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bask in our glow What's going on guys welcome

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back to the Juneau podcast Unfortunately, this

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thing is back with me again. You're welcome.

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Oh my gosh You know how hard it is to leave him

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You know how hard it is to leave him behind me

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because he keeps hacking latch onto the door.

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I mean he is only on one Anyways episode 250

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to today we had announced this uh this past uh

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tuesday in the last episode where we had a little

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chit chat going on but on today's podcast we

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have two very special guests and to find out

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that not only that they're brothers when you

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got brothers that work on the same team together

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in a band nothing can go wrong what's that what's

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that like you know what honestly i really don't

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because my brother i never never co -exist i'm

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the rock he's the hip -hop artist so it never

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really worked you know what i mean there's a

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reason for that isn't there yes there is but

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all that small talk over yeah ladies gentlemen

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i like to welcome see if i say this correct room

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Ruin -Cross? Ruin -Cross. Ruin -Cross. You had

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some right there. It was something. I knew it.

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Ruin -Cross. We've heard many different pronunciations.

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That was a good one. We were saying it yesterday,

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Ruin -Cross. It sounded like a German name. Ruin

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-Cross. Ruin -Cross. It's Ruin -Cross. Two different

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words, but put together. I don't know, man, but

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I like it. I like the whole word itself. It sounds

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awesome. And not to mention the music. The music

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is just taking me back, bro. We're talking about

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that before the show started, you know, how...

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There's two styles of music that come together

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and these guys made it work for both ways and

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you can hear the difference of Adding on more

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stuff as far as like rock and alternative sound

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into it. That's what makes it so awesome, bro

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But enough about that. I want to hear you guys

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story. We'll start with Abel Yes. Let's start

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with Abel first. Let me see if I can get the

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right camera push here. Nope, wrong one. There

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it is. Abel, there it is. Go ahead, Abel. Tell

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us a little about yourself, bro. Where you grew

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up and, you know, if you have any stories about

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your brother here, that'd be great. There was

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one time in Bandcamp. No, go ahead. I was a late

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bloomer to music, you know. I had been, you know,

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I started off as like a roadie and... With our

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we have a metal band too, you know, that's been

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around since 1999 I was a roadie at that time,

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but you know now i'm like the lead singer but

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I started off, you know watching idolizing everybody

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going and making music and doing all this and

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You know one day something just snapped and well,

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I just Picked up, you know running. I play piano.

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I play guitar I sing Yeah, I program music. I

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just uh, wow doodle or I write. Right, right.

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I try to draw pain, you know. Right, right. Obsessed

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with art and, you know, being, you know, you

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know, I went to school, I studied psychology,

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philosophy and stuff like that. This right here

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explains a lot of some of the music that I've

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been listening to now. It's most definitely different,

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you know what I mean? Like, I went to high school,

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I graduated top of my class. Yeah, and I was

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just like, you know, my mom's all happy. She's

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like, oh, he's gonna make a lot of money and

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you're being a tech nerd and whatever. He's gonna

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be a doctor. He's gonna be president. I hear

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you. I hear you. I think I want to be a musician

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and a philosopher. There's no money in it, but...

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Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah,

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but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but

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no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no!

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Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah,

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but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but

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no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no!

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Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah,

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but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but no! Yeah, but

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no! Yeah, but no! Yeah I feel like that's what

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society misses in this world is people set to

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do art and think and I think it's important and

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so I hold it down, you know, I live a humble

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life and I just like to make music, you know,

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to be happy. You want texting your brother now?

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You want to get your brother here and get a couple

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of things? Go ahead, let's see what brother has

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to say here. Go ahead, man. The second half of

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this awesome band. Go ahead, man. Tell us a little

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about yourself. So I started playing music in

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1996. I was influenced by heavy metal. Ozzy Osbourne,

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Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, that stuff. I grew

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up with my aunts and uncles, just maybe 10 years

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older than me. So they were hip. in the 80s and

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90s, and I got to listen to their record collections,

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their tapes. We'd go cruising, remember cruising?

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My grandma would be like, you can go, but you

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gotta take him with you. How many times have

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I heard that? So I started listening to music

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from everything from Depeche Mode to Iron Maiden

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to Welling Jennings and everything so I grew

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up in a very different vibes and I got the bug

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early on. I wasn't in my first band before I

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even knew how to string a guitar. I just wanted

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it to be so bad so... Pound Anderson was the

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thing of the time. It was a punk band called

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Silicone and then we changed it to Raging Hormones

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and it was the most terrible stuff in the world.

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I didn't know how to play an instrument but I

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tried. I mean it's punk. You're talking about

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Lonely Nights right now. But then I got more

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serious and I got more into like producing early

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on. just whatever poor musician growing up, whatever

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I could get my hands on and tape decks and going

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from one cassette layering over. Right. And just

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got into production more than anything else and

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then got into actually studying music and practicing

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like I was obsessed. Right. And started a black

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metal band in the late 90s and did that for about

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20 some years. And then got writer's block, you

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know, we released. It happens. I couldn't write

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a metal riff to save my life. And I got really

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down about it because that's my, I'm a musician.

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That's how I get through the hardships of life.

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And one day I was just like, I've always listened

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to like Nine Inch Nails and industrial music.

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And of course, the Peshmore, Flocko Seagulls.

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When in Rome and stuff like that. Let me try

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that. And I invested some money into it. And

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I remember getting into I had a home. I've always

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had a home studio. So I've always been blessed

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to have be completely independent and do everything

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on my own. And I remember calling my brother

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up one day when I wrote the first song that was

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not metal that would become room cross. I remember

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calling him like, I think we just we're on a

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different path now. And really, are you just

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doing and. So my brother had already been singing

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with me with the metal band, just us two. I was

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doing all the music, guitar, bass, everything.

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And he was doing the vocals and acoustic guitar.

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And we switched over and we've been working twice

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as hard as we were usually doing. And Ruin Cross

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came out of that and it's been an awesome. you

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know metal would be harder to play but when you

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start thinking about technical things you know

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when you're looking at frequencies and buttons

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and and gear and midi right right oh man i thought

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i was gonna press a couple buttons and just look

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good this is why you got a little brother with

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you now right i was like this is probably the

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hardest endeavor we've done but right the most

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rewarding you see and that's the cool thing about

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uh uh i love listening to musicians musicians

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uh backgrounds because the foundation where you

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started from know that I think when you're a

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musician you start from the ground up not meaning

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halfway point well oh we got all this thousand

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dollar musician thousand dollar music stuff man

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let's go and then I feel that You do it you have

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the high caliber stuff and then you feel like

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oh, but we're not getting anywhere you tend to

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like okay Well, let's that this one's something

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else But when you start from the bottom up from

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the ground up like you said start off with just

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a minute mediocre guitar I'm probably by your

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phone or just something simple just to start

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recording stuff. Well, that's that's the key

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stuff to start from we were so poor That we the

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need to record was so evident that I found out

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that if you plug in headphones into a mic input,

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one of the headphones becomes a mic. And that's

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how we sang our early stuff on headphones. We

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used to make songs, like joke songs about, you

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know, just... Oh, parodies, man. Those are the

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best ones. Did I just tell you that? What were

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you doing? I was just doing a few minutes ago.

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We know that we're, like, being creative. We

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thought we were just being a bunch of dumbasses

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and stuff. I actually got somebody I was asking...

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Those are some of the most creative people in

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the world. What's up, guys? We find your stuff.

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I know most of the stuff that I've seen on is

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on Spotify and on your YouTube also The YouTube

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has our latest yes The best place go to runecross

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.com R U I N K R O S com there you go It has

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all our music on there all the links you could

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find her Facebook link or band camp Our Instagram,

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all that stuff, our OnlyFans is on there. There

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you go. That's what I'm talking about. Now we're

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talking and we got cancelled. Just go to runecross

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.com it has links to everything and of course

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the music is also right off the bat there. We

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have the latest single page on the website so

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you can hear the latest stuff that we're releasing.

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Being brothers and everything, I know you guys

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say y 'all started off with a rock band friend,

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all that good stuff. When you go into a different

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form of music which what what you are doing now

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i mean you come up with this idea and you present

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it to your brother say hey man let's let's do

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this what are you thinking at that time like

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okay now this is a pretty much on your ballpark

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playing field because you've already been messing

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with us for a while well the thing with me and

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with us is that we we've always been creative

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we've listened to so much music in our we have

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the same mentality like we're gonna make music

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that we want here so we've done extreme metal

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we've done he's done score work we've done country

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songs for like a zombie movie called project

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x here so we've done rap hip hop uh you know

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i play acoustic guitar like classical stuff and

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you know it's just music just came naturally

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uh it's a gift and i you know i praise it so

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much that it's just like it's a beautiful thing

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so When he told me about this I was like this

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is Right up my alley like yeah, I was just like

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I'm just ready to I was you know just like a

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ball of creative energy just ready to go out

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and I Was just like I need to do something and

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so this is just the perfect outlet to just you

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know He knows me better right anyone else so

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he's able to Craft me you know and then from

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there. I'm like able to exert myself a good balance

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like that Right. And that's where it works, is

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balance. We complement each other. We both have

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our strengths. Right. And it's not just, it's

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different. So I couldn't do it without him and

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vice versa. Right, exactly. We have that mutual

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understanding to where we got to work together.

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Yeah, we really has been no issues. I mean Ain't

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no Oasis stuff going on And I totally understand

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what you're saying like like question I questions

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into the hip -hop thing I'm it's the rock thing

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if people always asked us man, you guys should

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do something We never did you know, but the whole

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podcasting thing now we feed off each other now

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cuz Started doing it then he started doing then

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we just started feeling all you should do this

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We should do that bring this guess on do this

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and see and it's you know total two different

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worlds of the podcast that we have But I mean

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ours like you too could be the new Limp Bizkit.

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I keep telling you guys It we took I don't know

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how long like I was in my own band. He was in

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his own band. Mm -hmm We would practice like

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in the same room, but we never really did music

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together And so he I started doing voice singing

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for the metal band, you know, I jumped in because

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uh, well he was just like a one -man band like

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he kicked out everybody else and He's very creative.

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He did the graphics, he does all that stuff.

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you know and he knew that I could sing and I

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sing like operatic and sing real ugly stuff bro

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I'm not gonna lie to you hearing to this is the

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music y 'all have I mean I wanted to meet the

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actual voice behind that I'm like well now I

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am being the voice of God and so like and we

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just we know we've listened to the same the good

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music that we the bands that we admire the same

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band so it's just like a real quick thing to

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where it's just like in this you know what I

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mean like he gives me something Like a little

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a word and I'll just start chanting. Oh and then

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from there we start writing Everything just kind

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of fits in together and it's uh So we never did

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any of that until finally when we click and it's

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like why should just be singing for him, right?

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You know what for this bad, so that's what happened.

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We did one track And the extreme metal the black

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metal band and then just slowly I sing clean

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and I do those, you know, right, right, right

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But I love singing clean. I love carrying the

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melody. I like doing all that stuff. So when

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we started doing this project, to me, I was just

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like, awesome. Like all the heartbreak songs

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that my mom listened to in the 80s is all paying

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dividends right now. So it's a beautiful thing

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to be able to make music with your brother. It's

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awesome. And I have a Jacinto Rivera saying,

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so these fellows are from the 956. Yes, actually

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they are. Homegrown here in West Lico, Texas.

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This is what makes it so. Pure man because it's

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from here. Oh I know those guys. They used to

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come out all the time. We were real big jerks.

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Yeah, we were terrible kids. But we were, I mean,

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this was before the internet and so forth. Yeah,

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yeah, I hear you. Harmless fun. I hear you. I

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hear you. Well, it's West that goes fall for

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not letting more people into the boys and girls

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club. I mean, come on. We're playing a fool.

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That's true. Well, we can go that way if you

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guys like. We'll show them. I got some stories.

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So the creativity this the music the sound who

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comes up with the sound first the beat I I do

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since I have a home studio with all my synthesizers

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and equipment ever I mean I sleep in the same

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room where my equipment's at so I Watch a movie

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I hear a phrase I read something I go into studio

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and I'll do the frame like solid 80 % of the

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stuff. And then I said it to my brother. And

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then we go from there. Pretty much the skeleton.

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Yeah, he takes it to another level. Like, there's

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always something missing. And and then when he

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puts the voice to him, like, no, the song is

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ready. It just needed his voice on there. And

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like right now, we're in fact, just yesterday,

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we're going to release a cover song for ministry

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for revenge. Okay. We're gonna release that single

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and I just finished it yesterday and I just mix

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and I send it to him and he gets it going and

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then we go to the studio and lay down his vocals.

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So most of the time what you're doing is it like

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a tennis match back and forth like you come up

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with the beat then he gets it then you get it

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back until finally it's like okay you know. All

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the time yeah like when we rehearse he's like

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this is all we got and like I said he has like

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an idea of words or sometimes I have ideas of

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words or sometimes we're just like a vibe or

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whatever you know just anything like having said

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we read a passage from a book we see a movie

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a piece of artwork or anything that just really

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just strikes our curiosity and right there we

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just like Expand until you know till we make

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magic, right? It's funny. It's funny that you

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say that like watching a movie or something like

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that because I've just recently I found out a

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couple of weeks ago when wife and I got into

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this this anime called attack on Titans and The

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reason why she really got into it is because

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Supposedly Bruno Mars was watching it and he

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started writing the music to die with a smile

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It was meant for that in particular and now when

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when I was she told me that her watching it holy

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crap bro I'll say it like man I literally balled

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out in every freaking scene because that's all

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you would hear is the lyrics when he would they

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would say every little line he goes wherever

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you go I'll go with you or I'll be with you yeah

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and you see and you watch and you watch this

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cartoon you watch this anime and you're thinking

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of the song you're like holy crap You hear it.

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Yeah, so and that's that's I guess they get inspired

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by and then what you just said right now You

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watch something you give me we're watching an

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80s movie and there's a certain passage. You're

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like, dude, that sounds badass Well, that's exactly

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what we want to do. We want to when you listen

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to us We want to strike that into somebody to

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be like, oh wow, like I want we want people To

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be inspired by you know to indulge in it to feel

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you know Just to feel the energy of the creative

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force a beauty of there whether if it's singing

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about Heartache or love or whatever we just want

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you to feel and have a reaction to it, right?

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That gets you moved like how you said it moved

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you you're like I want to watch this show Yeah,

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and I have another comment here from Mary De

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Oyo saying they are the real deal underground.

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And then I got Jacinto Rivera, he's a big one.

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This is a big one because Nikki needs music.

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He goes, but now let me check out their stuff

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first before and put up support for local talent.

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So Nikki Fuego is a wrestler. So yeah, local

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wrestler. fire right now in the industry here

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in rgb and in florida and north of texas so she's

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rocking and rolling right now i say our end game

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is film score and we we score i've we've done

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score work before we do theme songs so do you

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need a song to come out hey fun fact i graduated

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you know top of my game i had like a cisco networking

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when i was in high school so the monitor like

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interviewed me and they're like what do you want

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to be when you grow up and my mom still has a

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paper it's like i want to be a professional wrestler

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so i i like with that uh so we're down now when

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you guys perform in your venues or gigs that

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you got because i know recently you had one i

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think was the flying rollers i think it was i

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saw some of the video footage and that you had

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quite a few there people that were there i mean

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when you see that crowd out there and you're

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doing your thing on stage because i have yet

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to go to an actual uh event that you guys do

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a gig you guys do but as the look of it though

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i see that i'm like wow this really takes me

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back you know back to the early late 80s early

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90s so i'm like wow man whenever it's the same

00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:48.980
scene we were worried that show because we're

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playing at 6 45 you know so we're not our music

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is not for the day you know we're not music people

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yeah exactly but i told my brothers like hey

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someone has to start the show and then plus there

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might be people that have never been around us,

00:22:03.789 --> 00:22:07.109
you know, they're not 21 yet. They're not into

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the gods, seeing the dark wave scene or something.

00:22:09.509 --> 00:22:11.690
Right, right, right. I feel like people towards

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it. I looked up, you know, in the middle of our

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set and I was like, oh, wow, there's a lot of

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people that are. Yeah. Vibing with it. And it

00:22:18.210 --> 00:22:19.910
just goes to show, like, you know, no matter

00:22:19.910 --> 00:22:23.309
what show it is. You know, we're always ready

00:22:23.309 --> 00:22:25.750
to perform and put on the show, put, you know,

00:22:25.809 --> 00:22:28.990
put our stuff out there without any hesitation.

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We have literally played in front of two people

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before. And you couldn't tell. We went up there

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and we even did an encore. We got one more song.

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And I've told that to a lot of musicians, bro.

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I know the feeling when you're performing to

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two people, three people the most. I've been

00:22:48.579 --> 00:22:51.660
there. That's on look, dude. Those two people,

00:22:51.700 --> 00:22:53.220
three people that you perform, they're eventually

00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:55.859
gonna tell one other person. Just like, I'm sorry.

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It's like a... The famous Bruce Lee once said,

00:23:00.269 --> 00:23:02.390
you throw a pebble into a pond was to create

00:23:02.390 --> 00:23:05.769
a ripple. So eventually it's gonna spread out

00:23:05.769 --> 00:23:07.369
and everybody wants to come and check these guys

00:23:07.369 --> 00:23:10.190
out. So I mean those two performers, two people

00:23:10.190 --> 00:23:12.630
in your form got you what you got more or less

00:23:12.630 --> 00:23:14.609
what you have now. And we've been fortunate we've

00:23:14.609 --> 00:23:18.029
done big shows too. We've done festivals and

00:23:18.029 --> 00:23:21.490
stuff and I think our biggest show was in Corpus.

00:23:22.639 --> 00:23:27.220
That one was with twin tribes we played out there.

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And so whether it's 200, 300 people or two people.

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Which we're fortunate enough to you know, we're

00:23:34.019 --> 00:23:37.299
in our 40s now to still be doing it It's a blessing,

00:23:37.299 --> 00:23:40.000
you know, and then we have uh, the people that

00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:41.940
go see us are I wouldn't even say they're fans

00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:43.779
They're they're friends that we grew up with,

00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:46.400
you know, they're family. That's good. I mean,

00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:48.640
that's that's a good backbone for it They show

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up with their shirts. They've been and and they

00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:54.140
run They know us personally, you know, you know,

00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:56.380
so it's very awesome like doesn't matter like

00:23:56.380 --> 00:23:58.640
we just like to perform like I said we're in

00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:01.690
our 40s and We're here to make me, you know,

00:24:01.690 --> 00:24:04.210
artes vida is something that I am starting with,

00:24:04.210 --> 00:24:06.390
and so I was just like, hey, artes vida, you

00:24:06.390 --> 00:24:08.809
know, I'm like, I'm not meant for a nine to five,

00:24:08.890 --> 00:24:11.569
I'm meant to make music and sing, you know, my

00:24:11.569 --> 00:24:14.210
heart out, and so that's what I'm gonna do. See,

00:24:14.390 --> 00:24:17.369
if it's your cup of tea, man, that you like doing

00:24:17.369 --> 00:24:19.029
it, I mean, you also, you're making a little

00:24:19.029 --> 00:24:20.789
something, something to the side with it. Oh,

00:24:20.789 --> 00:24:22.269
we do. There you go, I mean, that's what it's

00:24:22.269 --> 00:24:24.470
all about. We make enough to get us to the next

00:24:24.470 --> 00:24:26.809
show. There you go. And if that's, you know,

00:24:26.890 --> 00:24:29.819
or to buy our equipment. Right. Hey, what more

00:24:29.819 --> 00:24:31.200
can I because I remember when we didn't have

00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.640
nothing, you know, we didn't have any equipment

00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:36.579
or it was pawn shop stuff. They was half broken.

00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:40.220
And now we can afford by our art to get us a

00:24:40.220 --> 00:24:42.400
couple of beers after a show, a little bit of

00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.000
food, gas. And actually, I was thinking about

00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:48.440
that today. I was like, man, I have like six

00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:54.299
guitars now. Like, how the heck did that happen?

00:24:54.660 --> 00:24:57.299
Yeah, I hear you. It happens, man. It happens.

00:24:57.539 --> 00:24:59.759
You know, it's a beautiful thing, you know, to

00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.599
be blessed to make music. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I really

00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.019
owe it all to, like, the universe for blessing

00:25:06.019 --> 00:25:09.039
me. Like, I, you know, I can't explain how much

00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:12.480
the philosophy of, like, Artes Vida has guided

00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.359
me since when I felt like I... You know, I was

00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.440
in high school. I kind of was like a late bloomer,

00:25:18.539 --> 00:25:20.700
like I said, you know, I didn't have no self

00:25:20.700 --> 00:25:23.900
-awareness of myself and, you know, following

00:25:23.900 --> 00:25:28.059
my brother's band and getting, I remember going

00:25:28.059 --> 00:25:30.720
to the first show that, and this one's the one

00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.240
that sparked this whole thing. We went to go

00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:39.460
see a band called Scarebyss. They're now a unholy

00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:43.369
desecration. Yeah, he was a big promoter so he

00:25:43.369 --> 00:25:46.470
would bring big bands down even recorded a bunch

00:25:46.470 --> 00:25:49.730
of bands of stuff Robert Ganales and man I remember

00:25:49.730 --> 00:25:53.470
when I went to go see a live show like underground

00:25:53.470 --> 00:25:58.869
show I just felt like this Massive energy that

00:25:58.869 --> 00:26:05.730
I just like It was amazing I was just the the

00:26:05.730 --> 00:26:09.630
whole The energy just hit me like like a brick

00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:11.529
wall. I was like this is what This is what I'm,

00:26:11.549 --> 00:26:15.069
this is what I'm looking for. Exactly. And you

00:26:15.069 --> 00:26:17.190
know, I can't complain, you know, you know, it's

00:26:17.190 --> 00:26:19.630
just fun when we're just kind of, I feel like

00:26:19.630 --> 00:26:23.190
we're just getting started, you know, like, you

00:26:23.190 --> 00:26:25.549
know, we're, we completed our first album and

00:26:25.549 --> 00:26:27.970
we're on our second album right now. And I just

00:26:27.970 --> 00:26:29.849
feel like things are getting better. Things are

00:26:29.849 --> 00:26:32.509
like coming into place. Things are becoming easier.

00:26:32.849 --> 00:26:36.069
You know, we have our vibe, we have our tone

00:26:36.069 --> 00:26:40.539
and we just got to keep cutting that wood. That's

00:26:40.539 --> 00:26:42.839
what it is, man. It's an everyday thing. It's

00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:45.140
an everyday thing. When it comes to musicians,

00:26:45.619 --> 00:26:48.480
a lot of people don't know is that sometimes,

00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.059
like you said, writer's block, sometimes you

00:26:51.059 --> 00:26:53.839
can't find the exact note that comes into the

00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:58.059
next note or to the bridge or to bleed here and

00:26:58.059 --> 00:27:01.400
come back to the chorus. There's so many situations

00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.559
when you're a musician you want to make it perfect.

00:27:04.059 --> 00:27:05.420
Some people just go out there and just do it.

00:27:05.609 --> 00:27:07.769
And you go, okay, this fits with this. If you

00:27:07.769 --> 00:27:10.029
study it, I'm pretty sure you studied music or

00:27:10.029 --> 00:27:12.390
both of y 'all studied music. You go from a certain

00:27:12.390 --> 00:27:15.470
A minor, you know, you can jump down to a D or

00:27:15.470 --> 00:27:18.789
move slightly to an F sharp. So you know how

00:27:18.789 --> 00:27:21.609
to calculate and maneuver music, notes around.

00:27:22.490 --> 00:27:24.650
Some people just, they get stuck. There's like,

00:27:25.250 --> 00:27:26.930
and they get discouraged and they just put their

00:27:26.930 --> 00:27:28.670
instrument away and then that's it. They forget

00:27:28.670 --> 00:27:31.109
about it. Other people just. go for it they want

00:27:31.109 --> 00:27:33.349
to continue they want to they want that goal

00:27:33.349 --> 00:27:35.890
they're reaching for that goal you know to come

00:27:35.890 --> 00:27:39.089
out with the best song ever you know i think

00:27:39.089 --> 00:27:41.950
that's our balance like lee's kind of more structured

00:27:41.950 --> 00:27:48.029
and i'm very anal i'm very meticulous and with

00:27:48.029 --> 00:27:50.589
me i'm like you know improv is my thing like

00:27:50.589 --> 00:27:53.089
you know give me a guitar a piano and i'm gonna

00:27:53.089 --> 00:27:56.269
make something and whatever so that's our balance

00:27:56.269 --> 00:27:58.849
that you know yeah and it's the roots need to

00:27:58.849 --> 00:28:01.490
be there for me to blossom like that, you know

00:28:01.490 --> 00:28:04.289
what I mean? So it's it just works out perfect

00:28:04.289 --> 00:28:06.910
for us. Do the two of you have to agree when

00:28:06.910 --> 00:28:09.809
a song is finished? Because I'm sure the the

00:28:09.809 --> 00:28:12.730
the urge to like continuously tinker with a song.

00:28:12.990 --> 00:28:16.430
We've never I think we trust each other to adjust.

00:28:17.130 --> 00:28:20.569
Our formula is yes, you know, if he has any input

00:28:20.569 --> 00:28:22.730
on it, yeah, definitely, you know, look at it.

00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:25.109
But I think that he has enough trust in me that

00:28:25.109 --> 00:28:27.609
I give him a song. It's it's ready to go. And

00:28:27.609 --> 00:28:30.289
he has his uh the cherry i mean that's what he

00:28:30.289 --> 00:28:33.730
does he has the the cherry on top and and we

00:28:33.730 --> 00:28:36.849
just go with it um i think the only time it was

00:28:36.849 --> 00:28:38.569
a little bit harder was when we were producing

00:28:38.569 --> 00:28:41.630
our first album like i said i'm very meticulous

00:28:41.630 --> 00:28:43.529
and abel was kept saying this song it's ready

00:28:43.529 --> 00:28:54.710
i was like no i hear you're the very No, and

00:28:54.710 --> 00:28:56.549
we just I think there was a little buzz from

00:28:56.549 --> 00:29:04.000
the speak and I was just you know has anxiety

00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:06.460
so that's just part but that's what makes it

00:29:06.460 --> 00:29:12.240
good you know what i think it's hilarious now

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.779
that it's over and be like bro you know it tripped

00:29:14.779 --> 00:29:19.039
off it took us seven years to get our first album

00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.940
out because we continuously redid it redid it

00:29:21.940 --> 00:29:24.339
and i went to other people and then we did and

00:29:24.339 --> 00:29:27.140
then finally you have to understand as a musician

00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:29.059
it's never going to be perfect exactly and let

00:29:29.059 --> 00:29:30.759
it go because you know what this is just our

00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.299
first album i was like We still got plenty more

00:29:33.299 --> 00:29:36.519
to go. I thought you'd get pissed off at me the

00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.599
next album too. Save that anger for the third

00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.099
album. It's only until you realize it's... his

00:29:44.099 --> 00:29:47.079
problem the funniest things when i do listen

00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:54.559
to it just like oh shit you're right i told you

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:58.099
bro i told you but did you listen bro but then

00:29:58.099 --> 00:30:00.039
i started listening to like led zeppelin and

00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.140
if if you really are like oh yeah you hear the

00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:05.480
mistakes you hear where they fumbled on the strings

00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:10.319
i hear led zeppelin and i hear uh what's the

00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.089
dire straits and or who does the Dun -dun -dun

00:30:14.089 --> 00:30:15.109
-dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun

00:30:15.109 --> 00:30:15.109
-dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun

00:30:15.109 --> 00:30:15.109
-dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun

00:30:15.109 --> 00:30:15.509
-dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun

00:30:15.509 --> 00:30:26.450
-dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun

00:30:26.450 --> 00:30:29.230
-dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun

00:30:29.230 --> 00:30:35.029
-dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -dun. They left it,

00:30:35.130 --> 00:30:37.369
no one's really, I bet you people listening are

00:30:37.369 --> 00:30:38.630
gonna go listen to it now and be like, where

00:30:38.630 --> 00:30:41.549
is it? I tried to find it. And the funny thing

00:30:41.549 --> 00:30:44.210
and sad thing is that a lot of musicians that

00:30:44.210 --> 00:30:47.349
play cover band music like that, they have to

00:30:47.349 --> 00:30:50.230
get that mistake. It has to sound exactly like

00:30:50.230 --> 00:30:55.740
that. And that right there, you gotta get that

00:30:55.740 --> 00:30:57.859
right, because people are gonna criticize us.

00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.519
And it's a simple mistake. I have a joke. When

00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:05.299
people cover Sublime, they have to suck. Oh great,

00:31:05.460 --> 00:31:09.279
everybody has a guitar now. But yeah, and you're

00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:11.519
right, the mistakes, there's a lot of... high

00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.319
caliber professional that make with jimmy hinders

00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.920
was one was a huge one make if you go to woodstock

00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.759
and the when he's playing the star spangled banner

00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.480
when he's playing hey joe you can hear all the

00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.079
mistakes but then again everybody's so stoned

00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:29.039
out there don't give a rat's ass i'm not sure

00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.539
that was an artistic choice but you know what

00:31:31.539 --> 00:31:33.660
i liked it because even i like i wasn't even

00:31:33.660 --> 00:31:35.519
on the stuff bro it sounded awesome the same

00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:37.440
thing like kerkel bain when they get them plugged

00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.980
when they cover man who sold the world yeah there's

00:31:39.980 --> 00:31:41.599
there's a mistake they kept it they could have

00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.000
fixed it so i started thinking that philosophy

00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.559
like just let the album go let it live that it

00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:50.500
gives it life i just we let it go and i was like

00:31:50.500 --> 00:31:53.119
we're gonna write better songs as we grow exactly

00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.259
and then the next thing you know we've our favorite

00:31:56.259 --> 00:31:58.319
songs the most successful song we've written

00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:00.460
so far that's really getting a lot of hits as

00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:03.559
necessary loss and i wrote that and maybe the

00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.880
whole song lyrics the whole song maybe in four

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.299
hours And that's when I was like, let it go.

00:32:09.500 --> 00:32:11.119
And that taught me a lesson saying, here I'm

00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.359
spending hours, months, years on a single song.

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.240
And then the song that really has been blowing

00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:22.299
up, song took me four hours to, from A to Z,

00:32:22.420 --> 00:32:23.200
finished completely. And I remember he called

00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:24.880
me, he's like, bro, I got everything. And I was

00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.240
like, oh, what's it about? I was like, no, I

00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:28.980
have the lyrics, I have everything, you know

00:32:28.980 --> 00:32:33.740
what I mean? So it's like, I just made it. Better.

00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.859
I mean, it's his voice that really takes it.

00:32:39.099 --> 00:32:42.299
And then this time around, I was like, I'm going

00:32:42.299 --> 00:32:45.480
to put the producing side in someone else's hands

00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.880
and let my baby go to somebody else. It's really

00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.720
hard for me, right? But I've learned a valuable

00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.039
lesson. We reached out to a producer named Robbie.

00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.200
He's out of Bronzeville. and it feels good to

00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.779
be able to give my talented guy very talented

00:33:00.779 --> 00:33:05.420
and he added pizzazz to it so the song the successfulness

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:08.440
of the song is a lot to him as well because even

00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:11.839
though he didn't he just added a little thing

00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.319
here a little thing here right rose this up brought

00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.880
that down right and it wasn't a little bit different

00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.559
so I'm able to let go a little bit now you know

00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:27.059
it's hard it's hard it's harder therapy we'll

00:33:27.059 --> 00:33:29.000
get right back to it I got one question here

00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:30.460
from Jacinto we'll answer it in the second half

00:33:30.460 --> 00:33:33.299
of the show he's asking uh growing up did you

00:33:33.299 --> 00:33:36.700
both like the same jams or you all were totally

00:33:36.700 --> 00:33:37.980
different and we'll answer that question when

00:33:37.980 --> 00:33:39.460
we get back in just a minute Jacinto because

00:33:39.460 --> 00:33:45.680
we got our sponsors to thank also because we

00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.180
got some sponsors to take care so hang in there

00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:49.660
let's take a quick commercial break and we're

00:33:49.660 --> 00:33:57.660
right back give me one sec yeah we're back and

00:33:57.660 --> 00:33:59.140
we're talking a lot of stuff right now in the

00:33:59.140 --> 00:34:01.619
background you can only hear what we're talking

00:34:01.619 --> 00:34:07.420
about we get in trouble but we're coming back

00:34:07.420 --> 00:34:10.909
with the brothers here from ruin cross right

00:34:10.909 --> 00:34:12.849
okay got it right still not saying it right shut

00:34:12.849 --> 00:34:16.010
up dude but uh we were uh coming back to the

00:34:16.010 --> 00:34:18.570
question hasito had asked is growing up did you

00:34:18.570 --> 00:34:22.809
both like the same jams or we all totally different

00:34:22.809 --> 00:34:27.670
we jammed the same stuff so i mean uh we you

00:34:27.670 --> 00:34:30.190
know some of my fondest memories when we were

00:34:30.190 --> 00:34:32.269
younger like probably in sixth grade was like

00:34:32.269 --> 00:34:37.099
listening to uh Green Day Dookie album and the

00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:40.440
Queen's greatest hits, you know, yeah, and you

00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:43.260
know life they would we've always had like the

00:34:43.260 --> 00:34:46.940
same taste of music and Our mom had a big factor

00:34:46.940 --> 00:34:48.780
with that too because my mom listened to all

00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:53.280
the 80s all that good stuff and even now Disco

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.019
like now we love this, you know, we're working

00:34:56.019 --> 00:35:04.579
on a cover. We want to do Bee Gees tragedy Because

00:35:04.579 --> 00:35:08.119
growing up with our stepdad, you know our cultures

00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.059
brutal. What are you doing the weekend Cowboys

00:35:10.059 --> 00:35:18.619
game and barbecue? We didn't notice at the time

00:35:18.619 --> 00:35:21.460
that that was also what I know and I like yeah

00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:24.789
But man, let me tell you, that has influenced

00:35:24.789 --> 00:35:27.929
us so much. You know what I mean? Like all the

00:35:27.929 --> 00:35:31.789
synths that they use and those times, oh man,

00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:36.510
it's really influential for us as well. The synths

00:35:36.510 --> 00:35:39.369
that we bought used have been from like ex Tejano

00:35:39.369 --> 00:35:42.710
band members years ago. Like the presets and

00:35:42.710 --> 00:35:45.510
like the other day I found like... With like,

00:35:45.630 --> 00:35:47.650
it sounds like Grupo Mas and stuff. And we even

00:35:47.650 --> 00:35:49.969
tried to think about covering Grupo Mas, you

00:35:49.969 --> 00:35:51.389
know, so... That would be pretty cool, man. That

00:35:51.389 --> 00:35:53.210
would be cool. You want to do my top with that,

00:35:53.210 --> 00:35:55.730
eh? Yeah. Yeah, with this dark and heavy sound,

00:35:56.230 --> 00:35:58.389
so... That would be something really interesting.

00:35:58.510 --> 00:36:00.489
So like, we say, hey, I said, I was like, yeah,

00:36:00.610 --> 00:36:02.789
man, you playing this music again, but now I'm

00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:04.739
all like... That will definitely get the haters

00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:07.519
to show up, dude. That's really thinking out

00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.320
of the box, man, right there. I mean, when you

00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.059
think about that, it's like what we talked about

00:36:11.059 --> 00:36:14.900
earlier, parodies, man. Anybody who doesn't like

00:36:14.900 --> 00:36:16.260
to do parodies, you don't know what you're missing.

00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.340
Those are the best ones, man. Oh, I got another

00:36:19.340 --> 00:36:21.460
one here from Al. I'm seeing if you could read

00:36:21.460 --> 00:36:24.480
that right there. Hey, Al. What's up, homies?

00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.400
Able and Lee, hells yeah. There you go. They're

00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:28.980
coming in slowly, man. They're coming in slowly.

00:36:29.739 --> 00:36:32.900
Also, Mahi De Hoyos. I think that's from the

00:36:32.900 --> 00:36:36.719
Texas Sweethearts. That is her daughter. Her

00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.000
daughter was my bass player for a long time,

00:36:39.340 --> 00:36:41.460
so their whole family is amazing. Those guys

00:36:41.460 --> 00:36:43.579
are awesome. They were on the show. We had a

00:36:43.579 --> 00:36:45.920
chance to meet them. Those guys rock and roll,

00:36:45.980 --> 00:36:48.000
so they're awesome people. Big shout out to them.

00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:50.659
There's nothing better than having a bunch of

00:36:50.659 --> 00:36:53.780
girls singing Ring of Fire in Spanish on your...

00:36:53.789 --> 00:36:56.070
couch while you're videotaping them. Absolutely.

00:36:56.510 --> 00:36:59.489
And in Spanish, that was so awesome too. I used

00:36:59.489 --> 00:37:02.769
to work at Paradise Drone House, so Mari used

00:37:02.769 --> 00:37:05.230
to go play there with her band and stuff. Oh,

00:37:05.329 --> 00:37:08.610
okay. Yeah. She would sing a Gold Luck Woman

00:37:08.610 --> 00:37:13.690
from Fleetwood. Yes, yes, yeah. There's so many

00:37:13.690 --> 00:37:16.650
talented musicians here in the RGV is that we've

00:37:16.650 --> 00:37:18.710
talked about this too a lot that's yet to be

00:37:18.710 --> 00:37:22.309
really tapped into uh by the i mean i have to

00:37:22.309 --> 00:37:25.309
say it's not big down here but like the larger

00:37:25.309 --> 00:37:28.789
industries north of texas you know uh i know

00:37:28.789 --> 00:37:30.769
there's a lot of performers right now that are

00:37:30.769 --> 00:37:34.110
venturing out and doing farewell out there uh

00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:37.170
and they say bro if anybody who's a local musician

00:37:37.170 --> 00:37:39.030
needs to venture out of the valley for a little

00:37:39.030 --> 00:37:45.110
while but uh is it somewhat for you guys to actually

00:37:45.110 --> 00:37:48.139
stay close to home and make This your foundation

00:37:48.139 --> 00:37:51.000
home before you step out our our motto is 95

00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:54.420
synth I mean, that's our arm thing is we are

00:37:54.420 --> 00:37:55.960
drawing how we describe. What do you play? We

00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.360
play 95 since we're very Valley pride proud and

00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.059
I think that this is always gonna be home to

00:38:01.059 --> 00:38:05.489
us Always. We are very fortunate. One of our

00:38:05.489 --> 00:38:07.730
biggest inspirations are not even big bands,

00:38:08.530 --> 00:38:10.250
or what you would say, quote unquote, famous

00:38:10.250 --> 00:38:13.230
bands. A lot of the local people, there's a guy

00:38:13.230 --> 00:38:16.610
from West Loco, Jaime Martinez, that was in my

00:38:16.610 --> 00:38:18.510
black metal band that was a little bit older

00:38:18.510 --> 00:38:21.230
than us. I had never seen somebody so good at

00:38:21.230 --> 00:38:24.710
their instrument. And so he deeply inspired me.

00:38:24.710 --> 00:38:27.010
He talked about Robert Ganales. When I talked

00:38:27.010 --> 00:38:30.550
about production, he has a first studio called

00:38:30.550 --> 00:38:33.639
Red Barn than I had ever been. As an 18 year

00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.840
old, 19 year old kid, that is life -changing.

00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.079
So we have friends that also change. We got a

00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:42.539
friend named Franco Chavez from Wizard Wolf out

00:38:42.539 --> 00:38:47.019
of Harlingen. Original music, so we're inspired

00:38:47.019 --> 00:38:51.059
by a lot of our mutual friends. Our peers. The

00:38:51.059 --> 00:38:53.579
biggest goth band is from the valley right now.

00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.769
We have one of the best... Rock and roll black

00:38:58.769 --> 00:39:00.650
rock. What's it called? Black and roll bands

00:39:00.650 --> 00:39:04.510
right now is automation. I mean, these guys are

00:39:04.510 --> 00:39:08.449
all our friends are leading. Their genre so the

00:39:08.449 --> 00:39:10.590
valley is huge. It's big, you know, and we've

00:39:10.590 --> 00:39:12.650
seen that now because we were not playing a lot

00:39:12.650 --> 00:39:14.869
down here We've been fortunate enough to be continued.

00:39:14.869 --> 00:39:17.329
We're getting asked to play in Austin Houston

00:39:17.329 --> 00:39:19.849
Corpus Christi are there all our shows next month

00:39:19.849 --> 00:39:21.389
are out of the valley we probably won't play

00:39:21.389 --> 00:39:24.309
in the valley until sometime in the winter and

00:39:24.309 --> 00:39:26.869
Yeah, they they're getting a lasting impression

00:39:26.869 --> 00:39:29.510
of the valley because they always say, you know

00:39:29.510 --> 00:39:31.269
We're getting bands from the valley out here

00:39:31.269 --> 00:39:33.989
and they're really we're making it known throughout

00:39:33.989 --> 00:39:38.429
the state This place has always been very full

00:39:38.429 --> 00:39:41.210
of talented people. There's a lot of talent down

00:39:41.210 --> 00:39:45.489
here and I'm also happy that Grupo Frontera is

00:39:45.489 --> 00:39:48.750
getting known because that's attention that maybe

00:39:48.750 --> 00:39:51.090
major labels will be paying attention down here.

00:39:52.469 --> 00:39:56.530
Everyone has a chance. It's insane that there's

00:39:56.530 --> 00:39:59.010
so many younger bands now that are just doing

00:39:59.010 --> 00:40:02.099
stuff. It's so cool. Yeah, we've been tripping

00:40:02.099 --> 00:40:05.079
now. We go to shows at the 707 coffee shop in

00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.760
Alamo. Okay. Oh, yes. If you want to feel old,

00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.519
go there. Yeah. And I'm like, these kids... I

00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:13.940
know what you're talking about. These kids, and

00:40:13.940 --> 00:40:18.699
let me tell you, they show up and they get rowdy.

00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:22.940
I mean, they're insane, and I love it. I mean,

00:40:22.940 --> 00:40:27.940
of course, I'm sitting down. But I remember back

00:40:27.940 --> 00:40:33.329
in the day... Get down. Try not to get my boots

00:40:33.329 --> 00:40:37.230
dirty. But yeah, it is so impressive that these

00:40:37.230 --> 00:40:40.909
young kids are really, really taking advantage

00:40:40.909 --> 00:40:43.889
of technology, making it easier to record at

00:40:43.889 --> 00:40:47.849
home and produce your own album. And then they're

00:40:47.849 --> 00:40:50.250
just hungry. And it's good to see that. Because

00:40:50.250 --> 00:40:52.170
when I started off playing in the live scene

00:40:52.170 --> 00:40:54.289
down here in the late 90s, we couldn't even find

00:40:54.289 --> 00:40:57.789
a venue. We had Coolies. Remember Coolies? You're

00:40:57.789 --> 00:41:01.150
preaching to the choir, man. Trenton Point, that

00:41:01.150 --> 00:41:06.070
was it. That was it. The VFW. Smiley's Ballroom,

00:41:06.070 --> 00:41:09.250
man. Yeah, there were all those spots, man. It

00:41:09.250 --> 00:41:12.150
was hard. So we played all genres. It was punk,

00:41:12.969 --> 00:41:16.030
hardcore, black metal, death metal, because it

00:41:16.030 --> 00:41:18.949
was like... We all have to play at the venue.

00:41:19.090 --> 00:41:21.170
We only had one Friday out of the month to pick

00:41:21.170 --> 00:41:24.309
a place and we all worked together and that's

00:41:24.309 --> 00:41:25.849
why we were able to meet. That's where I met

00:41:25.849 --> 00:41:30.570
Al Lunacy there through those days. So we grew

00:41:30.570 --> 00:41:34.170
up in the perfect time and seeing everybody change

00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:36.769
what they're doing has been amazing. It's very

00:41:36.769 --> 00:41:41.090
inspiring. Like this past weekend... When we

00:41:41.090 --> 00:41:43.730
played that festival, the South by South Independence

00:41:43.730 --> 00:41:47.409
stuff, it was so awesome walking to and from

00:41:47.409 --> 00:41:50.150
venues and went to go check out our friends that

00:41:50.150 --> 00:41:52.949
are performing. I think that's like... Really

00:41:52.949 --> 00:41:55.309
cool concept. As cheesy as it may sound like,

00:41:55.309 --> 00:41:57.369
oh yeah, whatever you're kissing ass, but it

00:41:57.369 --> 00:42:01.309
is legit. Like, you know, like I did feel inspired.

00:42:01.489 --> 00:42:03.250
I saw my friend, Wizard, who I hadn't seen him

00:42:03.250 --> 00:42:05.230
live in a bit and I messaged him on Facebook.

00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.860
you had like this Aussie energy and the riffs

00:42:09.860 --> 00:42:12.380
are just, you know, I mean it. It's, you know,

00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.500
cause when people tell me that I take it, you

00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:16.780
know, it makes me feel great. So I'm just like,

00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.019
dude, this is all community and we raise awareness

00:42:21.019 --> 00:42:22.960
in the scene and it's going to be beneficial

00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.840
for, you know, this area. It's like, there's

00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.280
so much talent here that it needs to be recognized.

00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:29.699
Yeah. You talk about venues, bro, like, like

00:42:29.699 --> 00:42:33.050
the way you say it's Now being a musician now,

00:42:33.090 --> 00:42:35.949
I mean going back to my age where you guys are

00:42:35.949 --> 00:42:38.909
on the same era You know now it's a lot. I'm

00:42:38.909 --> 00:42:41.090
not saying it's a lot easier I'm just saying

00:42:41.090 --> 00:42:43.489
it's a little bit more convenient now with cell

00:42:43.489 --> 00:42:46.409
phones computers what we're doing right now podcasting

00:42:46.409 --> 00:42:49.730
Interviewing people now back in the day you couldn't

00:42:49.730 --> 00:42:52.030
do that If you were lucky you back in there you

00:42:52.030 --> 00:42:54.230
were lucky you get play it then I'm going way

00:42:54.230 --> 00:42:56.150
back ladies and gentlemen What you're lucky to

00:42:56.150 --> 00:42:58.690
play club X? You were lucky to play at Metropolis.

00:42:58.690 --> 00:43:01.530
You were lucky to play at Graham Central Station.

00:43:01.929 --> 00:43:05.230
You were lucky to play at Simon Says, Smokin'

00:43:05.389 --> 00:43:08.670
Aces and Mission, Fast Eddie's. If you could

00:43:08.670 --> 00:43:11.530
get the cue to play your song after 2 a .m. It

00:43:11.530 --> 00:43:15.389
was amazing. We've actually had the opportunity

00:43:15.389 --> 00:43:18.670
twice to be on the cue and that's awesome. We

00:43:18.670 --> 00:43:20.429
played our stuff on the cue and we made a couple

00:43:20.429 --> 00:43:25.010
fans. Playing our music on the cue was a big

00:43:25.010 --> 00:43:27.550
deal for us at first. before we were even doing

00:43:27.550 --> 00:43:32.210
Much Life shows. It's still a big guy. It is,

00:43:32.210 --> 00:43:34.630
it is because we had Charlie Porter on the podcast

00:43:34.630 --> 00:43:37.170
a couple of years ago and we asked them, we asked

00:43:37.170 --> 00:43:39.150
them a very important question. I go, bro, be

00:43:39.150 --> 00:43:41.949
honest with me, you being a radio DJ for so many

00:43:41.949 --> 00:43:44.510
years, just like Rock & Roll JJ, Sam Daley, Vampire

00:43:44.510 --> 00:43:47.010
King, which we have on the show also, we asked

00:43:47.010 --> 00:43:50.829
that question, do you feel radio is slowly dying

00:43:50.829 --> 00:43:57.059
to... social media to tiktok to spotify to iheart

00:43:57.059 --> 00:44:02.800
radio to uh ipod uh apple radio i mean xm radio

00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.880
also all these radio shows that are done not

00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:07.920
officially that you can hear through your regular

00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.719
radio station program in your vehicle or at home

00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:12.619
now it's everything's through your phone and

00:44:12.619 --> 00:44:15.340
you pick your own list now that's why there's

00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:18.780
so much more variety to pick you know like radio

00:44:18.780 --> 00:44:23.010
is uh Doesn't have the liberties because they're

00:44:23.010 --> 00:44:25.269
a lot of them are owned by major corporations.

00:44:25.289 --> 00:44:29.210
So they don't they're not able to Give a local

00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:31.449
band, you know a shout out and stuff like that.

00:44:31.449 --> 00:44:35.130
It's very unfortunate because you know as beautiful

00:44:35.130 --> 00:44:37.630
as music is and of course money is important

00:44:39.789 --> 00:44:42.630
You know, it kind of gets watered down because

00:44:42.630 --> 00:44:45.530
you know, you don't look the right way, you know

00:44:45.530 --> 00:44:48.170
And that's very true that you you say that and

00:44:48.170 --> 00:44:50.329
that's what i'm saying like back in the day If

00:44:50.329 --> 00:44:52.889
you knew somebody that worked at channel five

00:44:52.889 --> 00:44:55.730
channel four the news stations You might get

00:44:55.730 --> 00:44:57.630
a little segment that'd be on there. You can

00:44:57.630 --> 00:44:59.070
use something about the valemoy star You knew

00:44:59.070 --> 00:45:01.889
somebody at the monitor. You might get a review

00:45:01.889 --> 00:45:05.449
on there if you knew somebody in radio You know,

00:45:06.030 --> 00:45:08.329
you're shooting. You're gonna get in. And that's

00:45:08.329 --> 00:45:10.269
how we were fortunate. We were lucky enough.

00:45:11.049 --> 00:45:14.349
to work with Confused Records early in our career

00:45:14.349 --> 00:45:16.329
and they got us a spot and we were on the queue

00:45:16.329 --> 00:45:18.650
twice, Rock and Roll James. I got to give them

00:45:18.650 --> 00:45:20.829
a shout out for putting us on there and it was

00:45:20.829 --> 00:45:23.389
a whole hour dedicated to us and we appreciate

00:45:23.389 --> 00:45:25.489
it because we were there. Your homegrown underground?

00:45:25.849 --> 00:45:29.309
Yeah. I remember we were, I remember the first

00:45:29.309 --> 00:45:31.170
day they went on there they played the same four

00:45:31.170 --> 00:45:34.230
songs over and over. I think one of them was

00:45:34.230 --> 00:45:37.130
Dream On. Dream Weaver or what? No, Dream On.

00:45:37.489 --> 00:45:40.309
I remember the first day of the queue so to be

00:45:40.139 --> 00:45:44.260
there now years later it was very surreal to

00:45:44.260 --> 00:45:48.300
me to be you know it's the way it's funny how

00:45:48.300 --> 00:45:50.460
you and i understand you know you also understand

00:45:50.460 --> 00:45:53.400
that when you hear your song through a radio

00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.159
in a car or a vehicle you're like shit that's

00:45:56.159 --> 00:46:00.800
me dude it's like explosion you know now it's

00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:08.789
like oh wow yeah you're on the radio the most

00:46:08.789 --> 00:46:11.690
supreme because like you know that's everywhere

00:46:11.690 --> 00:46:14.570
like one of the most beautiful things that it

00:46:14.570 --> 00:46:16.849
might always remember is uh when we i think it

00:46:16.849 --> 00:46:19.170
was the second time we got interviewed by rock

00:46:19.170 --> 00:46:22.170
and roll james on the queue we played our song

00:46:22.170 --> 00:46:24.170
that we wrote for our grandma who had passed

00:46:24.170 --> 00:46:27.469
away and it's not a banger it's a it's like a

00:46:27.469 --> 00:46:31.800
ballad it's so right right But, you know, I had

00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:34.380
a bunch of friends, like, recording it on Facebook,

00:46:34.659 --> 00:46:36.900
and they were just mesmerized by it. They're

00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:40.250
like, this is beautiful. And it's like... That's

00:46:40.250 --> 00:46:42.269
a big audience right could give you know, the

00:46:42.269 --> 00:46:45.050
radio is very powerful, you know I'm glad that

00:46:45.050 --> 00:46:47.110
I don't know if they're still doing stuff like

00:46:47.110 --> 00:46:49.010
that where they're giving local bands to play

00:46:49.010 --> 00:46:51.010
I remember it when he says like hey you call

00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:54.250
in and request. Yes. Yes. Yeah, call the queue.

00:46:58.050 --> 00:47:00.150
It's funny you say that go right now you're saying

00:47:00.150 --> 00:47:01.590
about recording it with your phone. They're gonna

00:47:01.590 --> 00:47:03.690
come on man. Be more authentic, bro. Buy a tape

00:47:03.690 --> 00:47:20.019
recorder, bro. Come on Yeah, man, it's it's something

00:47:20.019 --> 00:47:22.219
that in our time period it was like something

00:47:22.219 --> 00:47:24.960
like wow, you know, it's amazing We're on we're

00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:26.440
on radio and nothing sounds better when you listen

00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:29.360
to our radio because it's something in our era

00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.500
that like when you hear it there It's still very

00:47:32.500 --> 00:47:34.519
powerful. We made it, man. We made it. We finally

00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.960
got on the radio. It's like, you know, the musicians

00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.079
before us, like, I want to be on the radio. Now

00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.340
it's just that we have more opportunities, like

00:47:42.340 --> 00:47:45.280
podcasts and stuff like that, which is equally

00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.940
as beautiful, you know what I mean? But radio

00:47:47.940 --> 00:47:49.780
is supreme, you know what I mean? That's such

00:47:49.780 --> 00:47:53.679
a space, man. That's right. Shout out to Mars.

00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.559
What is this peculiar music coming from? And

00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.099
the only regret is, you know, I wish we could

00:48:00.099 --> 00:48:02.679
have done Johnny Canales, you know? Yeah, that's

00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.320
another big one, too. I want to take it away.

00:48:04.579 --> 00:48:07.280
You know what I mean? I want to be on the white

00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.920
line. Come on, man. I came out on Johnny Canales

00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:13.619
one time. You did? Yeah. Not performing. I remember

00:48:13.619 --> 00:48:15.679
my mom took us in this. I hated that kind of

00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:17.840
music. You know, so I was like messing around.

00:48:18.019 --> 00:48:20.539
Preach. And underneath my seat, I was like, what

00:48:20.539 --> 00:48:21.960
the hell is this? This is a sticker. Then at

00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.869
the end of the show, like, everybody. Check underneath

00:48:24.869 --> 00:48:27.730
your seat if there's a sticker, you win a prize,

00:48:27.989 --> 00:48:30.030
and my mom looks at me and I'll have all these

00:48:30.030 --> 00:49:00.840
pieces of the sticker all... Oh no! Just for

00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.860
your information, I know Rick Phoenix Mazuna's

00:49:02.860 --> 00:49:05.099
watches and what's up, bro Another gentleman

00:49:05.099 --> 00:49:07.539
who's I think he should sign up his podcast soon

00:49:07.539 --> 00:49:10.239
again already Rock Revolution That's gonna be

00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.079
coming out another one. I would love for you

00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:16.199
guys to really get to know is with Julian He

00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:18.539
has a show going I keep a key control nosotros

00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.360
I know their show is starting up this week again.

00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.619
They'll be available on I believe he said the

00:49:23.619 --> 00:49:27.179
CW and Univision Their show will be every Sunday

00:49:27.179 --> 00:49:29.460
mornings now, but I'll get him more information

00:49:29.460 --> 00:49:31.300
You might want to look for him because he's always

00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:33.559
looking for fresh talent down here That's something

00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:35.579
that we would that would be awesome. Now that

00:49:35.579 --> 00:49:50.320
you'll be on TV To me, any opportunity is just

00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:52.800
I love music so much. So I'm just like, hey,

00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.539
I want to do whatever, you know, whatever is

00:49:55.539 --> 00:49:57.639
available. Yeah. I hear you. I hear you. You

00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:59.280
know, just as long as there's an opportunity

00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.699
to play or, you know, gaining a new friend or

00:50:02.699 --> 00:50:06.699
a fan. It's all worth it. All those connections.

00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.380
I know for a fact on Saturday when we played,

00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:12.539
like a lot of those people hadn't heard us, but

00:50:12.539 --> 00:50:14.619
then they're like they got invested into it.

00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.119
Yeah. i was like that's awesome it's like i said

00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:18.820
the first time i heard it mingo is the one who

00:50:18.820 --> 00:50:20.460
showed it to me man and when i first heard it

00:50:20.460 --> 00:50:23.980
i heard that and i was like dude start it over

00:50:23.980 --> 00:50:25.539
again don't want to hear this again and i go

00:50:25.539 --> 00:50:27.179
are you sure they go yeah they're from here from

00:50:27.179 --> 00:50:29.539
the valley dude they're from west let go i go

00:50:29.539 --> 00:50:32.760
bro i'm not gonna lie to you man this sounds

00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.079
like the pesh mode to me dude goes right i go

00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:36.900
dude i don't know man it's just freaking me out

00:50:36.900 --> 00:50:39.820
right now and they're from here like holy crap

00:50:39.820 --> 00:50:43.440
wow why am i not introduced this is the reason

00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.630
why Radio needs to make a huge comeback and stuff

00:50:47.630 --> 00:50:49.949
not I know you have your load your artists that

00:50:49.949 --> 00:50:52.389
are up there making millions and Millions and

00:50:52.389 --> 00:50:54.210
you're not helping piola. By the way, if you

00:50:54.210 --> 00:50:57.050
hear me speaking out to you in some of these

00:50:57.050 --> 00:51:01.190
Great artists that that are non -contracted They're

00:51:01.190 --> 00:51:02.989
trying to burst out who maybe have their own

00:51:02.989 --> 00:51:04.849
record label own studio that are trying to break

00:51:04.849 --> 00:51:07.510
out You got to give them a chance, you know,

00:51:07.510 --> 00:51:10.449
everybody will well money talks bullshit walks,

00:51:10.650 --> 00:51:12.989
right? I understand that I understand but sometimes

00:51:12.989 --> 00:51:15.440
you got a bite the bullet and say, you know what?

00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:17.579
I want to try this. I want to see what these

00:51:17.579 --> 00:51:19.360
guys can do for my radio show. And there's a

00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.920
lot of pirate radio shows online that you can

00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.239
throw your stuff out there and they'll pick it

00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.139
up quick. I know there was one here all over

00:51:25.139 --> 00:51:27.679
the place. I know there was an old pirate radio

00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.219
station, Al Luna's back like in the 90s or, you

00:51:31.219 --> 00:51:33.300
know, I think Al told us the story. It is streaming

00:51:33.300 --> 00:51:35.579
on YouTube right now, actually also. And then

00:51:35.579 --> 00:51:38.159
I got also sorry, but it is beautiful. Like if

00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:41.280
we could pirate radio, let's do it. I got a Nikki

00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:43.780
Casa to saying, what's that Lily being saying?

00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:49.460
Hi, that's my baby. My dog. She wants my job.

00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:56.719
Block her. The most beautiful thing about our

00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:00.219
experience is that. My daughter is 16, she grew

00:52:00.219 --> 00:52:03.820
up with a home studio. She grew up with musicians

00:52:03.820 --> 00:52:06.900
in and out of the house. I got three little ones

00:52:06.900 --> 00:52:08.960
that grew up. So they're in the studio, we'll

00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:10.980
be rehearsing, they're in and out, they're singing,

00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:12.860
they know our songs. They know all the words.

00:52:12.860 --> 00:52:17.099
They know the words. And to me, that is... the

00:52:17.099 --> 00:52:19.239
most like just it's epic yeah and that's right

00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:22.800
i was with my daughter who's eight and she asked

00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.579
for a necessary loss she said can you put on

00:52:24.579 --> 00:52:26.400
necessary loss that i was like okay i'm gonna

00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.260
just listen to it and they vibe to it and to

00:52:29.260 --> 00:52:31.960
me that's it's funny because i have a stepson

00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.920
and And they get along. Lily, his youngest, and

00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:37.860
my stepson, and they're both the same age. I

00:52:37.860 --> 00:52:40.480
was like, they're going to make a band. They're

00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.840
going to be called cousins. It's going to be

00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:46.219
epic. I was like, if we don't make it, they will.

00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:50.800
RuneCross Junior. They're going to make TikTok

00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.840
versions of all these songs. Yeah, that'd be

00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.579
awesome. That's all you need. And that's the

00:52:55.579 --> 00:52:58.639
next question I have. And a lot of people, since

00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.579
we've been, I've been really putting out a lot

00:53:00.579 --> 00:53:05.039
of content now with the Muppets and stuff and

00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:06.679
cartoons, a lot of help. You can stop doing that.

00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.440
I love it, dude. It's fucking awesome. I love

00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.719
it. They need a job now. They do need a job.

00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:18.500
They need to live. They got Muppet bills. Damn

00:53:18.500 --> 00:53:21.539
right. You got you got a big Willie son, you

00:53:21.539 --> 00:53:26.039
know what intrigues on what but uh Doing your

00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:29.760
music I mean has any of the have you ever let

00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.500
the rains go to let the young ones? Make your

00:53:32.500 --> 00:53:37.289
own video through AI Have you heard? thought

00:53:37.289 --> 00:53:39.090
of that because i've tried with my son i tried

00:53:39.090 --> 00:53:41.409
giving him some old songs from my old band they

00:53:41.409 --> 00:53:46.809
go here try it and he was like nah cringe they

00:53:46.809 --> 00:53:50.090
don't really you know they're phone they're still

00:53:50.090 --> 00:53:52.090
little so they don't have a lot of phone you'd

00:53:52.090 --> 00:53:55.730
be surprised dude you'd be surprised my oldest

00:53:55.730 --> 00:53:58.070
niece like she's very creative she's pictures

00:53:58.070 --> 00:54:01.250
draws and she writes poetry and like to me i

00:54:01.250 --> 00:54:05.289
was like i've done my job as an uncle KMTL private

00:54:05.289 --> 00:54:08.320
pirate radio from Nice man, that's awesome. Like

00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.000
I said, we do have the triple B next door who

00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:13.679
do probably radio also, but it's on mixed clouds.

00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:17.019
So you ever get a chance to do that? Yes, let

00:54:17.019 --> 00:54:20.480
them go. Just give them a loan. They get to pick

00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:23.280
the top 10. Shut up, dude. Don't go that shit

00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.780
again. They let you pick your top 10, and you

00:54:27.780 --> 00:54:30.840
tell them a story why you like that top 10, and

00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:32.840
they go from there. Songs of whatever you want.

00:54:33.099 --> 00:54:34.940
I would love that. Yeah, so there'll be something

00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:36.420
interesting. You could probably put your song

00:54:36.420 --> 00:54:44.099
as number one if you want. But yeah, I mean,

00:54:44.420 --> 00:54:47.599
because I've seen a lot of, I know, popular loner.

00:54:48.090 --> 00:54:51.170
at the time of Freddy Honda and it's Detroit,

00:54:51.929 --> 00:54:53.989
when they did release, I can't remember the song,

00:54:54.010 --> 00:54:55.650
I think it was Bleed, is it Bleed? I'm not sure

00:54:55.650 --> 00:54:57.769
which song it was. They started up the whole

00:54:57.769 --> 00:55:00.590
AI thing real quick with the whole changing the

00:55:00.590 --> 00:55:03.349
faces to skulls. The video was, it was just amazing.

00:55:03.469 --> 00:55:06.710
To me, that was my introduction to holy crap,

00:55:06.789 --> 00:55:08.969
here we go. This is where the game changer's

00:55:08.969 --> 00:55:12.610
coming. You know, you guys. Coming off doing

00:55:12.610 --> 00:55:14.550
I know you have most of your songs already Do

00:55:14.550 --> 00:55:16.650
you all plan to do something like maybe a mini

00:55:16.650 --> 00:55:18.730
size video? Because I know you guys freaked out

00:55:18.730 --> 00:55:21.530
when I put the when I put the wave on your on

00:55:21.530 --> 00:55:23.250
your animal How I started waving in colors and

00:55:23.250 --> 00:55:25.690
stuff like that. You're like, dude, that is awesome.

00:55:25.690 --> 00:55:29.289
I go hey, man, don't do it. No, it is cool But

00:55:29.289 --> 00:55:32.070
like I think our first music video like we've

00:55:32.070 --> 00:55:34.329
had an idea about it And so like we're gonna

00:55:34.329 --> 00:55:37.269
shoot it like we've had it. We have some people

00:55:38.259 --> 00:55:41.559
Our friends that we did the movie of John and

00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:45.059
his wife They've you know, they do movies they

00:55:45.059 --> 00:55:46.940
act and stuff like this. So we have people you

00:55:46.940 --> 00:55:50.360
know, we want to make like a Kind of a good video,

00:55:50.500 --> 00:55:52.320
you know, like kind of movies, you know what

00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.960
the We have an idea that we've been working with.

00:55:55.219 --> 00:55:57.539
I'm not opposed to it. I mean, whatever, you

00:55:57.539 --> 00:55:59.659
know, but I just haven't gotten there yet, you

00:55:59.659 --> 00:56:02.519
know, as far as that. I use AI to be like, how

00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:07.940
can I make money fast? Rule number one, get a

00:56:07.940 --> 00:56:11.800
job. Yeah, I'm not playing with AI no more. It's

00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.739
coming. I know we've yet to, you know, get there

00:56:14.739 --> 00:56:18.579
yet, but, you know, it's something that, you

00:56:18.579 --> 00:56:20.179
know, I'm not opposed to. I mean, if it makes

00:56:20.179 --> 00:56:23.780
it easier, yeah. And I'm gonna throw my my two

00:56:23.780 --> 00:56:25.780
cents in there. Would you be opposed of somebody

00:56:25.780 --> 00:56:27.780
doing something with your music and make it into

00:56:27.780 --> 00:56:31.119
an AI? But crossing through you guys first before

00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:38.739
posting no puppets Whatever to us, I mean we've

00:56:38.739 --> 00:56:42.440
had people do things like that Little videos

00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.019
little things they put in the background our

00:56:45.019 --> 00:56:47.179
music and by all means I mean whatever because

00:56:47.179 --> 00:56:50.090
what if that video you have you have access to

00:56:50.090 --> 00:56:52.489
somebody that we don't have access to right right

00:56:52.489 --> 00:56:54.769
and you never know who that person might be and

00:56:54.769 --> 00:56:57.329
they go tell somebody and and we get messages

00:56:57.329 --> 00:56:59.590
all that all the time from some random people

00:56:59.590 --> 00:57:02.230
say i was at a barbecue and they had your music

00:57:02.230 --> 00:57:04.170
i asked who it is i have no i don't know who

00:57:04.170 --> 00:57:06.349
you have no clue who it was welcome they're like

00:57:06.349 --> 00:57:08.570
we didn't even know this kind of music existed

00:57:08.570 --> 00:57:11.909
down here in the valley right so right yeah so

00:57:11.909 --> 00:57:14.809
we got people remixing other artists that are

00:57:14.809 --> 00:57:18.820
remixing Our music and and so go by our means,

00:57:18.820 --> 00:57:22.739
you know Our website you could get the stems

00:57:22.739 --> 00:57:25.760
to do your own remix Really? Yeah. Yeah, we have

00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.519
we have necessary loss broken down kick drum

00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.139
snare like every single Wow broken down To where

00:57:32.139 --> 00:57:35.719
you can download them safely and meet off a media

00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.079
fire and you can do with I will with it remix

00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:41.389
it just tag us in it You know what I mean? That's

00:57:41.389 --> 00:57:43.150
awesome. That's good. That's good to know. That's

00:57:43.150 --> 00:57:44.570
awesome. Thank you so much for sharing that.

00:57:45.190 --> 00:57:46.849
We just all love creativity. You know, Arte is

00:57:46.849 --> 00:57:49.050
Vila and this, you know, the world's all crazy.

00:57:49.170 --> 00:57:52.289
So the art's beautiful. You know, we want to

00:57:52.289 --> 00:57:55.309
be a distraction for that. You know, let your

00:57:55.309 --> 00:57:57.869
catharsis for your emotions and feelings, you

00:57:57.869 --> 00:58:00.550
know, because when we go up on stage, you know,

00:58:00.650 --> 00:58:03.909
we're just two people, but there's a lot of emotions

00:58:03.909 --> 00:58:07.349
behind it. And, you know, when I sing, I like

00:58:07.349 --> 00:58:10.239
I sing with my heart, you know, I'm So nervous

00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:12.460
when I, you know, when I'm getting ready for,

00:58:12.579 --> 00:58:15.960
I get anxious and stuff and usually, you know,

00:58:16.099 --> 00:58:18.539
I don't know why I just get anxious and nervous,

00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:21.519
but I just do it, you know? I'm there dry heaving

00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:25.039
on the way to every show. I know the feeling.

00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.019
And we've done it a hundred times and it's never

00:58:29.019 --> 00:58:35.079
going to go away. It's a ritual. It's a genuine

00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:37.400
feeling, you know, so we're like putting ourselves

00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:39.559
out there. We're just like, we're naked up there,

00:58:39.619 --> 00:58:41.960
you know, we're... Not literally, people. Don't

00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:45.079
go there. They say they will be naked on stage.

00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.920
We have to go in the... Hey, the hat stays on,

00:58:50.539 --> 00:58:57.420
okay? We're vulnerable and we, you know, that

00:58:57.420 --> 00:58:59.539
art's a beautiful thing. It's full of passion

00:58:59.539 --> 00:59:02.679
and you know, it's like a drug and I just get,

00:59:02.780 --> 00:59:04.960
you know, we're in there. It's a high, pretty

00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.320
much. We're in there like, you know, it's not

00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.440
just a half -assing or anything. It's like, we

00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.780
live it. This is, you know. genuine and Emotions

00:59:14.780 --> 00:59:16.920
that we're putting out there right thing like

00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:20.619
there's a lot of time especially like In the

00:59:20.619 --> 00:59:22.940
beginning, you know where I was especially like

00:59:22.940 --> 00:59:25.179
when we wrote this song for our grandma crying,

00:59:25.179 --> 00:59:28.119
you know, it's like right now Yeah, the emotional

00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.199
the emotions of it. Yeah, I think she had called

00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:32.579
us, you know before she passed she was able to

00:59:32.579 --> 00:59:34.840
call us and I remember hearing her voice at 5

00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.889
in the morning and I was like You know, so when

00:59:37.889 --> 00:59:40.590
I sing that song I'm like invoking that energy

00:59:40.590 --> 00:59:43.530
and right, you know She was kind of like a bruja.

00:59:43.710 --> 00:59:46.389
So all that stuff follows me to some real connected

00:59:46.389 --> 00:59:49.949
with all that stuff. So I just feel real Vulnerable

00:59:49.949 --> 00:59:52.630
but powerful and it's just right, you know, I

00:59:52.630 --> 00:59:55.670
just hope that people like it and right right.

00:59:56.190 --> 00:59:58.670
Yeah Well that we've come to the part of the

00:59:58.670 --> 01:00:03.880
show where I know you guys are brothers now I've

01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:05.519
had so many adventures with my brother growing

01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:09.539
up. There's always one story that stick out sticks

01:00:09.539 --> 01:00:14.360
out We're growing up together. You guys did something

01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:19.460
like oh, we're lucky We're lucky mom and dad

01:00:19.460 --> 01:00:25.889
didn't catch us doing this Oh no, turn it up,

01:00:26.030 --> 01:00:29.110
turn it up, post it on Facebook. No, it's horrible

01:00:29.110 --> 01:00:31.989
because he let the cat out of the bag and was

01:00:31.989 --> 01:00:38.489
like, I still live with my mom. We barbecued,

01:00:38.489 --> 01:00:40.130
my mom would come over and we were like, when

01:00:40.130 --> 01:00:41.909
we were kids and she, you guys did that. I'm

01:00:41.909 --> 01:00:44.409
like, yeah. And because I'm out of April was

01:00:44.409 --> 01:00:45.730
still there at the time where they're just like,

01:00:45.769 --> 01:00:47.449
I got to live with this. I got to go back in

01:00:47.449 --> 01:00:51.530
here. I can't believe you guys did that. Well,

01:00:52.349 --> 01:00:55.860
you gotta give us one. Give us one story. One.

01:00:56.139 --> 01:00:58.119
One, you don't have to go too graphic. You have

01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:01.519
to go too hardcore. I don't want to hear dead

01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:04.300
bodies or anything like that. Something that,

01:01:04.300 --> 01:01:06.880
you know, you're like, man, I don't know what

01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:09.360
we're thinking. At the time. You're going to

01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.619
get that in trouble, dude. Maybe. I hope no one

01:01:13.619 --> 01:01:17.760
from my job is this guy. Guys that know this

01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:19.539
gentleman, turn off your camera and everything

01:01:19.539 --> 01:01:23.780
you got there. With us growing up, you know,

01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:26.579
we grew up in. in a really great time, the late

01:01:26.579 --> 01:01:29.880
90s, and our mom was going to school full -time,

01:01:30.059 --> 01:01:32.639
working full -time, my stepdad worked, graveyard.

01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:35.019
So me and my brother grew up completely with

01:01:35.019 --> 01:01:41.659
no adult supervision whatsoever. And we would

01:01:41.659 --> 01:01:44.570
walk around, you know. we got some spray paints

01:01:44.570 --> 01:01:48.050
and we walk around tagging and then I remember

01:01:48.050 --> 01:01:50.510
we would go to the hard to harlem block part

01:01:50.510 --> 01:01:55.530
and and Saturday we found out that underneath

01:01:55.530 --> 01:02:00.489
the home plate is a sprinkler system oh no we

01:02:00.489 --> 01:02:03.250
would put that water sprinkler open so when the

01:02:03.250 --> 01:02:06.849
next thing the kids had Baseball. Shoot. That

01:02:06.849 --> 01:02:08.409
field would be flooded. You're the reason my

01:02:08.409 --> 01:02:10.829
little league game doesn't end. So you were the

01:02:10.829 --> 01:02:16.230
one. You owe me 50 bucks. We were bad. Like I

01:02:16.230 --> 01:02:19.469
said, we grew up around this here. This area,

01:02:19.710 --> 01:02:22.869
we were just... It's my hood. Remember, this

01:02:22.869 --> 01:02:26.429
was like Mid Valley Bank and stuff like that.

01:02:27.740 --> 01:02:31.219
Me and my other brother we like time the lights

01:02:31.219 --> 01:02:48.239
while he like spray -painted Oh And you know

01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:57.039
we played We saw the pond. We lived right by

01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.239
it. We lived on 7th Street by bike. Don't give

01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:27.099
your address on it! Guys rule number one as a

01:03:27.099 --> 01:03:28.920
podcaster never ask questions like that ever

01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:34.429
again PG stuff, so. That's good, let's keep it

01:03:34.429 --> 01:03:36.469
off PG, right? Let's talk about the dead bodies

01:03:36.469 --> 01:03:39.010
after. That'll be the second time you guys come

01:03:39.010 --> 01:03:46.889
back. Won't mention the felony I had. Guys, give

01:03:46.889 --> 01:03:48.630
out all your social medias, man, so these guys

01:03:48.630 --> 01:03:50.849
can follow you wherever you guys are at. That

01:03:50.849 --> 01:03:52.429
way they can keep in touch with you guys. We're

01:03:52.429 --> 01:03:55.110
going cross .com and that's where you can find

01:03:55.110 --> 01:03:57.190
all our stuff. Everything, all the links, that's

01:03:57.190 --> 01:04:03.380
R -U -I -N -K -R -O -S. It gives you all the

01:04:03.380 --> 01:04:05.260
links to everything that we're doing, our show,

01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:07.659
where our shows are at, what's coming up, our

01:04:07.659 --> 01:04:11.460
schedule, and our apology to the Little League

01:04:11.460 --> 01:04:26.670
of 1996. PD said come give us an award. Thanks

01:04:26.670 --> 01:04:33.309
to you. We don't want the award Guys all I can

01:04:33.309 --> 01:04:36.590
say is that uh Thank you so much coming out to

01:04:36.590 --> 01:04:38.889
the podcast. It's been an hour and eight six

01:04:38.889 --> 01:04:46.489
minutes man. We flew by Trust me we can but this

01:04:46.489 --> 01:04:50.539
one has a bedtime How do I? It's two minutes

01:04:50.539 --> 01:04:53.539
past, or hours past my bed. We really appreciate

01:04:53.539 --> 01:04:57.300
it. We haven't been in a podcast in a bit, and

01:04:57.300 --> 01:04:59.980
this is a beautiful set up you guys got here.

01:04:59.980 --> 01:05:01.340
Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

01:05:01.340 --> 01:05:04.880
you. Amazing stuff, and we're honored to be a

01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:06.980
part of it. I know you've played our music before,

01:05:07.139 --> 01:05:10.760
so we appreciate that. You'll keep doing this

01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:13.179
supporting the scene. That's amazing. And you're

01:05:13.179 --> 01:05:15.059
doing a great job. Beautiful spot. Thank you

01:05:15.059 --> 01:05:17.159
so much. Thank you. We appreciate that. Next

01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:18.760
time you come, this thing won't be here. So it'll

01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:21.440
be even more beautiful. I'm going to be here

01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:24.079
forever now. Well, no, I'll just bring your leg.

01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.239
You'll be fine. Oh, yeah, that's true. But yeah,

01:05:27.340 --> 01:05:30.599
follow us on, you know, we're on RuinCross .com

01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:34.340
and we're also on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook.

01:05:36.019 --> 01:05:38.079
Find out about our upcoming events and things?

01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.460
Yep. We got a bunch of cool things coming up.

01:05:42.059 --> 01:05:44.360
We got a big show coming up in November that

01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.860
will be promoted. We haven't officially set the

01:05:46.860 --> 01:05:49.000
things yet, but we're bringing a band from Houston

01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:52.019
with another local band. We're putting together

01:05:52.019 --> 01:05:54.659
a show, so hopefully it will end the year. Like

01:05:54.659 --> 01:05:58.639
our Dark Waves scene will have a little badass

01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:02.000
show at the end of the year. Out there in Brownsville

01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.400
awesome awesome We'll look forward to as soon

01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:06.239
as that's available when you release the date

01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:08.300
make sure you hit us up We will toss it on our

01:06:08.300 --> 01:06:10.440
Facebook page and all our social medias Though

01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:12.659
everybody can get a chance to see exactly when

01:06:12.659 --> 01:06:15.039
and where you guys are playing and performing

01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.039
or if you guys just want to talk to us about

01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:25.559
more of the evil stuff philosophy I believe it

01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:28.760
give us a call yeah yeah but now like I said

01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:30.420
once again just keep doing what you guys are

01:06:30.420 --> 01:06:33.280
doing keep processing great music and like I

01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:36.010
said he had never heard you guys before I put

01:06:36.010 --> 01:06:37.929
it I put the music on Tuesday night we're about

01:06:37.929 --> 01:06:39.989
to leave or before we start the pot actually

01:06:39.989 --> 01:06:42.969
and he was listening to go bro I can actually

01:06:42.969 --> 01:06:44.969
just relax and just listen to this all night

01:06:44.969 --> 01:06:48.010
I go yeah it's very relaxing I love this it takes

01:06:48.010 --> 01:06:51.530
me back it takes me back when I was back into

01:06:51.530 --> 01:06:53.429
eighth grade ninth grade years man listening

01:06:53.429 --> 01:06:55.429
to this kind of music and that's cool y 'all

01:06:55.429 --> 01:06:59.010
mentioned uh that what's it metropolis or stuff

01:06:59.010 --> 01:07:02.070
metropolis that was at metropolis was actually

01:07:02.070 --> 01:07:05.670
club x club x like uh i don't know anything box

01:07:05.670 --> 01:07:08.690
like we opened up for anything box a box a they're

01:07:08.690 --> 01:07:10.809
from the ages they were real big they he would

01:07:10.809 --> 01:07:14.349
come over here so like that's our our vibes yeah

01:07:14.349 --> 01:07:16.230
y 'all guys like that stuff y 'all love us there

01:07:16.230 --> 01:07:18.489
you go hell yeah once again guys thank you so

01:07:18.489 --> 01:07:20.150
much for coming out man we appreciate you taking

01:07:20.150 --> 01:07:21.750
the time out here having a little fun with us

01:07:21.750 --> 01:07:26.199
here uh i just uh nothing but Good wishes to

01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:27.760
you guys, man. Hopefully you guys continue doing

01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:29.900
what you're doing. And the next time we talk,

01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:33.019
she probably playing a huge. venue somewhere

01:07:33.019 --> 01:07:35.699
in north of texas or maybe somewhere else man

01:07:35.699 --> 01:07:38.880
you guys better take our calls when you make

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:40.460
it big you better tell us you tell about you

01:07:40.460 --> 01:07:44.139
in our podcast i'm gonna put the contact pictures

01:07:44.139 --> 01:07:46.860
of muppet there you go that'll work we'll do

01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:50.239
that that sounds perfect no but thank you once

01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:51.639
again guys for coming out with us man having

01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:53.199
a little fun with us man and appreciate it and

01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:55.679
thank you to the guys that chimed in and yes

01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:58.579
thank you guys appreciate that so much thank

01:07:58.579 --> 01:08:00.780
you so much guys appreciate it thank you be kind

01:08:00.780 --> 01:08:03.179
to each other and yourselves guys. There you

01:08:03.179 --> 01:08:05.639
go, there you go. Oh no, not the ugly thing there.

01:08:05.860 --> 01:08:08.320
Okay, there it is. Now guys, I just want to say

01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:09.780
thank you to everybody for tuning in tonight.

01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.659
Great episode. Learned a lot of new things. A

01:08:13.659 --> 01:08:14.960
lot of stuff we shouldn't know about, but we

01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:18.199
learned about them anyways. But what'd you think,

01:08:18.300 --> 01:08:21.500
Chip? I've learned that sometimes you shouldn't

01:08:21.500 --> 01:08:26.079
ask certain questions. Just plead the fifth.

01:08:26.819 --> 01:08:29.180
Just move on. No, ladies and gentlemen, thank

01:08:29.180 --> 01:08:31.279
you so much for tuning in tonight. We will be

01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:35.640
back again next Thursday. We will have Tony,

01:08:35.899 --> 01:08:40.359
no, Tony, I'm sorry, Troy Fonseca in the podcast.

01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.539
And the hero prevails will be here next Thursday.

01:08:44.539 --> 01:08:46.979
He was on the pocket of the local artist will

01:08:46.979 --> 01:08:48.600
be fun to have him on here I know he's been looking

01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:50.340
forward to coming for a quarter while we finally

01:08:50.340 --> 01:08:52.319
got him on he says he doesn't want you here.

01:08:52.319 --> 01:09:03.100
So it's gonna be awesome That'll be episode 253

01:09:03.100 --> 01:09:06.000
slowly climbing the ladder to 300 guys and our

01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:09.260
anniversary is coming up in August be seven years

01:09:09.930 --> 01:09:18.050
Podding here with you guys But guys to the next

01:09:18.050 --> 01:09:20.850
week 730 and the hero prevails will be here on

01:09:20.850 --> 01:09:23.869
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01:09:23.869 --> 01:09:31.189
leg off We will see you next week 730 p .m. Let

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don't archive Talking talent, businesses, it's

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the rhythm of our hive Every night, your stories

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ignite, shine it so bright Artists painting dreams,

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businesses skewing under the spotlight Mites

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are hot, the chat is alive Facebook's flicking

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but it's word or draw From coffee shops to rooftops

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and shout