1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,640 Hello and welcome to Inverticast. I of course am Leah from Tarantula and with me as always 2 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,000 is Simon from the Mantis Garden. Hello Simon. Hello. 3 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,920 Oh it's so good to have you. Oh thank you Jeff, wanted. 4 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:41,000 Well you are, you're very wanted here. And today, excuse me, today we are going to be 5 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:54,000 talking about Orthoptera, which translates directly to straight wings. But this classification or 6 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:01,760 order of insects includes grasshoppers, locusts, crickets, katydids, and cicadas. And I'm pretty 7 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:08,680 sure there's a few others but those are the main guys that I found through my research. So yeah. 8 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Hello everyone watching. Welcome. So glad to have you guys here. So alright. Sorry. So I have like, 9 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:26,480 I'm kind of hyper so I'm all excited. Okay. So basically about this classification of insects, 10 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:36,360 all of them produce noise. So all of them either chirp or they have songs that they sing. They're 11 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:44,520 usually large to medium size but we all know that we all know that they can be also very very small 12 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:52,080 because we get very small crickets for you know our inverts that eat them. And their habitats are, 13 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:59,600 they occur mostly in like terrestrial habitats but a few are semi-aquatic. So meaning that they 14 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,440 they spend a lot of their time in the water. I didn't happen to find anything on a semi-aquatic 15 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:18,080 species of any of these but that's okay. Maybe we can dive deeper later and find those. Sorry. 16 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Was that a joke? Dive deeper. You caught me. Yeah a little bit. So the nymphs or the babies of these 17 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:37,080 guys they resemble adults but they don't have wings. So once they get to that adult stage that's when 18 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:45,840 they get their wings and their front legs are where they have tibial auditory organs. So their 19 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,200 ears are actually on their front legs which is that's kind of trippy. I thought that was weird. 20 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Can you imagine being able to hear with your front legs? I thought that was an oar. Like an oar was one of them anyway. 21 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:14,160 You're like, oh excuse me can you talk into my arm? Okay. And then their back legs are saltatorial 22 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:20,960 which means that they're basically modified for jumping and leaping. So these are all jumping 23 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:30,680 critters like grasshoppers, locusts, they all jump. Same with crickets. There are 25,000 described 24 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:42,080 species in this class and they are also divided into two sub-orders. One of them being the caliphora 25 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:50,320 which would be the grasshoppers, locusts, and mole crickets. And the other classification would be 26 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:59,120 the ensophora which is the true crickets, katydids, and bush crickets. So I believe bush crickets is 27 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:11,360 just another word for cicadas. I could be wrong but I think I read that. It's not. We actually have bush crickets here. 28 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:21,200 Oh okay. Not many. There's only a little place that still has them that are actually going extinct in the UK. 29 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:30,960 But yeah we do have bush crickets. I think they're not cicadas. I didn't know the scientific name but I can't remember it. 30 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Huh. That's fascinating. I mean they're all related so I mean like a lot of the time when you hear 31 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:50,400 locusts, you know they're actually talking about a very large grasshopper. So they're all kind of in the same 32 00:04:50,400 --> 00:05:01,920 order obviously in classification. It's just that they're just different enough if you will. 33 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:10,960 So I found some pretty good information on katydids and if you don't know what a katydid is, 34 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:19,680 they are an insect that look like a little leaf. So they literally look like a walking leaf. 35 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:26,160 They've got the head like grasshopper so they've got kind of that round kind of pointed head. 36 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Their eyes are pretty small. They've got those antenna. They actually have some pretty large antenna. 37 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:42,400 And then the rest of their body is essentially a leaf. And so yeah they just look like a leaf with legs. 38 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:52,240 And there are 6,000 species of them and they are mostly nocturnal. And they produce a song that's 39 00:05:52,240 --> 00:06:00,000 repetitive and each species of katydid has its own song. And they occur pretty much in every region 40 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:07,200 of the world except for Antarctica. They can be found like living in trees, bushes, grass, 41 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:15,760 and they live for less than a year. The eggs are the only life stage or their larval stage is the 42 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:23,680 only stage that they can actually survive winter through. And most of them eat leaf matter although 43 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:30,480 there are some katydids that are predators or predatory. So they eat like other insects. 44 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:37,440 And yeah that's pretty much what I found on katydids unfortunately but I love them. I 45 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:44,400 think katydids are really cute. Like I don't know. Anytime I see a katydid I'm like oh my gosh it's 46 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:54,880 good luck. Yay! I've never seen one in the UK. Really? I think we have one or two species here. 47 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:09,120 Okay. And only down south. And yeah never seen one of ours. So we've very rarely seen 48 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:17,120 crickets or grasshoppers over there. We don't see those either. Man I thought they would be 49 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,720 pretty prevalent in the UK because you guys have, I mean it's pretty lush there yeah. I mean 50 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:34,080 there's a lot of foliage. It's always wet and damp and it's never really that warm. 51 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:40,320 Especially up in the northern side of things. We tend not to, we don't get them around where I am. 52 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:49,280 I know down south you are a bit more prevalent but here not so much. You see them in summer. 53 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,000 If you go on a summer walk you'll see them. The grasshoppers are the crickets. I've never bothered 54 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:01,760 catching them. You need to find out. You know they'll jump when you walk near them. But they're not 55 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:09,280 what you would expect. There's not millions of them. Okay. There is in this box though. You can 56 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:16,160 probably hear them. Yeah I can hear your crickets. You said you had a big little colony of them yeah? 57 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:23,680 Yeah I do. I've bred black crickets for the nymphs. Oh that's awesome. These guys will never get eaten. 58 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:29,920 These are all adults. They'll never get eaten. They're here just to make a racket. 59 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:36,480 And to lay eggs. That's all I happen for. Babies that get eaten sadly for them. 60 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Perfect size for tiny manta snakes. For tiny manta snakes. Nice. Yeah they're a constant supply of eggs. 61 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Oh yeah I bet. You just keep changing the substrate in a tub. You put a new tub in. 62 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:59,360 A couple of days they've filled the tub with eggs. So you just take that out and put new one in. 63 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:08,320 And every five ten days you've got new baby nymphs. Nice. That's awesome. 64 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:15,520 It's a cheap way of feeding them. Right you don't have to spend so much money on the post and stuff 65 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:23,600 to get your crickets. Yeah the adults and staff are there and you know take some out. 66 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Right. In case I have boxes behind the ears. I grow a few of them on and then 67 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:41,120 constantly cycle if you like. Yeah perfect. Eden Inverth says that wild hoppers are everywhere down here. 68 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:49,760 And I don't know where down here is. Who is that? Eden Inverth. 69 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,200 Oh yeah. Well again down south it's in Kent I think. Yeah Kent. 70 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Okay. Kent sorry somewhere like that. Which is down below London. 71 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:09,360 Okay yeah. Again it's surprisingly a really big difference in temperature 72 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:16,720 and down that normally. I'm not surprised because here oh he says 73 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Eden says I'm south of Eden Bridge Kent. Okay cool so you were right. 74 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:30,560 But yeah no I'm not surprised that there's a temperature variations in the regions of 75 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:37,360 of the UK because yeah I mean here in Colorado like you know here you might be in Denver 76 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:43,440 and it might be like 50 degrees or you know and it feels kind of cold but if you just travel about 77 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:49,440 three hours south to Pueblo you're gonna find that it's you know five degrees warmer. 78 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:56,480 Same within the summer time if you know if the summer time it's too hot down in the city 79 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:02,240 all you have to do is go about an hour hour and a half up into the mountains to like Georgetown 80 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:10,240 and it's at least 20 degrees cooler so yeah it's definitely you know regions definitely vary quite a bit. 81 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:19,040 So. Well we get that on the south coast right on the south coast there is wild stick insects. 82 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:26,640 Three species in the UK down near Devon, Calmore that sort of area. 83 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:36,320 They wouldn't last up here. That five to seven degrees makes such a difference 84 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:42,960 and the length of summer makes such difference. Wow. Because we're the only living like 85 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:49,120 let's be honest they live about nine months so your Katty Gaines, your grasshoppers everything else 86 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:58,080 you've got nine months. If you don't get that warm weather for that period of time it can't reproduce 87 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:03,760 it can't survive that's why we don't have mantis. It's a simple reason they don't have time to grow 88 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:11,200 to live or to reproduce to lay their eggs etc and that goes for a lot of bugs so down south have 89 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:18,480 so many more bugs than we have up here. We're what 200 miles away. 90 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:27,280 200 miles north is a big difference. I can imagine. When it comes to like the north 91 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:34,880 it makes a massive difference so a lot of things like you talk about stuff like 92 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:41,920 castages, cicadas and like cicadas yeah never seen one. We've seen them abroad. 93 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:50,800 Crickets, bush crickets I think bush crickets live in one county in England. 94 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Okay. They go in that extinct they only live in one place. Wow. So it's really it's just one 95 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:08,560 of the places in England. It's rather the UK as a whole. Scotland has got half of anything populated 96 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:16,080 so you know down in Cornwall or Devon or somewhere like that which is way down south. 97 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Well Bazan says that of course he'll put one in Simon's care package for you 98 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,360 so you're going to get yourself a katty did. That's in Devon the place I've been talking 99 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:35,600 about. He lives in Devon which is really really on the south coast. It's luxury down there. 100 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:44,000 To me now it'd be summer you know I would think it was summer. So okay it's crazy because we want 101 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:50,880 right like we 10 degrees it's t-shirt. You can wear a t-shirt outside for us. Yeah. Throw 102 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:57,840 shivering at 10 degrees but for us it's normal. It's you know it's fine. That's like a normal day 103 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:08,160 yeah. Unfortunately the bugs jump a gap quite as well as we do to that massive temperature change. 104 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:14,480 Oh yeah absolutely. I mean yeah no they it's weird because even here like at the higher 105 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:20,080 altitudes and stuff there are almost no bugs no insects whatsoever. Once you get past that 106 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:27,200 tree line there's a tree line at about I believe it's 13 000 14 000. No it's definitely like 12 to 107 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:34,240 13 000 feet. The trees stop growing and then it's all just mountain. It's all just rocks 108 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:43,280 and there are no insects up there. None. So let's talk about locusts. Locusts are a acrididae 109 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:51,040 which is cool but they usually will increase greatly in numbers and then they migrate for 110 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:58,240 long distances but they are very destructive to like leaf matter and whatnot because that's what 111 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:06,960 they eat. So they tend to have a pretty negative effect on like farming areas and agricultural 112 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:14,560 businesses but smaller species are called grasshoppers. So grasshoppers are a type of 113 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:24,160 locust. The theory of two phases in which they live so the one they have one solitary life phase 114 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:31,360 in which they they pretty much just you know they live they eat they mate they die but the other 115 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:39,520 is a gregarious life phase where they can be distinguished by the coloration their form 116 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:47,600 physiology and behavior. During the gregarious phase they respond to it's a response essentially 117 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,720 to the violent fluctuation in the environment. Where did you go? 118 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:03,600 Okay no so it's a it's actually a response to a violent change in their environment 119 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:11,280 and so basically these massive swarms will form in marginal regions where the suitable habitats 120 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:21,360 are scarce and then they will swarm and become like these massive just swarms and they won't 121 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:30,240 stop flying or swarming essentially until their environment changes with like rain or 122 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:37,600 uh decreased temperatures darkness these sort of things. And there was actually in 1869 I found 123 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:45,520 this very fascinating there was a a huge swarm of desert locusts that reached all the way to 124 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:52,160 the UK from like West Africa. So they went all the way from West Africa to the UK where you are 125 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:59,440 in a massive swarm because yeah so and that was that's pretty recent that was about 150 or so 126 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:05,920 years ago so just a huge swarm that got all the way to the UK. Do you do you know anything about 127 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:13,440 that? I don't know um I just know now they're sending wives from West Africa to the UK. 128 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:21,680 Oh wow. I'm just going to show you this actually which I don't think you get to see but oh cool 129 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:30,800 that's a horse head grasshopper. Oh wow. Unfortunately unfortunately you can't see 130 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,280 I was hoping you could but it's not big enough. That's another half a terry. 131 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:44,720 Which is is one that normally gets overlooked because it looks nothing like a traditional 132 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,160 grasshopper. Yeah right I mean traditionally grasshoppers are they're green they're about 133 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:57,920 you know an inch and a half or so long they've got um they've got kind of a round body that's 134 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:03,840 pointed at the end and then of course they're green and they're green and they're green and 135 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:10,160 body that's pointed at the end and then of course you know they're they're really big big hind legs 136 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,840 for that leaping. What a beautiful grasshopper though that's amazing it looks like a little stick. 137 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:22,240 Yeah they do look like stickings like they actually get like this big. Oh wow wow. They're 138 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:31,280 quite a big and they can jump really really well. Oh that's incredible. But I just realized I thought 139 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:37,520 I thought no I thought apart from the oh yes I've got this. Heck yeah. Also grasshoppers. 140 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Shady thing says I love that silly grasshopper thing. Thanks Shady. I love it too I've never seen 141 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:54,160 one. Yeah they are they are a fantastically weird looking face. They're beautiful. Yes they're an 142 00:18:54,160 --> 00:19:05,120 amazing creature. A friend of mine sent me some of these. Sadly some got out of the enclosure and 143 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:12,000 there was tiny when he sent them and I can only imagine where they've gone. So 144 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:21,200 Nanty's belly I should imagine. This guy's managed to make it this far so welcome to get an 145 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,880 owl. It's a shame he wasn't an owl because you really can see how big they are. They do get quite 146 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:34,560 quite a massive sort of thing for a grasshopper but when you look at that you wouldn't say 147 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,920 oh yes that's a grasshopper. Right no I wouldn't think that at all actually. 148 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:46,720 Because it looks like a stick insect. Yeah it does. It's definitely got a fast made look about it but 149 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:53,280 it is a grasshopper. So yeah anyway sorry about that. No don't be. That was that was wonderful. 150 00:19:53,280 --> 00:20:00,720 I appreciate that you have a living example of a really cool species of grasshopper. I think that's 151 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:08,160 amazing. You was talking about locusts in baby England which I well hey I don't remember it 152 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:17,200 because well you weren't there. I hope. I'm not quite that old yet. Are you sure? I didn't know anything about that 153 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:25,120 and I should imagine they would have gone past the south anyway. Yeah oh yeah I know it did mention 154 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:33,520 UK it did mention London so I'm yeah I'm thinking that that's probably where they got to. I don't 155 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:41,600 know. It's always down south. We never get the good stuff. To me that would be free food. I've been 156 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:49,680 out there with the net collecting them. Marvelous to me. Well and I you know when I was growing up here 157 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:58,160 we had I mean we had grasshoppers, crickets, locusts the whole nine. So you know and it's 158 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:03,840 still true now. Like I walk through my front yard now and you know especially in like spring and summer 159 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:11,680 there's plenty of grasshoppers. They will jump you know so it's kind of nice to have that and 160 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:19,200 of course like I said we get katydids and cicadas a lot of the time. I think at least once a year 161 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:26,480 I will see a katydid. It'll just come and hang out you know or I'll see it. I think they like my 162 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:33,280 I think they like the walls of my house because if they're white so that bright color is like tend 163 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:39,840 to attract them. But yeah I don't know. I don't know what it is. I guess I'm just lucky like that. 164 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:48,160 Well probably going to get some katydids. It's a shame we did this now because I was thinking 165 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:55,200 about getting some anyway. No. Have you seen the giant ones? Yeah they're amazing. We don't get them 166 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:03,440 that big here. Yeah absolutely enormous. I think they're Peruvian I mean. I believe so yeah because 167 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:10,400 the Amazon I mean everything is bigger than Amazon for sure. Like they're just everything is huge 168 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:17,600 there. Well I'm sure there's plenty of them we don't know about but yeah yeah. Then those katydids 169 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:24,720 now are doing their rounds in the UK at the moment in the bookseat. Oh wow. Whereas people are all 170 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:31,920 getting katydids so or katydids. I've never known which one it is. Yeah I don't either. 171 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:38,400 It's spelled like it should be pronounced katydid. Yeah I think so. I think so but a lot of people 172 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:46,240 call it katydids so I'm confused. I think it's an American thing. I don't know. No I would call them 173 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:54,880 katydids. I would call them katydids but I just hear it a lot katydids so I'll have to look that up to be 174 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:00,000 honest. I'll have to look it up and see if it's Latin or Greek and then we can figure out whether 175 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,680 it's Katie or Katie. Yeah we'll have to do that for sure and let me know later on. 176 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,800 And then we can correct ourselves from here on out. One of the things you did 177 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:20,160 do which surprised me because I was waiting for you to slip up. Oh. You say orthoptera correctly. 178 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:25,040 Orthoptera yeah. Because most people say orthoptera. 179 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,640 And I thought she's got to say orthoptera. She's definitely got to say orthoptera. 180 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,280 As is American and it's just a weird word. 181 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:46,960 And I thought yeah you're going to say it incorrectly. Like everybody else says it incorrectly and I was like 182 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,200 it's orthoptera because you got it right. Ortho Greek for straight. 183 00:23:52,960 --> 00:24:00,560 Thera for wings. So it's like yeah. I surprised you huh. Absolutely. 184 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:06,160 I was in a position where I had nothing to complain about. 185 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,520 Did you hear that guys? You didn't have it. All these people was pronouncing things wrong like 186 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:23,040 orthoptera and orthopedotera. And that's the other one that does it. Where people 187 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:31,280 pronounce the P in Thera. Yeah right right. No but it's like pterodactyl. You know the P is silent. 188 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,200 I wish mine wasn't three at the moment. 189 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,200 You know it's funny because when I was in high school I actually took 190 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,040 Latin which I mean as you know is a dead language. Nobody speaks it anymore. 191 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:55,680 But a lot of like medical terms and whatnot use Latin because it's pretty much the root words for 192 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:02,560 anything and everything in the medical world right. And I took I actually took it for 193 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:10,400 I believe four years. No I took it for three years. And you know I used to laugh at myself like oh 194 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,320 man I don't know why I'm even taking this class. Like I don't know if I'm ever going to use it. 195 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:21,680 All this stuff. And here I am now you know learning all this about arthropods and 196 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,120 invertebrates. And I'm like oh man that Latin really paid off. 197 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Because I'm sorry we started learning Latin and Greek. 198 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:41,520 At school when I was five or six. Oh wow. It was just one then you know it was that sort of time 199 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:49,200 and that sort of school where they would insist that you learn where English words came from. 200 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:57,840 Because a lot of English words are Latin. You know they're based in Latin. So they insisted on 201 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:04,240 like if we got taught a new word they'd tell us the Latin where it came from or the Greek. 202 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:12,160 Which helps so much now. Yeah. The pronunciations etc for a lot of the books. 203 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:18,480 Yeah me too. I always thought the same but what a waste of absolute time. 204 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:28,320 And it really wasn't. It really wasn't. Because not only that you can spot when somebody's using 205 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:34,480 a word incorrectly even if you've never heard the word as long as you know where it's come from. 206 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,240 Because you can generally figure out where it's come from. Yeah you can just pick it right up. 207 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:47,760 Yeah. I also like to give credit to that Latin class for my ability to be able to like hear a 208 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:54,960 different language and kind of have a general idea as to what is being said. I know that that sounds 209 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:01,280 strange but... No it doesn't. I hear Lily. I hear Lily and I know she's the linguist over here. 210 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:12,000 I did the same. I didn't use to be able to do it but now I can actually watch a Spanish film. 211 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:20,720 I know what's going on. You know I can put together the words just because of the Latin. 212 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:28,400 So it really makes a massive difference. Learning Latin is a really big step 213 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,520 to knowing a lot of other languages because all our languages are based on Latin. 214 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:39,760 Absolutely. It's just so deeply ingrained in a lot of languages. I mean I know it's 215 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:46,160 definitely deeply ingrained in English, a little bit of Spanish, some French, 216 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,320 and they're all kind of interconnected anyway so it's kind of you know it's pretty wild. 217 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,320 It is. I think we went off topic. 218 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,760 Just a little but you know I feel that the language is actually pretty important for 219 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,880 invertebrates so maybe that's a topic for another day. 220 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:16,080 I think that is a fantastic idea and I know a few people would like that very much. 221 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:25,120 Yeah maybe we should do a vote. Do a poll on community. Yeah absolutely. I think that 222 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:32,000 there's quite a few people out there who strip up on saying the Latin or they feel silly 223 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:38,800 saying the Latin because they're going to be a bit of a pain in the ass. I think that's 224 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:46,800 pronounced it wrong. Yeah. Because I found that most people don't know where the syllables are 225 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,920 in Latin. Right. Because they're not obvious. Like you see a normal English word and we see 226 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,960 the syllables we go oh yeah yeah yeah and we can learn how to say it. Whereas in Latin you look at 227 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:05,200 it it's just a jumble of letters. Right. Once you can identify like sections of it you can actually 228 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:11,840 say it correctly like auto and terror. Once you know those two you can take them apart and say 229 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:18,960 them separately. You just put them together and say them and that's it's it's done. So yeah I think 230 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:26,240 you should do that. So I'm going to shut up now about Latin. Well that's Greek. And then we'll go 231 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:35,120 And Eden Inver says I'm currently trying to learn my Latin. So hey there you go. Like you 232 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:42,560 know you're you're among friends. We um a mo a mas a mat. That is all the Latin I know and it's 233 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:50,240 all the Latin I want. That was my Latin teacher was amazing and I've learned quite a bit. But now 234 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:58,640 I mean I can't speak it but I like the basic stuff is still in in there. And like you said it just 235 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:05,520 it really really does help to be able to understand like the Latin words and like the scientific terms 236 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,800 for a lot of things. So all right let's get back on topic. We're going to talk about cicadas now 237 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,120 because I found all kinds of really cool actual like folklore about cicadas. 238 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:25,040 And so cicadas are interesting because the males produce the loud noises that you hear by 239 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:34,320 vibrating the membranes called timbals and they're near the base of their abdomen. Females will lay 240 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,880 eggs in the woody plant tissues and then they will drop from like the plant or whatever when the eggs 241 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:49,520 hatch and then nymphs will burrow and suck juices from the roots of perennial plants. There are 242 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:57,600 over 3,000 species known of cicadas and they actually are a sub classification known as 243 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:09,200 cicadidae. Cicadidae maybe. There it is there it is. Okay they occur in deserts grasslands forests. 244 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:16,800 They appear pretty much yearly with the periodic or I'm sorry but they also will appear like 245 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:23,600 periodic and then there's also the best known cicada for this which is the 17 year cicada. 246 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:32,400 Maggius cicada and they have been used in folk medicines, religious symbols and monetary symbols. 247 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:42,160 So once upon a time they used cicada songs or the sounds that they made in forecasting the weather. 248 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,680 So it's pretty fascinating and this is where we get into the folklore of cicadas. 249 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,840 But first we can talk a little bit about cicadas and kind of their song and 250 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,400 like all about that and yeah what do you think of cicadas? Do you like them? Do you like their 251 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:06,560 song? Because I know for me it's hard for me to like go to sleep anywhere where there aren't 252 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:14,160 crickets or cicadas or some kind of repetitive noise and that's just because you know growing 253 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:20,960 up here in Colorado we had plenty of them like they just the noise right. So if I go somewhere 254 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:28,320 where there isn't that noise it's really hard for me to sleep. Do you find that? Yeah. 255 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:37,920 I've got these guys who serenade me every night. Oh wonderful. Repetitive noise. I'm married so 256 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,840 I'm in trouble now. She's just giving me a dirty look. She's watching. I mean yeah I'm bent and she 257 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:55,680 gave me a dirty look on that one. So anyway but yeah I love the sound of the cicada. 258 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,520 I love the sound of the crickets. I absolutely love it. It helps me sleep. 259 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:10,320 Yeah. It did. In India I used to love that because it was a complete different sound 260 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:17,680 than what we get here. Yeah. So relaxing and calming. Cicadas. All I've heard of cicadas is 261 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:29,440 buzzing because as I told you before the podcast the first time I came across cicadas was in Greece 262 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,800 and it was just hitting my patio windows because the lights was on and it was night time and I was 263 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:42,640 having a drink outside. It was just like I don't know. I didn't have an opinion on it. I was quite 264 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,880 afraid of it at first because they aren't really intimidating. First time I've seen one and it's 265 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,040 there on the floor and there's loads of them. They're buzzing and making all sorts of noise. 266 00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:04,480 Do I pick one up? Can it bite me? Plus the fact I may have had one or two so I didn't really 267 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:13,520 pick one up. It didn't really help with my idea of eating them. Yeah. I can do without cicadas. 268 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:24,720 I really like cicadas because I actually spent a couple of years in Okinawa. So the cicadas there 269 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:33,440 are incredibly loud. They are everywhere. And the ones there I believe spend seven years underground 270 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:41,360 in their nymph stage. So they grow while they're underground and then when they emerge they only 271 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,800 live for about a month or two and that's when they do their mating and whatnot and then they 272 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:53,840 mate their eggs and so on and so forth. But the noise from them was just constant and they were 273 00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:00,240 massive. I mean they were about the size of golf balls. And it's weird because I didn't know that 274 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:04,960 they were classified in with crickets and grasshoppers. I thought they were a type of beetle. 275 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:12,880 But no, I was so wrong about that. And they're quite beautiful actually. If you've ever seen one 276 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:21,360 they're good size and I think they are kind of territorial and so in Okinawa they would dive 277 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:27,200 bomb us and we had this little paddy wagon that we had to drive around and patrol in an area. 278 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:34,640 And I can remember people crashing that little paddy wagon like so many times because a cicada 279 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:41,680 flew into the window and you know bonked him in the head or whatever. And they are really intimidating 280 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:49,840 if not just for that noise but that size. And so they're just a really intimidating creature. 281 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,120 But it's really fascinating that they burrow and then they only live for like a month or so. 282 00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,800 And that's when they're the noisiest. So it's just wild. Can you imagine that's your life? 283 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,560 Like seven years underground and then one day you emerge and you're like an old man ready to die. 284 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,800 Oh, I felt like we were in bed last night. 285 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:27,040 I find it fascinating. A lot of the insect world is just amazing. 286 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,760 It's wild. 287 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,720 Like the dragonfly for instance the larva can spend several years in the water. 288 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Right. 289 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,320 And then in terms of dragonfly, five minutes later it's brown bread again. 290 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:47,600 So you know it's amazing. They must know that once they come out of there it's game over. 291 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,040 That it's like I've got to find something to make with and then that's it. 292 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,440 Right. I mean their instincts must be really, really strong. Just really, really strong. 293 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:06,640 I mean it's fascinating. So with that being said that's a really great segue for 294 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,560 folklore. So that instinct or that ancient wisdom. Right. 295 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:20,160 So in the folklore cicadas have been known to kind of epitomize reincarnation. 296 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:29,120 So about 40 million years is the earliest form. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know what 40 million years was. 297 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:34,560 But maybe that's like their oldest. Maybe that's the oldest like record of them in the fossil. 298 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:40,560 The oldest identifiable fossil of a cicada I think. 299 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,280 Yeah. So I'm thinking that's what I wrote down and I apologize. 300 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,300 But um. 301 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:48,960 And fossil what? Go on carry on. 302 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:58,960 No worries. So the earliest form was in China and they would actually make stone carvings out of jade. 303 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:06,400 Of cicadas and they believed that because the cicadas had that like kind of that 304 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:13,760 reincarnating or that they epitomized you know eternal life essentially or rebirth. 305 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:20,480 They would place the jade cicada on the tongue of a deceased person. 306 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:28,640 And that actually would allow for them that the deceased would would emerge and achieve their 307 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:35,520 permanent immortality. So they imagined that that the cicada helps them cross into that immortality. 308 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:44,320 But I found a lot. I found another really beautiful story from the Hopi 309 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,960 indigenous people here in the states. 310 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,760 The Indians yeah. 311 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:55,040 Yeah the Hopi. Yeah. So they actually in the northern Arizona their mythology 312 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:01,280 indicates that they emerged from the Grand Canyon right. And some sources say that they 313 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:08,000 were led by two cicadas that played flutes which kind of makes sense because they do make that 314 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:15,760 noise right. But they basically the cicadas would heal their bodies as they emerged from the 315 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:23,760 Grand Canyon because the entrance to the fourth world was guarded by eagles that shot arrows at 316 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:30,960 them. So the cicadas singing with their flutes would heal their bodies. So that's another really 317 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,480 fascinating like kind of legend or folklore. I feel like you know. 318 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:50,880 I don't know why but I have no idea why. No not a clue. But in that story I think I've heard that 319 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,920 in a movie somewhere. It's possible. It's possible because the Hopi tribe is a really popular tribe 320 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:04,320 because they're actually there's not a lot not a ton known about them. So the more we learn about 321 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,800 them the more it kind of spreads out and people get really excited about it. So that doesn't 322 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:17,280 surprise me. Or a documentary. Yeah right. Yeah yeah. I've watched a lot of those. 323 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:23,680 Oh I love them. I love them. I live in. There is a good chance of her being there but I actually 324 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,560 knew that story. Pretty much worth the words of what you were saying. I was like oh god yeah. 325 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:35,760 You're like click click click. Yeah I know nothing of the folklore. I know the Chinese 326 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:41,360 quite liked them. But that one yeah I knew. So I was quite pleased about that. Yeah. 327 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:47,680 Well cool. Please tell me. Yeah I'm glad to I'm glad to hear that that that made you happy. 328 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:56,960 I also found a really cool actually a story about Eos from ancient Greek. And Eos is the goddess of 329 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:08,320 the dawn. And she had a lover named Titanus. Titanus. It it's spelled Tythonus but it's Titanus. 330 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:14,480 And he was he lived in Troy and he was human. But she loved him. This was her this was her duke you 331 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:24,000 know. And Eos asked Zeus to grant Titanus immortality. But she forgot to ask Zeus for 332 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:32,480 his eternal youth as well. So essentially she doomed Titanus to remain alive but to grow old 333 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:40,720 that like so old that he sank into a toothless decrepitude. And eventually he was praying for 334 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:51,280 death. Oh quit Simon you are not. So Eos understood that the gods never retracted their gifts once they 335 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:59,120 gave a gift. They never took it back. But not knowing what else to do she locked Titanus away 336 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:05,280 and turned him into an ever complaining cicada. And that's pretty much the end of the story. I 337 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,080 don't know if there's like a moral or something that we can learn from it. But I've I thought 338 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:16,240 that one was pretty fascinating. I didn't say ever complaining. It's the noise isn't it. The noise 339 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:25,520 yeah. Yeah just the rain. Yeah yeah yeah. The noise comes from. It's Titanus. It's 340 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:35,680 Titanus complaining. Yeah about growing so old. I don't know. That's why I'm going to go off. 341 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:44,400 It's just devastating. I know growing old is such a pain. But yeah that's pretty interesting that 342 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:52,800 cicadas are related to immortal life and rebirth and that kind of thing. But it it also really 343 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:59,600 makes sense because exactly how they behave. You know like spending years and years underground 344 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:05,600 and then emerging in their adult form. Like it just makes makes total sense that that people 345 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:17,760 would see them as rebirth. This is very similar to Hedgehog mythology. Oh. Where as you just said 346 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:26,560 they spend the time underground, come out, reincarnation etc. When there's an ancient 347 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:34,080 Egyptian mythology about hedgehogs. Okay. When they're hibernates they saw the hedgehogs as 348 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,280 being reincarnated because they've vanished for months at a time and then just all reappeared at 349 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:47,280 the same time. So it's a similar thing. It was that was their idea of reincarnation. They said 350 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:54,400 oh they've got this sus they're reincarnating. Wow. That's their proof for it existing. Being a 351 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:04,960 thing. So cicadas going underground for as long as they do is a real you know it must have been 352 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:12,480 amazing when you know back in the day when you didn't know what was going on. Right. Just all 353 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,760 these these large you know singing bugs emerging from the ground. I mean that must have been 354 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:30,080 quite a sight. Oh at the same time. Yeah. Right. Well that and the yeah that's amazing. I mean it's 355 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:36,960 it's just incredible. I agree. But locusts also like the swarming that they do. I mean 356 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:42,720 it's been happening for hundreds of thousands probably even you know millions of years as long 357 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:49,600 as they've been here on earth. You know but it's well documented in human history that that the 358 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:57,360 swarms of locusts will you know affect us you know and that that hive mind essentially is kind of 359 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:03,360 fascinating to us as well. Like we always that's a one of the reasons that we're studying ants as to 360 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:10,960 to their near neurons and that synopsis that they go through because we're trying to figure out how 361 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:18,000 does the hive mind happen. How does this you know how do they just know how what to do when to do 362 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,120 it. You know same with bees like you know once once they get in the hive how do they know that 363 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,320 they need more pollen to feed the larvae. How do they know that you know. So we're we're definitely 364 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:34,480 researching that and I think that is quite a fascinating thing about insects that hive mind 365 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:42,640 essentially that they just you know there must be something that can be doing. That's the scary part 366 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,600 you know. When you go out and do something you have two of them doing the same thing going oh 367 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:58,880 you're here. No no it's my job. They just don't know shut up. What what job. They don't know why 368 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,880 sometimes they just start singing and then they'll go quiet. But yeah they all seem to know what 369 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,760 they're doing now. They're all doing different things. We see them just like the bee doing these 370 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:17,040 stuff. But you know each bee is doing different bee stuff. It's doing certain things. You've got 371 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:24,640 certain jobs. Ants probably more so as far as more jobs are concerned. You know loads and loads of 372 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:30,000 little things you've got to do and you've got casts and you know workers and majors and medias 373 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,920 and all that sort of thing. So ants are quite fascinating in that respect. Absolutely. I think 374 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:43,040 we have no idea what's going on. We don't know how they know or why they know. Let's be honest 375 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:50,480 we don't know why birds can fly in formation and then suddenly change. Right. That's pretty 376 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,400 and so can mongus. They do the same thing. They're just like all right we're left now. 377 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,480 Which is right by the way. I just did left. It makes me can't remember. I forget that. But yeah 378 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,760 we're going right now and then they all go right and go like yeah food's over here. Right. Like 379 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:16,160 that one turns and they all do. It's like and but there's no specific leader of the pack. 380 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:23,680 You know whereas like in wolves you've got a pack with mammals. Right. And you've got one clear 381 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:30,240 leader. Right. It's the decision. So you know it's the alpha. Where there's been insects etc. 382 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:40,320 There's no alpha. There's no alpha. They're all they're all just yeah. And the tiny tiny tiny 383 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:49,600 gondola that they've got as a brain. It was how to get so much information in there and know what 384 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:55,840 to do when to do it. It's amazing. It really is. I agree. It's pretty fascinating. I mean even 385 00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:02,240 even just being hit being able to observe it you know in your everyday life and stuff. It's 386 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:10,480 really something to admire. It would be nice if researchers bothered looking at things like that 387 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:17,440 instead of a hundred different ways how to kill them. Yeah right. Because you might get put them 388 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:23,200 off. Yeah. We don't know what he's all with something. They can go another direction whatever 389 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:30,160 you know. But now we'll kill them because that's how it's all related. Unfortunately. And you know 390 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,640 like they do they serve a purpose. They absolutely serve a purpose. Every single 391 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,320 invertebrate every single you know insect that you find in the world it has a purpose. Even the 392 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:45,440 mosquitoes which I still I still would like to know what on earth their purpose is. But 393 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:53,120 they serve one. Certainly. To keep the humans down. Is that what it is just to spread the malaria. Yes. 394 00:48:53,120 --> 00:49:01,680 To keep the humans down. It's well shucks. We're the problem. Well that we know. Yeah. 395 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:10,880 I'm all for mosquitoes. Keep them going. We need some more. That's great. We don't have them so it's great. 396 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,640 I'm really you know I'm actually really lucky because I think I and I like to think that it's 397 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:22,720 my blood type but I don't get bit as much as other people do by mosquitoes and stuff. So 398 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:30,720 lucky. Oh yep see Eden. Eden inverts agrees with you that mosquitoes purpose is to annoy the humans. 399 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:39,440 So. Well it's to keep the human population in check. Yeah. But everything has something to keep it in check. 400 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:47,840 Yeah. Yeah. If you take away a predator. It will just go wild. It will go mad then. It's 401 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:56,000 explode the population. Yeah. That is what we've done. That's why humans are growing as fast as we 402 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:03,600 are. Because we've taken away our predators. Our problems. And on top of that we've added medicine 403 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:10,560 and all the other things that keep us alive even longer. Right. You know we've got nothing to kill 404 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:16,000 us off and keep us in check. Yeah. We'll kill everything else off. Well I don't know though 405 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,640 because I mean I've been seeing these videos of people and you know tourists that go to like 406 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:26,080 Yellowstone and they're getting mauled by the bison out there in the buffalo because you know 407 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:31,520 they're they're just getting too close to these massive creatures and they think oh they're just 408 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,720 so big and wooly and they can't hurt me or whatever. They get close enough and that thing is like I've 409 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:42,480 got horns and I know how to use them. Well Bites are the biggest killer aren't they in Africa. 410 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:48,720 Yeah. They kill more people in Africa than anything else. And they've got you know you've got 411 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:57,440 crocodiles. You've got sure tigers but they're not there lions and stuff. And yet cows kill more people. 412 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:06,320 The wildebeest. So yeah basically they just count. And I've also been told that hippos, 413 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:14,960 hippopotamus they have they have the strongest bite force of any creature. Is it any creature 414 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:20,560 on earth? I don't know if that's. No it's not. I think it's um 415 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:29,200 um manel isn't it. Is it? Yeah because uh. Oh it's a jaguar. 416 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,440 I'm trying to think what has the stronger bite force in there. 417 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,720 I'm pretty sure jaguars have a major bite force like their bite force is. Yeah 418 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:46,240 jackdivers are one of them. They have a massive massive bite force. But hippos are killing more 419 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:54,480 people than sharks do every year. So oh yeah yeah. It's not because they're biting them. It's because 420 00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:00,320 they're flattening them. Yeah. You know what I mean. So they're fighting them. They still 421 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:07,600 kill people. They just. Well yeah I mean they do. You know this huge what how much do they weigh? At 422 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:14,720 least a ton. This huge animal coming at you at like 30 miles an hour. I mean that's no that's 423 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:21,440 like a car crash. That's like a semi crash you know. Well cats don't weigh a ton do they? So you've got 424 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:30,720 something you know probably weighing twice as much as a car. Yeah exactly. Totally. Absolutely. 425 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,200 We didn't just go on a tangent did we again? Yes all the fun ways that animals can kill people. 426 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:50,160 Let's let's just do that. Okay so actually no let's uh that's pretty much all I've got 427 00:52:50,960 --> 00:53:00,480 um about the orthoptera. Again really really really cool orthoptera. What did I say it wrong again? 428 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:12,240 No I'm saying right. Oh yeah okay sorry that was fun. Orthoptera. Yeah but yeah um so let's 429 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:19,120 let's close this out maybe uh next oh that would be an awesome show is what Eden Invert says and 430 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:26,480 okay well then hey that's another another topic that I'm writing down. We're gonna schedule it out. 431 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:33,760 Okay I have no idea what it's put because I can't see the screen. Okay. And it's not because of these 432 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:39,600 it's because it's all the way over there. Right you'd have to look but yeah no Eden Invert says 433 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,800 that would be a fun and awesome show and I'm pretty sure that Eden is talking about all the 434 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:52,320 ways that people can be killed by animals. Humans yes. What a wonderful show that would be. 435 00:53:52,320 --> 00:54:01,600 Wonderful yeah I hope for that yeah. Yeah I'm good with that um but yeah okay let's do our 436 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:08,720 shameless plug. So Simon what do you got going on this week? Anything new? Uh yeah I've started 437 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:15,200 doing videos again because I had the time that was so busy before Christmas and also uh I've not been 438 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:21,600 too good and so I pretty much stopped doing them back from the old show but I've started doing 439 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:31,280 again this week and I'm gonna carry on that so obviously Mantis Garden, YouTube that's it yeah 440 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:41,120 and also is just reading and going mad but I would like to if I can drop in the fact that there's a 441 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:48,720 show on the uh 11th or is it the 10th of February I've got a quick look. Oh yeah I've got that. 442 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:55,040 It's in Sheffield in the UK and it is called the Great Ant Exhibition. It's not just ants it's all 443 00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:02,000 sorts of inverts but ants are it's put on by a company that deals in ants so it's the Great Ant 444 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:08,960 Exhibition and I'll have tables there so if you want to buy Mantis or whatever else I'm 445 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:17,200 gonna take with me I don't know yet uh yeah I'll be there and you can uh say hi and uh also 446 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:23,840 buy stuff. Yeah no that's wonderful how fun you'll have to tell me all about it because uh 447 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:31,280 I'm actually considering uh setting up a table at like expo nearby me um although I won't I 448 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,280 probably won't be selling anything because I don't have anything to sell I'll just be educating. 449 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:45,600 Just good if not better. Yes you know promoting our show. Yeah I think that yeah yeah absolutely. 450 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,000 I'm gonna listen because it looks embarrassing on YouTube. 451 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:58,160 I there's not many people watch on YouTube but people listen uh and you know. Oh yeah yeah people 452 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:04,080 are listening all over the world we even have a listener in uh Jakarta so that's that's really 453 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:10,800 really cool shout out to Jakarta dude thanks for listening um yeah like our podcast is doing pretty 454 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:22,160 well for sure. I can't even about say hi so. Yeah um okay so for my shameless plug I you know I had 455 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:29,440 a short that I just I haven't been able to get the the voiceover done for it but I am going to get 456 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:36,640 that done real soon um but it's going to be a short little video about how I clean my enclosures to 457 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:43,040 reuse them so when I'm you know if when I move a tarantula into a bigger enclosure or you know like 458 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:49,600 a mantis or whatever um then I clean the old one um so I've made a little short to kind of show you 459 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:55,680 how to do that and then the second plug that I have is actually a really it's a local business 460 00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:01,600 they're they're pretty small but they make these cute little clay mushroom thingies um and they are 461 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:08,960 called mixed up creations um I love these guys they've been around for close to 30 some odd years 462 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:16,560 um and these these necklaces are actually a lot of them are uh black light active and they glow in 463 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:22,400 the dark which makes them really cute and it's a small business so you're you're definitely 464 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:30,880 supporting uh local Colorado Denver so if you happen to be in the Denver area just just visiting 465 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:37,440 definitely check out mixed up creations they're on east colfex um just just a cool little shop 466 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:44,240 they also have uh smoking paraphernalia so there's there's some of that so it's a little it's you know 467 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:50,160 21 and over but you can definitely go in there they've got cool t-shirts and of course like that 468 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,120 necklace I'm not sponsored by them I just I just absolutely love them I've loved their necklaces 469 00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:00,880 for a long time so um and Lily says she loves that they do also have an online store and I'm 470 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:07,920 pretty sure that they will ship internationally I think I'm gonna have to get back to you guys on 471 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:14,640 that one I don't know but uh check out their online store I believe it's mixedupcreations.com 472 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:22,960 yep mixed up creations but it's spelled m-y-x-e-d so make sure you get that mixed up 473 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,840 but they're really cool it's a great store so you'll be supporting a good cause and 474 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:38,000 that's all I've got yeah just stay tuned next week what do you think should we do 475 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:44,720 we do dragonflies or what kind of topic are you thinking well I'll be your determinant 476 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:54,000 for dragonflies um I'm not letting the dragonflies go you know I yeah I'll do dragonflies okay 477 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,640 I'm good with that because you're not going to shut off the barrier until we do it so 478 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:05,760 so you're right you're absolutely I'm stuck on it okay dragonflies 479 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:15,440 yeah that'll be it'll be a fun show I'm sure and you know yeah it'll be fun I'll I'll I'll do my 480 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,200 you know usual research that I do if I can find some folklore on dragonflies I will also include 481 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:29,280 that like I usually do I'm in the video yes I know I know I love your video it was so beautiful and 482 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:37,040 I was so mad when when we couldn't correspond it I was just okay but we won't go there I'll 483 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:42,480 be sharing the video and annoying people with dragonflies until they're forced to watch yes 484 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:53,520 yes but otherwise um yeah so dragonflies next week look forward to that and check out Mantis 485 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,560 Garden check out tarantula otherwise thank you guys so much for watching thank you to everybody 486 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:13,600 who's listening um we'll see you uh next week see you later