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What's going on guys? Welcome back to chew new

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pockets. I wanted to start off first Before we

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get into the show on the topics. We'll be talking

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today. They're gonna be sensitive topics like

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I mentioned on our Facebook page Some of the

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opinions will be tossed out today will be By

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chew and myself, you know, these are different

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opinions it is What we have the right to feel

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what not to feel how we would we stand? But anywho,

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before we jump into that, we want to take the

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time to respect those who served or passed away

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during the 9 -11 events. They were in our prayers

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from here on out and all the tragedy that happened

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in Utah and in Colorado. So just five seconds

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of silence please. All right, guys, let's go.

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Welcome to the show. We're diving into the world

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of local talent, artists, wrestlers, and businesses.

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Let's get started. Welcome to the Chew and Who

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podcast. What's going on, guys? Welcome back

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to the Chew and Who podcast. I am here today.

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Fortunately, I am not alone. I have this man

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is back. Ladies and gentlemen, he is back with

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us today. It's been nasty weather out there,

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but we were able to get him out of the hole he

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lives in and bring him into today, buddy. The

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weather outside is so frightful. But the studio

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is so delightful. I got air conditioning. It's

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not even Christmas yet. I feel like I'm in the

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mood for the holidays. Right. But episode 260.

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Episode 260 on today's podcast, guys. It's a

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way different kind of episode. This is an episode

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where we are, like beforehand, we did give a

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warning in the very beginning. We did send out

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an actual Facebook announcement, everything,

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what today's topics are gonna be. They're gonna

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be a little touchy. They might be a little bit

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upsetting for everyone, just like everywhere

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else in the world. We're just gonna give our

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thoughts. whether or not they differ from yours,

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it's not intentional. We're just giving our thoughts

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and hopefully help people to gain a different

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perspective without inciting any kind of violence

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or anger. It seems like everyone is just way

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too... willing to jump to extremes nowadays.

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Right now, yeah. And before we even get, if you

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guys already know what we're talking about, we're

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gonna start off first with all due respect with

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our thoughts and prayers to 9 -11, man. One of

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the infamous days, I mean, for me being around

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itself, to witness it, it was... It was crazy.

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It was crazy and guys you feel free to to answer

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or speak out yourself in the comments man Don't

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be afraid to put whatever you like on there on

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what you want to say So we will try to post it

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up as busy and make sure it's it's something

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Nothing too harsh guys, you know, we do have

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to follow the the bylaws on what Facebook offers

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and yeah Just keep it civil like you're talking,

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you know to a family member There's no need to

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go in on your personal politics. Just try to

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keep it at bay. When you get a chance to be on

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the show, you can release all you want. Today,

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right now, on the first out of the podcast, we

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wanna talk about 9 -11, guys. And the first question,

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Chu and I were talking about, I mean, this was,

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I'll put it up right here so everybody can see

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this. The first question is, where were you when

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it all started? I'll let Chu go ahead and answer

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first, man. Where were you, Chu, when it first

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started, when you saw all this witnessing on,

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well, fortunately on television, because there

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was no way we were in the vicinity of New York,

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so, but where were you, what was going on? Yeah,

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no, I remember... That day I I had woken up late

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and My mom was sitting in the living room, you

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know being uncharacteristically quiet and I went

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into the living room and asked her how you know

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what she was doing and all she do was you know,

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tell me look at the TV and that's when I saw

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What looked like a building on fire and I was

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like, oh what's going on there? And you know,

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it took me a minute to to fully comprehend, to

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fully register what was going on, and then what

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was happening, and pick up on what the news broadcasters

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were saying at the time. And then not too long

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afterwards, watching the second building be attacked

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by the second plane. believing what I was watching.

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How is this possibly real? How is this happening?

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I remember that there was a lot of confusion

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still going on because nobody really knew what

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was happening. I think everyone was still working

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under the assumption that it was some kind of

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accident and it wasn't until a little bit after

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the second tower was hit. that everyone started

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to realize oh my gosh this is happening yes the

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country's under attack right right and once those

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words were uttered by someone i mean the tone

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of everything just changed right like it was

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palpable like everywhere yeah Everywhere now

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we have our first comment. Here's from David

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Garcia. What's up, Dave? Same fifth grade class

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teacher walked in and whispered something to

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our teacher walk walked home and saw it on TV

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playing it over and over again. Yeah, that was

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Unfortunately for myself I was actually working

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in the school At the time and I had just dropped

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off my student off to his classroom And then

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at that moment I said only with some coffee,

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you know and go back to where I have to have

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to go So I head over to the break room and I'm

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getting my coffee and I'm seeing people sitting

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down watching television. I'm like, what's going

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on here? And I'm looking at the television and

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I see exactly the same thing, one of the buildings

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on, you know, smoking up. I didn't know what

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was going on. So I'm in disbelief. I'm looking

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at it. Man, the first thing that crossed my mind,

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what movie is this? This is a movie? Y 'all watching

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a movie in here? What's going on? And the more

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and more I look at it, I see what time it is,

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the date, the month. uh then it says new york

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twin towers i i froze and the same thing you

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said man holy crap we were under attack yeah

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and uh i you know to be in that i mean i can't

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compare what i felt to what the people in new

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york felt but the the tragedy that was happening

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on tv watching it on tv knowing that it was happening

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kind of scared to leave me because I mean, if

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it happened there, it's going to start happening

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everywhere. Are we are we being invaded? Are

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we getting attacked? What's what's going on?

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Why is anybody talking? That's that's what led

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them to the to the scare because like the next

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day over here on South Padre Island, a barge

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crashed into the causeway. Yes. And so that just

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sent everyone really like, OK. They're here in

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the valley, you know, we're under attack too,

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you know What do we do? You know people literally

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started but it just it was just a terrible, you

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know coincidence at the time, but we didn't know

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that right because like, you know, it just so

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happened like oh like This on a causeway, you

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know, this never happened before And the timing

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of it was just terrible. And you're talking,

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I guess, great minds think alike. Casinto just

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put in that, we shall never forget the lost lives

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of 9 -11. But I remind you, days after that,

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we had a tragedy on the Rio Grande Valley as

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well. Yeah, the barge hit the bridge, you know,

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all that SPI, where loves were lost. And yeah,

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in September of that year, yes, it's true, man.

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It's crazy. And then I have another one here

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by True King says, I remember I was... at BCG

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class, BCIS class, second period, junior year,

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they put us on the, they put it on the TV and

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we were watching it. And you know, and to be,

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to see that happening live, it was, it lost for

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words. I could not even begin to piece. Things

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together on why what's going on? What what happened?

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What first thing I that comes on. What did we

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do? You know to have this happen to us That's

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you know, that's the first thing that crosses

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my mind. What do we do? For this to happen in

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our homeland in our country. What what is it?

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You know and it a lot of that runs through your

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mind, dude I mean you start thinking about your

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family. I gotta get home Got a chick for my wife's

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okay. I got you my parents are okay. I think

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my wife's parents are okay everybody All my loved

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ones are okay. I gotta make sure everybody's

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fine, but to see that was just Unimaginable dude

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it was it was crazy, so you're watching this

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with your mom on TV And what's the discussion

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had between you and your mom? Honestly, it was

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just really just a bunch of stunned silence because

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she didn't really know what to say or what to

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think either She had never experienced anything

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like this either So, you know, it was just it

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was just on silence between the two of us and

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just we just couldn't take our eyes off of the

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news. Right. And, you know, it was like that

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for the next six weeks. Yes. Next six weeks is

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just like go to bed, listening to the news, wake

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up, listening to the news, you know, spend the

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day, you know, close to the TV, seeing what you

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know new news was coming. but you know it was

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just it was just that like that non -stop six

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weeks it was right yeah I mean this just like

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this was the only thing happening in the world

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right you know and so much so that even other

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countries you know got into you know yeah paying

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homage to to the country by you know playing

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the national anthem you know I remember Great

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Britain did that you know they played the national

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anthem and you know just in solidarity for us

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and And you know more to Off the point which

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that you made like you went home and you had

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to check on your family Make sure everything

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was all right. Yeah, you know, I I give it to

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all the Americans who had the kind of like a

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different reaction where they're like I Need

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to do something right. I need to act to protect

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our country. We're under attack I need to do

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something right and enlistment in the army and

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the Armed services really just shot through the

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roof. Yeah. Yeah, and I got baby deep a big shot

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to baby D man He was here on the podcast last

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week with group or middle via he's saying I still

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can't I can still get the image of the man jumping

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out of the window from the 80th floor or something

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like that I because I can't even jump off my

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damn table and go dude. That was I still remember

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that image that image was crazy, dude That was

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it was nuts. It was nice to see that and that

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guy would have rather you know wrist yeah jumping

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instead of being burned then being burned to

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that uh to a crisp by that jet fuel man you know

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and then it's you know stuff like that man i

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think about that every day you know to live because

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you know our grandparents Our grandparents or

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our great -grandparents have seen stuff like

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they've seen war You know our soldiers going

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to war and what what they went through I mean,

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I you know grandparents that have been probably

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been to World War two You know, they're they're

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around around that time when all that happened

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At the time so to see that to be in the moment

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when it's happening with Vietnam the Korean War

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all that stuff that was off off of our our soil

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and then for this to happen Right close to home.

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It's just it's just unimaginable It's unimaginable,

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especially in some place like New York City,

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right? Yeah. Yeah, you know you think of New

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York City Oh, man, all the all the people all

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the you know up until then it was uh, you know

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Just pretty much like the unofficial capital

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of the United States, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah, you know Everybody wanted to go to New

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York, you know for whatever reason. Yeah I hear

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you man. I hear you and To see it under attack

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and you know people dying on the news like that

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that had never been shown before well not for

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not for a good long time right right right right

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people didn't remember you know the the 60s and

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70s right so to see you know something like that

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man jumping yeah really just you know stuck with

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everybody who saw it was something that was imprinted

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in our minds for the rest of our lives to see

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that man It's which leads to the next question

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on here on the ball. I got another I got another

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a comment here. I'll do one second and The wife

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is watching it wasn't just New York, but also

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the Pentagon. Yes, that's true Yeah, the Pentagon

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the passengers are charged with Pennsylvania.

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Also. Yeah, they lost their lives Yep, maybe

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recipe thoughts and prayers. I found yes. Yeah

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heroes on the Pennsylvania When I read that when

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I heard about that, you know, bro, he kind of

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It like what you said Joining the orange forces

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and doing that, you know, you know what they

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did to stop that plane to hurt any more other

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people they went down they went down not only

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as casualties but as heroes absolutely to save

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Maybe thousands of more lives that that was that

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was gonna happen. You know, absolutely it's really

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kind of kind of juggles the back of my throat

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right now trying to swallow a frog right now,

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dude, because it's it's It really it really makes

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you Wonder what happened to that just like those

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Americans? They got together Maybe not intention,

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you know intending to you know Die that day right,

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but they decided like we're gonna stop these

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guys, right? It's a very heroic act and then

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the loved ones calling yes home and saying their

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goodbyes to their family, bro Yes, that's oh

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my god. That must be the most hardest phone call

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to make, to have that be put in that situation.

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It's horrible. It's horrible. I don't say this

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lightly, but it's one of the things that I'm

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sure a lot of people wish we could go back and

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undo for all the whatever good or whatever we

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might have learned from what happened, I'm pretty

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sure. everyone would rather it never have happened

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exactly which comes to the next question is how

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did 9 -11 affect our lives now I mean for me

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and my point how did it affect me is like shoot

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you you gotta have eyes all around you gotta

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have your you gotta watch your six you gotta

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watch your side you gotta watch everything that's

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coming at you you keep your head in the news

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constantly Because honestly to be to be honest

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fact and this is this is honest truth guys Growing

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up, you know as kids us as kids. We never saw

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this our parents kind of like shield us away

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from these Things that were happening in the

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world, you know, they want us to have the innocent

00:16:42.259 --> 00:16:44.980
Innocent life the childhood life to go off do

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your do your thing get in trouble over here?

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Do whatever get your scrape yourself get into

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a little mealy little fistfight outside with

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your friends You know, it was that but we never

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saw that there was bigger fish to fry that were

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frying out there that we never saw. I'm not sure

00:17:02.299 --> 00:17:04.660
that makes any sense. We didn't learn that until

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we got older. Our parents definitely wanted us

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to be as innocent as possible for as long as

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possible. Right, exactly. God bless them for

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that because they were right. because the stuff

00:17:18.660 --> 00:17:22.279
like that happens and you realize that you are

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not prepared for anything exactly You know this

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is this wasn't like a storm that you know you

00:17:27.579 --> 00:17:29.819
got advanced warning of that was coming and you

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could prepare like this is Out of the blue No

00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.279
one was expecting it. Nope Even even the the

00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.720
government officials who you know the reports

00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:42.059
later came out, right? They'd heard chatter of

00:17:42.059 --> 00:17:44.200
it, but they were just like no that can never

00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:46.119
happen, right? It's not gonna happen here. It'll

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never happen here. Yeah, we're the United States

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that just doesn't happen here and but There was

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it happened and yep Unfortunately, that's a lesson

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that they had to learn at the cost of a lot of

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lives, you know, unfortunately That's what happens

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sometimes. How did it affect your life now knowing?

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being not actually being there but seeing it

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and that in particular being in history books

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now where these young kids read about it you

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know that's in their textbooks or the papers

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or social media how it's always a remembrance

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of September 11th now from from that day here

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on out I mean yeah how's it changed you yeah

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it makes you it makes you cynical It makes you

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cynical because especially you know to hear well

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for me To hear that you know there were there

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was chalk Excuse me there was talk there was

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chatter that people have heard of right there

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was some mild investigation They would have found

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that you know there were agents here in the United

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States there were people who were actively working

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against the American people to kill American

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people. That our defenses are not as impenetrable

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as everyone was patting themselves on the back

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that they were. That the people who were responsible

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for our security messed up and all they could

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do was give us, we're sorry, we'll do better.

00:19:22.069 --> 00:19:24.490
Like, don't tell me that. Tell that to the family.

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That's a mulligan, guys. Sorry, we're getting

00:19:26.509 --> 00:19:29.750
a mulligan for this one. I'm sorry. Yeah, basically

00:19:29.750 --> 00:19:36.490
that's what it felt like. Did we feel safe after

00:19:36.490 --> 00:19:43.769
that? No. Like I said, at our age, we started...

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watching the news more, the media itself, we

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started watching it more, what's going on in

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our backyard, what's going on across seas. The

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landscape of everything that we did before changed.

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Exactly. You remember like before this, the TV

00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:05.799
channels would end their broadcast day at two

00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:08.000
o 'clock in the morning. Exactly. But when these

00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.819
things, when this happened and they went to a

00:20:10.819 --> 00:20:15.019
24 -hour news cycle, that stopped. That ended.

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People started investing in guns more. That's

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when the whole prepping field started up too.

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Are you ready for war when it comes? Right, exactly.

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We were we were very innocent country. We're

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a very stupid country before we never It's like

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I said, we never ever for a second believe something

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like that could happen that that happens over

00:20:43.369 --> 00:20:45.910
there, right? Exactly. Yeah that happens over

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there with you know, those people over there

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It's it'll never happen here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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putting they put on there on the question about

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the government and so they didn't mess up they

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just didn't Give it F. And you're right. I mean,

00:21:02.710 --> 00:21:05.970
like I said, that's your opinion, man. And you

00:21:05.970 --> 00:21:07.589
stay true to that opinion, and it's understandable.

00:21:08.309 --> 00:21:11.750
I understand what you're trying to say. But it

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affected a lot of lives, man. I know a lot of

00:21:14.789 --> 00:21:17.930
people, it was hard for them to go. There was

00:21:17.930 --> 00:21:21.170
some people that couldn't even go outside itself.

00:21:21.250 --> 00:21:23.250
Not only in New York, but all around the country.

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All around the country. It was hard for them

00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:28.619
to step out of their safe zone. And it was, it's

00:21:28.619 --> 00:21:31.500
weird that I, I don't mean to bring this up,

00:21:31.779 --> 00:21:35.400
but it was kind of the same situation with COVID.

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When COVID hit, there were still, and we finally

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got more or less cleared of it where it's more

00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.900
or less controlled. There were still people who

00:21:43.900 --> 00:21:47.099
were afraid to go out. They were still scared

00:21:47.099 --> 00:21:48.839
that something might happen. There are some people

00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:51.400
who are still afraid to go out without a mask.

00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.660
Exactly. And you know, and I mean, And there's

00:21:54.660 --> 00:21:58.319
I'm not going to say it's wrong. It's just it's

00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.359
mentally mental health. They they need to do

00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.380
it. Yeah. You know, it's a you can't you can't

00:22:04.380 --> 00:22:06.740
dismiss that. You can't you can't. Well, not

00:22:06.740 --> 00:22:08.660
dismiss it. What I'm saying is that you can't

00:22:08.660 --> 00:22:10.119
attack them on that. Well, why are you still

00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.279
wearing a mask? Take it off. COVID is over. No,

00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:14.880
that's their safety net. That's how they feel

00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:17.220
safe. Yeah. You know, as simple as that. So you

00:22:17.220 --> 00:22:20.380
shouldn't attack that. But no, I mean, honestly,

00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.660
I see people still wearing the mask today and

00:22:23.660 --> 00:22:26.039
like That's fine for them. That's what makes

00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.640
you feel comfortable interacting in public. Do

00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:35.440
it. It doesn't bother me at all. If you are triggered

00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:38.420
by that, well, that seems more like a you problem,

00:22:38.539 --> 00:22:41.319
a you issue. Right, exactly, exactly. Whether

00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:45.220
or not you believe COVID happened or not, or

00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:47.240
whatever your beliefs are about what happened

00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:51.220
during COVID, honestly, it was the best reaction

00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:54.200
that could have been. that could have happened

00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:58.099
with the information that we had. Right. Go ahead,

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I'm sorry. No, I was just going to say the fact

00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:04.400
that some people are still nervous about it,

00:23:04.740 --> 00:23:08.799
well, that may be something that maybe they need

00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.339
help with to understand better, or maybe that's

00:23:12.339 --> 00:23:14.799
just something that they prefer to handle on

00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.410
their own. whatever the reasons are, you know,

00:23:18.509 --> 00:23:21.390
people are getting very upset about what other

00:23:21.390 --> 00:23:25.410
people are doing for not very good reasons. Right.

00:23:25.569 --> 00:23:28.269
Right. And maybe, you know, it's time for people

00:23:28.269 --> 00:23:30.589
to just look inward on some of those things.

00:23:30.829 --> 00:23:32.589
Exactly. And as he's saying, unfortunately, we

00:23:32.589 --> 00:23:36.990
have many more people afraid to go out right

00:23:36.990 --> 00:23:41.789
now than them. It's true. It's true. But that

00:23:41.789 --> 00:23:43.849
goes on to the second, the third question for

00:23:43.849 --> 00:23:47.970
this in particular segment. This is what important

00:23:47.970 --> 00:23:51.829
lesson did we learn from 9 -11 about the community?

00:23:53.589 --> 00:23:59.630
How important community is during emergencies,

00:24:00.250 --> 00:24:05.470
in my opinion. Like I said, with the, what we

00:24:05.470 --> 00:24:07.970
thought was the Causeway attack, which just happened,

00:24:08.089 --> 00:24:12.049
it was just the Causeway accident. People like

00:24:12.049 --> 00:24:15.240
immediately like started you know, checking on

00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:16.819
each other's families, you know, making sure

00:24:16.819 --> 00:24:20.000
everyone was okay, making sure, you know, that,

00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.839
you know, oh my gosh, was your family? Yeah.

00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:26.000
Did you have a family member on the causeway?

00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:27.759
Did, you know, did you have someone in New York?

00:24:28.099 --> 00:24:31.759
Right. We started checking on people. Yeah. Whether

00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:33.759
or not we should have before that, you know,

00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:35.680
you can debate that all you want, but during

00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:39.480
that time, it was definitely like, are you okay?

00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:43.720
Like, what can we do? to help each other. It

00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.140
was more of a unity between communities now.

00:24:46.339 --> 00:24:49.420
They were making sure everybody was okay. Yes.

00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:54.400
That was the first time I had noticed a lot of

00:24:54.400 --> 00:25:00.240
cities, communities, states in the U .S. really,

00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.880
really healing each other. That's what I want

00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.779
to say. They're helping each other heal in that

00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:10.059
important situation that happened. Absolutely.

00:25:11.930 --> 00:25:15.970
The country rally around one another. Yes. And

00:25:15.970 --> 00:25:19.930
to switch gears here, it's kind of sad for something

00:25:19.930 --> 00:25:28.069
like that to happen. It tipped that to bring

00:25:28.069 --> 00:25:33.309
unity within a country. How far apart were we?

00:25:33.569 --> 00:25:36.430
Were we separate already that we just didn't

00:25:36.430 --> 00:25:41.640
realize? Or were we just... didn't care about

00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.319
our fellow neighbor anymore. We didn't care what

00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.680
was going on. What was more important was this

00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:48.920
is what we have here at home is what's more important.

00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:50.539
We can care less what's going on in the world.

00:25:51.460 --> 00:25:55.519
Well, that was just the general apathy of the

00:25:55.519 --> 00:26:00.380
times. The 90s were definitely like, well, all

00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:02.440
the stuff that's happening that's bad is happening

00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.940
over there, you know, with other people. Right,

00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.880
right. Until it affects us directly, you know,

00:26:09.019 --> 00:26:11.240
we're not gonna really care about it and then

00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.019
it happened to us directly and then, you know,

00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.519
it's like, oh my gosh, you know. It's like I

00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:20.779
said, we all rallied around one another, which,

00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.839
you know, it's unfortunate that it did take that

00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:27.420
for it to happen. But it did happen, and it is

00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:29.740
possible for us to do that, to rally around each

00:26:29.740 --> 00:26:33.579
other, to support one another. And it just makes

00:26:33.579 --> 00:26:39.380
the climate of today all the more sad to think

00:26:39.380 --> 00:26:44.140
about what is possible, and it's just not happening.

00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:48.259
Right. Yeah, I mean, like I said, for tragedy,

00:26:48.380 --> 00:26:50.779
having to bring a country closer together is

00:26:50.779 --> 00:26:55.839
kind of messed up. you know it's really messed

00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:58.799
up in a case of something bad has happened for

00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:01.299
something good to happen yeah you know the yin

00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:06.799
yang if i'm boldly able to say uh i'll never

00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.259
understand that i'll never understand that i

00:27:09.259 --> 00:27:12.660
i can't i can't it doesn't sink in you know you

00:27:12.660 --> 00:27:17.299
can't you can't ascribe you know any kind of

00:27:17.299 --> 00:27:20.039
any kind of sense to uh to human nature dude

00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:23.789
i mean it's just How can people be espousing?

00:27:24.369 --> 00:27:28.609
How can the most violent creature on the face

00:27:28.609 --> 00:27:33.289
of the planet constantly be espousing peace when

00:27:33.289 --> 00:27:36.470
we're so violent to one another? Right, exactly.

00:27:37.049 --> 00:27:41.430
And that's something that, I mean, in all thoughts

00:27:41.430 --> 00:27:46.910
for all the victims of 9 -11, all the people

00:27:46.910 --> 00:27:48.710
that went in, the people that are running out,

00:27:48.750 --> 00:27:50.349
and the others that were running in to go help,

00:27:50.410 --> 00:27:54.859
I mean... they'll never be forgotten. This day

00:27:54.859 --> 00:27:58.700
of September 11th will be in our minds to the

00:27:58.700 --> 00:28:03.599
end of time. I mean, the last time we had something

00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.079
horrible like that was, I believe it was Civil

00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:09.160
War, it was brother versus brother, where they

00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.319
were killing each other, left and right, and

00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.180
the most horrific thing ever done on American

00:28:14.180 --> 00:28:18.519
soil. And then now this itself, I mean, not to

00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:20.650
take... Not to go too far back. We did have Pearl

00:28:20.650 --> 00:28:22.829
Harbor now. Right. They came and they bombed

00:28:22.829 --> 00:28:26.250
the living heck out of us. And that's when the

00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:28.470
general said you woke a sleepy giant. And we

00:28:28.470 --> 00:28:32.390
just went back and did our thing, which I would

00:28:32.390 --> 00:28:35.910
bring up on another podcast. There was this anime

00:28:35.910 --> 00:28:38.750
that my wife and I sat down and watched too.

00:28:38.910 --> 00:28:42.430
Bro, it's maybe the next time you and I have

00:28:42.430 --> 00:28:45.289
a sit down powwow, we'll go into that. We'll

00:28:45.289 --> 00:28:48.910
go into that. And it's a It's all I'll even get

00:28:48.910 --> 00:28:51.430
you the name of the of the anime so you can check

00:28:51.430 --> 00:28:53.349
it out yourself and tell me what you Think and

00:28:53.349 --> 00:28:56.410
it gives you a whole different aspect on that

00:28:56.410 --> 00:29:00.390
in particular war Tell me quick, dude, cuz enemy

00:29:00.390 --> 00:29:03.130
is a enemy's going I know or do I really want

00:29:03.130 --> 00:29:06.990
to God that we'll talk about that? I need to

00:29:06.990 --> 00:29:11.430
get it quick. Yeah, but anyways guys, but uh

00:29:11.450 --> 00:29:14.150
Before we go into the commercial to our sponsors

00:29:14.150 --> 00:29:18.549
here We want to say from chewing a podcast to

00:29:18.549 --> 00:29:20.789
all the families that were affected in New York

00:29:20.789 --> 00:29:22.789
If you are watching you're listening our heart

00:29:22.789 --> 00:29:28.210
goes out to you until the end of time to be part

00:29:28.210 --> 00:29:35.049
of something Like that It's it's horrible. I

00:29:35.049 --> 00:29:36.650
mean there's among other things that we'll be

00:29:36.650 --> 00:29:40.269
talking about next or even even horrible to know

00:29:40.269 --> 00:29:44.160
but uh You know, we're talking to the second

00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.059
half of this podcast, but our hearts do go out

00:29:47.059 --> 00:29:49.559
to all the families in New York City that were

00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.680
affected by this event in September 11th. I mean,

00:29:54.339 --> 00:29:57.180
all we can do is just move forward, move forward

00:29:57.180 --> 00:30:00.920
and heal. That's basically all I have to say.

00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:03.940
Anything, any last words for you? Well, just,

00:30:03.940 --> 00:30:07.799
you know, continue to all the families, to everyone

00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:12.740
that's been affected by you. are not alone. If

00:30:12.740 --> 00:30:16.519
you need help, call a friend, call a family member.

00:30:17.579 --> 00:30:20.579
There are phone lines that you can call for help.

00:30:21.660 --> 00:30:25.200
Because it may have been 24 years ago, but I

00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.059
know for a lot of people it still feels like

00:30:27.059 --> 00:30:31.759
yesterday. And all the families of the people

00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:36.000
that passed away are much continued love to you.

00:30:37.230 --> 00:30:40.029
You know, just all I can tell you is, you know,

00:30:40.029 --> 00:30:43.089
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doing this or not? Jesus, but anyways guys going

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back to this episode of the next on the agenda

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guys This wasn't really talked too much about

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in the news Because there was other circumstances

00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:20.500
happening in Utah at the moment, but I want to

00:37:20.500 --> 00:37:26.139
go through this first This was happening in in

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Colorado. This is the next question here on tree

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I'm not sure if anybody even heard about this

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or it was announced, but it was it wasn't a news

00:37:32.739 --> 00:37:35.960
just for a little bit What about the Colorado

00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.900
attack in the school? I mean I'm going to be

00:37:38.900 --> 00:37:40.920
honest with you, man. I really don't know what

00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:44.079
happened. I don't know the inside. I'm not sure

00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.059
you got any info on that or you read up on that.

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Well, apparently there was yet another school

00:37:52.059 --> 00:37:58.340
shooting in a school in Colorado. A student,

00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:03.360
of course, went to school and with a revolver

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began attacking other students. Two two of the

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students were injured They're they are still

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in the hospital The the suspects apparently after

00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:28.179
After firing on the students Turned the weapon

00:38:28.179 --> 00:38:32.840
on himself and and and died from his from his

00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.219
wounds self -indicted wounds. Yeah Wow and At

00:38:37.219 --> 00:38:40.860
last report, apparently, the two students are

00:38:40.860 --> 00:38:43.780
still in the hospital in critical condition.

00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.340
The ones that were shot? Yeah, the two. Okay,

00:38:47.340 --> 00:38:48.840
the two were shot. Okay, okay, I got you, I got

00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:57.280
you. Whenever these events happened at school,

00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.480
there was a lot of panic. There was a lot of

00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.780
running around of the students, you know. Right.

00:39:02.110 --> 00:39:05.429
trying to get to safety, so there were minor

00:39:05.429 --> 00:39:08.309
injuries, you know, cuts and bruises and things,

00:39:09.309 --> 00:39:13.170
but luckily there were no other gunshot victims.

00:39:15.389 --> 00:39:20.289
The police arrived within two minutes of it beginning

00:39:20.289 --> 00:39:25.500
and sealed off the campus. and I think that's

00:39:25.500 --> 00:39:28.880
why they were able to confront the shooter so

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.820
quickly. And that's when he turned the weapon

00:39:32.820 --> 00:39:39.500
on himself. The sheriff stated on the last report

00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:42.679
that I saw that the investigation was still very

00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:47.849
preliminary and they didn't know why the... Why

00:39:47.849 --> 00:39:51.730
the suspect did what he did? What was the reason?

00:39:51.869 --> 00:39:54.809
What was the reason for the attack? Right. The

00:39:54.809 --> 00:39:57.929
saddest thing he said was that he wasn't even

00:39:57.929 --> 00:40:02.590
sure if the shooter was old enough to drive.

00:40:03.170 --> 00:40:07.010
Oh wow. It's something that the media did not

00:40:07.010 --> 00:40:10.409
bring up into the issue. Unfortunately it got

00:40:10.409 --> 00:40:12.369
overshadowed pretty quickly by another event

00:40:12.369 --> 00:40:17.829
that happened the same week. Yeah, just recently.

00:40:18.050 --> 00:40:20.110
I have, as you say, I believe it was three students

00:40:20.110 --> 00:40:23.230
that were injured. That's what Hasidu's saying.

00:40:23.829 --> 00:40:27.349
The third student that was injured, wasn't shot,

00:40:27.670 --> 00:40:31.170
was injured, getting away from the shooting scene.

00:40:31.269 --> 00:40:34.389
Okay. You know, apparently he jumped a fence,

00:40:34.389 --> 00:40:37.289
you know, trying to get away, running to another

00:40:37.289 --> 00:40:41.829
elementary school. Holy shit. But... That's...

00:40:41.829 --> 00:40:48.030
I don't get that, man. He'll live. Don't I don't

00:40:48.030 --> 00:40:51.030
hate How can I put I want to put dead air out

00:40:51.030 --> 00:40:53.829
there for you, but uh, I mean ask you a quick

00:40:53.829 --> 00:40:56.349
question and ask you a quick question Are you

00:40:56.349 --> 00:41:01.309
are you a person who's for guns? It's just a

00:41:01.309 --> 00:41:03.929
simple question. Okay. I am in the same boat

00:41:03.929 --> 00:41:07.989
with you. I am four guns I am I am now the reason

00:41:07.989 --> 00:41:12.409
why I say I am is first of all for hunting purposes

00:41:12.860 --> 00:41:16.500
Uh go out, you know kill food bring it home eat

00:41:16.500 --> 00:41:20.659
it and so guns are put away now I see a lot of

00:41:20.659 --> 00:41:24.280
people living in texas being being from texas

00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:28.440
state of texas where you have the right to carry

00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:32.699
carry conceal to open carry open carry, uh, I

00:41:32.699 --> 00:41:37.800
don't get it I don't get it why You would have

00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.309
to Carry I don't get it why you have to go to

00:41:42.309 --> 00:41:47.769
these sports Gun shows and buy these high artillery

00:41:47.769 --> 00:41:54.349
guns, you know it When are you gonna go out and

00:41:54.349 --> 00:42:00.010
and kill a Bison I'm just saying I'm just kidding

00:42:00.010 --> 00:42:07.030
animal here a bison with a freaking a five I

00:42:07.030 --> 00:42:13.989
agree with that sentiment. I am for guns for

00:42:13.989 --> 00:42:17.889
responsible people, for responsible home protection,

00:42:18.150 --> 00:42:19.590
self -protection. That's the next step I was

00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:23.210
going to tell you. That is what I believe. I

00:42:23.210 --> 00:42:26.690
feel guns are for responsible home protection.

00:42:26.690 --> 00:42:29.309
Exactly. People that use them to go hunting.

00:42:30.460 --> 00:42:33.960
for food, for survival, just for recreation,

00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:38.619
fine too. Those people are some of the most responsible

00:42:38.619 --> 00:42:41.679
people I've ever seen because they understand

00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.739
the power of a weapon. Now to your statement

00:42:45.739 --> 00:42:51.300
of why someone would want to buy a high caliber

00:42:51.300 --> 00:42:56.519
military grade weaponry. i don't get it i can

00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.880
only in my personal opinion say that it is only

00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:04.920
because to stroke some part of your ego or scratch

00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:09.260
some itch thank you that you are you know some

00:43:09.260 --> 00:43:12.579
paramilitary hero right which you probably which

00:43:12.579 --> 00:43:14.840
you probably weren't even in the damn military

00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:16.639
decay you were never in the military you were

00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.280
never going to be in the military right you have

00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.239
no you you're not going to be the savior who

00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:26.619
saves the country, you're not Rambo, you're not

00:43:26.619 --> 00:43:31.440
John Wick, you never will be. If it's just some

00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.579
kind of power that you need to scratch, do it

00:43:36.579 --> 00:43:40.320
responsibly. I mean, that's fine. I am all for

00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.340
it. If you can handle this responsibly, in a

00:43:44.340 --> 00:43:50.579
responsible manner, go for it. Go for it. But

00:43:50.579 --> 00:43:53.539
if you just want to you know, oh, well, I'm a

00:43:53.539 --> 00:43:56.800
badass. Well, you know, right you right exactly

00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:01.239
You do you do not deserve that right in my opinion?

00:44:01.539 --> 00:44:04.099
Yeah, I hear you in my for me I mean I can be

00:44:04.099 --> 00:44:06.099
truthful about it I'm this is how I feel about

00:44:06.099 --> 00:44:08.719
it and like I say my opinion as far as like we're

00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:10.420
talking about here I think that that's how a

00:44:10.420 --> 00:44:14.960
lot of people feel. Yes I mean, I don't I I don't

00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.760
see Myself if I go on get a gun Which, by the

00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.420
way, I don't own one. I don't think I need one.

00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.139
I don't need one. I don't hunt. I don't need

00:44:25.139 --> 00:44:27.739
home protection or anything like that. I have

00:44:27.739 --> 00:44:31.599
what I have to protect my family at home, what's

00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.340
needed. Your wife has lethal killing skills.

00:44:34.659 --> 00:44:42.800
Oh, she's lethal, man. She's lethal. You don't

00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:47.260
mess with Mama Bear. You don't mess with Mrs.

00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:51.239
Iwako, but uh, there you go. That is my lethal

00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:55.360
weapon. Uh, no, but in all seriousness, I don't,

00:44:55.420 --> 00:44:57.320
like I said, I don't own a weapon or anything,

00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:03.059
a gun itself. I don't see the necessity for it.

00:45:03.139 --> 00:45:06.239
But now with times that are coming around and

00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.400
things that are happening in our country, it

00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:15.079
kind of pushes the non, the non gun owners. To

00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.559
go that direction now. Well, let me let me put

00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:22.519
it to you dude. Let me put it to you You've seen

00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:26.460
how the valley has changed. Yes since you were

00:45:26.460 --> 00:45:30.340
a kid Yes, you know, would you say it is as safe

00:45:30.340 --> 00:45:32.400
as it was when you were a kid? No, of course

00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:35.559
not it isn't how many how many times how many

00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.940
people who are listening to our podcast can say

00:45:38.940 --> 00:45:41.420
that you something has happened in your neighborhood

00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:44.260
you call the police they show up and they're

00:45:44.260 --> 00:45:47.139
like well you know just give you the old shrug

00:45:47.139 --> 00:45:49.340
well you're you're still alive you know where's

00:45:49.340 --> 00:45:51.179
where's your where are your cuts where are your

00:45:51.179 --> 00:45:52.920
bullet wounds you know where exactly where's

00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.380
the dead body you know there isn't well you know

00:45:55.380 --> 00:45:58.719
i'm leaving right so you know with that sentiment

00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:04.519
in mind it's hard not to go that route to say

00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:09.059
like, well, if I'm on my own and my neighbor

00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:14.179
has an AK -47, well, I'm gonna get an AK -48

00:46:14.179 --> 00:46:20.320
or an AK -100 or whatever. I mean, how can you

00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:26.599
not? Because it just feels less, when you feel

00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.989
less safe and you don't know what to do, you're

00:46:29.989 --> 00:46:32.889
more likely to go to that extreme. Right. And

00:46:32.889 --> 00:46:35.170
I got Jacinto saying responsibly, question mark,

00:46:35.369 --> 00:46:37.730
go outside during the freaking New Year's in

00:46:37.730 --> 00:46:41.389
Westco, behind Northwest Gate, where the Dollar

00:46:41.389 --> 00:46:44.170
General is, and it sounds like damn well a war

00:46:44.170 --> 00:46:48.110
zone. Well, Jacinto, let's just call those people

00:46:48.110 --> 00:46:51.070
irresponsible people. No shit, man, no shit.

00:46:51.070 --> 00:46:54.449
Okay, I'm not saying that those people are the

00:46:54.449 --> 00:46:57.260
responsible people. I was... I was referring

00:46:57.260 --> 00:47:00.119
to right all right those are definitely the people

00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:04.119
who should not have a gun but because you know

00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.260
oh second amendment and this and that well you

00:47:06.260 --> 00:47:09.340
know they have a gun yeah you know for whatever

00:47:09.340 --> 00:47:13.860
whatever the reason is that they have a weapon

00:47:13.860 --> 00:47:17.539
right you know to me in my personal opinion maybe

00:47:17.539 --> 00:47:20.400
they don't deserve to have that weapon you know

00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.099
that that's that's what that's that's what I'm

00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:28.599
saying I made the choice early my freshman year

00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:34.079
going to school about not owning a gun knowing

00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.760
the fact at the time and in the early 90s we

00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.059
had the drive -by shootings you know all these

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:44.960
all these the drive -by shootings were so common

00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:48.480
the gun related stuff it was it was i'm not saying

00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.739
it's not huge now it still is but there's like

00:47:51.739 --> 00:47:54.059
it was like kind of it was always there but we

00:47:54.059 --> 00:47:56.280
started seeing it more in our neighborhoods it

00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:59.360
was being romanticized for some damn reason right

00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.980
exactly it was in music it was in music videos

00:48:01.980 --> 00:48:05.619
it was on tv shows thank you mtv yeah thanks

00:48:05.619 --> 00:48:13.519
a lot no but my decision to not buy a gun or

00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.019
to be associated with a gun at that time was

00:48:17.019 --> 00:48:20.719
uh Really point -blank because right to the point

00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:25.940
because I lost a friend In school who brought

00:48:25.940 --> 00:48:29.539
a revolver to school and showed it off with hollow

00:48:29.539 --> 00:48:32.840
point bullets and he was showing it off he was

00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.559
spinning the revolver and I guess he thought

00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.940
he had taken all everything out of the chamber

00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:42.340
and when he spun it it Locked and he put under

00:48:42.340 --> 00:48:45.559
his chin and he was like showing off and he it's

00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.360
a hair trigger boom straight to the bottom of

00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:51.400
the bottom of the neck out to the back of a skull

00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:54.579
uh may he rest in peace i'm not even going to

00:48:54.579 --> 00:49:00.500
mention his name but uh seeing that not seeing

00:49:00.500 --> 00:49:05.699
it but hearing that happening in my school itself

00:49:05.699 --> 00:49:08.579
which never happened before there was rumors

00:49:08.579 --> 00:49:10.760
oh man they're going to come true never happened

00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.159
though yeah but to be in that situation to hear

00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.300
that only two rooms away from where I was in

00:49:20.300 --> 00:49:23.920
class. There was a lockdown. Ambulance came in,

00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:25.960
tried to save him. They couldn't save him. There

00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:29.639
was no way he was gone. For him to bring that

00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:36.199
to school was just nuts. Nuts. For those of you

00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.179
in the audience who don't know, if it happens

00:49:38.179 --> 00:49:43.699
here in the Valley, it is an event. Yeah. It

00:49:43.699 --> 00:49:48.199
is an event. I don't want to sound like I'm making

00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.539
fun of anything, but the valley is where events

00:49:51.539 --> 00:49:55.159
come to die sometimes. Just nothing happens here

00:49:55.159 --> 00:50:00.099
for so long. And then when something like this

00:50:00.099 --> 00:50:03.400
does happen, it is an event that just rocks a

00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.099
lot of people's worlds. It does. It does. Which

00:50:06.099 --> 00:50:08.820
goes into the next question. Why didn't the media

00:50:08.820 --> 00:50:12.550
acknowledge what happened out in Colorado? And

00:50:12.550 --> 00:50:14.190
we know the answer that we're gonna go we're

00:50:14.190 --> 00:50:15.769
gonna jump straight to that in a couple of a

00:50:15.769 --> 00:50:17.710
couple of minutes right now we're be going straight

00:50:17.710 --> 00:50:25.070
to the next subject, but uh it's These got these

00:50:25.070 --> 00:50:27.289
school shootings and you know, I talked I talked

00:50:27.289 --> 00:50:29.610
to row beefy boy row a lot in the mornings and

00:50:29.610 --> 00:50:34.690
we talk about stuff like this it's Becoming and

00:50:34.690 --> 00:50:36.809
it's sad to say and if you guys are watching

00:50:36.809 --> 00:50:41.010
you agree or disagree with me It's starting to

00:50:41.010 --> 00:50:46.099
be Part of the norm now Of these shootings. It's

00:50:46.099 --> 00:50:49.179
like there's they there's nothing being done

00:50:49.179 --> 00:50:55.940
No, we had a poor Poor visual of a police department

00:50:55.940 --> 00:51:00.400
and I'm gonna bring this up who loved it exactly

00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:06.440
It they were these were men that were had bulletproof

00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:10.329
vests their job is to serve and protect and yet

00:51:10.329 --> 00:51:13.090
didn't fall through for these kids. Absolutely

00:51:13.090 --> 00:51:17.070
not. And that pissed the hell out of me. You

00:51:17.070 --> 00:51:19.590
had some of these on camera that were on their

00:51:19.590 --> 00:51:22.769
phones. That pissed me off too. I don't even

00:51:22.769 --> 00:51:27.130
have kids, but to see that. Mm -hmm. I mean,

00:51:27.269 --> 00:51:31.710
just the... If I hear a kid is in trouble, you

00:51:31.710 --> 00:51:34.070
know, me, I don't even have kids, I'm going in

00:51:34.070 --> 00:51:36.309
there. Right. I'm going in there. I don't care.

00:51:36.329 --> 00:51:39.190
If I get shot, you know... I get shot but I'm

00:51:39.190 --> 00:51:41.750
gonna say I'm gonna try. Right, exactly. I'm

00:51:41.750 --> 00:51:43.289
gonna try to save the kids. And especially if

00:51:43.289 --> 00:51:45.389
you're covered, you have a vest. You have a vest,

00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:47.909
you are highly trained, you have a weapon. You

00:51:47.909 --> 00:51:49.809
have an artillery weapon just like what this

00:51:49.809 --> 00:51:52.849
kid has. Yes, there are more of you. Now, I don't

00:51:52.849 --> 00:51:54.710
know where there was attention that will recharge,

00:51:54.969 --> 00:51:57.130
he might shoot more. He's already shooting. He's

00:51:57.130 --> 00:51:59.269
already shooting them. They're already dying.

00:51:59.909 --> 00:52:02.989
You need to go in there and stop it. Yes. It

00:52:02.989 --> 00:52:06.880
just boggles my mind that... to see that all

00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.340
this happens oh we didn't we didn't have someone

00:52:09.340 --> 00:52:13.019
in you know to sign the paperwork fuck you yeah

00:52:13.019 --> 00:52:16.599
exactly exactly i don't i don't understand it

00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:18.519
doesn't it doesn't these are stuff that the way

00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:22.179
it says why did the media uh you know talk about

00:52:22.179 --> 00:52:24.440
what happened there in colorado you know there's

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.000
so much now that a lot of schools like to cover

00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:31.179
up stuff say well we can't talk about this you

00:52:31.179 --> 00:52:32.800
know we got to make sure that the families that

00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:34.119
have the kids here need to know that they're

00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.719
safe you know we can't discuss what happened

00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.599
here the media can only do so much because everybody

00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:44.760
everybody's a reporter now you have a phone you're

00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.719
a reporter you know you're you're videotaping

00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:49.719
everything that's going on in your neck of the

00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:54.300
woods now more to the point school officials

00:52:54.300 --> 00:53:02.079
aren't concerned about the the children children

00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:04.480
yeah I get what you're saying. Their response

00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:08.039
was more like a politician, well, you know, we

00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:11.420
need to, you know, we're, you know, we're worried

00:53:11.420 --> 00:53:14.820
about the big picture. Yeah. You know, that's

00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:17.059
a politician's response, what they said, you

00:53:17.059 --> 00:53:20.280
know, that the parents need to know that children

00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:22.820
are safe. No, they're not. Yeah. This proves

00:53:22.820 --> 00:53:26.920
it. Yeah. You know, I mean, there was an excellent

00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:30.260
police response. Thankfully, a lot of more people

00:53:30.260 --> 00:53:33.000
didn't get killed. But obviously something is

00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:36.039
going on in the school where this this child

00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:42.780
felt neglected and ignored enough to that. He

00:53:42.780 --> 00:53:46.599
needed to take a weapon and you know unleashes

00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:52.059
his fury on on other people. Like so many other

00:53:52.059 --> 00:53:56.400
times before, right? It and it more golden to

00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:58.780
the point of what you said you were talking to

00:53:58.780 --> 00:54:05.099
with the beefy boy wrote. It's become so common

00:54:05.099 --> 00:54:08.019
that it's more like you hear in the news about

00:54:08.019 --> 00:54:11.639
a road rage incident. Yeah. It's just one of

00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:13.519
those things that just has to happen for some

00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:15.900
reason. Exactly. Exactly. Which is, you know,

00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:18.639
it's just the saddest thing once you realize,

00:54:18.659 --> 00:54:21.599
you know, that that's where it has gone to. Because

00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:23.719
no one is willing to say, like, well, maybe,

00:54:24.059 --> 00:54:26.639
you know, we need to address something in ourselves.

00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:30.739
But that can't be because you know that would

00:54:30.739 --> 00:54:32.780
mean that the system is flawed and we're not

00:54:32.780 --> 00:54:35.079
willing to respond. Yeah, we're not really willing

00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:39.219
to To acknowledge that yeah, that's true and

00:54:39.219 --> 00:54:41.059
as he was saying the governor doesn't give up

00:54:41.059 --> 00:54:44.480
F Yeah, I guess that's why they want us They

00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.059
want make sure that kids don't have don't take

00:54:47.059 --> 00:54:49.940
their phones to school now because they can record

00:54:49.940 --> 00:54:53.369
everything Yeah, that's a that's a that's another

00:54:53.369 --> 00:54:56.070
thing that's you know kids recording everything

00:54:56.070 --> 00:54:58.130
that that's a separate thing because you know

00:54:58.130 --> 00:54:59.929
You have incidents with teachers and things like

00:54:59.929 --> 00:55:02.829
right, right? That's a separate and I told and

00:55:02.829 --> 00:55:04.110
I know where you're going with that. Yeah, I

00:55:04.110 --> 00:55:07.050
don't understand that Yeah, but that that's when

00:55:07.050 --> 00:55:09.750
we go into the final questions here and these

00:55:09.750 --> 00:55:12.849
are the ones they're gonna be really The really

00:55:12.849 --> 00:55:19.440
touchy ones guys Yesterday at 12 p .m I believe

00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:22.199
it was central time here or 12 p .m. over in

00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.579
the In the west. Well, let's just say it was

00:55:25.579 --> 00:55:27.300
central time here. Yeah, so 12 o 'clock here

00:55:27.300 --> 00:55:32.579
central time I'm not even gonna mention his name

00:55:32.579 --> 00:55:35.420
I don't want to be held accountable for that

00:55:35.420 --> 00:55:36.519
or anything like that and the stuff that we're

00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:39.800
gonna say So we're just gonna use Chuck If you

00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:41.519
know what I'm talking about, you know who I'm

00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:43.599
talking about. That's that's basically okay Chuck

00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:49.980
K. Yeah, Chuck K. We'll call him Chuck K He was

00:55:49.980 --> 00:55:56.960
in an event in the University of Utah. This event

00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.139
that was going on, that was just starting out.

00:55:59.219 --> 00:56:01.739
This is the first one that he was going to do

00:56:01.739 --> 00:56:05.539
in Utah. Mind you, the whitest state in the United

00:56:05.539 --> 00:56:10.940
States. Indeed. You know, goes out there. We

00:56:10.940 --> 00:56:15.019
love white people, by the way. That racist tirade

00:56:15.019 --> 00:56:19.489
by Wu aside. Yeah. We love us our weighties.

00:56:20.690 --> 00:56:23.650
We love you. You're the best. I'm trying to get

00:56:23.650 --> 00:56:29.010
serious here. Led to the event to where Chuck

00:56:29.010 --> 00:56:37.090
K was shot during the event. What event led to

00:56:37.090 --> 00:56:40.869
Chuck being shot? Now I know I have read reports

00:56:40.869 --> 00:56:48.019
where I know for a fact I know for a fact that

00:56:48.019 --> 00:56:52.539
the university did a, I believe it was a list

00:56:52.539 --> 00:56:56.019
or some signatures to keep this guy out of the

00:56:56.019 --> 00:57:00.239
university. They didn't want him there. Turned

00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.420
it in. The university didn't give a shit. Said

00:57:04.420 --> 00:57:06.840
we're bringing him. Why? Bringing students, bringing

00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:13.800
money. That was my point to it, what I saw. He

00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:17.119
starts talking. Talking about they're gonna be

00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:19.239
there for a couple of hours the new tour that

00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:24.739
he's doing and The first question that's tossed

00:57:24.739 --> 00:57:27.360
out to him not not it was it was not the first

00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.659
it was it was it was a one from he had already

00:57:30.659 --> 00:57:35.320
been there for Maybe about half an hour. Okay

00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.280
half an hour and someone approached the microphone,

00:57:38.300 --> 00:57:42.039
which is part of the part of what he does there.

00:57:42.179 --> 00:57:43.539
You know, he has a microphone where people can

00:57:43.539 --> 00:57:46.199
approach and ask him questions, you know, loaded

00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:48.880
questions about politics and stuff like that.

00:57:49.619 --> 00:57:52.320
And that's what happened. Someone approached

00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.199
the microphone and asked him a question about

00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:57.400
gun violence. Right, right. And I got the Mrs.

00:57:57.539 --> 00:57:59.539
Sears says, I don't think whether you're for

00:57:59.539 --> 00:58:02.460
or against, I believe there should be more policy

00:58:02.460 --> 00:58:05.079
laws to reduce gun deaths. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:05.179 --> 00:58:08.750
You're right. Absolutely. You're right. So do

00:58:08.750 --> 00:58:12.550
something. Yeah, exactly. So well being that

00:58:12.550 --> 00:58:19.750
talking about that question being asked He answers

00:58:19.750 --> 00:58:22.650
the question the first time puts the mic down

00:58:22.650 --> 00:58:25.550
he begins answering answering the question right

00:58:25.550 --> 00:58:34.170
and Halfway through he is he is shot shot Something

00:58:34.650 --> 00:58:38.710
Then I don't want to compare it to that, but

00:58:38.710 --> 00:58:43.369
the tragedy itself takes me back. I wasn't around

00:58:43.369 --> 00:58:53.530
when it happened, but video of JFK kind of getting...

00:58:53.530 --> 00:58:56.110
What's the word? It gives like the same vibe

00:58:56.110 --> 00:58:58.610
because it's a political... Yes, it gives it

00:58:58.610 --> 00:59:08.000
a political view of it. It's oh man it When I

00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:11.579
saw the video bro, yeah When I saw this video

00:59:11.579 --> 00:59:14.179
because it was flashed everywhere from tik -tok

00:59:14.179 --> 00:59:17.400
to Instagram to Facebook Yeah, they were X especially

00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.619
X some disgusting people were posting it on their

00:59:20.619 --> 00:59:23.320
time line is you know and celebrating it exactly

00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:34.710
and It for me when I saw it I Was like Wow Yeah,

00:59:34.710 --> 00:59:40.210
what happened? Yeah, I I mean the guys podcast

00:59:40.210 --> 00:59:45.869
is a very Hardcore and views a lot of people

00:59:45.869 --> 00:59:47.929
disagree with there are some people that do agree

00:59:47.929 --> 00:59:55.349
with it Some far right some far left and I've

00:59:55.349 --> 00:59:57.889
heard because they've been posting this podcast

00:59:57.889 --> 01:00:00.619
left and right and they always have a piece of

01:00:00.619 --> 01:00:04.139
it on on tiktok where he's debating with somebody

01:00:04.139 --> 01:00:06.860
else and you know we're listening to it and then

01:00:06.860 --> 01:00:09.239
the more and more i see i hear where he gets

01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:11.420
caught up and he changes the subject on the guy

01:00:11.420 --> 01:00:13.380
and he comes back to the subject into it it's

01:00:13.380 --> 01:00:15.599
like uh it's like an in -and -out thing you know

01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:16.800
okay you got me this but i'm getting you with

01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:17.980
this and you get into that i'll get you with

01:00:17.980 --> 01:00:24.380
this it's like and i was telling my wife i go

01:00:24.380 --> 01:00:28.820
this event happening And a lot of people are

01:00:28.820 --> 01:00:31.039
going to say no, it's not true. Some are going

01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:32.639
to say yeah, you hit it on the back of the nose.

01:00:33.579 --> 01:00:39.860
When you put a dog to a corner, and you're constantly

01:00:39.860 --> 01:00:43.800
taunting it, and taunting it, and taunting it,

01:00:43.860 --> 01:00:45.960
and taunting it for the last couple of years,

01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.519
the dog's going to bite back. And it bit back.

01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:57.929
And they're in shock that it happened. You know

01:00:57.929 --> 01:01:00.130
at first that's the way I felt about it. I mean

01:01:00.130 --> 01:01:03.389
goes it well. It was about to happen but at the

01:01:03.389 --> 01:01:07.789
same time I Don't want to use the word. Well.

01:01:07.789 --> 01:01:12.469
I'll use it. I can use it. I The empathy on is

01:01:12.469 --> 01:01:17.550
like okay this guy He was taken away from this

01:01:17.550 --> 01:01:23.150
world To me the wrong way One and then row and

01:01:23.150 --> 01:01:25.329
I can agree on this where we would have loved

01:01:25.329 --> 01:01:30.329
to see him Carry on and when all this mess is

01:01:30.329 --> 01:01:33.250
finally put to rest see him fall. That was it.

01:01:33.250 --> 01:01:36.369
That would have been the best way. Yeah unfortunately

01:01:36.369 --> 01:01:40.309
Someone took it into their own hands and ended

01:01:40.309 --> 01:01:45.010
it right there and then I've been seeing videos

01:01:45.010 --> 01:01:48.670
where they're celebrating on tik -tok. I've seen

01:01:48.670 --> 01:01:54.849
videos where they are singing in front of the

01:01:54.849 --> 01:02:02.409
hospital When is going too far going too far?

01:02:02.710 --> 01:02:08.949
When is it? You know, okay? It's enough What

01:02:08.949 --> 01:02:11.789
are your thoughts man when you saw this going

01:02:11.789 --> 01:02:14.050
down? When you saw the because I know we didn't

01:02:14.050 --> 01:02:15.889
see it live because they don't broadcast that

01:02:15.889 --> 01:02:18.809
stuff live But to see it go down on video when

01:02:18.809 --> 01:02:21.449
you see for the first time because I know I shot

01:02:21.449 --> 01:02:24.050
it to you first I go dude. Did you see this?

01:02:24.510 --> 01:02:30.670
You know, this is a guy who has a podcast Debates

01:02:30.670 --> 01:02:32.309
with a lot of people. I used to go to colleges

01:02:32.309 --> 01:02:35.469
and debate with a lot of youngsters on what's

01:02:35.469 --> 01:02:40.630
going on, what they believe is wrong. What was

01:02:40.630 --> 01:02:44.250
your thoughts when you saw that video? Well,

01:02:44.550 --> 01:02:51.090
first of all, let me just say I had never followed

01:02:51.090 --> 01:02:57.699
Chuck Kay. I had heard about him. I was never

01:02:57.699 --> 01:03:01.539
really interested in hearing what he talked about.

01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:07.880
He was staunchly conservative. He had conservative

01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:11.199
values. Fine, whatever. He can have his opinion.

01:03:14.780 --> 01:03:18.019
I was always on the periphery hearing stuff about

01:03:18.019 --> 01:03:20.800
him. If he said this or he said that. Again,

01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.300
I never had any interest in it. But I was aware

01:03:25.300 --> 01:03:30.960
of who he was, that this was what he did, the

01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.840
format of his show. He went to different college

01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:37.639
campuses and he talked to people who were on

01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:43.179
the other side of his political views. And he

01:03:43.179 --> 01:03:46.400
debated them and he enjoyed the debate and he

01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:50.579
enjoyed throwing their logic or lack of logic

01:03:50.579 --> 01:03:54.500
back at them. to, you know, have them perhaps

01:03:54.500 --> 01:03:58.639
see that maybe they're not, you know, fighting

01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:00.719
for what they think that they're fighting for.

01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:02.940
Right. Right. Right. I hear what you're saying.

01:04:03.900 --> 01:04:08.239
So, you know, and, you know, I like it's like

01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:10.320
I said, you know, he was a staunch conservative

01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:12.519
and he believed in he had conservative beliefs,

01:04:12.980 --> 01:04:15.000
like so many other people have, you know, that

01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.440
everybody has their different opinions about.

01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:19.480
Absolutely. Absolutely. I got you. Absolutely.

01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:25.400
So. And I understood his popularity, too, because

01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.079
there has been growing conservative sentiments

01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:32.480
across the country. It's why we have the president

01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:37.019
that we have right now. And I can certainly understand

01:04:37.019 --> 01:04:41.860
some of those conservative views. I consider

01:04:41.860 --> 01:04:44.960
myself a moderate person. I'm in the middle.

01:04:47.300 --> 01:04:50.760
Now, having said that, I realize that the how

01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:54.000
popular this guy was with certain communities

01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:59.460
and that, yes, this does happen whenever he goes

01:04:59.460 --> 01:05:05.360
to a university event. That there are small groups

01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.139
of people who get signatures together to get

01:05:08.139 --> 01:05:12.679
him to not arrive or to show up on campus, but

01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.010
the university decides that. you know, know it's

01:05:16.010 --> 01:05:19.630
good for business. Exactly. Exactly. To have

01:05:19.630 --> 01:05:22.269
someone like him on campus, you know, for a day

01:05:22.269 --> 01:05:24.510
to do his thing and then, you know, he'll leave

01:05:24.510 --> 01:05:28.329
and, you know, things can return to normal. Right.

01:05:29.869 --> 01:05:33.849
Now, this event was going to be just another

01:05:33.849 --> 01:05:37.329
one of those events that had been planned out.

01:05:37.349 --> 01:05:39.289
He had been invited by the university. He was

01:05:39.289 --> 01:05:41.849
going to do his thing. you know of course there

01:05:41.849 --> 01:05:43.750
was going to be upset people you know they're

01:05:43.750 --> 01:05:46.650
confronting him and you know shaking their fingers

01:05:46.650 --> 01:05:51.849
and right doing their thing exactly but what

01:05:51.849 --> 01:05:59.170
happened just you to everyone who is cheering

01:05:59.170 --> 01:06:03.550
to everyone who thinks that this was just that

01:06:03.550 --> 01:06:08.389
this was valid that this was a good thing that

01:06:08.389 --> 01:06:11.860
you're supporting the murderer that's what that's

01:06:11.860 --> 01:06:14.219
what this person was he's you know he that did

01:06:14.219 --> 01:06:18.099
this he was a murder he's a murderer right all

01:06:18.099 --> 01:06:24.699
you are doing is validating him you are validating

01:06:24.699 --> 01:06:29.619
Charlie K you are validating every view he has

01:06:29.619 --> 01:06:34.460
yeah you are you are making proving him right

01:06:34.460 --> 01:06:37.519
basically him right because what you said is

01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:41.679
absolutely correct You we could have waited for

01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:43.320
him, you know, something would have come out,

01:06:43.380 --> 01:06:46.320
you know, oh he The receipts would have come

01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:48.360
out. He kicked a puppy one time or you know,

01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:52.940
whatever, you know, he he shook, you know a Nazi's

01:06:52.940 --> 01:06:55.199
hand one time accidentally at a rally or something

01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:57.280
and that that would have and that would have

01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:59.539
bought him down and that would have you know

01:06:59.539 --> 01:07:02.760
Lessened his impact. But what has happened? You've

01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:04.760
turned him into a martyr. You've turned him into

01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:11.440
a Messiah You have turned him into this goalpost

01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:16.260
that every single one of his followers, one of

01:07:16.260 --> 01:07:21.539
his more extreme followers, to try to emulate

01:07:21.539 --> 01:07:24.860
and to try to become, but they're not gonna become

01:07:24.860 --> 01:07:28.059
him. They're gonna be the extreme version that

01:07:28.059 --> 01:07:32.239
they heard in their mind. Exactly, exactly. Whatever

01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.179
it is that you are fighting for has now become

01:07:36.179 --> 01:07:40.739
a target. Yep. If you believe, you know, if you're

01:07:40.739 --> 01:07:45.619
a, you know, trans people or, you know, great

01:07:45.619 --> 01:07:48.820
people or, you know, free Palestine, all of that

01:07:48.820 --> 01:07:53.039
is now a target. You know, it may not have been

01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:56.059
before, but it sure as hell is now. Yeah, I hear

01:07:56.059 --> 01:07:57.639
you. I hear what you're saying. And with, you

01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:01.360
know, when you got politicians, not really leading,

01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:05.380
just, you know, being as inflammatory as possible.

01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:08.360
You know, I'm not even talking about the president.

01:08:08.420 --> 01:08:12.059
I'm talking about, like, mayors of cities and

01:08:12.059 --> 01:08:16.000
governors of states, thinking that they're more

01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:20.960
important than what is good, what is best for

01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:24.340
the people. That their personal politics are

01:08:24.340 --> 01:08:25.979
what's more important. When you have people like

01:08:25.979 --> 01:08:30.640
that calling for more violence, instigating things

01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.939
more, how the hell is that going to help anything?

01:08:35.930 --> 01:08:38.170
you're right and you know all you disgusting

01:08:38.170 --> 01:08:41.630
people that are you know celebrating you know

01:08:41.630 --> 01:08:44.609
this man's death you may not have liked him but

01:08:44.609 --> 01:08:48.310
you you celebrating his death the way you are

01:08:48.310 --> 01:08:51.770
shows that you are indeed the problem people

01:08:51.770 --> 01:08:55.590
like you are absolutely the problem and i wish

01:08:55.590 --> 01:08:58.630
to god people would would practice more of just

01:08:58.630 --> 01:09:02.869
ignoring certain people i really do just just

01:09:02.869 --> 01:09:05.659
ignore certain people you take away their power

01:09:05.659 --> 01:09:10.000
that way. Exactly, exactly. You know? Yeah. If

01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.079
anybody knows, if you guys are listening to this

01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:15.560
on the podcast, if you're listening to it on

01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:22.779
our radio episode, Spotify or iHeartRadio or

01:09:22.779 --> 01:09:28.119
Apple iPod, you hear the shakiness on Chu's voice,

01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:31.510
that's... that's him being pissed that's you

01:09:31.510 --> 01:09:35.010
can you can hear i am pissed the the the quake

01:09:35.010 --> 01:09:41.090
in it you know i mean i understand i understand

01:09:41.090 --> 01:09:45.069
how some people are like okay we got rid of this

01:09:45.069 --> 01:09:49.329
one no no that's that's not no that's not the

01:09:49.329 --> 01:09:52.170
reaction we need to have because we're just no

01:09:52.170 --> 01:09:55.310
better than they are exactly we we can't prove

01:09:55.310 --> 01:10:02.350
this gentleman so boldly say gentlemen, and I'm

01:10:02.350 --> 01:10:05.289
biting my tongue while saying it, to be taken

01:10:05.289 --> 01:10:08.829
away from this world and then pretty much proving

01:10:08.829 --> 01:10:13.829
what he was spitting. Yeah. Through the airwaves.

01:10:14.390 --> 01:10:16.510
I had to, I had the same reaction when they took

01:10:16.510 --> 01:10:19.369
a, when that idiot, that other idiot took a pot

01:10:19.369 --> 01:10:22.210
shot of Trump. You just, you just won him the

01:10:22.210 --> 01:10:26.850
election. You, he, oh my God, Trump just won

01:10:26.850 --> 01:10:31.260
the election. And look what happened. He won.

01:10:35.899 --> 01:10:42.899
When people do stuff like this for political

01:10:42.899 --> 01:10:47.859
reasons, for the very temporary political position

01:10:47.859 --> 01:10:52.979
that they have, you're only validating what the

01:10:52.979 --> 01:10:56.279
other side said. The other side was right. We

01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.939
told you. Yeah, we told you. Yeah. Yeah, we told

01:10:58.939 --> 01:11:01.739
you look we we we told you that these people

01:11:01.739 --> 01:11:04.359
are insane that they don't care about Anybody

01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:06.479
but themselves that they're they're mentally

01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:10.119
unfit. Right, right, right Nothing because ever

01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:12.939
is ever going to get better if it's it keeps

01:11:12.939 --> 01:11:15.460
going like this And the next question is I don't

01:11:15.460 --> 01:11:16.920
mean to cut you out because you're really getting

01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:19.939
into digging deep into this one Was there enough

01:11:19.939 --> 01:11:22.699
security? I mean there was absolutely not there

01:11:22.699 --> 01:11:25.430
were there was reports of kids I call them kids,

01:11:25.590 --> 01:11:29.350
they're college kids. Pictures of someone on

01:11:29.350 --> 01:11:32.250
top of a roof already, laying down, flat on their

01:11:32.250 --> 01:11:34.710
stomach, already ready to go, which didn't look

01:11:34.710 --> 01:11:36.850
like it from far away, but it looked like he

01:11:36.850 --> 01:11:39.170
was covered in some sort of towel or a blanket

01:11:39.170 --> 01:11:41.850
to blend with the colors that were on top of

01:11:41.850 --> 01:11:46.189
the building. Okay. Well now see, I will preface

01:11:46.189 --> 01:11:51.220
this. The other times that he has... been at

01:11:51.220 --> 01:11:54.539
other universities and doing events like this,

01:11:54.939 --> 01:11:58.020
there hasn't been much more security than what

01:11:58.020 --> 01:12:03.699
this university had posted at the time. There

01:12:03.699 --> 01:12:07.039
was minor security, but not like police presence,

01:12:08.020 --> 01:12:12.140
or they weren't checking bags, or maybe they

01:12:12.140 --> 01:12:19.800
were, I don't know. this event wasn't really

01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:22.899
supposed to be any different than the other events

01:12:22.899 --> 01:12:26.680
that he's participated in. And there have been

01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:32.199
more vicious, vitriol interactions he's had at

01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.899
different universities, like in California and

01:12:34.899 --> 01:12:40.340
things like that. So I will say... Not giving

01:12:40.340 --> 01:12:42.600
the school the benefit of the doubt, but I will

01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:45.619
say this wasn't really Supposed to be any any

01:12:45.619 --> 01:12:47.779
different than any other event that he has attended

01:12:47.779 --> 01:12:50.800
right security wise right? And I know they will

01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:52.760
like I said going back to that being hidden and

01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:57.880
now there were it's When I saw them arrest that

01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:00.760
old gentleman the supposedly a professor yeah,

01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:04.899
they had him in cuffs and taken away A lot of

01:13:04.899 --> 01:13:06.680
my buddies at work were talking about this. He

01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:08.220
goes, I don't know why they arrested that guy.

01:13:08.340 --> 01:13:12.359
You know what? That's kind of a scheme to calm

01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:16.000
the people down to say, OK, we got him. We got

01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:17.359
him. We're taking him. He's a suspect. We're

01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:20.079
taking him away. So calm down, everybody. Let's

01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:23.619
chill. Go back to normal. It got taken care of.

01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:28.539
They were trying to go out with a win, which

01:13:28.539 --> 01:13:32.140
they hadn't even found the actual guy who took

01:13:32.140 --> 01:13:35.439
the shot. Does that make any sense? It's like

01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:39.460
okay? You're describing like a PR stunt. Exactly.

01:13:40.260 --> 01:13:42.899
We'll let's arrest this guy, take him in. We'll

01:13:42.899 --> 01:13:45.399
say we questioned him and what so have you and

01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:47.640
then we'll get someone else and what so have

01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:49.520
you but we cannot let these people know that

01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:52.420
we don't know what the hell is going on. We have

01:13:52.420 --> 01:13:55.319
absolutely no idea what is happening and we are

01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:57.439
barely catching up right now. Yeah, it's a cover

01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:02.000
-up with cover -up with cover -up. I got I got

01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:03.979
people already. I got a lot of people coming

01:14:03.979 --> 01:14:06.920
in here and they're putting in putting their

01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:08.600
their comments in and I'm posting a lot, but

01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:12.020
I'm sorry if I can't read them fast enough, but

01:14:12.020 --> 01:14:19.380
Seeing that you know it kind of Is it gonna take

01:14:19.380 --> 01:14:26.319
This in particular incident To cover gun control

01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:29.020
Well, no, it's not I'm gonna be honest with you.

01:14:29.020 --> 01:14:31.539
It's not no you know it's not it's not gonna

01:14:31.539 --> 01:14:34.439
it's not gonna be anything you know that bad

01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:39.180
it it's you know and i have something to play

01:14:39.180 --> 01:14:40.340
for you i'm not sure if you're gonna be able

01:14:40.340 --> 01:14:42.800
to hear it this is something someone sent me

01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:46.659
uh this is for this podcast we don't own the

01:14:46.659 --> 01:14:49.579
rights to it but uh it is something i would like

01:14:49.579 --> 01:14:51.479
to play for you guys i'm not sure if you'll be

01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:52.760
able to hear it or not i'll try to put as loud

01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:55.039
as i can so you guys can hear it but here just

01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:58.260
sit back and listen to this check it out let's

01:14:58.260 --> 01:15:03.710
see what plays Play hook it on. Hold on. Hold

01:15:03.710 --> 01:15:05.550
on. Let me stop it and rewind it a little bit

01:15:05.550 --> 01:15:14.850
Okay, we put the sound on here you go Yeah Yeah,

01:15:14.850 --> 01:15:17.590
what do you think about that? Well pretty much

01:15:17.590 --> 01:15:19.689
the same thing that I think any time somebody

01:15:19.689 --> 01:15:22.789
dies due to gun violence in the US Which is that

01:15:22.789 --> 01:15:25.329
all of this could have been avoided and we need

01:15:25.329 --> 01:15:27.590
massive gun reform to prevent things like this

01:15:27.590 --> 01:15:30.100
from happening in the future although You know,

01:15:30.100 --> 01:15:32.859
if we're going to talk about gun violence today,

01:15:33.100 --> 01:15:35.000
I'd rather talk about the school shooting in

01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:37.659
Colorado, where four children were critically

01:15:37.659 --> 01:15:40.739
injured. I didn't even know about that. Yeah,

01:15:40.899 --> 01:15:43.020
it happened about the same time. There's some

01:15:43.020 --> 01:15:45.979
news reporting on it, but not a lot of it. And,

01:15:45.979 --> 01:15:48.260
you know, it's one in a long line of almost weekly

01:15:48.260 --> 01:15:50.420
school shootings in the U .S. that's constantly

01:15:50.420 --> 01:15:53.279
being ignored by the media, and one where the

01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:57.159
victims were innocents, you know, hurt by contrast.

01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.619
While not deserving to be shot was an awful person

01:16:00.619 --> 01:16:03.140
and one of many conservative influencers who's

01:16:03.140 --> 01:16:05.039
directly responsible for the state that the country

01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:06.960
is currently in, including all of the gun violence.

01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:09.579
How so? Well, to start with, the event he was

01:16:09.579 --> 01:16:12.180
shot at today was one of his infamous outdoor

01:16:12.180 --> 01:16:14.960
debate events that he's known for. And while

01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:16.939
he was shot, he was in the process of arguing

01:16:16.939 --> 01:16:19.539
against gun control, which is something that

01:16:19.539 --> 01:16:22.020
he's done frequently in the past. You know, he's

01:16:22.020 --> 01:16:25.920
quoted from 2023 as saying that He thinks it's

01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:28.460
worth it to have the cost of some gun deaths

01:16:28.460 --> 01:16:30.659
every year so that we can have the Second Amendment

01:16:30.659 --> 01:16:33.500
to protect our God -given rights. Which, you

01:16:33.500 --> 01:16:35.600
know, some makes it sound like it's just a few

01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:37.819
people that die each year, but something like

01:16:37.819 --> 01:16:41.439
45 ,000 people died or were injured last year

01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:44.220
due to gun violence. 500 of those deaths were

01:16:44.220 --> 01:16:46.560
due to mass shootings, and 5 ,000 of those deaths

01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:49.680
or injuries were teens or children, or which

01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:52.460
were those kids today, right? That's not a few.

01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:56.060
That's a crisis. And until his very last breath,

01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:59.220
literally, Kirk was arguing in favor of more

01:16:59.220 --> 01:17:01.439
guns and blaming trans people for mass shootings.

01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.979
He was also responsible for, I think, a lot of

01:17:03.979 --> 01:17:06.680
toxic masculinity thoughts and the type of things

01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:08.640
that encourage people to gun violence in the

01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:10.840
first place. This is a result of that, right?

01:17:11.340 --> 01:17:13.520
So, you know, I don't think he should have died.

01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:16.300
I don't wish gun violence on anybody, but almost

01:17:16.300 --> 01:17:18.279
called this upon himself. What do you think of

01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:20.539
Trump's reaction to this in comparison to their

01:17:20.539 --> 01:17:22.880
reactions to the school shootings? I mean, it's

01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:24.880
ironic that they're having a vigil in D .C. for

01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:28.220
Kirk, who's, again, right, been a supporter of

01:17:28.220 --> 01:17:31.380
gun violence for all this time, while you have

01:17:31.380 --> 01:17:33.880
all these many school shootings that happen and

01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:35.979
Trump can't even be bothered to talk about most

01:17:35.979 --> 01:17:39.460
of them. When these Democratic reps were assassinated

01:17:39.460 --> 01:17:42.020
a little while ago in Minnesota, Trump could

01:17:42.020 --> 01:17:43.859
barely be bothered to say anything about them

01:17:43.859 --> 01:17:45.979
or to call Tim Walz, the governor of this state,

01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:48.159
as is typically customary and these type of things,

01:17:48.579 --> 01:17:51.399
basically brush the whole thing off. And now

01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:54.659
he's calling, you know, Kirk legendary, basically

01:17:54.659 --> 01:17:56.560
because, you know, Kirk was a big supporter of

01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:58.720
his. Do you think they're going to use this as

01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:01.380
a false flag event? I don't know. It wouldn't

01:18:01.380 --> 01:18:04.640
surprise me if they did. False flag implies that

01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:06.640
they set it up and, you know, I haven't seen

01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:09.630
anything to indicate that that's true. It wouldn't

01:18:09.630 --> 01:18:11.569
really surprise me either way if this was something

01:18:11.569 --> 01:18:14.170
they set up but it's certainly unfortunate timing

01:18:14.170 --> 01:18:15.949
considering that it's going to drop focus away

01:18:15.949 --> 01:18:18.130
from the FC files and we continue to have more

01:18:18.130 --> 01:18:23.470
and more information come out. That's something

01:18:23.470 --> 01:18:26.630
that I that I they sent me and I was listening

01:18:26.630 --> 01:18:32.470
to it and I was like wow wow you know which leads

01:18:32.470 --> 01:18:35.819
to the last question of the night. What is the

01:18:35.819 --> 01:18:37.880
outcome of the events affecting America today

01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:45.000
the the the shooting on on chuck chuck k? It's

01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:49.260
to me The way what you were saying it just makes

01:18:49.260 --> 01:18:54.279
things more complicated and worse It could have

01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:58.319
been defused At that point by and I'm sorry to

01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:00.119
say this guys. I'm sorry to say as it says to

01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:04.239
you guys We live in the US and if you don't I

01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:07.579
feel just the way you you feel having the having

01:19:07.579 --> 01:19:14.000
This gentleman run the country but at that moment

01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:22.579
He Could have took in a hard left and said we

01:19:22.579 --> 01:19:24.970
have to stop this political violence That's it.

01:19:25.029 --> 01:19:28.630
And leave it as is. Unfortunately, it didn't

01:19:28.630 --> 01:19:33.689
roll that way. It did not roll that way. He automatically

01:19:33.689 --> 01:19:39.909
attacked the Democratic Party like crazy. And

01:19:39.909 --> 01:19:43.329
now in reports that we're reading on now, he's

01:19:43.329 --> 01:19:45.609
trying to backpedal. You've already set the fuse.

01:19:46.470 --> 01:19:52.729
You lit the wick already. Are we in the moments?

01:19:52.989 --> 01:19:55.550
and i hate to say this and like i said this is

01:19:55.550 --> 01:20:01.609
a very very very sensitive podcast do you feel

01:20:01.609 --> 01:20:04.550
and this is a question for everybody is watching

01:20:04.550 --> 01:20:06.270
out there and i know there's a lot of people

01:20:06.270 --> 01:20:12.050
out here uh commenting do you feel we are in

01:20:12.050 --> 01:20:19.310
the verge of a civil war no we've been in the

01:20:19.310 --> 01:20:22.430
civil war for a while now It's been skirmishes,

01:20:22.550 --> 01:20:29.010
it's been little hit and run kind of things here

01:20:29.010 --> 01:20:36.449
and there. For every attempt on President Trump's

01:20:36.449 --> 01:20:42.489
life, I can point to some idiot driving through

01:20:42.489 --> 01:20:46.350
a crowd of protesters during the Biden administration

01:20:46.350 --> 01:20:50.069
with a vehicle. It's been, you know, it's been

01:20:50.069 --> 01:20:54.430
constant debates. Constant, you know, in fighting

01:20:54.430 --> 01:20:57.529
between Democrats and other Democrats, Republicans

01:20:57.529 --> 01:20:59.510
and other Republicans, Democrats and Republicans.

01:21:00.750 --> 01:21:04.909
And nothing getting done. Government shutting

01:21:04.909 --> 01:21:11.329
down. People, you know, being left without, you

01:21:11.329 --> 01:21:15.989
know, payment. Without paychecks, you know, without,

01:21:15.989 --> 01:21:18.050
you know. the government freezing up and you

01:21:18.050 --> 01:21:20.109
know senators and governors and things like that

01:21:20.109 --> 01:21:23.810
still having their needs met it we've been we've

01:21:23.810 --> 01:21:25.949
been in a civil war for a very long time now

01:21:25.949 --> 01:21:29.149
okay i got what you're saying yeah this is this

01:21:29.149 --> 01:21:32.270
is just the latest escalation and the fact that

01:21:32.270 --> 01:21:34.649
the president of course attacked that that's

01:21:34.649 --> 01:21:36.390
just what he does that's his knee -jerk reaction

01:21:36.390 --> 01:21:39.289
to everything attacked yeah so i'm not even surprised

01:21:39.289 --> 01:21:44.300
by that what i am surprised by is how willing

01:21:44.300 --> 01:21:46.819
the rest of the country is to follow his lead

01:21:46.819 --> 01:21:50.520
in that way. Just attack, not even have a conversation,

01:21:50.619 --> 01:21:52.340
not even talk about what's really happening.

01:21:52.420 --> 01:21:55.260
Right, exactly. Just to follow his lead on that.

01:21:56.199 --> 01:22:01.039
Just attack, not even talk about stuff. How is

01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:03.779
that ever going to fix anything? Because to the

01:22:03.779 --> 01:22:06.680
point of what he said, Oh, well, you know, he

01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:08.340
could have, you know, tilted the discussion to,

01:22:08.340 --> 01:22:10.760
you know, fixing, you know, gun control laws

01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:12.760
and things like that. Right. You know what? President

01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:14.920
Biden didn't say anything either. Right. How

01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:17.180
many Democratic presidents came and went and

01:22:17.180 --> 01:22:19.260
didn't do anything? I totally agree with you.

01:22:19.380 --> 01:22:22.140
How many presidents have come and gone where

01:22:22.140 --> 01:22:24.140
there have been school massive school shootings

01:22:24.140 --> 01:22:27.460
since Columbine? Exactly. And nothing has been

01:22:27.460 --> 01:22:31.630
done has been done by any side. Exactly. Exactly,

01:22:31.890 --> 01:22:33.710
I totally agree with you. I totally agree with

01:22:33.710 --> 01:22:35.909
you. And, you know, you can make the argument,

01:22:36.149 --> 01:22:38.270
oh well, you know, people in the Netherlands,

01:22:38.409 --> 01:22:41.350
you know, they, everyone there in the Netherlands

01:22:41.350 --> 01:22:44.329
carries guns just as openly as we do here in

01:22:44.329 --> 01:22:47.289
the United States, and they don't have, you know,

01:22:47.350 --> 01:22:50.050
gun, they don't have school shootings, mass shootings

01:22:50.050 --> 01:22:53.250
like we do here in the United States. Well, if

01:22:53.250 --> 01:22:56.569
that's so, well then, what is the problem? Why

01:22:56.569 --> 01:22:59.010
is no one talking about the real problem? Exactly.

01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:03.819
Ladies and gentlemen, we are an hour and 23 minutes

01:23:03.819 --> 01:23:10.319
on this subject, man. I know Chu and I really

01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:13.319
sat back and we talked about the point of doing

01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:16.600
this episode, considering today is September

01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:19.500
11th, one of the most tragic days in history,

01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:24.399
in American history. And now what happened yesterday,

01:23:24.899 --> 01:23:30.850
it's all in all, just to sum it up, guys. And

01:23:30.850 --> 01:23:35.369
Chu really hit it on the nail what he said about

01:23:35.369 --> 01:23:39.149
you're giving them what they want. All I can

01:23:39.149 --> 01:23:46.310
say is that, you know, a man was taken out of

01:23:46.310 --> 01:23:52.470
this world wrongfully yesterday. I know... people

01:23:52.470 --> 01:23:54.250
have different opinions about him people what

01:23:54.250 --> 01:23:57.369
they feel people say well he deserved it or you

01:23:57.369 --> 01:24:01.489
know thank god he's gone i don't know that's

01:24:01.489 --> 01:24:04.229
based out of anger i know i know the gentleman

01:24:04.229 --> 01:24:08.010
was a horrible man horrible on what he would

01:24:08.010 --> 01:24:11.510
say to poke at people what he would what he'd

01:24:11.510 --> 01:24:18.850
do to get a rise out of people but the real what

01:24:18.850 --> 01:24:22.170
i wanted like i said empathy sympathy I feel

01:24:22.170 --> 01:24:27.229
he'd left two dollars behind Well, no $1 once

01:24:27.229 --> 01:24:28.890
I'm sorry $1 once I'm sorry take that back. I'm

01:24:28.890 --> 01:24:32.229
sorry didn't check that right, but $1 was not

01:24:32.229 --> 01:24:37.050
in a wife. Those kids will now live without a

01:24:37.050 --> 01:24:41.010
father -in -life some Celebrate that which I

01:24:41.010 --> 01:24:43.770
don't think anybody should celebrate that Was

01:24:43.770 --> 01:24:45.909
anything need kids need both of their parents

01:24:45.909 --> 01:24:50.520
in there now? Is it something that well? your

01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:53.760
views are wrong or what so have you i don't know

01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:59.060
man it's i don't know what to say anymore you

01:24:59.060 --> 01:25:01.699
know just seeing seeing everything that i've

01:25:01.699 --> 01:25:10.020
seen on x tiktok facebook instagram dude we are

01:25:10.020 --> 01:25:13.279
following into us in a third world country to

01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:14.939
the point where we're celebrating people's deaths

01:25:16.339 --> 01:25:19.779
That's what that's what we're it's like the way

01:25:19.779 --> 01:25:21.920
we're not we're supposed to be better than that.

01:25:22.060 --> 01:25:28.420
I know Deep down inside you're like Okay Let's

01:25:28.420 --> 01:25:34.680
move on right But The first impression is the

01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:38.680
lasting impression Those are your true colors

01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:41.319
I've always the ever the first impression is

01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:43.720
the right is the best impression this that's

01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:47.109
what's gonna prove who you are as a person. That's

01:25:47.109 --> 01:25:49.750
who you will be to that person. Exactly. For

01:25:49.750 --> 01:25:56.350
the rest of the time. Yeah, exactly. And I got,

01:25:56.350 --> 01:25:59.149
as you were saying, I love everybody, but I'm

01:25:59.149 --> 01:26:04.869
brown, and the facts are the facts. Facts are

01:26:04.869 --> 01:26:07.750
the facts. We're hated for the language we speak,

01:26:08.050 --> 01:26:10.850
for the food we eat, for the brown of our skin,

01:26:11.189 --> 01:26:14.319
for the country that... our roots are from so

01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:16.460
unfortunately that's my opinion you know what

01:26:16.460 --> 01:26:19.380
that is your opinion Jacinto and that's a respectful

01:26:19.380 --> 01:26:21.939
opinion on your end and other people may disagree

01:26:21.939 --> 01:26:24.279
with you wait a minute but that's that it is

01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:28.920
it is what it is what Jacinto's brown oh god

01:26:28.920 --> 01:26:35.239
block him block him right now and tariff him

01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:46.250
what are you Dave Chappelle dude Am now Anyways,

01:26:46.310 --> 01:26:48.689
I didn't want to end it with a laugh there guys,

01:26:48.729 --> 01:26:54.029
but I mean I'm trying to like it's something

01:26:54.029 --> 01:26:56.409
horrible that happened yesterday something horrible

01:26:56.409 --> 01:27:00.029
in history happened today Guys, I just want to

01:27:00.029 --> 01:27:02.289
say thank you for everybody for tuning in tonight

01:27:02.289 --> 01:27:07.609
on this episode. It was a very one one of very

01:27:07.609 --> 01:27:10.680
few that you and I have actually really touched

01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:15.220
into a subject that was, you know, kind of poking

01:27:15.220 --> 01:27:17.239
at the nerve a little bit. Cause I know you can

01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:20.859
go all night talking about this subject. I know

01:27:20.859 --> 01:27:24.300
you, I know you. And if anybody wants to have

01:27:24.300 --> 01:27:29.140
a political argument, choose the guy. Don't let

01:27:29.140 --> 01:27:31.000
the one eye fool you and the one leg fool you.

01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:33.520
This guy can... Don't get me started. I don't

01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:38.039
get started. Don't get me started. You have no

01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:42.720
idea how much I restrain. myself i would be naked

01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:49.819
right now god bless america but i got another

01:27:49.819 --> 01:27:52.840
one here from jose martinez here uh this is all

01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:55.539
i'm saying is that uh where uh was all the energy

01:27:55.539 --> 01:27:58.859
on for one man when kids of the year the massive

01:27:58.859 --> 01:28:03.920
amount of yes yes yes yes exactly uh and you

01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:06.180
know and that's what you talked about earlier

01:28:06.180 --> 01:28:09.609
yeah it's it's the point where we're making this

01:28:09.609 --> 01:28:13.689
person um you know the reactions of it a martyr

01:28:13.689 --> 01:28:16.529
yeah the way we just said so but he is a he is

01:28:16.529 --> 01:28:19.869
an undying hero now unfortunately now we want

01:28:19.869 --> 01:28:21.989
to give him a medal uh but that's a whole other

01:28:21.989 --> 01:28:25.909
story get a holiday you'll get his you know he'll

01:28:25.909 --> 01:28:29.390
it'll be his birthday will be celebrated everything

01:28:29.390 --> 01:28:32.869
he's a hero now yeah Thanks a lot. Yeah, but

01:28:32.869 --> 01:28:36.430
anyways guys Once again, thank you to every single

01:28:36.430 --> 01:28:38.670
one of you that are watching tonight Big shout

01:28:38.670 --> 01:28:40.970
out to chew for coming out having some even though

01:28:40.970 --> 01:28:42.810
it was muddy trails where I went to go pick them

01:28:42.810 --> 01:28:48.289
up I'm still gonna take them back Probably sling

01:28:48.289 --> 01:28:50.329
them out and then slip and slide to his front

01:28:50.329 --> 01:28:57.250
door But chew any last words for tonight's episode

01:28:57.250 --> 01:29:03.069
just I wish everyone would really just look inward

01:29:03.069 --> 01:29:07.250
to what it is or who they really are inside.

01:29:08.369 --> 01:29:13.770
If you're really that thrilled and excited at

01:29:13.770 --> 01:29:19.069
the death of someone, maybe the problem is you.

01:29:20.130 --> 01:29:25.989
Or maybe it's not everyone else. And I really

01:29:25.989 --> 01:29:32.960
hope, God, what can I possibly say in a world

01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:35.819
where, you know, children and babies are dying

01:29:35.819 --> 01:29:41.340
and that's not enough to make people stop? Just

01:29:41.340 --> 01:29:45.380
really look inside of you, everyone. Everyone

01:29:45.380 --> 01:29:49.140
look inside of yourselves and decide what kind

01:29:49.140 --> 01:29:53.420
of person you want to be. Not in the moment,

01:29:54.060 --> 01:29:56.279
not when you're angry, not when you're sad, not

01:29:56.279 --> 01:29:58.680
when, you know, things aren't going your way.

01:29:59.130 --> 01:30:04.189
every day and who you want the person that you

01:30:04.189 --> 01:30:08.390
want to be that people remember. Whether you

01:30:08.390 --> 01:30:14.409
were a great person or just like an okay person,

01:30:14.930 --> 01:30:21.670
that really is up to you. I really do hope people

01:30:21.670 --> 01:30:24.949
start being more introspective about what they're

01:30:24.949 --> 01:30:29.369
trying to do in this world. wise words from a

01:30:29.369 --> 01:30:33.069
gentleman who You know knows what's going on

01:30:33.069 --> 01:30:35.090
basically every day in part of the world that's

01:30:35.090 --> 01:30:37.010
always always keeping a track on everything that's

01:30:37.010 --> 01:30:39.909
going on man Once again, thank you once again

01:30:39.909 --> 01:30:46.229
to everybody I'll use the famous words of mr.

01:30:46.409 --> 01:30:50.109
Rogers love each other Won't you be my neighbor

01:30:50.109 --> 01:30:58.210
won't you be my neighbor Brian you're late Go

01:30:58.210 --> 01:31:06.310
back and watch the replay guys Ladies and gentlemen,

01:31:06.310 --> 01:31:08.770
thank you so much for tuning in for one of the

01:31:08.770 --> 01:31:12.949
most Interesting episodes out of all the ones

01:31:12.949 --> 01:31:17.890
we've had you and I man. Yeah We'll give you

01:31:17.890 --> 01:31:20.609
a run run by everything you know, you'll know

01:31:20.609 --> 01:31:22.829
you'll know what you're talking about Brian but

01:31:23.560 --> 01:31:26.880
Thank you for so much training this week. This

01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:29.739
was great. I appreciate you guys tuning in for

01:31:29.739 --> 01:31:34.579
tonight and thank you for reading The actual

01:31:34.579 --> 01:31:36.840
post I put on to understand what kind of podcast

01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:38.880
is gonna be and thank you for the few that came

01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:41.239
in to watch and the few that are watching after

01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:43.760
the replay when this ends Thank you for tuning

01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:48.060
in and watching with us next week 7 30 p .m.

01:31:48.819 --> 01:31:53.779
We have Anthony Nino do we still have our audience

01:31:53.779 --> 01:31:59.760
here? We have Anthony a comedian from the RGB

01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:03.100
will be on our podcast lighten things up again

01:32:03.100 --> 01:32:06.000
Supposedly he went into surgery up in Houston

01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:10.039
something about a sex change. I don't know I

01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:12.119
Know it was a butt lift a Brazilian butt lift.

01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:16.859
I was telling me all those BBLs are tricky You're

01:32:16.859 --> 01:32:20.670
not supposed to fly after those But, uh, we have

01:32:20.670 --> 01:32:23.590
Anthony here next week on the podcast, uh, VI

01:32:23.590 --> 01:32:26.050
video. So he'll be, he won't be in the studio,

01:32:26.149 --> 01:32:28.529
but cause he's on recovery at the time. So that

01:32:28.529 --> 01:32:30.649
should be a treat for us to talk to him and talk

01:32:30.649 --> 01:32:33.229
about the shows that are coming up. Uh, Chew,

01:32:33.329 --> 01:32:36.090
sign us out. I've been Chew and I am who we'll

01:32:36.090 --> 01:32:40.810
see you next week. 7 30 for episode two 61 ladies,

01:32:40.869 --> 01:32:44.130
Jim. And like always, ladies, gays, peace out.

01:32:44.189 --> 01:32:44.609
Bye everybody.