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and welcome to invertec, I-
am Daren refer to white
who has joined Inverticast recently because he is just that cool.
And he likes spending time with us, I don't know.
So today we are going to be talking about feeders.
And so what that basically means is little bugs and things that I feed to my tarantulas
and what Simon would feed to his mantises.
Oh, good evening. Hello, Shady. Oh, it's always so nice to see Shady.
Okay, so sorry. So, Simon, my first question for you.
How did you get your feeders in the beginning?
Because I know that you keep colonies.
So, and that's probably a pretty big difference for me is that I will go to a shop
and I'll pick up whatever feeders I need.
Sometimes I get a little extra, sometimes not.
And then I come home and feed my tarantulas.
So how did you get yours?
At the start, I was buying the Muggleine.
When I started going a bit bigger with them, but before that,
it was all different cattle and fish because you could only get a limited choice in feeders.
So, same as you go to the pet shop and buy whatever they had that was the size for what you like to feed.
That's it.
Okay.
Okay, cool. So how, like, what made you, obviously you have a lot of mantises.
So it's probably a really good thing for you to have colonies of superworms because I know that
you might not live like in that big of a city. It's a little more convenient for you guys to just have those colonies.
Can you speak on that a little bit?
I can, I can. I was shutting up then actually.
I'm trying to...
You sort of, you sort of, it was expecting you to carry on. So sorry if you were.
All good. All good.
Yeah, I think it's not the availability of the fact that I can just go out and get them.
Believe it or not, I have a pet shop 10 minutes away, 10 minutes walk away.
I have to walk through the woods, which means great deal to me because it means I can get some food every single log and see what's under it
and pick up the moss, et cetera, and bring them home as well.
So I've got easy access to feeders if I run out just down the road.
And I live four miles away from one of England's biggest cities, which is Manchester.
So again, if I run out, it's four miles down the road, which is six kilometers.
I don't know, something like that. I speak of the world.
No, no worries. Six kilometers. That's about three and a half miles-ish.
Well, four miles. So I think it's six kilometers. I don't know.
Anyway, that's all I was doing.
It's the sheer volume required. If I was to go and buy them, I really, really would be spending so much money that it would make any sense to me.
It's much easier just to have some. I use this for anything.
I use boxes like this.
I've got crickets in this one. I've got micro crickets under it.
And then I've got red runners and then dubia rogue cheers.
And then several different species of springtails, spring-wise, aphids, wax worms, meal worms, and probably other things that have forgotten.
Wax moths. So yeah, that's because I've got an array of insects from tiny things like mantis nymphs, but just hatched all the way to adults that will eat an adult dubia roach.
Absolutely.
I have to have a hole in between as well. And the ones that make a difference is that we've got meal worms for the tarantulas, for instance, out of the meal worms.
And the assassin books like crickets. So there's a lot of different sort of things we've got to feed in different stages, aged stages.
So when we discussed, actually, we discussed feeders before.
And you actually mentioned that in the UK, or where you are, you can actually just go out into your garden or your yard and find like a couple isopods, or maybe you find a darkling beetle or something like that.
And then you can basically just capture the bugs from outside and harvest them that way.
Here in the States, it's really not a great idea to do that, mainly because of all the insecticides and pesticides that a lot of gardeners and other people in their homesteads and their homes will use for their yards.
But you also mentioned that it's not legal for insecticides in the UK. Do you know why that is?
It is legal for some pesticides, but they have to be rigorously vetted.
And most of the pesticides like farmers have a different insecticide situation to the people in the house.
If you've got a supermarket and you buy an insecticide or something like that, it's not going to be the same sort of potency as like what a farmer would get.
And most of them are biodegradable and insta-kills. So they either kill insects where it is when it eats it or when it comes in contact with it.
The ones in your garden, if you live near a city, the chances are the ones in your garden are going to be 100% okidori fine.
And if they're not, you can just keep them for one day and that should be enough to quarantine them.
The main problem would be parasites. I've been doing it for a long time by just grabbing stuff out the garden and getting a single problem.
I don't wash moss or sticks or branches or bark. I don't clean any of it. I just bring an enclosure, dump it on the go.
And you've said that this is really common practice. So this is like really normal for you to be able to just go outside.
There's not really a whole lot of pesticide use where you're from and it's a lot easier because I live in a big city.
So for me, if I were to step outside into my yard to collect specimen or dirt or whatever for an enclosure, the grass isn't even like a native species of grass here.
So there comes a lot of other insects and stuff that actually don't belong here in Colorado.
Like the Japanese tree beetle at the moment is wreaking havoc on some of the pine in the mountains and stuff.
So I definitely would not go out and grab some of that material. Pesticides and weeds and strange things that I just don't know what's going on in this yard.
We're just very like, especially in a city, we're really kind of squished together. But there are also other benefits.
Like there are mealworms and superworms and crickets and stuff pretty much ready for me within about two miles or three miles from where I live.
So I just hop on a scooter and run over and grab as many crickets as I need.
So I mean, it is kind of convenient. But for you, that's, I mean, it makes sense, you know, like our worlds are so different, but also kind of the same. It's really cool.
Well, do you have a favorite feeder insect to like feed your mantises or?
A favorite as in what's best or favorite as in what's easiest for me to feed.
Well, how about both?
Okay.
Cuproaches, red runners, probably.
Okay, cool.
Probably the best protein wise and fat wise for mantis.
The only problem I've got with them is catching them, which is a pain.
I generally like the fair sized ones, I'll give them the roaches.
Before that, they'll get an array of all sorts of different things from agents to fruit flies to.
And then you've got blue bottles for the bottles.
Oh, yeah.
I think my favorite is also the red runners. I like the tarantulas responses to them because they're just, it's pretty epic to watch them grab the roaches.
Because they are very fast little roaches, like they're incredibly fast.
And yeah, so I agree, catching them is a pain.
So that is also one of my favorite feeders to feed.
We're just sitting here with our, you know, we probably look really strange with a couple of tongs and...
You've got this much stuff to feed that can be awful, absolutely awful.
Oh, yeah.
And you're having a bad day and you can't catch them.
Or there's a certain size you want in the box.
Yeah.
And then that, because most people, especially yours with the tarantula hobby,
Jay Schemily, the male roaches that you're giving out, the tarantulas, isn't it?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they are very quick and the tarantulas actually can catch them a lot faster than I can.
It's pretty impressive.
Yeah.
I mean, it's the male roaches that you feed to them, isn't it?
You know, when you open the box, you've got to get a male roach for you.
You know, you don't want to...
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
You don't need a female...
You want the females to reproduce.
You want them to, you know, create more...
I'm watching it because mine is the size.
So it's not about the male or the female.
It's like, I want them this size.
So I could have grabbed that size.
Yeah.
That's what I'm using.
If I can catch them, that's what I'm using.
So it can't be a bit...
A bit hard work to keep the...
At the moment, I don't like doing it, but this week I'm going to be feeding them crickets.
And crickets are always the best idea to feed to mantis.
Because they tend to eat any dead crickets and then they pass it on and it becomes a problem.
I've not had a problem with it yet, but it isn't a problem, so I'm told.
Sure.
I've yet to see that happen.
Okay, so speaking of that, like speaking of the best food for your inverts, I do have a question for that.
You said that red runners actually provide the most sustenance or the most protein-based sustenance, essentially.
So are there other nutritional benefits to other feeder insects?
So like, I know that crickets are usually pretty good protein.
Rancholas do love them.
But obviously, I honestly would prefer red runner roaches over crickets.
So like, is there other benefits to say superworms or mealworms or hornworms?
If Ben's what you're feeding, I don't use hornworms, etc. for any of these guys.
Because there's too much fat in them and they can't process it and it's no good for them at all in getting digestion.
Digestion issues, so mantis are not very good with fat at all.
Fatty substances, they don't mind sweet substances like they have been seen in the wild, taking eggs from flowers.
But only small amounts, you can't remember that small amount, you're going to give mantis or pretty much any of them.
Because most of them will take things like honey, sugar water, nectar, meat, they'll take it, but you shouldn't offer it in massive amounts.
It should only be a little bit.
They don't really need it to be honest.
They just need the protein.
But people, we do that.
We'll come on to that in a minute when you go on the non-life feeders.
I'll talk about what I was just going to say then, about people feeding things because they want to and not for the benefit of their actual pair.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely.
Is there a way that we can tell if our invertebrate, whether it be assassin bugs or ranchlis or jumping spiders,
is there a way to be able to tell if they actually like what they're eating or if they prefer something?
How do you go about doing that?
Yeah, I'm going to say, yeah, I'm only going to speak for mantis here.
But I'm going to say, they will definitely know the difference between something that's been gut-loaded.
If you pass on that, I can't remember if I saw what you sent.
I can't remember if you mentioned gut-loading, so I don't know if I said anything.
Oh, I'm aware of it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's okay.
I don't know if you'd like to bring up in a bit.
Yeah, absolutely.
We can talk about gut-loading.
Well, gut-loading is obviously the way you get a feeder insect and you purge it by giving it a certain thing.
Like you can give it more crickets or apples or lettuce.
You're actually doing the mantis a favor or whatever it is a favor by giving them this item rather than eating.
If you go into a shop and buy a box of crickets that have been sat in that box for days on end, eating nothing but other dead crickets and skins and sawdust that's in that box,
the crickets full of, pretty much, it's dropping its nutritional value already.
If you feed them straight out of the box, it's just really low nutritional value.
Okay.
So if you're feeding the insect, whether it be a cricket or whether it be a mealworm, cockroach, I forgot what they were called.
Sorry.
If you start, if you actually give them something, like I will give them an apple, I'll slice an apple, chuck it in, eat an apple,
eat the apple slices overnight, take the rest out and I'll give them something else that's going to pick up their nutritional value when they're eating.
But I have noticed that if I feed something on fruit, a mantis is more likely to eat that particular item.
It will pick one item over and over if one has been fed on fruit.
Okay.
So that makes a lot of sense.
Lettuce, for instance.
Sure.
That's fascinating.
Okay.
So you do, like you have noticed that the fruit fed crickets and whatnot are more appealing to your mantis.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's cool.
Well, that's cool.
I really like that.
So you mentioned, no, I mean, because I actually really agree with that.
I have noticed that my tarantulas are the same way.
Like if I bring home super worms rather than crickets or if I bring home like mealworms, mealworms are not really a big favorite of my tarantulas.
They really don't like them.
Like some of the old world guys do, they'll scoop them right up.
But mealworms are, I use them mostly for like my little jumping spiders and true spiders and stuff because they'll just go for it.
But I have noticed that roaches are definitely their favorite thing.
Like they pounce on those a lot quicker than they do the crickets.
Like they, you know, it's almost like they enjoy just, you know, so, you know, I definitely think our creatures do give us indication.
That, you know, they have a favorite food that they like to eat over another.
So, so you also mentioned in talking about nutrition.
There are proper ways of feeding crickets and roaches and and mealworms and such.
So what is like the best way to keep a super worm colony per se?
Are we talking Mario worms?
I think so.
There's a very large darkling beetle that.
Yeah.
I think we had them around last time we did the beetle one.
I had a darkling beetle in my hand from.
You did.
Right.
Yeah.
But I've got loads of eggs here from them.
So I'm hoping that these guys will have a new colony soon.
So that'd be great.
And I'm going to feed them.
Oh, that's awesome.
These, these will generally eat pretty much anything, but.
Okay.
The groutons in the wild could probably eat more and rotting leaves and even substrate.
They generally just eat that sort of stuff off.
If you're going to add them, you can, you can feed them through.
So I'd say melon seems to be something that like quite a lot.
I noticed.
Okay.
So things like melon is fruit flies.
Oh yeah.
Fruit flies and fungus gnats.
If you're, you know, if it's a warm day like today is bloody warm in here.
And you put that in an enclosure and you have with your meal worms or whatever, your super worms
or anything else really.
Like within a couple of hours, the thing is full of fruit flies or fungus gnats.
And you know, they just come out of nowhere.
So, yeah, absolutely.
That's the only problem.
I have fed them all lettuce.
Okay.
And cucumber.
Cucumber's got absolutely zero nutritional value for any animal.
And it was just like it, but it has got value because it's got hydration value.
Hydration.
Yeah.
I was going to guess that.
Yeah.
That's the value.
There's no real nutritional value in it.
You know, it's nothing massive, no massive benefits.
Same with lettuce.
Lettuce has like trace calcium and stuff like that in it and some other things, but it's
not exactly a powerhouse food.
If you know what I mean.
Well, that's, you know, generally across the board, isn't it?
Vegetables.
They're not, they're not going to provide nutrients.
Nutrition as a mix, et cetera.
So, so feeding them fruits is actually a much better option than vegetables.
I find that.
Yeah, I find the fruit is a much better option.
Okay.
Don't tend to like so much.
It's too much.
So I, that might just be me.
It might just be our breed over here.
No, that makes total sense because tomatoes are actually pretty acidic.
And I know that I can't, I can't feed tomatoes to my, I have a colony of red wigglers.
I have little compost worms.
Yeah.
I love them, but I can't feed them tomatoes because it's too acidic.
It'll just tear through them.
Yeah, that don't like it.
Don't like it.
It's very peaceful eats tomatoes.
That makes sense.
The dubious will eat tomatoes.
Really?
Is that what you just said?
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I've got so many.
Oh, okay.
Cara, yes.
Yeah, I have a friend who actually has a colony of dubious and, um, Madagascar hissing roaches.
Those, those guys are cool.
They get huge, right?
And they work really well as feeders for the, the big tarantulas, the, the bird eaters,
you know, like Goliath bird or Therafosa, Therafosa, Dice, Thermi, or Blondie.
Yeah, but, um, that's, they're a good feeder for those guys because all you have to feed them is one and they're,
that's good.
That's a perfect meal.
Um, so how, how do you feel that the temperatures of where you keep your inverts like the feeder
inverts, does that also have an effect on their behaviors and eating behaviors or, you know,
their colonies, numbers, populations?
Yes.
And as you are well aware, and I think everyone else is in the chat, but I can't actually see because I'm blind.
I've been open to that for a while.
It's okay.
Oh, Chady, Chady has to go actually.
Um, so, yeah.
The inverts as far as, as far as temperature obviously, as you know, is concerned.
And the metabolism, what metabolism changes, which means that they speed up when it gets warmer.
They become more voracious the warmer it gets.
They're designed to kickstart in summer, aren't they?
It's all, all books are designed to so like, oh, but what will our way through spring, but it's summer now.
We're all excited.
We're all going to get ready.
We're going to eat, have some of it, and nail down.
And we want to make and reproduce, uh, a rate for next year.
So, yeah, temperature makes a massive difference.
Like red weather, for instance, keeping them around 35 to 40 seems to be a good temperature.
They think, oh, really?
What you keep in the mean.
So in Fahrenheit, I believe that's, oh, sorry.
Yeah.
Um, no, no, that's okay.
I'm, I'm just, you know, translating for the Americans.
Uh, hi, hi nineties, I think 35, 90s to, I think that is that, yeah.
Mid to like upper 80s, I thought.
Is it?
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
I'm not very good with math.
I'll find out 35 to 40.
I've got, I've got my own help.
95 for 35.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
So, so thought he's going to be, uh, yeah, about 104.
So it's like, yeah, 95 to 105.
Okay.
So that's the best temperature for those.
It's, it do be a roaches at that temperature as well.
Uh, how do you get them to be at that temperature?
Uh, heat max, heat max.
Okay.
Where do you place the heat?
Like, do you keep the heat mats in a certain position or?
Yes.
Do it cunningly because you don't want more than one heat mat if you don't have to.
So you've got your, your, your bin, uh, handy little pots for new things.
You've got your bin with you.
Let's say you do be a thing and then is your bin with your red roaches.
I'll be your regular.
Put the heat mat on top of here.
Red ones on there.
Oh, okay.
Awesome.
With one heat mat.
Well, that makes a lot.
Yeah.
No, that makes total sense.
I appreciate that.
Um, okay.
And they go, they absolutely go.
They're cool with that sort of temperature.
They love it.
Absolutely.
So.
Okay.
So this is, this is really interesting for me.
I find that my tarantulas actually benefit from a diverse diet.
So I, I do feed them mostly crickets, but I do also feed them other things like corn,
worms, roaches, you know, uh, the super worms, um, these, this sort of things,
like when they're tiny, tiny swings, I feed them, uh, fruit flies.
So that being said, are mantises dissimilar to tarantulas in that way?
Do they really not prefer to eat a variety of insects?
I'd like to think they do because in the wild, of course, they're not just eating
one thing every single day.
Plus the variety of intake just like us.
You know, if we, if we, I'm trying to think something, you know, as well as I do.
Okay.
We like to eat tarantulas every single day where we're not going to be at our tip top
optimal condition.
If we just eat, it might have proteins, you might have some cows,
seeming I've got some, he's got some sugars and salts, definitely.
But we eat in that every single day and we're not varying what we, what our intake is.
It's like you can't, well, some people argue you can't, but if you were just eating plates
of steak all the time, you know, there's, there's going to be issues in your body where,
where things aren't working properly.
So I think it's the same with insects or predatory insects that require, they don't just catch
one thing.
If they're not aphasias, which obviously is, you know, means they only eat one thing.
Yeah.
Like yes, and stick in is not aphasias.
They'll only eat one leaf from one tree.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Like kind of like koalas.
They only eat from eucalyptus.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And pandas with bamboo.
Yeah.
No, their designs eat meat.
For some strange reason, they just like bamboo.
I think they're just lazy out there like ghost pandas.
But yeah.
Yeah.
I think they are.
Maybe so.
I do believe that the differences and the input, there are some differences.
There are some scientific papers on this.
I wasn't quite sure this was a question.
I was going to ask this a little bit about a lot myself.
But there are scientific papers on this.
I have read them in the past.
The benefits of feeding your pets with a varied diet over a one-day diet.
So if you don't feed your cats, if you've ever noticed in the adverts when there are
the commercials you can't do it, they're advertising that dog or cat food say, it contains
everything your dog or cat needs.
Right.
So all those things are in here.
That's interesting.
I feel like it's a lot like us as well.
Because if you're only eating chocolate donuts every day, you're not really going to enjoy
that.
You might enjoy it a little bit.
But yeah, no, it's not going to be very good or beneficial to you in the long run because
you'll find yourself eating more because you'll just get hungry or your body is just going
to cycle through it, essentially.
You might get cravings or other things like it, cravings, proteins, you know, I have terrariums
and you can say, ah, I can just eat chicken or something.
It's like you can get meat cravings, which I can understand.
I think our cravings come from our bodies for sure.
Like I think that comes from within our own biochemistry.
Your body is just going to say, hey, we're getting a lot of muscle cramps.
I think we need a little more potassium and fiber.
So the taste that come to mind are going to be like eggplant and bananas and maybe even
yams.
That's where that potassium is going to be coming from.
And then of course a little bit of folic acid because our bodies are complex.
I really feel like it would be remiss for us to not assume the same in inverts that their
bodies are complex.
So they are going to need different kinds of feeder insects to keep them at their prime
healthiest.
Sorry, Mike.
My cat is lonely, I guess.
It's a ghost mantis fly from a plant to an aileron.
Oh, that's awesome.
I've got the same as you, but I'm tiny.
Yeah, right?
No, I think mantises are just some of the coolest inverts though.
I would love to hang out in your invert room for sure.
Well, there's hundreds in here at the moment and there's hundreds more waiting to come
out.
Nice.
It is fun.
Of course, I don't just have the mantis.
I've got lots of different inverts.
So it's a big thing.
The mantis obviously are a major deal.
But I have more isopods than mantis.
Oh, wow.
I believe it.
That's cool.
I have more species of isopods and actually physically more individual isopods than I
think mantis at any one time.
Always, always.
Absolutely.
This is, I can't have an isopod on my shoulder while I'm walking around all the time.
I'm a computer and I like that interaction with the mantis.
You can't have with most inverts.
In fact, I'm struggling to think of another invert.
I can't actually have that relationship with us, you know, have it on your desk, out of
its tank, or on a plant next year, or on you, you know, just having to wander around.
No, I agree.
I mean, maybe, maybe a beetle, like a Hercules beetle or, you know, a big guy like that, like
those rhinoceros beetles, what are those got?
They're huge, right?
So I mean, I could see somebody having like a cool Hercules beetle.
Hercules beetle just chilling on their shoulder.
Like, I could see that.
All right.
Thanks.
Just really happy.
Yeah, there you go.
You're done.
You got me.
Yeah, see you.
See you.
Well, and you know, maybe even assassin bugs.
No.
I mean, they just like to hang out on their core ground.
I don't see, they don't do much else.
They pick on each other though, when what, when it's time to feed them.
It's, it's pretty funny.
No, no.
No, I'm not afraid.
No, that's a big no for me for the assassin bugs.
No, I, I agree.
I'm sorry.
It is kind of like a sting.
Yeah.
They have, they do have a protubus stinger that fur their mouth that they, it's pretty
cool.
Unless you're on the end of it.
Yeah, unless you're like on the, yeah, the wrong end of it for sure.
But no, mantises I think are probably the most peaceful.
They're probably the most like interactive because a beetle probably isn't going to interact
much, right?
They come over, the beetles come over as extremely young.
They come over like just this big tank.
They just want to out through things though, like it hasn't got any, the actual fact that
when a mantis will look at you when you make a noise or a quick movement, it can't hear
you by the way.
It's feeling the vibration.
No, it's vibration.
It's doing it without looking at you straight in the eye.
They always look like they're looking at you straight in the eye.
They do look like that.
They do.
That to me, just the fact that they can move the neck.
You perceive intelligence in, in that creature.
You see where there isn't any, you know, to it to, to, we just level them up a bit as
soon as you see them moving their egg around and you know, what's going on here and I've
just noticed that passing.
So I'll have a look over there and it's, it's that's, that's what does it for me.
It seems like a fact that I always look at like, I think we're jumping spiders as well.
Yeah.
Jumping spiders do this.
If a walk past the jumping spiders, they're like, oh, go out.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
That cracks me up.
It just really makes me laugh.
They're very curious.
I'm so excited that you mentioned the jumping spiders being as curious as they are because
that's really cool that you're so, look at you associating these little jumping spiders
with something that makes you smile.
Oh, I do like true spiders.
I just don't like tranches.
Okay.
I'm tiny, tiny, tiny jumping spiders right behind it.
That's cool.
So I think that's great.
So I had another question about super worms for you.
What is the best way of keeping super worms?
You said, or the darkling beetles, the big guys.
What's the best way of keeping them?
So like keeping them on soil.
Yeah.
What do you do?
Do you essentially make like an environment for them?
Yes.
Generally, the substrate that I mix for ice pods, I use for beetles.
And the substrate is generally shot pot compost.
The cheapest one you can possibly find because that's the best one.
That's the one that's got all the free stuff in it.
So it's got all bits of wood in it already.
It's got leaves in it.
It's so cheap that you know for a fact that they haven't bought any fertilizer in it
or any pesticides in it because they don't spend any more money than they have to.
It's cheap.
So the cheapest one possible is always the best one for your ice pods.
And that's your question.
The more you work.
So it would be compost or topsoil if you're British.
Leaves, dried up dead leaves in there.
And so.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
White wood.
People get confused what white wood is.
They think it's just wood that's white and it's not.
It's hard wood.
So any hard wood.
Okay.
So it's just a piece of wood that's broken up and just choked in there of mixed up.
And the Beatles will be anything in there.
Wonderful.
You need to put soft like this.
Here we go.
Soft hard wood.
Makes sense.
Yes.
It sounds pretty funny, but I get it.
Soft at one second.
Thank you.
I think I know what he means, but like chunks of saying oak or.
Feeders something like that.
This is birch.
Okay.
Yeah.
I see why they call it white wood when it starts to drop.
But if I do this, my fingers.
Yeah, you break parts.
Yeah.
And I can just crumble this entire thing.
You're piece by piece.
So a piece of this, a small piece inside with the Beatles and the Beatles put their over
positive in a later eggs inside the wood.
So obviously they're beetles.
The eggs are going to turn into worms.
They're going to eat the wood.
That's fantastic.
Thank you.
I didn't even know that about Mario Beatles.
And the types of words.
You don't you.
A shot with a blame.
Lane eggs in the frame, the frame of the tank where they're in the way in about the
front between, oh, geez, between the glass door and the frame that laying in between
that part so I can actually see the put their over positive in a leg.
So it's really good.
Really sort of proves the point of where they're laying.
Cool.
And they don't need to eat anything else other than the soft hardwood.
Not really.
I mean, you can chuck like I said before, you can chuck these are apples off tree outside.
I just found.
Okay.
Just slice them up.
The Beatles will eat them.
Okay.
Also things.
Awesome.
Carrots.
Well, oh, yeah.
I know there are the dubia roaches definitely like carrots as well.
So do the histers, the big old histers.
So all right.
I mean, do you have anything else to add to feeders?
And like, do you think that there's any information that a beginner might really need to know about feeders before we go?
Well, I think you could probably do an entire session on things like flying feeders.
Feeders for the non predatory.
After thoughts like I said feeders.
Yeah.
Just tons and tons of things you could go over.
It's an endless, endless subject.
There's always somebody somewhere else something else to say.
So I have some input on it, which is great.
Because the more input you get, the more control group you've got.
And you can probably work out what's the best way of doing things.
Yeah.
If anyone's got any information that contradicts what I've said, please put it in the comments so I can read it.
Yeah, we're all about learning and, you know, growing through that, that learning, growing through that.
Because in all honesty, I've been told all my life that, you know, knowledge is power.
So I just want to help empower the community and the hobby a little better to help the advancement of these tarantulas and mantises and any invert that we need to feed.
So Simon, did you have it?
I'm going to say that this is the part where we're going to shamelessly plug things that we're working on or our own channels.
Whatever you got, what's going on Simon.
Yes, Samantha's garden.
Just, just to be honest, if something takes you fancy, watch it.
I'm not really, not really up for promoting too much.
I don't have to scream out.
If you want to see it, I do a bit of everything on where I'm quite a few different inverts similar to this.
I've done stuff on feeders.
I have to review because I did small things, but yeah, that's just got the burn mantis down.
All right, that sounds perfect.
I'm actually going to plug in my channel because you guys always tell me I'm not so good at this.
So check out my YouTube channel Tarantula on YouTube.
You'll be able to find it pretty easily.
I am going to be releasing a video this weekend.
So it's going to be the whole of Thayla Longopees.
I just basically, I'm going to talk about the species and then I've got a very small sling spider rehouse for next week,
but I do two in one so we can check that out.
And then I think this week, yeah, I just have all that going on.
Obviously, Invert Podcast and Shady Things.
I love Shady Things channel.
She is a lot of fun.
She kind of brings, I think she brings out like a side of me that I know, like the emo kind of moody, dark humor kind of side.
And I really like her channel.
So check out Shady Things.
She is very, very cool.
Other than that, this is us.
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