1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,920 Hello and welcome to Invertecast. I am here with Simon from the Mantis Garden of, as 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:29,280 always, hello Simon. Hello. Hello. And I of course am Leah from Torrentia. And yeah, 3 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:38,280 today we're talking centipedes and millipedes. They are in a family known as Myriapoda, or 4 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Myriapods, which means many feet, which is ancient Greek wording, meaning many feet. 5 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:56,480 Very, very cool. So yeah, so I figured we would break down centipedes first. And basically 6 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:03,440 what that means is that they are a sec, they have a very long and segmented body. And each 7 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:09,800 segment of their body has two legs, or actually what, you know, two legs, because either side, 8 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:19,080 whereas millipedes, they have kind of a round, robust body that's long. And each body segment has 9 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:27,480 two legs on either side, so four legs per body segment. And so that's kind of like some of the 10 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:34,760 differences between centipedes and millipedes. Also centipedes are venomous. Oh sure, what's up? 11 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,000 I've just got to say, it's a really easy way to tell the difference between the 12 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,360 centipede and millipede. It's just look from the top, the legs of the centipede come out the 13 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:51,440 side of the segments, the legs of a millipede come from underneath. Absolutely, no that's great. 14 00:01:51,440 --> 00:02:00,680 So spotting it if you know you wasn't sure. Yeah, okay. And so obviously Simon has a really big, 15 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:10,000 beautiful centipede there on camera. What species is that? This is an atherostrectus 16 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:17,440 and gigus, which is an African, a giant African trained millipede. Very cool. She's not 17 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:26,640 an adult yet. She's gonna care, she's gonna go back and get bigger. She'll be amongst. 18 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:31,960 I love it. Even if you have a moustache, they live quite a long time, these large millipedes. 19 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:43,440 You can get a pet in 15 years out of one of these, which is a serious pet. I mean for me, 20 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:49,800 especially, who's used to axis, if you're lucky if you get 18 months out of them. So I think 21 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:58,920 it's a good thing. Well it takes me into retirement, put it that way. Heck yeah, I think that's amazing. 22 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:04,240 You get a lot of things when you buy stuff, don't you? You go and say, well I could get. Yeah, 23 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:10,600 right? Yeah. I'm a little bit tired, aren't I? Yeah. Well I love that about millipedes and 24 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:17,120 centipedes. They do have kind of a longer lifespan than some other atheropods and definitely mantises. 25 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:26,440 And they're also really fascinating. As we know, centipedes are predators, whereas millipedes are 26 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:37,400 part of cleanup crews. So they will eat dead leaf and foliage and dead carcasses of other animals, 27 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:43,480 things like that. And they also rejuvenate the soil. So once they eat all the dead stuff within 28 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:50,560 the soil, that soil becomes better for the environment, essentially, or for more growth 29 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:58,360 than seedlings and stuff. I'm chopping things like lichen as well, moths or grazer moths. 30 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:07,000 Absolutely. They prefer the rotting stuff if it's available. Like you'll be using it, you would. 31 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:13,960 I should say dead animals, dead insects, other insects and an atheropods. You know, 32 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:21,040 just about anything really. I mean, this one at the moment has got a bit of pitch that she's ignoring, 33 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,760 but she seems to be doing what I wanted her to, which is stay on the stick in focus so you could 34 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:32,720 see her. She's not running up and down it and trying to get off or anything. She's just staying 35 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:41,440 where a pudder. She's cooperating really well. It's unusual for an animal to do what you wanted 36 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:47,480 to do. But this one, I sort of knew she would. She is really good. She doesn't mind her life. 37 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:57,680 Do you handle her more than most people handle millipedes? Generally, you can put a box and just 38 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:04,840 go, oh, look, I've got a millipede or a tank. But this one actually gets handled. So she's 39 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:14,560 quite good. That's awesome. The best way to pick a millipede is offering your hands and let 40 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:21,560 quail on your hands. Well, any out of the properly, but especially. Otherwise, it can curl up. And as 41 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:30,280 you know, they can spray chemicals on you. And I do believe she's got a list of chemicals. I do. 42 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:37,000 Actually, well, I know that they have the hydrogen cyanide. That's the main chemical that I found 43 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:45,920 that they spray. So it can be really, really like irritating to your skin and very smelly. I know 44 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:52,600 that there are a couple of species that will spray hydrochloric, you know, the stomach acid. 45 00:05:52,600 --> 00:06:01,480 Hydrochloric acid, essentially. Which you definitely don't want on your skin because that can be 46 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:08,640 very irritating. It'll cause some injury, some burning. And, you know, if it's not treated 47 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:17,080 properly, it will definitely cause, you know, a bit of necrosis on your skin and whatnot. And so 48 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:25,360 that that can be very, very painful. But centipedes also can cause some pretty severe damage on a 49 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:33,360 human being and on their skin. So they can cause like myocardial ischemia, which is just a lower 50 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:44,160 percentage of oxygen flow to the heart. We usually see these kind of things in or this medical. I'm 51 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:50,640 sorry. So it's like this condition, you usually see it if someone has like clogged arteries. So 52 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:56,920 obviously, like if that can cause heart attacks and that kind of thing, which obviously is incredibly 53 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:05,520 severe, like life-threatening. But they also can cause hemorrhaging and kidney failure. So some 54 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:17,560 kidney issues as well. So that's pretty, pretty intense. So they call it rabodomyliosis. Yeah, 55 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:24,320 which basically means the damaged muscle tissues. When they release the proteins and the 56 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:30,560 electrolytes into the blood, it ends up damaging your heart and your kidneys. And so that's kind 57 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:37,640 of where that comes from. And yeah, I mean, it's that's kind of scary business, but they are 58 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:43,720 absolutely fascinating creatures, they're beautiful. And of course, they don't like to, you know, 59 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,680 spray those toxins or bite unless they feel they absolutely have to. So it's a defensive 60 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:56,480 mechanism. So yeah, like, do you have any experience with that with your millipedes at all? Like, 61 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:07,160 have you been sprayed at all? To be honest with you, no. No, okay. Not with these guys, not with 62 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:13,680 my pet ones, but with whale ones, well, when garbying, I mean, our millipedes are tiny, nothing 63 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:20,760 like your millipedes for a start of day. Just like everything over in the UK is tiny, like, 64 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:27,440 you know, centerpiece, you're looking about an inch for a bigger centipede, say millipede, 65 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:33,000 I mean, inch and a half maybe. And when you pick one of those up, if you garb in, you see when 66 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:41,640 you pick one up, and you'll see the, it will secrete like a yellow, well secretion, isn't it? 67 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:53,840 And that can be itchy and annoying, but nothing too bad. This is pretty mild. The glue is not 68 00:08:53,840 --> 00:09:06,680 clickbait, by the way. This one tends to defend itself by pooping on you. Okay. Take it out. If 69 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:13,720 you're surprised that she will just like release it. And it's just not a small animal. So it's 70 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:19,240 probably not a cute one. And I didn't want to sit here for an hour with my hands full of poop. 71 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:26,280 So that's why that's why I've got the glove. But the other reason I've got the glove is for the 72 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:32,120 sake of the millipede, because absolutely, it's off my hands. I don't want to irritate her, you see. 73 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,240 So that's, yeah, there's quite a few creatures. 74 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Different species in here are more different. Yeah, I've got more species in here. There's four 75 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:51,160 or five different species that live together. They're quite happy to live together. And they also 76 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:57,240 live with sizeable. So amazing. And they will live with things like giant land snails as well. 77 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,560 So amazing. That's so cool. Really, really cool pet for that reason, especially when we're 78 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:11,640 grabbing a, let's say a multi species setup millipede is definitely a must. Because some of them are 79 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,520 they're not all just big like this one. I've got one here now I can see it. 80 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,920 Unfortunately, it's eating a peach and it's stuffing its face. And I don't want to disturb, 81 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,760 but as you see, there are different types. I mean, I've got a, this is like the bumble bee, 82 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:34,360 which is quite a popular one, which is really small. Yeah, they're beautiful. 83 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:40,840 The colors on it, with them being like a bee, yellow and black, which is very pretty. And then 84 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:49,400 you've got another small one, which is, I'll be down with it, I can remember its scientific name. 85 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:56,680 Somebody will know it, the pink dragon. Oh, yeah. The pink dragon, which is the flax version of 86 00:10:56,680 --> 00:11:02,760 a millipede, but they're really, really outpriced, but they're very, very small. For me, anywhere, 87 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:08,760 I see anything. I've seen them. Yeah, they're really extraordinary. And they're such cool 88 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:16,840 little pets too. Like you can keep them with any like bioactive substrate or in terrariums and 89 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:24,120 stuff like that. And they pretty much self sustain. So long as you, you know, put in like a plant that, 90 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:30,360 you know, drops leaves every now and then or have an animal in that bioactive enclosure that poops, 91 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:38,200 they will clean all of that up. And it's, it's really fascinating. Centipedes are awesome. 92 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:45,480 There are actually 3000 species of centipedes throughout the entire world. I believe there are 93 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:57,480 57 species of centipede in the UK. And where did I have that? I think there are, there aren't a 94 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:05,800 whole lot in the States either. I think there's like less than 100 or so here. But they're divided 95 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:16,840 into four orders. So they basically are like soil centipedes, rock and garden centipedes, tropical 96 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,800 or giant centipedes, which are, that's the species, those are the species that you're going to see 97 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,400 more in the pet trade because they are just so large and a lot of them are really pretty. 98 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:33,880 And then you've got your house or feather species of centipedes. And those again are 99 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,120 are kind of the larger ones and those are the ones that you're going to see in the pet trade. 100 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:54,840 So the last two families, the scudigelmorpha and the scudigelmorpha are also the venomous types 101 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:03,320 where their venom can be medically significant to people. Obviously, like, you know, there's always 102 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:09,720 a risk of being bit by pretty much any animal that you keep. So, you know, I, it's funny because I 103 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:17,720 was just talking to Carrie, my partner about how I've taken more bites from snakes than I have cats. 104 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:24,840 But with snake bites, I have never had like an infection or any kind of issue like that. It's 105 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:32,200 really just kind of a surface, you know, little scrape, if you will. But with the cats, I had, 106 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,760 I took a bite from a cat that led to an infection that made my hands well, like, 107 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:44,120 so massively. And I ended up having to go to the hospital to get, you know, antibiotics and stuff 108 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:50,200 like that. So it's just kind of ironic that, you know, people are kind of afraid of snakes and 109 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:57,320 that kind of thing. But I, my experience has been very positive with snakes. And so, 110 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:03,000 I throw pods as well. Like, I've never been bitten by any of my tarantulas. So I really do 111 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,480 believe that it's just a matter of reading that body language and making sure that you're taking 112 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:16,120 those precautions. You probably are not going to be bit. So, centipedes, the front portion of their 113 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:27,160 body has the, the, or on their cranial portion, they have two pincher-like segments that are called 114 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:38,600 what did they call them? Sorry? Toxicocanth. Yes, exactly. You know, you know. Yeah, they're evil. 115 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:45,880 They can be, absolutely. But I thought that was really fascinating because they're similar to 116 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:53,960 spiders in that way, that their pinchers go kind of horizontally rather than, you know, like fangs, 117 00:14:53,960 --> 00:15:02,440 you know, they have pinchers. So modified legs, aren't they? Uh-huh. They're actually modified 118 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:10,200 legs. Yeah, they're modified legs. Absolutely. They're, it's fascinating. And so, yeah. And then I, 119 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:18,600 I also found a few species of centipedes that are of some interest. So we've got the alipus 120 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:25,720 granditaria. And it's, this is a type of spether tail centipede that is native to Africa. 121 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:33,560 So in the region of like Kenya, Tanzania, and Uganda, and these guys get about four to six 122 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:41,640 inches long, and they're black with orange legs. They will shake their tail that makes like a hissing 123 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:48,920 sound. So that's like their defense mechanism, but they do also have the pinchers and they can bite. 124 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:55,560 And for the most part, like centipede bites are pretty mild. Like they're not, they're not super 125 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:01,240 scary or medically significant. I mean, you're going to feel that irritation. And of course, 126 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,320 all of them have histamines. So it's going to be like an allergic reaction. So kind of like, 127 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:12,520 you know, mosquitoes, when the mosquito bites you, it's those histamines that create that itchy, 128 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:21,160 you know, irritated sensation. So same, same idea with centipedes. But the reason I thought this, 129 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:27,000 the feather tail from Africa was really interesting is that I think that this is the centipede that 130 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,920 most people think of when they think of pet centipedes, because it has that dark coloration 131 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:40,200 and those yellow legs. I've seen like quite a few streamers that like will show that exact 132 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:46,520 centipede. And they're very popular here in the States because they are large and they're colorful 133 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:52,600 and really cool and pretty. It's fun to watch them eat. They are carnivorous, which means they, 134 00:16:54,440 --> 00:17:02,280 they prey on insects. So they're insectivores, but a lot of centipedes will eat spiders as well. 135 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:09,640 And tarantulas. So little known fact or maybe fun little factoid for you. Maybe that's why you like 136 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:16,760 them because you don't like tarantulas. Yeah. I do. I do like that. That's that's that's an 137 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:24,040 only redeeming feature. That terrifying actual animal. But you know, I've happened in the past, 138 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:34,280 how big this bugger is, it's got a bigger. I do like sense of things. I have this in our pet trade 139 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:43,240 is you just said you get a lot from Africa. Yeah, we have a lot of the Southeast Asian sort of 140 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:49,640 sense of things available. Oh, yeah. A lot of Thailand and Malaysia and places like that, you 141 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,520 know, I can't name any of them to be honest with you. A lot of the Scolopendoras and the, you know, 142 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:03,960 is it the Dali or is that the other one? The other one is the, let me read it again. Salted 143 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:11,560 Geronmorpha. So, scooted, yeah, scooted Geronmorpha. So, yeah, you got this, 144 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:23,560 you know, the Scoto Geronmorpha, so Scoto Pelma, and then you've got your Scutro Pelma. 145 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:29,160 And so those are the two that are usually pretty popular for keepers to have. 146 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,640 We haven't got any questions yet. So that's interesting. Maybe we're doing good at answering 147 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:45,160 questions. Scutes, I'm going to have to look right up, like, because there's Matis with the same 148 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,800 genus name. Yeah, so I've got to look right up and find out what it means now. It must be 149 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:58,200 something they have in common. Yeah, absolutely. I would assume so because, 150 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:06,760 I mean, a lot of insects are cousins to other insects. Yeah. Like crickets, crickets are known 151 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:16,200 to be a cousin to, or like kind of adjacently related to Mantis. And so it's pretty interesting. 152 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:23,240 I mean, they have, they're somehow in the taxonomy that they're kind of, you know, 153 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:30,120 and there's like a long list of them. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like, yeah. 154 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,600 Yeah, it's the same way that like, orthoptera, crickets, crickets, grass, 155 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,560 obfuscatory, and orthoptera, and Mantis, Mantidea, and then you've got these guys, 156 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:46,600 which are Meridpoga, and then Ise, Poldori. There's so many, oh, taxonomy. We need to do 157 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,080 something called taxonomy because it's very, yeah, we do. I think taxonomy is 158 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:57,960 about 9% of people. And I think 10% of entomologists will just get confused with taxonomy because 159 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,640 it's such a confusing subject. It really is. And there's a lot to it. So, yeah, I agree. 160 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:10,600 It's all the time, which is, you know, another thing, they'll find something, right? They're 161 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:17,160 finding sense of peace now, and they'll repeat now, as you said earlier, they found one in the last 162 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:26,040 10 years, wasn't it? Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. The millipede from California, they actually come from 163 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:33,560 the Sierra Nevada region. So, it's a pretty big portion of California, or pretty big portion in 164 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:41,720 the southeast region of the United States. So, that encompasses like a portion of Arizona, Nevada, 165 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:48,360 California. But there's a millipede that was found there that was found to be 166 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:59,000 bioluminescent. And so, that's the ZistoCare Bistepede. So, they're cool. They glow in the dark, 167 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,600 and they believe that they glow in the dark or they're bioluminescent in an effort to 168 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:13,480 deal with the heat of the Sierra Nevada. So, that's fascinating. I mean, they're not completely sure 169 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:20,600 why it's bioluminescent, but so far, that's kind of a theory. And as far as I know, that's the only 170 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:26,840 species of millipede that is bioluminescent. So, that's, it's really fascinating that, uh, 171 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,080 that's, that's a thing. I think I'm, 172 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:39,960 I do what pasteates me the most about that. Yeah. It's in America. It's in a place that's populated. 173 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:48,520 And it's been, you know, it's not like, you know, it, they haven't found it in the Yucatan 174 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:54,280 Peninsula. They haven't found it in the depths of the Amazon. It's somewhere where people are all the 175 00:21:54,280 --> 00:22:02,040 time. All the time. Yeah. It's like, it's like saying, we've found a new creature. Yeah. Where 176 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:09,960 humans are commonplace. So, I find that most fascinating. I always, I always find that, 177 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,240 like when they find a new species of something in the UK, I mean, it's something a tiny eye of them, 178 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:20,760 with 70 million numbers on it. And yet it's the first time we've seen this. And it is, 179 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,560 that always amazes me when you find something new in a populated area. You're thinking, 180 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:33,880 how have you missed that? Right. Right. I agree. Like it's, it's, it's really funny and just kind 181 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:39,560 of weird. Like, uh, it's right under your foot because most millipedes live, you know, underneath 182 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:46,600 leaf litter and kind of underground. So they're definitely not quite as visible as other creatures. 183 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:53,400 But definitely something that there's a lot of building and construction and whatnot in these 184 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:59,800 areas. Like how did you not find this before? It's so weird. It's even worse. They closed in the 185 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:07,160 dark. Right. I love that. It closed in the dark. But how ironic. Like, yeah, how did you not find, 186 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:14,040 yeah. So really funny when we, we find species of things that like just seem like it was, 187 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:21,320 it should be super obvious and much older in our taxonomic information. Absolutely. 188 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:30,920 All right. So, sorry. Well, one of the things I, I, I, I remember reading was, uh, like the biggest 189 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:38,520 millipede. Okay. The biggest myriad populated in the family was a millipede. And I was always amazed 190 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:44,200 when I hear of it here. And it was actually Scotland. The, the, the fossil was in Scotland. 191 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,520 But it was actually huge. I think it's two meter long. Wouldn't really be so, maybe a bit more 192 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:57,880 than that. Which is just over six foot. So that's some serious creature. Wow. Yeah. Definitely. It 193 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:05,320 was here. So it just proves how the climate must have been really weird at the time towards it is now. 194 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:12,040 Uh, I, I, I've just always amazed when something here is found that is like, oh, that's the biggest 195 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:22,200 of like nowhere. Right. Right. Right. But yeah, it's also, I think their names are kind of funny too, 196 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:28,760 because, you know, when you hear senti, you're thinking 100, right? Or a century. Yeah. That's 197 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,920 kind of, that's just where that the name comes from. And we think, okay, it has a hundred lakes. 198 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:40,840 No, actually, they don't have quite a hundred legs for a centipede. And same with a millipede, 199 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:47,160 you think milli, so million or a thousand, um, millions of thousands, sorry. 200 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:56,360 But it's thousands, isn't it? It's a Latin, uh, or a thousand. A thousand. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, 201 00:24:56,360 --> 00:25:01,880 it's funny because they don't have a thousand legs. They only have, like the largest one has 202 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:10,520 maybe a hundred or so. Yeah. So it's just kind of ironic. Even their name is very, uh, even their 203 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:16,440 names are kind of, uh, misleading, if you will. I suppose. Look at your girl. Go. She's just, 204 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:22,280 she's just chilling. I love it. Yeah. She's, she's really, really, really good. Pat, I mean, she's, 205 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:32,440 she's awesome. It's like a shoot in July and we just give her a stick and she performed and she 206 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:38,440 was a great post-graphs of it. Just doing a thing and, you know, she seems very comfortable. 207 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,720 Yeah. She's getting up to the moon, should this peach now? And then she'll just wander off again. 208 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:50,200 But yeah, I think I have a brilliant pet. So yeah, but like wondering about them, 209 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:57,960 whether you should get one. My answer to that is yes. They're so cool. Just the tiny ones, 210 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:07,320 the life expectancy isn't as, uh, isn't as long. And it, I don't know, they seem a little more 211 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:15,560 sensitive than these big things. Sure. You can just chuck within a box of substrate and it'll 212 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:21,800 be quite happy. This one's got a little leaf litter in there. They're good. There's a lot of wood and 213 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,360 branches and stuff and there's moss in there and you know, so it's got, you know, we should have some 214 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:33,160 of the camera down here that you could, I could have left on in the box. But then I can't leave 215 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:39,160 the lid off because this one can actually climb out of the box. Yeah. You were saying that. So 216 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:46,280 yeah, let's talk about that. There's strength. There's a story behind getting this millipede. 217 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:55,640 This, I didn't buy this. This was a friend who bought this millipede. His wife bought it when 218 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:04,520 it was about this big. Oh, wow. And they put it in a big box with some substrate. It borrowed, 219 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:10,520 of course. And then they never saw it for months and months and months. And then one day, they thought 220 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:17,560 of it again, and then one day, she looked up and it was on the curtain rail, wondering across the 221 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:25,080 curtain rail. This starts to die. Well, a little bit smaller than this. And a rustling rung me up and 222 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,520 said, do you want a bloody millipede? Because it's terrifying. So sorry. That's amazing. 223 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,880 So we put with the rest of them and it needs and they all get along quite well. 224 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:43,960 So that's amazing. That is so cool. Well, since we're on the subject of millipedes, we can talk 225 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:52,520 that there are 7000 species of millipedes throughout the entire world. 1400 of those 226 00:27:52,520 --> 00:28:00,040 species occur right here in the US. And I believe I wrote down that there are 62 species that occur 227 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:09,000 in the UK. Some of them, obviously not all species of millipedes produce the hydrogen cyanide toxin 228 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:16,680 that they might spray. But they're pretty cool. Like, yeah, there are a couple of species that I 229 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:27,720 felt were noteworthy. One is called the chocolate millipede or office strafus ganensis. 230 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:34,200 Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, they're such good names. It's very difficult. Yeah, I'm so terrible 231 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:41,080 with the scientific names. But they're native. It's not a novel that I don't even see that. Oops, 232 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:49,160 she fell off. Oh, oh, that's a millipede, which is one of yours, I believe. 233 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:56,520 You have these in the wild. So. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Definitely. Nice to strike you know, 234 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,440 but this is an adult one. It's an adult. So I wish you'd stop doing that. Grab on. 235 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:09,560 This is not old. They never do what we want them to do. She keeps falling off. They're quite armored, 236 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:15,160 so it's not that bad with millipedes. I mean, I don't mean drop them out of your window, 237 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,760 but you're only dropping this. It's not such a big deal. They're a little heartier than like 238 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,840 spiders or another arthropod that like a drop would kill, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. 239 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,720 These are quite soft. I mean, they'll often climb up something like this and fall off. So 240 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,640 they'll be doing that in the wild. That's cool. It's not a big deal. I mean, that's one of yours. 241 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Yeah, the chocolate. Well, the chocolate millipedes, they get pretty large. They get about nine inches 242 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,440 in length. So they get they get pretty long for sure. That one doesn't actually that one's. 243 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:05,480 I think about four inches of the ivory. Okay. Yeah. But sort of like you say, yeah, 244 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:15,320 I got the massive. We also have desert millipedes or the Othroporis or Navas. 245 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:24,280 They're native to the Southwest United States and Northern Mexico, and they are also get to about 246 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:31,800 nine inches. And they're right. Yeah. Well, I thought that this was also a noteworthy 247 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:38,200 species of millipede because they are actually diurnal. So instead of nocturnal, they will spend 248 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:45,000 most of their time being active during the day, which is really uncommon for for a lot of like 249 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:51,640 arthropod species and anything like that. Well, it's definitely because of the eyes, isn't it? 250 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:59,480 I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. If you look at the diurnal ones, which is like the mantis 251 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:06,200 jumpy spider fish and the ones that they've got great. But yeah, absolutely. 252 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,720 This is a Thai rainbow, which you can't see, but trust me, beautiful. 253 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,720 Yeah. 254 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,120 It's just when I get new millipedes, it just goes in here with these and it just comes to you. 255 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,760 But these, as you notice, people kept falling off. This one's like blue. 256 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,440 How cool. This one's really hard to get off your hand. Oh, wow. 257 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,120 You've got to sort of encourage it to wander off. 258 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:45,400 I was hoping because I have another big millipede in here, but I can't find it. 259 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:53,560 We've got a couple of them, which is the spiked tail millipede, which is a big one, 260 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,680 like this. She's like, I take this chocolate rather than black. Okay. 261 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:06,200 Chocolate and yellow sort of stripes, which is a really, really pointy tail, which is a, you know, 262 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,040 really cool millipede to have. Absolutely. 263 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,720 Yeah. My eyes are terrible. I have to wait till we get bigger. 264 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,920 I love one batch, but they've been your ivory millipede. 265 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:25,960 So we'll have to see what else we get out of them. I believe it's the ivory millipede. 266 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,360 That one's native to Florida and kind of the Southeast region of the States, 267 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:38,600 with Carolinas and this kind of a swampy wetlands part of the Appalachias. 268 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:47,320 I find that they're always on the surface. They don't burrow us. I mean, 269 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,520 sometimes to do like in the molten shedding, of course, 270 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,840 burrow down and then pop back up again. But they do tend to, well, there's one here now, 271 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,520 there's one here on, as I was saying before, just on the stick, which is here. 272 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:09,000 And that's like that in the box. So as I was saying, just climb up the stick, 273 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,360 eat the lichen off the stick, fall off after time, but no big deal. 274 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,080 But yeah, they're always on the surface, the ivory millipedes. 275 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:30,920 They feast on that leaf litter and any of the dead, organic materials that are on the surface 276 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,400 of the ground and the forest and whatnot. So it makes total sense that that's where you would find them. 277 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,840 Definitely. 278 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,960 She's always out anyway because she's always just looking for something to eat. 279 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:50,120 That's so cool. I definitely have a more of an affinity for millipedes than I do centipedes. 280 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,600 Mainly because they're not quite, they're not venomous, they're not really scary. 281 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,800 And they're actually kind of cute. If you look really close at their faces, they're kind of cute. 282 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,960 They have like a real round, kind of a happy face looking thing. 283 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:13,160 And their legs are so short and tiny. It's really kind of surprising how fast they can move. 284 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:21,080 But I think they're a fascinating creature and just an awesome pet all around just for those factors. 285 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,360 Plus they come with, like you said, the bumblebee millipede and the ivory millipede. 286 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,240 They come in all kinds of beautiful colors, the rainbow, the Thai rainbow, millipede. 287 00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:35,720 So I mean, they're a popular pet probably for that reason. 288 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:44,440 And I just, I'm always fascinated with creatures like this just because they're awesome. 289 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,360 I think the other thing with the millipedes is 290 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,040 centipede is really for somebody who knows what they're doing. 291 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:04,440 Yeah. Where as your millipede owner, it's like the next step up from being an ice support keeper 292 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:12,200 to put some millipedes. And it's nice and easy to sort of deal with, there's no life feeding. 293 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:19,400 And there's, you know, so millipedes are, you know, quite a lot more popular than centipedes in that regard. 294 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,080 Well, they're definitely a really good, like passive kind of pet. Like you don't really have 295 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:32,440 to feed them consistently. You don't have to, you know, be checking on them daily or anything like 296 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:38,120 that. Like it's really just a matter of, you know, you probably check on them weekly and you're good, 297 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,720 you know, as long as they've got some leaf litter or, you know, organic matter that's dead or 298 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,680 you just don't need or whatever, they're going to take care of that. And you just throw that in 299 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:57,480 the enclosure. It's good. Call it good, you know, or centipedes. Oh, hopefully, if it's crap, I just 300 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:03,160 throw it in the, you know, either the ice supports or the ventures. Yeah, like I've got devour it, 301 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,760 you know, and that includes, yeah, I've got a little red, red wiggler worm that, you know, 302 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:16,920 becomes the end of the life to die. Yeah. And I'm not going to bury them. Okay. So I just chuck them 303 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:24,040 in there and say bye bye. Yeah, I like that with the isopods, with my isopods every now and then 304 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:30,360 I'll have a mold or, you know, maybe a spider that has come to the end of its life or something like 305 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:36,840 that. Isopods take care of it. But I'm actually really thinking I want to get some millipedes because 306 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,640 they are just, they're probably a little bit better at that than than the isopods. 307 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:49,160 That's something I think, I think notice, I thought, I said I've got a friend, I got two over there, 308 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:57,640 in California, that have invert businesses, similar to my own and 309 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:08,520 the prices of the millipedes, like millipedes here, you probably talk about eight pounds, 310 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:16,040 ten pounds maybe to buy millipedes. I noticed in America, it was looking at $100. 311 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:24,280 Oh, easy. Yeah. But this girl was $100. And I was like, absolutely amazed at the different prices. 312 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,840 Yeah, I am too. I'm always amazed that, you know, 313 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:36,040 certain species just seem to be a little cheaper than others. But in the UK, you guys got a mage. 314 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:42,840 You're not spending a whole lot of money. Whereas it's a hobby. If you haven't gone 315 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,960 along with me, it is a good hobby to get into. If you want a pet, but you can't go to the dog, 316 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:57,800 for instance. But you still want a pet. If you've got a 10 pound milk and a plastic box from the 317 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:07,560 single pocket, and you've got a pet. Yeah, absolutely. And as I always advocate for my pets, 318 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:14,760 with my tarantulas, with isopods, with mantises, they're great creatures because they keep me 319 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:20,520 grounded. They keep me in the moment. And so for me, it's about mental health, but also because 320 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:27,880 I love them. And they're, these are creatures that, you know, most people are afraid of and they don't 321 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:34,440 really see them as like cute cuddly pets, which they're right. They're not cute cuddly, but they 322 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:41,560 are definitely creatures that deserve respect and love as much as dogs and cats. Because they 323 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:50,840 are cute. I know, right? I can sit with this one. I can put this one on my desk. Or I can leave it on the stick. 324 00:38:50,840 --> 00:39:00,840 And I find that awesome. I think they're awesome. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, they're just not the 325 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:08,920 traditional idea of what cute and cuddly is. But I think my tarantulas are cute too. I mean, 326 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,040 the big calytherae and the tiny little eyes, they look like cute little old men. How is that not cute? 327 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,680 Yeah, you can keep those. Cute little old men never attracted me. You can keep them. 328 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:26,600 You know. I think that, as you know, I don't mind true spiders. Right. True spiders. 329 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:36,440 Yeah, yeah. Just and tarantulas. So it's not the fear of being bitten. It's just that I don't know 330 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:43,000 it's the way they walk and their hairiness. And it just, it literally makes me feel uncomfortable. 331 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,440 It's still uncomfortable. I don't hear it. They're always out. Tarantulas are always freaking out. 332 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:55,000 I don't know why. Yeah. I've seen something as a child that bothered me. Yeah. I've not 333 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,520 copied them because like I'm surrounded by, I'm literally surrounded by bugs. On every side, 334 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:08,680 there is some kind of, I know what of them can fight. And it's like no problem. But that little 335 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:16,840 calytherae over there where those tarantulas are, others may, you know, like you. But yeah, fine. 336 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:24,920 All good. These guys, the first question I get when people talk about millipedes is always about 337 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:33,320 the old, they've got cyanide. Thanks, Google. So if anybody does one thing in their life when 338 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:40,440 they're going to get a pet, you always say do the research. Yes. But when we say do the research, 339 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:46,120 that doesn't mean type it's name in Google. And learn what you can about it. Yeah. Yeah. 340 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:53,160 That's it. Don't just trust the first thing that comes up in Google. Right. Article written by 341 00:40:53,160 --> 00:41:00,360 somebody who's never had one or probably never even seen a life of one. So what you need to do 342 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:08,840 is find somebody who has one and willing to speak to you about them. That's how you learn. That's 343 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:15,000 your research. Forget research papers as well, Lera. Other than the world of rubbish anyway. 344 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,080 But yeah, they don't truly be art. Yeah. Yeah. Anything written by any village from a university, 345 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,000 I just don't trust it. Absolutely don't trust it. I need to see it myself. 346 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,800 It ties with what they're saying. I believe it. If it doesn't, which I have noticed quite a few 347 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:39,080 times, I've corrected quite a few of them, which is, yeah, it's quite blowing, right? 348 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:46,680 Yeah, it is for me. But if you're going to look for a new pet, please, please find someone who 349 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:53,240 has one, speak to them, chat with them, ask them all the questions. You'll find that 99.9% of the 350 00:41:53,240 --> 00:42:00,120 time, that person will be willing to talk to you about it. You're not bothering them and 351 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,840 annoying them with your silly questions. No, not at all. Yeah. Have the books, which means they 352 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:12,520 love talking about them. So if you ask, they will, they will love it. They will actually enjoy it. 353 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:19,240 I like it. And I get so many people asking me every single game or through a bit of social media 354 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:30,200 asking questions about Matys. Okay. I still try to take the time to answer every single one of them. 355 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:36,920 Absolutely. Of course. So I'll say go away and do Google or stop annoying me. Yeah. That's all 356 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,800 those people you want to help those people because that brings them into the hobby. And they like 357 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:49,000 find something out that we don't know. Right. Absolutely. Yeah, no, we don't. And at the end 358 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,000 of the day, we all know a little bit more. I mean, that's what it's all about, isn't it? 359 00:42:53,640 --> 00:43:00,600 Absolutely. And that's kind of the idea behind our podcast. In Verticast, we developed this idea 360 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:07,480 around the fact that when we talk to one another about creatures that we're keeping and we're 361 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:14,680 spreading information and it really helps the hobby kind of evolve and grow. And so the idea 362 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:22,440 behind this is just putting a bit of information out there and hopefully somebody sees it and 363 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,280 their fear of centipedes has reduced a little bit or their fear of millipedes has reduced or 364 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:35,960 something like that. And they feel more comfortable with the world that they live in because let's 365 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:42,520 face it, these arthropods are everywhere. They're a big part of the environment. They're a huge part 366 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:50,600 of the ecosystem. And so anywhere in the world that you go outside of Antarctica, you're going to 367 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,920 find arthropods. You're going to have bugs. There's going to be spiders. There's going to be millipedes 368 00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:04,200 and centipedes. They're all throughout the world. So I think it's really good for people to be able 369 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,640 to be more informed and knowledgeable of these creatures and it helps them feel more comfortable 370 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,560 in the world they live in. So yeah, that's kind of my take on it. 371 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,000 So also a great conversation starter. 372 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:25,880 Yeah, absolutely. People are always in trees. Nobody ever said to anyone, oh you keep tarantulas. 373 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,720 They want to know more. They want to know if it's ever bitten you. They want to know all the details 374 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:38,440 about it. So don't go on too much. They're making board. But you know, always something. 375 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:48,440 Winstrect and interesting is a great way to be. And having bugs really is a way to be that person 376 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,600 because not everybody does it. So it's a real good way to do it. 377 00:44:52,600 --> 00:45:02,600 For a definite uncommon breed of people. Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. 378 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:08,600 It's like a time delay. And you're like, oh, is it finished? Yeah. 379 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:14,600 It's so hard. Otherwise you get an awkward silence where you've both stopped talking. 380 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,600 Do you think, right, they're definitely finished now. So whatever. 381 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:24,600 I'll say, I did an interview this week for a newspaper. Oh, cool. 382 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:34,600 And he was asking me so many questions and I could hear in his voice how amazed he was. 383 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,600 And how interesting that I had in here and elsewhere in the house. 384 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,600 Yeah. 385 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,600 And I was blown away with the idea of having bugs as pets. 386 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,600 You know, right. 387 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:58,600 Even though he was doing the article, he was, you know, you think he would have researched a little bit and realised there's not only me doing it. 388 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,600 Yeah. 389 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:06,600 He was so blown away. It was the conversation that he said, oh, 10, 15 minutes. Just actually some questions. 390 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:12,600 Like over an hour, just chatting because he had that many extra questions. 391 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,600 You know, what was involved. 392 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:28,600 That's how it is for everybody. So it can help you with, you know, if you're one of the people who are uncomfortable around other people, let's say. 393 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,600 Absolutely. 394 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,600 Or you're anti-social. 395 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:40,600 If you start getting into books and things like this, you'll find you'll get knowledgeable about them. 396 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:46,600 And also find yourself in crowds telling a crowd of people all about your books. 397 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,600 Yeah. 398 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,600 So it really helps with, you know, your mental health. I don't have any issues with my mental health. 399 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,600 I've got to say that. 400 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,600 But I have seen other people with issues. 401 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:04,600 When they start keeping books, it's helped them so much. 402 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:16,600 There's something about it. You know, something about keeping Arthur Pods that really helps people be able to, like you said, be social with other people. 403 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:26,600 I am somewhat introverted. I mean, I'm really good about, you know, being like charismatic and personable when I meet people. 404 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:36,600 But at the end of the day, it definitely is something that I'm kind of like, okay, too much social activity, you know. 405 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:49,600 But when I can talk to other people about, you know, the tarantulas that I keep and the different species and when I go on and on about them, I mean, that really helps me to be able to say, hey, check this out. 406 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,600 Oh, I'm going to teach you this. Or I'm, you know, do you have questions? I'm happy to answer them. 407 00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:02,600 So yeah, definitely there's a huge social, what is it, like a bridge, you know, to that communication. 408 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:11,600 For sure. And I, you know, millipedes and centipedes, this is something that I have never kept these creatures before. 409 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,600 And I still have, I don't have any at the moment. 410 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:23,600 But I will say that I really enjoyed learning what I did about them for this week's episode because, you know, now I'm kind of fascinated. 411 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,600 I'm like, okay, now I got to check out the ivory millipedes, you know what I want one. Yeah. 412 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:36,600 It's the giant African, you know, the chocolate millipede from Africa. They're, they're fascinating creatures. They're really cool. 413 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,600 It's a whole different side of keeping Arthur pods. 414 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,600 You know, I would love to share that with my friends and people who want to know. 415 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,600 So I think it's awesome. 416 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:55,600 It's just brilliant. I mean, we should, we should do something on mental health. 417 00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:01,600 Yeah. Pick a read by, I know they have mental awareness, weeks and things like that. 418 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,600 I'm not well on it because I say I don't have those, any of those issues. 419 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,600 So I don't get to know these things unless I see someone puts my own fence book. 420 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,600 Yeah. 421 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,600 Yeah. 422 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,600 Rare, but we should do something like that. 423 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:24,600 We do actually speaking of because next week is pretty exciting for invertecast. 424 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,600 We were, we are going to have a special guest. 425 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:32,600 We're going to have Britain from the spider courage experience. 426 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:41,600 And so speaking of mental health, she actually helps people get through phobias of spiders, essentially. 427 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,600 I'm sure she probably does it for other Arthur pods. 428 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:51,600 If, you know, if that arise, I'm sure she could, but we're going to be talking with her about that. 429 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:59,600 And so, yeah, I'm really looking forward to interviewing her and hopefully it's going to be a really great episode. 430 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,600 And so I felt like that was a really great segue of the mental health. 431 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:17,600 So maybe the episode after that we can discuss why so many people with mental health concerns are drawn to Arthur pods and keeping them and what it does for them. 432 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,600 So great idea, Simon. Absolutely. 433 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,600 You're so smart. 434 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,600 You're so smart. 435 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,600 Absolutely. 436 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,600 Hopefully. 437 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:38,600 I'm going to struggle with the spiders by each week we do this, hopefully I've got something back and so I can get around the. 438 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,600 Yeah, I love it. 439 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,600 So some of the creatures probably not the idea, but I'd like to do that. 440 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:53,600 So if you could, depending on what what we do in a lot, even try and set up a similar camera. 441 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:59,600 This is who's doing ice to pop, she's just looking in ice to pop in and something so you got something on the side. 442 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,600 And I was just hot, but yeah, I've tried. 443 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,600 I've got so many things in here. 444 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,600 I think we've got 17 different kinds of animals. 445 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,600 Yeah. 446 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,600 You know, from scorpions to spiders. 447 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,600 Yeah. 448 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,600 So it'd be nice to, you know, we've got plenty to go on with. 449 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,600 I reckon. 450 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,600 Oh, absolutely. 451 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,600 Yeah. 452 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,600 Thank you in the comments. 453 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,600 Yeah, plug it down below. 454 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:35,600 We're happy to answer questions and dive deep into the subject. 455 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,600 Like, subscribe and share. 456 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,600 Absolutely. 457 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,600 Please do. 458 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,600 Yes. 459 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,600 You know, we're doing this for you guys. 460 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,600 We're doing it for you. 461 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:51,600 So, okay, well, that leads me into, you know, kind of our goodbye session. 462 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,600 This is what we do. 463 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,600 I'll go ahead and go first with my shame with plugs. 464 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,600 I am still editing a video that I made this week. 465 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,600 I know I said that I was going to be doing like a rehousing of a bunch of spiders and I'm still doing that. 466 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,600 But change of plans this week. 467 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:14,600 I went to the butterfly pavilion and they, because it's October and Halloween is coming up. 468 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:26,600 They actually did a spooky spectacular spider thing and they had a whole bunch of tarantulas on display and whatnot. 469 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:37,600 And then also in the actual butterfly area, they cornered, they kind of sectioned off a small portion of their indoor jungle. 470 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:45,600 They allowed for, I believe, two different, three different species of orb weaving spiders. 471 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,600 They just kind of released them and let them do their thing. 472 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,600 And so I have a bunch of cool footage. 473 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,600 I just need to do a couple of things to release that video, but I'm going to be releasing it hopefully tonight. 474 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,600 If not tonight, it will be released tomorrow. 475 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:05,600 I just want to make sure it's nice and pretty and everybody likes it. 476 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,600 I'm also going to a reptile expo tomorrow and I'm going to be meeting a fam there. 477 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:23,600 So if you are in the Denver area and you want to meet me, I will be at the repticon or no, the reptile nation expo this weekend. 478 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:31,600 And then next weekend, as I plugged before, we are going to be interviewing Britain from the spider courage experience. 479 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,600 So I'm really looking forward to that. 480 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,600 So yeah, be looking out for the promotion stuff. 481 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,600 We'll have that all available. 482 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,600 And that's all I've got. 483 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,600 How about you, Simon? 484 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,600 What's up? 485 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,600 What's new? 486 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,600 I haven't made a video for quite a while. 487 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,600 I've been suffering with my neck. 488 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,600 I have neck problems. 489 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,600 So I've not been able to make any videos. 490 00:53:54,600 --> 00:54:00,600 I hope I might get around to making one this week with a bit of luck. 491 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,600 My channel, of course, is Mantis Garden. 492 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,600 So if you want to go work, go work. 493 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,600 It's up to you. 494 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,600 Of course. 495 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,600 Like and subscribe to this channel. 496 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,600 Yeah. 497 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,600 Like some plug. 498 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,600 That is it. 499 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,600 That is my thing. 500 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,600 Oh, I got this from it. 501 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,600 Yeah, that's the other one. 502 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,600 Wonderful. 503 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,600 I love it. 504 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,600 As always, I love supporting Mantis Garden. 505 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,600 I love your channel, Simon, just so you know. 506 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,600 It's a lot of fun. 507 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,600 I like your most recent, you had a short that you made of the Mantis that was 508 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,600 kind of giving you a little chewing there on your finger. 509 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,600 I thought that was really interesting. 510 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:40,600 Yeah. 511 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,600 Yeah. 512 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,600 Yeah. 513 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,600 But yeah. 514 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,600 Check it out. 515 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:53,600 If I can't make a full video because of this, I was trying to just get a short 516 00:54:53,600 --> 00:55:01,600 and now I'm again, just to let people know that I am like doing stuff. 517 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,600 You're still alive. 518 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,600 Yeah. 519 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,600 It's not like a debt channel or anything. 520 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,600 It's so just like to talk with you. 521 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,600 I can't remember. 522 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,600 It's something might turn up this week. 523 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,600 I might do an unboxing. 524 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,600 Okay. 525 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,600 Because they take 10 minutes to make. 526 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,600 I've got to do it anyway. 527 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,600 So it's not like I have to prepare anything. 528 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,600 I'm not sure. 529 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,600 I might have a box in this week. 530 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,600 I don't know. 531 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,600 I think I'm expecting some Mantis. 532 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:32,600 Not sure. 533 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,600 So just be a quick Mantis. 534 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,600 I do. 535 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,600 To do a video for the end of Halloween. 536 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,600 Because last year. 537 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,600 In October. 538 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,600 I made a terrarium. 539 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,600 A Halloween terrarium. 540 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,600 How fun. 541 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,600 It's a small thing. 542 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,600 It's on the kitchen window. 543 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,600 For a year. 544 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:00,600 Amazing. 545 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,600 I've got a look at it. 546 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,600 I want to see what it looks like now. 547 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,600 I'll do an update on it. 548 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,600 Do an update. 549 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,600 Yeah. 550 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,600 One year update. 551 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,600 For the Halloween thing. 552 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,600 That sounds wonderful. 553 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,600 Yeah. 554 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,600 I think that would be fantastic. 555 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,600 I'm looking forward to that. 556 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,600 I think so. 557 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,600 Thank you everyone for watching. 558 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,600 Thanks for tuning in. 559 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,600 I hope to see you next week. 560 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,600 Goodbye. 561 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,600 For invertecast. 562 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,600 We'll see you later. 563 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:49,600 See you later.