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Okay, I'm ready. Let's do this. All right. So Carrie, welcome to the show.

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Thanks for having me, Kenford. I'm excited.

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So I'm very thankful for you, first of all, because this was, you were the first person

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I ever emailed, you know, from the moment this sprouted as like an idea to putting it into action.

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Like you were the first person I reached out to. I am honored. That's really cool.

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Yeah. Yeah. And then to get that yes, you know, it's just, it's a game changer because you need,

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to get that yes makes you like, oh, I can do it because someone accepted the invitation.

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I can get this ball rolling. And then once that happened, everything just kind of fell into place

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and I've filmed five, six episodes now. And so it was all because of that one permission slip from

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you. So I just want to... That's a little confidence booster right there.

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Oh gosh. No, I'm honored. This is so cool because I think that, you know, the knowledge that you

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have and just how you've interacted in my private community, it's just going to be fun to talk to

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someone like you. So I'm really excited. We're going to get into some very interesting things

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today because there's a, I like to connect communities. There's the quantum biology

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community. There's a spiritual community. And today I want to focus on the quantum biology

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community. And you've said this in a couple of your Instagram posts. So I think for the three

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legged stool in this community, right? Light, water, magnetism, very important, foundational,

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but there's something that you've brought up a couple of times that I haven't seen you talk

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about much in detail. And that is love, right? And in my opinion, if you have that three legged

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stool, I think love is like the umbrella that encompasses it all. And so you put up a quote by

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Heisenberg, if I can like read it right now for the listener. It is the first gulp from the glass

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of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass, God is waiting for

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you. Now I don't want to, you know, ideology, you can throw that stuff out, but I want to point to,

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I want to have you introduce yourself in a way like you, the way you grew up. I don't know if

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you were religious when you grew up or you had something, but I can imagine that you are very,

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you are still very scientific in your process, but there was some point along your journey where

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you realized there's something more than just the sciences. There's something truly amazing driving

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all this. And then it just clicked for you. And then you somehow realized love is so powerful,

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as foundational as the three legged stool we talk about. And so if the body is like the radio,

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our consciousness, who we are as people, and we're like the radio station. And so it's two

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components that we need to hone. And if we're just focusing on our body, but we're kind of loveless

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in our life, then it kind of makes the whole thing, not pointless, but you cap yourself quite a bit.

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So that's like the subject I want to get into. I think it'd be fascinating to get in with you. So

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why don't you go ahead and provide some context and add the little seasoning of

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what your beliefs were and how it transitioned from science into eventually realizing

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something behind it.

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Awesome. I love it. So I was raised in a religious environment, very religious family.

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And what I want to call it an open minded religious family in terms of there was nothing ever really

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dogmatic about it, but we did go to church. I grew up believing in God, I still believe in God.

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My opinion in terms of what we can call God has definitely expanded. And yeah, I appreciate that

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because it gave me a background as I was sorting through science to kind of like, you know, just

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another aspect of my thoughts in terms of, okay, what is this saying about God or creation or,

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you know, an all encompassing energy, you know, a divine intelligence. And when I was first in

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college, my very first science class was genetics. And we read a bunch of books about it. And so

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I read a bunch of books by Richard Dawkins, you know, Climbing Mountain Probable, basically

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books that were just that, you know, basically said if you believe in God and science, you're

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stupid. It's my general summary, you know, there. And so I was, you know, I went to my genetics

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teacher, my genetics professor, and I said, okay, why does this have to be mutually exclusive? Why

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can't these two really, you know, ping off of each other? And why can't, why do we have to exclude

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one in order to, you know, believe in the other? And that's the attitude that I had all throughout,

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even though I was potentially being taught that science was it, right? And, you know, there was

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no need to believe in God or in a greater energy than us. I never stopped, right? And I, as I was

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going deeper and deeper into science, as I'm certain you have maybe recognized as well, is that

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when you look at the complexities of life, and then you wrap your brain around the fractal nature

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of everything, and you see this self-similar repeating patterns at all scales, you're just

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like, whoa. And that's where it was just like this, there has to be an intelligent energy influencing

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all of this, right? That does not happen by chance. So I really started to, I really stopped thinking

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along the lines of, oh, you know, random mutation evolution versus there isn't influencing energy

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that the body is interacting with and all life is interacting with at all times to help organize the

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body into a state of what I call coherence. And that's, you know, and once I realized that, that

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organizing energy, and this really, the game changer here for me was actually being asked on

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a podcast by a woman who had had a near-death experience. And I heard her near-death experience

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first, you know, she wanted me to make sure I resonated with, you know, being on the podcast.

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And she described going into the afterlife as the feeling of the most intense but beautiful light

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and love ever. It was just a feeling that she couldn't describe. There were no words to describe

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that intensity of light and love. And then my buddy, Corey, you got to interview Corey, right?

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Corey Gasvini, who back in the day when we were teaching some quantum biology courses together,

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he said, you got to read this series of books. And it's basically the law of one.

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And that's where they continually referred to that same energy as light, love, and love, light. And

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I'm just like, oh gosh, that's a missing factor. Love really is all-encompassing. And what then was

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ignored in quantum physics in the early 20th century was this ether that used to be called

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the luminiferous ether, right? This light-giving source energy. And so all that really helped me

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connect some thoughts to be like, yeah, that's a huge missing piece with all of this. And so

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I was like, oh, I'm going to do this. And if we're all connected through this light and love,

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then why do we spread hate? That really made me aware of who I wanted to interact with,

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how I wanted to live my life, how I wanted to have people come into my community, right?

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Like the space I've been trying to create. And those are all the dots that connected for me.

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So through near-death experiences, and then Corey introduced you to those books.

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I mean, I'd always believed in God, but the idea of calling God light and love, and of people

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having that experience of returning to source energy, returning to God, going to heaven,

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however you want to call it, as also being light and love, it made so much sense to me that there

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was an organizing force full of love in this world, in this universe. And if we ignore that,

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we're missing a huge piece in the same way that when quantum physics ignored the ether,

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because they didn't want to account for it in their calculations and in their equations,

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we set quantum physics research back 100 years.

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So in your point of view, how does love fit into the equation of quantum biology? Because

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we definitely put the spotlight on the three-legged stool, right? But I'm sure as you go along,

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you're going to emphasize it more and more as a foundational thing. So let's say I live in the

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Yucatan. I drink deuterium-depleted water. I get sun. I do everything perfectly, but I'm like a bit

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of an asshole in my day-to-day life. I'm sure that in and of itself would cause distortions in my body,

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would mess up my coherence. Because if a quantum biology listener or someone who's focused on just

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the physical aspects of health, they're going to think, oh, it's just my thoughts and emotions.

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That doesn't really influence it, especially if I'm doing all this right. So could you provide

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a link, how that non-physical stuff translates physically to where it just caps us?

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Yeah. So the link is something that's really not talked about a ton in our emerging quantum

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biology circles, which is the biofield. And the biofield as this torus of this toroidal flow of

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energy that expands outside of our physical bodies and then flows back into us. And the coherence

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and the basically information and energy that's in our biofield that flows back into us can either

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organize the body. It's neg entropy, if you will, reducing chaos, or it can promote entropy and

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promote chaos. So one of the biggest contributing influences to that biofield is our heart and our

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heart's magnetic field. And that magnetic field is generated both, yes, by the actual electrical

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conductivity of the heart. And so for those who aren't aware, whenever electricity is flowing,

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magnetic fields are created. But what the HeartMath Institute, I think, has done a very,

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very amazing job at educating us in as well is that we can influence the strength, the size,

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the coherent energy in our heart's biofield, our heart's magnetic field with emotions. And so if

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we're living in fear or hate or anger or, you know, basically very destructive emotions all

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the time, that energy field and those vibrations circulate back into us. And it influences

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everything from gene expression to the state of our cell membranes. I mean, Bruce Lipton, right,

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Biology of Belief. It's been around for a lot. I think I read that book maybe 20 years ago, right?

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Candice Pert, Molecules of Emotion, where the emotions that we're feeling actually crystallize

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into chemistry in our bodies. And so, you know, when we look at it that way, it makes sense that

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what I'm feeling, what I'm thinking, the energy that I am putting out is the energy that legitimately

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is coming back to me. Like, that's what that means. The energy you put out comes back to you

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because it circulates back into you. And then it can either help to create health and be a vibrant,

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vital body, or it can slowly start to deteriorate things and create chaos all the way at that tiny,

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tiny level of the mitochondria, where then, you know, that's where really the start of a lot of

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dysfunction can happen. Yeah, if you think of the body as hardware and software, your consciousness

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being software, the software, in this case, in the body, influences the hardware because it's just

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one indivisible unit. And so, you ought to be cognizant of how you are in your day-to-day life,

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you know, do everything out of service, out of compassion. I know you mentioned this a few times.

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It all sounds woo, but in this episode, I'm trying to put the practical and the science into woo,

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because I think these days people are allergic to that word. You kind of have to like walk them

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through it like, hey, this is a very practical thing. And the law of one talks a lot about

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polarity as a function of the universe. And there's only two, right? Positive and negative,

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like a magnet. And so, it's nothing like touchy-feely, soft. No, it's just which function

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are you choosing and which are you embodying in the world you walk in? So, I'm curious how

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you would tell someone who thinks, oh, this is woo. How would you walk someone from woo to,

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you know, this is practical, this is real, this is logical, you know?

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Well, I mean, there's... I think the way that people really have to get into this is to recognize

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that there is this field of energy around us, right? That's the first hurdle I think a lot

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of people have to get over, is that there is this basically... It's almost like a plasma, right?

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Eileen McCusick has done a great job, really. And a couple of other researchers, Beverly Rubik,

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right? Have done a great job in kind of starting to characterize this field and this flow of energy

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around us. And the other thing, beyond kind of acknowledging what our modern language is

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calling the biofield, we also have to give credence where it's due because pretty much

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every ancient culture understood some energy outside of the physical body that informed

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the physical body, right? Whether it's the aura, whether it's the etheric body, right?

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It's been called a lot of different names, but it's nothing new, right? This has been around

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for a long time. And the more I go into studying quantum physics, the more in awe I am of the

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ancient wisdom that's always been around, right? And we just kind of put it to the side. And at

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some point in time, we called it woo because we didn't have the science to describe it.

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And now we're starting to get the science that can describe it. And it just, again, it gives me... It

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just puts me more and more at awe at what was really truly some amazing knowledge so long ago.

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So we have to recognize that there is a field of energy outside of the body that influences

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and informs the physical body. And if you can make that hurdle, then you have to ask yourself

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and go into, well, what can either strengthen that energy field and what can distort that

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energy field? And so more and more is coming out about that as well. I mean, for example,

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I just heard Lloyd Burrell, who's big into EMFs. And this is funny too. This is just a little segue,

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right? Because I feel like those of us who are studying the body and from this more quantum

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space, whether it's how non-native EMFs affect us or whether it's what's happening with electron

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flow and mitochondria, I mean, to see Lloyd's journey from shield yourself from mitigate,

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mitigate, mitigate, not native EMFs to understanding the biofield and harmonizing energy.

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I mean, he's talking about that more and more. I feel like this is where a lot of us come to.

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It's like, wait a second. We've been focusing so much on the physical body and ignoring this

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field around us. So it's really fun to see other clinicians or researchers or influencers,

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whatever you want to call it, getting into this same space. And I think it's only going to

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continue to make this more mainstream. But that being said, he was talking about how some of Dr.

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Rubik's research showed that even holding a cell phone in our hand, let alone when that cell phone

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goes off, how it actually creates distortion waves in the biofield, it creates like a fuzzy signal

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in the biofield, meaning we're creating a chaotic vibration, a chaotic energy field that then is

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flowing back through us. Other things that we know from like Eileen McCusick's work that can be

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distortions in the biofield are trapped emotions or suppressed emotions or traumas. They actually,

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she's noticed that they can actually have different sounds. So her modality of measuring

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these things is through tuning forks. And I've had several clients with amazing responses when she

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can actually bring emotions back into resonance. And so that's the whole thing. What is this

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resonant quality? What is the vibrational quality of your biofield? And so what are you circling

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back through you? And so now we know that stuck emotions and past traumas can affect the

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can affect it negatively. We know that non-native electromagnetic fields can. So imagine the average

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person who has a cell phone in their pocket at all times and now AirPods in all the time.

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It's just a very distorted chaotic wave that comes back in. And there's other things as well. But so

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that our hearts emotions, as I said, like what we're physically feeling inside of us affects it also

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in terms of being able to create more of a coherent resonance versus not. And I truly believe that

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that's where homeopathy also lies is homeopathy's ability to basically tune one's signature vibration

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back to the coherent signal that it's designed to receive. And so, I mean, that's where someone has

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to wrap their brain around is they have to get into the get out of the physical body and into the

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fact that we're being our physical body is being formed. Yes, by our environment. Yes, by our light.

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Yes, by earth's electrons and the magnetic field of the earth, all of those things. But we also

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have this this actual physical field around us at all times that's also being informed, or it contains

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energy that's informing our physical bodies. And that's my segue into okay, so there's this

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energy that's non physical that informs our body and shapes our body. But it has to translate it

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somehow. And I'm pretty sure that the way it translated is through water. Is that correct? So

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that's been pretty much established. But I think like it's a misnomer. Maybe it's a more,

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more like scientifically accurate to say that it receives information and holds information.

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And so how so how does the the energy then affect the water in my body? So if I'm thinking,

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loving thoughts, and I'm being a genuine person in my day to day life, that's creating coherence

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in my, my water, my easy water, maybe you can go into like, the sounds the the semantics of it.

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I'm sure you can take this into a lot of directions. But yeah, yeah.

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For sure. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Well, you know, I mean, the the foundational knowledge that one

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needs with this is the fact that, yes, this can happen with water in a glass as well. It's been

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proven, right? Water in a test tube, water in a Petri dish, all of those things can our antenna,

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like water acts as an antenna. And then the water in our body, so I think is really, really a strong

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antenna. And there's a reason that water surrounds every single solid surface in the body. So

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everything that we would call our biological surfaces in our body is surrounded by water,

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no two physical surfaces really ever touch except water. And so, so that water plays a key role.

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zone. But what that water is, is when when that when liquid water is produced in the body. So when

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what we would consider water in its in its swirling form in a glass, right, it's really fluid form,

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and like we would see in a glass, that water is produced all throughout our bodies all the time.

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But when it comes into contact with a biological surface, it automatically organizes itself into a

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lattice. And this lattice has been termed exclusion zone water by Dr. Jerry Pollock. And but what what's

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important to know about this lattice is all of a sudden, the H's and the O's organize themselves

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into a very organized structured state, a repeating pattern, a honeycomb linkage lattice, that's, you

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know, it's a very good. It's a very good thought as to what that exclusion zone could be. I don't

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know if it's it's perfect. But I think that's a very good indication that Dr. Pollock has come

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up with. But anytime you structure something into a lattice, it takes on properties of a crystal.

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And that crystal then because it's not our bodies aren't hard, right, we're still soft creatures,

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it's actually a liquid crystal. And those liquid crystals have some amazing properties as well.

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And so liquid crystals are really well known as, you know, from LCD display technology, right. So

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liquid crystals actually can transform light. But liquid crystals can also be receivers of energy

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information, they can store energy, they can store information, they can store data. And so think

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about this, the water inside of us is a receiver for energy and data. And it's being informed,

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just as just as we have like little tuning radios, you know, antenna inside a radio to tune to

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different radio stations with invisible energy around us, right there. I don't see radio waves,

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right? Anyone see radio waves that you could get a radio out right now and tune it to a station.

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And that's all of a sudden information comes through. Same thing with our body, as that bio

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field cycles back through us, we're creating the water is picking up the energy and the information

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embedded in it. And we things can change what changes the DNA can physically change because DNA

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is surrounded by water. So you could actually get unfolding and, you know, influencing things

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like transcription, right of the DNA, it can influence so you're influencing gene expression,

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you're influencing protein folding. And so, you know, even you can put a protein in an

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optimum configuration. And when that protein has that configuration, things in the body work on

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vibration on resonance, right? That resonance now all this on the protein that was not in the

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correct configuration takes the right shape as it vibrates that in that shape. That's a

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signature resonance that then informs all the other receivers of that specific frequency in the

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body. That's how hormones work. That's how enzymes work. It's not this lock and key docking. It's

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taking on the correct shape and then being able to vibrate the correct tune, if you will. And so,

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basically what's happening is as we provide coherent energy and information to the body,

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everything comes into tune. Everything starts to communicate better as opposed to if we don't do

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that, then or and we have that chaotic information, then yeah, okay, I might have a hormone that's

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produced, but the hormone itself is not emitting the correct frequency because the shape is

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misconfigured or the receptor that relies on the water to take on the correct shape

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is not configured correctly. And so communication is lacking. And so you can imagine that what

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happens to the body when it can't communicate accurately. So yes, there's stuff happening in

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the physical body, but it's being informed by the energy that comes into the body and that the water

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is receiving that and literally changing the shapes of things in response to it to be better

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conduct semiconductors of electrons to be to influence gene expression. So many key, key things

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that can happen with that, which sounds complex, but at the same time, it's so simple, right?

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We're, we're emitting and also in our environment, receiving storing energy in this field that then

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just informs the body about what's going on and re re rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. It's

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happening all the time. And so yes, can we influence the biofield itself without touching

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the physical body to improve health? We can. And that's been shown time and time again,

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it with a lot of different modalities. Um, and so, you know, it's, it's, if it was just about my

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physical body, then things like Eileen's work tuning biofield tuning wouldn't be possible.

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And the amazing things I've seen, like I've said, it's just, uh, you have to open your,

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you have to have to open your brain up to the fact that it's a, it's a huge piece of the puzzle

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that's missing these days.

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So yeah, it's, it's basically materialism. You know, the atom is the, the primordial reality,

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but what I like about the ether model is that it takes, uh, this infinite substance, this essence,

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not which I, to bring it back to what you said in the beginning, light, love, love, light.

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The ether is like love. It's an, in its essence, you know, the backdrop, which everything takes

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place. And then light is that manifestation to where it just vortexes into, I don't know,

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a proton where it manifests because love can't work by itself. It needs to express in 3d time

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space to, to feel what it's like. Right. And so these two work together. One is the essence

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and the other is the manifestation love, light, light, love. And so that's why I love the fact

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that you bring the ether back because it does complete this whole physics model.

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I need a t-shirt, right? Bring the ether back.

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Yeah. Want some physics? You know, it's really cool, but it's very atom centric. You could say

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light centric manifestation centric, but there's a, there's an essence, you know, all that

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manifestation is coming from some context that we have no idea about. And so how has the ether

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completely completed the physics for you, you know, your model of reality, how it shapes

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you viewing the human body is like a fractal down from the universe itself.

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Well, you know, first and foremost, um, it, it, it made no sense to me how light had no medium

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through which it traveled, right? It was like, wait a second. That's just, that doesn't make

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no sense. Sound needs a medium water for you guys to be like, how is it that light can just boost?

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There you go. And so, um, for a while there, you know, as I was starting to dive into quantum

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physics and quantum biology, it just, I just was bothered by that. And then I came across,

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you know, the Mickelson Morley experiment. I was like, Oh, the ether. Sure. So for those people

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don't know the Mickelson Morley experiment was basically an experiment done probably in the

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late 1800s, maybe early 1900s that, um, that quote unquote debunked the ether because they

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couldn't essentially measure the influence of the ether in the, in their particular experiment.

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Now that's where I think from then, from then on, I think science went awry because we assumed that

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we had to be able to measure it in order to be able to prove that it's true. And it's in actuality,

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we just, we don't have anywhere near the measuring devices we need, right? To be able to be able to

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quote unquote, prove these things. So, so science became very measurement minded and then quantum

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physics ignored the ether. Um, and so it just bothers them. As soon as I kind of brought back

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the ether into the equation, I said, Oh, of course, right. Light can't just appear from nowhere.

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Light has to like exactly like you said, it has to manifest. And I'm of the opinion too. I, I don't,

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I don't know if you, I don't know if you're going to want to interview Ken Wheeler at all. I would

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love to. Yeah, I bet you would. But like that's where all of what Ken Wheeler was, would talk

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about makes sense too. It's that like, you know, light is basically just a disturbance of the ether,

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a manifestation of the ether itself. And so that's when I recognize that, Oh, what was around me and

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what is made up of me and what is quote unquote empty space inside of me is actually substance,

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right? It's this primordial substance, if you will. Right. Um, and, and then as all of a sudden,

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I recognize it has fluid dynamics. It behaves like a fluid. And so then I was like, well, of course

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that it's going to, it's going to interact with water, right? Like those two are going to be in

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resonance with each other all the time. Hence why we can see it in this are all the motors work.

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Hence why we can see data Austin's work. Um, and hence why even things like biogeometry work,

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like we can use shape to influence what's around us, which then impacts how, uh, EMFs manifest,

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right. And either, either create a harm, harmonious electromagnetic field or, you know,

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one that's maybe more chaotic. Um, but that explains it because if I, if, if I use shape,

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of course shape could influence either. And then that also got, you know, I used to do Tai Chi and

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things when I was in massage therapy school. And it's like, Oh, no wonder what I'm doing. My movement

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is also influencing this rate and changing things. And so those are all the docs that really started,

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it just brought all the pieces together for me in terms of how all of those different modalities

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and things can happen. It has to happen with the concept of the ether without it. None of that stuff

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makes sense. Right. Yeah. For me, that's what it, it brought everything full circle for me too,

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because we, we tend to focus on, like you said, the, the measurable things, if we can measure it,

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quantify it, weigh it, but there's also, that's linear. That's the linear aspect of, of life.

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That's what science is really good at measuring at. But once you, once you like talk about this

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stuff, like frequency, vibration, ether, it becomes nonlinear and therefore it's harder to measure.

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It's harder to quantify. And so the, the Western mind will, you know, dismiss it. And so, but with

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this conversation, just one, let me, let me add into this here, because there has been some amazing

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research done on this type of stuff in Russia, right? That just was behind an iron curtain for

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quite some time. And then most of it wasn't translated. And as it started to get translated,

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it's some mind blowing stuff. Like Dr. Kozerev was able to show that his thoughts could influence,

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he called it torsion fields, right? There's so many names, torsion fields, time, space, space,

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time. Like, I mean, we, we, we call it, we basically are the zero point energy. We call it

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so many different things. I like to call it the ether. And he, he showed, he literally was able

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to measure how his thoughts could influence the ether based on how, how thinking something actually

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translated to the movement of a pendulum. Or, or, or it's basically a pencil or something hanging

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or a stick hanging from a pendulum. And so it's like, we, there's so much information out there

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about it. But then every time I read something like that, I'm like, so of course that brings me

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back to why my emotions matter. Right? It brings me back to why things like the meditation

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experiments work when there's a thousand people meditating on peace and harmony in the world. And

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all of a sudden you see a 75% drop in, in crime. Right. And, and so it's like that, that's when I

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started to say, okay, my job, my goal in life is yes, to understand the science and to explain the

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science to people, but to basically turn everything back to love really is a game changer because of

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how profoundly we can influence so many things through this medium called the ether. When we

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live in love, when we live in gratitude, when we live in, when we live in that space. And I,

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I think that that's the missing piece. And I think that that could do so much good in the world. If

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we can, you know, kind of center everything back to love and make it sound, not woo, bring, bring

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the science back to love because that's what people need, you know, uh, in order to actually,

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in order to actually validate it. But yeah, you know, I appreciate this conversation because it's

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really the missing factor when it comes to what, what we need to do to further this discussion in

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quantum biology. Yeah, there's, there's, it's, it's kind of, it's an all encompassing conversation

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really, cause it touches on it. It goes beyond like science. It's about life in general. I've,

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I've just realized like, there's two, there's two aspects, you know, there's the manifest on manifest

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linear, nonlinear. And when you just go into one dimension,

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then you make a lot of progress, but then you will miss out on the entire picture. We live

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on the interface where those two meet and you got to take in both. There's this all encompassing

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context that never ends in the finest nuance you could possibly, we live in between that.

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And it's our job to unpack both as much as we can and the ether, the physics of quality. That's

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what I'll talk, I'll say the shapes like all that this like emerging field. I don't know, like

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it's measurable in other ways, but this is why I love, um, Dr. Ibrahim Kareem's work, all the energy

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stuff, you know, it's there. It's manifestable in the sense that we can see its clues, but it's not

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directly measurable by itself. And this is why I'm sure I've told you in the past, like Dr. Cruz's

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work is going to take us so far, but someone's going to retranslate it eventually in order to

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have it encompass everything. And conversations like these, it's all coming back to this one,

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this one spiritual reality, right? Where we both, both of us live in this one universe, one reality

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where we're manifest here physically, but we have forgotten the true essence of where we've come

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from, the context from which where we've come from. So it's nice to talk about that.

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So it's nice to talk to you about to you, who's primarily, you know, you're mainly

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science-based in your content, but I know you have these thoughts in the, in the recess of your mind.

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I do. And you know, I, I, and I, as you know, I openly share this in my community. I have no

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problem at all with that. Um, but, and the reason why I think I go a little bit heavier just in the

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science is to bring people into this, right? Um, and to get them to think about the body from,

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of their, from that tiny, tiny vibrational perspective in things like electrons gathering

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electrons, right? There's nothing wrong with a topic like that at all. Um, but once you,

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once you get someone into that and you say, well, what really is happening with those electrons?

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Well, they're standing waves. What are the, what's informing the standing waves? Well, space, right?

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Geometry is, and so you, you start to get people into this idea about waves and energy and fields

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in a non-woo, in the non-woo way. Um, and, um, or at least that's kind of what I'm trying to,

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to do. And then, and then, and then that's where, like you said, that's really where the deeper

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understanding of all of this happens. And so, um, yeah, yeah, I, I like it. I like it. And I,

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I feel like, um, I feel like I'm just barely touching the surface of the, of this type of

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knowledge. Yeah. Barely scratching the surface. And I'm so excited to learn more and more, um,

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about it because I think that this, like you said, this is the translation of all the important work

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that Dr. Cruz has done in the physical body. And then we just need to extend it out to,

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in that balanced way to the field as well and understand those field interactions too.

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Both the, both the physical aspect and the non-physical. I bet they're both black holes

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in the sense that you can go in as long as you want, as many years, decades as you want, but.

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I never feel like you should.

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No, like, um, I like to look at it from like numbers, like you have zero and then

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you can take that to like 10 quadrillion. You can keep increasing that, but in concept,

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never ends. And you can take that to like zero point, the decimals too. And so

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that's like how it reflects conceptually in my mind of, yeah, I can learn all the quantum physics.

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I can learn all the metaphysics, but will I be able to complete it? No, no, that's a humble pie

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I've had to take, but the good news is that application on both sides is so simple. It is

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dumbingly simple. Like for quantum biology and spirituality, they both manifest into this one,

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you know, cohesive way. You connect with nature, the physical thing you were made from,

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and you connect with everyone else where you are all cut from the same cloth. And if you're cut

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from the same cloth, oh, let's all be loving to each other. Let's all be kind. You know,

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it's all harmony, you know, and that's not, and eventually we'll realize that to be pragmatic and

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practical rather than woo.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's my hope for sure. And I, you know, what I might start doing more is

378
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kind of teaching things like earthing, because one of the things that earthing does is it actually,

379
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:58,160
the reason why you ground an antenna is to get static off the line, right? And so one of the main

380
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,960
benefits of earthing is yes, we're gathering electrons, but also we're clearing distorted

381
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,800
signals. We're clearing noise from the system so that we can be better receivers. And then we can

382
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,560
use that information that's in our biofield circling back through us and basically discard

383
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:20,240
the noise and bring the coherence back in. And so if I can start to maybe even talk more and more

384
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:27,280
about that as this knowledge, you know, just continues to expand for me, I think that will

385
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:32,880
also make it more tangible for people to be like, oh yeah, okay, so that makes sense, right? I'm an

386
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,480
antenna. I'm grounding the static, the noise so that I can be a better receiver. And if I'm an

387
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:44,720
antenna, what energy and information, what frequencies am I basically surrounding myself

388
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:49,760
with or putting back into myself? And so that's where things like, what is the frequency

389
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:56,560
of the sound? And so it's like, go into nature, right? Be it live in love, live in gratitude.

390
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,480
It just, all of that stuff, all of that stuff, I think really starts to conceptualize for people

391
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,000
when you look at it that way.

392
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:08,800
Yeah. And especially we need the science these days, the population does. And so what we can do

393
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:16,400
is you can play that game. Like, yeah, do this stuff. It's very scientific, but those are all

394
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,960
the things that we can do at the end of the day, because it's care for your body, right? And so

395
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:27,280
you can just take that baby step and then they'll, the penny will eventually drop. Like, oh, this is,

396
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,280
if someone's into like health, especially quantum biology, because if you get into the science,

397
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,840
you'll see the interconnections. That's how it was for me. Quantum biology was like my gateway.

398
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,920
I already had like a spiritual background knowledge, but quantum biology was really what

399
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:50,960
I was looking for in my brain to see like the manifestations of what I already know and in my

400
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:57,280
right brain. And so you'll see the connections and you can't not see it. You can't unsee it.

401
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:04,000
And then you'll realize, oh, this is all so simple. So it's the baby steps. So that's why I appreciate

402
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:11,680
your role because you're taking that through science, but you're leading them to where, to like

403
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:18,800
body, et cetera. So it's a wonderful, I'm glad I found you. I appreciate that Kenford likewise.

404
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:27,200
Yeah. So how does spirituality look like for you on a day-to-day basis? Not in a

405
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:34,960
woo sense, but I'm sure it has shaped your life, you know, shaped your priorities and focuses.

406
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,800
It used to be, I don't know if it used to be just physical, but in your post, you seem to make it a

407
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,080
And how has that impacted your well-being in general?

408
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,480
I know, that's a great question.

409
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:55,780
I would say, number one, I just feel like my understanding of this information just

410
00:41:55,780 --> 00:42:04,780
helps me to live as best as I can in terms of living in kindness, you know, in my interactions

411
00:42:04,780 --> 00:42:06,860
with other people and my interactions with my family, right?

412
00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:08,940
So there's just this low-lying awareness.

413
00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:16,680
There's this awareness always running in the background of wanting to be kind to people.

414
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,200
It really, I believe, it's just there.

415
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,640
Maybe it's, I think it's strengthened over time, you know, as I've been recognizing

416
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,840
this more and more, but it's just like, it's not hard to be kind.

417
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,440
It's not hard to do the right thing.

418
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,280
So that's just number one in terms of just me as a human being.

419
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,200
The other aspect is like, I express gratitude so much more as well.

420
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,920
And that was a practice that I had to start doing, right?

421
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,360
You know, something that I had to either kind of had to coach into myself, but then again,

422
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,160
it became second nature.

423
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:51,040
And I truly believe that in those expressions of gratitude, I'm transforming the water

424
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,920
before me, the food before me.

425
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,760
I'm transforming the space around me.

426
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,680
So I start every day, sonarized with a prayer, actually.

427
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,040
I started with the prayer of St. Francis, believe it or not, which is something that

428
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,640
I memorized as a kid, right?

429
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,760
But it really does inform me, like make me a channel of your peace where there is hatred.

430
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,880
Let me bring your love where there's despair in life.

431
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,880
Let me bring hope.

432
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,880
Like there's a lot.

433
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,080
All of a sudden I came across it again as an adult and I was just like, this, this is

434
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,080
up.

435
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,080
This is who I want to be, right?

436
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,480
I want to be this channel.

437
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,520
And that took on a whole new neat, a whole new concept as well, because I'm like, wow,

438
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,200
well, I am a channel, right?

439
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,280
I am an antenna.

440
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,600
I am a receiver and I want to be a receiver of this so I can give it out into the world.

441
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,200
And so that, that's just been a really, I love that practice of saying that prayer in

442
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:45,600
the morning and then gratitude, just expressing gratitude for the opportunity to be that,

443
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:51,360
you know, that source of information that can hopefully further love and light in the

444
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,360
universe.

445
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,360
That's basically what I say.

446
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,240
It's like, you know, God make me a channel of your peace that allows me to help people

447
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,400
connect to you.

448
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,000
And for me, God is the ether, right?

449
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,000
That's what we return to.

450
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,280
We return to source.

451
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,400
And so I just want people to understand, like, you know, we're all coming back to source.

452
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:14,640
And so I feel like it's just in a, it's subtle, but at the same time, it's always there, right?

453
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,720
I don't know if it's hard to describe it, like that, that spirituality or that, that

454
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,720
gratitude, that energy is just a part of me.

455
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,560
It's just always with me.

456
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,260
And it's, I feel comfort.

457
00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:30,280
I feel comfort in just expressing that, being able to have that with me and to express that

458
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,480
gratitude, and just to have that as a, as a background, like you said, as something

459
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,560
that's informing my body all the time.

460
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,640
It's just been, it's been pretty powerful and pretty profound.

461
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,000
And I feel great, Kenford, right?

462
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,160
Like I feel like I truly am in my best health.

463
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,640
I can honestly say I wake up every morning thriving.

464
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,640
And so I'm certain that has, that comes into play with it as well.

465
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:58,200
If I'm, if I'm basically just, the emotions that I'm putting out are creating coherent

466
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,600
energy in my biofield that circles back through me.

467
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,880
I know that it's a self reinforcement, right?

468
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,800
It's continuing to reinforce this, this, you know, ability to thrive.

469
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,800
So that's, that's what I got to say about that right now.

470
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,200
Most people don't even know what you described as a possibility because a lot of people in

471
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:24,240
my day to day life I run into, like you said, it's, it's like static.

472
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:28,120
They don't, they don't really like, that's, I don't know how to describe it.

473
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:35,880
But if I look at the person, I see who they are, but there's static, like, I'm tired.

474
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:41,680
There's their minds running, all these little symptoms and like, you know, nuances that

475
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,680
you can pick up.

476
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,080
If I had to put one word on it, it's static.

477
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:51,520
So spirituality, which is the unmanifest version and then quantum biology.

478
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,520
There's a lot of parallels between the two.

479
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,040
I'm sure you see it like connecting to the other.

480
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Connecting to source, right?

481
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,920
That we're doing that on two dimensions.

482
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,880
And so if we're connected, we disconnected ourselves from the earth and now we see the

483
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,680
chronic disease, but we've also disconnected ourselves from source.

484
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,280
Yes, thousand percent.

485
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,800
And there's like, the parallels are so uncanny.

486
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,480
Well, and then disconnecting from the source of the earth itself, where we build up static

487
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,200
on the line, right?

488
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,480
Disconnecting from source here, we build static in the line as well.

489
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,960
All of that, all of that.

490
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,880
There's so many parallels with it.

491
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,880
I don't know.

492
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:40,560
I just feel like there's, I feel like people are afraid to believe in a higher energy.

493
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,040
There's a lot of people who don't want to, you know, and like you said, there's a lot

494
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,360
of political nature behind being religious, right?

495
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,880
I think that's part of it too.

496
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,800
I feel like, I've been open with this.

497
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,040
I'm a Catholic, but I feel like I, there's so much politics when I say that.

498
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,320
There's a lot of judgment when I say that, but my expression of Catholicism, I find it's

499
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,320
just beautiful, right?

500
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,240
I love, I love my prayers and I love, I actually love going to church.

501
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,320
I love singing.

502
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,080
I love, you know, there's so many aspects of the community with that as well.

503
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,120
And so while, yeah, our, you know, we could probably go back in history and talk about

504
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:20,120
the horrors of different, different religious powers.

505
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,160
But I think that that's, but I think that part as well, I think people are almost embarrassed

506
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,600
to say that they believe in God or that they practice a certain religion because somehow

507
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,440
it associates them with something, right?

508
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,840
Something that they don't want to be associated with.

509
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,440
No, that's definitely what I see around too.

510
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:43,480
There's this kind of, there's this unspoken thing like, no, you don't mention God.

511
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,800
You know, it's kind of taboo.

512
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,560
And I do this in my work.

513
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:53,340
There's this one guy, we talk about God openly and I can feel like, I can feel the energy

514
00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:57,880
kind of shift where in the room it's like, there they go again kind of thing.

515
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:05,660
But you know, science has dominated for the past how many years, you know, and we've,

516
00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:10,360
we thought we discovered the key to life and now we've kind of taken it and, you know,

517
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,560
a firm grasp.

518
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:18,440
But we're eventually going to realize like the materialistic viewpoint is very, it's

519
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,200
hyper left brained.

520
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,000
It doesn't account for everything.

521
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:30,240
It's basically saying fight night and vanity can account for infinity, which is just not

522
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,240
true.

523
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:33,720
So I'm comfortable with it.

524
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:34,720
You're comfortable with it.

525
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:40,560
But there is a lot of people who are, you know, they find that shield, that barrier

526
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:45,200
to someone who's like openly open about it.

527
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,000
How would you introduce someone to that dimension of life?

528
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:56,680
Because I would say like near death experiences, like if look at those, and then there's stories

529
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,960
about reincarnation.

530
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:07,280
Those two are, you know, those blow the science probably usually will not explain that via

531
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,320
materialistic mechanistic ways.

532
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,000
So how would you introduce someone to this side?

533
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,480
Exactly what you said.

534
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,840
Like listen to, I mean, listen to a podcast or read a book about near death experiences

535
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,840
because it's fascinating, right?

536
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,760
To get those insights.

537
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,640
Not that every near death experience is beautiful, right?

538
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,880
I have had people reach out and say that they had a really rough time with that.

539
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,120
But like there are some profound near death experiences that I think can be, can really

540
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:42,640
alter one's viewpoint about what really is, what's not, like you said, what's not material.

541
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,280
What is there all the time?

542
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,240
It's all around us and all encompassing and always there, but just something that we can't

543
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:52,560
physically see, we can't touch it, we can't sense it.

544
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,720
And so that's one way.

545
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:58,320
And the other way, I find it fascinating to listen to conversations about people who can

546
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,680
remember their past lives.

547
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,680
You know, another one, right?

548
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,800
Where it's just like, you know, you talk to children, like why would a child, how could

549
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,320
a child make this up?

550
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,320
Or that's another one.

551
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,320
It's like go to children who have had near death experiences and children who can remember

552
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,280
their past lives, that event can be physically traced to, they'll describe what their, who

553
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,280
their family was.

554
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,040
They'll describe, you know, who they were and they can physically trace it back to an

555
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,160
actual person in history or a moment in time.

556
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,720
Those are just interesting things I think are really eye opening for people to say,

557
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,320
okay, what's more than this physical life?

558
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Like what, what really is also there?

559
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,920
And then, you know, what's my, what's my job or what's my goal in this physical life?

560
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,680
You know, is it to make a ton of money?

561
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,080
Is it to become really popular and rich and famous?

562
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Is it to own a really fancy car?

563
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:52,600
It's like, no, I don't like from my, all of my knowledge and understanding, it's like

564
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:58,360
we reincarnate basically until we find love, until we recognize we can live in love.

565
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,600
You know, it's like, and so it's just been, it's been eye opening for me to be like, okay,

566
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:04,600
I've been given these gifts.

567
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,760
I think, I think, I think God or divine creator, whatever name you want to get it, because

568
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:15,040
you know, I don't want that to be polarizing to people, but gives you gifts that you can

569
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,400
use in this life to get to that point.

570
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:25,120
And I feel like I've been given the gift of understanding science, but the more I'm understanding

571
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,520
science, the more I'm understanding it's all about.

572
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,520
Yeah.

573
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,480
That's very well said from a scientific person.

574
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:41,400
There are two hemispheres, you know, it's on the same, on the same globe.

575
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:47,520
So I'm loving this conversation, Carrie is very much needed.

576
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,160
I love it too, Kenbert.

577
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,760
I was like, maybe we'll talk about why, why band gap semi-conducted like, but I'm like,

578
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,760
this is awesome.

579
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,160
I was not expecting this, that I'm loving it.

580
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,160
Yeah.

581
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,160
No, I want it.

582
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,400
Cause I know you can be very technical and I definitely wanted, that was one of the things

583
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,200
that was one aspect I wanted to explore with you, like technicalities, because you usually,

584
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:14,880
you know, the technical side to communicate it and simplify it to the lay public.

585
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:22,240
And there's like value in knowing details, but at the same time, we have so much of that,

586
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:28,200
you know, you can just listen to Jack Cruz, you can read to, you can read his blogs.

587
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:34,920
It's the details all there, but there's this practical, cause I had to come to a decision

588
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:40,040
myself, like, am I going to really dive down this rabbit hole like Carrie has, you know,

589
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,760
that's a lot of time and energy.

590
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,880
How do I want to distribute my, my, my energy like that?

591
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,920
And if she's farther down that rabbit hole and she's come to that one conclusion that

592
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,800
love is all that matters.

593
00:52:53,800 --> 00:53:01,680
It's like, uh, should I just focus on what matters more?

594
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:07,400
Because I can know enough to communicate to people, the physical side, but I can also

595
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,200
focus on love more and embody it more.

596
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:15,560
And that in of itself will, the embodiment is what matters.

597
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:21,100
Cause I know people see you in the community and they know like you're very smiley, um,

598
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:25,920
your vibe, Xanny, like her and I know each other in, um, in real life.

599
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:32,320
And I introduced, yeah, I introduced you to her and the first time she came on your Q&A,

600
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,760
she was like, Oh my God, Carrie's like, she's glowing.

601
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,040
She has such a good vibe.

602
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,760
And yeah, yeah.

603
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,600
Just some context for you.

604
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:54,520
And I don't know, I'm sure one thing I will say is that I didn't, I used to not care about,

605
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,440
I used to not care for God.

606
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,120
I didn't really care about the question.

607
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,680
Kind of just live my life and wanted to make money and all the typical stuff.

608
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:11,200
But then you like, then the experiences happen and you're in this pit and then eventually

609
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,000
God brings you out.

610
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:22,720
And from this like new perspective of, you know, source, I'll say, I'll say that nihilism

611
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:25,880
has been annihilated.

612
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,720
Life is so full of meaning and purpose now in this new context.

613
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:36,840
And I'm, and I'll tell you right now that seeing around me, nihilism is an epidemic.

614
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,800
You know, there's this pointlessness, you know, like we're all going to die one day

615
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:48,700
kind of thing, might as well get everything while we can, you know, escape, escape, escape.

616
00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:51,320
There's that background of everyone's lives.

617
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,080
And I'm like, yeah, I suffer from like failing my purpose.

618
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,360
Maybe I'll feel like a failure, but I don't feel purposeless at all.

619
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,360
Never.

620
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,440
And I'm sure you can relate.

621
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,840
You have a whole community of souls you serve.

622
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,440
Like there's, I'm sure there's nothing that fills your heart more than that.

623
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Right?

624
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,440
I am, I am just honored every morning to wake up and be like, I get to talk to a bunch of

625
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:22,240
people and like put out a post and hopefully inspire someone else to kind of like consider

626
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:23,320
this a little bit more.

627
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,320
And it's, it's the coolest thing ever.

628
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,320
You're absolutely right.

629
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,120
And then with that comes, you know, pressure too, right?

630
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,800
They like, I want to make sure I'm teaching the right stuff and I want to make sure I'm,

631
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,000
you know, influencing in the best capacity possible.

632
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,520
And, and, but yeah, you're, you're right.

633
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,160
I think that's the worst thing one could feel is purposeless.

634
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,160
Right?

635
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:49,080
Like without purpose, then, then, you know, what, what really is there?

636
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,160
And so you're, you hit the nail on the head.

637
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:57,560
My biggest fear is not fulfilling my purpose or not doing the best, my best job on my purpose.

638
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Absolutely.

639
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,520
But gosh, that, that the thought that there's, that there's so many people waking up without

640
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,200
purpose and just feeling that that just, I mean, it just, it just has this lifeless energy.

641
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:12,480
It just has such an energy stealing, you know, feeling associated with it, that it's just

642
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,800
sad.

643
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:20,520
When someone's like suicidal, if you think about it, they're probably at a point where

644
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:26,040
they're convinced that there's no more love in the light, in life.

645
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,200
If that it's so part, it's so much a part of us.

646
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:36,920
It is who we are that if we're convinced that it is none of it for us in this life, life

647
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,120
becomes not worth living.

648
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:46,120
Isn't that, that speaks to how much, you know, love is missed out on.

649
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Yeah, yeah.

650
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,120
Yet we're afraid of it.

651
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,280
You know, isn't that, isn't that super interesting too?

652
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,280
It's so weird.

653
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,240
Oh, so much, so much to unpack with that.

654
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:56,240
Right?

655
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,240
Absolutely.

656
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,240
You know, and here's the deal too.

657
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,400
I think love is thrown around in a lot of different ways.

658
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,720
Like, um, but we, we, the English language is the worst, I think, just because we, we

659
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:08,640
use the word love for, you know, a lot of different things.

660
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,000
I can love cookies.

661
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,000
I can love my husband.

662
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:17,120
I can, you know, um, and it's not that you, and I, and I think someone who's never experienced

663
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,520
the love might be intimidated by this.

664
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,440
I had one woman call me, uh, like I, I, I had a chat with her and she told me her experience

665
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:31,160
where she, um, you know, d couldn't feel love like for herself, but she knew that she had

666
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:36,680
to put, you know, basically love herself and, and basically, um, and she wanted to imprint

667
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,760
her water with love.

668
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,840
And so she couldn't love, she, she did not have any love for her own physical body, her

669
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,840
own mental body, nothing.

670
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,160
She only loved her children.

671
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,440
She loved her, her, her husband, she loved her dog.

672
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,040
So she started thinking that love into the glass of water.

673
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:58,000
And um, at, when she drank that first glass of water, she was violently ill, violently

674
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,320
sick, but she knew that it had changed something.

675
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:07,960
And my, my take on that one was that, um, she was so out of tune with love that it was

676
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,360
such a jarring frequency to kind of put back in.

677
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,720
It was a very, uh, very, uh, you know, earth earthquake like effect in terms of trying

678
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,360
to retune her body back to that wavelength.

679
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,880
Um, but over time she kept doing it over time.

680
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,560
She finally developed her own self love and she loves herself.

681
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,940
She's thriving again, but you don't have to love yourself.

682
00:58:26,940 --> 00:58:30,080
If that's where you're not, if that's not where you're at right now, what could, what

683
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,320
do you love?

684
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,320
Right?

685
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,960
It's not about, you know, necessarily like, Oh, life is great.

686
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,960
Nothing ever goes wrong.

687
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,960
You know, we don't, we don't need to spirit, spiritual bypass anything, but I think we

688
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:45,880
can recognize things that are in our lives that are very small, but maybe something that

689
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,400
shows love or gives us joy or something we're grateful for.

690
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,560
And so that's why that's, I think a really entry point for someone who is suicidal.

691
00:58:54,560 --> 00:59:01,200
Because you have to start maybe expanding your, your eyes in terms of what, what is

692
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:07,100
there in your world that you can express a little bit of gratitude for, or, you know,

693
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:08,680
is there something that you love?

694
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,960
Maybe it's not yourself, but do you love your cat?

695
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,880
Do you love your, do you love your chinchilla?

696
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:14,880
Right?

697
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,880
I mean, I think, I think we, we, we say love and we, we want it to be this really big word

698
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,640
and it's really big emotion, really impactful.

699
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,920
It's like, if you're not there, that's okay.

700
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:31,160
You can start very small, but you can get there because as you start to embody love

701
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,400
more and more and interact with that emotion and tune into that emotion, it fills your

702
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,680
biofield and it comes back into you.

703
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,000
And that's just a self reinforcing strengthening cycle.

704
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,600
That's why they say, you know, again, then the emotions that you put out come back to,

705
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,260
yes, it's in your biofield, but then you begin resonating a specific frequency that draws

706
00:59:48,260 --> 00:59:49,780
more of those people to you.

707
00:59:49,780 --> 00:59:54,140
So then now in your life, you're interacting with more people whom you love or whom you

708
00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:55,140
enjoy their company.

709
00:59:55,140 --> 00:59:56,140
Right?

710
00:59:56,140 --> 00:59:58,640
And then it just starts to build and build and build, but everything's happening at that

711
00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:59,640
vibrational level.

712
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:05,040
But that love word, I think is very hard for a lot of people to, to interact with just

713
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,520
as the same, the same as God is a tough word for people to interact with.

714
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,140
If they're a non-believer, it's really tough.

715
01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:15,400
And if they don't love themselves or they don't have love or experience, what they consider

716
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,400
is love.

717
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,280
I don't know, I think a lot of people are going to put up a wall to that word.

718
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:27,200
Isn't it interesting how both love and God have a, have this like, but it's basically

719
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,200
the same thing.

720
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,200
They're the same thing.

721
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,360
They both, there's this like, but then it's the same thing.

722
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,760
That's, that's another cool thing.

723
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,360
I just connected with you talking.

724
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,520
Oh my God.

725
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:45,280
So to wrap this episode off, let's go like geeky and nerdy for a moment.

726
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:52,160
So how does, how does like me loving, man, cause you know how like cold increases the,

727
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,920
the UV light signal inside of us?

728
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,240
Is there a way that love could do that too?

729
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:03,760
Like if I feel this love, would there be like a, a manifestation of light that gets strengthened?

730
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,480
Well what's, what is love?

731
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:10,320
What, what, like what, what's, what's, what's this emotion that we're putting out?

732
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,320
It's a magnetic field.

733
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,440
And anytime we run a magnetic, we apply a magnetic field, you induce electric currents,

734
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,440
right?

735
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,320
So you're strengthening your electrical signaling all throughout your body, simply from love,

736
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,160
simply from that emotion right there.

737
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,880
And so that's, that's the quality of it.

738
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,280
It's got a magnetic quality to it.

739
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:32,760
And it's got, you know, it's that magnetic quality also organizes the water molecules

740
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:33,760
inside of us, right?

741
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,560
Because every water molecule has a dipole it's called.

742
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,920
It's like a part, one end of it, that's a little bit more negative.

743
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,680
One of them ended up that's a little more positive, right?

744
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,640
So that's a, it's like a magnet, a mini magnet that's kind of precessing.

745
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,720
It's moving, it's wiggling.

746
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,440
And once you apply a magnetic field to it, it starts to organize, right?

747
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,360
And that organization is coherence.

748
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,160
So again, yeah, it's all affecting our physical body.

749
01:01:55,160 --> 01:02:00,480
It's affecting the light, it's affecting the water, it's affecting, you know, like I said,

750
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,320
the expression of our genes, it's affecting which molecules our body is making at any given

751
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,320
time.

752
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,200
But yeah, it can totally strengthen the light inside of us.

753
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:14,960
But you can imagine then how someone, why, I mean, I would say a strength, I get the

754
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:20,400
light in our body as like being passed along in these coherent lasers, like that we can't

755
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,400
see, right?

756
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,640
It's basically this ultraviolet light that's in like these really coherent lasers that's

757
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,100
being distributed to the body where it needs.

758
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:35,400
You can imagine if we're not providing a strong enough magnetic signal that that energy can

759
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,400
weaken, right?

760
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,200
That electric current can weaken, that electric flow can weaken.

761
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,760
And then whereas if we touch the earth, right, if we get in contact with the earth's magnetic

762
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:49,960
field, if we give ourselves love and strengthen that biofield and that magnetic flow through

763
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:55,240
us, then all of a sudden those lasers are now going to coherently distribute their information,

764
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:56,920
you know, their energy, right?

765
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,320
And so that's what I kind of view it as.

766
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:03,360
It's like this ability to just reinforce the electrical nature of our bodies.

767
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,000
It's already there.

768
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,480
Wow, reinforce the electrical nature of our bodies.

769
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,480
That's perfect.

770
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,480
Awesome.

771
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,840
So that is how love manifests physically, you guys.

772
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,880
So it's a physical, physiological phenomenon.

773
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:26,320
So Carrie, in the context of this episode, what last words would you have for someone

774
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:34,320
listening to this, especially if they're like not familiar or they have that guard, you

775
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,400
know, they maybe they don't place love in that same pedestal, like, yeah, it's good

776
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,040
to be kind to people.

777
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:44,080
But we're talking like it's the umbrella, you know, so what would you say?

778
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:49,760
You know, the first thing and I think this is because this this recommendation is because

779
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:56,120
one of the activities I do with almost all of my clients is I do a mindset exercise.

780
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:01,720
And in that mindset exercise, one of the things I want them to do is list basically in right

781
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,920
in the present tense what the thriving version of themselves is like get really detailed.

782
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,580
And then I want them to embody that thriving version of themselves.

783
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:14,600
And I want them to list emotions they associate with it.

784
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,680
And that's the hardest part.

785
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:20,160
People can't embody that and then feel what emotions are going to feel.

786
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:25,800
And so the emotion that everyone can feel that I've found is gratitude.

787
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:26,880
They can feel grateful.

788
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,560
It's like I am grateful that that is me.

789
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,840
That is the thriving version myself that I'm embodying.

790
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,420
And so I tell people, you got to start with a gratitude practice.

791
01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:40,180
It could be thanking the sunrise, right?

792
01:04:40,180 --> 01:04:44,640
It could be, you know, being grateful for the plate of food that's been delivered to

793
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:45,640
you.

794
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:51,160
Yeah, it's like but the more we can express gratitude, I think that shifts things profoundly.

795
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,960
Because if I can start to be grateful for this conversation with you, and I could be

796
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,780
grateful for the beautiful fall colors all around me.

797
01:04:58,780 --> 01:05:02,880
It changes, it really starts to strengthen and change that resonant quality of me.

798
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:07,940
I become an antenna for more things that I find gratitude for, right?

799
01:05:07,940 --> 01:05:09,520
Things that maybe then bring me joy.

800
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,720
And then that all of a sudden, I think, starts to really manifest and starts to bring love

801
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,920
into the picture.

802
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,880
You're not just going to find love, right?

803
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,740
You're not just going to go out there and be like love, love, love.

804
01:05:20,740 --> 01:05:26,480
And so I feel like a practice of gratitude is a very, very profound way to get there

805
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:34,560
and to get to that feeling of wow, yes, there is this all encompassing thing called love.

806
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:39,320
But you're not, there's no direct path just like, yeah, ding, go ahead and reel in the

807
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,320
love.

808
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,840
But I think gratitude is a really good way to start to get there.

809
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,080
It's something you practice and it's something you must embody.

810
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,920
And you don't just find it, you don't just wake up one day and you feel blissed out on

811
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,920
love, right?

812
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:54,920
Right, exactly.

813
01:05:54,920 --> 01:06:00,600
And that's, I think that's, I think that's what you alluded to earlier, where escapism

814
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,600
comes into play, right?

815
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,200
It's like people maybe want to feel that love and they just don't know how to get to it.

816
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:11,000
But there is a roadmap to get there and I found gratitude to be a pretty powerful one.

817
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,600
So well said.

818
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:13,600
Awesome.

819
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,800
This has been a fantastic episode, Carrie.

820
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,880
Thank you so much for having me here.

821
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,880
This has been great.

822
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:21,880
Yeah.

823
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,320
I'm so grateful for this conversation, like you said.

824
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:32,000
And I don't know, I hope you guys just take into account this other aspect of health,

825
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,180
of just reality in general.

826
01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:42,440
We focus a lot on physicality, but there's two dimensions that we're working with in

827
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:43,440
this.

828
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,920
And I really want to connect a lot of dots with this podcast.

829
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,920
So maybe I'll title it the biophysics of love or something like that.

830
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:51,920
That's fun.

831
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:52,920
I like that.

832
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,240
But just to introduce it to people.

833
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,880
But yeah, thank you so much Carrie for coming on and it was a pleasure jamming on love with

834
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:02,880
you.

835
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:03,880
Yeah.

836
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:04,880
Thanks, Kenford.

837
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:05,880
I've loved this conversation.

838
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:06,880
So I really appreciate you.

839
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:07,880
Thank you so much.

840
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:08,880
Awesome.

841
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:09,880
All right guys.

842
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,920
Well, that concludes this episode of the Lighthouse Podcast and I'll see you back next time.

843
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:21,320
Cheers.