1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,560 ěš” 2 00:00:17,260 --> 00:00:20,500 and welcome to invertec, I- 3 00:00:18,660 --> 00:00:26,100 am Daren refer to white 4 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:31,100 who has joined Inverticast recently because he is just that cool. 5 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:36,100 And he likes spending time with us, I don't know. 6 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:41,100 So today we are going to be talking about feeders. 7 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:47,100 And so what that basically means is little bugs and things that I feed to my tarantulas 8 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:53,100 and what Simon would feed to his mantises. 9 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:58,100 Oh, good evening. Hello, Shady. Oh, it's always so nice to see Shady. 10 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:04,100 Okay, so sorry. So, Simon, my first question for you. 11 00:01:04,100 --> 00:01:08,100 How did you get your feeders in the beginning? 12 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:12,100 Because I know that you keep colonies. 13 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:17,100 So, and that's probably a pretty big difference for me is that I will go to a shop 14 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:20,100 and I'll pick up whatever feeders I need. 15 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:23,100 Sometimes I get a little extra, sometimes not. 16 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:26,100 And then I come home and feed my tarantulas. 17 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:29,100 So how did you get yours? 18 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:35,100 At the start, I was buying the Muggleine. 19 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:40,100 When I started going a bit bigger with them, but before that, 20 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:47,100 it was all different cattle and fish because you could only get a limited choice in feeders. 21 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:55,100 So, same as you go to the pet shop and buy whatever they had that was the size for what you like to feed. 22 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:58,100 That's it. 23 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:01,100 Okay. 24 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:06,100 Okay, cool. So how, like, what made you, obviously you have a lot of mantises. 25 00:02:06,100 --> 00:02:12,100 So it's probably a really good thing for you to have colonies of superworms because I know that 26 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:20,100 you might not live like in that big of a city. It's a little more convenient for you guys to just have those colonies. 27 00:02:20,100 --> 00:02:23,100 Can you speak on that a little bit? 28 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:28,100 I can, I can. I was shutting up then actually. 29 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:31,100 I'm trying to... 30 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:38,100 You sort of, you sort of, it was expecting you to carry on. So sorry if you were. 31 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:43,100 All good. All good. 32 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:51,100 Yeah, I think it's not the availability of the fact that I can just go out and get them. 33 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:57,100 Believe it or not, I have a pet shop 10 minutes away, 10 minutes walk away. 34 00:02:57,100 --> 00:03:05,100 I have to walk through the woods, which means great deal to me because it means I can get some food every single log and see what's under it 35 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:09,100 and pick up the moss, et cetera, and bring them home as well. 36 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:14,100 So I've got easy access to feeders if I run out just down the road. 37 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:21,100 And I live four miles away from one of England's biggest cities, which is Manchester. 38 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:30,100 So again, if I run out, it's four miles down the road, which is six kilometers. 39 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:35,100 I don't know, something like that. I speak of the world. 40 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:42,100 No, no worries. Six kilometers. That's about three and a half miles-ish. 41 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:48,100 Well, four miles. So I think it's six kilometers. I don't know. 42 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:52,100 Anyway, that's all I was doing. 43 00:03:52,100 --> 00:04:10,100 It's the sheer volume required. If I was to go and buy them, I really, really would be spending so much money that it would make any sense to me. 44 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:15,100 It's much easier just to have some. I use this for anything. 45 00:04:15,100 --> 00:04:19,100 I use boxes like this. 46 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:22,100 I've got crickets in this one. I've got micro crickets under it. 47 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:26,100 And then I've got red runners and then dubia rogue cheers. 48 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:40,100 And then several different species of springtails, spring-wise, aphids, wax worms, meal worms, and probably other things that have forgotten. 49 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:58,100 Wax moths. So yeah, that's because I've got an array of insects from tiny things like mantis nymphs, but just hatched all the way to adults that will eat an adult dubia roach. 50 00:04:58,100 --> 00:04:59,100 Absolutely. 51 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:09,100 I have to have a hole in between as well. And the ones that make a difference is that we've got meal worms for the tarantulas, for instance, out of the meal worms. 52 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:23,100 And the assassin books like crickets. So there's a lot of different sort of things we've got to feed in different stages, aged stages. 53 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:29,100 So when we discussed, actually, we discussed feeders before. 54 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:46,100 And you actually mentioned that in the UK, or where you are, you can actually just go out into your garden or your yard and find like a couple isopods, or maybe you find a darkling beetle or something like that. 55 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:51,100 And then you can basically just capture the bugs from outside and harvest them that way. 56 00:05:51,100 --> 00:06:08,100 Here in the States, it's really not a great idea to do that, mainly because of all the insecticides and pesticides that a lot of gardeners and other people in their homesteads and their homes will use for their yards. 57 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:15,100 But you also mentioned that it's not legal for insecticides in the UK. Do you know why that is? 58 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:23,100 It is legal for some pesticides, but they have to be rigorously vetted. 59 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:31,100 And most of the pesticides like farmers have a different insecticide situation to the people in the house. 60 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:40,100 If you've got a supermarket and you buy an insecticide or something like that, it's not going to be the same sort of potency as like what a farmer would get. 61 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:52,100 And most of them are biodegradable and insta-kills. So they either kill insects where it is when it eats it or when it comes in contact with it. 62 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:59,100 The ones in your garden, if you live near a city, the chances are the ones in your garden are going to be 100% okidori fine. 63 00:06:59,100 --> 00:07:04,100 And if they're not, you can just keep them for one day and that should be enough to quarantine them. 64 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:15,100 The main problem would be parasites. I've been doing it for a long time by just grabbing stuff out the garden and getting a single problem. 65 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:29,100 I don't wash moss or sticks or branches or bark. I don't clean any of it. I just bring an enclosure, dump it on the go. 66 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:38,100 And you've said that this is really common practice. So this is like really normal for you to be able to just go outside. 67 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:47,100 There's not really a whole lot of pesticide use where you're from and it's a lot easier because I live in a big city. 68 00:07:47,100 --> 00:08:04,100 So for me, if I were to step outside into my yard to collect specimen or dirt or whatever for an enclosure, the grass isn't even like a native species of grass here. 69 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:10,100 So there comes a lot of other insects and stuff that actually don't belong here in Colorado. 70 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:18,100 Like the Japanese tree beetle at the moment is wreaking havoc on some of the pine in the mountains and stuff. 71 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:33,100 So I definitely would not go out and grab some of that material. Pesticides and weeds and strange things that I just don't know what's going on in this yard. 72 00:08:33,100 --> 00:08:43,100 We're just very like, especially in a city, we're really kind of squished together. But there are also other benefits. 73 00:08:43,100 --> 00:08:52,100 Like there are mealworms and superworms and crickets and stuff pretty much ready for me within about two miles or three miles from where I live. 74 00:08:52,100 --> 00:08:58,100 So I just hop on a scooter and run over and grab as many crickets as I need. 75 00:08:58,100 --> 00:09:09,100 So I mean, it is kind of convenient. But for you, that's, I mean, it makes sense, you know, like our worlds are so different, but also kind of the same. It's really cool. 76 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:20,100 Well, do you have a favorite feeder insect to like feed your mantises or? 77 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:28,100 A favorite as in what's best or favorite as in what's easiest for me to feed. 78 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:30,100 Well, how about both? 79 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:32,100 Okay. 80 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:37,100 Cuproaches, red runners, probably. 81 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:39,100 Okay, cool. 82 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:48,100 Probably the best protein wise and fat wise for mantis. 83 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:52,100 The only problem I've got with them is catching them, which is a pain. 84 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:58,100 I generally like the fair sized ones, I'll give them the roaches. 85 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:05,100 Before that, they'll get an array of all sorts of different things from agents to fruit flies to. 86 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:07,100 And then you've got blue bottles for the bottles. 87 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:09,100 Oh, yeah. 88 00:10:09,100 --> 00:10:20,100 I think my favorite is also the red runners. I like the tarantulas responses to them because they're just, it's pretty epic to watch them grab the roaches. 89 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:25,100 Because they are very fast little roaches, like they're incredibly fast. 90 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:28,100 And yeah, so I agree, catching them is a pain. 91 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:34,100 So that is also one of my favorite feeders to feed. 92 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:44,100 We're just sitting here with our, you know, we probably look really strange with a couple of tongs and... 93 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:50,100 You've got this much stuff to feed that can be awful, absolutely awful. 94 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:52,100 Oh, yeah. 95 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:55,100 And you're having a bad day and you can't catch them. 96 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:58,100 Or there's a certain size you want in the box. 97 00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:00,100 Yeah. 98 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:05,100 And then that, because most people, especially yours with the tarantula hobby, 99 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:13,100 Jay Schemily, the male roaches that you're giving out, the tarantulas, isn't it? 100 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:19,100 Yeah, I mean, yeah, they are very quick and the tarantulas actually can catch them a lot faster than I can. 101 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:21,100 It's pretty impressive. 102 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:23,100 Yeah. 103 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:30,100 I mean, it's the male roaches that you feed to them, isn't it? 104 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:33,100 You know, when you open the box, you've got to get a male roach for you. 105 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:34,100 You know, you don't want to... 106 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:35,100 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 107 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:37,100 You don't need a female... 108 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:39,100 You want the females to reproduce. 109 00:11:39,100 --> 00:11:42,100 You want them to, you know, create more... 110 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:46,100 I'm watching it because mine is the size. 111 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:49,100 So it's not about the male or the female. 112 00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:50,100 It's like, I want them this size. 113 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:52,100 So I could have grabbed that size. 114 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:53,100 Yeah. 115 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:54,100 That's what I'm using. 116 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:56,100 If I can catch them, that's what I'm using. 117 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:59,100 So it can't be a bit... 118 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:01,100 A bit hard work to keep the... 119 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:07,100 At the moment, I don't like doing it, but this week I'm going to be feeding them crickets. 120 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:11,100 And crickets are always the best idea to feed to mantis. 121 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:20,100 Because they tend to eat any dead crickets and then they pass it on and it becomes a problem. 122 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:26,100 I've not had a problem with it yet, but it isn't a problem, so I'm told. 123 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:27,100 Sure. 124 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:31,100 I've yet to see that happen. 125 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:40,100 Okay, so speaking of that, like speaking of the best food for your inverts, I do have a question for that. 126 00:12:40,100 --> 00:12:51,100 You said that red runners actually provide the most sustenance or the most protein-based sustenance, essentially. 127 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:59,100 So are there other nutritional benefits to other feeder insects? 128 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:04,100 So like, I know that crickets are usually pretty good protein. 129 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:07,100 Rancholas do love them. 130 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:15,100 But obviously, I honestly would prefer red runner roaches over crickets. 131 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:22,100 So like, is there other benefits to say superworms or mealworms or hornworms? 132 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:32,100 If Ben's what you're feeding, I don't use hornworms, etc. for any of these guys. 133 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:41,100 Because there's too much fat in them and they can't process it and it's no good for them at all in getting digestion. 134 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:47,100 Digestion issues, so mantis are not very good with fat at all. 135 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:55,100 Fatty substances, they don't mind sweet substances like they have been seen in the wild, taking eggs from flowers. 136 00:13:55,100 --> 00:14:02,100 But only small amounts, you can't remember that small amount, you're going to give mantis or pretty much any of them. 137 00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:13,100 Because most of them will take things like honey, sugar water, nectar, meat, they'll take it, but you shouldn't offer it in massive amounts. 138 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:15,100 It should only be a little bit. 139 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:18,100 They don't really need it to be honest. 140 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:20,100 They just need the protein. 141 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:22,100 But people, we do that. 142 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:27,100 We'll come on to that in a minute when you go on the non-life feeders. 143 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:40,100 I'll talk about what I was just going to say then, about people feeding things because they want to and not for the benefit of their actual pair. 144 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:42,100 Does that make sense? 145 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:43,100 Absolutely. 146 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:54,100 Is there a way that we can tell if our invertebrate, whether it be assassin bugs or ranchlis or jumping spiders, 147 00:14:54,100 --> 00:15:00,100 is there a way to be able to tell if they actually like what they're eating or if they prefer something? 148 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:02,100 How do you go about doing that? 149 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:09,100 Yeah, I'm going to say, yeah, I'm only going to speak for mantis here. 150 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:18,100 But I'm going to say, they will definitely know the difference between something that's been gut-loaded. 151 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:23,100 If you pass on that, I can't remember if I saw what you sent. 152 00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:27,100 I can't remember if you mentioned gut-loading, so I don't know if I said anything. 153 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:28,100 Oh, I'm aware of it. 154 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:29,100 Yeah, yeah. 155 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:30,100 It's okay. 156 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:33,100 I don't know if you'd like to bring up in a bit. 157 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,100 Yeah, absolutely. 158 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:36,100 We can talk about gut-loading. 159 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:45,100 Well, gut-loading is obviously the way you get a feeder insect and you purge it by giving it a certain thing. 160 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:49,100 Like you can give it more crickets or apples or lettuce. 161 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:58,100 You're actually doing the mantis a favor or whatever it is a favor by giving them this item rather than eating. 162 00:15:58,100 --> 00:16:12,100 If you go into a shop and buy a box of crickets that have been sat in that box for days on end, eating nothing but other dead crickets and skins and sawdust that's in that box, 163 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:19,100 the crickets full of, pretty much, it's dropping its nutritional value already. 164 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:24,100 If you feed them straight out of the box, it's just really low nutritional value. 165 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:25,100 Okay. 166 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:37,100 So if you're feeding the insect, whether it be a cricket or whether it be a mealworm, cockroach, I forgot what they were called. 167 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:38,100 Sorry. 168 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:49,100 If you start, if you actually give them something, like I will give them an apple, I'll slice an apple, chuck it in, eat an apple, 169 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:58,100 eat the apple slices overnight, take the rest out and I'll give them something else that's going to pick up their nutritional value when they're eating. 170 00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:08,100 But I have noticed that if I feed something on fruit, a mantis is more likely to eat that particular item. 171 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:12,100 It will pick one item over and over if one has been fed on fruit. 172 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:13,100 Okay. 173 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:15,100 So that makes a lot of sense. 174 00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:16,100 Lettuce, for instance. 175 00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:18,100 Sure. 176 00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:20,100 That's fascinating. 177 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:21,100 Okay. 178 00:17:21,100 --> 00:17:33,100 So you do, like you have noticed that the fruit fed crickets and whatnot are more appealing to your mantis. 179 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:34,100 Yeah. 180 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:36,100 Yeah, that's cool. 181 00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:37,100 Well, that's cool. 182 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:38,100 I really like that. 183 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:44,100 So you mentioned, no, I mean, because I actually really agree with that. 184 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:48,100 I have noticed that my tarantulas are the same way. 185 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:59,100 Like if I bring home super worms rather than crickets or if I bring home like mealworms, mealworms are not really a big favorite of my tarantulas. 186 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:00,100 They really don't like them. 187 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:04,100 Like some of the old world guys do, they'll scoop them right up. 188 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:14,100 But mealworms are, I use them mostly for like my little jumping spiders and true spiders and stuff because they'll just go for it. 189 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:18,100 But I have noticed that roaches are definitely their favorite thing. 190 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:22,100 Like they pounce on those a lot quicker than they do the crickets. 191 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:33,100 Like they, you know, it's almost like they enjoy just, you know, so, you know, I definitely think our creatures do give us indication. 192 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:41,100 That, you know, they have a favorite food that they like to eat over another. 193 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:47,100 So, so you also mentioned in talking about nutrition. 194 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:54,100 There are proper ways of feeding crickets and roaches and and mealworms and such. 195 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:59,100 So what is like the best way to keep a super worm colony per se? 196 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:03,100 Are we talking Mario worms? 197 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:04,100 I think so. 198 00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:07,100 There's a very large darkling beetle that. 199 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:08,100 Yeah. 200 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:11,100 I think we had them around last time we did the beetle one. 201 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:13,100 I had a darkling beetle in my hand from. 202 00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:14,100 You did. 203 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:15,100 Right. 204 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:16,100 Yeah. 205 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:18,100 But I've got loads of eggs here from them. 206 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:22,100 So I'm hoping that these guys will have a new colony soon. 207 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:23,100 So that'd be great. 208 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:24,100 And I'm going to feed them. 209 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:25,100 Oh, that's awesome. 210 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:30,100 These, these will generally eat pretty much anything, but. 211 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:31,100 Okay. 212 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:39,100 The groutons in the wild could probably eat more and rotting leaves and even substrate. 213 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:42,100 They generally just eat that sort of stuff off. 214 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:46,100 If you're going to add them, you can, you can feed them through. 215 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:51,100 So I'd say melon seems to be something that like quite a lot. 216 00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:52,100 I noticed. 217 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:53,100 Okay. 218 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:57,100 So things like melon is fruit flies. 219 00:19:57,100 --> 00:19:59,100 Oh yeah. 220 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:02,100 Fruit flies and fungus gnats. 221 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:09,100 If you're, you know, if it's a warm day like today is bloody warm in here. 222 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:15,100 And you put that in an enclosure and you have with your meal worms or whatever, your super worms 223 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:17,100 or anything else really. 224 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:22,100 Like within a couple of hours, the thing is full of fruit flies or fungus gnats. 225 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:24,100 And you know, they just come out of nowhere. 226 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,100 So, yeah, absolutely. 227 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:28,100 That's the only problem. 228 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:33,100 I have fed them all lettuce. 229 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:34,100 Okay. 230 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:36,100 And cucumber. 231 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:40,100 Cucumber's got absolutely zero nutritional value for any animal. 232 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:46,100 And it was just like it, but it has got value because it's got hydration value. 233 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:47,100 Hydration. 234 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:48,100 Yeah. 235 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,100 I was going to guess that. 236 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:50,100 Yeah. 237 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:52,100 That's the value. 238 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:54,100 There's no real nutritional value in it. 239 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:57,100 You know, it's nothing massive, no massive benefits. 240 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:59,100 Same with lettuce. 241 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:05,100 Lettuce has like trace calcium and stuff like that in it and some other things, but it's 242 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:08,100 not exactly a powerhouse food. 243 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,100 If you know what I mean. 244 00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:14,100 Well, that's, you know, generally across the board, isn't it? 245 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:15,100 Vegetables. 246 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:19,100 They're not, they're not going to provide nutrients. 247 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:23,100 Nutrition as a mix, et cetera. 248 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:30,100 So, so feeding them fruits is actually a much better option than vegetables. 249 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,100 I find that. 250 00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:34,100 Yeah, I find the fruit is a much better option. 251 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:35,100 Okay. 252 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:37,100 Don't tend to like so much. 253 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:38,100 It's too much. 254 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:40,100 So I, that might just be me. 255 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:43,100 It might just be our breed over here. 256 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:47,100 No, that makes total sense because tomatoes are actually pretty acidic. 257 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:54,100 And I know that I can't, I can't feed tomatoes to my, I have a colony of red wigglers. 258 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:56,100 I have little compost worms. 259 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:57,100 Yeah. 260 00:21:57,100 --> 00:22:01,100 I love them, but I can't feed them tomatoes because it's too acidic. 261 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:03,100 It'll just tear through them. 262 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,100 Yeah, that don't like it. 263 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:06,100 Don't like it. 264 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:08,100 It's very peaceful eats tomatoes. 265 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:10,100 That makes sense. 266 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:14,100 The dubious will eat tomatoes. 267 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:16,100 Really? 268 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,100 Is that what you just said? 269 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:20,100 Oh, no, no, no, no. 270 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,100 I've got so many. 271 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,100 Oh, okay. 272 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,100 Cara, yes. 273 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:34,100 Yeah, I have a friend who actually has a colony of dubious and, um, Madagascar hissing roaches. 274 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:35,100 Those, those guys are cool. 275 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,100 They get huge, right? 276 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:43,100 And they work really well as feeders for the, the big tarantulas, the, the bird eaters, 277 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:50,100 you know, like Goliath bird or Therafosa, Therafosa, Dice, Thermi, or Blondie. 278 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:57,100 Yeah, but, um, that's, they're a good feeder for those guys because all you have to feed them is one and they're, 279 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,100 that's good. 280 00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:00,100 That's a perfect meal. 281 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:11,100 Um, so how, how do you feel that the temperatures of where you keep your inverts like the feeder 282 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:18,100 inverts, does that also have an effect on their behaviors and eating behaviors or, you know, 283 00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:22,100 their colonies, numbers, populations? 284 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,100 Yes. 285 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:30,100 And as you are well aware, and I think everyone else is in the chat, but I can't actually see because I'm blind. 286 00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:34,100 I've been open to that for a while. 287 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:35,100 It's okay. 288 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:42,100 Oh, Chady, Chady has to go actually. 289 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:43,100 Um, so, yeah. 290 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:48,100 The inverts as far as, as far as temperature obviously, as you know, is concerned. 291 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:54,100 And the metabolism, what metabolism changes, which means that they speed up when it gets warmer. 292 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:59,100 They become more voracious the warmer it gets. 293 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:05,100 They're designed to kickstart in summer, aren't they? 294 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:10,100 It's all, all books are designed to so like, oh, but what will our way through spring, but it's summer now. 295 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:11,100 We're all excited. 296 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:12,100 We're all going to get ready. 297 00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:14,100 We're going to eat, have some of it, and nail down. 298 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:18,100 And we want to make and reproduce, uh, a rate for next year. 299 00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:22,100 So, yeah, temperature makes a massive difference. 300 00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:31,100 Like red weather, for instance, keeping them around 35 to 40 seems to be a good temperature. 301 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,100 They think, oh, really? 302 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:35,100 What you keep in the mean. 303 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:40,100 So in Fahrenheit, I believe that's, oh, sorry. 304 00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:41,100 Yeah. 305 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:43,100 Um, no, no, that's okay. 306 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:47,100 I'm, I'm just, you know, translating for the Americans. 307 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:58,100 Uh, hi, hi nineties, I think 35, 90s to, I think that is that, yeah. 308 00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,100 Mid to like upper 80s, I thought. 309 00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,100 Is it? 310 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:03,100 Oh, okay. 311 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:04,100 I don't know. 312 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,100 I'm not very good with math. 313 00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:09,100 I'll find out 35 to 40. 314 00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:12,100 I've got, I've got my own help. 315 00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,100 95 for 35. 316 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,100 Oh, wow. 317 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,100 Okay. 318 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:22,100 So, so thought he's going to be, uh, yeah, about 104. 319 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,100 So it's like, yeah, 95 to 105. 320 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,100 Okay. 321 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,100 So that's the best temperature for those. 322 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:32,100 It's, it do be a roaches at that temperature as well. 323 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:37,100 Uh, how do you get them to be at that temperature? 324 00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:39,100 Uh, heat max, heat max. 325 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,100 Okay. 326 00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:41,100 Where do you place the heat? 327 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:44,100 Like, do you keep the heat mats in a certain position or? 328 00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:46,100 Yes. 329 00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:50,100 Do it cunningly because you don't want more than one heat mat if you don't have to. 330 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:56,100 So you've got your, your, your bin, uh, handy little pots for new things. 331 00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:58,100 You've got your bin with you. 332 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:01,100 Let's say you do be a thing and then is your bin with your red roaches. 333 00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:03,100 I'll be your regular. 334 00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:05,100 Put the heat mat on top of here. 335 00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,100 Red ones on there. 336 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:09,100 Oh, okay. 337 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:10,100 Awesome. 338 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:13,100 With one heat mat. 339 00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:14,100 Well, that makes a lot. 340 00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:15,100 Yeah. 341 00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:16,100 No, that makes total sense. 342 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,100 I appreciate that. 343 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,100 Um, okay. 344 00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:22,100 And they go, they absolutely go. 345 00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:24,100 They're cool with that sort of temperature. 346 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:25,100 They love it. 347 00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:26,100 Absolutely. 348 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:27,100 So. 349 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:28,100 Okay. 350 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,100 So this is, this is really interesting for me. 351 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:37,100 I find that my tarantulas actually benefit from a diverse diet. 352 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:42,100 So I, I do feed them mostly crickets, but I do also feed them other things like corn, 353 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:48,100 worms, roaches, you know, uh, the super worms, um, these, this sort of things, 354 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:52,100 like when they're tiny, tiny swings, I feed them, uh, fruit flies. 355 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:59,100 So that being said, are mantises dissimilar to tarantulas in that way? 356 00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:04,100 Do they really not prefer to eat a variety of insects? 357 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:09,100 I'd like to think they do because in the wild, of course, they're not just eating 358 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:12,100 one thing every single day. 359 00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:17,100 Plus the variety of intake just like us. 360 00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:22,100 You know, if we, if we, I'm trying to think something, you know, as well as I do. 361 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,100 Okay. 362 00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:28,100 We like to eat tarantulas every single day where we're not going to be at our tip top 363 00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:29,100 optimal condition. 364 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:33,100 If we just eat, it might have proteins, you might have some cows, 365 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:39,100 seeming I've got some, he's got some sugars and salts, definitely. 366 00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:45,100 But we eat in that every single day and we're not varying what we, what our intake is. 367 00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:50,100 It's like you can't, well, some people argue you can't, but if you were just eating plates 368 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:57,100 of steak all the time, you know, there's, there's going to be issues in your body where, 369 00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:59,100 where things aren't working properly. 370 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:08,100 So I think it's the same with insects or predatory insects that require, they don't just catch 371 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:09,100 one thing. 372 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:15,100 If they're not aphasias, which obviously is, you know, means they only eat one thing. 373 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:16,100 Yeah. 374 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:20,100 Like yes, and stick in is not aphasias. 375 00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:24,100 They'll only eat one leaf from one tree. 376 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:25,100 You know what I mean? 377 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:26,100 Right. 378 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:27,100 Like kind of like koalas. 379 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,100 They only eat from eucalyptus. 380 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:30,100 Yeah. 381 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:31,100 Yeah. 382 00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:32,100 Exactly. 383 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:33,100 Exactly. 384 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:34,100 Yeah. 385 00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:35,100 Yeah. 386 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:36,100 Absolutely. 387 00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,100 And pandas with bamboo. 388 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,100 Yeah. 389 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,100 Yeah. 390 00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:40,100 No, their designs eat meat. 391 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,100 For some strange reason, they just like bamboo. 392 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,100 I think they're just lazy out there like ghost pandas. 393 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,100 But yeah. 394 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,100 Yeah. 395 00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,100 I think they are. 396 00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:46,100 Maybe so. 397 00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:47,100 I do believe that the differences and the input, there are some differences. 398 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:58,100 There are some scientific papers on this. 399 00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,100 I wasn't quite sure this was a question. 400 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,100 I was going to ask this a little bit about a lot myself. 401 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,100 But there are scientific papers on this. 402 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:06,100 I have read them in the past. 403 00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:16,100 The benefits of feeding your pets with a varied diet over a one-day diet. 404 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:23,100 So if you don't feed your cats, if you've ever noticed in the adverts when there are 405 00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:31,100 the commercials you can't do it, they're advertising that dog or cat food say, it contains 406 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:34,100 everything your dog or cat needs. 407 00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:35,100 Right. 408 00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:39,100 So all those things are in here. 409 00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:40,100 That's interesting. 410 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,100 I feel like it's a lot like us as well. 411 00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:49,100 Because if you're only eating chocolate donuts every day, you're not really going to enjoy 412 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:50,100 that. 413 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:55,100 You might enjoy it a little bit. 414 00:29:55,100 --> 00:30:03,100 But yeah, no, it's not going to be very good or beneficial to you in the long run because 415 00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:07,100 you'll find yourself eating more because you'll just get hungry or your body is just going 416 00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:10,100 to cycle through it, essentially. 417 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:18,100 You might get cravings or other things like it, cravings, proteins, you know, I have terrariums 418 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:23,100 and you can say, ah, I can just eat chicken or something. 419 00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:29,100 It's like you can get meat cravings, which I can understand. 420 00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:37,100 I think our cravings come from our bodies for sure. 421 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:41,100 Like I think that comes from within our own biochemistry. 422 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:46,100 Your body is just going to say, hey, we're getting a lot of muscle cramps. 423 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:49,100 I think we need a little more potassium and fiber. 424 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:57,100 So the taste that come to mind are going to be like eggplant and bananas and maybe even 425 00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,100 yams. 426 00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,100 That's where that potassium is going to be coming from. 427 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:06,100 And then of course a little bit of folic acid because our bodies are complex. 428 00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:13,100 I really feel like it would be remiss for us to not assume the same in inverts that their 429 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,100 bodies are complex. 430 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:23,100 So they are going to need different kinds of feeder insects to keep them at their prime 431 00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,100 healthiest. 432 00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:27,100 Sorry, Mike. 433 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:31,100 My cat is lonely, I guess. 434 00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:37,100 It's a ghost mantis fly from a plant to an aileron. 435 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,100 Oh, that's awesome. 436 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:42,100 I've got the same as you, but I'm tiny. 437 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,100 Yeah, right? 438 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:50,100 No, I think mantises are just some of the coolest inverts though. 439 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:54,100 I would love to hang out in your invert room for sure. 440 00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:58,100 Well, there's hundreds in here at the moment and there's hundreds more waiting to come 441 00:31:58,100 --> 00:31:59,100 out. 442 00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,100 Nice. 443 00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:01,100 It is fun. 444 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:05,100 Of course, I don't just have the mantis. 445 00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:08,100 I've got lots of different inverts. 446 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,100 So it's a big thing. 447 00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:15,100 The mantis obviously are a major deal. 448 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:19,100 But I have more isopods than mantis. 449 00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:20,100 Oh, wow. 450 00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:21,100 I believe it. 451 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,100 That's cool. 452 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:27,100 I have more species of isopods and actually physically more individual isopods than I 453 00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:30,100 think mantis at any one time. 454 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,100 Always, always. 455 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:34,100 Absolutely. 456 00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:40,100 This is, I can't have an isopod on my shoulder while I'm walking around all the time. 457 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:46,100 I'm a computer and I like that interaction with the mantis. 458 00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:48,100 You can't have with most inverts. 459 00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:52,100 In fact, I'm struggling to think of another invert. 460 00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:59,100 I can't actually have that relationship with us, you know, have it on your desk, out of 461 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:04,100 its tank, or on a plant next year, or on you, you know, just having to wander around. 462 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,100 No, I agree. 463 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:12,100 I mean, maybe, maybe a beetle, like a Hercules beetle or, you know, a big guy like that, like 464 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,100 those rhinoceros beetles, what are those got? 465 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,100 They're huge, right? 466 00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:21,100 So I mean, I could see somebody having like a cool Hercules beetle. 467 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,100 Hercules beetle just chilling on their shoulder. 468 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,100 Like, I could see that. 469 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,100 All right. 470 00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:28,100 Thanks. 471 00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:29,100 Just really happy. 472 00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:30,100 Yeah, there you go. 473 00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:31,100 You're done. 474 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,100 You got me. 475 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,100 You got me. 476 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:34,100 Yeah, see you. 477 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:35,100 See you. 478 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,100 See you. 479 00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:42,100 Well, and you know, maybe even assassin bugs. 480 00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,100 No. 481 00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:46,100 I mean, they just like to hang out on their core ground. 482 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,100 I don't see, they don't do much else. 483 00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:52,100 They pick on each other though, when what, when it's time to feed them. 484 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:54,100 It's, it's pretty funny. 485 00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,100 No, no. 486 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,100 No, I'm not afraid. 487 00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:02,100 No, that's a big no for me for the assassin bugs. 488 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,100 No, I, I agree. 489 00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:04,100 I'm sorry. 490 00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,100 It is kind of like a sting. 491 00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:06,100 Yeah. 492 00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:14,100 They have, they do have a protubus stinger that fur their mouth that they, it's pretty 493 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:15,100 cool. 494 00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:18,100 Unless you're on the end of it. 495 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:21,100 Yeah, unless you're like on the, yeah, the wrong end of it for sure. 496 00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:25,100 But no, mantises I think are probably the most peaceful. 497 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:30,100 They're probably the most like interactive because a beetle probably isn't going to interact 498 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:31,100 much, right? 499 00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:36,100 They come over, the beetles come over as extremely young. 500 00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:39,100 They come over like just this big tank. 501 00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:45,100 They just want to out through things though, like it hasn't got any, the actual fact that 502 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:49,100 when a mantis will look at you when you make a noise or a quick movement, it can't hear 503 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,100 you by the way. 504 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,100 It's feeling the vibration. 505 00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:52,100 No, it's vibration. 506 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:55,100 It's doing it without looking at you straight in the eye. 507 00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:58,100 They always look like they're looking at you straight in the eye. 508 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,100 They do look like that. 509 00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:01,100 They do. 510 00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:05,100 That to me, just the fact that they can move the neck. 511 00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:08,100 You perceive intelligence in, in that creature. 512 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:15,100 You see where there isn't any, you know, to it to, to, we just level them up a bit as 513 00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:19,100 soon as you see them moving their egg around and you know, what's going on here and I've 514 00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:21,100 just noticed that passing. 515 00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:26,100 So I'll have a look over there and it's, it's that's, that's what does it for me. 516 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:31,100 It seems like a fact that I always look at like, I think we're jumping spiders as well. 517 00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:32,100 Yeah. 518 00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:33,100 Jumping spiders do this. 519 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:37,100 If a walk past the jumping spiders, they're like, oh, go out. 520 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:40,100 What are you doing? 521 00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:41,100 Yeah. 522 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:43,100 That cracks me up. 523 00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,100 It just really makes me laugh. 524 00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:47,100 They're very curious. 525 00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:53,100 I'm so excited that you mentioned the jumping spiders being as curious as they are because 526 00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:59,100 that's really cool that you're so, look at you associating these little jumping spiders 527 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,100 with something that makes you smile. 528 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:04,100 Oh, I do like true spiders. 529 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,100 I just don't like tranches. 530 00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:07,100 Okay. 531 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:14,100 I'm tiny, tiny, tiny jumping spiders right behind it. 532 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,100 That's cool. 533 00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:17,100 So I think that's great. 534 00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:23,100 So I had another question about super worms for you. 535 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,100 What is the best way of keeping super worms? 536 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:31,100 You said, or the darkling beetles, the big guys. 537 00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,100 What's the best way of keeping them? 538 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:35,100 So like keeping them on soil. 539 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:36,100 Yeah. 540 00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:37,100 What do you do? 541 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:41,100 Do you essentially make like an environment for them? 542 00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:42,100 Yes. 543 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:50,100 Generally, the substrate that I mix for ice pods, I use for beetles. 544 00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:57,100 And the substrate is generally shot pot compost. 545 00:36:57,100 --> 00:37:02,100 The cheapest one you can possibly find because that's the best one. 546 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:07,100 That's the one that's got all the free stuff in it. 547 00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,100 So it's got all bits of wood in it already. 548 00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,100 It's got leaves in it. 549 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:17,100 It's so cheap that you know for a fact that they haven't bought any fertilizer in it 550 00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:21,100 or any pesticides in it because they don't spend any more money than they have to. 551 00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:22,100 It's cheap. 552 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:27,100 So the cheapest one possible is always the best one for your ice pods. 553 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,100 And that's your question. 554 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,100 The more you work. 555 00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:37,100 So it would be compost or topsoil if you're British. 556 00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:40,100 Leaves, dried up dead leaves in there. 557 00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:41,100 And so. 558 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:42,100 Okay. 559 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,100 I'm sorry. 560 00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,100 White wood. 561 00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:48,100 People get confused what white wood is. 562 00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:52,100 They think it's just wood that's white and it's not. 563 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,100 It's hard wood. 564 00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,100 So any hard wood. 565 00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,100 Okay. 566 00:37:56,100 --> 00:38:02,100 So it's just a piece of wood that's broken up and just choked in there of mixed up. 567 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:06,100 And the Beatles will be anything in there. 568 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:07,100 Wonderful. 569 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:12,100 You need to put soft like this. 570 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,100 Here we go. 571 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,100 Soft hard wood. 572 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,100 Makes sense. 573 00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:20,100 Yes. 574 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:23,100 It sounds pretty funny, but I get it. 575 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:26,100 Soft at one second. 576 00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,100 Thank you. 577 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:36,100 I think I know what he means, but like chunks of saying oak or. 578 00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:39,100 Feeders something like that. 579 00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:41,100 This is birch. 580 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:42,100 Okay. 581 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:43,100 Yeah. 582 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:47,100 I see why they call it white wood when it starts to drop. 583 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:50,100 But if I do this, my fingers. 584 00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,100 Yeah, you break parts. 585 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,100 Yeah. 586 00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,100 And I can just crumble this entire thing. 587 00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,100 You're piece by piece. 588 00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:05,100 So a piece of this, a small piece inside with the Beatles and the Beatles put their over 589 00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:09,100 positive in a later eggs inside the wood. 590 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:13,100 So obviously they're beetles. 591 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:17,100 The eggs are going to turn into worms. 592 00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:19,100 They're going to eat the wood. 593 00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:20,100 That's fantastic. 594 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:21,100 Thank you. 595 00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:25,100 I didn't even know that about Mario Beatles. 596 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:29,100 And the types of words. 597 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,100 You don't you. 598 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:33,100 A shot with a blame. 599 00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:40,100 Lane eggs in the frame, the frame of the tank where they're in the way in about the 600 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:47,100 front between, oh, geez, between the glass door and the frame that laying in between 601 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:53,100 that part so I can actually see the put their over positive in a leg. 602 00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:56,100 So it's really good. 603 00:39:56,100 --> 00:40:00,100 Really sort of proves the point of where they're laying. 604 00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,100 Cool. 605 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:07,100 And they don't need to eat anything else other than the soft hardwood. 606 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,100 Not really. 607 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:13,100 I mean, you can chuck like I said before, you can chuck these are apples off tree outside. 608 00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,100 I just found. 609 00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:15,100 Okay. 610 00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:17,100 Just slice them up. 611 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:20,100 The Beatles will eat them. 612 00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:21,100 Okay. 613 00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,100 Also things. 614 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:24,100 Awesome. 615 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,100 Carrots. 616 00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:27,100 Well, oh, yeah. 617 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:34,100 I know there are the dubia roaches definitely like carrots as well. 618 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,100 So do the histers, the big old histers. 619 00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,100 So all right. 620 00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:43,100 I mean, do you have anything else to add to feeders? 621 00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:52,100 And like, do you think that there's any information that a beginner might really need to know about feeders before we go? 622 00:40:52,100 --> 00:41:04,100 Well, I think you could probably do an entire session on things like flying feeders. 623 00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:08,100 Feeders for the non predatory. 624 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:13,100 After thoughts like I said feeders. 625 00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:14,100 Yeah. 626 00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:18,100 Just tons and tons of things you could go over. 627 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:22,100 It's an endless, endless subject. 628 00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:26,100 There's always somebody somewhere else something else to say. 629 00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,100 So I have some input on it, which is great. 630 00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:32,100 Because the more input you get, the more control group you've got. 631 00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:36,100 And you can probably work out what's the best way of doing things. 632 00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:38,100 Yeah. 633 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:46,100 If anyone's got any information that contradicts what I've said, please put it in the comments so I can read it. 634 00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:54,100 Yeah, we're all about learning and, you know, growing through that, that learning, growing through that. 635 00:41:54,100 --> 00:42:00,100 Because in all honesty, I've been told all my life that, you know, knowledge is power. 636 00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:13,100 So I just want to help empower the community and the hobby a little better to help the advancement of these tarantulas and mantises and any invert that we need to feed. 637 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,100 So Simon, did you have it? 638 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:23,100 I'm going to say that this is the part where we're going to shamelessly plug things that we're working on or our own channels. 639 00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:27,100 Whatever you got, what's going on Simon. 640 00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,100 Yes, Samantha's garden. 641 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:34,100 Just, just to be honest, if something takes you fancy, watch it. 642 00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:38,100 I'm not really, not really up for promoting too much. 643 00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,100 I don't have to scream out. 644 00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:47,100 If you want to see it, I do a bit of everything on where I'm quite a few different inverts similar to this. 645 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,100 I've done stuff on feeders. 646 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:56,100 I have to review because I did small things, but yeah, that's just got the burn mantis down. 647 00:42:56,100 --> 00:43:00,100 All right, that sounds perfect. 648 00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:07,100 I'm actually going to plug in my channel because you guys always tell me I'm not so good at this. 649 00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:14,100 So check out my YouTube channel Tarantula on YouTube. 650 00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:16,100 You'll be able to find it pretty easily. 651 00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:21,100 I am going to be releasing a video this weekend. 652 00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:24,100 So it's going to be the whole of Thayla Longopees. 653 00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:33,100 I just basically, I'm going to talk about the species and then I've got a very small sling spider rehouse for next week, 654 00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:38,100 but I do two in one so we can check that out. 655 00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:42,100 And then I think this week, yeah, I just have all that going on. 656 00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:45,100 Obviously, Invert Podcast and Shady Things. 657 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,100 I love Shady Things channel. 658 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:49,100 She is a lot of fun. 659 00:43:49,100 --> 00:44:01,100 She kind of brings, I think she brings out like a side of me that I know, like the emo kind of moody, dark humor kind of side. 660 00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:02,100 And I really like her channel. 661 00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:03,100 So check out Shady Things. 662 00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,100 She is very, very cool. 663 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,100 Other than that, this is us. 664 00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:08,100 This is Inverticast. 665 00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:11,100 Thank you everybody for tuning in. 666 00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:17,100 If you still have burning questions about feeders, you can post them in the Facebook page. 667 00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:20,100 Or in the comments. 668 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,100 Thank you. 669 00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,100 Thank you. 670 00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,100 Thank you. 671 00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:18,100 Thank you. 672 00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:48,100 Thank you. 673 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,100 Thank you. 674 00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:48,100 Thank you. 675 00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:18,100 Thank you. 676 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,100 Thank you. 677 00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:18,100 Thank you. 678 00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:48,100 Thank you. 679 00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:18,100 Thank you. 680 00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,100 Thank you. 681 00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:18,100 Thank you. 682 00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:48,100 Thank you. 683 00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:18,100 Thank you. 684 00:52:47,100 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