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Remember, YouTube status and TikTok. That's your
boy. But today's episode, 248. We have a special
guest with us today. Well, I have talked to a
lot of catch -up, a lot of news to have an eye
on in the RGB, but this one's gonna be a great
one. So, you ready? Let's rock and roll, man.
Things have been happening the last couple of
days. We got mentioned on the World Podcast Network.
World, the other podcasters in the world, there's
an entire network of them, saw our show and gave
us a shout out. Yes. That just like, that just
blows our mind. No kidding man, and consider
the fact that it was an episode like you said,
the one you were on. That's right. That's right.
Irrefutable proof. Yeah, whatever. Who's the
star of the show? well that's why i don't have
you on camera so but today we have a special
guest with us man he was he was writing just
a little nervous but we we calm him down we give
him like four shots of tequila and uh actually
i went through all the trouble to make it work
so we got a special guest with us very very intelligent
young man and a very interesting job he's doing
ladies and gentlemen we'd like to invite And
gladly introduce Mr. Javier Cavazos in the podcast!
What's going on? Javi! I came into the podcast
right now. I know we were talking about we're
just being a little nervous. It's okay. We all
get the sorry jitters. It's not a big deal. It's
like we're pretty much shooting the crap. We're
just shooting the breeze here. We're just going
to get to know you. Where were you last week?
No, I'm just joking. No, man. The way our show
is, Javi, is that we like to get to know the
guests, where they're from, where they grew up,
how they got into what they're doing. By the
way, if you are watching, guys, Javi is, I guess,
co -owner or almost co -owner of this horse stables.
But he reached out to my niece. Shout out to
Ella Rose. Really reached out to me to my knees
and he reached out to me. I like hey man I love
to hang on and the stuff that I've been seeing
online that you post on Instagram It's some nice
stuff horse jumping horse riding before we get
into all that Tell us a little bit about yourself
man. Where you from we grew up and how we got
to who we are right now And basically they don't
know how I got into horses. Right. I was a little
baby probably like what four months old and they
put me on this horse that lasted me a lifetime
and they wanted to like to take me off the horse.
Ain't no way. And you know I started crying and
crying. Ain't no way I'm getting off this thing
mama. Yeah and then since then my passion started
growing stronger and stronger and that's where
I am now. Right and not only this is a horse
that you were saying that uh Through the years
you when you start off at a young age First it
was the writing first was it first? What's the
techniques that you need to learn to get on the
horse good? I'm terrified old bro. I mean look
at I'm an old man Shut up, dude Maybe it is in
a different state, but what does it take for
somebody I know you offer horse riding lessons,
but A lot of people say, you know, you want to
learn, anybody can do it. You just need to be
taught, right? So when you were at that young
age, when you started riding, as you said, a
young baby, they put you on a horse. When you
got up, did you find yourself that you really
want to learn how to ride horses? Yeah, I mean,
since I was a baby, I really didn't understand.
I just liked it, I guess. But when the influenza
came through, like the first case, I got it.
Oh, goodness. And I remember I got really sick.
I was hospitalized. And I started watching this
show called Sattles? Sattles? Something like
that. OK, OK. It was on Netflix. And I saw they
were doing the jumping, western, all of that
stuff. And when I was in quarantine, I would
watch it. And I kept repeating the same episode
over and over again. Right, right. And then I
told my mom, I want to do this. I want to do
the jumping part. And since then, I just. I just
start going and then... I was in middle school
probably. I found a bar and they did the sport.
So from there I started taking lessons, I started
going and then I started developing the professionalism
of the show jumping. Which is the sport that's
called the jumping defenses. And basically people
are like, oh you're just jumping like a big dog
or fences. And technically we are jumping fences.
Only I'm riding them man. I'm riding them. It's
a lot of responsibility. it's really complicated
i mean it is complicated i'm not gonna lie it
is really mentally tiring yeah you have to have
really good mindset you have to be really positive
it's a sport yeah it's a sport and not just you're
the athlete the horse is the athlete right right
you have to make sure that the horse and you
have the connection and make sure that both of
you are mentally stable enough right to make
sure you can do the obstacles right of course
competitions and all the fun stuff yeah because
if your horse doesn't trust you because like
they're you know you met people that are like
all twitchy and everything yeah if they bring
that energy to the horse it's gonna feel that
too yeah my client she is 14 years old and she
came one day and she started pretty good but
she wasn't getting the technique that i was trying
to teach her and she got frustrated So that frustration
made her fall. So I told her, hey, relax, breathe
in, breathe out, make sure that the nerves stay
outside the arena. In the ring, it's just you
and your course and the trainer. So I gave her
a pep talk, everything. She did it again, and
she's like, I don't think I want to jump. I'm
like, OK, you don't want to jump. Let's just
do. But consider the fact that it's it's a live
animal, bro. There's things up. It's not I'm
gonna call it a monster It's a big animal. I
mean, you're about what least four or five feet
in the air. Maybe even 60 Right, right I mean
cuz I've gotten on top of this guy's shoulder.
I get scared man. It's a long drop And believe
me, I will kick him off. I will kick him. He
said on my shoulder. He said that on my shoulder.
On his shoulder. I said shoulders. Yes, you did.
And clearly you did. Let's just move on. So,
I mean, talking about falling off, have there
been any times when you've fallen off the horse?
Oh, many times. Many times I lost count. Which
is the worst one you've had, man? The worst one.
So I was running at this barn that I left due
to Problems, okay, just touch the city, right?
So they give me this mare. She wasn't hundred
percent trained So basically I was training her
and we were doing the course and she gave me
the confidence I was like, okay, we're doing
good But I didn't know that she wasn't ready
to jump the 90 centimeter or 80 was around there
So and there was two it was two jumps. It was
about this wide okay so i was like okay i'm comfortable
i've done this before with different horses right
so i kept pushing her she gave me the confidence
she's gonna jump last minute she uh i draped
this i went flying i felt you jumped i fell on
top of the jumps and my ankle got caught in the
jump so it like it went like this and then my
the point on my like the on my toe went inward
Sprayed my ankle. It was pretty bad. And this
is why I'll never ride a horse Yeah, I mean traveling
through the air and then the horse decides to
stop yeah um that's crazy that's one of the like
falls because i had to get a cast but the second
one was so i'm sorry i'm riding internationally
now i ride in mexico and monterey oh wow okay
wow so i'm competing in both states there you
go and um so we were just practicing it did rain
so the arena was a little there we have a special
like dirt so the horse can like doesn't slip
right unfortunately this horse did slip so and
it was just a very small jump like it wasn't
nothing big it was just really small he jumped
it and we were fine he stumbled and he like bent
his knee tried to get back up and he did so basically
he went down on his knees i went flying and i
landed flat on my back and i couldn't breathe
for like Like getting punched by Tyson bro right
there So, I mean having these uh, like I said
you train people that want to learn how to how
to ride most i'm pretty sure there's a list beyond
list of people that want to come in right are
the first ones that come in say okay i wonder
and when they see the actual horse itself they're
like yeah never mind i don't want to do it or
i mean you've ever had the ones that are actually
back out no one has backed out but did you get
nervous i did have a client who he was like hey
i had this ball And I want to get back into writing
because I get invited to trail rides and all
this fun stuff. I was like, OK, yeah, I can get
you there. But first, I need you to get rid of
your fear. So what we do, even if you're starting,
we get you to know the forest. We get you to
refresh the forest, learn how to tech up. And
then from there, we get you on. And it all depends
on that. I'm like, hey, am I ready? Or I am ready?
Depending on what they tell us, we go off. Okay.
You know what you should do? I mean, this is
just my opinion. I actually heard this story
from my dad. You put them on a donkey first.
If they can survive the donkey... A burro! Put
them on a burro! Put them on a burro! You have
a donkey, so I might think about it. That fear
that they had will quickly be replaced by an
unending rage. But so I mean we have that horse
riding stuff that's going on and now that you
see you're doing jumping also Do you have any
young students that come in to wonder how to
jump also? Wow wow yeah she she started off in
a different blind she didn't like it she got
bored okay she she told her mom mom i don't want
to get bored like take me somewhere else so right
now i'm like okay i can't have her to get bored
or else she'll leave yeah but she started off
really nice uh right now she's trotting and she's
just four years old and trotting is harder than
it looks because you have to like go up and down
in the saddle it's like when you're driving you
put your blinker yes So when you're posting the
trot, you have to go, actually, you have to sit
on the leg that's going the opposite side. So
if you're going this way, you have to sit on
the right shoulder so the horse knows, oh, I'm
going to the left. And then it's the other way
around. So she's starting to learn. She does
get scared. She goes like this. I'm like, hey,
relax. Sit up straight. Everything's going to
be fine. And she's starting to trot, and she's
starting to do a little like. We call it pavilettis,
and so it's a little poor, and she's starting
to go over it little by little. So she's a really
brave girl, because not all four -year -olds
have that courage to take her anger lessons,
especially on a really big horse. No kidding,
no kidding, man. Go ahead. My dad tried to put
me on a horse once, when I was four. I started
screaming and crying, like, who the hell are
you? That's crazy, though. That's amazing. She's
a prodigy in training, sort of. Yeah, yeah, she's
a great little girl. She has a passion for it.
And she has a talent as well. Like every single
day she comes. She comes once a week. So every
single time she comes, she's improving a lot.
And it's just once. If she would come in like
two times or three times a week, she would have
been probably jumping right up. Wow. Wow. And
so do y 'all have like a certain ceremony or
something like that when they graduate from writing
classes or something like that? Not really, so
what happens is like the bar I work at, I write
at, we start by, they start like arena one, arena
two, arena three, arena four, arena five. So
the fifth one is like professionals, the ones
who are jumping like a meter 60, or people who
own courses. So how I do it is like, okay, we
start on phase one. I get you on walking the
horse first on a roundabout. I don't put you
all in the arena yet because the horse can do
something stupid and I don't want them to fall.
So I build the confidence up. We start getting
to know each other as well as the horse and the
trainer. So we start walking. I talk to her.
I start to teach her the basics like heels down,
how to post, how to hold her body up. And then
from there, I'll be like, okay. I talk to parents
and I'll be like, hey. Your daughter or son is
ready to move on to the next phase, right? Are
you willing to like keep pushing them on like
hey, I got your back Like I'm going to support
you no matter what so I talk to them first whatever
the parent says I go and move on with the student
and then one faces and that's how I my My training
is others work differently like they're like,
okay You do this and we're gonna do this now,
right? I like to start with basics first then
after basics. I don't know you're ready for the
next step Let's get you going right right right,
but there's no such like ceremony. Oh, like you've
graduated from phase one, right? Right, right.
It's like a clinic then they do give you like
a certification like oh Here's your certificate
for completing level four or level five, right?
Right, but that's like Yeah, that's more like
oh I want to learn I want to get my technique
like improved like better then I go to clinics
like for example me and right now I'm working
on a certification so I can go like not just
to like Schooling shows, but you bring it shows,
right? So right now my love was basically going
from the meter to the meter 60 So I'm working
on that. Oh, okay. All right guys just to give
you a heads up I'm just getting a phone call
from the wife right now. This is the first time
ever I'm looking outside our studio and It looks
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I'm fine. We're gonna be okay So I'm okay, too,
you know, nobody really cares about you But back
to Javier here so Horse riding itself and this
ranch you have going on. You say it's owned by
your grandfather, correct? No Would you? This
is the way I saw it man when when when Ella was
telling me because you had to talk to my friend
He has ranches and then let me look them up,
you know and see what's going on And I was looking
at the pictures he had man all these these horses
bro left and right I mean all these beautiful
horses then you see him jumping and stuff like
that man. This is a this is a traditional modern
cowboy somebody who knows for sure you know how
to rope a horse also yeah I started from western
like I said charro so I said charro and then
I didn't like it went to western I liked it but
then I was like nah I still want to do jumping
and then I did jumping did you ever did by any
chance did you ever try riding a bull? There's
always that one process that's why cuz I have
a buddy of mine that works with me and he used
to do rodeo and he said dude I used to bull ride
he used to bull ride back in the day and he's
From the age of I think he said from 15 till
he was about at least 22 23. I go why'd you stop?
Bro, you know how bad you get jerked around on
that dang goal I mean I've felt so many times
where I thought it wasn't gonna get up because
the falls are crazy and this is like a raging
bully riding I mean you let alone have your I
mean, like you said, well, here's another one
Have you ever had anybody get bucked off a horse
by accident by spooking the horse by accident?
My students? No, okay But personally, yes, and
I've seen it from my friends who also ride I
mean I've been bucked off so many times my horse
has reared on me and I've fallen so basically
like it is a dangerous sport like rodeo charro
the equestrian community it's really dangerous
because you don't know like let's say today I
would have gotten ride I don't know if my horse
today is feeling it exactly he might start bucking
he might start like kicking he might start biting
So we always have to be like, okay, today cannot
be, it could be my day, but it cannot be a horse.
Right. I used to work with a manager way back
in the day who rode horses. He was part of a
horse club also. I think they're based here in
Elsa Mercedes. I'm not sure where they're from.
But I used to see that he would watch videos
on horse training. on how to keep up from being
spooked. There was some stuff that I saw like,
man, this is just wrong, bro. The way they're
treating their horses, how to like not to be
spooked. Some use like a plastic bag that would
channel around their face so they can get used
to it. I mean, are all these traditional techniques,
are there certain techniques that you know, to
train a horse? Yes, so obviously there's a lot
of different type of trainers. There's the abuser
ones and the ones who take it step by step. so
like for example I have a little mare she was
just born like last month I think so When we
get we wanted to get her started like on writing
so we're gonna start first like with the halter
Make sure she does she feels comfortable in it
make sure like she doesn't spook or doesn't spook
at humans, right? So we start like little by
little so we get them as babies if there's a
chance, right? So we get them as babies we start
with the halter We start like walking them into
like all these type of obstacles like trees branches
loud noises Caves and stuff like that and like
the bags, right? personally i love the bag one
because like you can open an umbrella you can
have something like a coat on and basically that's
going to help the force not to spook not to throw
you off right that's called desensitization okay
i understand did you understand huh exactly So
we just started we started step by step I've
gotten so many horses abused Skinny and what
the purpose of my barn is to make sure the horse
look healthy Make sure they don't they don't
spook make sure they're they're kids safe for
the kids right right right not just for kids
but for anyone who wants to ride them and We
just we just want them to be happy as well as
like the riders, right? that's our purpose of
our barn. Right. Because I've been to multiple
barns. I did not do good. My horse was abused.
I was like not abused, but I was going through
it as well. Right, right. Because I lost lessons
because my horse was sick and all because like
the They weren't getting the proper care. Right,
right, right, right. Because I've seen, I mean,
everybody's gone to a parade. They usually at
the very end or the very beginning you have the
horses that come in, they're riding. And I love
watching them. They're fun to watch as a young
kid. Now that I'm getting older and I see them,
you really learn to look at the real aspects
of something to it. I remember... It was like
nine twelve years ago. Uh, we were at uh watching
a an event a parade i'm sure it was the mercedes
Livestock show when they were doing the riding
the horses or not. I can't remember exactly what
parade but I see these riders, you know older
gentlemen, you know And you know, they're making
them dance walk to the side and stuff like that
Okay, but at the same time you're looking at
the horse gnawing on the uh, what is it called?
The bit yeah, yeah, they're biting on it. But
at the same time I see them, you know hitting
them on the sides what the hell are they doing?
And I'm looking at this horse and there's some
horses that I see like, man, this horse is bleeding,
man. What are you doing? And I go, God damn.
And you see them shoving the spur against the
spur. They go like, bro, just a little tap will
make them move. You don't have to shank them
in there. But I mean, I don't know. I don't know
the first thing of. Riding the horse is how to
train a horse or anything like that You know
guitar player can say and you're gonna beat the
crap out of your fingers when you're jamming
You know, that's just gonna make your make your
cows is bigger and stronger. That's Mike's used
by seeing that I mean to me as a as a as a civilian
Watching this you feel bad for the horses, you
know, but I mean the way the way I've seen Videos
of you when you're riding doesn't look like you're
doing that at all You know, I think some of these
vehicles need to come learn from you, buddy Mean,
but have you seen that and when you go right?
Yeah It's something really important that us
as equestrians we want to get the word out there
to stop the abuse of horses Especially the dancing
horses. They get chains on their feet. They get
really intense bits where they're opening their
mouth So they only have one way to breathe And
it's through their nose and then through their
throat. So when they're opening their mouth with
the harsh bit, they're like this, right? So they're
knocking their airway. So there's no way for
them to breathe. So that's why they start foaming
off in the mouth or just start to get rebellious.
Like they start kicking, they start biting because
they feel uncomfortable. And also you can tell
by their face. You can tell when a horse is sad
or a horse is angry. When a horse is not comfortable,
you can just tell by their ears, their eyes.
Their eyes is like, it's something like... for
me it's the most beautiful thing a horse can
have because that's how i know if they're happy
if they're sad or there's something in their
body is making them feel comfortable right right
so when i go to these parades and i see them
myself i can't watch right and yes like personally
i do use spurs but i don't use those like star
spurs like the westerns the traditional the traditional
ones Right, right, right it's really sad to see
all these horses being treated so badly and that
there's no one doing nothing about it right right
right just letting them be and honestly for me
that's actually that's abuse like that's not
good for the horses at the end of the day you
want to ride your horse one day it's going to
buck you up because you're it's already been
it's been through it's been through torture already
it's been tortured already yeah and you know
and i see that i would see that in most parades
you know and and i would freak out like wow man
It makes you think about a Family guy when one
of the horse breaks his leg because I'm sorry,
but we're gonna have to put take y 'all back
I can still stand on it. Look you see you see
then he gets away. I guess on it back. Yeah,
come on You know, and I think yeah, what if what
if the horse could write the damn person? Bingo
and that's because I wasn't watching it It's
a good example of how horses want to express
themselves just by bucking you off, kicking you,
biting you when they're being put through a lot.
So personally for me, I don't like the dancing
horses. We do have dressage, but it's more safer.
It's more calm, more elegant, more bougie, I
guess you could say. But the western and the
chariot, it's a little bit more. It also depends.
The trainer or the trainer, right? Like for example
me if I see my horse having a bad day, I'm not
getting my student on the horse. Right. I find
a different horse and we start from basics or
I teach them that hey look this horse is not
having a good day. Right. I'm gonna teach you
something and we don't get on. Right. Until the
horse is feeling better. Right. But I prefer
to have my student safety and the horse. More
like, I guess you could say chew like a self
-reflection. Like from owner to horse or from
horse to owner, you know? You know the horse
is a diabetic. feed him something you know brush
his hair or pet him okay we're not going to do
that today don't worry about it we're going to
relax if you if you look at the horse as a friend
you know what would you do if your friend was
in a bad mood you try to make him cheer him up
yeah cheer him up cheer him up if you're just
looking at the horse like it's a piece of property
then you don't really care what what mood it's
in and i mean that's that's kind of the attitude
you see you know with a lot of the older styles
of uh yeah i mean you when they're when the human
is ready to go it doesn't matter if the horse
is ready to go it's got to go right and it's
got to do what it's told it's it's more like
the how can i say the dominant you know i'm the
dominant you're gonna do what i tell you to do
and what's on and then listening to Javier speak
it's like it's a 50 50 if you're not feeling
it I'm not feeling it when you're ready to go,
but if I need to do something you gotta go Hey,
I sided with you last time. I said with me this
time. Come on. Let's let's go You know it's sort
of it's sort of like a like a football team You
know you're coaching and you need you need them
to Go out there and do their job, but sometimes
you're just they're just not feeling it It's
not in the it's not in the cards. You know what
I mean? he wouldn't listen to me he would like
just bolt off and I left I got off with my hands
like almost up to beating like they were red
because I was like yanking like hey like calm
down calm down um so I was like you know what
let's just make it short and simple I finished
with flat work which is just like walking trotting
sometimes it's like little poles and I ended
the day because I was like I'm not going to push
my course to its limits because I'm having a
good day I don't want to fall off and I don't
want to injure my course either So I was like,
I'll just call it a day. And then we just let
the horse be, give him a nice shower, let him
graze, and let him be horses. Because if you
don't let him be horses, you're not going to
get the results that you want. Right. Exactly.
Exactly. We're going to take a pause right now.
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off on this man as far as the club wise How does
being in a I've heard when I hear clubs? Think
of iron horse. I think of motorcycle guys driving
around their bikes, you know going from town
to town But this is a club of riders. Am I correct?
Of people that ride horses. Yeah. Now, how do
you get into it something to get something involved
like that? Take take us through that How much
time do we got like riders it's also like we
do boarding we do parties photo shoots so honestly
i don't know how we get got into a club i mean
all the bars you have they give you look look
them up on online or instagram facebook they're
gonna let go like monarch stables equation club
right right but i guess you can say club um because
they all have their little branches. For me,
my barn is JC Question Club, so it's my club
only, because it's mine. They're like Monarch.
Monarch and Question Club. So it's kind of like
high school and have the little clubs. It's kind
of basically like that. Do you have to be part
of the actual stable itself to get into this
club? Are there certain ways to get in? No, I
mean if you want a horse and you want a board
you can be part of the JC Western club. All right
Okay, and so I mean as far as like my camera
just went out I've got to fix it right now, but
uh Take us a little bit on what I want to know
is When you first rode your your first time you
rode your horse and you went to jumping for the
first time The first time you went jumping for
the first time in your horse What did that feel
like doing your first jump? I mean what what
was the? The talk up. What was the how did you
get yourself to do it pretty much? Honestly It
felt good It feels like you're flying but you
do get nervous because you know if the horse
is actually gonna make it over the jump But since
I've been watching videos since I was like like
when I got the flu and stuff. I was like, okay
I didn't know what I was doing right right right
my turn was like go go go over it do it and I
was like okay so I just watched I'm a visual
learner so I was watching everybody go I was
like okay they're doing this so like I'm not
gonna lie you get that adrenaline inside of you
like oh wow like the horse can jump like it's
gonna feel like Cool. Yeah, right. Especially
when the height keeps going higher and higher,
it feels like you're flying. And honestly, my
whole problem, they're gone. I'm just focused,
like, oh, you look cool. Because I'm flying over
these jumps. So it feels really cool. It feels
like you're flying. But basically, I like to
see it like, oh, God gave me a horse. So with
the horse, I have wings. So that's how I see
it. You got a Pegasus. Look at you. That's pretty
cool, man. And as far as like, I know, I mean,
riding a motorcycle back in the day, I mean,
when you're riding, it's nothing compared to
being a horse, but the feeling of riding on that
machine, just like you're riding on that animal,
you know, everything just melts away. Being on
a motorcycle when you ride, you just, you feel
the wind hitting your face, you're riding and
it feels amazing. Consider the fact you got vehicles
coming up to ride on you, but it feels amazing
because you're riding on your own You're by yourself.
You are one with this machine. I mean when you
have you're gone for long rides I mean just non
-stop on your horses. Oh so many times I like
to see the scenery of our ranch and just ride
until the sunset and just just connect a little
bit from the real world and just me and my horse
And I also like my horse to have fun while we're
out there. So I've done it so many times and
even when I don't jump, I walk my horse out and
I take him to the back to go see the cows, to
see the everything. So it's really nice because
you get to disconnect a little bit and you get
to breathe in fresh air and just... Relax and
something that I just found out that is like
I was breathing in and breathing out And I didn't
notice that my force was doing it with me. Oh
I guess he was feeling that I was just relaxed
and he was like, oh my god so like this like
horses feel everything they feel when you breathe
they feel when you take tests when you test up
right when your heart stops because like there's
times where like i stop breathing and my heart
kind of like stops after like they do something
like oh i'm going to fall so like they feel everything
even if like you're really sad they know you're
sad right they make the best That's another thing
I want to ask you is I've known I know there's
a couple of stables that do offer therapy equal
therapy for that and I know I my wife and I want
to take our son one time to get that because
my son's really into horses also when he was
younger younger younger lad he loved horses even
as a young kid but we never really pursued it
but I have seen do you offer that in your stables
also as far as like therapy As for now, not yet.
But I am thinking, because you do have to be
certified to do equine therapy. Because it's
like if you're a nurse. So it does take its time.
But it is in the future. In the future we will
have equine therapy. But I think my mom is watching.
Hi mom. My mom got surgery from her spine, neck
and lower back and i remember after like the
recovery and everything she couldn't turn and
she couldn't like she would like just do this
to this side okay but to the other side actually
and with the time she she was like oh i don't
want this you can ride you don't just have to
like just stay there right like not do all what
i do right so uh but you're really proud of her
she started writing oh that's good and she she
she started to have more mobility in her and
her spine her neck her arms she was able to stretch
her legs after so many years of not being able
to do exercise right so i was like you see all
the power that horses have you don't just have
to like oh i don't jump and do all this stuff
no you can just do basics the walking maybe just
trotting right maybe a little bit of carrying
depending on the condition of the rider right
and also like uh i have my student when she was
a baby she had a metal plate on her hip so she
has it so whenever she gets on she like bends
her knee so she doesn't get on like oh a swing
no she has to like bend her her knee and then
get on right and she she started like her leg
so when you're jumping you have to have a nice
stable leg you cannot just have a moving back
close then when you land to the other side you're
not going to be balanced enough so i started
working on her i was like okay we need to get
your legs Stable enough if you really want to
jump and if you want to compete, right? And she
starts to jump with a better stable leg She's
able to push your heels down and basically courses
help you out a lot especially if you do bareback,
which is Basically no saddle. Yeah, that's not
the cars you're having So we point therapy actually
they get the kids But the reason is because the
heat of the forest helps the kids a lot cousin
to equal therapy and he couldn't speak and he
started speaking oh wow wow so it helps a lot
it helps a lot not just us but also kids with
autism right where kids with like are paralyzed
right it's uh it's something that you know us
as uh as humans we don't realize how much power
a certain little animal can Affect your life
or anything, you know, just like these like little
service dogs, you know, they that they have a
lot of these older adults even younger younger
kids that have them to help with their anxiety
or help with anything that they're in their lives,
you know, and it's it's it's nuts how Us as humans
go now. Don't worry about he's gonna be okay
Just let him relax and these little you get this
little service dog or a horse or like you get
them close to these animals and they just like
it's like It's what's so crazy sometimes, you
know, that the power of an animal can do on a
human being. It's thoughts, man. It's thoughts.
So, as far as the horse riding and all that good
stuff, what do you like to do in your time off?
I mean, what is after when you're not out there
in the stables with your horse? Don't tell me,
oh, I just like to stay in the stables. No, that's
not true. What do you like to do in your time
off when you're away? Limit the cowboy So basically,
I try to keep myself busy just because I don't
want to be all day cooped up in the house. Right.
So yeah, I mean, I mean, in my free time, I go
ride. I train myself and my course personally.
So that's what I basically do on my free time
besides sleeping. Right, right. But yeah, that's
what I do. I'm basically 24 -7 at the barn most
of the time. Wow, wow. Now, another question.
I mean, have you had anybody considering that
you have a stable out there? I'm pretty sure
there's always... Can say and I'm gonna dip into
the into the Into the musical arts people because
a lot of people like to do videos in certain
areas You know has anybody approached you of
doing videos in your stables or on your ranch
or anything like that? And when that what's the
process of that just to get somebody that all
these guys around you we can do a music video
though we can Hold a scenery for a movie or you
know, what are they is there a certain way or
what steps? She reached out to me because she
wanted to ride because she wanted to come out
writing kind of like that Like in the movies
like they're writing there's music in the background.
That's what she wanted so she's like hey we actually
have like four weeks i was like four weeks i
was like how am i going to get you ready in four
weeks like it takes at least six months for you
to be 100 ready or not 100 but like an 89 percent
ready right and she was like well i'll come every
single day like all these four weeks and to get
ready and i was like okay so honestly i don't
know what i did but i got her ready for weeks
and the day of her She was a pro. She was riding
out there with the horse. She wasn't Leading
horses back and forth and wow nice Wow, so yeah
I got her ready for weeks and she had the most
beautiful wedding music video I think we had
to call hobby Javier the horse whisperer Colossus
now, bro That's crazy man, it's crazy too. I
mean it's like you said four weeks Uh, yeah,
that ain't happening. It's like me trying to
teach somebody to play guitar in four weeks Hey,
I got a gig coming in four weeks and he just
showed me how to play like 10 songs. Yeah, that
ain't happening It's the truth man, I mean it
takes time to learn these things man for her
to she must That just proves another point uh,
uh also choose like if you really want something
you really want to go for it. You're gonna You
know force yourself to learn something because
you need to get it done. You know I'm pretty
sure through the years Writing yourself. I mean
I'm pretty sure you when you did your first job
You were scared out of your mind, but you push
yourself to get there I mean was this your idea
to jump start jumping or was it something that
somebody else trying to encourage you to do that
Series and movies of the jumping. I always wanted
to do it. I always wanted to try it. So yeah,
it was basically my idea. My mom was scared because
she was like That's a mom I did feel a little
bit restrained because she was like all these
injuries they will lecture me like all these
injuries They're gonna have them when you get
older. They're gonna feel it later. Not gonna
lie. I do feel them, but I don't care So information
how can people reach out to you if they want
to head out to your to your ranch or to your
stables and they want to Learn how to horseback
ride. They want to learn how to maybe train the
horse on their own horse Or maybe someone has
them just recently bought a horse and they want
to go out there and you know They want to board
the horse in your stables. What information can
you offer me for the all that information? Yeah,
the social media is also And we post a lot on
Facebook in July, where we'll be having a summer
camp for 10 years and 17 year olds. And it's
going to be fun. There's going to be a lot of
kinds of activities. They're going to have tug
of war, water balloon fights, arts and crafts.
And at the end of each day, they're going to
be able to ride a horse, learn how to tack, and
learn how to groom, and basically the anatomy
of a horse. wow so we have that this uh this
coming month that's awesome oh and we also have
horse shows for those who like they want to ride
we do take them to horse shows okay cool so we
go to competitions we i have one this july 28th
and july 27th and we go to corpus it's called
a schooling show because we start out with Basics
like just so they can get like their nerves and
start getting to know like oh this is what a
horseshoe feels like Imagine how the big horseshoes
feel like. So we get them out there and then
with time we take them to bigger horseshoes and
if they they're able to travel then we can also
take them to Mexico. Wow that's pretty cool man.
It's more than four weeks. It's not going to
be a miracle. No it's going to be a time process.
Guys if you look at the screen right now I have
actually the Excuse me, the actual QR code that
you can reach on there to get a hold of Javier
here. It's right there on your right. If you
look to his left, your right, you can go and
scan it. It's on the screen, bro. You can get
all the information through there. So you get
everything you need to know to actually learn
how to ride a horse and all that good stuff he
just made. And also all the information that's
going to happen further down the way as far as
events for his club and also for the stables
that he has out there. I mean, first of all,
I want to say we're 48 minutes in but i want
to say uh what you're doing as far as uh instructing
young young uh young kids to go into this art
uh you know consider the fact this is an art
that's been around for a long time but very free
pursuit uh horse riding uh it's something a very
big part of our culture yes it is especially
the as far as the latino culture, it's a very
big part of our culture. You know, for years,
my dad lived in Mexico and he said he had a horse
of his own, he would ride his horse all over
the place. And I never believed him until my
uncle has a ranch here, north of Wessico. And
he, I think I was like, I think it was like 19,
18 years old at the time. And I saw him jump
on one and he took off on like, yeah, it's like
riding a bike, you never forget. It's weird,
you know, the that's something I think everybody
in their in their lifetime should try to learn,
you know, ride a horse, you know, be one with
an animal, go and go on the open range and just
take off. But first learn the steps. Don't just
say, I'm gonna borrow your horse, I'm gonna jump
on that, wham, never mind, I'm out. But to learn
that, I mean, how long was the training take?
More or less. It's when I get professional, I
mean you never stop Okay, I keep learning every
single day But I started jumping Probably like
two three months in depending on how fast the
person learns, right? So it all depends also
on the rider if they learn fast will probably
take him four months three months Maybe two depending
on how they're learning and for me personally
it took me It took me years to get where I am
now. But when I started training my own horses,
it was during the pandemic. So we were staying
in Mexico, and I had a ranch in Mexico as well,
and I had chattel horses. And I was like, I don't
want to do chattel. I don't like it. It was just
like circles to one side, circles to another,
cannon and slide. That's it. I was like, I don't
want to do that. so i was like you know what
this horse has the basic training let me see
if they if this horse will is willing to jump
so i started off first with the lunge line it's
a lead line on the circle right i see what the
how the horse moves okay they look fancy enough
i think they can do this then i i'd like well
back then in the ranch again have actual jumps
so i would start off with two bricks and just
the branch of a tree I'm like, okay, let's start
off. So I started off with a pole and then I
started raising it up little by little. And then
I'm like, okay, this one has potential. Then
I got on and I started to teach them the basics
of show jumping. And then that's how I started
building it up. Well, that's good to know, man.
Like I said, it's in our heritage to learn all
that good stuff, man. Because one day, you never
know. Apocalypse come by and those things are
right as a horse. You better know what the hell
you're doing Too bad for you That's really gonna
help Well, it's it's something something but
no having worse I want to say thank you so much
for coming out Having a good time. I know you're
a little bit nervous, but the nerves look like
they came off already So you did a great job
on the podcast for the first time you've done
a podcast. Thank you so much for coming I want
to say thank you so much man, and what you're
doing is is great man What you do as far as the
stable? It's it's it's wonderful You know keep
up the good work and who knows later down the
line. You're probably gonna be one of those high
caliber riders that are on tv they're okay you
they have the infomercials if you want to ride
a horse hey it may happen it may not but all
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