1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,300 And the boys are back April 17, 2024. 2 00:00:11,300 --> 00:00:15,240 Pumped to be back in the studio with my guys, the commish. 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:21,160 Angry J, the Donfather, Haired Don Up, Studio Engineer, Kevin Ross. 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,580 And hosting it again, Lottie Dotty, the man who likes to potty. 5 00:00:25,580 --> 00:00:28,320 The tax man and crocker in the house. 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,320 Sponsors. 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,440 TNT remodeling, Skygazer brewing, coming up big. 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,680 Got a couple other whales coming in. 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:40,720 But guys, our number one sponsor, Joe Morello, vice president, 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,240 capital securities. 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,920 And you know their motto. 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,040 A life well planned. 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,360 He's been busy the last few weeks, right? 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,240 He marches in the parade. 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,040 You know that? 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,440 He's throwing basketballs. 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Yeah, he was throwing basketballs and beads out. 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,920 Yeah, you kind of love them. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,680 So are you guys? 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Where were you? 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,000 I was at the parade. 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,600 I was part of the parade. 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,280 I caught a basketball from Joe. 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:02,780 Did you? 25 00:01:02,780 --> 00:01:03,480 Yeah. 26 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,280 It said on a life well planned. 27 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,200 Let's go. 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,680 He can throw. 29 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,680 Oh, he's got a good arm. 30 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,120 He got a hose. 31 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Guys, we got a great guest tonight. 32 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,920 Yukon championship related. 33 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,520 But Yukon coming off the sixth natty. 34 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,200 I mean, everyone said it the whole year. 35 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,040 And guess what? 36 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,960 It happened. 37 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:29,200 And the romantic matchup number one versus number two 38 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,360 the whole year, essentially, it happened. 39 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Half time close game. 40 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,760 And they did what they always do. 41 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,960 They wore them down. 42 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:37,000 Huskies win a sixth. 43 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,960 They never disappointed. 44 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:38,720 They played defense. 45 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,640 They run that offense. 46 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,320 Unbelievable job of the Huskies. 47 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:46,320 I got to tell you, I mean, we were all kind of hoping 48 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,480 and expecting it. 49 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,840 I've been saying that their defense is as good as any I've 50 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,840 seen in the last 20 years. 51 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,720 They struggled a little bit in the first half. 52 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,240 But again, they just put a run on Purdue. 53 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,080 And lights out, man. 54 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Lights out. 55 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,040 One of the former teams, like I've seen Yukon have. 56 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,720 And I mean, just the word team, like wow, so one selfish, 57 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,280 so together, unbelievable. 58 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:17,960 Unbelievable. 59 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Never relaxed for a championship game like I did that one. 60 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:21,440 You know what I mean? 61 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,520 That's saying something. 62 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,880 Because I got my candles going. 63 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,400 You got your shirt on. 64 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,120 I never relaxed and felt comfortable in any other championship. 65 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,400 She does that one. 66 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,040 Yeah, they're a likable team. 67 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,240 I thought Al Pima played him the best of any team. 68 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,320 They made shots. 69 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Yeah, just offensively, they were very impressive. 70 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,440 But the Yukon perimeter defense against Purdue, 71 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,960 they made those guards look silly. 72 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,480 They were non-entities. 73 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,920 Donovan did a great job. 74 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:50,080 Got to give it up for Donovan. 75 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,080 Unbelievable job. 76 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,880 They didn't need to double down and leave those shooters 77 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,520 because Donovan did such a good job. 78 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,240 He was pushing them off his spot. 79 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Like he was making some 10 to 12 foot, like half hooks 80 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,000 that were impressive. 81 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,400 He was incredible making those shots. 82 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,040 And then when Johnson came in because Donovan 83 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,160 had gotten a little bit of foul trouble, 84 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,720 they started scraping down a little bit. 85 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,200 But then he couldn't guard Samson on the screen and roll. 86 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,320 They were just, they got the perfect college basketball 87 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:15,640 team. 88 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:19,880 And Kiribin would be an absolute stud with probably 90% 89 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,560 of the programs. 90 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,320 And he just kind of, he played his roll, 91 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,680 lockdown defender. 92 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,640 They were fun to watch. 93 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:29,800 And Hurley, he's fantastic. 94 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,920 They game plan. 95 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:33,560 And I know Donovan was with us a couple months ago. 96 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,880 And he was raving about the coaching staff. 97 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,160 Those guys are prepared. 98 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,280 The game plans are impeccable. 99 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,440 So congrats to the Huskers. 100 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Let's give it up for the Bristol kid. 101 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,680 I mean, he played unbelievable. 102 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,960 He gave us a great two year run. 103 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,760 So proud of him. 104 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Good luck in the NBA. 105 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,560 And let's get it. 106 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,680 Let's go, man. 107 00:03:52,680 --> 00:04:00,120 One noticing from that first 12, 14 minutes of E.D. 108 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,120 As he seemed like he was taking it personal, 109 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,240 we're trying to sprint with Donovan. 110 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,560 And he looked like he needed a paper bag after the 15th minute 111 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,920 because he was hyperventilating. 112 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,360 Dude, he couldn't do it anymore. 113 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,640 And like, after that, the only things he really did 114 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,080 was make free throws and bowl through caribans. 115 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,640 So like, Donovan did his job. 116 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,080 You might think he was dominated because the guy at 37 117 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,720 or whatever he had. 118 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:20,400 No, he wasn't. 119 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,680 His exhaustion was evident. 120 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,800 I couldn't believe Painter left him in for like the first 14, 121 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,880 15 minutes of the game. 122 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:26,880 They don't do anything else? 123 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,240 We were watching the game with my daughter. 124 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,360 And she's like, you think they should take him out? 125 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,840 I said, he needs to get off the floor for two or three minutes. 126 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,920 And in the second half, the first eight to 10 minutes, 127 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,200 he had nothing left to give him. 128 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,080 That's the thing, though. 129 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,840 They can't take him out. 130 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:42,600 Like, I mean, he literally sat for like, what, 30 seconds? 131 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,160 Yeah, that's right. 132 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,000 That's what they do. 133 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,280 But you had mentioned it on the previous podcast. 134 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,960 Like, the entire offense is throw it into him. 135 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Yeah. 136 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,920 Even that Braden Smith was a nice player. 137 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,200 Most teams double down in the law. 138 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,200 How could he be with a law? 139 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,080 The law kid in the semifinals was driving me nuts with his. 140 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,040 He literally didn't score against UConn. 141 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,720 Didn't score. 142 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,200 How about the first foul on him? 143 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,720 He's like doing the smiling Dwight Howard thing. 144 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Like, buddy, you're playing the wrong people. 145 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:13,400 So I saw they was 330 something games where they took over eight 146 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,320 three-pointers or more per do. 147 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,880 And against UConn in the championship game on Monday, 148 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:18,840 took seven. 149 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:20,000 They made one. 150 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,920 You guys remember the one they made? 151 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,600 It was ended in a shot clock. 152 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,360 I think Newton was right on somebody. 153 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,480 Like, right in front of UConn. 154 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,400 It was a tough shot. 155 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,840 Like, it was a really tough shot. 156 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:29,840 They made one. 157 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:31,200 How about that layup? 158 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,080 Newton made over Edie. 159 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,240 What the hell was that? 160 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,640 How he held the ball? 161 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,560 He got hit on it too. 162 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,480 If you're watching slow motion, got crushed on it. 163 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,920 Kev, you were there. 164 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,920 What's the environment like in the huge 90,000 C arena? 165 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,000 Because I know some people that said it was very pro per do. 166 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,360 Is that the sense that you got to? 167 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,880 It was 70% per do. 168 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:50,920 No way. 169 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,240 I mean, they have 40,000 students at a time in that school. 170 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,760 So it's huge. 171 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,720 And they all went and sold everything they had to go. 172 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,480 Think they're going to win this national championship. 173 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,480 And by the second half, it was pretty quiet. 174 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,480 Wow. 175 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,120 That's a good time. 176 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,400 Hey, how about the Illinois fans? 177 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,280 Got it going a few times. 178 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:10,120 Oh, no, you weren't at that one, right? 179 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,360 No, we got the second game. 180 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,840 One of the craziest runs in NCAA history, 181 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:16,360 the second half against Illinois. 182 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Yeah. 183 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,000 That was a fun run, man. 184 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Good for the Huskies. 185 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,920 Hey, Lottie, I want to tell you something, too. 186 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,000 I can't believe these conversations happen in my house. 187 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,680 But my teenage daughter goes at one point. 188 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,040 Dad, how come they're going over on every screen? 189 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,040 And we're behind them by a step or two. 190 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,920 And I'm like, I can't believe my daughter asked me this question. 191 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,320 But I go, I don't know. 192 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,800 But I think they'd rather not give up to three 193 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,280 and live with the two, because the two's going to be going 194 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:44,800 at the Ottoman and he's ready. 195 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,600 Funnel all the tough twos toward the kid from Bristol. 196 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,600 And that's what they did. 197 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,640 And occasionally, E.D. got his little dunks 198 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:51,840 and made his funny faces. 199 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:53,320 And that is a funny face. 200 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,880 And how'd that work out? 201 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,840 I know we've talked about, sorry, Commissioner. 202 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,240 I know we've talked about this a ton of times 203 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,880 on previous shows. 204 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,160 But me personally, I've never seen a two-year run the way 205 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,600 that Yukon put it on in those tournaments. 206 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,160 The closest game, I think, was Miami last year. 207 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Might have been like 13 points. 208 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,000 I was talking to Coach Givonazo, legend in Bristol. 209 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,800 And we were talking. 210 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,080 I don't remember a defensive team as good as Yukon. 211 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,240 It kind of brings me back to some of those early to mid-80s 212 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,960 Georgetown Hoya teams. 213 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,480 The way they could defend the perimeter 214 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,440 with their tough guards. 215 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,520 And Ewing was there to just block anything that got through. 216 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,360 But that's how impressive Yukon's defense was. 217 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,520 And for people that love basketball like us, 218 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,640 we love defense and defense, obviously, 219 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,000 they're very talented offensively. 220 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,880 But defense won that championship. 221 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,240 I think it's going to be really interesting to see 222 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,240 what he does next year. 223 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Because you can't doubt the guy. 224 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,680 He says, we're going to better get us now. 225 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:54,720 I can see it keep coming. 226 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,680 I mean, he's going to do a great job in the transfer 227 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,180 portal. 228 00:07:57,180 --> 00:07:59,080 I think they'll have a great year next year. 229 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,120 He loves the challenge. 230 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,080 There's no doubt about it. 231 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,040 I got to think that next year, it's not going to be like, 232 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,520 oh, Yukon's going to win it again. 233 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,480 They're going to have some work to do and then maybe get 234 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,200 a little luck by team. 235 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,680 Surprise is what he does. 236 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,440 Yeah. 237 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,640 He's going to have to win that. 238 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,760 I'm going to be surprised to see who's like the kid ball. 239 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,280 Is he going to stay? 240 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,040 He's got to stay. 241 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,280 He's got major minutes at the beginning of the year. 242 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,800 He didn't play the last month and a half, two months. 243 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,280 And Jalen Stewart got elevated a little bit. 244 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,120 I like his game. 245 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:25,840 He's got something going. 246 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,520 He's got something. 247 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,720 Really he's got something going. 248 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,760 The kids call it swag now and stuff, whatever. 249 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,680 He's boysful. 250 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:35,200 He's kind of like Patino was when he first started in the Big 251 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:35,700 East. 252 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:36,640 He's got that. 253 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,960 He's confident. 254 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,840 Every other school hates him. 255 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,240 He's not going to run away from him. 256 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,840 It's got the like, he doesn't care. 257 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,560 And he's fun, man. 258 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:50,120 I like the old Patino comparison because the new Patino, 259 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,520 obviously we can't stand anymore. 260 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 He became a caricature of the great coach. 261 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,240 But when he first started, he was Brad. 262 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,200 The Providence guy. 263 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,000 He was Brad. 264 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,760 He had Billy to kid you. 265 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,640 And then Billy to kid became a great coach 266 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,640 until he went to the NBA. 267 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,280 And now he's just a pawn. 268 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,760 I think it's also telling that his assistant coaches are 269 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,200 saying they're staying. 270 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:11,840 Right away. 271 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:12,160 Right away. 272 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:12,600 The next day. 273 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Like they have not, they don't want to go to mid majors 274 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,760 and make the same money they're making. 275 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,480 He loves him Luke and he loves him Mari. 276 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,840 They like to work together and they want to keep, 277 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,120 they want to go for the third one. 278 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Studio engineer, Kevin Ross. 279 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,560 Have they been offered though? 280 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:28,360 Not that I know of, but I mean, I've got to think somebody, 281 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,600 amid these, somebody's teams have got to be like, 282 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,480 well, make an offer. 283 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,080 Hurley certainly puts them out there. 284 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,560 They didn't have time to interview for anything, 285 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:37,560 but it doesn't look like they're interested in any, 286 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:39,040 they have to be getting calls. 287 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,120 I did love that Hurley came out like right, 288 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,000 because they mentioned Kentucky right away. 289 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,400 They literally just cut the net, you know, 290 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,320 and they're mentioned because he like shot it down immediately. 291 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,760 I absolutely loved it. 292 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,520 So they say put a statue of his wife outside of Gamble, 293 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,400 right? 294 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,680 I did, I did think if there was one kind of job, 295 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,520 it would be the blue bloody type of job. 296 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,880 A Duke and Shire ain't going anywhere. 297 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,840 Thank God, Philip Palski's out. 298 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Cooper flag. 299 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,720 Is that his name? 300 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:06,560 Yeah. 301 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:07,400 He made a mistake. 302 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,960 He should be a Husky. 303 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,800 North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, Indiana, whom I'm missing. 304 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:15,760 UCLA. 305 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,920 UCLA, Kentucky. 306 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Those are the teams. 307 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:18,960 Kansas. 308 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:19,880 Kansas. 309 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,080 You would think Hurley might think, you know what? 310 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Now I don't have to hear about Calhoun. 311 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,400 My father, my brother ever again, if I do it there, 312 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,480 but why would he leave? 313 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,080 He's in the ultimate blue blood. 314 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Yukon is the ultimate blue blood. 315 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,240 Six and 25 years is the definition of blue blood. 316 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,360 UCLA and Indiana haven't been relevant in years. 317 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,840 But this may be his agent talking, 318 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,680 but I know he came on. 319 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:44,720 The story is to come out that he hasn't closed the book 320 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,560 on the NBA. 321 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:46,640 He's not an NBA coach. 322 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Oh, he's definitely right in our way. 323 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,800 His players would boycott. 324 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,800 They couldn't take him. 325 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,040 The refs would boycott. 326 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,880 He's a great college coach. 327 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,920 Some of those female refs that beat him up 328 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,600 with all those crying. 329 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,360 All right, no. 330 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,160 So we have to do this. 331 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,360 Sorry, listeners. 332 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,560 We're in a basketball mood here, mode. 333 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:11,800 One of the greatest has retired. 334 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,520 And I mean one of the greatest. 335 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,440 I think the Yankees lose. 336 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,960 The Yankees lose. 337 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,600 John Sterling is done. 338 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,960 Back to back in a belly to belly. 339 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,040 The great John Sterling has hung it up. 340 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,360 And he knows that that's going to propel this. 341 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,320 It's going to be part of the special story when 342 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,720 the Yankees pushed it across the goal line with Soto. 343 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,960 Bunted for a hit on Sunday, by the way. 344 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:34,840 Just so you guys know. 345 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,800 I don't know if you tuned in. 346 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,160 But the great John Sterling. 347 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Great listen. 348 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,120 The best thing about John Sterling 349 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,400 is that all the other fans hated him. 350 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,240 And you had to be like, oh, but this guy. 351 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,440 And he grew on you over the years. 352 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,080 Unbelievable presence. 353 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,840 He'll be missed. 354 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,680 The corner he got, the more I liked him. 355 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:56,120 So real quick, guys, just think of your favorite. 356 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,160 You can't imitate him. 357 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,040 But like your favorite Sterling call, 358 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,960 what was the nickname for the player? 359 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,160 My favorite is that's baseball Susan. 360 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:03,920 I love that one. 361 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,160 I want that shirt. 362 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,120 That's like, you know, his, to me, that's like, just sums up him. 363 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Kamish, it does. 364 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,040 I want you to think when we go around the horn here, 365 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,160 I want a home run call with the nicknames, 366 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,640 because he got crazy nicknames. 367 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,320 Can we get one? 368 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,480 I just like the burn baby burn one. 369 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Because he had some huge playoff home runs. 370 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,600 And those are the ones that stick out to me against Myers 371 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:30,120 in 96 and ALCS and against Arthur Rhodes to right center field. 372 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,120 And one of the ALCS is burn baby burn. 373 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Remember what he said before, burn baby burn? 374 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,680 Burn to go to the boom. 375 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:39,120 Burn to go to the boom. 376 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,240 He is a lot of good ones. 377 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,280 There's two things I remember. 378 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,880 When he first got the job, I remember, 379 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,200 I forgot where I was going. 380 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,480 But I just remember for some reason, they were playing Kansas City. 381 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,400 And I'm listening to it. 382 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,800 And Kansas City got like two or three guys thrown out, 383 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,680 running a basis. 384 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:56,240 And he literally sat on the radio. 385 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,360 He goes, boy, do you think he's going to be, well, 386 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,240 be far behind if Kansas City wasn't running a basis 387 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,320 like they were drunken sailors, which I thought was absolutely 388 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:05,720 hilarious. 389 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,720 I didn't know you could even do that on the radio. 390 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,480 And you're talking about home run calls. 391 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,760 The 95 home run mangley hit. 392 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Oh my god. 393 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,280 If it's not on YouTube, they just 394 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,480 have the Gary Thorn one that was from. 395 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,320 I got it on a cassette somewhere. 396 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,240 I have it on a cassette. 397 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,520 Also, I actually bought it. 398 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,400 And it's. 399 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,200 Gotta find it. 400 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,160 I never heard that. 401 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,560 It's after Rubens here was, Sierra hit one before it. 402 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:30,640 And Manly hits it off Andy Benes. 403 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,560 And he says, you know, back to back and belly to belly. 404 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,400 And you know, the place is up for grabs. 405 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,200 The call is phenomenal. 406 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:38,680 Phenomenal. 407 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:39,720 I'd like to hear that. 408 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,960 I kind of like the E-bomb from A-Rod. 409 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Not me. 410 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,560 That was one of my least favorite. 411 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:46,720 I don't care what you like. 412 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,120 I didn't like A-Rod, man. 413 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,000 I mean, you and Andrew J love A-Rod. 414 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,680 Mine is like an obscure player. 415 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:56,320 But we had Todd Frazier for a minute. 416 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,440 Downtown goes Frazier. 417 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,240 I thought that was just clever. 418 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,000 With all those corny ones, I thought that was clever. 419 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Real quick, we're going to wrap it out for Johnny Sterling. 420 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Like very, very sad. 421 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,080 Hey, Mike Gorman too. 422 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:13,800 Yeah. 423 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,200 The voice of the big East. 424 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:15,920 Last Celtic game. 425 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,520 Tough day for you, Angry J, huh? 426 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Voice of the big East and Voice of the Celtics. 427 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,040 Jeez. 428 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Both things are playing well, though. 429 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Always did that noon big East game on Saturday. 430 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:25,920 Saturday? 431 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,280 Oh my god. 432 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,480 All right, so shifting gears to happier times. 433 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,160 You guys don't know who's coming in tonight, 434 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,080 but I mentioned it was a basketball guest, 435 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,000 and I mentioned it with the Yukon Natty reference. 436 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,240 This guest is a native of Port Chester, New York. 437 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,800 He was a forward for the Yukon Huskies from 1995 to 1999. 438 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,600 He was the co-captain, one of the co-captains 439 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,360 of Yukon's first ever national championship team in 1999. 440 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,520 He enjoyed winning the big East championship three years 441 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,320 when we owned the big East when we took over. 442 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,000 He made the all tournament team in his native state of New York 443 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,240 as a junior, big East tournament. 444 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,080 As a youngster, this guy played all sports, 445 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,480 but after going to Trinity Catholic in Stanford, 446 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,240 he decided basketball would be his sport. 447 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,840 Guys, do you have any clue who we're having on? 448 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,480 I got an idea. 449 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,400 I have a good idea. 450 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,360 Who is it? 451 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,440 Ross Jones. 452 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Geez, the whole time, I thought I fooled you. 453 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,200 He laid the groundwork for what we're dealing with today. 454 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,920 They have all these championships. 455 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,840 We want to introduce, and we're pumped, 456 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,400 and this is great timing, to introduce number three 457 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,440 from Trinity Catholic. 458 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Thank you very much. 459 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,320 The Yukon Huskies. 460 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Thank you for having me, guys. 461 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,880 Hey, Ov-Jones. 462 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,480 There's so much we want to ask you about, 463 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,520 and I hate to bore you with going way back, 464 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,080 but as far as Connecticut hoop fans 465 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,800 remembers the name, Ross Mel Jones, 466 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,520 you were quite a player at Trinity Catholic. 467 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Like to just ask you, seeing that you're not from Connecticut, 468 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,200 how did you find your way to Trinity Catholic, 469 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,920 and what else did you play as a youngster besides hoops? 470 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,360 My first love was actually baseball. 471 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,880 That was my first love. I picked that up around six, 472 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,760 seven years old. 473 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,600 After that, my second love was football, 474 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,160 and then I picked up basketball like around 12 years old. 475 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,120 That's awesome. 476 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,480 And then you, a Yankee fan, by the way, from New York? 477 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,720 You know, people, when I talk about my New York teams, 478 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,080 people will be like, what? 479 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,160 I'm a New York guy to the death, so I don't just 480 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,040 go for the Yankees. 481 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,080 I go for the Mets. 482 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,240 I go for the Rangers. 483 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,520 I go for the Islanders. 484 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Anything New York I go for. 485 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Don't say to Jets that you're kicked off. 486 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,480 I respect that. 487 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,560 I respect that. 488 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,760 No, the Jets are Jersey. 489 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,440 I consider them New Jersey. 490 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,560 How about the Knicks, man? 491 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,800 The Knicks are fun. 492 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,440 We are kicking butt right now, and I'm loving every second of it. 493 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,840 It's been a long time coming for us New York fans. 494 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,880 Tim's got the boys playing some defense. 495 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,720 So yes, they are. 496 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,120 How did you find your way to Stanford at Trinity Catholic? 497 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:17,040 Well, my gym teacher, Richard Albanesea, 498 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,320 he had got the varsity football job at Trinity Catholic. 499 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,640 They were still Stanford Catholic before I got there. 500 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,760 So he just got the head job. 501 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,160 He just got the head job, and he was my gym teacher. 502 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,840 So I played modified football. 503 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,320 In eighth grade, I played junior varsity football 504 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,720 back in New York in eighth grade. 505 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,880 So he thought that I would make that transition and go play 506 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,520 varsity for him on the high school team. 507 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,040 So he's the reason how I got to Connecticut. 508 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,520 In New York, you could play at the high school level 509 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,160 in eighth grade? 510 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,160 Yes. 511 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,560 It was junior varsity. 512 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,400 It wasn't varsity. 513 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,960 I was on junior varsity. 514 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,960 Still, our rules are terrible. 515 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,320 We can't do that here. 516 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,360 We can't call up an eighth grader to play JV. 517 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,280 No, we can't do it. 518 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,960 No, that's not true. 519 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,800 There's a kid in Bridgeport. 520 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,160 His name is Travis. 521 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,160 Which Travis last name? 522 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Man, he actually played varsity in eighth grade 523 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,720 at a private institution. 524 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,840 He was at a private school. 525 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,680 So I think private schools have different rules of regulation. 526 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,200 You're right. 527 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:26,800 You're right. 528 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,160 There's a few CIC guys here that were involved in the CIC, 529 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,920 but that coach in the CIC. 530 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,760 So how about the documented? 531 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,320 How long was the length of your school day 532 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,440 seeing that you had quite a travel in from the city? 533 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Yeah, it was definitely. 534 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,000 I was up at 5.30 every morning. 535 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,400 I hopped on that 706 train. 536 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,120 I pulled into the Stanford train station about 8.15 537 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:00,560 every morning, and then I would hop on a school bus. 538 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,600 Well, it wasn't actual school bus. 539 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,400 They would send a janitor to come pick me up in the school 540 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,240 van. 541 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,720 And that's how I got to school for four years. 542 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Rash, as a FISED teacher myself, I 543 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,800 know the impact those type of teachers can have on a young 544 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,840 person. 545 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,640 So I appreciate the story, and you followed your coach 546 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,560 and your FISED teacher to Trinity Catholic. 547 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,160 And then you played for a legendary coach, Mike Walsh. 548 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,840 Can you talk a little bit about him? 549 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,840 And we can get into your accolades at Trinity Catholic. 550 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,840 They were amazing off the charts, fifth time leading score, 551 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,480 in Connecticut. 552 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,960 But talk a little bit about Coach Walsh's influence, 553 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,800 not only as a basketball player for you, but as a person. 554 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,720 Coach Walsh was very instrumental, 555 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,200 and pretty much getting me to where I am at this moment 556 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,680 in my life now. 557 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,440 Coach Walsh was not just my basketball coach. 558 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,160 He was a father figure. 559 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,440 And I'm just going to put it out there like that. 560 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,880 Anything I didn't know, I can go to him. 561 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,320 He would answer it if he didn't know the answer. 562 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,840 He would scramble to make sure he got the answer for me. 563 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,240 He cared about my well-being off the court. 564 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,520 I mean, there's times where we have a late game. 565 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,120 It's probably 9, 9.30 at night. 566 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:23,040 Instead of me taking a train home like I did, 567 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,480 Coach Walsh would drive me home, things of that nature. 568 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,120 So Coach Walsh was more than my coach. 569 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:35,040 To this day, 2024, he and I still have a great relationship. 570 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,240 We talk all the time. 571 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,280 So like I said, those type of people, 572 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,160 they just become family after a while. 573 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,240 And that's how I look at them. 574 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,440 He know my whole family. 575 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,920 My whole family knows him. 576 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,840 And it's a beautiful thing to have that type of relationship. 577 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Rash, I got to tell you one Mike Walsh story, my only one. 578 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,720 I coached class S girls hoops. 579 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,360 And one year, we were semi-average 580 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,320 and just made our way into the state tournament. 581 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,520 And we had a first round game at Trinity Catholic. 582 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,280 And I got down there. 583 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,600 And I didn't know that he was coaching. 584 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,840 But all of a sudden, he ended up on the girls' sidelines. 585 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,240 And don't you know, they win it. 586 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,440 They win it in his only year with girls. 587 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,760 And he told me how it happened, that their coach 588 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,640 kind of billed on him. 589 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,000 And he got a phone call in Florida. 590 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,480 And he said to the wife, looks like I 591 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,920 got to go back for a couple months. 592 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,080 He won the state championship. 593 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,160 Yeah. 594 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,800 And that's exactly how it played out. 595 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,320 That just shows you the type of team player, coaches. 596 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,400 He was a lifelong member within the Stanford Catholic, 597 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,200 the whole Stanford community, for that matter. 598 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:50,920 Forget about it. 599 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,920 Coach, they're coach kids from the Stanford High, West Hill. 600 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,720 Every school in the Stanford area, 601 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,040 coach has put his hands on them in some shape, form, or fashion. 602 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,760 And like you said, took over the girls' program 603 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,920 and took them all the way to the final game and winning it. 604 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,960 That's just who coach is. 605 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,520 Coach jumps into things without even thinking about it, 606 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,440 because that's who he is. 607 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,720 He and Coach Calhoun are kind of similar. 608 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,640 And that's a reason why I went to UConn just 609 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,600 on the father figure types that they are. 610 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,440 They're not just high school coaches. 611 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,560 These guys really do a lot of work behind the scenes, 612 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,520 making sure that all of their players 613 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,840 are doing what they have to do, classroom, and off the court. 614 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,160 Brosh, I got to ask you this. 615 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,680 Being a huge high school fan, obviously, you 616 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,960 had a storied career at 2300 points. 617 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,760 Trinity Catholic was always, we would always 618 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,680 go see him play in the state tournament. 619 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,040 And you guys were quarterfinals, semifinals, finals. 620 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Who were some of the other guys that you played with? 621 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,800 I remember Oshji was there. 622 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,760 He was after you? 623 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,960 Was he after you? 624 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,440 Oshji came after me. 625 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,400 And Dave McClure? 626 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,400 The only after me. 627 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,080 You know, all the bigger names in Connecticut, 628 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:15,080 the Oshji's, the Dave McClure's, Tori Thomas'. 629 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,680 All of those guys came after me. 630 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,240 My role I play with was Earl Johnson. 631 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,440 Earl went to Rutgers. 632 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,000 Yeah, yeah. 633 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,800 He went to Rutgers. 634 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,320 All right. 635 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,600 Yep, he went to Rutgers. 636 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,120 And so he was my point guard for three years. 637 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,200 He was tough, man. 638 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Where'd he go, Holy Cross? 639 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,520 No, Earl Johnson went to Rutgers. 640 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,160 No, no, no, no, Tori. 641 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,960 Oh, yeah, Tori. 642 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,040 Oh, Tori, yeah. 643 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Yeah, Tori went to Holy Cross. 644 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,320 And it's so funny. 645 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,280 Tori's my cousin. 646 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,960 Yes, his brother is married to my cousin. 647 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,760 They have family and everything. 648 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,480 So I knew Tori coming up as a youngster. 649 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,480 So that's how close he and I, Earl Johnson, 650 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,600 is right from poor Chester. 651 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,320 So we're New York guys. 652 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,560 Tori was diminutive, right? 653 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,360 Like he's a tiny, not tiny. 654 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:08,800 He's a smaller point guard. 655 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,600 And like, he was muscle muscular. 656 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,560 Oh, he was built, yeah. 657 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,200 Is Holy Cross in a Patriot conference over there? 658 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:15,920 Patriot League, yeah. 659 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,080 Yeah, he had a heck of a career. 660 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Yep. 661 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Yes, he did. 662 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,280 Had a hell of a career. 663 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,200 If I'm not mistaken, he's still overseas right now, 664 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,440 playing to this day. 665 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Is he really? 666 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Wow. 667 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,000 I wanted to ask you, you followed the program, 668 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:31,760 obviously, right? 669 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,840 So you talked about Earl, Tori, and then Dave and Craig. 670 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,920 Do you remember the name Tevin Baskin? 671 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,280 Of course, I know Tevin. 672 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,920 Man, we watched them play Crosby at Yukon. 673 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,800 At Yukon at Campo. 674 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,600 He was a junior. 675 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,720 I mean, not like Duncan's the ball is a big deal, 676 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,040 but he must have dunked the ball eight times in a game. 677 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,080 I thought this guy would be in the NBA. 678 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,880 You know what I mean? 679 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,240 You know, yeah, yeah. 680 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,800 It's, you know, that NBA level is a monster. 681 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,480 And I tell people that all the time. 682 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,600 You know, as good as I was, as good as Tevin was, 683 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,280 and a lot of players that came through Trinity, 684 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,960 you know, that NBA level is something else. 685 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,400 You know, you have to be in the right fit, 686 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,760 right attributes, height, size. 687 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,440 You know, a lot of that goes into play. 688 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,400 You know, you can have two guys, both six, 689 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,400 you know, six, four, six, five, 690 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,640 but they're going to take that guy who probably 691 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,160 can guard multiple players, you know, 692 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,280 probably can play multiple positions. 693 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,400 So, you know, it comes down to a lot of different tangibles 694 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,280 when you're making it to going to that league. 695 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,120 Do you remember? 696 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,960 He was a hell of a player. 697 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Do you remember a kid by the last name of Screlja? 698 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,160 He might have went to Brown. 699 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Mike Screlja, you remember this kid. 700 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,040 He was sticking his nose. 701 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,040 Yeah, yeah, he said screens and just rink. 702 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,040 Yeah, kids over. 703 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,040 How about football player? 704 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520 Yeah, yeah, and then next Tromboli, 705 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,920 which Tromboli went to Trinity? 706 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,160 That was TJ. 707 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,000 Yeah, he gets you. 708 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,640 Is that the one from Vermont or did he go to Vermont? 709 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,880 Yeah, that was the one with the Vermont, hell of a shooter. 710 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,160 Yeah, he was a Stony Brook killer. 711 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,840 You guys have a hell of a, uh-uh. 712 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,280 What a program. That's a program, man. 713 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,720 Wow. Let me ask you something else. 714 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,720 I mean, you know, you talk about Tromboli. 715 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,880 His dad was a high school coach. 716 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,040 Dad coached Trumbull High School for many years. 717 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:27,320 So, TJ came up a basketball player from a baby. 718 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,320 Yeah, good player. 719 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,320 How about coach Walsh? 720 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,480 Like, how were your practices? 721 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,400 I was just kind of curious what you guys ran. 722 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,680 Like, what you ran for offense, defense and stuff. 723 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,800 You're mostly man to man, or not? 724 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,600 That's very interesting. 725 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,160 We played man to man the whole game. 726 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,080 Our practices were more like scrimmages, to be honest. 727 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,000 Coach would divide the team up, 728 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,960 and we'll just play amongst each other 729 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,960 just to really, you know, get a feel for each other 730 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,240 and get a feel for just playing the game. 731 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,680 Not so much of running plays, but knowing where to be. 732 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,440 And that's what coach was big on. 733 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:01,840 Love it. 734 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Rush, we all played high school and sports 735 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,560 at different levels, and there's always games and moments 736 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,040 that we remember. 737 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,800 I was reading something about the 1993 FCAC final, 738 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,440 and that was one of the things that you remember the most. 739 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,400 Do you remember any detail from that game 740 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,240 and what made you so proud about that victory? 741 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,720 They were undefeated, right, Fairfield at the time? 742 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,680 Oh, oh, Fairfield was undefeated. 743 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,160 Eisenbach was on that team. 744 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,880 Quincy Shannon, Derek Klumkowski, 745 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,640 those were their big three right there. 746 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,560 And we were underdogs by a long shot. 747 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,000 No one thought we had a shot in that game. 748 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,560 Trinity, Stanford Catholic has never 749 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,480 won an FCAC title till that point. 750 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,320 And it was just a big accomplishment 751 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,280 for the school at that point. 752 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,040 We just got the new name, Trinity. 753 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,760 We were just trying to carve out our identity 754 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,880 and things of that nature. 755 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,680 And that game was the start of our run, 756 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800 up in our 20-year run that we had. 757 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,800 So that game was the pivotal game. 758 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,240 In a sense, just talking about it, 759 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,360 it almost kind of remind me of the Yukon in 99 760 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:16,440 when we beat Duke after that first national title. 761 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,920 We got five more after that. 762 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,400 So that was a big win. 763 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,920 Hey, hey, Rasha. 764 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,840 I watched a bunch of interviews with you earlier today. 765 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,360 And Warren, how you said you didn't start 766 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,480 playing organized ball cue at about 12 years old 767 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,880 because of a lack of opportunity, 768 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,680 not as many AU teams round back then as there are now. 769 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,200 If you're a high school coach right now, 770 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,640 do you want that kid that's been playing AU 771 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,840 since they were six years old? 772 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,520 Or do you want that kid that was playing outside 773 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,960 at Mountain Vernon Fourth Street Park 774 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,640 and played AU for a couple of years coming in? 775 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,400 Who do you rather have as a coach? 776 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,160 You know, as long as they have a motor 777 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,160 and they have just wanting to learn, 778 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,840 I don't care where they come from. 779 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,680 I don't care. 780 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,520 As long as they come with just that engine 781 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080 and soak up all the information 782 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,240 that I'm going to give them. 783 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120 That's what matters at the end of the day. 784 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,640 You know, taking the kids from the AU circuit, 785 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,960 one thing you know, he may be a little bit more polished, 786 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,960 may know the game a little bit more, some rules, 787 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,040 maybe a little bit more, 788 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,200 a little bit more skillful, 789 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,800 especially nowadays with all these kids having trainers 790 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,120 and things of that. 791 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080 And you know, that kid coming from the park, 792 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800 he's hungry, you know, that kid that's in the park 793 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,840 just playing for the love of the game. 794 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,560 And who's in that park every day, all day, 795 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,920 seven days a week, you know, 796 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,600 that kid is hungry and looking for opportunities. 797 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,200 So, you know, you can't go wrong, you know, once again, 798 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,200 if that kid coming from AU is just as hungry. 799 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,200 There's some pretty good games at that park too, right? 800 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,720 Marv, Arner? 801 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,440 Oh my goodness, forget about it. 802 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,560 Fourth Street has made a lot of players, 803 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,600 Ben Gordon, he's from Mount Vernon. 804 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,880 Man, the list goes on. 805 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,760 We had players, you know, a lot of Rob Sool, 806 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,000 who went to Mount Vernon High School, 807 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,800 played at Hawaii, played overseas. 808 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,400 We also had Jonathan Mitchell, who played at Florida. 809 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,360 Jonathan, I think he won a national title 810 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640 in Florida as well. 811 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,080 So, like I said, Mount Vernon is the number one basketball 812 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,520 place in the whole Westchester County. 813 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,800 And for a few years, we were number one 814 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,560 in the whole entire New York state. 815 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Beating, you know, Lincoln and Brooklyn. 816 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,040 We, you know, we own New York for some years. 817 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440 So, I gotta ask you this, I'm familiar 818 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,840 with the Mount Vernon program, 819 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,320 because we actually were trying to recruit 820 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,880 some of the kids, like the seventh and eighth, man. 821 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,480 I coach Division III, so. 822 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,920 But, how, like was that hard for you 823 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,520 to go to Trinity Catholic with that there, Mount Vernon? 824 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,200 That could be, that program is, 825 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,240 the guys there too, it's kind of like, 826 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,600 they're so well organized. 827 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,800 I thought they'd be like some kind of pressing 828 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,960 full court trapping team. 829 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,760 I mean, they just, they run their stuff. 830 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,640 Practices are ridiculously disciplined. 831 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,880 I mean, was it hard for you passing that up? 832 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Well, no, it wasn't hard. 833 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,160 And, you know, it's, I'm so connected to that 834 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,400 because Coach Semino, who's the head coach 835 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,720 to this day of the varsity, he was my baseball coach. 836 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,560 He's still there. 837 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,600 He's still there, wow. 838 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,480 Yeah, he's coached Semino still there. 839 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,920 So, he was my baseball coach, 840 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,600 my literally baseball coach for about four years. 841 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,080 And then, you know, I had moved out of Mount Vernon 842 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,440 for some time, moved to my grandmother 843 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,000 to Port Chester, New York. 844 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,360 So, I kind of was disconnected 845 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,000 from the whole Mount Vernon farm team, 846 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,720 because Coach Semino has what you call the junior night. 847 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880 That's like middle school kids getting ready for high school. 848 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,960 I didn't attend Mount Vernon middle school, 849 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200 because at the time I was living with my grandmother 850 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,440 in Port Chester, so this is how Coach Albanese 851 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,600 and I connected is when I transferred to Port Chester. 852 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,720 And, you know, so I really didn't, 853 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,000 I really wasn't under Semino's watch, 854 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,520 like the rest of the kids were in Mount Vernon. 855 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360 Hey, you were mentioning all the people 856 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,040 that are from Mount Vernon. 857 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,520 I learned this at a Mount Vernon basketball game. 858 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,880 Denzel Washington? 859 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,720 Yeah. 860 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,560 Did you guys know that? 861 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,400 Yeah, but, oh, yeah. 862 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,240 I never knew that until about seven or eight years ago. 863 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,960 I was at a Mount Vernon game, 864 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,320 people they were telling me, 865 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,880 I just think of the King Kong training day movie. 866 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Yep, training day. 867 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,720 Milwagner and DeWine Wagner too, I think. 868 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,560 Where they? 869 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,040 No, Wagner, they're from Jersey. 870 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,120 No, they're from Jersey. 871 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,840 I thought Milwagner, I'm thinking the Louisville brothers, 872 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,240 they're, jeez, I shouldn't have brought it up. 873 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,080 Scooter and riding? 874 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,640 Yeah, I'm a craze, I'm a craze, boys. 875 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,640 I'm a craze, boys, yes, yes, yes. 876 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Yep, they're from there. 877 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,680 Yep, Denzel Washington, 878 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600 he funds our Boys and Girls Club in Mount Vernon. 879 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,160 Yeah, she's... 880 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,160 You know, the rapper, Heavy D, Rest of Soul, 881 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,120 the one who's in the media right now, 882 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,760 Sean Combs, he's from my hometown. 883 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,200 Ah, man, you know, Pete Roxy, El Smove, there's a few. 884 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,040 You know, there's a few of them. 885 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,880 I got a history lesson. 886 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,720 There's a lot of reviews out there. 887 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,720 I got a history lesson, I was there, yeah. 888 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,720 Clyde Vaughn too, Clyde Vaughn. 889 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,560 Who? 890 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Clyde Vaughn. 891 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,360 Get out of here. 892 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Clyde Vaughn from Robert Brinton. 893 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,640 So, Roch, you have a story? 894 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,920 No, Clyde, he's from the New Yorkshire. 895 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Oh, New Rochelle, I thought it was in my friend, 896 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,360 and that's not bad. 897 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,360 Hey, so you had a story? 898 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,520 No, he's from New Rochelle. 899 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,240 You had a story in high school career. 900 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,680 What was the recruiting process like? 901 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,200 How much mail were you getting? 902 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,880 Who would you narrow your teams down to? 903 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880 And tell me how your grandmother influenced your decision. 904 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,160 I'll tell you a quick story. 905 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,640 When I got to Trinity, my first year, 906 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,640 Coach Wall, she catches me. 907 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Probably, this was right before the basketball season 908 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,640 actually started. 909 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,840 He came to me because I was actually gonna play football. 910 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,560 I never even played football in high school, 911 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,800 so you guys know. 912 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,160 And Coach I was mad at me. 913 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,440 He's probably mad at me to this day for that. 914 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,360 But when I got there, Coach Wall said to me, 915 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,920 he said, I was in the office, 916 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,120 and he brought a glad bag, like a garbage bag with him, 917 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,240 and I'm looking at the bag. 918 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:12,640 He asked me, how many letters do you got for football? 919 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,880 I said zero to my nose. 920 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,200 No, none. 921 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,280 He said, how many letters you got for baseball? 922 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,200 I said zero. 923 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,080 So he said, well, look, this is for you. 924 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,640 This is your basketball letters. 925 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,640 Now mind you, the season didn't even start yet. 926 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,240 First letter I pull out was a Georgetown letter. 927 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:31,360 Then I'm pulling out Carolina. 928 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,840 I'm just pulling out. 929 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,360 I pulled out, it was like I said, 930 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,640 it was over 200 colleges in this garbage bag he had for me. 931 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,440 And he said, you know what? 932 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,920 This is your proof to show you this is your past. 933 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,280 And he threw the bag at me, 934 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,400 and I went home that night, told my grandmother, 935 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,440 she said, well, you should just stick with this one. 936 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,320 This is what's showing you more interest. 937 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,680 And I made that decision in ninth grade 938 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,000 that it's just gonna be basketball from here on out. 939 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,080 So as I've, you know, getting to the basketball, 940 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,960 I was having me recruited since my freshman year, 941 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,960 you know, Dayhine, Bobby Knight, Dean Smith. 942 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,360 You name it. 943 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,200 You name it. 944 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,800 They were interested. 945 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,280 Narrowed it down to Florida State, 946 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,800 Indiana, UMass, Yukon, Syracuse and Boston College. 947 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,840 Cause I kind of want to stay around the area. 948 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,280 Florida State was the furthest and Indiana, 949 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,400 those two were the furthest schools that I had, 950 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,840 but I really pretty much wanted to stay around the area 951 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,800 so my family can come watch me play. 952 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,280 Coaches, you know, they're coming to your practices, 953 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,840 can't talk to you, but they're watching through the doors 954 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,840 and things like that. 955 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,640 So I was seeing these coaches 956 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,160 from my freshman year in the building. 957 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,120 Say hi, I'm Shmay. 958 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,680 So you get to your senior year, they're starting, 959 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,960 you know, you're being recruited. 960 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,240 Talk about the home visits and Calipari and CalHoon visits 961 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,600 and your grandmother had something to say about that, right? 962 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,600 Oh man, you did your homework. 963 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,440 I did. 964 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,280 Yeah. 965 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,600 Yeah, my, you know, who was at first that came by, 966 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,040 it was, I think Coach CalHoon came first 967 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,080 and him, Howie Dickerman and Dave Lado came to the house. 968 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,160 You know, they put the tape in, 969 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,560 pretty much describing the school, you know, 970 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,320 going through the whole campus, 971 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,400 then they get down to the basketball program, you know, 972 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,080 and one thing he said to me at that time was, you know, 973 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,520 Raj, I got a great, a great player here 974 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,720 by the name of Ray Allen. 975 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:41,040 So he said, if you come in and play defense, 976 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,160 you might see some minutes on the floor. 977 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,280 And that's exactly what he said. 978 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,680 You might see some minutes on the floor. 979 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,520 So I'm like, okay, sounding good. 980 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,800 So that next week, literally Calipari came in 981 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,800 and he did the same thing, popped his tape in, 982 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,000 but his tape was a little different. 983 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,080 He had like an announcer starting me, 984 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,280 had me starting in the lineup, announcing my name. 985 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,160 He had me as the freshman of the year. 986 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,800 He had some, he had me down as just being top freshman 987 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,200 in the country. 988 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560 So after he had his little spiel, he left. 989 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,360 My grandmother literally just said, I don't trust this guy. 990 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,000 He sounds like a car salesman. 991 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,840 He's way up. 992 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,160 And I'm like, yeah, I said, okay, Graham, 993 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,520 she's like that Calhoun guy, I trust him. 994 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,400 He didn't promise you anything. 995 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,840 He just said, if you come in here, work hard, 996 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,160 you might play. 997 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,960 He said, I think you should go with that guy. 998 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,760 And I listened, luckily I listened to her 999 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,640 because literally I think it was probably four, 1000 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,280 four to five days later, Calipari put his name in the NBA 1001 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,600 and goes and coached the New Jersey net. 1002 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,960 Unbelievable, man, that's unbelievable. 1003 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,600 Hey, how cool of a dude is Howie? 1004 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,640 Everyone we know from, you know, that circle 1005 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,680 and even the Central Connecticut guys that we know, 1006 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,120 they love Coach Dickerman. 1007 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,600 Oh man, Coach D is my guy. 1008 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,880 Like, oh man, I have so many stories that Coach D, 1009 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,360 you know, Coach D, he worked with our big guys. 1010 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,320 The Eric Haywood, the Travis Knight, the Kirk King, 1011 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,360 he worked with those guys and the drills he did 1012 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,640 with those guys, like the guards on the other end, 1013 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,480 we used to just turn around and look at him. 1014 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,880 He would literally line up the big men on the wall, 1015 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,080 like they're playing dodgeball. 1016 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,560 And he's like, he's like at the dotted line, 1017 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,080 not even a foul line. 1018 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,640 And he is firing the ball at these guys. 1019 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,480 And if they, 1020 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,480 I would love to know what the plan is. 1021 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,400 And if they drop it, I'd throw the catcher. 1022 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,680 No, it's working on their hands. 1023 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,240 It's like, you know, if a guard throw the ball in the post, 1024 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,560 they better catch it. 1025 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,880 So we worked on this stuff and we used to be like, 1026 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,680 Coach D is nuts, he's having fun down here. 1027 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,160 He's just firing the ball, big guys are ducking, 1028 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,360 not catching the ball. 1029 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,160 So, you know, and then on the other side, you know, 1030 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,120 Coach D and Coach Calhoun, you know, 1031 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,720 they used to battle on the sidelines, you know, 1032 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,800 the big guys mess up, Coach Yel at Coach D. 1033 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,000 Then if the guards mess up, Coach D yell right back at Coach, 1034 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,680 like, hey, look at these fucking guards, 1035 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,680 look what they're doing. 1036 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,480 So I gotta jump in. 1037 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,120 So I was a central practice when he was the head coach there. 1038 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,560 And it was early in the year 1039 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,520 and they had garbage cans on the floor. 1040 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,480 And I remember asking one of the managers, 1041 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,840 I'm like, what, like what's the- 1042 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,680 Throw up in? 1043 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,520 Yeah, what was the- 1044 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,360 Throw up? 1045 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,200 Yeah. 1046 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,280 The guys would literally stop and they would vomit 1047 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,880 and he would just start yelling at him to get going again. 1048 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,920 It was, I've never seen anything like it. 1049 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,760 It was awesome. 1050 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,680 Can you do that now? 1051 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,880 He took that pace with Coach Calhoun. 1052 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,000 Every first practice, we had maybe 10 guys throwing up 1053 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,840 and one guy for, I'll tell you what, 1054 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,640 this guy for, he actually played for him one year. 1055 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,400 And he went to the hospital, first day of practice. 1056 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,840 The next year, another young guy, 1057 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,640 Amber Lance is waiting right outside 1058 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,640 because we know what type of practice it is. 1059 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,400 The first day of practice is the worst practice. 1060 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,760 We don't even touch a ball for three hours. 1061 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,720 Jeez. 1062 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,600 It's just running for three hours. 1063 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,240 And every practice is three hours, so you know. 1064 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,280 But this, the first day of practice, 1065 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,600 we don't even practice in gamble. 1066 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,840 We practice in the hot ass still house 1067 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,360 where it's 150 degrees. 1068 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,120 You didn't practice in gamble back then? 1069 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,160 Not the first day. 1070 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,320 Nope. 1071 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,160 That's a regular that Coach Calhoun had forever. 1072 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,760 How about the preseason run? 1073 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,040 We don't even get uniform. 1074 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,320 We don't even get practice gear until after we prove 1075 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,240 that we're worthy of the gear. 1076 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,360 And that's probably day three. 1077 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,520 Wow. 1078 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,120 Yeah, so, Roch, that leads me into my question actually 1079 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,320 after a prolific career in high school 1080 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,440 and being able to do the things that you can do 1081 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,160 and basically be unstoppable at that level. 1082 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,720 What was the biggest difference when you got to UConn 1083 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,000 in October and started formally practice? 1084 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,400 And was it just the athleticism, the strength, the speed? 1085 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,240 Can you talk a little bit about your early impressions 1086 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:18,240 as a freshman going against those competitive bodies 1087 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,160 in practice? 1088 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,120 It was awesome. 1089 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,960 I had the opportunity to come up in the summertime 1090 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,600 before the season even started of my freshman year. 1091 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,480 So I graduated high school in June. 1092 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,520 I was on campus two weeks later. 1093 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,880 So I literally had an opportunity 1094 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,680 to get my feet wet early, playing against Ray, Derone, 1095 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,120 every day, Rudy Johnson, just playing against those guys 1096 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,960 every day, every day, prepared me for once the season started. 1097 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,560 They put us on a very good weightlifting program, 1098 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,200 cardio program. 1099 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,240 So by the time the season started, 1100 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,520 I was like a well-oiled machine. 1101 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,800 And I came in pretty much, how can I say? 1102 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,040 Everybody said that I was diesel. 1103 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,160 So they was like, man, were you lifting weights 1104 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:12,840 in high school? 1105 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,840 I'm like, no, I didn't lift weights at all. 1106 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,520 So I kind of came in, body already ready to go. 1107 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,080 But just those games in the field house, because we 1108 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,680 couldn't play in gamble early, just 1109 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,000 those games in the field house. 1110 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,120 Kevin Olly came back. 1111 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,560 Danielle will come back. 1112 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,560 Donnie Marshall will come back. 1113 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,400 Man, just a lot of the older players 1114 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,520 came back in the field house. 1115 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,320 And those games were epic games. 1116 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,760 I tell you, I had probably some of my hardest games 1117 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,320 in the field house playing against those guys. 1118 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,480 And like I said, it just prepared myself as there, 1119 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,280 Ricky Moore was there. 1120 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,080 And we had another guy, Sam Punches, 1121 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,360 who ended up transferring out. 1122 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,440 But we were the three freshmen up there getting off 1123 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,440 feet wet and just giving it our all. 1124 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,120 Obviously, you're coming out of high school playing 1125 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,400 against other sophomores, juniors, and seniors. 1126 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,080 And you already know they have the weight over you. 1127 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,240 They've been in this training program with coach 1128 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,600 for the last three years. 1129 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,520 So it just comes down to more of a desire at that point, 1130 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,480 who wanted more? 1131 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,800 And that's pretty much how Coach Calhoun 1132 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:35,360 pretty much looked at you and how he gauged you, like, OK, 1133 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,800 how hard do you go? 1134 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,600 And that's pretty much how guys earned a playing time 1135 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,880 in practice. 1136 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,240 Rash, I got to ask you this. 1137 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,960 Turned into one of the greatest shooters in NBA History Hall, 1138 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,400 a famous Ray Allen. 1139 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,040 In his Yukon days, he was an athlete that was, to me, 1140 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,440 like kind of Jordan-esque with the way he was in the air 1141 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,680 and stuff like that. 1142 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,440 What's it like as a high school freshman two weeks later, 1143 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,640 Gardin and Ray? 1144 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,840 And when did you know that he was just straight up different? 1145 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,080 I got an opportunity to work at his camp a couple of years. 1146 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,160 And they said the pros hardly ever show up. 1147 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,760 And they come up and sign stuff. 1148 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,720 And then they leave. 1149 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:15,280 He was there from like six in the morning, which 1150 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,400 was three hours before the camp, two hours after having 1151 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,000 bought lunch for the whole staff. 1152 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,800 And then when we saw him actually shoot the ball, 1153 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,400 I could not believe what I was watching. 1154 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,760 It was like a robot. 1155 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,200 And he's designed like that. 1156 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,880 That's a Ray Allen for you. 1157 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,920 I tell you, my first wake-up call, I should say, 1158 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,120 in the field house coming down. 1159 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,600 And I guarded Ray my whole entire freshman year 1160 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,480 from what I got there in the summertime in June to the end 1161 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,800 of the season. 1162 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,080 So when Ray went on to the NBA, I guarded him every day. 1163 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:56,520 And I mean, just his shot making ability is out of this world. 1164 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,840 And like you said, he was athletic as hell 1165 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,760 when he was in college. 1166 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,840 Coming down, you think he's about to lay it out, 1167 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,760 but he's two-hand dunking it. 1168 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,560 You think you got the shot blocked, 1169 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,160 but he just goes up another level shooting over you, 1170 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,360 or you might have him. 1171 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,600 Then he may pull what he did in the Big East Championship 1172 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,000 game against Georgetown, turn the ball different ways, 1173 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,320 turn his body. 1174 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,520 Like I said, he was Jordaness most definitely. 1175 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,000 Rush, not a trouble. 1176 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,160 Not a trouble. 1177 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,880 Definitely not. 1178 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,800 And I've seen that firsthand, my first time on campus. 1179 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,120 And I'm pretty sure he had it in his mind, like, OK, 1180 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,120 this is the guy they talking about that's coming in. 1181 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,640 Let me show him what I'm about. 1182 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,080 So he came at me. 1183 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,640 There was no holding back, came at me hard. 1184 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,760 I had to learn how to get my shot off. 1185 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,240 I had to learn how to, against a guy like Ray, 1186 00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,800 you've got to learn how to get your shot off 1187 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,840 in multiple ways. 1188 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,680 So yeah, he definitely prepared me and got me ready. 1189 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,520 I went to UConn because of Ray, just to be honest. 1190 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,280 Unbelievable. 1191 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,400 Obviously, you remember, but that Georgetown game, 1192 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,360 a couple of things stand out. 1193 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,760 There was a two-minute stretch to maybe start the game, 1194 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,880 where it just went back and forth and back and forth. 1195 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,360 And Rudy got a big dunk, and they called time out. 1196 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,360 And Calhoun was saying, calm down, calm down, 1197 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,800 because all you guys are jumping around ready for war. 1198 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,360 And then another time in that game, 1199 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,640 Iverson fouled Ray on a 16-foot pull-up. 1200 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,960 And he couldn't believe that that ball went in. 1201 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,920 And it was like an an one from 16 feet. 1202 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,920 You remember those plays? 1203 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,000 I remember it like it was yesterday. 1204 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,080 And the best thing about that after the game, 1205 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,560 Boys to Men, the R&B singing group, 1206 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,600 they came to the game for Ray. 1207 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,560 So after that game, we're in the W Hotel. 1208 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,840 I'm hanging with Boys to Men. 1209 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,640 That was one of the best days of my life. 1210 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,720 You thought we won the passion championship. 1211 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,240 Hey, I got an obscure question from that game. 1212 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:59,440 When Ray started high-stepping away from the final seconds 1213 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,200 there, what's his name? 1214 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,360 The junkyard dog, Mr. L. Williams. 1215 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,720 He started trucking toward the bench. 1216 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:10,680 And some staff member, a female, got in the way. 1217 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,960 Are you aware of this? 1218 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,080 He trucked like that. 1219 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,440 Her name was Jennifer, like, Percicco or something. 1220 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,600 I remember, because they showed her. 1221 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,880 Because she was Mary. 1222 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,040 I think Mary was the best charge I've ever seen in my life, 1223 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,540 dude. 1224 00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:23,400 He mowed her down. 1225 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,600 Were you aware of that? 1226 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,760 No, I wasn't aware that she got trucked. 1227 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,440 Oh, you had to watch that replay. 1228 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,480 That was crazy. 1229 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,040 I got to watch that. 1230 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,880 I was on the bench at that moment. 1231 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,640 And I definitely didn't see that. 1232 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,720 I'm watching a slow motion a million times. 1233 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,280 And let me tell you something. 1234 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,640 She wears it pretty good. 1235 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,440 She was there. 1236 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,200 Yeah, she was there. 1237 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:55,640 I tell you what, our managers were used to the combat. 1238 00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,680 Trust me, Coach Calhoun, he throws those managers in the fire. 1239 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,640 When I tell you in the fire, if a guy walks into the gym 1240 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:06,960 and there's no other players around, 1241 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,760 you better believe those managers are there being a dummy, 1242 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,720 getting hit, whatever the case may be. 1243 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,480 So she was used to that. 1244 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,160 Hey, to end that season, UCLA, UConn, 1245 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,320 was that the right year? 1246 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,600 Or was that the year before? 1247 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,400 No, that was a year before. 1248 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,320 That was 94 season. 1249 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,960 You weren't there yet then? 1250 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,600 No, I didn't. 1251 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,000 No, that was my senior year. 1252 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,200 When they lost to T.V. Hall, when they lost to the O'Bannon brothers. 1253 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,440 Yes, that was one of the best games ever played, if you ask me. 1254 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,320 Yeah, you guys, unfortunately, lost to Mississippi State. 1255 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,320 I think you were like 32 and 3 going into that game. 1256 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,360 Oh, Dampeer and Dante Jones. 1257 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,520 Yeah, I can talk to you. 1258 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,840 That was Ray's last game. 1259 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,720 And you guys just couldn't shoot that night. 1260 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,440 I think you scored 55 points. 1261 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,760 But the Mississippi State was tough. 1262 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,520 Rick, you got hurt. 1263 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,360 Yep, you got hurt. 1264 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,360 That's right. 1265 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,360 Rick, you got hurt. 1266 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,920 He dislocated his shoulder in the first half. 1267 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,360 And he was playing well. 1268 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,160 He was pushing the ball for us. 1269 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,520 But I got to give Dante Jones a lot of credit. 1270 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,200 He did a phenomenal job on Ray. 1271 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,040 And to be honest, I think that's how he got drafted after that performance. 1272 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,320 Yeah, by the next after that performance. 1273 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,120 So and then you got big boy, Eric Dampeer down there, 1274 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,880 who had a nice solid NBA career. 1275 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,400 They were big. 1276 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:30,520 Their front line was, you know, Eric Dampeer, 7-1, I think they had another 6-10 big down 1277 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,000 there and they were some big boys. 1278 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,040 So, you know, they called us that night. 1279 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:42,760 Rush, going into your sophomore year, Jake Voskos on campus now and Rip and Freeman. 1280 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,720 And again, you and Ricky Moore in the back court. 1281 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:52,200 Did you guys sense or the coaching staff sense that you guys were building the foundation 1282 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,120 to something that was going to be pretty special two years away? 1283 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,120 Most definitely. 1284 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:03,240 Coach been talking about, you know, I can't tell you what he was talking about with, you 1285 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:07,920 know, Kevin Olly the year prior to me and Ricky getting there. 1286 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,200 But when we got there, coach was talking championship national title, national championship 1287 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,800 when we walked through the door. 1288 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:19,080 So that has been a dream of Ricky and mine from our freshman year. 1289 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,640 And we worked towards that. 1290 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:22,640 Go ahead. 1291 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,640 I'm sorry. 1292 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:30,080 I remember being at that Kansas game at the Civic Center your sophomore year when Kirk 1293 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,440 King and Ricky couldn't play. 1294 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,920 And you were, and I'm telling you, not just because you're on, you were the best player 1295 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,480 on the floor that day. 1296 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,980 And they had Rafe LeFrens and Paul Pearson and others. 1297 00:50:40,980 --> 00:50:44,080 And you guys took them down to the wire very short-handed. 1298 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,320 You had 21-22 points. 1299 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,120 I remember the electricity in that arena. 1300 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,120 It was awesome. 1301 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,040 I remember a lot of stuff about that game. 1302 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,040 Oh yeah. 1303 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,040 Oh yeah. 1304 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,040 I remember that game. 1305 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,200 You know, one thing about me, when it comes to my playing days, I kind of remember all 1306 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,120 my games and that game was a hell of a game. 1307 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,480 You know, once again, you got Kansas coming in, you know, we're a young team. 1308 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,360 They were more of a veteran team. 1309 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,960 And we went out and played out butts off, you know, we went out there and played out 1310 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,960 butts off down to about big, you know, Kirk King and Ricky Moore. 1311 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,400 We have them too. 1312 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,720 Who knows how the outcome of that game, you know? 1313 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:27,800 So we were down two big players and we, like you said, we took them to the wire. 1314 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,960 You know, we just, you kind of way, we don't care who we playing. 1315 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,480 We don't look at the names on the other side. 1316 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,240 We just go out and play our game. 1317 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:37,920 And that's exactly what we did. 1318 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,200 And Ross, you were leading the team and scoring that hurt, right? 1319 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,760 And then you got hurt the end of the year. 1320 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,760 That's correct. 1321 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,760 Yeah. 1322 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,760 I got hurt. 1323 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,760 Yeah. 1324 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,760 I got hurt in the Seakin Hall game. 1325 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,760 I pretty much fractured my knee. 1326 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,760 Wow. 1327 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,760 And what's that like? 1328 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,000 I mean, you're playing the top of your game and then that happens. 1329 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,040 How did you kind of deal with that? 1330 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,480 Oh, that's tough. 1331 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:03,160 That's tough because, you know, being on a program like Yukon, you know, you just look 1332 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:09,280 at our bench, you know, we had starting five and we had another seven on a bench that could 1333 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,800 potentially start. 1334 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,920 So you go down with an injury. 1335 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:18,400 Now, you know, other guys' numbers are being called and God forbid they start playing well 1336 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,000 because now you've got to get yourself back into that rotation. 1337 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,520 And that kind of exactly what happened when I went down. 1338 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,080 Rip just, he took over pretty much. 1339 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,440 Rip took over, which he had to do. 1340 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,040 And he did a phenomenal job at that, you know, from that point on. 1341 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,800 And, you know, like I say, when you get hurt and you got, you know, hungry wolves on the 1342 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,360 sidelines just waiting for their turn and then when they actually get their turn, they're 1343 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,960 not trying to give that up, you know. 1344 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,000 So, um, and that's the thing about coach, he's a fair guy, you know, it's like, okay, 1345 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,400 be ready to when your number get called, you better be ready. 1346 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,640 And you know, and that's one thing I've learned from him just staying ready, being ready. 1347 00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,920 So it was definitely tough. 1348 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:00,920 It was definitely tough. 1349 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:07,320 It takes a lot out of you because now, you know, your whole day is pretty much just been 1350 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,320 five times a day. 1351 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,160 You stayed living in a training room. 1352 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,160 So it was tough. 1353 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:17,000 Hey, Roch, what's the biggest difference between the Yukon teams of the last year or 1354 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,400 two and the teams when you played and then who would win? 1355 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,800 Who would win a game with no referees? 1356 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,800 Which team this year? 1357 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:33,480 My team, um, this year's team, you know what, I'm not even going to be biased. 1358 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,200 I'm not going to be biased. 1359 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:41,000 You know, um, I think our 99 team would, would, would do a number on this year's team. 1360 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,600 That's what I'm talking about. 1361 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,560 And I'm like, you know, once again, I, I, I love what Dan, uh, or coach early done this 1362 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,760 year and a lot of people have to remember who they have on that sideline with them. 1363 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,040 Coach Tom Moore, he's one of the top assistants on that team and he was our coach when we 1364 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,040 wanted. 1365 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,880 So that's a Jim Calhoun person that Dan Hurley has on his bench. 1366 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,440 Um, but you know, if you want to line them up. 1367 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,340 I think Jake, not even, I think I know Jake Boswell would definitely do a number on 1368 00:54:08,340 --> 00:54:09,340 Clinton again. 1369 00:54:09,340 --> 00:54:16,280 Um, and our, you know, our guards, you know, we beat up tremendous, not saying this, this 1370 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,280 team didn't beat up, but we beat up, you know, um, we took defense. 1371 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,400 I mean, we took it serious, you know, if you get beat like, you know, this is one of coach 1372 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,400 Calhoun's things. 1373 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,480 If you get beat off one dribble and that horn goes off, you know, it's for you. 1374 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,800 You're coming out the game. 1375 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,760 So so that's a whole different animal right there to, you know, you're going in the game 1376 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,320 saying chest, don't get beat, don't get beat. 1377 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,720 And you know, and with that mind frame, you know, it turned us into animals pretty much. 1378 00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:52,360 Um, you know, so I just think overall we had a little bit more depth in them. 1379 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,560 And like I said, we had literally 12 guys that can come in and put up some numbers. 1380 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,920 Um, rash. 1381 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:00,920 So awesome. 1382 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,560 I wish we could get to see these types of matchups that we dream of. 1383 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,200 All big East tournament you made. 1384 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,200 What year was that? 1385 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,200 Junior year. 1386 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,200 Junior year. 1387 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,200 That was my junior year. 1388 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,200 Yep. 1389 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,280 How special was that being at the garden and you being a New Yorker? 1390 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,200 And did you have, you know, friends and family there? 1391 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,840 Oh, most definitely. 1392 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:20,840 Oh, more. 1393 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,000 I borrowed a few tickets from a couple of players to get all my people in. 1394 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,560 Um, I just wanted to go out. 1395 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,760 Um, just go out and have a good showing. 1396 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,440 You know, it was my junior year. 1397 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,920 I said, you know, just, I don't go on to games saying I got to score this or grab this many 1398 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,360 rebounds and get this many stills. 1399 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,600 My mind frame going into every game is just go out here. 1400 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,800 Don't try to do things I normally don't do. 1401 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,720 Just stick with them myself and I'll be okay. 1402 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:51,840 And that was my mind frame going into that tournament. 1403 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:57,200 Rush that that all tournament selection must have been really gratifying for you because 1404 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,480 your junior year, I remember your, your role changed a little bit. 1405 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,680 You're, but you were the ultimate team guy. 1406 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:04,680 A lot. 1407 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,680 Yeah. 1408 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,680 You were the ultimate team guy. 1409 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,600 They brought, they brought some, you know, different guys in. 1410 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,240 How did you handle that? 1411 00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:13,120 Uh, that adversity? 1412 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,280 Um, how are those conversations with coach Calhoun? 1413 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,880 If you, if you did have any, uh, can you talk a little bit about that? 1414 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,880 Yeah. 1415 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,040 Well, you know, that was a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, a real, 1416 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,640 real, real trouble in time. 1417 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,200 Uh, especially my junior year. 1418 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,040 Um, you know, to be honest, still wasn't a hundred percent with the knee yet. 1419 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:41,600 Uh, so I kind of knew, you know, coming into that season, I'm going to be coming off the 1420 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,360 bench just how we finished that year. 1421 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,680 Um, prior I said, okay. 1422 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,880 Um, but you know, worked hard. 1423 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,320 Um, you know, I'm a junior now. 1424 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,520 And the, the, the, the lovely thing about the whole thing is that we are all brothers 1425 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,520 on that team. 1426 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,680 Um, we all, I mean, genuinely loved each other. 1427 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,000 We all hung out. 1428 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:08,120 I mean, if you probably, you probably seen us in the buckling malls, all 16 of us, you 1429 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,080 know, with, with Yukon's sweats and hoodies on. 1430 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,240 So, you know, we went to the movies together. 1431 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:19,800 So if it wasn't for those guys, I think probably I would have transferred to be honest with 1432 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:20,800 you. 1433 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,800 Wow. 1434 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,800 It was my guys. 1435 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:31,720 That, um, kept me level headed, kept me, um, kept my eyes on the prize and kept me focused. 1436 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:38,200 You know, I'm talking Rick Hamilton, Khaled Alameen, Ricky Moore, all of them, Bo Archibald. 1437 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,440 You name it, Alvin morning. 1438 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,160 You name it, Jake Bosco. 1439 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,880 They all gave me words of encouragement. 1440 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:50,920 You know, this day, the next day, that game, you know, Ross just keep going. 1441 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,640 You know how coach is, you know. 1442 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,000 Um, like I said, my guys is what kept me going. 1443 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:02,240 That's quite a testament to, to those teammates, uh, rush because in today's landscape with 1444 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:07,760 NCA, what you went through that year, most guys would have definitely just gone into 1445 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,760 the port. 1446 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,960 Most of all guys would have gone into the portal and said, see you later. 1447 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,760 But the university, the coaching staff and your teammates meant that much to you. 1448 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,480 Um, and that's just an awesome story to hear about the way that you talk about your teammates. 1449 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,200 Adversity equals portal. 1450 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:32,000 You know, and those guys, those guys, um, you know, I contemplated transferring, but 1451 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,080 my guys wasn't having it. 1452 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,800 You know, um, I'm very like extra, extra close. 1453 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,760 Ricky Moore and I, we talked to this day, Khaled Alameen and I talked to this day. 1454 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:47,840 I talked to all of the guys, but Ricky Moore, Khaled Alameen, those two, especially, um, 1455 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,680 you know, I can remember days out the practice. 1456 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,720 They come to my room sitting on a bed like, man, what's wrong with you? 1457 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,560 You know, um, stop looking sad or, you know, like I said, just talking to me like a real 1458 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,240 brother, um, you know, Raj, we need you. 1459 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,840 We can't do this without you. 1460 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,840 Blah, blah, blah. 1461 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,080 So, you know, hearing that from my guys just made it easier. 1462 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,080 It made it easier. 1463 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,760 You know, I wanted to ask you about Khaled, um, when he steps foot on campus, do you guys 1464 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:16,960 know what you're getting in him? 1465 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,400 Cause he's, he's a rare, rare player. 1466 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:25,760 And then, uh, two things, the Pittsburgh game, the Pittsburgh game, and then being in 1467 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,320 the tunnel when he, when he, not, not when he said he was going to shock the world, but 1468 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,840 like when you guys did that little, I don't know, some sort of, it was like DMX. 1469 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,840 Yeah. 1470 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,840 That was, that's awesome. 1471 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,360 I could watch that forever. 1472 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:37,360 Yeah. 1473 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:45,880 I started that, you know, DMX, DMX is right next door in Yonkers from Mount Vernon. 1474 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,160 So, um, I knew DMX God bless the soul. 1475 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:57,240 Um, so I started that chant, um, you know, probably midway, midway through the season, 1476 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,520 I started that chant our senior year. 1477 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,520 That's awesome. 1478 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,640 And like with Khaled, I knew, like I knew of Khaled, cause um, Khaled had played with 1479 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:12,160 a, um, Long Island Panthers as a team out of Long Island, um, coached by Gary Charles. 1480 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:17,600 Um, a lot of, he coached like Zenden Hamilton, who played at St. John's, who went to, to 1481 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,600 the 76ers. 1482 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,600 Yeah. 1483 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:20,600 The lefty. 1484 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:21,600 Yeah. 1485 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,000 The lefty, Ed Brown, who played at Rhode Island under, uh, Coach Hurley, when Coach Hurley 1486 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,000 was at Rhode Island. 1487 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,000 Oh, get out. 1488 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,720 Um, so Khaled, Khaled played for the Gary Charles team living in Minnesota. 1489 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,600 Kay was flying to New York and playing on. 1490 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,600 So I knew Kay coming into high school. 1491 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,840 Um, you know, when Kay was still in high school, so when we got him, I was like, oh, yes, this 1492 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,360 is what we need. 1493 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,000 So what was it like when you first stepped on campus? 1494 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,000 I've heard stories about him kind of run the show right away. 1495 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:54,120 Um, well, I want to say running the show right away. 1496 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,680 Um, he was just a vocal, um, a vocal guy. 1497 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,960 I mean, when I say vocal, that's, that's who he is. 1498 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,960 He's a loud guy. 1499 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:02,960 He's a jokester. 1500 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,960 Uh, he was, he was, he was confident. 1501 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,960 He was a McDonald's. 1502 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:11,960 He was a McDonald's all American, you know? 1503 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:19,480 Um, and truth be told, he was kind of, he was kind of like the focal point of our offense 1504 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,480 when he got there. 1505 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,200 Um, you know, a lot of people say rip was the focal point, but if you look at other 1506 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,880 team, Scott and reports, they were trying to stop Kay more than rip. 1507 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,080 So, um, you know, like we knew what he can do. 1508 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:38,080 He was, you know, he was a diamond in the rough, you know, in first day on campus, you 1509 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,280 know, going into that field house in the summertime. 1510 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,120 Like you already knew what he can do. 1511 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,160 Like I said, I knew him, seen him play numerous times. 1512 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,720 I'm just like, yes, you know, we need a guy like this in the fold. 1513 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,520 Um, this is so awesome. 1514 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,880 They were, you talk about these guys, man, because that's, you know, that's when we first 1515 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,600 got it across the goal line and that team was special. 1516 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:01,040 But like, I want to tell you about, I heard Ron Arthes talking about who the two toughest, 1517 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,520 uh, the two toughest guards he had as assignments, you know what I mean? 1518 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,680 Guys he had to guard and he said, Kobe and rip. 1519 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:13,520 He said when he guarded Kobe or rip, especially rip, because he had to run all over the place 1520 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:14,520 all night long. 1521 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,080 He said he would sit in a shower without talking to his teammates for a long time after that 1522 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,360 game because he got a hell of a workout. 1523 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,640 Oh, that was our offense. 1524 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:28,960 Um, now was he talking about rip NBA rip or was he talking about college rip pistons? 1525 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:35,440 Oh, well, I mean, look at their offense, you know, rip was running off three, four screens 1526 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,040 and then if he didn't get the ball, he would reverse and run back to the other side of 1527 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,800 the floor and now that, and he's not going to get tired. 1528 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,320 So another defender, oh my God, you're going to get tired. 1529 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,800 Don't chasing a guy like that. 1530 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,480 And then once he catches it and if you're right on him and he's just shooting jumpers 1531 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,000 in your face all night, that takes a lot of you. 1532 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,000 Oh, all right. 1533 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,760 So let's get to the good stuff. 1534 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,120 Let's talk about 99 going into the season. 1535 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,880 What do you expect and how did it play out? 1536 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,400 Oh, going into the season, we all expected what happened at the end of the season. 1537 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,800 We're in the national title and that's all we talked about after we lost to North Carolina 1538 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,400 junior year, my junior year in the final eight. 1539 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,720 It was, uh, yeah, that was the final eight. 1540 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:24,440 We lost to North Carolina, Vince Carter and them and, um, and that locker room, you know, 1541 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,640 and who was that? 1542 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,680 That was, um, I think that was in Greensboro. 1543 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,120 It was somewhere in North Carolina. 1544 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:33,160 That game was a home home game for them. 1545 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,600 So we went to locker room right there, coach said, I just want you guys to know next year 1546 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,720 we're going to win this championship. 1547 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:46,080 So I think that coach kind of, once we played Carolina and he saw like, you know what, we're 1548 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,880 just as good as Carolina. 1549 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,920 Um, so we got the locker room. 1550 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,120 He said, look, guys, we're going to win this next year. 1551 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,480 You know, did we believe that? 1552 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,840 Um, probably not at that particular moment. 1553 01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,120 You know, we just lost the game, but he was saying that he said that after the game, he 1554 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,800 said that we lost to Carolina. 1555 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,280 In the locker room, he said, we're going to win the championship next year. 1556 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,280 It's one thing to do. 1557 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,240 It's no thing to say it and then do it. 1558 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,240 He said it. 1559 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,240 Yep. 1560 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,240 He, and this is, let me just put it in perspective who coach Calhoun is. 1561 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:21,320 Um, the NBA lockout, 97, 96, 97. 1562 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:29,800 Our practice for that whole entire lockout was against Ray Allen, um, Kevin Olly, Donnie 1563 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:36,960 Marshall, Danielle Marshall, um, who else came out of a Macklin who wasn't out of a 1564 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,600 Macklin who wasn't in the NBA. 1565 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,440 He was a walk on with you, Conn, but he came. 1566 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,400 Um, Scott came a few times. 1567 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,320 Scott did come a few times. 1568 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:52,160 Um, but mainly it was like Ray and those guys, Kevin Olly, and that was our practice 1569 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,160 for that whole NBA lockout. 1570 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:59,760 Like we coach, it'll be five against their five and coach would say to us every time 1571 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,920 we went out there, he says, I expect you guys to beat the shit out of them. 1572 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:11,240 And we're looking like, we're like, damn, coach, they got Ray over there. 1573 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,240 They got Kevin Olly, Danielle. 1574 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,760 And he was like, I don't give a fuck who they got over there. 1575 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,080 We should run them out the building. 1576 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,880 And I tell you, they, if you know, these NBA guys, they need a jump shot. 1577 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,880 He's on the court. 1578 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,760 Like how you let him hit that jump shot? 1579 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,480 I'm like, coach is Ray Island. 1580 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,600 Like Jesus, you know, so, um, but that was our practice. 1581 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,160 And, and the coach didn't care who we lined up against. 1582 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,040 And he said it against those guys. 1583 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:45,120 He, whoever we line up against, he, he has so much confidence that we're going to win 1584 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,120 that game. 1585 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,480 You know, the way, the way, I'm sorry, but the way he made his players believe is crazy 1586 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,880 with what you just described, like we're going to win it next year. 1587 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,880 And you did. 1588 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,080 Do you remember, I'm sure you're familiar with the Tate George shot? 1589 01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,080 Of course. 1590 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,320 So we know a few people that were in that huddle and he said, yeah, we're going to, 1591 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,320 we're going to make this. 1592 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,320 Don't worry about it. 1593 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,520 And like guys were like, okay, you know, and they made it. 1594 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,520 You know what I mean? 1595 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,840 It's one, again, it's one thing to do, to do it, but to say you're going to do it and 1596 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,840 do it, that's big balls. 1597 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,520 And that's coach and, and that's coach right there. 1598 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:26,400 Coach, um, I tell you, he has just so much confidence because number one, the preparation 1599 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,480 that, uh, how we prepare is, is a one. 1600 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:35,800 I mean, you know, I got buddies all over the nation at all different universities. 1601 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,600 And I used to ask them, like, how do you guys practice? 1602 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,680 Some guys would tell me shit, we don't even practice. 1603 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,400 We just going there and shoot free throws for an hour and a half. 1604 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,160 And we're going, other guys telling me, well, yeah, we practice hard, but it's only four 1605 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,440 hour. 1606 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,400 And I come out and be like, y'all guys is lucky. 1607 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,400 We go three hours hard. 1608 01:06:53,400 --> 01:07:01,400 And I'm talking about after practices, guys, you know, put it this way, Ray gave me seven 1609 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,520 stitches inside my mouth, guarded him one day in practice. 1610 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:12,680 Um, you know, I don't see multiple guys get knocked out in practice unconscious, uh, you 1611 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,200 know, multiple fights. 1612 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,680 Um, and just how we run, like how we ran in the game. 1613 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,000 That's what we did in practice. 1614 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:25,360 We, uh, team, you know, a guy score, we're taking the ball out as fast as we can and 1615 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,600 getting down the floor as fast as we can. 1616 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,640 So I got to ask you this. 1617 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,320 I heard this through the grapevine. 1618 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,680 I kind of like, I used to coach high school teams. 1619 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:40,240 So I kind of stole it from, from coach Calhoun a day of a game. 1620 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,640 Most teams have shooter rounds. 1621 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,400 I heard Yukon and Jim Calhoun had practice. 1622 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,400 Is that true or no? 1623 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,000 No, no, no, that's not true. 1624 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,000 All right. 1625 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,000 I apologize to all my high school teams then. 1626 01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:00,920 Yeah, but, but, but like, uh, the day of a game, um, we just have a light shoot around. 1627 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:06,040 You know, we, especially if it's a, uh, a way game or something, we're up early. 1628 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:13,360 We go to that gym and we, uh, you know, we, we shoot, we shoot and you know, we're not 1629 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,360 running around at all. 1630 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,880 We're just shooting and shooting. 1631 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,920 That's just, that's just like, yeah, it's no practice. 1632 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,080 We don't practice at all, especially the day of a game. 1633 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,400 Now he want to keep us, um, fresh as possible. 1634 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,440 Like we're up early, believe it or not. 1635 01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:32,640 We, we're in gyms at seven and a.m. on game days. 1636 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:33,640 Wow. 1637 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:34,640 All right. 1638 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,720 Um, yeah, we're in the gym at seven a.m. on game days. 1639 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,800 We don't even eat breakfast first on game days. 1640 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:41,800 We just go in there. 1641 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:47,960 We shoot around and we eat after I want to fast forward a little bit, Ross, to the, to 1642 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:53,320 that final four, you beat schoonie pen and a highell state, uh, and going into that game 1643 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:54,680 against Duke. 1644 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,520 If my memory serves, you guys might have been nine or 10 point underdogs. 1645 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:05,160 Um, motivational factor, um, at all, or it was just, you know, just get ready to play 1646 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,240 regardless of what the public thought and tell us a little bit about the preparation 1647 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,240 for Duke. 1648 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,240 You hate Duke. 1649 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,720 I'm going to tell you guys the only motivation. 1650 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,480 Well, it was two motivations. 1651 01:09:17,480 --> 01:09:20,160 Number one, obviously being in the national title game. 1652 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,520 So if you can't get up for that game, something's wrong with you. 1653 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:28,240 Number two, the night before the game, um, we just had our chalk chalk. 1654 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,760 Um, we, you know, just broke down the game. 1655 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,440 So coaches like, and we're actually Ricky and I, we know we were the captain. 1656 01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:37,200 So we're actually in our room. 1657 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,160 The whole team is in our room. 1658 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,880 So coaching them is like, all right, guys, talk, talk, sober. 1659 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:46,440 I want you guys in bed by 10, you know, we'll be up early, blah, blah, blah. 1660 01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:47,440 He leaves. 1661 01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:52,240 So when the coaches leave, we're still in the room and ESPN came on. 1662 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:59,280 So they flashed to a gas station in Durham, North Carolina, and they were selling Duke 1663 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:04,400 paraphernalia, you know, the Duke gear that says Duke wins the national championship. 1664 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,480 They were selling the gear before the game even played. 1665 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:10,680 Papers stacked up to the wall. 1666 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,400 Duke wins the national title. 1667 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,640 We like, guys, is this real? 1668 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,240 We like, they're disrespecting us like this, that they're actually putting this on ESPN 1669 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,600 that Duke won the title. 1670 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:28,280 So Ricky Moore, he says right then he said, all you guys get the fuck out, get the fuck 1671 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,280 out of the room. 1672 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,280 He's yelling and shit. 1673 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,200 So I'm looking at Rick like, oh shit, he was like, Raj, we got business tomorrow. 1674 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,720 And he kicked everybody out. 1675 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,320 He went to bed early and if you notice Ricky started that. 1676 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,320 No, he was unbelievable. 1677 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,800 He scored, of course, in that championship game. 1678 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,320 He scored, I think the first 13 points with him. 1679 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:47,800 Yeah, he was terrific. 1680 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,800 Right, his bank shots. 1681 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,640 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Ricky was, he was highly upset. 1682 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,640 We all were upset. 1683 01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:01,240 But that was the disrespect that we saw and that was the motivational factor right there, 1684 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:07,800 in that they were selling, you know, newspapers and t-shirts that Duke won the championship 1685 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,800 already. 1686 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,040 Yeah, I do remember they interviewed Latiner before the game and he said Duke was going 1687 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,040 to win it easily. 1688 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,320 But obviously he's a, I got to ask you another question. 1689 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,960 To get to the final four, like we're obviously huge Yukon fans. 1690 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,280 You know, we remember Don Niel missing a couple free throws against Florida. 1691 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:30,480 The, when you guys finally beat Gonzaga to get to the final four was like a huge relief. 1692 01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:34,760 Did you guys feel any pressure to get to a final four with that team? 1693 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,480 No, it wasn't no pressure. 1694 01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:43,200 It was no pressure at all because we never been to a final four. 1695 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,040 So I know you've been so close. 1696 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,160 I was just straight up desire. 1697 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,160 I bet that's all. 1698 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,160 Yeah. 1699 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:54,920 So, you know, it wasn't no pressure for us, you know, it was just nice, you know, your 1700 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:59,280 hair just go out and play your ass off. 1701 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,280 That's pretty much it. 1702 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,440 I don't believe nothing on this floor. 1703 01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:05,840 Just take, you know, just leave it out here on this floor. 1704 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,080 And that was pretty much coaches, his words, leaving out the locker room to start the game. 1705 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,560 Like there's nothing to say. 1706 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,280 This is our last game of the year. 1707 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,280 We're going to lose. 1708 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,280 Leave it on the floor. 1709 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,000 And that's exactly what we did. 1710 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,280 Rash, the game before Gonzaga, I think it was Iowa. 1711 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:21,280 Yeah. 1712 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:28,080 I had never seen a physical bloodbath like that outside of high school where guys can't 1713 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:33,440 score so they just beat each other up sometimes and that was nasty. 1714 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:34,440 And that guy just settled. 1715 01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:36,040 He's now on the Big Ten Network. 1716 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,360 I still want to kick him where the sun don't shine. 1717 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,880 I thought it was dirty. 1718 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:42,880 What a war that was. 1719 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:50,080 But you know, but you know, but Coach Kahul love games like those, you know, those games. 1720 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,280 We call those games. 1721 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,320 What's the word we used to use? 1722 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,760 Let's take care of business type of game. 1723 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,520 We knew we were a better time than them, but it's the tournament, you know, ball wasn't 1724 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,520 going our way that game. 1725 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,040 They were being physical. 1726 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:11,240 And it just, we just had to pretty much stay within ourselves and just continue to keep 1727 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:12,240 wearing them down. 1728 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,480 And that's exactly what we did. 1729 01:13:13,480 --> 01:13:17,920 We just had to keep wearing them down, wearing them down and wearing them down. 1730 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,840 And that's exactly those type of teams. 1731 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,840 When the ball is not falling, you got to really do your work on a defensive end. 1732 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,520 And that's what we took care of that on a defensive end. 1733 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:32,320 So Rosh, again, back to the final game against Duke to, to wrap up that season, uh, when, 1734 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:37,840 you know, laying and dribbling the ball down the floor and Khalid goes over to the, to 1735 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,240 the CBS, uh, booth and says they shocked the world. 1736 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:46,000 The ball ends up in your hands and you can see the emotion on your face immediately as 1737 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:51,640 the camera pans to you and Ella mean, can you, can you, do you, do you remember like 1738 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,200 that five to 10 seconds? 1739 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,200 Was it a blur? 1740 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:55,480 And what was your thought process? 1741 01:13:55,480 --> 01:14:00,320 Like right after you got the ball in your hand and you know, you guys won it off. 1742 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:05,960 You know, I said to myself at that moment, like all of the sacrifice and hard work that 1743 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,640 I put in finally paid off. 1744 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:15,640 Um, you know, my, you know, my junior year flashed in my face, like, man, you know, I 1745 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:21,600 almost left this place, but you know, just, you know, my guys and the love we have for 1746 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:28,280 each other, we, you know, I stuck it out and went harder and look, you know, and that's, 1747 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:35,720 you know, I took a lot of that, you know, um, a lot of the downfalls and, you know, 1748 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:41,040 the hardships and to put it all into that one game is just was a great feeling. 1749 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,720 I actually took the ball and threw the ball in the stand. 1750 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,360 So I don't even have the ball to take home with me. 1751 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,440 So that was, that was my question, man. 1752 01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:51,720 What did I just remember me throwing the, like, what happened to the ball? 1753 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,240 No, did anybody know where it is? 1754 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,520 It's in a trophy case. 1755 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:55,520 I'm sure, right? 1756 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,080 I don't even, I probably threw it in the rafters somewhere. 1757 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,840 That's how hard I flung that ball. 1758 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,160 You weren't that good at baseball. 1759 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,080 So I got it. 1760 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:10,600 So I got to have it or, or, or, you know, the security at traffic, can of failed. 1761 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,160 What's the one up there and got the ball? 1762 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,160 Oh my God. 1763 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,160 I don't know. 1764 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:15,160 I don't have it. 1765 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,760 Listen, so if you know what one shining moment is, obviously, right? 1766 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,120 The very end of it, you go watch it tonight at the end of it. 1767 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,480 You have, Elham mean to scream me at the cameras and you're standing there with the 1768 01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:25,480 ball. 1769 01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:26,480 You got a cup in your right hand. 1770 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:27,480 Yeah. 1771 01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:30,080 You still have it in your hand and you threw it into the stand. 1772 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,080 And then I tossed it. 1773 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,080 Oh my God. 1774 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:42,160 Rash, this, I could do this. 1775 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,000 We could do this for several hours, man. 1776 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,000 You've been terrific. 1777 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,480 You don't want to take too much of your time, but like, look, I want to wrap it up with, 1778 01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:49,480 with one question. 1779 01:15:49,480 --> 01:15:51,480 Then we're going to ask you some quiz questions. 1780 01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:52,480 Yep. 1781 01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:55,480 Remember what I want to share. 1782 01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:57,080 Let me share with this one funny story. 1783 01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,480 I forgot who brought up the Pittsburgh game. 1784 01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:03,560 I forgot who brought up the Pittsburgh game. 1785 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,120 Um, this is actually our senior year. 1786 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,600 We lost to pit down at pit. 1787 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:13,120 It was a Monday night game, ESPN nine o'clock. 1788 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:18,280 So we lose, we lost by, I think four or something to that nature. 1789 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,840 So we're going back, you know, 11 o'clock at night. 1790 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,320 We haven't eaten since the four o'clock pregame meal. 1791 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,120 So you know, after every game on the road, you know, we're flying, you know, a private 1792 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,760 jet with the big husky on the side. 1793 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,360 So our managers, you know, once we get to the airport, our managers, they run off the 1794 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,440 bus and, you know, start getting our food ready on the plane. 1795 01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:43,320 So they did that. 1796 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,800 So this time, you know, coach is usually the last one off the bus. 1797 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,400 This time he was the first one off the bus. 1798 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,000 So we're getting, you know, we're going to the plane, our stomachs are growling. 1799 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,120 We didn't eat since four o'clock. 1800 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,520 Here it is 11. 1801 01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:03,160 So we got these nice sandwiches, juices, cupcakes, everything all set up. 1802 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,920 Coach came by and just swiped all that shit on the floor. 1803 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:07,160 So yeah, we'll eat tonight. 1804 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,160 Yeah, motherfuckers and threw all our food on the floor. 1805 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,640 Oh my God, I love it. 1806 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,360 Old school, you can't do it anymore. 1807 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:18,880 Hey, so Rasha, oh my God, I gotta ask you this, you win the national championship, you 1808 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,380 go back to stores. 1809 01:17:20,380 --> 01:17:21,760 What's the party like? 1810 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:22,760 What's the girls like? 1811 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,760 What's that? 1812 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:24,760 It's gotta be unbelievable. 1813 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:25,760 You had to go right home. 1814 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:26,760 You guys must have been exhausted. 1815 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:35,400 I tell you, after the championship, you know, one of our alumni, I won't even say his name. 1816 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:36,920 I'll have to tell you this. 1817 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:44,560 If I were to see you guys in person, one of our alumni, after we won it, you know, he 1818 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:51,920 had about 10 limousines for us and we went to, you know, a couple of the establishments 1819 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,920 out there, the adult establishments and had the time of our life. 1820 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,040 Yes, sir. 1821 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,360 When we say it's all over, don't hang up, okay? 1822 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,360 Okay. 1823 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:07,520 Was that an electric night for you guys or no? 1824 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,520 Electric, forget about it. 1825 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:15,160 I still dream about that night. 1826 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:21,240 I know Scott Baral just a little bit and I was at an AAU tournament years ago with him 1827 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:27,000 and I asked him for one Calhoun story and the story he gave me is literally, it's off 1828 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,000 the charts. 1829 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,240 I know you gave us a little one. 1830 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:35,520 I can't even repeat it was so graphic but it's hilarious between coaches. 1831 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,440 Is there anything, can you tell us about him and what coach has meant to you? 1832 01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:43,640 Oh man, coach. 1833 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:49,800 You know, I coach with coach 2017 to 2020 at St. Joe's. 1834 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:50,800 Blue Jays? 1835 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,480 Yeah, for the Blue Jays, correct. 1836 01:18:54,480 --> 01:19:00,080 Coach Calhoun is like, you know, he's like Coach Walsh in the sense he's my third father. 1837 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,800 Let me say that. 1838 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,360 I can call coach right now at this very moment. 1839 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,280 He's going to say, where are you at? 1840 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,240 You know, drive to my house. 1841 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:09,320 Come see me or something. 1842 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,720 You know, that's how he is with his players. 1843 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:19,360 You know, he kept in contact with me when I wasn't even playing, playing for him. 1844 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,560 So that lets you know right there who's really who and who's really real. 1845 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:29,360 You know, you see what coaches, you know, become your family and what coaches just wanted 1846 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,400 you because you were a good player. 1847 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:37,560 And coach was a guy who he genuinely cared about you. 1848 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:42,800 You know, if you did what you had to do as a player, you know, just being in a gym, 1849 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:48,240 going to class, doing what you have to do, coach would give you the shirt off his back. 1850 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:55,280 Rash, obviously as a four year player for coach, how cool was it to work with him in 1851 01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,360 the coaching profession? 1852 01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:03,200 And give us a little bit of insight on the different perspective that you had being alongside 1853 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,320 him in the locker room with the scouting or the recruiting and stuff like that. 1854 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,520 How cool was that for you? 1855 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,520 I'll tell you this. 1856 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,360 It doesn't change from being a player to a coach. 1857 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,600 He cusses you out. 1858 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,360 It doesn't matter. 1859 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:23,240 You know, I could just remember, you know, you know, at the D3 level, you know, a lot 1860 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:28,000 of the schools don't have clocks inside the locker room, so you don't know how much time 1861 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,320 you have to get on the floor before the game starts. 1862 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,360 So I had to manually have a clock in my hand. 1863 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:41,040 So I vividly remember, I think we were playing, I think we were playing St. Joe's of Maine. 1864 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,280 They were very good as well. 1865 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,200 And he was like, Rash, how much time left? 1866 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:52,840 I said, coach, it was about five minutes 30, five 30 coach, you got to be upstairs. 1867 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,800 He asked me 30 seconds later, I was like, coach, 515, motherfuckers, five minutes, I 1868 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,800 have to go by already. 1869 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:05,040 I said, coach, no, it was actually 30 seconds ago. 1870 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:11,760 So like I say, you always got to be on your toes, you know, you always got to be ready. 1871 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,360 You know, during the middle of the game, forget about it. 1872 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:19,360 You really have to be in tune because he'll either nowhere, how many times I got left. 1873 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,040 And if you don't know, that's your ass. 1874 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,200 Well, you should know, right? 1875 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,200 You're on his staff, man. 1876 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,200 Let's go. 1877 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:30,360 As the staff, trust me, you will be amazed at how many don't know. 1878 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,280 Well, they shouldn't be on his staff. 1879 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,280 Exactly. 1880 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,560 So, I have so many stories. 1881 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,240 A lot of them are really too X-rated. 1882 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,320 We could go R on this, but not X. 1883 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:46,320 I got stories. 1884 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,080 So, even when I came back from Europe, I coached with coach. 1885 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:55,320 I was a student assistant 2004, 2005, when they had Charlie, Bill and the waiver. 1886 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,320 Oh, no way. 1887 01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:01,600 Josh Boone and those guys, I actually went back to school to finish my degree up during 1888 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:02,600 that time. 1889 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,400 So, I was a student assistant on that team. 1890 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:13,320 The things he said to Josh Boone, Charlie, I used to be like, oh my fucking god. 1891 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,400 Did he say that to these guys? 1892 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,200 I always thought he might have been hard on Rudy. 1893 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,680 No, he wasn't that hard on Rudy, believe it or not. 1894 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:23,920 He wasn't that hard on Rudy. 1895 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,120 I think Rudy had such a high ceiling as a fan. 1896 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,040 It was tough that it didn't seem like he ever got to that ceiling at Yukon, and he's 1897 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,320 had an immense bro career. 1898 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:32,960 I mean, he's still playing, right? 1899 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,920 Oh, yeah, he's still playing. 1900 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:35,920 He's still playing. 1901 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,520 He had a very high ceiling. 1902 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:45,840 He was not new to the game coming to Yukon, but new to the game. 1903 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:52,040 He didn't play at that level before, never played for a coach like Calhoun, and he didn't 1904 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,040 work like that. 1905 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:58,120 That was one of his big things coming in as a freshman, that he had to put more output, 1906 01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,320 go a little bit more harder. 1907 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:06,160 As a youngster, if you're not playing like that already, you got to learn that. 1908 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:10,880 It took him some time to learn that aspect, and it's a great thing that he learned it 1909 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:11,880 in the NBA. 1910 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:12,880 That's why he's still playing. 1911 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:19,040 Hey, as an obviously, he had him for four years as a player, and he coached with him. 1912 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,040 Who got it the worst? 1913 01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:25,200 Give me one or two guys that got it the worst from coach. 1914 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,560 We had a player named Ruzlon, a rushing kid. 1915 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,560 Oh, yeah, yeah, I can. 1916 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,360 Number 10, let's go. 1917 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,200 Ruzlon, he got it the worst. 1918 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,280 I've never seen a player get it like him. 1919 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:38,280 Okay. 1920 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:42,480 Man, that's all I got to say. 1921 01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:43,480 Ruzlon. 1922 01:23:43,480 --> 01:23:46,400 He's still running a coffee shop up there or something. 1923 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:52,480 Yes, him and his wife opened up the coffee shop right in the student center, right across 1924 01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:53,480 the gamble. 1925 01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:58,880 But yeah, Ruzlon was the strongest one on the team. 1926 01:23:58,880 --> 01:23:59,880 I'm going to tell you that now. 1927 01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:06,400 There was nobody, right? 1928 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,400 He bench-pressed like 500. 1929 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,760 I said he was the strongest guy by far. 1930 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,960 And we always had the kid with him be like, are you know the mafia or something? 1931 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:21,200 Always walking around campus with these black mock necks, black T-shirts. 1932 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,200 We thought the same thing. 1933 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:24,200 Gold chains. 1934 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,200 It was like, you got to be in a Russian mob. 1935 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:31,240 I could never learn to play, you know, hope to be like, okay, Ruzlon, I need you right 1936 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,240 here on the press. 1937 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,240 Ruzlon on the other side of the court. 1938 01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,240 And you know, hope to get in here. 1939 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,240 You stupid mother fucker. 1940 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,240 Like that was one of his favorite lines. 1941 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,080 Calling you a stupid MF first. 1942 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,520 Rosh, he got a big breakaway against Nova on a snowstorm night. 1943 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,640 And that's when Dick Vitale started screaming that you couldn't believe how hard these guys 1944 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:51,880 practiced this morning. 1945 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,520 But that was the Kiddles Ray Allen game. 1946 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:54,520 Do you remember this? 1947 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,520 Yeah, I hear him on the radio. 1948 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:57,520 Oh, that was my freshman year. 1949 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,520 Yeah, that was my freshman year. 1950 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,000 That was a big snowstorm too of that year. 1951 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,000 Yeah. 1952 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,000 Do you remember right at night? 1953 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,000 Oh my God. 1954 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,000 Ray and Kiddles going back and forth. 1955 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,800 Oh, Ray was on fire. 1956 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:09,800 Ray was on fire. 1957 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:10,800 I mean, you playing against Kiddles. 1958 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,320 So you got to be up for that game. 1959 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,520 You got to be up for that game. 1960 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,520 Rosh, so I want to... 1961 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,680 They had the shooter, E-Birds, Lawson underneath. 1962 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,480 They had a complete team. 1963 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:24,680 So Alvin Williams played in the NBA? 1964 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,360 Alvin Williams was running the point, who played with the Raptors. 1965 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:29,360 Sixers too, I think. 1966 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,360 No, maybe... 1967 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:31,360 Yeah, yeah. 1968 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,360 Okay. 1969 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,960 So Rosh, so you went it all in 99. 1970 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,360 Could you ever imagine six national titles after that, or five more after that, but 1971 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,360 six total? 1972 01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,360 I could, yeah, I definitely could. 1973 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,000 I love it. 1974 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:50,120 You know, you know, stores is that place where there's nothing up there. 1975 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:51,400 You know, you guys been up there. 1976 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:56,080 There's nothing up in stores but cows, ice cream shop. 1977 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,840 That's very good, by the way. 1978 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,600 You got to drive to Hartford, you know, for a little night action, you know. 1979 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:06,880 So on campus, all you can do is just go to class and play basketball. 1980 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:07,880 That's it. 1981 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:12,240 You know, when you're not in class, all we do is play basketball. 1982 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,280 You know, doing holiday breaks. 1983 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,320 While everybody else is home to Thanksgiving, we're up in campus. 1984 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:23,080 So not on campus, we'd be in the hotels and we're practicing. 1985 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:24,800 Never went home for Thanksgiving. 1986 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,640 Never went home for Christmas. 1987 01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,320 Never went home for spring break in four years. 1988 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,320 Wow. 1989 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:32,320 Man. 1990 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,280 So that's awesome. 1991 01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:41,120 You say you could imagine it, or easily imagine it, because I bet that's how Coach Calhoun 1992 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,440 would want you to think. 1993 01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:44,120 Like, of course you could imagine it. 1994 01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,400 After we got the first one, we're going to win several more. 1995 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:52,320 And I think we cemented, or you guys have cemented the program as a true blue blood. 1996 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:56,400 And remember, Napier standing on the podium saying, that's what you do. 1997 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,760 And this is what Huskies do. 1998 01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:58,760 And you banned us. 1999 01:26:58,760 --> 01:26:59,760 And we're Huskies. 2000 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,760 And that's what we do. 2001 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,000 We come back and we win it. 2002 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:07,600 Like, what does it mean to you to be a Husky and one forever? 2003 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:14,200 A Husky is a player, male or female. 2004 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,880 Who doesn't know what the word quit is? 2005 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,360 That's not a word that we use, quit. 2006 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:26,400 Whether we're up 20, down 20, down one, what have you, kinds get tough. 2007 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:27,400 You don't quit. 2008 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,920 You just tie your sneakers up a little bit tighter and get to stepping and get back to 2009 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,420 work. 2010 01:27:33,420 --> 01:27:36,200 And that's one thing I learned from Coach Calhoun. 2011 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:37,200 That guy's amazing. 2012 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,680 I can honestly tell you that guy's actually amazing. 2013 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,920 You know, just, just, you know, when I was coaching with those guys up there in West 2014 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,720 Hartford, uh, coach, you know, he's driving from Rhode Island, an hour and a half every 2015 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:54,080 day, guys, 80 years old, driving an hour and a half every day for work. 2016 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:55,080 That says a lot right there. 2017 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,840 The guy could be home vacationing, but he wanted to be in that gym. 2018 01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,880 So I learned a lot from him. 2019 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,480 I studied him, especially working with him. 2020 01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:06,600 And like I said, he only enhanced my life that much more. 2021 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,200 Man, that's great, man. 2022 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,040 Hey, we're going to wrap this up. 2023 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:15,400 Um, we're just, we always do this little segment with some, you know, like questions 2024 01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,280 and we're all going to like actually, I don't know if we'll all answer, but we want you 2025 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,280 to answer. 2026 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,360 Now we could all, you know, get in there and give an answer, but, um, angry J coach at 2027 01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:28,040 Eastern Connecticut State University is going to give you a few, um, few questions. 2028 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,480 All right, Ross, they're all it's called who would you rather. 2029 01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:33,280 So you have to pick one of these two guys. 2030 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:34,280 All right. 2031 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:38,920 We didn't make it easy on either since some of them are your former teammates, but you 2032 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:39,920 get juicy. 2033 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:40,920 All right. 2034 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,320 So you get your choice here. 2035 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:49,960 Are you picking and we have one of our producers here is knows Donovan clinging well. 2036 01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:50,960 And, uh, okay. 2037 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:55,680 So you get to choose between Donovan clinging or a Mecca, okay. 2038 01:28:55,680 --> 01:29:00,240 I'm going with bigger Mecca. 2039 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:01,240 I got you. 2040 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:02,240 All right. 2041 01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:03,240 Are you guys picking? 2042 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:04,240 I'll be on here. 2043 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:05,240 I got to go with the charter rope, man. 2044 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:06,640 I mean, come on. 2045 01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:07,640 He's bigger. 2046 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,280 And you know what, a Mecca didn't really pan out. 2047 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,600 I know it was a lot of physical stuff, but like, you know, I don't want to call my boss. 2048 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,920 We love him, but like he didn't really have a great pro career. 2049 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,480 And I, we hope the other guy does. 2050 01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:19,480 Lottie. 2051 01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:23,680 Well, you know, and I'm, when I, I'm just talking as far as college level now, are 2052 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:28,280 we talking who's going to make a better pro or college? 2053 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,760 It's really up to you, whatever you want. 2054 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:31,760 Yeah. 2055 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:37,600 Um, you know, if you want to talk on that line, um, you know, a Mecca was a great 2056 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:43,920 guy, but he was a undersized, you know, big, um, down to them, you know, with the way the 2057 01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:48,680 NBA game has changed dramatically, you know, he's going to have to start dribbling like 2058 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,360 Wimby, you know, he's going to have to develop a jump shot. 2059 01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,240 He's going to have to stretch the floor, hit freeze. 2060 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,720 So right now he doesn't have that in his game. 2061 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:03,760 Um, so hopefully he gets with a team, you know, that can really develop him and really 2062 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,480 develop that shot because you're going to have to shoot the ball now. 2063 01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:08,000 Big guys just don't post up. 2064 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,840 Forget about the post is not existing nowadays. 2065 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,360 So he's going to have to learn how to shoot. 2066 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:17,440 Hey, can I, can I tell you where I think he's a dream guy is the Warriors? 2067 01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:19,880 Cause remember with Durant, they like ran offense. 2068 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,200 You mentioned those guys running around the same screens that you kind of guys did with 2069 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,920 the shooters they got and the athletes they got. 2070 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,040 I think that would be a great scenario because they're always undersized anyway. 2071 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,400 They could use one big guy. 2072 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:31,400 Yeah. 2073 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:32,400 He's not making to that pick. 2074 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:33,400 All right. 2075 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,040 Um, we're trading up Ray Allen, Richard Hamilton. 2076 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,680 This is a tough one for you, man. 2077 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,560 I'm interested in your answer. 2078 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:40,560 Not really. 2079 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,680 Um, I'm going Ray Allen, man. 2080 01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:44,680 All right. 2081 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:45,760 I got no problem with it. 2082 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:50,320 I mean, at all timer, not that Richard isn't. 2083 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:51,520 Um, all right. 2084 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:52,520 We got to go. 2085 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,520 Derone, Sheffer, Kevin, Ollie. 2086 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,600 Now this is a tough one. 2087 01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:58,960 Good job. 2088 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:04,400 This is a tough one right here because I love both of them to death. 2089 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,480 They both did great things, but see, I played with Derone. 2090 01:31:07,480 --> 01:31:10,880 That's the only thing he has over Kevin right now. 2091 01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,920 Um, and Derone was a beast. 2092 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,200 People, you know, they like, oh, he's slow, but you couldn't guard them. 2093 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,200 You couldn't steal the ball from him. 2094 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,120 Um, I'm going with Kevin. 2095 01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:23,120 I like it. 2096 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,120 I like it. 2097 01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:25,120 I like I shuffled. 2098 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:26,600 I'd love to buy them a little faster. 2099 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:27,600 Yeah. 2100 01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:31,240 Pretty, pretty long NBA career for a guy who quote unquote couldn't shoot. 2101 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:32,240 All right. 2102 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:33,240 Exactly. 2103 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:37,720 The next one for you, Rash, uh, Kevin Freeman, Alex Caravan. 2104 01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:38,880 We're trying to blend it. 2105 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:43,160 The old with the new. 2106 01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:44,160 I love Freeman. 2107 01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:45,160 I mean, I love. 2108 01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:46,160 Oh, that's a word. 2109 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:47,720 Under, undersized big, all man. 2110 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,600 He was, I love the warrior Freeman. 2111 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,640 I didn't like the shoot at three point shooter. 2112 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,080 I like number 15 Freeman. 2113 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:54,080 I didn't like number 33. 2114 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:55,080 Yeah. 2115 01:31:55,080 --> 01:32:00,360 The dog Freeman, the dog that you know that underneath, you know, dunk on you off the 2116 01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:07,720 vertical K free, um, man, I'm a gold Kevin Freeman. 2117 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,720 I have three inches there too. 2118 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:10,720 Right. 2119 01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:11,720 6568. 2120 01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,720 We got to get a couple more for you. 2121 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:19,320 Um, one guy who I think is really underrated for you, can, uh, doesn't get talked about 2122 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,200 enough denim brown or Rudy. 2123 01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,200 Yeah. 2124 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:24,200 Man, denim. 2125 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:25,200 Oh man. 2126 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:26,200 That's my guy too. 2127 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:30,200 Uh, like he was, he was a little, he was a little, he was a little bit. 2128 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:34,040 He's not talked about with somebody other Huskies or whatever reason. 2129 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:35,040 I mean, yeah. 2130 01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:36,040 From Canada. 2131 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,040 Yes. 2132 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:48,040 Um, you know, you know, denim was a, denim was a dog. 2133 01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:49,840 I'm going with, uh, denim brown. 2134 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:50,840 I like it. 2135 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:51,840 I like it. 2136 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:52,840 I like that answer too. 2137 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:53,840 All right. 2138 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:54,840 Last one for you, rush. 2139 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:55,840 I think this is a layup for you. 2140 01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:56,840 Uh, you had mentioned him. 2141 01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,320 I think it's a good El Amin or Tristan Newton. 2142 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,320 Newton just got his number retired too, right? 2143 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:03,320 Oh, yeah. 2144 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,320 I got to go with my guy. 2145 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:05,320 I got to go with him. 2146 01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:06,320 I got you. 2147 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,160 I haven't seen one player check him yet. 2148 01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:18,360 How about Taleek or Ricky Moore? 2149 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:19,920 I'm going with Ricky. 2150 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,400 Taleek or Travis Knight or Voskal? 2151 01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:28,160 Uh, man, T Knight is my big bro. 2152 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:29,160 Wow. 2153 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,280 I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to go with Travis on this one. 2154 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:37,480 Uh, Sabi or Jeff Adrian? 2155 01:33:37,480 --> 01:33:38,480 Jeff Adrian. 2156 01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:41,000 I know I'm with you because you can put the ball in the basket. 2157 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,000 I mean, that's whatever. 2158 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:43,000 Tough SLB. 2159 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,400 Yo, I hope you had fun, man. 2160 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:45,400 This is incredible. 2161 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:46,400 Oh, Johnny, one more. 2162 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:47,400 One more. 2163 01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:48,400 Rush, did you ever drive in Jake Voskal's car? 2164 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:49,400 What? 2165 01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:50,400 His big foot? 2166 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,400 Yeah, talk about that a little bit. 2167 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:57,400 Oh, let me tell you a story about that. 2168 01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:02,400 The fucking car was so fucking big, he couldn't even drive it on campus. 2169 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:03,400 He had to keep it parked. 2170 01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:07,400 The figure was the S-Lite or one of them locked up there. 2171 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,920 He had to keep the car there because it was too big. 2172 01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:14,480 Number one, it took up both sides of the street. 2173 01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:20,360 Number two, it was the, like, literally you heard this car probably five to six blocks 2174 01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:21,360 away. 2175 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,480 I'm telling you, he had four little speakers. 2176 01:34:25,480 --> 01:34:28,960 I'm talking about these speakers with the size of a cell phone. 2177 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,840 And I said, Jake, this is like, why is your car this loud? 2178 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,840 He said, oh, these are astronaut speakers. 2179 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,840 Each speaker costs $2,000. 2180 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,040 I said, oh, excuse me. 2181 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,040 Okay. 2182 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:45,760 So he's riding around with, you know, two for $8,000 worth of speakers in his car. 2183 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:52,000 And this shit, like I said, if I was at Gamble, you could hear Jake, if he was across campus 2184 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,760 at the ice cream, at the ice cream bar collar. 2185 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,280 You guys were roommates too, right? 2186 01:34:58,280 --> 01:34:59,280 He was my roommate. 2187 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:00,280 That's correct. 2188 01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:01,280 Yep. 2189 01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:02,280 That was my roommate. 2190 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:03,280 Did he wear cowboy boots? 2191 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:04,280 Sure did. 2192 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:05,280 You ever put them on? 2193 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:06,280 No, no, no. 2194 01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:07,280 I'm trying to get me a pair now. 2195 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:08,280 What, are you going to Nashville or something? 2196 01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:09,280 Come on, man. 2197 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:10,280 No, I just, I just need me a pair of some, you know, like, you know, like, you know, 2198 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,280 like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, 2199 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:16,680 are you going to Nashville or something, come on, man. 2200 01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:17,680 No. 2201 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:18,680 I just, I just need me a pair of some, you know, some, some Texan cowboy boots in my 2202 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:19,680 arsenal. 2203 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,320 So, Rosh, we'll wrap it up right now, but what, what are you doing now? 2204 01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,960 You're working with kids, right? 2205 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,600 No, umm, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm a mentor. 2206 01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,860 Um, I mentor a lot of kids throughout Connecticut. 2207 01:35:31,860 --> 01:35:37,000 Um, Westchester, New York, even in Springfield, I have a few kids up there, but my, my, my, 2208 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,720 My everyday job is, I work for DDS, 2209 01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,520 Department of Developmental Services. 2210 01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,680 I manage two adult group homes. 2211 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:49,960 All of our residents suffer from intellectual disability. 2212 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:54,000 And I manage their everyday life from financial, 2213 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:59,000 medical, activities, programming. 2214 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,740 Anything that deals with their everyday life, 2215 01:36:02,740 --> 01:36:04,440 I manage their life. 2216 01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:06,840 Those people are very lucky to have you in their life. 2217 01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:07,680 I'll tell you. 2218 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:08,500 That's awesome. 2219 01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:10,400 You are an impressive person. 2220 01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,400 I appreciate that, guys. 2221 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:12,240 Thank you. 2222 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,480 All right, so this was amazing. 2223 01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:16,480 Don't hang up. 2224 01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:17,320 Yes, it was. 2225 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:18,160 Yes, it was. 2226 01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:19,000 I loved it. 2227 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:19,840 I had fun. 2228 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:20,680 Thank you very much. 2229 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,160 Everybody, number three from Trinity Catholic 2230 01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,640 and Stanford, Rash Jones. 2231 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:25,480 Thank you guys. 2232 01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:26,320 I appreciate it, man. 2233 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:27,400 I had fun tonight, man. 2234 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:28,240 Thank you guys. 2235 01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,080 I really appreciate it. 2236 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:29,920 All right, bud. 2237 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,440 Thank you. 2238 01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:32,280 You heard it. 2239 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:33,320 You heard it, people. 2240 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:34,320 Rash is coming back. 2241 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:35,480 Part two. 2242 01:36:35,480 --> 01:36:38,000 We're gonna get his cousin, Tori Thomas, down here 2243 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,380 in the house. 2244 01:36:39,380 --> 01:36:42,520 These are two terrific prep players, Trinity Catholic. 2245 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:44,840 They both have stories to tell 2246 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,840 and apparently more stories to tell. 2247 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:47,800 I guess so. 2248 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,120 We're gonna have to change the rating of this podcast, 2249 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:51,440 but we are down for it. 2250 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:53,020 Angry J's been pulling for it. 2251 01:36:53,980 --> 01:36:55,560 Thanks for coming, everybody. 2252 01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,680 Yangstern first, Yukon Six Nadi, 2253 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,000 Rash and Tori Thomas on the way. 2254 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:01,840 Thank you. 2255 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:05,680 Yes.