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Rose. Hi! She came down to visit us. You saw
the last episode. We had her and her friend in
here talking about tech to tech. So she's coming
here. She said, I want to be in the podcast one
time. But as a co -host for today's episode.
Yeah, just for today's episode. So don't get
carried away, guys. Don't get carried away. Maybe
she'll come back again later on. But we have
a special guest with us today and I can't wait
to get to it. Unfortunately, Chu's not here today,
but he will be here next week on Tuesday when
we interview Stephanie Madolny, voice actor for
Kid Goku. She will be video interviewed next
week on Tuesday at 7 30 p .m. But let's get going.
Ready? Yes, I'm ready. Let's rock and roll. On
a special occasion first of all because we're
going live on youtube and it's been a while now
that we got Associated as being a actual channel
now. It's freaking awesome. Uh, but uh today
in the podcast gentleman He's been on the podcast
twice. It'll be his third time a good friend
of the podcast. Mr Abel González del Toro in
the podcast was what's up people? Hey guys for
my third time that's right every time I get And
I mean it's glad to have you back again once
again our podcast man, yeah, we have Jump from
podcast studio the studio, but I think we officially
got our home here and we've got a good equipment
right now we actually Are running live on what
we're gonna do for those guys that you guys are
watching on Facebook Make sure you're tuned into
the YouTube channel because we won't be going
Facebook live anymore It's gonna be YouTube live
now. So we have a home set ready to go, but that's
real We'll talk more about that later on down
the line down the podcast, but able it's uh,
let's rewind back little history of you. I know
there might be some new people watching right
now that want to know everything about you. So
let's start from the top and let's get to know
you all over again. Introduce yourself from the
very beginning. Let's go. My name is Abel Gonzales
de Toro. That's my stage name. I do some acting,
some writing, some producing. And so I created
a company called Axiom Films. When you listen
to these pundits about writing and film and stuff,
they say, find your voice. So you find your voice,
and you'll have a message, and then you'll get
noticed. Well, being a minority, being in a demographic
that doesn't matter to a lot of people, not only
do you have to be your voice, you also have to
be your marketer. Not only do you have to be
your marketer, you have to be your financier.
So what I did was I... I took a step back from
the actual filmmaking to learn how to produce.
I invested my own money into hiring a manager,
hiring a line producer, and learning the steps
that it takes to be a union signatory. That means
basically I'm a certified employer for any movie
star out there that I can bring down and get
into a deal with. So what makes a movie popular?
Now we're talking about algorithms and thumbnails.
Because, let's face it, we're not going to get
a movie into a theater. So our first step as
independent filmmakers is to get on a streaming
platform. We can get on 2B, on Amazon, or Hulu.
But what drives traffic to a title is its thumbnail
and the algorithm. So first of all, you've got
to get recognizable names in that thumbnail.
And the recognizable names are all union actors.
And so that's where that idea came from. Let
me learn the business. I went out to LA to meet
showrunners and producers, like entrance film
festivals. That's where the idea came to make
a movie that has at least three known Hollywood
actors in the valley with a complete cast of
production team and supporting actors. that are
in the valley that will get paid my mission is
to make an industry in the valley where actors
and production people writers musicians because
music is so much as much a part of a movie as
the writing Think that is true. Look up how many
times Rolling Stones have been used in a movie.
Led Zeppelin, you know. All those songs, you
hear them over and over again. And they dictate
the theme and the pacing of the movie. So I got
a kid that's willing to score my movie, plays
several instruments, writes and reads sheet music.
But he's never done anything professional Okay,
I got you, you know, there's no outlet for him
You know, so I said I'm gonna teach you not that
I know but we'll figure it out together how to
score my movie with a violin I wanted to have
this kind of Similar to no country for old men
I haven't seen it but I have seen it. and they
give him a scholarship plus a bribe to play.
He's a five -star recruit. He comes to this fictional
little town. A blue chipper pretty much, yeah.
A blue chipper? Yeah. And he comes to this town
where they've never won anything. And they want
to win. And they got the money, but it's not
per se legal money, you know? Is this kind of
prior to, I mean, I hate to bring old news or
bad news or anything, but this is prior to back
when... and this is going way back to Hurricane
Katrina at one time where a lot of these players
were from Louisiana transferred to San Antonio
and there was actual coaches that were trying
to get some of these players to come to their
schools as blue like the way you're saying blue
chip players did you go in that kind of format
yeah it was way before the NIL deal the NIL basically
that's college players get paid now They can
be on a video game, they can get an endorsement
deal. Some of these players make more money with
the NIL deals. There's one quarterback in Michigan
I think he's holding off for $10 million. And
rookies, Shadour Sanders signed a deal today
for four years for $4 .6 million. And he probably
made $20 million in NIL. But it's the next step
for him, so he has to take it. so in this story
the guy takes the money to come down here and
a couple of them and it's got bagman and this
crooked cartel family that's behind in the woodworks
in the weeds but we're actually not gonna use
the word cartel because it turns a lot of people
off I'm a business man if it comes down to making
a movie and not I would rather take the word
out It's basically what some politicians called
the way they depicted the valley in the news
or in politics that you know that there's drug
dealers on every corner and child trafficking
everywhere. The bad ombres. You know who I'm
talking about. We're not saying things. But we're
gonna give them a thing. In this fictional world,
that stuff happens all the time. And this guy
gets involved in it. But before he gets his back
against the wall, He really enjoys that. He's
from a small farm town in America. And he enjoys,
you know, the ladies and the parties and all
that. He runs out of money and he asks for more.
So he has to do something for that family that
gets him in trouble. He gets kicked off the team.
And then flash forward 20 years later, he's a
washed up personal trainer and... Like I said
it kind of goes back to the whole thing we were
talking about the hurricane Katrina thing and
a lot of families move from Louisiana to the
Houston area to the Dallas San Antonio Austin
area Just to get their kids back to school, but
some of these coaches I mean this is through
what I've read and that's what I've seen you
know you know that I read the paper and so like
that that some coaches were caught blue chipping
some of these kids into their into their district
so they can use them as I guess secret weapons
commonplace to have people you see it in high
school there's some coaches that they they hint
to a kid that they could possibly make that team
and the parents will pick up and move into that
yes yeah it happens a lot of state you know here
we don't have that kind of thing because nobody
wants it no offense in soccer and baseball our
frame I say ours because baseball teams do really
well, soccer teams do really well, you know.
We have an 80 -halves softball team from last
year. Yeah, state champions. State champions
ended up on ESPN and sometimes I put on that
YouTube thing when I'm down and I need to get
motivated because why not us? I don't know any
of them personally. Yeah. I was born here in
Wisconsin. Right. Yeah. But I lived in Cachosa.
I went to school there. But to see those ladies
and they didn't get their graduation on the field
the week before, the day before, and they missed
out on all of that stuff. Yeah. They were in
state. That's the thing. Well, two years before.
And I still remember that game I was watching
I was watching bits and pieces that game I had
coach Strowman on the podcast He said he was
there and he had gotten a phone call from the
UIL Office you know, this is the last inning,
you know the score was like nine to three or
I don't know what the score was something like
that and they started to go start getting the
girls ready line them up so we can give them
their second place trophy blah blah blah it's
like okay then all of a sudden you saw one run
come in and then another one and another then
the bases were loaded I mean what there's got
to be somebody out there out in the valley right
now trying to put piece this together because
to be in the bottom of the line of what he needed
was Already two outs. I mean one out, two outs.
The bases are loaded, you're up to bat. The first
pitch comes in, poof, gone. Grand slam, the game
is over. A shock. It was cinematic. It was beautiful.
It was beautiful. People were jumping on fences
into the yard. It was crazy, man. What we're
talking about, before we go any further, before
we're talking about, as far as you being a screenwriter
and a director itself, as far as study from scratch
because i like you asked me if i got any schooling
for this for a podcast i go no basically was
a musician and just just fell in fell into my
lap and started doing it for yourself did you
you did you want to go to school with this or
you say you know what i'm just going for it i've
always wanted to be a writer and i have a fascination
with books but i also have this attention deficit
disorder okay so if i start reading a book i'll
start creating the ending instead of reading
the book. And I'll flip through four or five
pages, and I'll have to go back and read it again.
I go, that never happened in the book. My version's
better. Let me write it down. And I've always
dreamed big. I've been a daydreamer. I would
get in trouble at school for not paying attention.
But dude put a standardized test in front of
me. I had scored in the 98th percentile. And
the nerds back in school would say, how did you
do that? You can't even spell. It's because my
brain thinks different. I can't sit down and
learn the way you guys do. I was always fidgeting,
and they didn't know what it was back then. You
know what I mean? And so I went to college, and
I took composition one. I said, this is where
I was writing my first. screenplay in 1996 and
going to college and taking comp one and I got
my my essay back from the teacher and there was
35 mistakes for basic grammar like commas and
apostrophes and she wrote in the top she's like
wait why can't you learn how to use a comma but
this is very imaginative but you read it right
you read it She literally said it in front of
class she came in frustrated one day and she
said there's a guy Has the potential to be a
great writer, but it's like he didn't go to school
and i and i've always said i've always needed
a scribe to tell hey you know like like how the
pharaohs just say let it be written let it be
said i just command you write it down it's your
job to write it down for me so you need you so
what you're saying right now is you need somebody
walking with you at a pretty much 90 90 percent
of the day write this down i know here's my secretary
wrote this script right I wrote this script.
I've been writing it in my head for years. I
was a personal trainer before I put all this
weight on. And I had an idea, I would go to Guadalajara
every year and I'd work out from there. And I'd
see the ladies and I was like, these ladies are
beautiful. They won't even look at guys. They
must have a husband, you know, boyfriends or
whatever. They're just there to do their workout.
And I said, imagine if a thug and... or whatever
got into his head that the trainer was messing
around with his wife, whether it was true or
not. What would he do to that guy? And so I've
been writing this story in my mind for years.
And she was asking me, what kind of movies are
those? Oh, they're pretty graphic. They're pretty
graphic. I've done movies for other people. The
movies that I've written are crime dogs. My favorite
movies are... The Godfather, The Wizard of Oz,
and you know the third one always changes sometimes
it's pulp fiction and sometimes it's like casino
you know depending on how I feel but what it
is that I write about is morality you know the
of man's moral compass when I say man I don't
mean man you know you've seen that movie with
There's something that we will do to get ahead
and there's things that we won't do but yet People
will justify breaking the law if it's for their
family if it's to get ahead if it's to Like maybe
get grandma that surgery she needs pretty much
like survival of the fittest So that's my fascination
like the surprise is one of my favorite all -time
favorite shows and it's a tale of morality it's
like this guy would do he tried to kill his own
mother he tried to do a lot of things family
members weren't safe because he had to the business
was first you know the family's second his immediate
family was second And so that's the kind of stories
that I write about. Unfortunately, we live in
a very impoverished area, and you'll see people
do things that they shouldn't. And you know who
I'm talking about. Without saying any names.
you know you see it on the news all the time
and you see a house in the middle of foreign
country that's got five foreign cars and stuff
and nobody wants to die here you know what i
mean but that's that's my fascination is how
can a man talk himself into that he could easily
talk himself into being good but what makes you
say you know what if i go to prison Have you
been stalking me now? Have you been stalking
me now? Have you been stalking me now? Have you
been stalking me now? Have you been stalking
me now? Have you been stalking me now? Have you
been stalking me now? Have you been stalking
me now? Have you been stalking me now? Have you
been stalking me now? Have you been stalking
me now? Have you been stalking me now? Have you
been stalking me now? Have you been stalking
me now? Have you been stalking me now? Have you
been stalking me now? Have you been stalking
me now? Have you been stalking me now? Have you
been stalking me now? Have you been stalking
me now? Have you been stalking me now? Have you
been stalking me now? What a person or a society
would do to get over on somebody else. I won't
lie to you man. I really got into watching my
wife and I actually sat through the whole actually
I did because I just kept going without her watching
it. But I got into land man. And another one
I just finished was Tulsa King. Tells me I'm
like damn these are great series He was a sheriff
on there. He did hell or high water. He did a
lot of stuff that's morally ambiguous. I hope
I used that word right. But, you know, it's real
easy in this political climate to blame people.
it's human nature right right i'm pretty sure
you have republican and democratic fans and we
it's like they divided us by who's just and who's
not right this party says well these are all
free -loading criminals and the other party says
well they're a bunch of rich uh people that are
just using everybody else so like it's the same
thing it's a person's Desire to survive Famous
is not what you think it is. It's like, it made
me think. I was like, I don't want to be famous.
I want to tell stories. Right. You know, I want
to live comfortably doing something that I love.
And I want to help others do the same. There's
a lot of talent in this town. In this town alone,
there's a lot of talent. The Woollen and Westico
Festival is right down the road. You know, they
just had their April shows. Man, next year, you
guys gotta participate. You gotta bring them
on. My buddy, Alango Martinez, he runs that.
He is like a fespion. He's gonna be in my movie.
He went to school for acting. He knows Shakespeare
inside and out. I always get this wrong, but
there's like a degree. Like, it's a doctorate
in the arts. FMLA, FMA, or FDA, I don't know.
You're constipated. Wrong field! No, but yeah,
it's like a doctorate in the arts. And this guy
has that for acting. Unless I was drinking. This
guy is wrong. That's what you say, Lake! Yeah,
and I was like, he's so talented, man. He's my
buddy, you know. We just connected. I've only
known him for two years. I've done a lot of things.
Like six or seven plays. And the thing with plays...
that's different than film because i know joshua
was talking about his first documentary took
him two years to make that's why people give
up two years to get the satisfaction and the
accolades of somebody watching it right let's
be honest that's why you make a film for somebody
to watch exactly then for somebody to like it
then eventually for somebody to It's all good,
man. I do it too. and say you do eight performances
that day, and you can make it different every
time. Every single day? I'm telling you a funny
story. Well, it's funny to me. And it's funny,
and it's funny now. All right, all right. But
it wasn't funny in the past. Funny in the past.
Yeah, I got you. I love those, Sherry. Well,
I was the male lead for the Park Community Theater.
Shout out to Fedor Mafia, my acting coach. There
you go. He's at the Park Community Theater. And
so I didn't know anything about acting. I took
a class about writing and my teacher asked me,
hey man, I saw you do other classes for like
nailing a cold read and a rehearsal and all that.
I go, I'm gonna audition, I think I'm gonna do
it man. I saw it on Facebook, I wanna audition.
He goes, come by Thursday, sit in on the audition
in class and we'll show you how to go into an
audition. it's cold read that means you don't
get to rehearse the lines before they tell you
here's the paper here's your direction this is
what you're trying to achieve in the scene oh
crap okay boom you gotta do it and so my first
time audition for the far community theater they
gave me a role in the room and he said not to
tell anybody I saw my parents come see me and
my parents had never been like really against
the theater movie thing but they've always been
very supportive you know and an article came
out in the paper and my dad clipped it and put
it there in a scrapbook and stuff but to watch
them watch me perform and it was amazing so they
gave me When your parents watched you oh, you
know, i'm gonna put the camera on here When your
parents watched you on stage and you did your
performance did they I mean did they like Sit
up like yeah, that's this is me already like
that Was that like my mom did my dad's very stern
and quiet. Okay, like now that we're older, um,
you know, I we talk and we'll chill out The last
four days, we've worked on, he had a little shop
behind his house and I'll go over and have a
beer with him. He's working on some stuff with
me. I have a barbecue pit, a smoker. Well, they
do all kinds of, you know, odds and ends. And
he's just, he cracked a little smile, but that
one was a very family oriented thing. So I got
Oscar to lead a role in a very dark drama called
Come Back Little Shiva. okay so it's about a
doctor an alcoholic doctor in the 50s that loses
everything and he has to take in a tenant to
pay the bill he's got an extra room and it's
a beautiful college co -ed and he just starts
thinking man my wife's just it's all her fault
you know she never had a kid for me she never
supported me okay she's not there for me emotionally
the dog was shiba The dog ran away. That's how
bad this woman was. You know? So the name of
the play is Come Back Little Sheba. She's always
in the road with her curlers in her hair. And
this guy's trying to stay clean. And he sees
this college boy and he just gets an idea. It's
like, man, if I could start all over again with
a beautiful girl like this. You know how old
men think? They think they put the... Yes, I
have heard. watching this thing unfold and the
milkman's hitting on my wife and she gets a kick
out of it and then the co -ed's bringing these
guys into the into the house and I'm losing my
mind it's like why does everybody not like help
me right like I'm losing my stuff here and so
one day the college co -ed's fiance comes to
town or he proposes to her and he's gonna take
her away and marry her and they're gonna have
this picturesque life with a white picket face
because right the guy made it now she doesn't
gotta go to school and sets me off my character
on a bender and i don't come back for like two
days and i don't come back i'm still wearing
the same clothes from two days ago and my breakfast
is on the table and i might as well have a wife
be around because that lady would open her mouth
and i you know it would just set him off right
right and so she comes and she gets in the stage
and she goes why'd you do it And I slammed the
plates and flipped the table over. And they're
still mad at me about that. They're like, I just
really got into character. Yeah, it was our last
performance. Chicken went flying everywhere and
stuff. And the crew and the cast would feed off
that energy. And they're like, next time, do
this. And I'm like, don't tell me you worry about
your old cast. Right, let me do it. I got something
in the back of my mind. What would the table
flip? Well, I wouldn't like. I wouldn't let them
in, you know? So they pulled a prank on me. There's
a scene where I flip over the table, I throw
the food and I go to the cabinet and I pull out
a hatchet and I run around trying to kill her.
It's very dark. Right, right, right. And they
hid the hatchet and put a big old 357 Magna plastic
like that. I'm like, that's why it's not there.
I look and it's not there. And I had to improvise.
I'm going to get you. You heifer. Because that
was part of it. I looked back and I saw it. And
I had to reach in again. I got a charlie horse
in my thing. And I was like, oh, man. It was
real. The pain was real. Because I pulled my
shoulder trying to get that thing out. I run
around. And she subdues me because I'm still
drunk. Right. Because my A &A sponsor had to
take me away. And then they bring me back. And
the cycle starts all over again. Right. But I'm
telling these guys because. Just cuz some of
you guys need to understand storytelling, you
know, if I had a gun I wouldn't need to chase
it exactly Sitting down. Oh, yeah, you know me
good show. They go take me back to my sixth grade
year theater arts they were having a talent show
and the art teacher who said Told me and a buddy
of mine. I want you guys to host a show. They
go. Yeah, sure You know, we've got a little bit
of comedy. Whatever. We're kids. We don't know
what comedy is man. But anyways In the middle
of the program the actual uh, the teacher goes
my dear teacher. I want you to sing you don't
want you to go up and sing in front of you know
the people that are going to be there okay well
the auditorium big auditorium a lot of people
came thinking a lot of people everybody it filled
up there's people standing in the back they always
come to the town i know they always go to the
town show award ceremonies nobody comes the town
shows yes so um so i'm i'm standing there And
they announced me, they go, now up, Mr. Mark
Velasquez is gonna sing Richie Valance, Oh Donna.
So I'm like up there in front of the mic from
way to sing. And I see my parents, bro. I see
my parents in the back row. This is what they
do. They sink down to the bottom of their seats.
I'm all like, are you for real? Oh, we're going
there. So I do my singing performance. I get
a standing O. and then you see them really really
yeah exactly dude so like you know what never
again they're about to walk out and then they
heard you they're remaking a bomba you know that
i heard about that it's a couple of uh producers
from the valley they just did a rosario just
came on last Okay, okay, yeah Similar to what
I want to do, you know, but what I want to do
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you so much. But coming back to Mr. Gonzalez
Del Toro here. We were talking about we said
we started from scratch enough in the very beginning
you want to do all that great stuff But you say
it's harder down here in the valley. There's
a thing we called you. What was that word to
use? That's that movie on There's a lot of stories
that get watched. White watch. Our history isn't
told. I don't know if you've heard the trend
on Instagram or what's coming up is that the
African American community is questioning where
were the Mexican Americans during the civil rights
movement. They're saying that we sat it out.
We didn't sit it out. areas where nobody cared.
We had civil rights leaders, you know, we had
walkouts or segregated schools. My mom was in
New Jersey when they had the segregation. It's
very small instances where the national spotlight
hit down here. You know, you have the unions
and that goes back to what the stuff that Joshua
was talking about last week about And he's going
on and talking about on his Facebook about the
contamination everywhere. Well, why do you think
there's so much contamination? It's because we're
surrounded by agriculture. And my dad tells me
all the time, it's like, you shouldn't be fishing
in those ditches because that's a runoff. And
what goes in that, it's all pesticides and chemicals,
you know? And I was thinking about what to say
about that because I was listening to last week's
episode. and all this stuff that's in the fish
and all these things in this environment and
on cue a crop duster you could hear it I live
in Montana bro keep going yeah go I hear you
and they fly over the town to circle around and
if the right and if the wind hits you just right
you'll get that into your house exactly you know
and then people wonder why we get cancer at a
higher rate yeah you know exactly there should
be a moratorium or a Certain no -fly zone around
community, right? You know, if you can do it
out there, that's fine You know, there's all
that space but there's some of these subdivisions
that have a Field right next to it and there's
no rules against spraying that field, right?
I mean they'll even like duck under the telephone
poles Yes, I've seen that you know, I've seen
that there's a story there was an article yesterday
a national article about arsenic in our rice
The really the best thing about this age is information
and that's also the worst thing because we just
dismiss it we go right through it where is the
the disgust and the anger that there's Arsenic
in our rice on shelves and who do we hold accountable?
You know, we would just let that pass right,
you know our waters bad Our meals are bad, too.
This country used to plant a lot of vegetables
and fruit. But unfortunately, you have to pump
them full of pesticides just to get something
out of it. I did a lot of agriculture when I
was a kid. My uncle, when he passed away, he
had... cancer in his back and all that stuff.
And we did a lot. We worked out a lot of pesticides.
You know, so it's in the back of my mind. I had
a colonoscopy last two weeks ago. They found
pre -cancerous polyps in my intestines. Wow.
You know, if nobody's looking, you're not going
to find anything. I went through that because
I had a lot of gastric problems. And so they
also found some stuff in my throat. and i'm like
man i would be looking at my bag or maybe looking
at my cells there's other stuff we're gonna find
out right right right right what's out there
right what was your last meal what did you have
what was the last thing that you had a corn dog
bro that's what i had it's so convenient yeah
it's so convenient before i became a filmmaker
i was in the night field and i was I was constantly
on the road from one clinic to the other. And
I got to 335 pounds. I was eating corn dogs and
burritos, whatever I could get. Pop in two burritos
and corn dogs. And then when I started bodybuilding
and training, I would go to the store and look
around for something that was healthy. It would
be a bag of almonds or whatever and a bottle
of water. You go to buy a salad. You're paying
three times more than a burger. This is what
I understand. It's true what you're saying about
all these fast food restaurants. You start with
a fast food restaurant, you go out there, all
right, you get a whole meal combo for under 10
bucks, nine bucks maybe, whatever. If you're
getting a whole combo meal with something, it's
a greasy food. They brought back all you can
eat apple juice for $15 .99 with chilies or whatever
it is. We're going after the podcast. Look it
up, look it up. It's like... Two or three items,
but it's all you can eat for $15 .99. Really?
But you're trying to tell me they can't serve
you a salad? One salad to make it, you know?
So I went from 330 pounds to a bodybuilder, and
I went down to 4 % body fat. Wow. I had a car
accident, I was hit by a drum driver, and then
I gained all the weight back. And then that's
when the problems started. Seven herniated discs,
high blood pressure, you know, even, even. anxiety
and depression. We don't talk about that in our
community. I think in the Hispanic community,
I think we should be talking about top therapy.
My daughter went to school for psychology and
I reach that and I talk to somebody. Talk to
a counselor. Don't just mask it, don't play with
your health. Right. It's something that we could
all do. Yeah, and like I was saying, like you
go to these restaurants, fast food restaurants,
you get these combos, whatever, like we just
said, you know what? I'm done with this. I'm
going to go, I'm going to try to eat healthy.
I'm going to go out and get myself all the healthy
food that I need to get at home. You end up wasting
close to one hundred and something dollars just
to get something healthy. You get alone. You
go to a restaurant. You try to eat healthier
there too. It's like the healthy food is more
expensive than the damn junk food. You'll be
at the grocery store three times a week because
you'll run out of something if you're trying
to cook at home. I did four bodybuilding shows.
One in one. But I had to do six meals a day for
16 weeks straight. I had to cook them myself.
I had to eat it, prepare it. and I would run
out of chicken or fish or whatever and it would
go back to the, you know, to the grocery store.
And it was so expensive. I could have spent a
fraction of that on burritos and whatever and
I had a, I was 4 % body fat with abs and everything
else ripped. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen the pictures.
You go to his Facebook page, you see the fat.
They're like, they're like, they're like the,
that is probably Super Bowl. They're only on
VHS. I'm a huge Cowboys fan, and that's the joke
that everybody tells me. Uh -oh. Uh -oh. No!
49ers. You're cooked. When was the last time
you all made it? Let's just drop the subject
right here. Hold on. Hold on. You guys won the
Super Bowl the year before we did, so you're
a Super Bowl older than us. There you go. But
the thing is, you're going to find out what salary
cap hell is. You just paid... You're gonna feel
what the cowboys are feeling right now with that
first Right Okay tell my story or something.
It was put on by a theater group and every week
we'd meet and we'd write our own short film.
You could do whatever you wanted. You could do
a claymation, stop motion animation, you could
do drawing, whatever, but you had to tell a story
with words and another medium. And so I said,
I wanna make a film. So I went in there, there
was a mixer, and I was telling everybody about
a crime drama, The Next Godfather, and all that.
But then I told him a real story, a true story.
I have a collection of odd jobs that will curl
your skin. I was a grave digger. A grave digger
for a funeral home. We dug a grave in Blue Town
one night on Halloween Eve. And we started finding
bones in the dirt. So obviously... The cemetery
got overrun with weeds, and so the farmer just
plowed it. And all those old graves from the
olden times, they just resold them. But they
didn't know. Because it's a small town. The paperwork
wasn't as thorough. They didn't have computers.
So some of my buddies said, this is a hand bone,
man. This is a carpal. Here's a medical. And
let's go back. Let's come back tomorrow morning.
And so we have to come back in the morning. The
funeral is almost on its way. And we finished
the grave right before that. And so one day,
one day we get a call and they used to live with
my neighbors and work for them. When I had my
bad boy, uh, um, era. I got kicked out of the
house and I went out on my own. I ended up two.
House is down Funeral Oh that you could possibly
imagine. He had a reputation for being a caring
individual. So, anybody ends up in the river
or somewhere they find a body they can't identify,
it's called the jungle. You all know that. But
the county only pays a certain amount of money
to process that money or to put it in the grave
and mark that grave. So any funeral owner will
lose money on the jungle. because there's paperwork
and there's you have to get a plot and all this
stuff and so they knew that Mr. Calasos would
take it because he couldn't just couldn't bear
the thought of somebody not knowing where the
family member was he would always help so this
funeral home asked Mr. Calasos if we would take
care of this process and we went to pick up Me
and my friend, Willie, and Hyman, we were in
my house and we picked up his body. It was a
floater from the room, Randy. No documentation.
He was, like, banging in the curtain. He had,
like, scars all over and stuff. And he had this
body, like, really bad, inhumane. And my buddy,
Willie, he was, you know, oh, this is not how
you work. You know, you're thinking of this person.
as uh line item on your budget right do the work
do it the right way and the benefits will come
so we go and and he makes them give us a casket
for you yeah they give us a casket like a traveling
casket you're the ones that we put on the plane
and we bring them home and So I wrote a narrative
of what would compel a human to risk his life
for a better life. Nobody will ever know what
happened. Exactly. They're doing research. It's
not just here. It's every border town. Right.
From Pijuana to Monterey. You know, there's instances.
There's some instances like in Arizona where
they have hundreds of graves that nobody knows
who they are. Yeah. And they have like lockers
with their belongings and people will go there
and look through the stuff to see if they can
identify this person. There's always something
it was no closure at the beginning was called
closure because i needed closure at the end of
the character and so in the story there's a girl
she's also looking for a boyfriend and he has
one little uh bracelet that he never took off
and so this my character calls the the diplomat
Mexican consulate. Right. Right. Tells them,
you know, goes out of the port and found the
jungle is where you wait in, you know, ballpark
and you have this red, red, red bracelet. And
so she's looking for that. And some worker at
the consulate puts two and two together and puts
my character and the wife together. And I show
her where he's buried so that she can know where
he was. Closer. And so I told that story at that
mixer at the school. and i had 30 people listening
to that because it was well right now you got
me intrigued i really want to see the story and
so and so like i was like man i want to make
my crime drama it's so bad and nobody wants to
hear it but like the story is great and that's
what acting is when it looks real that's when
it's like legit right you know it's believable
you know and so i want to have a mix of truth
and fiction the bad guys in this movie the strong
side that is dark past yeah they they they were
bootleggers back in the day there's an era in
the valley called the hour of blood i don't know
if you've heard it no it's the first time from
1910 to 1920 the texas rangers mandate and this
is not me making it up in austin at the museum
there's articles about it there's all this stuff
about it they were sent down here to to take
land from from mexican farmers yeah yeah you
know uh they violated the treaty that they signed
when They gave up the Alamo, the San Antonio,
the Mexican Revolution on us. They signed the
treaty saying, we give up, we're going back to
Mexico, you won Texas, but what we want, Mexico
said this in the treaty, we don't want anybody
who stays in Texas to be treated badly because
of their Mexican disdain. the san juan hotel
house plexus rangers yes there's a big controversy
about it because they want to preserve it they
want to put some money into it but that's where
the head of the plexus rangers live yeah and
they hung people in the corner yes they did yes
there's a book uh mr howell from mercedes i don't
remember his first name you wrote a book called
your land of your life and on the cover there's
three cabecinos farmers in that couch getting
hung by the plexus rangers In my movie, this
family, they betray all of their community, all
their neighbors, basically help these people
take lands from them. And in the story, that's
why they're cursed. That's why they'll never
succeed. They're tainted. It's like stepping
on an Indian burial ground. You're never gonna,
it's gonna stay with you. And so that's what
I wanted to do. Put a little truth into my movies.
but still be an escape you know this is a story
about a hero all that stuff is all his trials
and tribulations that he's got to get through
to get to the other side to win you know the
story's snake but some of the you know some of
the circumstances are real um that's crazy man
i mean i i i do know what you're talking about
as far as that itself about the whole ranger
thing Coming to a special... Is that the first
time I talk about this on the air? Or in public?
I wrote a feature film called Los Tequileros.
You're a value prohibition story. And it won
a picture festival. A competition, a script competition.
And it's just a period piece. It's gonna be high
budget. Just to have... the wardrobe the cars
it's like um the intouchables meets um right
right right right right but this hit this city
has a history uh i was on a roll and i forgot
the name of the town I would have there would
have been a mic drop moment and they say that
that's where Al Capone's people would go across
and make their deals for group legs and my great
-grandmother she said that my great -grandfather
my grandma said my great -grandfather used to
ride with my children and that they would group
leg back in the day here in Westico before Westico
was incorporated she would walk from farm to
farm with buckets Got the FBI watching now, buddy
Pancho Villa, Al Capone, the Texas Rangers. In
a story that could be compelling, to tell a different
version of what you've heard. Art history books
don't talk about a lot of that. They tell us
what they want to tell us. And now with the death
of DPI, we might not tell it. Yeah, I hear you
man. There's so much stuff going on. in the world
bro and especially in our own backyard it's it's
it's hard to even uh not live with the fact that
it's happening itself you know what i mean if
that makes any sense yeah and the thing is that
in the school system growing up you don't know
they used to tell us not to speak Spanish because
and our parents would not be involved in our
schools because they were out there working my
mom worked full time and went to night school.
My dad worked in the field, he was field mechanic
for agriculture, and he worked 50 hours a week.
We were all four boys living at home. We saw
our parents for an hour right before we went
to bed. So the TV and the school system raised
us. And the school system will tell us not to
speak Spanish if we didn't have to, because they
could put you in a different class called ESL.
English as your second language, and you would
be left behind. Your curriculum was just English
stuff, and you would get left behind. So the
teachers encourage us not to talk Spanish. Don't
use slang, because you're gonna stick with now,
it's like we're no sound kids. And I don't know
if you know who Maritza and La Cencia is. They
were here about a year ago. They got, what's
that word you guys use, shut down, not shut down,
but they boycotted, what's that popular word?
I don't know. Ella? It's a word that means cancel.
Yeah, yeah But it's a system that tells us and
she was funky but these kids were left out there
with no manager no parent at all they're all
minors and they just ate them up yeah i think
it's harder even like not social media such a
big thing they tried to cancel uh because one
of the grandparents was you know posting election
results and i don't I think everybody has their
opinion. Why are you trying to cancel a group
or a person, an artist, but you have family members
that are on both sides of the political spectrum.
You can cancel your cousin. I'm on a group chat
with a 30 year old. It's a group chat, a high
school reunion, a 30 year group. Okay, we met
for the 30th and we created this group half for
Republicans and half for Democrats. Right. I
don't shut them out. I try to educate and try
to communicate. Right. But that's what we don't
do anymore. No. It's like this side versus that
side. It's like you're 49 and I'm a cowboy and
you don't want to hear my side. I don't want
to hear your side. Yeah. But that's dangerous
because this is politics. Yeah. This is our livelihood.
This is our future. This is everything that we
as American citizens came to. And that's the
same thing I was telling Josh in the last episode
it's weird man because through the years growing
up when I never saw the news I never was into
the political thing and and then when you get
into your mid 40s early 40s you're like What's
going on? What's going on? You know, I never
used to watch this stuff And now I'm like knee
deep in it. I'm like why? I was always fascinated
with that. Do you remember Oliver North? Yeah.
Do you remember what that was about? The whole
thing though. It was about gold and guns. Okay.
They got caught. The American government, the
army branch, and the CIA got caught bringing
guns. setting guns for drugs in the Iran -Contra
affair. Iran and the Contras have nothing to
do with themselves. Iran's in the Middle East,
the Contras in South America. But this is an
initiative, and that's why a lot of popular urban
artists call them that. They say that the streets
are flooded with cocaine in the Middle East because
they needed to get rid of it. Right. You know?
Oliver North took the stand and he said he didn't
know anything, but Pablo Escobar was involved.
If you watch the shows now, even the cartoon
Archer, you have episodes, entire episodes of
how the government got caught with guns and drugs.
So how are you going to tell me not to do, you
asked me to ask for what's the pledge of allegiance
say? Freedom and liberty? But then when I want
it, As an adult, you say I can't have it, you
like lie to me. Right, yeah, I hear you. You
can't ask for free healthcare to get, you know,
a president can accept private money. You know,
if you're gonna cut, you have to give it up.
Well, we're an hour and five minutes in. We're
already towards the end of the podcast. Let's
talk politics, but let's talk something that's
in our wheelhouse. There's a legislation, it
passed the House, 22 that brings incentives to
film. So every Bosnian film community that has
this incentive is ruling. Louisiana, Georgia,
all these states that give filmmakers back a
piece of what they spent and they're actually
halfway there to passing into Texas. So if we
were to do that, Okay, I think so, yeah and they
repaid it and they're talking about how texas
gonna be the next holiday yeah they mentioned
mccallan in the video you know you watch a movie
and they talk about mccallan and some line producer
and they say why are we gonna fly 30 people to
mccallan if all we can do all we gotta do is
slap a name on the bus you know you did that
in sicario yeah totally there in mccallan right
but you can see the border wall yeah that's like
wait a minute There was a movie for Brownsville
or somewhere else and there's mountains in the
golf course. That's a line item and a decision
like that can save you tens of thousands of dollars.
Every day that you hire an actor with XYZ amount
of money and every day he has to spend to get
there is one day and every day he has to spend
to get back is one day. So you hire a guy at
$5 ,000 a day and he's working two days. That's
20 grand. Because he's got to fly here, and that's
one day. And if you don't pay him, you can tell
the union. And the union issues. So we have to
make it more effective to make film in the United
States than about Texas. So that line to me is
to say, well, we can really tell an awesome story.
And it's cost effective to bring a crew of 20
to Hive. And we can outsource to regular people
down there like Citrus Vigil. Shout out to Stitches
Digital and Isaac. We're creating a motion picture
subcommittee. We're trying to look for a group
who's developing this group to lure investors,
to get people more involved in filmmaking, to
scale up business. There's a lot of investors
here. New car washes pop up every day. There's
restaurants. Restaurants have some of the worst
profitability margins out there that these particular
restaurants have. And in three months, four months,
you see that restaurant, you know it's gone.
They could invest in a movie. That's true. And
invest in that movie, invest in your community,
and then see residuals for the life of that movie
and put it to work. We're not here to make a
movie to sell it to somebody. We're here to make
a movie to own the rights to it. I got you. I
got you. Not so much. I can see that. Cause like
you're fake and blah blah. So Rick Ross came
back and said, who wants your masters? I'll buy
your masters. You know? That's how you become
awesome. By owning it. Imagine if your YouTube,
when your YouTube show gets really popular, and
somebody owned 90 % of it. So we're trying to
put ourselves in the first. I'm gonna own. I
wrote contracts. I have two movies that are already
in production. I wrote contracts and I hired
these people and they signed that 80 % of the
merchandising for the horror movie is mine. Before
we even shoot it, you know, any investor knows
if there's a dog, a toy, whatever. Because the
horror movie, the one that's after this movie,
is huge. It's got 20 Hollywood actors in it.
I can say this because I have a letter of intent.
A letter of intent is basically a marketing tool.
I can go out and try to find money and say who
is in the show, right? And who's gonna be in
the movie. So my monster for the horror movie
has been in Smile. He's been in Guillermo Del
Toro's Cabinet of Mysteries or Curiosities. I
always get that one. He signed to a huge movie.
I can't say the name of the movie because it's
not happening. Okay, but I can basically show
an investor that letter have 20 letters like
that I'll pay myself a little bit to make I'm
after the horror niche the horror genre. I mean
the writer Orlando he had the idea to put the
movie inside a lunchbox for all the 80s geeks
you know a lunchbox you sold me you freaking
sold me of the movie you open it and the DVD
is inside that's badass you know yeah so so that's
what that's what we've been trying to do is keep
that royalty right you know there's movies made
in the valley all the time but you don't know
them because they come in and do them here you
know like um that netflix christmas movie we
won't say which one yeah because i don't remember
yeah i know what you're talking about the one
with louis fonci uh they're trying to sell it
in can that was at your brother's you know um
those are steps to get into where we want to
be you know so that's what i'm telling you the
industry right like we want to give you We come
across that I mean shoot us that area for they're
doing the position for that Okay, I Know I was
I was telling chew I go hey man Abel said that
he might have a part for us and Supposedly you
just gotta all you just show up with your leg.
You'll be all right You have to be actually be
on the film. It's just gonna be me. I'm the one
that has the line You just bring the leg and
pretend you're there. So not a big deal. So in
the strong side, we're going full board with
it. There's going to be TV coverage of this huge
athlete signing. Like we're going to have cameras
at the signing day. It's going to be a big deal.
And it will be the sports top version of ESPN.
and you're all excited and talking about and
it's a way to move the story forward because
what's the big deal he's just a guy no but this
never happens you never get a five -star blue
chip in a small town like this exactly you know
and there's two more of them because this is
you know these are reinforcements and maybe we're
turning the corner and it's kind of like our
imitating life because that's where we are at
in the the ETRGV Vaqueros yep finally had their
they hosted the tournament they got bounced out
of the tournament but when was the last time
that they hosted a tournament in edinburgh for
a national conference yeah yeah they can still
get into the college world series i think if
the committee says they won 23 games they might
get an invite right right right i'm not 100 sure
that's how it works yeah but i love to watch
you know the underdogs pretty much the underdog
story because and it's so cool that like they're
like when they break the huddle and they do the
thing like yeah they see valley boys it's so
weird you're not even from here Why do I get
political? The colored eyes and the nose. I don't
have the traditional Mexican -American features.
There's some Mexican -Americans that can't grow
a full beard. They'll look very indigenous and
stuff. And it's like, you're just all over the
place. You've got the dark skin, the colored
eyes, and you don't speak Spanish. I go, I speak
Spanish. I'm speaking English to you. I don't
think I have an accent. I have an accent in Spanish.
You know? I'm virtual. That's what the word is,
right? Yes, it is. I go to Mexico to where my
family is from I don't fit in. They shoved a
bunch of cameras in their face and they're like
the chicken nugget kid look it up That's what
they call them. They make memes and they put
AI over their voices. They're super talented.
They have a song with Rupa from Daan. It's really
good. I love it, you know. I would go to my house.
My dad used to have a house in Guadalajara. And
we go there and I hated the food over there,
man. I hated tortas ahogadas and where's the
breakfast, man? Like, where's the bacon and eggs?
I love the cute tacos. They don't have Americano
cheese in their body. They have cute tacos. They
don't eat flour tortillas in Mexico. No, they
don't. They don't eat breakfast. They eat like
coffee and a pan dulce and then they have a lunch
and a merienda and then dinner's like at seven
o 'clock on the street. They go to eat tacos
in the street. I'm like, that's, that's too late.
I'm gonna leave. I need like, my aunt would make
me, she would go to the store. You're right.
And buy eggs. And she, cause she would come and
go. Right. She lived here half alive and half
there. Right. Right now she's in Chicago. Okay.
So she gets it. Right. She would like placate
to us. And then we started learning like, oh
shit, this is like, you know, different. Now
I love chilaquiles. Now I love... all the good
stuff, you know? But I grew up on like potato
and egg. There you go. And we never had weenie
in the egg because we're so poor. Like weenies
were for hot dogs. Right. You don't cut up a
weenie to make it into the egg. You know, use
potato for that. You're right. Use for that.
The hot dog, we're going to grill it for you
with fajitas like a yenesgabón. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't put that in the egg, but a lot of people
do. That's cool. now that i go because we go
every year we go every year and we're still the
fortunes but now we have an appreciation right
um my cousin got married as a child you know
okay with the whole get up and his wife they
met in folkloreco dance and they're part of the
guinness book of world records biggest folkloreco
ensemble ever put together like thousand people
So they got married in Guadalajara, right in
the middle of Guadalajara. And then they went
to the, I guess the conference center where they
have the actual violet and they performed for
us. She got dressed into a forgorico outfit and
she did like eight numbers with the mariachis.
Doing traditional Mexican, the hat dance and
all that stuff. And I filmed it all, I have it,
I'll put it up on YouTube someday. But it's like,
yeah, this is like And then when he was old enough,
he went to Wisconsin to work in the smoke. We
didn't know this until last week. We're learning
stuff about my dad, because I'm telling you,
now he has time to chill out. He's retired. He
had an accident with a raw iron. It hit on his
head. He woke up in the hospital and stuff, and
we didn't even know until last week. We were
looking at my brother, like, where did this come
from? We ran into a couple of cold wounds. I'm
writing a story about my dad and his brothers,
there's three of them, in the hills of Jalisco,
saying, hey man, we're American citizens. Let's
just go get jobs, when I was planning a wedding,
you know, whatever. So I'm writing a story of
when I play about how they decided to come here
and change my life. I went back to that little
ranchito three years ago. In the middle of tequila
country, it's beautiful land. It's... Nice and
fresh the dirt You know, I'm doing something
with that. Because what else would I do, you
know? I love to cook. And so in that story, it
goes from what really happened, my dad leaving
Jalisco to pursue a better life. And what happens
when he decides not to? And he's working in Mexico,
and I grow up in Mexico, and you know, all the
things that I could choose to be or not. Bringing
us back to the morality type. You're going I'm
already about an hour 21 Now but uh as far as
anything else man first first one I don't have
to wrap this up already. It's already coming
over the past an hour, but uh as far as the movie's
concerned, uh, the we're calling what is called
the strong side strong side when is when is uh,
can you give us a little bit of an update when
this is coming out and uh and all that your social
media that they can look for. Axiom Films on
Facebook, Axiom, it's a new page. It's a little
hard to find right now because I just put it
up about two weeks ago. We're gonna start, we're
gonna shoot in late September. Okay. The process
to get authorized takes two months. Then you
have to have a percentage of the money in an
escrow to get it authorized. So May, June, July
is fundraising time. August and late September.
August is like pre -production and then late
September we're gonna shoot. That's what the
goal is. And they can find this on your Facebook
page if they want to follow? Axiom films will
have all the details. How they can get involved,
how they can get the sides. That's a professional
term. When they say, did you get the sides? It's
your pages. Just what you're gonna read for your
audition. You're talking too gordito, I'm thinking
food. I'm educating you. You're talking too gordito.
I said, did you get your sides? I'm like, I'm
more of an entree guy. And I know, ooh, the script,
the pieces of script, they're called sides. Oh,
okay, my bad. No, but if we're going to lunch,
right? I wanna match potatoes with that. Guys,
if you see the art of the film right now, I got
a... Mr. Gonzales del Toro's coup card right
there. Click on that QR code. That'll take you
straight to him. All the good stuff that he's
coming across and what you do in the future,
man. One audition, that's where you're going
to find the information. There you go, guys.
Audition, how you can get... I don't know. You
ever wanted to be in a movie and you want to
learn how to do the behind the scenes stuff?
That's where you're going to learn. First things
first, I want to say thank you, man, for coming
out, having some fun with me. It's like every
time I have them on the pod, the times that I've
had them, the first time, the second time, the
third time, it's like storytelling. You know,
I feel like a kindergartener seen on the rug.
I was getting lost in the storytelling about
it. I was like... If I could just translate it
to film, I think I could, you know, make a movie
out of it. But that's been a challenge. I had
to learn cameras, microphones. Editing, honestly,
I don't wanna do that, man. I just wanna write
a story. But I do, I have to end up editing,
color grading. I've been director of photography
for other movies that were in your mind. I've
been second camera man for documentaries and
doing all this stuff. But all I wanna do is tell
my story. Like I said before, I wanna say thank
you for coming out, man. I appreciate you coming
out. Maybe when this movie is already out, I'd
love to have you come back and talk about it,
and hopefully things work out. It'll come out
on your movie as the ESPN announcer. You know,
I could grow my hair with a throw or something,
so I could look really freaky on the film. There's
an ESPN announcer just got signed yesterday from
Edinburgh. Really? Yeah, she's doing all of the
online betting stuff. she's very very very skilled
and she's a bookie she probably did the she's
not going to that is that going that good i am
being uh monetized right now no she's she's it's
legal betting is legal you know and she does
all that like all the staff stuff i want to look
her up man i find out all the know what numbers
to use and what numbers not to use for that coming
up football season don't be afraid man because
they do it it's called the line and then maybe
she can come on and she'll have a cowboy hat
on oh there you go i'll make sure she comes on
and she'll have a niner hat on all right that'll
be interesting no thank you again i appreciate
you so much man for just ladies gentlemen that
is the podcast tonight an hour and 25 minutes
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on your way back to texas tech i hope when you
come back again we have another great guest so
you can enjoy yourself again because i know she
is going forward to become in germinalism journalism
Bad, bad person to teach. Anyways, journalism,
and I hope everything goes well for you when
you go back to tech. And say hi to all your friends
from us down here in the Valley, especially Miss
Katie. Hi, Katie! She loves the food down here.
But we will be back again with you guys next
week. Tuesday at 7 .30 p .m. with Stephanie Madolby,
Miss Kid Goku herself. I got a lot of questions,
because now she's on the new episodes. So that
should be a lot of fun to watch. If you catch
the live, you'll watch it live free. If not,
then you gotta be a member to watch it when it's
already recorded, guys. Other than that, man,
any last words? Bye. Bye. We'll see you next
week, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, peace out.