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one. We're deep diving into something different

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Gentlemen that we have in podcast today, you

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know he Well, you know what? Let's not even bring

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that story up. Let's let him tell his story before

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we say the answer Let's just start to show you

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ready. That's good. Let's go We're sitting down

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with wrestler graders and underground talent

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making noise their way. This is the Chew and

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Who podcast. Let's get into it. What's going

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on, guys? Welcome back to the Chew and Who podcast.

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I am here with my buddy, Chew. Once again, Balde

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and myself, Mark. We are here for episode, I

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think it's 282. 282, man. Slowly climbing the

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ladder against that 300, man. What are we going

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to do when we hit 300? I don't know. Someone's

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going to get Sparta kicked into a pit. This is

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chewing you. We'll think of something. That'll

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be chewing the pit. But anyways, guys. On today's

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episode, we have a great guest with us. He's

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been on the podcast. I think he's going to be

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number five. There's a lot of fives this season,

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man. We have a lot of fives that are coming in

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this season. He just keeps taking the invites.

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I know, right? He just keeps entering the phone.

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But ladies and gentlemen, tonight on the podcast,

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let us welcome, a .k .a. James Blackcard, Mr.

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Steve J. Babio! Hey, welcome. Welcome to the

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podcast. Yeah, thanks for having me, brother.

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It's been, it's been a man. Last time we had

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you, I think you weren't, the last time we chatted

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was with the trio. The trio was here and we had

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a chit chat, man. There was, after the whole

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interview, I didn't realize. who the person on

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the video was uh from uh cross where he was over

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in station somewhere else oh yeah jay uh david

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david james yeah yeah i didn't know who dj are

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like holy shit that's dj i shouldn't remember

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the damn voice for the first time i interviewed

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him back in the old street yeah so the whole

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the whole time i thought you knew yeah yeah i

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was like oh come on yeah yeah i did until later

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on i wrote back to listen i like listening to

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the podcast From now on, everyone's going to

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have to say where they're from. Right. And when

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I heard his voice, I'm like, wait a minute, I've

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heard his voice before. So I go to like episode,

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I think it was episode seven or eight. We spoke

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to him three times. And I go, holy crap, this

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is him. I go, I should have that photo, too.

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There's about five of us. Yeah, down by over

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there. other hallway yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

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you gotta bring that back we'll hang that sucker

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up i think that's what we're gonna start doing

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trying to get all our guests previous pictures

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and start put them on the wall one by one all

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the previous guests oh kalash yeah yeah kalash

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get on it but anyways But we have you on the

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pod bro. I know it's been a minute since we had

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you the last time that was here A lot has changed.

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Oh, yeah I mean, let's start first of all, let's

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reintroduce you to the podcast on our fans here

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So start from the game tell me where you are

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where you from and where you grew up. Let's go

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So my name is Steven James by the you I'm originally

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from Alamo, Texas Somehow Throughout my life.

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I managed to go one end of the world to the other

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and then find wrestling in the process Or get

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back in touch with wrestling and become a wrestler

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in the process, right? And that's led me to being

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on the two new podcast well it's a great always

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a great time of pleasure to be here so yeah so

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the time time has passed for a while man uh i

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know the last time i told you were wrestling

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for a different uh different promotion and you

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were jumping from promotion to junior thing then

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all of a sudden you know take us take us to that

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story man what's going on what i mean how How

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do we get here? Well, I mean, everybody's been

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asking, hey, have you heard about James? Have

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you heard about what's going on on his neck of

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the woods? Where is he? He's missing. He's dropped

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off the face of the earth. What's going on, man?

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Talk to the reason for getting off the socials

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was not the same as leaving wrestling. OK, but

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I left wrestling. I mean, there's a number of

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reasons, but ultimately. Just felt to disconnect.

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Okay, you know just there's a disconnect happening

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and At least locally okay, and then With what

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I was more focused on you know trying to keep

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climbing that mountain and go to bigger bigger

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places bigger venues bigger promotions right

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right that requires a lot more resources mm -hmm,

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and that's something that you kind of learn along

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the way along the process and a That to make

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the decision to gather those resources, right?

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And I decided well, I'll just work the local

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and then so I was gonna work the local And I

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just wasn't feeling it not vibing Okay, and I

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said it to the last time guys that I was here

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on the on the podcast, right? If you're showing

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up on Sunday or Friday Saturday, whatever it

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is, you know to your local venue and you're doing

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the show and That's if that's all you want if

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that's all you're gonna do might as well just

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go home because you're already there So I went

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home. What am I doing? Do you feel like maybe

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it was more like a like a reset or something?

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Something you just have to step back and say,

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hey, let me calculate what I'm doing in my life

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or what? It was that and I'll tell you what I

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because it's a very impulsive decision. Well,

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not that it was impulsive, but it was a string

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of things, and then it was like that little straw

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that broke the camel's back. Type of deal. And

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so I decided, you know what? I'm out. And I initially

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thought, I'm out for good. And after a couple

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days, I chilled out. I was like, OK, well, you

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know what? Maybe just a couple months, maybe

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six months, seven months. But now I mean there's

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things I'm working on now have ideas I have plans

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and So each kind of day that passes now The return

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to wrestling just kind of becomes less and less

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and less a priority. Okay So I don't really know

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where I'm at with that And the weird thing is

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what you say while you're saying that it I mean

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not to compare because I mean I could never compare

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myself to being a wrestler or being anything

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anything else and I'm and like always the first

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person that kicks in Martin Gorman saying well,

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well I'm glad I'm glad to hear from Martin cuz

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I one of the last matches I had Probably the

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last time that I worked for for do not text was

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wrestling. Mm -hmm. I got to work Martin in the

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match and Hey, he passed with me flying colors.

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He did a great job. There you go Let me a little

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bumps and bruises. You know what? I mean and

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and a great guy man. Good job Martin Not for

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him. Not for him. I got a couple receipts that

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if I ever come back, I would like to dish out.

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But he's good. He's good. You're in the clear,

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Martin. You can turn off the show now. But yeah,

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I like us going back to that. What I'm trying

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to say is like, I can't compare myself to a wrestler.

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But as far as like something like a career that,

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you know, you you love it, you thrive for it.

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And when you thrive for so much. When you first

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start it's fun. It's fun. You have fun with it

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You know what I mean, and then all of a sudden

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it feels like a job Afterwards you're having

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the fun, but now it's like well you have it you

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have to do it now it is a job and it is a career

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right and I Mean, I don't know about up north,

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but I think for a lot like the majority of wrestlers

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How I was talking about those resources mm -hmm

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that That's like part of the business of wrestling

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and those things you often don't get taught and

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you have to learn it as it's happening. So learning

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and the brand new like feeling of wrestling and

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being a wrestler and going out and doing your

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thing. It feels like a sport like you're going

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out Friday night football doing your best, you

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know for the crowd whoever and it feels like

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a sport. But at the end of the day, it's a business,

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and it's all about that cash money. Right. I

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got you. I got you. I don't understand. So you're

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not really burned out on it. You just kind of

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sort of need to step away from it to do business.

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I did feel burned out. And I don't mean that

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it was too much of a business for me. But what

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I'm saying is like those resources and everything

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that I was talking about. You gotta take the

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time to learn the business, to have the adequate

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resources to do what you gotta do to keep climbing

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that mountain. To keep being relevant, to keep

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going to more relevant places. And that's very

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challenging, I feel, is the most challenging

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part. And Martin already commented, finally,

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some respect. Okay, Martin, don't push the button,

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Martin, please. Maybe one receipt, maybe. Here

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we go But yeah, so you're doing it. I guess you

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can say it's like a revamp for yourself something

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that you know, hey, let's let me look back on

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everything that I've done and Is there a certain

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change you want it? I mean, we don't expect you

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to come back next week We don't expect you two

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months out. Is it something like you know what?

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I just need time off to Gather What i've done

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and how to just like exactly like like marty

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says right here He needs a reset. It's a reset

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pretty much right exactly. Uh, I would I would

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like to have that frame of mind and I do I do

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have it I just can't confidently say like hey,

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well after this amount of time You know, i'll

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feel like I want to get back or I can't say like

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after this amount of time I plan to wrestle again

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um It's just i've develop like plans for myself

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and things I want to do right and it's like I

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just can't say when or if I'm sure one day I

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would like to at least have a retirement match

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or to say this is my last match for whoever cares

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But at the moment, I just can't say, like, I

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need this much time or anything like that. No,

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I hear you. I do hear what you're trying to say,

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man. And yeah, sometimes it's stuff that you

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love to do. You just need to step back and just,

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you know, you need a reset. Yeah. And sometimes,

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you know, I've told a lot of young musicians

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that come in and go, hey, it's great. You want

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to be a musician? That's awesome, man. That's

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your career. That's you wanted. That's number

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one. But then you hear my parents in the background

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have a backup plan. You know, you need to have

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a backup plan. And I think for right now, for

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what I've been hearing so far from what Stephen

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has been saying is like. he needs that backup

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plan because I'm not going to say you can't because

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you probably still can but you're running your

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50s already you're running in your 55 your 60

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hey uh you need that backup plan oh yeah I mean

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he's right you need to pay taxes you need to

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file taxes you need to deliver newspaper something

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uh no I mean it's and and as far as that because

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that's a not a different venture because I do

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have a plan like because I need to work towards

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a retirement right But like the, and that's kind

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of like on this road. But I'm working on other

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things still for entertainment and still for

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outside of what I would call real people work.

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Yeah, that's what I was trying to identify. Yeah,

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yeah. Cause I have like that route of like legitimate,

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like clock in and clock out. But I do have more,

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you know, side ventures to pursue. outside of

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wrestling, that hopefully if everything goes

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well, you know, I can just combine wrestling

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with all that. And then that would be the scenario

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where I feel like, ah, that would be the time

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to go back. It's just hard to put a timeline

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on it. Exactly. I mean, I think that's everybody's

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dream to have everything all in one shot. All

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in one plate, you know, one big serving. You

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know what I mean? Yeah, if I could go back to...

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Man even just two or three years ago and just

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tell my cuz I refuse to take like time off at

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points cuz I Like you don't stop wrestling you

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want to stop wrestling. You're not important.

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You're not relevant. You're out of the game like

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blah blah blah blah and That's thinking of the

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mindset of always climbing the mountain climbing

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the mountain climbing the mountain But Looking

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at it from the business standpoint now that I

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that I now look at it It's okay to take those

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breaks and people told me it's okay to take the

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time off It's okay to do what you got to do,

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right? But you know in your brain you're like,

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no. No, I gotta keep going So if anyone out there

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is listening take that break, it's okay. Do what

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you gotta do man. Come back better Yeah, it's

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it's like it's like it's like Marty says it's

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literally a hard reset Yeah, that's the way you

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look at it. Yeah, because nothing's worse than

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burning out on the thing that you love Exactly.

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Exactly. And people are probably looking I I

00:14:49.889 --> 00:14:51.590
know people that know me right now. Well, yeah,

00:14:51.850 --> 00:15:03.879
look at you man. Take the recent Walk away So

00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:06.899
as far as now that you have more time in your

00:15:06.899 --> 00:15:09.100
hands than you're doing right now, do you see

00:15:09.100 --> 00:15:11.840
a different perspective of it now as far as like

00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:16.220
looking from the outside in now? Certain things

00:15:16.220 --> 00:15:23.240
I know. Some of it good, some of it bad. Like

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now that I'm looking at it from the business

00:15:24.580 --> 00:15:28.679
standpoint, I can see where... former disagreements

00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.000
that not disagreements But I just didn't agree

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with the way things would be done and now it's

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like okay I understand because you got to do

00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:43.460
that thing and then In other aspects The direction

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that I that professional wrestling is taking

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as a whole as an entire Entertainment business

00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:55.679
kind of not digging it And this is where like

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The old school part of me kicks in is because

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I'm under the impression or at least I get the

00:16:03.090 --> 00:16:07.490
impression That the popular mainstream wrestling

00:16:07.490 --> 00:16:12.610
is not about the storytelling anymore It's just

00:16:12.610 --> 00:16:15.110
athleticism and go do some flips and jump around

00:16:15.110 --> 00:16:18.529
and get some air cut a shitty promo and go to

00:16:18.529 --> 00:16:21.409
the back and That's what people want to see now

00:16:21.549 --> 00:16:23.529
Oh, I get what you're saying. You know what I

00:16:23.529 --> 00:16:26.070
mean? It's more of a spectacle now than anything.

00:16:26.070 --> 00:16:30.250
Yeah, we're not getting that Brian Pillman and

00:16:30.250 --> 00:16:32.950
Steve Austin storytelling where he brings out

00:16:32.950 --> 00:16:35.529
the pistol and then, oh, what just happened?

00:16:35.629 --> 00:16:38.590
You know what I mean? There's no more of that.

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I'm not telling people to bust out firearms on

00:16:41.110 --> 00:16:44.730
the show, but the storytelling, the drama, everything,

00:16:45.769 --> 00:16:52.139
this is not there anymore. The direction that

00:16:52.139 --> 00:16:55.080
the business as a whole has taken is much more.

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I think athleticism based than anything else

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and Not that I mean some of these guys are really

00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:09.180
good the younger cats Because I'm I've trained

00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:14.119
my body to be The way I am presently a lot of

00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.220
that stuff is hard for me Not to say that I wouldn't

00:17:17.220 --> 00:17:19.920
like to do that It's just harder for me and like

00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:22.799
I'll admit that you're more of a brawler. Yeah.

00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:24.700
Yeah, I see you in the ring and you're more of

00:17:24.700 --> 00:17:27.420
like, you know, all had this go bar brawl. Yeah.

00:17:27.779 --> 00:17:30.480
So, so yeah, not not to like peel back, you know,

00:17:30.539 --> 00:17:32.160
the curtain and tell everyone the way the matches

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work, but it's like, man, I hate going to the

00:17:35.940 --> 00:17:39.440
back and to, you know, you're trying to put put

00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.480
your match together and you're trying to remember

00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:47.269
like 20 different, you know, maneuvers like we're

00:17:47.269 --> 00:17:49.670
not just but you we know the maneuvers, but it's

00:17:49.670 --> 00:17:54.190
like the orders like the planning the smallest

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details of the match right and Then putting like

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these whole spot the whole spot together And

00:18:00.269 --> 00:18:02.329
so you're memorizing the entire match rather

00:18:02.329 --> 00:18:04.809
than going out there and feeling it listening

00:18:04.809 --> 00:18:08.410
to the crowd A little bit more old -school. I

00:18:08.410 --> 00:18:10.269
got you where you know figure out how to get

00:18:10.269 --> 00:18:13.950
to the next thing, right? because I hate remembering

00:18:13.950 --> 00:18:16.730
all that shit. To me, it doesn't make it believable

00:18:16.730 --> 00:18:18.829
because you're not worried about the crowd's

00:18:18.829 --> 00:18:20.369
reaction. You're worried about not forgetting.

00:18:21.309 --> 00:18:25.529
Yeah. And so for me, it's just like that. I got

00:18:25.529 --> 00:18:28.890
you. You know, I always play with the thought,

00:18:28.930 --> 00:18:31.029
you know, that a lot of the promotions that are

00:18:31.029 --> 00:18:33.589
down here, they're great, man. I love going out

00:18:33.589 --> 00:18:35.690
there and watching it. Now you got some promotions

00:18:35.690 --> 00:18:39.970
showing it. YouTube live or live on Facebook

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where you can go and watch the the shows and

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they're fun to watch but the trend to me And

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this is just an idea. I mean there's During the

00:18:51.269 --> 00:18:55.230
week or before you're all done doing the the

00:18:55.230 --> 00:18:58.690
the ring everything out there cut promos Before

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each match. Yeah toss them out there in that

00:19:00.869 --> 00:19:03.170
because like like for and I'm just throwing out

00:19:03.170 --> 00:19:06.890
there like a new breed they had this big screen

00:19:06.890 --> 00:19:08.930
in the back before a match start they should

00:19:08.930 --> 00:19:14.789
have like a pre -interview before they I barked

00:19:14.789 --> 00:19:18.569
up that tree man They'll tell you that I had

00:19:18.569 --> 00:19:20.869
them but I've definitely brought that up. Yeah,

00:19:20.910 --> 00:19:24.660
and and it's kind of like okay. Well Like I would

00:19:24.660 --> 00:19:27.039
cut my promos and one time I was able to get

00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:30.180
my promo up there because it was an unadvertised

00:19:30.180 --> 00:19:32.779
match. We had to change the script, the card

00:19:32.779 --> 00:19:36.700
last minute. So prior to the show I cut the promo

00:19:36.700 --> 00:19:42.299
and hats off to the landmark crew because they

00:19:42.299 --> 00:19:44.819
were like scrambling, connecting this wire to

00:19:44.819 --> 00:19:47.619
that monitor and doing this and doing that just

00:19:47.619 --> 00:19:51.710
to get that promo right on the screen right uh

00:19:51.710 --> 00:19:53.670
at the beginning of the show right right right

00:19:53.670 --> 00:19:55.890
you know um i got you and maybe that's why they

00:19:55.890 --> 00:19:58.369
don't do it right yeah and i got beefy boy beefy

00:19:58.369 --> 00:20:01.670
boy bro saying old school nwa style yeah yeah

00:20:01.670 --> 00:20:04.410
yeah that's basically it i mean something like

00:20:04.410 --> 00:20:06.450
that even you know has to be like at the moment

00:20:06.450 --> 00:20:09.230
before the match i mean it could be pre -recorded

00:20:09.230 --> 00:20:11.210
where it could just be uploaded up there and

00:20:11.210 --> 00:20:13.990
then they walk in yeah but i mean that's something

00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:17.779
But it would be a story set up for the entire

00:20:17.779 --> 00:20:21.900
season. Exactly. I can tell you right now that

00:20:21.900 --> 00:20:24.599
the promoters do harp on the talent to cut those

00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:27.759
promos, get them turned in. Not so that they're

00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:29.660
going to put them on show day on the screen,

00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.200
but at least so they can get out there into the

00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.559
algorithms of the social media. I would like

00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:38.740
to see them at the show on the screen. You have

00:20:38.740 --> 00:20:42.470
your three minute. promo prior to the match still

00:20:42.470 --> 00:20:45.170
the fans know like oh it's gonna be the the latter

00:20:45.170 --> 00:20:47.690
match next it's gonna be this match right right

00:20:47.869 --> 00:20:52.529
But for a first -time fan, we'll see the promos

00:20:52.529 --> 00:20:54.390
and everything and be like, oh, this is why they're

00:20:54.390 --> 00:20:56.690
fighting. This is why these guys don't like each

00:20:56.690 --> 00:20:58.130
other. Exactly. No, I hear you. I hear you. You

00:20:58.130 --> 00:21:00.650
know what I mean? Yeah. Danny's finally channeled

00:21:00.650 --> 00:21:04.250
in right now. James indeed has. It's just hard

00:21:04.250 --> 00:21:06.509
for timing. It's all live -streaming delays.

00:21:06.890 --> 00:21:09.549
Yeah. And I totally agree with you, Danny. It

00:21:09.549 --> 00:21:12.769
is kind of tough, especially that guy. I just

00:21:12.769 --> 00:21:15.160
agree with you, Danny. Did you hear that shit

00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:17.680
again? Stuff could happen if you really wanted

00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:21.019
to, Danny. Danny, I'll give you his address and

00:21:21.019 --> 00:21:26.700
you can knock the shit out of him again. Well,

00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:31.019
my question is like, I mean, is this more, is

00:21:31.019 --> 00:21:33.339
this because of what management wants? Is this

00:21:33.339 --> 00:21:37.720
what the audience wants? What's funny? What's

00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:40.859
making the shift towards this more spectacle

00:21:40.859 --> 00:21:43.640
based? I can understand what Danny's saying as

00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:45.220
far as the timing, the lag and all that. Yeah,

00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.440
I totally understand that. Just agree? No, I

00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:50.359
agree with Danny. He probably explained that

00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:53.240
to me before. Yeah. Okay. Like, honestly, he

00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:55.420
probably did and I just may not remember. Yeah,

00:21:55.420 --> 00:21:58.480
you know, and I understand that, but the way

00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:00.319
James explains it, I told him, I hear what you're

00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:07.579
saying, Daddy, even if you had someone of a movie

00:22:07.579 --> 00:22:13.079
video editor, pointing here, send those and take

00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.500
off the live stream, reboot it. Put those little

00:22:16.500 --> 00:22:18.799
intros before every match that way the fan who's

00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.079
watching knows what what's going on? Why these

00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:22.920
fights bad and why it was the big beef between

00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.279
these guys that little history in between But

00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:26.940
I could understand the live because even a lot

00:22:26.940 --> 00:22:31.500
of it even if you watch a lot of it WWE or even

00:22:31.500 --> 00:22:34.500
WCW even be way back in the day. They've got

00:22:34.500 --> 00:22:37.339
the grace to cut to commercial if anything happens

00:22:37.339 --> 00:22:40.900
Exactly. That's true. You would look at that.

00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:42.980
Everything's pre -recorded. You know when you're

00:22:42.980 --> 00:22:45.519
there live you don't even see that in the teleprompter

00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:47.940
they just go they just go but if you're watching

00:22:47.940 --> 00:22:50.769
at home you're gonna see Why there's a big beef

00:22:50.769 --> 00:22:53.450
going on between the these two characters in

00:22:53.450 --> 00:22:55.369
the ring? Yeah, you know what what's going on?

00:22:55.410 --> 00:22:57.589
So I told I totally understand that. I enjoyed

00:22:57.589 --> 00:23:00.250
those those. Oh, remember what happened last

00:23:00.250 --> 00:23:03.190
week? You know? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Last week

00:23:03.190 --> 00:23:07.789
on Raw. Exactly. And I totally understand. And

00:23:07.789 --> 00:23:10.069
he goes, he goes, Daddy, I'd say it again. He

00:23:10.069 --> 00:23:12.849
goes, it's just the delay. The setup isn't directly

00:23:12.849 --> 00:23:14.970
on the screen, but taking from the different

00:23:14.970 --> 00:23:18.069
laptop is, yeah, dude, I understand total technology.

00:23:18.150 --> 00:23:20.140
Yeah, I understand. what you're saying, and especially

00:23:20.140 --> 00:23:21.680
the guests don't know what the hell are going

00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.140
on. You're like sweating bullets. We cannot lose

00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:26.920
the focus of the guests. The fans that are there,

00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:28.660
I totally understand. I totally understand. I

00:23:28.660 --> 00:23:30.660
don't really disagree with you, Danny. I'm just

00:23:30.660 --> 00:23:32.900
being contrary. Now he's playing that you don't

00:23:32.900 --> 00:23:34.180
go to his house and beat the shit out of him,

00:23:34.339 --> 00:23:37.420
Danny. You don't really care about me, Danny.

00:23:38.579 --> 00:23:40.000
And we got questions coming out left to right.

00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:43.380
Since NWA has their promos just right next to

00:23:43.380 --> 00:23:45.839
the ring. So after the match, they could do a

00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:48.099
cut of promo. Well, yeah, I mean, that's true.

00:23:48.269 --> 00:23:50.910
I mean, don't get it wrong, there's some of the

00:23:50.910 --> 00:23:52.769
matches that I've gone and watched and they do

00:23:52.769 --> 00:23:55.549
cut promos afterwards or they walk to the top

00:23:55.549 --> 00:23:57.670
of the stage and they say something. You know,

00:23:57.730 --> 00:24:01.769
I've seen that live and it's awesome. So there's

00:24:01.769 --> 00:24:05.730
some promotions and they post it on whatever

00:24:05.730 --> 00:24:08.970
streaming service they'll use, whether it's like

00:24:08.970 --> 00:24:12.630
Twitch or... Man, I can't even... There's another

00:24:12.630 --> 00:24:15.329
popular one and I'm really not... Remember those

00:24:15.329 --> 00:24:19.990
internet things. Yeah, but uh What they'll do

00:24:19.990 --> 00:24:22.750
is they'll do the match and as the talent makes

00:24:22.750 --> 00:24:27.430
their way to the backstage area When they when

00:24:27.430 --> 00:24:29.490
they go through the through the walkway to the

00:24:29.490 --> 00:24:33.910
back they'll get to a like a a promo station

00:24:33.910 --> 00:24:36.990
There's a guy with a camera and they will not

00:24:36.990 --> 00:24:39.970
let you pass until you cut your post -match promo

00:24:39.970 --> 00:24:44.549
No, no questions. No nothing you just had your

00:24:44.549 --> 00:24:48.190
match tell us what's in your head right and you

00:24:48.190 --> 00:24:53.390
cut that promo and if it's you know most of the

00:24:53.390 --> 00:24:54.950
time they'll just do the one take if it's good

00:24:54.950 --> 00:24:57.329
they'll post it if not good luck better luck

00:24:57.329 --> 00:24:59.630
next time exactly you know what i mean exactly

00:24:59.630 --> 00:25:02.710
uh but they do have that you know routine your

00:25:02.710 --> 00:25:04.890
match go to the back and cut your promo Yeah,

00:25:04.890 --> 00:25:06.630
I hear you. I mean, there's so there's so many

00:25:06.630 --> 00:25:09.710
ideas you can play with, bro. You know, and so

00:25:09.710 --> 00:25:12.529
many it's really up to, you know, how it's going

00:25:12.529 --> 00:25:14.609
to get done, who's going to do it and can we

00:25:14.609 --> 00:25:17.230
do it on time to where it's going to fit in the

00:25:17.230 --> 00:25:19.529
show and go, come on, you cannot compete with

00:25:19.529 --> 00:25:23.630
these huge promotions that have all this monitors

00:25:23.630 --> 00:25:25.890
rated at 100 miles per hour. You're never going

00:25:25.890 --> 00:25:28.910
to compete with a big company. You know, you

00:25:28.910 --> 00:25:31.880
work with your own little niche, but. You could

00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:36.960
do your own thing, but again like honestly for

00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.519
something like that to happen with the Pre or

00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:42.619
post -match promos, right as far as being on

00:25:42.619 --> 00:25:46.339
screen During the show. Mm -hmm. I think you

00:25:46.339 --> 00:25:49.740
would have to come that could be more likely

00:25:49.740 --> 00:25:53.619
more Feasible if it happened at CNET or at citrus,

00:25:53.619 --> 00:25:56.119
right? Just because the production setup is probably

00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:58.599
a little bit more like easier to work with. Yeah

00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:01.660
the acoustics in there just amazing they're amazing

00:26:01.660 --> 00:26:05.980
especially those those chops man jesus christ

00:26:05.980 --> 00:26:11.200
those suckers echo yeah no kidding man so now

00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:13.460
it's been a while since you've been in the ring

00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:16.279
uh how long how long are we talking already more

00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:19.279
or less uh actually it feels a lot longer than

00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.759
it's been i think my last match ended up being

00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.960
uh the contract for the devil ladder match for

00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:30.900
combat cult wrestling And that match was January,

00:26:31.619 --> 00:26:34.740
like the second week of January, I want to say,

00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:38.279
first or second week. So whenever that was. All

00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:42.019
right. No, January 3rd. Oh, January 3rd. Because

00:26:42.019 --> 00:26:44.940
I wrestled Carlito for Citrus on the 2nd, or

00:26:44.940 --> 00:26:47.339
maybe it was the 4th. I think the 2nd was on

00:26:47.339 --> 00:26:50.059
a Friday, the 4th was on a Sunday, whatever day

00:26:50.059 --> 00:26:52.480
that was, but that was when it was. That's badass,

00:26:52.700 --> 00:26:55.779
dude. I got Jose Martinez saying, yo, black heart.

00:26:58.670 --> 00:27:01.970
But uh, yeah, man, that's it's crazy bro, cuz

00:27:01.970 --> 00:27:06.569
I mean now that you're Right now. It's not messy

00:27:06.569 --> 00:27:10.349
completely gone. I mean, but have you? Gone to

00:27:10.349 --> 00:27:13.109
any not just just to go watch or have you watched

00:27:13.109 --> 00:27:16.730
any online to say? Oh, man, I watched my last

00:27:16.730 --> 00:27:19.210
match Mm -hmm, but I haven't watched anything

00:27:19.210 --> 00:27:22.289
else. I've watched a little bit of whatever is

00:27:22.289 --> 00:27:27.279
on TV But I'm really not enjoying it So I'm not

00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.380
in the loop. I gotcha, I gotcha. Yeah, I know.

00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.039
Well, you've also disconnected your social media.

00:27:33.299 --> 00:27:37.140
Yeah. Well, I disconnected Instagram because

00:27:37.140 --> 00:27:39.960
the reset from wrestling, because that's all

00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:44.039
I see is wrestling, right? Yeah. Facebook was

00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:48.099
different. I'm not going to get too into it because

00:27:48.099 --> 00:27:51.839
it's like sensitive. But there's just so much

00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:55.480
negativity in the world. Yeah. And anytime I

00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:58.279
get on, that's all I see. I think that's been

00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:03.420
happening a lot, bro. And ultimately, I feel

00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:05.940
like everyone is just mad at the wrong people.

00:28:08.180 --> 00:28:09.900
And like I said, I don't want to get into it,

00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:15.440
but us as a human race, that should be, I feel

00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.839
the only race that really matters, us as humans.

00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.619
And there's evil out there. It is what it is.

00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.059
And I feel like we're just putting the frustration

00:28:26.059 --> 00:28:28.740
and all the negativity that we feel towards,

00:28:28.740 --> 00:28:31.819
you know, pointing fingers to the wrong people

00:28:31.819 --> 00:28:34.000
instead of to, you know, the people who are actually

00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.660
pulling the strings. Right, right, right. So

00:28:37.660 --> 00:28:43.700
I just got off of that. It's been... I know a

00:28:43.700 --> 00:28:46.180
couple of people that it has really, really...

00:28:46.349 --> 00:28:49.049
Yeah, it takes effect. It's an emotional effect

00:28:49.049 --> 00:28:52.650
and I don't want to dive into it because it can

00:28:52.650 --> 00:28:55.289
go really quick. I think all of us are affected

00:28:55.289 --> 00:28:57.670
by something one way or another, right? You know

00:28:57.670 --> 00:29:00.049
what I mean? Right, right. And you know, it's

00:29:00.049 --> 00:29:02.750
tearing friendships apart, families apart, relationships,

00:29:03.009 --> 00:29:07.740
everything and it's just with a I just felt I

00:29:07.740 --> 00:29:10.359
didn't need that right you know right yeah I

00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.819
understand yeah I got Fernando our last week

00:29:12.819 --> 00:29:16.599
guest popping in saying saludos hey man I hope

00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:18.319
you like those trailers with the wrestlers driving

00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.599
that bus amazing by the way great story great

00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.519
story but uh we're gonna get I gotta have to

00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.440
give you a call later down the line because we

00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:31.170
need to talk We still have so many quick questions.

00:29:31.269 --> 00:29:33.750
A lot of questions. The mask and the cape. I

00:29:33.750 --> 00:29:34.789
want to know what the hell that happened. Why

00:29:34.789 --> 00:29:38.269
not a cape? Why not a cape? But I got Bibi Bro

00:29:38.269 --> 00:29:41.670
saying, good artist borrow, great artist steal.

00:29:42.269 --> 00:29:44.210
Pablo Picasso steal. All the great ideas from

00:29:44.210 --> 00:29:47.170
the major promotions. I got Chris Austin jumping

00:29:47.170 --> 00:29:50.630
on. Here's it, brother. He goes, you shit on

00:29:50.630 --> 00:29:54.029
the URTBJ all season and all the negativity is

00:29:54.029 --> 00:29:57.740
there. It's black card. Okay, sure. why not um

00:29:57.740 --> 00:30:07.299
real quick thoughts on the what mon talk mon

00:30:07.299 --> 00:30:11.039
talk project mon talk project i don't i don't

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know i don't know about that that's an inside

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thing i don't know details what's i don't want

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to know what's that say case back up there for

00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:25.160
you mon talk project mon talk project Interesting.

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Well, fuck, you can't DM me. But if you ever

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00:34:16.110 --> 00:34:18.590
man. I keep Steven James when everyone works

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.780
A lot of stuff has been happening. I know you

00:34:31.780 --> 00:34:34.519
say that you're not really watching, you're watching

00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.420
regular wrestling on TV right now or anything

00:34:37.420 --> 00:34:39.539
like that at the moment with the whole AJ Styles

00:34:39.539 --> 00:34:42.059
thing that's happening now. I have no idea what's

00:34:42.059 --> 00:34:44.719
happening with AJ Styles. Well, supposedly now

00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.699
he is actually gonna be one of the first, I think

00:34:47.699 --> 00:34:50.340
he's one of the first inductees to the Wrestling

00:34:50.340 --> 00:34:53.119
Hall of Fame. Undertaker came into this ring

00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:56.019
and actually said, hey, we're putting you in.

00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.239
So he's got to go. He got to get into the Hall

00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.960
of Fame of wrestling now. So for like for this

00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.320
year, for this year, this year's batch. So yeah,

00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.920
the way my buddy says the seventy sevens, I guess

00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:11.739
you could say that. But who's your who's your

00:35:11.739 --> 00:35:13.199
favorite wrestler, man? I mean, I mean, we never

00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.619
really touched base on. I know you say most of

00:35:15.619 --> 00:35:20.059
the time it's the Steve Austin era that the attitude

00:35:20.059 --> 00:35:23.739
era. But which is one that you really say you're

00:35:23.739 --> 00:35:27.289
kind of. walking the walk in that direction.

00:35:28.289 --> 00:35:32.909
What would you say, bro, when you first started

00:35:32.909 --> 00:35:43.409
wrestling? I think as a performer, I think one

00:35:43.409 --> 00:35:45.869
of the favorite wrestlers who has the most impact

00:35:45.869 --> 00:35:50.030
on the way I do things is Triple H. Really? Yeah.

00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.619
Simple offense, you know what I mean? But what

00:35:56.619 --> 00:36:00.340
I take the most from him is He sells like crazy

00:36:00.340 --> 00:36:02.239
for everybody man, and I think a lot of people

00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:06.659
don't actually like catch that but Going back

00:36:06.659 --> 00:36:09.619
and watching a lot of his stuff He does sell

00:36:09.619 --> 00:36:13.280
for his like opponents like Like he gets him

00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.940
over to the point so that when he does his heel

00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:19.679
shit at the end Because you really felt like,

00:36:19.820 --> 00:36:22.019
oh, he's getting his fucking ass beat. Yeah,

00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.360
that's true. I look forward to someone who opened

00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.320
his ass. So then he's like, damn, he's getting

00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.139
his ass beat. And it's visible. You see it. You

00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:34.619
believe it. And then, of course, at the end,

00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.619
DX or whoever, Evolution, whatever the scenario

00:36:38.619 --> 00:36:44.860
was, he gets the cheap win. And so I think just

00:36:44.860 --> 00:36:51.170
overall look. Physique, wrestling style, selling.

00:36:53.369 --> 00:36:55.150
Probably I take most of my influence from him.

00:36:55.269 --> 00:36:57.050
There you go. And I got the questions coming

00:36:57.050 --> 00:36:58.650
in tonight, man. They're hot tonight. I got one

00:36:58.650 --> 00:37:03.170
from Danny saying, who's his favorite opponent?

00:37:04.409 --> 00:37:11.860
Oh, shit. Wink, wink, Danny. Wink, wink. Or we

00:37:11.860 --> 00:37:15.780
can go, who's your least favorite? You always

00:37:15.780 --> 00:37:18.000
do that, dude. Don't get him off the hook, bro.

00:37:18.019 --> 00:37:23.239
What? Trying to make it easy here. Oh, man. My

00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:28.699
favorite opponent? The people that I find the

00:37:28.699 --> 00:37:31.440
most fun to work with. And he's asking me because

00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:36.619
he knows he's one of them. No. No. You stay.

00:37:39.089 --> 00:37:40.750
Well, Danny's been in the game for a long time.

00:37:40.829 --> 00:37:45.369
So he's one of those guys that I'm like the last

00:37:45.369 --> 00:37:47.530
time that him and I worked, which was for real

00:37:47.530 --> 00:37:50.369
promotions about a year and a half ago. It's

00:37:50.369 --> 00:37:55.710
been a while. We kind of we went in there and

00:37:55.710 --> 00:37:57.750
didn't like plan anything. You know, we didn't

00:37:57.750 --> 00:37:59.369
know who was a good guy, who was a bad guy to

00:37:59.369 --> 00:38:01.590
squat there and do it. Beat the crap out of each

00:38:01.590 --> 00:38:03.809
other. And it was really fun and it worked and

00:38:03.809 --> 00:38:08.480
people loved it. Right. So. Anyone I can do that

00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.039
with is a is a really Someone I'd like to work

00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:16.320
with so Danny chance I've only got to work with

00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.320
him a couple times and that I'll go to your house.

00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:25.159
Okay, all right, right But in like like a match

00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.500
I really feel like damn that was just so much

00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:31.679
fun the Australian dude that Danny brought down

00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.789
the Australian hero I can't remember his name.

00:38:36.789 --> 00:38:38.769
I'm sorry. I can't remember his name. Danny,

00:38:38.809 --> 00:38:42.230
you're out there throwing that name for us. Chris

00:38:42.230 --> 00:38:48.969
Morrow. Chris Morrow, I think so. Okay. Yeah.

00:38:50.849 --> 00:38:55.010
Him and I, I had wrestled for Fortuna the same

00:38:55.010 --> 00:38:58.329
night. As soon as I finished that match, I drove

00:38:58.329 --> 00:39:01.690
to the landmark. Holy crap. And then him and

00:39:01.690 --> 00:39:06.289
I were going to wrestle in the main. And I had

00:39:06.289 --> 00:39:08.730
just gotten there and I was like, well, I do

00:39:08.730 --> 00:39:10.389
this move and I do that move. And he's like,

00:39:10.510 --> 00:39:12.530
well, I do this and I do that. He's like, in

00:39:12.530 --> 00:39:14.170
the beginning, what if we did something like

00:39:14.170 --> 00:39:19.130
this? I said, perfect. That's all we talked about.

00:39:20.070 --> 00:39:22.329
That's what he's saying. He goes, we didn't plan

00:39:22.329 --> 00:39:27.489
shit. It's more than what we did with Will. Those

00:39:27.489 --> 00:39:29.409
are the best matches, though, man. Those are

00:39:29.409 --> 00:39:32.170
the best. That's the best shit to do. Yeah. He's

00:39:32.170 --> 00:39:42.470
asking another one, too. Who's your least? Man

00:39:42.470 --> 00:39:49.849
My least favorite I worked him a long time ago

00:39:49.849 --> 00:39:56.090
I can't remember his name either but He would

00:39:56.090 --> 00:39:59.769
hurt you on this shit that wasn't even like like

00:39:59.769 --> 00:40:06.719
Like you give me a shoulder tackle Oops. But

00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.900
it wasn't the impact that would hurt me. It's

00:40:10.900 --> 00:40:12.559
because he would hit you and he would slap this

00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:16.659
shit out your back. And he had these big old

00:40:16.659 --> 00:40:20.039
hands and that's done. And then he had long dreads.

00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.380
So he would move and do shit and his dreads would

00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:25.059
just smack you somewhere and it's like a whip.

00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:28.300
So just working him was just very frustrating.

00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.099
So that, if I could think back, And I wrestled

00:40:34.099 --> 00:40:44.019
him in a pre -show in Addison, Texas. I probably

00:40:44.019 --> 00:40:46.179
don't remember his name because that was in the

00:40:46.179 --> 00:40:48.659
pre -show. And later on in that night, I got

00:40:48.659 --> 00:40:52.860
to work Big Khan, formerly Conor from NXT, the

00:40:52.860 --> 00:40:57.300
attack team, the Ascension, WWE. So, and then

00:40:57.300 --> 00:41:00.219
in TNA, now he's big con. So, in the Independence,

00:41:00.219 --> 00:41:02.920
he was big con. So, later on that night, I got

00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.179
to get in a singles match with him. He kicked

00:41:05.179 --> 00:41:17.500
my ass. It was an opportunity and a learning

00:41:17.500 --> 00:41:18.940
experience, because I was only like two years

00:41:18.940 --> 00:41:23.230
in at that time. So, that was really cool. Think

00:41:23.230 --> 00:41:25.349
those are the best ones I mean when you go in

00:41:25.349 --> 00:41:27.530
when you go into this the field of wrestling

00:41:27.530 --> 00:41:29.929
and you're you're still a little green going

00:41:29.929 --> 00:41:33.110
in You get these big -time guys that been out

00:41:33.110 --> 00:41:36.289
there for a while and you know you learn From

00:41:36.289 --> 00:41:39.909
yeah learn the role our match was about three

00:41:39.909 --> 00:41:45.070
minutes But we spent almost an hour in the ring

00:41:45.070 --> 00:41:47.369
just working together and learning he was teaching

00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:49.210
me things and just you know just getting to work

00:41:49.210 --> 00:41:52.409
and have fun and right right and just So it was

00:41:52.409 --> 00:41:56.730
a good time. And we're actually, like, we're

00:41:56.730 --> 00:42:00.150
cool. We're friends. He, you know, nice enough.

00:42:00.309 --> 00:42:01.710
And I guess I made an impression enough that

00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:03.989
he actually gave me his information and I could

00:42:03.989 --> 00:42:06.110
reach out to him if I ever had questions or needed

00:42:06.110 --> 00:42:08.309
help with anything. That's awesome. That's awesome,

00:42:08.510 --> 00:42:10.489
man. That's pretty cool. So every now and then

00:42:10.489 --> 00:42:13.429
I get to, you know, keeping tabs with him, any

00:42:13.429 --> 00:42:15.909
advice or any, can you watch this clip for me

00:42:15.909 --> 00:42:17.849
and tell me what you think type of a thing? Yeah.

00:42:18.369 --> 00:42:21.739
That's pretty cool. Making those surprise connections

00:42:21.739 --> 00:42:23.679
though. Those are oh, yeah, those are always

00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.920
the best. Yeah Yeah, that's awesome, bro. So

00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:31.239
I mean consider the fact now You've had a cut

00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:33.159
yet cut a good amount of years under your belt

00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:38.639
now, you know in five years. Yeah And have you

00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:43.000
uh, I mean who if down the line we're talking

00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.400
further down laughter this I like to call the

00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:50.849
the the limbo area that we're at right now. The

00:42:50.849 --> 00:42:54.030
limbo area. When you're finally out of the gutting

00:42:54.030 --> 00:42:58.849
situation, who would be your hurrah match or

00:42:58.849 --> 00:43:01.409
your final match with if possible given that

00:43:01.409 --> 00:43:05.489
chance? Oh, man. So I'm not going to answer that

00:43:05.489 --> 00:43:08.230
one. I didn't think you would ask that, but that's

00:43:08.230 --> 00:43:11.619
the one. Because if that does happen... Because

00:43:11.619 --> 00:43:13.960
I do have someone in mind and if that does happen

00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.159
well, they keep that keep that in reps. Yeah,

00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:21.260
that's uh The chances of it happening I think

00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:29.039
are Slimmer than than anything else but uh Because

00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.739
it's a very personal thing I would like to hold

00:43:31.739 --> 00:43:33.599
off until I know more about that. All right,

00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:38.480
cool Yeah, very cool. I got a danny saying Black

00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:43.269
heart versus raymonds Did Wonders and Black Heart.

00:43:43.769 --> 00:43:48.230
Oh Ramones, yeah. Was it Castanedos? Is that

00:43:48.230 --> 00:43:51.369
what you say? Castanedos. Castanedos was crazy

00:43:51.369 --> 00:43:55.769
over a five by five brewery. Max and Danny Ramones.

00:43:56.090 --> 00:43:59.070
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The juicy one. The juicy one.

00:44:00.269 --> 00:44:05.349
How are you? And going back to, you know, like

00:44:05.349 --> 00:44:07.530
I was able to work with Danny Chan so well. He's

00:44:07.530 --> 00:44:09.619
my trainer. He probably knows me better than

00:44:09.619 --> 00:44:13.860
anyone else in the business, right? So we got

00:44:13.860 --> 00:44:16.320
to just not call shit, go out and have a great

00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.619
match. And working with Ramones was the same

00:44:18.619 --> 00:44:21.360
way because he was a hand -in -hand teacher of

00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:26.500
mine also. So the same thing. I can, you know,

00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:28.940
we put this whole idea together and then he'll

00:44:28.940 --> 00:44:31.199
be like, it'd be like just seconds before we

00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.619
go, he's like, you know what, brother? I don't

00:44:33.619 --> 00:44:35.159
think it's going to work. I think we should just

00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:40.639
go out there and feel it. When you say feel it,

00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.420
what do you mean? You know. You know how it is.

00:44:49.980 --> 00:44:56.000
And then from there, I'll just listen and remember

00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:58.639
that thing, let's do it like this. So we just

00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.130
figure it all out in the ring. And I think those

00:45:01.130 --> 00:45:04.309
have always been my best matches. Yeah. I've

00:45:04.309 --> 00:45:06.070
watched some of the matches. I like the fact

00:45:06.070 --> 00:45:08.489
because, I mean, if you're really critiqued to

00:45:08.489 --> 00:45:10.489
the matches, if you really follow them to the,

00:45:10.690 --> 00:45:12.590
if you're there to watch the show and enjoy yourself,

00:45:12.769 --> 00:45:14.690
I'm one of those person that sits in the front

00:45:14.690 --> 00:45:17.349
row and I'm watching how everything's working,

00:45:17.429 --> 00:45:19.070
how they, okay, this is what we're going here.

00:45:19.230 --> 00:45:21.269
Okay, we're going to do this. I would go here.

00:45:21.570 --> 00:45:23.530
And you're like, damn, dude, that's like behind

00:45:23.530 --> 00:45:26.650
the scenes there. Your scene is happening. It's

00:45:26.650 --> 00:45:28.929
two artists, you know, working together. Yeah.

00:45:29.289 --> 00:45:31.929
And it's crazy to see, like, wow, man, at the

00:45:31.929 --> 00:45:33.869
drop of a dime, they're going back and forth

00:45:33.869 --> 00:45:36.489
and they know what they want to do on the next

00:45:36.489 --> 00:45:39.469
move. That's freaking awesome, though. When it

00:45:39.469 --> 00:45:44.949
comes to calling, like calling spots, it is necessary

00:45:44.949 --> 00:45:48.389
sometimes, though, especially if you do, like,

00:45:48.690 --> 00:45:51.170
crazier moves, because that's not something you

00:45:51.170 --> 00:45:53.110
just want to spring on someone, you know, at

00:45:53.110 --> 00:45:56.280
the last second. Unless you have to. And then

00:45:56.280 --> 00:46:00.079
it's, hey, fuck it, just do it. But if it's like

00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.199
a crazier bump, something that you could potentially

00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.639
get, the chances of getting hurt are higher for

00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.840
that one. Definitely something you didn't talk

00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:12.239
about before. Yeah. Yeah. I got DJ, now I know

00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.659
you are, DJ. This is Miss You Brother. Can't

00:46:14.659 --> 00:46:17.099
wait to share the ring with you again. Yeah.

00:46:18.460 --> 00:46:21.320
So I want to take the time to apologize, bro.

00:46:22.769 --> 00:46:25.550
who you were until I had to run it back and into

00:46:25.550 --> 00:46:28.050
that deep voice of yours when you talk like that.

00:46:28.730 --> 00:46:30.789
Sound like Barry White when you talk, bro. But

00:46:30.789 --> 00:46:34.670
I apologize for that, bro. So for y 'all who

00:46:34.670 --> 00:46:37.050
don't know, the last time I was on the podcast,

00:46:37.250 --> 00:46:40.550
me and DJ were teaming up. And JC was running

00:46:40.550 --> 00:46:44.150
with us on the local team. But man, me and DJ

00:46:44.150 --> 00:46:49.030
were killing it up in NWA, Texas. Mr. Rodney

00:46:49.030 --> 00:46:51.889
Mack told us the plan for the following months.

00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.920
Things were going great. And just a little bit

00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:03.239
of bad luck. DJ got hurt on a very simple, like,

00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:07.239
in -ring thing. Sometimes it happens, bro. Sometimes

00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.480
it happens. And it's just fate, I guess. You

00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:15.039
know, things happen for a reason. But man, things

00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:16.920
were going super badass. And I think that was

00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:21.260
the beginning of the questions for me. Yeah.

00:47:22.210 --> 00:47:24.670
Yeah, there you go. And I got Danny put it on

00:47:24.670 --> 00:47:26.969
there. The 63 Madden up there. You want to see

00:47:26.969 --> 00:47:29.849
that there in the corner? Black Heart right there.

00:47:30.489 --> 00:47:35.150
The name of your trio right there. Yeah. Yeah,

00:47:36.369 --> 00:47:39.730
but I mean, the stories you've brought us for

00:47:39.730 --> 00:47:44.190
the times when you're in the ring and now go

00:47:44.190 --> 00:47:45.969
shifting gears to a different journey for the

00:47:45.969 --> 00:47:48.650
meanwhile before you shift back. It's something

00:47:48.650 --> 00:47:50.840
that it's an adventure. It's an adventure that

00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.380
eventually you're going to be, you know, it goes,

00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:56.300
man, you know what? I think it's time to, you

00:47:56.300 --> 00:47:59.280
know, head back and let's let's give it all she's

00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.400
got in this one. Like the was it like the George

00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.139
Strait ride off to the sunset tour? I don't know.

00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.420
Well, that shit never ended. He's still riding

00:48:08.420 --> 00:48:11.159
off to the sunset, man. What are you riding?

00:48:14.309 --> 00:48:17.429
That's not George's fault. I keep throwing money

00:48:17.429 --> 00:48:20.190
at him. That happened like 15 years ago or something.

00:48:21.909 --> 00:48:26.409
I'm almost there! I'm almost done. I'm almost

00:48:26.409 --> 00:48:29.429
out. But yeah, going back to that, you know,

00:48:30.289 --> 00:48:37.269
if you could, go back and talk to yourself, bro.

00:48:37.449 --> 00:48:41.170
when all this is happening all you you're fresh

00:48:41.170 --> 00:48:44.409
green behind the ears you're by your you're stepping

00:48:44.409 --> 00:48:46.670
in for the ring first time okay you can go back

00:48:46.670 --> 00:48:49.829
in time and tell you something what is it you

00:48:49.829 --> 00:48:53.190
would whisper yourself into your own ear to take

00:48:53.190 --> 00:49:00.250
the heart um mind you black heart uh slow down

00:49:00.250 --> 00:49:08.949
man be patient um i think just being more present

00:49:08.949 --> 00:49:14.269
and mindful and What you're doing Will take you

00:49:14.269 --> 00:49:17.650
a long way And I think especially the wrestling

00:49:17.650 --> 00:49:19.230
business when you're just getting started. It's

00:49:19.230 --> 00:49:24.050
so easy to get caught up in thinking about You

00:49:24.050 --> 00:49:26.510
know I need to get my gear ready got to be ready

00:49:26.510 --> 00:49:29.309
For the you know when I have my first match I

00:49:29.309 --> 00:49:31.309
wanted to go this way and you know you start

00:49:31.309 --> 00:49:34.530
thinking about all those pre -match like anxieties

00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.300
When the best thing to do is just to slow down

00:49:38.300 --> 00:49:41.559
and enjoy the process and really appreciate and

00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:45.340
learn what you're doing. Because everything else

00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:49.519
will come. It's going to happen. But making the

00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.199
most out of that moment, when it does, comes

00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:55.880
with preparation and being patient with yourself.

00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:00.599
There you go. Very well said. Very well said,

00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.880
man. Yeah, isn't that what any of us would do

00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.219
if we could talk to our younger selves? Don't

00:50:07.219 --> 00:50:10.860
be in such a rush to do that thing that you think

00:50:10.860 --> 00:50:14.440
you want to do. Really step back and look at

00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.940
what you got around you, what's going on. Yeah,

00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:21.679
I totally understand. If anything, you're going

00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.360
back and telling yourself, hey, bro, pump the

00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.099
brakes a little bit, slow down. Enjoy life a

00:50:27.099 --> 00:50:29.840
little bit. Don't run in the fast lane, bro.

00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:35.059
just enjoy life you know and and you know enjoy

00:50:35.059 --> 00:50:36.940
everything around you yes i know for now for

00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:40.800
you unfortunately for you ferdinando your your

00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.179
enjoyed life was that bus trip bro and the karaoke

00:50:44.179 --> 00:50:48.239
the whole was it George saying you know what

00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.820
I'm done who's driving you send the poor guy

00:50:50.820 --> 00:50:53.900
in the back who's tired the whole night and you

00:50:53.900 --> 00:50:56.559
make him drive the bus which by the way had no

00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:58.340
right to be driving the bus it had no license

00:50:58.340 --> 00:51:02.159
you are so damn lucky you didn't get pulled over

00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:05.239
Jesus if you're in the audience you want to know

00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:07.039
what the hell he's talking about just watch the

00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:14.530
previous episode very interesting episode Black

00:51:14.530 --> 00:51:16.789
heart man. I first of all, I know we're about

00:51:16.789 --> 00:51:19.170
51 minutes into the podcast man. This it's been

00:51:19.170 --> 00:51:22.449
it's been Coast sailing with you and we talked

00:51:22.449 --> 00:51:25.469
about this before we even started up You know,

00:51:25.469 --> 00:51:28.150
I got Hacito saying here also Rivera say what's

00:51:28.150 --> 00:51:30.230
up guys? Saludos to black heart. Where have you

00:51:30.230 --> 00:51:35.050
been? Where have you been? Those inches are plates

00:51:35.579 --> 00:51:42.039
Fucking amazing, bro Fucking amazing just amazing.

00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:46.340
But uh, yeah, I was saying beforehand. I mean

00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.940
Have watching you through the process from the

00:51:50.940 --> 00:51:53.960
first time we had you in the podcast now You

00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:55.639
know and I've said this before with a lot of

00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:57.739
the other resources that I had him for like Danny

00:51:57.739 --> 00:51:59.960
You know and so for all the other guys that have

00:51:59.960 --> 00:52:02.460
come in see them grow through the process You're

00:52:02.460 --> 00:52:05.380
like you you're like wow man. It's it's crazy

00:52:05.380 --> 00:52:09.280
six years have flown by dude. Yeah fast. Yeah,

00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:13.289
you know and Seeing you guys perform. I mean,

00:52:13.369 --> 00:52:14.929
man, I remember when these guys came in, man,

00:52:14.969 --> 00:52:17.769
they were just fresh into the school. And now

00:52:17.769 --> 00:52:20.489
they're just doing amazing things right now,

00:52:20.530 --> 00:52:22.610
man. That's that's freaking amazing. Danny did

00:52:22.610 --> 00:52:24.829
a Danny. You did a good thing, buddy. You did

00:52:24.829 --> 00:52:29.090
a good thing. But I mean, anything you would

00:52:29.090 --> 00:52:33.909
like to say to your fans, bro, you got you got.

00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:36.860
Seven minutes to say something is something for

00:52:36.860 --> 00:52:38.480
them because I'm pretty sure they're waiting.

00:52:38.860 --> 00:52:42.659
What's what's going on? Well, I mentioned earlier

00:52:42.659 --> 00:52:47.780
The future is very uncertain for me And if my

00:52:47.780 --> 00:52:52.920
last match Happens to be contract with the devil

00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.019
ladder match Thank you for going. Thank you for

00:52:57.019 --> 00:52:59.380
supporting me. Thank you for following me on

00:52:59.380 --> 00:53:07.780
the journey If maybe I didn't climb as high as

00:53:07.780 --> 00:53:11.119
some expectations were, trust me, I had higher

00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:15.019
expectations. But no, thank you. I've had a lot

00:53:15.019 --> 00:53:21.039
of fun. And if I come back, I hope everyone is

00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.579
there. And if not, I hope everyone's enjoyed

00:53:24.579 --> 00:53:28.739
the work that I've done. But we just got to see

00:53:28.739 --> 00:53:33.400
what happens. We don't know. We don't know anything,

00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.059
so... For now, that's about all I've got for

00:53:37.059 --> 00:53:43.119
the fans. Just a lot of appreciation. Um... Because,

00:53:43.139 --> 00:53:47.039
uh... Friends and family. I mean, shout out to

00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:50.320
everybody. Yeah, everyone, man. I... It's hard

00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.880
for me to think of everything and everyone on

00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:58.059
the... Like, right now on the spot. But I know...

00:53:58.059 --> 00:54:01.690
Before every match, before... I mean, everything.

00:54:03.070 --> 00:54:05.610
It's a constant flow in my head, you know what

00:54:05.610 --> 00:54:07.630
I mean? Always thinking about this match and

00:54:07.630 --> 00:54:11.769
thinking about, like, I need to do such and such

00:54:11.769 --> 00:54:15.409
trainings so on this match I can do this type

00:54:15.409 --> 00:54:17.809
of, you know, perform this way and look this

00:54:17.809 --> 00:54:20.869
way and, like, just putting everything together

00:54:20.869 --> 00:54:23.230
for the 10, 15 minutes that we're out there,

00:54:23.429 --> 00:54:28.409
you know, it's all for the people. And by proxy,

00:54:28.730 --> 00:54:31.289
when they're happy, It all comes back to me.

00:54:32.389 --> 00:54:36.730
And I hope everyone is happy, like I said, with

00:54:36.730 --> 00:54:42.010
the work that I've done. I will say, I think

00:54:42.010 --> 00:54:46.650
when I found from now, like I left wrestling

00:54:46.650 --> 00:54:48.690
better than I found it, I would like to think,

00:54:48.869 --> 00:54:51.630
you know, given where we were and where we are.

00:54:53.590 --> 00:54:56.889
And if I was able to contribute and help with

00:54:56.889 --> 00:55:00.110
anyone along the way. I hope you take what I

00:55:00.110 --> 00:55:03.590
taught you and you teach someone else. Even the

00:55:03.590 --> 00:55:05.670
shit that people didn't want to listen to me

00:55:05.670 --> 00:55:08.170
about, I hope one day you figure that shit out

00:55:08.170 --> 00:55:13.969
and then teach it to someone else. But that's

00:55:13.969 --> 00:55:17.670
it. I'm happy. I've accomplished a lot more than

00:55:17.670 --> 00:55:20.269
I even thought I could. I didn't even think I

00:55:20.269 --> 00:55:21.769
would be able to be a wrestler, to be honest.

00:55:22.050 --> 00:55:25.989
I didn't think I had the talent or ability. So

00:55:25.989 --> 00:55:28.949
to say that I at least performed for Ring of

00:55:28.949 --> 00:55:30.909
Honor a couple times, and I've got to meet some

00:55:30.909 --> 00:55:32.510
of the people I've met and make the connections

00:55:32.510 --> 00:55:36.889
that I've made. I've done more than what I thought

00:55:36.889 --> 00:55:41.250
I could. There you go. Yeah. And so for me, that's

00:55:41.250 --> 00:55:43.530
all right. I can deal with that. I can do that.

00:55:45.070 --> 00:55:47.650
There's more I'd like to do. Don't get me wrong.

00:55:48.610 --> 00:55:51.070
But there's too many uncertainties at the time.

00:55:51.670 --> 00:55:56.010
But I hope one day. When it's the right time.

00:55:56.269 --> 00:56:00.409
the right place I'll come back and I hope everyone

00:56:00.409 --> 00:56:03.090
who's watching and everyone who's not watching

00:56:03.090 --> 00:56:06.090
tell your friends tell your family I hope everyone

00:56:06.090 --> 00:56:08.849
goes whatever that is there you go man we'll

00:56:08.849 --> 00:56:12.190
see and and to finish off the last comment tonight

00:56:12.190 --> 00:56:18.510
guys leave it to the rebel Sean says you'll be

00:56:18.510 --> 00:56:26.440
back Oh, man. And actually, I want to holler

00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:31.159
at Sean Jones. Because I've been thinking about,

00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:33.780
I mean, I'm always thinking about everything,

00:56:34.340 --> 00:56:37.840
right? But when I left the business, aside from

00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:43.800
the promoters and the talent up north, no one

00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:49.179
locally reached out to me. I ran to Kike and

00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:52.440
he talked to me, but Shawn Jones is like maybe

00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:54.619
one of two guys that actually sent me a message.

00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:56.960
There you go. So big shout out to Shawn Jones

00:56:56.960 --> 00:56:59.860
for being a real one, man. Yeah, and tune in

00:56:59.860 --> 00:57:02.199
next month. I believe the second week of next

00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.920
month we'll be having the Gun Gang will be here.

00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.039
So you might want to tune in for that. Oh, is

00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.579
it the Gun Gang? Is it? No, not yet. Not yet.

00:57:09.579 --> 00:57:11.980
That'll be until April. That'll be until April.

00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:14.500
Which group is that exactly? That's going to

00:57:14.500 --> 00:57:17.920
be through... I believe that's through Combat

00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.639
Cult. That's through that promotion. No, but

00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:25.780
that's Austin? It's Austin. It's Shawn Jones.

00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:29.239
Oh, Shawn is in there. yeah there's uh the gentleman

00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:31.579
i keep forgetting the other person and sean please

00:57:31.579 --> 00:57:34.039
shoot it to you man i'm trying to get my ass

00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:37.960
kicked right now and martin it's martin no i'm

00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:41.400
just joking man i'm just joking don't bust the

00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:43.980
door like you did last time right or is it toxic

00:57:43.980 --> 00:57:46.440
oh i'm just playing with you bro i'm just playing

00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.300
with you he'll bust through that door like kool

00:57:48.300 --> 00:57:56.159
-aid right now oh yeah but uh yeah man uh First

00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:57.880
of all, I want to take that up here and say thank

00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.340
you, bro, for coming out once again. Have a little

00:58:00.340 --> 00:58:03.199
fun with us, bro. It's such a treat to be here,

00:58:03.340 --> 00:58:06.000
man. Like I said, seeing you grow through the

00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.739
years, from the first time you came in, then

00:58:08.739 --> 00:58:11.380
all the way through, even through our old, basically

00:58:11.380 --> 00:58:15.579
almost every single studio we've had. You've

00:58:15.579 --> 00:58:18.480
been there, bro, and it's been awesome, bro.

00:58:19.059 --> 00:58:21.079
But, oh yeah, Downtown Fix. Thank you, Chris.

00:58:22.179 --> 00:58:25.809
I should have known. It was Felix. I'm sorry,

00:58:25.989 --> 00:58:29.909
bro. I'm sorry. Felix, when you come, we have

00:58:29.909 --> 00:58:32.449
worse to discuss, homie. We have worse to discuss.

00:58:32.710 --> 00:58:34.150
We have a lot to talk about. Just always remember,

00:58:34.250 --> 00:58:38.090
dude, he's stupid. I gotta remind him of his

00:58:38.090 --> 00:58:43.670
name every goddamn day. This is true. But like

00:58:43.670 --> 00:58:47.980
always, uh... Blackheart, it's a treat having

00:58:47.980 --> 00:58:50.659
you on, bro. Every time you come in, it's always

00:58:50.659 --> 00:58:53.199
a, we kill Frank. Okay, all right, Christmas!

00:58:54.099 --> 00:58:59.019
Wow, anyways. Yeah, it's gotten real wicked now.

00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:11.739
Jesus Christ. I mean I mean she still gets flashbacks

00:59:11.739 --> 00:59:14.559
from the the dirty shot. He got to the face with

00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:22.880
the campaign But James I mean first of all Steven

00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:26.119
I want to say thank you man for bringing us so

00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.940
much stuff that you've had, you know through

00:59:28.940 --> 00:59:32.260
the years to share with us man uh it's never

00:59:32.260 --> 00:59:34.780
it's never a dull moment with you here because

00:59:34.780 --> 00:59:37.599
i mean if there's anybody like an open book to

00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:40.039
read you bring it all to the table and say hey

00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:42.840
this is what's going on yeah man yeah bro and

00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:46.519
i appreciate i appreciate that man i appreciate

00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:48.440
that you bring yes sean i know next time i'm

00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:51.480
breaking down your door yeah i know that's what

00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.659
we have to reinforce it already but uh we're

00:59:54.659 --> 01:00:01.940
gonna lose our deposit Anyways, but once again

01:00:01.940 --> 01:00:05.500
Thank you so much do for what you do and and

01:00:05.500 --> 01:00:08.320
if it does come to the point where later on the

01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:13.139
future if there is that one last hurrah, I want

01:00:13.139 --> 01:00:17.820
you on this podcast before and after Just to

01:00:17.820 --> 01:00:20.260
get get the the emotional feeling of that because

01:00:20.260 --> 01:00:22.099
I know if it's anything when you're finally saying

01:00:22.099 --> 01:00:25.179
That's it. They're hung up. Yeah, you know that

01:00:25.179 --> 01:00:30.519
I know for a fact moment I'll tell you this,

01:00:30.820 --> 01:00:34.920
man. Whether I'm going to come back and announce

01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:39.019
my return to the ring or I come back just to

01:00:39.019 --> 01:00:42.760
say, hey, it's not happening. I'll come back

01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:44.380
and let you guys know. There you go, man. We

01:00:44.380 --> 01:00:46.480
heard it first here, bro. We heard it. Thank

01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.400
you so much, man. Thank you so much, guys. Like

01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:51.000
I said, once again, thank you for coming, man.

01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:53.519
We are an hour in, and we are cutting the show

01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:55.940
already, man, because we got... This guy got

01:00:55.940 --> 01:00:57.679
some nap time, I don't know, for some reason.

01:00:57.820 --> 01:01:00.360
Yeah, man. It's like two hours past my bedtime.

01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:04.039
I am dying. I'm almost there brother. Don't worry

01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:15.019
about it. Ladies and gentlemen, that is our podcast

01:01:15.019 --> 01:01:17.340
for the night. Chu, what did you think brother?

01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:21.019
It was another great show, man. And let me just

01:01:21.019 --> 01:01:23.320
say like from two fans, dude, like thank you

01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:25.199
for everything that you've done for all the great

01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:28.320
shows that you've given us. Yeah, for sure. You

01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:30.239
know, I agree. Like if you got one more show

01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.179
on you, if you got more shows on you. By all

01:01:32.179 --> 01:01:34.840
means, bring it. We'll show up. But if not, thank

01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:36.519
you so much, man. It was a great run. Thanks

01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:38.880
for the memories, bro. Big time memory. Thank

01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.860
you guys, and thank wrestling. Thank you, Danny.

01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.320
Because I just, I don't know. I never thought

01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:49.300
I would find a wrestling school. And then, I

01:01:49.300 --> 01:01:53.199
don't know. Here we are. You had a great career

01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.380
either way, man. Yeah, you did. You had a great

01:01:55.380 --> 01:01:59.309
run. Guys that is our show for tonight, man.

01:01:59.349 --> 01:02:02.070
What a great episode man. It is this is like

01:02:02.070 --> 01:02:05.690
a more More what's the what's the word look for

01:02:05.690 --> 01:02:11.539
more? It was a much closer we were More intimate

01:02:11.539 --> 01:02:14.019
more intimate feeling podcast today because I

01:02:14.019 --> 01:02:21.400
know No, I mean seriously, I mean it's rare when

01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:23.880
we have podcasts like that we actually get to

01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:25.219
the needy greedy and you know Somebody needs

01:02:25.219 --> 01:02:27.159
to get something off their chest They want to

01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.300
explain what's going on and you get that little

01:02:29.300 --> 01:02:31.199
that little little emotional and they're like

01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:34.150
damn, bro, you know, it's You hear it, you can

01:02:34.150 --> 01:02:36.090
hear when you have to let it out, you gotta let

01:02:36.090 --> 01:02:36.989
it out, you know what I mean? Yeah, because I

01:02:36.989 --> 01:02:39.030
mean, we've had Black Heart on the show before,

01:02:39.170 --> 01:02:41.090
but, you know, we have James today. Yeah, I know.

01:02:41.190 --> 01:02:43.789
And it's a different, it was a different feel,

01:02:43.809 --> 01:02:46.230
and I really enjoyed it. Thank you again for

01:02:46.230 --> 01:02:47.369
coming. Yeah, man. Of course, man, of course.

01:02:47.389 --> 01:02:49.389
Guys, that's our episode for tonight. Tune in

01:02:49.389 --> 01:02:51.809
next week, 7 .30 p .m. when we have a special

01:02:51.809 --> 01:02:54.449
guest coming in from New Breed that started up

01:02:54.449 --> 01:02:57.750
all over again. Get ready. I will dish out that

01:02:57.750 --> 01:03:00.889
commercial soon enough. Just keep talking. No,

01:03:00.929 --> 01:03:03.449
oh by the way those shirts are selling like hotcakes

01:03:03.449 --> 01:03:06.230
guys if you get a chance, that's the new name

01:03:06.230 --> 01:03:10.530
hashtag Armando el foquito Rivera. Make sure

01:03:10.530 --> 01:03:13.010
you hashtag the crack. What is gone? Gakawande

01:03:13.010 --> 01:03:15.309
has finally been raked up and tossed in the trash.

01:03:15.489 --> 01:03:17.889
He's been. He's been. It's it's no longer a thing.

01:03:18.030 --> 01:03:21.349
It's el foquito. Exactly. It's el foquito. And

01:03:21.349 --> 01:03:23.750
one more last comment here from our triple boy

01:03:23.750 --> 01:03:26.230
brothers here. He goes, you get in a bar fight.

01:03:26.409 --> 01:03:28.769
What three wrestlers are you taking the bar to

01:03:28.769 --> 01:03:33.829
settle the bill? Look at the time. I'll let James

01:03:33.829 --> 01:03:39.150
answer that. Are we talking local? Anybody. Anybody.

01:03:39.269 --> 01:03:43.150
Anybody, anywhere, dude. I'll bring up local

01:03:43.150 --> 01:03:44.610
guys, because that's what we're doing, right?

01:03:44.769 --> 01:03:46.969
So local guys, I'm getting into a bar fight.

01:03:47.130 --> 01:04:02.429
I'm taking... Shit. No, I'll take Avro. Shadows

01:04:02.429 --> 01:04:08.400
and Austin. Wow. Wow. Okay. Wow. That's a good

01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.340
one. That's a good one. That's because I know

01:04:11.340 --> 01:04:15.000
they have, they do MMA stuff, you know, here

01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.340
and there. So, you know, I'd rather have someone

01:04:17.340 --> 01:04:19.159
who knows a little bit of some. There you go.

01:04:19.579 --> 01:04:22.420
You heard them guys tape up. You're scrapping

01:04:22.420 --> 01:04:26.219
the neck. And last one, here he goes. Yeah, Fernando,

01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:28.940
he's been baptized with Foquito. Yes, he has.

01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.199
He's been back up from the podcast. Ladies and

01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:32.539
gentlemen, thank you for tuning in tonight. Tune

01:04:32.539 --> 01:04:36.809
in next week, 7 30 p .m. on Saint. the same YouTube

01:04:36.809 --> 01:04:39.889
channel, the same Facebook, my page, and the

01:04:39.889 --> 01:04:41.949
TuneIn Pocket, and Twitch. Thank you so much.

01:04:42.510 --> 01:04:44.809
We will see you next week. Sign us up, buddy.

01:04:45.670 --> 01:04:47.750
And I am Lilou. We will see you next week. Like

01:04:47.750 --> 01:04:52.230
always, guys, laters and gators. Peace out. Good

01:04:52.230 --> 01:04:52.570
night, everybody.