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well, lucky for you today, I don't have the ugly
galoot here. As you can see, he's not even in
his seat. I don't even know. I hope I pushed
the right button here. Yeah, there you go. Actually,
we got John Cena. Only thing you can't see him
but We're here today on the podcast man. I do
have a co -host come in but he is running a little
late He's probably somewhere eating peanuts somewhere
or looking for the little little man parking
space, but that's a whole different of the story
on today's episode guys Oh, it's gonna be a great
one. First of all, I want to say thank you to
everybody tune in last week Hope your Thanksgiving
was great. I hope all you had time to spend with
your family and those who got really really really
Drunk that day. I hope you repaired everything
of all the arguments you had after the day Because
that's normally how it goes. But anyways on today's
podcast We have a very special guest all the
way from San Antonio, Texas They drove down here
to the valley and they're like what? Are we driving
to? No, I'm joking. They've been down here a
couple of times and I'm just happy they came
down to have these two people on the podcast
is a treat. I just go show you that our pod reaches
out in other parts of Texas and they're they're
intrigued to come and have some fun with us.
But enough me chit chatting and sound boring
on the pod on the mic. First of all, I wanna
say thank you to you guys for showing up and
being here. A big shout out to my guests here,
Mr. Rudy Gonzalez and Micah Madrid in the podcast,
man. All right. Whoo, you see how we were talking
about earlier about running a podcast and trying
to do by yourself. Yeah, it's it's tough It's
tough. But um guys, oh shoot and put down that
one. There's the one we're going we don't need
to see John Cena Thank you for coming the podcast
man. Welcome to westicle, Texas I know you guys
are usually coming out here doing shows Sometimes
but uh, I mean for you guys to come on down.
Oh, here you go Here you go. I got I got the
first comment for you and it's gonna be all night.
I'm sorry uh Micah this is the one of the first
right here is he you should have uh worn the
Nicky merch bro oh really really you see you
see you already have my micah and my velocity
sensor so sorry buddy sorry as you can see uh
Rudy's already covering the Nicky Fuego uh thing
because Nicky's not part of this podcast It's
making sure that's covered up. But anyway, and
I got more people coming tuning in and I'm glad
everybody's tuned into this. So thank you so
much. First off, I want to say thank you for
coming out. Sorry for the long drive. Secondly,
yeah, but other than that, guys, tell us a little
bit about you, about yourself. Let's start with
Rudy. Oh, you guys can you guys decide flip a
coin, draw stars, whatever you like. Tell me
a little bit about yourself, where you grew up
and how we got into the wrestling business, man.
We know this is like a history making Podcast
I'll do mine By myself and what have you she
does hers by herself. There you go. What have
you just a few weeks ago? We did She was a guest.
Oh, there you go. There you go. She did So this
is the first time ever. Ever that we're doing
this. It was a V .I. satellite interview, that's
what it was. This is the first time ever we've
done this together. Awesome, that's great. This
is history making, right? There you go, there
you go. So tell us a little bit about yourself,
Rudy, where you grew up and where you're from
and all that good stuff. I started wrestling
in 1982 with the Blanters, the sophomore championship
wrestling out of San Antonio. We would come down
to the Valley to wrestle with the coach. Yeah,
well that's gone, but yeah High school gyms in
Westlake we go to Mercedes Every every few weeks
on Sundays and And then we did our stuff out
of San Antonio and what -have -you and when Joe
Blanchard shut down the motion Yes. Then I started
doing some stuff with them a little bit here
and there. I saw the pictures, man. Yeah. I saw
the pictures, man. I was like, who do I have
my podcast coming up this week? Oh my goodness.
I got to wrestle with guys like Razor Ramon.
Oh my gosh. Yokozuna. And my daughter was. I
forgot about a lot of those guys. And then my
daughter pulled up on YouTube. Dad, you know
who? The Nazis, you know who? Yeah. Yeah, I do.
I went to Mexico for a little bit here and there
and I got brought back by Joe Blanchard to work
with WCW. Okay. And we did an event in Phoenix
where it was me and another guy from Mexico against
Andy Guerrero and another guy from Mexico. Dude,
that's awesome, man. That is awesome. And this
was in his early days. This was like his first
start. Right, right. So, I mean, what you see,
what we saw on TV, you know, a few years ago,
before he passed away, is nothing, you know.
I mean, it was over the top compared to when
we started. Right. And then in 2000 and last
year, 1999, uh I was hearing to leave wrestling.
I've already been in it for so many years and
then Shawn Michaels calls me and says, hey, do
you mind helping me run a wrestling school? Dude.
And uh. The heartbreak kid is HBK. So, yeah.
So, it's me and who I would watch when I was
growing up and another uh guy named Ken Johnson
is a friend of mine and we ran a strong school
and then like within a and it's just wrestling
and it's it's nothing against anybody. But within
a month, Jose left and then Ken Johnson left.
They had a fallout. So one day Shaw said, you
know, you want to go with them? And I'm like,
oh god, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, buddy. Somebody
has to come interrupt. Oh my god. Oh my gosh.
She can come on in if she likes. There's a seat
right there for her. Ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately,
this podcast, we got Kakawate in the house. Kakawate's
in here and his beautiful wife are in the house
to visit. Have a seat right there. There he goes.
I didn't get you anything to drink. You want
a water, buddy? You want a water? Here you go,
you can have a water. That's all you're drinking.
Yeah, that's good. Actually, if you see yourself
on the screen, buddy, look at the... That's beautiful.
Well, the camera does wonders, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm sorry to tell you. I run out of booster sheets.
The other day he asked me to bring an old San
Antonio phone book. That's what he uses to drive.
Go on, Rudy. So I finished off school for two
years, and I trained guys like Daniel Bryan and
Bryan Kendrick from London. And I fell every
single day. I was blessed, and I came up. Blessed
is the right place, right time. I was at the
right place at the right time. And so I came
across all these kids, and they were all good
boys. And then when Sean resigned his contract
with WWE in 2001, he just wanted to decide, so
I'm going back to work for Vince. I said, okay.
And I'm thinking to myself, I'm gonna have a
job. What am I gonna do? The D -Generation, G
-Generation X era, yeah, the raw era. I was gonna
be D -Generation employee. Oh my God. And then
he said, unless you want it. And I'm like, he's
just screwed. So I asked, I said, what do I got
to tell you? He said, don't pay me any time.
It's yours. And he gave me the keys. And that
was it. And so from, that was April of 2001.
And I've been on this one since. That's awesome,
man. I've had some good kids come through there.
For the longest time, because right off the bat,
Brian Kendrick, Brian Danielson, a young man
named Lance Gayden, a kid named Chris Schultz
got signed to WB right away. And the talk was,
they got signed because of Sean. And they probably
did. I don't know. But I do know that Brian Kendrick
and Brian Danielson are still in the wrestling
business. And then Paul London came through my
school, and then Paul got signed to WWE. So it
had nothing to do with Shawn. And then I had
a young man named Asada who came through my school,
and he's a big wrestling star in Japan, and he
was in the hard core stuff. Right, right, right,
right. And then I had Hernandez come through,
and they had nothing to do with Shawn. So I started
thinking maybe. He got they got pretty good at
this stuff, right? Right, right and then as the
years have gone by I've come across them, you
know, I've trained some other kids and and you
know, they've done very well and they're productive
in the wrestling business and I come across it's
under what I come across is I know I I have no
connection to like Right. I have no connection
at all and I see her she You know, she wasn't
she want to put together WrestleMania type matches,
but she was putting together solid matches for
her experience. And so we just put aside, hey,
won't you do this? Won't you do that? And the
next thing you know, she invested in me. And
then I had a talk a while back with a young lady
named Mercedes Martinez. And so we talked about
training and stuff. She's an ADM guy. And so
we talked about training, and she said, Rudy,
females are different. You you can't train females
where you train the males and so Now any time
any females, you know any any girls want to get
in the wrestling? I just posted just just today
We have four or five girls in our group right
now I saw that I saw the post I'll just tell
her maybe you know they miss something Watch
your footwork or hit the road harder. What do
they do? Just little things with Michael runs
them, right? And she doing a good job. We just
signed a 16 year old girl just yesterday and
And she was giving me the rundown on She wants
to be the youngest NXT star or whatever. I'm
like, who is he? Yeah You can tell when somebody
is really passionate by their actions. You can
say, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this,
I'm going to do this. So yeah, last night, Thursday,
we're doing rolls. And she couldn't do it. She
starts crying. I'm just embarrassed because she
knows she can do it right right right right right
and I'm like What are you crying for and and
so she said well, I know I can do that not you
so Michael pulled her aside and uh Yeah, talk
for it and by the end of the night All over the
place. That's awesome, man. So I mean, you know,
I'm saying this in front of her and she's doing
a pretty good job with the girls you did you
did a a wrestling con in North Carolina called
WrestleKate. It's like the biggest wrestling
convention in the country. And I saw one of the
girls there and she was like, I can do it so
good, can you do it? And just like blowing her
head up. Like I'm sitting there and her head
was like. And I'm like. Yeah. So, you know, I
mean, with guys, it's with with me, it's like,
you know, get up, get up, but you can't talk
away to the girls. You gotta, you know, because
it's a female. Right, right. There's a way to
go about stuff like that. So, Yeah, she's like,
you know, come on I said the girl her name is
Samantha and That's awesome, that's awesome She
doesn't even call me anymore. She doesn't...
You don't bring me flowers anymore. Nikki! Give
Rudy a call! Call him! What do I do about this?
What do I do about that? So that's fine. That's
what she's there for. Right, right, right. You
know, and again, that's the direction that pro
wrestling is going into now. There's the guys
and there's the girls. Right, right, right. You
know? And so... I'm gonna run us Wilson. I said
2001 and It's progressed. It's like little Cycles
and there's a down and then come back up down
and right now we're going in and up sweet More
females in the group and we've had in a while.
I've got some good male wrestlers guys I get
messaged around then from some of the guys down
here like Chris Austin, right? I think it was
him and he's a good he's a good kid uh which
as a matter of fact those two guys are actually
going tomorrow to Odessa they didn't thank me
for that yeah no no and I will admit something
uh Rudy I did talk to actually Kike on uh on
Tuesday at the training facility for new breed
and I actually told him about that, you know,
hey, I saw the I saw where you're going. You're
going to Odessa with three bad productions. And
of course, he did mention you. Yeah, he mentioned
you. And and I go, hey, let's say anybody. Those
guys can get you where you're at. And and one
thing that I would tell you, thank you so much
for doing that. You know, you are a blessing
in this industry. I mean, that's that's why,
you know, I did my rest and stuff. I'm doing
my coaching stuff, and I promote, and I see guys.
It would be an injustice to see somebody with
so much talent and just... Yeah, I hear you,
I hear you. Because they're not my students.
They have potential. They have the potential,
they have the talent, they have the heart. They
have more of the heart in there, and it is a...
great step you know where they're taking where
they're actually going to be at and who they're
going to be wrestling because and it's like I
told Kike I go you have to understand that there's
going to be you know administration there from
AAA you know they're going to be eyeing you and
they're going to tell you straight out if you
know everything who's the kid Blackheart James
Blackheart he's another one that from down here
that's I've had some guys, Vicky Vento. She's
from La Feria. She came up to San Antonio. I
trained her for a while. She was doing really
good. The other thing is she got married. See
what marriage does to you, man. I'd watch your
back right now, buddy. I know. I cannot say anything
because all of a sudden somebody will actually
hit me with a tear. And you had my full permission.
That's where I'm really going Thomas right into
my place. He said hey, man And I said, all right,
you know, how much do you say nothing? You know
where she at so is me and Ricky and in this girl?
Last time I saw his daughter Victoria. She was
ten years old or whatever and now She says now
I'm like Yeah, she gave me a hug and whatever
and I'm like, holy **** No, I'm giving her three
years. You know, it's just three years to get
her her stuff together and if she doesn't, it'll
happen in three years and you know, she'll have
to just be in the real world. Right, right. It's
okay and Damn, she hit the floor running, man.
That's awesome. I think it was like two years
that she got signed. That's awesome. So the Valley
produces some good people, man. Absolutely. I
ran into the people last Saturday. You from Michigan.
Merced Salinas. Oh, there you go. And I mean,
the Valley produces good people, man. They just
need to get out of here, you know? And I'm not
knocking the Valley or anything like that. I
mean, I like going down here. I like going down
here. What a lot of kids understand is this isn't
the wrestling world. There's another whole different
view outside of Texas. And so yeah, I mean if
I sincerely believe I messaged Chris and Kika
here today, there's gonna be Pagano, there's
gonna be Super Crazy. Pagano? You know I'll use
Mike as example, so I could did one of those
conventions in Florida Did a convention for a
couple years ago in the front row was G bus,
okay, and she watched a match and So you're half
later year later G bus buys into wow even a wrestling
right right, right? So they need some girls or
whatever. So some of the girls are talking. Mike
gets around other places out of Texas. And some
girls are talking. We need more girls. We need
different girls. And so someone said, I know
a girl out of San Jose named Mica. And someone
said, oh, yeah, Mica. Oh, I know Mica. I know
Mica. Can someone call her? OK, all right. Can
somebody just call her already? Her phone goes
off, and she's like, hello? Yes, this is Micah.
Who's this? David? And I'm like, David. Uh -oh.
Who was that? And she said, have you ever heard
David McLean? I'm like, yeah, I know that name.
And she said, he asked me if I could wrestle
for his company called Val. Wow, that's awesome
Wow Somebody said eating girls or somebody said
well, they're just go like that and so I know
her I know her Chris and he is they may wrestle
tomorrow and Odessa No one is telling anything
The people are watching right and when they need
exactly if there's a need for Fresh new blood.
Yeah new blood I have no problem as a drop in
the name and getting is like that. Right, right.
So I mean, you never know I mean in like like
Right and as a matter of fact Rudy That's actually
a tour that Three Bad Productions, Three Bad
Lucha, along with Lucha Libre Triple A Worldwide
are having throughout the Texas, called Texas
Mania. And as a matter of fact, on Saturday,
they also have another event in Brownsville.
Yeah, it's actually tomorrow, they're gonna be
in Odessa. Friday, Saturday, they're gonna be
in Brownsville. And of course, on Sunday, they're
gonna be in Houston. Well, on Saturday, We have
four guys from New Breed Wrestling going there.
As a matter of fact, I have Christopher Delta.
going. I have a rebel Sean or rebel Jones. I
have toxic and I have a rather flanked Jake Bishop
from the kid. Yeah, yeah. So they're going over
there. They're they're tag teaming against each
other and all that. So they're they're excited.
At the same time, they're nervous because of
the same reason because there's always there's
always people watching. Who's going to be watching?
And the only thing I always am basically Like
you did with them. I recruited them with three
bad and with Lucha Libertad Triple A and I'm
pretty sure you might think the same way I did
but some people tell me well why Why not other
people because if I'm gonna recruit people with
them is because of the talent they have what
I see the heart Everything they got I've seen
other people in the ring that I'm like no Right,
right, right. You're like, uh -uh, no. Even though
they come to me and they go, well, why don't
you take me? Basically, I don't really want to
say the truth, but in my mind, I'm saying, you
suck. You know, basically. Sometimes the truth
is what they need. Yeah. Like, there's a guy
I saw do not want the truth. He just thinks so
highly of himself. He just thinks so, you know,
he's a good kid. I mean, he's a good kid. Wrestling
-wise. And you are aware that these these kind
of promoters these guys that are actually running
this shows, you know, they're If they don't like
what they see They're not going to bother with
you anymore. They're not going to tell you, oh,
you know what, I'll be in touch. No, they just
won't call you anymore. They won't forget about
you. They will just say, I know what, chamos.
That's what they'll do. So his, uh, I can't think
of his name. David Money. David Money. Yeah.
I actually trained David years ago and then he
was trying to go back and forth and then his
dad needed him down here because they have a
construction company. Yeah. And, uh, so he had
to leave. And then, and then also I had, uh,
Frank the Tank. Frank the Tank. Oh my gosh. Oh,
you need it. You need it. Oh, yeah. She did.
She did need it. A bodyguard. I guess. You need
to get a bodyguard again. I'm just kidding. I'm
just kidding. Yes. We got tomorrow in Odessa
and then I have a book also for uh San Antonio
on the 14th. On the 14th. Wow. Yeah. So I hope
they do good. I think that the Brownville and
Houston shows came up later. I mean, this came
up with me. It came up August, July, around that.
Well, that's about the time that they had actually.
No, you know what? No. Because in reality, we
were actually scheduled in Port Isabel. then
all of a sudden it got moved to that one. I remember
that because I have the schedule because I work
for 3Bat Productions also and Lucha Libre. As
you know, I do their ring announcing too. So
when I got the guys, when I hooked up with him,
he's from 3Bat, he runs the car like that? Jorge.
Jorge or Valdi? Valdi, Valdi Cortez. Yeah, yeah,
there you go. And so we messaged back and forth
on Facebook. He's a nice guy. And if you see...
Jorge and Valdi, how you doing? People are asking,
why are you so quiet? Well, you know what? The
thing is that when you got when you got when
you got people talking like wrestling, I love
to listen. So that you guys sit back and listen
with the person. Yes. Yes. Yes. And that's listening
to it. Just it feeds me more growing up as a
kid watching and knowing you were going to be
here. I was a big fan. in the, in the late eighties
when wrestling started brewing up WWF at the
time watching that and then having you call or
text me, say, Hey man, I'd love to be on your
podcast. You know, what can we set a date? I
go, who's this guy? And I go, all right, I'll
look up in a little bit. All right. You go, yeah,
man, let me set something up. Well, you know,
we'll get it going. And I did the research and
everything. I started seeing your name pop up
level. Holy crap. I go, what did I just dig up?
I go, am I here? I know I was. I was. Really
the valley was nothing like it is now So then
we started coming up her with Diki bento and
her family is from And so we started doing our
engine the outside and then the guy from the
outside shared less ago Israel he said hey, he
came by he said hey I said sure you know Wow
Been there a couple of times Nikki was fighting
for the title against Mike and so we That's awesome.
Oh, it's worth having you down here, man. I'll
tell you that much right now. It's a piece of
cake. I saw that and I saw that you guys were
in a what traffic jam? I mean, wow. Almost. Almost,
yeah, a little long, but no, it's 13 hours. Three
hours. We're almost there. You guys are only
what, 156 miles that we just hit already? Wow.
It's all good. Hell yeah, man. Hell yeah. Well,
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it with michael and before you actually start
talking to michael what's up i want to say something
to really oh here we go Actually, I saw a video
once, you actually wrestled my favorite of all
time, my favorite wrestler of all time. Besides
Stone Cold Steve Austin, Bruiser Brody. I saw
that match, how it went down and everything.
Question Rudy, how did it feel wrestling a guy
like Bruiser Brody? That guy was a beast. It's
hard to explain. No, it was a one -on -one match.
And of course the other one also. a match with
him at Blue Little Butcher. Yes. I saw that one
too. She pulls it up. You know, my daughter pulls
it up. Hey, hey, hey, you know. But he's always
been nice to me. So the story on that match is
I had just did a deal with Gary Hart had a guy
called the American Ninja. And Gary Hart was
trying, so several weeks he did a deal where
the American Ninja guy chopped a tomato can in
half. and uh of course it was it was a little
bit he chopped the watermelon in half and tore
a phone book in half and so he's a bad uh mixed
martial arts guy right so Gary Hart said uh brother
I want you to uh I want you to work with I think
his name was Chris I want you to work with Chris
and uh he's gonna give you a karate chop right
in the neck like, I want you to go down and we're
going to call the ambulance. We're going to take
you out and I'm like, I just saw this guy chopping.
This guy was on the back and behind very hard
like. No, no, he's crazy. And so I took a lot
of that from Gary. Gary goes, we'll bring you
back out. I'm not gonna make you a star. That
was it. Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. No problem. Uh
-huh. So we did the deal. I mean, it's on YouTube.
So we did the deal. And then he gives me a crack
up, I go down. Right. And so they called the
ambulance. The ambulance, we had to stop the
show for about 30 minutes. They called the ambulance.
They put me on a stretcher. The funny part about
it is The doctor doesn't even check me. He runs
in the ring. As soon as I go down, the doctor
is there. Oh yeah, he's paralyzed. You should
YouTube it, bro. I gotta find this video. You
gotta find it. And so they call 911. They put
him on the stretcher. The EMT guys take care
of me. And they're like, oh, you don't move.
I'm trying to make this into, you know, as believable
as possible. Mm hmm. So, think about a dog I
had that died. There you go. I start crying.
There you go. And I'm going through the crowd.
These the old ladies are like, you know, in public.
Well, I had this injury. And then after two weeks,
they said, someone's gonna come out and bring
your neck brace. We're gonna be going, we're
gonna make you wear that neck brace. So they
brought a little rubber neck brace. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. So I had to walk around, some lady, and
each of you was like, hey, I saw you on TV. And
I'm like, oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. I'm doing
fine. And so we did the show, and they finally
called and said, OK, you're off on a Saturday.
Right, right. That's OK. At the time bruiser
buddy was doing this million dollar man who's
putting people out but it gets structured out
stuff right right right so I get there and I
mean Call time wasn't till like four o 'clock.
I was there at noon And then Gary Hart shows
up and he goes, he goes, glad you're back. I'm
like, thank you, Gary. And he goes, okay, so
when I got here, and then we're gonna go to Walset.
He goes, okay, what we got here is you're gonna
go about seven minutes and you're gonna keep
it on TV? And I'm like, yeah. I've been in my
house for the last freaking month. Don't you
think I've been watching TV? said No kidding
And so Gary Hart's like, you know, don't worry
about it, man. No one's gonna know. No big deal.
And he's like, I'm not. And he walks off. Right.
So Gary's talking right back. So then, Ruth,
Frank comes walking back. He goes, all right,
so I'm gonna beat you. But when I go to pin you,
I'm going to pick you up and I'm beating you
up and then they're going to ring the bell and
then I'm going to get disqualified. Oh and I'm
like, okay. It was yeah. So, I'm not going to
at least you'll get the win but I'm right. Right.
Right. Right. That's okay. So, that's what we
do. So, and the referee's trying to stop, stop,
stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop,
stop, stop, stop, Oh, man, that's gotta give
you your flowers man for taking that bump for
a whole month Right To me, buddy, right now,
in my, you're a legend, my man. You are a legend,
bro. You're a legend to me right now. Hell yeah.
Hell yeah. I appreciate you, man. You want to
step out of the room now? Now let's go to the
real fight. Yeah, let's go to the real fight.
You know what? You can go outside and watch it
if you want. There you go. Oh, really? We're
going to go there now? Just the same way that
you have lost against Leaky Fuego. Oh, there
we go. There we go. Cheated from where? Cheated
from where? I don't know. I was just re -announcing
that night. Okay, I'm taking full control back
to the podcast because I don't like where it's
going. All right? Hey, you don't have any chairs,
right? I'll get you one if he gets out of hand.
You be quiet, man. You be quiet. I've already
had enough slaps from me. We want to go ahead
and get with Micah here and find out a little
about you, where you grew up, and how you got
into the rest of it. So, cameras all yours. Go
ahead. Oh, my goodness. So, yes. I'm originally
from Chamin, Mexico. part of New Mexico, right
close to the border of Colorado. Small little
town, but like 15 people. Small town. I can't.
I always loved wrestling, so every time I was
with my grandpas, we'd always love wrestling.
I was always fascinated on how they did everything.
Right. So one time, well, I started working at
the post office. I was already tired of doing
the same old stuff. Live in a small town, everybody
knows everybody. Right, right, right. So I was
like, you know what, you show Michael Spence,
so I like the way you entertain people. I said
all that. I was like, you know what, I want to
do something different. I was supposed to go
to college, I didn't. So I was like, okay. So
I sent a message to Texas Press Entertainment
at 17 years old, which I got ignored. So then
I was like, okay, so at 18 I sent them the message.
Finally, he calls me like at 11 o 'clock at night.
He's like, hey, I'm looking for a son. My name
is Michael. I'm looking for Michael Madrid. I'm
like, hello, yes, this is me. And he's like,
your name, Michael, is it Michelle? I was like,
no, my name is Michael. Said it to my brother.
Oh, OK. So there's a story behind that. All right.
So like, yeah, so he's like, are you Chinese?
Are you American? He's like, I don't know. I'm
not sure, like, a little bit of awful application.
Came down, checked out of school. Also, I went
back home and then I had to decide if I wanted
to come back or not. So, I was like, okay, you
know what? I'm done. I don't want to be there
no more. I want to just get out and just be on
my own. Right, right. My parents brought me.
I thought, no, no, kind of. Get out! I started
in 2011. Had my first match three months in.
Oh my gosh, it was a crazy journey. I got job
after job. Right Wow, that's a good number 13
is a good number a real good number Right, right.
Right, right. Wow, yeah So, I mean is when you
Got into we were talking about earlier about
getting a phone call from the from Wow itself
And I was seeing the background background check
on you and he says it you have quite a few Sponsor
let's say events or different promotions you've
been on I see you've been on AEW also So, yeah,
I went to two NAW events. First one I didn't,
uh, was in wrestling. That was very watchable.
And the last one that we were in, um, was Dallas.
So, I wrestled Thunder Rolls the right before
she got signed. Oh, wow. All Thunder Rolls. Wow,
wow, wow. So, let me intervene real quick. This
is going to go back to Chris and Kiki. So, we
should leave it out. And before that... one of
the good brothers, Luke Gallows. Luke Gallows
was one of the shows in Georgia. Right. And they
needed a girl. And so another mutual friend named
Francisco Siasso, he called me and goes, hey,
man, what are you guys doing on Saturday? Well,
I had something else to do Saturday. I'm like,
I don't know why. He goes, Luke from a show in
some small town in Georgia somewhere. And he
needs a girl. And I'm like, I can go. He goes,
can she? I said, yeah. I know it's short notice,
but man, I'm sorry. I go, hey, she'll be there.
So I told Micah, hey, you wanna go to Georgia?
And she says, yeah, you go. I said, no. So. Me
and my sidekick. There you go. Our daughter went
to Georgia. There you go. And then the promoter
from Shine Wrestling said, hey, is Micah out?
I said, yeah. He goes, well, can she do Tampa
Sunday? Yeah. Yeah. So she went to Tampa for
Shine Wrestling Sunday. So for the AEW spot,
there was a time where all the girls that they
had for the show were getting their rain workouts
up. And so Dustin Rose is watching. And so Luke
Gallows, who's in AEW now, walks by, hey, Micah,
hey, Luke, shake hands, a little hug, thing,
whatever. And then Dustin says, you know her?
And then she sends me a text message. I'm working
tonight. I'm dressing like I'm like holy moly
Talk to Dustin whatever she did a good job and
a good little no problem data data and so Dustin
says hey put her in and so Anything with Kiki
and that's why they say no Kiki and Chris go
out there and do your thing man, and yeah people
watching and let someone else say hey, I saw
those guys, you know and So you wrestle up man,
man Right, right Right. And if you pull up the
YouTube of Micah and Thunderosa, you see the
comments and you see, you know, Micah gets ass.
Micah can do, you know, do a good job. Yeah.
All these. Yeah, that's a really good match.
But. Five minutes. Easy. Really? She didn't get
a, she didn't get signed and so you're like.
Well, I mean, consider the fact not getting signed
for that promotion, but to actually say, hey,
you know what? I did wrestle that. You know,
that's something under your belt is that you
have confidence. You know, I've I've done that.
And now, I mean, now with wow, you did this for
a while now. Right. And how does how is that
going? I mean, then you still. California Las
Vegas Street outside event. It was so nice And
as a matter of fact they were showing that show
on Sundays here in the valley Yes, as a matter
of fact, I was watching it man. I mean meanwhile,
we're sitting down there and she was like What
are you watching? Okay. Wow. And as a matter
of fact, I will be honest the only reason that
I started watching it was because I actually
wanted to see you and we're like, okay, where
is she? Where is she? Where is she? Wow. I'm
using that. I'm using that a lot today guys.
Wow. Man, if you haven't seen that, I was actually
watching the episode of this when they were in
Las Vegas. I mean, wow saves it all, man. Let
me tell you one thing, there's a lot of talent,
a lot. I mean, I was very amazed with those girls.
I mean, I'm a heel and I love that there's one
girl, she was wearing, man, I forgot her name.
Backwards cap and all that The rapper Yes, as
a matter of fact, I love the way she Yes, I'm
like I would even be afraid just to actually
just And I've seen bits and pieces of the I haven't
really really got really gone into watch a lot
of the wall wrestling But when I did start watching
it it brought I mean talk about nostalgia Going
back as a kid watching glow for the first time
and when I saw that I was like, oh my gosh I
go but you know and it's something I tell my
wife like my wife my wife and I want you so I
trust in a lot back and then we don't watch it
as much anymore, but you know, we I will watch
it at one period of time. We've known as the
persona women wrestlers have changed through
the years. You know, you had, you had glow, which
you were the tough ladies threw themselves around
the ring and gave a good show. Then WWE brought
the divas in and there was more flashy, a little
bit more, you know, I didn't, yeah, more prerogative.
I mean, you still had the good wrestlers. I mean,
consider the fact you had Lita and you had, I
really want to throw Trish Trash in the mix there.
People like China, you know, seeing China come
out there. but left and right, you see that persona
of wrestler, women wrestlers change. Now they're
like, they're roughnecks man. They go out there
and they throw down. Yes. One example we're going
to put. Right. And one example I'm going to put,
I mean, and I've actually refereed several of
her matches when she was in the independent.
That's actually who Roxanne Pett is. You know,
Roxy, she was actually Roxy. You know, so she
was actually at Olaredo. I refereed a lot of
her matches in there when she was independent.
And I remember when I actually told her, one
day you're gonna be up there. And look where
she's at now and look at her. I mean her and
Raquel Rodriguez. Look at them, those people,
they're. from the 956 and look where they're
at. Why? Because they have that hard day passion.
They want it. They're going to get it. Great
examples of putting the work in. And they put
the work in. I mean, when Rick told Vicki, I
called her, I called her, Vicki, you know, you
got three years. And she, she, yeah, I mean,
it was, she put the pedal to the metal. Roxanne
used to take a bus from Morelos to Houston. Yes,
I remember that. And then go to school to have
you in. So whatever they have, they deserve.
But the female wrestlers now, like Mark said,
they put more into it. I've seen it where they're
like, I rather watch the female instead of watching
the males because you're like. All of a sudden
you stole the show I came back but not even a
month later He and Kelsey had a match, trying
to defend my Texas Women's title. We tore up
the show three months at one time. We were semi
main, and then it was the guys after us. We tore
it up so much, him and Tokyo, the promoter talking,
and all of a sudden, the poor guys with made
event matched it as a title match. We're like...
We want the females. We want the females. And
we're like, oh, shoot. I was there a lot. They
were like, whoa. The girl named Kelsey Jo. And
big girl. Good worker. I mean, for her side of
the stuff, she does really good. And her and
Michael went out there and bam, bam, bam. And
then they go over to the guard rail. into the
crowd and the fans are just going nuts. Absolutely.
And then they they catch back down. We get back
in the ring. They just finish the match whatever.
Um there's a there's a buzz going and you know
everybody's talking about the match and the most
okay. I guess he was the end of the champion
for a while. Uh so he comes up and goes hey bro
Micah and Kelsey kicked ass bro. They kicked
ass and so we're sitting and talking out of here
just talking over stuff whatever when it gets
you come back that type of stuff. the guys go
out there's a Florida title match or something
and they start off and you know three minutes
form us in the match we want the girls we want
the girls and then we're just like what are they
saying and then we're listening we want the girls
and the guys just kind of like stopped for saying
like so we watched the match and they kept on
and they they kind of tried cranking it up a
little bit and and um Too late. Too late. And
one of the girls, when I told Tokyo, I was like,
dude, next month, they gotta be the main event.
They have to. And he was like, no doubt, bro.
So the next month, they come back to the main
event, same thing, places going nuts, bigger
crowd. And I mean - Because look who the main
event was now. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, so I
mean, I didn't, you know, there's some girls
that go out there and it's - That was a good
example, you know, so Yeah exactly Spice And
then, at the end of the night, somebody sent
me a video of where Kelsey pulls Micah and she
hits her side of the ring. And so, you know,
just a short clip. And then, later on, he sends
me a picture and Kelsey is like, her face is
bloody and what have you. That was one hell of
a match. And she said, I hit her with the cowbell,
she busted her head open. And then I said, what
happened when you hit the ring? And then she
says, oh, I cracked my ribs. And we were going
to the hospital. And I'm like, whoo! She took
a picture. And that girl had like a gas. And
then she messaged me later on. Yeah, they put
staples on her head. And yada yada yada. And
I'm like, what about your ribs? She goes, I don't
know. I'll be all right. I think I'll be OK.
And I'm like, well, just be careful when you
drive back. Just, you know, take it easy. She
goes home. I'm like, can I carry the bag for
you? And then I started noticing, like, she's
doing stuff, whatever, and just like, no big
deal. And I'm like, wait. What really happened?
What really happened? I want a second opinion.
And she never does, so I'm like, history. I'll
look for it. Don't worry. It'll be on there.
You know, one thing really that this is one thing
that we basically lack here in the Valley, girls
wrestling. That's one thing. And basically, Ming
-Huan is the Niki Fuego that we have down here.
I know that there's another young lady coming
aboard I hope you know I've seen her in the training
with new breed and her name is Vivica Jade basically
I can call her the mini Rhea Ripley because she
she looks like that but that girl I see her the
way she trains and she has a big heart for the
sport yeah she has it I see that in her when
I go to the training facilities. I see that a
lot in her and I'm like I'm like, okay, she's
like, oh, I've been training for a while. So,
okay, so what can you do? And you can really
do not smock her or anything, but she can do
anything. And Bree's like, oh, and I pulled the
match out of her. And it's not a wrestling match,
but it was a good match. You guys actually did
a great job. We focused on, and I'm not mocking,
Danny Shantlin, Good dude. Yeah. I don't know
how to do that. I don't know how to do that.
As a matter of fact, do you remember one time
you actually wrestled her and you all did a move?
Okay. I train with her doing that. I train with
her because I know more about lucha libre instead
of American style wrestling. To me lucha libre
is more, to me is more arrow, more everything.
So when she was telling me that she was going
up against you and I go, hey, practice this,
let's practice this and then ask her what does
she think about it? And she actually came to
me and she goes, look, look, look, we did it,
let's say. And she showed it and she was all
excited. Not that I want to take any credit for
that, but a lot of times, you know, us that we've
been in the wrestling business for a long time,
you know, for decades, we can say decades. We
don't we don't mind saying how many years we
have. But a lot of times a small advice can be
big for them. It doesn't have, you know, and
all that and like Kike. Kike Caballero, when
I go into the training facility, he goes, hey,
porque me dice que caguate. And he goes, hey,
caguate, what do you want me to tell him to do
to train? And a lot of these young guys that
are barely coming into this, it's like I always
tell them, Kike, you have to start with the basics.
All right. You know, hazlo changuitos. Don't
train them to already do the heavy stuff because
they're going to get injured. and that's one
thing you don't want from them. Right. They have
because you know already for that you really
have to train for at least minimum I would say
three months. Maybe the maximum six months only
with the basics. Then after that if you feel
comfortable. Doing other stuff that you want
to train to do that then do it Yeah, and it's
like I told a lot of these guys that that all
of a sudden Melissa it was I'm gonna go over
here and I'm gonna wrestle this guy I don't know
nothing about them the advice that I tell them
and I'm pretty sure you agree with me Rudy It's
like hey if you don't feel comfortable doing
something that that that you think or I might
get injured or this don't do it If they get mad
who cares? it's your body you have to think about.
At the same time, the same way you have to take
care of yourself, you also have to take care
of your opponent. Especially as you say, the
base. Like we call it, the base. Man, see, if
one of you, if you don't put the base, like we
call them, oh my God, you're gonna get injured.
Especially when, like we call it in Spanish,
when you make a stop, you know, when you go to
the ropes and you make a stop. You know, hey,
if you don't know how to put that base, guess
what? You're not only gonna injure him, you're
gonna injure yourself too. That's true, that's
true. Maybe they don't know as much about you,
or maybe they know more. For example, like, working
with Evil Beast at Shine, she taught me so much
on how to slow down, how to call in that child
to just relax in the rain. And at the same time
be aggressive. Yeah, at the same time be aggressive.
You watch the release of the match, and everyone
tells me, oh, she's so beautiful. She is like
one of the women that I go to and be like, hey,
how do I do this, or what's this, or that? Going
to OVW, working for Elle Snow in Kentucky. House
no, sweet. Everybody wants a man. What does everybody
want? Maria Padilla, she's the one that runs
the women's division at OVW. She is a locker
room. And so every year I go to, it's called
the Niner Rubble. So that would be 10K6 right
there, women's rumble. OVW, does that still exist?
But that's not that that wrestling organization
is not affiliated anymore with WWE. Yeah, Randy
Orton, Brock Lesnar, none of us. John Cena came
from there. Right, right That's where I would
say like a lot of these roles that are just in
training centers with just men, you need to go
out there and also with other females and get
to work with them. Right, right, right. So I'll
tell you, whenever I have roles in a training
at the Dr. Justin Academy, it's different because
I'll be like, can you put the guys aside, let
us just go out there with each other and work
on stuff. It's so much different and easier.
I'll get the guy that had to ring it out. But
I mean, they'll have their 30 minutes to do whatever
they want. But like I said, years ago, Mercedes
Martinez said, girls train differently than guys.
Don't try and train. So after that. And one of
the days that you guys are actually down here,
I would love to introduce you guys to Vivica.
There was a girl that Michael worked with one
time. She came down and did a show for New Greed.
Well, actually, yeah, she was. As a matter of
fact, we saw her last Sunday, right? We saw her
on Sunday. She actually stepped down. We don't
know why. She stepped down early. I know that
she had a very thing with Niki Fuego. She had
a very thing with that. But yeah, I don't know
what happened. there was something there and
I wanted to talk to her but uh if I remember
that it was cold so I just wanted to get out
of there. I remember that so yeah I was wondering
what happened to her. Yeah she's around but she
hasn't been around the wrestling ring or even
the even practicing for a long time. For some
people sometimes it's not like I was talking
to some girls the other day like you don't know
how much dedication and how much time it takes
from you like missing family events, missing
Everything like like I said my daughter goes
with me on the road like she shouldn't have to
be doing all that stuff like you know she enjoys
it so it's great she gets to meet all kinds of
different people all the sacrifices that she
do it's crazy but at the end of the day like
this past week we've been going to WrestleCade
like I wasn't supposed to wrestle so I go as
Sylvia Sanchez I'm always sending autographs,
selling pictures talking to fans, talking to
people that I haven't seen in forever the promoter
comes up to me telling from late tonight out
I haven't worked for him since 20, 25 years.
And he's like, hey, I didn't know you're still
wrestling. And I guess some people told him I
wasn't wrestling. And I was like, yeah, I still
wrestle. And he's like, OK. He's like, you want
to wrestle? I mean, yeah, sure. But that was
my mic. I think he was like, yeah, I'm available
any time. I work for a while now, so I have to
take a consideration. Like, hey, I need to talk
to David McClain. I need to talk to him. Right,
right, right, right. And that's the way you do
business. Yeah, that's the way you do business.
But that goes back into Keke and Chris's. She
wrote, she did some stuff for him in 2025. And
that was five years ago. So we're at WrestleCade
and she signed autographs and he walks by, I
see him and he's like, hey Micah, and they start
talking. And so I understand it. And then he
comes up to me, shakes my hand, hey good seeing
you Rudy and walks off. And then she says, I'm
wrestling tomorrow. Because of she did because
of the work she did years ago and easy She'll
do this, she'll do that. There was a situation
a few years ago where she was going to do a deal
with the boogie man. It was her and another girl
and the other girl was supposed to get to work.
She sent me a message before their match. Right
before we were going out. Right before. Right
before. They want to put the horns on now. I
put my phone down and they asked if I could use
my phone. I'm like, damn, I'm already in the
ring. She said they want to put the horns on
now. I'm like, did y 'all talk about this already?
She said, no, don't do it. And she's like, what
do I tell them? Say no. And so she goes, well,
I'll figure it out. So they do the match, they
get on the mat, and here he comes. And I was
like, what is she doing? It's called good TV.
That's her business. All right. So that company
closed. Another company came in. and ran the
same building. And so she's supposed to wrestle.
Same building. So James Beard and Eric Embry
were running the show. And so they're like, Michael
Russell. And I'm like, you know, she, I said,
yeah, you know, whatever. But I'm thinking the
last time she was in that building, they put
worms in her mouth. Not this time. Not this time.
So she had a match with Marty Bell. Marty Bell
is a world -class wrestling women's division
champion. And Michael was a fill -in. But because
Michael was so easy to work with and didn't make
a big commotion with the Worms situation or whatever,
once ago, for her match, who wins? Miss Micah
herself? I did. I messed up the match. And I'm
sitting there like, what the? And then James
Beard. And Eric Emory. And Eric Emory looking
at me and they're laughing. And I'm like, what?
We're not laughing about it. Did y 'all say it?
Did y 'all call this? And they're like, Maka's
a good kid. She's a good kid. All right. All
right. Did you just say Eric Emory? Eric Emory,
yes. Oh, my God. Oh, man. He was also one of
my favorite role. So I was a Southwest champion.
Eric Emory. So Saturday, I. We're gonna replicate
and Luke Williams one of the bushwhackers was
there sign autographs and So Luke Williams years
ago Luke Williams is the one that pulled the
trigger for me to start wrestling So I went up.
Hey Luke. How you doing? He's like Rudy he got
up went around the table gave me a hug I mean
a tight like you know how like you go up to people
like hey, how you doing? Yeah, whatever this
was like a tight It was like, you know, there
was feeling behind it. Right. And he goes, it's
been so long. He goes, it's been so long, Rudy.
He goes, how long has it been? I'm like, about
40 years, man. He goes, how have you been? He
goes, man, I'm so glad you're still in the business.
And I'm like, I got to thank you. You're the
one that, and I said, you, Eric, and there was
a guy named Jonathan Boyd. You, Eric and Jonathan
are the ones that made that call. That's awesome,
man. I just want to tell you, thank you. That's
awesome. He gave another hug. He goes, my pleasure.
He goes, you're always a good boy. You're always
a good boy. And just, you know, and I've gotten
to where, like, I just want to tell all the guys,
through the years I've had Manny Fernandez, Chavo,
I was able to make peace with him. I'm not going
to make peace with him. Raging boom, Manny Fernandez.
Chavo, you know, me and Chavo had beers together
when she was a baby. And he would look at her
like, and then look at me like. Are you sure
that's your daughter? What are you doing with
this guy, you know? I wish I could have told
Butch. Butch, you know, Butch's partner, you
know, thank you and stuff. I mean, he passed
away a couple of years ago. But Eric, you know,
he was running the world -class promotion for
a while and you know, we talked for, I mean,
I was doing this stuff, you know. Somebody's
chopping onions. Damn allergies! All those guys
mean so much to me. They're the reason why I'm
still doing this. That's awesome. Telly, telly,
telly, and, you know, but I love the man to death.
I mean, he's, you know, he's still Tully Blanchard,
but, you know, people are like, hey, he's actually,
man, he's good, he's good to me. You know, I
just want to tell all the guys that, gave me
that little push. Just thank you, man. And then
when that happens, I share it with my students
because I want one day for them to appreciate
what they're doing and hopefully appreciate the
work that we're putting in to get them to do
right. Exactly. Kiki says to me, hey, Rudy, I
just want to take you guys through that. Chris
will say, hey, thanks, bro, whatever. Steve.
He's not on the show in San Antonio, but he sent
me a message. I'll be there And a lot of times
we thank all those people, those people that
actually opened the doors for us. And can I say
us because I remember that all of a sudden I
used to get some phone calls, hey, are you so
and so? Okay, yeah. uh yeah hey i need a referee
i need for this match and all that because for
so many years i did it before i actually i still
do it every once in a while if i want to but
i do more ring announcing um but i mean just
to get that phone call from people that i don't
even know and all of a sudden they're like hey
well we heard a lot about you and all that you
know hey we want you to come we're having this
show Can you referee for us and all that? Absolutely.
And I've been very blessed in this business to
actually have known and still know a lot of people
that are way up there. I'm sorry. I'm laughing
at the comments that are coming out and Casito's
making me laugh because don't thank, don't thank
Micah no more because she calls me Yoron. Casito,
Nicky's dead. Nicky's dead. It's all my work
Christmas, I have some of my daddums that are
made in Lithuania so he could just use it. Oh,
don't worry, he's listening. He's listening.
He's listening like we're at Russell Cain. I
have been in the next part of the country and...
in years in years and I'm I'm just just I'm the
driver from right there and I took Sabino Blazer
with her and um Sabino made a connection with
his people you know um but I'm just standing
at the table just you know looking around and
someone comes up Rudy are you Rudy are you Rudy
Gonzalez yeah and then yes I am oh yes I am Come
train to see if you're fake. It's on video. It's
on YouTube. It's like. I got you. And uh so that
went on a few years ago. That went on. That went
viral and everybody was like, yeah, you're an
idiot because you still believe in wrestling
and you're but that's what we do. That's what
we're supposed to do and so I'm like, hey, if
he still believes us, so what and leave alone.
Yeah. So he sent me a couple of messages. This
was like five, six years ago. Hey, thank you
for defending me. And I look up to you and all
that stuff. I'm like, hey, no problem. I appreciate
that. So Saturday, we're there to have a wrestling
show at that WrestleCade. And the promoter, Tracy
Meyers, takes me and Michael and the rest of
the people to go get us some seats. And so this
guy sends me a message. He's like, hey, man,
I didn't know you were at WrestleCade. Yeah,
I'm here. You know watch the show goes I want
to meet you. I'm here at the hotel Everyone had
a hotel across the street And uh, I was there
earlier, but my back was doing problems So I
had to come home and I had to come to the hotel
address whatever and I'm like if you're back
to your problems of distress, man Yeah, I want
to come and meet you. I want to come in and I'm
like, you know, he's like we all sit that I just
said we're watching wrestling matches He kept
messaging me and I was ignoring him So we're
watching matches I feel And he was got down on
his knees I'm like you want to see what? He was
holding me tight he was you know, I mean stuff
like that man it makes you So on my end sometimes
I get so frustrated with some stuff that these
guys do this like bands It's not for me. No more
then stuff like this happens. Just like yeah
Yeah, no matter how pissed off I get off with
it. This is why there you go. Yeah, and uh, you
know, I told him, you know, you know You sit
down. It's my privilege to sit. He was there
for like five minutes. He was there for almost
like two matches and those matches were over.
Long matches? That's awesome. Like half an hour,
yeah. Wow. And then finally he left. He's like,
I don't want to keep you from the matches and
you already have but. I already missed two thanks
to you. So he left and you know, I just sat there
watching matches but my head was like. There
are people out there that still. Yeah. Like you
love wrestling and even though the participants,
the players act like fools, the fans still love
that. Yeah, sure, they eat it up. They eat it
up. And so, you know. You know, and a lot of
these fans that that sometimes, you know, during
the match that they take it very personally,
you know, all of a sudden, those are the ones
that become your best friends. You know, you
know. I've made so many friends because of the
way I was. My wife knows me that I'm actually
a rudo. I've always been 100 % rudo. I'm a heel.
Still is. I'm a heel. I'm one of those that I
want the people out there to hate me. Right now,
I'm actually just a manager. You're doing a great
job, buddy. You're doing a real great job. I
know that. And unfortunately, she doesn't like
that because she thinks they're going to get
up and beat me up. It's hard for short people
to get heat like that. I know. Yeah, I know.
That's OK. You're short too, Rudy. Maybe one.
Maybe one. I'm older, so the older you get, the
shorter you get. It's gravity. It pulls you down.
I don't have any hair. It's gravity. I'm fully
doubted. Oh, OK. I got it here. I have a question
for Rudy and Armando. It says, what do you all
think about... AEW doing all the blood and board
and nails like the what Moxley what what do you
think about that? Yeah, that's just you know,
it's not for me. I'm not I'm used to Like they
say software for the sheepers. They were like
the innovators of hardcore wrestling and At that
time, you know, there was a lot of blood stuff
like that, but it was Manifred is a charmer girl
fighting the sheep herders for weeks and weeks
and they cheated and then they hit him with a
chair and they hit him with a table and You can
see you can hear the buzz in the air when fans
are showing up like You have the matches and
then we're going to take a 45 minute intermission
to set the cage up and we have to take the cage.
These five teams set it up like now they do.
They just drop it down. They know what a lot
of coaches do is they set the cage up and they
have all the matches in the cage. Oh yeah, that's
true. That's true. I think Danny did that a couple
years ago. Well actually it's because we have
those kind of I guess shows. I mean every year
we have. It's only once a year, it's not all
the time. Where all the matches, all five matches
are inside a cage and all that. So Nikki said
- Nikki was very nervous. She basically said,
I'm gonna be in a cage. Don't worry about it,
sweetie. That's where she belongs. Wow. That's
where she belongs. and I'm like, we're going
to cage match. She said, anything goes. And I'm
like, why? And she said, uh because all the matches
are going to be in a cage. And I'm like, What
I wasn't there that day, right That's the most
stupidest thing. But you got to admit something
to me, in my opinion. If you're going to be in
a cage match, use the cage. That's the whole
thing about it. That's true. Okay. Don't just
wrestle. You know, don't just do a wrestling,
a regular wrestling match inside. Use it. Scratch
the guy, you know. Pound them, you know, get
on top of it, jump down. That's the bad thing
about it is they don't know how to use it. And
no one, you know. You don't really get taught
how to use a cage, you know, in common sense.
Me, believe me, if I would have been with somebody
in there, believe me, I would have I would have
used it as much as I could. The first cage match
that I saw working as a referee and stuff. I
mean, yeah, the referee and and I was right there
right next to the guys. you know and and you
know whoever would you know tell me about something
while this guy is doing whatever he's doing and
the fans are screaming hollering and he goes
back over here and and then you know and everything
and so that's how I learned that's how I learned
how to do cable by watching these guys right
and and going 100 miles into into the thing with
no fear and just yeah running into it you know
And so what I do, I've only done maybe two or
three. But same thing, man, if a guy, I'll tell
a guy, throw me in it. The worst thing you want
to do is, like you said, have a cage match and
not even use it. Have a tables match. Not even
use the tables. Oh, gosh. I mean, if you're going
to be in any kind of match like that, whether
it's a hardcore cage match, bowl rolls, whatever.
Dude. Use it, use it, that's gonna be your advantage,
man. And that's why I'm actually hoping that
they can give me permission for, cuz my dream
is actually just to have one less match. Don't
worry, you'll get one when you get home. Okay,
but then again, you know why, Mark. Yeah, I watch
it, yeah. Which actually after the show, I'm
not sure if you guys are aware, but I'll let
you guys know what's going on. Obviously, don't
you have some - And why? We can talk about it
later. Yeah, we'll talk about it later. The only
reason why I'm telling you to go cut it short,
because we're already about an hour, 25 minutes.
That's OK. No, it's not. That's OK. That's OK.
Stop. We have three. Of course. No, go ahead.
Go ahead. Go ahead. Just say one thing. Go for
it. Go for it. We worked with Nikki, and others
are supposed to be about Mike and stuff. We worked
with Nikki for about a year now. Yeah. Good girl.
Great family. her dad does anything and everything
to try and keep her on track. Right, right, right.
Always ask me questions. And so, you know, and
I bring this up because not all parents are like
that. No, my are sure not like that. You know,
I mean, the first time I actually did it, I remember,
you know, my dad wasn't too much of a fan of
me doing it. You know, he wasn't too much of
a fan. As a matter of fact, on my very first
match, he actually went. And he came back and
the first thing they ask is, how did it go? But
then again, it's because we love it. A lot of
times we don't have, even though my dad was a
big time fan of Lucha Libre, he didn't like the
idea of me joining it. My mom and dad never saw
me wrestle. My dad would watch wrestling late
at night when I was younger. And then when I
got into wrestling and my dad, I was supposed
to go to school. And my dad said, how's school
going? I'm like, I'm working for Southwest Wrestling.
What are you doing? Putting the ring up and selling
t -shirts. How much do you pay? So my dad said,
you gotta move out. So when Jacinto, you know,
says to me, hey, what do you think about this?
Or any parent messaged me about, you know, their
kid wrestling or whatever. Man, I greatly...
He's very proud of her. ...appreciate it. And
at the same time, like, you know, her parents
totally against it. And, you know, not going
in too much, but really tried, you know, really
tried sabotaging... you know yeah but we did
a show in her hometown and we had four or five
hundred in a town i was joking but i wasn't joking
and her kind of trauma is like like 10 people
there that's probably a thousand at the show
that we had in her hometown We had about 400
or 500 people. So basically you had half of the
town in there. Yeah, I had some surrounding towns.
And then it was in the newspaper the next day,
front page. And so a couple of months later,
we go back to her town or whatever. We go to
her mom's house. Her mom's making dinner, breakfast,
whatever. Her mom goes, you were in the front
page. She tells her, you know you were on the
front page of the newspaper after y 'all showed
when y 'all were here, right? And Mike was like,
yeah. And she was, did y 'all get a copy of the
newspaper? And I got a couple. And I said, yeah,
I got a couple copies. She opened the paper to
her. She bought all of them. She opened the paper
to her. If you want another copy, you're like
a beast. Wow. But she was the mom. The mom was
also like, she doesn't have to be doing this.
She had no business doing this. She should go
home back then. back home to Chalmers, you shouldn't
have no business here. We need to back it up.
You're just completely anti -wrestling. And so
when all that stuff was happening, when I saw
the crowd there, the whole time I'm like, all
the Western side autographs, all the Western
side autographs and pictures, and Micah's line
was, shh, shh. And I'm like, who are all these
people? She's like, that's my cousin. That's
my idea. I went to school with her. And this
guy I used to date. And I'm like, I thought he'd
be a good guy. Thanks, boyfriend. Thanks, boyfriend.
Thanks, boyfriend. But that's what I like to
see is when the parents and the families are
like, you shouldn't be wrestling. There's no
money in that. And then you're successful at
it. And then it's like, take that. you know you
want to push in their face you know and that's
how it was i say that and in my my i said my
mom and dad never saw me wrestle but there's
times where i'm like you don't want me doing
this but i made it work i made it work you know
i say it vengefully also like i wish they would
i wish that at some point they would you know
right right right yeah sometimes you wish they
would support you right rudy Right? You can get
your ass kicked when you get home. You know what?
We'll film it. When I see Nicky's people come
in, you know, the mom, the dad, the aunt, the
cousins, the family members and stuff. And she
had a whole session. I'm just like, yeah, that's
how it is. That's how it is. Yeah, that's how
it is. It was a quick shout out for her dad,
you know, Nicky's can suck an egg. But I mean,
you know, her parents, her family. And before
we leave, Rudy, what are you coming back to down
here to the valley? So February 1st, we're in
Arlington, Texas. Okay. And then February 15th.
15th. West Lico. Okay. All right. And I'm working
on getting the, what's his name, Atomical. He
was on AAA. the little midget guy. Almost whatever
his name was. I'm working on getting the midget
guy. I'm also - You gotta bring him to the studio,
bro. I want to meet that guy so bad. I'm also
working on getting some wow talent. Yeah, okay.
Down here as well. I mean, Nikki, I think, so
the last time we were in West Coast, I had Nikki
wrestle with girl name. Avedon. Avedon, which
was - She was once. you know, when she when you
work, when you wrestle with talent better than
you, you get better. Oh yeah. And so, that's
where Nikki's at is you need to get in the ring
with talent better than her and and uh you know.
She'll get better. Actually, my dream match is
against her. After a while, Nikki versus Mike
is going to sell you more tickets. I think your
wife will give you pointers. This is what you
need to do, Mija. No. Mija, if you're going to
hit him, hit him here, hit him here, hit him
here. First of all, guys, I want to say thank
you for coming out on the podcast. I appreciate
you guys so much to you come into the studio
with so much baggage, man. I mean, I can pick
your brain for hours and hours. Yes. I mean,
just to hear all these matches you were in. I
know I want to plan you to come back again so
we can really say there's plenty more. Yeah,
I know. I know. I didn't even say not even the
tip of the iceberg. just tip of the iceberg man
and I mean I want to say thank you for taking
the time to coming down from San Antonio to here
to west of Texas to be just to be on our podcast
man I appreciate that from the bottom of my heart
all my fans that are here all the guys that are
viewing which All of them are here are really
yelling out here that they really want to see
Nicky versus Armando and they're saying, peanut
head, please shut up. This is Mark. I told you
bro, time would fly. Yes, I know. I knew that
time will fly, especially with two great people
on the podcast. Yeah, the coast is all right.
But they're not even close. But having these
two guests on the podcast. It it's not only an
experience for me But I hope it builds a bridge
between us to whenever you do guys do come down
You want to or you want to send some of your
talent this way to they can experience to be
on a podcast So they get used to speaking and
Mike skill display exactly and I appreciate that
I Offer the the olive branch to hey whenever
you want to send somebody send them to you, man
I will make time for them Like you know like
this. I mean this is usually we do podcasts with
a little laptop or whatever Yeah Yeah, it's a
different experience because when he walked in
he's like dude I want to do a podcast but uh
is uh yeah, this is too much And then one guy
controls everything. Absolutely. Yeah. Edmar,
thank you so much for having me. As soon as I,
like I said, as soon as I mentioned your name.
Lock the door. Yeah, I'm next time locking the
door. And see your white weather, please do lock
the door. That's when I told her that they were
coming. Oh, am I going with you? Yes. It's a
must. It's a must. It's a must. So like I was
telling you earlier. There was a time where,
there was a night where I was, you know, everything
was just like, ah, and I just sitting there just
scrolling through my phone and drinking my little
fire bar. And then, and then these two pop up
on the front porch. I don't know, they're dancing
or whatever. Yeah. And I was just like, that's
life, man. Yeah, it is. You know, we, we did.
Russell came last weekend. We're doing this today.
We're no just tomorrow Saturday and Sunday our
day off and then Monday back to she goes to work
out of the training and then uh back to you know,
like a process, right? Yeah. Did I just I wish
I wish I could. Well, I don't have to dance but
I was just like sit back and just Just a reminder
guys heads up and I know I see those tossing
me this right now as a reminder Nikki will be
on the podcast on the 18th of this month of December.
So yes She can go to the podcast, but she can't
go to training. Oh, OK. Shots fired. Here we
go. You're going to invite me for that one. No,
I'm not inviting you for that one. And Chris
just said, Mano ruined the podcast. Just kidding.
We'll see you tomorrow, Chris. But anyways, like
I said once again, guys, thank you so much for
coming out. Thank you for taking the time and
coming to the little podcast show that we. put
together next year, like I told Mandito here
that we are strictly going four weeks or three
weeks of nonstop wrestling interviews. And in
the last week, we'll have a local artist come
in and take on spots. So we're going to try to
push as much as we can the wrestling scene down
here because it is blossoming super fast. And
I like the fact that the communities are getting
more involved. So that's something I want to
dip my toes in. Have fun. Have at it, man. So
thank you so much once again, Rudy, Michael.
Thank you very much for being on the podcast.
I appreciate you guys. Oh, just in case guys,
we put this back over here. Put these guys in
the main picture. If you want to follow Rudy
here, I got his QR code right here. Click on
that little QR code. It takes us straight to
that matching pair right there. Click on that
QR code. It takes us straight to Rudy's page
right there. TWA. Find out what's going on in
their neck of the woods. And don't forget, there's
Mike in Madrid right here. Everything that's
going on in her world. Click on that QR code
and message her. Find out what's going on and
say, hey, what's going on? I'm pretty sure she'll
respond back. Ladies and gentlemen. That is our
podcast for tonight. What a wonderful, great,
long podcast. I can see the peanut next to me.
It's just you, buddy. Every single time you come,
we go one hour, it's always an hour and 30 minutes,
hour and 40, and you're making me talk, and we're
getting close to two hours. Shit! anyways pardon
my language but anyways guys once again thank
you so much for tuning in tonight everybody who's
watching attendance thank you don't forget to
share follow subscribe guys i appreciate every
single one of you guys um also oh before i go
before i go no i got gifts i forgot i got gifts
for you guys right there on that table got two
caps for you right there right there those are
your guys caps right there and that little cylinder
that's right there really that's for you to put
up in your office or your gym and that black
bag right there go ahead and uh stick your hand
in there both of you and grab one little item
inside there uh yeah one little not that kind
of item but don't look in there just stick your
hand in there get it get your hand in there reach
in there that one's for you and get one more
for yourself There you go, that's it. Just one,
man. Just one. Can I have one? No, you can't,
no. You can't. And a Merry Christmas to you guys,
man. I appreciate you guys coming down. Thank
you. Ladies and gentlemen, that is the podcast
for tonight. We'll see you next week, Tuesday.
Only reason I'm doing it on Tuesday, because
Thursday is my anniversary. 26 years with the
wife, man. No sé cómo me aguantan, pero me quieran.
But next week, we have a cotton candy factory
coming in. So I know Chu's gonna be right in
that seat. He's gonna dose his self up as much
as he can for the diabetes he's got. So, oh god.
Thank you so much. We will see you next week.
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Thanks. Peace out.