1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 All right. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:17,920 Hello and welcome to Invertecas. 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,400 I am Leah from Torrentia Leah. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,280 As always, I have Simon from Lomantis Garden. 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,280 Hello, Simon. 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,280 Hello. 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,280 How's it going? 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Oh, it's good. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:34,520 I actually have kind of a little like cold, 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,520 hot kind of thing going on. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,880 So if my voice sounds kind of wonky, that's why. 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,520 But thankfully I have a voice. 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:47,400 So I was struggling to say, hey, then just like five minutes before you started, I was 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,960 turning off because I couldn't hear you. 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,960 So the volume got so. 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,960 Oh, geez. 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,960 Okay. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,960 Okay. 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Yeah. 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:02,040 I'm not sure if you guys have heard it, but yeah, no, it's, you know, the, the, the 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,880 ick is going around here in the, in the States. 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,720 I don't know about over there, but I'm sure you guys have your ick. 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,720 Oh yeah. 24 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,240 You know, I hate it when that happens, but. 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:19,160 I'd wait until my wife to lose her voice again. 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,160 She watching, she knows you say that. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,760 No, luckily she's got, she's got out. 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,280 She normally makes a cup of tea when we start and brings it up, you see, slide it in the 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,280 side here. 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Oh. 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,320 I can say that I'm safe at the moment. 32 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:34,320 For now, right? 33 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:35,320 Yeah. 34 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:37,760 So it's over and then I'm in trouble. 35 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,400 All right. 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:46,520 So this week we are talking about a really cool topic that last time we talked about 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,880 it, don't think we really gave it a lot. 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:57,040 We didn't really get into the scientific side of everything, but it is the best podcast 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,640 topic for this podcast. 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:10,800 And that would be isopod or the order of isopoda. 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:19,520 And of course I have, I have a couple of my personal like colonies of isopods with me. 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,360 So I will show you guys that here. 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,920 Let me get them configured and you know, but this. 44 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:34,360 I didn't bother tracking any, I got like 70 species here and I didn't bother tracking 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,160 any down because I thought, let me have to see them. 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,200 They are very small, obviously. 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,880 I mean, at least at least these species are small and we're going to get into that. 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:53,840 We're going to get into the species of isopods and kind of what they are, what they look 49 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,320 like, all of that funness. 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,120 Let's say I'm going to turn this kind of walkie. 51 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Sorry about that. 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:06,200 But here, these guys like to hang out underneath all this sphagnum else I have. 53 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:12,640 I don't know if y'all can see, but they are right there. 54 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:20,320 So these are, these are the dairy cow species, which I believe are. 55 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,320 I have a red duck. 56 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,320 Yeah, they're an armadilidium. 57 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,000 No, that's not enough, right? 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,880 That's not even a big scanty cow. 59 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,920 Oh, see, and I don't know. 60 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:37,120 I feel bad that I don't know all the scientific names. 61 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,600 I feel a little bit of a pain in the ass. 62 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,800 I can't really hear it now. 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,080 Now you're punched out. 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,840 We shouldn't talk about frogs, actually. 65 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:59,400 Well, I actually used to have a job that my froggy voice when I got sick was a good thing. 66 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,400 But we won't mention that. 67 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,400 But yeah, here we go. 68 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,800 So I think it's kind of a good view of these little guys. 69 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,600 They like to hide mostly. 70 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,760 So I will talk about that. 71 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,120 So let's talk about these guys. 72 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:24,960 I took lots of notes about them, but unfortunately, I couldn't find any folklore or mythology 73 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,840 about them, which is kind of odd. 74 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:32,280 Because most things do have some kind of folklore. 75 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:36,120 But no, I didn't find any of that. 76 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,200 But I did find plenty of wonderful scientific information about these guys. 77 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,880 So isopods, like I said, are from the order Isopoda. 78 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:54,520 And there is estimated to be about 10,000 species of known isopods. 79 00:04:54,520 --> 00:05:04,480 They're one of the most morphologically diverse of all the crustacean groups. 80 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,960 So these guys aren't necessarily insects. 81 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,080 They're actually crustaceans. 82 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:19,040 And they range in all sorts of sizes from micrometers to about a half meter in length. 83 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,320 They live pretty much everywhere on Earth. 84 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,960 I don't know if we've actually found any on Antarctica, but I wouldn't be surprised because 85 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,920 these guys are just that adaptable. 86 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,040 But they definitely also live in the deep sea. 87 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,480 So another really cool, interesting thing about these guys. 88 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,320 But it also kind of makes sense because they're crustaceans. 89 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:50,600 And we can definitely do an episode about crustaceans and exactly what that means. 90 00:05:50,600 --> 00:06:03,960 But they're actually essentially related to lobsters and crabs and those kinds of critters. 91 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,920 So fascinating stuff. 92 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,120 Let's see. 93 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,680 So I found a lot about their anatomy. 94 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:21,640 And I'm trying to find a little guy here that I can get out of this colony to show them 95 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,680 and get to the mansion. 96 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,680 Yes. 97 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Because there's so there's so. 98 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,480 Yeah, hopefully, right? 99 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,680 No, they're all different amounts of lungs. 100 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,880 They're not actually lungs. 101 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,520 They don't actually have lungs. 102 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,520 They have what are called. 103 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Yeah, exactly. 104 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,520 And Pseudotrachea. 105 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:52,360 So being that they are so small, I don't think I'm going to be able to show you exactly 106 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,520 what that looks like. 107 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:59,920 But I got the largest terrestrial ice core here. 108 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,520 Oh, cool. 109 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:09,120 So I might get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little 110 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,320 bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit 111 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:20,200 of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of... 112 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,480 Yeah, that would be really, really cool. 113 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,520 It's weird to try. 114 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,820 I wouldn't even know what to look like for the. 115 00:07:26,820 --> 00:07:28,780 just from the arms look. 116 00:07:28,780 --> 00:07:36,960 Like it looks like if you've got four, it looks like white shephoons are, they're rear end, 117 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,280 shall I say? 118 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Okay, okay. 119 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Good to know. 120 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:46,360 on moss, damp moss, and they'll put the back on there. They're actually breathing. 121 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Oh, wow. 122 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:57,960 That's amazing because the ones that live in the oceans, in the oceans, they actually do 123 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:05,800 also breathe, but it's like a gas exchange, and they use their pleopods for that. So they have a 124 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:11,800 specific organ that allows them to do a gas exchange while they're underwater. 125 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,800 But same with the land dwelling guides, they actually can do the same thing. So 126 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:26,200 even if they do find their way into some place that's really, really wet or just full of water, 127 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:32,440 they can still do a gas exchange and be just fine, which is really fascinating. 128 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:40,840 I think, dude, isopods are pretty amazing. I love them, and I'm going to show you guys my 129 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:48,760 favorite species that I have in my personal collection here, which is the hubarus species 130 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:56,440 panda king. These guys are really, really cute, and I think that's probably what draws people 131 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:05,800 to isopods to begin with lately, maybe, is that they are just so cute. But they're also really 132 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:12,920 interesting creatures. Let's see if I can get... There we go. Maybe a decent... Oh, okay, that works. 133 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:20,680 Me and my crazy angles. But anyhow, these guys are the panda kings, and they're really, really cool 134 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:28,520 because they look like little tiny pandas if pandas were bugs. So let's see, let me see if I can 135 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:36,600 grab one. These guys are also... They can roll into little balls, just like this little guy has, 136 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:43,960 but... And then they open right back up, and he's added again. Yeah, but you can see the coloration 137 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,000 on him. No, no, conglopation. That means if the conglopate is rolling up into a bowl. 138 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:56,840 Yeah, globalization is... I've found the term to be globalization, but I think the... 139 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Yeah, it's conglopate. Yeah. 140 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:09,800 That's awesome. So yeah, so these are... This is what the little panda king guys look like, and 141 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,680 I really like them. They are just... They're really cool, and as you can see, they can 142 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:25,320 stick to you, like Ian, turn them upside down. So yeah, really cool part of these, but I think 143 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:31,720 I dropped it. That's okay. Hopefully you guys can kind of see my little colony here. There's quite 144 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:41,400 a few. They're all in here. But okay, so what makes an isopod an isopod? You might be asking. 145 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:49,480 You might be asking. So all isopods have two pairs of antennae, compound eyes, and four sets of jaws. 146 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:57,640 So if we were to essentially look at their little faces really, really, really close up, 147 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:04,120 they're actually a lot scarier looking than what we think, because we just see these cute little 148 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:11,720 pill bugs, and we think, oh, they're adorable, but microscopically, they are terrifying. So there's 149 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:23,320 that. I mean, four pairs of jaws, that's just... It sounds amazing. Their body is called the perion, 150 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:31,400 and it consists of seven segments, and a short abdominal section with six segments called pleons, 151 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:41,320 and each pleon has a set of biramus limbs, or basically bipedal limbs, called pleopods, 152 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:49,160 and they use those for swimming and breathing and moving around, essentially. Half of the 153 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:57,400 known species of isopods actually live in the ocean. So of all the species of isopods that we have 154 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:03,400 here on land, like these little guys that we could breed and have, the only half of these 155 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:12,120 creatures live on land, essentially. And of course, it's the oceans. We've only explored 5%, 156 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,720 which means that there's probably a ton more species of isopods that we just don't even... 157 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:29,560 We haven't even discovered or learned about yet. We've only identified this just around 500 158 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:37,160 in freshwater as well. Oh, see, and that's why I keep you around, Simon. Just kidding. 159 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:47,720 There's approximately 400,000 in the sea marine and 500 freshwater, and just over 5,000 identified 160 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:55,080 terrestrial ones. The big thing is the identified part of this, because they've discovered more than 161 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:03,960 that. But they have officially written it down in a book to say that's what we're going to call it. 162 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:10,440 So that's the other thing, the ones you've got there. Now, pandakins. Pandakins is not the proper 163 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:16,440 name. No, they're not described. It's because there isn't a proper name. It's just tubaris, 164 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,800 something's going to be done in the future. So let's call them the things. And that's... 165 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:27,960 I find this an interesting thing, because I find it becoming a bit of a problem because of the hobby. 166 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:38,200 People are starting to love isopods, and we haven't even got a name yet for them. 167 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:47,400 People are getting used to this habit going of calling things by a common name. 168 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,560 If you do get a proper name, it's going to be a real struggle to remember what it is. 169 00:13:54,280 --> 00:14:02,120 It's going to be like, oh, looks like a game. Sorry, carry on. No, no, you're fine. 170 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,880 Simon, you know I love your input. I appreciate it so much. 171 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,320 I know I can do things normally. 172 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:15,080 They're wonderful, but I totally agree with you. I think that happened with tarantulas as well. 173 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:22,120 And that's also kind of what caused that big old confusion with the kilobrochies that in the 174 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:32,760 quorum, which formerly was known as the kilobrochies species electric blue. And it finally was described. 175 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,160 And all these people were like, oh, it's a newly discovered. And it's like, no, 176 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:43,880 they finally wrote it down. They finally just studied it. It's been discovered since like the late 1800s. 177 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:53,640 There's a lot of animals and books to get around to, I suppose, but they're not very quick at doing it, 178 00:14:53,640 --> 00:15:00,600 are they? You've got to be fair there. They're a bit on the slow side, pulling the finger out and saying, 179 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:10,600 yeah, let's do 10 this week. Let's do one over four years. That's more of the view on it. 180 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:18,600 I know they have to dice it. Absolutely everything. 181 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,840 I think it's because there's just not enough entomologists or arachnologists or something. 182 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:30,840 I don't know what the problem is. It's money. It's money. 183 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Like the three search themselves needs funding. Back in the day when people were finding things and 184 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:43,880 maybe things willy nilly, it was normally, if you look back at the people like Darwin and 185 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:50,840 and and Linnaeus, they're all family money. And they paid for it. They paid for everything. 186 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:57,160 They paid for the travel, the paper collecting, the time, the paper, the research. 187 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:03,320 Whereas now, everything's done in universities. We only trust people if you've got a PhD. 188 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,920 So if you can't write a paper, nobody's going to pay attention to you. 189 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:15,480 I think that's extremely wrong because I've read so many papers and they've been wrong. 190 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,760 Yeah. Well, it's so elitist kind of like, you know, because here the 191 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:30,520 It's stupidity. When you're collecting things, under a microscope, turn off, carry on. You do that. 192 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:36,920 But the other stuff, pretty much anybody with a magnifying glass can identify something. 193 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,160 You know, I can't fix. It's just really irritating when they 194 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,000 stamp on the feet and say, no, you've not been to university. 195 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,200 I've got the green entomology or my ecology or whatever it is. 196 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,480 And that's it. You can't do it. That's so unfair. 197 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:03,000 Right. No, I definitely agree. I mean, I think it was a little easier for Darwin 198 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,640 because there wasn't such things that like it wasn't wasn't really known. 199 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,160 You know what I mean? Like the whole university, they had universities, 200 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:20,440 but universities weren't the same as they are now. And now that like 201 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:29,000 that whole spectrum of things has changed. Uh oh, here comes my menace. Sorry. But that whole 202 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:37,320 spectrum of like the universities and titles and doctrines and all of that like has changed so much 203 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:44,920 that, you know, a peer reviewed paper literally means that it came like you said from those 204 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:51,560 universities that, you know, that's how you get that recognition, which I also agree that that's 205 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:58,280 not super fair to folks like us who, you know, we really do care about the inverts, but we, 206 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,880 I don't know about you, but I can't afford a university degree anymore. 207 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:08,680 I could once, I can't no more. I think that's a little bit for this reason. 208 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:19,080 And then I thought, I'm just too old. You know, I mean, I just enjoy them. I'll do my own research. 209 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:27,640 Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately for me to become an arachnologist actually doesn't require a degree 210 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:34,120 from a university. I mean, it helps to have like a biology degree or like an entomology or whatever. 211 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,920 But essentially, because I looked it up essentially to be an arachnologist, you just need to know 212 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:51,640 your stuff and have some experience with arachnids. So yeah, just that experience and having a good, 213 00:18:51,640 --> 00:19:01,560 a good vast of knowledge, reading lots and lots of arachnid books. And that's kind of where that 214 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:08,200 goes. So technically, if I really wanted to, I could call myself an arachnologist. But I don't, 215 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:14,920 because, you know, I'm still learning, like I'm always learning. So. So if that makes you feel 216 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:23,000 better, exactly. They don't know everything. No, no one knows anything for sure. I agree. 217 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,520 I'm going to say one thing. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life have been teachers 218 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:37,480 and students and university lecturers. Some of the dumbest people ever. So there's always hope 219 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:47,640 for everybody else. Something to be said about book smarts, book smarts versus, you know, common 220 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:54,520 sense smarts or street smarts, you know, I think I'm one of those very lucky, lucky people that I 221 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:03,400 am talented at both. So I don't know. Don't hate, don't hate the player, hate the game. Okay. 222 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:14,680 So isopods are interesting. They actually play a really important role in soil and keeping the 223 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:22,760 soil and like the dirt and the ground basically fertile. And same with the oceans. They also 224 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:28,760 play a role in the oceans is to keeping the water and the ground under water and stuff 225 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:37,400 that are basically clean of like fungus and like rotting carcasses and debris and that kind of 226 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:47,320 thing. Because that's what they eat. They eat algae, plant, and animal fungal material on land, 227 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:53,080 which is known as taxon. So that's, or no, that's what they do. And then they are also 228 00:20:53,080 --> 00:21:01,560 prey items for like larger inverts like spiders, centipedes, you know, stuff like that. 229 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:12,680 Furs, I believe. Yeah, well, I mean, they're not the best source of nutrition for any of them. 230 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:19,000 But they do play a little bit of nutritional like value for some animals. 231 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:29,880 And then the marine isopods, algae, diatoms, live vegetation, wood and dead animal flesh. 232 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:36,760 So that's pretty, pretty fascinating. So they're basically a lot of people in like the tarantula 233 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:43,160 hobby or I know some people in the reptile hobby will use isopods and springtails together 234 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:51,080 as what they call a cleanup crew. But I gotta say that if you're only using isopods and springtails 235 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:58,200 and you're not bringing in the other cleanup crews like done beetles or millipedes, you know, 236 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:03,720 like earthworms and stuff, then you're really doing a disservice to your bioactive because 237 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:10,600 that's not, you're only going to get like half of the picture, if you will. 238 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:16,760 Interesting stuff. But we look, that's a whole nother topic. That's a whole nother thing. 239 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:22,760 And I actually believe that there's a whole nother podcast that talks all about bioactive. 240 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,680 If it wasn't for isopods, I think we'd all have a lot more disease around. 241 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,200 Oh, absolutely. 242 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:34,520 We've been so here in death leaves. So yeah, always like the isopods. 243 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,520 Yeah, I guess. 244 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Yeah, you look at you look at awesome. The leaves all come down in the forest. 245 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,280 And when it gets to spring, they've all vanished. And all you see is little skeletons, not 246 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:53,720 sight of both evening and millipedes. So, you know, they just pile up on each of the rocks 247 00:22:54,440 --> 00:23:00,040 and save the dead carcasses and the other things that he eats because he eats poop as well. So 248 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,880 yeah, you have a lot of that hanging around. 249 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:13,480 They do. Yeah. No, it's a I'm actually, yeah, it's a grateful thing for sure to that they exist. 250 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,760 And that's that's what they do. 251 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Really important species to the ecosystem. 252 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,000 Have you read for a while? 253 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:30,120 Yes, absolutely. Okay, so another cool thing about isopods is that they have a lot of nicknames. 254 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:37,800 So those of us in the hobby, like the M love inverts and stuff, we know them as isopods. 255 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:45,000 But in all actuality, they have all sorts of names like here in the States, they're called pill bugs or 256 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:54,520 the Roly-Polys, Woodlows, all sorts of, you know, stow bugs, stuff like that. 257 00:23:54,520 --> 00:24:00,520 And I know that in the UK, there are a few really, really interesting nicknames. Would you 258 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,760 care to enlighten us on some of those? 259 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:11,960 We've got in England alone, this is without Scotland, Ireland, Wales, we've got over 300 names for isopods 260 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,600 in different localities. I grew up calling them Woodlice. 261 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,440 Woodlice, yeah. 262 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,440 Which is standard because that's exactly what they are. 263 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,400 Yeah. 264 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,760 I've only said that's a Woodlice, so yeah, this is a Woodlice forever. 265 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000 But if you come down the road, they're cheeky wigs. 266 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,840 And it's like, I can come up with that. 267 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,440 It's a cheeky wig. 268 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,040 Cheeky wig, yeah. 269 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,520 Yeah. 270 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,320 A bumble bobby. 271 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,160 Oh, there's so many of them. 272 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:49,400 Now you put me on the spot, I think, then I get that really heard the term pill bug. 273 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,200 And I start kicking them. 274 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,480 Because as a kid, we never called them pill bugs. 275 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,600 All sound bugs. 276 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,200 It was just all Woodlice. 277 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,120 Yeah. 278 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,800 I think for me, when I was a kid growing up, we only called them Roly Polys. 279 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:16,280 So again, that term pill bug, I learned that later, doing research and stuff, 280 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,560 being a part of a hobby, a lot of people do call them pill bugs. 281 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,520 I was like, were you talking about pill bugs? 282 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,480 Like, what is that? 283 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,840 And come to find out, I'm calling them Roly Polys. 284 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:29,480 Because that's what they are. 285 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320 You get some weird question. 286 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,200 I mean, I died here, obviously, because I sound a little weird. 287 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,400 What kind of cheeky wigs have you got, for instance? 288 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,360 You're like, what? 289 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,200 Cheeky wigs. 290 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,960 And all 300, you know what I'm saying, there's still a lot out there that I have no idea what they are. 291 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,800 And it's just these silly little localised nicknames. 292 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,280 North America has about five or six different names in that alone. 293 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,640 You know, and they're all dotted around the country and all these different weird, 294 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,880 strange and wonderful names. 295 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:12,680 I've actually done a video on it, I support a while back, and I listed about 20 or 30 of them, 296 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,160 from the bubble screen that I thought was most interesting. 297 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:23,800 But as I never used them day to day, and I've only read them once, I can't really answer you. 298 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,880 There was a paper on it, actually. 299 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,040 We've listed that. 300 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,800 Because we have that many nicknames from them. 301 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:43,160 They found it so interesting, it was worth visiting the entire UK, writing down what people called icepots. 302 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,800 That's so fascinating. 303 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Like, I love that there's just so many nicknames for one little thing. 304 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:58,680 And, you know, it just goes to show that they are, like I said, they're incredibly diverse. 305 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,920 They're adaptive. 306 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,840 They live everywhere on earth, like there's not a place you can go that you won't find a pill bug. 307 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,120 And they're, or a roly-poly or an isopod, you know. 308 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:17,320 Do you know what isopod means? 309 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,320 Say what? 310 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,480 Do you know what isopod means? 311 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,880 No, I don't, actually. 312 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,840 I saw it as equal. 313 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Equal? 314 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,200 Equal. 315 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,080 So, holder, feet, so equal, footed. 316 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,920 Oh, wow. 317 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,240 Yeah. 318 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:37,880 So that's the meaning. 319 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Say, icepots, equal footed. 320 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,480 So you've got the two Greek areas, not lacking for a change. 321 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,680 Yeah, right. 322 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Yeah. 323 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,440 So, yeah, that's exactly what it means. 324 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,000 Let's start with a QI thing. 325 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,320 So it is, yeah, equal feet. 326 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:53,880 That's what it means. 327 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Wonderful. 328 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,400 Oh, thanks, Simon. 329 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,040 I appreciate that. 330 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,320 Because I was wondering too. 331 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:04,920 I was like, why can't I find the root language of isopod or isopoda? 332 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,240 But it's sure enough. 333 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,320 This is what I may have to do. 334 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,520 Podcast on Latin and Greek. 335 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,120 Yes, we do. 336 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,040 You're going to love that one, though. 337 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,440 Oh, I mean, yeah. 338 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Like the language behind invertebrates is fascinating all on its own. 339 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,400 So I definitely agree, I think an episode is due for that. 340 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:29,640 Yeah. 341 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,440 I mean, a lot of them you can split them all. 342 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,240 I'm just going to go, I can't see anyone. 343 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,120 I've got two lights here. 344 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:36,840 I can't see anyone. 345 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,680 Just see boxes with labels. 346 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,280 I can't see the labels anyway. 347 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:42,440 But yeah. 348 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,560 I'll put it on the top of my head. 349 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,920 I mean, there's like loads of like Amethylaidium maculatum, 350 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,360 for instance, which is what everybody calls that, a separate. 351 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,320 The zebra. 352 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Yeah, the zebra isopod. 353 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,000 Yeah. 354 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 That's another one that annoys me because everybody calls it a zebra. 355 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,160 Even I do. 356 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,600 I found myself doing that. 357 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,200 I told so many customers of Wodman. 358 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,360 I found it's impractical, I would say, maculatum. 359 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,080 Yeah, because they won't know. 360 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,920 Because they know I didn't want them talking about it. 361 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,160 Yeah. 362 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:11,960 Yeah. 363 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,840 I put it on the label when I send it. 364 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,160 So we actually do have the proper name. 365 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,120 But nobody seems to know half of them. 366 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,480 And yeah, it's really, I think I suppose, 367 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,640 are really one of the easiest to learn. 368 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,200 Absolutely. 369 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,720 It's not got self-explanatory names, and it's really easy to learn. 370 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,800 That's what you're saying, and easy to learn. 371 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,560 Unlike the other companies and sliders and stuff, like Tongue Twisters, 372 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:54,040 with these guys, somebody who is in charge of naming them all is doing a good job. 373 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Keep it on simple. 374 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520 I can just read them and go, yeah, that's such a thing. 375 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:04,040 I can work it out as well because we're doing the Latin and Greek sort of thing. 376 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,560 I can split it up, and I know what it actually means. 377 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,840 So I just see a name. 378 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:15,800 It was put in New Zealand actually with maculatum because maculatum means too spotted. 379 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:23,640 Which is a bit off because it's right there, but there you go. 380 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,320 Bye. 381 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,240 Well, is that a question? 382 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,120 No, it's Bud Corner UK. 383 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Jason wants to say hello, Simon. 384 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,040 Oh, hello, Jay. 385 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,720 I can't see the chat, mate, so I don't say hello. 386 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:49,880 I can definitely see the chat because Lily was also saying that you can't see the screen. 387 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,640 So I think there was a little bit of controversy there. 388 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,960 So I decided, okay, well, I can highlight that. 389 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,160 No worries. 390 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,720 I can't see anyone. 391 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,360 I don't know what he says. 392 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,920 If anybody's got any questions about Ice Pogs, then now it's the time to talk them in. 393 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,360 And if you're on the spot, why not? 394 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,880 Oh, and look, it's your old folks who are coming to YouTube and subscribe so we get some more people on YouTube. 395 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,120 Yes, absolutely. 396 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,400 You know, the YouTube, I don't know. 397 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:30,920 I think a lot of people really enjoy listening to the podcast once it's all produced and edited. 398 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,840 Because I do kind of go through and edit and break down the stuff. 399 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:42,200 And sometimes we have little moments of like just silence or dead space. 400 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,960 So I cut that out. 401 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,440 So I make it a little more like commercial. 402 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,120 I don't talk enough. 403 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,360 Yes, you talk. 404 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,960 Well, you know what? 405 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,800 Honestly, we both could talk more. 406 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:04,360 I mean, if you just said like, here's the touch paper, I could just walk along about all of that. 407 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,280 I mean, you never ever stop and you never ever go. 408 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,200 Oh, I know. 409 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,680 I know. 410 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,400 I'm the same way. 411 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Um, I did actually find some really cool, like interesting thing about Isopods, a specific species 412 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,240 known as the Blasthenomus. 413 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:34,040 And then the specific one is the Blasthenomus gigantius, which is a huge 414 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,680 isopod that, yes, it gets like 14 inches. 415 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,760 So that's a foot plus some. 416 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,800 And it lives in the, this one specifically lives in the Caribbean Sea. 417 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:54,760 And it, they, scientists obviously think that the gigantism of certain species, like once they 418 00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:04,520 live in that deep sea, it's an adaptation to the extreme pressures of the deep, deep ocean, essentially. 419 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:12,920 So I mean, once, dude, it, I mean, there was a huge controversy last year about the submarine 420 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,840 that went down to go check out Titanic. 421 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:23,800 Uh, and the Titanic, uh, basically crash site, like where it eventually ended up under underwater. 422 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:32,280 And so at that depth, which it was, I believe it was like a mile and a half down, 423 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:39,080 the one, even that deep, like the Mariana trench is close to six or seven miles. 424 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,280 It's six miles, right? 425 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,080 It's like six miles deep down. 426 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,920 So, and I forget exactly the, the feet or like the kilometers, but it's a lot. 427 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,840 It's like 13,000 somads. 428 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,320 Oh no, it's, it's a lot more than that. 429 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,120 It's, it's crazy amount of feet. 430 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:03,080 But in any case, once you get like a mile down, okay, we're talking 5280. 431 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,560 That's 5280 feet, you know, that's one mile down. 432 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:13,640 That's where the pressure really starts to kind of get intense. 433 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,520 Um, we can still manage to get a little deeper, but if you go much deeper than that, 434 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,200 that pressure is just too much. 435 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,640 And so that's the interesting thing about the Mariana trench as well is that, 436 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:32,520 no human has been in a manned, like submarine that has been able to go all the way to the bottom. 437 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,680 It's been an unmanned submarine. 438 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,920 So they've been able to send little like robotic machines down. 439 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,120 And I'm not sure if it got all the way down, but they've been able to send them down. 440 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,640 But if it, if there was a human being in that little machine, it wouldn't, 441 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,240 it wouldn't make it like if there's just no way, if the pressure is that intense. 442 00:34:54,120 --> 00:35:03,000 So, scientifically speaking, that's why the Blathenomus gigantius is as big as it is. 443 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:09,960 14 inches of isopod, because that's that adaptation to be able to withstand that pressure. 444 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,080 350 milliliters. 445 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,640 Wait, what? 446 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,480 350 milliliters by everybody else. 447 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,120 14 inch. 448 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,240 There it is. 449 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:22,920 Yeah, yeah. 450 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,480 There you go. 451 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,000 So, I only said that because she said a lot of people are listening in Indonesia. 452 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,880 So if you'd have gone 14 inch, you'll have to get the little thumbs out and start finding out what 453 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,440 an earth site. 454 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,280 So, I know I have to. 455 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,440 350 milliliters or 35 centimeters yet, 14 inch. 456 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,320 Yes. 457 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,200 Thank you for that. 458 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,560 Thank you so much, Simon. 459 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:52,120 See, this is why I love our podcast so much is because you give us the kilometers and the meters 460 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,200 and I bring the US stuff and that's, that's perfect. 461 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,920 We bring it all. 462 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,480 We've got it all. 463 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,080 We've got it all guys. 464 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:01,800 Don't cover. 465 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:16,120 I also wanted to talk about the fact that a lot of the marine species of isopods are parasitic. 466 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:25,000 And so there's a few species of fish that, you know, they will essentially attach underneath the gills 467 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,880 to the fish. 468 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,880 So the isopod will attach to the fish underneath the fish's gills. 469 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,840 And yeah, exactly. 470 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:44,040 And then so they're, they're parasitic and I also had to kind of dig for the information as to the oldest fossil 471 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,440 ever recorded of an isopod. 472 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:53,160 I'm 300 million years old, but there is one that actually lives on a fish's tongue as well, 473 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,160 which is disgusting. 474 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,280 It looks itself on some tongs, stays up for life. 475 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,000 That's free food though. 476 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,600 I mean, come on, it's smart. 477 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,080 It's smart. 478 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,440 I think that's why it does that. 479 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,040 Yeah, that's what it does. 480 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,400 It's all about food. 481 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,000 It's all about food and survival. 482 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,200 Yeah, absolutely. 483 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,080 Food and sex. 484 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:21,000 Basically everything and every rich of food and sex. 485 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,680 They're the only two that do what they do. 486 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,640 Yeah, for sure. 487 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,040 Oh, the bug world says, hello, Billy is here. 488 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,000 Well, hello, Billy. 489 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,480 Welcome to Inverticast. 490 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,320 Hello, whoever that was. 491 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,320 I'm speaking to Hera. 492 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,040 I might bright light now because the sun, the sun has just decided to come right up. 493 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,760 And then all of a sudden I can't see a thing. 494 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,400 I just put lights on and now that's his name. 495 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,560 And the sun is just beaming through this window in his face now. 496 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,280 Oh goodness. 497 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:01,000 Okay, so the oldest recorded fossil is 168 million years old. 498 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,560 And it's actually of the parasitic form of isopods. 499 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:13,400 So we can deduct from that bit of information that the parasitic form of isopods was the first, 500 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,360 probably the first evolution of them. 501 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,520 And then the ones that we get on land and stuff are kind of the secondary. 502 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,400 They came later. 503 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,560 Some physical ones on land though. 504 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:31,960 I mean, the marine ones are interesting, but I get a bit bored of them. 505 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,000 They're all a bit samey. 506 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,320 And I think it's because you can't have them in a box. 507 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,560 You know, and see them and grow them and breathe them and all the rest of them. 508 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,800 They're a bit, you know, sorry. 509 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,800 But yeah, right. 510 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,960 The two restful ones are fantastic. 511 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,000 I mean, because they're an excellent star three. 512 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,200 If you just want to get into books, for instance, I suppose brilliant for that. 513 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,800 They're fantastic. 514 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,280 Yeah. 515 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,880 There's a price range, isn't there? 516 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,240 There's a price range like next to nothing. 517 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:13,800 A few pounds or a few dollars for some species right up to 518 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,800 like ridiculous amounts to some absolutely ridiculous amounts of extensive isopods. 519 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,200 Yeah. 520 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,400 Well, that's a great thing. 521 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,360 You want to see, oh, I wonder if I can look after this book. 522 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,800 Well, that's a perfect. 523 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,200 Even get them at your garden. 524 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:35,240 I don't advise that because they're not to keep the ones you buy because if you do a certain environment and you take them out of their primitive world. 525 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:36,200 Yeah. 526 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,400 So it's, it's by the results going to be a lot of money. 527 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,280 So I suggest you buy them of some of these reading them. 528 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,760 Yeah. 529 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,920 Actually go to reputable readers. 530 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,640 Absolutely. 531 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,040 For instance, come and buy them for me. 532 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,600 All of them. 533 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,160 Yes. 534 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,200 I'm all. 535 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,000 All right. 536 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,400 No, just by yourself. 537 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,800 The breeder who's got some, is that it's helpful for little box. 538 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,000 Ask a lot of questions. 539 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,320 Ask a lot of people who's into the hobby. 540 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,760 Ask them the questions. 541 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,960 Ask them the questions. 542 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,000 Ask them the questions. 543 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,560 Ask the person you buy them off the questions. 544 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,360 Do do a little bit of research. 545 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,160 Right. 546 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,800 Because you don't want a reputable reader. 547 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,120 They're going to be able to answer your questions without any kind of hesitation. 548 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,160 You know what I mean? 549 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,600 And that brings us to. 550 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,360 Sorry, I'm over talking. 551 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,960 Oh, no, you're all right. 552 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,560 I don't know when you're starting to talk. 553 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,600 You see, I normally shut up when I can be starting to talk. 554 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,240 But I can have the ears then. 555 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:41,560 If the best person to ask is the person you buy them off. 556 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,920 And the best way to ask them is ask them how they keep theirs. 557 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,760 Because if they have got enough to sell, that means they're doing it right. 558 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,440 Right. 559 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,520 Rather than ask somebody or look at YouTube or another hobbyist. 560 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,920 Ask the person who's selling it. 561 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,080 They have to do many rights because it's got enough to sell. 562 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:11,240 That is really great information and actually the best advice I think I've ever heard. 563 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:12,440 I'm sorry. 564 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,240 For people. 565 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,720 And that goes for tarantulas. 566 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,120 That can go for mantises. 567 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,240 Not just isopods. 568 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:19,800 I agree. 569 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:25,240 Like if they've got enough of them to sell, then they're doing some right. 570 00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:26,200 They've got a few. 571 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:33,080 So, which also brings us to a really cool segue when you were talking about price points. 572 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:45,480 And like keeping isopods to my list of the five best isopods or best isopods to kind of start with. 573 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,680 Or to look for. 574 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,200 Or you know what I mean. 575 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,480 So if you're looking to get into isopods, these are the best. 576 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,840 You could start. 577 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,560 Because you've got no idea what I think I'm thinking here. 578 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,880 I've got my top five in my head. 579 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,200 Okay. 580 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,760 Well, we can. 581 00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,400 I would. 582 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,000 I'll let you do your best. 583 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,320 Do your best. 584 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:01,640 Okay. 585 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,880 I'll just say yes. 586 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,000 If it's on my list somewhere in my top five. 587 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,520 Sounds so the first. 588 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,000 So I'm going to go from one to five. 589 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,920 The first few are going to be like the easier species to keep. 590 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,520 And then the last couple are going to be the more challenging. 591 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,040 And so yeah, we'll see a few. 592 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,520 Yeah. 593 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,880 This is a good idea. 594 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,120 Okay. 595 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:34,280 So my number one, like easiest species to keep best beginner species overall is it was kind 596 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:41,320 of a mix between the armadilladum, maculodum, and the the dairy cow. 597 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,600 So both of those two. 598 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,360 So the zebras and the dairy cows. 599 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,800 I felt like those were the two that are like the best absolute best beginners because they're 600 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,760 super active. They're cute. 601 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,600 They're like black and white, you know, they will they will breed quickly. 602 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:06,200 So you'll get you'll have a colony that's large within two months or so. 603 00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:11,080 Which again is another really nice benefit of these guys. 604 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,520 So what do you think Simon? 605 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,080 Is that a yes? 606 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:14,280 That's a yes. 607 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,840 That's a yes. 608 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,960 Especially the dairy cows. 609 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,200 Yes. 610 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,800 Well, I'll come back to that. 611 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,240 I'm not going to be my number two, but. 612 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,440 Okay. 613 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,840 You squeeze two into one. 614 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,760 So yeah, come on. 615 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,160 All right. 616 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:34,680 So number two, my number two is the lava isopod or the Porta Porta shellio scaper. 617 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,480 These guys are a model black and a dark orange color. 618 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,800 Again, they're pretty active. 619 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:47,880 They don't they don't need a ton, but they do have a slightly different body shape than 620 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,680 the dairy cows and the zebras. 621 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:56,840 Um, they're very pretty to look at and they don't again, they don't take a whole lot of time 622 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,240 to produce that colony. 623 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:04,680 So what is it about two, two to three months and you should have a very active colony 624 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,200 so long as you're doing the right things. 625 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:08,360 Yeah. 626 00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,280 Is that is that a yes? 627 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:11,800 That's the yes. 628 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,840 Any Porta de Ostaiba, any of the maps really. 629 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,320 Awesome. 630 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:21,720 It's funny if you've got ghosts, you've got new cows, which is probably one you've not 631 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,080 heard of at all. 632 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:29,000 I think the same as the dairy cow, but it's a different way to spell that they're quite easy. 633 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,040 Okay. 634 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,880 Yeah, ghosts. 635 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,880 I don't know what you think here because I can't remember them all. 636 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,880 But yeah, any Pacellova is another excellent starter because they're really easy. 637 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,360 They do like protein more than the pallidium species. 638 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,880 So it's going to keep them. 639 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,800 Your get cricket is a road show. 640 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,440 Yeah. 641 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,520 So anything else that makes the day. 642 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,440 Yeah, absolutely. 643 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,440 Absolutely. 644 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,120 Okay. 645 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,240 So my number three. 646 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,840 Now these guys are a little more challenging for most people. 647 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,440 But they weren't quite as challenging for me as I thought they were going to be. 648 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,200 So that's why I put them at number three. 649 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,800 This would be the Cubaris species, Panda Kings. 650 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,880 These guys are stooped like I showed you them earlier in the podcast. 651 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,240 They are super cute. 652 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:24,680 They're colored like a panda. 653 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,880 So they have their front end is that black and then they've got the middle portion that's white. 654 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,960 And then the end portion of their bodies is black. 655 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000 So they definitely look like little pandas. 656 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,120 They do take some time to breed. 657 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:51,000 So if you get like a culture of about 10 or so of them, it's going to take at least three to four months or so before you start to see a lot of them coming around. 658 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,280 So you do have to be a little patient with them. 659 00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:57,320 But they are super active. 660 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,320 They're really, really cool. 661 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,320 And they roll into the little balls. 662 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,320 And that's how they got that cute nickname. 663 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,120 They roll with hollies. 664 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,120 My dog's not going to step over. 665 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,120 Sorry about that. 666 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:16,120 But yeah, so the Panda Kings, they will roll into that little famous rolly-poly ball as that defense mechanism. 667 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,240 And yeah, so that's my number three. 668 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:20,120 How's that? 669 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,120 Is that a yes or a no, Simon? 670 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,120 That's yes. 671 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,120 I think the other thing is, very easy to do. 672 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,120 The light and safety are slow. 673 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,120 I think that's a good thing. 674 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,120 They are slow. 675 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,120 I find that Panda Kings, it's my experience. 676 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:42,120 I like it a little drier than most species. 677 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,120 And they do like a lot of calcium and provide light and stowling if you can. 678 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:54,120 They're not too fussed about protein as much as stables and vagus. 679 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,120 But they're really cheap from now and again. 680 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,120 But yeah, that's really good advice. 681 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,120 The top five's coming along really well. 682 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,120 Wonderful. Thank you for that. 683 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,120 I appreciate it. 684 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:10,120 Okay, so my number four would be the Cubaris species rubber duckies. 685 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,120 These guys, they're super famous in the hobby right now. 686 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,120 Everybody wants the rubber duckies because they're so cute. 687 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,120 They literally look like little tiny rubber duckies. 688 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:28,120 They have kind of that black body and then their little face and their tail is that orange. 689 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,120 Or like yellow color. 690 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,120 So yeah, super cute. 691 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,120 They're not as easy to breathe. 692 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,120 They do take a while. 693 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,120 And so that's going to affect their price point. 694 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,120 I know here in the States, that's what affects the price point. 695 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,120 It's how long they take to breathe. 696 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:56,120 So these guys are definitely going to need close to four to five months before you're going to have a really healthy, stable colony. 697 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:02,120 Yeah, so how does that one? 698 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,120 I think they're easy. 699 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:12,120 But I wouldn't advise them simply because of the price. 700 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,120 Right, that price. 701 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,120 And that's why I put them. 702 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:26,120 I think they're actually more expensive than that. 703 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,120 I don't keep any of the really expensive ones because it's just quite much. 704 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,120 There's just a waste of space for me. 705 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,120 I want to be selling it. 706 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,120 I don't want to be on the shelf for three months. 707 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,120 Yeah, yeah. 708 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,120 They laugh a bit and then that starts again. 709 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:48,120 And the States, that's part of the fun of them is that they're so rare. 710 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:58,120 So when you do see them, you've got to snatch them up because again, they do take quite a long time to breathe and to basically colonize. 711 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:04,120 And so, yeah, here in the States, it's like $150 for a culture of 10. 712 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,120 Yeah. 713 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:12,120 So I was going to ask you that if they were just as expensive as the UK as they are here. 714 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,120 I think they're a little cheaper here. 715 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,120 Okay. 716 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,120 But you have lots of other options. 717 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,120 So that one to know. 718 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:32,120 There's lots of little groups you can join and get into and meet other obvious that have managed to grow a colony and they want to sell some. 719 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,120 They normally sell them a lot cheaper. 720 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,120 But typically is about our price actually. 721 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,120 So, you know, that's that's that's worth it. 722 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,120 But if you if you're sat out the last box, it's your first one. 723 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,120 I wouldn't advise it because if you fail, it's an expensive fail. 724 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,120 It is. 725 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:58,120 So, you know, whereas you're spending three pounds or $5 whatever among dairy cows, your first one. 726 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,120 And if they all died, you've made a mistake. 727 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:08,120 It's not. I mean, it's not there's but it's not costing you. 728 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,120 So, I'm going to disagree with your map. 729 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,120 I would avoid them but solely because of the price. They are easy. 730 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,120 Okay, no worries. 731 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:30,120 So, okay, so my last the last species that I have on my list or the number five, which I probably should have switched the rubber ducky and these guys because they're not quite as hard. 732 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,120 But these would be the armadilla dym. 733 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,120 All. 734 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:42,120 All Garry also known as the Japanese magic potion isopods. 735 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,120 These guys are so cool. They are my favorite. 736 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:56,120 Because they they're kind of this white cream color, but then they have little neon spots like neon yellow and green and black in there. 737 00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,120 So they look really pretty. 738 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,120 But they do take at least five to six months to breed. 739 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,120 So again, another one of those slow colonizing species. 740 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,120 But they're they're really pretty. 741 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:20,120 And they also are like the zebras and they will roll up into the little bowl and a little really fully balls. 742 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:26,120 And they will get to unroll and be like, oh, hello. Okay. 743 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:32,120 They're they're super. I love the Japanese magic potion, but they are a challenging species. 744 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:38,120 Just for the fact they take a long time to to breed, essentially. 745 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,120 But I would say the forecast forecast. 746 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:52,120 Easy species to keep. But what people don't understand when they see vulgar because we don't because we're too far north believe it or not. 747 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,120 I got vulgar in my garden. 748 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,120 Oh, no. 749 00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,120 60 miles south of me. That's when the vulgar start. 750 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,120 People. 751 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,120 But then there was and what you're talking about magic potions. 752 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,120 Different requirements. 753 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:16,120 You can't keep them all the same. This is this is something I keep track of drumming people with icepods. 754 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,120 People keep them all the same. 755 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,120 Keep it like icepods, but the millipedes, etc. 756 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:28,120 And that seems to be a misconception that people have that you just keep them all the same. 757 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,120 Right. 758 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,120 They don't all like the same foods. 759 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:42,120 Potions, a little high humidity, a little warm temperatures, then same live vulgar. 760 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,120 I would love to say in my garden, but not in my garden. 761 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,120 And then you've got birthday colours. I've got St Lucia. 762 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:56,120 So, you know, they're like a little warm as well. 763 00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,120 I've had five different vulgar on my shelf. 764 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,120 But I can't see them and can't remember the name. 765 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,120 But yeah, there's loads of different versicult. 766 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,120 They are very, very easy to keep. 767 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,120 But make sure you find out where they come from. 768 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,120 And again, that's the person who's solving to you. 769 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,120 How they keep them. 770 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,120 Absolutely. 771 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,120 That's the best way you can do it is by copying their successful method. 772 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,120 That's the best way you can do it is by copying their successful method. 773 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,120 That's the best way you can do it is by copying their successful method. 774 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:42,120 So, the breeder that I went to, which we interviewed them actually a while ago, 775 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:48,120 rubber duckie, rubber duckie isopods, that's their company name. 776 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,120 They are absolutely wonderful people. 777 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,120 And I get all of my isopods from them. 778 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,120 They're really good people. 779 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,120 And the best is you, Simon. 780 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,120 Some species are going to like it a little more humid. 781 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,120 Some species are going to like higher temperatures. 782 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,120 Some are more protein. 783 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,120 They need more protein in their diet. 784 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:14,120 Whereas others are going to need more calcium. 785 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:20,120 So definitely, you know, do a little bit of that research as always with any invert that you're planning on getting. 786 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,120 You've got to do that due diligence. 787 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:31,120 are absolutely an amazing way to get, you know, if it's your first time in the 788 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,640 Invert Hobby and stuff, these guys are a really great place to start, 789 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:41,760 just because they are pretty easy. Like they're not super challenging. 790 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:48,040 Typically if you have, you know, like a bin with with your soil and your 791 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:53,680 substrate, you know, you put some sphagnum moss, maybe some dead leaf litter, a 792 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,440 couple of like driftwood pieces that maybe you've sterilized or whatever. 793 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:04,600 Keep one side more moist than another, so like one side is always dry and then 794 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:09,160 one side is moist. So and of course depending on the species that 795 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:15,600 depend on your moisture, but typically that is all you need for a successful 796 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,800 colony. You check on them once a week, make sure there's enough moisture, give them 797 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,440 the food that they need and then, you know, leave them alone for another seven 798 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:30,080 days and in no time you'll have a really great, great functioning colony. 799 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:35,120 But that's about the end of the podcast. We're at the point where we do our 800 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:41,000 shameless plug. So Simon, what you got? What you got going on this week? 801 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:47,360 Well, I haven't really done much on the channel for a while. 802 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,800 Oh, neither. 803 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,320 Now and again, I'll pop up and do something. 804 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:58,640 But mostly streams because it's the start of the year and it's the start of 805 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:05,880 breeding everything for me and things hatching and etc. So I had time to even 806 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:13,040 watch half of the videos I normally watch and most of my time feeding. 807 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:19,040 So like I said, we went to a show last weekend, weekend before, something like 808 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:25,880 that. We did that. So again, couldn't get around to doing videos. 809 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:32,880 But yeah, shops open now. Still not put all the descriptions on my website, so I 810 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,880 have not made it live yet. But I will be getting outside. I haven't even done 811 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:45,880 that and that makes money. So you can imagine like my e-donut to do videos on 812 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:52,480 YouTube is back there and the websites will be there. So I, you know, that's 813 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,280 really what I should be doing. I'm going to be working on the website next 814 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:04,080 week. And yeah, yeah, that's about it really. Okay. Ask me on Facebook, 815 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:10,680 Instagram, Discord. If you want to buy something, that's where I'll be. Yeah. 816 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:17,280 You open ask. Awesome. Okay. Though that's fantastic. I love it. I'm glad that, you know, 817 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,840 it's a new season. Glad that your neck isn't too bad today. Super happy to see 818 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:27,920 you as always. I'm very pleased about today. It was a such a great week. I could have 819 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:33,720 gone for about another hour. I mean, I missed doing it. I missed doing it because 820 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:40,440 obviously we had the Christmas break and nearly a break. It was both rough. So 821 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:46,880 that was both rough last weekend. So yeah, it's been nice to be back finally. 822 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:52,160 It just feels like life up and picked up and started just moving really fast for 823 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,440 some reason out of nowhere. Like, hang on, it's only February. Like what's going on? 824 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:04,520 Okay. So, so for my shameless plug, just like you, I've kind of neglected my 825 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:09,720 personal channel, Torech, Leah, but that's not to say that I don't have videos 826 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,680 that are like just needing a little tweak and peek here and there and I'll be 827 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:22,320 dropping those soon. Hopefully I'm so done giving absolute dates because I 828 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:28,480 can't keep up. I'm a lot like you. It's not my neck. It's actually my back. So I 829 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:35,560 have some back issues and, you know, good days, bad days. We push through. 830 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:42,760 But obviously, subscribe and like in Verticast. Come check us out. Check us out 831 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:49,720 on all the audio streaming platforms. Usually once this video posts, I put them 832 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:56,120 all down in the description so you can find where we are. And then also, we 833 00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:01,600 have a Discord now. So we have a Discord server and we also have, of course, in 834 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:08,200 Verticast Facebook page. So if you've got burning questions, find us. We're pretty 835 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:16,600 available, like, all over the place. And then, what, so for next week, we've got a 836 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:23,920 an amazing guest. I don't want to spoil it too much. Simon over here scoffs, but I'm 837 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,000 actually really, really super impressed that this wonderful guest actually wants 838 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,640 to take the time out to talk with us because they are quite busy. 839 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:45,640 I don't think so. That's all right. I mean, she has a lot of spiders like I do. But her field of study is 840 00:59:45,640 --> 01:00:01,640 entomology. And so she actually, she works. She's an entomologist. She's actually going for her PhD. So she is a doctor. 841 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:09,920 But she works with the Colorado State University. And she also works very 842 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:14,960 closely with the butterfly pavilion here. So not just spiders. I can promise you 843 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,640 that butterfly pavilion, they've got it all, man. They've got it all. 844 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:29,240 I think butterflies are most, probably my least experienced or read about or, you know, 845 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:35,600 support insects or in after post in general, I know more about tarantulas than I do for supplies and 846 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:41,680 for. Well, that's scary. You've got a great opportunity then. You get to pick her brain. 847 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:49,600 Yeah, that was some questions. I've got some questions. Good. I hope so. I know I will. But in any case, 848 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:55,280 though, yeah, we have that guest next week. I'm really looking forward to it. And yeah, 849 01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:01,080 that's about all I got. So like I said, like and subscribe, tell your friends about us. 850 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:25,880 And we will see you guys next week. Same time, same place. Thank you, Simon. See you later.