What's going on guys? Welcome back to the tuna
podcast. You're probably wondering why is he
not in the studio? Unfortunately this episode
when it first got started It was basically my
fault. I forgot to turn on the mixer So but the
first couple of minutes that you're about to
watch with the with two excellent gentlemen Jason
Moreno and Roy Torres from bucking crazy We start
off with Jason talking about where he grew up
and how I became a musician I My apologies Jason,
unfortunately the mic were mics were off that's
my fault but that's where the episodes gonna
start off guys and I promise you we'll get them
back again, but As where it starts off. It's
nothing but gold and it's a great interview and
big shout out some big hugs to these guys because
man They're just excellent people man Enjoy and
We'll see you next time ladies guys But either
way, you know, we play we used to jam a little
bit, you know in the backyard and campfires and
stuff like that I got away from it went to college
and built a family and just about 12 years ago
Roy was rebuilding the band and he approached
me to come in come back and that's how I got
Reconnected with bucking crazy about 12 years
ago. There you go. There you go Yeah, so ever
since then has been a whirlwind. We've been up
and down Nashville and back all around, and it's
been a great ride, man. That's awesome, man.
And I apologize right now, I know the audio,
you can only hear the audio through the actual
computer. The fixed app, ASAP, we got it up and
running now, so I'm pretty sure you guys can
hear now. I'm sorry about that, Jason. Oh, do
I have to repeat it? Repeat it again, Jason.
No, I mean, Rob Endano, got into the music thing,
bro, and that's awesome, bro. He's 92, he said,
right? Class of 92, Donna Redskins, yeah. God
damn. Roy, what? Was he short hair at the time?
Yeah, he was. There's always that nerdy guy that's
willing to take off his glasses and his tie and
jump in the river naked. That's him. Best way
to describe him. Did we just become best friends?
You want to do karate? Yes! Eagle fan, baby!
Anyways, let's get to Roy here. We got some Mr.
Roy Thomas here. Grew up with this guy, actually
from elementary all the way through high school.
Graduated. Tell us a little bit about yourself,
Roy. I'm from Donna. I'm on Redskin for life.
I've been in the music business for the last
35 years. I started out with... Pops, my dad,
a great musician, Santiago Torres, known as Tiny,
6 '4", they call him Tiny. I remember him telling
me one day what I had to do to become successful
in music. And we had a drink one night and he
said, you know what, do you ever want to pursue
the musical? scene then the only way to do it
is become a Singer I don't think I play guitar
I remember one night singing Neon Moon. That
was our first country song. There you go. And
it just took one compliment from somebody. You
should be a singer. Okay. Ever since then, you
know, my head was like, yes. That was the first
song we played together. Yes. Yes, in high school.
We were at EMS for Donna. Really? Yeah, we did
EMS. We were volunteer for about... I think I
was only there for about six months. I was getting
in, Jason was coming in. I remember the initiation
where we strapped you in a gurney. We took you
to Stars. What the hell? We took you to Stars.
You rolled me up to Stars in a gurney and pressed
the button for me to order food. Oh my God, dude.
Mine is strapped down. Before that. Before that.
We took him through the aisles in H -E -B and
he was just strapped up in a gurney like this.
And I've known Jason since the school days and
he was just too good to talk to me back in the
day. We were both jocks. It was a high and bye
for the first couple of years, then we got to
know each other. The first song we ever took
out was Neon Moon. I think we performed at Amigos
de Valle. It was a party for EMS. As a matter
of fact, a Christmas party. So after that, I
mean, man, we just went our separate ways. There's
a song right there, by the way. And we hadn't
seen each other since then until... I think we
were going to perform with, what's his name?
Ronnie Atkins. Really? Yes, we played with Ronnie
Atkins. A week before that, my band quit on me.
It can be an ugly business. I called my buddy
Robert, who's our drummer from Dono. He got a
hold of three musicians. We ended up doing the
concert, and then I feel a push, a shove in the
back, and I turn around, and this guy's like,
it leaves 14 beers down. What's up? I'm like,
OK, bro. Well, it's good to see you. I was actually
working the concert. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember
that? Who's this guy? I was sitting with the
KTX VIP crew, because we had done a shit ton
of advertising. And I was in the marketing world,
and I wore a suit and tie and everything for
20 years, man. And I ran into that guy at the
concert, man. He's like, hey, we need to talk.
And he's behind a curtain like that. He's like,
hey, Jason, hey. And his response was, no, no,
no. And he walked away, and there he is out of
my life again. I'm like, god damn it. No, I got
to meet up with him. So it was like, look. We're
doing this jam in Wesseco. It was a horseman
salute. A horseman. And I go, go by, man. He's
like, oh, mind you, 14 beers in. He's like, oh,
yeah, yeah. I didn't think he was going to go
by. I was going through a divorce right at that
time. I was drunk. Yeah, you was gone. I was
drinking my sorrows. I'm not making a look back.
I'm sorry. That was that night. I asked him about
maybe hopping on and managing the band. He says,
nah, screw that. So he ended up going to the
horseman's saloon, a shout out to Rick Dumbass.
There you go. He tricked me. He said, hey man,
bring your guitar and we'll do one song like
the old days. Bring your guitar. And I was like,
all right. You know what? That's a different
podcast, but go ahead. I got you that. So I got
on there and I got hooked, man. It was... Yeah,
I tricked him. I was like, look, why don't you
jam a song with us? It's like, all right, you
hooked up, play the song. He's like, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. At the end of the song, he's like,
let's do it, man. Got him, got him. And I'll
tell you what, ever since he joined us and it's
been going up ever since, man. He's a hard worker.
Stuff I won't even bother doing. I don't like
to socialize a lot. Honestly, I don't. People
see me on stage and like, oh, no, it's totally
the opposite. I like socializing. And Jason's
the guy who could do it, man. I mean, we ended
up in Nashville. We've put some new videos out.
Our first video was by Jason Moreno, Cookie Production.
And that video's got 1 .1 million views already.
So this shows a lot. And then not just that,
all these songs that were coming back. are all
written by Jason Moreno. There you go. It's an
honor to have him, and he's worked so hard, and
now he's doing the harmonica. Oh, shit, VJ? But
yeah, I'm from Donna, Texas, and we're some Donna
boys just trying to do our thing. And speaking
of Donna, Texas, I bumped into a buddy of ours.
I'm not sure if you remember Jerry Garcia. Jerry
Garcia. Oh, big Jerry Garcia. Shout out to Jerry.
I was talking to him there at my work. He came
in to buy some supplies and I was talking to
him and I told him, I got Roy coming out of the
podcast. And he goes, really? He goes, yeah,
that's going to be awesome, dude. And I go, I
was telling him, do you remember? 1991. No. May
27th, 26. I was a freshman in high school, becoming
a sophomore the following year. We're at a talent
show. We're sitting down in the bleachers. We're
seeing all these acts come out. And all of a
sudden, the lights dim out. And the lights turn
on. And you see Roy with a white t -shirt that
says, strip tease. What? those first five minutes
of my life changed. I want to be just like that.
I want to wear the crop top that says striptease.
Robert, the drummer, who's currently with us
right now, started that band. He's like, let's
name this band called Backseat Romeo. And I was
like, hell no. Mind you, I wasn't the singer
of the band. I sang a few songs, but I was a
keyboard player. A keyboard player, there you
go. He was doing Zack Morris. Striptease, wow,
you just took me back in time, man. Rob would.
Rob would. That sounds like Rob. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. You know, Rob was your rocker guy back
then. I was my new kid in the block. He's just
trying to learn... There's a block guy in the
block, man. Thank you, Jason, for coming by.
Look where this guy is, man. Rob had the flock
of seagulls haircut. There you go. The Doc Martens.
And the cargo shorts that went down halfway past
his calves. The only guy... to join ROTC just
to go to Disney World. Wow! Wow! And then he
got kicked out. He got kicked out of the bus.
I don't know what went on from there, but shout
-out to Robert, man. We love you, man. We love
you. I know you can't go that far back to think
about that, dude, but that experience, for the
first time with all your buddies up there, I'm
not sure if you had a gig before then or was
it just something you guys would do? Yeah, a
little party. So you guys, when you went up...
on there, did your performance, you should have
heard it. That auditorium went nuts. Nothing
but girls were going nuts. They were screaming
their heads off. That's what I'm saying. At that
moment, I was like, this is what I wanted. This
is what I wanted. What did you play? I'm actually
a good influence on something. What did you play?
I remember playing more than words. That was
with your dad a couple of years later. Oh my
God, you remember that? Yes. I do my research.
I do my research. Oh my gosh. Real quick, let
me go ahead and say this. Shout out to my dad.
I love you, dad. I thought this was a camera.
I was like, okay. Shout out to my dad. Yeah,
God bless him. The man who taught me everything
I do with music. So I go, dad, I just got kicked
out of strip tease. So I was going to get strip
tease. What am I going to do? I don't have a
band. Hey dad, you mind writing some songs with
me? Hell yeah, son. All right. So we learned
some songs. I didn't know much about guitar back
in the day. So I had nylon string. I didn't know
you really got to stretch those things because
they're not. So I learned how to put them on.
I didn't stretch them. So I was like, OK, let's
do it. We get to the show at the gym. We're performing.
We're in the center of the gym with a spotlight.
I started playing the song, and it's off key.
And I'm like, I look at my dad. I go, no, he
unplugged me. He took off. He left me alone.
In the middle of the gym. You gotta learn. You
gotta learn. It's tough love, so I was like,
oh, shit. Out of tune, singing it. More than
words. Song finishes, the crowd goes, yeah! I
don't need you, dad. I don't need you. Oh, my
gosh. I gotta say, this is one hell of a podcast.
I did my research on it, bro. I mean, these are
stuff. There's key moments in a young man's life
that you're like, I remember this. I remember
that. I wasn't the only one, because I told Jerry
about it, and Jerry's like, oh, shit, yeah, I
remember that. And we're cracking up. I go, bro.
And I go, I need a picture. I need a picture
or a video of this ASAP. And guess what, buddy?
No. Now I'm just fucking around. I've got a couple
of people already tuning in, man. Me and Roy
used to jam out in my house. He played keyboard,
and I played guitar. I'm showing you. Armando
Reyes. Armando. Glad you're doing better, bro.
Been keeping up with you, man. God, man. I remember
he used to get on the drums and always fight
with Rob. Okay, who are we going to keep, Mando
or Rob? Shout out to Mando. Big shout out to
Madito, man. Hope you're doing a lot better.
He will be here next week's interview on Monday
with Mooncat. So he will be my co -host next
week here. So we can do that interview with Mooncat
next week on Monday. Oh, here we got another
one. Another one here. It says, howdy, fellas.
I'm not sure if you can see that right there
on your screen. Can you see that? Yeah, yeah.
Oh, Remy. Oh, Remy. So Remy, I said Remy. Remy's
my future stepson, by the way. Remy, Remy Rowland
is a grandson for Country Rowland. Oh, shoot!
He's doing that? That's the only guy that's gonna
get up here. Man, Country Rowland's got some...
I'll go with Remy. He's got new music on. I mean,
you guys being growing up and growing up, grew
up and down and everything. Another person that
really was an inspiration for me to actually
pick up a guitar was Mr. Felix. Am I sure, Mr.
Juan Felix? Juan Felix. Juan Felix, big gentleman.
He played guitar. He played in church. He's no
longer with us. God bless him. But one great
guitar player, man. Every time I would see him,
and it was funny, great advice that he gave me
that I took with me, because I was always trying
to, as a guitar player, we want to try to get
as best as we can to what the song sounds like.
We want to get every note to the key. And one
thing that he actually told me, he goes, look,
man. You got to find yourself. You got to be
yourself. That person found his inspiration.
Play the same song, but do it your style. Exactly.
Original. And that was something I took with
me. You know further on when I started doing
my jamming thing, but that's a whole different
other podcast So tell me a little bit about you
guys mess this whole bucking crazy how many years
I mean what's going on what I mean so much you
guys have done I'm pretty sure you got like stories
and the backpack in the rear end When I took
when I took over the band the There was so much
baggage, man. It was hard to recover from a lot
of stuff, back taxes. Almost impossible. We had
back taxes, and then we had two albums that were
recorded that we had no ownership of the rights
to. We couldn't do anything with those songs.
And the owner of the songs wouldn't budge, wouldn't
talk to us, wouldn't do anything with us, wouldn't
negotiate. So for many, many years, we piggybacked
off of those... those songs and whatever we got
out of it but we had no monetization out of it
and right we couldn't do much with those songs
we could the only option for us was to re -record
it and you know we were we were we were a small
band we didn't have money to be in the studio
and record and you know but not too long ago
it wasn't easy to record like it is now now everybody
can record in their in their bedroom in their
basement yeah technology is really really pulled
forward more than what he used to be. Back then
he'd have to go into a studio and get studio
time and pay for musicians and whatever. So we
lived along for a while and finally we decided
it's time where we run our run, we've got to
put some new stuff out. So we got a call from
Johnny Garcia in Nashville. Wow, man. He heard
some of our stuff, and he says, hey, man, why
don't you guys come out here and record a song
with for us? Anything you want. Just record one
song and let's see what we can do. Right. So
we chose another John Gonzalez song. And you
know, John Gonzalez, rest in peace. He was a
great, great talent. You know, he wrote the first
two albums. Great, great songwriter. I learned
a lot from him. But we went up. To Nashville,
we decided to drive the very first time that
we went. So it was me and Roy and one of our
drummers. And on the way to pick up Roy, before
we took off, I talked to the drummer. And I said,
you know what, I don't want to record another
song that we've already done. I want to do something
original. So Johnny had written a song called
Heartbreak Song. And he had peddled it around
or tried to move it around for about five or
six years and nobody picked it up. So he says,
man, I'd be honored if you guys take this song
and make it your freshman release. Because we
were going to release it to Texas radio at the
time. Texas radio had just come across from Red
Dirt Radio. And that was a whole new... universe
because everything has always gone through Nashville
and the billboard charts and all that stuff.
So now we have the Texas charts, Texas radio,
and thank God for people like Aaron Watson and
Kevin Fowler and those guys who paved the way
for Texas artists to have a platform. So we said,
yeah, we're going to go record this other song,
Roy, on the way up there. We told him. And we
had already been practicing this other song for
weeks. This for the first 10 hours. Jason didn't
want to turn around. I was like, hey, we're going
to do this song instead. And I was like, hm.
And I just see, I look towards the front. I see
Jason like this. And I'm like this behind him
going, all right. So we get up there to Nashville.
And we get in the studio. And we try to do some
stuff. And Johnny says, no. Go out tonight get
fucked up as drunk as you can get and then be
here at eight o 'clock in the morning But we
went in and laid down the track and it was a
masterpiece I mean we got it in one track and
it was amazing and so we You know, it's not cheap,
right? So we had put in quite a bit of money
into that. We did a music video, professionally
done music video with Jason Johnston as the director.
We had done a whole line of merchandise. We had,
you know, everything was out. We were set to
release. World premiere done. We had sponsors
by 5x5 Brewery. We did a world premiere viewing
at his place. And a week before... the song was
set to release trace adkins picked up the song
and released it oh i won't forget that now you
look at me like i gotta talk to you he recorded
it in three days wow and released it in one day
and this song had taken us months to to produce
and then to to publish and to get all the pieces
of the puzzle we had dumped a ton of money into
this thing because we went all out and we just
got sucker punched and you know we could have
still released it but a week later after Trace
Atkins released it. That's a Rick James slap
right there. So I'm sure he didn't know or realize
it. So that's when we decided hey man we're you
know we got screwed on our first two albums.
We got semi screwed here, you know, it's just
business thing a tiny right, right? We're never
gonna get screwed again. We're gonna write our
own shit We're not gonna rely on anybody else's
talent ever again, right? You're gonna sing the
songs and I'm gonna write them and that's it
And so that's what we've been doing since then
and I gotta give credit man that first song he
wrote Hit number one in West Texas one of the
radios so we were Truly blessed. That's awesome.
We went 29, man. You know, if you hit 20 in the
Texas charts, you make it to the Billboard charts.
Right. We were nine spots away. For a freshman
album to release in the Texas charts, we debuted
at number 99, which is unheard of. Nobody releases
in the top 100. Our radio promoter at the time
was one of the best in the industry, Debbie Green.
She's retired now, and she told us flat out.
You guys don't expect to be in the top 200. You
all are new. Nobody knows you. We're known here
locally, but in the state, in Oklahoma, Louisiana,
New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, wherever Texas
radio charts are, we're virtually unknown. But
we debuted, we broke the top 100, and everybody
freaked out. And then every week we just climbed
16 spots, 16 spots, 16 spots. We spent all 26
weeks on the chart, and that's unheard of. That
is, man. Unheard of. So it was a big accolade
for us, and then COVID hit. Yeah, I know everybody
too. Well, that's what we're looking at when
you guys want videos. Yeah, that's one of the
ones I put on YouTube when you guys walked in
the first thing Yeah, so we've been back now.
We just went back January to Nashville and we
laid down about four tracks, and we got a new
song coming out May 16th, it's released, it's
called Prayin' Jason, Prayin' for Rain. Roy's
is all the lead vocal, let me tell you man, he
speaks a lot highly about me, but I hitched my
wagon to Roy because he's got all the talent,
man, and I've never heard anybody that can sing
like Roy, so I know what I've got, and you know.
I don't mind investing. We don't mind investing
and putting into this and taking it and see where
we can go. We're old, man, but we're still going
to give it a shot. We're not like the young guys
out there. I hear giggles in the background.
I heard it. I heard it. Quiet in the studio.
I heard it. I heard it. Yeah, and I totally see
what you're saying, man. I mean, for something
like that. First of all, I mean, I would take
it, yeah, as a slap in the face, as far as that
happening. But also at the same time, I look
at it like, shit. I go, people are seeing what
we're doing. They see the potential we have,
and they're grabbing this and running with it
before we do. That means we have something there.
And the next step, which was the best idea to
do, is write your own stuff, your own music,
and go year out. Because you gotta really now
free fall into big waters. on your right and
say let's see let's see now we're gonna find
out what we got right you know and that's the
big test but i mean you guys like i said i've
seen you guys perform i have a buddy of mine
text me during the week because dude have you
seen this guy man i go who i go check it out
he was like i'm on a scene and i go oh yeah High
school. That's the funny Roy at the Campanile
downtown in west of Texas singing karaoke. He's
like, he's going to be on the show. He's going
to be like, well, I'll be damned. And it's funny,
man. It's like, it's... I'm glad I got the opportunity
to interview you guys. I mean, the stars lined
up perfectly before you guys are going to launch
again. You see, and I got more fans asking, Daniel
Nunez asking, any story behind the Loving You
in Mexico? Loving You in Mexico was written by
our dear friend, may he rest in peace, John Gonzalez,
who's also the same writer as the first two albums,
which include Strange Thing. Loving you in Mexico
don't really matter and don't really matter around
here a lot of saw a lot of those songs haven't
really been put out but Yeah, it was written
by John Gonzalez back in the day when he had
the band Texas drifter Texas drifters I think
they stopped playing what? mid 90s or something
like that, okay, but uh We lost our buddy about
three months ago Yeah, the song written by John
Gonzalez. It's a great song. We're going to write
a part two, though. It's going to be called,
Loving You in Wesseco, not Mexico. And we to
Donna. Donna doesn't rhyme with anything. I'm
sorry, Donna. You don't rhyme with anything.
Richie Valentine took that boat. Richie and I
took that a long time ago. Ain't no more songs
gonna be written by now. I'm sorry. When it comes
to the movie La Bamba on stage, while we're performing,
you guys can't hear or listen to anything we're
saying on stage. But I turn around and I look
at Jason, and he knows what I'm talking about,
and he's like, that art contest, I want it. I
want it. So we're throwing lines from La Bamba.
And there's a baby coming along. It's art lessons.
See? They even gave me a drafting tool. I just
know what Mico. So, yeah, yeah. But it was written
by Mr. John Gonzalez, man. It's a hell of a song.
It's just, you know, Jason loves to tell us on
stage, all right, I love New Mexico. I avoid
it just because, I don't know, I mean, I love
the song. It's just, it's back then. So I don't
feel it as much as I used to. Right. But it is
a great song, guys. It is a great song. Now,
when you guys are on stage performing, whether
it is at many venues, I'm pretty sure you do
a couple. I'm pretty sure you get a Coca Cola
for a lot of weddings, a lot of extra family
reunions, all that good stuff. When you play
in venues itself largely because I know there's
a tour coming up soon. We're talking about that
before you came on the podcast way before all
this got set up. When you're on stage, do you
still perform the old? old music along with the
new stuff that you're coming out with? Just as
a like, you know, hey, don't forget we played
this also, you know. We do it every chance we
get, you know. Again, it's stuff that we've done
forever. And I, you know, we struggle with it
because you take a look at Kiss. Kiss has been
playing the same songs, the same set. for what
30 40 years yeah and people still love it but
when when we play it when we play our old stuff
it's kind of like oh man let's let's play something
new right you know right um and you know believe
it or not we played all over the state and all
over the region and The valley is a very tough
market, man. It's tough. You're preaching to
the choir, my friend. I love the 956, but to
make it down here, if you can make it in the
valley... It's like the New York. You can make
it anywhere. It's like the New York. We've made
friends out on the road, and we try to bring
them down so people have a... It's a different
response. They just don't. the valley likes what
they like and what they want. So we try to give
it to them as much as we can. Some of the old
songs, like Roy said, we kind of get... tired
of them, but people ask for them. As a matter
of fact, the other day we were at a gig and somebody
tipped us a hundred bucks to play one of our
old 120 dollars. And we hadn't played that song
in 10 years. And so there we are in the back,
we're all talking, okay, it's a key of E and
then what? And then I'm talking with the crowd.
We learned it in two minutes and we turned around
and we're blessed with something. They turned
out great. Top notch musicians that could do
anything, so we pushed it out. and they loved
it, you know. When we do concerts, like opening
up for Midland or John Party or those, we always
play most of our original stuff. But when we're
playing out in the clubs, we do a lot of covers,
you know, people like to hear their favorite
songs. So we try to mix it up as best we can.
And so, I mean, quick question to Jason, growing
up, In the RGV, did you see yourself being where
you're at right now? As far as the band itself?
That's... You know... Throwing out of reason.
Yeah, you know... Get off my face! This was a
dream of mine. Like, I'm living the life I want
to live now. But I didn't at the time. And actually
we have a song about it that's coming out, you
know, that I wrote about the... this exact subject
but you know I lived a life that everybody expected
me to live until you know I was a grown man you
know my parents expected me to live a certain
way my wife expected my ex -wife or whatever
lived expected me to live a certain way so I
lived up to everybody else's expectations and
I never lived for myself and you know this is
who I am and this is who I should have been.
I just didn't have the balls to do it when I
was a young, a youngster. A young book. Yeah.
So, you know, so yeah, I could see myself doing
this as a kid and I could dream about it, but
it was just a dream. You know, it, it, I never
imagined that I could. You know, play in front
of people like we've played in major stadiums,
major arenas. Going to Nashville, I never imagined
this. So this is a dream come true for me. Same
question to Roy, man. What do you think, Roy?
What was the question again? Who was it? Roy
grew up in this. He always knew he was going
to be destined for greatness. I wanted to be
a porn star, man. But, no, I got that from my
future set son. I remember him talking to his
mom. Look, she's on, as a matter of fact, hi,
Dave. But I remember, I remember the future set
son saying, I wanna be a porn star. And I was
like, damn. First of all, you're telling your
mom that. Is that wrong? No. I'm telling my mom
again. Thank you for the glitter tea, I just
can't stand it. I mean, I've always dreamt of
being a musician. I just didn't think I would
take it serious. I was just like, oh yeah, every
kid wants to be a rock star. I grew up with pictures
of these guys. But he made a lot of sense. I
can't agree with what he was saying because I've
always done it. How weird. I had a little fall
out with my fiance last night, and he nailed
it right now. I've always done what everybody's
wanted to do. I went to medical school and blah,
blah, blah. It's something I didn't want to do,
and I just dropped that until maybe yesterday.
I said, you know what? I finally figured out
this is what I want to do. You know what I mean?
It has its ups and downs, man. No one knows behind
the scenes. It's terrible. There's times where
David, David, who the hell is David? There's
times Jason and I. Steve Norris. Peter North,
Peter North, Peter North. Robert, put that in
my head. Don't even finish that sentence. Go
on. it's behind the scenes. This is why I get
upset sometimes. Do some of your old songs and
there's times where you got to please a crowd.
Most of the time you got to please a crowd, but
there's times as a musician, you're like, okay,
we've done that song a million times. You get
fed up. It has its ups and downs. One of the
worst downs is you're never there for the family.
You're never there on holidays. That's our highest
paid gigs, holidays, for every musician. But
it's done good for me. It's done good for us.
It's done good for us. But yeah, I kind of figured
I ended up doing music. I kind of figured that
in high school when I saw the gym go crazy. You
know who you are. You know who you are. I got
to be there right here, you know? Hey, guys,
I know it's 1991, but we're going to have a podcast
in a few years. Please remember this. Please
write it down. We had good memory muscle. What
the hell is a podcast? We had good memory muscle
back then. We had to memorize 10 numbers. No,
yeah, yeah. My dream was to become a musician,
and he's helped me do it, and it's been going
good for us. Like I said, it has its ups and
downs, but you really got to just keep on pushing.
Yeah, I hear you. You got to keep on pushing.
It's hard. There's a lot of competition out there.
Yes. Yes, you know, I mean the only the worst
thing you can do is just be an ass about it and
oh shit We can sound but no You gotta unite together
and just help each other out. Yeah, and I'm supposed
to get on my Facebook yesterday You know, I mean,
there's nothing wrong with supporting somebody
else. It's not gonna affect me It's true, you
know, we've always been that bad and I'm not
throwing it out there I know it's gonna sound
weird because I said that but we've always been
that bad just You know, we we've had our time
we still have we still we're still in our time
But we've always had our time and still pushed
other local artists It's about helping each other
out being civil and have fun, man You know if
you get something good out of it great if you
get something bad Simona comes with the territory.
Yeah, exactly We run into a lot of a lot of people
that are competitive and we're not we're not
competing, you know No, but yeah, I mean people
for a while there, you know, and this happened
to the time of the scene to everybody is competing
against each other. And yeah, it shouldn't be
that way. And, you know, we, we, we, I guess
we become enlightened or whatever, but it's not
a competition. You know, I don't care if we go
first or last or who goes for it. I mean, when
we get on stage, we're going to do our thing
and we're going to play, you know, and, you know,
If you think we're your competition, then it's
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coming back to bucking crazy talk to me about
these venues coming up bro I know you got something
big I know we had something about radio something
radio tour radio tour Yeah, we got our song praying
for rain set for release on digital platforms
May 16th, but We released it to Texas radio Sooner
than that. So and and to promote it we have to
travel and do what's called a radio tour So we'll
be on radio tour not too not too long from now
we've also we're in production for our music
video for praying for rain, but If you want to
check us out, we're going to be at Silverados
this Friday night. We'll be together with Midnight
Run. Which, by the way, my brother just told
me, he goes, yeah, that's Dub's uncle. He's going
to be in the podcast. No, I put it on the page
to help promote for tomorrow's event. Oh, OK,
OK, I thought they were going to be there, too.
It's just bucking crazy. And then Saturday, we're
going to be in Fur, Texas with the Rattlesnake
Roundup. Oh, yeah, there you go. We'll be opening
up. We'll be opening up for Cody Canada and the
departed So that'll be fun. I've never we've
never played with him before so that's awesome.
We need a Maybe one performance we need to have
you and your crew go man Check out the backstage.
Oh my god, everything goes out throughout the
whole day No, man, so the story here's here's
one for you guys On tour you guys go on you say
you drive to most of the events. You don't do
the flying I'm glad you guys don't do the flight
thing because you learned a lot about each other
when you're on the road I don't know if you stay
in the bus itself or you rent a hotel or whatever.
Who stays with who? Who are the sleeping buddies?
Hold on, hold on, let me tell you, I'm glad you
brought this up. So there's this one time, I
have no idea what it was. We're a band camp now.
We had, not a few, we had a lot to drink. And
so I remember waking up to this, I swear to God,
I don't remember this happening. We were young.
We were young. It was a few years ago. We didn't
have money, man. When we were in Vegas, we only
had one hotel room. Oh, no! This was in San Antonio,
I think. Oh, God. Here we go. Man, I don't even
remember. Here we go. Well, we drank till like
6 a .m. Welcome to the R -rated version of Chunipata.
No! No, no, no! I get it. We were at South Piner
Island. This is gonna take a minute. It won't...
I won't hop the camera. So we played at Louie's
backyard. OK. And we had an open tab. Oh, no.
And that's when Louie said, your guitar player,
guitar player, has already drained morning in
a tab. Oh, they cut us off? Yeah, they cut us
off. Hey, Alex, sounds for me right after watching
this? Luckily, we still got paid. But anyways,
we stayed in a room. Mind you, there's six of
us in one room. Oh, no. So I happen to be next
to Jason. I don't know. Maybe it's the long hair.
I don't know. I'm joking. I'm joking, James.
He's going to kill me at home. But I remember,
I remember, I remember my cousin saying, let's
go to the beach. It was just six in the morning.
I go, no, I'm tired. Well, there's beer in the
fridge. It was Keystone. You know who that is,
Isaac Bazin. So I was like, 12 pack? Let's go.
So we go to the beach. We're drinking. We're
going live on Facebook. And I'm like, what the
hell? All right, I think it's time to go back.
So we go back. I fall asleep wherever I could
fall asleep. I fall asleep, and I wake up to
this. Hey, what the fuck? Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Those aren't pillows. I've never jumped out of
bed so fast. Not even when I was late for work
did I jump out of bed. So fast. It wasn't even
a spoon. It was what you call those spoons when
you're cooking. His fucking leg went over me.
And I was like, hey, whoa! I was like, is he
Sam? I don't know. He said, he said Rosie. Hold
on. Remember that scene from Obama when he was
like... I was like, thank you for, you better
face the wall. I was like, thank you for Rosie.
You know what? All I heard was... Oh, shoot.
Sorry, bro. Sorry, sorry, sorry. So I was a pitcher
that night. So anyway, so yeah, ever since then,
that's when La Bamba came out. Now, now, if we
go somewhere. He gets his own room. I get my
own room. And we get it. Usually we're getting
an Airbnb now because there's so much easier
than hotels and everybody kind of seems where
they want. But I always get my own room now.
He latches double locks and shit. So mind it.
Real quick. Let me squeeze this in real quick.
At the time, my cousin and I were at the beach
drinking. You know, we get to where we parked.
I was like, where the fuck is our truck? My truck.
He's like, I don't know. And I'm like, fuck,
dude. Well, in the last two minutes, I was like,
all right, well, let's just go back to our hotel.
We walked. It felt like a mile to our hotel.
It really was only a block. We get there and
we're like, fuck. So we found out where my truck
was at. It was, they picked it up. It was in
an area where I was supposed to have it, which
was weird. Cause I know they are, cause I worked
in South Ponder Island. Yeah, but you can't park
anywhere on the SPI. Yeah, now you can't. So
anyway, so days go by and I'm like, okay, we
picked up our truck, right? I had to pay 300
and something. Days go by and I'm like, what
the hell? How did they take that truck? I mean,
it was just us. We were only about a hundred
yards from my truck. So I go back, because remember
I told you we went live, right? I go back, and
I'm looking at it, and I'm like, we're all here
going, yeah, drink it. In the background, they're
hooking up my chart. They're fucking punting
it, and they're hooking it up. I need that clip.
Find that clip for me. It's on my Facebook, but
like, are you talking about? Oh my god. This
is the last time we played at Louie's, like,
nine years ago? That's the only place I had on
my Facebook, and then I was like, looking at
the video, it's like, dude, they're taking our
fucking truck and we're over here chugging beers.
You can literally see the guy get off the truck,
having a great morning, drinking his coffee,
looking at the truck with the lights on, and
we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah! Hey, man, look
how big of his truck. and it's three hundred
and one dollars dollars yes oh wow yeah and we
had three hundred dollars yes and they fucker
wouldn't give us to us wow we had to go find
quarters and shit for the one dollar because
he wouldn't give us Perfect timing just like
a movie something. Yeah. Yeah, so when I turn
around this way to look towards my truck he just
taking off and I was like God hates people. God
really, like, a millisecond just to go like this,
like, hey! You know what? I think it is a blessing.
No, I would have gotten arrested. Exactly. Exactly.
I think it is a blessing. Someone would look
it out for you. Except for that one dollar. One
dollar. That guy was such a jerk. He was like,
no, you need a dollar. Come on, man. It's just
a dollar, man. No? He didn't want to let us go.
Wow. I've got a question for you. Uh oh, here
we go. Yeah, yeah. Here we go. Have you ever
been to a Bucking Crazy show? No. Actually, yes.
You have? Yes, I have. No, I'm talking about
a real Bucking Crazy. Oh, a real Bucking Crazy
show? No. That's a real Bucking Crazy. The other
one was just a step down. The only Bucking Crazy
I've gone to is when you guys played in Downtown
Donna at that festival, Heather. Oh, yeah. And
I'm only a block away from there, so I hear Roy's
voice. Roy's voice, you can recognize Roy's voice.
No, it goes, where you going? I grab back, but
it's like a moth on a light, dude. I know this
voice. It's so pretty! Stop it! So I head out
there, I go out there, I'm walking out there,
and I see you got your phone. And the crowd,
the crowd. You guys have a fan base, bro. I'm
not gonna lie, you guys have an awesome fan base.
And you can see it on the, even on that video
you take, they took there at the Campana when
you're doing the karaoke, there's so many people
with cameras just taking pictures. I go, bro,
I mean, when you see that happening around you,
you're doing karaoke, people know who you are
already. I mean, doesn't that... Like, shit.
I'm there. I'm right there. It's amazing, man.
You know, when stuff like that happens, it's
like, it takes me back. And all this anger I
have towards me when I'm like, and I talk to
Jason about it, I was like, man, I'm done with
this. You can't please the crowd. Or when you're
trying your best, they bring you down. It's like,
nah, nah. You know what? You know, I mentioned
the Valley's one of the toughest markets to...
It'll break you. You know, they can lift you
up. and build you up and be your number one supporter,
but at the same time, they'll rip your ass out.
And serve a tea on a platter. Yeah, serve a tea
on a platter. Not even. Shit. So we've walked
the line a few times and teeter tottered here
and there and pissed some people off, I'm sure.
Right. But, you know... For the most part, the
fans are loyal and they support us and we feel
it. And we love it, getting on stage here in
the Valley and feeling the love. And you talk
about the fans, because I know one particular
guy right now. I know he's a fan and also an
artist himself. I know you took a picture with
him. This is Sean Mecca. Oh, I know him. He reminds
me so much of you, man, because he started young
and he's working himself up. You know what he's
doing. He's doing great. I know he's actually
gonna be on the road. I think this weekend, my
little brother was telling me they're performing
up in San Antonio. I'm not sure where else. Yeah,
San Antonio. Yeah, so baby cakes. No, but when
you get young, town like that come up to you.
I mean, what's to you guys? What's the feeding
like, man? You know for me it's great and and
a lot of times people come and ask hey, man How
do we do this or how do we do that or how'd you
get here? How'd you get there? You know the biggest
advice I'd give a lot of to the young folks is
it's know your worth man Don't don't do it away
for free right? There's so many promoters and
venues out there trying to take advantage of
the artists You know that you know what they're
they're in business to right they're trying to
make some money I also and but there's the right
way to do things so I always tell the young guys,
don't sell yourself short, charge. There's equipment,
there's time. People don't know what it takes
to put on a show. Exactly, exactly. They think
it's just get in and get up and play and leave,
and it's not. A show is days of preparation and
practice and thousands of dollars of equipment.
I always tell the young guys, don't. Don't play
for exposure, man. Yes, you think you need exposure,
but you don't have to. Avoid it if you can. That's
the advice I always give to the young guys. So
like I said, Sean took a picture with you. I
know you can tell when Sean takes... Yeah, go
ahead. Oh, actually, there's one right there
so you can... Okay, never mind. Seeing the way
Sean's expression when he's taking the picture,
I mean, what is your... What advice can you give
somebody like that, Roy? I mean, come up to Sean.
Man, he's doing it, man. I mean, there's not
much I can give him. He's pretty much in his
songs that I've learned. I work out to his music.
I love his music. Listen to it every day. And
I love his message. There was one of them that
said he's from Texas. And that's what caught
me. And Jason showed me, I think it was, may
John rest in peace, we're at his funeral. And
he said, hey man, I've been thinking about maybe
collaborating. And then we went to Nashville
and then we recorded one song and I was like,
this should be the song. And he says, yeah, I
already reached out to him on that. He's doing
everything right, man. But yeah, no, you just
gotta have a. You got to have thick skin. I didn't
have thick skin. I think I've gained it now.
Yeah, for the last few years. I would get so
butthurt for it. Oh, man. Oh, you sound like
shit. Now it's like, well, you're the one that's
drunk. So I think I sound pretty good. But, but,
you know, just just get out there, put up with
the punches and just be humble. That's it, man.
But Sean. Shout out to my boy, Sean. He just
played with Hank Williams' grandson. We played
with him in missions. I'm waiting for the call,
Sean. I'm still waiting. Sean? What's up, Sean?
I'm supposed to be collaborating on this. He's
too busy performing. I'm a big fan of Sean. Check
him out, Sean Mecca. He's got Texas Heat. He's
got... Tasted tequila. Just he's got some good
music. Yeah, and he's a very nice guy So I went
around man is from you know from his early stuff
to now It's totally totally different sounds
which yeah I mean the last couple of my brother
shows me a giant little Shonda this time and
she doesn't go bro. He's switching gears He's
on it man. Yeah, I want to go see him at the
island about three weeks ago I think and I got
to see it live for myself I fell in love with
it, man. Wow, got to meet him, cool guy. I was
like, man, we need to collaborate, and maybe
in the future we will, right? But he's doing
everything right, man. He's a humble guy. He's
a good guy. I just hope nothing but the best
for him. Jen, I have another question here. What
is a country artist you all would like to open
up for? Alyssa, are you drinking? I'm drinking.
What? That's a good one. I don't know. I mean,
Garth Brooks. Garth Brooks. Garth Brooks? No,
no. Jay's like, oh. Sounds like a lot of beers
you're gonna have to take for that one. I don't
know. I mean, Morgan Wallin? Maybe Morgan. Morgan's
badass. I love Morgan. Morgan's cool. Morgan,
I don't know. We're not into the new country.
Right. What do you call it? Bro country? You
know, it'd be cool for somebody like, if Cross
Canadian or Ragweed. Oh! Or, you know... Well,
that'll be this Saturday. Well, it's Cody. Yeah.
It's Herb Pike Trevadors. That's another band
I've looked up. You know, some of the more folk
bands, Americana bands, those are cool. I'd like
to do that. Whiskey Meyers? Whiskey Meyers. This
guy's like... Let me tell you. For those of you
who don't know what that is. It's burnt tongue.
I was introduced to Whiskey Meyers because of
Jason. Jason. I heard a couple songs, I just
didn't know what it was. But man, Whiskey Meyers,
wow. Amazing, man. Amazing. Cody Jinx. Cody Jinx.
Of course, he sells on stadiums. Yeah. Man. And
he has nothing on radio. He's just coming around.
Oh, I know who. I know who I would want to open
up for. Blackberry Smoke. Oh. These are, I mean,
your names are like wild. Blackberry Smoke. Look
those up after we get off the pot at the club.
Oh, you're going to love it. Yeah. You're going
to go, hey. My turn. Are you crazy? What? When
you hear all of our music coming out in the next
year, you're going to say, oh, that's why they're
influenced. When should we expect this album
to drop? Well, we started the album. No question.
I don't even know. Right before COVID, that's
how long we've been working on it, four or five
years. So we've got four songs down, and we've
got another four in pre -production. I would
say by the end of the year, if we can stay on
schedule. Cool, man. Guys, we're an hour into
the pocket. Like I said, when you're rolling,
you're rolling, baby. You're rolling. But I know
you brought a guitar. A guitar? We brought a
guitar! It's a two -by -four with a few strings
in it. But guys, forgive me for the sound to
see who picks it up, because I know these mics
tend to... in and out on as far as like acoustic
play so we're gonna try our best to i'm gonna
clean it up as best as possible but uh guys i
give you uh unplugged but crazy We'll start with
Jason. Jason, once years roll by, you guys continue
your success and what you guys are doing, and
it's all said and done, what do you want to be
remembered by? Good one. Yeah, so for me, that's
easy. I'd want to be remembered as one of the
hardest working guys in the music industry. Starting
from nothing and building something great. You
know, treating people right. And, of course,
my footprint would be the songwriting that I've
been doing. That stuff's for eternity, man. It's
out there forever. And it hits you once you hear
it on the radio and you say, hey, that's mine.
And it's there forever. So yeah, that's my legacy.
And that's what I want my kids and my grandkids
to be able to say when I'm far and gone, hey,
that's my grandfather. Right, exactly. Or my
grandfather did that. That's me. That's you,
Roy? Oh, man. Pretty much the same thing, man.
That's it. Bye. Pretty much the same thing. He
took the words out of my mouth. We just want
to be known as the man who tried and succeeded
and just, you know, just like you said, you heard
my voice and Donna, and you said, that's Roy,
I gotta go check him out. That's all we want,
you know. We just wish the best for everybody.
I know we're all going through hard times right
now, this time, but we wish the best for everybody.
And if you don't mind, I'd like to give a shout
out to Pure Films. And sweet, who was it, sweet
photography? Sweet Isaac, what's his name? Oh
yeah, Sweet Life. Sweet Life. Thank you so much
for what you do, but not just for Bug Crazy,
but for all the local artists, man. You go out
there and they donate their time. You know, they
give you top quality printouts and video and
they don't get anything out of it. So shout out
to them. But just always remember. When you think
of Donna, Texas or the real Grand Valley, it's
fucking crazy, baby. Man, yeah. Guys, social
media pages where they can follow both of y 'all.
Start with Roy. Roy Torres on Facebook and Instagram.
Jason Moreno on Facebook and Instagram and...
Yeah, don't follow me personally. You can follow
the boys. I fucked up already. Sorry. Hey, like
this, get a shot of me like this. Or go to our
website. Get a shot of me real quick. Get a shot
of me. There you go. Bucketcrazymusic .com has
all our links, all our music, all our videos.
You can see all our shows, our calendar there.
And soon, soon to open up soon, we'll be our
merchandise shop guys as well, so. Yeah, I actually
had somebody here, it's the, where Jizzy got
me as merch. I saw that, it's Martin. Asking...
I still need a fucking crazy shirt. Oh, is that
Jessica? Jessica, shout out to Jessica. OK, so
real quick before we leave, when I was married
back in the day, she was my cunha. Shout out
to Jessica. There you go. She's in Colorado.
She's like, shh. Too bad. Shout out to Jessica.
Oh, I saw she had one of your shirts. Yes, she
actually won the contest. And also, you're Rob.
We got exclusive video of Mr. Rob Romero. If
you would like to see it, we can show it. Of
him being Peter North? No. Rob, you better behave,
bro. I got some videos. I'll show you right after
we're done here. Rob, I know we were trying secretly
to get those pictures from striptease. Send them
to me. I got your back. A few months ago. I got
your back, buddy. Hey, buddy, you know what?
Real quick, man, a shout out to all the local
artists. Midnight Run, you got Tony Perez, Rustic
Rose, Brody Rivers, all the local artists. Thank
you, man. We've shared the same stage. You're
great, guys. Bless your heart, man. Keep doing
what you're doing, man. There you go, man. There
you go. Man, first thing I want to say is thank
you guys for coming out. having a little fun
with me here to give you an hour, eight minutes
in, which rarely go past a one hour mark. Really?
I'm sorry. I don't know. I don't mind this, man,
because I mean, it's like I said, I haven't seen
you in a minute, bro. It's been a while, you
know, and not before. We can make a part two,
man. I know, I know the invitation. I know you
said that whenever I have, fortunately, Chu can't
show up, I can actually have you come on. Maybe
I might bring you on when I bring Shawn Mekka.
So you can actually toss some questions out here.
And I got Rob saying, like, when are you going
to write your part of the song? Shit, shit, and
oh boy. No, but yeah, like I said that doors
all the way you guys ever want to come back and
promote more events that are coming up your way.
Thank you. Give me a heads up. I'd gladly make
space for you guys and come on in and do your
thing again, man. I appreciate you guys coming
out. Keep doing what you're doing, man. Thank
you so much. I know my camera's really out of
focus. Look at me. Guys, great podcast today.
Unfortunately, Chiu wasn't here. Hopefully, now
that the elevator is working, we will have him
back on the podcast in two weeks, because the
next podcast is going to be spread out a little
bit. So, but other than that, man, that is the
podcast for the night. Thank you so much to Bucking
Crazy, Ray Torres, and Jason Moreno on the podcast
today. A lot of fun, a lot of reminiscing of
the 90s. I need to let that one out because that
was era. Yes. That's part one. We still need
four other parts, Mark. Trust me, we're going
to get the other four parts there. We went to
go play in San Antonio, I know you're wrapping
up, but we had to play in San Antonio, and we
had more 90s people there than we had a show
here locally. And you're gonna see that for the
next episode when you guys come back here, because
I wanna hear that story. Ladies and gentlemen,
thank you once again for tuning in tonight. Next
week, Monday, 7 .30, I got El Cacahuate, we'll
be sitting right here with Mooncrat, and we're
gonna talk about that stage dive he did 30 feet
high into no ring on three guys. Sound like a
porno already? That's what you're crazy about
right there, dude. That's the guy you need on
stage. He's nice for you. Ladies and gentlemen,
thank you so much, and we will see you next week,
7 .30 sharp. Ladies and gentlemen, peace out.