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I want to jump on it right away. It's going to

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be a great show. If you know wingman, you have

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a wingman, right? In the history of wingman.

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In the history of wingman. You got Batman and

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Robin. All right. You got your - You got Goose

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and Marek. Goose and Marek. Yes. Goose and Marek.

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You got Goose and Marek. Who else did we see?

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Oh, we got Opie and Jax from the great show of

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Sons of America. Yes. And then you got two guys

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that are hardcore brothers to the end. You know,

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literally to the end. You got - Marcus Phoenix.

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And you got Dom Santiago. And what better way

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to get the podcast going, guys, to have the man

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himself, Carlos Farrow, in the podcast, baby?

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What is going on? Thanks, guys. I guess I got

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to get it out of the way, because you guys set

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me up so beautifully. So, bitches! Funny when

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you guys were naming great brothers and homies

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to the end you guys are like maverick and goose

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I'm like, that's a really really good one really

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relevant to today's fun. Well, if you notice

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the majority of those women I mentioned died

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How you been brother I'm house you were talking

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about the weather it is hottest balls over there

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I believe Yeah, yeah I could be like no man.

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It's kind of like LA bullshit. It's too fucking

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hot. I Was in I was in Palm Springs this last

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weekend and You know, we're indoors so it shouldn't

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really affect us But and I've been to Palm Springs

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before so it's a desert you gotta kind of expect

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it to be hot but it was like eight in the morning

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or nine in the morning when I'm arriving in the

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driver gets me there and it's some 114 Wow. Wow.

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It's 8 .30 in the morning. Yeah. Wow. And it

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was only going to get hotter. So come on, man.

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We're melting over here. Jesus. Man, dude. It's

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hot. So let's start from the beginning, Carlos.

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Tell us, I mean, where you're from, where you

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grew up, and how we got to become the voice of

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the great Dom Santiago, man. Take us away. Take

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it away. I was born and raised in San Francisco,

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California. It was pretty the way to get to where

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I am now or to do what I do now Was pretty different

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because it was so long ago and that's just a

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fact I mean if you look at IMDB or you look at

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other stuff I've done I've been at this for a

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while, but I started just pretty traditional

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with you know studying coming up and you know

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Doing you know regional theater and and being

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a kind of a theater guy and making a living and

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this is the this is the Cliff Notes really, I

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mean, nobody knows what Cliff Notes is anymore.

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But the abbreviated version is that, you know,

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when things start to happen, when you start,

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you know, being on TV shows, you know, people,

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you know, notice it's, it's one of the old like

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sayings in show businesses. The most important

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thing is to be seen, to be, to, you know, so

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putting yourself out there is key. And I was

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really fortunate that I came up right at the

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tail end of, of only like five networks. And,

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you know, Good things happen when you pilot the

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Enterprise, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know.

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Actually, he's part of the Star Trek cast also.

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So by the time that these new consoles... Yeah,

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this is awesome, guys. I've never told this story

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so succinctly, so thank you for the opportunity.

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So we ended up... being involved in cartoons

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and anime dubs exactly and I mean exactly at

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the time when they were coming up and I was well

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aware of PlayStation 2 and Nintendo and I mean

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everything every console there's ever been Sega

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Genesis and on and on but all of a sudden there

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was this new this new generation, literally and

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metaphorically, of the original Xbox and PlayStation

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2 was up in its game. And by the time we were

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at Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, I was already

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like a veteran because I worked on all these

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games while I was working in TV, you know, on

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camera and things like that. And you just never

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know what's going to what's going to work like

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they ask. They ask actors all the time. They're

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like, did you know that Gears was going to be

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this big? Absolutely not. In fact, all there

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was was doubt back in 2006, 2007. And as you

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can imagine, I know the story better than probably

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anybody besides the developers that were there

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at the time. I was there every step of the way.

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And to answer your question even more directly,

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since I tightened that whole story up, is I...

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I was the first of the cast that we've had for

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five games. I was the person that has been involved

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the longest. Wow. And that's kind of a fun trivia

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thing because you think, what about the rest

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of the squad? What about all those sorts of things?

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Well, the reality is that when I... was trying

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to book the job. The game had a different name.

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For the people that don't know the story, it's

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kind of fun. Originally, this was going to be

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an Unreal Tournament game. Oh, yeah. I mean,

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you think of the aesthetic, you think of the

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company, and it just makes sense. I believe at

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first it was Unreal Warfare. Then when I started

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auditioning and all that stuff and booked the

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job. So now I got cast in this game called Warfare.

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And so I'm in this game, Warfare, and it had

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a team and a squad that I never met them. We

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never got that far. But I know that all of a

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sudden, everybody got fired but me. I mean, essentially,

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that's what it boils down to. And I'm grateful.

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And I'm grateful not just for keeping the gig,

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obviously. But the reason was really great. And

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that was that the team at Epic and Cliff and

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Rod and everybody, they seemed to kind of agree

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with my choices. Because Cliff Bozinski said

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this every now and again, that the people that

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were playing Latinos or anything that might be

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Latino that has a name like Garcia or Gomez or

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whatever, they pretty much all sounded like a

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knockoff cheech. You know what I mean? So that's

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kind of what people expected, what they wanted.

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I didn't approach it that way. And I think that's

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what kind of, I'm speculating now, but I like

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to think that that's what kept me in the mix

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because there was alternate takes somewhere out

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there in the universe. There are takes where

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it was like, why don't you make it more urban?

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You know what I mean? And, you know, you guys

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are in the RGV, you know, which has become sort

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of almost a second home to me. And I got to tell

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you, you guys understand what they mean when

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they're saying that. So everything went from

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being like, you know, military banter and sort

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of, you know, what's that? And helping the player

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along to like, Marcus, what's up? Hey, what's

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going on? Why are they coming in here? No, so

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so so when I I had a real handle on who I thought

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Dom was from the very beginning the more story

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they gave me the more Notes and the more lore

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that I that I was getting given You know, man,

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you just you know, this guy's not And I'm not

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trivializing, it's just a fact. This guy's not

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just the guy from the neighborhood. He's not.

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He comes from a military family. And, you know,

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enough for nothing, man. I mean, I think I can

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do this in 2024. I can say that from back then

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to now, not only do I know the guy, but I've

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pretty much been validated and justified that

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me being that bitch, you know, the guy that asked

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for detail. And then he's always going, he wouldn't

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say that. I mean, that's exactly what was going

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on. I was like, why would he say that here? He

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wouldn't do that. His objectives and why he's

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fighting, all of that stuff is not the obvious.

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It's not what you guys think. I've done my research.

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By the time we got to books and comics and all

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that, now we're all working together. We're all

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collaborating. So now we're up to like Gears

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2 and Gears 3. I think I've been proven right

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that this guy was not that voice, that pretty...

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Almost dismissive, to be really fair. There are

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characters of all kinds of ethnicities and races

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that you get set up for stuff, you know what

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I mean? Like in storytelling, it sounds like

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a joke, but you always know in the horror movie

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who's going to die first. trying to deconstruct

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that, you know what I mean? And that's good.

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And that's sort of my thing is that I was like,

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this guy's not just that. He's not just the what

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is that guy and incoming, you know what I mean?

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This guy, every word, because like I said, I

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am that bitch. I wanted every word to belong

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to Dom. And here's trivia, and again, it'll finish

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my answer to this crazy speech about Dom, is

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that every actor in the squad got to say, sup,

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bitches, okay? Every single one. But it became

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mine because I just knew how he would say it.

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And I don't think that that was the case with

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every one of my squad mates. I think that they

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were doing what is, you know, it's pretty obvious.

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It's just, you know, a trash talk, you know?

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But to me, it was... it almost had an air of

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this the spicy flavor of my sub bitches is that

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it's vindictive yeah it's it's it's um it's about

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something it's not just like you know shit yeah

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it's kind of shit yeah yeah yeah but but the

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sub bitches is very in your face yes you're the

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enemy and uh and you killed my brother you killed

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my family you this is it's one of those moments

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where dom has a bit of release and not just,

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you know, crying. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, consider

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the fact at the time where Xbox was flowing with,

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I mean, I'm going to bring this up. It was flowing

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with Halo for so long. Halo was doing great.

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Then all of a sudden it happened to where Bungie

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just said, you know what, we're just going to,

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we're done with this. And 343 Studios said, you

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know, we'll take it. And they literally milked

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it. To me, I think they just milked it. So we

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needed something fresh. And when Gears came along,

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I go, well, you know, let's give me my buddy

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of mine said, let's give it a try. We fell in

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love with it real quick. All the characters,

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every character was like genuine. Yeah. And it

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was an awesome story. That's when the recasting

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really made a difference. Like I said, I never

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met the original cats, but my guys, I mean, we

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we've all been at it together for so long. But

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like we we've always had the. The great fortune

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because it is rare in show business in anything

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any TV show cartoon doesn't matter It's rare

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for like the two leads or the two You know your

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your player one player to your co -op guys. It's

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very rare for them to record together because

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Technically speaking it's it you get you guys

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work in sound right cleaner audio I mean, I saw

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you guys very responsibly muting my mic, you

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know Yeah, putting your guys off when I'm talking

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all those things come into play to the hundred

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degree in a in a property and Thing a project

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like this and so me and we have the great and

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it shows man I know it shows because I I play

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the games me and John DeMaggio who plays Marcus

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Yeah, we we work together when when when there's

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a scene when mark with Marcus and Dom we're in

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the booth together and that is by now by 2024

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standards it's completely unheard of because

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they can clean it up they can overlap us they

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can make they can get choices and create a conversation

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right seems like we're in the same room but they've

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been very smart i think because john and i have

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been friends for over 20 years we've we've had

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uh We've played we played cop one and cop two

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on spawn the animated series. Oh There's an anime

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there's an anime on YouTube called gogo 13 Queen

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B. It's for free. You can see it it's it's uh,

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it's from the late 90s and He's gogo 13. That's

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James Bond assassin in this in this anime. That's

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very adult dirty is all So there's this cartoon

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out there that it's Marcus versus Dom. And it's

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cool. It's really awesome. But what that brings

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to what I was saying is that he and I have a

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shorthand. We have a chemistry that really, every

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game, every scene, every Maria scene, every Gears

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3 scene, everything I think is kind of a little

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better because we play off each other. And all

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these improvisations, John's Master at what he

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does and he really is really good. And I tend

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to think I'm okay, too And when we start fooling

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around in the booth There's stuff that I could

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tell you man, like I'll give you a couple, you

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know, how who wants toast and all that? Yes,

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that's John just improvising. That's we have

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We have this new we have this new this news.

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It was called the net not natural. It's uh, the

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Whatever the torch is, you know when we finally

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got a flamethrower. Yeah The flip but it has

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a name I know what you're talking about He came

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up with who wants toast and My favorite and and

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again since we're going down trivia lane with

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Dom here If you guys don't mind if you'll indulge

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me We were in the booth together and we they

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hadn't they had they usually have drawings or

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concept art for the monsters The new monsters

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the old monsters any changes to gear to to you

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know, when they say these frags are different

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They're like this we tend to be able to see them,

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you know, so um, they they had these new I don't

00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:16.820
know I don't remember right now if it was there.

00:16:16.980 --> 00:16:21.389
I think it was the wretches but in the script.

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They didn't have no pictures. So they just said

00:16:23.529 --> 00:16:26.110
we were reading along together doing the lines.

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And we both at the same time saw that it says

00:16:29.370 --> 00:16:33.129
a bunch of creatures approach their feet and

00:16:33.129 --> 00:16:38.509
they are monkey like dogs. And then it says these

00:16:38.509 --> 00:16:42.490
monkey dogs approach Dom. And it said monkey

00:16:42.490 --> 00:16:46.649
dog like twice. And John started going monkey

00:16:46.649 --> 00:16:52.830
dog, monkey dog. That's the monkey dog. And I

00:16:52.830 --> 00:16:56.269
couldn't fucking resist, right? So now that we're

00:16:56.269 --> 00:17:04.529
rolling, I was like, Marcus, monkey dog. And

00:17:04.529 --> 00:17:10.490
he started going, the monkey dog. And we just

00:17:10.490 --> 00:17:13.650
kept saying monkey dog. And with things like

00:17:13.650 --> 00:17:16.609
that, you know, it was funny the first five times

00:17:16.609 --> 00:17:19.950
we did it. Right. After the fifth time, Nobody's

00:17:19.950 --> 00:17:23.589
laughing anymore, but we're like hysterical and

00:17:23.589 --> 00:17:25.329
everybody else is like fucking hilarious. Can

00:17:25.329 --> 00:17:37.150
we keep going? I had a question for the question.

00:17:37.349 --> 00:17:39.529
I've been in the bank for a while. I'm pretty

00:17:39.529 --> 00:17:41.369
sure you've gotten asked this question quite

00:17:41.369 --> 00:17:47.329
a few times when you get the scripts and to do

00:17:47.329 --> 00:17:51.420
the role plays on the game. The scene where you

00:17:51.420 --> 00:17:55.420
find Dom finds his wife I mean when you read

00:17:55.420 --> 00:17:58.680
that how do you prepare yourself for that in?

00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:04.180
particular scene I Appreciate the question and

00:18:04.180 --> 00:18:06.559
I and I I understand it now. I'm sweating you

00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:20.690
guys give me a second I'll tell you the story,

00:18:20.910 --> 00:18:22.849
and I'll try. I've told the story before, but

00:18:22.849 --> 00:18:25.730
I'll try for you and your viewers. I'll try to

00:18:25.730 --> 00:18:28.769
give you a little more detail, a little bit more

00:18:28.769 --> 00:18:34.430
spin on what was happening. So unlike other games,

00:18:35.190 --> 00:18:37.529
Gears of War is a very special property. There's

00:18:37.529 --> 00:18:39.470
no two ways about it. If you think about all

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the games, I've been really fortunate to work

00:18:41.809 --> 00:18:46.049
in so many. Met marquee properties. I mean, I'm

00:18:46.049 --> 00:18:48.910
still working with Assassin's Creed. I'm still

00:18:48.910 --> 00:18:51.250
working with Saints Row I'm still working with

00:18:51.250 --> 00:18:54.750
payday I'm still I can go down the line so many

00:18:54.750 --> 00:18:58.390
cool ass properties that are on game 3 game 5

00:18:58.390 --> 00:19:02.869
game 13 so I am I've seen a lot of the process

00:19:02.869 --> 00:19:05.730
from back in that from like, you know now it's

00:19:05.730 --> 00:19:09.150
called the og phase and and and now currently

00:19:09.150 --> 00:19:12.589
what's happening with games and what's still

00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:15.019
doesn't happen, which happened really wonderfully

00:19:15.019 --> 00:19:18.900
with Gears, is we do get the script. It's treated

00:19:18.900 --> 00:19:23.220
like a feature film or a series. I can see where

00:19:23.220 --> 00:19:25.140
we're going, where we're headed with the thought

00:19:25.140 --> 00:19:27.640
process. So I can work on the script in advance.

00:19:28.019 --> 00:19:29.599
And again, what I say, I'm that bitch, right?

00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.400
So I get the script in advance. I tear it up

00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:36.279
and figure out what I see there and then talk

00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.599
to the director and talk to the client, talk

00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:42.950
to the coalition now. basically and say, look,

00:19:43.130 --> 00:19:45.289
this is what I'm thinking. Are we on the same

00:19:45.289 --> 00:19:49.829
page? And this is so. So now you know why I get

00:19:49.829 --> 00:19:53.250
to that level when I show up ready to work. And

00:19:53.250 --> 00:19:55.650
now this is the part I have said before, and

00:19:55.650 --> 00:19:58.410
that is that to other podcasts, to other interviewers

00:19:58.410 --> 00:20:01.670
is that when I showed up and the Maria scene,

00:20:01.730 --> 00:20:03.589
like you said, you read it, you're like, fuck,

00:20:03.769 --> 00:20:06.849
man, like like this is not. your basic video

00:20:06.849 --> 00:20:10.190
game cutscenes. Yeah, exactly. They're never,

00:20:10.309 --> 00:20:12.950
and I can say this confidently, people will always

00:20:12.950 --> 00:20:16.829
bring up a scene from Final Fantasy or Halo,

00:20:17.490 --> 00:20:20.170
it's not the same. It's not the same to have

00:20:20.170 --> 00:20:25.470
a human person have to go through, and by virtue

00:20:25.470 --> 00:20:27.789
of your playing the game, you go through it.

00:20:28.230 --> 00:20:33.130
It's something so horrible, right? So I thought...

00:20:33.180 --> 00:20:34.720
I'll tell you what I thought first, and then

00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:37.119
I'll tell you what happened. I thought I was

00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:40.720
going to come in and tell the director, the producers,

00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:44.339
that I was going to say, hey, so this is what

00:20:44.339 --> 00:20:47.099
I think. I think this is dark. I think this is

00:20:47.099 --> 00:20:52.400
fucked up. I think that if I act this, I'm going

00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:57.039
to need to optimize the situation in the recording

00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:01.500
studio. John, I don't know how he feels about

00:21:01.500 --> 00:21:05.069
this. to them that it's going to be a fucking

00:21:05.069 --> 00:21:11.549
mess. And I said, so that's what I'm ready to

00:21:11.549 --> 00:21:14.690
do. But I want you to tell me if you really,

00:21:14.809 --> 00:21:16.210
and I'll never forget this for the rest of my

00:21:16.210 --> 00:21:18.869
life, I said, do you want me to go there? Now,

00:21:18.869 --> 00:21:20.829
what I thought they were going to say is, what

00:21:20.829 --> 00:21:22.829
the fuck is wrong with you? It's a video game.

00:21:23.809 --> 00:21:26.130
Right. Right. Exactly. What are you thinking,

00:21:26.230 --> 00:21:28.750
Mr. De Niro? Could we just get the monsters and

00:21:28.750 --> 00:21:32.690
move forward? You know what I mean? Well. This

00:21:32.690 --> 00:21:34.650
is what their reaction was. I said, do you want

00:21:34.650 --> 00:21:37.730
me to go there? Unanimously, they went, yeah.

00:21:42.349 --> 00:21:47.470
It was practically like giddy, like, fuck yeah,

00:21:47.509 --> 00:21:49.910
let's do that shit. And I was like, yeah, it's

00:21:49.910 --> 00:21:51.670
easy for you guys to say, yeah, let's do that.

00:21:52.210 --> 00:21:54.369
I have to go, I have to go. that's something

00:21:54.369 --> 00:21:58.109
that no human being, you can live 80, 90 years

00:21:58.109 --> 00:21:59.910
in your life and never go through anything even

00:21:59.910 --> 00:22:05.269
close to that, right? This is sci -fi horror,

00:22:05.849 --> 00:22:10.710
every kind of genre. It is best in one scene,

00:22:10.730 --> 00:22:16.670
right? So I'll give you guys a very, it's not

00:22:16.670 --> 00:22:18.390
like a secret, it's just not known very much.

00:22:18.650 --> 00:22:23.569
I did the mocap for that too. Yeah, so me and

00:22:23.569 --> 00:22:27.089
John were in North Carolina, and I was on their

00:22:27.089 --> 00:22:31.089
mocap stage, and I wore the dot suit, which,

00:22:31.250 --> 00:22:34.210
by the way, if you guys ever think about doing

00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:41.789
mocap, don't. Notice. Notice. Right now. Unless

00:22:41.789 --> 00:22:45.750
you are far more secure with your ego than I

00:22:45.750 --> 00:22:49.940
was, because that, you could put Anybody you

00:22:49.940 --> 00:22:52.259
could put an athlete a movie star in that mocap

00:22:52.259 --> 00:22:54.279
suit and we've seen like people with the dots

00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:56.140
and shit I mean, I just watched a video of the

00:22:56.140 --> 00:22:58.240
cat from stray wearing the dots. Okay, right

00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.900
So it's really common and I've done it on a few

00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:03.519
games But that was that was the first time that

00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:06.559
I was balls out, you know doing a scene It was

00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:08.980
about me and it was like doing theater I had

00:23:08.980 --> 00:23:11.980
the scene memorized and I was doing the I was

00:23:11.980 --> 00:23:14.759
doing like it was in a movie or a play Which

00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:17.559
is cool as shit, but it means I have to act it

00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:21.329
twice Yeah, okay when we record it now I had

00:23:21.329 --> 00:23:22.849
to act it when we were doing the motion capture

00:23:22.849 --> 00:23:24.990
most of them But the but the reason I tell you

00:23:24.990 --> 00:23:27.410
guys and your viewers is when you watch it now,

00:23:27.630 --> 00:23:30.269
it's not like a robot It's it's me. It's not

00:23:30.269 --> 00:23:35.869
that Maria scene is completely mine and I Had

00:23:35.869 --> 00:23:38.410
them turn down the lights in the recording studio

00:23:38.410 --> 00:23:44.210
number that bitch. Yeah I I did the scene and

00:23:44.210 --> 00:23:46.930
I I don't know man, I don't know how much, I

00:23:46.930 --> 00:23:49.130
mean, I'm trying to keep this stuff succinct

00:23:49.130 --> 00:23:54.630
here, but I will tell you, it was really, really

00:23:54.630 --> 00:23:59.220
hard. And really, I was going through, really,

00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:01.220
everything you hear and see. I'm really going

00:24:01.220 --> 00:24:04.579
through it, like, for realies. And John, you

00:24:04.579 --> 00:24:08.480
know, I think he lucked out in the dialogue department

00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.180
that he got to say, you know, Dom, it's OK. Which,

00:24:11.259 --> 00:24:15.039
by the way, it's not fucking OK. Exactly. There's

00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:17.519
almost a tradition now, at this point with Gears,

00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.519
something horrible happens. And they go, like

00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.279
when Dom bites it in three, Anya's like, it's

00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:34.420
OK, Marcus, it's OK. Anyway, so so we we did

00:24:34.420 --> 00:24:40.039
the scene and I went there and the I think it

00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:44.960
played we got it in one take and When they yeah,

00:24:44.980 --> 00:24:55.369
fuck it. Fuck. Yeah I should say shit. Yeah I

00:24:55.369 --> 00:25:00.289
can do this all day I'll give your your viewers

00:25:00.289 --> 00:25:09.529
that played Gears 1 flashbacks That's why I had

00:25:09.529 --> 00:25:13.049
to lighten the mood with revival. So yeah, man,

00:25:13.250 --> 00:25:16.190
we did the thing. And again, what I thought we

00:25:16.190 --> 00:25:17.029
were going to do, like, so what goes through

00:25:17.029 --> 00:25:18.509
your mind when you read that in the script? What

00:25:18.509 --> 00:25:20.529
went through my mind is, I can't believe they're

00:25:20.529 --> 00:25:22.509
really going to let me do this because it's pretty

00:25:22.509 --> 00:25:26.589
heavy shit. That being said, it completely changed

00:25:26.589 --> 00:25:32.890
my career. It changed everything. It was the

00:25:32.890 --> 00:25:35.430
coolest thing at that point. It was the coolest

00:25:35.430 --> 00:25:37.750
thing that had ever happened because people kind

00:25:37.750 --> 00:25:39.480
of. didn't there was all there's always trolls

00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:41.259
and haters that will be like what the fuck is

00:25:41.259 --> 00:25:44.039
this let's kill monsters but yeah by and large

00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:46.259
everybody was like you know they they felt for

00:25:46.259 --> 00:25:48.420
dom they understood his story more they they

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:50.160
tapped in him you know you got to remember the

00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.839
first person you ever the first thing you ever

00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.180
encounter in the gears of war universe if you've

00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:58.500
never even heard of gears of war yeah first person

00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:01.460
you see you don't see marcus first you see dom

00:26:01.460 --> 00:26:06.660
you hear jack rip that door and then you see

00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.259
What does Gears of War look like? It looks like

00:26:09.259 --> 00:26:11.799
Dom. It's the cog armor. It's the Lancer. It's

00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.380
Jack. And then the brothers are immediately taking

00:26:15.380 --> 00:26:17.839
us on this trip that would go on for so long,

00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:22.119
you know? And I wanted that weight there when

00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.180
we did the Maria scene. And so to wrap that up,

00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:29.559
I will tell you. So there's a reason. And I blame

00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.980
myself that for three, that scene that I mentioned

00:26:32.980 --> 00:26:35.859
lightly, I said, you know, Dom bites it. Yeah.

00:26:36.500 --> 00:26:39.299
I really feel that somebody, I don't know who,

00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.380
but somebody was like, one more time, they were

00:26:41.380 --> 00:26:45.119
like, yeah, let's do that. You know what I mean?

00:26:45.299 --> 00:26:49.039
Yeah. And, you know, that's, I don't resent that.

00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.000
I welcome it and I appreciate it. I'm grateful

00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:54.180
that I got to tell the story and that I got to

00:26:54.180 --> 00:26:57.240
do that thing I do, man. Right. It changed the

00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.160
way the players interacted with the team, too.

00:27:00.700 --> 00:27:03.079
It was such a pivotal moment. You've been you've

00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.920
been grinding away on this epic journey to save

00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:12.019
your family. Yep. And for it to just go away.

00:27:12.190 --> 00:27:16.250
Yeah, be for not and and I'm laying the cat on

00:27:16.250 --> 00:27:18.509
the back here when I got to that point of that

00:27:18.509 --> 00:27:21.190
game. Yeah, bro. I had to put my control out.

00:27:21.230 --> 00:27:24.549
I balled up, bro. Yeah. Oh, my God. Do this.

00:27:24.730 --> 00:27:27.990
No. What's going on? We all stop playing that

00:27:27.990 --> 00:27:30.009
for a few minutes because like, what the fuck

00:27:30.009 --> 00:27:37.910
is that? I won't name. I won't name what outlet

00:27:37.910 --> 00:27:43.480
said it, but it was very kind. When that came

00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:45.460
out when the reviews came out and they were like

00:27:45.460 --> 00:27:49.119
I said by and large you were positive And they

00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.140
said that see see I'm trying to be humble without

00:27:52.140 --> 00:27:58.880
being humble so So no this this very large large

00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.940
like might even be the largest outlet said that

00:28:01.940 --> 00:28:05.359
the Maria scene Carlos Ferro changed video game

00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:10.130
voice acting forever And I appreciate that. And

00:28:10.130 --> 00:28:13.650
it's really funny, because if you are a gamer,

00:28:13.869 --> 00:28:14.910
it doesn't have to be a hardcore gamer, just

00:28:14.910 --> 00:28:18.130
a gamer that's been playing forever and ever

00:28:18.130 --> 00:28:20.009
and ever, always has a console in the house,

00:28:20.650 --> 00:28:23.190
knows all their games, and then is a shooter's

00:28:23.190 --> 00:28:25.670
guy first or third, doesn't matter. If you have

00:28:25.670 --> 00:28:28.529
followed gaming, you'll notice that the second

00:28:28.529 --> 00:28:31.150
that that Maria scene happened and then the Gears

00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:33.809
3 scene happened, all of a sudden, all these

00:28:33.809 --> 00:28:36.150
franchises were like, the horse going to fucking

00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:44.970
die. Thank you. And I didn't say there was that

00:28:44.970 --> 00:28:47.809
game. I didn't say that. I just picked a horse.

00:28:48.109 --> 00:28:52.289
I picked an animal out of clear blue sky. Let's

00:28:52.289 --> 00:28:54.089
kill the horse. Let's just kill the horse. I

00:28:54.089 --> 00:28:55.950
always kill the horse. You know what's funny?

00:28:56.109 --> 00:28:57.869
Guys, you guys are making, you know that that

00:28:57.869 --> 00:28:59.950
conversation happened. You know that conversation.

00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:02.730
I believe it. And you know it went exactly like

00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:03.990
that. They were like, can we kill the horse?

00:29:04.250 --> 00:29:07.130
No, let's kill one of the guys. Nah, that's going

00:29:07.130 --> 00:29:08.970
to be too obvious. No, do we have a horse called

00:29:08.970 --> 00:29:13.940
Dom? No. No, because it's gonna hurt more to

00:29:13.940 --> 00:29:19.180
kill the horse. And I'll be honest, when part

00:29:19.180 --> 00:29:23.400
three came out and at the point where Dom becomes

00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.799
the hero and takes one for the team and bites

00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.339
it. But I put my control down and I walked out.

00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:32.519
What's the point of playing this game anymore?

00:29:33.859 --> 00:29:39.799
You're in big company, dude. There is a I think

00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.599
you can join YouTube. What's it YouTube? Yeah,

00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.240
it's YouTube not twitch. It was on YouTube. There

00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:48.940
were all these videos Dom dies rage quit and

00:29:48.940 --> 00:29:52.420
and it was it was people crying It was people

00:29:52.420 --> 00:29:55.480
just just streaming man, and yeah, they they

00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.519
threw the fucking controllers. They broke their

00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:02.400
own yes yes because you know immediately uh my

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.980
only beef if it is it's not a beef really my

00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:06.920
only concern was that it happened too early in

00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:08.960
the game like i don't think we're even the third

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.920
act yet and it happened and so um i think everyone

00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.980
having to play as jace or anya i mean if you've

00:30:15.980 --> 00:30:18.960
played as dom always like i've never played a

00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.369
gears of war game four and five included unless

00:30:21.369 --> 00:30:24.029
I can play as Dom. And I know that it's not just

00:30:24.029 --> 00:30:26.690
because it's my character. A lot of people say

00:30:26.690 --> 00:30:30.329
that when I was hosting esports in Vegas and

00:30:30.329 --> 00:30:34.069
in Mexico, there were these four on four fucking

00:30:34.069 --> 00:30:36.970
battles that were four Doms against four Doms.

00:30:37.210 --> 00:30:40.230
There you go. Dom is a very beloved character.

00:30:40.730 --> 00:30:42.569
Yes, yes. When people wanted to get different

00:30:42.569 --> 00:30:46.029
Lancers and skins, it wasn't like I want one

00:30:46.029 --> 00:30:48.109
that's shiny or I want a gold one with stripes.

00:30:48.430 --> 00:30:50.579
It was like I want a Nasher, and I want it to

00:30:50.579 --> 00:30:53.799
have Maria on it. I want the Dom one. I want

00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.339
the one that has, you know, that one's kind of

00:30:56.339 --> 00:30:58.599
fruity. It's pink and blue. I want it. It's the

00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:00.359
Maria Dom one, you know what I mean? Right, right,

00:31:00.460 --> 00:31:05.079
yeah. And I really appreciate that because it

00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.920
means that all this thought that we put into

00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.039
it, that I put into it, that the writers put

00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:13.380
into it, that we were onto something and that

00:31:13.380 --> 00:31:16.180
it had that effect on games. and more importantly

00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:19.059
than anything. And it's like gamers, man. Yeah.

00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:21.960
And I think a lot of gamers. And to tell you

00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.200
the truth, I stopped playing Gears for a while,

00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:25.900
man, because, I mean, don't get me wrong, I got

00:31:25.900 --> 00:31:28.119
the Dom Zombie. I got that one I had to get.

00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.440
I had to get that one. The Dom Zombie. Oh, man,

00:31:30.539 --> 00:31:32.940
you should have heard people. People were sending

00:31:32.940 --> 00:31:34.859
me pictures of Zombie Dom and I already knew

00:31:34.859 --> 00:31:38.000
about it. They were sending it to me and they

00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.279
were acting like, are you guys, I don't know

00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:44.019
if there's any Latinos in the room. there's a

00:31:44.019 --> 00:31:46.480
couple okay well you know what i'm saying is

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:51.259
that um they got very much like you know what

00:31:51.259 --> 00:31:54.400
i mean like they were like you know what i mean

00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:58.359
they were like did you just did you just call

00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:02.880
dominic santiago did you just from cera no i'm

00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.859
kidding they're like did you just make him a

00:32:06.859 --> 00:32:09.680
zombie when we just got dealt with him dying

00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:13.099
like that is so disrespectful that's so disrespectful

00:32:13.099 --> 00:32:19.700
ain't it and then well like i said i when that's

00:32:19.700 --> 00:32:22.460
the next the next thing i want to step into um

00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:27.160
when they debuted the trailer for uh gears uh

00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.289
gears of war e -day I jumped back on I jumped

00:32:30.289 --> 00:32:33.369
back on Gears 5 and I found the collectors Dom

00:32:33.369 --> 00:32:36.470
available and I bought that sucker man ASAP I

00:32:36.470 --> 00:32:40.450
go here's five Gears five like people come at

00:32:40.450 --> 00:32:42.910
me with criticisms about form five because it's

00:32:42.910 --> 00:32:46.069
not the first story the original trilogy, but

00:32:46.069 --> 00:32:50.490
here's the thing is In and I'll do it in tears

00:32:50.490 --> 00:32:54.730
number one Four's opening is the prequel scene

00:32:54.730 --> 00:32:58.220
at asphalt fields with Dom and Hoffman And we

00:32:58.220 --> 00:33:00.519
worked, excuse me, we worked like a couple of

00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.799
years to try to figure out how to incorporate

00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:09.539
Dom into four, how to kind of have some fun with

00:33:09.539 --> 00:33:12.240
the universe without being dismissive of the

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:16.559
original trilogy or being too like... you know,

00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.180
not to be shitty with anybody. So you say, how

00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:20.660
do we do this? What's the mix of continuing the

00:33:20.660 --> 00:33:23.319
story of the locust and the swarm without being

00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:26.160
kind of like shitty to the story that was already

00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.960
beginning, middle, and ended, you know? And so

00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.940
I dug, I really dug the opening scene from Four.

00:33:33.220 --> 00:33:34.819
And like I said, we worked really hard on it.

00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:38.119
I was very proud of it. I didn't, I understand.

00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:41.180
I still am very proud of what we did with Four.

00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:46.099
I've never, every time I work on something, of

00:33:46.099 --> 00:33:49.180
the five games, we record all new audio. So all

00:33:49.180 --> 00:33:53.380
of that, I'll take that and anything, take cover.

00:33:53.779 --> 00:33:56.319
It's every time it's different in every game.

00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.339
We recorded original except for the Gears of

00:33:59.339 --> 00:34:02.279
War Ultimate Edition, which is arguably my favorite

00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:05.039
thing of the games, my favorite game. And it's

00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:08.780
because they... It wasn't a remaster, that's

00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:12.320
a real wrong term. It rebuilt Gears 1 from the

00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.519
ground up, and the only thing that survived was

00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:18.340
the audio. And I thought it was really smart,

00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.320
it fixed a lot of, not glitches, but certainly

00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.639
things that could be improved upon, story -wise

00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.559
and mechanics -wise. So you get to play Gears

00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:33.360
1 in the universe of Xbox One. So I dug what

00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:37.119
we did there. You mentioned five about the Collectors

00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.460
Dom. There's this badass picture of Farmer Dom.

00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.300
I don't know if you see that. Yes, but yeah,

00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.239
it's it's it's it's heaters on Chippendale's

00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:54.059
territory. You know, like I've wanted I may even

00:34:54.059 --> 00:34:55.960
do it now because of this podcast. You just gave

00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:57.980
me the idea. I've wanted to put that picture

00:34:57.980 --> 00:34:59.940
up and like play like some house music in the

00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:01.679
background, you know, because it will make the

00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:10.760
picture look very different. But but here's five

00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.639
I think has the most beautiful of all the Multiplayers

00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.300
and yeah, and and that and I'm someone who grinded

00:35:17.300 --> 00:35:21.400
out every night Hours and hours in gears to horde

00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.199
mode and in gears three horde mode, but I will

00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:27.760
tell you I sucked around those laser encampments

00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.039
Like if you if you if you had a homie that would

00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:33.920
be like you guys are at level 32 and you're like

00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:36.460
Man, is tonight going to be the night? Are we

00:35:36.460 --> 00:35:38.639
going to finally hit 50 together? And you just

00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.960
have seen. That's like last week. Well, I was

00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.179
the guy. I was the guy. I was the guy with the

00:35:46.179 --> 00:35:48.519
lasers that people would be like, what are you

00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.400
doing? Because you would just see, I'd be like,

00:35:51.539 --> 00:35:56.460
in it, and then just poof. I hated that shit.

00:35:57.739 --> 00:36:00.340
But five, five, I dig the multiplayer. And I'm

00:36:00.340 --> 00:36:02.219
very proud of everything we've done with the

00:36:02.219 --> 00:36:06.340
franchise. That's awesome. Now the question per

00:36:06.340 --> 00:36:08.900
se is right now is that everybody wants to know,

00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:16.760
will you be in Gears of War E -Day? It is way,

00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.780
way too early for me or anybody else to answer

00:36:20.780 --> 00:36:24.420
that question. It's the development stage of

00:36:24.420 --> 00:36:31.000
the game. I'm in a real tricky position because

00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.389
I can't, if I say I am, it's the biggest news

00:36:34.389 --> 00:36:37.690
in video games. If I say I'm not, it's the biggest

00:36:37.690 --> 00:36:44.449
news in video games. But I think that it's always

00:36:44.449 --> 00:36:47.110
been, things like that, things like that are

00:36:47.110 --> 00:36:50.070
always, there's very few places, guys, and I

00:36:50.070 --> 00:36:52.309
mean this from my heart, from the heart, okay,

00:36:52.590 --> 00:36:55.170
there's very few places in your life where you

00:36:55.170 --> 00:36:57.260
truly have power. You know what I mean? Like

00:36:57.260 --> 00:36:59.039
you start figuring out that you don't have as

00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.500
much power in your house as you thought. You

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:03.199
know what I mean? You start figuring out that

00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.880
at work, you can be the supervisor, you can be

00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.159
the owner, and you still don't have the power

00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:09.820
you think you did over the landlord. You know

00:37:09.820 --> 00:37:13.320
what I mean? And over all kinds of things that

00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.960
play into it. Everybody, I'm not a parent. but

00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.639
I've helped raise kids and you know, you think

00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.480
that you're the, you know, metal metal, you know,

00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.099
and you find out very quickly that that's not

00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:28.599
the case. Right. You got to kind of deal with

00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:32.539
what you can. Well, in the case of video game

00:37:32.539 --> 00:37:35.059
and specifically the video game industry and

00:37:35.059 --> 00:37:39.239
really all geeky stuff like cartoons and animated

00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:43.460
shows, this is when the public actually has power,

00:37:43.500 --> 00:37:45.260
guys. You remember what happened to Sonic the

00:37:45.260 --> 00:37:49.760
Hedgehog? Yes, yes everybody thinks I mean, I

00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.980
mean we all have our own version of a conspiracy

00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:55.599
freak because It's healthy to be a little bit

00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:57.519
paranoid and stuff So you kind of think oh man,

00:37:57.539 --> 00:37:59.159
they pulled the wool over my eyes You think that

00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.559
just to protect yourself? But the reality there

00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.900
is when they showed us a trailer when they put

00:38:03.900 --> 00:38:06.019
all that time energy and money into a trailer

00:38:06.019 --> 00:38:09.300
for a skinny Sonic with weird teeth You know

00:38:09.300 --> 00:38:12.739
what I mean? That's not on purpose. Yeah, I got

00:38:12.739 --> 00:38:15.179
you. I got you. I got you. You don't represent,

00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.780
you don't represent your team, hundreds of people

00:38:18.780 --> 00:38:21.480
in man hours. You don't do it and go, ta -da,

00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.099
just fucking with you. That's the same. Right,

00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.940
right, right. So when the public were like, how

00:38:27.940 --> 00:38:30.119
fucking hard can it be? And someone went into

00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.920
Photoshop and just made a photorealistic sonic,

00:38:33.179 --> 00:38:35.059
which by the way, all of us that have been on

00:38:35.059 --> 00:38:39.239
the internet since 96 or whatever, we'd all seen

00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:42.119
photorealistic Homer Simpson, Jessica Rabb is

00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:46.619
a good one, photorealistic cartoon, I know, let's

00:38:46.619 --> 00:38:52.260
take a moment. But cartoon characters, photorealistic,

00:38:52.380 --> 00:38:55.659
you know? So the Sonic thing, we were right.

00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.119
And we had the power and we had a voice to say,

00:38:59.460 --> 00:39:02.099
you're taking not just something beloved, like

00:39:02.099 --> 00:39:05.380
I've always loved Superman, it's this is something

00:39:05.380 --> 00:39:08.039
very specific to like two or three generations

00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:13.260
of kids and adults that's that's sonic and mario

00:39:13.260 --> 00:39:16.760
and all of these these guys the specific gaming

00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.500
uh area we all have our heart is connected to

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:23.460
it and people you know they made their voice

00:39:23.460 --> 00:39:26.900
known that's why they fixed it and i i think

00:39:26.900 --> 00:39:31.139
that um i don't i think it's uh It's interesting

00:39:31.139 --> 00:39:33.380
that they're not being an official announcement

00:39:33.380 --> 00:39:35.059
and this is the most by the way guys you guys

00:39:35.059 --> 00:39:38.420
This is the most I've ever talked about the Xbox

00:39:38.420 --> 00:39:41.679
showcase. I'm not talking about much But again,

00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.179
if I say if I say that, you know, I'm under non

00:39:44.179 --> 00:39:46.480
-disclosure agreement I'm contractually I can't

00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.440
say anything that dude that duh, right? Something

00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:55.199
without saying what I say if I say I know from

00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.619
the last 25 years plus years in show business,

00:39:59.960 --> 00:40:02.659
I know what it is to be cagey on purpose and

00:40:02.659 --> 00:40:04.900
to try to get attention. I'm certainly not doing

00:40:04.900 --> 00:40:06.480
that, especially not to you guys. The reason

00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.960
I want to do this podcast is because I have a

00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:13.679
real connection to the RGV. My peoples have been

00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:17.000
very good to me there every time I visited. And

00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.059
I try, I try desperately to give back and to

00:40:20.059 --> 00:40:23.780
be supportive of artists locally. And so I wanted

00:40:23.780 --> 00:40:27.000
to be really straight with you guys is that I

00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:31.900
think if it weren't the case, I think that that

00:40:31.900 --> 00:40:36.659
would be crazy. and i think that uh i think that

00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:39.320
i think el público would make it known that it's

00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.300
crazy oh yeah you know what i mean real quick

00:40:42.300 --> 00:40:46.940
and and if it is the case then we all got something

00:40:46.940 --> 00:40:49.880
to look forward to and celebrate so it's kind

00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:51.900
of sorted no matter what you know what i mean

00:40:51.900 --> 00:40:56.090
i i And that, like I said, this is me not being

00:40:56.090 --> 00:40:57.769
cagey. This is me just being like, hey, man,

00:40:57.969 --> 00:40:59.929
they don't make announcements like that at this

00:40:59.929 --> 00:41:02.110
stage of the game. They just wanted people to

00:41:02.110 --> 00:41:06.769
know that it's happening. And people have been

00:41:06.769 --> 00:41:09.050
coming at me all over the internet, and John

00:41:09.050 --> 00:41:11.730
as well, being like, what's this mean? What's

00:41:11.730 --> 00:41:17.829
the deal? And I saw an article that I think one

00:41:17.829 --> 00:41:20.889
of the people, one of the big bosses, I won't

00:41:20.889 --> 00:41:23.070
name names, but just that the same thing I'm

00:41:23.070 --> 00:41:27.429
saying is, whether it is or isn't, we don't make

00:41:27.429 --> 00:41:30.889
announcements in the video game industry. We

00:41:30.889 --> 00:41:32.969
don't make these kinds of announcements. It's

00:41:32.969 --> 00:41:34.949
premature to make these announcements. It's only

00:41:34.949 --> 00:41:38.949
because, again, this is me just for example,

00:41:39.429 --> 00:41:42.510
what if the game's delayed? You know what I mean?

00:41:43.010 --> 00:41:47.610
What if, God forbid, something happens to me

00:41:47.610 --> 00:41:50.269
or John, and we're in the hospital, and it pushes?

00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:56.960
Or somebody has a different creative take. I

00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.719
just think that it would be fucking crazy. You

00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.659
know what I mean? I think we've been in this

00:42:04.659 --> 00:42:07.619
so long with that Brothers to the End thing in

00:42:07.619 --> 00:42:12.679
Gears Inc. We've leaned into that as artists

00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.440
and as creative people. We've leaned into the

00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.780
community of Gears of War. I mean, Mexico might

00:42:18.780 --> 00:42:21.849
as well be called Mexico City Gears of War, you

00:42:21.849 --> 00:42:24.769
know what I mean? It is so special in Mexico

00:42:24.769 --> 00:42:27.590
City. It's the home, really, of Gears of War.

00:42:28.809 --> 00:42:31.869
And, you know, it's not a secret that maybe my

00:42:31.869 --> 00:42:34.210
Dominic Santiago might have something to do with

00:42:34.210 --> 00:42:40.070
it, you know? And in this country, and also in

00:42:40.070 --> 00:42:42.809
Europe, man, when I'm in the UK, for example,

00:42:43.269 --> 00:42:48.530
I mean, Scotland, Liverpool, London, Wales. Everybody

00:42:48.530 --> 00:42:51.210
knows my character the way they know my character

00:42:51.210 --> 00:42:53.690
and I don't think that anybody would respond

00:42:53.690 --> 00:42:59.090
well to to such a Change, you know, that's that

00:42:59.090 --> 00:43:00.809
and there's no reason for it. I might add as

00:43:00.809 --> 00:43:02.769
well, you know, right, right There's there's

00:43:02.769 --> 00:43:05.849
plenty of time and energy and money to go around,

00:43:05.849 --> 00:43:08.670
you know, gotcha. I hear you man It's it's just

00:43:08.670 --> 00:43:13.369
that if you're gonna announce a prequel You know

00:43:13.369 --> 00:43:16.050
with our favorite characters our beloved characters

00:43:17.389 --> 00:43:20.590
There's an expectation there, I'm sorry. There's

00:43:20.590 --> 00:43:23.190
an expectation there. So like I was saying to

00:43:23.190 --> 00:43:26.329
you, they'd be crazy, right? They'd be crazy,

00:43:26.329 --> 00:43:34.090
right? You know what I'm saying? So that's the

00:43:34.090 --> 00:43:36.590
most I can say, guys, and that's a lot. That's

00:43:36.590 --> 00:43:38.829
a lot. Thank you so much. That's fine. That's

00:43:38.829 --> 00:43:39.710
fine. We understand where you're coming from.

00:43:39.710 --> 00:43:41.630
All I know is when I saw the trailer, my nephew

00:43:41.630 --> 00:43:44.010
sent me the trailer, and he goes, dude, did you

00:43:44.010 --> 00:43:45.449
see this? I go, no, what is it? He goes, check

00:43:45.449 --> 00:43:48.739
out the trailer. I checked it out, and it shows

00:43:48.739 --> 00:43:51.039
where Marcus is falling through one of the holes,

00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.179
and he's about to slip off the pipe, and I see

00:43:53.179 --> 00:43:54.860
that arm come down, and as soon as I saw the

00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:57.639
arm come out, I recognized the get -up. Like,

00:43:58.300 --> 00:44:02.539
are you fucking kidding me? I got up, ran around

00:44:02.539 --> 00:44:04.400
the house like a little girl, and my wife goes,

00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.500
you are fucking nuts. I go, oh my God, it's Tommy's

00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:16.579
back, he's back. I watched it live. I had the

00:44:16.579 --> 00:44:19.420
same the same kind of feeling in that I liked

00:44:19.420 --> 00:44:22.900
how that was put together and But but I but I

00:44:22.900 --> 00:44:25.980
will tell you this the second that I saw that

00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:28.280
I was like, okay Well, here we go because me

00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.300
and John are all we're gonna be is asked, you

00:44:30.300 --> 00:44:33.139
know And and it's a bummer because you know as

00:44:33.139 --> 00:44:36.059
you can imagine either way we'd want to say you

00:44:36.059 --> 00:44:38.880
know what I mean, but it's just part of our business

00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.139
that and then there's there's a laundry list

00:44:42.139 --> 00:44:47.119
of good reasons of Why not to go official? But

00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.960
I will tell you, I am spectacularly excited about

00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:56.519
what's been shown and what story can be told.

00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:01.420
I mean, it's my franchise, man. I'm very excited.

00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:04.719
Right. Well, I think I can speak as a fan of

00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.340
the game in general that we have expectations

00:45:07.340 --> 00:45:11.360
that they're not met. We're riding! There will

00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:21.000
be trouble. This will be this will be one of

00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.039
those moments in your podcast that your viewers

00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.260
will screen cap because they'll know they'll

00:45:27.260 --> 00:45:29.260
they'll they'll say what you what we were talking

00:45:29.260 --> 00:45:31.760
about and what you just said and that I went

00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:37.539
like this Yes. We'll put question from a card

00:45:37.539 --> 00:45:44.280
operation human shield. Yes. Let's do this. Did

00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:47.340
you have any question quiz? Hey, I've been wanting

00:45:47.340 --> 00:45:49.579
to ask all y 'all a question. Go for it. I've

00:45:49.579 --> 00:45:52.519
been playing years lately. Why does it go just

00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:57.639
to 13? 13. Yeah, it's five. It's Gears five or

00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.780
six. Which one do we know? We're Gears five right

00:45:59.780 --> 00:46:04.070
now. Yeah, it only goes up to 13. 13 what are

00:46:04.070 --> 00:46:06.349
you doing 13? I've been getting multiplayer online.

00:46:06.349 --> 00:46:10.070
We only get 13 stops at 13. Oh you need help

00:46:10.070 --> 00:46:13.809
Okay, so listen this is this I want you to know

00:46:13.809 --> 00:46:16.130
what's what's your brother's name quiz quiz?

00:46:16.750 --> 00:46:18.989
Quiz like a quiz that you take at school. No

00:46:18.989 --> 00:46:23.030
quiz quiz like it's like quest without the T

00:46:23.030 --> 00:46:26.269
Yes, a quick quiz. So I'll tell you quiz you

00:46:26.269 --> 00:46:28.489
just gave me my favorite moment of this whole

00:46:28.489 --> 00:46:33.960
podcast No, I said my favorite, favorite moment

00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.119
because it was, I mean, I mentioned Cheech earlier.

00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:39.440
That was some Cheech and Chong level comedy.

00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:46.300
That was like, are we, hey man, am I driving

00:46:46.300 --> 00:46:53.389
okay? It was hard, man. I mean, that was fantastic.

00:46:53.789 --> 00:46:58.750
That was like, you know, I have a question about

00:46:58.750 --> 00:47:03.949
Gears of War 6, and we're on five. That's what

00:47:03.949 --> 00:47:10.510
I meant. Why does it go to 13? None of us know

00:47:10.510 --> 00:47:14.210
what you're talking about. And you're like, let

00:47:14.210 --> 00:47:17.809
me explain. In multiplayer, why does it go to

00:47:17.809 --> 00:47:24.920
13? Guys, you know you're gonna have to explain

00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:26.980
that at some point. Maybe right now is not the

00:47:26.980 --> 00:47:31.340
time. Right now is not the time. When we get

00:47:31.340 --> 00:47:34.420
off the air, we will go over your question. We'll

00:47:34.420 --> 00:47:36.400
roll back. Let's stick it on the refrigerator

00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:38.099
there like a little post -it, then we'll get

00:47:38.099 --> 00:47:40.320
back to it. Are we gonna go over this thing?

00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.119
I don't know how we're gonna go over this. That

00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:54.090
was fantastic. All the success that you've had

00:47:54.090 --> 00:47:59.510
with Dom with Gears 1, 2, and 3, the fans, well,

00:47:59.510 --> 00:48:01.130
I'm pretty sure you go quite a few Comic -Cons

00:48:01.130 --> 00:48:04.570
or signings and everything. What's the reaction

00:48:04.570 --> 00:48:07.590
when they come and see you to get the autograph?

00:48:07.929 --> 00:48:13.289
What are the requests? So because we're running

00:48:13.289 --> 00:48:16.650
out of time? Yes. Am I am gonna tell you actually

00:48:16.650 --> 00:48:19.309
I've got I've got like another good 15 minutes

00:48:19.309 --> 00:48:24.849
in me, okay, okay, so so this is It's all good

00:48:24.849 --> 00:48:26.309
guys. First of all, that's all I'll give you

00:48:26.309 --> 00:48:29.949
the serious answer first and that is is I I have

00:48:29.949 --> 00:48:34.489
so many wonderful experiences There there is

00:48:34.489 --> 00:48:37.789
there was a guy I believe it was in Albuquerque,

00:48:37.829 --> 00:48:41.150
New Mexico Shout out to Gears Inc and all the

00:48:41.150 --> 00:48:44.530
people that have Gears Inc here. He had saved

00:48:44.730 --> 00:48:49.670
he'd saved a space on his arm. It was just like

00:48:49.670 --> 00:48:56.349
a banner, you know? And it was reserved for my

00:48:56.349 --> 00:49:02.070
autograph. And that is like, OK, that's not that

00:49:02.070 --> 00:49:04.969
unusual in that I was going to be signing Carlos

00:49:04.969 --> 00:49:07.349
Ferro Dom, which is what I signed on the Gears

00:49:07.349 --> 00:49:10.730
of War stuff. And I was like, OK, more power

00:49:10.730 --> 00:49:12.769
to you. You're going to have that on your arm

00:49:12.769 --> 00:49:15.760
for a while? Knock yourself out. but the thing

00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.460
was is what was around that banner, around this

00:49:18.460 --> 00:49:22.980
very small banner, this little space, it was

00:49:22.980 --> 00:49:28.820
a variation on the Maria tattoo. And the Maria

00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:31.280
tattoo, but it was a variation, it wasn't Maria,

00:49:31.820 --> 00:49:38.000
it was more Gears of War lore and the look of

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.469
not... just maria but the maria and remembrance

00:49:40.469 --> 00:49:42.510
that you you know like the uh... the statue in

00:49:42.510 --> 00:49:45.909
mercy the right right it like a tombstone guys

00:49:45.909 --> 00:49:49.349
you know i mean and uh... and uh... he had played

00:49:49.349 --> 00:49:53.469
years of war every years of war collected all

00:49:53.469 --> 00:49:55.750
the comics and everything with his little brother

00:49:55.750 --> 00:50:00.250
and his little brother died and he was he has

00:50:00.250 --> 00:50:03.960
played two anymore and so he channeled all of

00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:07.019
this grief into this ink. And for those of you

00:50:07.019 --> 00:50:09.000
that have tattoos like I do, and I have a pretty

00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.739
big one on my right arm, that's also about processing

00:50:13.739 --> 00:50:20.079
grief. It was a lot for me, but it wasn't like,

00:50:20.099 --> 00:50:21.760
oh, you weirdo, I'm giving you my autograph on

00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:26.139
your arm. It came again like, wow, I'm helping

00:50:26.139 --> 00:50:29.000
you finish the journey of the tattoo. Does that

00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.500
make sense? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.239
I'm being a part of something bigger than what

00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.320
a cool character I play in this cool video game

00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:41.179
series. And that changes you, man. That makes

00:50:41.179 --> 00:50:43.639
you, as an artist, yeah, man, it's cool to be

00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:47.639
well -paid or well -known, but those of us like

00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.280
me, one more time, that bitch, I got into this

00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.719
to be, and I tell students this, I tell my students

00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.300
this, unless you're getting into this to be the

00:50:57.300 --> 00:51:00.000
greatest of your generation, like to be the best

00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:03.489
there ever was, it probably isn't for you. because

00:51:03.489 --> 00:51:06.849
that's what you want. So that's for you. That's

00:51:06.849 --> 00:51:09.190
internal. But if external things happen like

00:51:09.190 --> 00:51:13.329
that, there's nothing better, man. It changes

00:51:13.329 --> 00:51:16.070
you. It lifts you, the other person. It makes

00:51:16.070 --> 00:51:20.250
art, art. It's not just video games. It's not

00:51:20.250 --> 00:51:24.530
comic books. These things have profound impact.

00:51:24.769 --> 00:51:26.989
The X -Men got me through stuff when I was a

00:51:26.989 --> 00:51:30.599
kid. Spider -Man, I was Peter Parker. And I know

00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.219
the people that relate to Dominic Santiago. I

00:51:33.219 --> 00:51:36.320
know the people that hear my voice when I go,

00:51:36.539 --> 00:51:39.059
Marcus! And they're like, fuck, I'm there. I'm

00:51:39.059 --> 00:51:41.780
right there again. Right. You know what I mean?

00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.340
Me just doing the revive me, revive me. And you

00:51:45.340 --> 00:51:48.820
can't put a price on that. You can't be rewarded

00:51:48.820 --> 00:51:51.280
with just being famous or whatever, or how many

00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.760
followers you've got. For me, that's like one

00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.019
of the, if not the most memorable, that's one

00:51:57.019 --> 00:51:59.260
of my most memorable But I'm not going to make

00:51:59.260 --> 00:52:01.800
that be the last story. I'm going to tell you

00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:04.760
the one that I think is the funniest. OK? All

00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:09.420
right. And I've probably only told this once

00:52:09.420 --> 00:52:11.880
at a con, like I was doing a panel about what

00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:16.659
a big shot I am. OK? You are big. The panel was

00:52:16.659 --> 00:52:21.139
like a Q &A with Carlos Faro and asked me anything.

00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.059
And it was funny because. I mean, for an actor,

00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:25.820
I'm gonna talk about how beautiful art is and

00:52:25.820 --> 00:52:28.280
all, but for an actor to have a room of 200 people,

00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.760
just wanna know everything about you. Right.

00:52:31.699 --> 00:52:33.360
It's really cool, you know what I mean? It's

00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:37.550
really cool. I betcha. So, I... So I told the

00:52:37.550 --> 00:52:39.949
story at the panel because it happened at a con

00:52:39.949 --> 00:52:41.989
this this this interaction that I'm gonna tell

00:52:41.989 --> 00:52:45.929
you about is that I finished a finished I finished

00:52:45.929 --> 00:52:49.150
a Panel, but I wasn't at my table is the point

00:52:49.150 --> 00:52:52.010
I was I was walking around with security and

00:52:52.010 --> 00:52:54.170
I told security just you know, we're good man.

00:52:54.230 --> 00:52:56.329
I'll meet you at my table I'm gonna go in the

00:52:56.329 --> 00:52:59.030
bathroom and then take a leak. So I go to the

00:52:59.030 --> 00:53:05.739
urinal now We have we Guess at cons. They don't

00:53:05.739 --> 00:53:08.539
have to use the public Toilets and shit because

00:53:08.539 --> 00:53:10.559
there is one by the green room or behind a curtain

00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:12.260
There's one that you can go and not get fucked

00:53:12.260 --> 00:53:15.019
with right, right? So that you're not you know,

00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.300
so dr. Who can take a piss, you know, I mean

00:53:17.300 --> 00:53:23.000
So I was like I'm gonna use I'm to do that. So

00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.159
I didn't I just went through I got told meet

00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:28.159
me my table So I went to now again. This is the

00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.449
private bathroom. So the bathroom is completely

00:53:31.449 --> 00:53:33.650
empty. There's not a soul, no other guests were

00:53:33.650 --> 00:53:35.409
in there using it when I went in there. Right.

00:53:35.409 --> 00:53:38.190
So there's like probably 12 urinals, like a big

00:53:38.190 --> 00:53:40.989
lineup of urinals. So I go and I stand in the

00:53:40.989 --> 00:53:43.710
middle, like middle more or less urinal, so I

00:53:43.710 --> 00:53:48.449
don't feel lonely. And so I'm standing there

00:53:48.449 --> 00:53:52.869
doing my business and a guy comes in and it is

00:53:52.869 --> 00:53:57.820
crystal clear that this kid is not a guest. And

00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:01.519
that he doesn't work for the convention And that

00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:05.699
he's just an attendee that followed me And he

00:54:05.699 --> 00:54:08.500
walked and I was like, I mean we've all been

00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:10.059
there I mean shit We probably were there like

00:54:10.059 --> 00:54:12.059
yesterday where you're in a public urinal and

00:54:12.059 --> 00:54:13.940
you kind of you don't really talk to another

00:54:13.940 --> 00:54:16.500
person But you kind of acknowledge their existence

00:54:16.500 --> 00:54:19.739
right or you don't one or the other you don't

00:54:19.739 --> 00:54:24.780
exist or you go But that's, at best, that's the

00:54:24.780 --> 00:54:27.179
max, right? Yeah, exactly. I'm really setting

00:54:27.179 --> 00:54:30.800
you guys up because I think it's funny. I'm sitting

00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.900
there, I'm standing there, better said, I'm standing

00:54:33.900 --> 00:54:37.460
there doing my business. And the guy of all the

00:54:37.460 --> 00:54:39.820
urinals, he stands in the one right next to me.

00:54:40.099 --> 00:54:47.980
Oh my gosh. Oh, come on, man. And now, I'm just,

00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.199
I'm showing you guys, I was like this, like.

00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:56.460
Like, what do you do, right? And I look over

00:54:56.460 --> 00:55:00.960
at him, and I was gonna say, really, dude? Like,

00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:04.760
really? Like, 13 urinals, and you picked the

00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.239
one next to me, right? So that's me. I'm gonna

00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:11.619
tease him. I'm gonna give him shit, right? And

00:55:11.619 --> 00:55:15.300
so I look over at the guy, and he looks at me

00:55:15.300 --> 00:55:17.440
square in the eye, which is not more than seven

00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:19.260
or eight inches. He's right next to me, guys.

00:55:19.380 --> 00:55:23.889
He is right next to me. And he goes, say sup,

00:55:24.050 --> 00:55:34.510
bitches. What? Are you serious? What? I swear

00:55:34.510 --> 00:55:38.750
to God on the souls of my parents, that that

00:55:38.750 --> 00:55:42.110
really happened. Wow. He looked me in the eye

00:55:42.110 --> 00:55:44.530
and said, with a kind of a half smile, like,

00:55:44.710 --> 00:55:46.389
like, like, like, this is it worked. This is

00:55:46.389 --> 00:55:50.940
a great fucking idea. And he goes. Say so bitches

00:55:50.940 --> 00:55:54.179
and I looked him right in the eye and now I'm

00:55:54.179 --> 00:55:57.559
like this like like what the fuck and I go Can

00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:07.719
I wash my hands first? Not sorry Not I'm sorry.

00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:11.880
I bothered you nothing. It was like oh One must

00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:13.800
wash their hands before doing lines from video

00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:28.219
games I'm not kidding. I just zipped over, washed

00:56:28.219 --> 00:56:31.820
my hands, and he fucking practically ran next

00:56:31.820 --> 00:56:34.239
to me to wash his hands. And by the way, that

00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.000
I thought was funny. I think he washed his hands

00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:38.380
and he never peed. He never opened his pants.

00:56:40.110 --> 00:56:41.650
You know what I mean? Like, it was all bullshit.

00:56:42.349 --> 00:56:45.670
So he washes his hands, and I go, and I go, so

00:56:45.670 --> 00:56:47.349
you're a fan, right? And he goes, yeah. And I

00:56:47.349 --> 00:56:49.809
go, I said, OK. I said, well, I got to get back

00:56:49.809 --> 00:56:51.590
to signing. And I said, and I'm still trying

00:56:51.590 --> 00:56:53.409
to process it. I'm like, come meet me at the

00:56:53.409 --> 00:56:55.869
thing. And he goes, he goes, like that? Like,

00:56:55.949 --> 00:56:58.849
come on. Like, fucking do it. And I'm like, so

00:56:58.849 --> 00:57:00.989
I did the line. I was, I went, stop, bitches.

00:57:01.230 --> 00:57:05.250
And then he went, ah. And I said, you wanted

00:57:05.250 --> 00:57:07.710
to do that while I was peeing? Like, I had to

00:57:07.710 --> 00:57:11.579
say it, you know? Like, if this is your thing,

00:57:11.659 --> 00:57:13.440
you know, you might go to jail. It might have

00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.239
been a ritual for him to go to the restroom,

00:57:15.300 --> 00:57:19.039
bro. You know what? He picked his moment. It

00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.190
wasn't great. It wasn't a great shot, man. He

00:57:22.190 --> 00:57:24.349
didn't get tased. I mean, it was a good day.

00:57:24.409 --> 00:57:26.510
It was a good day. It was a good day for him.

00:57:26.949 --> 00:57:29.550
Yeah. I mean, I'd like to hear that dude tell

00:57:29.550 --> 00:57:32.690
that story from his perspective. He's alone in

00:57:32.690 --> 00:57:36.250
the bathroom. No, you don't want to hear that.

00:57:36.530 --> 00:57:38.889
No. He was in the bathroom. Dude, here he was,

00:57:38.929 --> 00:57:40.829
like, doing this. I just walked up there. I went

00:57:40.829 --> 00:57:43.550
for it. I took my shot. We're best friends. We're

00:57:43.550 --> 00:57:46.969
best friends. I knew he couldn't get away. No,

00:57:47.210 --> 00:57:49.289
he took his hand. He can't get away. And I told

00:57:49.289 --> 00:57:53.110
him, why does it only go to 13? So I'm like...

00:57:53.110 --> 00:57:58.889
Hey, dude. Hey. Come here. Come here. Come here.

00:57:59.349 --> 00:58:01.730
First things first, I want to say, first of all,

00:58:01.929 --> 00:58:04.190
thank you for joining us on the podcast, man.

00:58:04.190 --> 00:58:05.530
I know you're a very big... Oh, that's right.

00:58:05.530 --> 00:58:07.369
Any social medias that you have that you want

00:58:07.369 --> 00:58:11.010
to... Yeah. My socials, I think you guys were

00:58:11.010 --> 00:58:14.449
linking me up there, but real Carlos Ferro on

00:58:14.449 --> 00:58:17.079
Instagram. Not the real, just real Carlos Ferro

00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:20.460
on Instagram, real Carlos Ferro on Twitter, or

00:58:20.460 --> 00:58:25.219
X, whatever the fuck they want to call it. And

00:58:25.219 --> 00:58:30.280
Facebook, just Carlos Ferro. But, you know, everybody's,

00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:32.579
I mean, justifiably so, everybody's kind of abandoning

00:58:32.579 --> 00:58:35.380
social media, you know, to like do shit. But

00:58:35.380 --> 00:58:37.820
but um, which I think is healthy man, you know

00:58:37.820 --> 00:58:40.420
what I mean? Like like, yeah, yeah, there's I

00:58:40.420 --> 00:58:43.460
think this is nice to have a split of real life

00:58:43.460 --> 00:58:47.280
versus online Excuse me not to old fog yet, but

00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:49.960
it's just that these days It's getting harder

00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:53.440
to be you know online, you know, and and everybody's

00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.599
got their their gloves on man fisty It's very

00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:57.940
that was why I make those jokes. It's like, you

00:58:57.940 --> 00:59:00.480
know, you you go on somewhere to be like, you

00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:03.869
know Check this out and anything. I mean, seeing

00:59:03.869 --> 00:59:06.030
what you guys are into. If you say, oh, yeah,

00:59:06.030 --> 00:59:07.710
we got this picture of, you know, Charlie Brown,

00:59:07.769 --> 00:59:09.550
but it's not Charlie Brown. He's got like this

00:59:09.550 --> 00:59:12.110
beard. And then they're like, they'll immediately

00:59:12.110 --> 00:59:18.909
be like, pussy. And you're like, how do you make

00:59:18.909 --> 00:59:23.170
that jump, right? He goes, that's me! Believe

00:59:23.170 --> 00:59:25.389
me! I said, how do you make that jump, you know

00:59:25.389 --> 00:59:27.030
what I mean, when someone insults you? When you

00:59:27.030 --> 00:59:29.269
were just going like, man, you know, I think

00:59:29.269 --> 00:59:32.949
Spider -Man into the whatever, Spider -Verse

00:59:32.949 --> 00:59:35.469
was fucking awesome. And everybody's like, you

00:59:35.469 --> 00:59:38.309
know, yeah, where are your panties? And you're

00:59:38.309 --> 00:59:45.090
like, what the what? I mean, by the way, these

00:59:45.090 --> 00:59:48.170
examples I'm giving, I've seen, man. I've seen

00:59:48.170 --> 00:59:51.389
people that say that, I mean, I'm thinking, no

00:59:51.389 --> 00:59:55.230
one, no one could talk shit about, I'll pick

00:59:55.230 --> 00:59:57.329
something, you know, Star Wars or Star Trek,

00:59:57.590 --> 01:00:00.050
that it's just like, it was cool, something cool

01:00:00.050 --> 01:00:04.409
from sci -fi. And somebody will like, you can

01:00:04.409 --> 01:00:07.050
see that they must spend most of their day just

01:00:07.050 --> 01:00:09.199
waiting to fuck with people. You know what I

01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:13.579
mean? And not for nothing, it was, I swear, man,

01:00:13.940 --> 01:00:15.420
it wasn't always like that. And I think you guys

01:00:15.420 --> 01:00:16.920
are old enough to remember, it wasn't always

01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:20.760
like that. The internet was, I mean, this is

01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:24.320
definitely me on a soapbox as an old man. The

01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:28.059
internet was actually, at one time, the opposite.

01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:33.449
It wasn't about... a stage to fight on, which

01:00:33.449 --> 01:00:37.050
is what it is now. Everything is a debate and

01:00:37.050 --> 01:00:39.510
an argument, right? Everything, whether you win

01:00:39.510 --> 01:00:42.670
or lose or come out kind of not as beat up and

01:00:42.670 --> 01:00:46.010
all that. It used to be about finding your people.

01:00:46.329 --> 01:00:48.869
The internet was always about finding community

01:00:48.869 --> 01:00:52.530
from those fucked up angel fire websites to AOL

01:00:52.530 --> 01:00:55.969
to news groups. The reason everybody was congregating

01:00:55.969 --> 01:00:58.329
is that you were not the only motherfucker that

01:00:58.329 --> 01:01:00.090
wanted to plan the Apes action figure from the

01:01:00.090 --> 01:01:02.889
70s. Somebody in Florida had one, and they'd

01:01:02.889 --> 01:01:05.530
sell it to you if you give him his Superman action

01:01:05.530 --> 01:01:09.230
figure, you know what I mean? And if you're into

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sketchy, weird shit, you'd find those people,

01:01:12.269 --> 01:01:14.250
you know what I mean? And you guys could have

01:01:14.250 --> 01:01:18.010
a group called sketchy, weird -ass people. And

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by the way, nobody would fuck with them, you

01:01:20.190 --> 01:01:21.409
know what I mean? And nobody would fuck with

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anybody. It was cool. It was cool. And so it's

01:01:25.130 --> 01:01:28.150
like, oh, I say this about cons, actually. It's

01:01:28.150 --> 01:01:31.309
being a victim of your own success is that it

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gets so commonplace and so great so quickly that

01:01:35.409 --> 01:01:37.849
it's bound to get torn down and fucked up by

01:01:37.849 --> 01:01:40.869
people, you know? Right. Right. We're great and

01:01:40.869 --> 01:01:42.610
all, but we ain't that great always, you know?

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It's fine until, you know, a weirdo approaches

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you in the bathroom. In the bathroom. I agree.

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That's going to be my T -shirt. to promote anything

01:01:53.139 --> 01:01:55.360
I work on now. It's all playing games until they

01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:58.320
stand next to you in a urinal. Put a urinal in

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the back. Put some bitch in the back and I'll

01:02:00.380 --> 01:02:04.679
be fine. Mr. Ferrell, thank you so much for coming

01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:06.699
on the broadcast, man. This was a lot of fun,

01:02:06.739 --> 01:02:09.139
guys. Thank you for having me on. And love and

01:02:09.139 --> 01:02:12.199
respect to, you know, Harlingen, McAllen, Farr,

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fuck even Brownsville. I ended up, because of

01:02:15.780 --> 01:02:18.780
the weather, I got stuck in the region just a

01:02:18.780 --> 01:02:22.739
few weeks ago. Yeah, so I saw like two more towns

01:02:22.739 --> 01:02:26.300
I had never seen because I couldn't fly out of

01:02:26.300 --> 01:02:30.340
Macallan. But it was cool, man. Depending what

01:02:30.340 --> 01:02:34.760
you're into. And this is an endorsement, guys.

01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.000
Don't get it twisted. You can get into some real

01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:43.800
trouble in the RGV. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's my

01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.630
biggest endorsement. Nobody said to me somebody

01:02:47.630 --> 01:02:49.809
said to me. This is a real conversation. I had

01:02:49.809 --> 01:02:51.809
somebody the last time I was there's a few weeks

01:02:51.809 --> 01:02:53.309
ago This was not long ago. It's like maybe a

01:02:53.309 --> 01:02:56.329
month ago. I wrote McCallan and somebody said

01:02:56.329 --> 01:03:02.230
to me at the flux shout out to the flux So so

01:03:02.230 --> 01:03:05.030
I'm at the flux and I said to somebody that I

01:03:05.030 --> 01:03:06.829
was gonna go to these bars that I've gone to

01:03:06.829 --> 01:03:09.969
before to these like small deep night night club

01:03:09.969 --> 01:03:13.739
not like clubby club just like a DJ bar and I

01:03:13.739 --> 01:03:17.739
was talking about the ratios and shit and just

01:03:17.739 --> 01:03:20.880
how fun it is, essentially. I was bringing it

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up. And the person I was talking to that was

01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:26.519
in line said to me, oh, no, I don't go there.

01:03:26.780 --> 01:03:28.440
I don't go there. I go, did you used to? And

01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.440
he goes, no, not really. And he goes, and I don't

01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:36.280
think you should either. And by the way, I just

01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.809
said. I just said I liked going to this place.

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And the person goes, no, I wouldn't go down there.

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And I said, why? And I thought the answer was

01:03:46.130 --> 01:03:48.070
chef's kiss. He said, because you're going to

01:03:48.070 --> 01:03:54.369
get shot. Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah. And I was like,

01:03:55.269 --> 01:03:57.429
really? I don't think so, man. And he goes, no.

01:03:57.449 --> 01:04:00.170
And then somebody else goes, yeah, man, my friend

01:04:00.170 --> 01:04:04.449
got shot. And I was like, OK, first of all, relax.

01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:09.820
Okay, relax. And they said, no, it's dangerous.

01:04:10.179 --> 01:04:12.780
And then I said, and this is a weird way to end

01:04:12.780 --> 01:04:16.039
the podcast, but it's funny. I said, when I was

01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:20.400
your age, swear to God, I went full viejo fucking

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:24.300
negro, you know? I got all OG immediately. I

01:04:24.300 --> 01:04:27.360
said, when I was your age, I signed up for danger,

01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:31.860
motherfucker, shit! Like, what do you mean is

01:04:31.860 --> 01:04:43.829
dangerous? What the fuck? And then and then and

01:04:43.829 --> 01:04:46.250
then you know what he said didn't go to it goes

01:04:46.250 --> 01:04:58.550
only to 13 Once again, thank you so much, man.

01:04:58.969 --> 01:05:01.449
Thank you for your time, man. I appreciate you.

01:05:01.570 --> 01:05:04.590
Hopefully we can do this again later. All right,

01:05:04.710 --> 01:05:07.019
man. And when everything's said and done and

01:05:07.019 --> 01:05:09.840
up on Xbox running, hint, hint, hopefully, and

01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:11.639
we can have a full disclosure from you and see

01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:14.260
what happened, what do you think of the game

01:05:14.260 --> 01:05:16.019
and everything, buddy? Or if you just want to

01:05:16.019 --> 01:05:17.380
come back and talk. If you want to come back

01:05:17.380 --> 01:05:19.000
and talk and talk about all that. I appreciate

01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.199
that. When you were making that statement, I

01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:23.739
swear I thought the comedian in me wanted to

01:05:23.739 --> 01:05:28.460
push leave on the... You said it! You said it!

01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:31.440
You'd be like, and so you want to come back and

01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:35.070
have full disclosure? Black screen. All right,

01:05:35.449 --> 01:05:37.469
guys. I'm out. Thank you. Thank you, man. We

01:05:37.469 --> 01:05:38.769
appreciate you. Bye -bye. Have a good night.

01:05:38.829 --> 01:05:43.250
Oh, my gosh, guys. What an episode. That is awesome,

01:05:43.449 --> 01:05:47.210
Mr. Carlos Soto. Wow. Wow. Quez got an ass. An

01:05:47.210 --> 01:05:52.809
ass whooping that it only goes to 13. Quez, you

01:05:52.809 --> 01:05:54.909
are now up there with that guy from the bathroom,

01:05:55.030 --> 01:06:06.050
dude. Congratulations. You're number two. Ladies

01:06:06.050 --> 01:06:09.349
and gentlemen, thank you so much for tuning in

01:06:09.349 --> 01:06:12.369
to this episode. What a great episode, man. Fantastic

01:06:12.369 --> 01:06:14.849
episode. That was amazing. For the sponsors,

01:06:14.949 --> 01:06:16.630
I will have everything up and running for you

01:06:16.630 --> 01:06:19.289
guys during the episode. I'll have all the information

01:06:19.289 --> 01:06:21.769
up there for later on when I go back and edit

01:06:21.769 --> 01:06:23.929
everything. So don't worry. You guys will be

01:06:23.929 --> 01:06:30.980
on the podcast. Episode 201, 202. 202. 202. And

01:06:30.980 --> 01:06:33.980
have him on your... What an episode. What an

01:06:33.980 --> 01:06:35.360
episode. It was awesome, man. Fuck yeah. That

01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:37.800
was awesome. Talk to actual Dom on the tune.

01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:41.679
God damn level 13. Let it go. It only goes to

01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:45.059
13. I'm telling the truth. Wave 13. Is it because

01:06:45.059 --> 01:06:47.840
I'm playing easy? Guys, thank you for tuning

01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:57.880
in. We'll see you next week. What do you want

01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.199
me to say? Say the line! Alright guys, we'll

01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.860
see you next week on Tuesday. That was our next

01:07:02.860 --> 01:07:06.099
episode. You will see us on here. And like always

01:07:06.099 --> 01:07:10.619
guys. Ready? Yeah. 3, 2, 1. Ladies skaters! Peace

01:07:10.619 --> 01:07:11.219
out guys!
