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What's going on guys welcome back to another
Thursday night 7 30 p .m. Well actually we're
a little early and I don't care But uh, the reason
why man we got this great guest that's coming
today We've you might have seen him a couple
of months back last year I believe maybe around
October or was it November? I'm not really sure
he came in and kick the crap of one of the most
favorite wrestlers known here in the back well
his name's mentioned like beetle juice although
yes i'm talking about foxy call here he came
in and beat the living hell out of him but enough
with that man and uh hope he doesn't mind the
stench that he left behind when he beat the there's
a lot of human feces on the walls that's what
that smell is but uh lady java let me introduce
to you rebel rock What's going on It's been I
can literally say it's been a It's been a while.
I mean, yeah, you're right. I beat the hell out
of a toxic. Oh, I mean again He was disrespecting
me. He took something that was that really belonged
to me, right? So I mean I had to come in and
destroy him a little bit I told him that hey
man, we're gonna come in the pocket. I think
uh, she was gonna be able to make it. He's having
uh, Taking care of some stuff. Uh, can you come
on in and go who's your guest? I go Shawn wait,
who is Shawn? I go Shawn dude, Shawn Jones coming
in wait That same guy that came in beat the crap
out of uh, the guy I don't no longer friends
with I don't associate with I don't know who
he lives. I don't know his number I'm not even
a big fan anymore. Uh, that guy he goes, yeah,
he goes He didn't even get touched. I mean, come
on. I mean, if he was here, yeah, probably would
have chopped him in the chest. But I mean, hey,
I mean, come on. Yeah. And of course, like I
said, when you mention his name once, there is
always the green bean that pops up. And by the
way, Congratulations, you guys put some respect
on my best buddy now this coming from Martin
by the way Double dragon tag team champions if
I'm mistaken You know, we'll talk about that
a little bit later because I mean, again, this
is my show, not Martin's show. We don't care
about NLP and Gun Gang don't care about the NLP.
They don't care about anybody else. But you know,
you guys can hold on to those titles because
me, Austin, Felix, we're going to go ahead and
take those from you guys. See, and what we're
talking about today is a combat cult episode.
We're talking about Sean on the other side of
the pond right now and things that are going
for him. And just to give you a heads up, guys,
I know I've been putting this number up for the
last couple of days Sean and no one's called
so I don't expect anybody to call We do have
a live. They're just chickens. We got a live
number We can actually call and speak to Sean
say your comments and what so have you so that's
alive and running for you guys, okay, but Sean
I mean, this is the first time I've had you on
the tuning podcast we Our audience our live audience
and watch and everything people that are Terry
tuning for the first time Don't really know you
that well personally. Can you take this little
trip on your background? We grew up, you know
Born and raised in Lafayette, Texas went to school
there graduated 2012 I actually did professional
wrestling in the early years, so around 2015,
then I kind of stopped around 2017 from there,
then came back. I came back around the beginning
year of 2023, then I actually had my first match
back in March of 2023. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah,
so I mean, it was one of those, you know, I needed
to take a mental break, wasn't it? Right, right.
around then wrestling around here was as Big
as it is right now not big but more unhealthy
in the ones. Okay, all right, all right, of course
Yeah, take that mental break to come back. Okay,
they come back, you know more wiser more more
sharp more More energy of the passion for this
So yeah, no, so I'm growing up through the years
like we're talking about right now What was What
was the main point? I mean what really got you
into? uh the wrestling the the the genre of wrestling
that would really grab your eye that you said
you know what i want to do that one day um i
mean again watching uh wrestling with uh my dad
uh my parents uh my dad was a big uh wcw fan
who was a big wdf fan uh from the add to your
area you know looking channels back and forth
there you go uh so i mean like we we would watch
that so it was always fun to do um like uh you
know watching is just ridiculous like a ridiculous
match over on nitro then go back to like stone
cold whooping somebody's ass i mean it's just
right right the nostalgia of like damn i want
to grow up and do that right like that that's
the energy the the uh the what's the word um
like the blood pumping okay the adrenaline the
adrenaline yes like it's just something of of
that daredevil -ness right that I just kind of
craved. I was like that as a young kid, just
growing up, growing up. I have an older brother.
He loved it as well. Ain't that the best, buddy?
It is. I mean, I'm the youngest out of four.
So I'm the youngest out of four. So everything
that they wanted to do, like the rock bottom,
stone costante, twist of fate, it just took it.
I mean, it is what it is. Little brothers are
the best. So you're growing up in the ages of
WCW WWE WWF the time Was there a certain wrestler
that you kind of idolized like bro? I want to
be Just like that guy of course basics. I mean
like like uh the hardys edging christian douglies
I mean around that time growing up a teenager.
I was being seven eight ecw That's what I also
wouldn't have noticed ecw so you had raven you
had uh the sandman sabu rob and dan so like there
was so like I'm so blessed to be growing up where
it's in the middle. You have the old, which is
the legends of wrestling. You come with the mids,
which is, of course, like ECW coming up that
style. Then you have, which is like the pros,
the guys that will actually give you that story.
So, I mean, like just growing up around that
time, just idolizing those type of guys. I mean,
even Stone Coast and Boston, that's a big influence.
Terry Funk is a big influence. I mean anything
from old school Japan. I mean you had this enhance
and you had to toy Terry Gordon I mean like you
have all those guys that that was like they're
scary they're big i mean that's that was like
damn that's right so i mean that that's the cool
part i guess growing up you know especially it's
kind of a father -son moment sometimes it's a
father it's a it's a son and mother moment it
depends you know yeah no i mean my mom either
way my mom was i mean she was here and there
she's like you guys gonna get hurt and we're
like fuck it right i mean we're gonna get fucking
hurt that's the whole point i mean right to this
day she she gets worried about right she sees
me limping on my a it's the name of the game
this is my Now take us back to a young Sean First
coming into the ranks of Wrestling first Workout,
I mean all that good stuff. How did you how did
you get your feet wet? How was the first thing
you did? So it was during October of 2015 yeah
2015 I was going around Facebook at the time
back then it was just like Facebook goes in that
huge thing then I saw online that in McAllen
downtown that's you know Ray they're gonna have
a show called wrestling revolution right so I
was like holy shit there's wrestling like right
right right blow my freaking mind right only
again you have to understand the only the only
time that we had wrestling was Corpus in San
Antonio. I mean, I was trying to go to a training
school in San Antonio, Corpus. I mean, there
was nothing here. So knowing that there was a
wrestling company here, that was awesome. So
I went there, it was during the Hardcore Horror
Show. How ironic, how funny. At the time, it
was, like I already told the story, and I'm happy
I'm good friends with him. The time that I got
to sit down and watch it was during one of my
good friends, COVID. He was going against Jackal.
He was another wrestler, a good buddy, a good
talent as well. He was going as the demon Jackal.
It was kind of a hardcore style and they were
actually knitted in and I was like, damn. This
is why I want to go to do like this is this is
something I want right right after this during
the show intermission couple of guys of course
They're at the bar because you know see nobody
had that bar day. So of course some guys were
just drinking I just asked hey, how do you join?
Like what's well, what do you what do we need
to do? Like what's going on? Right and Another
good buddy named Jim Justice. He just looked
at me. He's like We need security Okay, show
up next Friday. You can be able to train you
and everything Yeah, no, like we'll be here next
fucking Friday, right? He's like, all right.
Well trade is gonna be Tuesday Like show up.
That's like it's gonna be in Alton. So it was
like all the way in Alton, Texas Let me see.
Yeah, no, uh, you know show it up one day to
do the security Good like learn how to do this
how to learn how to do the ring how to set up
the stage how to Put up the chairs, you know,
because it was a it was a style the way how like
combat cast right? It was just that that way
of sitting and all that from there Showed up
Tuesday to do a training the guys over there.
He was of course Jim and another good buddy of
mine Tony strong I Mean this guy I think Tony
was probably 18 at the time. I think he's still
like 18 still Yeah, no, I mean they took us to
the first steps of bumping in the ring how to
do the back bumps the front bumps Flip bombs
hitting ropes I mean do I had a big big line
on my back for like a week or so? Because hitting
those ropes to get adjusted to them was just
so tough Yeah, of course you had you create the
callus and all that stuff exactly what Raymond
said last week I saw the podcast last February,
uh, so yeah with the callus and all that. So
I mean just going at it then uh Soon enough soon
enough. I think it was probably towards the end
of the year or before the next year going into
2016 where I was like, all right, you're having
your first match in the rub And we're like, oh
here we go. Let's fucking go. I mean, let's I
got me tights I got like got some cool tights
got this other cool shit like like everything
was going good until the day of my debut oh yeah
and this is where i want to go what was that
like man what was running through your mind before
you actually stepped into that ring so so the
day of my debut of course i mean it's sometimes
it's it's Somehow it's an unwritten ritual or
something like that. So when it comes to you
the debut I was getting ready. I got my tights
on what I was putting on my kick pads at the
time My shoes. Well, I do a stretch. I just stretch
like a squat. Oh my god. Oh I was like you gotta
be fucking kidding me. No way. I was like you
shitty you're tight. Yeah so i so i i started
looking around you know grabbing my uh thighs
and everything right then sure enough i have
a hole right like right in the middle uh in the
middle like right in the middle i would take
it as a new gimmick I just didn't I just didn't
know I was freaking out the time. I think at
that time being a rookie I think in the locker
room was Teddy Hart and some other some other
guys Big shout out to Joseph Lee Cruz man saying
Sean 100 % But yeah, no so at that time I just
didn't know what to do so I went to go ask Tony
another shout out to Tony Yeah, so he luckily
he had types that he has he never warned or anything
like that So he gave me his tights for the night.
Oh, shoot. Here we go. But the only thing was
is that it had his name on the back. It had Tony
Shaw. Well, that just goes into a whole different
podcast right there. So of course, I mean, that's
why I gave him a shout out because I mean, if
it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be able to debut.
So I mean. So yes, I came out I mean it was wearing
blue black lucky I mean it was it was small print
But you can still see like where it's that strong
on there. Yeah, so So yeah, no, it was it was
a fun fun time by in that rumble. I mean stayed
in there for Think five minutes tops From there
on was just wrestling wrestling wrestling wrestling
those those types should be the traveling traveling
tights of Wrestling for you now me you gotta
you gotta pay it forward man when someone new
comes in there I Mean any time anybody needs
anything. I mean I have I mean luckily I have
a Just washing for me Well, that's cool. So you
go in there for the first time in a royal, right?
Sorry, so you're in there like I said you step
into the ring for the first time I mean, do you
go automatically let's go or was you was it a
hesitant moment or did so just grab? Until I
stopped I mean so I got thrown out. I mean that's
Luckily, I'm partially like half not blind, but
I can't see I can't see I can't see anybody person
in front of me. So I'm going like until my guy
until I get told I That's crazy, bro. That's
awesome. So your first official match was like
a Royal Rumble that you got tossed in first.
Now, through the years that you're doing this,
as far as past your first step in the ring, fortunately
with all your buddies in there kicking the living
crap out of each other, but now moving years
forward, a couple of maybe months or weeks forward,
When's the first time Shawn gets his first official
debut on his own in the ring that was That was
a while until Because after I am debuted after
I debuted in the rumble. I started doing a tag
team tag team with my brother Jay Williams he
We and him were called the smoking dragons. That's
awesome. That's a badass name. Yeah, I mean the
multiple reasons I mean, uh because I mean double
dragons all like everything that everything that
was like, you know, maybe it was that brother
and brother gimmick type, right? Right, right.
Um, so doing all that stuff, uh, then at the
moment where I was able to do a Seagulls run
of just Shawn Jones was when I was able to cut
him off and join the Renegades of Wrestling,
which was with Badana Joe, which is Avito Rios
and Colvin. Oh, OK. From that time, that's where
I was able to be like, all right, who is Shawn
Jones? Well, Shawn Jones is a... There's a renegade
now, you know, he's the renegade Sean Jones,
right? then I was called the Judas of the renegades
because since I betrayed my brother so I mean
So I just you know Judas rebel all this things
have just and sticked with me So it's just you
know, just a lifestyle that I just went ahead
and adapted. That's crazy, man That's pretty
question being Called uh, I guess you will not
really cool but being called a something to torch
judas itself. That's a hardcore. Yeah That's
a scarred letter to somebody. Yeah, I mean it
is uh, it is uh, but Uh, it was it was a fun
time. I mean around that time getting getting
used to it, you know actually going out with
with them to uh out of town it was a fun time
I mean I wouldn't take that back at all it got
to make me learn about the business then so like
when I left and came back I already knew what
to do and what and how to help like the new guys
right right right to go out and travel I mean
almost every weekend I have have a carload of
them I mean it's just a way for me just to just
to give back and what was given to me in the
stands so I mean it's always like Like it's a
it's always a fun time to do that. Yeah now take
us the name Rebel rock or how I mistaken Sean
the rebel Jones It's all because again like I
get like everything Everything was everything
is mostly against me in the way, right? I mean
personal eyes, you know wrestling wise, you know,
every everybody in a way is Always tries to overlook
me in a way and you know and and and to not be
overlooked Sometimes you have to be a rebel.
I mean again, I mean the rock of course. I love
metal. I love rock I love anything that that
can make me fucking go but like the rebel is
more deep down wise is is a person not to be
overlooked. I mean, because again, we have great
talent here. So that's how the name resonated
for that. Yeah, because I wanted to come back
and come back with a big statement. I've seen
your intro man. I've seen your intro a couple
of times. I've gone to new breed I've seen your
intro here with combat code also and the intro
is it's intense because you walk in you're like
you're mind your business and once you get that
ring It's like a switch. Yeah, it flips on and
you just go. Yeah It's like I mean those old
videos of me wrestling at the time wrestling
revolution Watching that then then what I'm doing
now is is a very night and day situation, right?
because again, I've I took that mental time to
step away to come back more prepared come back
more vicious come back Just not give it a fuck.
Yeah, and that's the thing about About today
a lot of people care too much. Mm -hmm and you
know you know, just instead of just coming in,
hey, I'm here to, I'm here to just fuck shit
up, have a good, good time and go home. I mean,
that's why you did that. Now we knock the crap
out of fuckers and go, I understand. I mean,
I mean, shit has to happen. I mean, shit just
has to happen. Um, but yeah, no, it's just that
it's, it's that mentality. Like a lot of guys
just don't have that anymore. Right. Uh, that's
what I've noticed. Do you do you feel now now
we're coming to the now a little bit towards
the now uh a segment Do you feel that uh, I know
you've rushed some different promotions. Yeah.
All right, uh, I don't like I said before uh
combat cult is one of those promotions where
it's more of a All balls out. Yeah, you know
It's it's it's entertaining for everybody but
more like I want to say kudos to eddie like yeah,
you know for letting me be a part of combat cult
to let to let a different side of me come out.
Right. Right. I mean, that's where I can actually
pretty much all balls out. Yeah. Balls out. I
mean, like I've gone down to do things. Minus
the torn. Yes. You know, whatever. I mean, if
it happens, it happens. I mean, it's it's it's
art, baby. I mean, you know, shout out to Eddie,
you know, for letting me be different than other
other places. Right. Right. Right. For letting
me, you know, just like. like this let me go
balls to the walls i mean i've i mean i've called
out people from combat i mean i called out baroncho
i called out other guys just to be like hey let's
fucking go right right i mean i'd like um uh
i mean like yeah i lost my title again it's fucking
uh mooncat and daniel but i mean it was stolen
Yeah, we've got stole thing I didn't get pinned
you the cat. Yes cats are the most horrible animals
But yeah, no, so then then that gets stolen from
a guy who's not even from here right from my
valley like like he he's from what is it uh probably
like eight hours away you know from dallas i
mean come on like like it when he comes down
and and if danny beats him i'm gonna i'm gonna
beat the hell living hell again and take that
title right right right right or if demo ends
up keeping it i mean i'm gonna i'm gonna end
up beating the hell out of me right Exactly.
So like February 22nd, we have the combat culture.
Oh, OK, OK, OK. So I think it's a fear for the
Reaper. You know what? I'm not on it. I'm going
to be honest with you. I'm not booked for that
show. But the thing is, I'm going to be looking
very closely at that match. Be among among the
crowd may just really close. Yeah, really close
I mean I might I might be in the back might be
in the crowd might be in the damn rafters as
a as they call it I mean I might be an even underneath
the ring I mean, I'm gonna get back my best friend
and no Martin. It's not gonna be that stupid
toxic That's gonna be my best friend, which is
little self. There you go Hey that that's gonna
be coming back to me. I got you and I'm gonna
be the best champion again for combat call That's
awesome, man. That's all now speaking of combat
cult itself The opponents that you the roster
itself. It's uh, it's an empty roster So far
that you've been wrestling in that promotion,
who do you say is one of the most uh I'm not
gonna say toughest but difficult hands down.
I would say mo and lu I have rustled both of
them I have wrestled both of them and hands down
most toughest brutal guys that I've wrestled
with, but I love it. I mean, I've come home,
I come home like shaken after like just because
of the injuries that I probably have. I mean,
it's that brutalness that keeps me alive in a
way. I mean, I've told them multiple times that
I see them. We're going, we're going to go one
on one. I don't care who it is. Like we're going
mad at it again. I mean, it's fun. Then I haven't
stepped in with but I'm I mean stepping in with
brick I'm just looking at looking at this dude.
I mean, he's You know kudos kudos to you, you
know my god my gun club gun gang Not once, I
believe twice. Yeah, so I mean like they like
he has felt. So I mean, I'm pretty sure it's
been one time. Dude, oh by the way big shout
outs to uh mo and uh, uh, I believe uh conn I
believe that's that was lu lu lu. Yeah, i'm sorry,
uh mo and lu man We're supposed to have them
on the podcast. Unfortunately our uh invite for
our uh online interview video interview wasn't
working Uh, we are gonna schedule them hopefully
for next month to come uh to get them on on video
and have that interview man But yeah, big shout
out. Thank you for understanding you guys appreciate
it. Uh, but yeah, man, that's crazy that you
I mean Going in and you're talking about the
what's called this gun the gun game gun game
with Chris Austin and DTF downtown Felix Yes,
I've been I've been hearing a lot about that.
We talked about that earlier Where we you were
saying that it's in different promotions that
you guys are kind of scattered in right now.
Yeah, but Not saying when not saying down the
line the future It just might happen to Something
like maybe like an invasion or something or I
mean again, I mean we're we're everywhere. Let's
just put it that way I mean if we're if one person
is at a combat show where they were at a newbri
show where they were at But doing a show where
they show it doesn't matter. It does not matter
even a PLP show I mean like just it does not
matter what promotion as long as you have The
rebel rock you have DTF you have the dream -killing
I mean as long as you have one of us booked on
your show gun games day. I'm kind of scared I'm
gonna have to figure out how I get all three
of you guys here one We can make it happen. We
can make it happen and we can call some shit.
We're gonna have to pull some strings from a
couple of people here and see if we can get them
all nominated here. Hold on one second. I got
something here. I think somebody might have called
in. Somebody's actually gonna call in. Let me
see. I'll find out right now. I just got my phone
just went off. No, no. Like always, always scared
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Sean here, we're talking about what's to come.
Further down the line with combat cult you said
there you were Your next match won't be until
February you said I would be getting books for
combat. I know it's gonna be at a future date.
I'm pretty sure a couple of like next month or
a couple of months But no, but this this show
that's coming up fear the Reaper for combat cult
It's gonna be February 22nd at the Sino Ray in
McAllen, Texas That one I'm gonna be I'm gonna
be very close closely watching which is gonna
be at the South Texas South Texas combat cult
champion. So that's the title that I lost a little
south Okay, so I'm gonna watch that one very
closely that one's gonna be with the demo versus
daddy Denny's Okay, yeah any any words for the
actual person who? Took your your loving title
I mean, I'll give you the floor if you really
I mean if you've been watching on Facebook I
mean, I've been going at it with demo for a while
He we're supposed to have a match probably last
year of the year before and he never showed so
so coming in now taking my title and taking it
back to the Dallas area that doesn't fly with
me so demo like again I'm going to be watching
very closely I might be in the back I might be
in the sitting you know in the fans area I might
sit in the rafters I might even be underneath
the ring I mean you better be watching your back
and I don't care if you have an army or anything
like that Mean I'm a one -man game, baby. Even
though I have the gun game. I'm also a one -man
game. So I mean you You're just holding my baby
for a while. It sounds like you have one locked
in the chamber already ready to go Oh, yeah,
I've always had one in the chamber always Ready
to go. Let's do this man. So Let me ask you about
Rushmore of wrestlers. If you had a choice to
build your own Mount Rushmore of wrestlers from,
well, I mean, from any time. It could be either
someone local, it could be, you know, people
that are right now, passed away wrestlers. Who's
your Mount Rush one, man? Of course, I got Terry
Funk up in there, Stan Hanson, those guys, Rob
Van Dam, Austin, then I think for the last one
is Jericho. Yeah, just because he has he can
reinvent himself like from decades after decades.
Yeah That I mean that has to be up on your that
name has been floating around like crazy, bro
We don't I mean we I've seen the reports I've
gone in I've nosedive into where he's at Supposedly
he is still signed with There's a no show. He's
not there He again he was holding the company
down as soon as I mean it started so I mean you
got you got To let it I guess what's that saying?
To want them back more and you got you got to
forget about them, right? So you have to Right
back you like because again now we're talking
about them talking about always you showing up
here. Yeah I mean he's just chilling at home
or doing his podcast doing his things and he's
like guys I mean I'm coming when I want to come
back because you're seeing all these you're seeing
all these retirements happening bro right and
you're like Don't need to do any other Other
things to make him a goat status. I mean, it's
just it's just like this is what he is. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true It's it's it's already imprinted
on him. Oh, yeah from day one, though The guy
the guy's amazing, especially the whole list
game. I love There was an action figure, the
Mattel action figure of Jericho where he flipped
it around, it had everything on that list. The
figure had it with the list, the pin and everything,
it flipped all in the back. It had everything,
like Dean Ambrose had like a goat face guy, which
was Daniel Bryan. It had Kevin Owens and it had
it scratched off. No, no, he's my best friend.
It was just like stupid stuff. Okay, no, it makes
sense. One of the craziest matches that you've
ever had that still sits at number one in your
In your bookcase something that's on your book
is on your mantle that you say this was the match
I have yet to top Had a couple I mean usually
the ones that I had fun funds were mostly toxic
were coming back Back in the day we back in the
day when I was with the renegades we did a Hardcore
match was it was for the tags and titles. So
of course we had reacting like the free birds
Balls off the wall like who said we went to tables.
I ended up gushing to the back of my school.
Oh my god Like it was just one of those like
mayhem like just dress if he's everything goes
pretty much everything goes It was a bit at the
time was it goes against con and con hoc and
cult caliber Me and the renegades versus Tony
strong on wala so So that I mean that was a hectic
one Worse one that you said Jesus never speak
of this again God never again will this happen.
I mean I'm trying to think because I mean maybe
back back when I was went to a wrestling radio,
uh, was back over for a company called LWA. But
I mean, that was long time ago, but, uh, at the
same time I was green, I was green as grass.
So I mean, in both ways, it was, it was a, like
a, like a 50 50 where I was like, all right,
this kid's sick. I mean, let's just not. Like
a miscommunication the ring or there was just
there was no chemistry No chemistry with it.
I mean it was simple like I know the kid wanted
to do so much But again like it's better to do
less than more To get the crowd just to get the
crowd with you So so maybe in the hill I was
doing more of my hillish it which was at the
time wasn't really, you know Do in holes game
with the crowd doing all that stuff right right
right and Laredo it's more lucha quick at the
time I did it really wasn't functioned with lucha
as much So it was just that little chemistry
where I where I needed to learn more I'm doing
lucha than the guy needed to work on his So it's
just that little mix up most gruesome match you've
had to i mean a bloody mess like you would say
is like dude this one was there was that one
i just mentioned uh with the the the tag team
the heart uh it was at like the hardcore horror
show uh that one uh that was the gashing of the
head what what happened take me through that
so oh my gosh so when he hit me once a slightly
connected and then when he hit me again i guess
it folded in a way so the the pointy in Gajd
and made a nice smiley face. So like whenever
I shake my head, like you'll see a big smiley
face in the back of my head. Oh my god. Like
I never got that healed. Well, I mean, he healed
on his own. Never got his sister. Never went
to the hospital. I just went home and my, uh,
my, uh, wife, girlfriend at the time, she, all
she did was put Neil's horn wrapped in it. I
mean, it was just like, I slept, like I stayed
up probably until like three. I slept and I had
a drive to go to another town to go wrestling.
Jesus it was just like yeah, probably should
have called out but I was like, no, I mean like
I'm an idiot. So I'm gonna drive I think I think
just for further further reference on something
like that later down the line if one day you
decide to go bold I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm just throwing it out there. I think you should
get that scar tattooed with a smiley face on
it. I mean, yeah, I can go, I can do the whole
bad bad big alone. Just get the whole thing.
I can do what he does with this little dumb paint.
That's crazy, dude. My God, I can only imagine
how much. You mentioned a wife girlfriend at
the time yeah when you have those special someone's
watching you at your match your mom if your mom's
ever gone to your matches She used to Like she
would freak out once in a while I mean to like
again, I'm physically getting hurt. So I mean,
this isn't this isn't that way. Exactly It's
real. I mean like like I just told I told you
off -camera like I just went to a chiropractor
today yes tell us a little bit about that i know
you're gonna want that bring that up i mean i've
been i kind of have been like like a little hurting
here and there so i went to a chiropractor today
and like he just legit told me he's like well
your pelvis is out of place like it's like like
it's it's shifted and i'm like oh shit i'm like
let's go ahead and fix it up so luckily he luckily
he was able to re -injust me that i mean i'm
i feel much straighter that i like well i guess
much taller than i have right couple of days
uh i still have a little bit of like disorderedness
but i mean i should be fine by tomorrow what'd
you do doctor put a lego in there and straighten
me out i mean like he took my neck i mean human
balls to the walls i see video of that bro i
mean it looks It's awesome I self crack myself,
but it's just like I rather have like a professional
right right right I've seen the pool where they
put that thing around your neck and they like
So far You've been in so many promotions. I don't
want to put any promotion on the spot Say which
is the best words in that cuz I'm not I'm not
about to do that. I'm not opposed I'm not about
to put you at that situation I was getting put
in spots. No, not this time. That's this time
No, cuz I don't think it's fair cuz all the promotions
that no, that's why I mean I was gonna just gonna
say I mean every promotion is unique. I mean
right ears You know those guys who? love storytelling
this guys who love matches there's guys who who
want you to do this well guys want you to do
this so i mean it's it's a again like new breed
combat night and day um yeah uh new breed we're
more family friend more more entertainment wise
want to do a lot of combat it's just like let's
go like i mean you know if you have kids Maybe
have kids guard their eyes. I mean Yeah, like
I mean you don't like I mean if you're really
if you're really gonna be offended I mean it's
whatever I mean just right don't go like none
of that stuff because because we do at combat
we do go balls to the walls we do have the profanity
which I mean right we're all grown -ups I mean
kids say batters every day so I mean it's it
is what it is what it fucking is right right
there so I mean but in a new breed we do we do
keep it more more family friendly more yeah more
pg where where we do focus on the storytelling
where where guys do know where they need to be
where they need to what they need to do because
again like i've said it i said uh numerous times
you know the fans do pay their money to see good
things yeah exactly they they spend a hard hard
earns to go spend a couple hours just to watch
and watch some good times you know uh good wrestling
you know people talking shit to each other, you
know, fan interaction. And so I mean, like everybody,
everybody wants that in a way. So no, I can't,
I can't shine down any company. I can't really
say anything bad. I mean, it's always been fun.
I mean, this is at the end of the day, this is
my job. Like I do get paid for this. I don't
just say, Hey, you know, I'm just here for shits
and giggles. No, I get paid for this. Right.
So I mean, so again, Again, it's it's awesome
for every company that I look for. It's cool,
man Because I'm like I said, I've have seen your
intro seen a couple of your matches I'll actually
got the honor to to commenting one with your
buddies the not for five six guys manager those
are and he's and he's a treat to be and Seen
that seen those matches, bro. They they're they're
fun to watch They're fun to watch because I've
seen you go all ball There's a couple of them
where I've seen you on on both brands where you
just go all balls out. You don't care You're
there to do a job and you bring their entertainment
to the fans and they love it and you can hear
a couple of yelling their Name your name when
you're up there. Oh, yeah It's awesome, it's
awesome bike again i'm alone i'm more of like
hey i know that i'm good like don't it's fine
for me right yeah i remember i mean i don't you
guys weren't there the fans weren't there until
i started i started whooping ass right right
so i mean like would you consider yourself a
heel or a face the way you see it i get that
question a lot thank you for bringing that up
yeah in a way in a way it's a It's a tell of
a coin. It depends how I wake up in the morning.
If I want to look somebody's ass, all right,
well, I'm looking somebody's ass. It's like heads
that win, tails that lose, my kind of thing.
I mean, yeah, it depends on how the rebel feels
that day. Right, right. So if he feels, you know,
I won't do that much, okay, I won't be that versatile.
But hey, if it caught me on a bad day, I mean...
So basically we see you Somewhere you're drinking
a beer. You're like, okay, it's it's a bad day
You see you walk around having a bowl of ice
cream You see him walking around with a six -pack
it's a great day So now we can I know you were
talking about the gang Yeah, the gun gang gun
gang. Yeah, we're talking about them now. What
is the How did that I mean how did that form
we noticed we've noticed a lot of new people
coming a lot of newbies a lot of guys who think
that they're hushed So, I mean, you know at the
time, you know Austin and feel Austin and Felix
there were already kind of a group, you know
and and they they just noticed they noticed me
you know by myself like in uh like in like just
in the phantom zone just walking around doing
nothing just like us being pissed off because
other guys are getting opportunities to say i've
always been here long enough to actually has
who actually can out out rustle half these people
So, I mean, you have a guy just walking around
not doing anything. They came up to approach
me saying, hey, you know, they approached me
in the middle of the rain. They called me out.
They approached me saying, hey, you know, they've
seen me walking around kind of doing nothing.
Well, let's change that. Let's take back what
we are. Which is beast, you know, so again we
we take before we ask questions So, I mean we
have guys which is felix, which is the grand
warrior at new breed You have chris austin who
is the citrus? Champion and the crown of hutuna,
uh, then me of course former. I was a former
south texas champion and a former Russell shop
tag team champion, right? So that's out of state.
I mean out of town. I'm sorry. Uh, so I mean
that's that proves the the hardship that's in
this group, but yet we get set aside a lot, which
makes no sense, you know? So that's why we decided
to form and change up the game here. That's interesting.
I understand you. It's pretty much a unity between
a couple of us and, hey, we're tired of being
unseen. Now I'll show you that we're here. Yeah.
Pretty much what you're trying to say. Yeah.
That's crazy, man. anybody else try to approach
to be in this this unity or these have to be
selected by you guys but we but we have somebody
in mind that's that's all I can say that there
is somebody that's gonna that's around us that
that we can't say at the moment yeah all right
so next thing I'm gonna take you back to I think
it was in October We oh there's somebody texting.
Oh, don't worry about it. They haven't called
it. So don't worry about it I don't think Martin
will have the balls to call me there, but uh
Cuz we'll talk about his boy That in particular
night that while we're doing the interview you
came in Was this planned or it's just something
you knew where he was gonna be at you knew you
had eyes in him already or Right there on the
wall he says if my son love you mom You raised
a great boy, a rebel, but a great boy. Turned
into a strong man. My brother freaked out when
you came in. fall to the ground my cameras went
out of whack i tried to focus in as much as i
could while the beatdown was going down which
was by by the way thank you for the amazing footage
my brother was Like I said, man, he's terrified.
I mean, again, I think I saw him for like a second
and I think I saw a little bit of tears. I mean,
he popped up and he goes, do we get him? Yeah,
yeah. I think I've heard that. I had to rewatch
it and I think he said, do we get him? I'm like,
who did you guys love before? I mean, God, buddy.
You guys haven't seen that episode. That was
like one of the craziest episodes ever in our
podcast besides besides Frank the Tank shooting
a load on the shoe. That's a whole different
story. And don't know. Was that after hours?
Yeah, it was after hours. We got it on camera.
Had the Prince theme on it. But yeah, man, it
was great. Oh, she's sitting. She's laughing.
She's just sitting in her room. There you go.
That's rebel mom right there. So in all and all.
So far in your career, what would you rate yourself,
bro? I mean, you're an incoming fan. They see
you for the first time. How would you rate yourself
up there? I mean, and be honest about it. No,
I'm going to be honest. Be honest, man. I mean,
it would be a 10. No, it's a 10. I mean, I'm
not going to lie. The style that I've changed
up a lot. So, I mean, that would be like a hard
set in the eight. Like, just... good enough for
a fan can come up to be like, good shit. That's
good shit. I believe the fuck out of you. Cause
I do get that. I get that a lot, which I love.
I mean, because again, like sometimes, sometimes,
uh, sometimes real, real shit is real. I mean,
it's, it's good shit. It's like, have you seen
guys on there? Have you seen the guy's chest
after they leave their match? I mean, this, this
baby right here is, is real. So I'm not gonna
lie bro. Those those chops bro. They're Wow,
they're intense. They're intense. Yeah, I mean
that's I I take them so I mean why not why not
deliver and you know, I've heard so far of all
the events that I've gone to have seen that quite
a few chops being given and I at first hearing
Felix for the first time give out a chop Sweet
Jesus, that thing echoed. I've done was to moon
cat was at the citrus life when I was going to
get something out there as well Okay, that was
probably the most loudest I've ever done it with
the acoustics. Just yes That's crazy That thing
echoes bro Phoenix mentioned he he beat the living
crap out of that 12 year old kid. What's the
I'm like hey man Make sure I don't celebrate
with you guys anytime soon. I like my playing
chess just fine But yeah, I've heard I've heard
you chop quite a few people and they they do
resonate I mean, I've seen the overhand and I
Believe you go across. I did the nine -inch jobs.
Yeah, I did the Ricky's been both. Yes the Ric
Flair chops the the ones that So I tell people
I go for sound not not hardness, but I mean the
way you get sounds Going back to professional
going to professional wrestling. Also, I've heard
stories from Chelsea Green when she had the match
against Yeah, and when they wrestled an underground
Probably most of the most safest chops, but I
mean, I'm pretty sure they're brutal Yeah, and
she says she says it was loud enough and hard
enough, but the most safest chop I've ever received
and I've seen that match I think like five times
yeah i mean the things that chelsea green can
can do is is amazing i think she i think they
are holding that talent back too far they need
to release her i mean i mean it's been it's been
thrown around i mean you've read the sheets as
well yeah as some people say like they're holding
her down but i mean like she's happy the thing
is if she's happy what she's doing right and
and she's still getting that publicity i think
she's out now because she broke her ankle yeah
something with an ankle uh but i mean like just
think of the pop when she comes back i mean when
she comes back it's it's gonna push her to yeah
yeah i mean that's what's gonna happen Yeah,
man, it's crazy, bro. I mean i've seen that match
a hundred times and penta has this wicked Chomp
on her man. I'm like even his brother even ray
phoenix do though. Yes The time that they would
rustle down here for uh for uh lucha company.
I mean they live in person bro Same shit just
live just loud loud That's crazy and one more.
I mean, I got we're 57 minutes into the podcast
I'm gonna give you one more last question here.
Um the grand final question If Shawn, the rebel,
okay, the rebel, Rebel Jones, was not wrestling
at the moment, and his life took a detour, what
would he be doing right now as you speak? I mean,
I mean, what I'm probably doing now, I mean,
so when I wasn't wrestling for a while, I was
doing jiu -jitsu, so I was doing that every so
often to just... Just to get that Julian rush
out of my out of my system and all that stuff,
so I'll probably going back to do that If not,
just taking care of a fan. I mean my family here
and there what I what I've been doing for the
whole entire life Just you know just other than
wrestling there was there any any other hobby
that you would you would have? uh followed uh
i did do a little bit of uh did play a little
music played a little bit of punk bands here
and there playing bass guitar here and there
there you go so i mean i mean i would probably
be doing rock band doing some uh You know rock
band stuff going to downtown McAllen It suits
you, it suits you Sean Oh yeah, I've been told
I can't say I'm really good at the bass but I
mean like I can dabble where it's like alright
I can pass through I can be like fucking Hawk
Hogan saying that oh I played for Metallica There
you go, there you go So any... Words of wisdom
from The Rock Rebel Sean Jones for your fans
in here that are watching tonight any last words
for you, buddy? I mean just Look life man. I
mean because again do we only have one so I mean
do what you want to do? Passion lies like I'm
doing what I'm doing I'm partying myself every
freaking weekend, so I mean It's the passion
the heart that I have for this business Where
I want to show the younger younger younger generation
of this of the valley or just any guys that I
meet in general that I mean the passion that
you love the The things that you do for the for
a business or or a hobby whatever it will treat
you back with that Well, yeah, no, that's that's
mostly what Well said guys if you weren't looking
at that screen right now, there's a QR code right
there Click on that bad boy right there that
will take you to everything Shawn is doing, where
he's going to be promoting, where he'll be wrestling.
You know, stick to him. Follow him on Facebook.
Oh, social media. Social media's, man. Talk to
all your socials. So social media -wise, Instagram's
going to be RubberRockShawnJones. Of course,
my Facebook is going to be my real name, which
is going to be Shawn Ayala. I use both. Well,
RubberJones is mostly from here to San Antonio,
whatever, Austin to Houston that I get called
Shawn. yellow over there. So I got some big shows
coming up in this month which is going to be
on the 21st of February I'm going to Laredo for
Battle House promotions. the 27th it's going
to be at the citrus all pro wrestling which is
going to be in Edinburgh as well then I have
local underground so I'll be debuting for local
underground in Houston for their for their local
one -night stand so that's that's going to be
pretty awesome and it's going to be very very
hectic that's that's awesome though that's that's
good that you're spreading your wings not just
here in the RGB but north northwest I've been
told I've been told Uh, not once but multiple
times the best way to promote yourself is to
get out There's to get out go and show people
what you can do because again valley the valley
guys here And again, this is all to everybody.
We have great talent that needs to be shown everywhere
But if you guys do the moves it would work. There
you go. There you go. Sean all I can say from
My end and from uh chewing myself will say man.
Keep doing what you're doing, bro great at what
you do. You know, the the talent, the sportsman
talent you have in there, the entertainment,
you give the fans, it's something to watch. Thank
you. And it's it's something that brings back
the old school stuff when they used to watch
Stone Cold walk into the freaking building, didn't
give a rat's ass about anybody else but himself.
And I'm kicking everybody's ass. And if they
were in my way, you're just another brick in
the wall and knock down. No offense, brick. No
offense. He said it very not me It was a misunderstanding.
Oh great. I'm on the hit list. You just make
the list But uh, but uh all I can say man, nothing
but promise uphill battles for you man and get
up to the mountaintop and when you're up there
make sure you scream your name out so it can
be heard from time to time all the way through
man. God bless you bro. Hopefully everything
works out for you. Ladies and gentlemen, that
is our podcast for tonight with Mr. Shawn Jones.
Blessing us here in the podcast. Thank god. He
didn't kick anybody's ass. I'm pretty sure chew
my brother here probably would have gone through
one of the tables or gone the couch I would have
heard him. Yeah, he would have heard him. Yeah.
Yes. Thank you miss miss rebel. Yes awesome show
Thank you so much for tuning in But uh, all I
can say is oh, wait a minute before we go Before
we go. I know I said I have a mo and aloo for
next month if I'm pretty sure it'll be up right,
but You have the opportunity right now Sean to
nominate Somebody come in 9 March But for April
for a comeback call before a comeback for a comeback
call who would you like to nominate? Oh, man,
there's so many guys so many guys You know about
this How does that be one person? Well, this
is where you have the chance to So how about
this how about instead of one we'll do three.
All right, we'll do three a three -man group
and and what i'm thinking i'm thinking on having
the gun gang here we go thinking about having
uh dtf and chris austin up here with there you
go you've heard it for sure in two in a podcast
you will have The gun gang in the podcast in
april So write that on your schedule get that
going i'll take out the details for you So you
can have that up and running we have them in
and it's been nominated austin felix You've been
called out. You gotta come in. Uh, once again,
thank you so much. I appreciate you having here,
man Guys, we will tune in next week. We have
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Octagon, Phoenix, all these luchadores traveling
in the school bus going to and out of town. He
says he has tons of stories for us. So next week,
Thursday, 730p, you're going to want to tune
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