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Kelly, welcome to the show.

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Thank you for having me.

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Yeah, I know it's exciting to have you because your name is literally the quantum mom and

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Yeah, and quantum health, you know, one of my favorite implications for it when if we were to apply it is

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Yeah, it helps me right?

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That's great. But the best thing is that my kids are gonna grow up with this and

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When I compare it to the environment I grew up in

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Man, I can't help but think that they're just gonna be little rock stars when they grow up

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Because when I look back at how I grew up, it's kind of crazy because

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Tech was everywhere

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Wi-Fi computers

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School, you know 730 to 3 or whatever

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Like I look back and I'm like not sure why it wasn't worse

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I'm glad I'm as capable as I am now

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But I'm also aware that I could have been much more capable had I been in a more supportive environment. So

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The implications for the future are

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Staggering when it comes to quantum health, but it's super obscure, right?

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How did you come to this and because you know, you come across carnivore plant-based

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Or whatever. This is a little different

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Because when I came to it, it kind of solved all that stuff

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Why is this paradigm specifically special and what's your what drives you to keep spreading the message?

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Well, the paradigm is so special the whole you know quantum

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quantum principles quantum biology

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perspective is

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It's ultimately it's it's foundational this it, you know

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I tell people I believe I've sort of come into the you know, the fountain of truth

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essentially and

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Within within my own life within my own, you know health I

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I found it to be the thing that really

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changed everything and

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for some reason

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Everything about it every time I listened to Dr. Jack Kruse. I

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Just every cell in my body resonated as this is the truth and I just kept going back to his work

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I would sort of drift away from it for a little bit and ultimately would always find my way back and

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I actually

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Told Jack that you know, Jack is Rome all all roads lead to Jack

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Because you know most of us that sort of found that work, you know the

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Where he he basically took the work of all of the you know

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The the majors and within this this realm and and and brought it together like it's sort of like a beautifully curated

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collection of truth and

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When I had a I would call it a mindless

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A I would call it a minor health crisis, you know

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I I had some weight gain that essentially didn't make any sense to me with you know

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Without changing food without changing workouts, you know, all of the things that were told are

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the the drivers of your metabolic health I

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You know, I wasn't getting anywhere. I had profound changes in in my own weight and

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couldn't get any answers and

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ultimately

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Went back into Dr. Kruse's work very deeply and understood what I had done. I had essentially broken my circadian rhythm and

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basically telling me that there's a problem and you had better take care of it and

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And so I did and I got very very serious at that time. I had been I've been somewhat

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you know in into it, but I

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Got very serious when that was my experience when I basically gained 40 pounds like that

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and you know on a small frame, that's a little alarming and

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You know doctors were looking at me functional medicine doctors were looking at me saying everything's fine

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Labs are fine. Everything is fine and essentially looking at me like I was a little a little crazy, but I

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intuitively knew

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something is not right and I have to figure it out and

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And so, you know, that's essentially what what sort of happened

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with me and

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Really fully understood the importance of light on our biology and I got very very serious within my household

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With my children I had all like I said, I had always you know sort of dabbled in it

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My kids have worn blue blockers since they were little, you know, they always had like the little sort of yellowy orange uvex

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Glasses I was a bit less serious about it for myself

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That you know not anymore. I would say probably the past eight years. I'm very

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stretched with my light environment and

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It was basically my own and of one that really showed me this is your light environment is

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vitally important to your health to your metabolic health to you to your mental health to your cognitive health and

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So, you know, I I got very very serious and my kids

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The famous, you know saying in this house is it's a non-negotiable

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There is a room for negotiation. We could talk about food all day. We could negotiate about food all day light

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Because it's first principles, right?

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Let's let's talk about your kids because they probably grew up very strangely compared to the other

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households that they probably had to do weird things and their friends are probably like

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why does your mom make you do that or something along those lines and

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Let's flesh out how your kids grew up and how it's kind of different

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You know how you took certain steps and you kept at it. You kept at it

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What did you do in what areas and how have you seen that fruit ripen?

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So today my boys are 18 and 22

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For you know, but by the grace of God, I just intuitively

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Felt as though sunlight was good for them, even though the pediatrician would

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Ream me every time we went

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Because my boys were so young

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Every time we went because my boys were these little platinum blonde, you know

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brown skin, you know babies at babies and

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My husband is Portuguese. So my kids, you know have very good melanin which I'm

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So yeah, I mean my just intuitively my kids grew up

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barefoot in the Sun all summer long and

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Then on I I worked very little when they when they were small and so the two days that I did work

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They would be with my in-laws which I also feel like you know that that family that sort of generational

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family is also part of the the quantum family, right and

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So they got to spend a good amount of time with my in-laws and my in-laws just did the same thing

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They had they had a pool and it was easier for them to just let the kids run around naked and swim all day

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And you know eat breakfast lunch and dinner outside. It was just easier and

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You know, that was the way

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That my kids my kids were raised in it and it it was a wonderful way for them to grow up and

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At the ages that they are they were not part of the group of children today that have

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access to cell phones in elementary school

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both my boys

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They were you know the oldest of all of their friends to ever have access

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To a cell phone and that was always very very limited, you know when that did happen

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That was it was very controlled and very very limited same thing with video games

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Did not have access to video games when they were very young. I

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gaming system and but

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Again, that was very controlled. That was very strict. They could they could only play those games on Saturday mornings

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from 9 until 12 and and that was it

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Weekends no, I mean week weekdays during the school week. Absolutely not

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Summer vacations. No, they had no access to video games through summer vacations or school vacations and

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How did you do that? And I was like, what are you talking about? How did I do that? I'm like, I'm the parents

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I'm you know, I'm the one making these decisions and

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None of them none of their friends parents ever felt as though they could sort of implement those

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You know those tight constraints, but I did it. That's the way that it was from from day one and

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my son Logan, I remember him being little and I would

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Shut the blinds in his room and he would he would say to me. No mommy. Don't don't shut those because I

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Wake up when that as the Sun comes up and and and you know, that's how I that's how I like it

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You know and I was like, okay

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Strict about what they ate everything was organic. Everything was local. We have some wonderful organic farms here all of our

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That does an absolutely beautiful job at raising the animals in a in a humane and

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Nutrition, you know was it was a big part of of of what my my degree is in

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Sarah Kleiner and I joke that you know

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It's like it starts with plastic and it starts with you say, uh, I have to get the plastics out of the house, right?

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and then it just goes to a whole a whole different place, but

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You know very focused on you know, the Weston a price way of eating. I

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It was a you know a member of their group. That's actually how I came to

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Meet Jack Kruse for the first time was at a Weston a prize sponsored event at the vermont 2017

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So and which was hysterical because I had my youngest son with me

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we went up together for that weekend for those talks and

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When when we walked in they were handing out blue blocking glasses to everyone

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And my youngest son just looked at me and he said you're amongst your peers

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Just looked at me and he said you're amongst your people

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He had never known anyone that anyone else outside of our home that used blue blocking glasses

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And you know my my kids were were very active. They both went to Montessori preschool, which I felt really

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Wonderful early learning experience lots of time outside. I mean that the curriculum is that has

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nature built into it where you know their their

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I strongly recommend any family if they're looking into a form of education. I found

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Montessori to very much align

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with quantum principles, you know and allowing children to really really

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Myself whenever that time that's that's far away, but Montessori

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Homeschooling right because if I take them home

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I can control the environment around them, right and that's going to be huge. I can

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Replicate what you just laid out. Yeah, so

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That is very abnormal for a child to grow up in in that and I don't want to say abnormal like it's bad

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I want to highlight that it's amazing actually because I want to speak for most people

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I would get I would ask for McDonald's right?

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it's just you don't know what you don't know, right and if

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If we don't understand how light is truly intimately tied to our biology

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Of course, we're going to leave our kid in front of the ipad for

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12 hours, right?

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Right. It seems so benign it does. Yeah, it's not this sort of toxin that you can see that you can smell

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That you that some people don't even don't even feel it. I mean some people do feel it, but some people

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Just are so sort of disconnected to themselves that they that they don't even feel what it's doing

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You know, it's that like slow trickle of you know, demise basically

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after having accumulated exposure

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I can feel like residual brain fog

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and i'm working on reversing all that having found it out

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It's just crazy to think that some people never realize they never get this in their awareness

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So can you can you explain the key differences between?

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Your kids spending a lot of time outside

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Eating the organic food. I'm sure you all filtered your water too

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Like all these little changes. Yeah, we actually we have the oldest

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Natural spring in the country. Wow. It's 10 minutes up the road

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And they're a wonderful family that run it. It is a glacial water that comes down from Nova Scotia

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I there there's such wonderful people

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it's called Simpson spring in Massachusetts and

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They accommodate me so much

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They i've asked them to send their water out and have it tested beyond what they already do which is absolutely amazing

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They've had it tested for deuterium. It's very low in deuterium because it's wow water. So

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You know that like I mean that in and of itself is huge right to

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For your children to just to grow up with with wonderful, you know, low deuterium water. It's just amazing

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Yeah, all those little things they add up

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How what are your what are the names of your two boys?

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My two boys, so my oldest is logan. My youngest is kaden

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They both actually they're both in college right now. They both go to the same school, which is you know, rather amusing to me

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Which is lovely. I think that they're you know together at the same college

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One of the interesting things that I did with logan when he was applying to colleges

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We had done I did this with both my boys

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We did a we did sort of a baseline standardized testing the sat like don't do that

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Don't do any prep

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whatsoever just take walk into the test take the test cold so that we have the baseline

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And they both did and they you know, they both scored well

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I said, okay, let's

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Let's let's do some cool stuff and

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So at the time I had said to logan just

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You know follow my instructions for one month

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one month prior to the exam and

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Again, my kids, you know always wore blue blockers

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So that wasn't you know, I didn't have to sort of beat them over the head to get them to be compliant with that

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So that was that was in order

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I had him come off all video games for the entire month

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And granted he it wasn't so much so anyway, but still I said none absolutely

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No video games for a month really reduce your your tech use

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You know reduce your phone use and he he's not really super in social media or anything like that

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Anyway, he was he was soccer player and played on, you know, three different teams

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So he he didn't have time basically for for that

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He and he would come home and just be too tired, you know for anything and and go to bed anyway, so you know

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Neither of my kids have ever been allowed cell phones in their rooms

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growing up so

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For that month prior to the test

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I had logan come out in the morning with me morning sunlight

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and ground and

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I also

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Basically had him eating salmon

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Almost every day

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Almost every day

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So there was

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So there was you know the blocking the blue light at night no video games very limited self use

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Sunlight grounding he got tons of physical activity already

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You know the the the salmon

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all of that and

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He essentially in that one month

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Jumped up three full merit scholarship levels

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He

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He

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Absolutely crushed that test

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And came home and he even said to me when he came home. He said I think I aced the math portion

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And I just kind of laughed, you know, I knew that he was a strong math student and I just kind of laughed doing okay great

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and then when when the scores came in it was like

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like

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Wow you you just

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Catapulted to a different

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level

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so

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That was really really interesting

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You know from from my standpoint because we had we had the control, you know, we had had

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Previous test force and again during that during that time period no test prep

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So it had nothing to do with learning how to hack the test

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It had everything to do with optimizing his biology so that his brain could just

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Fire the way that

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You know that it's meant to

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And essentially, you know, that's what it is is is

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You know

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Having these principles in place within your family

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you are giving your kids the the

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greatest advantage they will ever ever have

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To be the most optimal human and to function in the most optimal way mentally

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mentally physically spiritually

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I mean it in my opinion. It's the it's the greatest gift that i've ever ever given my children

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You know and they're able the

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the emotional intelligence that they have

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because their brains are

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working in a very clear way

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The emotional intelligence that they have to navigate through this really

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Sort of insane place that we are in society right now

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It's just it's i'm just

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So thankful, you know so thankful that that they're able to actually

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Look at things and think very very critically

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about

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About you see they're also able to look at their peers and absolutely recognize

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Oh, I see what's happening there

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You know, I mean they have friends

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Most of their friends stay up all night long gaming

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Most of their friends

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Really struggle mentally

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Yeah, now this is the same for me a lot of my peers

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the oh friday nights there

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I've never been into that stuff. First of all, you know go into the out on a friday night until 2 a.m

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but now knowing about

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Quantum biology i'm like that is the absolute worst thing you could

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possibly do

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You you wake up

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No, you go to sleep at 2a you miss the sunrise

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You wake up look at your screen

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And you tell your body to it's just

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to think about

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Like not to go from benign to

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This blue light is really toxic in addition to

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all the emf's floridaid water that we drink it's

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This is where i'm like really interested in your story because you just laid out these kids are living proof

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of these biological principles

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really

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taking place and

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Positively impacting them

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And i'm sure they notice let me know if they've mentioned something like this, but when i'm around my peers

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something I notice is

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like conversations seem to take place and fast forward and then

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they're

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They're having conversations, but then the topics are really sporadic

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like some people will go on one thread of conversation and then another will

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ADHD style just go in a completely different

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And i'm like you guys are

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It never goes, you know deep and there's usually not like an in-depth connection being made

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And there's usually a lot of reactivity

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No critical thinking it's kind of just like

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Go with the wave of your emotion. Like i'm sure they've noticed that have they talked about that to you or

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and

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Yeah

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Talking about it

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Yes, every everything that you just said is

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Is is exactly what they are experiencing

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you know

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many many of their friends some of them

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Some of their friends have gotten to a critical tipping point

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where

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they so

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One of logan's best friends and this is a boy that that they've been friends best friends since they were six years old

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This this young man morgan and I I can speak about him

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He gives me full, you know full clearance to speak about him

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and his experience so

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Morgan was always a very a very sort of anxious

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Kid and we used to joke morgan's mom and I we used to joke that logan was morgan's emotional support person

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So morgan wouldn't get on the bus unless logan was on the bus with him logan would morgan wouldn't play a sports

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Game a team unless logan was on the team with him. So, you know, they just sort of established this this this wonderful

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connection these two

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And as they got into high school

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Morgan circadian rhythm got very dysregulated as most young men who are you know over addicted to tech

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over gaming

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Circadian rhythm just gone. He was staying up all night. He was sleeping all day

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He wasn't making it into high school

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And so he actually stopped going to high school and essentially slept all day stayed up on tech all night

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His he he gained a tremendous amount of weight

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He developed he had like a a tick disorder

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lots of emotional, you know instability

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and things were things were really spiraling out of out of control

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And it got to a point that morgan had come over the boys. It was there

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It was their senior year of high school

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and morgan had come over the house and I physically

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Saw that this boy was unwell

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and I immediately

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Went into my bedroom and I called his mother and and we've been friends long enough that I felt as though I could I could

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Cross that line and I said to her i'm really afraid

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And she said so am I and she said I don't know what to do

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We have been to see the best doctors in the country. We live we live 30 minutes from boston

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She had access to the best of the best in the country and she sought it out

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She has a very good mother

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She sought out the best medical care for this boy and all they continued to do is medicate

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Medicaid Medicaid and it was just one on top of another on top of another and he was zombified

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Basically, he was he was metabolically unwell as you could physically see and he was a complete zombie

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And you know, my son was alarmed because he could see his best friend just

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slipping, you know slipping into the abyss

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And then one day logan came home and he said to me it and it was shortly after that and logan came home

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And he said to me mom

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Morgan said that he can't live like this anymore and he asked if you could help him

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And I said, let's do it. I'm all in

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So I got morgan. I called his mom

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And she said yes, like, you know, he is 18. He can make these decisions for himself

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And so I got morgan set up to see dr francisco buteris, which is he is a quantum practitioner

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So he's a primary care physician who who practices he's a decentralized physician

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Practices these quantum principles within his his practice for his patients

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So we got morgan set up with him because there were there were medications and there were things outside of the lifestyle

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Coaching that I could give him. He needed to be medically supervised through this process and so

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You know francisco worked with him on that end

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I worked with him, you know on the the lifestyle things that you know, the blue blocking glasses

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I got him the glasses. I got him set up him and his family set up with a red light panel

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And you know basically just sort of went over with him all of these, you know, different quantum principles

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And he was very very open to it because he he was not living his life

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He was he was a slave to pharmaceuticals and his entire life was a blur of life

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His entire life was a blur

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and

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He knew he knew that it didn't feel right to him

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and so

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fast forward

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to one year one year later

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Morgan

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Graduated high school

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He got his license

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He got a job and is working full time

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He has lost

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30 pounds

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He is thriving

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Absolutely

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Thriving

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He is happy

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He is

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living the life of a of a of a young healthy man

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You know and it really experiencing life to to the fullest he and logan those two boys

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You know, they get in the jeep and they just they go they they do snowmobiling trips. They do dirt biking trips

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They they do fishing trips

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They they put their money together. They bought a boat so they go fishing all the time and they have the trailer

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They're thriving they're thriving and they're thriving together and they have you know, there's there's a wonderful brotherhood

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with the two of them, but you know

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I saw that and and that

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child was rescued from a lifetime an absolute lifetime of

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disability and and

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rehabilitation and you know just i'm just so thrilled with him and

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We you know, we're we have another situation now with my younger son. Kayden has a very good friend

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Who is going through a similar circumstance?

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And it's like okay, we know how to do this. We know what to do

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You know, and you know, he's also

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He's also very open

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Because that's the thing these these young people

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I feel they're much more open than some of you know

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Some 40 year olds that I that I coached

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You know I can I can talk to

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17 18 19 year old and they're much more open to what I have to say

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Than a 40 year old, you know tech employee that is wondering

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Yeah

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You know why they can't get out of bed?

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so

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No, so first of all

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Your sons are the example of this is what happens if you do it right from the beginning

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They turn out to be amazing people

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but then you just

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Talked about your son's friend

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Who it was a rocky road and it wasn't looking good. The trajectory was just

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God-awful

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But if you correct if you course correct

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As soon as you catch it, there's inherently grace

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In life when you course correct

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You can screw it up for 17 years

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You know biologically in your environment

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but if you really

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Walk this path

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Like you said he turned it around in a year

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And his trajectory has completely flipped

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180 degrees

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For the rest of his life, which is

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Amazing, you know you

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It's not too late. Like if you're listening to this

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And you're thinking man my kids have been under this environment for

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20 years

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It doesn't it doesn't matter just start as soon as possible.

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Yeah for young people. It's quick

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It's quick. It really I mean every

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every

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minute of some

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sunlight exposure

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You're leveling up like every minute is is an improvement

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So, you know the the cumulative effect

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It just it it it's absolutely amazing at how quickly I can see

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Changes and especially in in kids. I mean it you know, their mitochondria are designed for this

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Yeah, you know all of they like they respond very very quickly to a proper

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00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:24,940
environment

493
00:33:24,940 --> 00:33:31,260
You know where they're not constantly in this cell danger response, you know, all of a sudden their whole biology goes

494
00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:32,460
Oh, okay

495
00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:35,740
All right, we can we can just calm down here

496
00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:37,740
Yeah

497
00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:41,340
No, it's when I think of like a child that grows up

498
00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:43,820
like your sons

499
00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:48,700
These people are going to grow up to be critical thinkers well adjusted

500
00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:50,780
well behaved

501
00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:52,780
really productive

502
00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:54,780
They'll be the one percenters

503
00:33:54,780 --> 00:34:00,380
They'll be the one percenters because you know the the like I said this this is the greatest gift

504
00:34:00,380 --> 00:34:02,780
This is the greatest gift. This is the greatest

505
00:34:03,980 --> 00:34:09,180
You know lifestyle that you could possibly give your kids like it is it is an unfair advantage

506
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,820
compared to

507
00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:15,260
Their peers because if you take a child, you know, unfortunately

508
00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:18,620
And I wish I could save every one of them and I and trust me I try I

509
00:34:19,420 --> 00:34:21,180
of course

510
00:34:21,180 --> 00:34:21,500
You know

511
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:28,400
But when you when you take a kid that's fully addicted to technology and fully circadian dysregulated and fully emotionally

512
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,260
dysregulated

513
00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:38,100
And then you take another child whose nervous system is is you know functioning well whose brain is functioning physically functioning

514
00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:41,460
You can't compare the two you really can't

515
00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:45,940
So it is it this really is an

516
00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:49,140
an unfair advantage in in

517
00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:51,700
today's society

518
00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:53,220
my red pill

519
00:34:53,220 --> 00:34:54,820
was

520
00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:59,060
I was into health for selfish reasons, you know, you want to look look good, whatever

521
00:34:59,780 --> 00:35:00,820
and

522
00:35:00,820 --> 00:35:05,060
When you go into fitness you want to build muscle and stuff and I came across nutrition

523
00:35:05,860 --> 00:35:10,580
as a balancing act you want to be clean with your diet don't dirty bulk

524
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,300
And then so in this nutrition space

525
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:15,860
I discovered west price's work and that

526
00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:22,580
That book is seminal because it really highlighted the contrast between these native people

527
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:24,580
Are super healthy

528
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:26,100
but

529
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:30,420
To the point where it's bizarre and then when these native people move to

530
00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:32,420
Yeah

531
00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:35,940
Superhuman and that's that was normal right?

532
00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:40,900
And then they moved to where the white men as said in the book

533
00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:44,820
They moved to where the white men reside and then they started degenerating

534
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:49,780
like we have and then once I like I was reading the book and

535
00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:52,420
Then I looked up and and went into my everyday life

536
00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:54,500
and I saw

537
00:35:54,500 --> 00:36:00,740
the the consequences of the processed food and now I know the lighting I saw it

538
00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:04,580
everywhere and I realized that what I was

539
00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:07,860
Seeing as normal there was another side to it

540
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:09,780
called

541
00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:11,780
quantum health aligned or

542
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:16,500
Aligned to nature basically and I think of quantum health is like

543
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:21,860
The modernization of what those people have always mastered and have always been naturally

544
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:24,820
You know, it just naturally made sense to them

545
00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:28,580
And so it's integrating technology in the modern lifestyle

546
00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:31,220
into this era, so

547
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:35,060
That book is just amazing for highlighting

548
00:36:35,860 --> 00:36:39,940
The contrast you need to see the contrast because once you like know that

549
00:36:40,580 --> 00:36:43,060
There's people that existed a hundred years ago

550
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:46,420
That were amazing well behaved well adjusted

551
00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:50,100
And then you go out and you see what it is now

552
00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:56,180
The implications are are massive and i'm sure as a dental hygienist

553
00:36:56,980 --> 00:37:01,940
You you've read that book, you know of his work and you you see what i'm seeing right?

554
00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:07,860
Right. The interesting thing about about weston a price is is you know being being in the dental field

555
00:37:07,860 --> 00:37:10,260
I I would I just expected an

556
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:15,700
Assume that every doctor and every dental professional that I that I worked with and that I knew

557
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:18,260
knew of weston a price

558
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:25,940
No, yeah, he's unheard of in the in the dental world and I was like

559
00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:29,620
What like he's the most famous?

560
00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:31,700
dentist

561
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:33,700
Of all time

562
00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:37,540
It's not taught his principles and his his book

563
00:37:37,540 --> 00:37:42,260
None of his work is taught in dental school, which is that's bizarre

564
00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:44,420
Wow

565
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:45,220
Yeah

566
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:46,260
Yeah

567
00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:48,980
Now i've never i have yet to meet a dentist

568
00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:54,340
That was taught weston a price principles in dental school some

569
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:57,940
Biological some you know general dentists

570
00:37:58,420 --> 00:38:03,780
So all biological dentists start out you have to go through, you know conventional dental school

571
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:07,060
And you know, and then some will sort of

572
00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:12,500
You know the light will turn on and they'll leave conventional dentistry to go to biological dentistry

573
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:18,260
And only then will they actually get a little a little taste of weston a price's work

574
00:38:18,820 --> 00:38:21,780
Across the board. It's it's not anything

575
00:38:22,340 --> 00:38:26,260
That is taught to any dental professional at all

576
00:38:27,220 --> 00:38:28,260
Oh, yeah

577
00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:29,620
and then

578
00:38:29,620 --> 00:38:31,620
Jack Kruse comes in and he says

579
00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:32,900
and then

580
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:34,900
Jack Kruse comes in

581
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:36,900
that that very group

582
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:41,540
and just completely flips it on its head, but it makes it so that

583
00:38:42,340 --> 00:38:44,980
Weston a price is still very much right

584
00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:47,220
It's just we have

585
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:48,260
to

586
00:38:48,260 --> 00:38:50,660
Expand our context a little more because

587
00:38:51,380 --> 00:38:52,420
You know

588
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:56,420
If you can replicate the diet you can replicate the nutrients dense foods and all that

589
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:59,300
But those people obviously had

590
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:01,300
a very strong sense of

591
00:39:01,860 --> 00:39:03,860
nature as their foundation

592
00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:06,820
They didn't have technology like we did right?

593
00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:08,660
and so

594
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:10,660
I'm sure you recognize the

595
00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:14,020
like while going from nutrition to quantum

596
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:16,660
That book still holds up even

597
00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:19,220
even more so and

598
00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,460
That's the fascinating part. So could you like give me your take on?

599
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,100
the quantum interpretation

600
00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:28,580
of his work

601
00:39:28,580 --> 00:39:33,540
Foundational, you know food food isn't the primary driver, but food is important

602
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:36,820
The quality of the food is is important and

603
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:38,420
You know

604
00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:39,780
my kids

605
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:41,300
I don't

606
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,300
I don't buy cereal

607
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:45,940
Yeah, I just your your children

608
00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:48,420
within the home

609
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:53,300
Your children will eat what food is available. So if you don't want them to eat cereal

610
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,180
It's really easy

611
00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:58,660
To not buy cereal

612
00:40:00,340 --> 00:40:04,180
You know and I mean my kids grew up

613
00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:09,620
Yeah, I mean I was I was lucky I could I could afford

614
00:40:10,340 --> 00:40:12,180
organic food

615
00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:19,700
And I could afford to seek out, you know highly nutrient dense food, but my kids grew up with

616
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:24,020
With me, you know roasting bone marrow. They my kids

617
00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:26,020
my younger son

618
00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:29,460
Would eat sardines every single day

619
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:34,740
Every single day that was his choice food. That was his go-to

620
00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:37,140
sardines

621
00:40:37,140 --> 00:40:41,060
Every single day and he would he would munch on

622
00:40:41,780 --> 00:40:43,780
His favorite snack

623
00:40:43,860 --> 00:40:48,180
Was a little bowl of frozen peas and frozen corn

624
00:40:48,820 --> 00:40:52,180
Now some could argue corn. Okay, maybe he shouldn't have had corn

625
00:40:52,180 --> 00:40:58,820
I wasn't going to split too many too many hairs with that but you know, so that was like that was his little snack

626
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:03,140
You know or he would love to you know, it went in season

627
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:06,180
You know frozen wild blueberries

628
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:09,940
Were were were just the go-to so

629
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:17,220
You know and I would I would buy I would get the the the bone marrow from the farm and I would actually

630
00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:19,460
Take raw bone marrow

631
00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:22,500
Just scoop it right out of the bone and then I would whip it

632
00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:25,060
with some local

633
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:30,420
cultured butter and make like raw bone marrow butter and so anytime

634
00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:34,980
You know, we would make a steak or anything just slather it in wow

635
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:38,980
In that and my kids grew up having

636
00:41:39,860 --> 00:41:41,060
bone broth

637
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:47,380
You know, I would I would always sort of I always constantly as they were growing up had a crock pot of

638
00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:49,860
of bones going at all time

639
00:41:50,580 --> 00:41:54,980
And you know, they of course my kids they they they love bread

640
00:41:54,980 --> 00:42:00,100
So I had a I had a bread machine and I would I would bake them fresh bread and you know

641
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:05,300
They'd wake up in the morning and basically I would sort of dump the the ingredients

642
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:09,860
Into the bread maker and they'd wake up with a with a fresh hot loaf of bread

643
00:42:11,060 --> 00:42:14,340
I'm lucky. I you know, I I had the time to do it

644
00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:17,380
But it wasn't it wasn't that hard either

645
00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:19,060
You know

646
00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:24,740
It takes the same amount of energy. I think to live this way and to prepare

647
00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:27,540
Foods this way as it does

648
00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:32,180
Other you know other things. Yeah, it's not hard to grill a steak

649
00:42:33,860 --> 00:42:35,860
No, not at all

650
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:39,380
What so your your kids are in college

651
00:42:39,860 --> 00:42:42,260
I'm curious. What are the things that you do?

652
00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:45,300
College i'm curious. What are the first of all?

653
00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:48,660
Are have they dived deep into Dr. Kruse's work?

654
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:51,380
like what do they want to do like

655
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:54,180
their life goal their work

656
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:57,460
Is it something related to that or yes?

657
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:59,860
Okay, so yes

658
00:42:59,860 --> 00:43:01,700
My kids have grown up

659
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:03,220
Honestly

660
00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:06,260
I think maybe they would have thought that Jack Kruse was a family member

661
00:43:06,260 --> 00:43:08,900
I think the term uncle jack

662
00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:13,300
Really played out in this household anyway, because you know

663
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:17,860
We will be out by the pool all day and I would just I would have podcasts just you know

664
00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:20,420
Booming through the through the speaker

665
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,300
So they just they just grew up

666
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:24,500
Wow

667
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:32,020
Osmosis that you know, they just grew up on like having this understanding of sunlight, you know electron

668
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:34,500
Transmitting

669
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:37,140
You know electron transport and

670
00:43:38,260 --> 00:43:39,060
and

671
00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:45,640
Interestingly enough my son logan now. He is a senior at umass and he's studying bioengineering

672
00:43:46,340 --> 00:43:47,220
nice

673
00:43:47,220 --> 00:43:49,140
Which he

674
00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:55,220
I love it. I love it because we can have these real sciencey conversations about

675
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,060
Deuterium about you know, just all of this

676
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,580
bioengineering

677
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:04,820
I I almost feel like today

678
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:11,220
You know if if jack were to be a freshman entering college, he would be a bioengineering major

679
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:19,380
Because it brings together everything. It's it's the biology. It's very physics heavy. It's you know

680
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:26,580
Electrical engineering, you know, it's just it's sort of all of that and and logan now says

681
00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:28,660
mom

682
00:44:28,660 --> 00:44:32,660
When jack speaks he sounds like a bioengineer like he wow

683
00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:36,100
Speaking my language and that is you know

684
00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:41,300
That's sort of all of that bringing the biology and the engineering and the physics

685
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,900
Altogether, which is exactly what jack's work is

686
00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:49,060
So yeah, so logan has a very very deep

687
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:53,060
Deep level understanding of jack's work. He loves it

688
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:55,700
He loves the podcasts

689
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,460
he

690
00:44:57,460 --> 00:45:04,580
Yeah, he was just beyond excited with the Jack Kruse-Rick Rubin podcast. Oh my god

691
00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:05,540
Yeah

692
00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:12,500
He has shared it with his classmates. He had one one classmate this kid christian who was a very very bright kid

693
00:45:12,580 --> 00:45:16,420
He's actually a pre-med his dad is a doctor and he's he's pre-med

694
00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:20,580
And so logan sort of turned him on to jack's work. Nice

695
00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:24,980
He's christian sent logan text the other day and said

696
00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:31,480
Dude, I need to buy you dinner because this information just changed my life

697
00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:36,740
Yes, we did it

698
00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:40,900
You know, so that's what you do like, you know, you bring the young people you you

699
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:49,060
Give them this information and and they're thirsty for it, you know, and and they're open to it. They're they're

700
00:45:49,060 --> 00:45:54,820
Here kids come into this house every kid that comes into this house gets a pair of these

701
00:45:55,300 --> 00:46:00,820
I buy these I buy the box load every kid that comes through the door. I'll I say to everyone

702
00:46:00,980 --> 00:46:03,140
Do you have blue blocking glasses and you know?

703
00:46:03,940 --> 00:46:05,700
If the answer is no

704
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:07,700
At this point they all have them

705
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:12,100
You know, they come into our house and they they see the way that we live

706
00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:16,900
And enough kids have you know spent summers here have traveled with us

707
00:46:17,860 --> 00:46:18,980
and

708
00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:24,180
You know they come in and they love opening the refrigerator where you know, most of the lights are disconnected

709
00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:28,980
But the lights that are there are covered in red tailgate tape. So they open the refrigerator and it's red

710
00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:32,660
you know and and the only light bulbs that are on in this house are

711
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:35,380
red light bulbs at night and

712
00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:42,340
You know kids kids cycle through here all the time using the the red light panels, you know, and

713
00:46:43,460 --> 00:46:44,580
so

714
00:46:44,580 --> 00:46:46,580
I had a group of of

715
00:46:46,580 --> 00:46:52,740
Of boys at the house. I think it was last summer. You know, this is these are probably six or seven

716
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,020
17 18 year old boys and they all stood in the kitchen and they said

717
00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:01,380
Everything you've ever told us is the truth

718
00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:05,140
You never been wrong. Kel you've never been wrong

719
00:47:05,620 --> 00:47:12,100
And so now they all have switched out their bedroom lights to red light bulbs. They all have the blue blockers

720
00:47:12,980 --> 00:47:14,980
it's just it's

721
00:47:14,980 --> 00:47:16,980
a big shift, and I think it's a big shift

722
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,020
I think it's a big shift

723
00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:23,140
I think it's a big shift

724
00:47:24,420 --> 00:47:28,100
If you share the information and you explain

725
00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:35,540
The science and you don't even have to get very deep in the science, but yeah, just explain it. They're very very

726
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:43,060
Open to it. We're on vacation once with actually with morgan logan's friend morgan. Yeah and

727
00:47:43,060 --> 00:47:49,660
on and I was, I just, I wasn't going to, you know, overstep basically. So at the end of

728
00:47:49,660 --> 00:47:57,620
the day, he was, he was sunburned terribly. And I said to him, Hey, you know, do you,

729
00:47:57,620 --> 00:48:02,040
do you understand like why you sunburned today? And he said, yeah, I, you know, I forgot my

730
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:08,180
sunblock and, and I said, no, actually it's far more interesting than that. And he said,

731
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:14,540
sadly. And so I explained to him, you know, blocking the sun and he, he looked at me and

732
00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:20,820
he said, wow, that makes so much sense. Okay. And I said to him, and the way to cure that

733
00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:26,820
sunburn, the antidote to that is you need to be out during the sunset today. And so

734
00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:33,740
he did, he stayed out for sunset. And the next day he was like, wow, wow, like my sunburn

735
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:40,300
is gone. You know, and, and I'm, I've never seen him in sunglasses again.

736
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:48,420
Wow. I'm so glad and happy to hear that there are other 22 year olds that are coming into

737
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:57,080
this stuff. Cause right sometimes I feel like I'm, I'm crazy because I'm like the only one

738
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,260
in my like social circle. People will look at my phone and it's red and they're like,

739
00:49:02,260 --> 00:49:08,660
what the hell? And I'm like, I don't even want to get into it right now. It's explaining

740
00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:15,500
everything, but this is like a bright future that I'm seeing and how your son spread it

741
00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:20,620
to Christian and now Christian's going to become a doctor. He's pre-med and he's going

742
00:49:20,620 --> 00:49:27,740
to have his own ripple effect. And it's just like all coalescing in my mind. It makes me

743
00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:28,740
excited.

744
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:33,220
It's, it's the pebble in the pond, you know, you have to be, you have to be the pebble

745
00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:39,580
in the pond. And I, I feel like that's what Dr. Kruse was for all of us. He was that pebble

746
00:49:39,580 --> 00:49:44,600
in the pond and now there's this, you know, this ripple effect and hopefully it will become

747
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:52,980
a tsunami effect, you know, because this is vital. I mean, this is, this is vital, vital

748
00:49:52,980 --> 00:49:57,940
information and it, it's almost funny to call it, you know, quantum health. It's, it's human

749
00:49:57,940 --> 00:50:08,500
health. Essentially, right? Sort of foundational human health. My in-laws grew up in the Azores,

750
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:15,060
Portuguese islands of the Azores, much like how the 1800s was in this country. They both

751
00:50:15,060 --> 00:50:21,900
grew up. They did not have electricity. They did not have plumbing. They had dirt floor,

752
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:31,540
one room home. And my father-in-law, you know, often told my boys of how when he was a teenager,

753
00:50:31,540 --> 00:50:36,980
he would sleep on the beach and he would wake up to the, to the waves, you know, tickling

754
00:50:36,980 --> 00:50:44,940
his feet. And that the, the Azores, they're volcanic islands. So, you know, when there's

755
00:50:44,940 --> 00:50:49,400
talk of, you know, El Salvador, you know, in, in these, the lava tubes underneath in

756
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,820
these volcanic islands, you know, having very strong magnetism, you know, that was just

757
00:50:54,820 --> 00:51:02,140
an amazing environment for my in-laws to, to grow up in. And they're, they're in their

758
00:51:02,140 --> 00:51:09,220
eighties and they're amazing. They are amazing, you know? And, and I, I feel as though like

759
00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:15,440
just an environment like that built such a robust system that they, that they can move

760
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:21,780
into their, you know, I mean, they're well into their elderly years at this point now.

761
00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:26,940
And they're, they're, they're great. And, you know, my husband's family that, that grew

762
00:51:26,940 --> 00:51:34,500
up that way, you know, they, they all lived to be, to well into their 100s. I mean, my

763
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:43,180
husband's grandfather lived to be 107 and it was a good 107. It wasn't, we have 20 year

764
00:51:43,180 --> 00:51:49,380
olds today that, that wouldn't, couldn't function as well as this, this, you know, man did at

765
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:56,380
107 years old. So there's, there's so much, there's just, there's so much to this and

766
00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:58,060
it's so important.

767
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:05,820
Yeah. I appreciate you highlighting older people because what I hear a lot is a person

768
00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:12,740
is 30 years old and they've gained weight. Their back is hurting all the time. And it's

769
00:52:12,740 --> 00:52:21,460
called getting older now. And I'm like, bro, you're 30, you're 30 years old. Like, why

770
00:52:21,460 --> 00:52:30,660
is that old now? It used to be like 60 turned to 50 for it's coming. And even my 20 year

771
00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:37,460
old friends, they're talking about joint pain too. They're talking, it's creeping down.

772
00:52:37,460 --> 00:52:42,340
And that's why I'm like, hell bent on spreading this stuff because it's only going to keep

773
00:52:42,340 --> 00:52:49,180
getting worse. We've all seen the, the graphs of chronic diseases, every single one of them

774
00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:57,060
in various, you know, body systems, it's all showing an exponential curve. And so what

775
00:52:57,060 --> 00:53:05,300
I'm seeing now, it terrifies me because it's of what I'm going to see. It'll be like teenagers

776
00:53:05,300 --> 00:53:12,100
and I'm sure you with your sons bringing friends, you see the effects in younger people too.

777
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:17,660
And want to really shout out Weston Price again, because he really set the context,

778
00:53:17,660 --> 00:53:26,380
right? The older people that in your in-laws and your sons, you know, they grew up pretty

779
00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:33,900
similarly. One was more primitive and your sons had technology and modern lifestyle integrated

780
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:39,900
in their lifestyle, right? And so you don't need it. It's not fancy. It's just specific.

781
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:44,820
It's very clear and the fruit of it is amazing.

782
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:54,060
Right? Sunlight is free. We all have equal access to it. We all have equal opportunity

783
00:53:54,060 --> 00:54:00,460
to sunlight. It's, you know, whether or not you seize that opportunity, you know, and

784
00:54:00,460 --> 00:54:06,220
that's all, that's all a choice. You know, you, I think, you know, you highlighting this

785
00:54:06,220 --> 00:54:10,780
information and getting this information out there is, is, is vitally important, but it's

786
00:54:10,780 --> 00:54:16,860
also, it's important to take action. It's important to take this information and put

787
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:26,220
it into play, you know, because it is a game changer and it's, it's quick. It's quick.

788
00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:33,980
You know, when I, when I review health histories all day, it can be rather depressing. It really

789
00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:41,620
can because the list of medications for people continues to get longer and longer. And the

790
00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:48,380
patients get younger and younger. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there are children, small children,

791
00:54:48,380 --> 00:54:55,940
seven, eight, nine year olds that are being put on SSRIs and anti-anxiety medications.

792
00:54:55,940 --> 00:55:04,900
And that is, that is just, that is a lifetime. That is just, that's heartbreaking. You know,

793
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:16,380
and I, I, I am also seeing 40, 50 year old people being put on ADHD medications, which,

794
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:23,500
you know, it's really alarming. And so when I review a health history, one of the questions

795
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:28,180
that I ask every single patient, every time I see them is how much time are you spending

796
00:55:28,180 --> 00:55:34,420
outside? And they look at me like, well, that's not on an intake form. Like why do you ask?

797
00:55:34,420 --> 00:55:38,100
And I say, because that is a very important health metric. How much time are you spending

798
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:44,220
outside? And it causes them to actually think to, to, you know, when you, when you actually

799
00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:49,100
have to think to be able to provide an answer, that's when hopefully there's a little bit

800
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:56,740
of recognition. Like I, like, I don't know, maybe, maybe five, 10 minutes a day.

801
00:55:56,740 --> 00:55:57,740
Yeah.

802
00:55:57,740 --> 00:56:04,540
You know? And when they come into my, to my office and the lights aren't on and the computer

803
00:56:04,540 --> 00:56:11,300
screen is red and I have my blue blocking glasses on and most of my patients will remark,

804
00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:19,740
like, what a, what a calm environment it is, you know? And, and it's, I'm not like running

805
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:26,700
spa music and have a fountain in the corner. I mean, it is what it is. It's a, it's a,

806
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:33,460
it's a dental office, right? But, but they feel it. They feel differently when, when

807
00:56:33,460 --> 00:56:40,320
they're in my operatory than when they're in the other parts of the office. And, and

808
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,420
a lot of them are now starting to say that. So if they move from my operatory to the other,

809
00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:53,420
they will say, oh, oh, like those lights are so harsh and oh, it's, it's nice relaxing

810
00:56:53,420 --> 00:56:57,940
in here. And now some patients are even saying like, can you make sure the lights are off

811
00:56:57,940 --> 00:57:01,260
in the other room? Because I don't want to go in there.

812
00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:02,260
Nice.

813
00:57:02,260 --> 00:57:09,300
So, you know, every, just for everyone out there, take every opportunity that you can

814
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:17,420
to share these little bits of, of information because they matter, you know, every, every

815
00:57:17,420 --> 00:57:25,220
opportunity to, to help someone take that opportunity because it matters, you know,

816
00:57:25,220 --> 00:57:32,360
and that's, that's how we're going to, as a society, move forward. That's the only way,

817
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:39,860
you know, is to pay it forward, move it forward and bring everyone with you.

818
00:57:39,860 --> 00:57:47,280
Share that wealth. So we've laid out a lot of stories, right? Of this person's life changing,

819
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:54,180
this person's, let's, let's like give people a quick overview. If you had a client come

820
00:57:54,180 --> 00:58:00,660
in, you see their health history and tell us what you would usually see. Of course,

821
00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:06,860
they'll probably say something like, never see a sunrise. Yeah, I'm on my phone at night.

822
00:58:06,860 --> 00:58:12,340
Technology is everywhere in the house. I don't filter my water. How do you reverse all that?

823
00:58:12,340 --> 00:58:18,860
Like without, you know, giving specific health advice, just the general outline of how we

824
00:58:18,860 --> 00:58:21,620
would implement this stuff.

825
00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:27,080
So I mean, at this point, the people that I interact with, they know me well enough

826
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:34,480
to trust me, which is great, you know, so they trust me. So I can, you know, step forward

827
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:44,880
and say different things. They also witness my health, you know, my mental and physical

828
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:53,980
health is on display. I'm in my mid fifties. My husband is in his mid fifties. And, you

829
00:58:53,980 --> 00:59:03,380
know, we, I feel as though we clearly represent what this lifestyle can do for you, you know,

830
00:59:03,380 --> 00:59:11,380
and, and I, my children as well, my children represent what raising children in this way,

831
00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:20,980
which doesn't require that much extra work, right? So, you know, I like, that's where

832
00:59:20,980 --> 00:59:27,900
I feel like I make the most headway is that, you know, someone sitting in the chair will

833
00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:31,860
say something to me like, Oh, well, that's easy for you. That's easy for you because

834
00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:37,660
you're much younger than I am. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, nah, we're the same age. You know,

835
00:59:37,660 --> 00:59:49,980
and people were like, what? So, you know, it's just being the example, I feel like,

836
00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:56,660
and for my children as well, you know, being the example, because they, people pay attention,

837
00:59:56,660 --> 01:00:03,300
they pay attention to your actions. They pay attention to, to what they're seeing and,

838
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:10,040
you know, all of the, all of that information, they sort of take in and, and, and, you know,

839
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:18,300
it means something basically. So, yeah, you, you, you can, you can like try to argue the

840
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:25,300
information, but you can't argue with the results in time and space. You can never take

841
01:00:25,300 --> 01:00:31,060
that away from someone. The embodiment, the fruits we've bared, that's always ours to

842
01:00:31,060 --> 01:00:36,620
display. And that's ultimately like the ultimate evidence, you know, there's nothing more convincing

843
01:00:36,620 --> 01:00:44,300
than seeing someone in front of you embody that, be that sharp, well adjusted person

844
01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:50,340
than to be that mirror for you. Cause then you realize, well, I'm not that, and it calls

845
01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:56,380
for you to change. Right. Right. Yeah. I think also just sort of, you know, I had a patient

846
01:00:56,380 --> 01:01:02,020
that he was, he was 30 years old and, and when I reviewed his health history, he said,

847
01:01:02,020 --> 01:01:06,940
he said that he had just recently been put on statins. And I said, really? I said, well,

848
01:01:06,940 --> 01:01:13,020
can you explain why? And he said, oh, I don't know. They, they just told me that, you know,

849
01:01:13,020 --> 01:01:19,140
that I should be on them. I said, I said, well, you know, what, what was your, it's

850
01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:24,700
just not that I believe cholesterol really has anything to do with it, but that is the,

851
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:30,460
you know, the conversation basically. I said, well, what, what was your cholesterol? His

852
01:01:30,460 --> 01:01:37,420
cholesterol was under 200 and they put him on statins prophylactically because they said,

853
01:01:37,420 --> 01:01:44,380
well, maybe your cholesterol will go up, you know, now that you're 30 and so you should

854
01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:52,500
be on prophylactically. And he felt horrible on them. And I just looked at him and I said,

855
01:01:52,500 --> 01:02:03,140
like, do you realize you're being poisoned? You know, all of a sudden he was like, yeah.

856
01:02:03,140 --> 01:02:15,020
You know, it's, it's sometimes just sort of pointing out the obvious that maybe they hadn't

857
01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:21,540
thought of. And, you know, when you sort of like shine light on something and go, well,

858
01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:29,020
do you think maybe you should continue that? You know, then they're like, well, maybe I

859
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:30,020
shouldn't.

860
01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:38,220
Yeah. I like the way you, Jack's very just outspoken. Will just does not care. You're

861
01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:45,340
like, you like play along a little bit and then you drop it on that, which is, I appreciate

862
01:02:45,340 --> 01:02:46,340
that too.

863
01:02:46,340 --> 01:02:53,020
It, I find it works. You know, it's my tactic, I guess.

864
01:02:53,020 --> 01:03:01,420
Yeah. So Kelly, what, what drives you to keep spreading this information? Cause I've found

865
01:03:01,420 --> 01:03:08,820
this, this, this stuff has given me purpose in one area of my life. This is, there's,

866
01:03:08,820 --> 01:03:15,140
it's hard to be nihilistic while having a deep sense of a mission and a purpose. And

867
01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:20,700
I'm sure from your lens, being around children, being a mother, it gives you a purpose. So

868
01:03:20,700 --> 01:03:26,500
could you share out, share that with us? You're the thing that drives you to keep putting

869
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:30,100
this forward and forward and keep sharing.

870
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:36,620
Because I know how well it works. I know, as I said earlier, that this is the foundation

871
01:03:36,620 --> 01:03:46,320
of truth and it's, it's reproducible over and over and over. And I will say helping

872
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:57,020
people is the most addictive planet. It really, I mean, talk about like, you know, having

873
01:03:57,020 --> 01:04:05,140
that sense of purpose, that is one of, you know, the life forces for all of us is that,

874
01:04:05,140 --> 01:04:13,780
you know, every day I am serving and that is important. And that is what continues to

875
01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:21,580
give me the energy to just continue to get this message out there because over and over

876
01:04:21,580 --> 01:04:29,020
and over and over again, I have seen this work with everyone, young, old, children,

877
01:04:29,020 --> 01:04:35,380
socioeconomic, Democrat, it does not matter. We are all humans. We are all tied to sunlight.

878
01:04:35,380 --> 01:04:42,980
We are all tied to the earth. And that is not a mistake. That is the divine design.

879
01:04:42,980 --> 01:04:52,020
And you know, now watching my kids sort of bring this forward as well has been insanely

880
01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:59,620
fulfilling. You know, it really, it really is. And just to have people come back to me

881
01:04:59,620 --> 01:05:06,840
over and over and over again, saying, you changed my life. Like you really changed my

882
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:15,140
life and set me on the right sort of trajectory. And just, you know, and sometimes with anyone,

883
01:05:15,140 --> 01:05:18,700
sometimes it is just sort of planting that little seed and sparking that little bit of

884
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:25,940
curiosity and hey, you know, why do not you Google photobiomodulation? Why do not you

885
01:05:25,940 --> 01:05:36,400
Google circadian disruption? And you know, it is just having that purpose in knowing

886
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:46,300
that what you are sharing is changing lives in the most positive, beautiful way. There

887
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:51,860
is just, there is no stopping it. I mean, I will never stop sharing information. I will

888
01:05:51,860 --> 01:06:00,900
never stop seeking information. You know, that is also what just keeps pushing me. You

889
01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:11,540
know, every one of Jack's blogs is a challenge. Those are tough. They are a challenge, but

890
01:06:11,540 --> 01:06:20,500
a challenge in the best possible way. You know, and it is like, okay, let me figure

891
01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:28,620
out what I have to do to sort of get through this information and pull it together and

892
01:06:28,620 --> 01:06:34,020
make my way through this blog. And if it takes reading it 10 times, then it takes reading

893
01:06:34,020 --> 01:06:40,340
it 10 times. If it takes listening to the Rick Rubin podcast three or four times, then

894
01:06:40,340 --> 01:06:46,940
so be it. Because every single time you do, you come away with another little nugget of

895
01:06:46,940 --> 01:06:57,900
like, you know, mind blowing information. And so it is a wonderful quest to be on. And

896
01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:03,500
it is really, really fun. And it is really, really fulfilling to share it.

897
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:10,380
Absolutely. I share a lot of the same sentiments. And I am happy to share your story and pass

898
01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:16,060
it forward for all the, I want to get the young people in on this. It starts with us

899
01:07:16,060 --> 01:07:23,020
and then our kids will be well on their way. So there is...

900
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:27,420
My coaching patients that I work with, and I say to them, there are people out there

901
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:32,620
that are, you know, there are these wealth management firms that teach you generational

902
01:07:32,620 --> 01:07:36,700
wealth. Well, I am here to teach health because...

903
01:07:36,700 --> 01:07:37,700
Well said.

904
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:45,180
...creates a healthy family and so on and so on and so on. And so my quest is for my

905
01:07:45,180 --> 01:07:53,640
future grandchildren, right? You know, so that my kids can be healthy and be able to

906
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:58,800
reproduce because that is getting harder and harder every day as well. You know, and I

907
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:05,820
do not want my family to have to face that. I do not want our family to sort of end. I

908
01:08:05,820 --> 01:08:11,100
mean, that is the ultimate goal of, you know, the birth of every human. The ultimate goal

909
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:20,060
is to reproduce. And we are losing that. And so we are basically losing the progression

910
01:08:20,060 --> 01:08:31,180
of humanity. So, you know, it is... It has become my life's work and my life's, you know,

911
01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:32,980
love of work.

912
01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:44,340
Amen. Yes. So you have a red light panel behind you. And I am curious because, you know, red

913
01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:51,700
light panels are a dime a dozen, but it is rare to have someone that understands this

914
01:08:51,700 --> 01:09:00,580
paradigm and then makes the panel, you know. So how does your red light panel stand out?

915
01:09:00,580 --> 01:09:06,580
How does it positively affect us? Could you give us a quick rundown on that?

916
01:09:06,580 --> 01:09:14,220
So basically, you know, I came into this not from like, oh, let me just like make a product

917
01:09:14,220 --> 01:09:19,740
and sell a pop. It was like, okay, what do I want? What am I looking for with what I

918
01:09:19,740 --> 01:09:26,620
know and what I know that I need and what I know that I want? And I did not find it

919
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:35,300
in what was available. And so with the help of, you know, some good friends and some people

920
01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:40,780
that had, you know, good belief in me and a little poke, like, you should do this. Hey,

921
01:09:40,780 --> 01:09:49,220
you should do this. And I said, you know what? I will do this. And so I did. And I was very

922
01:09:49,220 --> 01:09:55,540
quiet about it for quite a while because I thought, let me just, I need to make sure

923
01:09:55,540 --> 01:10:04,460
that everything is exactly how I want it. And I feel like I'm there. And that's why

924
01:10:04,460 --> 01:10:11,900
I recently, you know, I had been working locally with my patients, having amazing results with

925
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:17,820
implementing photobiomodulation into their lives. Certainly not replacing it, replacing

926
01:10:17,820 --> 01:10:26,540
sunlight in any way, supplementing photonic energy, essentially. And, you know, my patients

927
01:10:26,540 --> 01:10:33,620
responded really, really well. And it's been, you know, again, like another way that I've

928
01:10:33,620 --> 01:10:39,540
been able to enrich people's lives and touch their lives and improve their lives and improve

929
01:10:39,540 --> 01:10:45,860
their health through hard work. And, you know, the panels are, they're very high quality.

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I'm very proud of them. They're very high quality. I test every single one. I don't

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leave anything to chance. You know, trust, verify is a statement that you hear often.

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And I take that very seriously. And so I don't just take a panel and just drop ship to anyone

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in the country, which is exactly why my website isn't up because I have to figure out what

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that will look like for me to be able to maintain the integrity and, you know, the reason why

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I did this. So that's what I'm sort of trying to figure out what that's going to look like.

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But every panel comes to me first. I test it with my meters. I make sure that it is

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safe. And then I distribute to, you know, patients who are looking to use something

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like this, because if that panel isn't safe, it is not providing you with a therapy. You

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know, can actually be damaging. So it's important that when you use something, when you seek

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out something as a therapy, you have to make sure that it is what it is. And I tell patients

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all the time, you wouldn't, light is a medicine and it functions as a medicine within the

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system. It has a biological effect. And you wouldn't go on Amazon and drop ship a prescription

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medication to your home and then use it however you thought maybe, I don't know, maybe you

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take it three times a day. Maybe you take it, you know what I mean? Like, it is very

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specific. It's very nuanced. It requires some thought by a practitioner, by a clinician

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who understands it and understands your circumstance and where you live in your lifestyle and what

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are your acute or chronic conditions that you're concerned with. So, yeah, so that's

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essentially how I work with people at this point. And, you know, it's growing at a rate

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that I could never have expected, which is a wonderful problem to have, right? You know,

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I'm in the process of sort of navigating exactly what that looks like in order for me to maintain

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what I'm comfortable with and what I want this to be for everyone. So at this point,

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people that are interested are emailing me directly and then I am personally interacting

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with people and, you know, working through things with them and getting them exactly

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what they need and teaching them exactly how they should be utilizing photobiomodulation

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as an adjunct to the quantum principles of living this lifestyle.

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Wonderful. Yes, it's been a great 90 minutes. This has been wonderful and thank you for

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like the stories because, you know, I'll have podcasts that are very science centric, but

958
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you need personal experiences as well, right? And you've been surrounded by that both on

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older people of all ages. Like you said, this is the foundation of truth, right? Truth doesn't

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depend on any condition. So that's why it applies to literally anybody from a newborn

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to a 100 year old. This stuff is equally valid and that's why it's so powerful. So.

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Very, very powerful. Indeed. All right, Kelly, well, do you have any last final remarks before

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we close out?

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I said to my mother not long before she passed away and she was, you know, going to live

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in a facility, in a nursing facility. And I said to her, every minute you spend outside

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is a minute longer, you will live. And she said, okay. So I say that to everyone. Every

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minute you spend outside is a minute longer, you will live. It's a, it's a, it's a, you

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are that's how you're gaining health span as well as lifespan by doing so. So I just,

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I stress that to everyone all day, every day, seek the light to keep the light. That's what

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it's all about.

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Love it. Awesome. Well, you guys, that was, that was a blast. I'm definitely going to

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hit Kelly up to probably interview one of her, her sons. I want to interview Morgan

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specifically. He has a hell of a story to share. He really does. He is the poster child.

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Yes he is. What quantum living can do. Yeah. Got to hear it from the man himself. So awesome.

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It's been, it's been a blast, Kelly. And I hope you all had some great takeaways from

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this episode and I hope to see you next time on the lighthouse podcast. Cheers.