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And we're back!

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May 30th, 2024.

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Where's the time gone?

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It's been a minute since we've been in here.

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But the Bristol boys are back.

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When I say the Bristol boys, I mean,

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studio engineer Kevin Ross.

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Can't happen without him.

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I mean the Donfather.

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Not traveling.

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Mr. Guys.

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Lot of pomade as usual.

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Angry J.

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I wish we could say the feeling was mooshful, Don.

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Oh boy.

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Loaded for bear.

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Coach Lotovico, Lottie Dottie, out there working hustling.

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He'll be here as soon as he's done with work.

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He's going to jump right in.

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And the commish has the night off with a little Cirque Delay treat

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with the lovely Patty.

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All right, today we're going to cover the NBA Playoffs,

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Avi, Celts already in.

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We're going to talk about baseball.

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We are in the throws of it.

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56, 57 games in for each team.

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Obviously, we're going to focus on one team more than most of the others.

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Got a little word association game coming.

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We got trivia from the Donfather.

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We got trivia from the Angry One.

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And also a little who would you rather?

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Tonight, we got a nice guest.

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We got a great guest tonight.

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Angry J.

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Do you remember playing high school baseball and going up against the Gilbert Yellow Jackets?

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I do.

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Do you remember who their coach was?

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Their skipper.

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Their one Moe Mohart.

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Wow.

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That guy played in the major leagues.

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Did you know that?

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I did.

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Donfather, we're going to educate the fans tonight about baseball.

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Old school baseball.

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We're going to listen to the one and the only Moe Mohart.

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We're expoetic about America's game.

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And not only a Chicago Cub, but a Yukon Husky and one of a kind Yukon Husky.

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A Gilbert Yellow Jacket.

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I think they're still the Yellow Jackets.

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Did they change it or did they offend all the other color Yellow Jackets?

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They are still the Yellow Jackets.

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A Hartford Hawk who coached a Hall of Famer at Hartford, a western colonial among others.

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But we're going to start off tonight with our interview with the great coach, Moe Mohart.

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And it's time everybody.

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We're welcoming in one of the legends of baseball in Connecticut, New England and beyond.

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We have a treat.

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One of his sons, Darryl, will be chiming in.

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Darryl, a great player in his own right.

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But we're welcoming in University of Husky, Chicago Cub and Winston's own coach, Moe Mohart.

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Welcome, coach.

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Thank you, Bob.

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Thank you.

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All right, let's get right down to the nitty-gritty.

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We're going to do a little background stuff then we're going to get to the juicy baseball stuff.

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So, grew up in Manchester.

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You played all three sports or more than that?

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No football?

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No, I played...

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No, that's a funny thing.

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I weighed 126 pounds of freshman in high school.

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but we used to play tackle football.

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I said, that's weird.

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Who could use your hands on a ball?

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I ran down underneath the goal post.

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I said, this is where I'm trying out.

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That worked out pretty good because you took those goalie talents to Yukon, right?

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So spoiler alert, you're the only American in two sports, the University of Connecticut,

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Did you attempt basketball at all?

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I was playing basketball.

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I played three sports my freshman year.

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It was third semester, so I was ready to go back at the end of it, ready to go back to basketball.

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So that worked out all right.

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Just like the kids today.

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So we've had two Yukon Husky basketball players interview on this show.

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Donovan Klingin and Rashel Mel Jones, both on championship teams.

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Did you watch the Huskies run this year?

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Oh, sure.

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Does it remind you of kind of like old school a little bit, how prepared they are and maybe

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not old school, but just sound fundamentally that they were?

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And they play defense.

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They'll wear you down on a defensive end of the floor, and they take it very seriously.

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And you can always take it.

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The guys will take a possession off on defense.

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They'll just float around and they'll take it to the ball again.

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They're serious about their defense, and I think that's what makes them.

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Seems like a common theme among champions.

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I mean, if you can, in basketball, of course, you can physically wear them down, too.

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It's not like the guys stand out there in a pitch and bound or hitting, clean up or

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something, and you can't do anything but throw the ball to them.

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You can physically determine what this guy's going to do, and keep them from getting the

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you while their guards have been, they have the defensive guard, and they have the playmaking

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a whole new roster.

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Well, one guy's coming back, we know for sure, and announced yesterday, right?

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He's a guy that does all the good stuff.

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Yeah, he's a good one, that team.

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Coach, the Yukon Husky baseball team, Hook C, they're heading out to the Oklahoma regional

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to face the Dukies in the first game.

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Let's talk about your time as a Yukon Husky baseball player.

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We went to the College World Series.

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Of course, in those days you had your, Mac, you had your freshman team, right?

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get your free down the ground and then the classroom.

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So my sophomore year, my senior, we went to College World Series.

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And 10 innings, two to one.

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We would have won three years in a row.

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But we did go, we did go my sophomore year.

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And we won three games.

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Dick, how we played against Florida State with Dick Hauser, the manager,

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he was a shortstop for Florida State the year we played out there.

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At the Royal guy?

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Yankees.

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He got fired up.

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Dick Hauser, he was on that team.

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We played in the World Series.

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We beat them, but we lost to, I forget who it was, knocked us out the third game.

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Coach, was that in Omaha too?

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I mean, was it in Omaha back then?

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It was Omaha.

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I don't know exactly what year they started it.

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So yeah, we played out there.

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And then our senior year, we lost one game in a regular schedule.

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We lost a game.

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teams like that.

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We always opened the season with a double letter against the University of Maryland.

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We played a three game series, but we always, that's how we used to open the season.

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whatever, those teams in that area, Wake Forest.

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I forget what we did on the Southern trip, but we came back and we lost.

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I think we lost one game in the regular season.

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But then we went on, we lost.

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We lost two morale.

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Is it true that you guys did not have to play in a regional that year?

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That's right.

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That's true.

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They did want us, they're afraid we might have got upset by somebody.

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So they, they limited the regional around here and they just sent us right to Omaha.

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And I think that hurt us because we were hanging around for two weeks and we wouldn't do anything else.

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I was, I was going to Hartford Twyle League and we were skippers in games, teams in the Hartford Twyle League.

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You know, get a little, yeah, that's what we were doing.

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We were hanging around on campus and there, of course, all the other teams are gone.

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They're done for the year.

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And I think it, we lost, we literally lost our edge.

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You know, we came and we, we lost two in a row.

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Coach, I'm just going to jump ahead and then we're going to come back.

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But like when you say that, it makes me think of, there's two different philosophies of high school coaches nowadays.

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You know, the ones that, you know, get bounced out of their conference tournament or maybe have a buy in early in the state tournament and they scrimmage once or twice.

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I'm not a fan. I'm wondering where you stand on scrimmaging between regular season and state tournament and high school.

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And then we'll come back to the Huskies.

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Well, I'll tell you Bob, I'll tell you where it starts.

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You remember you had three week preparation before the season started.

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And we were, of course, we were in the gym and we were, we always did it the same way.

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We let the girls do their softball for an hour and a half and then we came in.

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We just let them right after school, they got to gym because we stayed later.

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And so we had all the time we needed or wanted for any given day.

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And then, so what happened was, we, I, this is, this is the truth, Bob.

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I played one, we played one preseason scrimmage game against Seymour.

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And I think they beat us five to nothing.

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And I told, I made up my mind.

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So we'll never play a preseason game again.

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Get out of here.

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We, no, we stayed in the gym.

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We stayed in the gym.

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We didn't even go outside and practice.

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We stayed in the gym till the first game.

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And, and since we lost that scrimmage game to Seymour, I don't know what year it was.

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And I said, I'm, we're never going to do this.

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I would love it if you came up with a year.

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I forget now.

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Cause one of, one of the podcasters here, Jeff, the Don father, his father was a catcher at Seymour.

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And he's a Hall of Fame.

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He's a Hall of Famer in a couple of different cities.

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But anyway, not there in the top.

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So, so I would, I would imagine in between you don't want to play.

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No, we didn't, we didn't even go out.

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We didn't go out and took BP.

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We didn't go out and take info.

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We stayed out of there because we knew when we had to go out is that we weren't going out and practice.

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I just says, we're not going to go out and practice and take a chance at, you know, some kind of injury,

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pay cold, a cold weather, you know, some of the injured are hands through or arms rolling or trying to hit or whatever with a bat.

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And then we had wood then we didn't use metal.

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And so what, what happened and what we found out Bob was that when those kids went out in the air with a daylight, natural daylight and seeing the ball for the first time.

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It looked like a water melt.

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Those guys just ripped the ball because they, they were in the gym all the time with the artificial light.

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Like caged animals. Yeah.

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Yeah. When they came out, they, they couldn't believe how good the ball looked to them.

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And they said, we're going to do that every year.

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We're not going, we're not, I never, never, never scheduled any scrimmage games again.

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I know you're watching the Red Sox right now.

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How's Povetta doing now?

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He's gave up a bomb, right?

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Yeah. Yeah, they're not wanting nothing.

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Let's go. All right. Back to the Huskies.

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You had incredible teammates there.

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True. And then speak a little bit, a little bit about them and then the draft process or signing process as you're a senior.

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Okay. Yeah. Let me see.

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I'll just go through the lamp we had.

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We had an outfield that was Ken Combs from New Britain.

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Willie Stevens was with Norwalk.

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And I was of course with Manchester.

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That was our outfield.

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And those guys were, I mean, those guys were just unbelievable.

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Kenny, Kenny, one day went, went five, he went five or five or five or six against Rhode Island.

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Against Rhode Island, the games we played against Rhode Island, he was 18 for 23.

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But anyway, he went one day, I just remember this because one day he had five balls through the first base left in here.

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He had five balls through the first base hole and one double down on the latefield foul line in the same game.

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I can't remember every minute of the day.

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We had Brad Leach, John Risley, Bobby Anderson, all those three pitchers, all those four pitchers all played Pro Bowl.

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That's awesome. Is Risley the guy that was at Eastern for so many years?

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That was, yes. That's John Risley.

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Yeah, he was a pitcher.

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And the only two, the second base, the first base and the second base, the only guy that didn't play Pro Bowl.

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Oh my goodness.

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Yeah, short stuff, Tony Antonosi was a sophomore when I was a senior.

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And he played in the Cleveland Indian organization, became an agent for ball players.

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Oh wow.

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And one time he had Daryl Cerberi.

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I thought you were going to say Daryl Morehart.

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No. And third base with Teddy Kosher played Pro Bowl.

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He was from, just so the Mass Lion, forget what Todd and Matthew was from.

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Willie Stevens played Pro Bowl with the Braves.

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The right fielder played Pro Bowl with the Braves, Kenny Colm too.

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And like I said, we had a really good outfield.

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Where'd you hit in the order?

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I hit, myself, when I hit lead off. And then the next two years I hit third.

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And, but they were, they were two things, this funny, there's two pitches I remember, I remember the rest of my life.

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And one's I came up in the base low against Penn State in the first game of World Series on a senior.

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And this guy threw me a curveball and I took it.

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And I still see that pitch. I just went that pitch and I took it.

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I had a ground ball.

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Why did you take it?

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I don't know. Well, because he started me with a curveball.

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Oh, it was the first pitch.

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It was the first pitch. And I still see that curveball now.

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And the other pitch I still see was a fastball by Sandy Colfax.

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And we're playing in Chicago and Dodgers are beating C's pitching.

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Dodgers got a 7-4 in the ninth inning.

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And I didn't know how many strikes, he had a lot of strikes, but I didn't play.

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I was on the bench that day.

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Ernie was playing for his base.

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And then the manager, we had this, we had this system where they tried to get six guys to manage.

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And they each had a different time. They put them in the head coach.

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They called them coach in the head coach. It was a disaster.

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But anyway, the guy that was the manager at the time, and it was two, we had two outs, nine-tenths.

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Colfax is, you know, Colfax is Colfax.

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And we're down 7-4.

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And he got behind me. He sent me up to pitch hit.

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Last guy in the game.

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And we had two right-hand hitters on the bench.

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And the manager still sent me up. Left hand here.

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So I go up there.

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And I get ahead, and I got to take a strike.

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Because, you know, that's just how you play baseball.

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You're behind, you get a 2-0 car, you got to take a strike right.

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And we got two outs, like I said, two outs and a nice.

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And he throws two balls, I'm up 2-0.

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And he throws that fastball. And I have to take it.

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And as a second pitch, I've seen the rest of my life.

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Because he struck me out, he tied the National League record for strikeouts with 19.

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I was a 19th.

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Get out of here.

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Oh yeah, but I still see that 2-0 fastball I had to take.

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Just playing the game, you know.

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Those are the two pitches I still see.

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The curve ball, the kid from Penn State threw me.

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With the base loaded on the first pitch.

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And Co-Fact is 2-0 fastball.

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You know what's funny about that is when you say 2-0, you got to take a pitch.

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The mentality now is 2-0, you got to swing out of your shoes and hit a ground,

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hit a fly-bottle left.

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That's like a good play now.

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You just, when you need runners, you know, when you need runners,

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you got to do anything you can.

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No, we were taught that way in high school, I believe it.

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Hey, talk to me about, how did you end up with the Cubs?

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Like, oh okay.

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So anyway, there were 16 teams, right?

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At the time in the Major League.

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And 12 of them were knocking on my door by senior year.

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And I had played for a guy named Ed Bucky who was a giant scout for the Giants.

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And that's when he's still in New York.

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And he had a team in the Hartford-Tweiler League.

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So in the summertime, I played Legion ball with Manchester,

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but I also played in the Hartford-Tweiler League with him.

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And you know, I thought he was, because he was the first guy that, you know,

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interested in playing baseball.

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He said, yeah, of course.

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Anyway, so I'm playing this, that and the other thing.

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And so, like I said, there were 16 teams and 12 of them were interested in me.

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They were contacting me and this, that and the other thing.

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So we go to Omaha to play in a World Series, right?

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And I was going to, and I told them all, I said, look, after the World Series,

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I'll come back to Manchester and we can talk.

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So they all thought, you know, we were going to do that.

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But in the meantime, Lenny Marillo, who was a scout for the Cubs, he went to Omaha.

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And they had a plan.

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They had, I didn't know it, but they weren't, their plan was,

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don't let them go back to Manchester.

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See if they'll sign now, right?

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So we get a limit.

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We play, we lost the first game.

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So that meant we played the early, we played the first game the next day.

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We played a 10-30 game.

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And we got beat, forget who it was.

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But somebody eliminated us.

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And we're out.

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So about one o'clock in the afternoon, the kids, the guys are getting in our dress.

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We're going to play home to Harfors.

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And we weren't going to take the plane until, I don't know, five o'clock or six o'clock.

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I think it was seven o'clock.

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I'm like that.

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We're going to, no, no, I'm sorry.

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We're going to take the plane the next day.

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So we get through and we're at our hotel at Noma and when he comes in,

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he says, come here, we'll talk to you.

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And they take me to another place in Doberha, to a hotel where he stayed.

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And they got him, who's a, he's a chief scout from New England and the yeast, I guess.

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And they had the farm director there and they had Charlie Grim, the vice president, had to die.

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And I go in his hotel room and the three guys are sitting there.

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And so my father died when I was eight years old.

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My mother brought up four kids and she's working as a telephone operator, right?

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For $125 a week.

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So I'm in that hotel room and they're sitting and they're talking about it.

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And one of them says, how would you like to play center field tomorrow in Chicago?

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I said, can I do that?

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He says, yes.

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He says, you can play center field tomorrow in Chicago.

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And I'm sitting there and I don't know.

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So you got, you know, you got the whole, told me you got the little desk that they have.

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So he's like, come here, sit over here.

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He said sit at the desk.

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So I sit at the desk and Gene Wong, who was the director, farm director,

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he's standing behind me and you know, the pad you have in the desk and I'll tell you the little pad where you can write notes and stuff.

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Pulls the pad down, puts it in front of me.

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And he says, put this down on the pad.

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So he gives me the pen, extended my shoulder and he says, 500000.

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I look at it.

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He says, you know what that is?

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I said, I don't know.

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He says that's $50,000.

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Will you take it?

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And I'm thinking, my mother's working $125 a week and we got four kids and I'm the oldest.

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And I said, yeah, I think I will.

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So I took the $50,000 and he said, you still want me to put it on the field tomorrow in Chicago?

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I said, no.

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I said, no, I don't think I'll do that.

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I said, just send me where you're going to send me.

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And that was it.

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So they're ready to go on a plane.

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And they don't know where we're at.

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I was there from after the game, 10.30 in the morning, probably 11 o'clock or quarter of 11.

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I'm in the hotel.

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Nobody knew where I went.

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And so I walk into the hotel lobby and the coaches are all there.

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He says, where you been?

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Where you been?

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And I said, I just signed with the coach.

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Oh, that's cool.

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Coach, you had mentioned Ernie Banks.

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Yeah.

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For our listeners, obviously Hall of Famer, 500 homerun guy.

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What were your memories of playing with him?

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And were you aware of his decision to move Banks to first base before it happened?

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Well, that's funny.

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No.

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What happened?

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Let's see.

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I went to, after I signed for money, they would take me to spring training.

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Spring training with the big team.

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I always had spring training.

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Then they'd farm me out and I finished the spring training season with the team I was going to play with.

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Right?

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So my first year, my first spring training, they sent me to Lancaster in the Eastern Lake.

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I was there for a while and then they'd farm me out to the Midwest Lake.

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So I finished the season in the Midwest Lake.

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Anyway, then the next year, the next year I had a pretty good year.

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I played in the Northwest Lake and I won the batting championship.

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I was second in RBIs and third in homeruns in the league.

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So I had a pretty good year.

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Not bad.

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They called me up at the end of the year.

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They called me up at the end of the year.

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So I played and then they said that Ernie, of course, he was a shortstop and his knee started by the room.

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It's both knees.

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They started by the room.

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So after I had that good year, about halfway through the season up there, they moved them to the first base.

481
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,000
So, yeah, they moved them to the first base.

482
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,000
So then I...

483
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,000
Back to the health field.

484
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000
Yeah, I said it.

485
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000
So anyway, this is a funny thing.

486
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:24,000
The next year, of course, I'm in spring training with the big club again, like I normally was.

487
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000
And I got dressed and went out in the dugout.

488
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:34,000
The dressing room was a tunnel behind the dugout, right?

489
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:42,000
And you come to the tunnel and you'll be in the dugout in Mesa, at the spring training field, Mesa, Arizona.

490
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:48,000
So I come out the first day for spring training.

491
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,000
And there's about three or four guys in the dugout.

492
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,000
And that's when they had that coaches, whatever they called it, the college of coaches.

493
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,000
That's what they called it.

494
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,000
So one of the guys who called the coach was a... used to be a catcher.

495
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
He's always a manager.

496
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000
A manager guys, coaches guy.

497
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000
And he's, come here, I want to talk to you.

498
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000
So he says, come on. So we're walking down the left field foul line.

499
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Just us two.

500
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:26,000
And he puts his arm around my shoulder because he knew they moved during the first base in the middle of the previous year.

501
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:32,000
And he said, you know, I'm going to tell you right now, before you throw balls spring training, you're going to make the big club.

502
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000
And we're walking down the foul line left field.

503
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,000
And I said, Calvin, I just, I don't want that to happen.

504
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,000
I said, I want to, if I make this team, I want to make it on my own.

505
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000
I don't want to be given a spot.

506
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000
And he said, okay, have it the way you want, but just do it and make the team.

507
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,000
I said, I'm going to make the team if I make the team.

508
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000
So I hit 368 in spring training.

509
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,000
That's it?

510
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,000
Yeah, I hit 368 and in my mind, I made a team on my own. You know what I mean?

511
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Yeah.

512
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,000
And so then I, you know, we broke with a team and he was playing for his base.

513
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000
I was sitting and watching, but I was in Chicago.

514
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
And so that's how that happened.

515
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,000
And I always felt that, you know, I did, I told him I wanted to make the team on my own and I did.

516
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
So I was satisfied with that.

517
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
That's awesome. How great was, I mean, how great was he?

518
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000
And can you speak about the other Hall of Famers you played with on that club?

519
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000
Billy Williams.

520
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,000
We had Billy Williams in left field. We had Banks and Shortstop.

521
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Well, at first base, we had Don Kessinger who was very good. Shortstop, he wasn't Hall of Famer, but we had Lou Brock originally.

522
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Decent.

523
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000
He was, yeah, he was, now he's a Hall of Famer.

524
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Absolutely.

525
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,000
We had, we had Lou Brock. He came up the same year I did.

526
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:05,000
And he was a, he was a right fielder, excuse me, centerfielder.

527
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:12,000
But I'll tell you what, Mac, we played in the instructional league together.

528
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000
And the first time I saw him hit, he's a left hand hitter.

529
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,000
And I'm standing there and I'm in the dugout. I'm watching him. He goes up.

530
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000
He hits a two hopper to the right of the mound.

531
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:32,000
The pitcher comes off the mound, catches a waist high, turns the throw to ball to first base, and Brock's across the base.

532
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Oh my goodness.

533
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:40,000
And I said, what is going on? What is going on? I said, oh my God.

534
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:51,000
And then they trade him to St. Louis for Larry Jackson, who was a good pitcher, but they traded Lou Brock to St. Louis.

535
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
And that was the end of Lou. And then of course he was Hall of Fame, right?

536
00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:02,000
But he, he, he, uh, he didn't take good roots when he was young.

537
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000
He didn't take good roots in the outfield.

538
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,000
And he said, sort of card hard hands, you know, he'd follow what's on.

539
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:15,000
And I think the only guy that I did like, I don't think I'll mention his name.

540
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Do it.

541
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,000
The only guy I remember, he was one of those college of coaching guys.

542
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000
I do. He was one of them.

543
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:28,000
So anyway, uh, I didn't like the guy and he knew I didn't like him.

544
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
I, I, the only guy I never liked.

545
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,000
So anyway, things happen, right?

546
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,000
So Bobby Anderson, one of our pitchers are pitching.

547
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000
And I don't know who we're playing is that Louis, Louis takes a bad route on a ball

548
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000
and then he fumbles the ground ball later on something else.

549
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
And Bobby Anderson is going to come off the mound, right?

550
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Into the dugout and I guess he scored a couple of runs.

551
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,000
And, uh, he didn't say anything to anybody just talking to himself.

552
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000
He said, boy, I need a little help out there.

553
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:05,000
And this manager, this guy I hate, he turned the year he heard Bobby Anderson say that,

554
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,000
but he just said it to himself. He said it down. He's tired of himself, right?

555
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:15,000
And, uh, he's, he got all over Anderson.

556
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,000
He just started screaming, you leave all right.

557
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000
But this is the way this guy was.

558
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:30,000
The next couple of things later, balls lined out to, to right field where Louis or, you know, center field.

559
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:36,000
And he sort of misjudges the ball, right?

560
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
And it goes over his head.

561
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000
And the same guy, he's, you know, he's bad.

562
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000
He's the head guy at the time.

563
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,000
So he's got his foot up on the top of the dugout and he's sitting up there.

564
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,000
And just after he gets over, Bobby Anderson for saying he needs a little help out there.

565
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,000
And he said, loud enough for everybody that died out there.

566
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000
He said, I hope the next one hits him right between the eyes.

567
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
About his own picture.

568
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Yeah, no, no, this coach, he said he said,

569
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000
I hope Lou Brockett's the next line right right.

570
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Oh, no way.

571
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Oh yeah, because he fumbled the ball.

572
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000
And I just said, I hate that guy.

573
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000
And he, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, those, those are the things.

574
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000
First of all, he gets over Anderson for being, like, he just talking to himself.

575
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,000
And then all of a sudden he tells everybody else, I hope the next one hits him right between the eyes.

576
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000
All of famous, still. Get out of here.

577
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Yeah.

578
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Yeah.

579
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,000
Coach, I gotta ask you, the only guy I really, the only guy I really disliked in baseball.

580
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Me and you both.

581
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000
They were mad with each other.

582
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000
I don't like them either.

583
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,000
I gotta ask you, Coach, your first, your first major league hit.

584
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Do you remember who was against?

585
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Oh yeah, I always remember that.

586
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,000
All right.

587
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Can you tell us about it?

588
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000
And do you still have the ball?

589
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000
Yeah.

590
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,000
The, the, uh, we're in Chicago.

591
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
We're playing Phillies, right?

592
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Art Mahaffey, right hand pitcher.

593
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Pretty good pitcher.

594
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:06,000
And, uh, yeah, I just hit a soft, I hit a soft liner to left field, left center field,

595
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,000
and didn't drop the front for base hit.

596
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000
All right.

597
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000
So of course it's one of those things that we do, the head to the other guy, you know,

598
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000
you feel no, because it sort of hangs up there.

599
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,000
And I'm running the first base, and I'm praying, of course I'm praying and running at the same time.

600
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Open the ball drops in.

601
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000
All right.

602
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,000
So it drops in.

603
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,000
And guess what?

604
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,000
I jumped over.

605
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,000
And just as I get to the base, it drops in and I take a turn, but I jumped over the base.

606
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,000
I didn't touch the base.

607
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000
First base goes, goes crazy.

608
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Get back here.

609
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Get back here.

610
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,000
What are you doing?

611
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,000
As I was praying and looking at the ball, I didn't even care where first base was.

612
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:45,000
I just, when I saw it come in, that is all because I totally relieved because it dropped in.

613
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
And he yelling at me to get back to the first base.

614
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000
You didn't touch it.

615
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Did you get, did you get the ball?

616
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Yeah.

617
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Did you get the ball?

618
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
No, they didn't do that.

619
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
No, they didn't do that in those days.

620
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000
No, he never did that.

621
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000
The boys would have played catch with it anyway.

622
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Kyle, Darryl, and Greg would have been out there.

623
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
We'd have been like sand lap, the precursor.

624
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000
All right, so.

625
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,000
They didn't do it.

626
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000
I had another funny habit.

627
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,000
I'm playing, oh yeah, we're home.

628
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000
I got on the third base site.

629
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Today it's on the first base site.

630
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000
But anyway, I thought I got it on the third base site.

631
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:27,000
So I used to, if I got the last out of the inning, see, and I'm going to run the third base and cross the line and go into the dugout.

632
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:34,000
But I, I got a habit in the minor leagues that if I got the last out and our dugout was on a third base site,

633
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000
I'd carry the ball all the way to the mound and drop it on top of the mound in my glove.

634
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Yeah.

635
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
If I got the last throw, yeah.

636
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:48,000
And I'm playing in the major leagues and I, I just did it because I just was like, yeah, I just was like, I have it.

637
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000
And then I come back, I did it.

638
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000
I came all carried all the way to the mound and dropped it on the rubber and went to the dugout.

639
00:37:53,000 --> 00:38:00,000
So when I come back the next inning, the first base up, I say, take the ball to your glove and roll over to the mound.

640
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Oh my, that's funny.

641
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Yeah, it was just a habit.

642
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
I used to do it.

643
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Always said it to me at the time.

644
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000
I used to do it a lot.

645
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,000
And then the first time I did it up there, the guy, wait for it when I come back.

646
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Hey, take the ball to your glove and roll it up to the mound with your coach.

647
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,000
How great was Ernie Banks, honestly?

648
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Oh, he, uh, he never said much, never said much, but he was a very gracy, you know, short stop until he started by them.

649
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,000
And, uh, he grew up to bat.

650
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:46,000
And, uh, he used to twiddle his, twiddle his thumbs on the bat.

651
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000
I never thought he'd do that before.

652
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:55,000
He used to twiddle his thumbs on the bat handle and, uh, he's very quiet.

653
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:03,000
And, uh, you know, he hit the ball and just go, what the, what in the fast, had a long stride.

654
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
What really, really a fast runner.

655
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Could you come compare him to a player within the last 30 years?

656
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Like from two, from maybe the mid 80s on when he's a shortstop in his prime.

657
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Are we talking Larkin or Cal?

658
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Yeah, he'll play for the home run.

659
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
That's true.

660
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:34,000
But, uh, it's, it's hard to say.

661
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Could he hit the ball like Manny Ramirez?

662
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Oh yeah.

663
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Yeah, he backs spin the ball and of course he did carry, you know.

664
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,000
But, uh, he used to, he put his head right over the plate.

665
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Kind of funny.

666
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000
I used to, used to put it in there.

667
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000
You know, they'd have helmets and all that.

668
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
They had a liner.

669
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000
You had no, you had no face.

670
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,000
I mean, you had no ear guard or jaw guard.

671
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Today they got an everything guard.

672
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000
The helmets were without an air piano.

673
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
They were just a hat.

674
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000
They were all they were, some, you know, a plastic or whatever it was.

675
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Coach hat.

676
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Want to move into your, your post, uh, big league, um, life as a coach and mentor to so many.

677
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:27,000
But if you're a coach on a high school team, 2024, are you allowing the sliding mitt in the back pocket of hitters?

678
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000
I don't know.

679
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
I can't stand it.

680
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Yeah.

681
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
I didn't know they did that.

682
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Oh, look, go to a high school game because every kid has one.

683
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Why do they, why do they do that?

684
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,000
To prevent, um, just getting a boo boo on their fingers if they slide improperly.

685
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Watch the red socks tonight.

686
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Somebody will have one in the back pocket.

687
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000
Yeah.

688
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Oh yeah, yeah.

689
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
No, I don't know.

690
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000
You keep your hands out.

691
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,000
You keep your hands off the ground when you slide.

692
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
You don't have to put your hands to the ground.

693
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000
I know, right?

694
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000
And you don't throw them straight up because if you're going to second base and trying to break up a double play,

695
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,000
that guy throwing that ball right over your head, you're going to, I saw a guy break his finger.

696
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Because it would have thrown almost point blank by the shortstop on a double play really.

697
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000
And they said it ends up over his head like that.

698
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
He never got him back over his shoulder.

699
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000
And he looked off of his index finger.

700
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
It seems such a rare play though.

701
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
It's like such a rare play.

702
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000
I can't see parents spending $100 on a, on a mitten.

703
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
I don't get it.

704
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Unless you, well I have one.

705
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000
You got to have two.

706
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Right?

707
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Well, I suppose it's for the throwing hand, but I don't, I don't, I don't know.

708
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000
I just throw, you just throw them back over your head.

709
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,000
I broke my thumb and it wasn't, I broke my thumb playing summer ball in Nova Scotia.

710
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000
They had a league up there we used to play in.

711
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,000
And this big guy named Looney was running the first base.

712
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,000
I got a ground ball and I went over and it was going to be a close play.

713
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,000
And I, I figured I'd, you know, I'd tag him before his foot came down on the base.

714
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Because I was running, I had the ball myself and I was running toward the bank.

715
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,000
And I made the mistake of keeping my throwing hand in the glove.

716
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,000
And when I tagged him in his body, you know, he's sprinting down for his base.

717
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,000
And I tagged him in the belly and it snapped my thumb.

718
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,000
You're throwing hand thumb?

719
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Yeah, I snapped my right because I held onto the ball with two hands so I wouldn't drop it.

720
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,000
So it snapped my, I snapped my, I snapped my left thumb.

721
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,000
And so if that was in my season, I, about three weeks into the season, I had to go home.

722
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,000
I had a, I had a race up, I fell there, so whatever it was.

723
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000
That's a tough injury for a baseball player.

724
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Coach, we're going to fast forward to your Gilbert days, you know, after, I think it maybe finished up some work at Southern Connecticut.

725
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000
That became a coach at Gilbert and it, well, teacher first and a coach.

726
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Yeah, yeah.

727
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:03,000
That's what, in fact, I went to spring training in 65.

728
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:09,000
And they, they started telling me things like, Hey, you're going to be over here.

729
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,000
You're going to be over there.

730
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,000
You're going to be this.

731
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,000
Well, in other words, I became an organization man.

732
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000
See, I wasn't a prospect anymore.

733
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,000
I was going to go where they sent me to go and play where they wanted me to play things like that.

734
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:26,000
I knew, I knew what spring, I did in spring training, you know, and I said, this is what they are.

735
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:38,000
And I walked into the office and the farm director was there and I said, I'm going home about halfway through spring training.

736
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Wow.

737
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,000
I said, I'm going back to graduate school and I'm going to get a job.

738
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
I had two kids.

739
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:50,000
I had Kyle and Darryl and Gregory was in his mother's stomach at the time.

740
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,000
So I would have, in October, we had him.

741
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,000
So I would have had three kids that common, one common time to move on.

742
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
I ain't doing, I'm not doing this anymore.

743
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
I said, I'll see you later.

744
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,000
I'm going home.

745
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,000
So then I, and that was funny because I don't know if you remember this guy.

746
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Red Sox had a picture named Earl Wilson.

747
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Yeah.

748
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Well, Red Sox trained in Scottsdale, Arizona, and that was a short ride from Mesa where we trained.

749
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,000
And I looked in the paper before I was going to, you know, I was going to go home, fly home.

750
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:35,000
And I see this ad in the paper and I said, Earl Wilson is looking for a guy to drive his car to Fenway Park.

751
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
So I go home, nice home up by day.

752
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,000
I'll drive Earl Wilson's car to Fenway Park because I've got to go home to Connecticut.

753
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:51,000
So, like, oh, there's some guy, he's got a Thunderbird convertible.

754
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Right at this car.

755
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:59,000
So instead of taking a plane home or something, I drove Earl Wilson's Thunderbird to Fenway Park.

756
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,000
No way.

757
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,000
I get to home.

758
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,000
I get home to Manchester and I can hang around in high school.

759
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
My best friend out of high school.

760
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,000
He was working somewhere for television plays.

761
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
I guess it's on television.

762
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,000
So he says, what are you doing?

763
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Hey, Billy.

764
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,000
I said, Billy, I said, come to Fenway Park with me tomorrow.

765
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,000
I got to take Earl Wilson's car back.

766
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,000
I said, we'll drive up and then you can drive me home.

767
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,000
So he follows me up to Fenway Park.

768
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,000
I get there about 10 o'clock in the morning.

769
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,000
I knock in the door to the attendant car, clubhouse attendant comes to the door and says, where are you?

770
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,000
I said, I got Earl Wilson's Thunderbird.

771
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,000
I said, I park in the park a lot outside.

772
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
He said, oh, so I give him the keys.

773
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000
Just wait a minute.

774
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
So he goes back.

775
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
He goes back and gives me a $100 bill.

776
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
He's a slag-full.

777
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
That's better than paying for a plane fare.

778
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,000
I mean, jeez.

779
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Yeah, yeah, I know it.

780
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000
I know it.

781
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
I know it.

782
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,000
I don't know.

783
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,000
That's how I got.

784
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Coach.

785
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,000
That's how I did it.

786
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Coach, how great was it to coach your three boys at the Gilbert School in Winston?

787
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Well, I can't get any better than that, I guess.

788
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,000
You know, to the, uh, let's see.

789
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,000
I'm trying to think of what we did.

790
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:28,000
We, uh, we went to the finals five times.

791
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,000
And we won three of them and they won the last one.

792
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:38,000
The last one we won was 1979 and they were all on the same team that year, 79.

793
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Was that against St. Paul?

794
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,000
Uh, yeah, I think it was.

795
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000
Darrell, are you there?

796
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Yeah, it's playing field.

797
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Oh, that's right.

798
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000
It was playing field.

799
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,000
And the picture was, picture of playing field was good.

800
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Yeah.

801
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,000
I think it was Dave McCullough and the, um, and the quarter finals who obviously Dave McCullough

802
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,000
was really good.

803
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,000
Waterbury's Dave McCullough.

804
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Who, who, who did he?

805
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,000
We played him infuse his party, hit a ball in the center field wall.

806
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,000
Yeah.

807
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Was it like a city school or Holy Cross?

808
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
He's there for Kennedy.

809
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,000
Kennedy.

810
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Hey, great.

811
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,000
Darrell.

812
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,000
I played him in a tournament.

813
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,000
The sixth, sixth guy from St. Joe's second game.

814
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
I mean, uh, some eyes was going.

815
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,000
One was from somebody and then we faked the last kid was even better than McCullough and

816
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,000
the sixth, sixth guy.

817
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,000
I don't know where that kid went, but I know after we scored the runoff of me, went behind

818
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000
the plate and caught.

819
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Get out of here.

820
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Darrell speaking of catching in that game.

821
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:43,000
I got a hit back in red to, to, to give us the, uh, we're down one nothing.

822
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,000
And, uh, he had like 13 strikeouts or something and I had oh two count.

823
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,000
Greg had an oh two count and, uh, he fisted one down the left field line.

824
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,000
The guy dough for it and got on second and I had an oh two count.

825
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Just playing throw me a curve ball and he did.

826
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,000
I had a base at the right field.

827
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,000
But then we, my dad was mad at me because I didn't go to second on the throw to home.

828
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Don't tell me you had a brain fart there.

829
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Oh, come on now.

830
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Oh, I, I, I still have dreams about me running so slowly to watch the seat of the guy's throw

831
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,000
her home and trying to get Greg and I watching him play.

832
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,000
I ran backwards to first base, I think watching throw.

833
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,000
Edward Duchains with the umpire made the best save call you ever saw and I just stood on

834
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,000
first base jumping up and down and my dad was looking at me like, what are you, what

835
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,000
is the answer?

836
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
You should be on second base.

837
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,000
And then he put in, they had, they had the, uh, one put in Mike Cain to run for me.

838
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,000
The guy got, they took him out and he put the gear on and threw a missile down the

839
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000
second through my 10 out by 30 feet.

840
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,000
That we wanted actually to go.

841
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Elmer just retired last, last week on the field, by the way.

842
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Um, and the home play umpire that day, um, you have coach to, uh, coach it was Joe

843
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,000
Blino.

844
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,000
We'll get back to that in a minute.

845
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Darrell, is it true?

846
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,000
Is it true that you went out there for the bottom of the seventh without your chest

847
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,000
protector and you didn't want to go back because you thought you're dead with it?

848
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Get out of the game.

849
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,000
No, that was a scrimmage.

850
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Jeff likes to love, love that story, Jeff DeBrosky, Jeff was like a basement.

851
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:17,000
Jeff actually got the hit that beat Dave McCullough at Kennedy.

852
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,000
We were playing, Parker was dark and McCullough was strong like 88 with a good slider.

853
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000
You saw him in the twimet, Mac.

854
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Yeah.

855
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,000
But Dumbo was, Jeff's got like about a four inch strike zone.

856
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000
So like that benefits him.

857
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,000
He walked, how many times did he walk that year, dude?

858
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,000
He walked.

859
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,000
He walked 26 times that year.

860
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Yeah.

861
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000
He all used to walk.

862
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,000
Walked.

863
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,000
And then McCullough was so, and McCullough would have been drafted, but I think they

864
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
stayed away from him because he was a little nutty.

865
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Nutty's good though.

866
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000
I mean, come on man.

867
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Oh, he's good.

868
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:56,000
But he was, uh, he, I didn't think, I think he went, he went to who's the time of, uh,

869
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:01,000
New York college back then, but they was, they could play, you know, I think you might've

870
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,280
been a little bit older, you know, but, um, Darrell, were you drafted or did you sign

871
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,280
with somebody?

872
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:14,000
I signed with, uh, the Braves on a, on a, my college coach.

873
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:22,000
I actually tried out for Barry Foote, and, uh, in South Carolina, and he just said,

874
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:28,000
we hate kid, you're 93, but you have no idea where it's going, but, uh, you can pitch

875
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,000
for somebody.

876
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000
So then I called some other guy.

877
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000
I was at, I was at Eastern.

878
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:39,000
I mean, at Coastal with Bobby Richardson, and I didn't, I didn't, obviously you didn't

879
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,000
pitch.

880
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,000
I played first on the Caudillou, but we had Kurt Marrowing as a catcher.

881
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Kurt played with the Giants.

882
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:51,000
So I just, I just, um, played for space.

883
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:57,000
You know, so not to, uh, they drafted first base, but I had a good arm and never, never,

884
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000
nobody ever knew it.

885
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,000
That's unbelievable.

886
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,320
Yeah, I just went, so I just threw for him and then I got another guy and, uh, Paul

887
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,120
Snyder side me, he saw me throwing, he signed me, he was a guy that, I don't know, he signed

888
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,120
him.

889
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,120
I played against him in a Texas league.

890
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,000
I played against Paul Snyder in a Texas league.

891
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,760
He played with, uh, if I could leave me, but I played with Fort Worth and he played,

892
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:27,760
I know I played with Santa Tony when he played with, uh, uh, what was the name of the town?

893
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,760
I forget.

894
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,760
Coach, how many of the tools did Darrell possess?

895
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,760
Cause I mean, obviously he had the arm.

896
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,760
I mean, we see him on these amateur circuits and like Darrell stands out.

897
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,760
So I was coming to practice one day, he was standing at home play with a couple other

898
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:49,760
guys and he took a baseball and he threw it, you know, Walker field with Dennis courts.

899
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,760
I do.

900
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,120
He threw a ball over that back fence behind that green building into the parking lot of

901
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,120
the oil company.

902
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,120
That's a ways away.

903
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:05,120
Why did you do that?

904
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,760
Was that your dad's first hit ball?

905
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,760
I mean, geez, come on Darrell.

906
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:15,040
We, me and Quill, I know the 383 is the front edge of the house out there and then there

907
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,360
was the tennis court and then there was a wall.

908
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,360
Another 120 feet.

909
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,360
I threw a ball.

910
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,360
So he threw a 500 feet.

911
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,360
I don't know how far, I don't know how far he threw it.

912
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,360
I was just coming down the car and he's standing at home playing all of a sudden he throws

913
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,360
the ball all the way up the park.

914
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,360
David Wells, Darrell?

915
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,360
Come on.

916
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,360
Yeah, I don't know why I did it.

917
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,360
I go off the plate, don't make it.

918
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,360
It was one of the plays I rarely, little bit in the front of it, but to see if I could

919
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:39,360
do it.

920
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,360
I just remember Greg and Dave's wife when it came back from college, both of us sitting

921
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,360
there trying to throw it into the tennis court.

922
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,800
You know, because I did that at that time.

923
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,880
But that's all being Greg did.

924
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,520
We just grew up throwing, we'd go out to the field and Dave, obviously, and we took a

925
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,280
ball and we just, we went out and we outfitted as far as we could every day.

926
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,640
Pretty much every day before we hit and then we hit.

927
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,960
Question for both of you guys.

928
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,560
If kids today, and you see these drills on Twitter or social media and you're like,

929
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,560
what are they doing?

930
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:20,560
If kids played more pepper and long toss, would the game be in a better place?

931
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,560
You got Bobby, you got a long toss three times a week.

932
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:32,560
You got to throw the ball somewhere between 225 and 250 feet in the air on a line.

933
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,560
That's how you got to develop your arm.

934
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:41,560
You can do it in a gym without using your, just spreading your feet and throwing it.

935
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Just a preliminary workout, but you got a long toss.

936
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,560
You got to throw.

937
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:54,560
Now, does the long toss outweigh the bands and the weighted balls and the warm up and

938
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,560
all this other crazy stuff I see at these games?

939
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,560
Yes, because what you're doing there with that stuff is you're trying to rush something.

940
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:13,560
You could have a very good coach, but in the time that he has to spend with you between

941
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:21,560
playing games and practice and preseason and maybe the tournament, that will nowhere near

942
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:28,560
get you ready to be a ball player because you just don't handle the ball enough.

943
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:37,560
You've got to throw the ball against, I used to throw the ball, there was about a 40 foot

944
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,560
distance between the two, the house I lived in, the house next door.

945
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,560
There was about 40 feet of grass and I used to throw the ball against this foundational

946
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,560
house and pick up ground balls.

947
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,560
Then I used to throw it up on a roof and wait for it to come down and then I used to turn

948
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,560
my back to the roof, throw it up there, turn my back and try to find the ball coming back

949
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,560
over my head.

950
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:04,560
I used to do all those things on my own and that's what happens.

951
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,560
You just handle the ball so much.

952
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:17,560
Nowadays, Mac, throwing a baseball against anything else, obviously it's a full body movement.

953
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:24,560
These goos teach is spin rate, this and that and they isolate a body part when it's not

954
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,560
that way.

955
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:31,560
They have all these different, we do this kind of throw and this kind of throw and it's

956
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,560
like you have to recreate the throwing.

957
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,560
The full body has to be thrown.

958
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,560
You throw the ball at your feet as much as you throw at your arm.

959
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,560
If you don't have good feet, you're not going to have a good arm.

960
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,560
Muscles are starting to get...

961
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,560
I'm going to do it with a detriment of three and the rest of my body.

962
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,560
They don't.

963
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,560
They don't.

964
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,560
Some people...

965
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Well, you wonder why there's all these injuries then.

966
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Yeah, you don't throw enough.

967
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,560
You're going to be sticked in by your ability in your body and your strength, your body

968
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,560
loses the flexibility and range of motion.

969
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:14,160
Then what they're trying to do is go past what their body can handle by doing the bands

970
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,560
or the weighted balls and the snap.

971
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,560
Then snap goes to UCL.

972
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Yeah, because you actually locked those joints up with a band or something.

973
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,560
It's got to be loose.

974
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,560
Your arm's fingers...

975
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,560
Your arm gets progressively faster.

976
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:36,560
It goes from your shoulder right down as you get progressively faster.

977
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,560
So when you finally get to your fingers, that's when your hands move.

978
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,560
I mean, you say, well, I throw...

979
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,560
Ron Goodry was 5'11", 165 pounds.

980
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,560
And he threw the ball pretty good, right?

981
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,560
In the mid-90s or whatever.

982
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,560
You know how fast his arm went?

983
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,560
A couple hundred miles an hour?

984
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,560
A hundred and sixteen miles an hour.

985
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,560
Get out of here.

986
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,560
A hundred and sixteen miles an hour.

987
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:09,560
Matt, any athletic movement, you take any one tennis, ping pong, you take a...

988
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,560
Throwing a baseball is the fastest movement a pre-embody can make.

989
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,560
Throwing a baseball in a baseball...

990
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,560
Over the swing, the arm moves faster than any other...

991
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,560
You know, tennis serve or whatever.

992
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,560
Baseball pitches, arm moves faster than...

993
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,560
Because the ball's only five...

994
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,560
Ball's only eight ounces.

995
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,560
Yeah, because you see it's a systemic thing.

996
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,560
You can't isolate a body part and think,

997
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,560
I'm gonna throw harder by lifting my bicep or lifting the lift.

998
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:44,560
It's the whole body and if you train...

999
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Well, you know, obviously weight balls work to a degree,

1000
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,560
but then at what?

1001
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,560
Everything else?

1002
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:52,560
You can't ball, you can't muscle.

1003
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,560
Your whole body.

1004
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,560
You just can't muscle.

1005
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,560
Your joints won't allow this.

1006
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,560
The pitchers that grew up with the Manics, they throw forever.

1007
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,560
These guys started, you know, when my dad played,

1008
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,560
the guy went out every four days and threw...

1009
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,560
Well, Jay...

1010
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,560
Well, last time we talked to your dad, Jay,

1011
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,560
remember, like, you were talking about the guy in high school

1012
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,560
who threw how many pitches at that?

1013
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,560
Tom Haggerty, would he throw two...

1014
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,560
Two one and thirty-four.

1015
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,560
Two thirty-four, yeah.

1016
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,560
In high school.

1017
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,560
Yeah, against Thomas in high school in 1984.

1018
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,560
That'd be reported at DCF these days.

1019
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,560
Hey, coach, and Darrell.

1020
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,560
Darrell, were you on staff with your dad at Hartford?

1021
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,560
I'd still be in prison.

1022
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,560
We didn't have pitch, can we?

1023
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,560
We didn't do pitch.

1024
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,560
We didn't have pitch at Hartford.

1025
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,560
No, that's...

1026
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,560
No, there was no pitch constant.

1027
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,560
No.

1028
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,560
Well, we knew we kept the...

1029
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,560
We kept it to chart, so we knew how many threw.

1030
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,560
Yeah.

1031
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,560
But we didn't know the end of the game.

1032
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Darrell, you were on staff at Hartford, correct?

1033
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,560
Yeah, you were on 34.

1034
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,560
Darrell?

1035
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,560
Yeah, no, like, we barely throw guys back-to-back days

1036
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,560
in the little series.

1037
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,560
Oh, Porky?

1038
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:57,560
You know.

1039
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,560
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, Porky.

1040
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,560
Yeah, they had a good picture.

1041
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,560
They'd run them out there, you know, they...

1042
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,560
Yeah, they'd run them out there.

1043
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,560
And you get into the playoffs and stuff like that.

1044
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,560
Well, Scott Lurac did that for us.

1045
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,560
We're but Maine, and Scott pitches Lurac into...

1046
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,560
This is for Hartford, right?

1047
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,560
Yeah, he went to Hartford.

1048
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,560
He's a Cheshire kid.

1049
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,560
Yeah.

1050
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,560
He's got the brother of Rocky.

1051
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,560
He was doing...

1052
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,560
Went to Hartford Legion two years ago.

1053
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,560
He's health coach.

1054
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,560
So, anyways, he...

1055
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,560
We were up at Maine.

1056
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,560
It snowed during the game.

1057
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,560
It was freezing rain for part of it.

1058
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,560
Scott goes nine innings, strikes out 12 guys,

1059
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,560
goes to complete nine, and we're in the next game,

1060
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:37,560
and we win the game.

1061
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,560
We go to our big finals,

1062
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,560
and we got a 10-0 in the third inning.

1063
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,560
We're killing them, and it's over.

1064
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,560
And they don't even care anymore.

1065
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,560
And Scott's got ice on his arm and his elbow

1066
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:51,560
and he's in the dugout.

1067
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,560
And we can't get it out.

1068
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,560
Nobody...

1069
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:57,560
We got four...

1070
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,560
No, no, no, Scott pitched the whole game.

1071
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,560
We have a whole entire pitching staff.

1072
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,560
So Woody was a pitcher.

1073
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,560
Brian Woods.

1074
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,560
From New Milford.

1075
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:06,560
Right?

1076
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,560
Yeah, Woody had one of those Woody days,

1077
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,560
and he just wasn't feeling it.

1078
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,560
And he...

1079
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,560
We don't...

1080
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:15,560
We're up 10-0.

1081
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,560
He goes three innings.

1082
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,560
Good, good, good.

1083
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,560
We get with this little change-up and stuff,

1084
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:19,560
and then all of a sudden, four,

1085
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,560
he starts walking guys,

1086
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,560
and there's 10-2, it's 10-3.

1087
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,560
We take him out, and nobody can throw a strike.

1088
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,560
Scott...

1089
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Well, Scott LaRock.

1090
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,560
I'm coaching circus.

1091
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,560
We're hitting, and it's eight hitting,

1092
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,560
and now it's eight to 10.

1093
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,560
And we don't get ahead either.

1094
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,560
And Scott, I see, throws off his ice on the shoulder

1095
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,560
and the elbow, runs down the bullpen,

1096
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,560
and starts throwing.

1097
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,560
Comes in the ninth inning, and strikes out two.

1098
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,560
Get out of here.

1099
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,560
He gets a grab on, strikes out the next two guys,

1100
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,560
and we win.

1101
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,560
Hey, that's awesome.

1102
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,560
When you guys are at Hartford,

1103
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,560
just speak real quickly to the Crunch Punch guys.

1104
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,560
Obviously angered by Bagwell,

1105
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,560
but also hit on Brian Crowley,

1106
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:03,560
who's got a son right now,

1107
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,560
killing it for Sullington, rank number 1-L,

1108
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,560
and then also Waterbury's own Joe Bolino.

1109
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,560
Yeah, well, it was Pad Hedge.

1110
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,560
Pad Hedge, Chris Peterson from Manchester.

1111
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:18,560
Oh, yeah.

1112
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,560
Pad Hedge was from Clinton.

1113
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,560
Joe Bolino was from Waterbury.

1114
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,560
Who was the other guy?

1115
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:26,560
Brian Crowley.

1116
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,560
Brian Crowley was from...

1117
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:29,560
Jeff Bagwell.

1118
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,560
Jeff Bagwell was from Adam.

1119
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:33,560
And...

1120
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,560
He had a good lead-up to this guy, Brian Bushwell.

1121
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,560
Yeah, he was a good lead-up.

1122
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,560
Todd Reynolds.

1123
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,560
Kid from New Jersey.

1124
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,560
Oh, yeah, Reynolds.

1125
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:40,560
Not Reynolds, he was from Ogo.

1126
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,560
Good player.

1127
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,560
He was from O-High School.

1128
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:43,560
Good player.

1129
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,560
Todd was a good player.

1130
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,560
Yeah.

1131
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,560
Died in a car crash, coming back from the Twyle League Banquet.

1132
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:48,560
Yeah.

1133
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,560
That's right.

1134
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,560
Terrible.

1135
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:51,560
Hey, coach.

1136
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,560
Yeah.

1137
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,560
Last time we spoke, two things.

1138
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,560
I haven't got on my mind, and I don't remember them exactly.

1139
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,880
One was why the second baseman should be the most tired kid on the field in high school

1140
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,560
ball or whatever.

1141
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,560
Well...

1142
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:13,560
The only thing I remember is backing up first on a slow roller to third or whatever.

1143
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,560
He backs up first base on all throws from the left side of the infield.

1144
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,560
Shortstop, third baseman.

1145
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,560
With the bases empty, obviously.

1146
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:22,560
Right.

1147
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:28,560
He backs up first base on all throws from home plate area and the baselines from the

1148
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,560
pitcher to catcher.

1149
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,560
See, over here the first base.

1150
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:34,560
Yeah.

1151
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,560
But mostly the first base will cover those because he's not going in.

1152
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:43,560
So that's the thing with him.

1153
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:49,560
All right, then the other one was the area of maximum vulnerability.

1154
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,560
The area of maximum vulnerability.

1155
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:53,560
Okay.

1156
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:54,560
And what is that?

1157
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:59,560
The area of maximum vulnerability is from the shortstop's left shoulder to the right

1158
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,560
field follow area.

1159
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:06,560
Because except for perhaps your first baseman, he could be right here, too.

1160
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,560
But all your infielders are right here, right?

1161
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:11,560
Yep.

1162
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,560
So that means when they go to the glove side, they got to take extra steps to get the throw

1163
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:17,560
off.

1164
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:25,560
That means if you hit the ball, let's say you hit the ball through the, that means that

1165
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:32,560
the shortstop covering the second base area, the middle of the infield, is a much tougher

1166
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,560
play than them going in all.

1167
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,560
He's already on his throw inside, he backends the ball to the deep part of his glove.

1168
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,560
Got to stick.

1169
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:45,560
He goes to his left side and he's got to swing across the throw and he's got to take extra

1170
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,560
steps.

1171
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,560
And if he doesn't throw the ball, if he throws the ball with his arm down, the ball's going

1172
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,560
to sail or it's going to go in the dirt.

1173
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,560
Secondly, the hardest play to complete a double play is from the right side of the infield.

1174
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:03,560
Second base on the shortstop, first base on the second and shortstop on the back.

1175
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:14,560
Thirdly, any ball that goes through the hole, right, in the right field, on a base hit, then

1176
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:20,560
the runner's on, the right fielder's got to throw the ball and as soon as the runner

1177
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:26,560
gets into the first base hole, on a base hit through that hole, then the right fielder

1178
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,560
started to throw the ball and catch him up.

1179
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,560
He can't cut him off or throw it.

1180
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,560
That's why it's the area of maximum of all ability.

1181
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:42,560
The hardest, like the one, one six, or the three, six, three is a hard double play to

1182
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:43,560
make.

1183
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,560
Four, six, three is hard though if he has to go to his close side.

1184
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,560
And once the ball goes through the hole, then the right field's got to throw, catching up

1185
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,560
the runners.

1186
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:53,560
He's got a batter runner.

1187
01:04:53,560 --> 01:05:01,560
He can cut off the second base, but still, but still, you're always catching up runners.

1188
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:07,560
The best set to right, from the right field, the right center field, the foul line area,

1189
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,560
or dead right field.

1190
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:15,560
You've got a strong arm, you've got to get to the ball, and your throw is going to catch

1191
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,560
up runners.

1192
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,560
See what I mean?

1193
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,560
So, while people think that the shortstop going to his backhand side is a tough play,

1194
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,560
number one, he's the shortstop.

1195
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,560
He should be able to make it.

1196
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,560
And then you're talking about one, like, rocker step, step, and you're ready to throw it

1197
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,560
off that back leg.

1198
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,560
That shouldn't be a hard play.

1199
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,560
Right, right.

1200
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,560
See, a lot of people would look at it the other way.

1201
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,560
I kind of like that.

1202
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:44,560
One of you guys, one of you guys better grab a bat because the socks are getting no hit

1203
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:45,560
in the seventh inning.

1204
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,560
Are they?

1205
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,560
Oh, they got one.

1206
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:56,560
Oh, Neil or whatever.

1207
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,560
Repsnider.

1208
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,560
Yep.

1209
01:05:58,560 --> 01:05:59,560
Former Yankee coach.

1210
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:00,560
Hey, all right.

1211
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:01,560
Guys.

1212
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,560
We're going to wrap it up.

1213
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:09,560
We want to play a little game with angry Jason Harlow over here.

1214
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,560
Just a little baseball-like game we like to play.

1215
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,560
Who would you rather?

1216
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,560
He's going to give you some guys, and you just say who's the better player or who would

1217
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:19,560
you take?

1218
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,560
You guys ready?

1219
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,560
Skinny, you there?

1220
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,560
Right.

1221
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,560
I'm going to say the opposite of him.

1222
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:29,560
All right.

1223
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,560
First one.

1224
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,560
I'll let him answer first.

1225
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,560
That's a good idea, coach.

1226
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,560
Darrell, we're going with you first.

1227
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:38,560
Yachty here, Molina.

1228
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:39,560
Buster Posey.

1229
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,560
Who are you taking?

1230
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,560
Who would you rather?

1231
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,560
Molina.

1232
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:43,560
Speak up, Darrell.

1233
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,560
Can't hear you.

1234
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:45,560
Yeah.

1235
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,560
Molina, because he works with the pitchers.

1236
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,560
Love him.

1237
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:49,560
He's just a great catcher.

1238
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,560
I like Posey as a catcher, but I'll sacrifice a little.

1239
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,560
And he's a good clutch hitter.

1240
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,560
And I'll sacrifice a little hitting for a great catcher like that.

1241
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:05,560
Well, when you start a team, the first guy you got, let's say you started a team for

1242
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,560
scratch, the first guy you got to find is a catcher.

1243
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,560
Second guy you got to find is a short catcher.

1244
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,560
But the catcher is the guy.

1245
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:19,560
Now, Molina is a great, but I'm saying Posey, simply because he can add to the best.

1246
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,560
I would say Posey, too.

1247
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,560
You can hit a catcher in the middle of the lineup.

1248
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:24,560
Yeah.

1249
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,560
I would say him.

1250
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,560
I voted, Skinny.

1251
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,560
Molina was very good.

1252
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Okay, here we go.

1253
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:32,560
Next one.

1254
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,560
Bryce Harper, Freddie Freeman.

1255
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:42,560
Skinny, you're up first on all of them.

1256
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:52,560
I like to, I like, you know, I, you know, they're supposed to be hard, Darrell.

1257
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:59,560
But he also, he also, I, Freeman seems to be a better teammate and just a quiet guy

1258
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:04,560
that just puts up numbers every year and just, and I, you know, as far as swing and miss,

1259
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,560
I like to swing better.

1260
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:11,560
I just like Freeman's, um, Harper, Harper, it's a ball harder when he hits it, but, um,

1261
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:16,560
all in all, yeah, I think Freeman's just a professional hitter.

1262
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,560
So you're going to Freeman?

1263
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,560
Yeah.

1264
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:19,560
Coach?

1265
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,560
Yeah, I go, I would go to him, too.

1266
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,560
He's, he's just a better contact hitter.

1267
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,560
He's an experienced first baseman.

1268
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,560
That's his normal position.

1269
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,560
Is he going to play, is he a Hall of Famer right now?

1270
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,560
Oh yeah.

1271
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:33,560
No question.

1272
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:34,560
Pretty close.

1273
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,560
Okay.

1274
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:36,560
Pretty close.

1275
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:37,560
All right, Ray.

1276
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:38,560
Next one.

1277
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,560
Nolan Aronato or Manny Machado?

1278
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,560
Darrell?

1279
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:48,560
I, I, I saw Machado coming up and he has a world of talent.

1280
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,560
I just, I don't know, I don't know how, I think, I rather play with Aronato.

1281
01:08:54,560 --> 01:09:00,560
I think he's a better player as far as playing both sides, but Machado, I think Machado has

1282
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,560
more skill.

1283
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:09,560
You know, his, his, his arm, his, everything is just, he, his power, all fields, you know,

1284
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:14,560
but I, I, personally, I just, I just, Aronato just seems like a much more of a gamer to me

1285
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:15,560
than Machado does.

1286
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,560
Coach?

1287
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:17,560
I don't need the added Machado.

1288
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,560
Yeah, I, I think Darrell's right there.

1289
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:27,560
I think, I think Machado's got more, more talent, but Aronato is a better ball player.

1290
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:28,560
Okay.

1291
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,560
He can do more things.

1292
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,560
He can do more consistent things.

1293
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,560
I would take Aronato just because of that.

1294
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,560
All right, well let's go to the young short stops right now.

1295
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,560
Gunner Henderson or Bobby Whit Jr.

1296
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,560
Oh, good one.

1297
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,560
Good one.

1298
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:54,560
I like a left-handed hitter, but I like, you know, Whit can, Whit can run.

1299
01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:01,560
Oh, jeez, you want to watch Henderson?

1300
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,560
I'm like, I really like Whit's bats.

1301
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,560
I don't think he has a great swing.

1302
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,560
He's good at swing and he's fast.

1303
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:15,560
He's just a quick, quick athlete with super nice make up, great kid, but more I see Henderson

1304
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,560
shortstop and, and, and showing the power.

1305
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,560
I mean, he's about to be on the top of the big leg.

1306
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,560
Like it's hard to turn away.

1307
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,560
A left-handed hitting shortstop with power like that.

1308
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,560
It can play short, you know.

1309
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:30,560
Yeah, that's a tough one to look past.

1310
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:37,560
You know, Whit is such a quick athlete, but that's a terrific question.

1311
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:46,560
But I got to, I got to go, I got to go with the left-handed hitter because of the area of both of maximum vulnerability.

1312
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:47,560
I love it.

1313
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:48,560
We're going to forget that.

1314
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:57,560
The right, the right field area in Baltimore is good for a lefty hitter.

1315
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,560
And the corner.

1316
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:05,560
But yeah, but the other guys, the other guys just true.

1317
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,560
But that's a bigger ballpark in Kansas City.

1318
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:20,560
And as far as in the field, in the field, I'd say this, it's a hair.

1319
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:26,560
It just, I would have to just say I would take the left-handed bat over the right-handed bat.

1320
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:27,560
Me too.

1321
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,560
There we go.

1322
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,560
Henderson or this.

1323
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,560
I'd say it was a standoff.

1324
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:32,560
All right.

1325
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:33,560
All right.

1326
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,560
So let's go a little old school here.

1327
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,560
This one, Taylor made for you guys since you're Red Sox fans.

1328
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,560
So Dave Parker or Dwight Evans?

1329
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,560
Parker's got to get in the hall of fame, man.

1330
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:45,560
I'm getting pissed about that.

1331
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:46,560
Wait a minute.

1332
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:47,560
Dave Parker.

1333
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:48,560
Dwight Evans.

1334
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,560
I'm not even thinking twice about him.

1335
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,560
The cobra.

1336
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,560
And Parker had a better arm.

1337
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,560
Oh, I don't know about that, Darrell.

1338
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,560
I don't know about that, Darrell.

1339
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:58,560
I don't know about that, Darrell.

1340
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,560
I think Evans' arm is overrated because he's a Red Sox, Dave Parker had a missile.

1341
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,560
Oh, come on, man.

1342
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,560
Coach?

1343
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:07,560
Coach.

1344
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:18,560
I'll say Dwight Evans told me for the reason that he was a fabulous right fielder and

1345
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:19,560
he played on a winner.

1346
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:20,560
All right.

1347
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,560
He went to the World Series.

1348
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,560
This one, hold up, Jay.

1349
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,560
Should Parker be in the hall of fame?

1350
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,560
No.

1351
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,560
I don't think so.

1352
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:29,560
I don't think he's the winner of all the fame, guys.

1353
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,560
Well, Harold Banson, the hall of fame, man.

1354
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,560
This bothers me because Parker was scary.

1355
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,560
Parker had more, Parker had a lot of talent.

1356
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,560
A lot of talent.

1357
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:43,560
He probably got a big, big, thin shape his way he should do, but he was a great left-handed

1358
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,560
hitter with power and he could throw and he just, you know.

1359
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:48,560
He wanted to be piqued.

1360
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:49,560
He wanted to be piqued.

1361
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,560
He wanted to be piqued.

1362
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:51,560
He wanted to be piqued.

1363
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:52,560
He wanted to be piqued.

1364
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:53,560
He wanted to be piqued.

1365
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,560
He wanted to be piqued.

1366
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:55,560
He wanted to be piqued.

1367
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,560
Like Brad and Crown.

1368
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:58,560
Yeah.

1369
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,560
Angry Jay.

1370
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,560
Go.

1371
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,560
He knew it, too.

1372
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:03,560
All right, all right.

1373
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:04,560
Here we go.

1374
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:05,560
This one has always been tough for me.

1375
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,560
George Brett or Mike Schmidt?

1376
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,560
Oh, George Brett.

1377
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,560
Wow, okay.

1378
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,560
It's candy?

1379
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:22,560
Only, only because Mike's shirt was, I like Mike Schmidt real power hitter in a great third

1380
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,560
basement with George Brett.

1381
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,080
the bulldog

1382
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,600
yeah he was a he was a killer

1383
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,880
dot he was it uh... you just look at the number how is the eyes looked at least

1384
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,280
a roll around the never blinked

1385
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,400
he looked at the story about their body

1386
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,440
no one's stomach nobody i don't think anybody's a better competitor in

1387
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:42,440
june britain

1388
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:46,000
he looked pretty happy with all the mountain that pintar home run

1389
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,960
yeah yeah that's right kill that guy that was him right

1390
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,720
that was him right there

1391
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:57,720
yeah you know you know cycle pathize

1392
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,600
let's go on

1393
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,960
uh... yeah but i i i i gotta take george brad for what he gives the team

1394
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:08,040
there's no there's no wrong answers here coach let's go all kenny lost in

1395
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,680
johnny david

1396
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,880
kenny lofty or johnny david

1397
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:15,400
that's a good

1398
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:22,400
johnny david plus steroids they don't count the you could use them

1399
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:27,920
they've been playing with the royals in the age of skinny as a rail and he took steroids

1400
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:33,320
look at the orteez and pines and chipper joe hang on a second so that

1401
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,840
means you're taking kenny lofty and daryl

1402
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,040
daryl we need it on record we take him

1403
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,200
for steroids yeah

1404
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:46,320
all day i love coachy i don't know

1405
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,200
that's a good approach for

1406
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,000
uh... either one could throw

1407
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,440
but can you walk the plate who's for arizona

1408
01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:58,240
after a while later he picked up a small and you can't walk around

1409
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,600
he didn't like baseball he said because he said that i could do i do bad

1410
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:03,600
and

1411
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,520
i'd worked out good if i do good at a line drive i make it out i do that

1412
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,120
he goes back by no you make a shot right this shot baseball doesn't work that way

1413
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,320
you know i get a terrible about it get a hit

1414
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,540
the number you get a hit a hit of a rocket to the outfield amount

1415
01:15:17,540 --> 01:15:20,720
i don't like lawton in a playoff or world series game i think you made the

1416
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:21,960
third out

1417
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,480
would have gone for a hit attempt

1418
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:26,320
with guys on base i don't guys remember that that was

1419
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,960
yeah i remember that you're right that was such a cowardly play i mean

1420
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,600
yeah that was probably

1421
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,280
alright guys i think it

1422
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:35,600
alright we have three more

1423
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:36,920
more

1424
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,360
dh

1425
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,240
first base but because we got a guy who can't feel david or tease

1426
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:43,880
or frank thomas

1427
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:44,840
the hurt

1428
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,840
now obviously or tease

1429
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:52,840
more than a man less than a guy

1430
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:56,600
the clutch hit the clutch hit tga

1431
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:57,960
against mariano

1432
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,520
he would have tied up to hurt the train is that what they call it

1433
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,920
you guys both big one or tease huh

1434
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,560
two time back to back MVP guy

1435
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,320
two managers for you guys

1436
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,080
who we go billy

1437
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,200
time to sort of or a waiver

1438
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,400
what do you guys get me

1439
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,800
i don't think you're one or good

1440
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,760
we got a pic one side is not a great god on the wrong

1441
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,000
i'll take i'll take weaver

1442
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,400
uh... i'll take you know what

1443
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:30,000
i i i i i want to listen to jim pomer on the radio who's very good

1444
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,960
yeah i think he's very good and he's good up in the

1445
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,840
you know where's a heck of a further further along to

1446
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,200
i last one for you guys

1447
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,440
billy martin

1448
01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:45,880
or twenty the rusa

1449
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,400
uh...

1450
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,680
uh...

1451
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:52,640
lawyer

1452
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,480
mack i would let him do anything

1453
01:16:54,480 --> 01:17:00,040
he's gonna have to represent himself he fell asleep with a stoplight

1454
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,080
win the lefty

1455
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,120
that's their way to go to the book any of

1456
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:09,080
the rogers to make the way to take over top one of the part of the time

1457
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,720
it's not going to take a lot of their way

1458
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:12,880
and i think of a

1459
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,560
and you have to put a point on the ball the same exact spot they put the ball

1460
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:17,320
may

1461
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,080
prove that he was doing it and the rest of us

1462
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,840
uh... we're going to we're going to

1463
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,800
we're going to handle this internally

1464
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,720
it like what is that

1465
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,440
you know they get away with it

1466
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:28,400
we're doing the game

1467
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,920
how can you not

1468
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,960
say anything about that because he's using a forcibly ball

1469
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,840
and and they showed the wish the boy would say anything

1470
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,360
was that it was there were two new as guys want their way to use about

1471
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:41,200
one of the

1472
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,640
saying about the

1473
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,640
so skinny you take it you take a bit more than he punched a marshmallow

1474
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,640
salesman if you remember that

1475
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,800
it's really not really but it's really about the best buddies with the bar

1476
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,920
richardson

1477
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,040
action that's what he's

1478
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,440
by richardson was was was trying to convert

1479
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:00,800
billy martin or good luck with that

1480
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:01,680
so anyways they

1481
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,320
what christianna or something

1482
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:04,560
coastal carolina

1483
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,520
are you serious

1484
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,160
all my capilly

1485
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:15,160
billy was in listening to that

1486
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,760
billy martin

1487
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,000
and it was the focus that connect it

1488
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,600
his head hit the dashboard

1489
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,960
the dashboard was taken a look at them

1490
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,960
it's a hard head we had a point

1491
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,040
that's why billy by richard was there because we had a bunch of fights in the

1492
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:32,560
head

1493
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,520
post they fired him because we had these fights

1494
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,600
and i never went out for a fight

1495
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:37,320
so

1496
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,240
uh...

1497
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,040
all the guys we got billy martin there they go look

1498
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,800
the first question they have to go

1499
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,200
all mister martin

1500
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,800
what do you think about a player that would run out in a fight no way

1501
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,640
but

1502
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:57,640
the

1503
01:18:58,760 --> 01:18:59,920
they

1504
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:01,080
guys

1505
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,440
you look to play

1506
01:19:02,440 --> 01:19:05,640
we have a fight every we have every fight every other game at a fight with the

1507
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:06,920
other team

1508
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,520
it was hilarious that's what it's like to see

1509
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:10,960
so it was not a

1510
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,360
hey uh... darryl i think you're more of a purist than your dad and that's hard to

1511
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:15,760
believe uh...

1512
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,680
you're even against their rights i mean they let them take them

1513
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:19,360
coach

1514
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,360
we're gonna wrap this up uh... little fill in the blank

1515
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,160
they encourage them to take them

1516
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,280
i know they did

1517
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,400
yeah we needed to get the fans back

1518
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,760
they told them to take steroids they wanted the guys that said they knew

1519
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,160
that you don't feel like you're on the phone call they got him saying he's still

1520
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,040
on the juice when they took gagney

1521
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,800
tom he was sort of scout dodger scout told greg

1522
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,080
tom was sort of told the guys

1523
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,920
hey peop just taking the steroids you guys need to take steroids you need to

1524
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,920
buck up for the team because some guys worry about the health issues

1525
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,920
and red sacks are taking them

1526
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,400
oh yeah they made a record i think you kept with the manager they told them

1527
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,600
hey if you're gonna take them hey you gotta do them we help you

1528
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,400
here's the guy that do it this way you do it because you know nobody could get

1529
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,280
a good time for place for dying

1530
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,640
so some guys were a choice man they want to get better i mean look at the nfl

1531
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:08,760
guys too

1532
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,760
right coach

1533
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,640
yeah they didn't want to see

1534
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,120
coach you know where i'm going with this

1535
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,400
ruthlessly

1536
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,600
pricking my gonfalon bubble

1537
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:19,920
turning

1538
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,640
turning each giant into a double words that are way to do with nothing but trouble

1539
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,440
tinker's the ever's the chance there we go

1540
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:29,440
hey uh guys

1541
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:30,440
this was fun

1542
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:31,640
we gotta do it again

1543
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,080
watch a socks game go yanks

1544
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,840
um thank you guys so much for joining us

1545
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,840
darrell give the guys steroids we want home runs

1546
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,880
now i'm kidding

1547
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,360
hey thanks guys thanks fellas

1548
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,800
well see you guys

1549
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,200
thank you coach

1550
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,200
well guys um

1551
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:56,280
not many people know more baseball than than that family i could do that forever

1552
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,800
um

1553
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,280
that was that was terrific

1554
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,000
alright let's let's get back to uh...

1555
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,880
what we normally talk about that was

1556
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,960
that was some good stuff

1557
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,040
nba wrapping up

1558
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,480
celtz versus weber now like

1559
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,840
is there any doubt in anybody's mind what's gonna happen right now

1560
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,800
now since dowels up by twenty right now too

1561
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,400
so it's over it's gonna be

1562
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:25,080
i mean

1563
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,600
kairi back in boston

1564
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,400
that's gonna be the the side story which will be fun um i don't think it's much

1565
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,000
of a story it didn't work out there he moved on like

1566
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,080
he said dude come on let's be like serious like

1567
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,840
people are like rooting for him now like he's a good guy who's rooting for him

1568
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:40,920
i love kairi

1569
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,280
everybody like the announcement

1570
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,280
thank you for thank you like the the the national

1571
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,920
like media

1572
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,080
wonderful guy now

1573
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:54,040
hey as stan van gondy says are they the best offensive backcourt in nba history

1574
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,160
well is that a good court

1575
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,600
not a good court

1576
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:57,960
not a good court

1577
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,200
that's that's what we ran on like

1578
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,440
the guys has a good series and all of a sudden these guys are

1579
01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:03,440
you think they're better than brunson and debon shunz

1580
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:04,320
they're

1581
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,480
this is stupid

1582
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:07,880
is luke considered a shooting guard i don't get that

1583
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:08,480
is he

1584
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:09,640
he's a point guard

1585
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,160
he's the point guy who wants kairi

1586
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,600
he's got the ball in 95% of the time

1587
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,360
well is any more of a point forward

1588
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,480
they're both point guards

1589
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:18,680
where his physique i am rebutting he's got the ball constantly

1590
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:20,520
and if he doesn't

1591
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:25,000
i'm impressed by his strength because like i'm down on him and just on conditioning

1592
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,280
and a lot of kind of stuff but

1593
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,320
maybe it doesn't matter his strength when he wants to get it off he's getting

1594
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,720
it off and it hits the nothing but the bottom of the net

1595
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,400
question for you j

1596
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,520
who guards him

1597
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:39,160
if kairi didn't have all that baggage and that's a big if obviously he averages

1598
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,640
what 45 games per year in his career

1599
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,960
he's one of the best best point guards best guards of all time

1600
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:46,520
one of most

1601
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,840
he's so talented and skilled it's unbelievable

1602
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,000
yeah one of the most skilled guys ever i'll give him that

1603
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,600
but i'm never looking back at the fact that he can't overlook all the other garbage

1604
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:59,080
yeah quitting on the team like he yeah well these guys can do that

1605
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:00,040
yeah i was in six

1606
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,720
hey you're taking a madhouse wow

1607
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:04,920
hater

1608
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:05,400
that's fun

1609
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:08,200
cool math

1610
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:12,520
you don't think poor zingas coming back is going to be a bit of a of a like monkey wrench

1611
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,920
not at all it's going to be huge after one game maybe

1612
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:15,320
not all

1613
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,600
he spaces a four so well for them

1614
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,080
they need it that's going to be a fun series though like i kind of like that series and

1615
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,720
and how fun is it like jaylon had a couple good games now like now he's their best player in the

1616
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:33,160
team like we just you have a good series so you're better than tatum why why does it matter

1617
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,880
who's better they got a so that's who guys that play well

1618
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:41,480
i got game seven down by two i think it depends on the match up in the night and how they're

1619
01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:44,840
feeling honestly how they're shooting the ball that night i'll defer to the

1620
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:50,600
south the guys on that one i'm gonna take them i'm gonna take them letting him make the decision

1621
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,280
down by two i go to take them every time three i don't know i mean doesn't make any

1622
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:59,320
shots at that remember jaylon doesn't have a left yeah awesome

1623
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:05,240
is another guy who doesn't have a heart of mabs the first healthy playoff team this else will play

1624
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,800
i'm just saying here's another great yeah this is

1625
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:16,520
if the next one is the next for a healthy i mean we know what would have happened yeah what's that

1626
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:25,480
nixon five it wouldn't have mattered brunson broke his hand anyway in game seven they had no shot

1627
01:24:25,480 --> 01:24:34,120
okay so that was our base our basketball segment brought here by capital securities joe more yellow

1628
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:44,600
alive 76 well planned come on guys 76 and 20 right now all right so um onto baseball it can't be

1629
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:51,800
ignored uh it can't be ignored even us being skeptical with the yanks here like the bottom

1630
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:58,520
line is to get the second best record of baseball by one and it's i think it's due to really one thing

1631
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:05,400
and judgy had a part of making this happen but the one so to effect is real the one so

1632
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:10,760
to be ignored it's not letting it be ignored by the way oh no it can't be ignored remember

1633
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:17,320
angry jay how upset judge was at the end of last year yeah he definitely marched into somebody's

1634
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:21,960
office at the end of last year and said we need an everyday lineup like this crap's got to stop

1635
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,800
and ever since they went to that everyday lineup knock on wood guys aren't getting hurt

1636
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:33,160
today was their first major injury schmidt is on the shelf for a long long time

1637
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:41,240
but col will be back whatever but the everyday lineup and the spot they're hitting in the lineup

1638
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:45,560
you guys played a ton of baseball your whole life you know how important that is play every day

1639
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:50,920
playing the same spot in the lineup and i think it's paying dividends you have a role

1640
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:55,400
i said born right born the guys know that and i i said this only in the beginning of the year

1641
01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:01,640
the one of the best things i saw and you just mentioned like soto immediately just said when he

1642
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,560
got hit by a pitch in there like asking him if he was okay and he's like i'm good i'm playing i'm

1643
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:11,880
playing he said like four times and in previous the last six eight years i mean somebody gets hit

1644
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:16,600
by a pitcher they they fall down and yanky lander they don't play different for three days and

1645
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:22,920
so it was like i'm playing the toughness that he brought to this team even even in terms of taking

1646
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,240
pitches he's feisty with these umpires he doesn't yell at him and stuff like that but like if they

1647
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:34,760
call a ball a strike he's pissed yeah and i kind of like that and and and with that kind of attitude

1648
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:39,720
now they're celebrating success like we haven't seen them in a dugout like this in many many years

1649
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:45,240
that that outfield is having fun all three of those guys well judges personalities coming out

1650
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:50,520
soto and verdugo have completely changed the dynamic in the ascension of vulp to be honest

1651
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,200
i got it i got a minute to i want to talk about vulp you go ahead i like white chocolate in left

1652
01:26:54,200 --> 01:27:00,680
field i i do too he's good player man he's a good player he's a bad ball i hated him with the red

1653
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:05,400
socks but well they said he had teammate baggage he spent nothing but an unbelievable team yeah he

1654
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,960
had to go to a he had to go to a good team i mean that's just what happens and when you talk about

1655
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:14,600
vulp they're getting better like last year to talk about his home runs already this but he's got six

1656
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:19,000
you know me maybe ends up with 15 but he's getting on base the ball's being hit the other way and

1657
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:25,240
soto by the way he's got a batting average too 28 something right 288 and soto is so more than

1658
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:30,760
willing to hit the ball the other way that maybe he even knows that his best power is the other way

1659
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,760
although the ones he pulls are majestic he loves hitting the ball the other way wake up crack we're

1660
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:40,040
talking yanking baseball over here we're one season with soto we're not gonna no we're paying for him

1661
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:44,840
bottom line i can't wait till the wheels fall off uh oh they'll definitely come off because

1662
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:50,840
stand stand see no but on these days we got the martian he's gonna get the sniffles the only way

1663
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:58,200
they fall off is that that guy actually has a problem and that ain't happening soto one of these

1664
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:03,000
times judge his needles gonna fall out when he's sliding the second and he's gonna get hurt his

1665
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:09,400
one was needles gonna slide on me on the second go he's gonna be out would it seem much bigger than

1666
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:15,160
he was when he was a rookie are you kidding me captain caveman come on six four 450 pounds hang out

1667
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:22,360
with Ortiz and they come on some guys who play centerfields i see bloody centerfields and athlete

1668
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:28,360
can't even play centerfield you never know about him reduced i don't know if he did i don't know that

1669
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:34,520
david you're saying judge it'll be on the air right now man you're throwing that out there on

1670
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:40,120
the air right now that judge is doing something not off that oh get out of here guys head guys heads

1671
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:45,320
his eyes are six bone balls he makes very bonds are small he looked that way it's in college at

1672
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:51,960
fresno he started really are you kidding me i know now if you want to you want to say stan is doing

1673
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:57,560
something let's test him and get rid of him i think stan's clean let's test him i think soto's

1674
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,720
clean we couldn't get we couldn't get that lucky you could fit two of berry bonds heads and one of

1675
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:09,160
the judges hats he fixed his teeth though in the off season i mean right got those cleaned up

1676
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:15,320
i'll tell you man he fixes his teeth he's good at those and that's all he does his teeth oh god

1677
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:21,160
hey angry j remember we had that bat about the martian yeah he's playing and he should be up in

1678
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:26,440
the majors so you're gonna pay me because it was a major league at bat and i understand but i

1679
01:29:26,440 --> 01:29:31,240
can't love the organization is holding them back that guy's ready to play that's part of

1680
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:38,520
your guys part of reason i made the bet your bet was about cold it was about the mingas i said he

1681
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:43,480
would be up by the end of may and today's the second or last day i mean he should be but he should

1682
01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:51,640
be a Yankee land he's tearing it up sox are 500 about cold uh i said cold probably by the all

1683
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:56,760
start break anyway at the time so cold coming back the Yankee fans i mean the only thing we

1684
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:02,200
can really complain about i still hate torres um but is the pitching like what's gonna happen when

1685
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:07,400
cold comes back who doesn't start and you'd have to think it was Cortes and conveniently we already

1686
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:15,400
got somebody on the shelf so what's his injury lat he's not he's not gonna pitch in the major leagues

1687
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:23,320
until the middle late august he didn't have a sliding mid on while warming up in um california

1688
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:31,560
you don't want to talk about hose a heal he's a stud louis louis yeah he's uh louis yeah he's

1689
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:38,680
hose's middle name howl i know hose's middle name look it up he actually played jay he baseball

1690
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:43,960
arm and he actually threw eight of these last night which is an Yankee land is like two complete

1691
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:50,200
games in a row he's been he's been terrific though it's not 234 pitches but yeah it's pretty it's a lot

1692
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:55,240
we've been waiting for a guy like that don father you have a lot to say tonight we're

1693
01:30:55,240 --> 01:31:00,520
shifting gears let's just admit it the Yankees are awesome can you name three socks socks are 500

1694
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:07,400
yes we have half the payroll the Yankees and more than half the way to the right where we should be

1695
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:12,520
small market i would check that payroll again getting no hit tonight check it got them right

1696
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:17,080
where we want it is a pretty muddy mode just right in the middle we're just hovering we're

1697
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:23,480
just hovering we're gonna make our move grab a pattern for a while dowels up 29 at half maybe

1698
01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:27,240
we'll get uh and that's that minnesota correct remember we'll get chris sail back he's helping out

1699
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:33,960
seems like figures whatever all right yeah he was washed up right another swinging a miss by the

1700
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:42,040
socks okay we got a trivia section coming up sponsored by the father and angry jay just kidding

1701
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:47,320
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1702
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:52,600
are really into in the summer i didn't know that don father astak don father hit it we talked about

1703
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:57,720
uh tatum and brown who's mr clutch because brown hit that huge game winning shot against the other

1704
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:05,560
pacers so who in nba history has the most game winning shots in the nba playoffs player or team

1705
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:11,400
or what do we know one player one player most game winning shots and it's not jordan i didn't say it

1706
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:22,600
wasn't jordan i mean everyone has a jordan and everyone would be wrong kobe no it is not kobe

1707
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:30,440
nba history or playoff history nba playoff just playoffs give us a little hint because i love

1708
01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:44,120
have a check no hondo it's a great guest though uh he is still active still active man no way no

1709
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:51,480
what would you just do the act of like a sheep think it was one of a goat sound but yeah i'm

1710
01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:55,320
calling bullshit on that right there i want to see the stats actually what does he get the game

1711
01:32:55,320 --> 01:33:00,280
winner if he hit like a minute and a half to go nine nine nine game winning shots the brown james

1712
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:06,280
got nine well jay the brown jay nine game winning shots in the playoffs for the goat or he had what

1713
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:12,920
eight yeah that was eight playoffs and seven in his career he lost one for the regular yeah i want to

1714
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:18,200
see that like i want to really buy it don father next okay i don't make that stuff up oh side note

1715
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:25,560
i'm seeing that anger and i were talking who is the all-time leader in batting average in midway

1716
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:33,640
baseball history uh we used to be tired it used to be the george apiche used to be ty kow who is it

1717
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:41,400
now as of yesterday i don't know josh gibson josh gibson 372 average i said it was a different sound

1718
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:45,560
coming off the bat though they all say that it was also a different league so i don't know it really

1719
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:50,680
counts but just throwing random stats out there you know had to it wasn't the major leagues no well

1720
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:57,400
why does it count now they incorporated the negro league stats all time we don't know all time we

1721
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:04,680
don't home runs yeah hold up as yesterday they integrated all the negro league stats yeah why is

1722
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:11,640
a different league yeah but we're gonna take the japan stats too honestly i saw a lot of how was

1723
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:18,760
eight sixty her shall walkers uh they're different like that's gonna count pretty soon too yeah yeah

1724
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:24,040
i mean everyone should be honored in whatever way they they deserve but like so different leagues

1725
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,240
yep you know what's funny is josh gibson could very well be the best baseball player or a point

1726
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:39,480
but they said his home runs about 800 that's the stack about 800 look it up at any reference

1727
01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:44,200
approximately yes approximately as a better word right and when did he play circuit circle what

1728
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:51,160
like fifties right 50s 60s no they legendary stories about like a far 800 or four so you

1729
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:56,840
can put that on somewhere around so if you get like 798 does the other guy still get it because

1730
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:04,040
you're we have an exact number but you're about 800 it could be 802 they got to change that that

1731
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:09,480
ain't right they oh they just did yesterday yesterday who did who did it made like baseball

1732
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:15,560
there's cooper style acknowledging this and baseball reference it's all over it it says

1733
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:21,240
800 home runs baseball reference i don't mind it's just a sad fact three get the major baseball so

1734
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:26,680
josh gibson's the new career batting house later with i think it was 372 to tycobs 367 373

1735
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:32,840
all right so we talked about nba playoffs points for game and clutch shots in the playoffs so

1736
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:39,720
seven of the 10 highest average points per game for nba playoff playoff history since we're talking

1737
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:45,640
playoffs are still active that number surprised me by the way highest points per game the nba playoffs

1738
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:52,600
seven of the 10 are still active other than jordan career or single season career okay other than

1739
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:59,000
jordan who are the other two hardened luka no no the other two other than jordan no longer active

1740
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:05,320
alan everson alan everson is number three there's one more that's number five that's not active

1741
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:14,120
coby not pshak oh neither one of my top 10 no kin top 12 actually because i went down 12

1742
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:24,200
you gotta get up he's older i'm saying he pre-80s pre-playoff expansion will well yeah

1743
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,400
wrong uh korean tone

1744
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:36,280
micah the logo jerry get out of here number five all time playoff points for game everybody

1745
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:41,960
else said yeah wuka is actually number two all time playoff average 31 points a game behind only

1746
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:49,640
jordan is where's brunson oh god i only worked on a 30 i think there was a minimum i think there was

1747
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,480
a minimum of like seven playoff ones in the career so i think you're seeing any more boss

1748
01:36:53,480 --> 01:36:59,560
musicians guys you're just lucky wait till next year oh do you that's a body of ten

1749
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:09,320
do you i'm at oh gee coming back i got two more quick ones so yankees uh 83 home runs for

1750
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:15,080
for team weeding your major leagues who's second who's last last gotta be the mess

1751
01:37:17,480 --> 01:37:22,120
i can tell you the Yankees have more than double i'll go last place to me marlins i'll go

1752
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:28,360
baltimore furrier team mr and baltimore second yeah good call angry marlins last

1753
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:35,560
white socks white socks yeah i'll go there 30 table good call team home runs Yankees have 83

1754
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:42,680
83 seems low too for what six almost 60 games well judge judge soda when fraud frauds and

1755
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:47,880
don't figures you're 17 15 13 i don't think the i don't think the balls are juiced anymore

1756
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:53,560
i don't think so huh no you guys here buddy you might have heard the stack because torres only has

1757
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:59,800
three does he have three he had one good year may 29th was the anniversary of uh

1758
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:05,640
uh of uh joan eekron might have heard this on the news joan eekron had one home run in his

1759
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,880
major league baseball career he had a lot of bads he pitched forever you know play some

1760
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:16,600
nationally games joan eekron i feel right joe joe yeah his one home run who do you hit it off of

1761
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:24,680
phil phil he's got it here was that was that a guess again 158 with one home run first career

1762
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:33,560
only home run he ever had may 29 76 that's pretty good you owe to one i'm gonna end on a

1763
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:38,600
i'm gonna end on a blind resume here so two nfl quarterbacks should i get super bowls yes or no

1764
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:42,760
because it might be easier to guess if you add super bowls and i can just give her stats just

1765
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:50,200
stats all right quarterback one tell me who more impressive all right 249 games quarterback two

1766
01:38:50,200 --> 01:39:00,120
231 games i'll just go over quarterback one first two 49 he had 165 touchdowns 81 interceptions

1767
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:08,440
64 000 yards i'm rounding till the nearest hundred for yards 418 touchdowns 249 games

1768
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:15,960
165 touchdowns i'm sorry that's wrong 249 i'm confused already you already said touchdowns

1769
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:22,520
what i went wins and losses wins and losses yeah let's go all right cracker right he's down

1770
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:30,120
i'm starting all okay games 249 wins the losses 165 and 81 that was his record all right 165

1771
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:40,760
uh 64 000 yards 418 passing touchdowns that's correct 418 okay quarterback two 231 for game so

1772
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:51,320
it's similar a few s record 148 75 winning percentage really close 59 000 yards close 475 passing

1773
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:57,720
touchdowns well you're giving me a very same any one of these guys it's paying many one of these

1774
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:02,200
guys you're giving me a very similar one of them is active one of them is not both in the last

1775
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:07,160
one they're both playing the last 10 years so the guy with the more yards had the more

1776
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:15,400
touchdowns took got the more yards no more yards of 64 000 higher 408 64 000 to 59 000 barb

1777
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,360
uh how about Matt Ryan i'm gonna give you one you can guess the other

1778
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:27,960
i'll give you the active one erin rogers erin rogers is active i'll give you a huge quarterback

1779
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:38,520
two frees 231 games fill fill rivers nope rathersburg big bend so more super bowls as well so people

1780
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:43,560
would say that well then they're both hall of famers right everybody you ask anybody today they

1781
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:49,720
say erin rogers better quarterback better career yeah only thing he has more of his touchdowns we also

1782
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:57,320
beat big bad in the super bowl 40 percent it's almost the exact same and has two and has two

1783
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:02,360
super bowls over rogers both are super unlikeable but rogers is not we have a lot of similarities

1784
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:06,360
here i believe it's for you i mean blind resume you wouldn't think those two were that close

1785
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:12,440
on the blind you sure one of those guys wasn't bernie 400 something touchdowns

1786
01:41:12,440 --> 01:41:16,680
i mean it's almost one of series camp it was Brian's height i thought that's right i want to

1787
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:21,240
talk about super balls lotty see there it is i get it real quick word association game good job

1788
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:26,440
down father word association game right here we're talking baseball only i'm gonna say i'm gonna say

1789
01:41:26,440 --> 01:41:41,400
the word you say the player that comes to mind smooth well carc jeep like that um crocker

1790
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:48,840
i just got i lost my train of thought all right carc you're telling me jeep wasn't smooth get out

1791
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:54,360
of here speed first guy that comes to mind ricky that was the first guy that came to my mind was

1792
01:41:54,360 --> 01:42:00,200
colman as well well you know what i have colman's teammate because i could picture him scampering

1793
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:09,480
around bases willy willy migay okay well that's time her tough what's that tough tough

1794
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:16,040
dustin for joya what a fake like what a fraud that guy was jesus christ he just rolled around the

1795
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:22,680
ground like curt chilling ground ball oh my god i'm gonna say tough tough curt gibson i don't

1796
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:29,880
thermon bunson actually a great great player yeah he was all right um i'm gonna say come on

1797
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:34,600
i'll draw you ever talk about the more arts george bretton wants to talk about laying the plane

1798
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,840
that that's that's an appropriate down here

1799
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:45,160
the that's input joya would chose the iron man dive into third baseman not even a flight

1800
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:50,280
that's a good call kevin nobody talked about rippon jr baseball first first guy that comes to

1801
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:58,840
mind he's talking about geerig with the glove vacuum donnie ballgame broke schrobbinson

1802
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:04,920
hazy smith i go smitty to the wizard i like the wizard that uh double play

1803
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:14,440
you could say one or two guys tinker is the average the chance would occur in uh trample good one

1804
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:22,280
your turn yep i'm saying jim rice because he hit him

1805
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:34,200
so many of them uh did you go yeah i ran off in dent i love it how about hose from the outfield

1806
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:43,400
hose barfield here he talked to white evidence hose again he's yeah i'll take flat i like bow

1807
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:48,680
too yeah they just had something i just saw some people dance literally like the five best throws

1808
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:54,120
and some of these guys i think he had one was amazing from like the wall the third on the fly

1809
01:43:54,120 --> 01:44:00,280
nephew press he like he like ruben seara the ball remember uh was it suspitous yeah oh and

1810
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:05,880
he has been for the rest of us man um lastly uh long ball

1811
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:15,000
the babe i actually think of rickie jackson because that was when i was as a kid that was a big thing

1812
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:23,000
why are i think of griffey just because at camden we have those little monuments out there

1813
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:28,120
griffey has one on that warehouse and maybe there's a further one but when i see that the

1814
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:32,120
few times i've seen it and then i looked the home plate i can't believe how far that

1815
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:36,840
whole drop of my derby did it glad you're right i couldn't hit a golf ball that far all right

1816
01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:40,520
hold on one more one more quick stat i just write something every day

1817
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:46,040
right i was just trying to read this one is acting real good i've got a lot of james one you know

1818
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:51,720
each row after after after each row is 10th at bat his batting career batting average never

1819
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:57,080
get below 300 yeah his entire career after 10 at bats after put 10 000 we got to put his

1820
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,720
japanese at bats and now so hey if you combine his hits with his major leagues it teased the

1821
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:07,000
all-time hit leader now there we go we're changing rules as we go major league baseball it's you're

1822
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:12,600
oh angry jay what do you got you're up you got the trivia question you guys are never going to get

1823
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:20,200
this oh good let's just sit around and look at we got 13 13 you kind of husky basketball players

1824
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:25,400
who played in the mcdonald's all-star game can you name a bill in the waiver i can give you i

1825
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:30,760
give you years you got bill in the waiver go ahead and rip hawkins rip rip is too who

1826
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:37,880
you're gonna hawkins tonight and make it dude i think i'll cancel stop on castle life's three

1827
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:45,960
he did in 2023 we got villain waiver in 03 we got rip hamilton in 96 daniel daniel in 91 the

1828
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:52,520
second husky to do it the second husky corny corny tomsen it was the first in 1978

1829
01:45:52,520 --> 01:46:01,000
bloody meadowton high wow was corny in it he was not no he was like 30 did ray play it you want to

1830
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:11,160
go years no he's like 30 like why years no okay um all done you're like Travis night had to play

1831
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:17,080
got the first two who's the first three corny got done yelling did you say ray on i'm sorry he said

1832
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:26,760
ray on his phone he said ray booknight no she passed to league brown playing it no rudie gay rudie gay

1833
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:35,880
yes sir 2004 how many we got here's your kid one two three four five six we got there's seven more

1834
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:41,480
can you give us their jersey numbers for the house no i'll give you 1997 was the farthest guy way that

1835
01:46:41,480 --> 01:46:48,600
you haven't got 1997 wow there's a lot of camo planted camo did plant it that was all way but

1836
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:55,960
that wasn't so 97 uh was it uh collid collid boom so we're missing there was two guys in 2000

1837
01:46:57,480 --> 01:47:04,600
so that team was the okra 14 that one at all had to be on that team well i said going away but

1838
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:13,400
uh who else was on that team who else was on that uncle for uncle hilty no no way uh ben gordon

1839
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:21,240
that's a good guess not rishad denim was not from boom united states

1840
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:31,080
who is it point card of that to leak to leak brown was one of that air oh my god you're gonna

1841
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:36,760
be shocked at this one another guy that did you say that did you say to leak brown i thought he did

1842
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:42,680
no he didn't well we're gonna listen to the so we're missing i apologize if i did there was also

1843
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:47,640
another guy why she said denim brown but he said i would never say i'm brown number 21 at russon

1844
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:54,920
not ricky you're not a huge fan of wait what was he in anguish also 2000 people to leak brown

1845
01:47:54,920 --> 01:48:03,240
in the McDonald's game he transferred he did not finish that you can transfer to you can

1846
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:11,400
or no no out of you where did he transfer to give it away yes okay i've got one more and i don't

1847
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:18,680
like him you do not like him you told me past stories oh what's going on there i got one more

1848
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:26,360
guess what he thinks about drumming no no nice guest what year 2000 do you want to school i think

1849
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:33,960
he's like i'm not even positive i'm pretty sure you you are i was oh oh hazelton sky hazelton yes

1850
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:41,080
he's in mcdonald's yes we're missing three guys two oh nine he was on a national championship team

1851
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:48,280
he also did not finish at uconn rossko or yaki boom so we're missing 2016

1852
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:52,600
this guy did not have much of a career at uconn he definitely transferred to boy's not a good player

1853
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:58,280
at uconn was he a good player somehow he's from now i think so he's from georgia i believe um like

1854
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:09,800
i think this is a guy right who's a guard guard i mean guard uh is this ollie timer no 2016 2016

1855
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:15,000
ollie was the coach no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

1856
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:20,920
last guy has not played a game yet but will soon i like him he's the one that kept hurting his

1857
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:25,640
children yes okay this guy has not actually played a game or it was the kid that was supposed to go

1858
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:35,480
to indiana yeah cam mcnealy no Liam Liam mcnealy yes 13 i said a bruin all right you got

1859
01:49:35,480 --> 01:49:44,520
no that was that was awesome man that's fun guys we're gonna wrap it up um bill walton um some people

1860
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:48,840
laugh at him like he's a dick vital i couldn't wait to hear him on whatever broadcast i love what

1861
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:54,840
he would call the pack 10 the conference of champions uh he obviously played basketball in an

1862
01:49:54,840 --> 01:50:00,120
era where these kids couldn't couldn't hack it nowadays with the tough physical post play

1863
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:04,840
in the like the hard files and just physicality not just because you're in the weight room because

1864
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:10,360
it actually was a bloodbath um and a highly skilled game your thoughts on bill walton

1865
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:18,840
don father you first not a fan why not shocker expect that he'd like to hear himself talk more

1866
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:24,280
than like to hear anything else he just reminds me of somebody talked and talked and talked and he

1867
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:29,560
just would find one player i mean if you loved some dynamite which was one thing i liked about him

1868
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:34,120
yeah but he'd latch on one person that's all he talked about for the entire game he was almost

1869
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unwatchable when he was broadcasting a game you're you're making this podcast almost unlistenable um

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01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:48,520
i loved him um one of the greatest college players ever his career usually is off the

1871
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charts he's a guy that what could have been he won an mvp report and led him to a championship and

1872
01:50:53,640 --> 01:51:00,680
then broke his foot and it was never ever healthy but one thing i did love bottom was his enthusiasm

1873
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:05,960
for the game of basketball as you got older and he was one of those guys that was the one thing

1874
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:10,680
that don father didn't like bottom i loved him about he was so enthusiastic during all these

1875
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:16,120
games and stuff body was also part of the greatest team of all time the 86 else i want to talk about

1876
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:23,400
that team six man body let me jump in before you because at that time in my life i was still a

1877
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:31,240
lakeer fan and i one of my favorite highlights of anything ever in any sport is when verse stole

1878
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:38,200
that ball and they beat that they beat the pistons him on the sideline in that short sleeve warm up

1879
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:44,840
coat just with his hands over his head kind of like laughing to himself saying like this is there's

1880
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:50,040
nothing better than this feeling and i he just really bought into the bird thing and the Celtic

1881
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:55,000
thing and his stories are off the track that him on the sidelines not participating because his

1882
01:51:55,000 --> 01:52:01,800
knees are shot at this point that's what sports is all about and i'm gonna miss the guy i really am

1883
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:07,080
ladi i just cracker will chime in let's go i'll tell you what i gotta go down i don't think you can

1884
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:12,200
mix the playing career with the broadcasting career i couldn't stand listen to the guy do a

1885
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:17,720
game i couldn't i couldn't take it dominique wilkins isn't a great broadcaster now i mean jesus

1886
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:24,440
we're not talking about him well as somebody as you know that loves college basketball in the history

1887
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he was probably what one of the top five college players of all time

1888
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:41,160
i mean he was 21 for 22 in an nca final to jay's point injuries ravaged his mba career

1889
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:49,080
um but i still think he was one of the best you know 75 players of all time so besides like the

1890
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:54,760
playing stuff i just loved that he loved and enjoyed life whether you like them as a commentator

1891
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:59,240
or not there's something to be said for people like that because you don't you don't find them and

1892
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:04,200
you don't listen to guys like that anymore everybody's miserable and depressed about something

1893
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:10,280
didn't seem like that guy was um so that's what i'm gonna hang on to like we need more people like

1894
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:15,320
that yeah my opinion so quick trivia this since we do it what number did he wear with four owned

1895
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30 okay with the selix five there we go how about ucla 32 and the captain was what at ucla 33 33

1896
01:53:27,480 --> 01:53:32,200
yeah of course it was who could ever take 33 88 game winning streak right before the irish

1897
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:41,000
strikes him off yeah and he took the last shot yeah i think he had multiple shots within the last 15

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all right it's been a long night everybody capital securities joe mariello thank you very much studio

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engineer kevin ross fucking crocker finally chimed in after an hour and 40 don father cranky tonight

1900
01:53:53,160 --> 01:54:02,120
man well i'm not here huh what i miss angry jay with the language is not uh our rated angry jay gave up on that screw it

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and it do what you gotta do okay see you next time everybody