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What's going on, guys? Welcome back to the TuneIn

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Podcast. Unfortunately, today I have this thing

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back with me again. Fuck you. Language buddy.

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Remember, YouTube status and TikTok. That's your

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boy. But today's episode, 248. We have a special

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guest with us today. Well, I have talked to a

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lot of catch -up, a lot of news to have an eye

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on in the RGB, but this one's gonna be a great

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one. So, you ready? Let's rock and roll, man.

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Things have been happening the last couple of

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days. We got mentioned on the World Podcast Network.

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World, the other podcasters in the world, there's

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an entire network of them, saw our show and gave

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us a shout out. Yes. That just like, that just

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blows our mind. No kidding man, and consider

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the fact that it was an episode like you said,

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the one you were on. That's right. That's right.

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Irrefutable proof. Yeah, whatever. Who's the

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star of the show? well that's why i don't have

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you on camera so but today we have a special

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guest with us man he was he was writing just

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a little nervous but we we calm him down we give

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him like four shots of tequila and uh actually

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i went through all the trouble to make it work

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so we got a special guest with us very very intelligent

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young man and a very interesting job he's doing

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ladies and gentlemen we'd like to invite And

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gladly introduce Mr. Javier Cavazos in the podcast!

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What's going on? Javi! I came into the podcast

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right now. I know we were talking about we're

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just being a little nervous. It's okay. We all

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get the sorry jitters. It's not a big deal. It's

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like we're pretty much shooting the crap. We're

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just shooting the breeze here. We're just going

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to get to know you. Where were you last week?

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No, I'm just joking. No, man. The way our show

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is, Javi, is that we like to get to know the

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guests, where they're from, where they grew up,

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how they got into what they're doing. By the

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way, if you are watching, guys, Javi is, I guess,

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co -owner or almost co -owner of this horse stables.

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But he reached out to my niece. Shout out to

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Ella Rose. Really reached out to me to my knees

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and he reached out to me. I like hey man I love

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to hang on and the stuff that I've been seeing

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online that you post on Instagram It's some nice

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stuff horse jumping horse riding before we get

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into all that Tell us a little bit about yourself

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man. Where you from we grew up and how we got

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to who we are right now And basically they don't

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know how I got into horses. Right. I was a little

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baby probably like what four months old and they

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put me on this horse that lasted me a lifetime

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and they wanted to like to take me off the horse.

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Ain't no way. And you know I started crying and

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crying. Ain't no way I'm getting off this thing

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mama. Yeah and then since then my passion started

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growing stronger and stronger and that's where

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I am now. Right and not only this is a horse

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that you were saying that uh Through the years

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you when you start off at a young age First it

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was the writing first was it first? What's the

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techniques that you need to learn to get on the

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horse good? I'm terrified old bro. I mean look

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at I'm an old man Shut up, dude Maybe it is in

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a different state, but what does it take for

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somebody I know you offer horse riding lessons,

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but A lot of people say, you know, you want to

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learn, anybody can do it. You just need to be

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taught, right? So when you were at that young

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age, when you started riding, as you said, a

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young baby, they put you on a horse. When you

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got up, did you find yourself that you really

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want to learn how to ride horses? Yeah, I mean,

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since I was a baby, I really didn't understand.

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I just liked it, I guess. But when the influenza

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came through, like the first case, I got it.

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Oh, goodness. And I remember I got really sick.

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I was hospitalized. And I started watching this

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show called Sattles? Sattles? Something like

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that. OK, OK. It was on Netflix. And I saw they

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were doing the jumping, western, all of that

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stuff. And when I was in quarantine, I would

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watch it. And I kept repeating the same episode

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over and over again. Right, right. And then I

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told my mom, I want to do this. I want to do

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the jumping part. And since then, I just. I just

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start going and then... I was in middle school

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probably. I found a bar and they did the sport.

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So from there I started taking lessons, I started

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going and then I started developing the professionalism

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of the show jumping. Which is the sport that's

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called the jumping defenses. And basically people

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are like, oh you're just jumping like a big dog

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or fences. And technically we are jumping fences.

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Only I'm riding them man. I'm riding them. It's

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a lot of responsibility. it's really complicated

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i mean it is complicated i'm not gonna lie it

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is really mentally tiring yeah you have to have

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really good mindset you have to be really positive

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it's a sport yeah it's a sport and not just you're

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the athlete the horse is the athlete right right

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you have to make sure that the horse and you

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have the connection and make sure that both of

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you are mentally stable enough right to make

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sure you can do the obstacles right of course

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competitions and all the fun stuff yeah because

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if your horse doesn't trust you because like

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they're you know you met people that are like

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all twitchy and everything yeah if they bring

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that energy to the horse it's gonna feel that

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too yeah my client she is 14 years old and she

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came one day and she started pretty good but

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she wasn't getting the technique that i was trying

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to teach her and she got frustrated So that frustration

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made her fall. So I told her, hey, relax, breathe

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in, breathe out, make sure that the nerves stay

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outside the arena. In the ring, it's just you

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and your course and the trainer. So I gave her

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a pep talk, everything. She did it again, and

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she's like, I don't think I want to jump. I'm

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like, OK, you don't want to jump. Let's just

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do. But consider the fact that it's it's a live

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animal, bro. There's things up. It's not I'm

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gonna call it a monster It's a big animal. I

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mean, you're about what least four or five feet

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in the air. Maybe even 60 Right, right I mean

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cuz I've gotten on top of this guy's shoulder.

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I get scared man. It's a long drop And believe

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me, I will kick him off. I will kick him. He

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said on my shoulder. He said that on my shoulder.

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On his shoulder. I said shoulders. Yes, you did.

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And clearly you did. Let's just move on. So,

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I mean, talking about falling off, have there

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been any times when you've fallen off the horse?

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Oh, many times. Many times I lost count. Which

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is the worst one you've had, man? The worst one.

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So I was running at this barn that I left due

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to Problems, okay, just touch the city, right?

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So they give me this mare. She wasn't hundred

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percent trained So basically I was training her

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and we were doing the course and she gave me

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the confidence I was like, okay, we're doing

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good But I didn't know that she wasn't ready

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to jump the 90 centimeter or 80 was around there

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So and there was two it was two jumps. It was

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about this wide okay so i was like okay i'm comfortable

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i've done this before with different horses right

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so i kept pushing her she gave me the confidence

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she's gonna jump last minute she uh i draped

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this i went flying i felt you jumped i fell on

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top of the jumps and my ankle got caught in the

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jump so it like it went like this and then my

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the point on my like the on my toe went inward

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Sprayed my ankle. It was pretty bad. And this

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is why I'll never ride a horse Yeah, I mean traveling

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through the air and then the horse decides to

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stop yeah um that's crazy that's one of the like

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falls because i had to get a cast but the second

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one was so i'm sorry i'm riding internationally

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now i ride in mexico and monterey oh wow okay

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wow so i'm competing in both states there you

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go and um so we were just practicing it did rain

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so the arena was a little there we have a special

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like dirt so the horse can like doesn't slip

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right unfortunately this horse did slip so and

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it was just a very small jump like it wasn't

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nothing big it was just really small he jumped

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it and we were fine he stumbled and he like bent

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his knee tried to get back up and he did so basically

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he went down on his knees i went flying and i

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landed flat on my back and i couldn't breathe

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for like Like getting punched by Tyson bro right

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there So, I mean having these uh, like I said

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you train people that want to learn how to how

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to ride most i'm pretty sure there's a list beyond

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list of people that want to come in right are

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the first ones that come in say okay i wonder

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and when they see the actual horse itself they're

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like yeah never mind i don't want to do it or

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i mean you've ever had the ones that are actually

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back out no one has backed out but did you get

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nervous i did have a client who he was like hey

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i had this ball And I want to get back into writing

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because I get invited to trail rides and all

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this fun stuff. I was like, OK, yeah, I can get

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you there. But first, I need you to get rid of

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your fear. So what we do, even if you're starting,

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we get you to know the forest. We get you to

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refresh the forest, learn how to tech up. And

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then from there, we get you on. And it all depends

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on that. I'm like, hey, am I ready? Or I am ready?

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Depending on what they tell us, we go off. Okay.

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You know what you should do? I mean, this is

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just my opinion. I actually heard this story

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from my dad. You put them on a donkey first.

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If they can survive the donkey... A burro! Put

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them on a burro! Put them on a burro! You have

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a donkey, so I might think about it. That fear

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that they had will quickly be replaced by an

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unending rage. But so I mean we have that horse

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riding stuff that's going on and now that you

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see you're doing jumping also Do you have any

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young students that come in to wonder how to

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jump also? Wow wow yeah she she started off in

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a different blind she didn't like it she got

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bored okay she she told her mom mom i don't want

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to get bored like take me somewhere else so right

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now i'm like okay i can't have her to get bored

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or else she'll leave yeah but she started off

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really nice uh right now she's trotting and she's

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just four years old and trotting is harder than

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it looks because you have to like go up and down

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in the saddle it's like when you're driving you

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put your blinker yes So when you're posting the

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trot, you have to go, actually, you have to sit

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on the leg that's going the opposite side. So

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if you're going this way, you have to sit on

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the right shoulder so the horse knows, oh, I'm

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going to the left. And then it's the other way

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around. So she's starting to learn. She does

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get scared. She goes like this. I'm like, hey,

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relax. Sit up straight. Everything's going to

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be fine. And she's starting to trot, and she's

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starting to do a little like. We call it pavilettis,

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and so it's a little poor, and she's starting

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to go over it little by little. So she's a really

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brave girl, because not all four -year -olds

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have that courage to take her anger lessons,

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especially on a really big horse. No kidding,

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no kidding, man. Go ahead. My dad tried to put

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me on a horse once, when I was four. I started

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screaming and crying, like, who the hell are

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you? That's crazy, though. That's amazing. She's

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a prodigy in training, sort of. Yeah, yeah, she's

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a great little girl. She has a passion for it.

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And she has a talent as well. Like every single

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day she comes. She comes once a week. So every

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single time she comes, she's improving a lot.

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And it's just once. If she would come in like

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two times or three times a week, she would have

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been probably jumping right up. Wow. Wow. And

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so do y 'all have like a certain ceremony or

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something like that when they graduate from writing

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classes or something like that? Not really, so

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what happens is like the bar I work at, I write

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at, we start by, they start like arena one, arena

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two, arena three, arena four, arena five. So

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the fifth one is like professionals, the ones

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who are jumping like a meter 60, or people who

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own courses. So how I do it is like, okay, we

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start on phase one. I get you on walking the

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horse first on a roundabout. I don't put you

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all in the arena yet because the horse can do

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something stupid and I don't want them to fall.

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So I build the confidence up. We start getting

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to know each other as well as the horse and the

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trainer. So we start walking. I talk to her.

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I start to teach her the basics like heels down,

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how to post, how to hold her body up. And then

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from there, I'll be like, okay. I talk to parents

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and I'll be like, hey. Your daughter or son is

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ready to move on to the next phase, right? Are

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you willing to like keep pushing them on like

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hey, I got your back Like I'm going to support

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you no matter what so I talk to them first whatever

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the parent says I go and move on with the student

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and then one faces and that's how I my My training

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is others work differently like they're like,

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okay You do this and we're gonna do this now,

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right? I like to start with basics first then

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after basics. I don't know you're ready for the

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next step Let's get you going right right right,

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but there's no such like ceremony. Oh, like you've

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graduated from phase one, right? Right, right.

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It's like a clinic then they do give you like

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a certification like oh Here's your certificate

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for completing level four or level five, right?

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Right, but that's like Yeah, that's more like

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oh I want to learn I want to get my technique

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like improved like better then I go to clinics

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like for example me and right now I'm working

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on a certification so I can go like not just

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to like Schooling shows, but you bring it shows,

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right? So right now my love was basically going

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from the meter to the meter 60 So I'm working

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on that. Oh, okay. All right guys just to give

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you a heads up I'm just getting a phone call

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from the wife right now. This is the first time

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ever I'm looking outside our studio and It looks

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bad There's a storm coming in but now they for

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some reason we get knocked off the air For some

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reason lights go out. I promise you we'll bring

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you back and finish this episode or we have to

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do a video video wise We'll do it that way. But

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just to give you a heads up you are watching

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the and we get cut off It's because the power

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went out and I for my son is watching don't worry.

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I'm fine. We're gonna be okay So I'm okay, too,

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you know, nobody really cares about you But back

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to Javier here so Horse riding itself and this

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ranch you have going on. You say it's owned by

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your grandfather, correct? No Would you? This

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is the way I saw it man when when when Ella was

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telling me because you had to talk to my friend

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He has ranches and then let me look them up,

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you know and see what's going on And I was looking

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at the pictures he had man all these these horses

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bro left and right I mean all these beautiful

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horses then you see him jumping and stuff like

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that man. This is a this is a traditional modern

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cowboy somebody who knows for sure you know how

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to rope a horse also yeah I started from western

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like I said charro so I said charro and then

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I didn't like it went to western I liked it but

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then I was like nah I still want to do jumping

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and then I did jumping did you ever did by any

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chance did you ever try riding a bull? There's

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always that one process that's why cuz I have

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a buddy of mine that works with me and he used

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to do rodeo and he said dude I used to bull ride

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he used to bull ride back in the day and he's

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From the age of I think he said from 15 till

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he was about at least 22 23. I go why'd you stop?

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Bro, you know how bad you get jerked around on

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that dang goal I mean I've felt so many times

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where I thought it wasn't gonna get up because

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the falls are crazy and this is like a raging

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bully riding I mean you let alone have your I

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mean, like you said, well, here's another one

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Have you ever had anybody get bucked off a horse

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by accident by spooking the horse by accident?

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My students? No, okay But personally, yes, and

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I've seen it from my friends who also ride I

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mean I've been bucked off so many times my horse

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has reared on me and I've fallen so basically

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like it is a dangerous sport like rodeo charro

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the equestrian community it's really dangerous

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because you don't know like let's say today I

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would have gotten ride I don't know if my horse

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today is feeling it exactly he might start bucking

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he might start like kicking he might start biting

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So we always have to be like, okay, today cannot

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be, it could be my day, but it cannot be a horse.

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Right. I used to work with a manager way back

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in the day who rode horses. He was part of a

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horse club also. I think they're based here in

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Elsa Mercedes. I'm not sure where they're from.

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But I used to see that he would watch videos

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on horse training. on how to keep up from being

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spooked. There was some stuff that I saw like,

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man, this is just wrong, bro. The way they're

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treating their horses, how to like not to be

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spooked. Some use like a plastic bag that would

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channel around their face so they can get used

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to it. I mean, are all these traditional techniques,

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are there certain techniques that you know, to

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train a horse? Yes, so obviously there's a lot

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of different type of trainers. There's the abuser

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ones and the ones who take it step by step. so

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like for example I have a little mare she was

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just born like last month I think so When we

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get we wanted to get her started like on writing

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so we're gonna start first like with the halter

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Make sure she does she feels comfortable in it

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make sure like she doesn't spook or doesn't spook

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at humans, right? So we start like little by

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little so we get them as babies if there's a

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chance, right? So we get them as babies we start

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with the halter We start like walking them into

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like all these type of obstacles like trees branches

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loud noises Caves and stuff like that and like

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the bags, right? personally i love the bag one

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because like you can open an umbrella you can

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have something like a coat on and basically that's

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going to help the force not to spook not to throw

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you off right that's called desensitization okay

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i understand did you understand huh exactly So

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we just started we started step by step I've

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gotten so many horses abused Skinny and what

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the purpose of my barn is to make sure the horse

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look healthy Make sure they don't they don't

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spook make sure they're they're kids safe for

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the kids right right right not just for kids

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but for anyone who wants to ride them and We

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just we just want them to be happy as well as

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like the riders, right? that's our purpose of

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our barn. Right. Because I've been to multiple

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barns. I did not do good. My horse was abused.

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I was like not abused, but I was going through

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it as well. Right, right. Because I lost lessons

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because my horse was sick and all because like

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the They weren't getting the proper care. Right,

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right, right, right. Because I've seen, I mean,

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everybody's gone to a parade. They usually at

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the very end or the very beginning you have the

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horses that come in, they're riding. And I love

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watching them. They're fun to watch as a young

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kid. Now that I'm getting older and I see them,

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you really learn to look at the real aspects

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of something to it. I remember... It was like

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nine twelve years ago. Uh, we were at uh watching

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a an event a parade i'm sure it was the mercedes

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Livestock show when they were doing the riding

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the horses or not. I can't remember exactly what

00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.740
parade but I see these riders, you know older

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gentlemen, you know And you know, they're making

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them dance walk to the side and stuff like that

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Okay, but at the same time you're looking at

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the horse gnawing on the uh, what is it called?

00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:04.480
The bit yeah, yeah, they're biting on it. But

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at the same time I see them, you know hitting

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them on the sides what the hell are they doing?

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And I'm looking at this horse and there's some

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horses that I see like, man, this horse is bleeding,

00:23:13.619 --> 00:23:16.059
man. What are you doing? And I go, God damn.

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And you see them shoving the spur against the

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spur. They go like, bro, just a little tap will

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make them move. You don't have to shank them

00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:27.319
in there. But I mean, I don't know. I don't know

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the first thing of. Riding the horse is how to

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train a horse or anything like that You know

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guitar player can say and you're gonna beat the

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crap out of your fingers when you're jamming

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You know, that's just gonna make your make your

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cows is bigger and stronger. That's Mike's used

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by seeing that I mean to me as a as a as a civilian

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Watching this you feel bad for the horses, you

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know, but I mean the way the way I've seen Videos

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of you when you're riding doesn't look like you're

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doing that at all You know, I think some of these

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vehicles need to come learn from you, buddy Mean,

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but have you seen that and when you go right?

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Yeah It's something really important that us

00:24:07.369 --> 00:24:09.690
as equestrians we want to get the word out there

00:24:09.690 --> 00:24:12.750
to stop the abuse of horses Especially the dancing

00:24:12.750 --> 00:24:15.910
horses. They get chains on their feet. They get

00:24:15.910 --> 00:24:18.529
really intense bits where they're opening their

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mouth So they only have one way to breathe And

00:24:25.099 --> 00:24:27.000
it's through their nose and then through their

00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.220
throat. So when they're opening their mouth with

00:24:29.220 --> 00:24:32.119
the harsh bit, they're like this, right? So they're

00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:34.980
knocking their airway. So there's no way for

00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:37.319
them to breathe. So that's why they start foaming

00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:39.700
off in the mouth or just start to get rebellious.

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Like they start kicking, they start biting because

00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.480
they feel uncomfortable. And also you can tell

00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.299
by their face. You can tell when a horse is sad

00:24:46.299 --> 00:24:48.980
or a horse is angry. When a horse is not comfortable,

00:24:49.099 --> 00:24:51.240
you can just tell by their ears, their eyes.

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Their eyes is like, it's something like... for

00:24:54.539 --> 00:24:56.319
me it's the most beautiful thing a horse can

00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.200
have because that's how i know if they're happy

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if they're sad or there's something in their

00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:04.220
body is making them feel comfortable right right

00:25:04.220 --> 00:25:06.259
so when i go to these parades and i see them

00:25:06.259 --> 00:25:10.160
myself i can't watch right and yes like personally

00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.319
i do use spurs but i don't use those like star

00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:16.700
spurs like the westerns the traditional the traditional

00:25:16.700 --> 00:25:45.609
ones Right, right, right it's really sad to see

00:25:45.609 --> 00:25:48.970
all these horses being treated so badly and that

00:25:48.970 --> 00:25:51.509
there's no one doing nothing about it right right

00:25:51.509 --> 00:25:54.190
right just letting them be and honestly for me

00:25:54.190 --> 00:25:56.910
that's actually that's abuse like that's not

00:25:56.910 --> 00:25:58.750
good for the horses at the end of the day you

00:25:58.750 --> 00:26:00.890
want to ride your horse one day it's going to

00:26:00.890 --> 00:26:02.769
buck you up because you're it's already been

00:26:02.769 --> 00:26:04.670
it's been through it's been through torture already

00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:07.289
it's been tortured already yeah and you know

00:26:07.289 --> 00:26:09.630
and i see that i would see that in most parades

00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:11.750
you know and and i would freak out like wow man

00:26:12.990 --> 00:26:16.990
It makes you think about a Family guy when one

00:26:16.990 --> 00:26:18.990
of the horse breaks his leg because I'm sorry,

00:26:19.089 --> 00:26:20.809
but we're gonna have to put take y 'all back

00:26:20.809 --> 00:26:23.569
I can still stand on it. Look you see you see

00:26:23.569 --> 00:26:25.190
then he gets away. I guess on it back. Yeah,

00:26:25.190 --> 00:26:29.470
come on You know, and I think yeah, what if what

00:26:29.470 --> 00:26:38.970
if the horse could write the damn person? Bingo

00:26:38.970 --> 00:26:41.460
and that's because I wasn't watching it It's

00:26:41.460 --> 00:26:44.599
a good example of how horses want to express

00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.259
themselves just by bucking you off, kicking you,

00:26:47.299 --> 00:26:50.720
biting you when they're being put through a lot.

00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:54.180
So personally for me, I don't like the dancing

00:26:54.180 --> 00:26:57.359
horses. We do have dressage, but it's more safer.

00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.279
It's more calm, more elegant, more bougie, I

00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.819
guess you could say. But the western and the

00:27:05.819 --> 00:27:08.700
chariot, it's a little bit more. It also depends.

00:27:09.950 --> 00:27:13.349
The trainer or the trainer, right? Like for example

00:27:13.349 --> 00:27:16.069
me if I see my horse having a bad day, I'm not

00:27:16.069 --> 00:27:18.650
getting my student on the horse. Right. I find

00:27:18.650 --> 00:27:21.589
a different horse and we start from basics or

00:27:21.589 --> 00:27:23.890
I teach them that hey look this horse is not

00:27:23.890 --> 00:27:25.829
having a good day. Right. I'm gonna teach you

00:27:25.829 --> 00:27:28.750
something and we don't get on. Right. Until the

00:27:28.750 --> 00:27:31.509
horse is feeling better. Right. But I prefer

00:27:31.509 --> 00:27:34.150
to have my student safety and the horse. More

00:27:34.150 --> 00:27:37.569
like, I guess you could say chew like a self

00:27:37.569 --> 00:27:40.809
-reflection. Like from owner to horse or from

00:27:40.809 --> 00:27:42.529
horse to owner, you know? You know the horse

00:27:42.529 --> 00:27:45.000
is a diabetic. feed him something you know brush

00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.279
his hair or pet him okay we're not going to do

00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:48.299
that today don't worry about it we're going to

00:27:48.299 --> 00:27:51.319
relax if you if you look at the horse as a friend

00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.059
you know what would you do if your friend was

00:27:53.059 --> 00:27:55.359
in a bad mood you try to make him cheer him up

00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.180
yeah cheer him up cheer him up if you're just

00:27:58.180 --> 00:28:00.119
looking at the horse like it's a piece of property

00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.480
then you don't really care what what mood it's

00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:04.880
in and i mean that's that's kind of the attitude

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.519
you see you know with a lot of the older styles

00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:15.589
of uh yeah i mean you when they're when the human

00:28:15.589 --> 00:28:17.390
is ready to go it doesn't matter if the horse

00:28:17.390 --> 00:28:19.630
is ready to go it's got to go right and it's

00:28:19.630 --> 00:28:22.730
got to do what it's told it's it's more like

00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:25.190
the how can i say the dominant you know i'm the

00:28:25.190 --> 00:28:27.210
dominant you're gonna do what i tell you to do

00:28:27.210 --> 00:28:30.710
and what's on and then listening to Javier speak

00:28:30.710 --> 00:28:34.029
it's like it's a 50 50 if you're not feeling

00:28:34.029 --> 00:28:37.619
it I'm not feeling it when you're ready to go,

00:28:37.619 --> 00:28:39.660
but if I need to do something you gotta go Hey,

00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:41.740
I sided with you last time. I said with me this

00:28:41.740 --> 00:28:44.559
time. Come on. Let's let's go You know it's sort

00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.059
of it's sort of like a like a football team You

00:28:47.059 --> 00:28:49.400
know you're coaching and you need you need them

00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:53.079
to Go out there and do their job, but sometimes

00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.299
you're just they're just not feeling it It's

00:28:55.299 --> 00:28:56.900
not in the it's not in the cards. You know what

00:28:56.900 --> 00:29:04.769
I mean? he wouldn't listen to me he would like

00:29:04.769 --> 00:29:07.970
just bolt off and I left I got off with my hands

00:29:07.970 --> 00:29:10.309
like almost up to beating like they were red

00:29:10.309 --> 00:29:12.569
because I was like yanking like hey like calm

00:29:12.569 --> 00:29:15.849
down calm down um so I was like you know what

00:29:15.849 --> 00:29:18.710
let's just make it short and simple I finished

00:29:18.710 --> 00:29:21.829
with flat work which is just like walking trotting

00:29:21.829 --> 00:29:24.549
sometimes it's like little poles and I ended

00:29:24.549 --> 00:29:26.390
the day because I was like I'm not going to push

00:29:26.390 --> 00:29:28.369
my course to its limits because I'm having a

00:29:28.369 --> 00:29:29.990
good day I don't want to fall off and I don't

00:29:29.990 --> 00:29:31.910
want to injure my course either So I was like,

00:29:32.029 --> 00:29:34.990
I'll just call it a day. And then we just let

00:29:34.990 --> 00:29:37.470
the horse be, give him a nice shower, let him

00:29:37.470 --> 00:29:39.589
graze, and let him be horses. Because if you

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don't let him be horses, you're not going to

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get the results that you want. Right. Exactly.

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off on this man as far as the club wise How does

00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:25.039
being in a I've heard when I hear clubs? Think

00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.480
of iron horse. I think of motorcycle guys driving

00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.960
around their bikes, you know going from town

00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.740
to town But this is a club of riders. Am I correct?

00:32:36.460 --> 00:32:39.039
Of people that ride horses. Yeah. Now, how do

00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.119
you get into it something to get something involved

00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:46.599
like that? Take take us through that How much

00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:54.230
time do we got like riders it's also like we

00:32:54.230 --> 00:32:59.650
do boarding we do parties photo shoots so honestly

00:32:59.650 --> 00:33:02.990
i don't know how we get got into a club i mean

00:33:02.990 --> 00:33:05.769
all the bars you have they give you look look

00:33:05.769 --> 00:33:08.410
them up on online or instagram facebook they're

00:33:08.410 --> 00:33:12.190
gonna let go like monarch stables equation club

00:33:12.190 --> 00:33:16.440
right right but i guess you can say club um because

00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.940
they all have their little branches. For me,

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.759
my barn is JC Question Club, so it's my club

00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:26.039
only, because it's mine. They're like Monarch.

00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:30.119
Monarch and Question Club. So it's kind of like

00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.940
high school and have the little clubs. It's kind

00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:37.500
of basically like that. Do you have to be part

00:33:37.500 --> 00:33:40.240
of the actual stable itself to get into this

00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:43.279
club? Are there certain ways to get in? No, I

00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.140
mean if you want a horse and you want a board

00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:48.539
you can be part of the JC Western club. All right

00:33:48.539 --> 00:33:54.200
Okay, and so I mean as far as like my camera

00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.319
just went out I've got to fix it right now, but

00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:00.740
uh Take us a little bit on what I want to know

00:34:00.740 --> 00:34:05.400
is When you first rode your your first time you

00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:07.079
rode your horse and you went to jumping for the

00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.920
first time The first time you went jumping for

00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.610
the first time in your horse What did that feel

00:34:12.610 --> 00:34:15.130
like doing your first jump? I mean what what

00:34:15.130 --> 00:34:18.489
was the? The talk up. What was the how did you

00:34:18.489 --> 00:34:24.469
get yourself to do it pretty much? Honestly It

00:34:24.469 --> 00:34:28.650
felt good It feels like you're flying but you

00:34:28.650 --> 00:34:31.130
do get nervous because you know if the horse

00:34:31.130 --> 00:34:34.590
is actually gonna make it over the jump But since

00:34:34.590 --> 00:34:36.969
I've been watching videos since I was like like

00:34:36.969 --> 00:34:40.170
when I got the flu and stuff. I was like, okay

00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.800
I didn't know what I was doing right right right

00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.719
my turn was like go go go over it do it and I

00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:55.119
was like okay so I just watched I'm a visual

00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:56.860
learner so I was watching everybody go I was

00:34:56.860 --> 00:34:59.860
like okay they're doing this so like I'm not

00:34:59.860 --> 00:35:02.059
gonna lie you get that adrenaline inside of you

00:35:02.059 --> 00:35:05.780
like oh wow like the horse can jump like it's

00:35:05.780 --> 00:35:09.269
gonna feel like Cool. Yeah, right. Especially

00:35:09.269 --> 00:35:11.969
when the height keeps going higher and higher,

00:35:12.489 --> 00:35:14.469
it feels like you're flying. And honestly, my

00:35:14.469 --> 00:35:17.610
whole problem, they're gone. I'm just focused,

00:35:18.130 --> 00:35:21.510
like, oh, you look cool. Because I'm flying over

00:35:21.510 --> 00:35:25.110
these jumps. So it feels really cool. It feels

00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:27.769
like you're flying. But basically, I like to

00:35:27.769 --> 00:35:31.349
see it like, oh, God gave me a horse. So with

00:35:31.349 --> 00:35:33.929
the horse, I have wings. So that's how I see

00:35:33.929 --> 00:35:37.489
it. You got a Pegasus. Look at you. That's pretty

00:35:37.489 --> 00:35:39.969
cool, man. And as far as like, I know, I mean,

00:35:40.070 --> 00:35:42.989
riding a motorcycle back in the day, I mean,

00:35:43.070 --> 00:35:44.449
when you're riding, it's nothing compared to

00:35:44.449 --> 00:35:47.190
being a horse, but the feeling of riding on that

00:35:47.190 --> 00:35:48.969
machine, just like you're riding on that animal,

00:35:51.090 --> 00:35:55.150
you know, everything just melts away. Being on

00:35:55.150 --> 00:35:57.369
a motorcycle when you ride, you just, you feel

00:35:57.369 --> 00:35:59.530
the wind hitting your face, you're riding and

00:35:59.530 --> 00:36:01.789
it feels amazing. Consider the fact you got vehicles

00:36:01.789 --> 00:36:04.050
coming up to ride on you, but it feels amazing

00:36:04.050 --> 00:36:06.190
because you're riding on your own You're by yourself.

00:36:06.530 --> 00:36:09.130
You are one with this machine. I mean when you

00:36:09.130 --> 00:36:11.929
have you're gone for long rides I mean just non

00:36:11.929 --> 00:36:15.210
-stop on your horses. Oh so many times I like

00:36:15.210 --> 00:36:17.650
to see the scenery of our ranch and just ride

00:36:17.650 --> 00:36:20.849
until the sunset and just just connect a little

00:36:20.849 --> 00:36:23.670
bit from the real world and just me and my horse

00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:26.460
And I also like my horse to have fun while we're

00:36:26.460 --> 00:36:28.860
out there. So I've done it so many times and

00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:32.159
even when I don't jump, I walk my horse out and

00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.820
I take him to the back to go see the cows, to

00:36:34.820 --> 00:36:37.820
see the everything. So it's really nice because

00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:39.460
you get to disconnect a little bit and you get

00:36:39.460 --> 00:36:43.030
to breathe in fresh air and just... Relax and

00:36:43.030 --> 00:36:45.550
something that I just found out that is like

00:36:45.550 --> 00:36:47.869
I was breathing in and breathing out And I didn't

00:36:47.869 --> 00:36:50.449
notice that my force was doing it with me. Oh

00:36:50.449 --> 00:36:54.309
I guess he was feeling that I was just relaxed

00:36:54.309 --> 00:36:58.480
and he was like, oh my god so like this like

00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.860
horses feel everything they feel when you breathe

00:37:00.860 --> 00:37:02.900
they feel when you take tests when you test up

00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:05.059
right when your heart stops because like there's

00:37:05.059 --> 00:37:06.500
times where like i stop breathing and my heart

00:37:06.500 --> 00:37:08.780
kind of like stops after like they do something

00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:11.780
like oh i'm going to fall so like they feel everything

00:37:11.780 --> 00:37:16.579
even if like you're really sad they know you're

00:37:16.579 --> 00:37:29.300
sad right they make the best That's another thing

00:37:29.300 --> 00:37:31.239
I want to ask you is I've known I know there's

00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.590
a couple of stables that do offer therapy equal

00:37:36.590 --> 00:37:39.510
therapy for that and I know I my wife and I want

00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:41.849
to take our son one time to get that because

00:37:41.849 --> 00:37:43.670
my son's really into horses also when he was

00:37:43.670 --> 00:37:47.809
younger younger younger lad he loved horses even

00:37:47.809 --> 00:37:50.849
as a young kid but we never really pursued it

00:37:50.849 --> 00:37:55.070
but I have seen do you offer that in your stables

00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:58.630
also as far as like therapy As for now, not yet.

00:37:59.230 --> 00:38:01.309
But I am thinking, because you do have to be

00:38:01.309 --> 00:38:04.829
certified to do equine therapy. Because it's

00:38:04.829 --> 00:38:08.070
like if you're a nurse. So it does take its time.

00:38:08.730 --> 00:38:10.909
But it is in the future. In the future we will

00:38:10.909 --> 00:38:14.769
have equine therapy. But I think my mom is watching.

00:38:15.829 --> 00:38:26.789
Hi mom. My mom got surgery from her spine, neck

00:38:26.789 --> 00:38:30.920
and lower back and i remember after like the

00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:32.820
recovery and everything she couldn't turn and

00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:34.519
she couldn't like she would like just do this

00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:36.699
to this side okay but to the other side actually

00:38:36.699 --> 00:38:39.840
and with the time she she was like oh i don't

00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:45.820
want this you can ride you don't just have to

00:38:45.820 --> 00:38:48.460
like just stay there right like not do all what

00:38:48.460 --> 00:38:51.300
i do right so uh but you're really proud of her

00:38:51.300 --> 00:38:54.599
she started writing oh that's good and she she

00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.710
she started to have more mobility in her and

00:38:57.710 --> 00:39:00.750
her spine her neck her arms she was able to stretch

00:39:00.750 --> 00:39:03.590
her legs after so many years of not being able

00:39:03.590 --> 00:39:06.809
to do exercise right so i was like you see all

00:39:06.809 --> 00:39:09.130
the power that horses have you don't just have

00:39:09.130 --> 00:39:12.190
to like oh i don't jump and do all this stuff

00:39:12.190 --> 00:39:14.889
no you can just do basics the walking maybe just

00:39:14.889 --> 00:39:17.309
trotting right maybe a little bit of carrying

00:39:17.309 --> 00:39:19.829
depending on the condition of the rider right

00:39:19.829 --> 00:39:23.409
and also like uh i have my student when she was

00:39:23.409 --> 00:39:26.030
a baby she had a metal plate on her hip so she

00:39:26.030 --> 00:39:28.750
has it so whenever she gets on she like bends

00:39:28.750 --> 00:39:31.250
her knee so she doesn't get on like oh a swing

00:39:31.250 --> 00:39:33.750
no she has to like bend her her knee and then

00:39:33.750 --> 00:39:38.269
get on right and she she started like her leg

00:39:38.269 --> 00:39:40.510
so when you're jumping you have to have a nice

00:39:40.510 --> 00:39:43.170
stable leg you cannot just have a moving back

00:39:43.170 --> 00:39:45.670
close then when you land to the other side you're

00:39:45.670 --> 00:39:48.190
not going to be balanced enough so i started

00:39:48.190 --> 00:39:49.710
working on her i was like okay we need to get

00:39:49.710 --> 00:39:52.219
your legs Stable enough if you really want to

00:39:52.219 --> 00:40:04.619
jump and if you want to compete, right? And she

00:40:04.619 --> 00:40:08.099
starts to jump with a better stable leg She's

00:40:08.099 --> 00:40:11.260
able to push your heels down and basically courses

00:40:11.260 --> 00:40:14.679
help you out a lot especially if you do bareback,

00:40:14.860 --> 00:40:18.320
which is Basically no saddle. Yeah, that's not

00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:26.400
the cars you're having So we point therapy actually

00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:31.179
they get the kids But the reason is because the

00:40:31.179 --> 00:40:36.460
heat of the forest helps the kids a lot cousin

00:40:39.369 --> 00:40:41.929
to equal therapy and he couldn't speak and he

00:40:41.929 --> 00:40:45.210
started speaking oh wow wow so it helps a lot

00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:48.949
it helps a lot not just us but also kids with

00:40:48.949 --> 00:40:52.250
autism right where kids with like are paralyzed

00:40:52.250 --> 00:40:56.610
right it's uh it's something that you know us

00:40:56.610 --> 00:41:00.210
as uh as humans we don't realize how much power

00:41:00.210 --> 00:41:02.630
a certain little animal can Affect your life

00:41:02.630 --> 00:41:04.949
or anything, you know, just like these like little

00:41:04.949 --> 00:41:06.650
service dogs, you know, they that they have a

00:41:06.650 --> 00:41:08.949
lot of these older adults even younger younger

00:41:08.949 --> 00:41:11.210
kids that have them to help with their anxiety

00:41:11.210 --> 00:41:13.250
or help with anything that they're in their lives,

00:41:13.349 --> 00:41:16.750
you know, and it's it's it's nuts how Us as humans

00:41:16.750 --> 00:41:18.289
go now. Don't worry about he's gonna be okay

00:41:18.289 --> 00:41:20.590
Just let him relax and these little you get this

00:41:20.590 --> 00:41:23.650
little service dog or a horse or like you get

00:41:23.650 --> 00:41:25.849
them close to these animals and they just like

00:41:25.849 --> 00:41:31.400
it's like It's what's so crazy sometimes, you

00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:34.440
know, that the power of an animal can do on a

00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.000
human being. It's thoughts, man. It's thoughts.

00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.079
So, as far as the horse riding and all that good

00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.039
stuff, what do you like to do in your time off?

00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.179
I mean, what is after when you're not out there

00:41:46.179 --> 00:41:47.960
in the stables with your horse? Don't tell me,

00:41:48.059 --> 00:41:50.239
oh, I just like to stay in the stables. No, that's

00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.320
not true. What do you like to do in your time

00:41:53.320 --> 00:42:22.760
off when you're away? Limit the cowboy So basically,

00:42:22.940 --> 00:42:24.699
I try to keep myself busy just because I don't

00:42:24.699 --> 00:42:26.579
want to be all day cooped up in the house. Right.

00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.860
So yeah, I mean, I mean, in my free time, I go

00:42:30.860 --> 00:42:33.320
ride. I train myself and my course personally.

00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.400
So that's what I basically do on my free time

00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.780
besides sleeping. Right, right. But yeah, that's

00:42:37.780 --> 00:42:40.699
what I do. I'm basically 24 -7 at the barn most

00:42:40.699 --> 00:42:43.639
of the time. Wow, wow. Now, another question.

00:42:43.699 --> 00:42:46.179
I mean, have you had anybody considering that

00:42:46.179 --> 00:42:47.820
you have a stable out there? I'm pretty sure

00:42:47.820 --> 00:42:51.630
there's always... Can say and I'm gonna dip into

00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:55.849
the into the Into the musical arts people because

00:42:55.849 --> 00:42:58.449
a lot of people like to do videos in certain

00:42:58.449 --> 00:43:01.250
areas You know has anybody approached you of

00:43:01.250 --> 00:43:04.250
doing videos in your stables or on your ranch

00:43:04.250 --> 00:43:06.590
or anything like that? And when that what's the

00:43:06.590 --> 00:43:08.570
process of that just to get somebody that all

00:43:08.570 --> 00:43:10.690
these guys around you we can do a music video

00:43:10.690 --> 00:43:14.460
though we can Hold a scenery for a movie or you

00:43:14.460 --> 00:43:16.539
know, what are they is there a certain way or

00:43:16.539 --> 00:43:31.840
what steps? She reached out to me because she

00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:33.519
wanted to ride because she wanted to come out

00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:35.039
writing kind of like that Like in the movies

00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:36.800
like they're writing there's music in the background.

00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:42.119
That's what she wanted so she's like hey we actually

00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:45.920
have like four weeks i was like four weeks i

00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:48.420
was like how am i going to get you ready in four

00:43:48.420 --> 00:43:51.260
weeks like it takes at least six months for you

00:43:51.260 --> 00:43:55.519
to be 100 ready or not 100 but like an 89 percent

00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.340
ready right and she was like well i'll come every

00:43:58.340 --> 00:44:01.260
single day like all these four weeks and to get

00:44:01.260 --> 00:44:04.079
ready and i was like okay so honestly i don't

00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.900
know what i did but i got her ready for weeks

00:44:06.900 --> 00:44:12.210
and the day of her She was a pro. She was riding

00:44:12.210 --> 00:44:15.070
out there with the horse. She wasn't Leading

00:44:15.070 --> 00:44:18.909
horses back and forth and wow nice Wow, so yeah

00:44:18.909 --> 00:44:21.170
I got her ready for weeks and she had the most

00:44:21.170 --> 00:44:23.889
beautiful wedding music video I think we had

00:44:23.889 --> 00:44:29.130
to call hobby Javier the horse whisperer Colossus

00:44:29.130 --> 00:44:33.309
now, bro That's crazy man, it's crazy too. I

00:44:33.309 --> 00:44:36.460
mean it's like you said four weeks Uh, yeah,

00:44:36.500 --> 00:44:38.179
that ain't happening. It's like me trying to

00:44:38.179 --> 00:44:39.940
teach somebody to play guitar in four weeks Hey,

00:44:39.940 --> 00:44:41.159
I got a gig coming in four weeks and he just

00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.519
showed me how to play like 10 songs. Yeah, that

00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:52.960
ain't happening It's the truth man, I mean it

00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.940
takes time to learn these things man for her

00:44:55.940 --> 00:44:59.420
to she must That just proves another point uh,

00:44:59.420 --> 00:45:02.039
uh also choose like if you really want something

00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:05.019
you really want to go for it. You're gonna You

00:45:05.019 --> 00:45:07.059
know force yourself to learn something because

00:45:07.059 --> 00:45:09.639
you need to get it done. You know I'm pretty

00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.400
sure through the years Writing yourself. I mean

00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:14.519
I'm pretty sure you when you did your first job

00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.820
You were scared out of your mind, but you push

00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:20.199
yourself to get there I mean was this your idea

00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.639
to jump start jumping or was it something that

00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.539
somebody else trying to encourage you to do that

00:45:30.230 --> 00:45:32.489
Series and movies of the jumping. I always wanted

00:45:32.489 --> 00:45:35.610
to do it. I always wanted to try it. So yeah,

00:45:35.630 --> 00:45:37.969
it was basically my idea. My mom was scared because

00:45:37.969 --> 00:45:48.210
she was like That's a mom I did feel a little

00:45:48.210 --> 00:45:50.670
bit restrained because she was like all these

00:45:50.670 --> 00:45:52.610
injuries they will lecture me like all these

00:45:52.610 --> 00:45:53.730
injuries They're gonna have them when you get

00:45:53.730 --> 00:45:55.929
older. They're gonna feel it later. Not gonna

00:45:55.929 --> 00:46:21.269
lie. I do feel them, but I don't care So information

00:46:21.269 --> 00:46:23.969
how can people reach out to you if they want

00:46:23.969 --> 00:46:26.389
to head out to your to your ranch or to your

00:46:26.389 --> 00:46:29.210
stables and they want to Learn how to horseback

00:46:29.210 --> 00:46:31.610
ride. They want to learn how to maybe train the

00:46:31.610 --> 00:46:33.250
horse on their own horse Or maybe someone has

00:46:33.250 --> 00:46:35.510
them just recently bought a horse and they want

00:46:35.510 --> 00:46:38.449
to go out there and you know They want to board

00:46:38.449 --> 00:46:40.429
the horse in your stables. What information can

00:46:40.429 --> 00:46:43.809
you offer me for the all that information? Yeah,

00:46:43.809 --> 00:46:57.449
the social media is also And we post a lot on

00:46:57.449 --> 00:47:00.530
Facebook in July, where we'll be having a summer

00:47:00.530 --> 00:47:04.230
camp for 10 years and 17 year olds. And it's

00:47:04.230 --> 00:47:05.570
going to be fun. There's going to be a lot of

00:47:05.570 --> 00:47:07.389
kinds of activities. They're going to have tug

00:47:07.389 --> 00:47:10.849
of war, water balloon fights, arts and crafts.

00:47:11.329 --> 00:47:13.650
And at the end of each day, they're going to

00:47:13.650 --> 00:47:15.909
be able to ride a horse, learn how to tack, and

00:47:15.909 --> 00:47:17.710
learn how to groom, and basically the anatomy

00:47:17.710 --> 00:47:20.849
of a horse. wow so we have that this uh this

00:47:20.849 --> 00:47:23.010
coming month that's awesome oh and we also have

00:47:23.010 --> 00:47:24.969
horse shows for those who like they want to ride

00:47:24.969 --> 00:47:27.510
we do take them to horse shows okay cool so we

00:47:27.510 --> 00:47:31.190
go to competitions we i have one this july 28th

00:47:31.190 --> 00:47:35.190
and july 27th and we go to corpus it's called

00:47:35.190 --> 00:47:38.210
a schooling show because we start out with Basics

00:47:38.210 --> 00:47:40.989
like just so they can get like their nerves and

00:47:40.989 --> 00:47:42.690
start getting to know like oh this is what a

00:47:42.690 --> 00:47:45.389
horseshoe feels like Imagine how the big horseshoes

00:47:45.389 --> 00:47:47.730
feel like. So we get them out there and then

00:47:47.730 --> 00:47:50.250
with time we take them to bigger horseshoes and

00:47:50.250 --> 00:47:53.349
if they they're able to travel then we can also

00:47:53.349 --> 00:47:56.409
take them to Mexico. Wow that's pretty cool man.

00:47:56.590 --> 00:48:00.269
It's more than four weeks. It's not going to

00:48:00.269 --> 00:48:03.710
be a miracle. No it's going to be a time process.

00:48:03.969 --> 00:48:06.090
Guys if you look at the screen right now I have

00:48:06.090 --> 00:48:09.190
actually the Excuse me, the actual QR code that

00:48:09.190 --> 00:48:11.389
you can reach on there to get a hold of Javier

00:48:11.389 --> 00:48:12.949
here. It's right there on your right. If you

00:48:12.949 --> 00:48:16.550
look to his left, your right, you can go and

00:48:16.550 --> 00:48:17.989
scan it. It's on the screen, bro. You can get

00:48:17.989 --> 00:48:19.610
all the information through there. So you get

00:48:19.610 --> 00:48:23.949
everything you need to know to actually learn

00:48:23.949 --> 00:48:25.670
how to ride a horse and all that good stuff he

00:48:25.670 --> 00:48:27.030
just made. And also all the information that's

00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:29.829
going to happen further down the way as far as

00:48:29.829 --> 00:48:32.849
events for his club and also for the stables

00:48:32.849 --> 00:48:35.849
that he has out there. I mean, first of all,

00:48:35.849 --> 00:48:39.230
I want to say we're 48 minutes in but i want

00:48:39.230 --> 00:48:44.690
to say uh what you're doing as far as uh instructing

00:48:44.690 --> 00:48:49.630
young young uh young kids to go into this art

00:48:49.630 --> 00:48:53.010
uh you know consider the fact this is an art

00:48:53.010 --> 00:48:56.010
that's been around for a long time but very free

00:48:56.010 --> 00:48:59.809
pursuit uh horse riding uh it's something a very

00:48:59.809 --> 00:49:02.130
big part of our culture yes it is especially

00:49:02.130 --> 00:49:04.920
the as far as the latino culture, it's a very

00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.739
big part of our culture. You know, for years,

00:49:08.820 --> 00:49:13.360
my dad lived in Mexico and he said he had a horse

00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:14.940
of his own, he would ride his horse all over

00:49:14.940 --> 00:49:17.980
the place. And I never believed him until my

00:49:17.980 --> 00:49:20.920
uncle has a ranch here, north of Wessico. And

00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.840
he, I think I was like, I think it was like 19,

00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:26.820
18 years old at the time. And I saw him jump

00:49:26.820 --> 00:49:30.300
on one and he took off on like, yeah, it's like

00:49:30.300 --> 00:49:39.360
riding a bike, you never forget. It's weird,

00:49:39.539 --> 00:49:42.119
you know, the that's something I think everybody

00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.440
in their in their lifetime should try to learn,

00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:46.460
you know, ride a horse, you know, be one with

00:49:46.460 --> 00:49:49.920
an animal, go and go on the open range and just

00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.780
take off. But first learn the steps. Don't just

00:49:52.780 --> 00:49:53.960
say, I'm gonna borrow your horse, I'm gonna jump

00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:58.320
on that, wham, never mind, I'm out. But to learn

00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.380
that, I mean, how long was the training take?

00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:04.449
More or less. It's when I get professional, I

00:50:04.449 --> 00:50:07.289
mean you never stop Okay, I keep learning every

00:50:07.289 --> 00:50:11.929
single day But I started jumping Probably like

00:50:11.929 --> 00:50:15.150
two three months in depending on how fast the

00:50:15.150 --> 00:50:17.989
person learns, right? So it all depends also

00:50:17.989 --> 00:50:21.030
on the rider if they learn fast will probably

00:50:21.030 --> 00:50:24.309
take him four months three months Maybe two depending

00:50:24.309 --> 00:50:27.389
on how they're learning and for me personally

00:50:27.389 --> 00:50:32.579
it took me It took me years to get where I am

00:50:32.579 --> 00:50:37.059
now. But when I started training my own horses,

00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.360
it was during the pandemic. So we were staying

00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:42.519
in Mexico, and I had a ranch in Mexico as well,

00:50:42.900 --> 00:50:45.159
and I had chattel horses. And I was like, I don't

00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:49.320
want to do chattel. I don't like it. It was just

00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:51.699
like circles to one side, circles to another,

00:50:52.860 --> 00:50:54.659
cannon and slide. That's it. I was like, I don't

00:50:54.659 --> 00:50:57.389
want to do that. so i was like you know what

00:50:57.389 --> 00:51:00.590
this horse has the basic training let me see

00:51:00.590 --> 00:51:02.889
if they if this horse will is willing to jump

00:51:02.889 --> 00:51:05.670
so i started off first with the lunge line it's

00:51:05.670 --> 00:51:09.449
a lead line on the circle right i see what the

00:51:09.449 --> 00:51:12.130
how the horse moves okay they look fancy enough

00:51:12.130 --> 00:51:15.590
i think they can do this then i i'd like well

00:51:15.590 --> 00:51:17.610
back then in the ranch again have actual jumps

00:51:17.610 --> 00:51:20.570
so i would start off with two bricks and just

00:51:20.570 --> 00:51:22.710
the branch of a tree I'm like, okay, let's start

00:51:22.710 --> 00:51:28.929
off. So I started off with a pole and then I

00:51:28.929 --> 00:51:31.369
started raising it up little by little. And then

00:51:31.369 --> 00:51:33.469
I'm like, okay, this one has potential. Then

00:51:33.469 --> 00:51:36.929
I got on and I started to teach them the basics

00:51:36.929 --> 00:51:40.269
of show jumping. And then that's how I started

00:51:40.269 --> 00:51:42.630
building it up. Well, that's good to know, man.

00:51:42.730 --> 00:51:46.230
Like I said, it's in our heritage to learn all

00:51:46.230 --> 00:51:48.650
that good stuff, man. Because one day, you never

00:51:48.650 --> 00:51:52.000
know. Apocalypse come by and those things are

00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.099
right as a horse. You better know what the hell

00:51:54.099 --> 00:51:59.840
you're doing Too bad for you That's really gonna

00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:10.300
help Well, it's it's something something but

00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:12.139
no having worse I want to say thank you so much

00:52:12.139 --> 00:52:14.119
for coming out Having a good time. I know you're

00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.320
a little bit nervous, but the nerves look like

00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.659
they came off already So you did a great job

00:52:18.659 --> 00:52:20.059
on the podcast for the first time you've done

00:52:20.059 --> 00:52:26.280
a podcast. Thank you so much for coming I want

00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:31.039
to say thank you so much man, and what you're

00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:35.099
doing is is great man What you do as far as the

00:52:35.099 --> 00:52:37.079
stable? It's it's it's wonderful You know keep

00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.340
up the good work and who knows later down the

00:52:39.340 --> 00:52:41.429
line. You're probably gonna be one of those high

00:52:41.429 --> 00:52:44.590
caliber riders that are on tv they're okay you

00:52:44.590 --> 00:52:46.349
they have the infomercials if you want to ride

00:52:46.349 --> 00:52:50.869
a horse hey it may happen it may not but all

00:52:50.869 --> 00:52:52.489
we can say is thank you so much for coming to

00:52:52.489 --> 00:52:55.510
the podcast now we appreciate you now and i hope

00:52:55.510 --> 00:52:57.769
yeah whenever you have anything coming up that

00:52:57.769 --> 00:52:59.250
you need let us know let us know through our

00:52:59.250 --> 00:53:02.010
facebook page we'll gladly put it up on our facebook

00:53:02.010 --> 00:53:04.329
page and promote it ourselves for you so thank

00:53:04.329 --> 00:53:07.590
you so much man Ladies and gentlemen, I know

00:53:07.590 --> 00:53:09.769
we're 53 minutes. We are cutting kind of short,

00:53:09.769 --> 00:53:13.690
but you know It's very severe that I'm seeing

00:53:13.690 --> 00:53:24.530
right here We're gonna make some we're gonna

00:53:24.530 --> 00:53:27.750
go back to the future But uh, what do you think

00:53:27.750 --> 00:53:33.530
of the show too? That's kind of scary for me

00:53:33.530 --> 00:53:42.639
to know Choose Miniature Donkey Farm. I kind

00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:44.159
of like the ring of that. That's something good,

00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.840
right? You ran a miniature donkey from me for

00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:51.099
an hour. Whatever happens happens. Yeah, I got

00:53:51.099 --> 00:53:52.320
you. Whatever happens happens. If it throws you

00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:54.980
off, if it steals your car, that's what happens.

00:53:56.480 --> 00:54:01.300
That's all on you Thank you once again guys for

00:54:01.300 --> 00:54:04.380
tuning in this week next week on the podcast

00:54:04.380 --> 00:54:06.960
we have Freddy Honda tattoo artists I know he's

00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.480
been on the podcast quite a few times as a popular

00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:11.440
owner But this time when he's coming in we're

00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:13.920
gonna talk about his new tattoo tattoo studio,

00:54:13.940 --> 00:54:16.380
man It looks like it's gonna do some damage cuz

00:54:16.380 --> 00:54:19.099
he got some good stuff and I'm up for some ink

00:54:19.099 --> 00:54:23.639
work I'm not sure when it'll be either the day

00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:25.639
before the part or the day after the part But

00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:32.969
I will showcase it on the following podcast Cats

00:54:32.969 --> 00:54:38.030
out of the bag But guys, thank you so much for

00:54:38.030 --> 00:54:40.130
tuning in this week. We will see you next week

00:54:56.760 --> 00:55:01.139
and I will see you next week 730 p .m. on Thursday.

00:55:01.539 --> 00:55:02.880
Laters, gators, peace out!
