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Well, what's going on guys? Welcome back to another
Thursday night at 7 .30 p .m. on the Chew and
Who Podcast. I want to say thank you to everybody
tuning in tonight. It's gonna be an interesting
one. We got a great guest with us tonight, man.
Chew, I know we missed you last week. Yeah. Quez
and I went on live from LaValle, took a little
chit chat here. It was a good episode. It was
a terrible episode. No, it was actually pretty
good because you weren't here. No, I didn't.
But anyway, got a lot of fans out there. They
didn't say, where's Chew? He died. Great. But
anyways, let's do tonight's show, guys. We have
then chance was nominated this person to come
up here and it's gonna be an interesting one
because we got a lot of questions to Really find
out how Danny was or who Danny was when he was
a kid And I know for some reason being the big
brother, right? I remember thinking being the
big brother I know there's a lot of awesome big
brother events growing up because I know I did
with my my little brother but First time on the
pot, I'm mistaken, right? Yes, sir. That's correct.
Oh my gosh, dude. Did you find the place OK?
Everything all right? It was good. Churches earlier
across the street. There you go. Eat some chicken,
some good old fashioned chicken. You were going
here. They give you the good chicken, right?
Now welcome to the pod bro. Welcome to the pod,
bro. I know like I said, we were nominated by
Danny He wants you to come on and talk to us
for a little bit because he was that episode
by the way if Danny's watching that episode hit
number one in the World Podcast Network, New
York, man. Yeah, they got he got nominated for
Selected Choice by the editors over there and
all the creative people that listen to our podcast.
And it was number one on the chart. And I was
like, wow, man, that's awesome. So make your
ways, man. Make your ways everywhere we go. But
anyways, let's get to meet and greet Raymond.
Tell us a little bit about yourself. Where you
grew up and how many times did you beat up Danny
Droid? Because if you ask him, he skips a couple
of years. We were actually born in Mexico. And
then my parents moved over here for work and
everything. And we got actually raised in the
Chicagoland area. Nice. Wow. So a little bit
north of Chicago. Bears! Danny's a bear fan.
Go Bears! I had a weird one, but let's not go
there. We grew up in the Chicago area about five
minutes from the border of Wisconsin. So very
cold more often than not. Yeah, I believe it.
I believe it. Yeah. Northern states. Yeah, there's
a lot of cold weather. Yeah, man. So what I mean,
growing up through the years, I mean, what got
you into what got you into wrestling? What I
mean, consider the fact, I know your childhood
years growing up, you got your friends and all
that good. But what really draw your attention
to become, to follow wrestling? My dad, when
we were little, he would take me and my sister,
or my brother, so he would stay home, you know,
baby. Right. That would take us to the then Rosemont
Horizon. Now it's called the Allstate Arena in
Chicago. Okay, okay. And yeah, we'd go on when
they would record SmackDown on Tuesdays and show
it on Fridays. Oh, no shit. Yeah, so after school,
my dad would be like, hey, I'm gonna take you
and your cousin to Throw it with my horizon when
I watch wrestling, you know. They haven't just
watched the classics, man. Vibes in person. Man,
that's awesome, bro. I actually catch some of
those, man. What matches were? I mean, it's,
you're talking about years ago, uh, when like
The Rock first started. I remember him showing
up one time in his demo and throwing candy. Really?
Out the, uh, out the limo. And then, uh, I got
a picture of Owen Hart. Oh, dude. It's on my
Facebook, actually. I had a picture of him. Where
we were sitting he was like looking over the
walking of the ramp right where they came out.
I think it was Farooq and Bradshaw. I forgot
who they were facing but Owen Hart was just watching
and my sister was like, hey it's Owen Hart. We
just went over there and took a picture. To be
in that era, especially with Owen, speaking of
Owen Hart, to be in that era though, considering
the way it ended for him was pretty devastating,
but to have seen him. Live like you did that's
that's freaking is that my agent was that a turning
point for you? When your dad would change or
the rest is just that you really wanted to do
something different in high school that you do
wrestling itself Well in high school. Yeah, but
I grew up I don't know if you watch my wrestling
style. It's more technical. I love real hard
for watching perform Right. It was an excellence
of execution. So that's why every time I trained
practice anything It was like I got a perfect
technique perfect technique right to me. So it
was always constant then um sure enough high
school came around did uh high school wrestling
for three years over in uh zine illinois and
then uh we watched tough enough when the first
came out and me and my brother we tell my dad
like hey we want to do wrestling and it was always
the same thing like oh you need to have size
so we're gonna size uh did he have money to go
to the school in chicago to go to the school
in chicago i said you have transportation so
the big old thing is like So we both did high
school wrestling wanting to be professional wrestlers.
But we wanted to go to the dungeon, dad. We wanted
to go to the dungeon. It was all sports. We'd
go playing baseball, football, except for soccer.
I got you. It was all sports growing up and just
watching wrestling and TV wanting to be wrestlers,
but never having the chance to actually go to
Chicago and start asking questions. Moved down
here in 2009. Okay, and then so once I moved
down here My parents were like, hey, we want
to move down there to them. It's Corpus So I
was here by myself family was in Corpus with
my mom dad sister brother and then yeah, so what
got me in was I Moved down with my cousin and
he was all like hey, I saw on Craigslist a post
saying there's lucha training at the free market
over on mile four in Conway and Alton. Oh, okay,
okay, okay. This is back in 09 and I was like,
I don't like Lucha. I wasn't a fan of Lucha.
I never like focused on it. My focus was pro
wrestling American style. I wanted WWE, EWF stuff.
Right, right, right. And nothing, nothing, nothing.
And then 2011 came around. My brother -in -law,
ex -brother -in -law now, by the time brother
-in -law, he was like, hey, let's go check out
the wrestling on Sunday at the Alton free market.
So we go check it out. It was just the Lucia
the Lucia guys. Okay, cool. And then he was hey,
there's training here on Tuesdays and Thursdays
I don't know if you saw that. Okay, I was like
Well, listen, let's message the guy so we message
the person that put up the post which was you
know two years later when we saw it was Actually,
I don't know. Okay. Okay. Okay. It was bandana
Joe, right? You know what's going on who's that?
We'll be there from seven and then on Tuesday
just show up and you know, the the security guy
let you in So I go with my brother -in -law all
the time. And I walk in, and sure enough, it's
Lucha guys. I messaged Alvaro, like, hey, we're
here. Where you at? He goes, I'll be there right
now. Just wait for these guys. Well, I'm Mexican,
right? And I see these two white guys come in.
And of course, the Lucha guys, they move out
the way. They're done training. Those two guys
get in, and they start doing American -style
pro wrestling. And I was like, that's what I
want to do. Oh, OK, OK. So Alvaro gets there.
We start talking. Yeah, man. So I get in the
ring. Start now learning some stuff learning
it quick. All right, here we go. And then I was
like, hey What's the age limit? So what do you
mean? I'm like, well, I'm 21 a better 16. It
was 15 turn It was our February 2011. I had just
turned 21. He's five years younger. He was 15
about a turn 16, right? With the pressure mission.
Hey, you come so I was there the first week I
brought him a second week and after that it was
just every Tuesday and Thursday training, wrestling
at the flea market. It was just nothing but pro
wrestling after that. No more playing sports.
You know, you want to get hurt and then you can't
train anymore. You have to perform live. So it's
like, hey, you gotta drop skateboarding. No more
playing baseball. No more playing football with
your friends. It's just school and wrestling
school. And that's all it was. Dude, that's crazy,
man. And my brother was from the get -go. He
was just really good at it. Yeah, I've heard
stories when he really sacrifices his body Your
sister mom's hard to pop out of her chest because
the stuff that he does I don't know if you ever
seen it. Yes, she dives off the speaker onto
one of the guys on the table And I was like,
yeah. Yeah, he was more into the Jeff Hardy and
Matt Hardy and crazy stuff. So you can go with
that. I'm more the technical Bret Hart, you know,
right. Wrestling ability. You want to do the
high flying stuff? Go for it. You're always skinnier,
smaller than me. So it made more sense for him
to do a little bit more aerodynamic. Oh, I was
doing it too. I was doing the flips off the top
ropes. Yeah, I see that. I cringe like, oh, God,
please, please let me write. Please let me write.
I got Martin Gomez already jumping. Holy crap,
Ray, is that Knight? Ray Knight, the way they
go. Martin's right there on that screen. So he's
watching you live right now. So that's a, Martin
is a character. He's really great. He's awesome.
Freaking amazing, bro. He's a character. He kind
of throws his curve balls every time we talk,
but he's a good kid. He's a good kid, man. But
uh, so you're doing you're doing that you're
doing the wrestling at the free market up in
the police It wasn't altered if i'm mistaken,
right? Yeah, that was uh, that was the beginning
of uh, february 2011 when we started uh training
Okay, and then it was I think the three months
in he was reffing and and wrestling there I was
at the five month mark and then other guys there's
some guys that Train at the same time we did
we all like did with it almost like back to back,
right? Right, right, right So that's getting
going. Uh I know danny Eventually, at the time,
if I do remember correctly, he rolled into wrestling
revolution. After that, I mean, I'm mistaken.
No, that was wrestling revolution. That was wrestling
revolution. Yeah, these guys actually started
at University of Texas Pan American, which is
now UTRGV. They started, if I'm correct, either
03 or 06. Because I moved out here in 2009. and
that's when they're like but they were already
performing they were performing at university
of panamerica and they were eventually at the
mission parks and wrecks wow uh so these guys
are already performing they they were actually
trained was it uh seven guys they were actually
trained in brownsville okay with uh bruce start
one of the one of his companies over there uh
so they were they were properly trained by those
guys and then well we came i moved down here
and they trained us so right So you're doing
that you go you're doing your wrestling thing
What the transition? I mean did you ever tag
team with your brother and matches? Oh, yeah,
we are we tag teams in the beginning We're known
as the gods. He was the gladiator of death. I
was a guardian of darkness so god. Oh, okay.
All right The god the rest of the evolution.
There you go. Yeah, but uh, yeah well when me
and him started, um The other two guys came in
which were matt riot and erik shadows, right?
Right. Right. Uh, yeah with us. It was like hey,
is a is how you perform this stuff, you know,
make sure you're safe about it. Okay, cool And
yeah, they just called us the new the new brie
Right, because they saw the guys, you know, and
I believe it was WWE at the time or WCW there
was already a faction called Nubri We always
mixed our tags me and Matt riot Danny and Matt
riot Matt right in the shadows me and shadows
ran a while to also So yeah, it was just, we're
always mixing the tag. That's badass, dude. I
mean, consider the fact, I mean, so many years
you've been wrestling and said performing, wrestling,
doing that, bro. How long have you been doing
it already? That's what, about post -war? 2011?
Yeah, almost 15 years. 15 years, man. Well, that's
already, yeah, that's already been 15 years.
Yeah, 15 going on, coming around 16. If I were
11, yeah, I'd want to take that. That is a big
tool to watch these way right now, ladies and
gentlemen. I mean now that through the years
that you've been resting or what you did in in
revolution now coming into new breed Being pretty
much the OGs now in the rain and you see all
these young talent coming up bro uh all these
children just started learning how to crawl now
they're walking and running all over the place
giving you lip yeah pretty much well okay so
based off of that like uh it was actually my
daddy's wife my sister in law that came up with
the idea like hey why don't we open up a wrestling
school? I have my bachelor's degree in business.
Danny has his degree in kinesiology. And then
she was like, hey, why don't you put up a wrestling
school and just have it where once they finish
their training program, they give you a wrestling
revolution. So that's what we did. So unfortunately,
that happened right when COVID hit. So right
when we opened the school, It was all set. We
talked to the owners of the owners have promoters
of wrestling evolution. They're going to open
up a school. We want to get guys ready for you
guys. And then, you know, they're the contract
is for them to debut here from here. And then
they'll spread their wings and then start going
up north to go perform maybe down south. They
can do whatever they want. So it was all good.
And then, yeah, and then COVID hit. And then,
yeah, the owners were like, hey, since you guys
get the school, we're already like on our way
out, we're already, you know, married kids. you
guys want the promotion. So we're like yeah sure
we'll take it. So they signed everything over
and then they were like just make sure you change
the name because Wrestling Revolution is our
baby. Yeah. So they were like hey my sister -in
-law wanted to call it the new breed because
that's what they called you guys. And I was lucky
to the fact to actually got to we got to interview
Danny when they were just barely Stepping to
the threshold. Yeah, it was crazy, you know seeing
all these young wrestlers, you know walk into
the studio and we're like now it's like so many
years have passed already and you look at these
guys like dude Wow, man, you guys are literally
developing pretty damn quick Five years that's
crazy, that's not man School that's been open
the first one to be open and one available like
weekly did the rings they're like, right? Join
join our school and yeah, but these guys Dedicated
they would show up every Tuesday and Thursday
or back then there was more days available What
right right now that you go to the school and
they're there they're there they're training
they're getting their work Yeah, and he says
it's a bigger facility. I've seen I've seen it
He was telling us that He has a lot more room.
I think I have too much room. Too many ideas
are flowing around. We'll build this over there.
We'll put a juice bar with it. I need a platform
up there on the third floor to jump off of. I'm
going to jump off of that. I'm going to jump
off of that. And someone needs to catch me. Or
not. Yeah, dude. So tell us a little about your
first debut. In a new breed I mean new I'm talking
about new we're not in not in a revolution I
want to talk about new breed now that the the
the platform is already ready to go You're starting
up your first shows What's the feeling? Coming
out of new breed itself knowing that you pretty
much it's pretty much your baby and then you
know You guys grew up with it. Well, what was
that like? I actually I had actually retired
before We took over. Okay I was off for about
a year and a half, almost two years. And then
when we opened up the school, we had to do a
little demonstration of like, hey, this is what
you guys are gonna learn. One of the guys couldn't
make it. That was supposed to be in the ring
with my brother to perform and show the people
coming in, like, hey, come and watch. You can
see what you're gonna be doing. So he brought
him back in. He was like, hey, I need you back
in the ring, and you'd help me train these guys
and give these guys the experience. So I was
actually against my brother at that little event.
He was like, hey, I was actually going to make
it. I was like, all right, well, let's get in
there and show them what they're going to start
learning if they want to learn. And sure enough,
we got in there. We did a good six to eight minute
match. And they were like, yeah, that was. For
not being in the ring, you think you have ring
runs and say it's just second nature. There's
this guy And a lot of people don't know man.
A lot of people don't know, uh, you know That
the way you say six seven eight match, you know
with what you think. Oh, it's just everything
Okay, whatever dude, you're gonna be in there
doing your thing. Oh You gotta have a core man.
Oh yeah you you're moving you can't just stand
still I mean you're constantly moving it's not
going uh you know one mile power to it's like
one to a hundred let's go go go go and i've seen
you guys maybe four eight minutes yeah four eight
minutes man well that's just me i go 68 minutes
i don't have the endurance i got used to you
got these guys they go 15 20 minutes and i'm
like yeah yeah Thank you for putting me out You
know a lot of you believe our they were in there
for like eight minutes Some of these rest dimensions
you watch on TV or live they can go in there
between 10 15 20 me Look at the rumble almost
a whole hour non -stop new going like crazy man.
You have to be in top caliber condition to No,
it's basically but mentally because you have
to know where you're at Right, right, right,
right. It gets crazy. And not lose track of yourself
or your opponent. No kidding, dude. No kidding,
dude. Ring around us. Where's the ref? Where's
this guy? Where's your tag partner? I'm supposed
to be tagging you. Where you at? I'm tired of
you. Get me out of the ring already. What are
you doing? I'm eating a pizza. I need you over
here. What do you need? What for a hot dog? Get
the fuck in here. Yeah, dude. So, I mean, doing
that, it takes a lot of conditioning, bro. Yeah.
If someone... Just a free straight up front someone
coming into the school brand new What's the introduction
to them? What is that you say to them as soon
as they walk in? I mean what I know it's gonna
be putting in work. You're gonna put in the work
first But I mean, what is the ideal? Say is the
welcome if so say before they walk into the school.
What is it? What is the? The first thing you
say to them and please say it's a boot to the
face Not as bad as you think. You just say welcome
and you show them around and then you tell them
this is what you're going to be learning and
this is what you're going to be doing. Like I
say, it's mad. You guys built a callus. You had
to build a callus because hitting those ropes.
I don't know if you ever felt the ropes. Yes,
I have. Getting hit with a steel chair in the
back and then taking a bump on the ground on
concrete. You have to build a callus. It's pain,
but it's... It's work you gotta put it in But
yeah, man, I mean like I said the hits a lot
of you don't realize hitting the ring man. Yeah
the dives the the body slams All the stuff going
in the air hitting that ring. Well, just bouncing
off the ropes. Like you said, dude. Yeah. The
ropes will cut you, man. I mean, it doesn't matter
who you are, even though you have anybody you're
you're bouncing on the ropes. You're going to
get bruised up. Yeah. You know, you're a peach.
You gotta get bruised. You gotta get bruised.
Especially if you're being thrown by someone.
The first couple times you hit them wrong, you're
like, oh, nope, not for me. A lot of guys, they'll
come in and be like, hey, I want to do it, but
it's not for me. Unfortunately, it's not. And
that's crazy. It takes a lot. I think it takes
a lot of... Lot of dedication to it. You got
a really really really really want Just say I'm
gonna do it then all of a sudden the next day
wake up all sore bruising, you know It's worth
it You said they might wake up like it's not
worth it right the commodity the family you get
Going out and traveling meeting new people networking,
you know, so it's I think it's worth it Even
if you think it's not worth it, it's it's worth
at least giving it a good six eight months And
then not just not just that one day and be like,
oh no, i'm like i'm not able to make it tomorrow.
It's like You keep doing it, right? Right, it'll
be worth it. All right, give it your all I know
I noticed you brought the belt in the attack
team shot in the double dragon double dragon
breed i see that and your tag partner is matt
right matt riot yeah i kind of confused them
my accident in their elevator when it was coming
out but no that was uh uh the rebel john jones
beat the crap out of her i'm not gonna say his
name because i say it's like it's like veal juice
and the the council started lighting up left
and right uh yes marvin i'm sorry about your
best friend shut up don't say his name dude it's
it's back but uh we're gonna say How many titles
do you have an under your under your belt man?
How many times have you and all of them? Which
was your favorite? That's the best one design
and everything it was a 288 day straight Carrying
the boat didn't lose it. Yeah the longest raining
from wrestling illusion and carry that belt tag
titles had it with my brother he's actually the
longest training wrestling illusion title holder
half with another guy than half of me I've had
the South Texas title when it was the the white
big metal version and then I got it again later
with the the new design which is one that We
actually retired Yeah, now we had the heart of
South Texas the new way belt haven't had that
one yet And I got the So tag titles ground the
rest of which in ground war title. I've had the
new breed heavyweight title the tag titles Yeah
So out of all of them which was the one your
favorite it was an NBA Russian Revolution ground
warrior And that was that wasn't actually I was
in my heaviest I was about uh, what uh three
15 Jesus wow, yeah all muscle. Oh, yeah How tall
are you bro six three That's crazy. I see most
of the wrestlers From from new breed. There's
a couple of there are my high. Okay. All right,
but I see these Some of these monsters man. They
walk in like Jesus Christ kill somebody Come
on dude, I mean the one excuse the most and he
goes from promotion to promotion is Pete. Oh,
yeah He picks up people It's like picking up
a trash man. Well, when it comes to Pete, if
you look like in our dictionary, you see dedication,
this Pete pain. Yeah. From day one, he's he's
putting the work, he's putting probably the most
work I've seen. Maybe work after work after work.
Right. Right. Right. Promotion, promotion that
he puts in the work. Yeah. Every, every wrestler
that I've had walk in to the podcast always gives
them his flourish, man. Cause they tell me, dude,
you don't understand, dude. Pete puts in work.
I mean, there's a couple of other people that
put in the work also, but peace like really,
really dedicated. He also pushes other people
to the work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, consider
the fact, Pete, with the intimidation, he he
doesn't really have to push it hard. It's like
you take over. Yes, I do. I do. Oh, I'm Martin
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here man so i know you have a they have a show
tomorrow night friday night coming up what's
the name of the promotion on this one Love nope
love no Valentine's Day is coming up. So I'm
pretty sure is love no love. Nope. All right
I'll say his name a whole toxic goes in there
so you can I know right Who are you facing this
tomorrow, buddy? Who do you got? We're not skilled
to face anybody tomorrow. I'm off tomorrow. You're
off tomorrow? Yeah. I don't like the way you
said that. I'm off right now. I'm getting off
right now. So, no show tomorrow then? For me,
no. I like to rest. No, I help my brother out
with the production and stuff. Okay. The entrance.
You know, I make sure everybody has their queues
ready to go. So, yeah. No, he usually works on
the stage. Right cameras and help us at the house
up Charlie Miller with announcing and stuff.
I'm using the back, right? That's another character
Charlie man. Charlie's another great character,
man. He's a Danny retired so he's in charge in
charge of the the daily operations non -stop
don't give up feeling man every time he comes
in here is like he gets the juices running he's
like yeah actually i think he's actually resting
tomorrow there you go i think so i think he's
in the run for the for the title oh here we go
here we go oh my god dude you see that triple
threat match now you have to go now you have
to go and watch it oh shoot it's very rare you're
gonna see my brother a brotherly love assistance
uh in this match by accident should you be backstage
or or you might i'm sorry you might not even
be there i'll be there but i got all the duties
all right he'll be in the back as far as the
as far as the matches bro for tomorrow i mean
even previous matches you've had What's a great
match that you've had so far man? One that's
in the books where it's the top top three top
matches that you've had in your career so far
man that you like I can't believe I did that
or god I wish I had a moment like that again.
Well the first one was back in wrestling evolution
it was a fatal fall away. My brother had the
uh NWA ground warrior wrestling edition title.
It was uh actually us four nobum yenes Battling
for it. It was me versus Matt, right? It was
Eric shout out to Danny It's on Facebook somewhere
to show it to you guys later. It's uh, probably
one of the best matches I've had Danny's had
many best matches nominated every year. So It's
a big difference in caliber. He just announced
don't need assistance. But yeah young Put me
in a triple trim. It's okay, buddy. It's okay
I would say that match, back in the day, recently,
it was against Kike in our table match. Yes,
which is the picture? No, no, this is a picture
against... No, that's against Blackheart. Blackheart,
okay, okay, okay. I don't know, it was against
Kike. For the title, the table match, it was
really, really good. Before that, in between,
man, it was one of my ladder matches, if it was
a Lionheart tournament. night it was uh for the
south tix title okay and it was uh i did a backflip
off a 12 foot ladder jesus onto my point it was
nothing but for him flipping me flipping it was
a chair shot the chair shot and it was great
bro i'm i'm gonna ask you something because i
need to ask this bro i know you all had a mat
you had matches going on in the cold Take me
through the pain when you get hit with a chair
or With a nice chop to the chest man, cuz if
anybody knows guys if anybody knows in the cold
Chops in general they stink. They are they pop
blood cells and you have bruising you're bleeding
and it's pretty bad. Yeah Chair shots, yeah,
they sting men like I think when I when I first
hit the ring with my back Right away in the beginning
of the match it it's done. It's like, oh my god,
dude Not as bad as that but just the sting just
met in the sting and it's just like Yeah, but
uh, yeah, but if you're not used to I'm used
to it, you know, I've built a catalyst over time
Yeah, you know, right a couple months of training
everything But yeah, I would say if it was a
person not wrestling it's Probably one of the
worst feelings you're gonna feel for a while.
Yeah, I mean cuz I mean tell you the truth I'm
not sure anybody anybody will get this idea when
it gets cold again Bring a water bottle to the
ring and just pour it in the middle and buy this
land the heck out of person on top of that cold
water Yeah, that would really wake you up You
know what, just go outside without a shirt on.
It's cold. Dude, the majority of these guys,
some of them went out without a shirt on. Yeah,
that's the whole point. That's nuts. Dude, man.
You can already hear his mom say, put your jacket
on. Put your jacket on in front of you. No kidding,
dude. I mean, shoot. Well, it's almost go on
though. Yeah, no kidding, no kidding. So we gotta
go out there. Now doing it for so many years
has it already like you said before it's when
you when you do it for so many years It's just
like riding a bike. Let's go. Let's go. Let's
go to the point where you've gotten when you
first start to now Have you felt that it's been
a little bit? Easier or a lot more smoother On
that aspect of any older Once it clicks it just
it's pretty pretty chill ride Yeah, it's a second
nature you just go in there and you should I
do what you got to do, right? For us that have
been doing it longer. It is easier, right? It's
just in the back of your head. It's just like
boom, boom, boom, boom But uh now with age. Yeah
You feel a bit more worse chop ever worse chop
ever Cuz I heard some bro. They just have these
sound loud well before me There was a guy that
was six foot four you know, but I didn't creed.
Okay back in restaurant volution He was one of
the original vets. Mm -hmm, man when he chopped
you Your chest your chest would cave in. Oh my
god. Yeah, those he probably had the meanest
chops Okay, Sarge, I don't feel yeah man he had
this thing where like if you left them alone
for too long you hit the ropes and came back
at him he did an overhand chop oh damn my god
that was i think that's probably the most recent
baseball the baseball throw chop is one of his
chops most recently uh before he retired right
um man that overhand chop is the worst chop to
receive from anyone it just hurts that's crazy
dude strength just Was it most extreme thing
you've done? In the rain, not outside in the
rain. Or both, or both. Or both anyway. Nah,
just the flip up the 12 foot ladder and then
going through two tables against Kike. Stacked,
not side by side stacked, just going straight
through them both. And then straight ground.
What do you say when you climb that 12 foot ladder?
I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die,
I'm gonna die You're gonna you're gonna mess
it up. Yeah, I'm going right right flipping out
over the top, bro However, you know, how do you
even know? You just gotta tell yourself like
I have to commit because if I don't I'm gonna
hear right right and there's it's you just have
to go is there ever been a stunt that you've
done were you like never again Hey you do it
I'll be there to catch you right? I'll break
your fall. I'll take the hit. I'll be the one
hurting Why am I doing that onto a smaller guy
so I really didn't ever did the crazy stuff Right
now the opportunity to With all the all the wrestlers
in your promotion, which is one that you really
want in the ring. I mean, just to, you know,
let's go. Where's the potential? Right. The potential
that you say, you know, I want this guy in the
ring with me. You had a check like opponent.
Yeah. That camera right there. You're talking
to that point who you want in the ring for one
run and that's it. That's a good question. All
really good. All the Nubre talent guys are all
really like, you can pick any one of them. And
after a good seven match series, that's going
to be to be top notch matches, man. I couldn't
even pick one. I went for them all, at least
one. So it's kind of like, they all got it. They
all were trained at Nubre. And it's like, who
do you pick? Right. Well, if you had to pick
like a new partner. If I had to pick? Yeah. I
mean, not even like just to, you know, just for
like a little exhibition. Maybe look at the screen
right there, because I know you have the, you
can see what it says right there. Just for a
little fun thing. Martin's saying me, because
he's the diamond in the rough. Okay, cut him
off. Are you like best friends, buddy? Do you
want to add, you and Martin? Because it kind
of sounds like he's a... He's trying to smooth
up to you here, buddy. He's trying to bait me
into something. I don't know. It's Martin. He
looks like when you're a kid, it's one in, one
out, the other. You just got to have him talk.
Yeah, right, right, right, right. I see you,
Martin, and I hear you maybe one day. To have
a good one, to have a good full -blown match.
100 % just Going non -stop. Yeah Man I have to
go with Chris Austin Okay, Chris Austin his name
gets dropped a lot man. I've been those recently
really good. Yeah, he was back in WR days as
well Right, right, right, but he's He's probably
one of the guys that they hit, let's go have
a match and blow the... Let's blow the roof off.
Let's blow the roof off the place here. Nice.
I've seen a couple of his matches run and they're
top notch. They're top notch. He's definitely
a showman. Yes. He'll give you the show. I'm
not sure if he still does it, but his drinking
days before he would have a match, he would come
out and drink a... Drink a beer right when he
was back He's drinking the beer to knock the
pain off or he's just really But yeah His name
gets dropped quite a bit. Yeah, you get good
drop quite a bit which is one that really Besides
morning. I know you let you say they go through
one off the other they really kind of Annoyed
you a little bit anywhere near that ring Yeah,
they're both. You're both clowns. Oh, there we
go. There you go. Confirmed. Yeah. The best friends
are talking about the best friends. Oh, God.
Okay. I got a question from Veronica about this.
Okay. Who's watching? She says, uh, past or present?
What wrestler would Ray wrestle today and what
type of match? That's a good one. that's why
she didn't specify like any wrestler or from
like our promotion any wrestler any wrestler
anyone in time that's what i'm i'm talking about
that's yeah alive today let's be realistic here
well i was like i grew up watching bret hart
i want to watch from bret hart and see who is
a better come on man bret hart come on Me right
now versus his pine. Yeah, that'd be great Yeah,
so but present right now oh I got what the AJ
Styles before he retired Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. She put here Superstar. Yeah Superstar
yeah go with Before you you know and then go
inside into that direction you say you're a big
time wrestling fan growing up and everything
If you're watching the camera, you're looking
around the camera guys. I had the opportunity
to watch Royal Rumble this past Saturday. Mixed
emotions. Out of a scale of 1 to 10. I gave it
a 3. I'm sorry. The entire... The whole thing.
I don't know why. It just didn't grasp me. I
think it was in Saudi Arabia. It was more like...
Control Yeah Like over here and the states if
I would have been like Explosive. Yeah, you know
But you know I watching I'll throw the ball on
your court. Did you watch? How's it work your
way because it was I was during the day yeah
But no, we did you even watch the replay any
chance don't do it I'm sorry for those of you
who watched it man. I mean the the women's roll
rumble It was fair. It was it was good. I mean
that thing out of the majority of the matches
that was kind of the fun one to watch AJ Who
was he fighting? Oh fighting Gunther So, I don't
know dude, I I mean in and I'll say alive again
Like I said in the last couple of them that I've
told all the rest are coming. I don't get the
gimmick I don't I mean, I know old school a brawler,
old school wrestling, I understand, but I just
don't get why they keep shoving him down our
throats to like this guy. I'm pretty sure he's
a great guy in person, a great guy to meet, but
it's just, I don't get it. I don't get it. I've
heard speculations, even the women's side where
you got Chelsea Green, Chelsea Green, great wrestler.
Great wrestler, even for the Lucha Underground
days, amazing, especially her match against Pinta.
Crazy, crazy, and she hasn't gotten the toss
up there to become one of the top -notch wrestlers.
She's more of a, what's it called? Pulling new
talent over, pushing them over to something better.
And there's a lot of great talent in WWE, man.
But it's just that, I don't know. I mean, what
are your thoughts, bro? I mean, there's somebody
there. That you see that's in WWE right now that
you know needs the opportunity To you know shine
a little bit. I mean they've been there for so
many years Who do you believe needs to shine
at the moment with the new the new I want to
say Group that's in there now that people eyes
already Ranked in there because there's a lot
of people our wrestlers that came to a roll rumble
this this past Saturday I'm really a heat for
this, but I'm a Logan Paul fans With the right
guidance in the right way because of his uh His
previous youtuber and stuff And he's great at
wrestling, you know, he's done some really good
really good He's a natural, bro. He's a natural,
bro. He's a natural. I think he's the one that
should have been, like you said, pushed down
the throat. It's like, hey, you got to look at
this kid. Yeah. You don't even have to. The kid
is phenomenal. Yeah. I mean, no taking no offense
on anybody who's been in the business longer
than he has. But this kid, it's like it's in
his blood, his DNA, man. He's willing to take
the risk. He's willing to jump off the top rope,
go crashing to a table, jump off of whatever
it takes to get a rise out of the crowd. And
for him to be a heel fits him so perfectly because
everybody hates him. Let's say nice things. I
think he's still gonna get heat. Yeah. Yeah,
you will The guy's a great wrestler when he first
came in I remember when he has first match you
lay all great. Here you go Here comes a youtuber
that you know was saying, you know, great. Let's
let's see what happens He was doing back flips
jumping off the ropes her uh hurricana the guy
was just like oh him in a river shade yeah right
in the middle of the ring bro i mean well i actually
like that they got for example he's the one that
came in as a youtuber and they got like i chose
speed and they put him in that one match and
he got like decimated by bron with that spear
yeah yeah i'd say it's great yeah show more of
that right right right right right gotcha gotcha
so as i just open more doors more possibilities
like so i Enjoy the work. Yeah, there's been
a lot of there's a lot. There's been a lot of
couples I'm using the word celebrities that have
come on to WWE or any promotion that that's on
TV that come on and they've I mean Dare I say
when we first saw Bad Bunny come into the ring
and do a Destroyer I was like what? Yeah, how
I was more excited when Stefan Amell got in the
ring. Yeah It was a group watching, you know,
green arrow, right? Yeah start us Cody Rhodes
was in green arrow at Stardust, right? That's
awesome. You know, you're right. You say a celebrity.
Yeah. Yeah and a little bit of training you did
to get into the ring or green arrow training
press possibly So here you go, man. You got one
for Veronica here Ray versus Logan. That'll be
a match just the thought See, he wears black
and yellow like my brother, so... Same thing.
That's just my brother. That's just my brother.
Same height, same energy. There you go. Pretty
much. Pretty much, man. That's crazy, dude, but...
Yeah, my brother does crazier things. Yeah, yeah,
we saw his match with Austin and uh with uh,
I ain't got all cut up for light tubes and everything.
I was like, bro, you're the nuts. It was a cage
match. It was crazy. No, I didn't get to see
that one, but I've seen the replays on it and
then his match with uh, Matt Wright and the steel
cage match when uh, Matt does the shooting start.
Yes. My brother just throws bangers, dude. Every
match he's in is just fire every time. It's great.
I've seen all of you guys. Uh, even the street
your uh no ring matches yeah those are those
are nuts yeah one of my favorite matches was
actually uh matt right versus toksico that night
they threw it down especially the light bulbs
oh my gosh dude they got literally fluorescent
light bulbs yes all right and uh real fluorescent
light bulbs yeah and toksico got there he goes
his name again there he goes his name again he
gets smashed across the head with a freaking
Live both you and I'm up on stage because I'm
with the shout to the nine nine point five six
pop ass I was doing the commentary with them
on their podcast watching the match and I was
telling you guys do these guys don't realize
when that glass breaks a little particles are
in the air man they inhale that shit and that's
that's dangerous shit cuts you yeah it cuts you
up pretty bad That was my least favorite match,
okay Going back to the past with Russian Revolution
true story about those people Danny down off
you seen it, but Danny shared his Facebook I
told them one day I was like Do you recognize
toxic? He's like, no, why? But he used to watch
us when he was this tall. He used to watch us.
I remember going to a convention over here at
Texas Boulevard. It was one of the conventions.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh, that little I need
you to pick a right. It's right there. Yeah,
he was there and I took a photo with the Grand
Warrior title and Jordan and some of the guys
that, you know, are, you know, OG Wrestling Revolution
guys. Yeah, sure enough folks who's been watching
us since he was little on YouTube when he couldn't
make it to see no array and then When he found
out that we are doing a school and he's like
one of them one of the first guys show up They
have one. I want to train we know at the time
and You used to watch Still got a piece of the
glass behind my ear from last year's with Austin
and I have a scar from the table match in the
cage with Roy. Well, yeah, you keep those scars
forever there, Danny. All the good memories.
Great memories. Great memories. You can tell
your kids when they get old enough and they know
what those scars are from. That's the fun part.
That's the fun part. See this hole in my head,
that's a pipe for me. From your uncle. Your uncle
put a pipe in there. We're going into 58 minutes
of the podcast. We're almost out, man. But, dude,
having you on the pod is pretty cool, man, because
having Danny here with chit -chatting, he talks
a lot about the last time he mentioned you quite
a bit. And then having you here and you go, I
can see the... The resemblance and the way you
handle your character. It's a little different.
Danny's little, you know, well, he's a little
firecracker, you know, and talking to you today
on the pod is like, okay, we're talking, we're
talking seriously. All right. I've been serious
since day one. That's what's so cool. That makes
the podcast really interesting because you're
like, okay, what, what, what questions should
I toss them? What should I say? Isn't that, you
know, and the thing is it's straight. Straight
out the what should I say the straw is gorgeous
mouth. Hey, hey This is the way I wrote. Yes,
this is the way I wrote. Yeah, and then that's
what that's what that that's fucking badass I
like I like that. I like that But that's awesome
man, uh Final question tonight, this will be
a doozy uh for you uh i won't i won't get i won't
throw the oprah wimfrey freaking uh question
i'll throw this question out there yeah i won't
do that no uh if the whole wrestling thing was
not happening right now uh it wasn't the cards
for you wasn't the cards for you and your brother
What do you think you guys would be doing right
now? Well, I don't know about him. I don't mean
I used to I used to play in a band. I played
the Baco Sextal. I grew up playing the guitar.
So my dad taught me that instrument right the
Mexican guitar Baco Sextal. And then so I played
that for a couple years when I moved down to
the Valley in 09. My cousin and his friends were
like, hey, we're an accordion player for a band.
I was like, well, I play the Baco Sextal. Right.
uh because i played the bago sexto the bass came
easy my brother played the drums right so i had
a jump set at home and that came easy right so
we're like what can you learn the accordion well
i have two of them so i was just i got on youtube
and i started practicing so i'm pretty sure i'd
be in in a group somewhere playing a conjunto
de tajano band somewhere over there That's stuff
that you don't know, man. That's what I love
about our show. You deep dive into someone's
personal life and say, hey man, what would...
what would be the whole plan if things didn't
work out the way you wanted it to it probably
wouldn't work out good because you got a you
got a fellow musician sitting right here dude
who probably now what do you play yeah guitar
player guitar player you sing too or no sometimes
when i'm really drunk the acoustics are amazing
in there you know when you're off too when you're
in the shower but yeah that's awesome bro i'm
i'm i'm happy that first of all happy that uh
The path that took you on as far as the wrestling
doing the wrestling thing is awesome. I'm glad
that that worked out for you in the end Because
of the fact through the years Like I said, it
became easier like riding a bike like I said
a switch on and off on and off Whenever you whenever
you want to go in there and do your new business,
you know, but uh, it's crazy You know knowing
how it seemed like I said, I'll say it again
you and your brother are like And it's true like
my brother and I were like opposite totally different
It's a yin and yang well, I I he could be serious
and I could be a firecracker. It's it's just
right. It's it's just he's more Uh Promoter -sized
business so he's more like Yeah, exactly exactly
and i'm in the background and sign him partner
i'm over here like what he said I'm just gonna
back him up. You're right. Yeah, i'm the muzzle
Whatever he said goes Thank you so much man for
coming the podcast bro I appreciate you taking
the time to come out here your brother to nominate
you for this episode And like I said the new
thing we're doing now is taking nominations like
the ice bucket challenge So who are you nominating
to come in? Not next week, but next month the
first week of next month to come in and get interviewed
by us, bro Man riot you're watching you're next
So many that will be me I'll beat you who's thinking
about shooting y 'all those emails A lot of time,
but no, man. Like I said, once again, thank you
for so much. Take it a time. I'm coming. I'm
having a little fun with us here, man Yeah, man
slowly getting into the the history of uh new
breed how it's slowly developing to something
beautiful dude it's i mean the promotions the
promotions down here in the rgb uh not many of
you know i mean these new wrestling promotions
bro it's something something different i mean
it's entertaining get your mindset off from the
week work week uh i know we're there's so much
stuff going on in the world today especially
here in the US and especially what's going on
whatever I'm not going to that but you know something
to just blow steam and you know go out take the
family have a good time man watch watch some
dudes beat the crap out each other the ring but
thank you so much man I appreciate you taking
your time coming down here To be with us man,
and all I can say is I'll part you man. I hope
everything works out and you're in But anyways
guys, but thank you so much man taking time coming
out here and having a little fun with me Thank
you. Appreciate you if you guys are watching
right now i think our thing froze but we can
still hear the audio i'm hoping you guys hate
us like always i don't know what we gotta do
but anyways uh true great episode today man with
uh the sibling of uh danny uh it's it was it
was a lot of information that we were taking
to heart and we're gonna eventually review it
in time but uh other than that man i'll What
did you think of the show? It was great, man.
I love the question that you asked where he said
that he'd like to wrestle Bret Hart. Now, the
correct answer to that question would have been
going the clowns sidekick, Dink. Yeah, that's
true. Given the choice of all the wrestlers in
all the WWE history, you always pick Dink. Yeah,
that's true. I think I was like Dudley. Why not?
Why not? Why not? Sure. So yeah, man, but - the
studio what do you think buddy i love it my ideas
are coming to fruition oh your ideas that wall
is my idea these cameras are my idea this whole
show is my idea let's not take it too far man
i have the heart of the show dude shut up dude
anyways man uh lady jimmy thank you so much for
joining tonight next week we have uh somebody
from uh combat cult coming in uh just keep an
eye out on the commercial Don't know who it is
yet. Uh, we still haven't decided who might be
moment might be con I'm not sure yet. We haven't
got a full answer but uh tune in next week 7
30 pm on facebook live youtube and twitch Excuse
me, but uh other than that guys Thank you so
much for tuning tonight and we will see you next
week. Sign us off. Haven't you? Yeah, we'll see
you next week 7 30 guys. Later guys. Bye