fi.
But it was probably more so the fluorescence.
But, you know, trying to always kind of do something outside and active.
I've always loved nature.
My career still to this day is I'm an equine and canine body worker, which is kind of like a physical therapist for animals.
And so I do get to work outdoors.
And because of that particular lifestyle, it kind of our career, it led me into a more healthy, natural based lifestyle.
You know, I still probably took some Tylenol and stuff for a headaches, but I was never a big pill pusher, never took a ton of antibiotics, you know, vaccinated as a kid.
But I don't think I've had anything since and always kind of knew I had some cousins that were kind of tinfoil hatwares.
And we would hear some of the corruption stories, mainly more like government based, you know.
But when I was doing my career trying to like heal animals on a whole body holistic approach, you kind of started noticing where like things were starting to be overused.
And I have a mom that a lot of back surgeries.
And so I started seeing patterns where like they're still doing the same system and it's not really helping you and it's not working.
And so I kind of was jumping on that bandwagon slowly.
I had a weightlifter friend of mine, actually, Jim Laird, you've already have you interviewed him?
He's in the quantum community now.
I've heard I've seen a he's like the strength coach guy, like the big huge caveman looking guy.
Has Meredith interviewed him?
Meredith has. Yeah, he's been on TV.
That's where I've seen him.
He was my he's been my first angel in life in general.
We met in Kentucky over 20 years ago, and I was still the girl that was like barely eating anything all day, like running every day, even though I hated it, because I thought that was the way to be skinny and healthy.
And so he first introduced me into strength training with weights and also paleo eating.
So he already saved my life.
That was at like 26, 27 years of age by probably two or three decades, right?
Because he usually got one in their 40s and 50s that already had thyroid issues and autoimmune issues, cancer, what have you.
So we stayed friends for a long time.
I moved to Louisiana.
I'm doing my job.
Well, I got Lyme disease five years ago from a tick bite.
At that time, I thought I was healthy.
I was riding horses three or four days a week.
I was lifting weights.
I was eating paleo, you know, the majority of the time, 80, 20.
I was still drinking regularly on the weekends for fun.
But when I got Lyme disease, my doctor, the only treatment they had in the allopathic system was to put me on antibiotics for three months straight.
And I was like, oh, like I already kind of knew about the microbiome.
You know, it had kind of come around in the natural past side.
And I was like, that's not going to be good, you know?
And so she did actually tell me, like, we'll go home, read up on it.
You know, we've got to test you for your co-infection, blah, blah, blah.
And when I read up on everything, everybody was like, don't do the antibiotics.
They don't work.
They make everything worse.
Even if they kill the Lyme, you're going to have side effects.
And so I really decided I didn't want to.
And I had found some natural tonics and herbal tinctures to try to heal it that way.
So I went back for my checkup first and she had my prescription ready.
And I was like, well, look, if I take these antibiotics for three months and I come back and we retest and I'm still positive for Lyme,
then what do we do? Oh, well, we just put you on three more months of antibiotics.
And I was like, oh, no, this doesn't work.
So I did not sign up for that program. I did not take the antibiotics.
I healed Lyme naturally with the herbal tinctures and the herbals and supplements that I had to help my immune system.
I was working with a naturopath at the time.
Well, Jim Laird and I was catching up and I was telling about me having Lyme disease and he had heard about Jack Cruz about two months prior.
And so it started jumping down the quantum rabbit hole. And he said, Jackie, we had everything else right.
The weight lifting, the paleo, the walking outside, you know, and he was like, well, we were missing the light component.
He's like, I've been working you guys in a gym under blue light like every single day, you know, stressing out your body.
So he's like, I think you need to check out this guy, Jack Cruz. I was like, all right.
So I started listening to some podcasts. I was still healing. So I had like brain fog and fatigue.
My brain was not functioning very well at that time. So I healed the Lyme.
I was getting down the Jack Cruz rabbit hole through that rest of that year.
And then luckily he had an event at his farm, which is in Slidell, which is about 45 minutes from here.
And Jim was going. He was a member by then and he was like, I can bring a guest.
And so I went with him, got to meet Jack, got to meet like a big, huge crew.
Meredith was there and it sold me. I had already started doing Sunrise and just making my nights dark.
That was like the only two habit changes I had started.
But by going there and also meeting everybody else that had almost come into the community, really from an illness or a sickness, you know,
insomnia or cancer, autoimmune disease or weight gain, me having Lyme disease, it was like you saw this whole tribe of truth seekers and warriors, you know,
that just wasn't going to be settled, but just the answer that allopathic was going to give you because it wasn't working.
Some of the people had tried everything, you know, and wasn't working.
So that's kind of how I got into Jack Cruz and quantum biology to begin with.
Once I met everybody, I was just really sold and kind of hit it full blast because I will say even though I healed my Lyme disease naturally,
I was left with all kinds of symptoms afterwards, like GI issues.
My brain still wasn't really like functioning like it should have been.
My hormones and thyroid levels were on the floor.
And of course, my allopathic doctor, she just goes, well, we're going to put you on thyroid medication and hormone replacement for the rest of your life.
I was 36 and I was like, no, I'm not doing that.
And so again, I was just like, you know, I've seen some changes with changing this whole light diet very quickly, you know, just like you.
You saw your insomnia that you'd had for years change in three or four weeks.
One of the biggest things I noticed for me when I first started changing my light life and again, just seeing sunrise in the morning and trying to make my nights dark.
I had never been hungry in the morning my whole life, like even as a child and as a young adult, I was never hungry, but I was never seeing the sunrise.
And I was doing the whole intermittent fasting, having coffee and like ruining my hormones.
So it wasn't surprising now like how I'd run through my thyroid adrenals and hormones, even with Lyme disease.
I walked my dogs every morning at sunrise for 15 to 20 minutes.
And within three weeks, my stomach was growling in the morning every day.
And I was like, there's something to this because that's a physiological change in my body that I haven't taken a supplement for.
I haven't bought anything like I have done nothing but see the sunrise really.
And so now I'm four and a half years down the path and my brain works like a Ferrari.
My hormones and thyroid levels are back to optimal or back to normal and above.
Actually, sleep is great. GI issues are great.
Libido is fantastic.
Like I'm turning 40 this year and I feel better now than I even did in my 20s.
You know, going to college and having all the energy you're supposed to have.
You know, my new company that I've done now, which I know we'll talk about in a little bit.
That literally got downloaded to my brain sitting under the sun in Tulum, Mexico, right after I like jumped all in on quantum biology.
So it's just it's magical. You know, we all get into this for the physiological changes, which does improve.
But the mental part and the spiritual part, I had no idea what would come from just connecting to that light outside.
And it's been magical to now.
Yeah, I want to knock on everybody's door and tell them about quantum biology and the light because I truly believe it's how we heal,
how we unite and how we get ourselves out of this catastrophe of normal that's out there right now.
The catastrophe of normal is right. Yeah.
Yeah. To give you context, I work in the military, so I'm on year five of seven years and that gives me a good perspective on what's normal.
Weight gain, being tired on caffeine, insomnia, hurting by 25 or 30.
These are all so normalized and like 27 year olds will tell me, Batana, that's my last name, Batana, wait till you get older.
Those joints are going to give out on you. And I'm like, brother, I'm 23.
No. That's kind of crazy, don't you think?
But everyone's kind of just echoing it and you sort of believe that that's just how it is.
And so it's been really interesting. I'm in my free time. I'm with you guys.
You know, I'm connected to you guys on the Internet.
But in my work time, 40 hours a week, I just see the contrast of how everyone thinks.
And I kind of have to hold myself back, not be super overzealous about it, because that will just turn a lot of people off.
Yeah, the normal. It's just there's not that much contrast.
And so to highlight the contrast, you're saying you feel better at 40 than you did when you were a college student, when you were at your peak, supposedly.
Right. You told the story. But if you had to say the story of quantum biology specifically, like you do in your talks as a communicator, how would you kind of not T.L.D.R. it, but just put it in this nice package?
Like as a storyteller, how would you get someone to just think and be curious?
Like, huh, there is something really interesting here.
And like personally, the angle I take is the moment you find out that the eye is anatomically a clock.
All these implications just follow from that second, second order, third order. Right.
So the eyes, a clock, every light, most artificial lights in existence resemble daylight.
Those lights are on a lot. Just these three things will paint a cascade that over a long time.
I don't know. You can just see the picture at that point.
So how would you like tell that story in general?
I mean, I do have my own little kind of method that I do want to have my talks, but I will say that I still take those little seeds of nuggets of light knowledge from Cruz or Carrie Bennett or some of our other influences that we have, because like I said, with every teacher or guru or person that you're learning from in life, everybody has little snippets that are so helpful.
And through the years, I will say I've gotten definitely more fiery, very much like Uncle Jack. Like, I don't want to punch you in the face with the truth sometimes, but not so much in a punch. I do want to make them curious.
So I'll still give examples of where it's like, oh, wait a minute.
And so one that I do use in my talk that's actually from Cruz, because I just think it literally just lays it out, is I'll ask a lot of people, especially at the farm talks and things like that.
If you had a tree that was supposed to create fruit or a rose bush or a flower, you know, and if you put it in the ground, what does it need to survive?
What does it mean to live, to grow and create its fruit or create its flower? And most people are going to say, you know, water, sunlight, you know, and then they obviously need RCO2 to breathe in and make their photosynthesis.
But then he says, obviously, okay, you need those three things. What would happen to it if you put a big tarp over it? And of course, if people think about it, they would obviously say like, oh, well, it will eventually die because it's not getting its water.
It's not getting its sunlight or its CO2. And we're really no different. I tell people in my talks, we're just a big walking, talking, complicated plant.
We run the exact same system of photosynthesis in our bodies, just like the plants and trees and then of course, the other mammals that are living outside do.
And we have to be able to do that system. And when we're living our indoor lifestyle and when we're wearing sunglasses when we go outside or wearing clothes or sunscreen when we go outside,
we're doing the exact same thing of putting a tarp over our bodies and not allowing it to grow and fruit and evolve and mature like it's supposed to.
And I think that's just a really great example because a lot of people can just relate to something so simple. They've all either tried to grow a vegetable garden or a flower or a plant or tree of some sort, usually, or at least learned about it in biology school.
If they're living in a concrete jungle. And so I love that example because we're really no different even though we've gotten into this modern era of being a modern human being where things are so convenient and this echo chamber that you talk about of things of, well, that just happens when you get older.
Oh, it's just because you're a woman or, you know, any of you here.
That has become the new normal. But when I look at people in the room and I go, you know, when you think about the sun being out there and it literally brings life to everything that it touches, just sit and think for just a second.
How could it possibly be bad for you? Even though that's what we keep hearing. Don't think about that for just a second. Just sit and use your brain and just think, how could the thing that brings life to everything that it touches? If we didn't have that, we'd all be dead. We wouldn't be here.
None of us bacteria. You're like, none of it would be here. And so I bring up a lot of those topics, you know, when we bring up stuff about skin cancer and the sunscreen.
I even bring up the statistics of, you know, ever since sunscreen was invented and we're living indoors 90% of our time now away from the sun and wearing sunscreen when we go outside, then how come skin cancer is been continuously continuously on the on the rise?
That doesn't add up, you know, if we're staying inside more. So people go, huh, you know, like I can see it in their faces and their eyes when you just bring up and that's all that's just that one to punch right there like just enough to like, just enough that maybe they'll go home and look at the ingredients on the back of their sunscreen because I tell them not one not two not three not five but 78 were recalled during COVID.
Because they had two high levels of carcinogenic material in it. So, you know, maybe the sunscreen is actually what's causing cancer, because it's in your system and in your bloodstream within a minute our skin is our largest organ that also works off of a clock.
So I always like to bring in that anatomy. I like to bring in the really easy resonating clock type of pictures. I love that plant analogy. I think that's just one of the most perfect ways to get people to really think about it.
And I think most people understand that eyes are important. I've brought up even more data of myopia and blindness and something that I bring up a lot, especially I was just in China recently for my manufacturing, and it was sad, everybody from like, a toddler walking and crawling on the ground to everybody in their 50s and 60s, all had prescription glasses on.
And they were all glued to their phone. And I was telling somebody about it the other day about the prescription glasses and they're like, well, why do you think that is and I'm like, because the blue light is blinding us like it's making us blind.
When I was in high school, you know, you might have seen four or five people that were prescription glasses. It was not the norm. And now it's so normal and you see young kids with like coke bottles, you know, on their face and I'm not here to obviously like judge or pick on somebody wearing prescription glasses, but they're never needed.
And so, our cavemen and our tribal people that are in their 80s and 90s living outside, none of them need prescription glasses. I always bring that up in my talks too. None of them have heart disease, none of them have diabetes, none of them have cavities and they got beautiful teeth and they don't even brush their teeth.
Like, tell me how that works, you know.
Yeah.
Shout out Weston Price.
No doubt. You know, the women still have their periods into their 50s, 60s and 70s. Not that we'd probably want that, but it should show that your body has that vitality that, you know, when you talk about the guys being like, oh, your joints are going to go bad.
We should feel pretty damn good until literally the day we drop dead, you know, bombing any type of like injury or accident or anything that really truly should be how it goes down.
You know, our ancestors, they were either just dying from sometimes an illness because we've been more clean nowadays to help prevent that or they got eaten by a tiger or a, you know, war that came in and somebody killed them.
So, we're supposed to have that longevity.
You know, I'm at the age group right now where like I've recently lost a grandparent and I've got friends that are finally losing some of their elders and these elders are living 98, 99, 100 years of age. My grandmother is 87 and she still walks on her own, lives on her own, drives on her own.
She's quite the inspiration. She only has readers that she has to use for when she's like reading a book, you know, she doesn't wear like prescription glasses.
But she was never raised around any of the Wi-Fi radiation, the blue light at all. They were post-depression babies, so they didn't even eat a lot. To be honest, there was eight of them in the house.
But there's such a contrast there when you can compare just two generations before mine that are living until 87, you know, 90 years of age with not a ton of disease. And now we look at my generation and below and we've got cancer in kids and in our 20s and 30s.
And people are like, oh yeah, you're going to get cancer in your 40s and 50s and wear glasses and you're just getting old and your joints are going to give out.
What? What happened? You know, like we're supposed to be progressing as a species and well, we know what happened, right? But we're trying to send that message.
So that was kind of long-winded, which I am. But I like to give a lot of those real life examples because then people go, oh yeah, I have seen more people with prescription glasses or I have them or, you know, somebody with blood pressure and statins or somebody that works inside all day and still got skin cancer.
You know, we can use those examples to show this is what's going on with light.
Your real series on skin cancer was fantastic, by the way.
Thank you.
That was used the way you kind of just reasoned and laid it out sequence by sequence.
Like the train of thought and the curiosity seeds you planted in there. Spectacular. I recommend everybody to go to her Instagram page right now and like watch those three reels because those are the part where I didn't know was the skin cancer parts were on places that were covered in clothing.
And immediately that should raise some dissonance and uncertainty about the certainty or bed and indoctrinated with recently my work group chat.
One of the people posted, hey, happy Labor Day weekend and make sure you wear your sunscreen.
And that's just a normal part of everything I see. And I wish I was tempted to send that real, but you know, I'll talk to.
Oh, man.
So that's the thing. That's the thing. Like, be that black sheep in the military, the most conformist organization.
Yeah. Oh, man. Am I so tempted?
I bet it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be.
Yeah, for sure. I'm doing my job one piece at a time.
But well, while you were talking there, I could just I'm curious. Have you ever come across the counter argument? Hey, that's just an appeal to nature fallacy because that is one line of, I don't know, attack that you're just appealing to nature the whole time.
Have you ever come across something like that or like a person is upset that you're just appealing to nature?
Yeah. So yeah. So when you were telling that story, right, there's a lot of nature in there and someone eventually in some form of fashion will just say, hey, you're just feeling the nature, nature, nature as like your main card.
Right.
And I don't know, like, what would you, what would you say to that? Because, I mean, we are technically but.
Yeah, I haven't had anybody say that, although I will say most of my crowds have been pretty nature centric you know yogis or natural health centers or farmers you know they're, they're usually pretty tied to nature.
If somebody said that, it would be really hard for me not to bite my tongue and be like Jack Cruz and just be like, we are fucking nature.
Like I don't, I wouldn't know how else to like tell something that like you are in the mammalian kingdom, you know, when you break down.
People have forgotten that by like living inside and having this modern lifestyle.
But yeah, I mean that would probably be my response of just like, do you not think that you're not nature I mean we, we have the same hair as the animal and we have you know the same fascia and skin tissue and organs and we are literally organized into that kingdom of the mammalian
kingdom. So, I wouldn't know if I have any more of my time after saying that.
Yeah, it's a bit, it's a bit of a disingenuous argument but it's there. It's definitely there.
Yeah, to like give you a more clarification on what it is. It's basically ascribing good or bad in a moral sense to something just because it's natural versus not.
So, so versus like what we do.
We study nature because nature is what is right. That's a distinction.
And so for any quantum biology person listening if you're ever told that we're not ascribing morality to anything, everyone can do what they want. Free will, you know, you do you.
But we are describing hey, sunlight is predominant. Hey, your eye is a clock. Hey, skin cancer spots are in places that are covered, we're just pointing out observations and like Jackie did in her whole spiel, we're creating uncertainty
and dissonance, just by what we're observing. And now I noticed when you were describing your story and the quantum biology story, a big part of it is just zooming out and realizing over 200 years, the stark differences that the population, disease, health, etc.
From back then to now. I'm a 23 year old kid and man when I was in elementary school, maybe one in five, ten people had glasses. Now, one in three to two.
And that's something I've noticed in my own short life.
So it's just these things that we point out. So I do want... I just want people to get more curious because it's like why are we accepting that echo chamber? Why are we accepting just, oh yeah, your eyes are going bad but hey we have glasses or contacts or laser surgery for that.
And it's like, but our eyesight never went bad before and your eyesight's not supposed to go bad till like the day you die or getting close to the day you die. And I'm not, I mean I have my, you know, red pill ideas of why we're not so curious anymore and a lot of it has to do with the light, a lot of things.
But it is just such a shame to not see people kind of try to look from outside and be curious more. My curiosity has even just grown even stronger since changing my light life. Of course my brain is functioning even more so than it used to be but I've always kind of been naturally curious and it came from my upbringing.
And in many ways I was raised pretty strictly religious, not any denomination or anything but it was just a really strict household based towards religion and so it was a lot of rules and regulations without a lot of reasonings behind them.
And I didn't fall for it for whatever reason and so I always was rebelling in a way and saying I was the kid that was like, well why? Why do we have to do it this way? Why do we have to do it that way?
And it was just like, well I'm your authority figure or the Bible or God is your authority figure and they say so so we just do it and I just, I could never settle for that.
And I went through years of struggling, of not having faith and not, you know, I still can't go to church but I have a completely different spiritual and spiritual path now and method in my life and the light life has also brought a lot of that back.
You know, I always knew there was a bigger, greater thing because of my upbringing. I just never liked it in the way that I was being told of how it was supposed to be.
So I still see that in our modern era too and you know, I try to just tell people all the time, even though we're giving you all this information on light like you're saying and prescribing to nature.
I know that people have their free will, they can still choose whatever they want and hey, medicine is still needed sometimes, you know, when I broke my arm like I needed surgery, I needed antibiotics, I needed painkillers, you know, like I needed those things at that moment to save me my life and to save me from probably a lot of like pain and struggle, right, or infection.
But not long term goal and people have the free will to make those choices but people are not getting informed consent. And so they're not all of the information and it's a shame that people aren't curious enough to want to ask for it all.
But that's really my main goal of like, let me just give this information to you.
So as I'm sure as you struggle in the military, it is hard to see family or friends or people that you care about you really want them to do well so you really want them to take and grasp onto this information but as we all know you can't force anybody to change or do things unless they want to.
And the best way for that to happen and to be that ripple is then to just live it fully yourself and I have now experienced that over these last three or four years of doing talks, doing reels, you know, going on social media, which was not my intention.
But I knew that the message was so important. And even if I have a room of, you know, 100 farmers and the only two people that listen to me are the ones that go to Austin and tell Ken for batana about Jackie Jolie.
And I'm now spreading the message to however many followers you have. And so I'm okay. I want to be that little ripple effect that even if I just grabbed two people from that audience that's two more lives that I have literally enlightened to become healthier and to save their lives
and then who knows who they spread it to. And that's always something I ask at the end of my talks like, even if you don't get any of the science and you don't think you'd explain it as well.
All I ask is that you just go share this with people that you care about and that you talk to. And even if it's just like, hey, see sunrise and make your nights dark. Those two things alone will make major changes.
So that's all I ever ask.
Oh man. So let's think about it. If somebody corrects their light and dark cycles and they get better sleep, correct insomnia, and in your case, correct all the host naturopath, Lyme disease, treatment symptoms you had.
How do you quantify that? How do you quantify the worth of that? Can you put a number on it?
No.
And dollars, anything? No, right?
No.
So even if you influence one person, it's a priceless shaping influence. Just so like if people are concerned with numbers or whatever, it's so priceless. Even if you get one yourself is one, of course, but another one.
That's a whole life for the better. And that's something you just cannot quantify at all. There's nothing, no amount of money. I would have paid so much money to have a light switch my insomnia off.
But Randy Lee enlightened me. Jackie Jolie enlightened whoever. And I don't know. That's just so fulfilling. It's the most fulfilling part of spreading this knowledge.
I'm sure you've gotten them to, but I've had countless messages from people that have heard one little snippet or this little snippet or came to my talk and they just made their slight changes. I've heard from men that say like their libido is back, which makes them more connected to their wives.
The sunrise in the morning and they're just so incredibly grateful. And it literally brings tears to my eyes and it just makes my heart so, so happy to know. And you just see them. They're glowing. And I know what that feels like because I know when I started to change those things, people are like, oh my gosh, Jackie.
What are you doing? You're just glowing. And I'm already kind of a happy person, but I just turned into that big glowing energy ball. And then besides the fulfilling part of these people's telling you my life has completely changed and thank you for this and I'm feeling so much better, I got off all my meds.
You know, or I'm walking better, family time is better. Also the magic of the quantum entanglement connections, just like what we're having right now. I couldn't even tell you. There's just been so many, especially with my company and everything that's going on. Like things just totally just fall and land.
And it's like, it's like magic. It's just crazy. And it, you always used to hear about manifestation and prayers. And of course with my religion background too, you know, you're praying and you're trying to help things happen in miracles. And you hear it from a very black and white.
Like if you do this, the next one is going to happen. Right. And sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't, which doesn't help people with faith. But now understanding like the science part of like the frequency and the magnetism and the light and the water and knowing that water holds memory and you can send it across space.
And then we're all connected by the photons and the electrons that we have going on. Like now that I know that, I can manifest anything I want. And I'm doing it. You know, like really like, and it's happening.
And I'm just like blown away every single time something happens. And I just want everybody to have those experiences. Like we can all have way more abundance than we've ever been told or ever thought possible.
And that's why I want everybody on the light train.
Everybody, including our four legged friends, right?
Absolutely.
You work as a body worker for horses and dogs primarily. So that's the interesting thing about you.
The quantum biology figures, they have their unique slant that they come at this paradigm with. And yours, I don't see many people talking about animals.
Right. So you know how we have seen humans and like how certain things have been normalized. Obesity, diabetes, all this stuff. I am not aware of animals, like the issues around the animals.
I'm sure it's the same. But you know, I've always seen animals as I've seen them. No contrast since I've never worked with them.
So pre-quantum biology, what were you seeing in the animals and post-quantum biology or whatever modality? What changes have you seen that changed the animals' lives for the better and improved them?
Yeah. So in my line of work, I work with a lot of athletes for the most part. Dogs have usually been pets. You know, they might have an ACL tear or an injury.
Or I worked on some dogs with lymphoma. And during the first few years of my work, I really didn't have an idea of the patterns, you know, and I didn't know quantum yet.
So working on things, seeing like just, you know, horses get this weird disease called EPM. It's very similar to Lyme. And now we're starting to see kissing spines everywhere, which is a vertebral effect.
We're starting to see a lot of allergies. Like horses are, there's some horses that are literally allergic to grass, which is what they eat, right? Like that's the natural forage for a horse.
And so granted, most people think it's just odd, but in the medical system, and this is kind of what happens in the human side too, it's like, well, let's just fix whatever that like main symptom is.
We don't sit down and go, why is this happening? Like, why are they now having a histamine response to like their literal natural forage?
Now that I know what I know, like, I definitely think the light story plays a huge part as far as suppressing the immune system in general.
But we're also over-vaccinating our animals, just like the humans are. And, you know, I learned recently through R.F.K. Jr. that the aluminum that's in the vaccines that are given is like this really magnetic, I'm not going to explain it scientifically very well,
but it's like this magnetic isotope that can attract things really easily. And so the way he's described it with vaccines is a mammal can get injected with a vaccine. And the next thing that they come in contact with, while that aluminum is still really active throughout their system,
it can create an antibody response to want to fight that thing. So that's why you might see babies like after their vaccinations, they become allergic to breast milk, which is literally what they were just drinking from their mother, you know, week prior.
Same with their pet dog or things like that. So in my mind, I'm like, ah, I wonder if that's also what's happening now with like dogs and horses getting these crazy allergies that never existed before. We see that in the human side as well.
But on the animal side, as far as autoimmune conditions and diseases, we now have dogs getting one in three are going to have cancer. 60% of cats and dogs are obese.
60% of cats and dogs have a metabolic syndrome issue, which is they call it something different. They call it Cushing's, but it's basically diabetes for animals.
Horses also get Cushing's and about 40% of all horses have Cushing's. Just think about that. Like a wild animal, like a horse, has a metabolic syndrome, right? And you wouldn't think that most horses are kept inside, but on the performance side, like they're in a stall a lot.
They don't get to go out and walk a lot, so they're not grounding with the earth. They're inside under either very dark lighting all day long, or then very bright LEDs all day and all night.
So they're not getting their sleep either. So I've started seeing all of these like autoimmune issues, allergies, cancers. We don't see cancer in horses quite as much, and I think that's only because they still are technically outdoors more than like our indoor pets like cats and dogs who are now suffering from cancer more.
So horses aren't going to be around like the modem and the Wi-Fi and the cell phone signal and indoors as much. So they are still a little grounded and they still are outdoors.
So I started seeing all these things, but before quantum, I didn't really see the patterns as much until I learned the quantum biology. And then I was like, oh, and of course on that allopathic side too, they're not as malicious as the human side because there's not as much money to be made.
Right.
So they're still on the path of like, let's just fix the symptom and put a band-aid, which is usually a medication and also just normalizing it. Oh, well now the horse is seven, so they're getting older. Well, seven is actually the prime of their life, you know.
We have dogs now getting lymphoma at three, two years of age and dying within six months of that time. Like that's not normal, but we don't have an answer for anybody either on the allopathic side. And so they're just blaming genes, right? Because that's what happens on the human side as well.
And yeah, by now there's probably been some gene changes and adaptations just like on the human side, but why did the genes change? So when now that we can rely everything back to mitochondrial health to lead towards all mortality diseases, we now know that it's the circadian rhythm disruption.
I mean, all mammals are diurnal except for, you know, your raccoons and owls, mice, you've got a couple of nocturnal animals, but all the rest of us are diurnal animals. So we're supposed to have that light and dark cycle and our indoor pets are not getting that.
And obviously with our pets, we can talk about diet and water and exercise. Those are still important to them as well.
But if their body has this general inflammation in it because the circadian clocks are all jacked up, it really doesn't matter what water, food and exercise you change because you're still going to be fighting that general inflammation.
So that's what I saw in my industry over the last like three years. And sitting under the sun in Mexico, the divine decided to give me a mission of creating a red light therapy blanket for animals.
And so that's what I've been working on while still working my full time job and doing everything else. And finally to the day now where we have launched dog blankets so far, literally a month from today we launched.
We will provide horse blankets, some horse leg wraps and bell boots. I'm making a cat pad.
And my patent has stated that I can make red light therapy blankets for animals in general. So down the road if somebody has a sick goat or zebra or giraffe or chicken or whatever we can try to make whatever we can to help them.
But my main big mission out of all of this is I want to bring this light story that we're all talking about now in the quantum side with humans.
I want to bring that to the animal industry because nobody is talking about it.
We have naturopath vets that talk about you know acupuncture and chiropractic and of course they're talking about the toxins in the food and the vaccines and the water.
Mold, myotoxins, environmental toxins, but nobody's really talking about you know Wi Fi and modem and cell phone and blue light at night and light and dark cycles and so I want to bring that large light story to the animal industry.
And my hopes are as I'm telling the pet owners that are sitting there listening to it.
I love how the light bulbs go off and they go wait a minute I'm a mammal too and I stay inside glued to this thing all day long too and maybe I should make these changes.
So I'm really trying to be sneaky and grab like a couple of all of the mammals four legged and two legged at the same time.
By going to conferences trade shows that shows all of that and really trying to get this message out there.
That is so sneakily smart.
Thank you.
I didn't even think about that because yes these animals do have owners usually.
You're not selling it to a horse itself.
Wow. Yeah so that's when you got when you think about it.
Before quantum biology.
I just looked at animals like yeah they're just living their lives, nine to 12 years old is their lifespan, but now I've had roommates, I've had friends and I have, you know, close with their pets naturally, and they're just in the
they're just in this blue lit cage 24 seven literally.
Some, some animals, the lights over their head or they sleep.
The ones downstairs there's an ambient light on while they're in their cage.
And I know when their parents, parents, yeah we'll call them parents, go to work.
They're just there in the blue lit house, there's nobody with an incandescent bulb around anymore.
And it's, it's crazy that the Wi Fi is on I'm sure when they leave.
I don't know they live in microwaves essentially and what implications does that have you, you just told me for the first time, the stats on the animal side of the story, I have a general understanding of the stats of the human side, you know one and three,
one and two and that, but it's just as bad on the animal side apparently.
And this too is getting normalized and yeah so how's, how are you thinking the red light blanket would alleviate that because obviously red light is a big part of the solution.
Yeah, so as you know I mean as we're learning in quantum biology, you know we have plenty of hurdles to get past to people and most of it's the education and to discredit what has been normalized for so long, and that takes time, and it's hard, you know, I think one of our biggest
things I tell Meredith all the time is that this new quantum lifestyle is actually simpler, easier, fun, even. And we're so used to in the modern lifestyle we have to have 30 supplements on the cabinet, and these all these rules and it's got to be work out every
two hours and like this really hectic chaotic healthy way of living, and it doesn't have to be like that, but I know even in this story of going forward. My blankets are not going to fix all the issues, you know we still need to fix the issues of having your pets
in a circadian rhythm chaotic environment under blue lights, Wi Fi radiation. But to first bring that out it may not be so well receptive. So the nice thing is with the red light blankets you know I started thinking about the general inflammation
that everybody's walking around with because of our circadian rhythm disruption. So if I can come into the industry with just like somewhat of a fix in a way, hoping and alleviating these conditions that animals currently are dealing with right.
That gets me in the door and that already starts helping animals now. I mean the great thing about red light even if you have a quote unquote normal young animal that you just want for optimal performance, there's already so much research behind red light therapy that shows there's performance enhancement you know it will help muscles grow better it'll help wounds heal and injuries heal better because if you're an athlete you're going to get injured at some point. With over 7000 scientific articles I've already got a pretty big punch behind red light therapy which is fantastic.
So that gets me in the door as well as right now red light therapies really blowing up on the human side which is nice because now if people know a little bit about it they go oh I can do this for my animals like okay you know they're like my children let's get it. So that gets me in the door we are going to start a whole like as you've seen on my private page for the last or my personal page.
The last like two years I was doing all these reels talking about from the very beginning of mitochondria all the way sunscreen and skin cancer and cell phone damage and vaccines and all the things. My intention is to bring that whole story to the animal industry as well we don't have as many followers yet and I'm still working my full time job so I don't have all that content built yet.
But that is the intention so the red light therapy blankets will get me in the door start helping the animals with conditions now and then we start the educational content like well why does this work you know because some people go oh you're going to stick a flashlight on my animal or you're going to stick a light on my animal and it's going to do something.
Again red light therapy has over 7000 articles also what I tell people light is literally go Google it the fastest and strongest natural energy source in existence of the universe.
So it works it can heal you but it can also harm you if it's done in the wrong ways and so that's the education that I now want to bring to the animal industry to where hopefully besides just using the red light therapy and selling a product to somebody they're now going to get the education of why does this work
I'm going to give them the informed consent they can still make their choice of living the way they want to not buying a blanket and doing whatever or they can have the informed consent to save their whole family including their pets moving forward.
I even have like three or four other products I would like to develop that will all be around light based technology and circadian rhythm technology for animals and the industry so this is definitely a long term plan and mission but that's where the red light kind of gets me in the door initially
to start helping animals and to start bringing this topic of light to the animal industry in general because nobody's talking about it and I'm not a vet a doctor or scientist you know so I've kind of got to get in the door this way.
What are some do you have any stories of animal what do you call it like you have case studies.
Yeah.
Improve health and animals from implementing all this biology stuff.
I haven't had a case long enough with like an actual disease yet just because I've had some prototypes and we just got launched but I'll be looking for those.
But I have a couple as far as like wounds and energy injuries that are like phenomenal. So, I had a horsey other a little while ago that had a suspensory tear and it's ligament so that's kind of like down on their leg.
It would be like us having like a like a hamstring tear or something's pretty serious. And those usually include only like 60 days of rest in a stall. They inject it with some steroids to help it heal faster and that's kind of just the typical protocol and they use an ultrasound to like find it and diagnose it.
So they found the tear. They, they did all the normal protocols I can check it with the steroids okay she's going to have 60 days of just stall rest hand walking and then we'll, you know we reassess at 30 days basically and see how it's doing.
So all we did was just add the leg wrap which is one 15 minute session of red light therapy a day. That's all we did for 30 days. The vet came back at the 30 day checkup and he could not find the tear on the ultrasound.
I could not find even like a remnant, a scar tissue part, nothing. And even he said, I've never seen one heal this fast.
I was like, okay. And then one case that we will showcase soon is a horse that it kept having sinus issues for a couple of months and they tried allergy medicines and stuff and it just kept getting worse so they're like something else is going to be going on.
And we have LSU vet school right here in Baton Rouge and so they sent them over there for the specialist. They found out through an x-ray that he had an infected tooth up here on his upper jaw.
And so for some reason the way the location was they couldn't go in orally to remove it. They had to actually put him under and open up his skull and take it out from here.
So they took it out. He comes home with this you know gaping hole on his face and he's on antibiotics and you know rest and all these things.
Well, the wound just won't heal like two weeks passes by it won't heal. It's oozing. It's not closing up.
The vet thinks, oh well there must still be like an infection or a remnant left of the tooth. We're going to have to open him back up and we'll debride it all out clean it send him back home.
So they open his skull up again, debride everything out there's nothing there they send them home still on antibiotics still on stall rest. It won't heal.
Kinford they opened up this horse's skull four times looking for something.
So they put him under surgery on her anesthesia and opening up the skull where there's a lot of nerves. There's not a lot of fat tissue or protection.
He comes home. He's so swollen big old gaping oozing wound. He's starting to get trigeminal nerve damage now and he's like twitching and shaking and rubbing his head raw like it's getting bad.
They're putting him on steroids now gabapentin for the nerve damage. They put him on different antibiotics to just see if they can heal the wound with a different antibiotic which you know is tearing up his gut.
So the client finally calls me and she goes I'm ready to try crystals. I'm ready to try whatever. Do you have anything that we can help him with to heal the wound?
And I was like dude why didn't you call me like after like the first week? And I was like will you try some red light therapy?
And again getting into all of this I know it's going to work. I never know how fast sometimes it's going to work but animals are way more sensitive than humans.
It seems to go faster is what I'm starting to realize. So she just started doing again one 15 minute session a day. That was it.
That wound was closed in 14 days. It was incredible. And then I'll just share one more because it's not really a full case yet but I have a dog right now that's in Massachusetts that's trying my blanket.
She just got it last week. She rescued the dog two years ago so she didn't know a lot of its history but he was healthy. He was fine.
He'd come from like a neglected case so he needed some food and TLC but he was fine. A year ago he went completely paralyzed.
Paws and legs started curling in like this and completely paralyzed. No injury no accident or anything.
She spent about $10,000 this year on ultrasounds, x-rays, MRIs, CAT scans. The vets can't find anything. No tumor, no cancer, no cysts, no fractures, nothing.
What they can find is a lot of inflammation. That's it. Just general inflammation. So she has tried steroids. She has tried medications.
I asked her if she tried acupuncture because it can usually help paralysis a lot with animals. She said we tried it a couple times, didn't do anything.
She got a wheelchair made for this dog which was like $1,200. And so he just rolls around in a wheelchair that they have to push him. He's completely paralyzed but happy and living.
She got a second vet for a second opinion about four months ago before she met me.
And they suggested red light laser therapy because that's what's been used with vets since the 70s. It's just laser treatment.
And so she's like, all right. So they started doing just laser treatment on the neck 30 minutes, three times a week.
Now this is going to give you the answer of why my blankets are needed. They were charging her $200 a session for 30 minutes only on the neck three times a week.
That's $1,200 every two weeks. I don't know anybody that can afford that.
And she said it was the only thing that she was starting to see differences. His paws were starting to come out straight.
They were starting to move and he was starting to be able to like scoot himself around a little bit.
But she only did a month's worth of treatment because she couldn't afford any after that.
And Divine Quantum Entanglements, one of our quantum community members, met her randomly on the beach in Massachusetts and told her all about me and we connected.
And so she finally got my blanket last week. She's only been using it for four days.
And she texted me yesterday and she's like, he's walking now. Not far, not far.
I didn't even think it was going to happen that quick. Honestly, like I was like, probably going to like a month maybe.
But if we make this paralyzed dog walk again, like it is game over for the company.
But she texted me yesterday. I'm still waiting for like pictures and videos and stuff.
And we're still going to go a full probably 60 days on her case. But yeah, he's standing out of his wheelchair and he took a couple of steps.
That's crazy. Four days? Yeah. Oh my God.
So first of all, that lady was charging her for flipping a red light laser switch on.
But here you just get it. And that just is more economical. Wow. Oh my gosh.
Yeah. So I wasn't expecting how quick these cases were at all.
And yeah, it's surprising that they're more sensitive and that the benefits, the healing comes in quicker.
I don't know how a horse's whole skull like gets healed in 14 days.
I'm just taking a back by the speed just by red light therapy alone. You know? Yeah.
Yeah. You have a lot of potential. A lot of potential reach.
And this coincides. So this is I just want to tie in what you said before because I didn't forget.
Yes, you're just trying to get in the door. This isn't the full solution.
Ideally, they get everything. You know, they have appropriate lights at the appropriate times or appropriate lack of light, etc.
When you said like stall rest, it's just like indoors, right?
Yeah. Horses live like in a stall, like a box, like 10 by 10, 12 by 12 is the usual size for.
And there's no sunlight coming in usually if filtered glass.
It depends on how the barn is built. Now, most barns are open. They're not enclosed all the way.
But even the way they're built, it's very shadowy or dark.
You don't have a lot of like open stall systems where the sun is coming right in because they've always believed, you know, sun is hot, sun is bad.
There's like a lot of light in there. There's like a lot of light in there.
So it has a roof and so they're still getting light in basically.
It's just like us knowing about like opening your window at least nothing.
But it's not them sitting underneath the direct sun like horses need in the research that's been done, which is not a ton yet.
Horses need about eight hours a day of straight sunlight on their body to produce the correct amount of vitamin D they need for their body.
Most of our pets get what 20 minutes turned out for their walk and potty break.
Maybe 40 minutes, you know, twice a day.
And that's usually early morning and late at night, like not during the UV times during the day.
So we have a lot to teach. We have a lot to share.
But that just makes so much sense why they're getting sick. They're not building their vitamin D levels at all.
There's a lot of juice to squeeze from this lime.
This is the tip of the iceberg because you were saying this is not an end all be all panacea type of thing.
However, we have extraordinary case studies.
Yeah.
Kind of you got cool things to share on both sides.
But yeah, you phrased it in the sense I don't want to just make a buck off you even if the core benefits and healing is phenomenal.
This is just introducing you to a whole new lifestyle in general that's impactful for both your pet and you.
And at the same time, here's amazing results potentially.
Is that the norm or are these just on the crazier end of the spectrum?
In the animal industry?
In the animal industry, which is what you've seen?
Well, you know that. Us being all about light is kind of on the extreme side.
I mean, the first things people are going to ask you about are skin cancer and the sun is bad for you.
Or I can't get up at six o'clock in the morning or I can't let my dog out at this certain time.
And it's just lifestyle changes.
It's besides the sad part of not seeing people curious enough.
It's really sad that we have now been brainwashed or institutionalized or whatever to not put ourselves first and to not put our health first.
Like Jack says, if you don't have health, you don't have wealth.
If you can't walk around the block with your dog and enjoy the sunshine or you can't run around your kids or your grandkids, what good is a million dollars in the bank?
So I know that we're still going to have some battles and some different things to go through of teaching this information.
But yeah, at the end of the day, I'll love it if they buy my blankets.
And I know it's going to be successful. I've already been shown the vision.
But at the end of the day, I'm still going to tell people like go outside. It's free. Put your feet on the ground.
Put your paws on the ground. Like put your hooves on the ground. Like it's free.
And we're always going to push that message above and beyond any of it.
But there's plenty of a market for the blankets to be able to help animals suffering now.
And then even animals that maybe aren't suffering, but they want to have like optimal performance.
So yeah, definitely send us an update on that dog two weeks, two months from now.
Well, yeah, it's going to be the biggest testimonial ever.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm super pumped. Do you want to show us?
Yeah, I was going to I was just going to ask if you'd like to see it.
I brought over my extra small so it'll try to fit in the computer screen.
So this is what the blanket looks like. This is our cool little logo with red and purple.
So those are the two wavelengths. Well, actually, red and infrared, obviously, will actually provide five wavelengths and all of our blankets,
which will still put us in even more of a niche because most red light products on the market for both human and the stuff that does exist for animals already only has two wavelengths.
So we're seeing a more full spectrum effect, which actually comes from very old light therapy research from Russia, from Sina Karoo.
We made it wireless. So this is just where you charge your lithium battery. So that way, number one, safety issues.
You don't have a wire attached to a moving animal, as well as these will be completely non native EMF. There will be absolutely no electromagnetic electromagnetic fields to cause inflammation to the body either.
Every single blanket will come with a belly band. This one's small for a small dog.
But the horse blankets and the other size dog blankets have a belly band as well. So that's for the ventral line of the body.
That comes from all my years of being a body worker because nobody pays attention to the ventral line, which your lungs are there, your organs are there, your abdominal muscles are there.
And with animals, you'll have castration scars for horses, spay and neuter for dogs and cats. They'll have C-section scars, abdominal bloating scars.
And you want to be able to reach the microbiome with the red light. So we'll be the only therapeutic blanket in general in the animal industry that will have a belly band. So that's kind of cool.
I'll go ahead and turn it on.
Whoa, there the lights that you can see are red light wavelengths. The ones you can't see are the near infrared. I've already worked out all the science that all they're going to need is one session once a day, 15 minutes, and they're getting the correct dosage of like 10 to 20 joules per centimeter squared.
You know, a lot of times we'll see in red light therapy, especially nowadays, so many companies are jumping on the bandwagon to make money.
And we have this mindset in America, other places too, but in the United States, like more power and most strong and powerful is like the best.
That's not necessarily the case, especially for animals. So they are very sensitive. They don't need super high powered modalities on them. So these are all low level LEDs and intensities.
If I do have a specific case like the paralyzed dog or an injury, I may bump up that dosage to twice a day for just a small amount of time and then break them back down to a maintenance dosage.
But those will be very specific cases and we'll add all of that into our education.
The blanket also helps. I think I mentioned this before, but like almost all of the research that's on red light therapy, it's actually done with contact methods. So actually with the lights like on the sand.
Instead of, you know, kind of what the panels are and stuff that we're using now. So it's actually shown to be where you can get your best penetration and optimal absorption.
And for animals, especially they have the layer of fur that you're trying to get through. So there's extra reflection issues and extra absorption issues.
If it's some type of like panel or something that you have to hold away from the animal, you're not going to get actually much of a therapeutic dosage at all.
So the contact method with using a blanket is going to be much better preferred.
Yeah, I knew of contact versus non-contact, but the nuance is definitely important for animals because us humans, we don't have as much hair, obviously.
And there's just a lot of things that you want to consider. So contact, non-native EMF. What more can you ask for? Titrated? Yeah, well done.
And I'm sure all the other nuances will come on your website or they can contact you for it because I'm sure a lot of people will be tempted to do it for 30 minutes or something.
So just cautionary on that. But wow, that's a there's a lot of I see the method to your madness.
There's a lot of things going on and second order, third order things from it. I love it.
Thank you. Yeah, it's been my baby. It's been a wild ride so far and there's more to come, which I'm super pumped for.
So yeah, we're going to be lighting the way to the animal wellness is one of our slogans.
I'm sure it's a crazy work in a full time job and starting a whole company and being a presence on social media all at once.
But you'll manifest the highest version of it. Yeah, where everything is aligned.
But on that note, I didn't I just wanted to save this part for last.
You are very outspoken about spiritual nature of reality and not everyone is in this community.
And, you know, I just wanted to ask you, you mentioned you're you grew up in a religious religious household and you stayed away.
You couldn't find your faith for a little bit. You came back to it.
Can you tell me about your journey there? Why you lost your faith?
What kind of faith it was and how did quantum biology kind of revitalize it?
And why do you think it's even important to have that faith in general?
Oh, man, lots of questions.
I'm going to answer the last one first, because I think if you don't have faith in anything, then it's very hard to have purpose.
Because so my favorite question that I like to ask new people coming into my life, whether it's like a family member or a friend or like maybe a boyfriend or something.
I like to ask them why they think we're here as human beings.
And there's no right or wrong. I'm just curious because it gives me a lot of feedback of like how the person thinks or if they've even thought about it at all.
Some people are like, oh, I don't know. I don't know about it. Right.
And so I like that question. My answer to it is we're here to love and be loved.
And I know that sounds like, oh, so romantic and woo woo.
I don't even mean it in like the romanticizing part of like we have to have a partner and we have to have that boyfriend, girlfriend or husband and wife type of love.
That's good if we can find that in this lifetime, too.
It can even be your job. You know, like I love my job. Both of them now.
But I love what I do and I have a lot of faith in what I do because I'm helping something. I feel very purposeful.
I feel very mission driven. And so that love is there for what I do for a living, which is fantastic because it doesn't feel like work most days.
But, you know, a lot of people will have that being family oriented or have a ton of friends or traveling and seeing the world.
They have a love for wonderlust, you know.
So there's some type of love that's involved that that's our highest energy source.
And so when we have that present, then that faith kind of almost comes naturally because we end up having faith in the plane that's going to get us to our next trip or the book bag, you know,
or the backpack carrier that you're backpacking with to the countryside that's going to take you on your way.
And so that's the answer to the first question. So you have to have that faith, I think, to be able to have like some type of purpose or mission in life to know why you're here.
We all have a mission and a journey that we came here for that we're experiencing.
And I think a lot of people are lost nowadays by not having that.
And I think in our modern world, we've been told you either have to go to church and or school to find that.
And hey, I went to college twice, so I fell for it twice. And I also was raised, you know, super, super religious.
And so I had a lot of those rules and regulations with not a lot of understanding or reasoning behind them.
Luckily, I have been curious, so I was always kind of questioning things.
The faith part of me got lost in those early teenage 20 years because I just didn't believe what I had been told through the church and the Bible and through my father at the time.
I always knew there was something greater, but I didn't have a good connection to it.
Like, I didn't pray a lot. I didn't know about meditation because, of course, any of that kind of stuff was seen as like evil when I was here.
And so I just didn't have a strong connection. And every time I went to a church, like inside the building of a church, I felt suffocated, literally.
Like I had to leave. And I still kind of have that. And so I just but I just don't I don't resonate with that anymore.
And so it's not like I turned into like Satan's child or anything.
I just turned into a life of like, OK, I've got it on my own. Like I'm on my own. I'm independent. I'll figure it out.
And I did. But looking back now, I was always taken care of. Like, knock on wood, like my life has been pretty good.
You know, I haven't had a ton of tragedy. I haven't had a ton of trauma.
We all have our things, but it's been taken care of in a way.
And so when I started learning about quantum entanglement and this quantum lifestyle and then things just kind of started happening and I realized I had some of that happen in my past,
but I wasn't as connected to like really be aware and notice. Right.
Before I learned about quantum, I have been a practicing yogi for like 20 years.
So I have learned about like the connection with your breath, connection with movement. I feel the connection with nature.
I always felt the best connection to something greater when I was outside doing something, riding horses or hiking.
I love hiking, being in water. But I never knew the answers. Why?
And so when we get into the quantum biology, which is why I think even when Jack gets asked these questions about like spirituality and esoteric, esoteric things and energy,
I know that he gives credit that it exists. I don't think he gives it enough validity because he still likes to go to the logic part of well, but this is why, you know, like when you feel these things, you can tap in like this is logistically and like literally like why.
And I get it. And I love his answers for that because I'm like, oh, all right, cool. Thank you. You know, but there's still a form of like magic to it.
I can't even tell you some of the things that have happened with this business now living the life that I'm living with more of an open heart, not so much with this.
And that came from changing my light life. And I don't have a particular like time and space, except for maybe like when the inception of this blanket came into my brain.
It was literally just sitting under the sun at the beach. Like I wasn't with anybody else. Nobody was talking to me. I wasn't even thinking about animals. Like I was on vacation. I wasn't thinking about work.
That was maybe my biggest first moment of like, where, where did that come from? You know, and I just continued down the path and more magic has happened for that business.
But magic has even happened just in my own personal life of faith. And I will admit I have a very good friend who is a spiritual medium.
And so she's been like that from the day she was born. She sees ghosts and dead spirits and guides and fairies, all the things, all the magical things she sees.
And I actually, when I was in Tulum on that trip, I did a breathwork session for the first time. I'd never done that before. And you're completely sober. You know, you're on no nootropic. You're on no drugs. You're on nothing.
And I had three guides come to me. And one was a, I've never shared this story actually, one in public. One was a really large, huge white winged horse, almost kind of like the horse that you see in the one, I think it's Paramount or Trimount.
It looks very much like this. Like it was just this huge presence of this white horse with wings. And of course, as a horse lover, I was just enamored. And I thought it was an angel, you know, and I just took it all in. I also had like a native Indian shaman kind of guy come to me.
And then I had like an Indian woman like from India come to me while I was doing breathwork. And they were just visions. There wasn't a ton of words. It was just these experiences, things I was seeing like right there to do my third eye. My eyes were closed.
And it was very powerful. Breathwork is incredibly powerful. Like I searched them out now. They're so much fun. I've almost like levitated in one. Like it was the wildest thing. They're great. You have not done one. I highly recommend it.
But when I met my friend a couple months later, she had found out about what I was teaching with quantum. So it was also this magic quantum entanglement. She was having health issues.
She wanted to know more of what I was talking about, and I wanted to know more of what she was talking about. And so we met for dinner one night just to get to know each other. And we talk and chat and all these things. I tell her all about quantum.
And she's just like blown away and wants to know more. And she's like, OK, she's like, well, look, you know, you helped me out so much. Like, let me give you a free small reading.
I was like, OK. And I was like, well, I've never done that before. And she's like, well, usually ask questions. What would you like to know? And I was like, I don't know. I was like, well, is anything here? Anybody here that wants to talk to me? And we were outside on a patio.
And there was this big, huge parking lot behind me. And she's like, well, Jackie, she's like, there's a huge ass white horse behind you. I could not told her my story at all. She didn't know anything.
And then that's when I knew she was real. That's when I knew the horse was real and the experience was real. I had seen that. And if you think about the quantum entanglement stuff, that's all just magnetism, right? Manifesting itself.
And then Kenford, from this point forward, which I have a necklace right now that has a horse with wings on it that I wear every day.
Every time I travel somewhere, even when I was just in China, a billboard had a big white horse on it with wings. Every time I travel somewhere, a white horse shows up. It might be a painting on a wall. It might be a sign.
It might be a movie clip or something really quick, but it shows up every single time. And so instead of having to revert back to my childhood where like it has to look like God, it has to come through your prayer on Sunday morning in a church at 9 a.m.
I know that that is the divine right there telling me like, hey, I'm here. I got you. I got you. You know? And I mean, I've met my grandmother now and like I've talked to all kinds of people in my life.
And it's my faith got stronger because my brain was more open to be there. My heart was more open to be there coming through the quantum life.
But now going through some of the experience I've had too, I now realize like I have a whole team up there. It's not just like one person, you know, that I'm answering to.
I have a whole team up there that's looking out for me and is helping me. And at the same time, learning through quantum health, we are also all connected. So I'm connected to you. You're connected to me.
I'm connected to Meredith. We're connected to Meredith. And so we're connected to every human being that's on this planet Earth right now.
And I like to try to think of that energy as well as what's helping you build what you're building in your life, whatever that might be, your family or your partner or your job.
And that has just strengthened my faith so much of knowing like I'm taking care of. And all I have to do is just keep like thinking about the vision of what I want and that I already have it.
And then that timeline is actually quantum being created in the future. Like I've seen it. It's been it has given me those images. We're getting all wooed for the end of this podcast.
So the best for last. Yeah, it's just so powerful and so magical and so fun. Like it makes life so much more fun than what I remember of everything being brought up in the church as a kid or in school.
You know, like all the rules and the regulations. Like it just this is way better. And this is what I prefer. And it hasn't let me down once. So that's that's how I got to where I am.
I got the cherry on top. Thank you for letting me hear that. That was wonderful. I got chills at the horse part.
That's a crazy connection who she could have said anything, but she specifically said a big ass white.
Yeah, and the the real chill factor. So sometimes she gets names. I didn't get any vocals when I saw the horse the first time. And she said, yeah, her name is Carly. And she's like, you know, Jackie, when I get names, I usually tell the people to like go look them up at some point.
So, of course, as soon as I got home, I'm like, Googling Carly. And it means literally gift from God. Oh, my God. Yeah. In what language?
I spelt it K.H.A.R.L.I. Because just when she said Carly, I was like, okay, that's kind of like Carly here, but probably. So it's Arabic Carly.
Oh, I'm gonna have to look that up. Yeah, because I learned Arabic like two years ago. So that's really random that an Arabic word gave you that symbol. And yeah, that's your I get those confused.
But if you type in meaning of Carly, K.H.A.R.L.I., it'll say it might be Hindu. I always get this confused, but it's one of the other. Yeah, yeah. That's your symbol for divine presence. Yeah. With you.
And it's different for everybody. And it makes sense, given your life, your work, what you feel drawn and purpose for. Wow. Perfect way to wrap the episode up. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. Is there any final thoughts that you'd like to share on the podcast?
I'll just ask all of your followers to do the exact same thing that I ask everybody that hears me talk. Just go and share this message. If you got any little blip of anything for me. Sunrise is the most important thing that will bring you so much joy and happiness.
Like you become addicted to it. The sunrise is wonderful. And then to make your nights dark and just share that message with as many people as you can. Wonderful. All right, Jackie. It's been a blast having you on.
Thank you for having me, Kenford. I really appreciate it. I can't wait to hear this and share it when it comes out. Thank you so much. And I hope, as with all my quantum members, I hope that I get to meet you in real life at some point in time.
Oh, yeah. I'm trying to meet all y'all. When I get out of the military, it's over.
We're going to manifest it. Actually, there's a chance. Sometimes I come up to Kentucky every now and then and I visit my relatives in Cincinnati. So if I make it up there, I'll definitely reach out to you and see if you're around.
Let me know for sure. And then maybe we'll film an in-person podcast. Yes, that would be so much fun. Yes, absolutely. I'm down. Wonderful.
Okay, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in and I'll see you guys back next time on the Guiding Lighthouse podcast. Cheers, everybody.