1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,000
Alright, well welcome back everyone to another episode.

2
00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,880
On today's episode I got a very special guest, she's actually the first returning guest

3
00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,120
that I've ever had in my podcasting career, so that's kind of neat.

4
00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,080
And we'll be discussing her new journal.

5
00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:32,360
So those of you that do any type of journaling understand the benefits of journaling for

6
00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,000
your mental health, your spiritual health, it's a fantastic practice to get into.

7
00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,120
So without further ado, Soad, why don't you kind of introduce yourself to the audience

8
00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,120
today.

9
00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,120
Hi, Johnny.

10
00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,920
And I kind of feel honored that I'm one of your first returned guests.

11
00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,920
Yes.

12
00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,920
Thank you.

13
00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,920
Thank you.

14
00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,920
Thank you.

15
00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,920
So I am Soad Tabrizzi.

16
00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,680
I am a licensed marriage and family therapist.

17
00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,200
I have a private practice.

18
00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,280
It's 100% telehealth.

19
00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,720
I'm licensed in about eight states.

20
00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,920
I blissed them, but I forget which ones.

21
00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,920
So forgive me.

22
00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:14,920
I think it's California, Nevada, Montana, West Virginia, Virginia, Utah, Florida, and

23
00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,600
I may be missing something in there and I'm not quite sure.

24
00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,600
I don't know how many that was.

25
00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,800
But so eight states.

26
00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,840
But I also like yourself.

27
00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:30,400
I also do counseling, code slash coaching for people that are outside of the states,

28
00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,680
because a lot of times you get people who are kind of just desperate for a conservative

29
00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,840
therapist and there's not many of us spread across the United States that are willing

30
00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,800
to say they're conservative.

31
00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,760
And so they'll beg and say, I don't care.

32
00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,280
I don't care about insurance.

33
00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,560
I don't care if you're licensed.

34
00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,960
And so I've decided to go ahead and offer counseling and just change the name to counseling

35
00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:56,400
because as therapists, as you know, we have lots of laws and that we have to follow.

36
00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,240
So I do that.

37
00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,600
And then on top of that, I also do a little aromatherapy.

38
00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:08,080
I integrate holistic health in my approach.

39
00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,560
And now I guess I can kind of call myself an author, which is kind of cool.

40
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,520
I decided to write a journal.

41
00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,400
And so here we are.

42
00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,080
And I love what I do.

43
00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,080
It's so much fun.

44
00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,960
I love helping people.

45
00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:29,040
I've been doing this since I've been licensed since 2014, but I've been working in mental

46
00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,040
health since 2009.

47
00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,320
So it's been about almost 15 years, not quite.

48
00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,320
Awesome.

49
00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,320
Awesome.

50
00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,880
And I know there's so much that we're probably going to get into.

51
00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,960
And I will tell the guest that or the audience that have not listened to this was back under

52
00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,360
my previous podcast title of the Truth and Grace Counseling Podcast.

53
00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,200
I'll have that older episode listed down below in the show notes.

54
00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,920
So you can check that out.

55
00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:00,520
So Ed and I covered all sorts of different fun topics and that one, particularly of being

56
00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,440
conservative counselors, which as she mentioned, there's not a lot of us out there.

57
00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,160
So definitely check that out if you've not already listened to that.

58
00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:15,520
But for today, like you said, kind of into that author space, creating a journal, which

59
00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,080
is wonderful.

60
00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,880
So let's just start with kind of an overview.

61
00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,040
What is your journal?

62
00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,040
What's in it?

63
00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,600
What kind of makes it stand out a little bit?

64
00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,880
So let me back up a little more if that's okay with you, Johnny.

65
00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,880
That's fine.

66
00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:37,240
So when I work with some of my clients, one of the main tools that I use for homework

67
00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,680
assignments is journaling.

68
00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,080
So they'll talk about some issue that's going on, whether it's trauma, situation, just a

69
00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,600
circumstance, anything.

70
00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,920
We only have 15 minutes to talk about it and kind of break it apart.

71
00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:56,560
And so I'll ask them, could you journal and kind of piggyback off of our session and talk

72
00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,000
about and process what it is that you've kind of learned from our session?

73
00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,400
And most times I get a blank stare saying, how do I journal?

74
00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,280
What do I even journal about?

75
00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000
And so I kind of have to coach them with some questions.

76
00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,360
And then they kind of look at me like, well, who do I journal to?

77
00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,360
Like what do I write to?

78
00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,600
And I was like, okay, then I have to kind of coach them through like how you journal.

79
00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,360
And then finally, after so many years of doing this, I've recognized like, you know, people

80
00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,520
aren't seasoned journalists like I am.

81
00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,200
I don't know if it's called journalists, journalists, excuse me.

82
00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,320
Because I've been journaling since I was in eighth grade.

83
00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,440
So for me, it's just, you know, it's my best friend.

84
00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,920
I wouldn't know how to do life without it.

85
00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,200
But for many people, it's a foreign concept.

86
00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,520
And that's kind of how the idea got birthed for me was like, you know, I really should

87
00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:54,560
have some tool of my own where when these questions pop up, because they always do, I can say,

88
00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,440
you know what, grab my journal.

89
00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:03,280
And what this journal is, is it's a 30 day, every day has a prompt, and you go through

90
00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,400
it and the hope is that you go through it consecutively.

91
00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,440
It's okay if you don't, there's no rules.

92
00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,880
No one's going to come and give you a grade for it.

93
00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,240
But it's preferred that you do.

94
00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,320
And the reason why is because I'm trying to help you create a new habit.

95
00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:26,480
And so many times there's the number one, I wouldn't say number one, the top five feelings

96
00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,440
that I get from people is that they feel lonely.

97
00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,160
And what this journal also does is it provides a space where you don't feel lonely.

98
00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,520
You feel like you actually are talking to someone.

99
00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,520
For many Christians, I always tell them, talk to God, that's who your journal is, you're

100
00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,080
speaking to him, you're sharing with him.

101
00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,160
And that's who I basically write to as well.

102
00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,960
And it's this best friend of yours.

103
00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,240
And I'm trying to create this habit so that you learn to rely on this kind of best friend.

104
00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,680
And what's so perfect about this best friend is that all it does is listen.

105
00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,080
It never talks back and never tells you what to do.

106
00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,200
It just listens to you.

107
00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,040
And it takes about 28 to 29 days to develop a new habit.

108
00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,360
It creates a new pathway in your brain for you.

109
00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,280
Once you've created that pathway, you've now created a memory in your brain.

110
00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:19,320
And so even if you fall off and forget to journal for a little while, once you get back

111
00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,960
into it, your brain remembers, oh, I remember this pathway.

112
00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,160
I remember this is what we do.

113
00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,400
And it's not as hard to get into the rhythm of it.

114
00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,600
It just immediately goes back.

115
00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,600
It's a muscle.

116
00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,760
It's already been developed.

117
00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,320
So that's why I picked 30 days.

118
00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,720
And like I said, each day there's a prompt.

119
00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,160
And in the beginning, it may seem kind of kindergartenish.

120
00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,720
Why am I being asked something like this?

121
00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,320
And again, it's strategic.

122
00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,600
It's to get you to just write.

123
00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:53,280
I don't want you to get into deep thought right away because that turns people away.

124
00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,560
What it does is it says, oh, if I have to journal tonight, I'm going to have to answer

125
00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,560
those heavy questions.

126
00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,480
And I'm just so not in the mood for that.

127
00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,720
So in the beginning, it's really just to get, hey, easy questions, two minutes of your time.

128
00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,720
That's it.

129
00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,920
So they kind of get encouraged to do it.

130
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,920
Then it gets a little heavier.

131
00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,840
And it does ask a lot more about your values and your beliefs.

132
00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,000
And if you're walking in contradiction of those values and beliefs, and why is that?

133
00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,160
And who's in your inner circle?

134
00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,440
What does that look like for you?

135
00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,600
And what were your biggest fears and so forth and so on?

136
00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,600
And then towards the end, the hope is that you've developed a really good understanding

137
00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,800
of who you are as a human being and whether or not you've liked this person.

138
00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,280
If this person is really who you want to represent as yourself.

139
00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,960
And if not, should we change it?

140
00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,160
With that said, I do have other journals coming up.

141
00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,160
And it's kind of in continuation of this.

142
00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,400
I'm working on them still.

143
00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,560
No release date.

144
00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:02,840
But they're coming because as I was writing this journal, I recognized, wow, there's something

145
00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,880
about learning about yourself that makes you want to learn more.

146
00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,080
It's almost, it's very addicting.

147
00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,200
It's like, okay, I discovered this, but what about this?

148
00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,800
And what about this part of my life?

149
00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,080
What about that part of my life?

150
00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,600
And so there'll be continuations of that in other journals as well.

151
00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,600
But that's the gist of what this journal is.

152
00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,920
You just answered a question that I was going to ask there of if there would be more in

153
00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,640
the future.

154
00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,600
And I think that's wonderful.

155
00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,920
This sounds, it's almost like this is the journaling 101 type of type of book here.

156
00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,200
And then maybe we kind of graduate in some of these, these ones that are in the works

157
00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,200
right now.

158
00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,200
Absolutely.

159
00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,840
And that's exactly what it is.

160
00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,600
It's really geared towards people who haven't journaled.

161
00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:52,040
And I could honestly say I have a friend of mine who has a daughter who's, I believe now

162
00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,800
almost six, six years old.

163
00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,640
And she's very intelligent, but I would hand this journal to her because she would be able

164
00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,640
to do it too.

165
00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:06,320
But I would also give it to the 60 year old that has never journaled, who's also very

166
00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,560
intelligent obviously and lived life and has experienced things and they would be able to

167
00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:14,080
very much enjoy this journal as just as much.

168
00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:23,120
So any age, as long as you can think for yourself, you can kind of sit down and look within.

169
00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,840
I know I talked about my friend, six year old.

170
00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,760
Yes, she can actually do this.

171
00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,800
It's incredibly brilliant child.

172
00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,520
Not every six year old could obviously, but she could.

173
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:39,760
And so anyone that can step back and kind of just look inside can absolutely use this

174
00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,960
journal to help them kind of learn more about who they are.

175
00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,320
The way you're describing that really reminds me of something that I talked to, to my own

176
00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,560
clients fairly often about.

177
00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:59,800
And I'll tell them that most of what we talk about in counseling isn't that complex.

178
00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,720
Like it's fairly simple.

179
00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,840
Like you think that you're dumb.

180
00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,160
Well, you're not dumb.

181
00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,880
You know, it's not, it's not like rocket science.

182
00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:13,760
But just because it's simple doesn't mean that it's really easy to be able to put into

183
00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:14,760
practice.

184
00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,240
It takes that discipline.

185
00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,040
And that's what we talk a lot about is recognizing where those thoughts are or whatever it may

186
00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,840
be and going into it.

187
00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,760
Those coping skills, you know what to do.

188
00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,360
We got to go do it.

189
00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,920
And that's what I like about kind of your idea, your vision with this journal is a six

190
00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,000
year old can do it.

191
00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,040
This is not super psychobabally difficult language.

192
00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,280
It's fairly simple, but you got to do it.

193
00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,800
You got to do it all 30 days.

194
00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,040
You got to form this new habit.

195
00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,880
And it sounds like it really walks through people without insulting their intelligence.

196
00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,880
Exactly.

197
00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,880
Exactly.

198
00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:57,120
I mean, there's no shaming in this journal whatsoever.

199
00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,720
It's like really teeny.

200
00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,720
It's not that big.

201
00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:06,960
You can even use it as a stocking stuffer or a gift or anything.

202
00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:07,960
It's really teeny.

203
00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,120
And inside, I mean, I'll give you one of the questions.

204
00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,440
It's something very simple.

205
00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,560
What are you grateful for today?

206
00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:18,880
Very simple.

207
00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,160
That's the first question.

208
00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:25,200
And then I ask a little deeper stuff if you want to get into it, like really, really deep.

209
00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,400
But the first question is just, Hey, what are you grateful for today?

210
00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,400
Very, very simple.

211
00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,360
And then you're given a few pages just to write into it.

212
00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,440
There's more pages in the back if you need to write more because I've given each day

213
00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,320
has a certain amount of pages, blank pages for you to write.

214
00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,600
But there's plenty more in the back if you need to continue with that question because

215
00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,960
you're feeling like, wow, I've got a really good rhythm going here.

216
00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,600
But very, fairly simple.

217
00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,080
You think it's simple, just like you said.

218
00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,960
But then it's like when you start writing, it's kind of profound.

219
00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,440
You're like, I just realized I am not a grateful person.

220
00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,480
I am not grateful for anything.

221
00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,000
I am a pessimist.

222
00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,920
All I do is walk around hating people.

223
00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,760
I mean, you just, this is an example.

224
00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,640
It's just what you discover from one simple question.

225
00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:10,640
You're right.

226
00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:16,120
During our treatment sessions, we don't, I mean, I don't know about you, but I don't

227
00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,840
talk cycle babble in my treatment sessions.

228
00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:24,280
It's really just questions like this where I'm like, what was that about?

229
00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,240
What did you mean by saying this?

230
00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,880
What were you thinking when you said this?

231
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,800
How did you feel when you said that?

232
00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:36,480
And the biggest question that I always ask is, well, how did that align with your values?

233
00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,960
Because you talked about some of your values before and that kind of contradicts it.

234
00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,400
So what's going on there?

235
00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,160
And that is the premise of this journal is figuring out why are you walking in contradiction

236
00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,240
to what you actually believe?

237
00:12:52,240 --> 00:13:00,760
And believe it or not, without having to label, but I just can't help myself here, many of

238
00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:09,840
my more progressive liberal clients walk more in contradiction than my conservative clients

239
00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,960
do.

240
00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,720
And it really is interesting to me to see that there is actually a line like I can see

241
00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,720
it.

242
00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:25,160
I have a lot of clients that love the trends, whatever kind of trends that are going on

243
00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,720
that believe in them, fight for them.

244
00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:34,360
But then when I hear them talk about their own home and their inner feelings and beliefs,

245
00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:40,880
they're in complete contradiction to what they're quote unquote fighting for externally.

246
00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,800
And so I note that and we dive deeper into that.

247
00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,520
What is that about?

248
00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,520
Why?

249
00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,400
And it's not about changing them.

250
00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:55,200
There's no agenda for me to convert any liberal into a conservative whatsoever.

251
00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:01,280
But I do have a job to play and that job is to make sure you're walking in health.

252
00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,680
And if you're walking in contradiction, that doesn't scream health to me.

253
00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:13,880
And so if you do believe some kind of social trend that's happening, then okay, let's change

254
00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,400
your value so that it aligns with that.

255
00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,360
And most times it's not that they want to change their values.

256
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:26,560
Most times it's, oh, well, maybe I can step back a little bit from that and maybe walk

257
00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,440
a little more alignment with my values.

258
00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,440
Yeah.

259
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,240
I think that's a huge point there.

260
00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:41,360
That's something kind of reminds me too of how when I treat couples that our first step

261
00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,440
is not to agree with one another, not one to be right or wrong.

262
00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,440
Do we understand each other?

263
00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,120
Do we have what she said and what he said?

264
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,800
Do we agree with that?

265
00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,200
Then we can get somewhere.

266
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,200
Then we can start solving.

267
00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,840
But if we don't understand each other, we can't really get anywhere.

268
00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,960
And that works on the couples in it, but it's also with yourself.

269
00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,880
Like, yeah, I say I value all these things.

270
00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,960
My family's the most important to me, but then I don't ever talk to them and see them.

271
00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,760
That doesn't make sense.

272
00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,440
And I love that what you're doing here.

273
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:24,400
And this is kind of a big thing that I've been thinking of just as a counselor that

274
00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,160
so many counselors, and I don't intend to put ill will on them.

275
00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:35,480
I don't think this is necessarily their goal, but they put so much emphasis on counseling

276
00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:41,560
itself that it becomes this dependence on the counselor that they have to go to them

277
00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,560
for everything.

278
00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,040
The client can't do anything on their own.

279
00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,480
And that's not our job.

280
00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,880
Our job is to try to help them understand themselves, like you said, to be healthier people.

281
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:58,520
And that's another thing I love about just this whole journal in and of itself is it's

282
00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,360
teaching you how to do it.

283
00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,040
It's not just coming to me and figuring out all of your problems.

284
00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:09,320
No, this is a tool to help you learn more about yourself and to make those values, those

285
00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,400
thoughts and values and actions all aligned with one another.

286
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,400
Absolutely.

287
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:21,600
And again, just like with myself in therapy, this journal has no agenda except to get you

288
00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,480
to love who you are and appreciate who you are and discover who you are, whoever that

289
00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,480
may be.

290
00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,200
Progressive, conservative, centrist, doesn't matter.

291
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:37,920
It's about making sure that if you have a belief system that you can stand firmly on

292
00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:44,240
that belief system, that you have a strong foundation in what it is you want to represent.

293
00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,160
And I want that for everyone.

294
00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,200
And like you said, you're absolutely right.

295
00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:56,200
There is no animosity or ill will towards our liberal counterparts.

296
00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,560
It's nothing like that.

297
00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:04,400
They have a place and their place is to help more progressive liberal individuals.

298
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,920
I'm happy that they're there.

299
00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:13,680
What I have issues with is it seems like they have an agenda, whereas we don't.

300
00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,720
And a lot of their agenda from what we're both on Facebook and we see all the therapist

301
00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:25,040
groups and a lot of times we see their comments say, I get my conservative clients in here

302
00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:32,680
and I hear their MAGA rhetoric and I work towards changing that and getting them to

303
00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:33,880
believe something else.

304
00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,760
And I'm just like, why?

305
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,840
Let them be the MAGA, whatever they are and push them back a little bit.

306
00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,840
Just go, why?

307
00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,320
I have a way to defend that.

308
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,080
Do you know why you feel that way?

309
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,080
Describe that to me.

310
00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,720
How would you defend yourself for it?

311
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,640
Are you walking in alignment with your MAGA beliefs?

312
00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,240
Whatever MAGA beliefs are, I'm really close to that.

313
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,960
But you get the point.

314
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:05,440
It's like their idea is I'm going to convert them, whereas my belief is I don't want to

315
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,840
convert anyone.

316
00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:14,240
I just want you to be proud of who you are and I want your walk to be aligned with your

317
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:20,680
talk and whatever that talk is that you're proud of it, you exhumate somehow.

318
00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,840
And also you appreciate that there's differences too, that not everyone's going to believe

319
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,440
the way you do.

320
00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,600
I love the differences in people.

321
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,160
And I was thinking about this the other day.

322
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,840
I remember, I don't know if it was like this for you in grad school.

323
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:42,040
I remember being in grad school and a lot of the questions that we had about what type

324
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,960
of modality is best for the person that I am and what I like and how I want to use it

325
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,480
in my sessions.

326
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,240
And there was always this debate of this modality is better than that.

327
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,760
Do CBT over DBT.

328
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,440
Just the back and forth.

329
00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:05,520
And most teachers always said, well, pick one and let it be different because the people

330
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:11,040
that you're going to serve may not like yours, but need the other person because they connect

331
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,040
with them better.

332
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:18,920
It'd be horrible if we all collectively decided this is what we're going to use because the

333
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,080
audience is not going to fit in that box.

334
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:28,200
There's going to be a huge array of differences that are going to be looking for a therapist

335
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,960
that kind of fits in the lines with their way of dealing with life.

336
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,720
And what essentially has happened is we have done the opposite of that.

337
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:43,440
We have now in grad schools, we are teaching them that you can't be a conservative.

338
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,280
It's not allowed.

339
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,480
And if you are, you're ethically going against what we believe.

340
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,680
So then what they're saying is that every conservative that's out there will not be

341
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,760
able to find a conservative therapist that matches and aligns with their beliefs because

342
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,720
we're all trained to be more progressive liberal.

343
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,760
And that's just so unfair.

344
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:12,240
I feel horrible for the people who are seeking therapy that want the more conservative person

345
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:17,080
because really we've been indoctrinated to believe there can't be a conservative therapist.

346
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,880
That's a no, no, that's not allowed.

347
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,720
So we've totally put us in a box.

348
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,480
And again, my agenda isn't to put you in my conservative box.

349
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,240
It's to say, hey, let's figure out what you are and celebrate wherever you fall.

350
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,720
I don't care, but just be proud of it.

351
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:42,040
You know, what you were saying there, it's pretty astounding to me that I've had some

352
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:50,240
accusations, which mostly are just online warriors that feel like making a name for themselves

353
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,240
behind a keyboard.

354
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800
So I don't take too much stock into it.

355
00:20:53,800 --> 00:21:00,800
But accusals of that fact of, oh, you're just trying to convert people and blah, blah, blah.

356
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:08,840
And I find that quite humorous in a lot of ways because on my website on Truth and Grace

357
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,960
Counseling that my beliefs are pretty much out there.

358
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,400
I'm pretty much an open book.

359
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:23,840
And I have explicitly in my informed consent since I am branded as more of a Christian

360
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,840
counselor, I have my statement of faith in there.

361
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,240
And I even more mentioned on there like, hey, tell me what you disagree with, you don't

362
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,760
have to agree with it.

363
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,080
But I just want you to read it.

364
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:41,760
And I do ask you to be okay with me having those beliefs because I'm putting that out

365
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,760
there.

366
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,800
And if you don't, great, I'll get you a referral.

367
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,960
We can go elsewhere.

368
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,440
That's not conversion.

369
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,160
That is not conversion therapy at all.

370
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:57,240
That is being upfront with this value system, allowing them to make an informed consent

371
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,280
and then we go our distance.

372
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:06,000
And but on the flip side, the people I do work with, I've had people, I've had someone

373
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:13,400
in Canada, I've had people all throughout the country, New York state that like, I can't

374
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:20,000
find a counselor that's not going to try to transition my kid or a counselor that isn't

375
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,200
just going to talk bad about my beliefs.

376
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:29,520
There's a reason why some of us are trying to be a little bit more open on the conservative

377
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,920
type of values.

378
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,440
And it's not to change clients minds.

379
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,680
It's because there's a market for it of clients that aren't going to get help that won't see

380
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,720
a counselor at all.

381
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,960
They'll just suffer in silence because they don't trust the counseling profession.

382
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,000
And that's sad that that's not what we're supposed to be about at all.

383
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,840
I wish that I didn't really feel this need to have to showcase my values out there.

384
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:59,800
But again, there's a reason for it because people have been burned time and time again

385
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,840
of I just don't trust anything.

386
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,200
I don't trust any counselor.

387
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,880
I just need to get over it and not deal with my problems.

388
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,520
And that's again, that's just really, really sad that that's where we're at sometimes.

389
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,360
You are absolutely right.

390
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:17,040
And I have done the same exact thing on my websites.

391
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,000
I mean, there's it's just out there that says, these are my beliefs.

392
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,760
And I list them bullet points of what my beliefs are.

393
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,240
And again, it's not about converting.

394
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,320
I'm not trying to convert anyone.

395
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,000
It's because just like you said, it's like, there are people out here that believe the

396
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,040
same thing you do.

397
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,280
I won't hurt you.

398
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,600
I won't harm you.

399
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,440
I won't shame you.

400
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,080
I won't roll my eyes when you talk about certain things.

401
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,000
I won't abandon you in therapy because you bring up a certain belief that's more conservative.

402
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,560
I won't do any of those things.

403
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,320
I'll listen to them.

404
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,640
And if you're liberal, I wouldn't do those things as well.

405
00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:00,320
Unfortunately, like you said, we're in a time where that kind of has to be stated.

406
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:06,480
We are our society has made it known that if you're conservative, you're bad.

407
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,840
You're wrong.

408
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,800
It's in our media all day long.

409
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,600
There is not a mainstream media outlet that leans conservative.

410
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,920
This is not conservative.

411
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:23,440
That is not something that I wish people understood that it is not a conservative station.

412
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:29,960
They do have more conservative guests on, but they're very left-leaning.

413
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,160
The owners are proudly progressive liberals.

414
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:41,360
And so it's everywhere that we're told being conservative or Uber conservative, it's quote

415
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:42,360
unquote wrong.

416
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:46,800
So putting that stuff on our website is just to say, hey, you guys are not wrong.

417
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,800
You're welcome here.

418
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,800
This is a welcome space.

419
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,440
Just like people of the LGBTQ plus community do it, just like Christians and Catholics

420
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,600
do it.

421
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,080
Just like Satanists do it.

422
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,600
We're also doing it too.

423
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,200
Hey, this is who we are.

424
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,000
You're welcome here.

425
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:11,080
At this point, I didn't believe this before, but you change your beliefs often.

426
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:17,400
I at this point now feel like it's just as important when a person comes into consultations

427
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,840
and they ask, well, what kind of tools do you have that you're going to give me?

428
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,840
They're asking me questions.

429
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,200
And what kind of modalities do you use in treatment?

430
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,720
And I'll say this and that or whatever.

431
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,840
And I think it's fair that they even ask, what side of the spectrum of policies do

432
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,960
you lean on?

433
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,160
Because I get it.

434
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,920
I get it now.

435
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Five years ago, no, we didn't need to ask those things.

436
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,200
It was almost a no-no to ask that.

437
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,880
But today, because they're constantly bombarded with hate them, hate them, hate them, hate

438
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,040
them, hate them, I can understand why the first question would be, are you going to

439
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,840
hate me because I'm a conservative?

440
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,160
No, of course not.

441
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,320
I'm not going to hate you.

442
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,320
Go check out my website.

443
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,000
You'll see that I won't hate you.

444
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,000
Yeah.

445
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,000
Like I said, it's unfortunately very common.

446
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,800
I first started putting myself out there.

447
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:18,200
And I've learned a lot of ways to communicate it in more effective ways than others.

448
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:27,080
But if you do it, and maybe you're not even a counselor, but just in general, if you do

449
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,920
that, you will receive backlash.

450
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,280
Yes, that much is true.

451
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,280
But you will have people reach out.

452
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,760
I've had so many people reach out that I've referred.

453
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,600
I've actually referred some to SOA that have been in states that I'm not licensed in to

454
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,400
other colleagues that I've been able to refer to.

455
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,200
And sometimes they know that going in, and they just want to send their gratitude.

456
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000
Thank you for saying something.

457
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,680
It takes courage sometimes to do that.

458
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,320
But there are people, there are many, many, many clients out there that, again, the alternative

459
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,200
is not they'll find a different counselor.

460
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,600
They won't.

461
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,600
They won't.

462
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,840
They won't get any help.

463
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,120
And ethically, when you get kind of things thrown at you ethically, oh, you shouldn't

464
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,480
put your political beliefs out there.

465
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,200
Well, ethically, this person's not going to get help.

466
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,320
I don't care what the licensing board says or the ethics of that says.

467
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:30,040
My ethics go beyond just a few initials after my name.

468
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,080
And I think that's something that more conservatives are, thankfully, are waking up a little bit

469
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,880
about and just cultural in general, that just because this licensing board says that just

470
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:47,080
because the president says this or that we're little by little starting to gain more power

471
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:53,000
of just within our own little communities and standing up a little bit.

472
00:27:53,000 --> 00:28:00,600
And that's something that is really encouraging that I've seen in both kind of conservative

473
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,160
counseling circles and just culture in general, by no means are we perfect.

474
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:11,120
We got so many other battles to fight, but you see more people in the battle, more people

475
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,120
that are fighting.

476
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:18,280
I think you saw that that in this last, I mean, it's just turned the page over and getting

477
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,360
done with June.

478
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:25,120
And obviously, June's a very politically charged month with different gay pride festivals

479
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,480
and things like that.

480
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:33,520
And this year, more than any in the past decade, more pushback and people are just kind of

481
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,240
tired of the same old stuff.

482
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,720
And that's encouraging that people are not just sitting there and taking everything any

483
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,320
longer than they're starting to fight back a little bit.

484
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,320
And you're right.

485
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,560
It's so encouraging to watch conservative therapists fight back and push back a little

486
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,920
bit because in the beginning, I mean, all this really started around right after Trump

487
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,480
became president and then a few years into it.

488
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:06,160
So maybe about 2018, 2019, it got really bad for us therapists.

489
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,360
And so, you know, since then, it's we've been scared.

490
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,640
We've kind of went in hiding.

491
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,440
We had so many threats about our licenses taken away and people losing their jobs.

492
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,120
Now, people have lost their jobs because of their political beliefs.

493
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,680
I haven't yet heard of anyone lose their license.

494
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,600
And the reason why it's harder to lose your license because a client actually has to be

495
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,720
harmed.

496
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,320
And so the client actually has to be the one to do the complaining to the board.

497
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640
And that's usually not the case.

498
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Usually it's a therapist that hates another therapist for their values and beliefs and

499
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,560
they call a board and complain.

500
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,320
Board's job is always to investigate no matter what.

501
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,280
But ultimately just comes down to well, what harm have they done to a client and there

502
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,360
is none.

503
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:02,240
So just within our own group, I'm pretty positive and certain that I can say no one has lost

504
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,960
their license.

505
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960
People have definitely been threatened.

506
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,400
People have definitely had gone to the lengths of getting lawyers to defend their license.

507
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,520
That's for sure.

508
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,600
But because of those things, it freaks you out.

509
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,160
And it freaks you out to a point you feel paralyzed because this is your livelihood.

510
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:26,480
This is not only for us, our livelihood, but what we went to school for, paid so much money

511
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,840
for, spent hours and internships for.

512
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,600
Basically hours of internships with like little to no pay.

513
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:40,920
And then to kind of sit back and go, I have to throw that all away because of my beliefs.

514
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,320
It freaks you out.

515
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,800
And they're winning when we do that because that's their whole point is to make us submissive

516
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600
and quiet and push us into a corner.

517
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,960
But we are pushing back.

518
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,600
And I think people like you and I within our group and the group I'm talking about is a

519
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,520
Facebook group that we have.

520
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,840
It's a secret Facebook group.

521
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,680
It's pretty private and for obvious reasons we get constantly attacked and people try

522
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,360
to sneak in and attack us and screenshot us and turn things into the board and yada yada

523
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,360
yada.

524
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,520
But this group, we have a good about 700 members that are conservative therapists.

525
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:23,280
Both social workers, marriage and family therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists, anybody that

526
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,680
works in the mental health field.

527
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,440
So this group of us, since people like you and I are going to our group and saying, hey

528
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:37,080
guys, we can do this still and we can even do this outside of our licenses.

529
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:44,080
We can get creative and still be therapists, but give ourselves a different name.

530
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,760
Give us a different title.

531
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,920
It doesn't, we still have our education.

532
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,520
We still have our years of experience.

533
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,360
We still have our current clients that love us obviously because they're not running away.

534
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,680
They're not going to the board.

535
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,320
They're not complaining about us.

536
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:04,280
If anything, we've gotten more and more clients because of this, the temperature in the room

537
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,680
that's going on.

538
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,480
The people are actually coming to us more.

539
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:15,200
And it's great that there are people like you and I and many others that are encouraging

540
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:22,520
the more quieter, scared conservative therapists to say, yeah, I guess I could do this.

541
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Our practices have not suffered because of this.

542
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:31,480
Our practices, like I said, if anything, and you've said it, you've gotten so much busier.

543
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,160
And all because we finally said, enough is enough.

544
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,000
I'm going to share my values and beliefs.

545
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,760
And you hit it on the nail and you said, you know what?

546
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,200
My ethics are more important than what the board tells me.

547
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:50,160
And I 100% believe that that board, I can almost guarantee, doesn't have a single conservative

548
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,440
on it.

549
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:58,000
And so when they're sitting around creating the ethics, no one's pushing back and saying,

550
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,400
hey, this doesn't sound right.

551
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,280
They're all just agreeing with what those ethics are, which means people like you and

552
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,840
I are not thought about at all.

553
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,560
Our beliefs are forgotten.

554
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,240
They're not even brought to the table.

555
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,600
So I don't really care about their ethics.

556
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,200
They can put that on paper.

557
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,560
I will follow it.

558
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,560
That's fine.

559
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000
That's an oath I took and I'll do it.

560
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:25,720
But if it comes down to saying, if you don't actually practice these ethics to the T, you're

561
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,600
going to lose your license, I will gladly turn it over.

562
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Take it.

563
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,760
Take it.

564
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,960
Because there are millions, and I believe it when I say 80 million because that's how

565
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,840
many people voted for the other president.

566
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Millions of people that need my help.

567
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,400
And I don't need a board to tell me I can help them or not.

568
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,440
I'll help them.

569
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,040
However I can, I will help them.

570
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Yeah.

571
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,040
100%.

572
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,920
And we've had some good discussions and I know you've done a lot with group members

573
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,200
just in general that, except broadening your horizons, that's what you're doing in part

574
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,840
with this journal, which is wonderful.

575
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,440
And they can help anybody.

576
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,240
Everybody can benefit from learning how to journal more effectively.

577
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:26,520
I've recently wrote, and this was one of the coolest just individual recognitions accomplishments

578
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:33,400
whatever that I've had, because it was completely out of the blue was not something I had in

579
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:40,480
mind, but I had been writing some articles for this awesome sub-stack, which if any of

580
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,520
you listening have not checked it out, it's called WrongSpeak.

581
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,080
It's wonderful.

582
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:51,920
It's a bunch of people that have values and thoughts and feelings that are not the majority

583
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,320
opinion in media circles.

584
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,560
And you don't have to be a journalist, have a degree.

585
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,720
I don't tell you I don't, but anybody can submit to them.

586
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:02,960
It's awesome.

587
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,000
So definitely check it out.

588
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000
But I submitted an article and it was kind of what you were talking about.

589
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,120
I titled it, conservatives need to be producers, not just consumers.

590
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:20,280
We're so used to, oh, well, the board said this, gosh, they're terrible, but I got to

591
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,280
keep my job.

592
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,320
What am I going to do?

593
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:29,760
And just that real defeatist attitude, instead of making something, like, I understand there's

594
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,440
bad stuff that happens in the world.

595
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,640
I'm not saying to cover your eyes and act like everything's good.

596
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,040
No, it's not.

597
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,520
But just sitting and complaining about it doesn't do us a whole lot of good.

598
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,760
Go and produce, go make something.

599
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:49,440
And what was awesome is getting that published on WrongSpeak, that's awesome on its own.

600
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,600
Again, I couldn't commend them highly enough.

601
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:58,720
I actually have an episode with Rebecca Velo that is one of the editors there.

602
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,320
That was actually my first faithfully engaged episode.

603
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,120
So I speak incredibly highly of WrongSpeak publishing.

604
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,120
That's amazing.

605
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,400
Good job.

606
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:15,080
But unbeknownst to me, there was a reader that was an editor for The Federalist and

607
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,960
picked up my article and then republished it on The Federalist, which was awesome.

608
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Amazing.

609
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,520
No idea that that was going to be the case.

610
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:33,640
But all it took, writing that article, which WrongSpeak articles are pretty short, they're

611
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,240
like 800 words or something.

612
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:41,480
Yeah, I went back and did some brainstorming and did some editing, although Rebecca did

613
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,560
a wonderful job doing the editing.

614
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,760
That's part of what I like about them because I'm not that professional writer.

615
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,600
But it didn't take me that long to write it.

616
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,960
It wasn't like that took years of my life.

617
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,360
It was an idea I had and like, oh, I think conservatives can really think about that

618
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,360
and that way.

619
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640
And then all of a sudden it's on The Federalist.

620
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,280
Now, I don't know, I would love to have another article on The Federalist, but I may not ever

621
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,640
have another one.

622
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,800
That's not the point.

623
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,920
The point is, you're never going, oh, it would never be on The Federalist again if I don't

624
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,240
write anything.

625
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:19,400
You're never going to make a journal.

626
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680
You're not going to have a journal that's out there for sale.

627
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,600
If you don't write it, you got to do it.

628
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,720
And I'm imagining, and I would love to hear more, so out of just your process of doing

629
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:30,720
it.

630
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:35,800
I imagine you went through many drafts and times like, oh, nope, that doesn't work.

631
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,880
It's not perfect off the get go.

632
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,880
But you did it.

633
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,880
You stuck through it and you did it.

634
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,600
So don't just sit there and wait for the world around you to change.

635
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,360
It's not.

636
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,360
Do something.

637
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Do something with your life and make the world better, even if it's just in your family.

638
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,840
Go be a better dad, a better mom.

639
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,840
Just do something.

640
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,760
Don't sit around and complain all the time.

641
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,760
Oh, yes.

642
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,560
Oh, my gosh.

643
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:10,840
You know, when I wanted to do this journal, make the idea a real thing, the first thing,

644
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,120
and I think this is what stops everyone, the first thing that pops up is fear.

645
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,520
The fear of what if it's stupid?

646
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,160
What if no one buys it?

647
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,920
What if I do it and I hate it?

648
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,200
But it was just this constant like what ifs, this fear just pops up.

649
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:36,000
But I have developed such a muscle of pushing back against those what ifs from years and

650
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,320
years and years of just starting businesses or creating content or whatever it is I'm

651
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,320
doing.

652
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,760
It's years of pushing back that my muscle in that area is pretty strong.

653
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,760
It just goes, shut up.

654
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,760
I'm not listening to you.

655
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,760
I got to get this done.

656
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:56,000
Some people don't have that muscle and so that what if takes over, it's stronger than

657
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,920
them and they kind of step back and go, okay, they win.

658
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,800
My what if wins.

659
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,840
A lot of times in therapy, that's what we're working on is the what ifs and pushing back

660
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,560
on those what ifs.

661
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Once that muscle's developed, then you can silence that what if and move on to the next

662
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,120
step, which is how, how do I publish?

663
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,320
I don't know how to publish anything.

664
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,880
I've never published anything before.

665
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,400
Where do you even start?

666
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,480
It was, I asked friends who've written books, like how did you get your book published?

667
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,320
Where did you go?

668
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,440
Got answers and I asked specific, no, I need to know the website and don't just give me

669
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,440
the name.

670
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,880
What is the website and where do I, how do I do this?

671
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,880
Can I self publish?

672
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,080
Should I go with a publisher?

673
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,080
What are the pros and cons?

674
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:46,320
I mean, I researched the how to first a lot before I actually sat down and wrote this.

675
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,840
And then when I felt like, oh, that's all I have to do.

676
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:56,360
Well, good Lord, that's the easiest, that's the easy part that and really all it was,

677
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,760
and I'll share this with everyone.

678
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:04,160
It's a simple Amazon, they have their own publishing where you can self publish.

679
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,240
They have a great website.

680
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,880
I think it's called, I remember it because I want to be as specific as I was when I was

681
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,120
at KDP.

682
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,760
And it's AmazonKDP.com, I believe it is.

683
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,840
And literally you just go there after you've completed your book, you've got to complete

684
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,440
it first and you upload it, you tell them how much you want it.

685
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,720
They'll tell you like what profits you'd make if it's this price or that price and they'll

686
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:36,080
tell you what they can do and can't do as far as soft copies, hard copies, sizes.

687
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,640
Very simple, very simple.

688
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,880
So once I was like, okay, this is actually easy.

689
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,360
So now I've got to actually write it.

690
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,640
And I have to say, the writing wasn't hard.

691
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,160
And again, because it was years of my experience of just doing this already.

692
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,120
So writing the questions was fairly easy for me.

693
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,040
Sure I went back and kind of like, I want this question here instead of that question

694
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,120
there, maybe I'll bump this here.

695
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,840
And then some wordings here and there, sure, I'll change that, that's fine.

696
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,880
But then it was like, okay, now, because I designed it as well.

697
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,600
So then I was like, okay, well, now I got to design it.

698
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,040
I just don't want words on paper.

699
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,680
So then I used Canva.

700
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Easy.

701
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,360
Again, process.

702
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,760
Put all my questions in Canva, created sheets.

703
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,200
Canva has lines even.

704
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,240
They have templates for lines for the journal.

705
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,560
Put it in there.

706
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,520
Create a PDF because everything wants a PDF when you go and upload it into the system

707
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,200
for Amazon, you need a PDF.

708
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,920
Did that.

709
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,800
Amazon was great as far as saying like, hey, you know, this is the preview.

710
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,200
So I can look at it and go, oh, this is kind of off and this is a little off.

711
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,640
And then I just go back to canvas, make the changes, upload it again.

712
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,800
Easy process.

713
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,960
And believe it or not, because I'm my own editor, I'm my own author, I'm my own designer,

714
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,040
all of it's me.

715
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,760
I don't have a partner in any which way.

716
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:06,760
I copied and pasted all of the content into AI.

717
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,960
And I said, make sure my grammar is okay.

718
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,360
And it did.

719
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:16,480
I mean, there, we talk badly about AI and trust me, I have my reservations about AI

720
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,480
as well.

721
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,200
But for now, I'm going to use that to my benefit.

722
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,200
And that's how I used it.

723
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,120
I was like, you know, I don't have someone.

724
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,600
I don't want to really pay somebody to edit this for me.

725
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,200
Make sure all my words in the right place, the commas are in the right place, the question

726
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,960
marks are in the right place.

727
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,120
So AI did it and it came back and said, hey, you know, you should put this here and you

728
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,960
should maybe put the comma there and this is a fragment.

729
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,280
Are you sure you want it or fragment?

730
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,280
You want to change it maybe to this.

731
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,000
And it gives you suggestions.

732
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,600
Maybe rewrite this sentence.

733
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,600
So it looks like this.

734
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,800
I was like, oh my God, this is heaven.

735
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,040
And that took all of two seconds because it quickly populates for you.

736
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:56,000
So I few edits, it wasn't that much, few edits of here and there wording and fragments, maybe

737
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,600
some fragments are intentional because it's the way I talk.

738
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:06,080
And so once that was done, you make the changes again in Canva downloaded again in the PDF

739
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:11,760
uploaded again into a PDF into Amazon and click publish within a day.

740
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,360
The book was published.

741
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,000
That's it.

742
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,320
Simple as that.

743
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,800
But the beginning stage of it is I am not going to let fear take over.

744
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,640
I am going to fight back the what ifs.

745
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,880
I don't care if no one buys this book.

746
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,960
That wasn't the purpose.

747
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,480
I am not making a huge profit off of this book.

748
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,160
I'll tell you that right now.

749
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:39,040
Amazon, one of the searches I did was finding out who is the best as far as your return

750
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,160
goes and Amazon was the best.

751
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,160
They give you a good chunk of it.

752
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,480
However, they take a big chunk of it to produce it and to ship it.

753
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,720
So you really don't make much.

754
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,720
So again, that wasn't the purpose.

755
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:53,720
It's cute.

756
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:54,720
It's nice.

757
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:55,720
I mean, trust me, it's there.

758
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:56,720
Sure.

759
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:59,160
But the purpose is to help.

760
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,240
And if that's my goal.

761
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:09,240
I was tired of spending too much time in helping someone answer certain questions outside of

762
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:13,560
the therapy room because that was wasting time in the therapy room.

763
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,800
So instead it was like, oh, you don't know how to journal?

764
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,960
Grab my journal.

765
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,400
Grab it on my website, click the link, get it.

766
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,960
Now I don't have to spend time teaching them how to journal in session.

767
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,520
I can talk about what you're going to go journal after session.

768
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,480
Let's get into the process and the deep stuff.

769
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,080
Now go journal about it.

770
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Yeah.

771
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,640
That's kind of how the book happened.

772
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:40,240
And because I saw it while this was simple, it's like, well, let's start the next one.

773
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,520
It just, I mean, Nike has it right.

774
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,720
Just do it.

775
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,080
Just do it.

776
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,480
Even if quote unquote, you fail.

777
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,360
I mean, I don't know how you can fail.

778
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,600
It didn't cost me a penny.

779
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Not Johnny, I'm not kidding you.

780
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,320
Not one penny to make this book.

781
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,480
All it did was take some of my time.

782
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:05,480
And if I put that time together at eight hours of work, one full day of work, that's all

783
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,320
it was.

784
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,920
And now I've got this book out there and if people need it, they can use it.

785
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,840
And it's like, it got me excited to want to do more.

786
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,360
And it's amazing what it does for your self-esteem.

787
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,800
And with self-esteem, I'm caveating.

788
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,800
So forgive me.

789
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,480
I'm just going all over the place, Johnny.

790
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,480
You can tell me to shut up when you do.

791
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,480
You're good.

792
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,480
No, you're good.

793
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,920
And with self-esteem, it's one of, I think it's a big misconception that we have with

794
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,480
self-esteem and motivation.

795
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,440
We think it's one of those things we're born with.

796
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,880
And that's so not true.

797
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,480
We're not someone who's just motivated.

798
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,760
Well, that person's just motivated.

799
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,760
Well, that person just has good self-esteem.

800
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,760
No.

801
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,680
They're both developed.

802
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,720
And how self-esteem is developed is when you actually put into action some certain thing,

803
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:52,720
whatever that project is.

804
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,480
You have an idea and you put it into action.

805
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,800
And you actually come back with something, whether good or bad, doesn't matter.

806
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,800
Maybe you failed at it.

807
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,720
Maybe you got good at it.

808
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:07,080
But you put into motion something that develops self-esteem.

809
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,240
You can step back and go, oh, I actually did that.

810
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:14,040
Maybe it didn't come out the way I wanted it to, but I did it.

811
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,800
So I know I can do that.

812
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,880
Now I can do it differently.

813
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,960
That's how self-esteem is developed.

814
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,280
And that's what this does for you, doing things like, I'm going to push back the

815
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,760
what if.

816
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,480
And I'm going to go and I'm actually going to do this.

817
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,360
And then you step back and you're like holding the thing in your hand and you're like, wow,

818
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,360
I freaking did that.

819
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,360
That's amazing.

820
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,720
I'm going to do it again.

821
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,240
And that's what keeps you going and going and going.

822
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:42,680
And that's what motivates you.

823
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Motivation's the same thing.

824
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,080
You develop it through discipline.

825
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,360
You don't wake up one day and just have it.

826
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,360
No.

827
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,880
You have to work at it like you do with your self-esteem.

828
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,160
So thanks for letting me talk about that for a second.

829
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,160
Absolutely.

830
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:03,160
And I'm hoping that people that are listening to this, some of them might be counselors.

831
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,680
I have some psychology background, but most listeners don't.

832
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,240
But you have something.

833
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:16,720
You have a dream that maybe you've not pursued or an avenue of maybe you're wanting to write

834
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:21,760
a book or something or goodness, asking a girl out that you haven't had the confidence

835
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,760
to do.

836
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,720
But everybody has something that they want to accomplish.

837
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:31,560
And I think that should be very encouraging here in SoHut's story that, yeah, it took

838
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,560
work.

839
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,880
It took different things.

840
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,720
She had to ask the right questions, find everything.

841
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:45,440
But the most difficult part in that journey is getting it done, doing it, realizing that

842
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,600
I can do this.

843
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:52,240
And then when you're actually at that point, when you started, oh, well, that's not that

844
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:53,800
bad.

845
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,000
And for you, you even figured out you're using these tools, which we were kind of talking

846
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,680
off camera a little bit about kind of the more of the conservative type of view towards

847
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,760
AI, which I'm with SoHut.

848
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,800
I understand some of the apprehensions.

849
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,120
I always think of a movie like, oh goodness.

850
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,000
So I do not have to help you.

851
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,480
No, not iRobot.

852
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,800
It's the Disney one.

853
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,800
The Pixar.

854
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,360
Oh, Avatar.

855
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,120
No, I don't know.

856
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,920
No, I'm thinking of I know it.

857
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,800
There's the one where they like that they all have to go up into this like spaceship thing

858
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,520
because the earth got too trashy and stuff.

859
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,040
Oh, God.

860
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,640
Anyways, I'll put it in the show.

861
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,280
Is it a cartoon?

862
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,280
It's yeah.

863
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,280
So it's Pixar.

864
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,280
So it's one of the animated ones.

865
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,280
I have no idea.

866
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,280
You know what?

867
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,280
It's bothering me.

868
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,280
I don't have kids.

869
00:48:51,280 --> 00:49:00,160
I don't really watch a lot of the cartoon stuff.

870
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,600
This is great podcast in here.

871
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,200
Because I'm thinking iRobot.

872
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,360
I'm thinking of Minority Report.

873
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,640
I'm thinking of what's spaceship?

874
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,760
My goodness.

875
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,160
Even my look up is bad.

876
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,480
I inside out.

877
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,160
Not inside out, although that's a good one.

878
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,160
Yeah.

879
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,160
That was a really good one.

880
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,600
Actually, I really liked inside out.

881
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,280
And I watched that from a referral of a client.

882
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,720
A client of mine was like, you've got to see that.

883
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:35,440
That explains everything about me.

884
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,760
I'm like, okay.

885
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,840
That was a good one.

886
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,840
It's Wally.

887
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,840
Wally is what I was thinking.

888
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,200
Yes, I have seen that one.

889
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,920
I think another client referred that movie to me too.

890
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:44,920
Yes.

891
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,920
Yes.

892
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,920
I think that was for the wonderful podcast.

893
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,680
I was like, I like some of the natural things.

894
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,400
So I do that all the time.

895
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,880
I need to know it.

896
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,880
Good.

897
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,240
I'm glad you did.

898
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:04,280
So Wally, in that movie, basically the earth got way too trashy and all this bad stuff.

899
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,760
They lost all this vegetation.

900
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,800
So they go up into this big spacecraft.

901
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,280
All of the humans are super fat.

902
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:19,560
And literally, they don't even walk because they have all this technology.

903
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,240
And basically, everything is given to them at the press of a button.

904
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:29,120
And I know that's what a lot of conservatives kind of have in mind if we let robots, AI

905
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,480
stuff overtake.

906
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,840
And that is a legitimate concern.

907
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,960
I'm not trying to say that we need to just act like everything's fine and just have technology

908
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,440
for every little thing.

909
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,640
My wife and I were actually talking about that today with our kiddos.

910
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,320
It's not like we don't ever let them watch TV or anything like that.

911
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:55,120
But we actually don't really allow them to spend much, particularly like cell phone time

912
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,920
or iPads, things like that.

913
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,160
Because we do have concerns.

914
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,760
We want them to be able to go out and run outside, which we did this morning.

915
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,320
And they were super muddy and all the fun, just getting your hands and feet dirty.

916
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,080
I think that's important, especially for little ones.

917
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,520
So I say all that to say, I am sympathetic to some of the arguments against some of the

918
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,480
AI and things like that.

919
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,760
But that being said, just like anything else in this world, it can be used for bad means,

920
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,640
but it can be used for good means too.

921
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:32,720
I've heard some people, I've got some friends that have been able to use chat GPT for all

922
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,440
sorts of brilliant things.

923
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:43,040
Like this one guy, he's able to do this stuff with looking for houses for sale.

924
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,680
He's done this little algorithm and it pops up when these certain things and this certain

925
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,560
parameter, I mean, it's really cool what you can do with some of that.

926
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:57,640
So don't demonize technology, just making it into a big box.

927
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,160
It's all bad.

928
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,560
No.

929
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,480
But you need to have something a little bit deeper underneath there.

930
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,920
When it goes back to your value system, what's guiding some of that technology?

931
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,360
What's the end goal here?

932
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,720
Is it to better things?

933
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:21,000
Because I'll tell you, this is very residual, but what SOA did there with some of the tools

934
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:27,200
she had through Canva and through the self publishing, the AI editing, that's actually

935
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:33,720
impacting me and some of my clients because I'm going to recommend this journal because

936
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:40,240
I've had similar experiences like, eh, journaling, especially with some of my mail clients, like

937
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:41,240
I don't want to diary.

938
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,560
I don't want to do that.

939
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,040
And this is a fabulous resource.

940
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:52,560
And yeah, AI didn't just print that out to me directly, but indirectly, I was positively

941
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,240
and my clients positively impacted by that.

942
00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:00,240
You're going to have a hard time convincing me that's a bad thing.

943
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:03,160
So try to temper that a little bit.

944
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,440
How can AI be used in a positive way?

945
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,040
In the negative ways?

946
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,440
Okay, speak up about it.

947
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,800
Maybe we need to have a deeper conversation when it comes to self-driving vehicles and

948
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,960
things of that nature.

949
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,920
Fine, let's have those conversations.

950
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,560
But just because something says AI doesn't mean it's all bad.

951
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:33,520
And honestly, if you look at yourself, you know that you use technology that people would

952
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,680
have thought was witchcraft not that long ago.

953
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:42,400
So what I am talking to each other on a computer screen, that's crazy talk.

954
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,680
So just don't demonize all AI things.

955
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,120
Use it for productivity.

956
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:53,600
I've had people to say, AI can actually be really cool about finding creative ways to

957
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,600
share the gospel.

958
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,880
Like it's pretty cool what you can do with it.

959
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,920
So anyways, that's my two cents out there.

960
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,280
Use AI for good, not for evil.

961
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:09,080
You know, so this is how I like to compare it.

962
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:16,920
We have our Second Amendment right to have guns to protect ourselves.

963
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,440
It's our right and still people use it for bad.

964
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,840
People still use guns and harm and hurt other people.

965
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,880
I feel AI can be used the same way.

966
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,400
It's not AI that's bad.

967
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,560
It's the people that use AI that make it bad.

968
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:40,320
And AI is a tool that's there and the person's intention on how to use that is what matters

969
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,720
and how they use it is what matters.

970
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:50,520
Because sure, it's going to, for you and I who have integrity and hold some morals and

971
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:55,040
have some Christian values, we will probably use AI for good.

972
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:02,560
But people who maybe hate the world and want to have some destruction with the world and

973
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:09,680
want to spew poison to people and mislead them will probably use AI for that purpose,

974
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,520
to harm and hurt others.

975
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:17,240
So I don't necessarily think AI is bad, but I think that yes, it can be used for bad

976
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:25,080
and that's determinant on the person that's using it or the government that's using it.

977
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:33,040
So for now, I'm using it with good intentions to help me produce things to give out to people

978
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,800
so that I don't sound like a two-year-old trying to write something.

979
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,280
And it's been wonderful.

980
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:46,200
Even when I write my posts, again, I write lengthy posts on Instagram and I really want

981
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:52,040
someone to just double check my grammar and I throw it into chat GPT and it comes back

982
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,560
and says, yeah, looks great or change this.

983
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,200
And I love that.

984
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,040
I love being able to use it that way.

985
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,800
Now, I don't get too sophisticated because I really don't know how to get sophisticated

986
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,800
on it.

987
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,960
I'm not doing algorithms and trying to figure out how to write code.

988
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,520
But for the purposes that I need it for, it's a wonderful tool.

989
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,040
It's a wonderful tool.

990
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,960
I know the day will come where it's going to change and bad people are going to get a

991
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,600
hold of it and bad people are going to have bad intentions and do some bad things and

992
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,600
we're all going to have to really be careful with it at that point.

993
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:32,720
But until then, I'm going to use it as much as I can for the benefit of others, like you

994
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,640
said, definitely.

995
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,680
And some of this is some of that strategy, kind of like we're talking about before with

996
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,400
just conservatives in general.

997
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:46,400
And again, to put a little caveat on it, I always say with conservatives, there's a

998
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:52,840
reason why we're a little bit slower on some things and it's not all bad.

999
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,720
Conservatives, like even just in the name, you're conserving something.

1000
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:01,840
I want there to be some type of values that we stick to.

1001
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:07,440
So some of that inherently, we're a little bit slower on some things for good reason.

1002
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:15,520
But again, that being said, we can be purest all we want and say, nope, no AI in this house.

1003
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,320
You can do that.

1004
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,960
But you think everybody else isn't.

1005
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,520
You think the liberal next door is not using that to get a leg up.

1006
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,920
Of course they are.

1007
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,480
So we can be a stick in the mud all we want, but that's not going to do you much good.

1008
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,560
So like you're saying, how can we use it for good?

1009
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,760
And even if you are saying like, oh, these are really bad ways, what if it gets into

1010
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,200
these hands or those hands?

1011
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,800
Again, I get it.

1012
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,800
Take some time.

1013
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:48,640
Like how can you express that in appropriate ways and show the real dangers?

1014
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:54,480
Who are people you can talk to, city governments or whatever, to be able to express those concerns?

1015
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,880
Do something about it.

1016
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:02,000
And then just type into the void of the internet and scream at people and not really do anything.

1017
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,560
Again, that's just complaining.

1018
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,080
It's not really helping anybody.

1019
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:12,600
And truth be told, I was one of those people when AI first came out, I was like, uh-oh,

1020
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,520
I don't think I like this.

1021
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:20,400
And instead of just sitting on that thought and belief with no backing, it was just this

1022
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,520
idea of like, uh-oh, where's, but I questioned like, well, where is this coming from?

1023
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,840
Where's this hesitation coming from?

1024
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,800
Why do I feel this way?

1025
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,160
Someone must have told me to feel this way.

1026
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,480
Maybe it's my instinct.

1027
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,720
I don't know.

1028
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:33,880
So what did I do?

1029
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,800
I went to chat GBT and I checked it out myself.

1030
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,120
I was like, well, let me see what this hype is about.

1031
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,760
I had no idea how to use it.

1032
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,680
I just went to the website and it's a click here to log in.

1033
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,880
You don't have an account.

1034
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:47,880
Create one.

1035
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:48,880
Okay.

1036
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,880
Created one.

1037
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,400
And then all of a sudden you're on a page that says, tell me how I can help you.

1038
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,400
Huh?

1039
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,080
It's like, uh, I don't know.

1040
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,920
So I just asked it a simple question.

1041
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,080
I think if you go down, you could, it keeps the memory of all of your past conversations.

1042
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,880
I don't know what my first question was, maybe something with mental health, I'm sure, just

1043
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,000
a random question, like tell me about CBT or something.

1044
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:16,320
And it popped up this whole thing about what CBT is and the history of it, where it came

1045
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,320
from.

1046
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,320
I was like, what?

1047
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,320
I was blown.

1048
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,560
Like this is, you can do this?

1049
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,560
Like amazing.

1050
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:29,280
It's basically Google 5.0.

1051
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,280
That's really what it is.

1052
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,440
It's like, okay, it's going to really give you information, but it's not going to give

1053
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,360
you the search results.

1054
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,920
It's actually going to take the results and put it into a big thing.

1055
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,200
As an intellectual person, I'd like to think of myself as one.

1056
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:51,320
You then read it and then you look at it and go, oh, this sits well with me or oh, this

1057
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,920
doesn't sit well with me.

1058
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:59,720
Some of the questions I've asked it in the past are about naturopathic holistic healing.

1059
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:05,360
And as we know, the more mainstream doesn't like that approach to health.

1060
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,120
And so I wanted to test it and see, like, is it going to come back and tell me you shouldn't

1061
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,040
search this because it's bad and you need to go to pharmaceuticals.

1062
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,800
I'm obviously generalizing.

1063
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:16,800
But it didn't.

1064
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:22,080
It did pull from websites that promote this.

1065
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,960
But at the end, there was a paragraph you should always check with your doctor if you

1066
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,480
ever want to pursue these kinds of things.

1067
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,680
I know, again, as an intellectual person, to look at that and go, they have to say that.

1068
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,440
That's something that they must say.

1069
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,760
But everything above that was great information.

1070
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,160
I was like, yeah, this sounds right to me.

1071
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,160
I know this stuff.

1072
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,800
I'm pretty well versed in this stuff so I can see whether it might be something like,

1073
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,040
you know, this doesn't sound right.

1074
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,040
There was no alarms.

1075
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,520
I didn't find anything wrong.

1076
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,000
Very generalized, but still it was still good information.

1077
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,760
And then the other thing you just have to know about chat GPT is that it only gives you information

1078
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,760
up until 2022.

1079
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:04,320
So anything 2023 or 2024 and on it, it doesn't have anything for you on that.

1080
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,680
And it can't, from what I understand, it can't, at least because I don't know how to use

1081
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:13,640
it, it can't use, it make graphs and diagrams.

1082
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,080
I've tried to ask it to and it just hasn't.

1083
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,200
I think it's just text based stuff.

1084
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:26,000
I'm by no means an expert on it myself, but I'm pretty sure it just does text related.

1085
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,000
Yeah.

1086
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,720
I think you have to get like a widget to add to it.

1087
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,800
And I'm like, okay, that's way beyond my brain.

1088
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,200
Just check my spelling, please.

1089
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,200
That's all.

1090
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,200
Yeah.

1091
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,200
Yeah.

1092
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,720
Again, using it for, use it for production.

1093
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,520
Use it for, for good means.

1094
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:50,600
And I think another great thing about it is it lowers the bar for some things that were

1095
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,600
completely unimaginable.

1096
01:01:51,600 --> 01:02:00,000
This is a little bit of a side topic here, but it's part of what I, I, I despise news,

1097
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,920
especially your prototypical like local news.

1098
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,840
And there's some stuff in it that's better than like national news because it's going

1099
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,120
to cover local things that aren't, aren't covered in the national news.

1100
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,120
So I get that.

1101
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,720
And so it's not so much the content that's set in the local news.

1102
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,560
It's the whole stick of it.

1103
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,960
It feels so inauthentic to me.

1104
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:28,920
It's like, it's stuck in a lost era that just doesn't make much sense to me anymore.

1105
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,120
And it's so dramatic.

1106
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,240
So it's like, burky news.

1107
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:37,840
Like the, basically the only time I see news like that is when I'm at my, at my granny's

1108
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,520
house and she, she loves, loves news.

1109
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,520
That's too cute.

1110
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,960
It just, I don't like that genre at all.

1111
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,960
And part of it is, you know, you think back into my granny's days, she didn't have the

1112
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,320
ability to go find that information.

1113
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,480
Like no way.

1114
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:02,640
Even in her own hometown, like you're so busy with your stuff, taking care of your family,

1115
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,120
doing your job, cooking and all that.

1116
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,720
And they didn't have the technology.

1117
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:14,160
The thing that's in our pockets every day is way more powerful than what she had when,

1118
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,360
when she's in her thirties, like not even close.

1119
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:24,240
So they needed that technology to be able to have that type of format because they had

1120
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,600
that, those only way you're going to get that information was by turning into the news read

1121
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,360
in the newspaper.

1122
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:36,880
And they still serve somewhat of a point today, but not nearly as much.

1123
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:42,320
I don't need to go, I don't need to turn on my local news to find out that we just had

1124
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,960
a new tea place that opened here in town.

1125
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,960
I didn't need to turn the news on to find that out.

1126
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,240
I could find that out very quickly.

1127
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,160
So they're, they had their Facebook up, this place is open today.

1128
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,160
Great.

1129
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,160
Let's go get some tea.

1130
01:03:55,160 --> 01:04:00,560
Again, that barrier to entry is so much lower just in general that that's why we're seeing

1131
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,440
a lot of cable news, things like that, they're really dying out because people don't need

1132
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,680
them anymore.

1133
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:12,440
And with some of these AI type of things now so add is able to publish a journal.

1134
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:19,040
Like that barrier to entry to things that you never had access to or to get access, you

1135
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,720
had to pay boo-cues of money.

1136
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,160
Now that's really lowering down.

1137
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:31,560
Now a potential pitfall is that means that maybe you need to, to screen things a little

1138
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:32,560
bit better.

1139
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,520
And there might be some things that get through that normally wouldn't like, oh, well, that's

1140
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:37,920
just nonsense.

1141
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,320
So we can't just lose all thinking ability.

1142
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:46,080
We always need to use our brains, but that's, that's a good thing though.

1143
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,680
We are made and this is definitely in my Christian worldview.

1144
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,000
We are created by the creator.

1145
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,920
We're made in his image.

1146
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,720
And when it talks about being fruitful and multiply, obviously that applies and, and

1147
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,640
childbirth, birth and things like that, but it goes beyond that.

1148
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:10,560
That, that was the reason why that was such an important thing is they, they were creating,

1149
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,880
they were creating new humans, which is incredible.

1150
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,600
My wife is pregnant with, with our third child.

1151
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,600
That's incredible.

1152
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,560
What an incredible creation, but it goes beyond that.

1153
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:28,560
We create art, we create music, we create journals, create these books.

1154
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,200
We are made to create.

1155
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:31,760
It's in our DNA.

1156
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,800
And these are tools, like so it said, to use to create.

1157
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,560
So go and use them.

1158
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:38,800
Tools are not the problem.

1159
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,840
Again, in the Christian worldview, it's our sin.

1160
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,240
Sin will infect AI absolutely as it infects guns.

1161
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:52,720
Like so I'd mentioned, it infects cars, people in England kill with knives, you know, like

1162
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,200
people are, we do evil things.

1163
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,640
So, but don't, don't maim the, the tool.

1164
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,600
Sin, sin is the problem, not the tool.

1165
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,800
And we just really need to understand that.

1166
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:04,800
Amen.

1167
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:05,800
Amen.

1168
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,800
Absolutely.

1169
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,640
I, I, enough with the regulations, enough with more laws to prevent this law, to prevent

1170
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,240
that, like enough with that.

1171
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,920
Let's, let's hold ourselves accountable.

1172
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,680
Let's have some discipline for ourselves.

1173
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:25,040
You know, let's, let's look at us and say why, what is wrong with us that we believe that

1174
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,600
we need to be constrained in a certain way.

1175
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Well, if you feel like you need to be constrained, it's because we're doing maybe something wrong

1176
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,280
or something evil.

1177
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,160
If that's the case, stop doing it.

1178
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,120
Stop doing it or encourage others to stop doing it.

1179
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,320
I don't want another law or regulation telling me what I can and cannot do when it never

1180
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,320
even affected me.

1181
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,400
When I was someone that was doing it right.

1182
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,800
Someone who actually, again, I go back to the gun laws, someone who carries with responsibility.

1183
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:57,040
Someone who is not going to murder someone just for the heck of it.

1184
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:01,560
Stop hurting and punishing those who are actually doing good.

1185
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:02,880
I'm using AI you guys.

1186
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:03,880
I love it.

1187
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,000
Please don't screw that up for me.

1188
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,880
Please don't take AI and use it for bad and evil.

1189
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,360
I'm really enjoying it.

1190
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:15,400
I want to make more books and I need AI to help me edit these books.

1191
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,240
I don't want to have to hire someone to do it for me.

1192
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,720
So this, this is a great free tool.

1193
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,200
Please don't mess that up.

1194
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,960
If you do, go to church and ask Jesus to forgive you.

1195
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:25,960
Thank you.

1196
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,000
I love it.

1197
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,760
I love it.

1198
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:36,120
I hadn't thought about this in that way of with the gun laws.

1199
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,840
Makes sense, especially in conservative circles.

1200
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:45,560
Obviously, second amendment rights are one of the, if not the biggest concerns and conservative

1201
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:46,560
movements.

1202
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,240
I've thought of that.

1203
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,760
So I've mentioned before, in fact, I mentioned on the episode I had with you last time that

1204
01:07:53,760 --> 01:08:00,640
my wife and I, we've bought some land, got about 13 acres and we have enough land that

1205
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:06,680
we're able, we're planning on making a little shooting range out there and just kind of,

1206
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,400
just for fun.

1207
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,680
If you've never shot a gun, I know self protection, all the serious stuff.

1208
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,680
I get that.

1209
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:14,680
You need to be super safe.

1210
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:15,680
It's kind of fun.

1211
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:20,280
Like when you do it in safe ways and you've got a little shooting range set up.

1212
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,760
It's a fun thing.

1213
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:26,400
But anyways, all that being said, with regulations.

1214
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:34,880
So I went out and trigger warning to anybody that's this far in and is super concerned

1215
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,880
about gun stuff, I guess.

1216
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,560
But I bought an AR-15 a few years back.

1217
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:41,800
I've not shot it.

1218
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,600
It's actually underneath my bed, which you can't see this, but it's like two feet from

1219
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,480
me and I don't even have any ammo in the house.

1220
01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:52,880
I solely bought it because Biden told me not to.

1221
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,760
So then I bought it.

1222
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,120
This is kind of in my nature.

1223
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,120
I love it.

1224
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,120
Good for you.

1225
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:05,960
But since we have this land, I'm like, well, I had always wanted to get it ready to shoot

1226
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:06,960
anyways.

1227
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,280
It was like, we got enough land.

1228
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:13,520
I need to make sure to set it up safely, but that's a good place to kind of go out and

1229
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:14,520
play around.

1230
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,080
Well, I've not shot it yet.

1231
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:22,280
I've not shot one in general, but I know enough that they're like stupid loud.

1232
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:27,840
Like if you shoot one indoors without ear protection, it could be deaf the rest of your life loud,

1233
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,320
like really, really loud.

1234
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:37,560
And you can buy silencers for them, but for one that costs a decent chunk of money and

1235
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:43,200
then you have to be on this whole federal blah, blah, blah list where they it's not

1236
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,080
just like going and getting a background check for a normal firearm.

1237
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,040
It's quite a bit more extensive.

1238
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,600
And essentially what that does, and I still may get it eventually, but what that does

1239
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:59,200
is that stops me from potentially going and getting that.

1240
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:05,440
So now if I do go out there and do it, now I just get to bother all of my neighbors around

1241
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:09,840
me when I could have just gotten that and no big problem.

1242
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,680
And it would have been far less of a nuisance.

1243
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:18,000
And they have those laws because they don't want people going in there and shooting people

1244
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,720
up and blah, blah, blah.

1245
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,320
But clearly they're not doing a very good job of that, right?

1246
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:30,520
Like even if you are liberal, you would say that people are using these guns in appropriate

1247
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,520
ways.

1248
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,000
Absolutely they are.

1249
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,360
So you're preventing me from not making a nuisance.

1250
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,200
It's doing no good.

1251
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,280
It makes you feel good, I guess.

1252
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:49,400
But at least, by no means am I advocating for this by any means, at least I could somewhat

1253
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:54,800
understand where you might be coming from on a, we just need to get rid of all of them.

1254
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,800
Get rid of all guns.

1255
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:56,800
That's bad.

1256
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,280
Don't do that.

1257
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:07,480
But you stopping that kind of metal there on my gun to make it quieter, you're not doing

1258
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:08,480
anything.

1259
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:14,240
You're just annoying me and trying to put me on some federal, whatever, and basically

1260
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,000
give the government more money.

1261
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,240
That's just dumb.

1262
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:24,280
And we have, that's just one instance of so many, not just in guns, but in tax law and

1263
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:29,560
just everything, all these silly little things that you're not helping anybody.

1264
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,280
You're just making more bureaucracy.

1265
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,400
And I think that's their goal is to create more nuisance after nuisance after nuisance

1266
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:42,520
so that we get so annoyed that we just give up.

1267
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,080
Say forget it, then I just won't get one.

1268
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,640
And gun enthusiasts, newsflash, they're enthusiasts.

1269
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,040
They will still get them.

1270
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,000
They will work around it.

1271
01:11:54,000 --> 01:12:00,680
They will find loopholes where they can and they will just purchase what they can.

1272
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:08,200
We have guns and we abide by the law and I'm in California.

1273
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:13,080
There is every law under the sun to prevent me from having a gun.

1274
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:19,360
There is every, everything is thrown at me so that I don't get a concealed carry license.

1275
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,000
I still have a gun and I have my concealed carry license.

1276
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,560
I will still do it.

1277
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,880
You are not going to, I'm annoyed by it.

1278
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,200
That's for Dank, sure.

1279
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:34,160
It's a process, takes forever, so many classes, all these hours, my gun has to be right, it

1280
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,000
has to look right, it's a certain magazine, it can't be that magazine.

1281
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,280
It just nuance stuff.

1282
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,720
But I will still do it.

1283
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,760
I will still do it because it's my right and I should and I'm a female and I'm in California.

1284
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,000
It's not a safe place out here.

1285
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,600
It's my God.

1286
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,680
If you want to see hell, come on over.

1287
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,680
It's not pretty.

1288
01:12:54,680 --> 01:13:01,440
It is especially in LA and now where I'm even from is the Bay Area where I grew up.

1289
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:02,440
We escaped it.

1290
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:03,440
It was horrible.

1291
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:05,320
It just has gotten so bad.

1292
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,880
San Francisco, forget about it.

1293
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,440
I went to college up there and I would, I don't think I'll ever step foot there knowing

1294
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:13,600
everything that I know about what's happened to San Francisco.

1295
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,400
So it's my right and I will do it.

1296
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,400
You're absolutely right.

1297
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,040
They'll create all these regulations and make us be annoyed but we will still do it.

1298
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,160
You're doing nothing.

1299
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,680
You're doing nothing.

1300
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,320
You're making it just more difficult for me to get it but I'll still get it and so will

1301
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:32,880
the criminal.

1302
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:38,520
So will the person who will buy it from the streets and behind a back alley from someone's

1303
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:39,520
truck.

1304
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:40,880
They will still do that.

1305
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,600
You're not, these laws are not hurting them.

1306
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,000
They're hurting me.

1307
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,680
The good person that wants to just protect herself.

1308
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,680
The criminal will still be a criminal.

1309
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:51,680
We'll still be a criminal.

1310
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,680
We'll still be a criminal.

1311
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,840
You can throw at them whatever you want.

1312
01:13:54,840 --> 01:14:00,560
It will not make it harder for them to get a gun and they know this.

1313
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,000
They just want this law.

1314
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,040
They hate the Second Amendment.

1315
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:11,120
They know that once that's gone, they have full control and that's what they're hoping

1316
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:17,360
for and they, I usually don't mean the deep state when I say they, I fully believe in

1317
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:18,360
the deep state.

1318
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:19,360
So yes.

1319
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:20,360
Yeah.

1320
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,200
Well, again, bureaucracy.

1321
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:28,960
There's a ton of that and it is local too.

1322
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:38,160
Now it's certainly on the federal scale, it's a lot deeper but there's things locally,

1323
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:44,480
even in your city hall, there's bureaucracy there too.

1324
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:48,160
It's just they're a little bit more limited in what they can do than some of the federal

1325
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,160
bureaucracy.

1326
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,720
That's what's interesting.

1327
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:57,800
We talked about this last episode too that I'm in pretty red area of a very red state

1328
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:02,640
so we're very conservative here and compared to what So What has had to go through, I'm

1329
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,880
super grateful for that.

1330
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:05,000
So don't get me wrong.

1331
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,200
I love where I'm at.

1332
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:12,280
Literally I could live anywhere in the world right now for my occupation and I don't want

1333
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,280
to be any walls.

1334
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,280
So don't get me wrong.

1335
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:19,480
I rail on conservative Oklahoma because I love it so much.

1336
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:26,600
But even here, so it's been about three-ish years, something like that since we've had

1337
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,680
open carry here in Oklahoma.

1338
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,320
And when it first started coming out, we're like, oh my gosh, we're going to be Wild Wild

1339
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,320
West.

1340
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,160
You're going to go to Walmart and have all these draws happen and it's just going to

1341
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,400
be nuts.

1342
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:47,920
And since then, and I'm sure somebody might listen to this and like, oh, well actually

1343
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,160
the stats blah, blah, blah have gone up so much.

1344
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,160
I don't know.

1345
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,160
Maybe that's true.

1346
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,040
I'm not really taking the time to look that up.

1347
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,560
What I will say is public sentiment.

1348
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,000
Nobody talks about it.

1349
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,000
Nobody.

1350
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,640
It's just everyday life.

1351
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,760
Now I've seen maybe, and I'm sure it's been more than that.

1352
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:12,600
I just haven't noticed it and that's part of it is it's just kind of everyday life now.

1353
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:19,680
I've noticed it maybe a handful of times in like public type of settings where I didn't

1354
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,400
know the person.

1355
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:26,320
And most of it's like, oh, well that's a really pretty 1911 he's got there.

1356
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,080
Like that's kind of the extent of it.

1357
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,880
Nobody's pulling it out or anything like that.

1358
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:39,600
And me personally, honestly, if I'm carrying a firearm, I don't care about the legalities

1359
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:40,920
of it.

1360
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,800
I care more of the tacticality of it.

1361
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,280
I don't actually want to open carry.

1362
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:51,160
I'd rather it be a little bit more concealed because then the baddies aren't going to take

1363
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,120
me out first because they see that there.

1364
01:16:54,120 --> 01:17:00,320
So I don't even want to open carry, but I don't think the government should be telling

1365
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,360
me what I can't do.

1366
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:08,120
But anyways, I say all that to say that in the few years time period public sentiment,

1367
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:14,920
it's just not really there because it's happened and people aren't dying left and right.

1368
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:19,000
We're not having fire fights left and right.

1369
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,560
People have realized, oh, it's Oklahoma.

1370
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,080
We've always been conservative.

1371
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,520
They already had their guns.

1372
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,760
Now they just don't need the paperwork to show it.

1373
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:28,760
Okay.

1374
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,520
Let's just keep going on with our life.

1375
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,920
And that would happen in California.

1376
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:39,320
Now granted, you're going to have the Antifa fights and all the crazy things that California

1377
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:46,760
has, but that's part of why too, a place like California won't do what we do here is you're

1378
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,240
not going to give the public sentiment a chance to change.

1379
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:56,800
Because if you had open carry and life went on as normal, that's bad for business.

1380
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:01,000
Now people aren't as scared and we can't pass all these insane rules.

1381
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,600
So they just don't want you to do that.

1382
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:04,600
No, they don't.

1383
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:05,600
Keep us in fear.

1384
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,240
You can keep us in control.

1385
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,240
Absolutely.

1386
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:09,240
Absolutely.

1387
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,240
Yes.

1388
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:19,120
Well, so I love talking to you for many reasons, but I love getting into some of all of these

1389
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:24,360
side conversations, little behind the scenes, usually for guests.

1390
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:29,240
And for so its first time, I have just sample questions.

1391
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,440
And I always tell my guests that I never go one by one.

1392
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:37,800
I like natural conversation, but I didn't even do it this time with Soad because I knew

1393
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,760
how the dynamics would go.

1394
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,040
And I love kind of the free flowing conversation.

1395
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:48,920
But I want everybody listening to this to check out Soad's journal.

1396
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:55,920
It's a wonderful idea because I about guarantee that either you could benefit or if you are

1397
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:01,520
a journaling expert, I bet you there's somebody you know that could benefit.

1398
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:06,760
Maybe it's that niece or nephew or your son or daughter or whoever it may be.

1399
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,520
I think that you could really benefit from checking it out.

1400
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:15,040
So Soad, for those that want to get the journal or want to stay in contact with you, how can

1401
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,320
they find those things from you?

1402
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,560
Thank you for those awesome words, Johnny.

1403
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:19,560
I appreciate that.

1404
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,120
And first, I just want you to know, I love talking to you too.

1405
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:24,120
It's so nice.

1406
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,040
I've done a lot of natural conversation.

1407
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:31,120
I've done a couple of podcasts now and I not to knock the other ones, they're great.

1408
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,720
But I just feel comfortable with you.

1409
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:38,720
I think it's because you and I have the group in common and we chit chat there as well.

1410
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,200
And we just see things eye to eye.

1411
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,600
And it's just a natural way of talking.

1412
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:45,600
I love that.

1413
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,680
So thank you for inviting me back.

1414
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,800
If you want to get the journal, the best place to go is just my website.

1415
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,520
There's a link right there that takes you to Amazon.

1416
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,760
You purchase it from Amazon.

1417
01:19:53,760 --> 01:20:01,120
So add to Breezy, my first and last name, S-O-A-D-T-A-B-R-I-Z-I dot com.

1418
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,160
It'll be right there on that front page for you.

1419
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,600
It says journals launched.

1420
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,600
Click on that.

1421
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,560
And it takes you to Amazon and you can purchase it from your own account.

1422
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,920
It takes a couple of days to get to you and that's it.

1423
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,560
So that's the best way to do it.

1424
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,760
Spread the word and you're right.

1425
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:23,360
If you already journal and you have your millions of journals like I do, buy it and give it

1426
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:24,360
to someone who doesn't.

1427
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,080
And you know, buy it and give it to someone who you're like always talking about journaling

1428
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,920
too and they're looking at you like you're weird.

1429
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,720
Get those for them and be like, hey, here, try this, start, start this way.

1430
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:39,600
That's a great tool and I can't wait to start the other ones and get those out to you guys

1431
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,600
as well.

1432
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,680
So thank you for having me and letting me share this.

1433
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:44,680
Absolutely.

1434
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,920
So yeah, I'll include all of that information down in the show notes.

1435
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,600
So thanks again so much for being here.

1436
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,920
And you know, let me know whenever these new journals launch and we'll probably do this

1437
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:00,360
again and have another conversation about deep state and gun rights and all that fun

1438
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,360
stuff too.

1439
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,360
My favorite.

1440
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,360
Thank you, Johnny.

1441
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:05,360
Absolutely.

1442
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,320
And thank you to everyone else that tuned in today.

1443
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,760
I really appreciate your support and listening to another episode of Faithfully Engaged.

1444
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:22,920
You guys take care.