What's going on guys welcome back to the Juneau
Podcast. He's here! He finally made it! He was
able to walk up them stairs. Oh god. It's gonna
be more fun tumbling down the stairs. Yeah, I
told him I was gonna push him. It should be fun.
Episode 238, I believe. Okay. I think it's 238.
Look at your screen, dude. Look at your screen.
I'm looking at it. 237. 237. Okay. 237. We have
a great episode for you guys today. We've got
another local wrestler in the house from New
Breed. Great guy. I can't wait for you guys to
meet him, but before we start, let's go ahead
and do the opening. Welcome back to the Chugging
Podcast. Today's episode, it's gonna be a very
interesting one, because we'll be having a little
chit chat behind the camera. And I love chit
chatting with the guests before we start. Only
reason why we get to know the person just a little
bit more is to get more comfortable. And there's
a lot of stuff that we're gonna cover the first
half. The second half, we will get into the wrestling
thing. But the first half, we're gonna get to
know Mr., let me get him going right here, CY.
Welcome to the Chew New Podcast, bro. Thank you,
it's a pleasure. Very happy to be here. I know
I reached out to you at one point and I was like,
I'm gonna take a chance, see this guy maybe wants
to jump on with us. And I was like, oh wait,
let's see the answer back in here. Answer back
right away. And the good thing is that he said,
you know what, yeah, let's go for it. So I'm
like, oh man, he don't know what the pile of
crap he just said. Well, not just that he took
a pretty big hit one time and then in the ring
in the ring and we'll talk about that later on
Later on the podcast cuz that's one we want to
really get down to it for the we have we have
diagrams and questions Angles and shot the math
is a math But before we get started man, thank
you very much for coming to the podcast with
us man. And I appreciate you reaching out come
to the little Studio that we have beautiful little
studio we got now, but we're gonna get to it
Tell us a little bit about yourself where you
grew up, you know, how you got into wrestling
and what made you become Literally the shot that
you took on that two weeks three weeks ago How
can you survive that? But let's start from me
and tell us a little bit about yourself man where
you grew up and where you from from Louisiana
I was born in New Orleans, but grew up in the
very very top northwest corner of Louisiana a
little bit of town called Vivian It's about 10
minutes from Arkansas, about five minutes from
Texas. I lived there until I was like 28. It
was the last few years that I was living there
that I got into wrestling the first time. But
what really prepared me for stepping into that
was I got a black belt in karate, Brazilian jiu
-jitsu, cross -trained with some judo guys, did
some Muay Thai. The worst injury I've ever had
wrestling was a good kick in the liver, which
I thought paralyzed me for about 30 seconds.
But martial arts, broke nose, a couple teeth
broken off above the gum, separated, real broken
hand. That was much harder than the wrestling
on my body. So I got to do some wrestling for
a few years back when I was about 28, 30, 31.
At that time, I wrestled as El Chupacabra, the
Anglo Luchador. There wasn't a lot of wrestling
where I was in that area. So in karate, you ever
see those guys are beating up the invisible men
around them? So that's a kata. If you have someone
fill in for the invisible people, that's called
a bunkai. So we only would really have a competition
for that for like once a year. I was like, man,
that looks like pro wrestling to me. You got
your guys there. taking the bumps or taking the
hits or making the guy doing the kata look great.
Right. If nothing else, if I could just convince
enough of my karate buddies and judo buddies
to come together and do this, we got something
and then I will start moving into the more wrestling
type stuff. Right. Right. So I bought a rent,
found a place to store it, bought a ring, started
teaching myself how to do stuff more in a wrestling
way. Right. And then I was like, well, let me.
I'm going to go ahead and put on a show. There
were some guys that were within an hour or two
away. They weren't super great, but they were
close. Hey, it's all good. It's all good. And
it was back in the day of MySpace. So I got on
MySpace. Oh, that's a lot of age there, people.
There's a lot of age right there. It's fine.
Well, before you get on, I got some already,
already comments popping in. You can see those
right there for yourself, Mr. CYD. We got a,
hey, it's my favorite, really? Really, Casito?
We're already starting off so early? Wow, okay.
Tell the world. And then we got another one here
from Nina Gutierrez. And then I have another
one here from Susana Lozano. There you go, we
got some comments. Don't worry, you've seen every
single comment that's coming in through, guys.
You can see it on the opposite screen on the
other side of the pod right here. Yeah, so go
on so you're doing the you're doing the rehab
the ring you're teaching yourself What comes
next after that? So when I decided I I was going
to do a show I had to get a couple guys at least
that really knew what they were doing So which
guy Andy Dalton and at the time he went by the
name Angel of sin his real name is Byron Wilcott
then Big Daddy yum yum He's done some developmental
territory stuff for WWE. So he came in, he did
a show. He was actually from Shreveport, which
wasn't very far away. So it was whenever I did
put on a show and I booked him to come in, he
could go visit his mom. So it was good for that
because he lived a little ways off. And after
a few times coming in, doing the show, working
out with me a little bit beforehand, he decided
I didn't suck and I wouldn't have done it. So
he invited me to To go with him when he was booked
on shows and I would get there a few hours before
the show We would work out for a couple hours.
I'd go sit off to the side. They would do the
show and after a few months eventually somebody
didn't show up and Byron was comfortable telling
the promoter that guy over there can work and
that's when I started getting bookings I did
that show I didn't do anything stupid. I did
what I was told I did it well enough and that's
when I started going and doing shows. I did that
for a few years. There's a sad version of what
happens after that, that has me leave wrestling
for 15 years. But then, back to the good part,
I moved back to the Valley. I'd been here a couple
years right when the pandemic started. So I completely
missed all of the live events that y 'all have
so much of down here. All the festivals and all
the, oh my gosh, so much wrestling. Because back
when I did it before every show practically was
four hours away. You almost had to go to at least
Dallas. Yeah And now I mean there's like two
three shows somewhere in the valley almost every
weekend. It is so beautiful Yeah, so all of the
fans and all of the wrestlers are So incredibly
lucky to have that environment here to train
and to work in and still growing. Yeah Growing
quite a bit man growing quite a bit. Well when
I came back this summer I was looking for stuff
to do. I happened to see New Breed do a show
there at the Moon Rock. And then I saw that they
had a regular show at the Landmark. I said, well,
I got to go see some more of that. I really liked
the way that they work together. So I went and
I saw their show there. They're like, oh, they
said they have a wrestling school. You know what?
I don't think I'm too old yet. Well, you just
said nice face, bro. Yeah, I think I'm still
in good enough shape. Let me reach out to these
guys and see what I can still do. Right. So I
was blessed that I did get back into doing weights
and got into some yoga the last couple of years,
get my flexibility as good as it's ever been,
which ain't great. But went in there, worked
out with them, took a month or so to knock some
of the rust off, but I could still do almost
everything I could do back in my 20s. Um, it
was, what was longer was getting my mind right.
Um, how do I read everything? How do I coordinate
everything? And then I was like, yeah, I can
still do that. And the new brie guys are a great
group of guys to train with and to learn with.
So that's kind of how the wrestling journey in
broad strokes happened. So I owe really, really
big debts to some people that gave me opportunities
that they didn't, you know, they weren't getting
anything out of anything. Sometimes it took away
from what they could have been working on to
help me. I really appreciated that a lot. Right.
Yeah. You got more people saying, love you, Eugene.
Great interview. What a handsome wrestler. Ms.
Suzanne Lozano, we're reaching out here. And
I got also Frank the Tank tuning in. He's the
toughest at -hole I've ever met. And he goes,
I hate you, Toxico. Oh, by the way, I saw the
video. STDs, way to go, buddy. Wow. You do one
podcast, like you said. But so after the wrestling,
I mean, you're doing the wrestling now. What
do you do on your off time besides that? hang
out with Susana Lozano. What I do to pay more
bills than wrestling does. My master's degree
is in counseling, but when I first moved to Texas
back in 08 -09, it happened to be at the time
that the state supported living centers were
having to increase the services in their behavior
services department. So working with the guys
and gals that had an intellectual disability,
but also had some comorbid behavioral issues
that would make them either dangerous to themselves
or others. So that was my introduction to working
specifically with the IDD, Intellectually and
Developmental Disabled Population, and to behavior
analysis as a field of psychology. I did a few
things in that currently. I'm the Senior Clinic
Director for Bright Path Behavior, and I oversee
the Alamo and the Harlingen clinics. And what
we do is early intervention, mostly it's little
kids, year and a half to two years old, all the
way up to five or six, we take everybody. And
then if they're older than that, it kind of depends
on what their challenging behaviors might be
like. Is it a good setting for them? with the
smaller kids and we help them develop their communication
skills, their adaptive skills so they can get.
Eventually, we hope to be able to participate
fully in school, to be able to live their life
and have friends and communicate with their family.
And it's been one of the best jobs I've ever
had. I love the people that I work with. And
when the families get to come back to us and
tell us, you know, My kids looking at me, you
know, it used to just not make that eye contact.
They used to not tell me what they were thinking.
If they were feeling uncomfortable, if they were
having a great time, they just didn't have the
words. So when mom and dad will tell us like,
hey, man, they're doing this now. They're telling
us they're participating in family things and
they're playing with their brothers and sisters.
That's awesome. Change in their lives. That's
awesome, man. And we did have a chit chat at
the very beginning. before we started the pod
and we are in the month of April, which is autism.
It doesn't work. I was telling a CYA here that
I do have a son that's in the spectrum. It's
a one -day -at -a -time thing. My son's great.
There's times when he's kind of off. There's
times where he's just upset. You just have to
roll with it. My wife is with him pretty much
most of the day, with him day in, day out. I
go to work and I come back and she's with him.
But it's amazing. It's amazing that there's so
many programs out there. You know we would try
to search for stuff you know we try to get him
maybe like into football or basketball maybe
uh self -defense you know something that he wants
to do is sometimes he's just like well you know
i don't really want to do that he shines away
he's more into the drawing animation all that
good stuff but i know you had told us a little
bit of something about the little unicorn right
here Eugene is a somewhat of a therapist himself
he's made by a company called Pillow Fort and
one of the things that they do is they make some
little critters like Eugene and they're weighted.
Lots of people, neurotypical or not, enjoy it,
but it's really, really common for the folks
with autism where weighted blankets, weighted
vests, or like a weighted stuffed animal, it's
soothing and it's extra relaxing. When I introduced
Eugene to some of the folks that work today,
one of the ladies that I work with, I've got
one of those guys, and I just set him on my chest
when I go to sleep, and it helps me go to sleep
better. So that's one of those beautiful things.
And if you've ever seen, if you haven't, everybody
should watch it. Temple Grandin, the movie. Dr.
Grandin is a lady with autism, and she was non
-verbal, so I think she was six. And when she
ended up eventually going to college, she made
what she called a squeeze box. And she was inspired
by seeing how the cattle, because her family
was in cattle, When they were giving them shots,
they'd run them through the chute and they'd
squeeze them. And the cattle would relax and
give them the shots. She's like, I'm freaking
out. It works for the cattle. Let me try it for
me. So she made a small version for herself.
No kidding. Yeah. I've seen this film. Yeah.
And she did like a little research project with
a bunch of neurotypical people. And most of them
also like, yes. This is a little weird, but you
know what? It does feel good. Right. Wow. So
that was some early research and just some pressure
as being a soothing, calming kind of a thing.
Right. Yeah. And I know there's a point where
she's going through every step of her life. There's
always a door and she opens it and goes into
something new. My favorite part is well, actually,
I'm going to spoil it for you guys. You've seen
it, but if you haven't, you should watch it where
they're at. I guess it's a gathering of parents
and children that are in the spectrum. And she
answers the question and he goes, do you have
a child that has autism? She's like, no. They
all turn around and goes, I have autism. They're
like, what? He goes, yeah, I went to college.
I did this, I did that. My mom, you see mom in
the background, she was tearing up so much. I'm
trying to hold it right now because it's a very
emotional moment. And the parents are like freaking
out like, oh my God, like a sense of hope, if
I may say. It's just a very great film. If you
guys want to look for it, it's a very great film.
So you work with these children almost every
day? I'm more of a paper pusher now. There's
so much paper to put. It helps me facilitate
the other behavior analysts and then the technicians
to be able to do their jobs better. Therapy is
expensive, so everybody's got insurance. So we
have to do the stuff the insurance wants us to
do. We have to document stuff the way they want
us to. And a big part of my job is to make sure
all that stuff is running smooth. Everybody has
all the materials they need so that they can
do the skills building exercises. So it's one
of those things where the title makes it sound
like I'm in charge. My day to day makes it feel
like I am the biggest gopher in the world. It's
totally worth it. At least you're doing your
part, man. You're doing your part to keep the
process going, man. And I know, I was reading
the shirt that you get. By the way, the cap,
these bat batteries, I love this. The merch is
amazing. You can see that right there. Oh, right
there. So you got that CYA. And he came in and
he was like, you're, check this out. And she
was like, look what you got. You got a new hat.
I go, what? Got a new hat. And sure enough, man,
these are awesome, man. And I got the shirt to
match it. This shirt you haven't put on yet?
The one that's like a rubber band off your body?
This is gonna stretch man. I love what it says
right here. It says, never apologize for being
an asshole. An asshole. An asshole. An asshole.
An asshole. An asshole. An asshole. An asshole.
An asshole. An asshole. An asshole. For being
an Athol. In the realm of trivia related stuff,
the Duke of Athol is the only person in Europe
allowed to have a private army. Really? Oh. He
doesn't do anything with it. I don't know what
you would do with a private army. And the last
two Dukes of Athol have both lived in South Africa,
but hey, he could have one if he wanted one.
There you go. Yeah, so I mean, no. You're doing
this is the the pay the bills job. This is what
we just we're talking about now the risk. It's
a balance both Wrestling and the job is it you
know kind of not stressful, but I mean does it
Affect a little bit. Oh, you know I mean it could
be a little bit off -putting If say on Sunday,
I'm getting ready for a match. I've got over
match. Okay No, we know what's going on this
at the other Oh, I need to make sure the schedule
is fixed for these people by Monday, by tomorrow
morning. And I've got to do this because, you
know, somebody's like this, they don't know when
to come to work. Right, right, right. So it can
pull me out of the mode a little bit. Right.
Mostly it's the, it's just the day -to -day stuff.
I just started working out with a private, not
private, but a personal trainer. Okay. Hybrid
45 in Brownsville. There you go. Big shout out
to them. So Marco is a great guy because I was
doing okay doing the weights by myself. But it's
not what I'm great at by any means and I don't
have the time to go do the research to make sure
I get the most out of it. Right. So I'm gonna
let Marco help me with that. But the goal is
at least at least three days a week where I'm
doing the weights because it's important. Right.
The number one thing you can do besides not do
something stupid to keep from getting hurt is
your flexibility. So I'll pull up a yoga video,
especially yin yoga on my computer, and I'll
do an hour of yoga as many days a week as I can.
Next best thing is to have muscles that aren't
going to tear, aren't going to give out under
you. So I've got to do the weights. And the older
you get, the even more important it is. So I
want to make sure also that if somebody's coming
in, they're paying that ticket to come out. I
want everything about the show to look good and
that has to include my body also. Even if I am
so blessed that I could do all the flippy and
neat stuff, but I don't look like an athlete,
I feel like I'd be ripping them off a little
bit. And I want to look good for Suzy. Not only
that, talk about flipping. Have you seen this
guy's intro? Have you seen the way he comes into
the ring? No, but I have. Every time. I have
a feeling you have. I have. I was watching a
replay, I think actually this past Sunday, the
way you, you flip in that ring. I don't know
how the hell you do this, but you just do this
top rope, flip forward, flip. Hand spring off
the rope, second hand spring and do a kneel.
Yes. How long did it take you to get that move
down? First of all, how did that even happen?
Did you just like trip? Did you trip and then
you just like recovered and held off some weight?
So when I was first getting into wrestling, I
was looking for like, what things can I do? What
things can I not do? And how can I dress anything
up to stick out a little bit? Because I knew
I was going to... be lacking a little bit because
I didn't have a regular trainer. It was going
to take me longer to get up to speed on that.
I also knew that I grew up watching, you know,
Mid -South and I was watching WWE. But then when
I saw the cruiserweights, when they introduced
the cruiserweights and loose doors and WCW, I'm
like, that is a significant difference. And it
is much more exciting to me. Right. It's more
interesting. Because if I'm big enough, I can
do a lot of those basic old school mid south
moves. Right. But there is a different level
of athleticism for those guys doing the lucha
stuff. Bro. So I started, you know, when I got
access to cable around that same time, there
was a CMLL and triple I didn't know what the
hell anybody was saying. I still can barely,
I cannot actually have a conversation in Spanish.
I can hear things and sometimes know what they're
talking about. I could not reciprocate. But I
would watch what they were doing. And then I
had to pick out again, because I wasn't working
with other guys trained to do that. What could
I do where I can tell the other guy, stand here,
be here. I will meet you with some part of my
body. So there was a limited stuff. I got to
learn a lot more about lucha in the last several
months Working here in the valley than I ever
got to do before right, right? So I was watching
and I don't remember who but I saw a dude do
the handspring He just did one handspring land
on his feet. I couldn't do that. I kept getting
too much momentum, right? It's like, okay since
I'm falling let me give into that and then a
second was like hell that's easy and Double flips
gotta be twice as good right and I just ran with
it Yeah, um, and then when I started here as
I was one of the things I was like on the list.
Can I still do this? And about the third or fourth
try it worked and I'm like sweet Yeah, because
when I when I saw that that uh entrance for the
first time on on facebook live Uh the first i'm
like this guy's trying to do a who and two uh
ring entry man who and two does a grabs one of
them does the whole flip forward you know and
everything so it is a uh what's the name a super
psycho and i believe red mystery does the same
thing sometimes but when i saw you do it i'm
like whoa whoa whoa wait a minute hold on he
went the extra extra mile to pretty much signature
yourself something that you know this is your
ring uh intro now is this every time you go into
the ring or this is just only on special no it's
uh that's my standard um Sometimes not every
ring is the same. If the ropes aren't tight,
I can't handspring off of it. It's got to give
me a push back or I just can't do it. I'll leave
that part out. I really like doing the handspring
against the rope and coming back, but it also
is one that just requires really tight ropes.
No, I was just going to say, was learning Lucha
part of what you came down to the Valley for
or was it just to add on to your repertoire kind
of thing? For work. The first time I came down
it was to run the behavior services department
for the Rio Grande State Supported Living Center
and then when I came back it was to run the clinic
here in Harlingen and then it opened up so that
I could run both clinics. Nice, okay. And I'm
pushing for us to be moving on opening a clinic
in Brownsville as well. I think we've got the
staff. Oh, there's definitely the need. So I
think we have the staff. So I asked the CEO last
time she was here in the valley last week. Hey,
I think it's time. Let's keep things moving.
Right, right. Nice. Yeah. So hopefully that comes
through for you. That'd be that'd be great. Helping
out the community more like that. So besides
hanging out with Susanna. Besides doing the wrestling,
besides doing the pay the bills job, what are
your hobbies? And making you do some merchandise.
And also making killer merchandise, by the way.
But what are your hobbies? What do you like to
do in your time off? I mean, a long time. A long,
just, besides sleep, relax. There is very little
left after that. I'll get on computer. I'll play
games a little bit. I tend to fixate on one game
at a time So I was playing Baldur's Gate three
a lot Now I play it a little bit when I have
a chance, right? I'll usually steal an hour every
day or two To play magic the gathering online.
Okay, okay, and that's it They're just so much
time spent with there with the rest of that stuff
when I was living in Florida, which is where
I was in between the two states here in the valley
right i was able to get hooked up at a local
card shop that also had like weekly weekly uh
dungeons and dragons games but it's one of those
games that like you know you've got to have a
good handful of hours at a time and by the time
you hit the gym a few days a week and then i
go to training i try at least two days a week
and those are normally three hour sessions That
one don't want the whole week and then on the
weekend. There's the shows And I got questions
coming from the beefy boy bro's big shout -outs
of the true be our next -door neighbors here
This is what type of wrestling is the toughest
to wrestle and what title are you going for?
For me, I think the toughest is lucha because
I haven't gotten as much training with it as
I would like The easiest for me would be porous.
Oh where it looks like an MMA fight, you know,
like the old stuff that Ken Shamrock did before
he went to the UFC, right? And the reason is
because I can just, we can basically just spar,
you know? So when I'm working with some guys,
I've had even a couple people mention, you know,
it's like, boy, it looks like you really hit
him with that kick. I'm like, of course I hit
him with the kick. You know, because I spent
years in karate, I mean, like, we're hitting
each other. So the sparring rules for the competitions
we did, the body, which is everything from the
groin to here is full contact, faces, kiss contact,
and the head is light contact. Right. But you're
doing that to somebody who's absolutely trying
not to get hits. You got to get your, you know,
your hands and your feet. They're really fast,
right? And then you got to control it enough
so that you don't knock out the guy. Because
then you lose on a DQ if you do. Right. So I'm
very comfortable kicking people in the face.
And I know that I'm not going to nail them more
than I mean to. But I got to practice that a
lot in a different type of setting. So porous,
though, would be great. But it's just a style
that. They don't do much in America. But when
I get to have a match that the point is to look
like we are not getting along well. We are showing
that high level of intensity. And I get to just
lock on. I get to just pound somebody in. I don't
necessarily have to worry about whether or not
it's pretty. The focus is on the intensity. It
looks like it's the hardest match, but it's the
easiest to do. That's something I would enjoy
to watch. And see me thinking that maybe the
Lucha side was going to be a little bit more,
because I don't think I understand it when I
say this. Lucha Lords kind of have to be religious
about their training because they really dedicate
their entire body to a move sometimes. And when
I say sometimes, I mean like most of the time,
you know, launching yourself off a rope, diving
into the ring, you know, just in every move.
But knowing that about Porzo, it's like, yeah,
I can kind of see where, you know, the two might
intersect a little bit. And we have another question
for you right here. It goes, can we see the demonstration
kick to choose face, please, to believe you,
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know they've been getting a lot of phone calls,
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here in Wessigold. Hearts go out to all the people
that got, you know, some bad water damage to
their homes, man. Hope sooner or later that gets
fixed up. I know I got a couple of buzz at work
that did suffer through that. And they are still
trying to... piece the puzzle together so they
can get back on their feet again. But hearts
go out to the man, hopefully they can get through
it. But give Triple J a call and they'll gladly
help you out. Remember, your crap is their bread
and butter. So we're coming back here and we
are back again. We just love saying that. I know,
it's so fun to say it. It's so fun. It's so fun
to say it. Because he made it up, that's right.
Yes, I did, I did. And it fits the bill. It fits
the bill. So we're back with Mr. C .Y .A. No,
no, no. First, let's block a seat, though. We
don't need that. I got another question here.
It goes from Frank the Tech, because I want to
see you kick Toxico in the face. OK, we're going
to get... I'm an introvert that comes in this
month, and I want to get down to this, dude.
I want to ask you, what the hell did Toxico do
to you, man? This is what I want to know. Is
C .Y .A. talking to this kid, man? Talk to us.
What's going on here, C .Y .A.? What is going
on the new breed that everybody wants his kids?
Number does he have a target in his face is back.
What's going on a little bit? I think it's a
smoke Really tried to have you had to try to
breathe through that stuff Comes out with those
little smoke grenades and dear god, man You got
poor Martin there. Martin just loves him to death,
and he's just treating Martin so bad. Just dogging
him and beating him down all the time. And Martin,
just like a puppy, he just doesn't understand
that the person kicking him is not his friend.
Right. Because the party wasn't here last week,
and they were just chatting out. They let them
in. By the way, I stepped in something walking
into the studio. It's the STDs. That's what I'm
afraid of. You should be afraid of me shooting.
I need to take my leg off now. By the way, I
disinfected everything that you're shooting on
right there, so you know. You're fine. You're
fine. But yeah, they've been going at this kid
left and right. For some reason, nobody likes
this kid, you know? I kind of feel bad for the
guy. I'm going to have to figure out, Taxco,
if you're watching, we're going to have to get
you on the podcast so you can set the record
straight on what's going on, you and the new
breed, man, because this is getting a little
crazy out here. And I got Hasito saying, choose
face needs a swift kick. Sweep the leg. Sweep
the leg. And we're saying here, Doxigo is tacky
and I hate him. This is Frank the Tank. And then
I got also coming back saying STDs will do to
a guy. Well, well, I'm not sure about that. I'll
pick the fifth. But anyways, we're a new breed.
You're coming in. Are you set? Every wrestler
that I've spoken with, they're always setting
a goal on where they want to be and where they
want to be at. I've already seen you, the first
time I saw you actually, is actually that street
fight y 'all had against Nightmare and Pete Payne.
Which, something I said that I told the fans
I was gonna talk about. You have your partner,
first of all. You get your ass beat, first of
all, and your partner disappears into the crowd.
At that point, I'm pretty sure you're looking
like where the hell's the help? Cause you're
getting the beat down. of a lifetime right now.
It's a little bit. Being around Mooncat is kind
of like being inside of a Lindy Toons cartoon.
So, you know, you expect anything. Right. Where'd
the roadrunner go? Where'd the roadrunner come
from? Why do I feel like Wiley Coyote? If you
go back and watch it, this match is gonna be
locked in my mind. It's one of those matches,
and I don't care who, you can fight me about
it. Cuz to see this up close and personal, I've
seen it only on wrestling on TV, WWE. And I'm
talking about Mick Foley getting tossed from
the top of the cage into a table by The Undertaker.
This was this close to being like that cuz at
this moment - you're getting your butt whoop
down there and you're holding your own by the
way and mooncat pulls a 10 -foot ladder climbs
a tree goes about at least 25 maybe 20 feet into
the air now take us through that point when you
see this kid up in that tree what is going through
your mind first of all Well, I didn't see where
he was until just before he jumped. I got drug
over there by Pete Payne. So I look up, I'm surrounded
by two huge masses of men. I look up and there's
a much smaller man. But he looks really small
way up there, right? So yeah, there was some
quick mental calculation. You know, that's 20
plus feet. Mean he's little but he's gotta weigh
150 to 170 pounds you accelerate 9 .8 meters
per second This is gonna suck And the impact
cuz I look I went back and watched a replay wait,
what happened? I watched a replay. I don't have
enough figures to count how many times I watched
it. I see Pete When he's coming down you can
see Pete was ready to receive the impact and
then he's like he did a Samoa Joe Nightmare was
like, okay, I got this and I see you like So
nightmare gets the foot I know you got a elbow
or a knee I think it was more of the thigh maybe
the high thigh I think is what I caught and a
fair chunk of that was across the forehead. Yes
And the problem was that, I know technically
the speed of acceleration, but there was so much
time for him to pick up so much speed that he
just got there faster than I expected. So ordinarily
it would be pull the head a little more out of
the way, take it across the chest, and then you've
got this crumple and roll kind of thing. And
it was just... It wasn't like time for crumpling
or rolling. It was going to the stage of gucci.
It was like an acne anvil falling from the heavens.
After the match is over, you guys won that match,
right? I forgot. No, no, no. Now I remember.
It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's
not your fault, dude. I mean, these guys are
massive. It was no one's fault. It was gravity's
fault. Gravity showed up and announced this thing.
After that, after that, and they continued to
beat you down. They took advantage of you guys
as you guys were on the ground. You get the party
boys come in. You got Poppy Felix come in and
also Frank the Tank come in to rescue the day,
so to say. At that point, when the match is over,
you're still getting speech down. What are you
saying? Like, OK, guys, what's going on? Yeah,
I mean, that's one of those times where you're
like, man, weight classes are sometimes a good
idea. So this is the two of us equal one of you.
There's a reason that the boxers and the MMA
guys. They're knocking around with guys within
about five pounds of them. It makes a real significant
difference. This is why you look sweet, because
you will never see Mayweather fight Mike Tyson.
Yeah, because if you've got a weapon, the speed
wins. But when you're talking about blunt objects
and bodies, man, if I hit you five times, you
hit me once. But you're hitting me like a Mack
truck, and I'm a Volkswagen. My five hits didn't
do as much as I hoped. All of a sudden, all that
math just doesn't matter anymore. So after they
come in and you guys go out, what is the discussion
between you and Mooncat afterwards? I mean, what
the hell were you thinking when you woke up there?
I want to know the backstory of that. What happened
after that? Well, I mean, there's not really
a lot of discussion you can have. We're talking
about a guy that straps fake explosives to unicorns.
And he just kind of do stuff. Sometimes the stuff
is really great. Sometimes it's highly questionable.
And this is why Jacinto put up here, because
we would like to see Eugene versus Mooncat. I
think that could be a good match. I think, yeah.
I think he can hold his own. I think, yeah. How
you gonna get Mooncat in the ring? You got anything
shiny to draw him in with? An angler? I don't
know. Put like one of those cat things in there.
That don't get his attention. Yeah, but... You
mean shine a light on the floor? Maybe a little
laser. He's almost there! He's almost in! Alright,
go, go! And then he goes, the ad -hole can take
any pounding. Okay, there you go. I don't know
where that's going with that. He said, his moon
cat jumped off the freaking tree. He really can't
speak much. He's from another planet. This is
true. It's true. A psychedelic dream match. Wow.
Wow. We're going there. We're going there, Frank.
Never leave it to a party guy to say psychedelic
dream match. Some mushrooms on a pole. I didn't
say it. I didn't say it. I did not say it. But
that would be awesome. Your career so far in
New Breed, how do you put it in full perspective
right now? I mean, as far as that? Whatever opportunities
pop up, I'm going to take them. By nature, I
have some anxiety issues. A lot of my decisions,
I have to do an extra level of thinking. If I
wasn't scared, would I do this? Take away the
fact that I feel scared. If I was just looking
at it on the merits, would I do this? Public
speaking, terrifying. Scared of heights. You're
doing it right now. Exactly. So when I stand
on the top turnbuckle looking into the ring,
it's a little uncomfortable, but it's doable.
If I look to the outside, like this is, this
is really high. I cannot get up there and think
about it at all. But that and especially anything
with my other professional life, is it important
or not? If it's important, it just doesn't matter.
So I've spoken at professional conferences and
for the first several times I had to take anxiety
meds for me to do that. Like abuse bar on a daily
basis. I don't know, something with a C. Something
like real public speaking. But on a day -to -day
basis, when I was doing that job that had me
doing that, I also had to go out to police departments,
do a lot of crisis intervention stuff, helping
them develop programs for working with people
with developmental disabilities. And I hate being
in charge of stuff. And I'm in charge of a lot
of people right now. And the reason it breaks
down to the first time I was ever put in charge
of something, when I was in the National Guard,
they're like, we want to send you to PLDC and
make you a sergeant. I don't want to get here.
I don't want to get here an hour early and be
in charge of these knuckleheads. And they brought
me over to the window, open the blinds, and go,
all right, if we get shipped out somewhere, somebody's
going to be in charge. Which one of these guys?
do you want us to put in charge instead of you?
And I was like, well, shit. I guess I'll go.
And that's been my experience with leadership.
I've seen people that were great at what they
did, and they loved what they did, decide they
didn't want to have anything to do with it anymore
because they had bad leaders and bad managers.
I don't want to be in charge of stuff, but I
have no right to complain that people aren't
being good leaders if I'm not trying to be that
good leader. And the way that relates for me
in wrestling is I will take every opportunity
that comes up. If I have an opportunity to hold
a title, I will hold it with pride and I will
do the best job possible in showing what's great
about that promotion and that title. And if the
thing that I need to do to do the best for wrestling
in general for a promotion is to help other guys,
probably significantly younger, look good. Develop
their skills. I'll be super proud to do that.
Also. Okay. All right. I got you. I got you.
Good answer. Good answer. Um, by the way, that,
uh, that whole thing of, well, you pick the guy
that you want to be in charge. That's, that's
more of a threat. That's exactly what that was.
That's more of a threat. See that guy eating
soap? He's a, he's a general master. Good luck.
Yeah. Good luck. He's the guy eating the crayons.
Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's the master. We're going
to put him in the back lines. Oh, my gosh. What
he does, you do right now. No, no kidding, man.
No kidding. As far as I was going to say something
that I lost track of, I was going to say, oh,
yeah. Oh, gosh. It was a beauty about live Facebook,
man. When you've got a question in your mind,
you're like, OK, this is the next question I'm
going to ask, and it just goes away. Greatest
moment in the ring so far. besides catching Mooncat
from fighting someone? Really, the greatest moment
for me personally, I was doing a match with Byron
Wilcott, when he was working as the Angel of
Sin, and he was giving me the feedback in the
moment, in the match, and he looked over and
he looked really satisfied. He was trained by
Dr. Death, and then Dr. Death's throat cancer
came back, and then he went on to train with
Rodney Mack and Jazz. He was super well trained,
very, very professional, very serious about what
he did. And he had spent a lot of time, at that
point he hadn't spent a lot of time with me.
He had spent a little bit of time working with
me, and he was satisfied with the work I was
doing in that match. And I was like, I am not
a chump. I am not an embarrassment to this really...
That was the biggest thing for me, and it wasn't
any really big moves or nothing. It was kind
of the totality of that match where we're making
it look convincing. And I'm all about 175 pounds,
and he's like 260 and 64. He was giving me what
I was needing and I was putting stuff back so
that we were making a convincing match despite
almost a hundred pounds difference. Right, right,
right. And that was great. So every time I see
like Nikki Fuego in a match with a guy and she's
making it look convincing, that is hard for a
lady to do. Right. She's got to put more, if
there was a guy the same size as her. she has
to give more and be sharper than that guy would
be. And she can do it often. So I'm reminded
of it every time I see her do it. And the funny
thing you say that because you can't see the
comments that I'm tossing up there. I'm going
to give you one right here. This is from that
right there. So you can read that out loud if
you like. This is, Adho has helped Nikki get
over a few of her fears during training. So good
leader in my opinion. That's straight from Hasido
Rivera, man. That's a duo, man. It's those kind
of comments that make you like, hey, man, wipe
that little bit of dirt right there, you know,
scrub it off. Yeah, damn right. And that's good
to hear because it means not only that you're
doing your thing, you're inspiring other people
to say, hey, if he told me I can do it, then
I could probably do it. Just got to get over
that fear of doing it. And you're right, she's
gone through a lot of matches. For some reason,
Nikki Fuego has come, literally here in this
podcast, where wrestlers come in, has been mentioned
so many times. It's crazy, you're like, wow.
I've mentioned quite a few wrestlers here in
the pod with different athletes that come in,
but her name pops up everywhere, man. And it's
interesting, like, wow. She has the perfect attitude.
She is also somebody, like, I ran through, like,
I'm doing like three or four things, and it's
keeping me very busy. She's got orchestra, ROTC,
her academics that she's doing in school, the
wrestling, and she's not just doing all that.
She's doing all of that stuff really well. And
every opportunity where she gets to have the
ear of somebody or she has the opportunity to
hear from somebody, she is always soaking it
up, always looking for it. And if you've got
that kind of attitude and you're willing to put
in the work and then afterwards you're like how
did it go and you take that feedback in you take
it honestly you're awesome and Nikki is always
a hundred percent right on doing that right so
not only is she a talent in the ring but that
that evokes people to want to share right you've
got somebody with you've got these guys in the
valley that have a lot of experience and they
have experience doing multiple styles and when
you've got somebody you're not just like because
you'll occasionally do that when you're the older
guy you've got some experience you want to share
it and you see that they don't give a shit about
what you're saying right or let it flow off like
no no no you know okay guy you but I've got this
special other thing I'm just different right
and then you don't want to share So when you
get somebody like Nikki that is absolutely listening
and then when you you go over something a couple
times maybe in practice or prepping for something
and then you get to see her executed in the ring
now you absolutely know she was listening right
right and that just makes you want to go hey
I had another idea I saw how you do this and
I think these are some things you can put on
with it if you'd like and you know that she's
going to take that under advisement right Doesn't
mean she's gonna do it because I can't I think
just add an extra spin to something that's fucking
awesome. I Think that's great. But not everybody
wants to add a spin to everything, right? Right,
but but you give her the options like hey if
you want to you could do this if you want to
you could do that and you can give her these
different branches where a move or a set of moves
can become something different right then you
see her execute and pick which one of those branches
she likes That's beautiful and it makes you want
to share more. Right. Yeah. That's good. That's
awesome. That's a note. I mean that, I mean,
like, like you said before, there's so many exactly
there's some people that are out there like,
well, yeah, okay, you know, I've got my certain
style. I'm never going to share what I can do.
I mean, that maybe can help you along the way,
you know, but I've so far, like I said, the residents
that we've talked to, that I've had in the pod,
they're always willing to share with her, man.
Because, hey, you know, they see something in
her that's something special. So I'm like, wow,
I just hope, you know, it pushes her up above
and beyond where she wants to be. You know, it's
been so young, too, man. And the future is wide
open for her, man, to decide what she wants to
do. So worst match. I'm putting a spot here.
Worst match ever. Worst match ever. A guy whose
name I absolutely can't remember. In a town whose
name I also can remember, but somewhere in Louisiana.
There was a guy that I hadn't met before, you
know, we went over, you know, what was supposed
to happen. We get, you know, not very far, maybe
five, six moves in deep telling dude, you've
got to freaking hit me, man. Two more moves.
You don't get to do anything else. And it was
a squash match after that. You know, I like to
think, I hope. that I dressed it up so that it
was still at least a little entertaining for
the audience, but we didn't get to have a back
and forth. He just wasn't... He wasn't properly
trained. Or at the very least, the training all
went away when he got in front of a crowd. So
he just wasn't executing. And one of the things
that I like to... tell people is I'd rather ask
you to lighten up than to have to tell you to
hit me. Because if you're not giving me something,
then we both look bad if I do anything other
than shrug it off and whoop up on you. So that's
what that match turned out to be. I felt like
I was roughing him up afterwards, you know, just
a real quick conversation. Like, hey, man, this
was why it happened. That way, you know, because
of what? No, you couldn't talk about it, right?
Right, right, right. I just got to mention is
like, you don't get anything else. And then I
just beat on him for the next five. And then
afterwards, I told him this was why this makes
you we all look better doing it this way than
the other way. And then we got to spend a little
time together. you know going over like this
is how it could have been different and this
is how you can simplify things until you are
able to make it more complicated right but that
was the worst because you know what i think it
was the worst because i wasn't comfortable doing
that to another person yet okay okay because
i will totally do that to somebody now and i
won't feel bad about it right right right but
at the time it was the first time that i had
been the more experienced person and the other
guy just could not carry it okay i get you i
didn't like the way that felt at the time right
Oh, there you go. Toughest match. Toughest? It
was when I got hit in the kidney because I thought
it was a snapmare and a boot to the back. He
caught me in the kidney. It was the first time
I'd ever, not the kidney, but the liver. And
that was the first time I'd ever taken a liver
shot. And somewhere there's a tape of it, if
my eggs hadn't destroyed it. You just see my
hands kind of shrivel up and I just... Slowly
fall to my side And he's like rah rah rah he
comes over he picks me up on my head and you
see there's just no muscle tone in my legs So
when he lets go of me, I just collapse And I'm
just I'm just begging him to pin me to me pin
me pin me pin me And then I think at that point
it kind of clicks what happened Oh, we still
we got to do the finish. So he picks me up sets
me on the top turnbuckle Super plex. Oh my god.
You're like a little um, you know, so we kind
of over roll and right pulling back into the
pin So we did that I was able to move a little
bit by then It was about a minute long to get
there and I could start moving but it took about
six hours for me to quit hurting I couldn't move
and after that whenever I saw someone in the
UFC take a liver shot and they're just like There's
nothing you can do about it. Get up, you wuss.
Oh my gosh. There's nothing you can do. It doesn't
matter what that person does. Your body just
shuts down. All of those toxins get kicked back
into your body. And your body says, I guess I'm
dead now. OK, it's time to leave. It's time to
go. That's pretty much a universal thing. It's
time to go. Yeah, it's a universal thing. I know
you will be always asking this question. I'm
going to ask you right now. You're Mount Rushmore,
arrestors. Other than the to preface and say
that uh, I have no such qualifications to pick
them I'll just pick I'll just take the ones that
they're personal for me. So when I was a kid
junkyard dog, yeah Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Yeah,
those were the just the the regular working guy
kind of level guys that That I watched and my
dad latched on to right Jake the snake pretty
much behind that Wow And then you get into the
WCW days, the impression that Ramis J of Junior
made, right? People always lie about how big
you are, how old you are, and all this stuff.
But he was a kid, and he was super small, and
he was in there doing it with those guys. And
that level of athleticism was incredible to me.
And it still is, even now that I've... been exposed
to the wider world of Lucha Libre and still just
incredible athleticism. Right. To pick a fifth.
Forget Hasidus coming after you. I told you to
block it. Terrible human being, but combination
of how he got how he worked stuff where people
just used him as a mascot. Hulk Hogan, you know,
got a lot of mainstream stuff. Yeah. Going for
it. Right. So yeah, you got to include him somewhere
on there. Right. The way he got, you know, he
also killed a lot of promotions, but if he hadn't
done the stuff to kill the promotions, the first
part of his, you know, career take off. Yeah.
So when he'd get in there and give it a boost
and then. And I relate to it. When I was doing
those little shows myself, there was an older
guy that had experience with wrestling. And I'm
like, OK, well, you know what's going on. And
he was doing stuff to put himself over the expense
of everybody else. Right. And that ended up killing
the shows in that little town I was in. Yeah.
I hear you. And I got Hasido asking, forget the
kick. Forget the face. June needs a kick to the
kidney, please. First of all. What'd you do to
him? I was born, that's what I do to the sheep.
Alright, first of all, I'm gonna die out so sorry.
Joke's on you. Joke's on you. Turn off the show.
Turn off the show, no shit, right? Last but not
least, man, before we're 59 minutes into the
podcast, El Chupa Cabra. I don't know, here's
what Carl Rodriguez is putting on there. El Chupacabra.
Okay. That was my original wrestling character.
There you go. Okay. And I loved it. Newsley wore
a snake skin pattern singlet. There you go. Where
I was wrestling, no one knew Lucho Libre, so
I wore an Averno mask, different versions of
that, because there was no place that I knew
to get a custom mask made. Okay. So I did that.
Internet, send us a picture internet. Yeah, we
need to send us a picture so we can put that
up. Yeah, I've still got a couple, like I had
a little, you know, before I buy smartphones,
I had little, I don't know, five by sevens that
I would sign. I've still got a couple of those.
Oh, okay. Send us a picture of that. I'll put
that up on this in particular skit so we can
throw it on the people to see. No, I was going
to ask you now a question I want to ask you.
Through now that the years have gone by you through
and through what do you want to be remembered
by? Um, it's gonna be little things just little
things for different people Most of the things
that I've done they're gonna really be useful
people aren't even gonna remember my name There
was that guy that worked with me when I was a
kid back when I did my counseling And I and that
really helped with this out of the other they're
gonna remember that their kid went to Therapy
for a while they improve their skills, but they're
gonna forget the names of most of the therapists
and stuff and that's fine Because even if I mean
unless you are doing something incredible amazing
or Incredibly horrible. No one remembers your
name after a hundred years. Even your own family
is gonna forget You're just gonna be great great
grandpa, whatever there and there's gonna be
a neat story, but they're not even gonna remember
your name Well, first and foremost, we want to
say thank you so much for coming to the podcast.
We're an hour and a minute in already. Thank
you for coming to the podcast, man. Any social
media? Social media, yes, please. That you want
to plug? Just my Instagram, which I barely know
how to work. At Mr. Athol. No E on that one because
apparently someone took the Athol with an E.
What? Wow. I don't believe it. Wow, why not?
Small world. It's a real Scottish name. It's
just an unfortunate one, you know for most people
I'm sure She's putting out something here one
more things that they will remember in a crazy
And they invite her to the podcast. We invite
her in here. We have questions. We have lots
of questions. No, but first I want to say thank
you again, man, for coming out and having a little
fun with us, talking a little bit, a little behind
the scenes story of who you are, where you came
from, where you grew up, and how you got into
the wrestling game. Do you have these weighted
stuff to unicorns for sale? I don't, but Target
does. Target, okay. Yes. The day of the incident
with Mooncat, I had an idea given the folks in
the match. I'd seen Johnny Bay the week before
with a slow motion run. And I knew Mooncat. I'm
like, I've got an idea. And so we went with that.
So I needed a Eugene. So I did some looking and
found him at Target. So Target carries the pillow
fort. Weighted guys. It's a weighted one, okay.
I like the fact it's a unicorn, bro. That's with
this little guy right here in the front. Unicorns
are the national animal of Scotland. There you
go. There you go, man. Oh, okay. Man, I'm learning
so much Scottish history, man. That's why they
can't be found. That's what they are. That's
what they are. If you're looking for his... in
my social media, just go to my space. No, once
again, thank you so much for coming to the pod,
man. Come back anytime. Anytime you want to come
by and promote some more stuff or some more stuff
that's going on happening for the spectrum or
anything in your job. Even if you want to come
in and talk about, bring some people from your
job that want to talk about this, our doors are
always open to you. Absolutely. Or if you just
want to hang out in our cool new studio, as soon
as we clean it up, party boys. There is actually,
there's a webinar that I'll be doing at on Wednesday
of next week. I believe it starts at five 30,
but for one of the local health systems. I don't
remember. I didn't write it down, but there's
a webinar that they'll be doing and I'll be hosting
that for autism next week. Send us the link and
we will upload it in our tuning podcast, our
Facebook page, our Instagram that way people
can tune in and check that out. Cause it's good
to have. stuff like that so people can be informed.
And it's a great way to, inclusion, that's the
word, inclusion, that's the main word. Awareness
is nice, but acceptance and including people
is a world of difference. Absolutely, yeah. Stuff
like the... that you got a prom or something
and it's just too much noise. Right. Can you
have a balcony that's also decorated and as nice
as the inside, but the volume is going to be
lower. Right. And then the students with autism
can be there and not be overstimulated and still
completely participate. Right. That's a lot better
than just being aware. And it's like I told my
son, he tells me that in my autism, no, you're
not, you're authentic. You're authentic, my friend.
My son, my beautiful son. Like I said, once again,
thank you so much, man. I appreciate you. Keep
doing what you're doing. Door's always open.
Hit us up with that link, so make sure we go
ahead and post it on our Facebook page. That
way, everybody can go on. I still got people
for adding on here. I got Carla Rodriguez saying,
we love you, G. And then we got Jacinto saying,
Eugene is now more. over than all the other folks
in the locker room. He got a chant the second
time he came out. Really? They were chanting
for Eugene. There you go. Just don't go out there
and do Al Snow and do this to a fan. Please don't
do that. For what the hell are you doing? That
thing could talk. Don't do that to me! Oh, Eugene.
Oh my god. You must have a lot of stories, Eugene.
We have to have you on the podcast. What is this?
Oh, here you go. That one's for you. That one's
for you, I'll leave that one for you. Like I
said, thank you so much, man. You're welcome
back anytime and keep doing what you're doing
and God bless you, bro. You're doing great things
out there. Thank you so much, man. Thank you.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, that is our
podcast for today. Next week, if everything goes
according to plan for next week, and the podcast
gods just smile at us next Thursday on the 17th
of April. It's going to be a blowback. It's not
going to go well. Shut up! What? We have Pete
Capella for a second time, hopefully on Internet's
Working, voice actor for Silver Sonic from the
Sonic series. I can't believe he returned our
calls, dude. I know, dude. I can't believe it.
Oh, he might be wearing a... He might. There's
a might. He might be wearing our cap and our
merch. for the podcast. All I know is that he
has, he'll be in El Paso this weekend signing
autographs in El Paso. Hopefully he's wearing
our merch there. But thank you so much. I'm being
shipped via UPS to El Paso to verify this stuff
right now. Not only that guys, a big humongous
shout out to this past Saturday when you go see
the greatest band in the earth. Smallest, biggest
bang in the world. Mini Kiss was here last Saturday.
I went with Beaky Boy Row. It was awesome. I
took a picture with little Peter, Chris, and
little Gene Simmons. And I gave him a Chewy New
Podcast cap, and he worked for the rest of the
night taking pictures. So thank you so much.
A big shout out to those guys. They're awesome.
They're awesome. Guys, if you missed it, I think,
crossing my fingers, he'll be back in the summer
for the Summer Bash. I'm hoping. But they're
on tour right now. They're a mini tour. No planet
in it. Yeah, it was a great concert. Big shout
out to them. Thank you so much for the entertainment
that we had down here. Great, great response.
And the actual wrestling that day also. Beforehand,
it was like around five o 'clock, five o 'clock
in the afternoon. Around there. It was awesome.
That was awesome, too. But Jacinto's still kicking
it. Hey, choose kick. No, choose not taking a
kick. You think he's getting a kick enough going
up the stairs and downstairs, there's no elevator.
So don't worry. I'll push him down in the entertainment.
Just make sure you subscribe to our podcast.
That's a way to kick off our podcast. Subscribe
to our podcast. It's only $1 .99 a month. You
might get that video where I just push him off
the edge so we can see. Now you can see. Let's
take a bit. Let's see how many times he bounces
all the way down. I'm saying six. Challenge accepted.
Let's go. End of show. End of show. Guys, thank
you once again for watching. We'll see you next
week at 730 with Pete Capella, Super Sonic on
the podcast. And you guys wish you. Dead silence,
that sounds good. That's up with you. I see that
we will see you next week. Silence out. I'm in
chill. And I know we will see you next week.
Latest, greatest. Peace out. Bye, everybody.