1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,400 Welcome back everybody to another exciting episode of the Toro Cigar Lounge podcast. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,040 I'm your host Mike Lover aka 757 Cigar Mike. 3 00:00:08,040 --> 00:00:11,600 Stay tuned today ladies and gentlemen you're not going to want to miss this one. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:17,080 Today we're talking about cigar brands you should know about if you don't already. 5 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:19,480 Stay tuned we'll be right back. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,080 In a world desperate to separate us by our differences there's still a place where you 7 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:26,840 can go where all are welcome. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,000 The Cigar Lounge. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Welcome to the Toro Cigar Lounge podcast. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,040 This podcast is sponsored by family by Loyalty Cigars. 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,840 Loyalty is thicker than blood. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Try their five pack of extraordinary cigars at Toro Cigar Company. 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,600 And we are back again. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,720 I'm your host Mike Lover aka 757 Cigar Mike and today we are talking about cigar brands 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,080 that you should know about if you don't already. 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,080 You're not going to want to miss this one ladies and gentlemen. 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,200 There are some three kick ass brands we're talking about today. 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,360 All veteran owned companies all fairly new to the Toro Cigar Company website and these 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,000 are cigars that you will absolutely love. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,840 So let's get right into it. 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Who do we want to start with? 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,840 Let's start with. 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,200 I was just saying I said we do it when the order you brought them in. 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Okay. 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Go ahead Ken. 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,200 What were you going to say? 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,320 I believe that's Hermanos. 28 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:26,320 Okay. 29 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:27,320 Hermanos. 30 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:28,320 Okay. 31 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:29,320 Hermanos. 32 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:30,320 Hermanos. 33 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:31,320 Brother in arms. 34 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:32,320 Brother in arms. 35 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:33,320 Brother in arms. 36 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:34,320 HDA. 37 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:35,320 Brother in arms. 38 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:48,080 And what an amazing veteran owned cigar brand. 39 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,320 Here is a box of the cataclysm. 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,320 Right. 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,640 We've got several in stock. 42 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,560 And they also do the veiled mutiny and the descending shadows, which I believe Ken is 43 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,560 smoking right now. 44 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,160 The descending shadows. 45 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,720 The best part about this brand is we offer the HDA sample pack. 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,520 So you can try if you've never tried HDA and you want to try their cigars. 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,840 This is the perfect, absolute perfect way to try their cigars. 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,640 Great three pack cigar sampler and you can't go wrong with them. 49 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:19,640 No. 50 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:20,640 So go ahead. 51 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:27,840 I was going to say what's cool about them is they actually took the time, a lot of time 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,760 to really learn about it. 53 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,640 And they didn't just like jump in feet first. 54 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:34,840 They took the time to get the education. 55 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:40,000 And I'll say this, they rolled those out and they really did drop three banging cigars 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,720 out the gate. 57 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,920 You know, they're like, it doesn't, there's not a, there's not, and you know, I mean, 58 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:53,440 I'm not a super dark rapper guy or strong cigar guy and every one of those was killer 59 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,000 out of the gate. 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Yeah. 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Yeah. 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,960 What I was going to say is like, this is, this is really not a first time cigar smoker 63 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,960 type of cigar. 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,920 This, this is like the connoisseur type of cigar. 65 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:09,520 This is, you've been smoking for a while. 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,720 You know what you like. 67 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,200 There's a lot of flavor. 68 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,080 I mean, it, this isn't something you hand to somebody who's never smoked before. 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,080 That's for sure. 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Not, not one of them is going to be, going to be an easy, you know, light little smoke. 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,680 I would say that, you know, if I was going to hand somebody that was new to the cigar 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,840 world with them, hadn't smoked a bunch, the cataclysm was got to be the way to go. 73 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,840 Yeah. 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Medium to medium plus, you know, Havana hits all the right tasting notes. 75 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:45,080 That's a cigar I'd be pretty confident to hand somebody that's new into the cigar world. 76 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,240 Well, new hasn't had a few cigars already though, right? 77 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Yeah. 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,240 I wouldn't hand that. 79 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,240 I wouldn't hand you that as your first cigar ever. 80 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,240 No. 81 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,680 I mean, unless I didn't want you to come into the industry, then maybe I could use it to 82 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,960 get rid of you because you're a pain in the ass. 83 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,960 That's possible. 84 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:00,960 That's possible. 85 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,560 But, you know, but, but, you know, no, I mean, I, but even if you've only had, you 86 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,680 know, four or five cigars and you're really starting off, I think the cataclysm was very 87 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,680 approachable. 88 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,680 Yeah. 89 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:18,720 Um, you know, and so I really think they, they did it right, you know, and I mean, I 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:24,800 know we've all smoked a lot of them and man, their construction, their burn, their draw, 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:30,920 the things that, you know, that I look for in a cigar that aren't, you know, opinion-based 92 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,080 and they just, they, they hit it on the head. 93 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Yeah. 94 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,520 You know, they just, they did it right, you know, because I mean, you know, I mean, I'm 95 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,760 not going to talk about taste, dude. 96 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,120 That's, that's personal. 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,120 Dude, that's your opinion on the taste. 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,480 And uh, I just don't care if you don't like the taste of a cigar. 99 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,480 That's you. 100 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,480 That's not the cigars fault. 101 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,480 Yeah. 102 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:53,480 Find what you do like. 103 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,520 So this, this has excellent, these, I have not smoked a single one. 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,920 That's had a single issue. 105 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Excellent draw, excellent construction. 106 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,560 And the thing, one of the things I like, and I have to pull it back some to get the whole 107 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,760 thing on the screen is the size of it. 108 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,080 You can smoke this for like a solid hour or more. 109 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,080 If you're a slow smoker, this is over a solid hour smoke. 110 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,600 Each of them, the three that we carry are the same, same sizes. 111 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:24,080 But when, when you have time to, to sit in a joyous cigar, you have a substantial cigar 112 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,080 right here. 113 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,080 It's not a 15, 20 minute smoke. 114 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,480 This is a solid hour or more. 115 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Oh yeah. 116 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,240 For sure. 117 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,680 And again, I think the, the Jake's point, you know, they're brand. 118 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,400 New cigar brand. 119 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,600 They are legitimately brand new. 120 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,880 They're what, three months old at this point, Jake? 121 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Three, four months. 122 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,880 April. 123 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,840 April, I mean, officially, yeah, you know, but officially they came out, they got their 124 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:52,720 cigars and started, you know, moving them in April. 125 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,520 So, you know, five months, maybe five months old, five months. 126 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,960 But I mean, that, you know, again, like I said, I think they really took the time to 127 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,960 do the cigars right. 128 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,280 And then they really took the time to really get really good images and talk about their 129 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:09,560 cigars and really get the information out there. 130 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:15,760 And you know, it's all, you know, I think to be successful in the cigar world, you know, 131 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,520 being in the military and everything, right? 132 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Details matter. 133 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,760 And you can't just, I mean, there's companies out there that we've had that have great cigars 134 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,760 that you've never heard of. 135 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Right. 136 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Right. 137 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,280 And you go online and you look and they have not that great images, you know, they're not 138 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:33,200 putting that, you know, they're not putting their best foot forward. 139 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:39,160 And these guys really took the time to like think about each one of those individual pieces 140 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,280 and make it happen and then released banging cigars to back it up. 141 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:44,280 Right. 142 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:48,880 And, you know, I think that's really important, you know, like the process they followed, you 143 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,200 know, and then they're just likeable guys. 144 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,360 Yeah, they absolutely are. 145 00:06:54,360 --> 00:07:00,320 You know, Zach and his entire Andre, Zach and Andre did a great job. 146 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,840 I think they did a great job of industry research. 147 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:05,320 They did their homework before they just jumped in. 148 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,800 And I think a lot of brand new boutique brands don't take the time to do that. 149 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,640 They found the right factory. 150 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,160 They did their own cigar blends. 151 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,840 They worked with the master blenders at that factory. 152 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,840 They did their own blends. 153 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:25,080 They came up with their own unique cigar blends and their own unique marketing and branding. 154 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,720 And then they just did three cigars, all the same Vittola. 155 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,820 And that's it. 156 00:07:30,820 --> 00:07:35,360 And that's all they're focused on right now is getting their brand out there to the world 157 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,920 and they're doing a great job doing that. 158 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:43,280 And you know, obviously working with Toro's a great first step for any new cigar brand. 159 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:49,480 But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, they're still they're doing a great job 160 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,280 getting into the lounges, getting into the breaking mortars. 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,440 And they brought on some good reps. 162 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,920 John Aldi comes to mind right off the top of my head. 163 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:05,400 He's out there killing it, knocking on doors and getting HDA cigars into shops all over 164 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,680 the Eastern Seaboard. 165 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:13,240 So it's great to see a veteran owned company start it, but do it the right way and come 166 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,760 out of the gate strong. 167 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,200 And there's no better way to do that. 168 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,760 There's a couple of others that we're going to talk about that are doing it right also, 169 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,480 which is why we're focusing on them today. 170 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,960 But at the end of the day, HDA is definitely kicking it out right. 171 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:32,160 And we're so glad that they're on board with us and we're on board with them and doing 172 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,160 some great things. 173 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,240 They will be at our Veterans Day event. 174 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,860 They plan on coming down for our Veterans Day event and they will be a sponsor of our 175 00:08:39,860 --> 00:08:42,960 Veterans Day event on Saturday, November 9th. 176 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,240 You're interested in that. 177 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,160 Pay attention to social media and emails. 178 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,800 You'll be able to buy your tickets very soon. 179 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,440 And the other thing I was saying out there, if you're listening to this and you are a 180 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,400 veteran or law enforcement boutique or craft brand, right? 181 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,400 You're just starting out. 182 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,240 Man, hit one of us up. 183 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:08,600 You know, here at TORRA, we're always looking to support our veteran brothers or, you know, 184 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,960 our law enforcement guys, our firefighters. 185 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,960 Hit us up. 186 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,880 If we don't know you exist, hit us up. 187 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,760 You know, let's have a conversation. 188 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,920 You know, we found a lot of great cigars by somebody just, you know, some company reaching 189 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,720 out and saying, hey, have you heard of us? 190 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,200 Let's do something. 191 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,960 We've gotten quite a few. 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,840 So I think one of the things that's kind of a mistake is that a lot of brands would just, 193 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,200 they think that the last step is getting into the humidor. 194 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:44,000 You know, you've sold your cigars to the store, but there's another step after that. 195 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:51,160 You've still got to let people know why they need to smoke your cigar. 196 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,040 You've got to put it in front of people's eyes. 197 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,360 And sometimes if you just get it in our humidor, we can't do all of the work of selling the 198 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,360 cigars for you. 199 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,760 You've got to help us out there, you know? 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,640 And that's one thing that these guys have done with the way they market. 201 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:12,360 Yeah, they've been a great partner in helping us bring awareness with their brand. 202 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,960 And that's something that not every brand works with us so well on, but HDA was definitely 203 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:18,960 worth it. 204 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,720 So if you haven't tried HDA cigars, give them a shot. 205 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Veteran owned company, three solid cigars. 206 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:26,080 You can't go wrong with any of them. 207 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,280 If you haven't had any of them, I suggest the sample pack. 208 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,320 That way you can try all three before you order a box or a five pack or something you 209 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,840 don't know if you even like. 210 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,320 Give it a shot. 211 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,320 Yeah. 212 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,760 I think you, I don't think you'll be disappointed. 213 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:39,760 All right. 214 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Number two, that would be the second in order, silent hero cigars. 215 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:54,200 So we got, we got five different cigars and four different, four different styles. 216 00:10:54,200 --> 00:11:01,480 So we got the Candela, we got a Habano, we got a, all right, help me out. 217 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,480 Okay. 218 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,200 So we have a Habano box for us, a Connecticut and a Maduro. 219 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,200 And a Maduro. 220 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,200 And there's two Habanos. 221 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,200 Yes. 222 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,040 There's a regular and a box for us. 223 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Yes. 224 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,200 And then the Candela. 225 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,200 And then the Candela. 226 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,200 And then the Candela, right. 227 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,200 Right. 228 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:24,200 So another, another, imagine that veteran owned cigar company brand new. 229 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,760 And the owner is a name is Bryce. 230 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,360 And man, we just absolutely love this guy. 231 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,600 He is so salt in the earth and down to earth. 232 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,560 And you know, he's one of the few veteran owned cigar companies that's actually trying 233 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:42,560 to actively give back to the veteran community. 234 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:49,520 And the way that he does that is 10% of all of his cigar sales, all of them go back to 235 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:57,640 a veteran nonprofit organization to support veterans, PTSD, dog zinc, a variety of different 236 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,640 things. 237 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,640 I think he kind of tries to spread the wealth out as much as possible. 238 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:11,040 But at the end of the day, he's giving back 10% of his profit to support veterans, veterans 239 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,360 in the United States military. 240 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,200 And you know, I think he's the only one actively doing that right now. 241 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,040 I don't, I can't think of another brand that's that that's that's committed to that as a 242 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,640 business process. 243 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,920 So you know, hats off price, man. 244 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:30,000 You're, you're, you know, that alone warrants trying silent hero cigars. 245 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,560 If you've never tried them, that alone warns it. 246 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:41,000 But beyond that, the scar constructions, the flavors, he hands down his Candela. 247 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,160 That was my new favorite Candela period. 248 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,160 End of discussion. 249 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,160 Yeah. 250 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:53,280 And what's, what's nice with his is there's a cigar in that sample pack for any level 251 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,520 of cigar smoker. 252 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,520 Right. 253 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,480 I mean, if you're the guy who likes lighter cigars and you're starting to that journey 254 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,200 into stronger cigars, that's a great way to do it because you've got the Connecticut 255 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,960 and the Candela and you've got some in his Havana's are medium. 256 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,800 They're not, they're not over the top Havana's, you know, so, and then, and the Maduro is 257 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,160 only like a medium plus. 258 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,840 It's not even a full in your face. 259 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,520 And so the, the benefit is like, you know, if you're kind of just on that journey and 260 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,200 you're trying to figure out what you like and what strength, you know, you don't like 261 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,840 super strong cigars and you're trying to find stuff. 262 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:34,120 I think that's a great way to do it as a sample pack like that because you get the range with 263 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,080 it, you know. 264 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,680 And then every one of the cigars is good. 265 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:43,600 You know, everybody that smoked them that I know has enjoyed them a lot. 266 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,680 Right. 267 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:49,680 And then what, well, one thing you have to consider is if you're doing something good 268 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,560 by buying cigars, that's a great reason to buy cigars. 269 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:56,800 So if you have to justify this to your wife, if your wife is saying, what's, what's this, 270 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,800 what's this on the credit card we have here? 271 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,360 And you're like, listen, I'm doing good. 272 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,920 You know, I'm helping the world. 273 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:04,920 Come on. 274 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:05,920 I'm giving back. 275 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,280 We're giving back. 276 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,760 You and I are giving back baby to the veteran community together. 277 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,760 I gave you credit. 278 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Well, when you say we, it ties them to that process. 279 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,840 We're giving back honey. 280 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Just a few hundred dollars with the cigars and a lot of good in the world. 281 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,520 That's a lot of good. 282 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:32,200 You know, but no, 100% and that he started doing that. 283 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,080 And I mean, I know Bryce's story. 284 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,080 I've talked to Bryce. 285 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,120 I've talked to that Bryce on here. 286 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,920 I think that's why he's doing, he's looked at that as the beginning. 287 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:49,040 He understands the value of giving back the value of getting, you know, guys help the 288 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,360 value of a service dog. 289 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,880 And so, you know, it's really nice to see like from the beginning, he said, Hey, this 290 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,640 isn't an afterthought. 291 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,560 This is a, from the day one, this is what I'm doing. 292 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,560 Right. 293 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Yeah. 294 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,920 It's not like a get rich quick scheme or get your, your face out there and into the industry 295 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,520 to try to be some sort of player or something like that. 296 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:18,440 And he's, he's definitely one of those, uh, few people who, who started with a very long 297 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,760 game in mind. 298 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,760 He didn't, this, this isn't some sort of just like hair, hair brain scheme that a couple 299 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,640 dudes got together and said, Hey, let's make a cigar. 300 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,840 Well, and you know, me and him have joked with the, with the going joke in the cigar industry, 301 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,840 how do you make a million dollars? 302 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Start with two. 303 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,840 There you go. 304 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,840 Absolutely. 305 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:46,400 But you know, the most impressive thing about price to me is his age. 306 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:54,080 He's 26 years old and he's already, uh, he's an old soul. 307 00:15:54,080 --> 00:16:00,440 I mean, honestly, he hangs out with 30, 40, 50 year old guys on herds with us and he fits 308 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,440 right in. 309 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,880 And he's like, he, you know, he's, it's like he's a brother. 310 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:10,240 He's just such an old soul and he thinks about the world in a much more mature way than most 311 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,280 of the 26 year olds I know in my life. 312 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,840 And, um, at the end of the day, that speaks volumes to me. 313 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:23,400 I'm so excited for him and his brand to see, I can't imagine where he's going to take this 314 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:29,880 by age 30, 35, 40, 45, or by the time he's 50, you know, hopefully he's the next Nick 315 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,960 Bardomo, uh, or Drew estates or, uh, Padrone cigars. 316 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,040 I mean, you never know, right? 317 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,400 What tomorrow's going to bring. 318 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:44,240 But if anybody at a young age has potential to do that, I see that in Bryce because of 319 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,800 what he did on his very first effort with cigars. 320 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,360 It's amazing to see. 321 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,600 I would have never been able to do that at 26. 322 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,240 There's no, no freaking way. 323 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,240 No, there's no way. 324 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Yeah. 325 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,240 Yeah. 326 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Other priorities. 327 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,240 I did. 328 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Well, Bryce is seeing a lot of stuff that another that very few teenagers and young men has 329 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:11,040 seen is he's taken responsibility, uh, the responsibility of being a veteran. 330 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,240 And that doesn't come free. 331 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,360 You know, there's a big cost that he's paid, uh, to, to serve the country. 332 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:23,280 And so that's, that's part of what makes him an old soul is that he's, he's not innocent. 333 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,820 He knows what the world's like. 334 00:17:24,820 --> 00:17:30,400 And so he looks past some of the, the money and the fame sort of things. 335 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,960 And, and it really has a foundation. 336 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Absolutely. 337 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,960 No doubt. 338 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:36,960 Absolutely. 339 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,960 No doubt. 340 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,320 And he's doing, he's killing me. 341 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,880 He's just, he's such a nice guy. 342 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,360 We're going to have him back on the podcast. 343 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:46,280 I think, you know, uh, we'll try to set that up. 344 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,080 And, and we've had him on as a veteran spotlight. 345 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,800 And yes, we did talk about, uh, Silent Hero cigars on that, but mostly refocused on Bryce 346 00:17:54,800 --> 00:18:01,120 and his veteran service, but we should definitely have him back as a manufacturer, as a guest 347 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:04,200 on the, on the podcast and just focus on the cigars. 348 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,960 And because he's got a great story. 349 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:14,640 He's got a great, um, uh, attitude and personality and you guys are going to love them. 350 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,720 And if you don't fall in love with him and his cigars, you know, you don't have a heart. 351 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,720 Yeah. 352 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,320 You can participate in his story by experiencing his cigars. 353 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,320 Exactly. 354 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Yeah. 355 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:32,120 No, he's, he's one that, uh, that sample pack, I will tell everybody is, is well worth it. 356 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:33,120 You're going to enjoy it all. 357 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,120 Oh yeah. 358 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:35,120 All right. 359 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:39,680 So as soon as you get it, smoke the condola first, you won't be disappointed. 360 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,760 Well, yeah, I agree. 361 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,040 I think, I was going to say something. 362 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,800 I'm going to let everybody make their own mind up, but here we go. 363 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Okay. 364 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:58,360 Uh, moving on to the latest edition and by latest, I mean this past week, we've added 365 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:02,400 BAMF cigars, badass motherfucking cigars. 366 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,400 Woo. 367 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Man, it's just a phenomenal guy and Ken's holding up the nine cigar sampler and that's 368 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,160 almost not quite, but almost every cigar in the lineup for BAMF cigars. 369 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,320 And I'm actually smoking one of the green kips right now. 370 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,040 It's a shape like a bullet and it's got a green tip, candela tip. 371 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Uh, it's hard to see. 372 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,760 There we go. 373 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,320 Um, but wow, what, what a great line. 374 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,480 What a great guy. 375 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,840 What a veteran own. 376 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,640 Now Jake, I'm going to address this with you specifically because you've addressed 377 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:42,760 this on the internet because I know how you like to challenge internet trolls. 378 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,760 Ish is a veteran tour faults. 379 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,880 100% true. 380 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,840 He didn't serve in the United States military. 381 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,840 So exactly. 382 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Really? 383 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,360 So you're only imagine if you're serving the US military, what military you served 384 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:02,040 in, if you like, well, unless it's like, you know, North Korea. 385 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Yeah, that doesn't count. 386 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,480 You know, if you're a Taliban military, that doesn't count. 387 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,880 But if you're a Taliban, yeah, that's not military. 388 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,880 That's not really a military anyway. 389 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,880 You probably have a nice beard though. 390 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,120 You probably have an excellent beard. 391 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:21,520 If you've served in any country in Europe and the military and you served honorably, 392 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,520 you're a veteran. 393 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,520 You put the uniform on. 394 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,200 You, it's pretty, it's pretty straightforward. 395 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,960 Did you sign on a dotted line? 396 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:33,120 Your ass over to your government to abuse as they see off fit for a certain period of 397 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:38,960 time to put your life on the line, to put your life on the line to serve your country. 398 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,200 And it's, it's, it's dead. 399 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,520 And he's got a great story, but just not his story. 400 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,840 His cigars are so uniquely different. 401 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Oh, unique is the keyword there. 402 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Unique. 403 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,280 There's no other way to say it. 404 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,280 They're unique. 405 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,760 If you have a smoke, like, you know, we know that you, you know, we got the blood of Lottin 406 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,400 and they sold out in what 48 hours? 407 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,400 48 hours. 408 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:07,240 The camera, the camera, 30 minutes, less than 30 minutes. 409 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,640 They were gone. 410 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,680 The thing is like, who else is using Transylvanian tobacco? 411 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:16,600 You know, he's got the Irishman using Irish tobacco or the Mafioso using Italian tobacco. 412 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Nobody else is doing this stuff. 413 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,000 So his cigars are really unique. 414 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,840 And people like with, you know, with the blood of Lott, the one thing that, you know, how 415 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,240 many times have we been asked, well, what's the cars that like, it's not like another 416 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,240 cigar. 417 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,240 Yeah. 418 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,040 What are you going to do in something like him? 419 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,960 You know, so his are really unique. 420 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:40,480 And even his cigars that don't use those really unique tobaccos, even his other cigars are 421 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,720 unique because he doesn't want them to be like another cigar. 422 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,040 He's worked very hard and put the time into make them not be like another cigar. 423 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:54,800 You know, or like, you know, his African piero that's not the camera that's a 660 African 424 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,080 piero, it's got five or six different regions of Africa, African tobacco in it. 425 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,080 That's all that's in it. 426 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Yeah. 427 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Well, who else is doing it? 428 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,080 Nobody. 429 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,840 You got one that's shaped like a shotgun shell, which is pretty kick ass by itself. 430 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,440 I mean, just, just, just to smoke something that's looks like a shotgun shell. 431 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,680 It's an interesting concept. 432 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,680 It's a cool idea. 433 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,680 I love it. 434 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:24,000 But, but that's a great cigar and it's a great under $9 cigar. 435 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Yeah. 436 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,240 You know, and that's a great cigar. 437 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,160 Like if you have a union job, right? 438 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,480 You got a job where you get 15, 20 minutes to have a smoke break. 439 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,400 That's a perfect cigar for a smoke break. 440 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,400 Yeah. 441 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,400 You have your cigar, you get to unwind a little bit, you go back to work. 442 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,400 Yep. 443 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,840 You know, and like, and I really think there's a lot of, I think he's just had a lot of thought 444 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,200 into what he's doing, right? 445 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,680 It's not like, oh, I'm going to do this as cool. 446 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,800 I'm going to do this as fun. 447 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:56,840 You know, he does a lot of it to pay homage to his past, to pay homage to his brothers. 448 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,680 He also does a lot of it to be different and unique. 449 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:06,360 And he really, really he is probably the most unique cigar brand out there. 450 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,240 And I'm stoked that, you know, Toro's carrying it. 451 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:15,840 I mean, me personally, you know, the African Cameroon Piro is one of my top three favorite 452 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,840 cigars ever. 453 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:22,040 I mean, it holds two, it's currently BAMP cigars is holding two of the spots of probably 454 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,800 my favorite cigars and the top five, you know, and it's the Transylvanian, the Bulls. 455 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,080 The Blood of Lod and the African Cameroon Piro. 456 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:36,040 I mean, those are just two amazing cigars, but it's great to see somebody doing something 457 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,040 different. 458 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,240 Oh yeah. 459 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,920 And when you talk about different, you got something like the barbed wire. 460 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,400 I cannot wait to smoke this cigar according to, yeah, according to Isis, as far as I can 461 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,160 tell, that's just one of his top sellers right there that. 462 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,160 Yeah. 463 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,160 Yeah. 464 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,400 That is his number one top seller. 465 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,160 It's a very cool cigar. 466 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,160 Yeah. 467 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680 And, you know, we learned something today. 468 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,080 We had him on an earlier recording session podcast, which you guys would see, have seen 469 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,680 last week. 470 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Last week, couple of weeks ago, sometime recently, was that that additional little barbed wire 471 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,040 wrap around it serves two purposes. 472 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,040 One is aesthetics is the look. 473 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,160 And so you get to name it the barbed wire. 474 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,880 But number two, it cools the burn down. 475 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,920 So when you start, when the wrapper starts approaching that barbed wire wrapping on the 476 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,000 outside of it, it slows down the burn of the wrapper. 477 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,680 So it cools it down and maintains your flavor. 478 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,040 It doesn't overheat the cigar. 479 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,400 Learn something new every day in this industry, ladies and gentlemen, every day. 480 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,080 And you know, like you said, we had this on a past show. 481 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,200 I think it's really cool that he's about, you know, next year, 2025, he's released in 482 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,600 a car, a cigar called around the world. 483 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,680 It has tobaccos from 17 different regions in it. 484 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,760 Like I have no idea what that's going to taste like, what it's going to be like. 485 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,840 But you know what? 486 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,640 I'm excited to find out. 487 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,400 Like I'm really excited about that. 488 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,120 Like of all the stuff I've heard coming out of all the stuff you see, you know, you hear 489 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:17,560 in the industry, that's the one thing I can really say I'm really excited about is that 490 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,560 cigar. 491 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,160 So I would say I'm going to say something about that. 492 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:30,400 So prior to smoking issues, blood of VLOD cigar, I would have second guessed that I would 493 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:37,000 have said some tobaccos from around the world, from Italy, from Europe, all I would have 494 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,640 been like, you got to be kidding me. 495 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,840 What's that cigar going to taste like? 496 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,040 I'm not interested in that. 497 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,040 I want DR. 498 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,360 I want Nicaraguan tobacco because that's my go to. 499 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:51,640 After smoking the blood of VLOD and the Transylvanian tobacco, I'm with you, Jake. 500 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:59,000 I am a hundred percent excited for the around the world cigar and to try that 17 different 501 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000 tobaccos from 17 different regions. 502 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,080 I am beyond stoked for 2025. 503 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,520 I think he's going to release it at PCA. 504 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,520 We'll be there. 505 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,400 So we're going to be early smokers of that cigar. 506 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,440 Well, I'm going to be gently because I'm scared of this. 507 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:21,800 I'm going to gently be twisting his arm come about January to see if there's any way we 508 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:28,440 might be able to sample, sample, provide feedback, be part of his tasting board. 509 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Exactly. 510 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,800 That's the car because I'm really excited about it. 511 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,160 And like, and like, well, it really had them on. 512 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,440 The other one was like, I didn't know that the Irishman actually had Irish tobacco in 513 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,440 it. 514 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,800 And now I'm like, what's that going to be like? 515 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,240 Like that's my thought. 516 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,640 Like, okay, the Transylvanian is so good and so unique. 517 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,640 What's the Irishman? 518 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Like that's literally how my brain is going at the moment is like, what's it? 519 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,520 What's the difference? 520 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,720 What's that like? 521 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,520 So Europe, right? 522 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:02,000 Has a much different growing season than South America's and, you know, Dominican Republic 523 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,680 and Nicaragua growing seasons much longer there. 524 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,120 But in Europe, just like North America, the growing seasons much, much, much shorter. 525 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,960 Yeah, one harvest instead of two. 526 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,040 And the plants don't get nearly as tall, right? 527 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:23,480 So in the DR in Nicaragua, where you get a 36 or inch plant to harvest, you're talking 528 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,040 about 18 or 20 inches to harvest in Europe. 529 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,120 So the flavor profiles are going to be much different. 530 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:35,280 I'm super excited to give that a try as a boutique cigar guy. 531 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,280 That's who we are. 532 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,960 That's who Toro is. 533 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,960 Right? 534 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,280 We love experimenting and finding new brands and flavors for our audience and our customers. 535 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,720 And man, I am super, super excited about that around the world cigar. 536 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,000 Well, I can tell you who's probably not super excited about that. 537 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,000 And that's going to be the roller who has 17 freaking leaves in front of him. 538 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Did I put this one in? 539 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Did I put that one in? 540 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Looking down at that recipe card, that's going to be interesting. 541 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Right? 542 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,000 But I mean, that's the thing though, it's like, you know, because cigars are all about the 543 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000 experience, right? 544 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000 We talk about this all the time. 545 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:17,080 And there's hundreds, if there's thousands and probably hundreds of thousands of cigars 546 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,080 out there. 547 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,640 And, you know, the ones that we say, Hey, these are my favorite. 548 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,560 These are the ones I really enjoy. 549 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,560 It's not. 550 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,440 So I'll pick on you, Mike, like with the San Andreas rapper. 551 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,520 There's probably five or six that you really enjoy and one of them has climbed to the top. 552 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,040 But they're all very similar. 553 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,040 They are. 554 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,040 Right. 555 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,040 They are. 556 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,920 You get something like the Transylvanian. 557 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,920 There's nothing like it. 558 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,600 There's nothing to be similar to. 559 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,120 And I have a funny feeling the Irishman's going to be the same way. 560 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,840 And it's the experience, right? 561 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,040 Yeah, it's different. 562 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,040 Why? 563 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,440 Because nobody else is doing it. 564 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,440 Exactly. 565 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,440 And what's it mean? 566 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,560 You know, and that's the thing is like cigars are about the experience. 567 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,960 Then you get something that just kind of takes you and shakes you, you know, ruins everything 568 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,440 you thought about cigars. 569 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,920 And you're like, okay, what's next? 570 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,640 Now you look at cigars differently. 571 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,040 And actually, I'm going to say this. 572 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:20,160 I feel really bad for everybody that's bought the blood of lot. 573 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,920 And I say this because of this, it is going to change your outlook on all cigars. 574 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:26,920 It will. 575 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,880 And you're going to look at cigars completely differently. 576 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:36,000 And it's going to, it's just, it's going to happen because it's so different, so unique, 577 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000 right? 578 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000 That it's going to change. 579 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,080 You're just smoking a cigar and be like, oh, well, okay. 580 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,720 And you're, you know, and that's, that's the thing is like, it's really, I really think 581 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,440 it's game changing what he's doing. 582 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,440 You know, 583 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Yeah. 584 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240 So we're kind of on the cutting edge here. 585 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,360 This is like, this is like breaking news really because it really is. 586 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:04,240 Yeah, our, our audience is into boutique cigars, but, but not all of our audience. 587 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,400 So if you're one of those guys who are out there who just go to the major, you know, 588 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,000 you go to this major lounge, you pick the one thing that you smoked day in and day out. 589 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,440 Every time you hit the golf course, you got a peddermal or a peddron or whatever you got 590 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,280 in your hand, you got to, you got to dip your toe into the boutique or craft. 591 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,360 I think we, we should probably try to make craft the, the, the go to here. 592 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,160 John Alde would be happy with that. 593 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,160 Yeah. 594 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,160 Yeah. 595 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Someone's got to, someone's got to really take the lead on that. 596 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,800 If you try these freaking craft cigars, it's going to change. 597 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,800 It's going to change you. 598 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Right. 599 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,360 And even if you don't go to like the Transylvania, if you say, Hey, I'm going to, yeah, I smoke 600 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:51,000 legacy brands only and I want to go try a craft cigar to see what the difference is. 601 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,640 Get some HDAs, right? 602 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,640 Yeah. 603 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,680 And you're going to notice a completely different cigar experience. 604 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,160 I mean, you know, we talk about the guys occasionally, look at the guys over at cigar 605 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,160 dudes podcast. 606 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,160 I'll throw them a shout out, right? 607 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Absolutely. 608 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,160 Right. 609 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,280 They were all smoking legacy brands, legacy brands, legacy brands. 610 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,280 They joined honor and ass with us. 611 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,960 We started talking about craft cigars. 612 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,880 They're like, what are those? 613 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,960 And now they're all like, what, what have we been missing this whole experience? 614 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:24,240 You know, so that's really where I think as a whole, the craft cigar industry is very 615 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,600 unique because they're doing stuff that other people aren't doing. 616 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:35,160 And in Mike, we've talked about this, you know, when Padrone or Fuente or LFD or whatever, 617 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,160 right? 618 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,160 Pick your major brand. 619 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320 When they're rolling a cigar out, they're having to roll a cigar out that's going to 620 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,720 appeal to the masses, right? 621 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Cause they're creating hundreds of thousands of these to make it up for it. 622 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,040 Right. 623 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,720 But then you get the boutique guys, all three of the ones we've talked about today. 624 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,200 They're not trying to create cigars for the masses. 625 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,480 They're trying to create cigars for the cigar connoisseurs. 626 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,600 I don't know if you think about craft beers versus regular beers, right? 627 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,720 Those craft beers aren't made for everybody. 628 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,520 They're made for the people that really enjoy something unique. 629 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,440 And, you know, and so it doesn't, you know, yeah, we're, we're talking a bunch about the 630 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,560 uniqueness of what it is to do because he took it to a different level, but still the 631 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,680 craft level is still completely different than the legacy level because they're doing 632 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,960 stuff that doesn't have to appeal for a million cigars to appeal to everybody. 633 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,400 They're getting to say, Hey, I'm going to do 10,000 of this really cool cigar and I 634 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,080 only got to appeal to a lot smaller audience and have something that's different from everybody 635 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,080 else. 636 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,080 Exactly. 637 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,080 You said you felt bad for people that, you know, try these cigars. 638 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,520 I tell you who I feel bad for, honestly, is the legacy brands. 639 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:55,040 And you have a craft cigar manufacturers that are doing this level of flavor experimentation 640 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:04,960 and doing it so well that once the average cigar smoker makes that shift to craft cigars, 641 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440 legacies, I rarely smoke a legacy cigar. 642 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:13,920 Now, unless I go into a lounge and I, and I don't see a boutique or a craft cigar brand 643 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,280 on the shelf and I'm forced to smoke a legacy brand is the only time I'll smoke a legacy 644 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,280 brand anymore. 645 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,760 And it does happen. 646 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,840 You know, a lot of lounges, a lot of lounges just carry legacy brands and I understand why 647 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,280 they need to make sales and those are their go-tos. 648 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,120 But if they have a craft cigar on their shelf, I'm going to that brand right off the gate, 649 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,000 especially with somebody I've never heard of. 650 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000 All right. 651 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,280 The legacy brands, they're probably at this moment when they hear you say that they're 652 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:47,040 just going to dump a pile of cash into a bathtub, sit and soak in that cash and cry 653 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:54,560 and dry their eyes with $100 bills and be like, oh, I wish I was the craft brand. 654 00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:00,280 What I think is interesting too, the craft brands, right? 655 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,840 Look at like, look at how big the other craft industries are, right? 656 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,200 Like I talked about beer, right? 657 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,200 Blown up. 658 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,960 Craft whiskey and bourbon industry. 659 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,960 Blown up. 660 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,960 Why? 661 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,760 Because cigars is next. 662 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,240 But I think the reason is people want something unique. 663 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:24,280 People want and craft cigars usually what you find is the construction, the burn, you 664 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,320 know, the draw, that's a cigar, right? 665 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,960 If it's done right, it's across the board. 666 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,960 Yeah. 667 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,960 Look at that burn alone. 668 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,960 Perfect. 669 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,200 But when you get to craft, you get a different thing. 670 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,640 You get more tasting notes. 671 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,320 You get more pronounced tasting notes. 672 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,960 You get stronger tasting notes. 673 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:50,720 And you get them in very unique combinations that aren't the same as everybody else. 674 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:57,280 And that's where the craft cigar industry, I've not met a single person yet that started 675 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,880 the journey of craft cigars and went, oh, I don't like them. 676 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,200 I'm going back to legacy. 677 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,920 It's always the other way around. 678 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,160 It's soon as they get them. 679 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,600 I've no, I know guys that have cleaned humidor is out of legacy cigars to make room for craft 680 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:16,360 cigars because there's, you know, myself included, you know, when I finally hit the boutique 681 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:22,240 world, I had probably about 800 legacy cigars. 682 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,440 They were gone in three months and I did not smoke them all. 683 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,160 They were, oh, you need cigars. 684 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,520 You're short on cigars because of what this reason or that or, oh, you're getting married 685 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,760 and a bunch of your buddies are coming up and you need cigars. 686 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,920 Here's, you know, cigars. 687 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,520 I did whatever I could to free up room for craft cigars and never look back. 688 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,520 Yeah, absolutely. 689 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,920 Yeah, I agree. 690 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,440 It's a revolution that one of you said it earlier. 691 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,480 It's cutting edge and, you know, we're, we're right there on the cusp of it. 692 00:35:53,480 --> 00:36:00,080 We're right there, you know, helping to bring craft cigar awareness to the average cigar 693 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,080 smoker. 694 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,360 So if you're a legacy guy and you haven't tried a craft brand, you know, check out Thorough 695 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,880 cigar company.com because it's primarily what we're caring to say this. 696 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,240 I'll say this. 697 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,880 If you haven't tried a craft cigar brand, you haven't smoked a cigar. 698 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,480 I think that's a fair statement. 699 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,800 If you haven't, if you haven't tried a craft cigar, yeah, if you haven't tried a craft 700 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,480 cigar brand and all you're doing is buying four or five legacy brands, you're missing 701 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,080 out and I don't, I'll tell somebody that, man, you're not really smoking cigars yet. 702 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,360 You haven't jumped over, get over the fear of it, buy them. 703 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,960 You might not like every one of them, but you know, go over to Thorough, buy some sample 704 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,960 packs. 705 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,840 Heck, I'm going to plug probably the safest sample pack on the site. 706 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:50,320 Go buy Ken's coffee sample pack and I guarantee there's going to be a craft cigar in there 707 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,800 that you're going to like. 708 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:57,120 Mine is the beginner, beginner cigar smoker, but then we do have a coffee sampler. 709 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,960 I will plug one other sample pack that I think if you have never tried craft cigars before 710 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,560 that you need to try and that's the family by loyalty sample pack. 711 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,840 If you've not tried a craft cigar, you're looking for a sample pack and you like full 712 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,520 flavor but medium body. 713 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,320 Family by loyalty is where you need to be for your, your first craft cigar. 714 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,440 You will fall in love with craft cigars. 715 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:30,080 You will never look back and then you're going to be hunting new and different flavor experiences 716 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:36,600 and hey, you know, we got a website full of them so you can hunt all day long to find 717 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,320 your favorite cigar. 718 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,960 Yeah. 719 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,800 If we got them in stock, I mean, they're in and out. 720 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,480 We announced something new. 721 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,240 People are snatching them up. 722 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:51,720 Don't worry if you see an out of stock, it'll be back at some point just to sign up for 723 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:53,560 that email reminder. 724 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,560 Yep. 725 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,080 Let me, let me, let me say this. 726 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,120 We don't know every brand out there. 727 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,800 We don't know every craft brand out there. 728 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,920 If you've got something that we need to know about, let us know about it. 729 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,600 We smoke tons of stuff that we, we don't sell because it's not necessarily in our wheelhouse 730 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,720 but people do need to know about all of those brands out there. 731 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:15,720 Absolutely. 732 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:18,520 I'm testing a new brand next week. 733 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,600 They reach out to me and there's a sample back coming in and I'm going to give them 734 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,400 a shot and if they're, if they're good as I've been told, I'll be reaching out and we'll 735 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,640 be getting them for everybody. 736 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,760 The rest of the guys on this and taking a look. 737 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,760 Yep. 738 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,240 Which we're happy to do. 739 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:39,200 We love exploring new brands, new flavors, new profiles. 740 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:45,480 And if it's something, I will say this, in order to get on the shelf in our humidor, 741 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,560 you know, it's by committee, no one person smokes a cigar and says, oh, we're bringing 742 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,560 this in. 743 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:52,560 It's not me. 744 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,560 It's not Ken. 745 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,560 It's not Jake. 746 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,060 It's all three of us have to go. 747 00:38:56,060 --> 00:39:04,360 This is a great flavored cigar and a great quality cigar construction and it's a good 748 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,640 value, right? 749 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,920 The cigar is worth the price that the manufacturer is charging. 750 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:15,080 If any one of those is off, we pass politely, you'll probably never hear about it. 751 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,160 We don't do bad reviews because it might be somebody else's cup of tea. 752 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,520 They might like that cigar. 753 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,360 But at the end of the day, if you get through all three of us, we're going to put you on 754 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,360 the shelf, baby. 755 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,280 All right, guys, let's wrap this one up. 756 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,200 I think this was a great show. 757 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,200 Yeah. 758 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,520 Hopefully, hopefully everybody learned something. 759 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,880 Hopefully everybody learned a little something. 760 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,640 So if you liked the show, do us a favor. 761 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Like comment and share on the video on YouTube. 762 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,000 It helps us out, helps get our reach out on YouTube. 763 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:53,040 And you know, every little bit helps us reach a new and bigger audience. 764 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,040 So we appreciate it. 765 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,280 If you have questions, please drop your questions in the comment section. 766 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,720 If you have a question for one of our manufacturers, if you drop it in that comment section, we 767 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:05,880 will reach out to that manufacturer and we will get a response for you or we'll tag the 768 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,520 manufacturer and let them come and respond for you. 769 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,120 But at the end of the day, we love to hear from you. 770 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,720 We love the comments, good, bad, and even the ugly comments because every now and then 771 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:15,800 we do a comment show. 772 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,880 And I think we're overdue for one of those. 773 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,160 And I think we probably have some decent comments. 774 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,720 We can just do an entire show on responding to your comments or questions. 775 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,680 So it's been a while since we've done that. 776 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,800 I think we should put that on the schedule, guys. 777 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,800 Put that on the schedule. 778 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,480 And also, I want to throw this out there. 779 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,640 We are up to date on Rumble. 780 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,280 We just, we put a few, we put a few shows out on Rumble. 781 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,400 They didn't do much, but I think Rumble is probably going to do more in the future. 782 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,400 So we're up to date. 783 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,040 You can catch all of our shows there. 784 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,520 You're probably going to go live on Rumble soon. 785 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,600 So we want to get a kickstart there. 786 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,440 If you're on Rumble, look for us there. 787 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,400 That'd be great. 788 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,640 You can also find us on, what is it, iTunes podcast and... 789 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,200 Yeah, you can use it for the audio version. 790 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,920 Yeah, the audio versions are everywhere. 791 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,920 You can find podcasts. 792 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,240 You can find us. 793 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,240 Check us out. 794 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,000 Check out Taurus Cigar Company. 795 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,560 But guys, we appreciate you being here. 796 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,200 We appreciate you watching the show. 797 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,120 And as always, remember, be a man, smoke a cigar and carry a gun. 798 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,120 Till next week, guys. 799 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,120 We love you all. 800 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:37,120 Till next week.