1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,360 Hello and welcome to Invertercast. It's me and it is Leah. 2 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Hello, yes, I'm here. And we've got someone down below us who I believe is going to be with us now as much as possible. 3 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:41,360 So Simon, welcome to the podcast. Thank you very much. Nice to be here. How are you doing? Not too bad. 4 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:51,360 So how's everyone doing? What have you been up to? Anything? 5 00:00:51,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Yeah, absolutely. I actually stretched my ears to a little larger size. So they're like zero gauge now. 6 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:13,360 That was kind of a painful stretch, but it was worth it. The juice was a squeeze. Anything in the Invert world? 7 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Yeah, I just rehoused Postulotharia regalis. So I made a video of that. I'll be posting that probably this week. 8 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:31,360 And then I've got a few babies I need to rehouse too. Simon, for you, that's spiders. 9 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Yeah. How have you been doing? So I mean, have you been up to much? Well, we know you've been up to a lot like videos every day for the last three weeks. 10 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Yes. A bit of everything. We've been doing a lot in the room. We're doing a lot more shelving, putting out the room. 11 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:59,360 I've got a lot more nymphs coming in. I've got a shipment of jumping spiders. So yeah, doing quite a lot. 12 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:07,360 And more importantly this week, as they happened before we even knew what the subject was, we rehoused our beetles. 13 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:24,360 So yeah. Which beetles have you been rehousing? Well, some beetles mostly, Pachnoda, Martinata, and these guys, which I actually love these guys. 14 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:35,360 I don't even think you can see that. This is Zephobos Moria, which is the super worm beetle, the darkened beetle. 15 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Oh yeah. But I absolutely love these guys. The big ones, they're really cool. 16 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:47,360 The nip actually, we have a bit of a nip up yet, but they're really cool. 17 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:53,360 And we've got absolutely loads of them in a bioactive tank with the... 18 00:02:53,360 --> 00:03:05,360 We've got them with the Nogenatas, we've got them with the mint beetles, some weebles. So I've got a fair few beetles in there, which is quite nice. 19 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,360 And I've got some more coming this week. So that's good. 20 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:16,360 I'm trying to get some rainbow dung beetles and maybe like a Hercules beetle because they're just fascinating. 21 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:23,360 The Hercules beetles are really good. I'm actually looking for one of those for a photo shoot. 22 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:29,360 So yeah, I think if you've seen the photographs that I... 23 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,360 I was going to say, is that the photo shoot for the super secret project that we're not allowed to talk about? 24 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Yeah, yeah. So to see if I could get Hercules beetles. So I have been looking for them, but finding adults is proving very difficult. 25 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,360 I can find the groups, but not the adults. 26 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Yeah. 27 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,360 Oh yeah. 28 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,360 It's sad. 29 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:56,360 I was having a little bit of a look today, just seeing who's out there, who's selling in the UK. 30 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,360 And beetles seem to be very few and far between at the moment. 31 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Interesting. 32 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Did I ask the one Richard Sinberts, he does them. 33 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:13,360 But he always seems to be out of stock. He's more often than not, he's out of stock than he is in stock. 34 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,360 So sorry for not looking at the camera. 35 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,360 Oh, you're fine. 36 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,360 That's all right. This is something for people to listen to. They're just unfortunate enough to have our faces as well. 37 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,360 So don't worry about it. 38 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,360 That's all right. 39 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,360 Just watching his beetle, you see. So I wonder if I am now, but if I don't want to drop it or earth it or anything. 40 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,360 So I'm just keeping an eye on it really. 41 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,360 It'll be okay to have over a long period. 42 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:45,360 See, that's how they come with photographs. What if these beetles, the Earthly beetles, have a scientific name for them. 43 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:52,360 And I've been trying to get older some, but as I say, I can only get the groups and not the adults. 44 00:04:52,360 --> 00:05:01,360 There is a place called Bugs UK that sometimes has them, but again, they haven't got them now. 45 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,360 So it is quite difficult to get decent looking beetles in this country. 46 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:17,360 Well, I think that's really surprising, especially because beetles are actually the largest order of any animal, any organism in the entire world. 47 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:24,360 There are 390,000 known species of beetles throughout the world, worldwide. 48 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:32,360 And if you check out Simon's video, and also I was watching some other stuff as well. 49 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,360 He does actually cover that. 50 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:42,360 So a quarter of the like the populate animals on this planet would be beetles. 51 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,360 Yep, one in one in four of every living thing is a beetle. 52 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,360 How does every footstep not just crunch under your feet then? 53 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,360 That's like, they're everywhere. 54 00:05:54,360 --> 00:06:10,360 And I was reading as well today that they think that there's another like 2 million at least that are still to be scientifically identified and more appearing every week. 55 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:16,360 All the time. Yeah, they're always discovering new species of beetles. 56 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:24,360 And yeah, I read about that estimate as well that there's like 2 million species that still have yet to be discovered. 57 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:32,360 And they're trying to discover them before like, you know, deforestation and loss of habitat actually wipe them out. 58 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,360 So it's pretty, pretty fascinating. 59 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,360 Yeah, it is very much. I mean, a lot of them are found in the Amazon. 60 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:48,360 And I'd say with mantis, they'll be there. I'll find a new mantis in the Amazon that we've never seen before. 61 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,360 But they're finding a lot more beetles, obviously. 62 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:57,360 I mean, it's just sad to think that they're going to bulldoze up on that just for sake of it. 63 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:06,360 And we're going to lose these guys because if they're only finding in the Amazon and we haven't found them before, that means that's the only place to live. 64 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:15,360 Yeah, like they're not down in Suffolk, are they? You know, they're in a very select space. 65 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:23,360 And I think that's the thing with a lot of the inverts that we keep is that they are in specific pockets. 66 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:29,360 So if you look at like the rubber ducky isopods, they're very, they're in very specific spaces, aren't they? 67 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:35,360 And you also get it with some forms of gecko. 68 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Madagascar. Yeah, fully geckos. 69 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,360 The blue gecko you're talking about. Yeah. 70 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Yeah, I believe crested geckos, crested geckos and leaches are from Madagascar. 71 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:59,360 And a few others, I'm sure, and chameleons, tons of chameleons. 72 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:05,360 I mean, I can't make the reptiles sorry. 73 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:12,360 But most of the reptiles in Madagascar, but you know, some of the ones. 74 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:24,360 I know the blue one there, talk about that today, I can't remember its bloody name now, but they're critically endangered and they're only from Tanzania, is it? 75 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,360 So the one that says Tanzania, it's a blue gecko. 76 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,360 Oh, wow. 77 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Oh, I've seen something about that. 78 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:41,360 I would have to do some digging online to find it, but I've definitely seen something about that. 79 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,360 I don't know where they're at a very local locality, aren't they? 80 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Yeah, I've got the villains in the chat, maybe you can pop the name in for us. 81 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,360 If he is. 82 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,360 He might be. 83 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,360 I can't see the chat's all the way over there, so I can't see. 84 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,360 Yeah, it's called DJC or something like that. 85 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,360 No, he's not in the chat yet. 86 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,360 But we have got Bugs of Corner UK. 87 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,360 They would really like a Hercules beetle. 88 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,360 Yeah. 89 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:30,360 And I suppose that sort of can take us onto a bit of a topic really, so I was doing a little bit of research of what would be an easy beginner species to kind of look after it. 90 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:36,360 And I think actually quite a lot of them, as long as you get it right, it's quite easy. 91 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,360 They're all pretty much the same. 92 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:45,360 The easiest species to pick is Pachinode and Adonata, which is the Sunbeam. 93 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,360 They're not only the easiest, but they're actually the cheapest. 94 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,360 And that's the ones you just had out, wasn't it? 95 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,360 Yeah, no, no, that was a darkened beetle from the sunbeam. 96 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,360 There's some beetle that's extremely pretty. 97 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,360 I'll get one out for you in a minute, actually. 98 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,360 Yeah, you were speaking about them, weren't you? 99 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,360 They have like a really nice goldish colour with circles on them. 100 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,360 Yeah, they're good for beetle, right? 101 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,360 I've just bought some more this week, they're coming next week, which is great. 102 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,360 Those are about the best. 103 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,360 I know in America your problem is getting older, those, don't you? 104 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:28,360 Yeah, I think they are quite hard to get hold of in the US. 105 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,360 Those ones, yeah, probably. 106 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:37,360 I'm not sure because I haven't really looked, but I know that Hercules beetles occur naturally here. 107 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,360 They're from here. 108 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,360 I'm a member of a Facebook group called All Bugs Go to Kevin. 109 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,360 And it's basically a bug identification group. 110 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,360 Do you have to give them all your bugs though? 111 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,360 Yes, they're sacrificial bugs. 112 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,360 We pay homage to Kevin. 113 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,360 No. 114 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,360 But a few posts actually, actually, pretty recently in the past few weeks or so, 115 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,360 were about Hercules beetles. 116 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,360 And they found this huge beetle in their house and they were like, 117 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,360 what is this? 118 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,360 And a lot of us were like, that's a cool Hercules beetle. 119 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,360 So it's kind of exciting. 120 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,360 All bugs go to Kevin. 121 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,360 All bugs go to Kevin, yes. 122 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,360 I'm joining that group. 123 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,360 Yeah, it's a wonderful group. 124 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,360 It's fantastic. 125 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,360 You'll see lots of spiders. 126 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,360 A lot of people in the US will find some kind of brownish looking spiders. 127 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,360 They look like recluses, but most of the time they're not. 128 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,360 They're like wolf spiders or grass weavers, things like that. 129 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,360 And every now and then you'll see an actual brown recluse. 130 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,360 And it's just really funny. 131 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Everybody always thinks everything is a brown recluse here. 132 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,360 So from what I was looking at, if we go back to beetles, 133 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,360 because you have Hercules beetles, 134 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,360 I think motorcyclists get knocked off their bike constantly by them. 135 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,360 I'm joking there. 136 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,360 So do you have the possibility? 137 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,360 Unfortunately, no, they don't live here naturally. 138 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:18,360 I think our altitude and the weather here is just too cold during the winter. 139 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,360 Although they can hibernate and the like, oh, that's beautiful. 140 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,360 That is really cool if I'm in. 141 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,360 I'll be back with the green swimming. 142 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,360 Yeah, check that out. 143 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,360 But yeah, they occur mostly in like the southeast regions of the US, 144 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,360 so like Florida, the Carolinas, parts of Georgia and Alabama, 145 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,360 mainly in those areas. 146 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,360 So they're very cool. 147 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Yeah, they are. 148 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,360 They can get to an impressive size as well, can't they? 149 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Oh yeah, they get very massive. 150 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,360 I believe they can be about two and a half inches, 151 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,360 which is what, about six centimeters? 152 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Not meters. 153 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,360 No, centimeters. 154 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:11,360 Okay, I was going to say, I don't want to come across the six meter. 155 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Yeah, right. 156 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Yeah, but they come in all sizes. 157 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:25,360 And I think the smallest beetle in the world is only about one millimeter, 158 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,360 and it's a feather wing beetle. 159 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,360 And that's a... 160 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,360 Simon has a thought there. 161 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Yeah, I know what it means. 162 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,360 I thought I knew the name a bit, the scientific name, I can't remember. 163 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,360 Let me see, I have... 164 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,360 It's got a window. 165 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Well, there's so many, so many species of them, 166 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,360 but feather wing beetles are in the... 167 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Tildi family or subfamily of beetles. 168 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:01,360 And they're like, the majority of them are one millimeter or less in length, 169 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,360 so they're really tiny. 170 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Oh yeah. 171 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,360 Yeah. 172 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:12,360 And their name comes from their wings. 173 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,360 Their wings are actually really unique because they look like... 174 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Do you guys get dandelions where you are? 175 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,360 They're like weeds. 176 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,360 But their wings look like when the dandelion turns all white and the little seed pods, 177 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:31,360 they kind of float off and they have the little fluffy seed pods. 178 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,360 Their wings look just like that. 179 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:39,360 So they think that their wings are only used for like floating around, 180 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,360 not really flying, just kind of falling gracefully, if you will. 181 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,360 But they're pretty fascinating. 182 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,360 Let me see where... 183 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,360 Yeah, passive flotation, just like the seeds of a dandelion. 184 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,360 So they're distributed... 185 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,360 There's quite a few that do that though, isn't there? 186 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,360 Quite a few different kinds of insects that do that. 187 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:07,360 There's some spiders that transport themselves with the wind. 188 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Yeah, the golden orb weavers that actually this year like overtook 189 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:19,360 pretty much the entire East Coast and everybody was finding golden orb weavers everywhere. 190 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,360 They make those little zigzag webs. 191 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,360 And so yeah, a whole bunch of them just appeared on the East Coast 192 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,360 and we knew they were coming and stuff, but people were freaking out, of course. 193 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:38,360 Yeah, and it's amazing though if you actually see them taking off because they cast a web, 194 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,360 like a line up, don't they? Like flying a kite. 195 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,360 And off they go. 196 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,360 It's pretty amazing. 197 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,360 We were sitting in the garden last year when it was sunny 198 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,360 and it was just spiders that were riding for every round and it's been flowing around. 199 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Because I was through it as well. 200 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,360 Wow. 201 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,360 Some of our spiders. 202 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,360 How cool. 203 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:06,360 I mean, you've got actually, if you look, a lot of people don't realise 204 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,360 like how many of something they've got because they just say it's spider. 205 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,360 But if they look and walk down this species you've actually got in your country, 206 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,360 in your case in your state, which is pretty much the same thing. 207 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,360 I think it's the size-wise. 208 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,360 You know, you just be amazed. 209 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,360 It's like, it's like an isopods. 210 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:30,360 It's like, we've got 38 species of isopods that are recorded and there's something not sure about. 211 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,360 That's horrendous when you think about how small we are. 212 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,360 So it's the same in the big pools and the spiders, so many. 213 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,360 There's 660 species of spider in the UK. 214 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Oh, wow. 215 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,360 There was a lot, but I didn't know there was 660. 216 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,360 How does that make you feel? 217 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,360 Sorry? 218 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,360 How does that make you feel, Simon? 219 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,360 I know you're not a big fan, but you're getting better, aren't you, with your spiders? 220 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,360 Well, I'd mix and kill five because I'm okay with true spiders. 221 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,360 It's tarantulas, I don't like. 222 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:06,360 Okay. 223 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:09,360 So true spiders are fine. 224 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:11,360 Tarantulas, no thanks. 225 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:12,360 Simple as that, you know. 226 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:15,360 It's the fozy legs. 227 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:16,360 It is. 228 00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:18,360 I can't stop. 229 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:21,360 The difference between the crits, I don't know, it's just one of the things that you look at. 230 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:24,360 It just makes you feel uncomfortable. 231 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:28,360 It's not something that happens all the time, holding any of the book. 232 00:17:28,360 --> 00:17:30,360 You know, it's just tarantulas. 233 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:33,360 No, I don't think I'm hearing. 234 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,360 They're horrible. 235 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:43,360 So to go back on what we were saying about how, if we were to get all the animals together, a quarter of it would be beetles. 236 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:44,360 Beetles. 237 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:48,360 I'm using animals in a very general term, you know, just living. 238 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:49,360 Of course. 239 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:59,360 In the UK, there are over 4,000 species of beetle, which is quite mind-moggling. 240 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:06,360 I never really thought about it in that kind of sense. 241 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:09,360 I can name about four. 242 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:24,360 That's what I was trying to say about there's so many individuals, individual species, not individuals, like I'll tell you in the year or the night. 243 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:33,360 But individual species in small areas, you just can't believe it because you grow up thinking, oh, it's a beetle. 244 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:37,360 When you see something scamper across the floor, it's just a beetle. 245 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:38,360 It's just a beetle. 246 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:41,360 Yeah, but you don't really know what a beetle it is. 247 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:45,360 So I realized that you've seen 10 beetles that day and they're all different. 248 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:46,360 Yeah, right. 249 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:51,360 When you get close and inspect it, it's something else. 250 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:59,360 But when I was a kid and you lifted up a brick or something, you saw like a lot of ice supports and you'd be like, oh yeah, just woodlice that, took the brick. 251 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:00,360 Yeah. 252 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:06,360 But now I'm picking them up and going, oh, that's an eskisacellus, that's a scabur, that's the labis. 253 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:10,360 I think, you know, once you know, it's a different world. 254 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:12,360 So just absolutely. 255 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:22,360 You know, a little bit, you don't have to know everything, just a little bit is enough to peak an interest every time you lift up a log or a brick or whatever. 256 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:23,360 It's great. 257 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,360 So same with beetles. 258 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:26,360 Most definitely. 259 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:29,360 I'm fascinated. 260 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,360 I agree, Simon. 261 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:31,360 Absolutely. 262 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:35,360 Like you, that's, and that's kind of how it started for me with tarantulas. 263 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:36,360 I just learned about one. 264 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:38,360 And then that was it. 265 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,360 I was like, okay, I got to learn about all of them. 266 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:43,360 And now I'm starting to feel the same way about beetles. 267 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,360 And I was like that with isopods as well. 268 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:51,360 You know, it's just the more you learn about them, the more you start to get that fascination. 269 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,360 Beetles, the beetle world is just, it's unending. 270 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:59,360 Like there's so many species of beetle that, and they all do different things. 271 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,360 Like some of them are, are composters. 272 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,360 Some of them are pollinators. 273 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:07,360 And then they had, there's also predatory beetles. 274 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,360 Like, we know them. 275 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,360 Yeah, we know them here. 276 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:17,360 Yeah, yeah, we know them here, you know, as ladybugs, but ladybugs are actually predatory. 277 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:21,360 They eat small other small insects. 278 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:23,360 Like aphids. 279 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:24,360 Yep. 280 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,360 Moth larvae. 281 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:27,360 Let's see. 282 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:28,360 I've got all this. 283 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:32,360 They're used quite a lot in the agricultural industry as well. 284 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:35,360 So keeping down aphids and doing this. 285 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:39,360 There's people out there who breed ladybugs. 286 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,360 Oh yeah. 287 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:44,360 And yeah, they're not gentle with it either. 288 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:52,360 I think growing up as a child, you get to like the songs about ladybug, ladybug go away home and all this kind of stuff and everything. 289 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,360 All kids stuff like ladybug, ladybug, wellies. 290 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:58,360 And actually, they're masochists. 291 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:00,360 They're little sadists. 292 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,360 Yeah, absolutely. 293 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:07,360 Even ladybug larvae is so violent. 294 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:13,360 And so just from, just from, as soon as it actually from an egg, it's out looking, they're a bit like mantis. 295 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:16,360 It's just like looking for something to kill any. 296 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:17,360 Yes. 297 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,360 The second form. 298 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:21,360 I mean, there's also other books. 299 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:23,360 I mean, the sastic books. 300 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:27,360 You know, I mentioned sastic books and their beetles at the end of the day. 301 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:28,360 Are they beetles? 302 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:29,360 They're not. 303 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:33,360 They are beetles. They're in the order. 304 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:40,360 So they are, they are a bit, but they are a bit, which means it's a true book. 305 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:44,360 So they have to be sucking rather than mammals. 306 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:48,360 Oh, well, then I do have beetles because I have assassin bugs. 307 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:49,360 There you go. 308 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:50,360 Yeah. 309 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:51,360 Ha ha. 310 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,360 These are the sassy. 311 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:55,360 I absolutely love them. 312 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:56,360 Oh, they're amazing. 313 00:21:56,360 --> 00:22:06,360 They're so cool to watch because they're, they're, they're so social and it's kind of funny because when one assassin bug gets like a cricket, right? 314 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:07,360 Gets its prey. 315 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,360 The others get kind of lazy. 316 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:10,360 Don't want to find their own. 317 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:12,360 They try to steal that one. 318 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:15,360 So it's pretty fun to watch them do that. 319 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,360 I think, I think they're awesome. 320 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,360 Yeah. 321 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:22,360 Just to say nothing, all people do this as well. 322 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:27,360 They all got glue on the thing that I said the picture of got glue on the thing. 323 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:30,360 You can't get rid of them once they're on there. 324 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:41,360 I mean, I was actually watching some videos, Simon, about handling beetles and things and some people are saying using gloves and some people are saying not to. 325 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:45,360 And I think it's more a case of preference, isn't it? 326 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:53,360 So if you, if you want to get them off easily, like there was a, I don't know if you've come across beetles TV. I've only just came across him today. 327 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:54,360 Lovely. 328 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,360 Love you lad. 329 00:22:55,360 --> 00:23:00,360 And he has some things and he's talking about, you know, having it just so it's easy to move them. 330 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:03,360 So they're not obviously clinging on to you. 331 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,360 And you're trying to get them off. 332 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,360 They are extremely clingy. 333 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,360 I've been really, really clingy a lot. 334 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:10,360 Wow. 335 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,360 And that's still there. 336 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:14,360 It just doesn't care. 337 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:16,360 I mean, they really are sticky. 338 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:22,360 And if the biggest fear when you're taking them off is whether you're going to hurt them or break the task for us. 339 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:32,360 So it's like, it's better, it's better to sort of let them walk on to something else, you know, just encourage them by encouraging them at the optimum. 340 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:35,360 Well, I, I, something else to put them away. 341 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:43,360 I definitely wouldn't want to handle the assassin bugs because they do have quite a thing like they have been on. 342 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:47,360 They're not one you want to handle. 343 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:53,360 But, you know, we got DJC in the comments sort of like, you know, poking the cage. 344 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:58,360 Make sure you handle them. 345 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:00,360 Yeah, right. 346 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,360 Don't blame Tony for those. 347 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:08,360 But yeah, it's, I, I, I, I'm like a near pop assassin book and it's, it's not pleasant. 348 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,360 So it's not pleasant at all. 349 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,360 Okay. 350 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:19,360 Yeah, I think I would much rather handle a herculean beetle or, you know, even a scarab. 351 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:24,360 They're, they're not quite as, I don't think they're a scary and I don't think they really bite. 352 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:31,360 So I think that would be a much better handle than, than the assassin beetle or the assassin bugs for sure. 353 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:38,360 There's one thing I know it's sad people say, I don't keep people's but anybody who fights crickets keeps people's. 354 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:46,360 Or even super worms, the darkling beetles with the crickets and they're flesh eating beetles. 355 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:50,360 And that's, that's to read the death cricket. 356 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:52,360 So the crickets don't eat you. 357 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:55,360 So you do keep people's if you buy crickets. 358 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,360 Oh, wow. See, I didn't know that. 359 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:03,360 I don't need to do it in America, but we do it here with little flesh eating beetles. 360 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,360 That's amazing. 361 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:13,360 Well, we have little, what do we call them banded crickets and I don't know if those are, they're probably the same. Yeah. 362 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,360 Yeah, the yellow house cricket. 363 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,360 Uh huh. Yeah, we have. 364 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:25,360 So sometimes what we'll definitely, we definitely get it in the UK is you'll get the larvae in the cricket boxes. 365 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:29,360 The little fuzzy, the little fuzzy things. 366 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,360 I've forgotten the name of them. 367 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,360 Oh, wow. 368 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:40,360 They've got, they've got a funny little name and everyone like you can, you'll see people coming new into the hobby. 369 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:46,360 They're like, I've got crickets and they're invested with these things and it's actually is part of the breeding project. 370 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:50,360 Like it's, it keeps that waist down as Simon says. 371 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:55,360 The crickets, the crickets believe the dead crickets. 372 00:25:55,360 --> 00:26:01,360 And if there's any parasites in the dead crickets, it's posted onto the live crickets and then onto your animal. 373 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,360 Wow. 374 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:10,360 So the idea is for the fleshy beetles to actually the larva to eat those dead crickets to keep your other crickets pure. 375 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,360 And that's the idea behind it. 376 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:13,360 That's pretty amazing. 377 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,360 Also, it stops them stinky. 378 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:16,360 Yeah. 379 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:19,360 Is that why they're so smelly? 380 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,360 They are so, I hate the smell. 381 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:22,360 Yeah. 382 00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:25,360 It's their bodies smell, basically. 383 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:26,360 Amazing. 384 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:30,360 Crickets aren't the nicest feeders to have. 385 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:31,360 No, certainly not. 386 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:36,360 I love super worms for the fact that they don't smell and they eat something that's super cheap. 387 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:48,360 They eat, you can keep them in the like dried oats, you know, just regular oats and they eat that and that's, they can live in it and they eat it and they're perfect. 388 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:59,360 I just had this conversation on Instagram with Shady about she keeps her super worms in oats and she's invested with grain mites. 389 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:00,360 Oh, no. 390 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:06,360 I just advise her never to put your super worms in oats or anything else. 391 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:14,360 Put them in substrate and give them, you know, give them something proper to eat, like a bit of fruit or something. 392 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:15,360 Okay. 393 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:21,360 You don't get the grain mites because she's probably not watching this because she's too busy. 394 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,360 She is. 395 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:30,360 She's like, oh, I'm going to put the beaker rabbit. 396 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:31,360 That may be a chunk. 397 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,360 It flew off my finger. 398 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,360 Oh, wow. 399 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:40,360 When it puts its wings, it puts it on my hand there. 400 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:42,360 It scared me. 401 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,360 Yeah. 402 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:50,360 It's so funny though, like you mentioned that how ladybugs are so vicious because when we're, when I was a kid, like they were kind of my favorite little bug. 403 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:56,360 And that's, that's the one that we would have and we thought they were very lucky when they would land on us. 404 00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:08,360 And like, we also used to say that the number of spots that they have, the little black spots on their shelf is like the number of wishes that you can wish for when you blow them away, you know, and they fly off. 405 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:16,360 And there's actually quite a bit of folklore around ladybugs and other interesting beetles. 406 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:20,360 Matt, you were mentioning the scarabs earlier. 407 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:29,360 Oh, I was just sort of discussing, we were chatting in the before the stream, just around how beetles beetles are cool. 408 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,360 But actually they have such an impact on different cultures. 409 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:40,360 And I think the most, the most known one is the is the scarab. 410 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:52,360 So, you know, from ancient Egypt, and, you know, the scarabs for signs of like good fortune and fertility immortality. 411 00:28:52,360 --> 00:29:02,360 So that's why you would see quite a lot of them depicted within tombs, arrows and in the jewelry and stuff. 412 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:14,360 And I believe they even found, they found scarabs, the like gold encrusted scarabs in, I believe it was Ramesses, Ramesses actual tomb. 413 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,360 The Egyptians were brilliant at taxidermy. 414 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,360 You know, think about the mummies, they've been, they were preserved really well, weren't they? 415 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Amazingly. 416 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:32,360 They, the Egyptians, you know, dry, arid place where they're able to do all of that. 417 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:44,360 But also, you know, if we think about it as well, it is like they, the Beatles life cycle is sort of showing like that birth and back then as well. 418 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:53,360 So it'd be birth, the grub from the egg, then they would assume that it dies going into the cocoon and then rebirth again. 419 00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:04,360 So it's actually a really interesting, if you delve into like the cultural things and I hold on there, Simon, I'll pop that up on the big screen for you. 420 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Oh yeah. 421 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,360 That's from Egypt itself. 422 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,360 That's from the, that's beautiful. 423 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:21,360 So that's the scarab, that's a real one. 424 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Wow, is it petrified? 425 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,360 I have no idea. 426 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:31,360 When, when, when you mentioned it, Neliana went in and came back with it. 427 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,360 So I don't know anything about it. 428 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,360 I just remember that. 429 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,360 That's one thing. 430 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,360 I love that. 431 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,360 So yeah, that's, that's from a, a tomb, I guess. 432 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:49,360 And if anyone remembers one of the best films ever made, which is the mummy, out there, it is one of the best films ever made. 433 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,360 I agree with it. 434 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:58,360 And the Beatles get in there and start going up like he's prying them out of, out of the window underneath their skin. 435 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:17,360 I do believe that I've seen a couple of them actually in a, at the museum here in Denver, we have an Egyptian wing that's just permanent. 436 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,360 And so they do have a couple of scarabs that are on display there. 437 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,360 It's pretty fast. 438 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,360 It's pretty cool. 439 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:31,360 So they're in little coffins, same with mantis, they did mantis as well with the scarabs. 440 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360 So there's like little mummy, mummy fire ponds. 441 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,360 Wow. 442 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:50,360 More survival to people when it goes up the mantis, but the only thing you could get the mantis impression because the, the arms, the raptors still existed in there and the, the prenotum there, the shield of the back of their head. 443 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,360 Wow. 444 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,360 And just Googling it now, it looks amazing. 445 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,360 The little coffin. 446 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,360 It's incredible. 447 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,360 Yeah, they are really, really pretty. 448 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,360 He's sucking rubbish. 449 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,360 I'm going to do it. 450 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,360 No, I want, I wanted to see it. 451 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:11,360 So I remember, I remember seeing it back in the day in an old school trip, going to the Egyptian thing. 452 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,360 And I was like, yes. 453 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:20,360 And yeah, they put them in like, if anyone gets some time, anyone that's listening, have a little, they made little coffins, little socks. 454 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Or little coffins, little sarcophagi for the Beatles to put them in. 455 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,360 Yeah. 456 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Well, I think that's really interesting too, because I believe scarabs are part of the composting. 457 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,360 Like that's what they do is they're composters. 458 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:42,360 So they, they break down, you know, like leaf litter and dead, dead things or dead organic things. 459 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:50,360 They eat basically like the waste that's left behind, and that's part of what makes them so useful. 460 00:32:50,360 --> 00:33:08,360 If you will, like agriculturally, they, they help to keep away infestations of, of pest insects that would, that would harm your grain or your, you know, your product, your product that you're trying to grow your agriculture. 461 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:18,360 And so it's really fascinating how Beatles, like they have such a really large part in, in composting. 462 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:26,360 Well, I've actually got a big picture on my screen at the moment of a dung beetle and referring, referring back to Simon's video. 463 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,360 So if anyone's watching, go check it out. 464 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,360 I think it was 10 facts about Beatles on the Mantis Garden. 465 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,360 Very cool. 466 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:43,360 And one of them was, there was a brilliant little clip of some stag beet, some dung beetles going around, bearing it all up. 467 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,360 But I didn't know that they buried it. 468 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,360 So that's something I learned today. 469 00:33:49,360 --> 00:34:02,360 So if we think about that waste collection and everything going on this, and for people that have listened to this podcast before and new people, you sort of start to find out that actually, 470 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:13,360 this little micro universe of beetles and insects and inverts, how much they actually put back into the full ecosystem. 471 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,360 Because it's actually really interesting to sort of see. 472 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:25,360 And what was it, Simon, was it the stag beetles are technically the strongest animal on the planet? 473 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:32,360 No, the strongest, the strongest pound for pound would be the dung beetle. 474 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,360 Oh, sorry, the dung beetle. 475 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,360 Sorry. 476 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,360 Yeah, the dung beetle. 477 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,360 Although the stag beetle is a type of dung beetle. 478 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,360 Is it? 479 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,360 I believe. 480 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,360 I believe so. 481 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:48,360 Well, the stag beetle is actually, actually, it's sap from which tree is it? 482 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,360 There's one of the trees. 483 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,360 There's one tree they actually like, but you need the sap of the tree. 484 00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:05,360 So when we think about like the dietary things of them, that's why we give a lot of like these fruit pots and the sugary things to beetles. 485 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,360 Yeah, they've got that sort of stuff. 486 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,360 I mean, but there's a lot of people see next. 487 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:21,360 I mean, there's one people that is responsible for pollinating all the lily pads, whatever they call the kind of what they call, because I don't do plants. 488 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,360 Oh, let me look. 489 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:34,360 In the Amazon, there's one people at night, they close up and catch the beetles and the beetles run around all night, get covered in foam and they weren't showing the morning. 490 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,360 They go to the next one because they don't. 491 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,360 And it is just that probably just that one beetle that does that? 492 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,360 Yeah, it's that one beetle. 493 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,360 Yeah, yeah, I have no idea what name it is because I wasn't expecting to. 494 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,360 You know what, I didn't, I don't even have that in my notes and I'm so sorry. 495 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,360 Well, you should be sorry, Lea, because you know everything. 496 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,360 I failed. I failed at research. I failed. 497 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,360 What are you on about? I watched a couple of YouTube videos. 498 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,360 I bet you got the ironclad people in there. 499 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,360 Yeah, maybe the ironclad. 500 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,360 Oh, that sounded amazing. 501 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,360 Fantastic. 502 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:37,360 Just, just, this is from my mind, the fact, I think it worked out, it was something like three bosses they could carry, no, if it was human, they could carry the equivalent of like three bosses on the back. 503 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,360 I think it wasn't too many are, you know, I wouldn't squot them. 504 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,360 It'd be like, well, your backpack, sort of. 505 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:53,360 I think a lot of research on those, but I forgot most of it. 506 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,360 It happened. 507 00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:02,360 Happy to know that I watched your videos today, Simon, and I have all of this information fresh in my head. 508 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:28,360 I think what you were saying as well, or part of what you touched on is how that they are observing those ironclad Beatles and thinking about how they can transfer their exoskeleton sort of makeup, how it's put together around crafting airplanes and other things that would have to put up with a lot of stress. 509 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:38,360 So like looking at exoskeleton and the, the, the caitin on that people rather than going like, like you've got ground people with caitin on grubs in one direction, the following. 510 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:47,360 Whereas in the ironclad, it sort of weaves like a, you know, like a lattice pattern, like a lattice. 511 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:58,360 Which is stronger than it covers that over and over and over and becomes really strong. I mean, you could do it yourself to get organza because I can believe so I could get organza mesh. 512 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,360 And keep piling on top of each other in different directions. 513 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,360 If it comes to Richard, eventually it becomes rigid and that's the same idea. 514 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,360 You know, if you get a lot of work, anything and do it. 515 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:20,360 And you know, you've got a lot of old black jackets, bulletproof jacket, shall we say. They used to be made out of glass and rubber. 516 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:29,360 I was at work and it's simply because the glass was countered into the rubber and then put on the opposite direction on top of it. 517 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,360 And it's exactly the same way that the caitin shell works on the ironclad people. 518 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:40,360 I can't remember the, you should know this if you've watched it, but it's got a really cool name, the ironclad people. 519 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,360 It's got a really, you said you'd watch this. 520 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:52,360 I was in fraud by the amazing information that I must have missed the name. 521 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:58,360 It's called something like the diabolic, I don't know, diabolic. 522 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,360 Diabolic colour. 523 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,360 This part's very. 524 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:07,360 Diabolic colour. Something like that. Diabolic colour. 525 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,360 Diabolic colour. 526 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,360 Diabolic colour. That's it. 527 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,360 It's got a really cool name. I don't remember about it. 528 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,360 Fantastic people. 529 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,360 Glad you guys worked that out. 530 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,360 And it looks like a tank. 531 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:32,360 So it looks like someone has welded just loads and loads and loads of bits of metal to it. 532 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,360 It is an impressive looking thing. 533 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,360 For old people, it looks like the A team have made it. 534 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,360 Yeah. 535 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,360 Basically. 536 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,360 Most of it, well it does look a bit like a bit of a moving rock really, doesn't it? 537 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,360 It does, yeah. 538 00:39:50,360 --> 00:40:00,360 If I remember rightly, I might be wrong for this, but if I remember rightly, that is related to the blue death-faning people. 539 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,360 Oh yes they are. 540 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:10,360 If you're in Colorado or Arizona or California desert, they have them all over the place, don't they? 541 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,360 The bar, etc. 542 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,360 There's loads of them, you can just pick them up. 543 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,360 Yep, they're all over. 544 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,360 I think, but it's been a while and there's a lot of people, so I might have got that wrong. 545 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,360 So I don't know if you're sure, but I think they are. 546 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,360 And the blue death-faning people is quite a popular people here. 547 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,360 It is. Same here. 548 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,360 Yeah. 549 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,360 They're quite excited. 550 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,360 Sorry, go on. 551 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,360 No, they're just super cute. 552 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:41,360 I want some so badly and I don't have any, but I think they're pretty amazing. 553 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,360 They're very good at cohabiting as well, Leah. 554 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,360 Yes. 555 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:54,360 So you can have, so like maybe an Arizona-based scorpion as well in with it. 556 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,360 And yeah, you can definitely have like a little setup. 557 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,360 Absolutely. 558 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,360 Yeah. 559 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,360 Yeah. 560 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:07,360 But I do believe that the, the, there's little black ones that look just like the blue death-faning beetles. 561 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,360 Yeah, they are, they're cousins. 562 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,360 They are related. 563 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,360 Absolutely. 564 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,360 And also, also. 565 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:27,360 And ground beetles are really cool because they're actually really important for the biological control of insect pests for agricultural farms and such. 566 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:41,360 So a lot of farmers do like harvest them and keep them around just to keep those pest insects away and gardeners and stuff, especially if they don't want to use pesticides, which is actually really, really bad on the environment. 567 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:50,360 Because, you know, you're not just killing those pest insects, but you're also going to be killing the beneficial ones that are doing that same job. 568 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,360 So, but yeah, they, they also eat weeds. 569 00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:04,360 The, like dandelions, those, those weeds and those invasive plants that are destructive to weeds in air quality. 570 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,360 Right. 571 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,360 Because we don't, they do serve some sort of purpose. 572 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,360 We're just, we still haven't researched entirely about weeds and what they do. 573 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,360 But the ground beetles actually help to control that population as well. 574 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,360 So they, they, when they're larva burrow underground. 575 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:34,360 And so as they're in that stage, they eat the seed pods that are dropped from weeds and then they keep them from, from basically growing and investing the whole, the whole farm. 576 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,360 Yeah, so you're doing this as well. 577 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,360 Yep. 578 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,360 Yep. 579 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,360 It's pretty amazing. 580 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,360 Which, which, because they can't. 581 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,360 Can, can, can we run some beetles? 582 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,360 Can I play new for something? 583 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,360 Sure. 584 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,360 Okay. 585 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,360 The Colorado Beetle. 586 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,360 Okay. 587 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,360 The Colorado Beetle is like a, like a devil amongst them. 588 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,360 That's one of the ones that go life, isn't it? 589 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,360 I believe so. 590 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,360 Yeah. 591 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:08,360 We do, we have a couple of invasive beetle species right now that are just wreaking havoc all over the state. 592 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:16,360 And actually right now, one of, one of those is the Japanese tree beetle, which obviously they don't really belong here. 593 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:25,360 They're invasive and they're actually just, they're wreaking havoc up on the, in the evergreens, the mountains, and it's just, it's been kind of disastrous. 594 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:32,360 So anytime we get a wildfire, there's plenty, plenty of food for the fire to just devour. 595 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,360 But again, fire kind of works in nature as well. 596 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:47,360 And it helps to deposit those phosphates and, you know, the ashes from the trees that are burned actually deposit into the soil and then the forest grows back even thicker and bigger. 597 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,360 So. 598 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,360 Who knows. 599 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,360 The use just go like that. 600 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,360 It's, it's natural. 601 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,360 Yeah. 602 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,360 Yeah. 603 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,360 We found out this week, because I think it's really cool. 604 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:05,360 In the noons this week, over here, we have a quickly leaf beetles have just appeared in the UK for the first time. 605 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,360 Oh, wow. 606 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,360 And that's this week, which is cool. 607 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,360 So they're worth having a look at. 608 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,360 Oh, five millimeters, which is, which is pretty small. 609 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,360 That's about part of an inch. 610 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,360 Right. 611 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,360 But they're really cute little prickly, awful little slimes and stuff. 612 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,360 I always get excited when something new like that's like a piece here. 613 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,360 But it also proves climate changes is moving things. 614 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,360 Yes. 615 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:41,360 Because we've over the last 10 years, I've say, I've seen a lot of inverts come to the UK that we've never seen before. 616 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,360 I've been beetles, mint beetles is one of them. 617 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,360 And that's that we see them every year now. 618 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,360 Wow. 619 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,360 Loads of them. 620 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,360 I mean, I used to see them. 621 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,360 Yeah. 622 00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:01,360 Yeah, I do agree that climate change is definitely bringing a lot of different species of insect to places that are not. 623 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:08,360 You know, it's definitely having a very interesting effect on the ecosystems. 624 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:17,360 So it's a bit weird for us because we just been a small island because like, let's not forget if we are a tiny island really. 625 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,360 And to change so much and get so many different things in, it's got to go over a sea to get to us. 626 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,360 And yet it's we're still managing to get to the bottom of it. 627 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,360 And yet it's we're still managing to see this coming in. 628 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,360 Only last year they found mantis in the south of England. 629 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,360 We've never had mantis in this country at all ever. 630 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:48,360 And last year we was finding the European mantis in in gardens down south, which obviously to me is very exciting. 631 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,360 But not enough for me to move down south. 632 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,360 No. 633 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,360 No, no. 634 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,360 You might get a nosebleed Simon. 635 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,360 I definitely would get a nosebleed. 636 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,360 I can't fix that anyway. 637 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,360 But yeah. 638 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:10,360 But but also it's sort of like it sort of begs the question because you think so some of these creatures that they're not going to be flying over. 639 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,360 Over that vast distance. 640 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,360 And they've probably been coming to this country for years. 641 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,360 But like you said, Simon, I agree with like the. 642 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,360 Yeah. 643 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,360 I agree with the whole like climate change and the climate change. 644 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,360 And so they would have come over and in the winter and they would have died. 645 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,360 But now we're getting more warmer winters. 646 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,360 But definitely becoming more. 647 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,360 Absolutely. 648 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:41,360 Coming over on the plant and the food and stuff like that. 649 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,360 That's not the point of coming over. 650 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,360 It's the fascination of fact that they're staying. 651 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,360 Yeah. 652 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,360 They never used to be able to survive when I was a kid winter was bloody cold. 653 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,360 But it was this deep in snow. 654 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,360 I've seen that since the 80s 1980s. 655 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,360 Yeah. 656 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,360 I was going to say I haven't I haven't seen it. 657 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,360 Yeah. 658 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,360 Fair enough. 659 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,360 Fair enough. 660 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,360 Oh, I didn't mean that. 661 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,360 Yeah. 662 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,360 Yeah. 663 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,360 Yeah. 664 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,360 Yeah. 665 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,360 No, it's the same in Colorado. 666 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:21,360 Like we're seeing we're seeing species here that normally don't drive here because it is so cold in the winter and we do get so much snow. 667 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:27,360 But these recent years, I mean, we haven't had a lot of snow. 668 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:44,360 And, you know, one thing that I that struck me is very strange is in May or like early June of like 2019, I believe the snow caps on the mountain tops were just they were already melted. 669 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:52,360 And the the mount types were bare and I'm going this is that's not normal because usually they're white capped all year round. 670 00:47:52,360 --> 00:48:02,360 You know, like maybe they're not so white capped in like late July, August, but that one year they were they were gone by by mid June. 671 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,360 It freaked me out. 672 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:15,360 And it is proof that everybody sees it. 673 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,360 Yeah. 674 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,360 No, it's actually like we're involved in nature on a daily basis. 675 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,360 We can see the change. 676 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,360 We can document the change. 677 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,360 We know what's living longer. 678 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,360 And all the rest of the space is just fascinating. 679 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,360 It really is. 680 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,360 Yeah. 681 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,360 I mean, I don't get when it happens. 682 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,360 So it doesn't really matter. 683 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,360 I really do. 684 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,360 I really do care. 685 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:50,360 That's one of the things that is close to my heart is yeah, the changes and what's going to happen and how dry some places are going to get, you know, where others are going to get. 686 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,360 I mean, we're talking about what's to say in 100 years. 687 00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,360 We're going to be going more towards the Mediterranean sort of weather here. 688 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,360 And that's there. 689 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:11,360 I think, you know, it's sort of like on that kind of topic last year was really hot in the UK. 690 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,360 It was really hot this time of year. 691 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:22,360 At this current moment in time, there's a thunderstorm happening outside and the wind's coming in and the wind and rain is coming in sideways and it shouldn't be at this time of year. 692 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,360 So I just, yeah, it's very odd. 693 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,360 It is very odd. 694 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,360 Hey, we're in England. 695 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,360 So we're used to the rain. 696 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,360 I never put my rain coat away. 697 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,360 It's the UK. 698 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:44,360 So I thought you could take your coat off till it was eight. 699 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,360 Oh, you go eventually. 700 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,360 Yeah. 701 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:59,360 No, I agree though. I mean, even here in Colorado, like we usually have, you know, winter coats for the winter, but these past few winters and stuff, it hasn't really been that cold. 702 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:04,360 I mean, 30s felt more like in the 50s. 703 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:11,360 And so we'd go, I'd have a hoodie, basically just a hoodie, like all year round and was fine. 704 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,360 No, no, you know, frostbite, no, none of that. 705 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,360 So it's just, it's pretty odd. 706 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:25,360 I know Ontario, Canada was hit in, what was it, 105 degrees, which is insane for that region of the world. 707 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,360 Like that's, it's unheard of. 708 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:39,360 So it definitely is taking a toll on, on, you know, insects and the creatures in the world for sure, you know, so. 709 00:50:39,360 --> 00:51:00,360 But it really is. And I supposedly, that's like something that's really good about this hobby is that we can do our best, can't we, as invert keepers to try and preserve, preserve these, these insects that are, they are going extinct at a rapid rate, really, aren't they? 710 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,360 Yeah. 711 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:10,360 So it's about sort of keeping them alive, keeping them preserved, whichever, whichever way you sort of deem, deem well. 712 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:16,360 But when we think about temperatures as well, something I learned today was the sun beetles Simon. 713 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,360 Excuse my layman name, I haven't done my research on them. 714 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,360 Pashnoda najamata. 715 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,360 Say that again, sorry. 716 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,360 Pashnoda najamata. 717 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,360 So the Pashnoda najamata I'd researched. 718 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,360 I was close. 719 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:52,360 So, so I was doing a little bit of research on them to just just like a little bit and people, a lot of people are saying about keeping them to help them thrive is having heat mats to keep yours in a warm, I suppose your rooms heated isn't it so. 720 00:51:52,360 --> 00:52:06,360 But if, if for instance, people didn't have an amazing mantis room, or a bug room, would you be recommending a little heat mat maybe on the side? 721 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:13,360 Well, for Leah, I'm going to say, as long as it doesn't drop below 65, this seems to be fine. 722 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,360 Yeah. 723 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:25,360 Room temperature is fine for absolutely fine. Yeah, it's a bit longer basically. 724 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:34,360 I think that's one of the big things as well isn't it when we start introducing heat, it speeds up metabolism growth cycles and. 725 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:47,360 It's just like to totally jump topic, but it's on the same topic. And because we were talking about you were not talking about the Beatles giving you like a little bit of a nip. 726 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:54,360 Every now and again, something I have seen and I saw it from Bill's incredible inverts. 727 00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:01,360 So the Beatles are generally, you know, it's a little nip and stuff, but the grubs. 728 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,360 They've got some mandibles on them, haven't they? 729 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,360 Mandibles on them to really clamp on. 730 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:20,360 They can give you a nasty, the bigger the bigger groups like the Staggs and the OXE or at least Bill, they can really grab on you and give you a really nasty like. 731 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,360 Wow. 732 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,360 Really painful. 733 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:30,360 I suppose they need it to go through all the detritus and wood and everything. 734 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,360 Yeah, these guys eat wood, they can grow into wood. 735 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,360 So your fingers, nothing, you know, just. 736 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,360 Wow. 737 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,360 It's so soft compared to wood like it's. 738 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,360 Yeah. 739 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,360 So easy. 740 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,360 Yeah, which is pretty amazing. 741 00:53:49,360 --> 00:54:00,360 Very lucky that like the mantis and everything when they bite you, they'll start to have a chew and then go, I don't eat this. 742 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:06,360 Yeah. 743 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,360 I was expecting someone else to say something. 744 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,360 No, no, no, no, no, no, I thought you were about to say something. 745 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:29,360 So like, yeah, they will go, oh yeah, we're not going to eat this doing this, but whereas a grub, they'll just they they've got to put on that weight and if we think about like their their life cycle, they're in the dark and they're just chomping, they're constantly eating 746 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,360 aren't they like chomping away and doing that. 747 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:40,360 They like the dark moist places full of fungus and mold and leaf litter and stuff. 748 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,360 So yeah, I get that. 749 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,360 I mean, that's the best thing to do when you've got beetles. 750 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,360 I mean, you know, it's the second that's going to go into this. 751 00:54:49,360 --> 00:55:03,360 It's like, I think people go up so get these, you know, the four hours, parts, the double parts, just fill up with substrate, which will have leaf litter in it, broken soft wood in it. 752 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,360 And then pop the top on and wait for the beetles to come out. 753 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,360 That's that's it. 754 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,360 Wow. 755 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,360 Wow. 756 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,360 Just the substrate basically. 757 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,360 It just takes the longest. 758 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:21,360 I think it depends which which beet will you have as well because some of them you need to put me like the big. 759 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:34,360 Oh, yeah, I've seen like the Hercules beetles when people are keeping the grubs they'll have them in like jam jam jar kind of sure bigger containers. 760 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,360 Oh, sweet jars behind you, Simon. 761 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,360 I've seen people keeping them in the in the sweet jars. 762 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,360 That's pretty cool. 763 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,360 Yeah, I think that's a bit overkill. 764 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,360 Yeah. 765 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:54,360 Like, you know, like the fruit fly pops. 766 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,360 Yeah. 767 00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:07,360 And you're going for that because you want something to stop any mikes going in or you didn't have to go in there because once they cocoon, if you see them when they cocoon, you see the beetles cocoon. 768 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,360 Yeah. 769 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,360 They just produce it themselves because it's like, it's really solid. 770 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,360 And they'll break out with that. 771 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:19,360 But once they're in that cocoon, they're a bit of a stage where they can get lunched on. 772 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,360 So let's keep away from everything. 773 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,360 Get out. 774 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,360 Get out. 775 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,360 So I don't fancy putting anything there. 776 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,360 Just a bit too big. 777 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,360 Yes, it's like a waste of space. 778 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,360 I mean, I've got to think about that obviously because I'm selling stuff. 779 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,360 So I've got to think about how much space something takes up. 780 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,360 If you know what I mean, I've got to go. 781 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,360 Sure. 782 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:51,360 The minimum that's acceptable for the book basically is what I would go for. 783 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:58,360 If you're going to keep them anyway, you don't want a great big tub like, you know, with what beetle in it, 784 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,360 won't grow up in it. 785 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,360 So no, no, no. 786 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:11,360 No, that makes total sense because then, you know, you're just allowing for more space for them to be susceptible to those predatory mites or, you know, the fruit flies, all that stuff that makes sense. 787 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,360 Thank you, Simon. 788 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:20,360 Not only that, you've got like, let's say you put in your, let's say you've got a couple of grubs in one of these. 789 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,360 But they don't come out for six months. 790 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,360 You've got to put this somewhere for six months. 791 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,360 Right. 792 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,360 You know, it doesn't make any sense, does it? 793 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,360 You know, tricking over all the people of the place if you've got 10 of them. 794 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:40,360 So, you know, it's easier just go a little fruit fly pot like that. 795 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,360 Put stack of vinaigrette somewhere and you find it six months later, go check it. 796 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,360 Go see if there's a beetle there or not. 797 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,360 Yeah. 798 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:54,360 And some of them can take years, can't they, in the stage. 799 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,360 Wow. 800 00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:06,360 So, I suppose we're coming to the end of the podcast about beetles and many other different topics. 801 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,360 It was good. 802 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,360 We did good. 803 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,360 I really enjoyed it. 804 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:16,360 It was a nice chat about all the different sorts of aspects and things. 805 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,360 So, yeah, really enjoyed that. 806 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:24,360 So, yeah, guys, thanks for listening, watching. 807 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,360 Leah, have you got a shameless plug or anything you want to? 808 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,360 I had one and it was really good. 809 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,360 Well, Shucks. 810 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,360 Simon and I had the interview. 811 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,360 So, there's that one. 812 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,360 So, check that one out. 813 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,360 Over on Mantis Garden. 814 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,360 Yes, on Mantis Garden. 815 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,360 And then, of course, Tarantula. 816 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,360 You can find me on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. 817 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,360 I'm pretty much all over the place. 818 00:58:53,360 --> 00:59:01,360 And this week I'll be doing a post-leth area of Regalis and talking about that species and showing you how I rehoused mine. 819 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,360 So, there you go. 820 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,360 Yeah, no, definitely looking forward to that one. 821 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,360 Thank you. 822 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:13,360 Simon, have you got a shameless plug or anything you want for where can people find you? 823 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,360 Over in your house. 824 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,360 My channel. 825 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:25,360 On Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Reddit, the other ones. 826 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,360 Everywhere, just the Mantis Garden and everywhere. 827 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,360 So, you know, wherever. 828 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,360 Not really that forced, mate. 829 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,360 I know. 830 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:43,360 I know you're not a fan of the stuff that you mentioned, Jaron. 831 00:59:43,360 --> 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