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It's for Mother's Day. By the way, buddy, well

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done. Thank you. We have Mother's Day episodes.

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I hope you guys enjoyed that one. But we've been

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itching all week. This was the interview that

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we've been. Not because he hasn't took a shower,

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but we've been itching all week. That's besides

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the point. But, oh, and also we can't forget

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Mr. Quez on the other side right over there was

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going on. Quez over there to help us out with

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the comments today. Wake up, dude. It's show

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time. We're live now. Live. That's a lot of excitement.

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All right. So guys, we have a special guest with

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us today. Very special guest. Oh my gosh. We've

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been so excited for this. We've been anticipating

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it for the last couple of weeks. And it's just

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the cool thing is that. I reached out to him

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and he answered right away. It was kind of a

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it was it was kind of embarrassing because I

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put the wrong name when I did research of accident.

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Maybe you shouldn't be telling this. I shouldn't

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be telling this story. I mean, here we are anyway.

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But ladies and gentlemen, without further ado,

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ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce to you

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guys, Mr. Gary Chalk. Ladies and gentlemen, how's

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it going? It's going very well. Thank you. I'm

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I'm up here in my my man cave My place of my

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place of seclusion where I do my work and and

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play music and Just basically get away from everybody

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We could see that you were jamming out to the

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very beginning of our intro. Oh, yeah, I got

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my pianos right here. I don't know if you can

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see it, but there it is right there. No, what

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happened was I got booted out of my studio. Oh,

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OK. Downstairs on the ground floor. OK, understandable.

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Well, my kids moved in. Okay, and they needed

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a place to live and so they Got my studio I had

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to move upstairs Right, but there was nowhere

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for me to go because my wife's office is right

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there and it's too noisy if I'm playing music

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and doing right, right so we bought a greenhouse

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We put it on the the roof deck of our house.

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I have a roof deck Okay, you can see it, but

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that's that's back there. Anyway, I have a roof

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deck there. Okay, and and I closed it in and

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give some baffles and whatnot and got all my

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music and my Recording stuff up here. There you

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go. There you go. And I've got this this This

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greenhouse, it's made funnily enough. It's made

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in Israel and It's strong. It's withstood 50

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mile an hour winds up here and has no problems

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and it's dry and that I just I Love it. I I'd

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never want to part with it Okay Just thinking

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out loud transformed It will not engage. I've

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been up here for two years now, man. I love it.

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Oh, that's fantastic. That's awesome. It's great

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when you're able to pivot successfully, especially

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when you make sacrifices for your family. That's

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true. That's true. That's the important thing.

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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. They try and move

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in here. That's it. Oh, no. The gloves are off.

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The gloves are off. I don't blame you. I don't

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blame you. So let's start from the beginning,

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Mr. Chalk. Tell us a little bit about where you

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grew up and how we got into voice acting in the

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area you're in now. Wow. Okay. Well, okay. Kick

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back a little bit and have a listen. Yeah. Oh,

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we're ready to go. Yeah. I was born in the UK.

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I was born in a place called Southampton in England

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and I Immigrated with my family here in 1957

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out to Vancouver and We were on a plane load

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of Hungarian refugees who were coming from Hungary

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after the revolution in Hungary Okay, and we

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flew from London to I think our first stop was

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Iceland We went to Iceland, we went to Gander,

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and we hung out at Gander for a little bit, and

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then we flew to Toronto and then to Vancouver.

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It took about three days for us to get here.

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We were on this plane. I think it's called a

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Constellation. It had three tail fins. It was

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quite an adventure. I'd never been on an airplane

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before, so that was really something. So we came

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here to Canada. I've been living in Vancouver

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basically ever since I had a two -year stint

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in Toronto or in Ottawa for a while and That's

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how that's how I grew up as far as I you know

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I've lived here. I've got the high school little

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little unknown thing I went to 15 Different schools

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from grade one to grade 12 Wow, and I was never

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a bad guy. There you go figure that out. No,

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I just My parents just kept moving around and

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moving around I guess they were looking for the

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right neighborhood and I don't know but right

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right I learned how to make friends fast That's

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awesome and learned a lot about about the city

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because I was all over the city and And as far

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as being theatrical, I was always a singer. I

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sang since I was a kid. I did my first appearance

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on television at the age of 12, singing on Ron

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Moriarty's Saturday kids party. And it was a

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lot of fun. And sang Christmas carols with the

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choir. That was my first thing. And I didn't

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think much more of it. I loved to sing and I

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was always participating in things like that.

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But I never thought about theater or working

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as an actor until I got into high school. And

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a friend of mine, Keith, he tried to talk me

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into doing this musical play that they were doing

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on at the theater, at the school. And I said,

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I don't think so. doing a play because that was

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a bit of a grease ball then. East side guy. I'm

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not doing a play. Yeah, come on. I mean, that's

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just sort of weird, man. That's not what I like.

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He goes like this. The chicks love us. That's

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all it took. That's all it took. Really? And

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he goes, dude Come on So I said okay. I'll do

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this and I ended up playing in this play called

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the boyfriend which was fantastic and I made

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a lot of people laugh I got hooked on making

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people laugh and that was really fun and of course

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there were always the chicks But that's politically

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incorrect today the the the the females, the

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women. They were very, very nice, and I quite

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enjoyed them. I mean, just their company, just

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their company. Because I was in high school,

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after all. I was in high school, after all. I

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wasn't quite yet a walking hormone with feet.

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Anyway. But I always thought it was just for

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fun right right and um so I I did I did about

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three or four different musicals and then I went

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into work in the real world when I finished high

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school and did work as a stock trader at the

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stock exchange and a phone boy and a board marker

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and then I worked in social services that I worked

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in restaurants as a waiter and a cook and all

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these different things and I had a sort of an

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epiphany, and I got really sick with some kind

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of a stomach thing. And I ended up in hospital

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for like, oh, I don't know, 10 days or so. And

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while I was in the hospital, I was thinking about

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my life. And I went, you know what? This is crap.

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I'm going to do something else. So I decided

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I was going to go to university. I went to university

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or college because I wanted to be an English

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teacher. Anthropology teacher because I love

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anthropology. Okay, so I did that and I excelled

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at those those things But one of my projects

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for English was to go and do a review of a play

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Okay, so I reviewed this play called of my son

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man. That was at Langara Little plug Langara

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College and it was a play at the at the school

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and I went and watched this play and I was completely

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blown away I mean, I mean literally they the

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the production values the acting the it was just

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fantastic. I just loved it. I thought This is

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what I want to do and So I I I said okay, and

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I abandoned my studies and went down to the theater

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department since I'd like to audition for this

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And so I got an audition. I went and I did my

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thing. I sang a song, I did a play, or I did

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a monologue or a couple of things like that.

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And the head of the department was an old English

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fellow named Anjani. He's reading a newspaper,

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and he's sitting there reading the paper, and

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he's looking up and he goes, you've got some

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talent, not much, but some. All right, off you

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go. I thought I'm doomed. I'm not going to get

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in. So I guess I can go back to being an English

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teacher. So no, but then I got a letter saying

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I'd been accepted into the school. Now they only

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take 15 students per term from across the country.

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Like, wow. Well, shit, now I've committed. Right

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now I got to commit. I went and learned everything

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I did the dance and the mime and the voice and

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singing and acting and text analysis Stagecraft

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and all these things 12 hours a day fully committed

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everything that I had into doing this stuff for

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two years and on my term off I would get like

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it would work one term on one term off one term

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on one term off and so on I would work I worked

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two jobs and I worked seven days a week It's

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that would be like 16 hours a day for five days

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and then What do you call them eight hours for

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two days? And and what I did is I took the daytime

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job and that paid for my school and the nighttime

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job paid for me living and So I I did that and

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I graduated from the theater school With of the

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15 only I think three or four of us only graduated

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And only two of us were actors. I think no three

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of us were actors Who are still doing it? My

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friend Gordon who was my sort of rehearsal partner

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in school is now the top for the Cirque du Soleil,

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you know Cirque du Soleil? He travels around

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the world, he's Mr. Super Clown on Cirque du

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Soleil. Gordy White, he's just the best, the

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funniest guy. He walks on stage, you start laughing,

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he doesn't have to do anything. You just start

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laughing. Shout out to him, man, that'd be awesome.

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No, it's so good, and my first gig... Was a What

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was a show called jockbrows alive and well living

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in Paris and that was still at the university

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But it's the first show they held over till after

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we finished school. So they had to pay us, right?

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Oh, they paid us and I went I'm getting paid

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to do this. This is amazing So I went got my

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first professional show which was a thing called

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loot which he toured across Canada with And I

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had a very small part. I was also a stagehand

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and the stagehand and small part, but I Was just

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wired and that's how it's gone. Now my first

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voiceover gig Was a thing called Hiawatha can

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actually find it on YouTube. It's where I want

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the 1983 and I'd never done an animation cartoon

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before and my agent in Ottawa Because I had to

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get seconded out there with my wife for a couple

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of years, right? She said go and try them. See

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if you can do this cartoon thing I've never done

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the cartoon, but I love the voices. I love doing

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that Yeah, and she says yeah, we'll go and try

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so it was called Hiawatha So I went and I auditioned

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for Hiawatha and Hiawatha dad and a villain and

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a couple other things I ended up getting four

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voices in this cartoon including Hiawatha There

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you go. And I went well, this is great So I you

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know come up with these different voices for

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the you know Hi, would you key was you can't

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do this and they did different voices like that

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and I got my check What oh well, this is this

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is good So I I pursued that and I ended up doing

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a bunch of things and I Was bad venturing into

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doing commercials, right? Commercial voice and

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I went and this is a great silly story. I went

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did this commercial voice for a Company in Ottawa

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and it was for the Ottawa citizen And I said,

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the Ottawa citizen for the latest and greatest

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in arts, news, and entertainment, and sports,

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and all that. And did the ad. And they said,

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we don't like it. Oh, wow. OK. What do you mean?

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Well, you don't sound like our guy. And I said,

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well, what is your? Well, that's OK. You're fired.

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And I got fired. Oh, my gosh. I've never been

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fired from anything. Wow. Wow, this is a weird,

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weird feeling. So I went to the, the, uh, boss

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of the, of the studio where I recorded this.

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And he said, it's not your fault. You didn't

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know. And I said, I'll tell you what, if you

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show me what to do, how to do this stuff and

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make a good demo, I will do your next spot for

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free. And he says, deal. So he taught me about,

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you know, the latest in news, entertainment and

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sports, where, you know, that kind of thing.

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Or remember last year running around in the last

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minute looking for the right Christmas gift,

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you know, that read or the man in the street.

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Hey, listen, I got, I got something I want to

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sell you. And he'd tell me all these different

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kinds of reads, you know. for different products

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and who, what, where, why, and how much and where,

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you know, and where. And, um, so he showed me

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all that and we made a demo reel and it was a

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great demo reel. And true to my word, I did a,

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his commercial for free and it was for revenue

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Canada. Oh, okay. All right. So that was about

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that. At that time would probably, I'd probably

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been paid about. $300, maybe $400. That worked.

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Well, that demo, that demo made me thousands,

00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:17.420
millions, maybe. Wow. So I thought I could have,

00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:19.059
I could have walked away and said, I'll never

00:18:19.059 --> 00:18:22.539
do this again. Right. But what I did is I went

00:18:22.539 --> 00:18:25.099
to the guy and I said, Show me how to do this

00:18:25.099 --> 00:18:27.839
and because I want to do this right and I became

00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:31.000
a prolific voiceover guy I did lots of things

00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.140
my a lot of things for the United States like

00:18:34.140 --> 00:18:36.519
Dollar General stores with their everyday low

00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:46.779
price hours, you know Did all these commercials

00:18:46.779 --> 00:18:51.869
and It was it was quite something you know to

00:18:51.869 --> 00:18:55.630
to carry on with that career, and then I guess

00:18:55.630 --> 00:19:02.589
it was late around 1987 that I did my very first

00:19:02.589 --> 00:19:10.190
cartoon in Vancouver, and I think it was Captain

00:19:10.190 --> 00:19:20.099
Nintendo Yeah, and I played this character called

00:19:20.099 --> 00:19:32.000
King Hippo. I thought, well, this is great. But

00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:33.880
the first two that I auditioned for, I didn't

00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:36.779
get. And why not? They were great voices. Why

00:19:36.779 --> 00:19:39.440
not? But then I'd listen to them and I would

00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:41.200
listen to a bunch of cartoons. I listened to

00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.319
different voices that played with different voices.

00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:45.779
And I ended up getting all these shows, one after

00:19:45.779 --> 00:19:49.039
the other, Beanie and Cecil, G .I. Joe, He -Man,

00:19:49.299 --> 00:19:53.839
Master of the Universe. Oh, my God. 50 for Salty's

00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:56.420
Playhouse. All these just one after the other,

00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.319
like tons of them every day. I was working every

00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:02.059
day and I'm going, this is amazing. This is amazing.

00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:04.880
But at the same time, I was doing my film and

00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:08.880
television career. Wow. But that's basically

00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:13.319
what, what it is, is persistence. Right. No,

00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:16.160
you go around. I just went around to all these

00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:18.440
different students for commercials. I kept bugging

00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.359
them until they said, okay, for Christ's sake,

00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:24.920
I'm going to do an ad. We'll let you do an ad.

00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:32.799
I was doing an ad for Ikea. Remember them? Yes.

00:20:33.339 --> 00:20:38.089
Ikea. And I did this, this ad called death defying

00:20:38.089 --> 00:20:40.569
plants when even your favorite deep and bucket

00:20:40.569 --> 00:20:43.390
is pushing up the daisies. Anyway, it won an

00:20:43.390 --> 00:20:48.289
award. So they went, oh, okay. Well, okay. Then

00:20:48.289 --> 00:20:52.269
we'll hire you. And so they hired me and I, I

00:20:52.269 --> 00:20:56.890
literally worked every day, uh, doing commercials

00:20:56.890 --> 00:20:59.809
and cartoons combination. How I got film stuck

00:20:59.809 --> 00:21:02.369
in there, I'll never know. But I ended up doing

00:21:02.369 --> 00:21:05.069
a lot of film and television as well. And the

00:21:05.069 --> 00:21:08.970
rest, as they say, is history. There you go.

00:21:09.670 --> 00:21:12.190
Yeah, we're chewing out. We're going over the

00:21:12.190 --> 00:21:18.670
back story. You also did one of 2003, Freddy

00:21:18.670 --> 00:21:21.690
vs. Jason. You came out. Oh, yeah, I did Freddy

00:21:21.690 --> 00:21:28.170
and Jason. I killed. I killed Freddy. That was

00:21:28.170 --> 00:21:31.329
my, I was the sheriff. My claim was the sheriff

00:21:31.329 --> 00:21:34.289
killed Freddie or made Freddie what he is today.

00:21:34.890 --> 00:21:37.670
Also came out on MacGyver, which is one of the,

00:21:37.670 --> 00:21:39.470
one of my, one of my favorite shows back growing

00:21:39.470 --> 00:21:42.190
up. Original MacGyver, original MacGyver, original

00:21:42.190 --> 00:21:46.690
MacGyver did a few of those. Yeah. And also Highlander,

00:21:46.910 --> 00:21:50.690
the series did a few of those. Wow, man. That's,

00:21:50.690 --> 00:21:53.049
that's amazing. But you know that Highlander,

00:21:53.069 --> 00:21:56.210
here's a funny story about Highlander. I did

00:21:56.210 --> 00:22:00.470
a lot more episodes than are on there. Because

00:22:00.470 --> 00:22:03.710
when they were filming in France in the latter

00:22:03.710 --> 00:22:05.710
seasons, they were filming all their stuff in

00:22:05.710 --> 00:22:10.670
France. And a lot of the French actors had notoriously

00:22:10.670 --> 00:22:15.970
bad English accents. So you can understand them.

00:22:17.309 --> 00:22:22.950
So I went in and I would voice, re -voice some

00:22:22.950 --> 00:22:27.940
of the French actors. And the most famous one

00:22:27.940 --> 00:22:30.240
or one you'll ever I don't know if you ever see

00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:35.140
it was it was a trial of it was the trial of

00:22:35.140 --> 00:22:41.160
Highlander I think and I I got a call from the

00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:44.119
producers and they said you can you can you match

00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:48.299
this voice and I said I don't know and then I

00:22:48.299 --> 00:22:51.759
took it home and I took a videotape And I started

00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:53.720
playing with him, playing with him, playing with

00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:56.279
him. I think I got it. Let me just have a look.

00:22:56.500 --> 00:23:01.579
I think, yeah, I think I can do that. And so

00:23:01.579 --> 00:23:09.039
I went in and I did only half of the guy's dialogue

00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:13.759
in the show. And what happened was, and I was

00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:15.359
afraid, I was afraid it didn't sound like him,

00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:20.420
but apparently I did. what happened to the guy

00:23:20.420 --> 00:23:24.140
is the guy had open -heart surgery, who was the

00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:28.940
real actor, and he could not do the looping,

00:23:28.940 --> 00:23:32.400
the re -recording of his dialogue in the show.

00:23:33.779 --> 00:23:40.180
So they called me in to re -voice half of the

00:23:40.180 --> 00:23:45.700
dialogue. And I watched the show, I can't tell.

00:23:48.690 --> 00:23:51.250
And I thought it was amazing. And when I watched

00:23:51.250 --> 00:23:54.549
the show, I went, hey, that's pretty good. So

00:23:54.549 --> 00:23:57.789
half the dialogue is him in the show, in the

00:23:57.789 --> 00:24:01.150
MacGyver. Half is him. Sorry, Highlander. Half

00:24:01.150 --> 00:24:05.349
is me. Right. Wow. OK. That's amazing, man. And

00:24:05.349 --> 00:24:09.910
you and I were going over your stats here. And

00:24:09.910 --> 00:24:11.630
we also saw that you were the original Man in

00:24:11.630 --> 00:24:15.410
Arms. Yes. Yeah, well, I wasn't the original

00:24:15.410 --> 00:24:18.509
Man at Arms. I came along second time. Okay.

00:24:19.869 --> 00:24:28.730
Because I'm too old to play He -Man. It hurt

00:24:28.730 --> 00:24:32.950
me. It hurt you inside. Yeah, I know. I had a

00:24:32.950 --> 00:24:37.309
lot of fun with Man at Arms. He was great. He

00:24:37.309 --> 00:24:41.150
was an iconic character, but I mean. Just building

00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:45.309
on what you said, how do you process that? They

00:24:45.309 --> 00:24:48.250
tell you you're too old to play He -Man. I mean,

00:24:48.390 --> 00:24:51.869
granted, the guy who did He -Man sounded kind

00:24:51.869 --> 00:24:53.809
of... Well, because He -Man played two characters.

00:24:53.890 --> 00:24:58.710
He played Adam, who was a young man. And he also

00:24:58.710 --> 00:25:01.670
played He -Man, who was, by the power of Grayskull.

00:25:02.109 --> 00:25:07.970
By the power. But the guy they got was a guy

00:25:07.970 --> 00:25:17.039
named... Clark. What's his name? Something Clark.

00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:23.319
I can't, it's been so long. Cam Clark, that's

00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:28.279
who it was. Cam Clark. And so Cam Clark could

00:25:28.279 --> 00:25:31.059
do that voice, but he could also play a very

00:25:31.059 --> 00:25:34.920
young man. And so he played the two parts. Whereas,

00:25:35.140 --> 00:25:38.000
you know when I did he man 20 years ago or where

00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:47.920
however long it was 27 Let's not anyway They

00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.200
gave me mounted arms and that was that was wonderful

00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.900
so I ended up doing that and I love that new

00:25:53.900 --> 00:25:57.819
iteration it was Great music great story and

00:25:57.819 --> 00:26:02.740
the great animation. It was right now Going forward

00:26:02.740 --> 00:26:06.400
to the most iconic one was, uh, Optimus Prime

00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:13.440
himself. Optimus Prime and Prime and Optimal

00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.839
and yeah, I did, uh, I did those guys. How did

00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:19.700
we, how did we come about you coming up to do

00:26:19.700 --> 00:26:22.440
those ones? Would you called up or did you, uh,

00:26:22.500 --> 00:26:27.220
go ahead and, uh, I auditioned for, for that.

00:26:27.609 --> 00:26:30.849
And, um, it was quite the process. I auditioned

00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.529
about two or three times and they narrowed it

00:26:33.529 --> 00:26:36.410
down and narrowed it down. And it came between

00:26:36.410 --> 00:26:42.869
me playing, uh, Megatron, uh, David K playing

00:26:42.869 --> 00:26:47.049
optimist primal. Okay. And then they decided

00:26:47.049 --> 00:26:50.430
that I would be a much better optimist primal

00:26:50.430 --> 00:26:53.910
than a Megatron. But I actually did play Megatron

00:26:53.910 --> 00:26:59.170
once. In the Unicron trilogy, I think, I'm not

00:26:59.170 --> 00:27:02.609
sure. I know that I did, but I just don't remember.

00:27:03.190 --> 00:27:09.390
So they made me Optimus Primal. So I thought

00:27:09.390 --> 00:27:12.529
that was cool. I really didn't have much of a

00:27:12.529 --> 00:27:15.029
history with the Transformers. I did the commercials,

00:27:15.029 --> 00:27:19.769
I think, back in the 80s. I did some criminal

00:27:19.769 --> 00:27:24.130
Transformers Generation 2 with Jetfire. Go. And

00:27:24.130 --> 00:27:26.309
I remember those. But that's all I remember.

00:27:26.750 --> 00:27:29.130
I knew nothing about the toys or anything. So

00:27:29.130 --> 00:27:30.829
I guess it was in a great place, because I could

00:27:30.829 --> 00:27:36.730
just play me. Just be the character. They really

00:27:36.730 --> 00:27:40.109
liked that. And I didn't think anything of it.

00:27:40.150 --> 00:27:41.829
I just went, oh, great, another cartoon. And

00:27:41.829 --> 00:27:43.769
I'd been working with cartoons all the time at

00:27:43.769 --> 00:27:49.089
that time. Had no idea and then we they brought

00:27:49.089 --> 00:27:54.029
the cast down to Los Angeles for a Transformers

00:27:54.029 --> 00:27:58.509
convention in Anaheim, I think it was oh my goodness

00:27:58.509 --> 00:28:03.470
and So I thought oh great thing I've never been

00:28:03.470 --> 00:28:05.190
to a convention before I didn't know what to

00:28:05.190 --> 00:28:11.089
expect and I went down there and the Organizer

00:28:11.089 --> 00:28:15.099
brought me into this auditorium And there were

00:28:15.099 --> 00:28:18.180
these three women sitting there at a table on

00:28:18.180 --> 00:28:21.799
off to our right. And they said, Hey gang, this

00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.619
is Optimus Primal. And I don't know if you've

00:28:24.619 --> 00:28:27.480
ever, you've seen galaxy quest, the movie. Yes.

00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.619
Never would Tim Allen walks into the, into the

00:28:30.619 --> 00:28:38.619
convention and all the girls go, Oh yeah. That's

00:28:38.619 --> 00:28:48.769
exactly what happened. These girls. Okay, okay.

00:28:49.990 --> 00:28:52.170
Now there's probably, I don't know, maybe 1 ,000,

00:28:52.289 --> 00:28:57.329
1 ,200 people in this auditorium. And so they

00:28:57.329 --> 00:29:01.150
brought us up to the backstage and they went,

00:29:01.390 --> 00:29:04.690
ladies and gentlemen, the cast of Beast Wars.

00:29:05.130 --> 00:29:08.230
And we all walked up on stage and the place went

00:29:08.230 --> 00:29:12.730
absolutely insane. That's awesome. That's awesome.

00:29:12.730 --> 00:29:16.529
What the hell have we so bought into here? I

00:29:16.529 --> 00:29:19.029
went, oh, OK. But now this means I've got to

00:29:19.029 --> 00:29:25.049
live up to this. Which is great, because people

00:29:25.049 --> 00:29:27.450
were lined up for autographs and signing and

00:29:27.450 --> 00:29:30.549
taking pictures. And then we did somebody's script

00:29:30.549 --> 00:29:34.619
who did a Transformers script. Oh, wow. They

00:29:34.619 --> 00:29:36.880
were crying when they were doing it, when we

00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:38.519
were doing the script. They thought, this is

00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:40.420
the most amazing thing in my life. I can't believe

00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:44.759
this is happening. And I thought, well, that's

00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:50.500
good, good. And since then, the Transformers

00:29:50.500 --> 00:29:56.259
has brought me into England and over to the Czech

00:29:56.259 --> 00:30:03.839
Republic and then to America and Canada. and

00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:08.500
Australia, all these places. And I never realized

00:30:08.500 --> 00:30:11.500
what a big deal it was. If I didn't know what

00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:13.299
a big deal it was, I'd have probably screwed

00:30:13.299 --> 00:30:18.039
it up. Because I had tried really, really hard.

00:30:18.299 --> 00:30:21.519
But no, I just wanted to give a good performance.

00:30:21.579 --> 00:30:25.940
And that's what I did. And I have the distinction

00:30:25.940 --> 00:30:30.480
of being optimist or both optimists, the optimist

00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.000
primal and optimist prime. Yes. I have the distinction

00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.220
of being that character longer than any of the

00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:40.799
other guys. Right. Because I did it longer than

00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:46.079
Peter Cullen and Neil Kaplan and even David Kay

00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:52.380
and of course, Rock Perlman. Right. Yeah, Rock

00:30:52.380 --> 00:30:55.660
Perlman's right. Yeah. So I had that distinction.

00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.490
I was a bit... disappointed when I didn't get

00:30:59.490 --> 00:31:06.450
called to do Rise of the Beasts with him playing

00:31:06.450 --> 00:31:10.569
my part, Ron Perlman was playing my part. I created

00:31:10.569 --> 00:31:13.769
the part and I liked it and it was great fun.

00:31:14.670 --> 00:31:18.569
And the thing is... I really like Ron Broman.

00:31:18.829 --> 00:31:20.950
He's such a great guy. I don't know if you ever

00:31:20.950 --> 00:31:26.369
met him or interviewed him. Oh, he is the nicest

00:31:26.369 --> 00:31:30.650
guy in the world. And a great like when you look

00:31:30.650 --> 00:31:35.890
at me. Oh, he's so scary. That's scary. I played

00:31:35.890 --> 00:31:39.930
golf with him one day. Okay. Yeah, we were he

00:31:39.930 --> 00:31:43.490
was he was doing something in town. And so I

00:31:43.490 --> 00:31:46.500
I hooked up with him on the golf course and It

00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:50.140
was wonderful. He was just a marvelous guy so

00:31:50.140 --> 00:31:54.960
much fun. So I Said to people that I am disappointed,

00:31:55.420 --> 00:31:58.000
but you know what more power to the guy, you

00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.299
know, right, right, right I think it's a great

00:32:00.299 --> 00:32:04.940
thing for him and and I've already moved on to

00:32:04.940 --> 00:32:08.759
other things. I guess like I did a wonderful

00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:14.980
series that airs over in the UK and in in Scandinavia

00:32:15.450 --> 00:32:18.410
called Monster Loving Maniacs. There you go.

00:32:18.930 --> 00:32:21.690
That sounds interesting. Well, it is. You can

00:32:21.690 --> 00:32:25.730
see clips of it on YouTube. It's very funny.

00:32:26.910 --> 00:32:30.109
And I think I did 50 episodes of it. Oh, wow.

00:32:31.130 --> 00:32:32.970
So it's kind of cool. It's going to be around

00:32:32.970 --> 00:32:36.269
for a while. Yeah, it sounds like it. I know

00:32:36.269 --> 00:32:41.509
my son. He's a huge Sonic fan. He watches all

00:32:41.509 --> 00:32:43.930
the cartoons, Sonic cartoons and everything as

00:32:43.930 --> 00:32:47.589
much as possible. When I told him that we're

00:32:47.589 --> 00:32:52.829
going to have you on the podcast, he goes, Dad,

00:32:52.970 --> 00:32:56.269
you know who he is, right? I go, yeah, he's Optimus

00:32:56.269 --> 00:32:59.769
Prime. I know who you know, Dad. He's also, uh,

00:32:59.829 --> 00:33:03.630
uh, dr. Robotnik from the series and he goes

00:33:03.630 --> 00:33:05.490
and he goes not only that dad when he goes see

00:33:05.490 --> 00:33:08.430
sonic He came out also. He was there hot stream.

00:33:08.509 --> 00:33:12.650
I'm like really I go. Wow Yeah, I was in the

00:33:12.650 --> 00:33:17.690
movie So, yeah, so not only the doctor's pride

00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:20.349
he also does uh, you do play the villain also

00:33:20.349 --> 00:33:23.769
so yeah That was very cool. Did you see it? There

00:33:23.769 --> 00:33:26.349
was a scene in the uh, you know when we're chasing

00:33:26.349 --> 00:33:30.690
after uh chasing after the little blue guy, Sonic.

00:33:32.450 --> 00:33:35.150
And we've got to bring this guy in. He's known

00:33:35.150 --> 00:33:45.630
as the Doctor. But, you know, what happened with

00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:52.309
that is the new adventures of Sonic. I was playing

00:33:52.309 --> 00:33:56.210
Grounder and other characters. We were the henchmen.

00:34:00.150 --> 00:34:04.170
And a great pal of ours, Long John Baldry, who's

00:34:04.170 --> 00:34:09.150
a rock and roller, played Dr. Robotnik. And his

00:34:09.150 --> 00:34:13.889
voice was like this, I hate that hedgehog. Throw

00:34:13.889 --> 00:34:18.269
down, bring me a PsySonic. And I go, okay, well

00:34:18.269 --> 00:34:20.989
that's kind of cool. And that's what he said,

00:34:21.150 --> 00:34:24.150
that's his voice. That's what he sounded like.

00:34:24.429 --> 00:34:27.809
And I remember I used to drive him home after

00:34:27.809 --> 00:34:30.969
the show sometimes. He wanted to go downtown.

00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:37.369
If I went one half a mile over 30 miles an hour,

00:34:37.769 --> 00:34:45.289
he would go, oh. I'd go, what? Too fast. You're

00:34:45.289 --> 00:34:49.909
going too fast. Don't scare me. He'd say, no,

00:34:49.949 --> 00:34:56.829
you're going too fast. He was such a, it was

00:34:56.829 --> 00:34:59.449
such a gentleman, such a lovely man. He passed

00:34:59.449 --> 00:35:04.070
away a few years ago. So what happened was he

00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:07.530
was because he was a, he had his band. He's a

00:35:07.530 --> 00:35:09.489
famous rock and roller and he was touring all

00:35:09.489 --> 00:35:14.909
over Europe. So he couldn't do, um, Sonic. And

00:35:14.909 --> 00:35:19.820
while he was away, I was the scratch track. I

00:35:19.820 --> 00:35:22.219
would do the scratch track for him, but then

00:35:22.219 --> 00:35:25.139
they said, you know, you sound like him. You

00:35:25.139 --> 00:35:32.639
do it. So I ended up, I ended up playing. Oh,

00:35:33.340 --> 00:35:35.940
there's a great story about that too. If you've

00:35:35.940 --> 00:35:43.000
got time, we've got time. We're doing, we're

00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.760
doing the, the cartoon show, uh, the new adventures

00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.960
of Sonic. and my friend Phil Hayes and myself

00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.400
were playing Scratch and Grounder. And we'd done

00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.960
about six episodes and we were doing kind of

00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:01.420
a Abba Costello kind of thing. And the producer

00:36:01.420 --> 00:36:06.480
came into the studio and she goes, they don't

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:15.440
like the voices. What do you mean? They don't

00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.900
like the voices come up with something else something

00:36:18.900 --> 00:36:24.440
brilliant or you're fired Wow, and I went um,

00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:34.300
when do you need this now? No pressure so we

00:36:34.300 --> 00:36:36.679
started coming up with all different kinds of

00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.599
combinations mutton Jeff spike and tyke all these

00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.860
different, you know combinations of that and

00:36:43.690 --> 00:36:47.710
No, not happening. Tick -tock tick -tock. Wow.

00:36:48.329 --> 00:36:54.590
So I said to Phil, I said, Phil, you play Scratch

00:36:54.590 --> 00:36:59.449
and I'll play Grounder. And he came up with this

00:36:59.449 --> 00:37:04.730
laugh for Scratch. Like that. And I came up with

00:37:04.730 --> 00:37:08.809
this, I'm not stupid. I just locked my head for

00:37:08.809 --> 00:37:16.719
a moment. So that's how we did it. We sent it

00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:20.960
back to the headquarters, head office. And the

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:26.320
head office came back and go, we love it. We

00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.960
recorded the last six episodes. So we had to

00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.679
re -record the last six episodes and continue

00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:34.820
recording. And they became favorite characters.

00:37:35.070 --> 00:37:38.050
Yeah. Yeah, they were. They were absolutely love

00:37:38.050 --> 00:37:42.590
the show. Yeah. But it was also in that show.

00:37:42.769 --> 00:37:48.449
I had the famous belching belching story. Oh,

00:37:48.570 --> 00:37:50.449
okay. There we go. Where they had to do it. I

00:37:50.449 --> 00:37:55.030
had to do a big belch like this. And I just didn't

00:37:55.030 --> 00:38:00.829
have it in me. No pun intended. I started knocking

00:38:00.829 --> 00:38:03.329
back at Coca -Cola and I just knocked it back

00:38:03.329 --> 00:38:07.320
like that. And they said, are you ready? This

00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:15.300
is take 41, take one. And I went. And the big

00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:22.320
thing of foam, wrapped in an amniotic sack, flew

00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:28.000
out of my face, and it hit my script, and I went.

00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:39.070
And it went all the way back. And I went, oh

00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:43.610
my God, oh my God, I'm so sorry. But when you

00:38:43.610 --> 00:38:47.170
hear it on the tape, because I know it's out

00:38:47.170 --> 00:38:54.070
there somewhere. Like that. And the gal who is

00:38:54.070 --> 00:38:59.250
the script supervisor and Phil were laying on

00:38:59.250 --> 00:39:02.809
the floor. killing themselves laughing. We couldn't

00:39:02.809 --> 00:39:06.670
stop. They said it was the most incredible thing

00:39:06.670 --> 00:39:10.170
they've ever seen in their lives. It was just

00:39:10.170 --> 00:39:14.329
like this big ball of Coca -Cola foam literally

00:39:14.329 --> 00:39:19.630
hit my scratch. And I went, oh! Wow, I feel like

00:39:19.630 --> 00:39:36.210
a stargate. It was pretty exciting, I gotta say.

00:39:38.349 --> 00:39:43.630
The life of a cartoon actor is not boring. Absolutely

00:39:43.630 --> 00:39:46.409
not. I would take that so, yeah. Knocking back

00:39:46.409 --> 00:39:50.949
would result in one of the greatest moments of

00:39:50.949 --> 00:39:56.260
your life. We like it. Do it again. I could never

00:39:56.260 --> 00:39:59.820
repeat it. Never in a million years. You probably

00:39:59.820 --> 00:40:03.780
shouldn't try it. I wouldn't try it. Not now.

00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:11.900
Oh, my God. Go ahead. No, I was just wondering,

00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.280
building on what you said a little, the life

00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.739
of a voice actor is never boring. But from hearing

00:40:19.739 --> 00:40:23.400
other voice actors speak, it can be... I don't

00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.000
know if you would agree with that. It could be

00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.599
kind of lonely because you are in a booth by

00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:29.260
yourself. You don't get to interact with the

00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:32.059
other actors. Well, that's how it is. I don't

00:40:32.059 --> 00:40:35.860
know why that that's how it is now. You know,

00:40:35.860 --> 00:40:38.760
that's how it has been with COVID. We all had

00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.780
to do our recording separately. Right. All the

00:40:41.780 --> 00:40:46.659
shows I did in the past, we all did it ensemble.

00:40:46.780 --> 00:40:50.389
It was ensemble recording. Right. Right. and

00:40:50.389 --> 00:40:53.630
the reason why they did it ensemble is because

00:40:53.630 --> 00:40:57.909
there's a process that goes between actors that's

00:40:57.909 --> 00:41:02.429
organic and you have reactions and and ad lib

00:41:02.429 --> 00:41:05.489
things that just don't happen normally right

00:41:05.489 --> 00:41:09.090
like with uh with hack and slash when we were

00:41:09.090 --> 00:41:13.230
doing hack and slash uh in a show called reboot

00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:17.920
right right yes Half the dialogue was improvised

00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:24.079
between hack and slash. We'd make stuff up and

00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:29.360
then we'd record the recorded script and then

00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:31.800
they'd ask you to do an improvisation of that

00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:34.019
and we'd do that and a lot of times they'd keep

00:41:34.019 --> 00:41:38.110
the improv because it was funny. Now, I mean,

00:41:38.230 --> 00:41:41.710
the last show that you're talking about, Monster

00:41:41.710 --> 00:41:46.429
Loving Maniacs, I did all 50 shows by myself.

00:41:46.730 --> 00:41:50.789
Wow. In the studio, that was just me, and because

00:41:50.789 --> 00:41:57.829
of COVID. But the great thing about that is you

00:41:57.829 --> 00:42:03.280
can record it really fast. It's knockoff four

00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.179
episodes in an hour and a half, which is Wow

00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:10.500
It's usually it takes about four hours per episode

00:42:10.500 --> 00:42:14.659
In the beginning it would take eight hours per

00:42:14.659 --> 00:42:18.639
episode, but You know tape and whatnot, but now

00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:25.460
with digital it's just so I miss recording with

00:42:25.460 --> 00:42:30.420
our an ensemble cast. I love it and So we did

00:42:30.420 --> 00:42:35.300
that we we recorded singly and the tricky thing

00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:37.679
about it is you really got to know your stuff

00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:41.679
when you when you're recording by yourself You're

00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.260
basically imagining What that other person is

00:42:45.260 --> 00:42:48.880
saying and and how they're saying it, you know

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.719
talking a vacuum so I would I would picture the

00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.400
movie as best I could and Then I would do it

00:42:57.099 --> 00:43:00.119
three different ways, each line, three different

00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:05.119
ways to cover how the other person would respond

00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:11.380
in the scene. And it takes a long time to learn

00:43:11.380 --> 00:43:14.679
how to do that because you're basically seeing

00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:19.139
the movie in your head and then reacting to basically

00:43:19.139 --> 00:43:21.800
nothing. And it must have worked for me because

00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:25.360
I only had, I think out of 50 shows, I maybe

00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:34.880
had six pickups. Sometimes I've got to say sometimes

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:41.659
Sometimes a recording can be difficult I Find

00:43:41.659 --> 00:43:45.239
that with some people who are who don't have

00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:48.139
a lot of experience it can be very hard for them

00:43:48.139 --> 00:43:52.679
They don't get it just yet or get it off the

00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.980
page right away Other times, you've got a director

00:43:57.980 --> 00:44:06.960
who wants something very, very specific. Wally

00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.460
Burr was one of those. I don't know if you remember

00:44:09.460 --> 00:44:13.619
him, but Wally was a tremendous animation director

00:44:13.619 --> 00:44:19.159
back in the day. He directed all of the... He

00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:23.539
directed sergeant slaughter he directed Conan

00:44:23.539 --> 00:44:28.739
Conan the barbarian And we used to call it the

00:44:28.739 --> 00:44:35.039
Bershenda was gonna go like this remember One

00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:39.900
guy one poor guy had a he had a word a thief

00:44:39.900 --> 00:44:47.679
thief thief No, no what I'm looking for is You

00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.300
gotta be accusatory, but you can't be really

00:44:51.300 --> 00:45:03.659
angry. And he goes, ah, there you go thief. And

00:45:03.659 --> 00:45:07.880
it would take forever. And I know that some people

00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:12.480
like 50 takes doing a line. Just not hearing

00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:17.590
it anymore. And that's how then it's, I gotta

00:45:17.590 --> 00:45:19.550
be honest with you. That's only happened to me

00:45:19.550 --> 00:45:23.769
once, but it was on, on a commercial called dollar

00:45:23.769 --> 00:45:25.769
general stores. Remember dollar general stores?

00:45:27.210 --> 00:45:34.710
I know they're big in the Southern States. I

00:45:34.710 --> 00:45:38.570
used to do all the commercials. I didn't be like

00:45:38.570 --> 00:45:42.030
dollar general stores. They're reveal a low price

00:45:42.030 --> 00:45:51.739
hours. And, um, Nice. A 35 takes. Wow. Ours.

00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:56.099
Oh, really? One word. And I go, they're everyday

00:45:56.099 --> 00:46:00.860
low price. Ours. He goes, nah, that's too, uh,

00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.860
too ironic. And he tries something a bit different.

00:46:04.139 --> 00:46:08.119
They're everyday low price. Ours. Nope. Too happy.

00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:12.239
Too trying too hard. Uh, they're everyday low

00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:20.840
price. Ours. No, sexy. Find all these different

00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:25.059
variations on this one word. Wow. I bet you went

00:46:25.059 --> 00:46:30.599
for take two. And it's like a mantra. You forget.

00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.460
You're just going, ha, ha, ha. OK, here it is.

00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:41.139
Hours, hours, hours. Do you appreciate that kind

00:46:41.139 --> 00:46:46.239
of feedback, or is it just like? Sometimes sometimes

00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:51.179
when you've got You've got too many cooks You

00:46:51.179 --> 00:46:56.260
know, I remember doing a I was doing a commercial

00:46:56.260 --> 00:47:05.000
once for A &W There's a new A &W teen burger

00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.940
to all beef patties lettuce cheese under no peas

00:47:07.940 --> 00:47:11.179
lettuce onions on a sesame seed button and And

00:47:11.179 --> 00:47:14.659
that was it was great And they said, no, that's

00:47:14.659 --> 00:47:16.519
kind of straight. Can you do something? So I

00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:20.539
did like a Walter Windchall from all the ships

00:47:20.539 --> 00:47:24.280
at sea. And I did that. And they had all these

00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.719
executives there. And they said, well, I like

00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:30.920
it. Do you like it? No, I like it. How about

00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:32.699
you? Do you like it? Yeah. Well, let's call up

00:47:32.699 --> 00:47:35.519
head office and see if they like it. So they

00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:39.920
take the phone. They go, OK, this is the commercial.

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.530
Have a listen. So they put the phone up against

00:47:42.530 --> 00:47:46.630
the speaker. That's how long ago it was. And

00:47:46.630 --> 00:47:51.469
they, I did the commercial, they listened to

00:47:51.469 --> 00:47:53.250
the recording and he said, so what do you think?

00:47:53.269 --> 00:47:57.610
Didn't go too far, huh? No, it's good? Okay,

00:47:57.710 --> 00:48:00.949
thanks. Okay, it's good. It's good. It's good,

00:48:00.949 --> 00:48:10.659
thank you. You have different people have different

00:48:10.659 --> 00:48:13.559
ideas and they all have to put their input in,

00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:17.400
right? You know, the spots were like the commercial

00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.039
for dollar general stores where I'm recording

00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:25.920
here. They got the ad office in in St. Louis

00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.159
and the head office down in down south somewhere

00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.920
and there were all on these telephone lines and

00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.320
there's always always the delay between you know,

00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.920
this and that a landline not like today. This

00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.500
is great. This is how I actually did my last

00:48:40.500 --> 00:48:44.079
cartoon. The director would be on a screen like

00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.440
this and I'd be sitting in the booth literally.

00:48:48.980 --> 00:48:56.980
Nothing but the engineer. Yeah, so that's it.

00:48:57.219 --> 00:48:59.820
I mean, I love ensemble playing more than anything

00:48:59.820 --> 00:49:03.519
because of the organic nature of it. Right, right.

00:49:05.610 --> 00:49:08.309
You've really got to be on your game when you're

00:49:08.309 --> 00:49:11.769
doing When you're doing solo in the booth, I

00:49:11.769 --> 00:49:15.769
think I was Bruce Willis one times I know one

00:49:15.769 --> 00:49:18.909
line that he was doing for over the hedge and

00:49:18.909 --> 00:49:23.909
he says I've done this line 51 times. This cartoon

00:49:23.909 --> 00:49:32.570
stuff is really hard. Were you on the other side

00:49:32.570 --> 00:49:36.210
looking? Amateur. What? Were you on the other

00:49:36.210 --> 00:49:39.110
side looking? Amateur. What? Amateur. What a

00:49:39.110 --> 00:49:43.769
noob. What a noob. You don't know what it takes.

00:49:44.550 --> 00:49:48.050
I would have gotten the second take. But he was

00:49:48.050 --> 00:49:51.480
okay. He was good. I liked him. But obviously

00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:55.480
he didn't stick with it. No, he didn't. He was

00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:57.900
just carried on with his acting career. Yeah.

00:49:58.900 --> 00:50:01.739
Well, he did okay. I mean, he was doing his thing

00:50:01.739 --> 00:50:04.559
and that was all great. And I really like, you

00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.059
know who my favorite cartoon actor is? John Leguizamo.

00:50:09.059 --> 00:50:12.519
Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, when he played that three

00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.280
-toed sloth in Ice Age. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah.

00:50:17.300 --> 00:50:21.519
He's just so great. He inhabited that slot like

00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:28.900
it was him all along He does he does some very

00:50:28.900 --> 00:50:32.420
good voices he does very good voices Yeah, really

00:50:32.420 --> 00:50:36.199
amazed to see him. And so I'm now what's his

00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.840
face? Maurice LaMarche is another one, you know

00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:55.730
that red and stimpy guy Work with them on on

00:50:55.730 --> 00:51:00.630
a show called salty's lighthouse And I've met

00:51:00.630 --> 00:51:05.110
Pete Cullen a few times I met Frank Welker and

00:51:05.110 --> 00:51:09.110
William Bell Met a few of them, but they're just

00:51:09.110 --> 00:51:13.920
they're just those They're a great group of people

00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.119
if you ever gonna interview them there, right?

00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.059
That's one for the books I mean we can get any

00:51:23.059 --> 00:51:26.239
anybody that's done voice acting work or been

00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.360
in a movie they debate on our podcast to give

00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.800
the the RGB of one of encouragement to Proceed

00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:34.000
and something that you guys do. You know, this

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.349
is more like a study I guess a study video or

00:51:37.349 --> 00:51:39.929
a manual to see what it takes to get out there

00:51:39.929 --> 00:51:44.289
in the pictures, I guess, in the pictures. In

00:51:44.289 --> 00:51:48.550
the movies. Well, the thing is, it's all about

00:51:48.550 --> 00:51:52.190
persistence, and it's all about really believing

00:51:52.190 --> 00:51:54.590
in yourself and believing what it is you can

00:51:54.590 --> 00:52:00.269
do and being aware also of what your limitations

00:52:00.269 --> 00:52:04.150
are. Right. Sure. And knowing your limitations.

00:52:04.349 --> 00:52:11.289
is wonderful because you can go 110 % all the

00:52:11.289 --> 00:52:15.289
way. Right. Right. Because you know exactly where

00:52:15.289 --> 00:52:19.809
you can go. I know I'll never play. I will never

00:52:19.809 --> 00:52:25.610
play a princess. Never say never. Never say never.

00:52:25.889 --> 00:52:29.110
You did. If you play a princess. But I would

00:52:29.110 --> 00:52:32.619
never play that. We are in the 21st century.

00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.780
You're absolutely right. Anything is possible.

00:52:39.179 --> 00:52:42.039
Anything is possible now. That's why they invented

00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:48.360
Pitch Rider. Exactly. I could easily hear you

00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:50.260
being Princess Peach in the next Marvel movie.

00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:59.989
But you know, I got to tell you something. Gotta

00:52:59.989 --> 00:53:03.409
tell you something I did I think I did a demo

00:53:03.409 --> 00:53:10.409
a demo of the very first voice sampler and it

00:53:10.409 --> 00:53:16.190
was You know the digital sampling for keyboard

00:53:16.190 --> 00:53:25.900
and stuff Take the voice ago. Hi And I did this

00:53:25.900 --> 00:53:29.260
a good evening Dr. Ace good evening doctors and

00:53:29.260 --> 00:53:32.320
just do it on the keyboard right right and uh

00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:35.539
it was uh it was uh built and invented by a fellow

00:53:35.539 --> 00:53:39.900
named Ralph Dyke who worked for Roland you know

00:53:39.900 --> 00:53:43.480
Roland yeah yeah and he built the first sequencer

00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:46.900
for keyboards and a lot of electronic stuff for

00:53:46.900 --> 00:53:52.139
uh For Roland electronics, but I remember working

00:53:52.139 --> 00:53:55.980
in this studio with him and various keyboards

00:53:55.980 --> 00:54:00.599
at a music music store music studio and playing

00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:03.920
with a Sequencer and playing with a sampler.

00:54:04.059 --> 00:54:06.579
I never even heard of what a sampler was they

00:54:06.579 --> 00:54:17.980
just take a sound like You know like that Yeah.

00:54:18.900 --> 00:54:24.539
That's what the, uh, the, um, the big belch was

00:54:24.539 --> 00:54:30.460
for a, for a, uh, no, no, there was another belch.

00:54:32.059 --> 00:54:33.519
There was another one, but this one I didn't

00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:38.000
do in a Coke, no Coke foam. It was for, um, for

00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:42.320
a show called, uh, Captain, Captain Zed and the

00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:48.659
dream patrol. And, um, It would they had nightmares

00:54:48.659 --> 00:54:52.619
these characters that were nightmares and They

00:54:52.619 --> 00:54:57.099
loved doing crazy things and they sang this song

00:54:57.099 --> 00:55:00.059
called This is a song that'll get on your nerves

00:55:00.059 --> 00:55:06.840
get on your nerves get on your nerves. Oh And

00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:12.059
they wanted a keyboard sound that was all belches

00:55:12.349 --> 00:55:18.690
So we go. So you make it and then they'd sample

00:55:18.690 --> 00:55:28.210
it and play it over the game. Crazy stuff we

00:55:28.210 --> 00:55:31.510
did. I'll tell you what. Well, you are the innovator.

00:55:33.610 --> 00:55:36.269
You know, we used to yell at the tape, so it's

00:55:36.269 --> 00:55:40.500
the voice stuck. There you go. Well, that was

00:55:40.500 --> 00:55:43.460
you know in those days, you know, we were we'd

00:55:43.460 --> 00:55:47.880
work with with 24 track and 16 track and whatnot

00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.019
and I remember doing commercials Laying the voice

00:55:52.019 --> 00:55:55.460
track down in the commercials and and you would

00:55:55.460 --> 00:56:04.559
go if there was a mistake you go Slice tape fluid

00:56:17.560 --> 00:56:31.940
I love it. You find the right, you get the right

00:56:31.940 --> 00:56:37.630
preamp and the right mic and It's a great sound.

00:56:37.690 --> 00:56:40.809
It's actually a great tool. I've been using it

00:56:40.809 --> 00:56:45.650
for years now. It's got to be. It's amazing how

00:56:45.650 --> 00:56:47.969
the technology has come so far that you can actually

00:56:47.969 --> 00:56:50.230
do everything that you used to be able to do

00:56:50.230 --> 00:56:53.150
in a studio in your home. You can do it in your

00:56:53.150 --> 00:56:57.469
home. It's amazing. I remember I had one of the

00:56:57.469 --> 00:57:02.769
first Apple laptops where it was a tabletop but

00:57:02.769 --> 00:57:07.360
it looked like a a bulb like this and it had

00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:13.059
a digital sequencer in it but you had to program

00:57:13.059 --> 00:57:16.639
everything you had to program the note the value

00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.000
the rest whether it was a quarter eight sixteenth

00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.880
whole note half note and then when you and it

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.420
took all day like 20 bars and then when you played

00:57:28.420 --> 00:57:34.610
it it would go and it just never sounded good.

00:57:35.630 --> 00:57:39.050
It sounded like it was made by a machine. It

00:57:39.050 --> 00:57:44.010
didn't have the feel. Right, right, right. You

00:57:44.010 --> 00:57:49.710
know, like the Mario Brothers music. There you

00:57:49.710 --> 00:57:54.449
go. I hear you. But now you can play it live

00:57:54.449 --> 00:57:57.260
and it's just like... recording on a tape recorder,

00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:00.840
only a really good tape recorder, having an unlimited

00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.300
number of tracks to play with. I mean, that's

00:58:04.300 --> 00:58:09.219
just fantastic. And, you know, with the, I don't

00:58:09.219 --> 00:58:13.320
know how you feel about AI is kind of encroaching

00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:23.789
on everyone's. Watching have you I don't know

00:58:23.789 --> 00:58:29.289
if you've been watching On Facebook they have

00:58:29.289 --> 00:58:33.010
these AI They have these ads from Mark Zuckerberg

00:58:33.010 --> 00:58:35.750
and Jimmy Patterson and different people all

00:58:35.750 --> 00:58:39.309
going you know something I have a an opportunity

00:58:39.309 --> 00:58:42.429
for you That's gonna be the most amazing opportunity

00:58:42.429 --> 00:58:45.809
you've ever seen. I am a billionaire I didn't

00:58:45.809 --> 00:58:48.769
always be a billionaire, but now I am a billionaire,

00:58:48.889 --> 00:58:53.230
and I'm gonna show you how to do it. Well, I

00:58:53.230 --> 00:59:01.530
know that guy personally. And he doesn't sound

00:59:01.530 --> 00:59:03.690
like that. Jimmy Patterson, I used to work for,

00:59:03.769 --> 00:59:05.769
I was a lock boy for Jimmy Patterson when he

00:59:05.769 --> 00:59:11.550
had a used car lot back in the early 60s over

00:59:11.550 --> 00:59:15.250
at Over he was like Jimmy Patterson car lot.

00:59:15.250 --> 00:59:18.210
It was a you know, Jimmy Patterson Ford. I think

00:59:18.210 --> 00:59:23.789
I remember he always had a kind of voice like

00:59:23.789 --> 00:59:26.289
this and and as he got older his voice got a

00:59:26.289 --> 00:59:28.989
little thinner and readier, but their voice that's

00:59:28.989 --> 00:59:35.510
on the commercials. Hi, I'm Jim Patterson No

00:59:35.510 --> 00:59:39.989
scam doesn't like Mark Zuckerberg doesn't sound

00:59:39.989 --> 00:59:43.559
like that But they match the voice to the mouth.

00:59:43.820 --> 00:59:46.780
Right, right. Perfectly. When they take all the

00:59:46.780 --> 00:59:49.039
like, they've even got Pierre Elliott Trudeau,

00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:53.480
the Prime Minister of Canada. Yeah. Come on.

00:59:53.739 --> 00:59:57.659
But that's the danger of AI. Right. Right. I

00:59:57.659 --> 01:00:02.320
can make you say or do anything. And that's what

01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.820
I don't we've been vehemently against it in our

01:00:04.820 --> 01:00:09.360
in our unions. Right. Right. Yeah. Can kill us

01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.280
especially in in a voiceover in the voiceover.

01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.260
I mean you listen to you listen to these ads

01:00:16.260 --> 01:00:21.659
or stories on YouTube So this is you know, what

01:00:21.659 --> 01:00:24.559
was the one I was listening? Hadrian's wall built

01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:29.099
in built in Scotland in the third century AD

01:00:29.099 --> 01:00:33.719
was around CE Was one of the most formidable

01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:36.639
engineering contract in the world and it sounds

01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:42.679
like Like from what I know it sounds like an

01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:49.260
an Asian person speaking English and Yeah, when

01:00:49.260 --> 01:00:52.599
you listen to the ad or you listen to the the

01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:55.000
voiceover on the YouTube like on YouTube and

01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:58.739
that And those things on Facebook. They're all

01:00:58.739 --> 01:01:02.960
AI generated. Yes. Yeah, I don't know if let's

01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:07.849
see if I can find one here They're they're actually

01:01:07.849 --> 01:01:11.190
quite amazing. I won't I won't uh, I won't infringe

01:01:11.190 --> 01:01:14.849
on any copyright or anything No, but you you

01:01:14.849 --> 01:01:18.090
do you do have a point the the it's the uncanny

01:01:18.090 --> 01:01:21.170
value of the voice that they use exactly No,

01:01:21.170 --> 01:01:23.909
they have the pictures also and yeah in the video

01:01:23.909 --> 01:01:27.750
and all that all that stuff now. Yeah It's insane.

01:01:28.130 --> 01:01:31.690
Yeah. Oh, I know which one it's uh, you know

01:01:31.690 --> 01:01:41.380
the you know those um There's one's uh Not the

01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:53.139
golf. I do like the golf one though. I mean,

01:01:53.619 --> 01:01:59.280
we've had guests come on. our podcast music musicians

01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.920
who are worried about that exactly exactly they

01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:04.719
say there's a prompt to it and also there's a

01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.280
con to it so creativity wise it is interesting

01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.639
because it can take you down yeah certain you

01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:15.739
know exactly but i think this might be it okay

01:02:15.739 --> 01:02:20.360
listen to see what i can see take a nice oh no

01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:31.269
that's a real guy Oh, here's this one. This one.

01:02:33.789 --> 01:02:44.030
That they are. Yes, yeah. I call it the uncanny

01:02:44.030 --> 01:02:48.809
value of voices. It does sound mechanical. There's

01:02:48.809 --> 01:02:51.889
no war to it. No, there's nothing. There's no

01:02:51.889 --> 01:02:55.860
dynamic. Yeah, there's no dynamics to it as opposed

01:02:55.860 --> 01:02:59.920
to someone's like an actual voice actor. I don't

01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:02.639
know if there will come a time that people can't

01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.920
pick it up, but it's scary to think about. I've

01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:10.219
always said that you can never, you can never

01:03:10.219 --> 01:03:13.320
duplicate a human voice because all you have

01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:18.139
to do is look at a human voice on an oscilloscope.

01:03:19.710 --> 01:03:23.909
And it has so many different bands in it. There

01:03:23.909 --> 01:03:26.730
are so many different variables within a voice.

01:03:27.150 --> 01:03:31.710
Trying to find a person with perfect pitch. I

01:03:31.710 --> 01:03:34.809
have good pitch, but it's not perfect. But when

01:03:34.809 --> 01:03:40.929
you think you're hitting a C note... If you watch

01:03:40.929 --> 01:03:43.250
it on a telescope, it goes up and down and up

01:03:43.250 --> 01:03:46.750
and down and up and down. It never stays exactly

01:03:46.750 --> 01:03:50.039
on the C. Same thing with these voices. they

01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:54.659
never vary you know they don't have they don't

01:03:54.659 --> 01:03:58.300
have that human quality like that little breath

01:03:58.300 --> 01:04:00.960
you know would take a breath between the words

01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:07.039
you know or if you hit a specific you know vowel

01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:10.300
or combination of vowels or consonants in a word

01:04:10.300 --> 01:04:13.679
you know you just you just have that that feeling

01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:18.500
in our human voice yeah yeah Well you get certain

01:04:18.500 --> 01:04:23.280
words you know certain words will be That look

01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:27.159
proper on paper are mispronounced when they're

01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:31.860
spoken out loud And that's the weirdest ones

01:04:31.860 --> 01:04:36.949
for me yeah guys we are an hour and 5 minutes

01:04:36.949 --> 01:04:42.449
into the pocket. Has it been an hour already?

01:04:45.150 --> 01:04:49.829
Hardcore information. It's been a blast. Yeah,

01:04:50.510 --> 01:04:56.469
I mean, 1 1 last question for you before we go.

01:04:58.309 --> 01:05:00.929
Through the career you've had through the years.

01:05:03.650 --> 01:05:08.349
What would you say to you an upcoming? We want

01:05:08.349 --> 01:05:10.849
to go to voice acting and be an actor and musician

01:05:10.849 --> 01:05:15.070
or going to the arts like you did. You know what?

01:05:15.110 --> 01:05:19.289
What advice can you offer? And on top of that.

01:05:19.969 --> 01:05:23.849
If. Mr. Optimus Prime himself was right next

01:05:23.849 --> 01:05:26.949
to you, how he was saying his career has been.

01:05:28.110 --> 01:05:30.750
If Optimus Prime was sitting right next to me

01:05:30.750 --> 01:05:34.840
exactly. How would I say my career been? My career

01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:42.480
has been, I gotta say, amazing. I have had a

01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.619
completely blessed career. I've never been a

01:05:45.619 --> 01:05:50.239
famous movie star. I don't make millions and

01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:52.699
millions of dollars. I'm just a working stiff.

01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:55.860
I'm what you call a blue collar actor. There

01:05:55.860 --> 01:06:03.019
you go. I never made aspirations of being a star

01:06:03.019 --> 01:06:06.840
I all I wanted to do was work at it and make

01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:11.300
a living doing it and That's what I did and and

01:06:11.300 --> 01:06:16.219
as I've said before small steps you take us you

01:06:16.219 --> 01:06:19.619
take I'm gonna learn how to do this and Then

01:06:19.619 --> 01:06:21.920
you learn it's a I'm gonna try and get a smaller

01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:24.880
job or I'm just gonna try and get a job And then

01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:26.739
somebody will give you a job. Will you take it?

01:06:26.780 --> 01:06:29.440
and then you move on and you move on and you

01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:32.900
and you you aspire to bigger and better and greater

01:06:32.900 --> 01:06:36.639
things and Then one day you'll look back and

01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:44.139
you'll go How the hell did I end up here You

01:06:44.139 --> 01:06:47.059
know That's basically what it is if somebody

01:06:47.059 --> 01:06:49.920
had told me back when I was just getting out

01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:52.980
of school That I had be sitting on a podcast

01:06:52.980 --> 01:06:57.070
talking about my 40 year plus career, I had a

01:06:57.070 --> 01:07:01.909
laugh in their face. I had no idea this is how

01:07:01.909 --> 01:07:06.130
it was gonna be. All I knew was that if I could

01:07:06.130 --> 01:07:11.269
just stay with it and commit to it 100%, and

01:07:11.269 --> 01:07:14.469
that's what I did, I stayed committed to it and

01:07:14.469 --> 01:07:21.619
kept always trying to... Home what little skills

01:07:21.619 --> 01:07:25.440
I had right eat them and keep them fresh and

01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:28.000
keep them up and keep them happening all the

01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:31.639
time and always be committed and be Basically

01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:34.579
true to yourself because there are a lot of people

01:07:34.579 --> 01:07:38.659
who are in love with the idea of doing this But

01:07:38.659 --> 01:07:43.219
the reality is not easy. The reality is full

01:07:43.219 --> 01:07:47.059
of rejection and full of self -doubt and all

01:07:47.059 --> 01:07:50.519
these things and the thing is you develop this

01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:56.579
thick skin of like rhino skin and You said doesn't

01:07:56.579 --> 01:07:59.900
matter You know and and this is what I say to

01:07:59.900 --> 01:08:02.420
you know when I was coaching people and teaching

01:08:02.420 --> 01:08:05.559
he says Whenever you go into an audition or you

01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:09.159
do an audition everybody's pulling for you You

01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:11.500
want to get the part because well if you get

01:08:11.500 --> 01:08:14.780
the part you get the part you get paid your agent

01:08:14.780 --> 01:08:17.979
wants to get the part because They get a cut.

01:08:18.859 --> 01:08:22.060
The casting agent wants you to get the part because

01:08:22.060 --> 01:08:25.260
it will make them look good that they brought

01:08:25.260 --> 01:08:28.539
you in. Producer and director want you to get

01:08:28.539 --> 01:08:32.659
the part because if we can find this guy in you

01:08:32.659 --> 01:08:36.800
or this girl in you, then we don't have to worry

01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:40.779
anymore. It won't cost us any money. We'll just

01:08:40.779 --> 01:08:44.989
say that... We've got you. I'm and and that's

01:08:44.989 --> 01:08:47.229
the thing is I'm here to solve your problem.

01:08:47.569 --> 01:08:51.569
You're not here to solve my problem and It is

01:08:51.569 --> 01:08:54.789
my job to make sure that I do solve your problem

01:08:54.789 --> 01:08:58.430
in the in the best way possible that comes with

01:08:58.430 --> 01:09:01.890
years of practice and it comes with a dedication

01:09:01.890 --> 01:09:05.750
to doing what you do and not be lazy and and

01:09:05.750 --> 01:09:09.729
and also Be satisfied with the fact that you

01:09:09.729 --> 01:09:12.840
may never be a star but you will always work,

01:09:13.300 --> 01:09:15.560
you'll always make a living, and you will always

01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:18.800
have a great time. If you keep aspiring to the

01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:22.100
high, high, high, and if that never comes, then

01:09:22.100 --> 01:09:23.920
you'll live a life of perpetual disappointment,

01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:28.180
and that doesn't work out so well. You'll see

01:09:28.180 --> 01:09:33.659
how that happens, but there's that, and one thing

01:09:33.659 --> 01:09:36.939
I've always said is that if you do get a job

01:09:36.939 --> 01:09:40.880
on a film set or in a studio, Find out what everybody

01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:44.020
does. Find out what everybody's job is. You may

01:09:44.020 --> 01:09:48.720
like those jobs, you know. You go on set and

01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:51.180
respect the people that you work with and the

01:09:51.180 --> 01:09:53.920
people around you who you work with. Let's say

01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:57.279
I've done, I don't know how many, I think I'm

01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:06.020
over 400 anyway. 400 productions. Yeah, and I

01:10:06.020 --> 01:10:10.770
always go in like it's my first day. I always

01:10:10.770 --> 01:10:13.670
go in and whenever I whenever I say I'm going

01:10:13.670 --> 01:10:22.850
to work I'm driving home driving along and I'm

01:10:22.850 --> 01:10:27.689
laughing my ass off. I'm going to do And you

01:10:27.689 --> 01:10:31.029
go and you go on set and and people are glad

01:10:31.029 --> 01:10:33.390
you're there and you're glad you're there and

01:10:33.390 --> 01:10:36.909
you treat everybody with respect and you you

01:10:36.909 --> 01:10:40.199
you treat everybody like They're the ones that

01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:42.840
make the movie work, because they are. Without

01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:46.640
any one of them. When you go on set and all these

01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.520
people running around, it looks like chaos. It's

01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:56.579
not chaos. Everybody has a specific job. And

01:10:56.579 --> 01:10:59.159
when you watch it and the whole organic process

01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:02.060
of it, it's just amazing. Same thing in the studio.

01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.359
When everybody, as I said, when everybody's pulling

01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:08.220
for you with all that positive energy coming

01:11:08.220 --> 01:11:11.399
your way, how can you fail? The only way you

01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:14.680
can fail is basically you don't look like the

01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:18.300
person that they want. I've sat on both sides

01:11:18.300 --> 01:11:20.899
of the table and I know exactly how that works.

01:11:21.579 --> 01:11:24.239
And I've sat at the table and I'm going, how

01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:29.760
the hell are you gonna choose? They're all fabulous.

01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.539
And that happened. I don't even remember a movie

01:11:34.539 --> 01:11:38.079
called Big Time Movie. It was a Disney, you know,

01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:43.920
the big time, big time rush. It's on. I can't

01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:47.159
remember. I think it's on Paramount, but Big

01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:51.779
Time Movie. And I was cast as the head of MI6

01:11:51.779 --> 01:11:54.340
and they were casting the gal who was playing

01:11:54.340 --> 01:11:59.020
my partner. And so they asked me to come in and

01:11:59.020 --> 01:12:03.159
watch. So I'm looking at all these women coming

01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:06.779
in and reading this part of one They're all great.

01:12:07.300 --> 01:12:11.260
How are you gonna choose? Yeah, and The director

01:12:11.260 --> 01:12:16.020
was a guy named Savage Steve Holland He's looking

01:12:16.020 --> 01:12:18.279
at him and he's looking at him and he goes you

01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:20.979
know what you remember that that blonde girl

01:12:20.979 --> 01:12:24.359
the blonde girls yet there was just a hint of

01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:27.939
vulnerability about her that I just loved and

01:12:28.799 --> 01:12:33.420
And I said, yeah, she's kind of cool. And that's

01:12:33.420 --> 01:12:36.500
the girl who got the part. And when you watch

01:12:36.500 --> 01:12:39.159
it on the movie, you go, it makes perfect sense.

01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:44.500
It was so good. It was so funny doing that movie.

01:12:44.619 --> 01:12:48.220
And then there was another one called, oh, what

01:12:48.220 --> 01:12:51.500
the hell was it called? Oh, Osage, August Osage

01:12:51.500 --> 01:12:55.029
County. Okay, yeah, that one it was a play I

01:12:55.029 --> 01:12:58.149
was doing the play and The director asked me

01:12:58.149 --> 01:13:02.050
to come in and read with the women in the show

01:13:02.050 --> 01:13:04.409
because she wanted me to play this part and smooth

01:13:04.409 --> 01:13:08.430
in this play and Again, it was the same thing

01:13:08.430 --> 01:13:11.270
I was reading with all these women and they all

01:13:11.270 --> 01:13:13.949
had something different to offer and they were

01:13:13.949 --> 01:13:17.560
all Fabulous and I planned each one according

01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.020
to what they were giving me, because that's what

01:13:20.020 --> 01:13:22.899
acting's about. It's about playing tennis, hitting

01:13:22.899 --> 01:13:29.340
back and forth. And so it was another suggestion,

01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:32.439
Janet, how are you gonna choose? And she goes,

01:13:32.500 --> 01:13:34.239
I don't know, I don't know, but please do my

01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:42.340
play, please do my play, please do my play. If

01:13:42.340 --> 01:13:47.909
my show does not get picked up, I will do this

01:13:47.909 --> 01:13:51.409
play Please I hate to say this but don't get

01:13:51.409 --> 01:13:59.689
your show picked up Wow So what happened my show

01:13:59.689 --> 01:14:04.090
got picked up right and it was a series called

01:14:04.090 --> 01:14:11.109
the killing oh That it was with What's a me ray

01:14:11.109 --> 01:14:20.420
Enos and Joel Kinnaman I It was the most wonderful

01:14:20.420 --> 01:14:22.699
experience working with those two they were just

01:14:22.699 --> 01:14:26.739
so brilliant and I had to up my a game to to

01:14:26.739 --> 01:14:30.039
be there with them and We had so much fun on

01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:32.720
the show so I I had to work the series and the

01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:34.739
series was for the whole year So I couldn't do

01:14:34.739 --> 01:14:41.479
the play and that's it But yeah, that's how it

01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:43.239
happens, but there's those things you know that

01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:45.909
you just don't know what's gonna hire you If

01:14:45.909 --> 01:14:50.170
you start to think about things like, oh, they

01:14:50.170 --> 01:14:52.350
didn't like my hair, or I wasn't black enough,

01:14:52.369 --> 01:14:54.670
I wasn't white enough, I wasn't this, I wasn't

01:14:54.670 --> 01:14:58.710
that. No, it's the mood of the universe. That's

01:14:58.710 --> 01:15:02.329
how it works. Because in my case, I've been in

01:15:02.329 --> 01:15:06.449
the business for so long, over 40 years, and

01:15:06.449 --> 01:15:10.170
all the actors that I read against have also

01:15:10.170 --> 01:15:12.850
been in the business over 40 years, and they're

01:15:12.850 --> 01:15:19.880
all really good actors. And so sometimes you

01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:24.199
get the part, you go yay, they all cry. That

01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:28.140
sometimes they get the part, he yays and we all

01:15:28.140 --> 01:15:31.779
cry. That's the way it goes. They spin a wheel,

01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:33.760
and the wheel of fortune round and round of where

01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:37.760
it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. It stops

01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:41.500
on this guy. And I've seen it happen. I've seen

01:15:41.500 --> 01:15:44.000
it happen in real life. I was sitting in the...

01:15:43.819 --> 01:15:47.380
with the producer of a mini series I did with

01:15:47.380 --> 01:15:52.239
Farrah Fawcett way back when. And the producer

01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:59.619
was from ABC television. They were casting for

01:15:59.619 --> 01:16:08.640
the lawyer for Farrah Fawcett. And I'm watching

01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:12.279
the tapes with them. And these guys were no slouches.

01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:14.600
They were all A -listers out of Toronto, and

01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:17.260
they were just great actors. And I'm watching

01:16:17.260 --> 01:16:19.720
them, I'm watching them, and says, eh, so what

01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:23.300
do you think? And Lou, the producer, and David,

01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:24.619
the director, are looking, and they're going,

01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:27.579
I can't make, ah, Jesus, no, these guys are all

01:16:27.579 --> 01:16:32.659
good, I can't make, honey! The producer calls

01:16:32.659 --> 01:16:35.960
over his wife, and she watches the tapes, and

01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:39.140
she goes, and he goes, so what do you think?

01:16:40.590 --> 01:16:44.010
And she looks and she goes, you know, I really

01:16:44.010 --> 01:16:51.270
like that tie. He got the part. He got the part.

01:16:52.090 --> 01:16:56.850
He liked his tie. Wow. Oh, wow. Okay. That's

01:16:56.850 --> 01:16:58.789
no bullshit. That actually happened. I was sitting

01:16:58.789 --> 01:17:01.970
right there and I went, oh my God. I believe

01:17:01.970 --> 01:17:06.250
you so well. Because they couldn't decide because

01:17:06.250 --> 01:17:12.609
they were all equally good. You know and it happens

01:17:12.609 --> 01:17:14.909
even with the big a -listers the big eight -time

01:17:14.909 --> 01:17:19.569
a -listers You know Who's who's gonna get cast

01:17:19.569 --> 01:17:22.710
who doesn't get cast? It just happens like that

01:17:22.710 --> 01:17:25.050
and you have to and the thing is you have to

01:17:25.050 --> 01:17:28.729
accept it and my motto has been Always surrender

01:17:28.729 --> 01:17:32.050
yourself to the universe and the universe unfold

01:17:32.050 --> 01:17:44.300
as it should I want to say thank you, Gary. I

01:17:44.300 --> 01:17:46.319
appreciate you coming on the podcast playing

01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:50.149
with it for a while. Great stories, nonstop,

01:17:50.550 --> 01:17:53.210
great information. Yeah, that's a great information.

01:17:53.229 --> 01:17:56.010
Great information. I do appreciate you. Do you

01:17:56.010 --> 01:17:57.890
have any social medias that you'd like to post?

01:17:59.170 --> 01:18:04.430
No, I'm just on TikTok and Instagram. You can

01:18:04.430 --> 01:18:06.890
find me there and I have my fan page and that

01:18:06.890 --> 01:18:09.930
over on Facebook and you can find me there as

01:18:09.930 --> 01:18:14.300
well. That's about it. I have a YouTube channel

01:18:14.300 --> 01:18:18.100
called primal parodies. That's quite fun We just

01:18:18.100 --> 01:18:20.979
do parodies of different songs at Christmas time

01:18:20.979 --> 01:18:25.659
every year. Oh Okay, so we rewrite re rewrite

01:18:25.659 --> 01:18:29.319
famous carols or was the night before Christmas

01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:42.670
when all Anyway, thanks guys. I got to rehearse

01:18:42.670 --> 01:18:47.500
now. You're talking about singing. I'm performing

01:18:47.500 --> 01:18:53.319
tonight at eight o 'clock. I will not hold you

01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:55.560
any further. Thank you so much for your time.

01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:59.500
My pleasure. Continue doing your legendary stuff

01:18:59.500 --> 01:19:02.159
because you will be imprinted in our minds at

01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:05.180
the end of time. Thank you so much. Thank you

01:19:05.180 --> 01:19:10.020
so much, guys. See you later. Bye -bye. Ladies

01:19:10.020 --> 01:19:13.579
and gentlemen, that is the podcast for today.

01:19:14.029 --> 01:19:18.550
Oh my gosh, uh, all I can say is that wow. Yeah,

01:19:18.550 --> 01:19:20.750
it's a lot of information from mr. Chalkman.

01:19:20.750 --> 01:19:24.189
Uh, those of you that want to go into the uh

01:19:24.189 --> 01:19:27.529
into the arts of uh Well, I mean it's like it's

01:19:27.529 --> 01:19:30.590
like you said be prepared for hard work But also

01:19:30.590 --> 01:19:32.750
be prepared that you know, maybe you won't become

01:19:32.750 --> 01:19:35.390
the the huge celebrity that you think you should

01:19:35.390 --> 01:19:38.909
be or or want to be you know exactly just Continue

01:19:38.909 --> 01:19:42.279
to plug along and you know what? What I find

01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:44.880
most amazing, uh, what he was saying is that,

01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:48.420
you know, he didn't, it really, I really have

01:19:48.420 --> 01:19:50.340
heard it from other actors too. Like they didn't

01:19:50.340 --> 01:19:53.199
know the impact that they were having when they

01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:54.960
were doing the character. They just showed up

01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:57.939
and did the character and did, you know, their

01:19:57.939 --> 01:20:02.060
part as best as they could. And it just, it just

01:20:02.060 --> 01:20:05.020
hit. With everyone and you know, that's that's

01:20:05.020 --> 01:20:09.619
how they became this legendary sandwich But uh,

01:20:09.720 --> 01:20:12.260
ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much Uh, we

01:20:12.260 --> 01:20:14.899
will see you next week. We got local talent coming

01:20:14.899 --> 01:20:17.859
in next week. So be prepared for another great

01:20:17.859 --> 01:20:22.439
episode the cheating podcast, uh any last words

01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:29.890
to Surprisingly, no. Wow. Amazing item speechless.

01:20:30.189 --> 01:20:32.390
This has just been a really great episode. I

01:20:32.390 --> 01:20:35.289
know is that we have put us in the in the podcast.

01:20:35.470 --> 01:20:37.630
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the show.

01:20:37.789 --> 01:20:41.289
Anyways, guys, we'll see you next time. All right.

01:20:41.369 --> 01:20:42.689
You all take these. We'll see you next week at

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