1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,960 Hello, and welcome to InverteCast. 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:24,920 I am Leah from Torrentialia, and I have with me, as always, Simon from the Mantis Garden. 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,920 Hello, Simon. 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,160 Hello, Leah. 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:38,080 And our topic today is scorpions, and Simon and myself, we both have little guests to 6 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,080 show you. 7 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:47,000 So Simon here has an Asian forest scorpion, and I actually, I have the, let me look here, 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,000 do do do. 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Oh no, you know what, that's one that I didn't, because I was like, everybody knows that one. 10 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,880 I actually went with the emperor. 11 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,280 Whoops. 12 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:06,920 But I myself have a little pseudo scorpion right here with me. 13 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,280 So this is a tailless whip scorpion. 14 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,320 As you can see, that's my little buddy named Cheesecake. 15 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:20,000 So we're going to talk about these guys, because they are really, really cool. 16 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:29,160 If you can see that the tailless whip scorpion is moving these little whips all around. 17 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,920 They're essentially, they're little feelers. 18 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,920 So cool with things. 19 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Right, aren't they awesome? 20 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,080 So yeah, okay, we're going to talk about it. 21 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,240 And so, so firstly, what are scorpions, right? 22 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Like, they are arachnids, because they have two body segments, and they have eight legs 23 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,640 and two front pinchers. 24 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,920 So they are definitely arachnids in the arachnid family. 25 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:06,120 There are 1750 species worldwide that are described, because they're still discovering 26 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:12,200 species of scorpion pretty much everywhere. 27 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:19,560 And only 25 to about 30 of those species are actually dangerous to humans. 28 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:25,360 So yes. 29 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:30,360 And that, that means that the ones that are dangerous to us are the ones that have venom 30 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,240 that is, that can be lethal are known as hots. 31 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,440 So H-O-T-T. 32 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,120 Or if you ever, you know, like, it's kind of like reptiles in the reptile world. 33 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,840 If you have a hot reptile, it usually means that it's a venomous reptile or a venomous 34 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,160 snake, like a rattlesnake or a viper. 35 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:59,840 So the venom is produced in glands that are called telsons, which is located at the very 36 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,680 end of their tail. 37 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,920 However, their tail is not technically a tail. 38 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:08,520 It's actually a part of their digestive system. 39 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:14,680 So when, when they do inventimate, they are inventimating you through the same part in 40 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,480 which they defecate. 41 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,480 Poo-poo. 42 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,800 Yeah. 43 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:31,680 And they are among the first animals to have ever adapted to living on land, which means 44 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,560 that they are 420 million years old. 45 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:43,480 So yeah, I guess the first fossil that was ever found of a scorpion is 420 million years 46 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,480 old. 47 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,480 That's a lot. 48 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:54,320 Like as compared to other inverts that we talk about, that is really, really old. 49 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,880 Super good looking creatures though. 50 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,400 I mean, that they've never prehistoric in book. 51 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,400 Right. 52 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,600 So they're super adaptable too. 53 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:11,360 So like they, they pretty much live on every single continent except for Antarctica, which 54 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:16,960 definitely makes them really adaptable to all sorts of climates. 55 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:24,960 They live anywhere between, you know, the tropical jungles to grasslands to, to deserts. 56 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,240 So everywhere. 57 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,880 So a lot of cultures also have myths surrounding scorpions. 58 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Again, probably because they can be found pretty much anywhere on earth. 59 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:49,000 So of course people will garner interesting myths and legends about them. 60 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,600 As time goes on, my little buddy is just chilling. 61 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,280 Still just chilling. 62 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:56,280 They're so cool. 63 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:58,280 Yeah. 64 00:04:58,280 --> 00:04:59,280 Okay. 65 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:08,920 So in Egyptian mythology, the goddess Isis is also linked to a scorpion because she actually 66 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,160 is a symbol of a devoted mother. 67 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,800 And the scorpion moms are also very devoted and protective of their young. 68 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,800 So a little fun fact that people might not have known. 69 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:30,160 And some scorpions venom can have up to 45 different toxins. 70 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:36,960 So yes, we are going to also talk about the varying venom potency. 71 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,880 And we're going to go kind of into that and some of the symptoms that if you ever got 72 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,680 stung that you could possibly expect. 73 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,920 Another surprising fact about scorpions, I don't know if you know this Simon, but they 74 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,600 give birth to live young. 75 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,880 So they don't actually lay eggs acts. 76 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,840 Instead they keep the eggs inside their bodies. 77 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:06,800 And then when the baby scorpions are ready, they just give birth. 78 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Yep. 79 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,200 I've actually seen it. 80 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,320 Oh, wow. 81 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,680 I bet that was amazing. 82 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:23,200 The first real, I don't know how to put this, the first time I ever bought an invert from 83 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,200 a shop was the end for a scorpion. 84 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,520 We got a couple of them for scorpions. 85 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Oh, wow. 86 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,760 Early 90s, late 80s, something like that. 87 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,280 And one of them was pregnant. 88 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:40,640 Well what do you know? 89 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:48,280 So it dropped out the babies and they sat on its back for ages, which was just an amazing 90 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:50,320 thing to see really. 91 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Oh, absolutely. 92 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:57,120 If you've seen it when they're mating as well, that's also amazing. 93 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,120 It's equally as amazing. 94 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,120 Oh, I can imagine. 95 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,120 I've never seen it. 96 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,280 Yeah, they do a little dance and sort of hold hands if they are close. 97 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:12,640 And he drops his sperm packet on the floor and then drags her over it and they do this 98 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:18,440 little dance to make sure he's got her going over the sperm packet. 99 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,440 Right. 100 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Which is really an unusual way. 101 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,120 I've got to admit. 102 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,120 That is. 103 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,120 That's incredible. 104 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,760 I read about it. 105 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,840 It all got scorpions for 15 million years later. 106 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,360 So, you know. 107 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Wow. 108 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Yeah. 109 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,360 It works for them. 110 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,360 I'm fine. 111 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,360 I'm glad we don't do that. 112 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,360 But you know. 113 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Yeah. 114 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,360 She's getting jumped on me. 115 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,160 I was like, oh no. 116 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,160 Whole different meaning to dancing. 117 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,160 But yeah. 118 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Yeah. 119 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,160 Yeah. 120 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Quite a fascinating one to watch when they're mating. 121 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Absolutely. 122 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,120 I can imagine. 123 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,120 Truly fascinating. 124 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:05,120 And that did not as aggressive as the movies would have you believe. 125 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Right. 126 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Absolutely. 127 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,120 So, we're going to get into. 128 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,120 I'm sorry. 129 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,120 I'm trying to get cheesecake to not. 130 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Because that's why I carried on waffling home. 131 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,120 Don't run away from me. 132 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Oh my goodness. 133 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:26,200 I mean, in the movies, you have to believe that like every scorpion is deadly and that 134 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,120 every scorpion is just able to get you. 135 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,120 Yeah. 136 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,120 And that is. 137 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,120 That is nowhere. 138 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,120 And it's pretty much like tranquility really have to, you know, wind them up to from to 139 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,120 bite you. 140 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,120 Right. 141 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:43,120 And most of them, like you say, which have already touched on. 142 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Don't really do anything so terrible. 143 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,120 I mean, you're definitely going to go out. 144 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,120 There's definitely going to be an out. 145 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,120 Yeah. 146 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,120 And if you're older, possibly a few choice words, I should imagine. 147 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Right. 148 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Right. 149 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,120 Right. 150 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,120 And I think that would be a need to like treat the steam and, you know, get some medicine 151 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,120 because they are, it can be a really quite painful. 152 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Inventimation like it's, it's a lot like. 153 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:17,120 For them, the least potent venom, it's a lot like a bee sting or like a wasp sting. 154 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:23,120 But for a few others, it's going to be a lot more severe. 155 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,120 Oh my goodness. 156 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,120 So that's about, you know, the description with that, because if you've never noticed, 157 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,120 they always say the same thing everywhere. 158 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,120 Yeah. 159 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Stung by something or bitten by something and then animated always say it's like a bee 160 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,120 or a wasp. 161 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:51,120 Always the same comparison that they use. 162 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:58,120 And I wonder if it's just because like being wasps things are just so much more common 163 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,120 than anything else. 164 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,120 And that's just something that everybody can relate to. 165 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,120 I don't know why that is. 166 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,120 That's interesting. 167 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,120 It's done by a wasp. 168 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Let's be honest. 169 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,120 If it's done by a wasp, you go out and then you brush it off. 170 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,120 It's gone. 171 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,120 It's not, it's not, it's not a big deal at all. 172 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Just some by a wasp. 173 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,120 It's no big deal. 174 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:25,120 I, when we first moved in this house, I removed a wasp nest from outside and my head got stung 175 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,120 about 50 times. 176 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Oh, and it came out because I didn't know the wasp nest was there and fell down and whatnot. 177 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:39,120 And I've got about 50 times and all it did is make me scratch my head for about five minutes 178 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,120 and then it was done, you know. 179 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:47,120 With like tarantulas and scorpions and centipedes. 180 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,120 There'd be no point warning anybody about sure. 181 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Yeah. 182 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:59,120 The distinction is that these actually do cause or can cause excruciating pain. 183 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,120 Oh. 184 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:06,120 Whereas wasps, these hurt a little bit more than wasps, I would say. 185 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,120 I've been stung by both and I'd say bees hurt a little bit more. 186 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,120 I agree. 187 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:17,120 Actually, I do, and I do think that scorpions probably do hurt more mainly because they 188 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,120 have a neurotoxin in their, in their venom. 189 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:26,120 So most scorpions have neurotoxins, which will attack the nerves of muscles and the nervous 190 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,120 central nervous system and stuff. 191 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:35,120 So, so that's going to create a little more pain than like a bee sting, which is usually 192 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,120 localized at like the sting center, if you will. 193 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:47,120 I got cheesecake back in Cheese Cokes Proper Enclosure, thankfully. 194 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,120 Nice and gently, you know, but they are really wicked fast. 195 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,120 Just so wicked, wicked fast. 196 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,120 You can start with the bag. 197 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:04,120 Yeah, like probably about as fast as my post-lithera, you know, Metallica tarantulas. 198 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,120 They're very fast. 199 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:14,120 I'm excited to stay under the camera rather than in front of it. 200 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,120 Sorry about that. 201 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Yeah, right. 202 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,120 No, you're fine. 203 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,120 That is okay. 204 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,120 All right. 205 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,120 I'm trying to keep it where the camera is, but I'm trying not to stress at the same time. 206 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,120 I don't want to keep poking over the brush. 207 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Right. 208 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,120 And that's why I put cheesecake away because I don't want to stress cheesecake out as too 209 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,120 much more than I needed to. 210 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,120 But yeah, scorpions are really fascinating creatures. 211 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:42,120 The largest family of scorpions are like consists of over 800 species. 212 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:49,120 And I believe it's the hot and, no, not the hot and tauta, but let me see. 213 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Oh, Buthidae. 214 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:58,120 So the Buthidae genus and family is the largest family. 215 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:06,320 All right, so I was going to get into like a few scorpions that you will probably see 216 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,120 in the hobby as pets. 217 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:15,120 Like these are kind of considered beginner pets or beginner species of scorpions. 218 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,120 Like, you know, if you're getting into the hobby of keeping scorpions, you're probably 219 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,120 going to want a scorpion that isn't super hot. 220 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:30,120 But it's one that, you know, if you do get stung, it's not going to be as much of an issue 221 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,120 as others. 222 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:36,120 But it's also, you know, you're looking for a scorpion that is going to be kind of docile 223 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,120 and just easy, easily handleable. 224 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,120 They tolerate a lot of, you know, husbandry mistakes, stuff like that. 225 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:52,120 So the first scorpion that I have on this list would be the Emperor Scorpion, which is 226 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,120 similar to the one you have there. 227 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,120 But the Pandanus Imperator. 228 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:04,120 So the Emperor Scorpion is probably the scorpion that everyone thinks about when they think 229 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,120 about scorpions. 230 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:11,120 Like if you think of a pet scorpion, you are going to be thinking about that big black 231 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:17,120 scorpion that is just bulky and incredibly intimidating, right? 232 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:23,120 But the funny thing about it is that they are actually really docile and their venom 233 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,240 is pretty mild. 234 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,240 So there will be like localized pain and reaction. 235 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,040 But these guys get relatively big. 236 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,120 They get about six to eight inches length. 237 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:43,520 And like I said, they're, they have a large body that's shiny and black and they're, they're 238 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,520 kind of thick. 239 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:50,520 And they're like dark and broody looking. 240 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,520 What, what can you tell us about the Asian forest scorpion there? 241 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,520 I probably don't know more about the Emperor Scorpion because that's one I had those for 242 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,520 a few years. 243 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,520 I mean, I tell you what the Emperor Scorpion does to manual. 244 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,520 It reminds me of a lobster that's been sprayed black. 245 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,520 That's basically what it looks like to me. 246 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,520 That's, that's always what I see when I see the, the thing. 247 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,520 They're just stung up on and they, they don't really hurt. 248 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,520 So I can honestly say that they don't really hurt. 249 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,520 They don't, they don't have any extra adverse effects. 250 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Like there's no, you know, you're not bleeding from your eyes or vomiting or running to the 251 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,520 toilet. 252 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,520 There's nothing like that. 253 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,520 And with them, but these guys, these guys are slightly different. 254 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,520 If these, again, you'll, if you read up on them, they'll tell you a bee sting, but it's 255 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,520 more than a bee sting. 256 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,520 And they can also, it's excruciating pain that's localized. 257 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,520 They can't be swapping. 258 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,520 And also this little guy can make you vomit. 259 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,520 So, oh, I believe it. 260 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Yeah. 261 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Absolutely. 262 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,520 You know, it's a whole lot more than a bear was for that whole lot more. 263 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,520 But generally, quite docile, as you see. 264 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,520 Yeah, they're not, you know, they're not out to sting you. 265 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,520 It takes a lot of energy for them to even create that venom. 266 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,520 So they don't want to waste it on something that they're not going to eat. 267 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Yeah, it's the same with tarantulas. 268 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Like they, it takes a lot of energy for them to create their venom as well. 269 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,520 So they're going to be slow to bite just because they don't want to waste their venom on, you 270 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:37,520 know, something they are not going to munch down on, if you will. 271 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,520 It's not something you should pick up. 272 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,520 I mean, advise anybody who's doing it. 273 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,520 It's not somebody, it's not an animal that you should be handling. 274 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:52,520 But for numerous reasons, not only because of what they can do to you, it's because you can address them out. 275 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,520 They're a very nervous animal, like to lie, they're not eternal. 276 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Any animals like spiders. 277 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,520 So you shouldn't really be be handling them anyway. 278 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,520 So if you want a pet, you can handle, don't get a scorpion. 279 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Or yeah, no doubt. 280 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Scorpions are, they're, they're very quick and they're also really tricky. 281 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:20,520 So if you happen to like lose control of that scorpion say, and it gets away from you, you might not 282 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,520 ever find it again, because they can, they can, they're flat. 283 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:31,520 So they can slip under, you know, under door frames, under rocks, under anything in your house or whatever, pretty 284 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,520 easy without you even realizing it. 285 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,520 So yeah, like, I agree with you. 286 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:44,520 I don't think that scorpions are as great of a handleable pet. 287 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,520 But I also don't think that people who are interested in scorpions are interested in handling them. 288 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,520 At least I would hope not. 289 00:17:52,520 --> 00:18:00,520 But I mean, I have seen like videos, lots and lots of videos of people handling emperor scorpions. 290 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:06,520 And I have met emperor scorpion, like ambassadors. 291 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,520 So, you know, animal ambassadors. 292 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:15,520 So these are animals that like Rosie here and at the butterfly pavilion. 293 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:25,520 She's a Gramastola Rosea that is well adapted to the handling because it's just kind of an exercise for them. 294 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:31,520 And they are there to help teach people about arachnids. 295 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:41,520 And so I've seen emperor scorpions in that same role for people that are, you know, interested in learning about scorpions. 296 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:53,520 So the next, like, good pet scorpion that I have on my list is the Tanzanian red claw, also known as well scientifically known as the 297 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Pandignus, Cavamanus. 298 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:07,520 These guys are a little more aggressive than the emperor scorpions and they will stand their ground and be a little more willing to sting. 299 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,520 They get about four to five inches. 300 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:15,520 They also are black, but they typically have those rusty red claws. 301 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,520 So those two front pinchers are going to be a red color. 302 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Do you have any experience with those guys? 303 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,520 I do not. 304 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,520 I mean, I don't have much experience with scorpions full stop. 305 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:32,520 I mean, we had the like, said the emperor scorpions years ago. 306 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:38,520 And I mean, I just realized now it's nearly 35 years ago. 307 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Oh, wow. 308 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,520 It makes you appreciate how old you really are. 309 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:52,520 And yeah, so there was a long time ago and it's when it's the only scorpion you could you could get really here. 310 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,520 I mean, you don't remember where on an island where we don't have any scorpions. 311 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,520 Sure. 312 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,520 Yeah. 313 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,520 And inverts weren't really a big pet thing. 314 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:07,520 It was just like the the the the rosy tarantula. 315 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:12,520 And yeah, and pretty much the emperor scorpion and stick. 316 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:19,520 That was that was fairly much what was only available back in in the 80s when people started noticing them. 317 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,520 So no, I don't have I know what they are. 318 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,520 I know which one you're talking about, but I've no other experience of it. 319 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,520 Sure. 320 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Yeah, yeah. 321 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,520 That's okay. 322 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:39,520 I've got someone who will be here spending New Year with us from Norway who absolutely loves scorpions. 323 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,520 It's called Trond. He's also a YouTuber. 324 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,520 So cool. 325 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Okay. 326 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Yeah. 327 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Give me full scorpion rundown to give you more information that I could ever find on Google. 328 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,520 Oh, so so I'm looking forward to having a scorpion lessons. 329 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Yeah. 330 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,520 On New Year's Eve. 331 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,520 So I mean, and I get it. 332 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,520 I get the whole Google search thing because I'm really picky about my research. 333 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:14,520 So when I research, you know, for likes, work, beans and stuff, I'm looking for scientific based articles. 334 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,520 So like, let's see a lot of this that I got. 335 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,520 I got from the San Diego zoo.org. 336 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:35,520 And then I also got a couple of, you know, couple other articles from from mostly like educational. 337 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,520 What's the word I'm working for? 338 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Institutions. Yeah, that's the word. 339 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,520 Okay. 340 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,520 So, okay. 341 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,520 So that's what you have to do. 342 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:54,520 You have to figure out where the information is coming from and it's not right. 343 00:21:54,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Or that's the person's experience with the one scarring they've had. 344 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Yeah, that's not going to be, you know, you know, as reliable. 345 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:10,520 But I have a full full information on it and from a reputable place. 346 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:22,520 I find that if you're going to look for deep information on something, Google scholar is isn't that bad because it actually directs you to papers and studies. 347 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Oh, see, and I didn't even know that existed. 348 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,520 So I need to get into that. 349 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:34,520 I'm over here doing the old fashioned way looking for the net and dot orgs. 350 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,520 And actually typing Google scholar. 351 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Okay, you know, an entirely different Google, which is just studies and scientific papers. 352 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,520 There is no Wikipedia. 353 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,520 There's no. 354 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:57,520 There's no general people if you like everybody on there's got a doctor before the name or a PhD after it. 355 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:04,520 Okay, see, that's that's the information is is is where, yeah, like some of the best information. 356 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,520 I found some of the worst. 357 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:15,520 So, the cherry pick that as well because some of it some of it can be a bit. 358 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:28,520 So, unless you know that the doctor or whoever the professors is wrote the paper before there's a good chance that it's it's possibly just students. 359 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Right, you've got to be careful with that as well. 360 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,520 So yeah, but Google scholar than just Google. 361 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:45,520 I will I'm definitely going to need to check that out for sure because I you know I'm a very scientific minded kind of person as it is. 362 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:53,520 And I, you know, when it comes to like doing any kind of research, I'm looking for the best knowledge I could possibly find. 363 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,520 And I think I found some really good stuff so. 364 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,520 Yeah, so common, you know common scorpion pets. 365 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:09,520 So common scorpion pets are going to be, you know, like I said, the emperor. 366 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:17,520 And then the next one on my list is the heteromatous matrix spinnaker, also known as the Malaysian black scorpion. 367 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,520 This is a tropical species. 368 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,520 And that's actually sorry. 369 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:29,520 That's actually, that's actually the Asian forest scorpion is like this big common name. 370 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,520 So it's like this one which is the etymetres. 371 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Longy manus and then you've got some others as well. 372 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,520 I'm not very good with the Latin names of scorpions. 373 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,520 But that's okay. 374 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,520 The all come under the heading of Asian forest scorpion. 375 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520 Okay. Yeah, well that makes sense. 376 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,520 It was kind of like kind of like the African giant snails right the land snails. 377 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Yeah, I'm like Asian mantis and you know spiders as well. 378 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:11,520 But it's just a typical common name for that anything in that region that's a little black scorpion that lives in the forest really. 379 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,520 Yeah, no makes total sense. 380 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:28,520 Yeah, okay, so cool. So the Malaysian black scorpion is essentially like the scorpion that you have there on the screen, kind of different different species. 381 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:37,520 But I think the only difference or, you know, more or less the only difference is is the region where they call Friday I was like Malaysia. 382 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,520 I think it's from Vietnam. 383 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Well, that's a very it's a large area. 384 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Cambodia and that's got a different name. 385 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:57,520 But it's pretty much the same scorpion and when you when you buy an Asian forest scorpion, you need to know the scientific name to make sure you get the right one. 386 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,520 So if you feel like if you've got one at home, you think I want to breathe those I'm getting a little one. 387 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,520 Don't buy it from Asian forest scorpion. 388 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,520 You need to buy scientific name only. 389 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,520 Absolutely. 390 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,520 Same across both of everything. 391 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,520 There's an invert. 392 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Oh, I agree. 393 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,520 There's lots of them that do look very, very similar to each other. 394 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:23,520 And some of them that you only know by dissecting and seeing the genitals that they're only difference. 395 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,520 So yeah, and that's not something you're going to do if you want to breathe them. 396 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,520 Yeah, no, of course, right. 397 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:38,520 You're getting the right the right one, the right scorpion from the right area and etc. 398 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,520 Otherwise, just going to fight really. 399 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,520 Yeah, absolutely. 400 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:50,520 I mean, dude, for real, I mean, you got to be careful with what you're buying. 401 00:26:50,520 --> 00:27:06,520 Even in tarantulas in the tarantula world, like there's, you know, so many different kind of Mexican red knees or fire legs or red knee or, you know, or fire knee, you know, all these things, but it's easy to get those species mixed up. 402 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:12,520 So it's much better if you just go with the scientific name always. 403 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:19,520 Okay, so my next topic of discussion is spicy scorpions. 404 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:28,520 So these are going to be the scorpions that if you do get stung by them, you are probably going to need to go to the doctor because it's, it can be a big deal. 405 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:37,520 And I think this is kind of what everybody's really afraid of when it comes down to being fearful of a scorpion. I think that this is what it is. 406 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:44,520 They, you know, they're fearful of the sting and the effects of it because it's kind of that unknown realm. 407 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,520 So let's talk about the spicy guys. 408 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:58,520 And all this information on the super spicy scorpions I got from herpetoculturenetwork.com. 409 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:06,520 So the first one on this list is the hot and tada, hot and tada, which is the African bark scorpion. 410 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:13,520 They range like anywhere, pretty much in North Africa and East India, and even in Nepal. 411 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:24,520 And they are the most toxic of this general species or genus is the hot and tada tamuus. 412 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:35,520 And they are responsible for the most most deaths from scorpion stings in the whole world year every year. 413 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:45,520 But it's still relatively rare for people to be stung by these by like a hot and tada and stuff because they are really shy and reclusive. 414 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:55,520 So again, like it's probably accidental. Maybe the scorpion was in a shoe, you know, and somebody put their shoe on or they just didn't see it, something like that. 415 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,520 So usually it's just that accidental stinging, if you will. 416 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:08,520 But the hot and tada, hot and tada is also called a yellow bark scorpion, striped bark scorpion and African bark. 417 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,520 They stay small, so they're relatively about two inches. 418 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:22,520 And they can reproduce parthenogenically, which means they don't need a female can can basically have babies without the male's help. 419 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,520 So let's talk about their venom. 420 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:33,520 So it is very potent, but it's not quite life threatening. 421 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:41,520 But it will cause agonizingly painful sting, hot searing pain like a stove burn. 422 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:49,520 It's very fast acting and it will cause swelling and it can last anywhere from six to 10 hours. 423 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:56,520 So the hot and tada is definitely not a scorpion that you want to take a sting from. 424 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,520 But as I said, they are really super shy and reclusive. 425 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:06,520 So the chances of that actually happening are really slim. 426 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:21,520 So yeah, the next spicy scorpion I've got is the Centroides Sculptoratus, also known as the Arizona, Arizona bark scorpion. 427 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:29,520 I'm so pleased that you I've got all the scientific names there in front of you and I don't have to read them because I would murder these. 428 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,520 I'm sure I'm terrified. Like I'm sure I'm just butchering them. 429 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,520 But the Arizona bark. 430 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,520 I said, that's why I'm glad you've got them and not me. 431 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,520 Right. I mean, hey, I took a few years of Latin in high school, so I'm working. 432 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,520 I'm fine. It's OK. I'm stretching those brain muscles now. 433 00:30:53,520 --> 00:31:05,520 But yeah, this is a scorpion that's native to Arizona, you know, the US actually most of the the Southwest West region of the US and parts of Mexico. 434 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:11,520 But and it's also another scorpion that is really popular in the pet trade. 435 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,520 I see Arizona bark scorpions all the time. 436 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:30,520 So these guys are pretty awesome. They pretty much live under like fallen timber, dead cactus skeletons, and they range like from California all the way to probably parts of Colorado. 437 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,520 I think I've seen a few in Colorado, but like South Southwest. 438 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:45,520 These guys only get about three inches in length and they're super flat so they can again get underneath things very quickly and easily. 439 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:57,520 And their pinchers are usually long and thin and they are the most toxic scorpion native to North America. 440 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,520 So let's talk about their venom and its effects. 441 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,520 It can be painful and debilitating. 442 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:13,520 There is flaming pain, paralysis of the joints and muscles, obviously, and then an uncontrollable vomiting. 443 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:19,520 So the Arizona bark scorpion is one of those Simon that will make you vomit. 444 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,520 Nice. 445 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Right. 446 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,520 There's a bit of short shortness of breath. 447 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,520 I know a bit. 448 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Sorry. 449 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,520 You can keep America. I'm out of it. We were okay over a week. 450 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,520 I like it that way. 451 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,520 You stay over there. 452 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,520 Yeah. 453 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:50,520 Yeah. Okay. So shortness of breath is also going to be a symptom of their venom. 454 00:32:50,520 --> 00:33:02,520 And so this is a scorpion sting that you are going to need some medical attention for and their venom effects can last for about 72 hours. 455 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,520 So that's a good three days. 456 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,520 Like I do not want to be stung by one of these guys for sure. 457 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,520 However. 458 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,520 That's horrible. 459 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,520 Three days and absolutely. 460 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,520 Yeah. 461 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,520 Misery. Just misery. 462 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,520 No. 463 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,520 Like having the flu without actually ever having the flu is what it sounds like to me. 464 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:31,520 Like super, super sore muscles, super sore joints, you know, like vomiting and stuff. 465 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,520 It just does. 466 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Yeah. 467 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,520 Definitely. 468 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,520 We can buy them here. 469 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,520 Oh yeah. 470 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:48,520 Here we've got, we've got, we call a DWA license. I don't know if you have that in America, but it's just dangerous wild animals act. 471 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:55,520 And we have to know a license from our local council to keep anything that's particularly spicy. 472 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,520 Oh, okay. 473 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:05,520 People to, you know, anything that might involve medical care, really. 474 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Okay. 475 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:13,520 You have to actually get a license to, to say I've proved that you can, you can look after it and you know what you're doing. 476 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:20,520 Like, like a 15 year old isn't going to be able to go out in the pet shop by one, you know, right. 477 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:28,520 You know what you're doing and prove that you can, you can look after these things before you can get a license and it costs you money. 478 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,520 So people, people don't want to pay. 479 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:40,520 So, you know, I like to, I like to hang in there. Sorry. 480 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Delay delay. 481 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,520 No, no, no, that was me. I, I swallowed my coffee wrong. 482 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,520 Oh my goodness. 483 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,520 It went down the wrong tube. 484 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,520 Okay, so. 485 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,520 Yeah, that's interesting. We do not have that. 486 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:08,520 We don't have that, at least not in Colorado. There might be other states that do require for you to have like that kind of license. 487 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,520 But as far as I know, it's not, not a thing here where I live. 488 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,520 So I'm kind of lucky for that. 489 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,520 Okay, so the. 490 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Yeah. Okay. So the, the next spicy scorpion on my list. 491 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:35,520 Is the androctonus bicolor, which is known as the black thick tail scorpion. 492 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:46,520 These guys, again, are another one that I see a lot at like the reptile stores or exotic pet stores, you know, I see these guys a lot. 493 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,520 And so they're really cool though. 494 00:35:49,520 --> 00:36:02,520 They're native to North Africa. So another African species and the near East, the name and drachtonus actually translates to man murderer in ancient Greece. 495 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,520 Nice. 496 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,520 Yeah. 497 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,520 But they have a very oversized tail. 498 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:16,520 It's large and kind of fat and very distinct to this one genus. 499 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,520 They're about three inches in length. 500 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,520 And these guys can be quick to sting. So if you do mess with them, they are not afraid to sting you. 501 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:37,520 So it, in relative terms for my tarantula friends, they are going to be like the serial because genus they are, they will stand their ground. 502 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,520 They'll turn around. They, they're not afraid to sting you. 503 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,520 And that actually can be. 504 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,520 Sounds like an OVC. 505 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:57,520 Yeah. Actually, OVTs aren't as half as spicy as my serial because and kill a bracket species, I think OVTs are pretty awesome. 506 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,520 I mean, they'll threat pose for for days. 507 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,520 They'll threat pose for days and days and days. 508 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520 But that's pretty much all they'll do. 509 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,520 And then they'll run away. 510 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:15,520 Whereas the serial because we'll threat pose, slap, and then eventually just they'll be like, you know what, you get it. You're getting it. 511 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:21,520 So yeah, I mean, I don't, don't ask me how I know that. 512 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:29,520 I just, I have rehoused enough of them to get kind of a feel for like their behavior and their, their body language. 513 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:38,520 And OVTs for me are really, really mild compared to the serial because and kill broccoli's that I've dealt with. 514 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,520 Those guys will straight up turn around and be like, really, you want some? 515 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,520 Okay, I'm going to give it to you. 516 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,520 You know, like they'll give it to you. 517 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,520 They will. They won't, they won't hesitate. 518 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:54,520 So, so this is true also for the androctinous by color. 519 00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:00,520 These guys are a standard ground kind of tarantula. 520 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,520 They are their venom is highly concentrated. 521 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,520 And it is a neurotoxin. 522 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:21,520 So this neurotoxin that they contain actually will attack the muscles of the respiratory system, which means that the nerves will become disabled and it can lead to paralysis. 523 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:30,520 So definitely not a fun time if you happen to get stung by a fat tail scorpion, black fat tail scorpion. 524 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:37,520 It also will cause abdominal convulsions and eventually respiratory failure. 525 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:45,520 So this is another scorpion that medical attention, if you do get stung is going to be a must. 526 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:53,520 So yeah, definitely watch it with those guys. They are probably one of the spiciest of the spicy. 527 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,520 And as I said, they're not afraid to sting. 528 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:11,520 And then the last one on my spicy scorpion list is the Lyrus quinquestriatus, also known as the Israeli death stalker. 529 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:20,520 And again, another scorpion that I have seen pretty often at reptile stores or expos and stuff like that. 530 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,520 This is not a beginner scorpion species. 531 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,520 Like these guys are pretty, pretty, pretty tough, dude. 532 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,520 Anyhow, they are a two-metre species. 533 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,520 When they are provoked, they can unleash a barrage of stings. 534 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:45,520 So not just one sting, a barrage like a whole bunch of them in multiple directions from a long, thin tail. 535 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:54,520 They have a unique defensive posture in which they stretch out their petty pelts and they will stand their tail straight up. 536 00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:01,520 And they also are a little larger. They usually get over three inches or so in length. 537 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,520 So here comes all the fun stuff about their venom. 538 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:17,520 They are lethal, but for most healthy adults, you can survive a sting from this scorpion with a little help from medical attention. 539 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,520 So the anti-venom. 540 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:29,520 It's a neurotoxic venom. It disrupts portions, proteins in the nerve chains that turn things off, essentially. 541 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,520 They attack mostly the heart and lung nerve system. 542 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,520 So that's the, I believe the parasympathetic, no. 543 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,520 That's the sympathetic nerve system. 544 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:50,520 Yeah. So they also contain cardiotoxins that attack the heart and will disable the nerve pathways that control the heart. 545 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,520 And they also attack the lungs and cause pulmonary edema. 546 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:04,520 So this venom is pretty potent. If you happen to have any kind of heart conditions, you are definitely not somebody who wants to get a stung from these guys. 547 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:10,520 So the death stalker scorpion, I mean, that sounds pretty scary. 548 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,520 Like, so spicy. 549 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,520 I dealt into these a while back, but when I wrote the last book on hedgehogs. 550 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,520 Oh, yeah. 551 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:25,520 The death stalker was one of the scorpions that the desert ad job likes to eat. 552 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,520 Oh, really? 553 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:33,520 Yeah. So I had to, I had to delve into it a little bit on that side of it, see, you know, what the score was with it. 554 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,520 And it was, yeah, it was, it was lunch. I think it was on the menu. 555 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,520 So that's fascinating. 556 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:46,520 And they're smart enough to actually grab them by the stinger and bite the stinger off. 557 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:56,520 Wow. Before the evening. So, you know, are they, are they like immune to the venom? Are they kind of like possums in that way where, you know, possums are immune to. 558 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,520 They're not immune. They're just clever. 559 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,520 Wow. 560 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,520 They're just really smart. You know, clever little thing. 561 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,520 The quicker to retract and the scorpion is to attack. 562 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,520 That's cool. 563 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,520 So they can, you know, they can retract pull it pull a face in and they like leave the spines out. 564 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,520 Right. 565 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,520 Scorpion, scorpion never gets really a chance to sting them anyway. 566 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,520 They'll take the opportunity, grab all the stinger and bite the stinger off. 567 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,520 And then just go up and pre meal. 568 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520 Nice. 569 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,520 That's, that's incredible. 570 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,520 I mean, it sounds a lot like, you know, cats with snakes. 571 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,520 Yeah. 572 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:44,520 Like I've seen, you've seen those videos, I'm sure of like there's a stray cat somewhere that's just, you know, come across. 573 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:54,520 A rattlesnake and for whatever reason, the cat is just outsmarting this rattlesnake like, yeah, you can't get me. 574 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,520 Yeah. 575 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,520 Yeah. 576 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,520 I mean, among the snakes, isn't it? 577 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,520 It's like, yeah, just smarter than inverts as simple as that. 578 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,520 And it's just the way, the way world is. 579 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520 Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. 580 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:15,520 Okay, so the last kind of scorpion that I have to talk about are pseudoscorpions. 581 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,520 These guys are much like my little friend cheesecake here. 582 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,520 This is cheesecake is a pseudoscorpion. 583 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,520 I don't think we can see cheesecake. 584 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:32,520 Well, in any case, at the beginning of the stream, I had cheesecake on my hand. 585 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:47,520 So yeah, cheesecake is a talus whip scorpion. There are all kinds of pseudoscorpions, which actually include ticks, mites, and what was the last one? 586 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,520 Tick mites, oh, and fleas. 587 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,520 So these are all arachnids. 588 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,520 They are also considered pseudoscorpions. 589 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,520 A lot of these creatures are ones that people see as pests. 590 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:06,520 Obviously ticks, bites, and fleas are going to be something that you want to keep off of your furry friends like dogs and cats. 591 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:11,520 They can cause skin irritations and infections. 592 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:17,520 Actually, my youngest cat, Stevie, is allergic to flea bites. 593 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:28,520 So if he gets flea bites or for any reason, he'll be really, really itchy and scratch himself to death. 594 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,520 So poor kitty. 595 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,520 But in any case, pseudoscorpions are pretty cool. 596 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,520 I've got, like I said, I have cheesecake. 597 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:45,520 Cheesecake is a talus whip scorpion, which actually just pretty much describes this creature pretty well. 598 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:56,520 They don't have like a tail like a scorpion does, but they do have those two front pinchers that stem from their, their petty palp area. 599 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:06,520 But then they also have these really long, really strange and slow moving antenna like things, which are their whips. 600 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:19,520 And those are essentially, they use them as feelers to feel around their environment, feel for other inverts that they might prey on because their eyesight is really not that great. 601 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:26,520 And obviously, talus whip scorpions are not venomous, so they're not harmful to people. 602 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:39,520 I mean, they probably can pinch you, they could probably pinch your skin, but it's not going to be, you know, as devastating or painful as, say, like a scorpion sting, right? 603 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:48,520 Another species of pseudoscorpion that you will see in the invert hobby is going to be those vinaigroons. 604 00:45:48,520 --> 00:46:02,520 And those guys actually got their name because they, as a defense mechanism, spray a really stinky, potent chemical, and it actually smells a lot like vinegar. 605 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,520 So it's actually a deterrent for bigger, larger predators. 606 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:17,520 So vinegar is, is, if you know vinegar, it's kind of a bitter, not the most fun smell in the world, but definitely one that will chase away a larger predator trying to snag a meal. 607 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,520 Vinaigroons also have pinchers in the front of their bodies. 608 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,520 I believe their pinchers are a little bit fatter, but they're not quite as long. 609 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,520 And they do also eat other inverts. 610 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:41,520 But yeah, and both of these, like the talus whip scorpion, are native to the States, and so are vinaigroons. 611 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,520 They are native here to North America. 612 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:54,520 Yeah. And Simon, you were saying that you were looking for talus whip scorpions, but you can never find them, yeah? 613 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,520 I can never, you know, never really find. 614 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:04,520 So I thought, I thought captive brecwons, I mean, obviously, we get wild caught ones here. 615 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:12,520 And I really agree with the wild caught thing, especially when, when people have brecwons here. 616 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:19,520 So that is the possibility. So once we start breeding them in a place, you can stop the wild caught. 617 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,520 Right. 618 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,520 So I'm really looking for somebody who does captive breed them. 619 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,520 I would like a few of those. 620 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,520 And I'm actually going to go up and breed them myself. 621 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:36,520 I mean, they're really weird, alien looking creature. 622 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,520 They really are, but they're just, they're so cool. 623 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,520 I think they're, they're fascinating. 624 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,520 There's also the vinaigroon, as she said, and that's another one. 625 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:57,520 I can't think of anybody in this country. I'm sure there is, but I can't think of anybody over here that's captive bred those yet. 626 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,520 Yeah. 627 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,520 Off the top of her head, I'm not saying they haven't. 628 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,520 I'm saying, I don't know of anybody you ask. 629 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,520 Every time I see them for sale, they're always wild caught and they just put it on. 630 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,520 Yeah. 631 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,520 You don't know what they've got on them. You don't need to go parasite. 632 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,520 You don't know, you know, you don't know if you're going to die five minutes after you've fought it. 633 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,520 So yeah. 634 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:26,520 Well, and especially the pseudoscorpions, they honestly, they only live for about three to five years. 635 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,520 Yeah. 636 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,520 Same with vinaigroon. 637 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:34,520 So I mean, if they, they go out and they wild catch, they catch a, a already an adult vinaigroon. 638 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:40,520 I mean, you don't know how old it is. It could die during shipping or in transit and things like that. 639 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,520 So it's just kind of a bummer. 640 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,520 I agree. 641 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,520 I don't fancy the idea. I mean, I would like vinaigroons. I would like. 642 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,520 I did. 643 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,520 I mean, I missed out, which, which annoys me really. 644 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:04,520 I was busy. I didn't have the room and I was, I was as drag sort this place out at the time. 645 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,520 And I thought, I'll put that off. 646 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,520 You'll have them. 647 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,520 And he got rid of all these. 648 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,520 So I was, I was out of luck there. 649 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,520 Been a future. 650 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:18,520 I'm hoping, excuse me, to pick up a couple and attempt to breathe them myself. 651 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,520 Yeah. 652 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,520 I think that'd be a great idea. 653 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,520 Yeah. 654 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,520 Not a lot of people here have them. 655 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,520 Right. 656 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:26,520 I see. 657 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,520 I think that's a good idea. 658 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,520 You see them at shows quite a bit. 659 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,520 Oh, I bet. Yeah. 660 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,520 There's always someone selling them in shows, which is, you know, 661 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,520 but again, you don't know where to come from. 662 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,520 You don't need the wild call. 663 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,520 Right. 664 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,520 It's not very long. So, you know, 665 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,520 you can end up getting something that's going to die in five minutes. 666 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,520 I don't want that. 667 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,520 Right. And that's, you know, that's a total drag. 668 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,520 I agree with you. I think I would. 669 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,520 I think I would. 670 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,520 I would really prefer captive. 671 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,520 Bread. 672 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,520 My Taylor Swift scorpion cheesecake. 673 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,520 Is really cool. I got it as a little youngster. 674 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,520 So I'm pretty sure that someone captive bred them. 675 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,520 Here somewhere around here. 676 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,520 Because again, like that, but they are a native species. 677 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,520 So I mean, I don't really know. 678 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,520 I probably should have looked, but this is, 679 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,520 um, I don't really know about the scorpion. 680 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,520 You know, what the scorpion? 681 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,520 I do see it as a non blepage. I, 682 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,520 these are the creatures that I bring out when I know I have, 683 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,520 like an arachnid Ragnophobe. 684 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,520 In my house and they don't all see spiders. 685 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,520 So instead I will bring out the pseudo scorpion and tell them all about 686 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:49,520 how it's pretty much blind. 687 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,200 But yeah, that's kind of what I do as far as that goes 688 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,400 I bet like the jumping spider thing you bring out the jumping spider. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 689 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,920 I 690 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,800 Pat jumping spider 691 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,920 Exactly like that's kind of the same idea like these guys are so weird-looking that they are 692 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,520 cute so 693 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,640 People you know people actually really enjoy it. It's kind of entertaining for them as well 694 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,200 So yeah, I will always have my tail is whip scorpion and 695 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:30,880 You know if you guys were following us from the very beginning you could actually see that mine is 696 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,200 more afraid of me than I am of of it and 697 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,160 You know what I mean like they're not they're not out to get you 698 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,760 Definitely not. I think that's something I would probably handle more 699 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,520 Would be a tail of the scorpion get it used to me 700 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:54,440 Yeah, definitely because that they don't concern me at all. Oh, I tell you what there was one thing 701 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,200 We didn't go over with the scorpions which was 702 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,320 a 703 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,880 Good way of telling which scorpions are spicy and which ones aren't 704 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,000 Hmm, which is generally the size of the claws 705 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:13,960 It's it's got really it usually means that they have a weaker sting. Oh 706 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,360 That's fascinating 707 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,680 So I see the bigger the claws the less the thing the same the smaller the claws 708 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:29,440 Stay away from it. It's gonna. It's gonna. I'd be you know, it's gonna. It's gonna cause some pain. Oh, that's fascinating 709 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:34,680 Okay, and now that I'm thinking about it that actually checks out 710 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,680 Yeah 711 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,920 That checks out like yeah, the Arizona bark scorpion has those real 712 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:49,400 Yeah, evolution is said by I'm gonna bite things with my with my claws so I don't need bigger claws 713 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:56,320 Yeah, the much and the other ones are like now. I like stinging people. So I just stick some small claws 714 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,360 To do the damage so yeah, it's cool. I see 715 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:07,480 Oh, just check out. It's like that with tarantulas to like I swear. Okay. I have a theory that 716 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:14,440 Tarantulas or spiders in general have like three superpowers. Okay, they get venom 717 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,280 So you can have like the super super toxic venom or very highly potent venom 718 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,040 urticating hairs and 719 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,480 speed and 720 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,840 So the funny thing about it is that it's a trade-off like the faster you are 721 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:35,800 You're probably not gonna have those urticating hairs like the salmopous or Minia or any old world species 722 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,640 They don't have urticating hairs, but they are all very fast 723 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:48,320 And then it's you know, it's a little game of threes like yeah, I don't know. It's just the theory. That's 724 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,560 My weird rambling. It's probably a good theory. I also think 725 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,880 Like the bigger the spider is 726 00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,320 Is using the more doe silo is from what I've seen 727 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,840 You know, you get 728 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,440 they're not as 729 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,320 They're not as terrifying 730 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,680 The bigger they are the tiny ones seems to pack the light you look black windows and yet 731 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:16,600 Yeah, stuff and yeah redbacks things that you know, they're the terrified ones 732 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:22,000 They are the chair. They are scary ones. I agree. I agree. Yeah 733 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,480 Okay, they don't do anything really there's something something to be said about that 734 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,040 I think you're you're pretty pretty right on although I will say my 735 00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:40,200 Brazilian giant whitening or my a canthus guria geniculata is not one that I would really consider docile 736 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:47,080 Because she is well, she's a good eight and a half or so inches and diagonal leg span, so she's big girl 737 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,040 and 738 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:55,960 But she's she's fast and wicked like if anything is in her in close any little thing touches a part of her enclosure 739 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,120 She's on it so fast 740 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:05,320 So I wouldn't call her docile, but I also wouldn't really call her like super defensive. She's not 741 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:12,800 You know what I mean? Like she doesn't kick hairs a whole lot. She rarely throws the red postures. She's just skittish 742 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,960 Yeah, I know I'm not as 743 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,760 I'm not concerned about like the seven pink 744 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:28,720 Yeah, sure. It's like the OBT the seven seven things like it's big go pee slow thing 745 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,120 Yeah, right 746 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:36,840 Doing anything. It's more interesting chucking air that isn't anything else. It doesn't want to bite you. Yeah essentially 747 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,000 It just looks like it wants to have a go at you all the time 748 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,880 I'm telling you they will stay 749 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,800 Look at my family. Yeah, you get it 750 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:54,560 I think that I know that I find really uncomfortable the OBT but I love OBT's because of that 751 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,200 I love their 752 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,560 attitudes like they they are just so 753 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:06,080 They have such a spicy attitude, but I kid you not they will stay in that threat pose for hours hours 754 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:12,600 Like there. Yeah, I mean I I have heard of people getting bit by OBT's 755 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,760 But I'm also thinking like once an OBT is in a threat pose 756 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,960 You kind of know like that is definitely your natural reaction to stay away from them 757 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,440 Because it is very intimidating 758 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,840 So 759 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,960 Yeah, exactly. So it's kind of surprising to me when people get 760 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,520 Bit by OBT's because I'm like, did you just keep provoking after the threat pose like what are you doing? 761 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:44,080 You know same in everything I mean same with scorpions as well if you keep provoking them 762 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,120 Like yeah, they're gonna make you squash them you put pressure on them. Yeah 763 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,520 They're gonna eventually defend themselves like 764 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:59,800 You know I I think I got bitten by the tiny jumping spider yesterday. I thought jumping spider 765 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:05,560 I think you were telling me I think I put my hand in so I jumped on it. I think I I 766 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:12,440 Squashed its leg a bit with my finger. Oh, no, I think that's what did no, it's fine. It's fine 767 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,880 Yeah, yeah, but I think it's natural reaction because it thought I was a threat is just to give me a quick knit 768 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,680 Well, that makes sense then rather than just jump on my hand 769 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,120 They thought what you're doing and he give me a quick knit and some of me off and it worked 770 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,720 Yeah, yeah for sure 771 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,560 I'm glad that the spider was okay. Oh 772 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:39,360 Oh, I'm glad you were okay, too. Yeah, it's fine. It's just a bit of shot as a arachnophobe. It's it's took 773 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:45,320 Yeah, white files get to the point where I can allow a jumping spider to touch me. I know that sounds mental 774 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,160 It's like oh, I didn't want to touch you in the first place, right? 775 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,800 Yeah 776 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,520 Mom's try to get used to this and now you know 777 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,560 It's it was so frustrating 778 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:04,120 But yeah, yeah, I think now back on it. It's okay 779 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,160 This guy and I really when I look at this I want to pick him up I 780 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,440 It's just got one end attitudes where I just feel like I want to pick the sculpting up 781 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:23,880 He definitely does seem pretty laid back, which is really cool, but I don't know I would say no 782 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:33,160 It's just I want to and every time I look at it I open it up. He don't live in here by the way that 783 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,960 Simply he lives in a much nicer place than this. Oh 784 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:45,160 This was simply white sand so you could see it's temporary. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. I like it 785 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:50,400 I'm glad you set that up. I took him a little hole and give him a hide and he's gone right in it says I didn't want to 786 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,400 stress him out too much 787 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,840 These lights are not opening. So I you know, it's about time. Yeah 788 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,480 But yeah, I really want to I really really want to pick him up, but I 789 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,240 Don't know 790 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,280 Don't do it. Yeah 791 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,640 You know, it's more dangerous for him 792 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,960 For it than than for you because they are still invertebrates. So yeah 793 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,160 That exoskeleton is only so hard 794 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:26,880 It's a good point because your first reaction if you put them on your palm your hand and if he stung you the your first 795 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,680 Reaction is to pull your way or jump or throw your hand in the air or whatever 796 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,480 And of course the scorpion is gonna go flying at the same time. Yep 797 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,840 So yeah, you're not gonna do the scoping any any favors if it stings you 798 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,160 Exactly. Yeah, you're better off. I want to but I'm not going to I 799 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,160 I 800 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,020 Was an emperor scorpion I would have had it out already 801 00:59:53,720 --> 01:00:02,440 Sure, because I know they're absolutely fine. They're so chill. Yeah, so docile. I love them. They're gentle giants 802 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:08,480 Mine used to sit on my desk with my computer while I was playing games. Very cool 803 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,480 It'll just sit 804 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,320 It's all 805 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,080 You know, I was only young 806 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,680 Yeah, but you know, it was it was 807 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,560 Not something I do now, but no, yeah back today 808 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,920 It it was fine, but they 809 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,720 Kept that love of scorpions going because our it was because it was docile 810 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,840 I think if I got a dangerous one where you you just had a tank and you couldn't go near it 811 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:47,080 I care for him so much, but sure when you've had a pet that's been a proper pet 812 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,560 And you can hold it. It's like yeah, I'm 813 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,240 Closer to scorpions now. Yeah, absolutely 814 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,680 This one was a present I 815 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,880 from somebody went to a show oh 816 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:08,320 Oh very very very surprised when turned up with it 817 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,280 How cool though, yeah, it's a really nice thought 818 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,440 Yeah 819 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,640 I 820 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:21,040 Was very chubb because I didn't have any scorpions. I wanted some bed and I have a sure and 821 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,600 Yeah, I turned up with this after going to the show and I was quite a really pleased about that so 822 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:32,760 I hope you get to watch this I hope Sharon gets to watch this as well because they can see that still alive 823 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,080 Heck yeah, that's amazing very cool 824 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,360 All right, well 825 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,720 We've gotten to the part of the podcast that is our shameless plug 826 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,640 So we're just about done 827 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,400 Simon what do you got going on this week anything new? I 828 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,160 Just had loads of things hatching and laying eggs and 829 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,160 awesome 830 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:03,480 Gaming up for Christmas time really in the show in February at Ants on a Rock show 831 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,240 that's what's going on and 832 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:13,800 Yeah, I've got access ghost mantis. So if anyone wants ghost mantis hit me up, you know, okay? 833 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,320 And that's me done I suppose 834 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,640 Alrighty 835 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,500 That's perfect. Definitely hit up the Mantis Garden 836 01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:27,180 And Simon for those ghosts mantis if you're in the UK I 837 01:02:28,260 --> 01:02:29,900 Let's see my shameless plug 838 01:02:29,900 --> 01:02:35,740 I actually went to a reptile expo a little bit ago and I made a video about it 839 01:02:35,820 --> 01:02:38,780 So I will be releasing that video tomorrow on 840 01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:41,420 Torantulia 841 01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:48,060 But really cool exciting news for inverte cast next week. We're gonna have a special guest 842 01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:51,920 Her name is Mel and she is from fatty pancake 843 01:02:52,700 --> 01:02:56,420 If you are not familiar with fatty pancake, she designs 844 01:02:57,100 --> 01:02:58,460 art and 845 01:02:58,460 --> 01:03:05,620 Really cool pictures of like reptiles and invertebrates and she puts them on mugs notebooks stickers 846 01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:11,260 Pretty sure she's got all kinds of really cool art prints and stuff. So check her out 847 01:03:11,260 --> 01:03:13,860 We're gonna be talking about that and talking to her next week 848 01:03:14,620 --> 01:03:16,620 So stay tuned 849 01:03:16,620 --> 01:03:18,100 otherwise 850 01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:22,420 Like and subscribe to invert a cast and we appreciate you watching 851 01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:26,380 And we'll see you next week. Yeah, get it shared 852 01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:32,980 Heck yeah, I will I will I'll make the link a little earlier. I think that's what happened this week. So 853 01:03:32,980 --> 01:03:42,660 No, I'm not bad at promoting things at all 854 01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:52,340 No, I just get a bit of a poster for money. That's easier. Yeah, that's been very very slow and quiet really 855 01:03:52,340 --> 01:03:57,340 We don't tell anybody about this. We don't we don't tell we're trying to keep it secret, you know 856 01:03:57,340 --> 01:04:00,380 Yeah, we are keep it secret. It's just our chat. Is it just that? 857 01:04:01,780 --> 01:04:03,780 It's a round for coffee 858 01:04:03,780 --> 01:04:12,620 Yeah, we tell you something more about it and yeah, I hope people will help us and talk about it 859 01:04:12,620 --> 01:04:18,580 And anybody who's listening to this, please tell other people that this is a thing and we do it every saturday 860 01:04:18,980 --> 01:04:22,820 And every Saturday. Yeah, it will always be a different 861 01:04:22,820 --> 01:04:32,060 subject. Yeah, different topics about the bugs only with the up tangent probably from me 862 01:04:34,060 --> 01:04:44,020 I get there I get there. Yeah, and yeah, so it would be nice if other people could do some sharing and promoting for us 863 01:04:44,020 --> 01:04:51,860 That'd be awesome. That'd be fantastic. Yeah. So thank you all for listening girl watching girl whatever you're doing 864 01:04:51,860 --> 01:04:57,140 All right. See you next week. You too Simon. Thank you 865 01:05:21,860 --> 01:05:23,860 You 866 01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:53,860 You 867 01:06:21,860 --> 01:06:23,860 You