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it out. Let's start with everybody's most important
and favorite topic. Thanks Two and a half back
just dropped a four pack to the Jays great weekend
Everything seems to be working. Well It could
have been the jump the shark moment of the season.
Maybe I think it might be over I feel like angry
Jay, but it's not getting better Stanton comes
back we get worse and They finally after two
years of having to cut DJ Lemay who cut ties
with him this week. Guys, I'm talking out of
both sides of my mouth. I wanted it to happen
for two years, even though I loved the player.
I'm almost mad that they're doing it now where
they need some kind of clubhouse guy. Any thoughts
on that? I know Jeffy, you don't care. Croc.
Angry Jay, talk to me about LeMahieu. I called
you yesterday, I can't even get my head around
it. I was going off on Twitter. So I'm kind of
like you. It had to happen. What I don't like
is Yankee fans piling on him. And it's a typical
Yankee organization move because they wait until
everything's going wrong. they're they're complete
ass and now they're gonna cut him and Everybody's
just piles on him. Like he's the reason they're
losing like He's been terrible you know, and
he's probably his career is probably over near
the end, but Like just the way they do it like
why can't they release him when they're playing
fairly well? Cuz it's not like he was you know
and If you're noticing in his last 10 games,
he was hitting over 300. So he's the scapegoat.
But their favorite thing is to do is like, well,
he didn't want to play third base. They asked
him what position he'd rather play. And he's
played second base his whole career, basically.
So he said, second base. And Jazz, who was playing
third, Apparently can't throw the ball now or
something. So they have to put him at second
base and they're trying to make him a wall He
doesn't want to play third base. He came out
said I'll play it instead of getting released
gamer He said I'll play how ass backwards is
Did they trade for him or they signed him? They
signed it. So they sign it on a batting title
They sign an all -star batting champion from
the National League, too. Didn't he win there?
They sign an all -star batting champion second
baseman they don't start them opening day and
since then he's played first second and third
yeah then we traded for jazz a lifelong second
base when we play him at third you think we got
stuff backwards yeah and now we got peraza playing
third and he's a shortstop and by the way i could
actually see the move like if peraza was doing
anything but he hits worse than lameu does so
i'd rather see vivaz to be honest with you i
mean we had to hang up he's playing tonight he's
playing tonight vivaz Another thing but we're
gonna march Volpe out there every day. I love
it. I mean and it's 215 batting average Like
how long does he get like is he Ronnie James
here? Yes. No, he's not they're not taking them
out like yeah I mean you see Casper talking yesterday.
Why I? Don't have an answer for you. They said
they're sticking with them. They don't have an
answer because they don't have a replacement
Because Paraz is the replacement and he can't
hit his weight And they got him playing third.
They don't have an answer. Put Stanton there.
I mean, we put everybody else out of position.
Throw him up. He can hurt his elbow. Stanton
can't run. Freaking guy. Tennis elbow. Freaking
guy. Jesus. He's only got two years left on this
contract. Shut up. Yanks are going to make the
wild card. It's fine. Them and the Red Sox. They
will make the wild card. Yankees will make. Can
you explain to me another like like another sport
where you get. A specialist. Baseball, they're
specialists, right? I mean, I know when you play
high school baseball, you got to be a baseball
player. You should be able to play. You should
be able to play pitcher, catcher, short and center
field. Right. But just crack it in you. I mean,
if we're going to do that. So how do you get
a specialist who is comfortable playing a position
and play him in a different position? What are
we doing? They don't have roles. I think the
team doesn't have, they don't have roles for
half the players. Is that a manager? Is that
a manager? Is that a management? It's the buffoon
that runs though. Yeah. Are the Blazers going
to play the Charger? Yeah. If Cashman was the
general manager. Yeah. So it's a stay hat cash
issue. Oh, he's, he is so bad, dude. He is so,
like, look at Dominguez. He's a center fielder.
All through the minor leagues, he plays left
field. When he plays, I lead him off the rest
of it. How about Judge? We had Soto last year,
Judge plays center. Now he's back in right and
he can't play center. Ballinger plays right,
left, center. Nobody has a role. Nobody bats.
And he's the first baseman. Yesterday, yes. And
yesterday was the first time that they played
the same lineup, back -to -back nights. Since
April. We got to go back to the math lab. We
got to fix that. We can't keep doing that. Dominguez
gets three hits in a walk and five plate appearances.
Batting first and he's batting six the next night.
The math department makes out the lineup. It
doesn't work. But we'll get more and more of
it. We'll get a couple of milling relievers.
They're they compared him to Mike trout for how
many years since he was 15 or whatever Now we're
just yanking him around too. Yeah, they don't
develop players Mike trout my boy. I'll relax
Word about the bullpen. They don't have one.
They could look good last night though, didn't
he? Shittler our sheet leader. How do you his
name? Yeah. Yeah, he actually did look decent.
I had a wall pole mess Throw 100 miles an hour,
but yeah. I bet he likes the movie To Town. Great
movie. All right, one more thing about DJ, and
we'll move on to some other baseball. Let me
ask you, how are you with that? With what part?
The way they released him. Well, I called you
yesterday because I was pissed. I couldn't hear
you. I was in my house. I don't understand why
they would do it then. That's exactly my point.
I mean, they got a lot of young guys, maybe.
But then where's he, I don't know, cause Jazz
is gonna play second. That's fine, can't they
wait till they win a few games and do a little.
So here's part of how I feel about it. Does he
get picked up? That's my next thing. I think
he's gonna resurface. Not only somewhere, but
I think he's going to resurface somewhere just
for this season. And that that's going to haunt
us. And my first fear is the Red Sox were playing
a little over 500 ball with a bunch of kids.
And you know what those young kids need? Somebody
like that around. Yeah, that was proved. He wasn't
that guy. Right. The other one that worries me
is right up to Toronto. Yeah, play a couple of
days a week. I definitely think somebody will
pick them up. I don't think it'll be the Red
Sox. They're all in on punching. My third thing
is Dodgers are scuffling. You know, do they grab
a clubhouse guy? Mookie loves them. They got
a million guys, so. Fine. All right, my last
one is this. I can see Toronto. My last one is
this, like, who's the worst team, like, right
now and possibly in the last 20, 30 years? The
Rockies. Where'd he come from? Yeah, so one of
these, you know, finish the season out and try
to revitalize that Albatross of an organization,
maybe just goes there. That would be fine with
me because he's not gonna haunt us. Because they
have a minor league into Britain anymore. Exactly.
Anyway, we got questions. We got problems. I
got a question since you mentioned questions,
and we always mention Trout. It's kind of like
we have to mention him every time we do a podcast.
You do. Two days last night. He's my boy. He's
on fire. It's up to 231 this season now, by the
way. 15 homers. So take the three players. Trout,
Bryce Harper, Machado. I don't know if there
was some, I read something about it today as
somebody was talking about it. So if you had
to rank them all, career, they all started in
2012, time frame. Career batting average, who
has the highest? One of those three. That's a
good question. Machado just got his 2 ,000th
hit, so I would say him. Nope. No, I would go
Harper. Is it really? Machado and Harper are
tied, exact same average, 280 career. Travis
294. So you mentioned hits. So does he have the
most hits Machado out of those three? Yes. Yes,
it's not even close. He's got 300 more than the
other two. I got I got a question at the end
of this fight. Home runs out of the three. I
will say this was the closest. This was the closest,
but it was trout. There are. Do you have the
totals? I would say trout was on her for hunt
just on her for Machado's like three fifty three
fifty seven three forty six. Harpers last no
one runs. Okay, RBI's I got two more RBI's and
stone bases RBI's. It's gotta be Trout right?
Again Trout? Machado? Alright he's a machine.
Trout's last. Really? Machado was an RBI machine.
Machado's got more than... Machado's got 11 .02,
10 .11 and then 9 .90 for Trout. What's the next
one? Trout. And stone bases. Trout. I would go
Trout too, because he stole a lot. He's got a
pretty good gap on that, but I was surprised.
Manny gotta be last, right? Yes, I would go.
Stolen bases, Manny annual, he's 107. Was he
still in second when him and Pedroia got into
that thing? Yes, I remember that. I got a better
one for you. So at the end of this. Why is it
better? Well, a better question. You're one -upping
him? Yeah, at the end of it, end of their careers.
Who you gonna think had the best career Harper
Machado I agree. I'm gonna go Machado too. I
think I think try would be second and then Harper
Charlie has three MEPs though, you know, but
like We just said Machado hit 2 ,000. He's got
a legit shot at 3 ,000. It's somebody needs another
Yeah Harper got two right Harper one, I think
We're ready window that I miss this when he wasn't
with the Nationals in Washington, right? Was
he do I thought? Because Soto was that was Soto's
rookie year. He has zero opera zero But he's
still in a place that wants to win. Yeah, I mean
there's that yeah But I like Machado plays, you
know trout ain't getting one Exactly much auto
puts 150 games every year like he has a legit
shot at 500 home runs and 3 ,000 hits I hated
him. He has 350 thousand hits is gonna be he's
got 357. He's got like eight years on his contract
still He just turned well, he just turned 33
First turning 33 this month four more good years
Mean good years in a couple little chip away
who holds that he's gonna. I'm telling you he'll
he'll legit make it run at 3 ,000 So how many
players have you talked about 3 ,000 and 500
so if you think he'll be a 500 3 ,000 guy Machado
I Do gonna be close. Yeah, I do how many are
there Six seven maybe six seven That's what all
the kids say, I don't know what it means. Yes,
I know. Do they really hear that? I don't even
know what they're talking about. They don't hear
either. Well, crack, have you ever heard them
say it? Yeah. So by the way, so oddly enough,
there are seven. I can't believe I just said
that. Can you name all seven? Eddie Murray, Willie
Mays. All seven, Mac. Hank Aaron. Winfield? No,
he didn't have 500 home runs. So you got Aaron
Mays, Murray. Bonds? No, I just have 3 ,000 heads.
3 ,000 heads. 3 ,000 heads. This is terrible.
You normal? I have them written down. Just give
them to us. No, no. How about a team? Yankees?
Demagio? No. No, reset. Everybody here has played
since 80, after 80. Really? Oh, the last four
of all played since 1980, Palmeiro. You shouldn't
count. Three of them played in the last seven
years, or at least finished in the last seven
years. They're the three, the final three. I
can't believe it. Two of them should be obvious.
A -Rod. A -Rod. One more should be obvious. All
should be obvious. Oh yeah, you saw the last
time we were on the show. Griffey didn't get
3 ,000 hits today? No. No. Who you got? Pujols.
Yeah, only hit 700. Last one I thought was the
hardest one, Tigers. Miggy? Yep. I thought him
and Murray were the hardest ones to get. I wouldn't
think of Eddie Murray when I thought of it, even
though I know he did it. Ridiculous. I wanted
to talk about the Sox, but now that we're in
this kind of rut right here, I want to keep going
with this. The wild card winning Boston Red Sox
right now with Bregman coming back, right? And
Yoshida's back, right? We'll probably trade them.
Yoshida's back too? 750? Who does that? So a
guy we've mentioned a lot. He's an electric player.
This is the state of baseball right now. An electric
player. One of the fan favorites in the major
leagues. Ellie Dela Cruz has just passed Tony
Gwyn and his stat already. I saw that. You know
what it is? More strikeouts? Yeah. Yeah. That's
amazing. It took Ellie 319 games, what it took
Gwyn 2 ,444 games to do. Stay hot. Are you freaking
kidding me? That's amazing. Baseball's in good
hands right now. They've really got it down.
What I'll call the Jeter era, but basically from
I think 92 or three to about 2009. Career batting
average in the low 260s. Okay. Yeah. For the
average Major League. Last year, 243, 17 points
lower. If you go back to the 30s and 40s, the
average was 270, Jesus, was 270. I mean, 270
-ish. These guys can't hit. Different era, I
mean, I agree with the teaching. When you say
different, do you mean better? What, this era?
When you say that was a different era, How many
guys throwing 100 miles an hour now? How many
are throwing 100 miles per hour? There's over
a million relief pitchers. I'll get on that too.
With the guys throwing 100 miles an hour, here's
what's happened. To many kids that I know, a
surgery that they have to get where they're out
from a throwing standpoint for about 16 months.
Clark Schmidt. Clark Schmidt is one. And this
is trickled down into young kids is you have
to throw a max effort pitch every time you throw
the ball, even from in January. And eventually,
the unnatural motion of the arm, you know, that
your body can't keep up and you do the UCL up.
When we were in our, you know, late 80s, early
90s, so like high school, beginning college,
stuff like that, how many people did you know,
friends or friends of friends, people you played
against or with that got Tommy John? Zero. Zero.
Yeah, none. I had heard of one of them. Tommy
freaking John, okay? Now every high school program
has somebody that's getting time. What the freak
is that? So when we talk about errors, how about
this? Everyone's gotta throw their hardest every
single pitch, right? So is the pitching better
now that they all throw 100 miles an hour? No,
it sucks. And last year, 2024, there were 28
complete games in the big leagues. Yeah, it's
kind of stupid. In 19, in 2009, the end of what
I was calling the Jeter era, in 2009, there were
142 complete games. In 1985, which is, is that
the Mets in the Sox? No, that's 86. With strawberries,
maybe rookie year 85, you know, like that. Because
rookie year was 83. Yeah, okay. But anyway, that
era, 627 complete games. And these wusses that
can now throw harder than Superman, they can't
last more than five innings? Well, part of it
is the math department. The hell is that? It's
all the stats. It's all the math department.
So I'm saying this era is ruined. They don't
let guys pitch the third timer. Like a lot of
the guys don't, they don't let them pitch. Like
the aces, like Gary Coulson, like when he pitched
for... When I saw Yoni, he never pitched more
than seven innings. Yeah, but these coaches are
all now scientists. So Garrett Cole, his whole
life was probably pitching at, in January 15th
in some indoor cage. And the guys were working
on his mechanics, and he got these funny instruments
to help strengthen his body. And he's not pitching
right now, as we know, and we know why. But when
we were that age, did you know anyone who went
inside to some batting cage with some hero coach
that the parents are paying $150 an hour? And
did your friend learn how to throw their hardest
every single pitch? No. Did you ever see some
of those videos? The kids like crow hop. They're
like winding up just to see how hard they can
throw it. They're like running down like a mountain.
So what did people do back when they didn't get
hurt? They threw long before the game. They pitched.
And they threw 150 pitches when they started.
Well, Nolan Ryan, he threw 100 miles an hour.
Yeah. And the game was a complete game. And when
you lost your last baseball game, unless you
live in Thomaston, you would go play football.
We hadn't played soccer or ran cross country.
You never played again. Yeah. I mean, I played
a little. A heck of a lot of baseball for somebody
that didn't go very far, and so did you, Jay.
And how many times did you play a game in the
fall, even as an adult? Not many. Less than 10?
Yeah. Kids play all year. These guys play all
freaking years. They're all specialists. Not
good for the arms. So anyway. I've got to believe
90 % of the kids in high school who are playing
varsity baseball only play varsity baseball.
50 % made no other sports? No other sports. No,
because they don't, they wouldn't even fit in
the other sports because they can't wear sunglasses
on the top of their head or back. And hair coming
out the back of their freaking. All right, go
ahead. But the North thing, he's saying like
Kevin said, that's kind of stinks. I mean, how
many games do they play? They play 20 games.
High school, this is not like Florida where they're
playing 30, 40 games in high school. But those
20 games were like your life. Yeah, but I'm just
saying like they're only playing one sport. or
20 games like how oh no jay his point is with
that how often does the guy pitch he's throwing
six games a year 200 games that seat that that
calendar year because he's on a travel team somewhere
is but it goes from that to spring summer au
to fall au so it's not the 20 high school games
it's the other 180 screw screw hey you without
a doubt Anyhow someone was we were I was just
we were flying home people were talking about
sports and The thing they were talking about
with baseball is like it's the most expensive
sport to play now It shouldn't be because literally
a baseball glove last you a decade And you know
we used to share bats change the rules for next
year that bat me know or it'll be it's dead dad
so That plus the backpack plus the team they
have to be on. It's it's not that and that's
why. Kids from the inner cities and different
kids aren't playing baseball in this country.
It's this country has become very. I would have
guessed hockey to be honest. Yeah, hockey is
right there too, but that's read smaller. Do
you remember the bat bag that was like it had
leather on the ends and it was nylon? Yeah, and
it was two freshmen's job to make sure that thing
out there dug out and in the AD and our coach
had to make sure that there was at least two
bats purchased a nice 32 and a nice 36 and if
you were rich you had your own Right now every
single kid from tee ball up two back two bats
in a backpack cleats on the top of those Turfs
Like this is a this is a rotten baseball era
and I'll admit don't get me don't stop it and
then the heckling J like Like the worst players
have like the most insulting heckles like they
want to Like they would never say to a person
face to face like the mall, you know what? You
mean? Yeah, but they could hide behind you can't
go to the mall anymore They could hide behind
the Oakley's and yell this stupid stuff Ask the
commish. We missed the commish. I saw a great
interview today about, and you Yankees fans will
appreciate it. It was by Mike Lowell. And he
said the most dominating pitching performance
he's ever seen was game six of 2003. They were
talking about best pitching. They said Josh,
he goes, he goes, I was so glad I wasn't, I never
had to face him. He goes. He was so good. He
goes, that was the best, one of the best lineups
he's ever seen. Three days rest. And he goes,
they had no, he goes, guys like Bernie Williams
who contacted him was phenomenal. He goes, they
had zero chance. I was watching the highlights
day just because it was the Yankees. So I wanted
to see them striking out. The last out was. Well
said. He goes, I've never seen hitters look like
defeated before they went up to the plate saying
that day, nobody was going to hit that guy. I
mean, he was good for the Red Sox. He was never
that guy, but he was. You know how deep into
the game they let him pitch right now? He pitched
a shutout that game, right? The whole game, right?
He pitched like a three -hit shutout, yeah. But
you know how deep the Yankees would let him go
if he had that kind of stuff going? He'd go six
strong, maybe 6 .1. 90 pitches, right? Oh, yeah,
clicker. Whatever the clicker says, you're out
of there. Six and one batter into the seventh.
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Brewing. Pink lemonade shandy. Enjoy it at your
local golf course. Jeffy. Yes. Baseball trivia.
I've had a couple, but I'm going to ask another
one because I was watching somebody who's active
right now raking one yesterday. And it's the
only player in major league history that has
80 home runs and 50 stolen bases in their first
300 games. Shit. 80 home runs, 50 stolen bases,
first 300 games. Delafruz doesn't have 80 home
runs yet, so. Mookie. Nope, he's National League,
active today. Still on the younger side. Younger
side, so he's not young. Tatis, boom. Tatis,
boom. You know what I was gonna say about Machado
before was. Shouldn't count. Why? He's a PED
guy. Asterix, Asterix next to it. He's a PED
guy. All right, so. That's one of the reasons
I like Machado is he told off to tease it one
of those times he was tantruming or making it
about himself You know, I kind of didn't like
Machado for different reasons. You've hated him.
Yeah previous. Yeah. Yeah, but You know, I respect
that. He did act like a jackass in a couple of
those were. I do have another good one. Somebody
slid into him. I might have asked this last time
to stop me if I did. I probably did. Smart move
here. Smart move, Jeffy. I agree. The only player
to hit their 500th home run in a match uniform.
George what? No, he didn't. So listen to that
question closely. 500th home run while in a Mets
uniform. Carlisle still got now. I would have
never, you guys know way more than me about sports.
Rusty? Never would have guessed. He's not a catcher.
Oh. I think I know what's his name. Piazza? Yeah.
He didn't hit five, didn't he? Oh man, what a
great question. The majority of his career was
not as a New York Met, obviously. Definitely
not as a Met, yeah. Beltran couldn't have 500.
I'll give you one other team he played on that
helps. Yankees. Good family lineage. Nephews,
uncles, cousins, you know. Wow. He played for,
I think he played for the Tigers. Sheffield.
Boom. He did play on a lot of teams, right? I
don't know how with them. Yeah, but it was the
match for a little bit. Who was his best team?
Marlins. Right before the Yanks, right? Marlins.
When he was young. He could run a lot then. He
had some good years with the Yankees. Was he
still a third baseman then? No. With the Marlins?
No, he was an off -healer. He came up with the
Brewers at third. Yeah, and he threw balls away
intentionally. All right, speaking of throwing
balls away, Angry Jay's Bracket Challenge brought
to you by Capital Securities and Joe Moriello,
Vice President, a life. Well planned. All right,
this week's episode of the Angry Jay Bracket
Challenge has nothing to do with throwing balls
away. It's actually throwing balls on the mound.
So this is how it rocks today. Intriguing. We're
gonna go nominator balls. Yeah We're gonna have
16 Major League baseball pitchers from 1980 on
We got that 1980 and yet you had to make your
debut from 1980 a little before the G to rather
go. Yes So then there's no Tom Seavers. There's
no Bob Gibson Steve Carlton people start crying
about oh this guy so cool It is who would you
want on the mound for game seven? Your season
on the line starting but I love this. I love
this. I'm actually I'm actually f -17. We have
one plan angry J I couldn't I'm not I'm reading
this new baseball block I have to throw this
out there to your trivia question speaking of
guys from around then Phil Negron one career
home run You know, we hit it off of Joe. Yep,
his brother Joe go. Okay. All right, so we got
one plot. We got a one Plan like it was Josh
Beckett one of your guys if not, no You want
me to put him in it? I'm in the point and then
I got it'll be a plan Brett Saber -Hagan has
just been eliminated by the Donald Trump, and
we're putting in Josh Beckett. Studio engineer
Kevin Ross and brother Jim, you guys are in on
this. Everybody would have said Josh Beckett
over Saber -Hagan. Just get close to that mic,
fellas. I don't know. So this is just for playing,
okay? Just to get into the dance? Yeah. Okay.
So Josh Beckett as the 14th seed against John
Smoltz. Crocker, you're always to my left, you're
starting it off. There's gotta be Smoltz. He's
laughing about it like yeah, we just shut out
Definitely sports. I'm gonna go Beckett. I'm
going back into I like small to the reliever
of Beckett Yeah, I'm going small since it's pretty
easy there small season. He's now into the big
dance Josh Beckett and his 20 Marlin ass chicken
in the clubhouse. All right, here we go our one
seed Don father Greg Maddux CC Sabathia. Craig
Maddox. Maddox. Maddox. Maddox. Oh my god. I'm
going Sabathia. One game, dude. This is a one
game. So why'd you put him as a one in 16? I'm
just saying. Because we had a ranking. I got
a ranking, dude. Because I knew you buffoons
would take Maddox. Dominant performance. Maddox,
the mad dog, is moving on. All right. Same bracket.
Mike Messina. Max Scherzer. Scherzer. That's
what I was going with, Scherzer. Sure sir moose
Pains me but moose. Yeah, I'm going sure sir,
too I love you just like that. He threw up or
something at a red eye one time or something
No, actually, I like the fact that he's a badass
That's a couple years of in that here. We go
Don father your man rocket Roger Clemens Tom
Levin who Clemens Just 4 and 13 seed back here
It's gotta be Clemens and Cleven got roughed
up in that All -Star game if you remember. Go
ahead. All -Star game, sorry. This is game seven.
Clevens. Clemens. Aw, Rocket Man's in. Ditto.
Clevens. We can't have all the Braves starting.
We're going chalk. Everyone's chalking. And here
we go. Back to you. Your guy, Kurt Schilling.
David Cohn in the 5 -12 bracket. Give me the
sock. Schill. I'm gonna go with Cohn. Schilling.
Man shilling was dominant. I gotta go shilling.
She'll baby That's over shillings in who are
you taking angry? I'm gonna call him. I love
calling. I'm a homer All right 314 John Smoltz
made it into the bracket today. He's matched
up against Pedro Martinez Pedro game seven. This
is one game now. I don't remember you just like
it's nuts Who'd you take career right here that
Peter? Is this going six week we ended we have
to end this or Pedro is anyone saying small I
am but okay then Pedro Pedro Pedro wasn't as
crazy was wasn't anywhere as good as people We're
going clean Kershaw Roy Halliday in the 6 -eleven
game holiday holiday holiday Sam Doc Kershaw
Terrible postseason guy. I'm going holiday through.
Yeah, he Kershaw has not miss his postseason
All right, 710 matchup Zach Greinke Justin Verlander
Are they pointing in New York? I'm gonna say
verlander verlander verlander verlander verlander
verlander verlander verlander verlander Be a
panhandler. He's still married, right? Yeah,
he is. Just asking. Roger, here we go. What's
her name? Randy Johnson, Johan Santana. Randy.
Randy. Randy. Kill the bird. The other guy's
underrated. I know. Also, unit not great in the
postseason. Well, you got to go unit though,
I guess I'll go Johann people forget about that.
Yeah He was very good, but I'm going Johnson
to our elite eight Greg Maddox Max Scherzer.
Oh Maddox Maddox Maddox Maddox Wow, really? I
was gonna go Scherz. I'm going Scherzer too,
but we get rocket Clemens Kurt Schilling game
seven We had this, by the way, in 2000. Who was
it? I'm going with the attitude, I'm going Clements.
Clements and Schilling. I'm going Clements. And
Louie Gonzales is off his thumbs because he was
on steroids. Schilling. Cost us some. Clements,
so we got one here. Who did you take it? Clements.
So it's three to one? Schilling. I'm going Schilling
too. I'm the deciding vote. Schilling's in the
final four. Wow. I didn't see that coming. The
rocker, I misremembered this one. Actually a
good one. Freakin' liar. Pedro and John Somal.
Pedro and Roy Halliday in the lead eight. Pedro.
Doc. I'm remembering the postseason with Pedro
a little more than I just talked about. I'm gonna
go with Doc. I'm going actually Doc too. It's
over. Doc is in the 11th season of Final Four.
You always get one upset, Jay, and you always
have an upset. And the last one to make the final
four appearances in the playoffs. Randy Johnson,
Justin Verlander. Verlander. Oh my god. Verlander.
Verlander. You guys are drunk. I'm going Verlander
too. Randy Johnson eliminated his foot. 18 to
1. Out of all this, this is the guy I would pick
to finish. He's out. Unbelievable. Remember the
time they played the 183rd game before all the
wild cards? And he pitched it. 183rd, 83 is kind
of hard. You know what I meant. And then he pitched
a complete game. That was amazing. Who was that
against? I think it was the Tigers, but I'm not
positive. But they also... With game six against
the Yankees. Did you guys see the 2000 World
Series? It's the reason we didn't know for Pete,
for God's sakes. Then he came in and pitched
a relief the next day, which is unheard of today.
You guys just took, oh my God. I'm legitimately
upset. I thought this was a game seven thing,
not a game six thing. Yeah, whatever. He pitched
a game seven to him. Jesus Christ. Holy Christ.
Terrible. There was a number two guy in his team.
Terrible Yankee and I can't take it out of my
head with his short hair. Actually, those are
the terrible Yankees. He won 15 games both years.
His short hair. Terrible. He made them. They
made him cut his hair. Yeah, because we're stupid.
And his mustache, right? Yeah, the main guys
won't lead off. Jesus. All right, 5 -0 -4. Here
we go. Kirk Schilling and Greg Maddox. Maddox.
I didn't even get a chance to say my name. I'm
going to go showing you. Kevin, don't lose hope.
Jim Ross. Maddox. Maddox. Showing. I said chilling.
I'm taking chilling too. Shilling is in the final.
This is ridiculous. Lenny's the guy I would have
picked. Well, that's the way it goes. Verlander
and Halliday to make this championship. Verlander.
This is great. Again, people forget this guy.
I'm going to go doc. Verlander. Halliday. I'm
Halliday too. I'm going Halliday too. So in the
finals. with a great racket challenge. We have
the number five seed, Kurt Schilling, going against
Doc Holliday, the 11 seed. You're starting off,
Crocker. I gotta go Doc. Me too. Really? I had
to, I had to. I like an underdog. Let's go, Doc.
Sure. Doc, two to one. Showing. I'm going Holliday
too, I can't take it. Wow, let's go. Crocker,
you're a dead supporty sock. I know, I know.
He also bankrupted Rhode Island, so whatever.
He was phenomenal though. He was phenomenal.
Jay, was he a better Philly or Blue Jay? Blue
Jay, I think. He didn't pitch in the full season.
I would agree with Blue Jay, but yeah. But he
threw a no -hitter in the full season. Better
regular season, absolutely. Toronto. Multiple
Cy Youngs there. Talk about the Yanks on like
a... Afternoon one o 'clock start and then we
couldn't get a shadow's ass park. What was it
called back then? Which one? The old one before
Roger Center exhibition and they had like a million
yards beyond the fence like footballs. They would
pitch something like that. They'd have they'd
have holiday and like AJ Burnett pitch and then
we get like five hits on the weekend. That was
great. Yeah. Did you all heard that story that
was at the time of Maddox Maddox and Eddie Perez
the whole bag well. Yeah. I heard that today.
That's pretty awesome. Do you ever see it? The
documentary. Yeah. The documentary. You guys
hear that when it was Eddie Perez was talking
about it? How he called pitches? Yeah. Unbelievable.
You see how he called pitches? You know how he
did it? He would like for, if he wanted like
a fastball inside, he would stick his glove out
when he got the return throw. And if he wanted
a fastball out or whatever, it might have been
vice, but he would catch it close to his chest.
No one ever caught that? Yeah. They have small
style. Like if you want to throw a curve ball,
he would like almost like pick his nose with
his glove. He did it for his career. They would
have taken that shit to El Tuve and hit it out.
The Maddox, Bagwell story, Maddox was pitching
to him in regular season. It was like August,
something like that. And he told Perez, he goes,
no matter what, don't let me throw low and inside
against Bagwell. And end of the game, and he,
I guess he waved him inside. They were killing
him. Yeah, they were killing him. Yeah, he pitched
him inside and Bagwell hit the ball. He said
it went about 500 feet. And Perez came out and
said, you told me not to go low and inside. He
goes, just wait, just wait. He said he waited,
he goes, wait until the postseason. Postseason
came up, was it bases loaded? Yeah, it came up.
One or two outs. Threw him two, three low and
outside curve balls because he was golfing, waiting
for the inside pitch. Every time when Perez walks
out, he goes, and Maddox said, I told you three
months ago what was going to happen today. That's
freaking baseball right there. That's pretty
cool. That's a freaking great story. They show
the actual pitches. That's awesome. That's a
crazy good story. I can't believe Randy Johnson
didn't make the final. I'm stunned. Let's talk
stolen bases real quick. Sure. You want a trivia
question? Yeah. All right, let's get after it.
Since 1920, we're looking for the most stolen
bases. It's Crocker's time. We go back to before
the turn of the century for Crocker's time. There's
guys we've never heard of with stolen bases.
So we're going from 1920. Napla Joy? Yeah, Ty
Cobb, those guys. Since 1920, most stolen bases
by position. Oh God. Got that? So like if you
played a different position and stole base, they
didn't count it. How do you do an outfield? Is
it outfield or is it left center? We're going
left center and right. Oh, there's a game, like
you should play it. You put a dollar up and then
you roll dice. And you know what I'm talking
about? No. Called LCR? No, left center and right
center. Do you freaking lose your number one
to an adult party? I know left center and right
center. All right. I was like, anyway, with this
most stolen bases by a catcher in the modern
era. Catcher. You got to give some. It's right.
Right. Right. Good. Too much Pittsburgh Pirates.
Fairly recent. Kendall. Boom. Don Fog. Damn.
Otis Nixon. Otis Nixon. I was going to stop you
guys last week. He got Otis Nixon. Kendall would
have had more. How about this? How about this?
Sliding in the space space. First base. Jason
Kendall had 189, by the way. Need a team. Come
on. I don't think we need it. For first base,
it's a sluggers position. I'll give you this.
Don Fowler was just talking about him. Bagwell.
Jeff Bagwell. Boom. How many? 202 stolen bases
in his career. Can I pause you for one second
on that? Sure. Just as a segue? So you talk about
Bagwell again, so we talked about Bagwell twice
tonight, which is what high school to go to again?
Xavier. Oh my god, that's why he loves them.
That is why I love them. Hartford. He was Ryan
Daniels dad's roommate. Pete Daniels' roommate.
Hartford. He was one of only two players to have
a 30 -30 season while playing first base. Only
two players in major league history. Oh, that's
a great question. Who was the other one? Again,
need hints. Can't have dead time. Come on. Come
on. You guys know this. First base. We talked
about the team about 10 minutes ago. Two minutes
ago. Toronto it's not a Yankee memorable home
run Joe Carter Joe Carter first baby that season
he got 30 30 point first base more than half
I'm gonna call bullshit on that we're gonna have
to look that up all right um commission also
spent time with Jeff Bagwell is in as a here
we go here we go second base Harold did sports
writing second base Hall of Famer Morgan Joe
Morgan, boom. That was pretty easy, right? Third
base. Joe Morgan, 689 by the way. Jose, oh, well
I just gave this number three away. First name
is Jose. Jose Ramirez. Jose Ramirez is cancer.
That was easy. Only active guy. Yes. Okay. Let's
go with shortstop. Ozzie Smith. No. Good guess.
He has 600 games. No, but he's a 1970s player.
He actually played for the Yankees for a while.
And he was number 56, I believe, for the Yankees.
Played on multiple teams. Wow. Mostly with the
A's in the early 70s. First name is Bert. Ernie.
Burr can't get that camping error camp or whatever
his name was left fields Ricky there we go. I
Centerfield Ricky was 1406 by the Lofton. No
boy got six oh ten Coleman six sixty rains eight
no Not Vince Coleman Billy Hamilton. No, I'm
serious. He got a ton. Yeah, no cop answers.
No, no before an 1920 guy. This guy played mostly
with the Royals. Willie Wilson. Boom. Donald
Fowler. I threw a bunch. What number was he?
I don't know. Six. Kroc and I are not good at
numbers. Last one. Last one, right field. I didn't
do that. I didn't look up the picture, but right
field. Vince Coleman? No. Recent player. Beltran?
Oh, I know who it is. I know who it is. Each
row. Boom. Godfather. Wow. No pomade tonight
and he's on fire. I wore off. Had a hat on. Kendall,
Bagwell, Morgan, Ramirez, Campanaris, Henderson,
Wilson, each row. Well, you know what? You could
lock that in because it's not going to change
for the next 50 freaking years. Actually. Because
manufacturing runs is not important anymore.
Some of the teams run. Freak. Ellie Dela Cruises.
He strikes out too much. Anyway, easy one. Only
player elected to the All -Star game under the
age of 20. It's not easy. Elected by fans. With
the old school punch thing. Pitcher? Acuna? 80s.
Robin Young. The 80s. A -Rod. But is it? 80s.
Position. Position. Come on. Pitcher. Pitcher?
Good. Oh boy good. Yeah, he's a boy wonder back
there So the question though why there is less
stolen bases now that you can't throw over as
many has nothing to do with it Nothing to do
with it. I like that would set it up Yeah, okay
picture can't throw over like unlimited anymore.
Do you think now? I agree delivery picture. I'm
off You would think there'd be more and that's
the end of it. I think what the rule was in trying
to do, but like you said, there's not contact
anymore. How many, how many hit and runs are
there anymore? What I'm saying is that those
rules were put in to promote this stuff, but
it's not the reason that there's not more. Like
the batting averages are down. Accepting a walk
is down. Trying to get hit by a pitch. Greg Biggio,
Don Baylor, that great players, both Hall of
Famers. Don's not in, right? Don Baylor's not
in. If he played today, he would be. Might be.
He also stole bags. He stole 50 to him one year.
That, and so we're not on base, and the guys
are humping it in there at 100, and the catchers
have absolute cannons. The catchers are also
on their knees too, you know? Yeah, and they
can't be easier. Well, they're on their knees
because there's no need to worry about the running
game because the pitchers keep it close. There's
more stolen bases now though than there have
been in the last few years. Because of the rules.
I'm saying, Overall, it's not like it used to
be. No, we're not gonna see Vince Coleman anymore,
but I know that sucks You gotta have some balls
to send the guy to Not a lot of balls in the
managers a lot. How many more errors are there
now? You've seen that it's that other errors
increased overall. I don't know Like you said,
we had these guys kick balls, they give him singles
and stuff. Oh, Juan González. How many inside
the park home runs in a week this week? Juan
González wanted to beat up. Did you see the game
winning one for the Giants? Yeah. Bailey hit
the wall. Yeah, that's kind of cool. All right,
guys, we could talk baseball forever. What a
game. But let's move on to Hoops. January or
July 10th tonight. is probably one of the most
hyped up NBA summer league matchups since they've
had it, which is number one pick Cooper flag
in the Dallas Mavs going against Ronnie, who
I like to call the entitled one. And I don't
dislike him. I just dislike what's happened there.
Bronte doesn't even do you guys care in any way?
No, not really. You got to tell why. Be come
up, you know some I'll probably watch a little
bit just cuz it's Cooper flagging I want to see
how he does but again, it's It's kind of cool
to see him play like their first game and stuff,
but it's done You know, it's not really it's
not really the first game, you know, they're
not playing with there Yeah playing with a bunch
of guys that you're not ever these guys aren't
even how many guys are gonna be in the roster?
Correct. Yeah, and you get ten fouls It's unlimited
fall for you. Basically. Not gonna lie, the curiosity
factor. I think Bronnie James game came along
in the year that he played. You know, he didn't
really play the year before because of the heart
condition, you know, before that. I think when
you, I saw stat that, you know, everyone complained,
why did you take him? Why did you take him? And
they looked at every player after him. in the
G League, and his stats were better, significantly
better than every player had picked after him
in the G League. Why they take him is easy, though.
Well, yes. Why the Lakers? Yeah. But he's, you
know, I'm not going to say he's going to be a
complete failure. I think if he's given time
and he plays, you know, plays well, he's got
an opportunity. His younger brother is a better
player. I already hear, too. He's bigger price
or. Yeah, he's going to Arizona or something.
He's a bigger kid. Who I'm intrigued to see is
Hugo Gonzalo. That's who I want to see. Yeah,
I'll actually watch him. For me as a Celtics
fan, he's the most intriguing player right now.
He literally played 10 minutes a game. Real Madrid
or something. I mean, they said he was a steal
the draft. I hope they're right. I will watch
the only because of being a Celtic fan. I'll
watch you do go. Hanson Yang steal the draft.
To Kevin's point, I will watch Cooper flag a
little bit tonight, but I'm not really watching
it for Brian James. OK, so I got into an argument,
disagreement with a friend today. And then another
I asked my younger son because he's locked into
hoops. And he actually took the other side of
the argument, too. And it's that the guy is a
very deserving late second round pick. And their
argument is that why wouldn't he get more time
to develop? The lineage is there. He had the
heart issue, which he was kind of held back for
a year. And his upside is high. And he should
have, he should have this time to develop. And
the one guy told me that he's gonna be really
good. Why is his upside high? I don't agree with
that. Who's ever seen his upside? How do we know
what his upside is? With an average 20 in a G
League. Not not done a lot. I mean because those
guys get JD Davidson He was the player of the
year for the Celtics and he doesn't he doesn't
get a sniff No, I would you guys I'm telling
you the argument. Oh, I'm totally with you guys
I don't see the upside only because he's six
foot two and he he's not a point guard I'm not
saying he can't be an average NBA player. I am
I don't average NBA player make a lot of money
and good for him I mean bus so I said at that
size and that being that poor of a shooter because
It's all about in all these sports, measurables
now, which is what's ruined baseball, right?
So what measurable does he have? He's a shooting
guard. So he's a good athlete. So I said, I said
his potential to be an impact player in the NBA
might be to hound guards and, you know, be like
a light Marcus smart type of guy. So I said,
there's no way he'll be as good as a T .J. McConnell.
And I was laughed at. Oh no, I would agree with
that and no shot. No shot? No, no shot. Agreed,
totally. You never put the effort in to do that,
to be that player. No, he has no shot at that.
Who's laughing at you, your sons? Might have
to smack him around. They're about the same shooter,
I'll say that, because Teter McConnell's not
a good shooter, his shot's awful. Head varsity
basketball coach at a local school. He's not
even a defender like he goes out and he takes
a million shots saying that's what he I'm giving
him credit saying that's maybe what he couldn't
be But still I'll take McConnell hounding on
94 feet. Oh my god, and it's why this game is
you give us Cooper play another game after tonight
Cooper flag puts up like 25 30 tonight though.
Don't do anything with Stephen got a stuff in
castle last year put up like 20 and he they look
super athletic They're like, wow, he's better
than all these guys. You're like, yeah Came down
with a wrist injury. Came down with a wrist injury.
We're going to have to go over all our trivia
after, because Ladi's coming now. So we've got
to go over all our trivia again. We've got to
do everything all over again. None of that. We
need a 20 second timeout. All right. More NBA.
We're approaching a real dead time in sports
with the MLB All -Star game coming up. So we
at least got to start talking about all this
stuff. Can I jump in? Yeah. Will you guys watch
the MLB All -Star game? No. No. Go run Derby.
Home Run Derby? Yeah, maybe. Well, no, since
Tori let it end in a tie, I don't watch. I don't
watch any All -Star games. This is by far the
best one because at least the hitter, the pitcher
tries to get the hitter out, but they're all
terrible. Like, I might have a little bit of
interest in the same thing Kevin says, Home Run
Derby. I know what I would like to see. Try something
different. Like, let's see, like, Elfielder arms
or something. Let's see who's the fastest guy
from second to home or something. Tommy John
competition. Who can we get to have Tommy John
competition? No, no, like an outfield. I like
an outfield. Like H .R .O. throwing it at the
bat or in a barrel or something like that. Something
like that. Skills competition. Yeah, let's see.
Like football is doing now. Well, Jay, this is
the problem. L .A. Daily Crew is going from first
to home or something. One of the bristle boys
applied to be... Put in an application to be
Commissioner of Major League Baseball. And these
changes would be made if they allowed, if they
gave them the job. Because the people surrounding
them, the cabinet, would be up. Speaking of Commissioner,
do you see Rob Manfred is also pushing for a
salary cap in Major League Baseball now? What
are your thoughts on that? Good, perfect. I agree,
it won't happen. They did not say what it would
be or anything. He just said, I was reading about
it today where Manfred is pushing, which means
the owners are pushing for it. A salary cap,
a main thing, baseball. Then they gotta get rid
of the... I think the luxury tax is enough. We
still need to beat up on the Royals on all them.
And by the way, they produce some good players
that we can fuck. It's not slowing the salaries
at all, because obviously we just saw Juan Soto
signed for a billion dollars. Yeah, what a mistake.
I'm glad we didn't get him. I'd take him, but
yeah. For that, no way. And we just had Bobby
Bonilla day, everyone just remembered. Yeah,
we did. What was it, July 1st? July 1st, yeah.
Did you see what, talking about all -star games,
did you see, I'm sure you all have now, what
the WNBA All -Star game, all that? I have not.
I saw Clark came in like ninth or something.
Ninth, that's the player, on the player voting.
I got that. I was going to talk about that. Yeah,
that's unbelievable. You saw that. Like, what
do they have against her? She's good. Yes. I
don't know. She's their money ticket. I mean,
they're idiots to not jump on the bandwagon.
Like, ride the wave. Like, she's going to make
you some money. Did you see what they get paid,
the WNBA All -Stars? $2 ,500. for making the
All -Star team. I know, but they're crying about
their salaries. They don't like her because they've
been playing for 20 years now, right? 20, 25
years. And chips. And now they're getting notoriety
because of one girl, what she did in college.
Right, yeah, no, how come nobody cares about
me? I just think it's hysterical that $2 ,500
to make the team, $5 ,500 for the All -Star MVP.
Everybody, 5 ,500. The winner of the three point
contest makes 60 ,000. Then win the three point
contest. But they had a... Sponsor. The fines
for a fight was like 25 bucks, too. No, no, you're
right. You're right. No, I'm serious. It's all
relative. Every NBA player on the winning team
gets $125 ,000. The MVP for WNBA gets $5 ,500.
For the NBA, they get $125 ,000? Every player
on the winning team. They don't even try. Right.
They don't even try. No. They try in their WNBA,
I think. I didn't watch it go low. In the in
-season. Tournament they the winning team gets
a hundred grand that was you're saying no the
NBA all -star. I know but in that in that other
thing, too So yeah, I thought was like 500 actually
for the tournament. Maybe I don't feel bad in
any way They the ones who are good get endorsement
money So I don't want to hear that Caitlin Clark
makes eighty thousand seven thousand dollars
and Mason Plumlee makes 26 million The NBA brings
in that money so they can pay that money. I agree.
I'm sick of them crying about The WNBA was a
thing and if you remember it went away. And they
brought it back, the NBA brought it back and
said, we're gonna carry it. And they're carrying
it, so shut up about the salaries. No one's forcing
you to play this. You could go be a gym teacher
or get a job with Pac Life. Well, who's complaining
about the salaries? We're playing three other,
this season's so short, you played two other
seasons. Who's complaining? Yeah, all over Instagram.
Oh, can you believe this and that? And I'm like,
what's her face, me -bound girl? She's like,
oh, I can't afford my rent. Well, don't live
there. It's 100 ,000 a month or something like
that. Don't live there. She's doing all right.
I mean, I'll still want it from Bill Burr. I'll
use the G rated version. Go watch him play them.
All the people that are complaining about them
not making enough money. Go watch him play. Listen,
I'll tune into a game. It was a little great.
I'll tune into a game on a TV. My daughter loves
it. My son's like basketball enough to stick
around and watch it. No, they don't. Yeah, they
do. Like for a couple of minutes. No, I'm saying
for five minutes. Like, and if Paige and Katelyn
are on, listen, give me a minute. If Paige and
Katelyn are on, new ball game, right? Because
it's something to watch. But, and you know, I
coach girls basketball. There's a home team in
that league, an hour from my house, and they've
been there for many years. They've won championships.
Here's the number of games I've been to. They've
lost zero finals. Yeah. Okay. I went to one.
You see, you support the league. Good for you.
Nah, it was Maya Moore. Somebody gave me a free
ticket, so I went. I think everybody got a free
ticket for playing for Minnesota. State championship
games have more people. Oh, definitely. The big
ones? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Didn't Paige Becker's
get voted number one for WNBA? For the All -Stars,
I mean. I think she was number one. That's a
popularity thing. That's what they all like.
Goal of what? Shooting. All right, for that,
she's not the best women's player of all time,
not even close. That's what her face. I get it,
but right now... Actually, I would argue Breanna
Stewart is probably... She's pretty good. But
we actually watched it last night for a little
bit. It's Mike Lottabico! Just in time for the
show, everybody. Guys, we are in awe. We are
privileged to have the heart of the Penn State
Nittany Lions in the house. Joe? You might know
him as Lottie. We know him as Lottie Dottie.
He likes to potty. And he's back. He's back on
a podcast. Lottie, you're just in time for the
WNBA segment. So do you guys know what a me -bound
is? Absolutely no. I love it. process. I just
I just learned it the other day. I did. I did.
I loved it. I think it's a great terminology.
It could have been Oh, catching your own rebounds.
There you go. And she's good at catching two
or three of those. Andre Drummond could have
done it. Well, Moses Malone used to do that back
in the day. I've seen a few of those. To try
to win rebounding times. In all honesty, since
that rebound thing came, I actually checked out
her stats, believe it or not. I don't know why
I bored one night. Oh, she's a double -double
machine. She is, but there's not a lot of her
own rebounds. There's not a lot of offensive
rebounds for her. They're not good either. I
love the saying, and it kind of fits her because
nobody likes her. You know, she has a fair amount
of defensive rebounds. It's a fair observation.
And this is why you have the podcast, because
we're talking about WNBA now for 10 minutes.
He's a hardworking American. That's the bottom
line. Yeah, anyway, this me bound thing has got
some steam and I would have bought a shirt just
to have like insult the player But I found out
she trademarked it and she's probably making
money on the shirt. So not gonna happen One last
thing about the WNBA. Oh like no. No, this is
important NBA 2k, which all the kids play look
who's on the cover is very important. So The
new finals MVP and NBA MVP I think One of the
three players on the cover very deserving from
the Thunder. We know who that is Yeah, yeah,
so then there's an old Older player that was
a Nick number seven nugget. He played his best
basketball team He was a Syracuse plays best.
Yep. You're right Carmelo the third player on
that cover this year is me bound really I'm insulted
by it. She's not even close to the most skilled
player. She has no skill. She has no skill. And
she goes, I modeled my game after Michael Jordan.
Which game? Golf? I would say she's probably
not a good golfer either. Anyway, moving on before
our last challenge. It's almost time to go out
and buy your fantasy football magazines except
for you don't have to buy them anymore. You just
go on your phone In most formats who's who's
the top pick or top one to three type chase number
one love them every week Yeah, Barclay's gotta
be pretty high. No, I think he's two or three
a lot of people get in there A lot of people
are putting B John is running back. Yeah, really?
Yeah, he's got shit a lot. He's got shit door
Brian Sipe. Barkley doesn't get a lot of passes.
Welcome back, Lottie. We'll be starting by week
four. Shador? Yeah, I mean, you guys are horrific,
so yeah. Just selling tickets. That's a little
strong. Hey, this is McCaffrey back in a top
three or no? No Mike's a fan if he's the top
quarterback again I'll tell you something about
Christian McCaffrey if I draft him again this
year He'll get hurt by week four if I don't draft
them if you draft them They'll run for and 1600
yards you catch 80 passes and take them. I hate
them I throw them in my five RB5 range. I mean,
I like Saquon. I like Saquon. I like BJ. I like
Gibbs. Yeah, yeah. I got an important question.
Are you guys like me? If a guy stinks in fantasy,
do you like hate him and root against him for
the rest of his career? Absolutely. 100%. I drafted
Nick Castellonus three years ago on my fantasy
baseball team in a third round coming off a great
year. I was pumped. He was like one for the goddamn
summer and I played him every guy every night.
I'm like these do and now I hate him. Like I
I I root against him and every time he plays
against me, he kills me every week. What would
you say if you I'd want to find him? I would
say let's fight. Let's go. We're throwing him.
He would kick the shit out of it. I got why would
you lose the fight? You see the picture of Brock
Holt and Cracker. That's what killed that professional
athlete. I'm washed up. Great guy. Like I root
against him and tell you the story after a lot
of Christian McCaffrey. I drafted last year I
had the first pick I'm in two leagues in year
in one of them. I just been in a yardage league
I had the first pick for the first time ever
You know, right? Yeah. Yeah. I Mean McCaffrey
Derek Henry who he taking this Henry Henry. He
should play plays every day. He's every Sunday
Yeah, Cowboys didn't know that 30 Freaking cowboy,
but Pickens and Lamb next to each other, they
look freaking tough. Oh, don't do that. It's
all one of them doesn't get the ball enough.
Yeah. Lottie, you missed the NBA segment. Do
you like the new look, Nicks and your coach?
Who's their coach? The new look, Nicks, it's
the same team. Same team, a new coach. No, they
got, what's his face? Clarkson. I like Clarkson.
He's crazy. I thought they were hiring the girl
from South Carolina for a while. That would mean
a lot. He probably The Knicks so Knicks are going
to the finals, you know Knicks will go to the
finals because the East sucks I was just gonna
say something they're legit like they might be
the best team. They got ten guys I don't know
why there's no there's no Tatum. There's no Halliburton
next year. You like the coach? No, he's a great
assistant But I wasn't a Tibbs guy, so anything
is better for me. Really? I wasn't, no. But you're
gonna have Mike Brown with Tibbs? Yeah. You didn't
like the fact that he played everybody 40 minutes?
No, I respect that, but... Him getting fired
is pathetic though. Like I want your take on
this because it is diehard. Like 25 years they
had a conference finals. Something, something
happened. Something happened. I don't think it
is what you see. A face value. I think something
was a little bit deeper. I think the players
went in there. I'm telling you probably besides
Brunson and say we're not going anywhere with
this guy. They play too much. Is that part of
it? He's too grumpy. I think he's overrated defensive
coach, obviously. They couldn't guard the three.
They couldn't guard the pick and roll. They were
awful defensively for a team that's supposed
to be built on defense. I do like Clarkson because
I think they needed some punch off the bench.
And I think they needed a guy that can maybe
shoot a little bit. If the Celtics and Indiana
were healthy, they're still much better than
the Knicks, I believe. Well, on the healthy comment
that you said, the two guys you just said who
are out for next year are relatively young players
to have torn Achilles. They had seven players
this year, Tara Achilles, I think they said,
and they were talking about pace of play. up
and down if you if you started watching the NBA
like I did I'm amazed the first quarter is literally
a track race of just who is hot shooting threes
I swear to god there's you know shot shot shot
shot shot and it's running back and forth and
that's why these guys though are breaking down
they think is because they're It's like running
a marathon. Is that the Tommy John of basketball?
Could be. I don't think, yeah. You don't come
back though from it jumping higher. No. You know?
So I heard her point. Yeah. And they're younger.
They're younger than what that injury usually...
I got a couple of theories on that. So I just
want to, I'll throw this out there too, before
you go. I saw this. Pierce and Garnett were talking
about it. The same thing about the Achilles thing.
And Garnett's a little crazy, but his theory
is they have too much specialization like in
the off season training. They don't, yeah, it's
all worn on, you know, your personal trainer.
He's like, we just played pickup like every day
for three hours. And they don't start running.
They don't have training camp anymore. They just.
They have mini camps also. Yeah, they have like
little camps and they put their offense in, but
there's no like old school, like five on five,
getting up and down for two weeks, you know,
two and three days. And that's what he was basing
it off of. Like they don't do anything until
they start running full bore. and the first game
of the year. I'm with you 100 % on that. That's
what I was going to say. It's kind of equivalent
to these young guys pitching every day, 365 days.
You guys probably already talked about it, but
it's equivalent to that. You got to give your
body a rest. You just have to. And you're right.
The specialization and the training. And then
once the season starts, they don't practice anymore.
These guys are losing their cardio. They're losing
that stamina and that endurance. And it just
becomes get on a plane, play. Donovan probably
says this, right? Get on a plane, play, get on
a plane, play, go to a hotel. Laying around the
hotel. Yeah, one little warmup. Kevin, jumping
in real quick, do they, in Portland, do they
practice a lot? No. So they have a game. They'll
practice more now. This is what I know. But I'm
talking like in season. They play on a Tuesday.
Are they practicing on a Wednesday? They have
a walk through probably every day. Between games.
That's not practice. Yeah, they'll play probably
I think between games they practice a little
bit. But it's not like a, is it like a? No. It's
not like a Dan Hurley practice obviously. It's
a. Eighth of what Dan Hurley probably did in
practice. Yeah. Yeah. Remember in a Celtics training
camp, they'd play at, what is it, Brandeis? It
was Hellenic College back in the day. Hellenic
College with wooden backboards. Yeah. I think
they have a video of how to learn how to do the
pick and roll in that gym. I had that video,
I guess. They're all wearing sweatpants and sweatshirts
because they're trying to get in shape. Yeah.
Because they don't do anything in the off season.
They didn't. It's kind of like the baseball players
in the back. I mean, if you remember last year,
how fit, this year actually, this last season,
how fit Tatum and Brown came back. They were
like, after winning a championship, they came
back fitter, playing basically a whole quarter
season longer. And they worked out real hard.
And again, Tiger and other people who were over,
put too much muscle on in certain sports maybe.
It's just interesting that the pace of play up
and down is increasingly, I don't think it's
a better, and it's not a better product. Watching
guys run to the three -point line throw a ball
and then even you know as well as they shoot
it It's not a good play. I couldn't agree more
with that And then as a big guy watching a big
guy try to keep up. Yes. Yeah pace of plays,
right? But there's no fast break basketball anymore
to the basket like James Worthy used to get the
ball on the right wing, right? You don't you
don't nobody's filling lanes anymore. They're
running to the three -point line Well, and Tatum
got a lot of rest in Paris last year, too, so.
They don't know what some some I was trying to
bring up before and now we're back on hoops.
Speaking of that Paris thing, which that stuff
is just unreal, right? Do you think LeBron will
go there? To where Golden State? I've heard a
lot of that stuff. Who cares? It would cost some
Butler and a pick. If you're going to say would
you do that you'd rather our Butler or LeBron?
I don't I mean didn't LeBron just take a contract.
Yeah, like 30 Someone says What why is he? Why
so I know they're gonna want to win? Why is he
taking 50 million? Why does he take 20 million
give him 30 million to play with the green players
in need to win, but he You know the guy's worth
a billion already. They got a big three now.
Yeah, who's that? I got yeah, three hey, and
oh my god You got a 36 million dollar payday
out of this cuz he got 20 something from Portland
like 16 from so he's getting a lot of love for
a bust Yeah, he can play. I mean if you it's
from what I've seen It's it's effort when he
wants to play, which is a problem. Yeah. Well,
that is a problem. Yeah. Let me let me put all
my chips on a guy who when he tries, he's good.
Yeah. No, that's why they didn't. They took it
cheap. But he could. I mean, the guy could play
if you want. That's the point. I think he's talent.
They're trying. He's talented. Show flashes.
Yeah, he did. In the first two years. NBA. You'd
rather have Andre drumming or him. Now. I mean,
I don't want either one of them, but I said one
or the other you have to have one of them on
your roster I do I have to keep Drummond led
the league in rebound. Yeah, he's done. Well,
like I would take Drummond if I only have to
pay is the one year but I'm not thinking He's
a winner championship with Lebron on then you
take Ian. I guess Drummond can't move around
anymore. Whatever. I mean you asked me how about
how about Dame landing spot for Dame Celtics?
Are you serious? Yeah, I've never heard that
one are they putting on this season anyways right
so yeah he's not playing this year he's gonna
come back what number will he wear who cares
he's gonna come on zero he's gonna come back
off the bench and he's they're gonna play in
like 25 and it'll take 25 well he's in a 25 minutes
how about you honest who's staying there i don't
I mean, if he ever changes teams, it'll be like
Miami. That was my next thing, is Miami ever
gonna get a guy? Well, they think they got guys.
If you ever follow Twitter, they think every
guy is a guy. Well, Tyler Heroin, the franchise
guy, I hate to say it. All right, moving on.
Duncan Robinson moved on, did you see that? Division
III guy. Love it. So, last podcast, we had the
President's Cup Challenge. Crocker still doesn't
understand the rules, but just another way to
associate some name while everybody else kind
of but um We got up to the president six Monroe
Or Madison, I don't know yeah So we're gonna
go on to the seventh president Andrew Jackson,
we're gonna stick with the name Jackson now.
Here's the game I'm gonna give you a jersey number
and a team of four NBA, four NFL, and four MLB
teams. Actually, I won't give you the jersey
number on a couple. I'll give you different hints.
You're gonna tell me which Jackson it is. Okay?
All right, I'm not really paying attention, but
go ahead, yeah. That's sharp for the podcast.
Let's do it. Which Jackson is it? Number 22 for
the Dallas Mavs among other teams. Jimmy. Jimmy,
do you want to go to college? Ohio State. What
number pick in a draft? Six. Who? Three. Four.
Okay. Five. You guys are close. This is a Lottie
segment here, so if you could let Lottie go first.
Number 13 for the Knicks. Mark Jackson. See?
I like this one, a little bit of a challenge.
Number 10 for the Kings. Reggie? Anybody? Eddie.
No. Not Reggie? Reggie. I think he went to Minnesota.
I was going to say he played for the Big Ten.
Why is the first name not coming to me? Got three
seconds. Three. Isaac. Bobby Jackson. Bobby Jackson.
Welcome back. Look at Ladi. 24. Ding ding ding.
No. Clearly Bobby fed these questions to his
neighbor. We gotta look at Bobby Jackson's number.
Go ahead. All right. He was 24. Was he? And you
got the king. King's was most important. Thank
you. All right. Another Nick. We never saw him
play on television, but not that old. Phil. You
know, Bobby Jackson is a coach for the Sacramento
Kings right now. I can name that tune. You know
what number it was? I'm looking it up right now.
No, no, no. We're talking Phil Jackson. We moved
on. She's like 17 or 18. 18. Good job. We're
going to the NFL, friends. And the first two
are... Ball. No, first two are linebackers. 57
for the Saints. Ricky. 57 for the Broncos. Tom.
Tom. Where do you go to school? Tom? Wisconsin.
Come on, I used to say all the time on that.
Louisville. Louisville. All right, next one,
tough. You got to be a fantasy pay attentioner.
80, wide out for the bucks. Huh? Vincent. Vincent
Jackson. 83. And then the last one for Angry
J. You can't say this one. You can't say it's
for these other guys. And you can't punt the
ball to the sky late in the game. One I already
said. What did you say? Deshaun. You got it.
All right. School. I don't know. He was a West
Coast guy, but. Cal? No. Yes. OK. Got in for
his brains. I think he's a great player though,
underrated player. He's a good player. I'm gonna
ask you something, Hall of Famer or no? I think
so. Look up his stats. I'm just gonna tell you
something. The only guy who has more 50 -yard
touchdowns is Jerry Rice. Is that true? It's
not a terrible company. He's not getting it.
Well, the NFL is still tough, I think. Not like
the major leagues. There's a lot of guys, that's
why. All right, Jay, you gotta lock in for the
baseball. So the first one. I'm trying to find
Bobby Jackson's number. I know, but you gotta
lock in for the baseball. This guy, for the Oakland
A's, wore three different numbers. One was the
Kansas City A's. 31, nine, and I can't tell you
the last number. Reggie. Reggie. Okay, that was
the easy one. We're just getting loose. The next
one, not a number, but 23 game winner. He's a
left -hander. Danny. Okay, 35 we talked about
complete games before how many um complete games
that he have Danny Jackson when he the year he
won 23 with the Reds Well, you want with the
Reds not the no, I'll go 18 starter Royals you
went to the Reds next is higher 15 That's pretty
impressive. That's 13 fewer than the whole major
leagues right now. That's crazy. Jesus. The next
one. Drafted by the Yanks in 2005, but on December
8th. Cost him. Was traded for... Who you got?
Grandy Man. Was traded for the Grandy Man. Three
team trade. There was one other big name in that
trade. Pitcher. You love the guy. Think he went
from the... Diamondbacks. Sure. Yeah, it was
Scherzer. Diamondbacks to the. We got the granny
man. Do you remember the lefty reliever we sent
with Austin Jackson? Because I hated him. Number
45. No, wasn't named after. It was. Who was it?
Who was it? With the Tigers. Yeah, he wasn't
bad. And then the last Jackson number six. I
forgot about Austin Jackson. That's a good one.
Number 16. He was terrible. He was terrible.
He was terrible. Digress 16 for the Kansas City
Royals also play a little football. Oh, I like
to call him Vincent Edward. All right bonus you
got a minus five batting college Where do you
go to school? Yeah, that was when they had the
minus yeah Yeah, even I hit home runs into mine.
Yeah. Oh my god. He must have killed somebody
would have killed All right bonus segment here
Andrew Jackson, I knew one of his nicknames.
I didn't realize he had three. I knew Old Hickory.
Stonewall. He's old. That's Jackson. That's Mr.
Twenty Dollar Bill. That's not Andrew Jackson,
but it is Stonewall Jackson. I don't know that
president. No, it's like a general. All right.
So yeah, a little too early. So listen up. His
nicknames. How many stone pieces he has. Stonewall?
That was before 1925. His nicknames old hickory
the hero of New Orleans and King Arthur. So in
the movie Hoosiers guys, there's a layup to get
loose Who was the mascot or nickname of the hickory
team? Oscar the Huskers nice try next the hero
of New Orleans Who would you guys say is the
hero of New Orleans if you got the name one true?
Okay, I've eliminated Drew Brees Ricky Williams
Got a guy and they want a Super Bowl with him.
I don't hate that Archie That's what I got a
500 season doesn't matter. He's Archie. He's
Back of the Pete Maravich was he in New Orleans
long enough. Yes. Wow the hero of New Orleans
Where was he from LSU? Yeah, so what was he from
New Orleans? No idea Yeah, he had to be. Larry
Bird scored 60 points at the University of New
Orleans, though. Relax. Larry Bird. Remember
those highlights. Were you watching the game?
Oh, God, yeah. All right. Right in front of the
TV. Eight inches from the big screen. All right.
Two parts on the next one. His last nickname,
King Arthur. There's any other kings you could
like with the nickname King? We can't say the
one I don't want to say because he's not my king.
But is there another king? Is Gretzky the king?
He was the king, yeah. Who else is the king?
Oh, Jim Liritz. That's right, of course. Any
other kings? Bobby Jackson's number. 24? Yeah.
Not out of Minnesota. Ripken? You're one of the
13 with the Nuggets and number 8 with the Oklahoma
City. Is there a boxer with him? You gotta move
forward. We got it. He was 24. Was there a boxer?
King? Oh! Yeah! Is Mike the king? No. King Rice.
You're thinking the caroliner motor? 21. Who
went there? Don King? No. No, somebody was the
king. He said boxing. Forget about King, because
I didn't even... He's the executioner, I think.
That's not really the king. Alright, so how about
this, though? Arthur. Who are the best Arthurs
in sports? I know you love one. Ash. Who else?
I got monk Yeah, how about art how Do you play
with the A's or the Astros? He said the best.
Both. He's a manager for the A's. Any other arts
that were good? I mean Art Howlin got it off
me. He was 82 years old. Not true story by the
way. Art Whitehead was a really good high school
player. Oh, let's go. Legendary. Art Ham Anybody
else? We're about to wrap it up here on July
10th 2025 Lottie Dottie back in the studio, but
Lottie I hate to go back to this I don't know
if it's good air time, but like just real quick
your take on LeMahieu and the state of the Yanks
real quick I think the Yanks are fine They need
a third baseman. I had no problem with them getting
rid of the Mayhew. We said it for months, you
and I, right? We said put Dominguez lead off,
get a third baseman, bat Volpi ninth, and they
would take off. They haven't batted Volpi ninth
yet, but they need a third baseman. Maybe Suarez
at the deadline, but the arms are going down
quick. Art Garfunkel. Art Garfunkel, good one.
They need some arms. Simon Garfunkel. He played
for, yeah, played with Simon. Yeah. They need
some arms. Central Park was his place. You know
who else needs arms? Everybody else in baseball,
so. Yeah. I think the Yanks will be fine. Schlitler?
I actually like Will Warren. He's been pitching
well. Yeah. Schmidt was kind of a blow because
he had to pitch in well too, but that's what
happens with these guys nowadays. You heard Lottie.
The Yanks are back. Are the Yanks back? Well,
they're getting no hit tonight, and it's in their
seventh inning. So after today, they'll be back.
After today. It's been a tough month. And are
the Knicks? Can you just put them in the finals
right now? Yeah, put them in the finals. Who?
Who are they going to play? No, just say the
name of the team again. I like it. The Knicks
are going to the finals. Without a doubt. Brown's
record? Brown's record will be four and 13 again.
But no Watson, so I watch. I'm going five and
12. I think they get hot at the end. I got a
hypothetical here though. We're going back to
the basketball hypothetical. If Halliburton doesn't
tear his ACL in game seven, do they win, the
Pacers? No, but I think it's right to the wire.
Yeah. Toss up basically. What was the score when
he got hurt? They were down seven? It was the
first quarter. They were winning. First quarter,
under first quarter. Yeah, and he had hit three
threes already. I don't think any games the Pacers
played this postseason were Like blow out textbook
games like you don't you can't count them out.
Yeah, who knows? Rooney are Rooney. There you
go. Right. It was Steeler owner. I know where
I'm going to be. I'm going to think about it.
You know that. He's thinking players. I wasn't
thinking studio engineer. Real quick. The the
Turner thing, I think, crushes them. Now, where
did he go? Rocks. Yeah, no, I think they're.
Yeah, they're done next year. They're not the
team for next year, but I'm just Turner's got
like another guy. You don't miss out there for
a big guy. Nice player. Alright, we're wrapping
it up. Yanks are in the playoffs. Lottie proclaimed
it. Knicks are in the finals and the Brownies
are back in the mix. Thanks for listening, everybody.
Bristle boys. Everybody bristling. Bobby Jackson,
number 24.