WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.200 You are now listening to Cryptid Cocktail Party. 00:00:40.850 --> 00:00:42.950 Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of 00:00:42.950 --> 00:00:44.490 Crypto Cocktail Party, a show where we have a 00:00:44.490 --> 00:00:46.689 few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into 00:00:46.689 --> 00:00:49.149 the unknown. I am your very sick host, Dave, 00:00:49.429 --> 00:00:52.070 joined as always by my wonderful also host, Sarge. 00:00:52.109 --> 00:00:54.450 What's going on, man? Hey, everybody. I am not 00:00:54.450 --> 00:00:57.789 very sick, but it's probably going to happen 00:00:57.789 --> 00:01:02.710 soon. Why do you say that? Illness just runs 00:01:02.710 --> 00:01:06.769 rampant in the North. Yeah, well, luckily, well, 00:01:06.870 --> 00:01:08.489 that is true. I just came back from New Hampshire 00:01:08.489 --> 00:01:12.340 not too long ago. See? And then I got sick. Exactly. 00:01:12.579 --> 00:01:15.640 Yeah. I don't think that has anything to do with 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:17.939 it. I think it's because I work in a warehouse 00:01:17.939 --> 00:01:22.140 with a bunch of unclean people, probably. I mean, 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:23.780 I'm not saying... Just drooling mouth breathers 00:01:23.780 --> 00:01:25.659 that just cough with their mouth open like a 00:01:25.659 --> 00:01:31.280 toddler. Kind of, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:33.480 I don't know. Just kidding. I'm kidding. Yeah. 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:35.579 I don't know. I just fucking Thursday woke up, 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:37.719 wasn't feeling too hot, and then the next... 00:01:38.530 --> 00:01:40.909 three consecutive days just seems to be getting 00:01:40.909 --> 00:01:42.670 worse and worse. I thought it was worse and worse. 00:01:43.069 --> 00:01:46.230 Yeah. That's how most illnesses go. Yeah. But 00:01:46.230 --> 00:01:47.930 you start out and you're like, Oh, maybe it's 00:01:47.930 --> 00:01:49.310 allergies. And then you wake up the next day 00:01:49.310 --> 00:01:51.269 and you're like, maybe it's death. That's exactly 00:01:51.269 --> 00:01:55.170 what I thought. I was like, Oh, well maybe, you 00:01:55.170 --> 00:01:56.590 know, I'm getting older. My allergies change. 00:01:56.689 --> 00:01:58.950 I don't normally have like spring, summer allergies. 00:01:59.730 --> 00:02:02.689 Maybe my body changed and that's what this is. 00:02:02.750 --> 00:02:04.430 And then it just kept getting worse and worse. 00:02:04.510 --> 00:02:06.689 I was like, nah, I think this is the plague. 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.840 Yeah, I might be dying. Oh, good. But thank God 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:13.819 for Dayquil and Nyquil. I mean, fucking godsends. 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.919 I probably wouldn't be alive right now to do 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:20.180 this episode if I wasn't chock full of cold medicine. 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:23.659 So who knows? Maybe it'll make the episode more 00:02:23.659 --> 00:02:26.520 fun. Maybe I'll ramble through and lose my... 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:28.080 I'm probably going to lose my place a bunch of 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.139 times because trying to focus on anything is 00:02:30.139 --> 00:02:32.460 a nightmare right now. Yeah. I mean, if you take 00:02:32.460 --> 00:02:35.409 Dayquil and Nyquil together... That would be 00:02:35.409 --> 00:02:36.990 a weird experience. I didn't take it simultaneously. 00:02:37.949 --> 00:02:40.169 I'm just saying if you did, you would look like 00:02:40.169 --> 00:02:42.729 Ken Paxton's eyes. Like one's closed, the other 00:02:42.729 --> 00:02:45.210 one's open. You never know where he's headed. 00:02:45.430 --> 00:02:47.030 They'd probably cancel each other out, I think. 00:02:47.129 --> 00:02:49.449 I don't know. Maybe. It'd be like taking Benadryl 00:02:49.449 --> 00:02:51.770 and Sudafed. The effects would be the same, but 00:02:51.770 --> 00:02:54.009 one's like an upper, one's going to knock you 00:02:54.009 --> 00:02:55.590 out. I feel like it would just level you. It's 00:02:55.590 --> 00:02:57.889 like when you drink and then do a bunch of cocaine. 00:02:58.090 --> 00:03:00.050 It's like you're just level at that point. Yeah, 00:03:00.090 --> 00:03:04.659 you're just normal. Yeah. Anyways. How are you? 00:03:05.379 --> 00:03:08.759 I'm good. I marched in pride yesterday with my 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:12.860 daughter. How was that? It was a good time. Everybody 00:03:12.860 --> 00:03:16.419 was very welcoming and friendly and amazing as 00:03:16.419 --> 00:03:19.080 usual. And surprisingly, with all the drag queens, 00:03:19.340 --> 00:03:21.360 there was zero crime being committed, which I 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:23.759 was confused about based on the news that I had 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:28.280 been following from conservative spaces. Strange. 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:32.539 Yeah, that is kind of crazy. I would assume any 00:03:32.539 --> 00:03:35.879 pride, you know, would just be riddled with crime, 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.819 criminals. Yeah, you would expect children to 00:03:38.819 --> 00:03:41.759 just be sacrificed on giant altars to RuPaul, 00:03:41.979 --> 00:03:43.860 but none of that was happening while I was there. 00:03:44.020 --> 00:03:46.240 It was just a bunch of people having a really 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.259 good time dancing to very fun music. That's crazy. 00:03:49.419 --> 00:03:52.159 That's not what I would have expected to happen. 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:55.639 Yeah. Based off of all the news coming out recently. 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:58.340 Yeah, of course. Over the past five to ten years. 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.610 I don't know. Also, I'm going to make a video 00:04:01.610 --> 00:04:03.830 about this at some point, but I do want to put 00:04:03.830 --> 00:04:06.729 this little public service announcement out there. 00:04:07.550 --> 00:04:09.710 There's a lot of people saying that June is Veterans 00:04:09.710 --> 00:04:13.330 Appreciation Month. No, it's not. You fucking 00:04:13.330 --> 00:04:16.050 dildos. Sorry, you're responding to bots, dude. 00:04:16.230 --> 00:04:19.449 No one's saying that. No, I got it. Because people 00:04:19.449 --> 00:04:22.569 are adopting it. And if you actually gave a fuck 00:04:22.569 --> 00:04:24.689 about veterans, you'd know our month is in November. 00:04:24.750 --> 00:04:27.430 You know, the month with Veterans Day in it. 00:04:27.610 --> 00:04:31.269 I think that's Pilgrim Appreciation Month because 00:04:31.269 --> 00:04:35.850 of Thanksgiving. Am I? Nothing says conservative 00:04:35.850 --> 00:04:38.470 like Pilgrim Appreciation Month. Well, yeah, 00:04:38.509 --> 00:04:40.370 because of Thanksgiving. The pilgrims came over. 00:04:41.870 --> 00:04:44.569 And saved the Native Americans by introducing 00:04:44.569 --> 00:04:49.120 Jesus. Yeah. And we got corn. But no, it was 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.360 a wonderful experience. I had a great time. I 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.399 work for a company that does science professionally. 00:04:54.860 --> 00:04:58.519 I don't do science. I'm HR. I'm ultimately useless. 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.360 But I support them. Professional science company 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.000 is such a crazy way to describe a business. I 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.180 don't want to talk about my employer. I know. 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.019 Because if I talk about my employer, people are 00:05:12.019 --> 00:05:15.009 going to fucking... harass me but that's just 00:05:15.009 --> 00:05:17.769 i work for i work for professional science i 00:05:17.769 --> 00:05:20.810 work for science yeah anyway long story short 00:05:20.810 --> 00:05:23.790 we're in the section of the pride parade where 00:05:23.790 --> 00:05:26.370 all of the different scientific organizations 00:05:26.370 --> 00:05:29.790 are right okay and uh the people in front of 00:05:29.790 --> 00:05:32.910 us had a big banner that said something about 00:05:32.910 --> 00:05:36.470 like a gay straight alliance and then like scientific 00:05:36.470 --> 00:05:40.850 whatever company they were And so there were 00:05:40.850 --> 00:05:43.149 just these roving groups of teenagers in the 00:05:43.149 --> 00:05:45.810 crowd and they would spot this banner and then 00:05:45.810 --> 00:05:48.970 just start shouting, gay science, gay science, 00:05:49.089 --> 00:05:52.569 gay science. And we all cheered because I thought 00:05:52.569 --> 00:05:54.350 that was great. Gay science is pretty funny. 00:05:54.670 --> 00:05:58.050 It's pretty awesome, right? The finest decorated 00:05:58.050 --> 00:06:01.970 labs in all of America. Oh, God. Gay science. 00:06:03.930 --> 00:06:06.829 I was like, this is the coolest. This is so much 00:06:06.829 --> 00:06:08.870 fun. That's super funny. I like that. Yeah, the 00:06:08.870 --> 00:06:10.689 scientists were loving it. They're all dancing, 00:06:10.790 --> 00:06:14.449 having a blast. It's such a cool experience to 00:06:14.449 --> 00:06:16.889 be able to do it with my employer, who will, 00:06:16.990 --> 00:06:20.069 again, go nameless. One, because I don't want 00:06:20.069 --> 00:06:22.170 my company getting any shit from just regular 00:06:22.170 --> 00:06:25.410 people. But two, I also don't want my poor company 00:06:25.410 --> 00:06:28.949 getting any shit from our drug -addled fucking 00:06:28.949 --> 00:06:31.509 moron president. Well, we know what company you 00:06:31.509 --> 00:06:35.569 work for. Gay Science LLC. Gay Science Company 00:06:35.569 --> 00:06:38.250 Incorporated. If I was going to start a scientific 00:06:38.250 --> 00:06:41.310 company. Gay Science Incorporated LLC. Yes. Yes. 00:06:41.569 --> 00:06:45.610 The science of pride. Yeah. All right. Well, 00:06:45.730 --> 00:06:48.649 anyway. Glad you had a good time. Anyone out 00:06:48.649 --> 00:06:50.550 there who's celebrating pride or going to pride 00:06:50.550 --> 00:06:52.550 celebrations, just have a good time. Make sure 00:06:52.550 --> 00:06:55.250 you're safe. Bring a friend, buddy system, you 00:06:55.250 --> 00:06:56.829 know, all that stuff. Just don't do anything 00:06:56.829 --> 00:06:59.230 crazy. All right, Sarge. I got a quick question 00:06:59.230 --> 00:07:05.139 for you. Go. Shoot. What year is it? Well, it 00:07:05.139 --> 00:07:13.040 is 2026, of course. Sure about that? You know, 00:07:13.139 --> 00:07:16.000 Dave, when you ask me questions like that, it 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.300 sends me into a spiral. I don't know, actually. 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:22.360 I could be wrong. So you don't think it's 2026? 00:07:22.860 --> 00:07:30.060 I think time is a flat circle. Okay. Well, Sarge, 00:07:30.100 --> 00:07:32.350 what if I told you... That it's not the year 00:07:32.350 --> 00:07:34.050 2026. What if we're actually living in the year 00:07:34.050 --> 00:07:37.990 1729 and that there are 300 years missing from 00:07:37.990 --> 00:07:40.110 the historical record? What if I told you that? 00:07:41.449 --> 00:07:44.709 I would say, have you received any head injuries 00:07:44.709 --> 00:07:47.509 recently? No. Is this a Rip Van Winkle situation 00:07:47.509 --> 00:07:50.410 where you're just in a coma for a while? No, 00:07:50.410 --> 00:07:52.209 Sarge. This week, we are going to be discussing 00:07:52.209 --> 00:07:54.850 the Phantom Time Hypothesis. Are you familiar 00:07:54.850 --> 00:07:58.389 with this at all? No. You're not? Yeah, it sounds 00:07:58.389 --> 00:08:01.930 confusing. It's actually really, it's actually, 00:08:01.949 --> 00:08:05.410 this is probably the dumbest. It's this, this 00:08:05.410 --> 00:08:08.269 is like ancient aliens, ancient apocalypse, like 00:08:08.269 --> 00:08:11.149 those types, but this is about, but this is about 00:08:11.149 --> 00:08:15.389 like time. Okay. And I'm game. I want to know 00:08:15.389 --> 00:08:18.529 more. The theory is flimsy as fuck. The evidence 00:08:18.529 --> 00:08:22.089 for it is even flimsier, uh, and it's super easy 00:08:22.089 --> 00:08:24.069 to debunk, but we're, we're getting ahead of 00:08:24.069 --> 00:08:27.339 ourselves. This whole thing kicked off thanks 00:08:27.339 --> 00:08:30.000 to one guy. His name was Herbert Illig. He was 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.200 a German guy born in 1947. He had a doctorate 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.460 in German literature and spent most of his career 00:08:35.460 --> 00:08:37.940 as a systems analyst at a bank. It's not exactly 00:08:37.940 --> 00:08:40.580 the resume you'd expect from the man trying to 00:08:40.580 --> 00:08:43.100 rewrite thousands of years of history, but I 00:08:43.100 --> 00:08:45.039 feel like it also kind of tracks for a guy who 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.379 would also be trying to rewrite. Yeah, it does 00:08:48.379 --> 00:08:53.340 track for anyone named Herbert. Yeah, so I guess 00:08:53.340 --> 00:08:55.950 apparently what happened was the historical record 00:08:55.950 --> 00:08:59.529 one day. I don't know. And he decided that something 00:08:59.529 --> 00:09:02.190 was a little off. And so he wrote a book about 00:09:02.190 --> 00:09:06.730 it in 1996 called Das Erfunden Mittelalter, which 00:09:06.730 --> 00:09:10.990 translates to The Invented Middle Ages. It became 00:09:10.990 --> 00:09:14.570 a legit bestseller in Germany. It got like super 00:09:14.570 --> 00:09:16.769 mainstream media coverage. People took it very 00:09:16.769 --> 00:09:19.669 seriously. It was kind of like when, oh, fuck, 00:09:19.690 --> 00:09:21.309 what's his name? The dude who wrote Chariot of 00:09:21.309 --> 00:09:23.690 the Gods. Like, you know, you wrote that book 00:09:23.690 --> 00:09:25.289 about ancient aliens and then it fucking blew. 00:09:25.370 --> 00:09:27.769 It's kind of like, kind of like that. But again, 00:09:27.870 --> 00:09:32.529 with the middle ages, I would be skeptical though, 00:09:32.649 --> 00:09:34.870 because the Germans don't have a great track 00:09:34.870 --> 00:09:41.870 record with books. No, no. Yeah. But it's just 00:09:41.870 --> 00:09:43.309 like, it's one of those things where like, as 00:09:43.309 --> 00:09:45.149 you know, there's like two types of people who 00:09:45.149 --> 00:09:47.309 would make a claim like this. Like there's the 00:09:47.309 --> 00:09:49.820 guy who knows it's a grift. He's playing to an 00:09:49.820 --> 00:09:51.720 audience. He's going to monetize that outrage. 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.919 And then there's a guy who genuinely believes 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.259 this stuff and has organized his entire intellectual 00:09:58.259 --> 00:10:02.500 life around this one idea. This guy is the second. 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:05.860 He's a firm believer in everything that he spouts. 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.460 He's still alive. He's still publishing books. 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:10.980 I think the most recent one was in 2023 or something 00:10:10.980 --> 00:10:13.820 like that. And he's never once walked any of 00:10:13.820 --> 00:10:18.100 it back. Even in the face of being like, this 00:10:18.100 --> 00:10:20.000 is why you're wrong. He's like, nah, see, that's 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:26.200 wrong. What concerns me is that maybe we stopped 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:34.700 book burnings too early. All right, so let's 00:10:34.700 --> 00:10:37.899 talk about what he actually claims. So the theory 00:10:37.899 --> 00:10:41.879 is like the claim is that there are three guys 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:44.019 got together and cooked up one of the biggest 00:10:44.019 --> 00:10:46.980 conspiracies in human history. The plan was fairly 00:10:46.980 --> 00:10:50.360 simple in theory, insane in practice. But basically 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:51.360 what they were going to do is they're going to 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.659 add 297 years to the historical record by forging 00:10:54.659 --> 00:10:57.879 documents, inventing historical figures and basically 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:00.539 just manufacturing like three centuries of fake 00:11:00.539 --> 00:11:05.559 civilization from scratch. And to pull something 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.100 like that off, you need the right people in the 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:12.279 right places. So those three people were Holy 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:16.080 Roman Emperor Otto III, Pope Sylvester II, and 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:19.620 Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII. So let's start 00:11:19.620 --> 00:11:21.600 with Otto III because he's basically the main 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:25.059 character here. Otto was the Holy Roman Emperor 00:11:25.059 --> 00:11:27.019 around the turn of the first millennium. And 00:11:27.019 --> 00:11:30.860 he was... really obsessed with the idea of restoring 00:11:30.860 --> 00:11:34.220 the Roman emperor to its former glory, like super 00:11:34.220 --> 00:11:36.860 obsessed. He moved his court to Rome. He tried 00:11:36.860 --> 00:11:39.120 to revive Roman traditions and ceremonies. He 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.480 gave himself titles like servant of Jesus Christ 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:44.460 and servant of the apostles. It's safe. He had 00:11:44.460 --> 00:11:47.799 a vision. Yeah. He also had a very cool name. 00:11:47.940 --> 00:11:50.440 Otto. Very cool name. It's not. Yeah, it's not 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.340 a bad name. Then there's Pope Sylvester the second. 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:55.779 And honestly, dude, out of all three of them, 00:11:55.820 --> 00:11:59.049 he is. Not usually a big fan of popes, any of 00:11:59.049 --> 00:12:01.769 them, but this guy, I fuck with hard. Okay. His 00:12:01.769 --> 00:12:05.389 real name is Gerbert of, oh, Gerbert, sorry, 00:12:05.470 --> 00:12:08.870 Gerbert of Aureliac, and he was honestly one 00:12:08.870 --> 00:12:12.250 of the most brilliant men of his era. He was 00:12:12.250 --> 00:12:14.509 a mathematician, an astronomer. He was one of 00:12:14.509 --> 00:12:17.669 the first Europeans to use Arabic numerals, and 00:12:17.669 --> 00:12:19.909 he built mechanical organs and armillary spheres 00:12:19.909 --> 00:12:21.929 and all kinds of stuff that nobody else in Europe 00:12:21.929 --> 00:12:24.789 could. kind of figure out he was so far ahead 00:12:24.789 --> 00:12:26.929 of his time that people literally thought he 00:12:26.929 --> 00:12:30.330 had made a pact with the devil nice like legitimately 00:12:30.330 --> 00:12:33.730 uh regular people at the time genuinely believed 00:12:33.730 --> 00:12:36.889 this man was almost like a like a sorcerer because 00:12:36.889 --> 00:12:39.769 uh there was no other explanation for how smart 00:12:39.769 --> 00:12:42.330 he was i kind of love that that like you could 00:12:42.330 --> 00:12:46.909 be so smart that people think you're satan that's 00:12:46.909 --> 00:12:48.889 fucking great i love how they jumped to that 00:12:48.889 --> 00:12:51.110 and not think that like he's the pope so wouldn't 00:12:51.419 --> 00:12:53.139 the divine knowledge or whatever have come from 00:12:53.139 --> 00:12:55.379 God. Why did it come from God? Yeah. I don't 00:12:55.379 --> 00:12:57.399 know. Uh, but there were stories about him having 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:59.639 a bronze head that could answer any question, 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.679 a, a magic book he stole from an Arab wizard, 00:13:02.860 --> 00:13:09.600 a horse that could predict the future. I, I want 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:12.399 to be friends with Sylvester. Yeah. Uh, he was 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.960 basically like Merlin, but real. So If you're 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:17.639 going to pick someone to help you pull off calendar 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:20.500 fraud, a Pope who does advanced mathematics and 00:13:20.500 --> 00:13:22.179 is rumored to literally be in league with the 00:13:22.179 --> 00:13:24.759 devil is not the worst call. That's someone you 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.840 want in your pocket. And then there's Constantine 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:30.460 VII, the Byzantine emperor, and his role in the 00:13:30.460 --> 00:13:33.360 conspiracy is basically that he was the third 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:42.389 guy. No, he... Constantine, go sit in the corner. 00:13:42.470 --> 00:13:44.470 Here's some crayons. We'll bring you in when 00:13:44.470 --> 00:13:47.830 we need you. No, he had... He's a Ringo Starr 00:13:47.830 --> 00:13:49.669 of the group. He's over there writing Octopus's 00:13:49.669 --> 00:13:52.370 Garden while fucking Sylvester's creating the 00:13:52.370 --> 00:13:55.450 first Dell computer. Yeah, well, basically... 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:57.820 Illig needed a representative from the eastern 00:13:57.820 --> 00:14:00.320 half of Christendom to make the whole thing feel 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.679 coordinated. So they found the dumbest guy they 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:05.879 could. And Constantine fit that bill because 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:10.120 he was emperor of Byzantium. Byzantium? I don't 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:14.100 know. Byzantium. Byzantium. I don't know if that's 00:14:14.100 --> 00:14:16.620 right. It sounds right. I think Byzantium is 00:14:16.620 --> 00:14:19.080 an element, but I could be wrong. But it was 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.580 around the right time, and he was known for being 00:14:21.580 --> 00:14:23.679 a scholar and a pretty big patron of learning. 00:14:23.940 --> 00:14:26.360 He actually commissioned a ton of historical 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:28.960 writings and encyclopedias during his reign, 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:32.220 which in Illig's framework looks kind of suspicious. 00:14:32.259 --> 00:14:34.740 Like maybe he was helping manufacture a historical 00:14:34.740 --> 00:14:37.820 record. You know, like a Byzantine emperor who 00:14:37.820 --> 00:14:40.700 loved commissioning histories suddenly seemed 00:14:40.700 --> 00:14:42.460 very convenient if you're building a theory about 00:14:42.460 --> 00:14:46.019 people forging histories. Okay. So that's your 00:14:46.019 --> 00:14:49.419 team. You got a megalomaniac emperor with a Rome 00:14:49.419 --> 00:14:52.399 obsession, a pope everyone thought was a sorcerer, 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:55.100 and a Byzantine scholar who really liked commissioning 00:14:55.100 --> 00:14:58.700 encyclopedias. If this is Ocean's Eleven, this 00:14:58.700 --> 00:15:01.940 is your core team of medieval calendar fraud. 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:05.840 This also sounds like an incredibly elaborate 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:11.519 joke. Like a holy Roman emperor, a wizard, and 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.980 a scholar walk into a bar. It does kind of sound 00:15:13.980 --> 00:15:17.440 like the setup to a really bad punchline. Yeah, 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:21.759 like really elaborate. Yeah. So why do they want 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:25.299 to add 297 years specifically? Well, it all comes 00:15:25.299 --> 00:15:29.279 down to one date, the year 1000 AD. Because in 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.879 medieval Christian Europe, the year 1000 AD wasn't 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:33.539 just another year. It was basically the medieval 00:15:33.539 --> 00:15:36.759 version of Y2K. People thought it might signal 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:38.799 the second coming of Christ, the end of days, 00:15:38.860 --> 00:15:40.860 the dawn of a new age. There was like genuine 00:15:40.860 --> 00:15:43.000 widespread panic about what was going to happen 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.759 when the calendar ticked over. And Otto wanted 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:47.580 to be the guy on the throne when it arrived. 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.820 The problem is, according to Illig, is that the 00:15:51.820 --> 00:15:53.919 calendar in Otto's time actually read somewhere 00:15:53.919 --> 00:16:00.100 around 699 AD, not 996. So to make 699 look like 00:16:00.100 --> 00:16:04.490 996, he and his co -conspirators... needed to 00:16:04.490 --> 00:16:07.509 add 297 years to the circle record. That's it? 00:16:08.330 --> 00:16:14.970 Yeah. Oh. So there's, like, no actual good reason 00:16:14.970 --> 00:16:18.850 to do it. No, he just wanted to be emperor when 00:16:18.850 --> 00:16:21.629 the year... He liked round numbers. That's fair. 00:16:21.809 --> 00:16:24.110 Okay. Yeah. But he didn't want to... He was like, 00:16:24.129 --> 00:16:27.750 yeah, I don't know. But the problem is that you 00:16:27.750 --> 00:16:30.330 can't just cross that out. Like, people knew 00:16:30.330 --> 00:16:35.500 what year it was. there were existing records, 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.259 existing calendars, existing documents stretching 00:16:38.259 --> 00:16:40.639 back centuries that everyone already agreed upon. 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:43.840 So instead, what they did is they allegedly coordinated 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:46.200 with monks and scribes across Europe to forge 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:49.299 hundreds of documents, fabricate entire historical 00:16:49.299 --> 00:16:53.120 figures, and invent three centuries of fake history 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:55.159 to fill that gap. Basically, they were writing 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.259 the Wikipedia page for a civilization that never 00:16:57.259 --> 00:17:00.279 existed, and they hid it throughout monasteries 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.100 all over Europe, hoping nobody noticed. Like 00:17:03.100 --> 00:17:07.079 Atlantis or Lemuria. Yeah, kind of. Okay. And 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.200 each of these three guys had a specific role 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:12.819 in making that happen. Otto was the distribution 00:17:12.819 --> 00:17:15.200 network. As a holy Roman emperor, he controlled 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.279 the political and religious infrastructure of 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:19.579 Western Europe, like the monasteries, the churches, 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:22.440 and all the places where documents would be produced 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:24.220 and preserved. So if you want fake documents 00:17:24.220 --> 00:17:26.500 copied and circulated across an entire continent 00:17:26.500 --> 00:17:29.339 without... anyone asking questions you need to 00:17:29.339 --> 00:17:31.880 be the guy who runs that continent you need auto 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:35.079 yeah uh sylvester he was the architect he was 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:37.160 the one with like the mathematical and astronomical 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.839 knowledge to actually engineer the calendar manipulation 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:42.720 and make sure like all the numbers added up uh 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:44.359 so yeah you would need someone who understands 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:46.799 how calendars work well enough to fake one and 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.380 out of the three of them the guy everyone that 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:52.319 thought was like a little literal sorcerer it's 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.630 probably the best bet Right, yeah. And Constantine's 00:17:56.630 --> 00:17:58.369 role in this is he was basically the corroboration 00:17:58.369 --> 00:18:01.630 by commissioning historical encyclopedias and 00:18:01.630 --> 00:18:06.970 written records from Byzantium. Yeah, Byzantium, 00:18:07.029 --> 00:18:09.690 I'm hoping. He was essentially creating an independent... 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:11.819 eastern source that happened to align with whatever 00:18:11.819 --> 00:18:14.859 the western forgers were producing so a forgery 00:18:14.859 --> 00:18:17.160 that only exists in one place looks like a forgery 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.299 but a forgery that two separate civilizations 00:18:19.299 --> 00:18:22.200 seem to agree on looks a lot more like history 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.599 if any of that makes sense right no it does okay 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.460 now here's the thing about how this kind of forgery 00:18:28.460 --> 00:18:32.140 supposedly worked in practice you don't have 00:18:32.140 --> 00:18:35.039 to get every monk in on it. You don't need every 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.559 monk in every monastery to know that you're copying 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:39.160 fake documents. You just have to get the right 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:41.680 material into circulation early enough that it 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:43.779 gets copied and referenced by other documents, 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:45.940 which then get copied and referenced by more 00:18:45.940 --> 00:18:48.660 documents. And over time, the fake records become 00:18:48.660 --> 00:18:51.720 so densely cross -referenced that it looks completely 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:54.880 real. Does that make sense? Yeah, I'm tracking. 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:58.440 Make sure you follow. Yeah. And to give credit 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:00.769 where credit's due. It's actually like a pretty 00:19:00.769 --> 00:19:03.029 sophisticated theory of how a forgery could scale. 00:19:03.109 --> 00:19:05.490 It's completely wrong, but the mechanism makes 00:19:05.490 --> 00:19:09.069 sense. This is like the first Slender Man creepypasta. 00:19:09.849 --> 00:19:15.309 Sure, yeah. Right? And to be fair to Illig, medieval 00:19:15.309 --> 00:19:17.880 document... forgery was extremely common and 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:20.420 well documented. Monasteries fake charters all 00:19:20.420 --> 00:19:22.799 the time to protect their land claims. The Catholic 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:25.220 Church forged documents constantly. There was 00:19:25.220 --> 00:19:27.640 a famous example called the Donation of Constantine, 00:19:27.740 --> 00:19:29.859 which was a document the church used for centuries 00:19:29.859 --> 00:19:33.539 to justify its political authority. That turned 00:19:33.539 --> 00:19:38.000 out to be totally fake. The idea that some documents 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.960 from this period are forged, that's not controversial. 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.259 Historians fully agree on that. Illig just... 00:19:44.509 --> 00:19:47.710 Took that kernel of truth and decides, you know, 00:19:47.730 --> 00:19:51.450 that means it's all fake, which is kind of a 00:19:51.450 --> 00:19:54.809 big leap to make. That means 300 years of total 00:19:54.809 --> 00:19:58.089 bullshit. Yeah. Well, I'm sure you want to know 00:19:58.089 --> 00:20:01.069 where the proof of all this is. I would like 00:20:01.069 --> 00:20:02.930 some proof, yes. Yeah, he doesn't just make claims 00:20:02.930 --> 00:20:05.269 and then leave it at that. He actually does have 00:20:05.269 --> 00:20:07.150 some evidence or at least things he points to 00:20:07.150 --> 00:20:09.869 as evidence. And look, some of it doesn't sound 00:20:09.869 --> 00:20:12.869 completely crazy on the surface until it does. 00:20:13.819 --> 00:20:17.140 Yeah. So his biggest piece of evidence, the one 00:20:17.140 --> 00:20:20.480 the whole theory is built on, is a calendar discrepancy. 00:20:20.819 --> 00:20:23.460 Specifically, the Gregorian calendar reform of 00:20:23.460 --> 00:20:27.440 1582, where Pope Gregory XIII dropped 10 days 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:29.779 from the calendar to fix a drift that had built 00:20:29.779 --> 00:20:32.539 up over centuries. The Julian calendar, which 00:20:32.539 --> 00:20:35.619 Julius Caesar introduced in 45 BC, assumed the 00:20:35.619 --> 00:20:40.339 year was exactly 365 .25 days long. But the actual 00:20:40.339 --> 00:20:43.079 solar year is about 11 minutes shorter than that. 00:20:43.140 --> 00:20:44.910 It's a tiny difference, but over... the centuries 00:20:44.910 --> 00:20:49.490 it adds up by 1582 the spring equinox had drifted 00:20:49.490 --> 00:20:51.589 about 10 days from where it was supposed to be 00:20:51.589 --> 00:20:54.049 and the church cared about the that because easter 00:20:54.049 --> 00:20:57.109 is calculated based on the equinox so gregory 00:20:57.109 --> 00:21:00.190 drops 10 days fixes the problem everyone moves 00:21:00.190 --> 00:21:03.470 on except illig looks at this and says hold the 00:21:03.470 --> 00:21:06.349 fuck up all right if you measure the drift all 00:21:06.349 --> 00:21:09.470 the way back to julius caesar in 45 bc it shouldn't 00:21:09.470 --> 00:21:12.470 be 10 days it should be closer to 13 days so 00:21:12.470 --> 00:21:16.549 where did those extra Three days ago. It became 00:21:16.549 --> 00:21:26.589 300 years. The answer is 300 missing years. Uh 00:21:26.589 --> 00:21:31.269 -oh, Illig. I like that you got that right when 00:21:31.269 --> 00:21:32.549 they did not even know what the fuck's going 00:21:32.549 --> 00:21:39.049 on. Yeah, his answer was that there's a missing 00:21:39.049 --> 00:21:42.880 300. The drift is short because the centuries 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:45.000 were fake and therefore the drift never accumulated. 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:51.039 This sounds insane. But that's the foundation 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:53.960 of the entire theory. It's a three -day discrepancy 00:21:53.960 --> 00:22:04.460 and a 1582 calendar correction. Oh, God. You're 00:22:04.460 --> 00:22:11.480 going to make me die. You all right? He went 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:14.619 such a long way to explain three days. Yeah. 00:22:17.380 --> 00:22:20.259 It's awesome. But it's not just the calendar. 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:21.960 All right. Sorry. There's also physical evidence 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:25.799 or the lack thereof. Okay. Illig points to the 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:28.579 fact that archaeological evidence from 1614 to 00:22:28.579 --> 00:22:31.380 911 is noticeably thinner than periods around 00:22:31.380 --> 00:22:32.960 it. There's fewer big construction projects, 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:35.259 there's fewer coins, fewer material remains, 00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:38.359 and he says that sparseness is suspicious, that 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:40.819 if three centuries of active civilization actually 00:22:40.819 --> 00:22:43.720 happened, you would expect more stuff to be left 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:47.099 behind. But his biggest flex, the thing he really 00:22:47.099 --> 00:22:49.279 hinges his hat on, is Charlemagne. You're familiar 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:51.680 with Charlemagne, right? Yes, of course. Yeah, 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.920 Charlemagne is... Who doesn't know? Good old 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:57.339 Charlemagne. But he's arguably like one of the 00:22:57.339 --> 00:23:00.839 most, the greatest ruler ever in the early, he 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:05.039 united most of Western Europe. People literally 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:08.380 call him the father of Europe. Yeah. Well, Iliac 00:23:08.380 --> 00:23:12.279 says he's entirely fictional. Just a made up 00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:16.440 emperor invented to fill the fake centuries with 00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:20.150 something that sounds like real history. Now, 00:23:20.230 --> 00:23:23.049 the reason Illig zeroes in on Charlemagne specifically 00:23:23.049 --> 00:23:26.029 is because his reign sits almost perfectly in 00:23:26.029 --> 00:23:28.509 the middle of these phantom centuries. If you're 00:23:28.509 --> 00:23:30.349 going to invent a plausible history for three 00:23:30.349 --> 00:23:32.569 fake centuries of European civilization, you 00:23:32.569 --> 00:23:34.990 need a big central figure to anchor all the other 00:23:34.990 --> 00:23:38.549 fake events around. Naturally. Yeah, someone 00:23:38.549 --> 00:23:40.690 whose wars and alliances and court and family 00:23:40.690 --> 00:23:42.410 could generate thousands of documents that all 00:23:42.410 --> 00:23:44.490 reference each other. And Charlemagne, according 00:23:44.490 --> 00:23:46.750 to Illig, is that anchor, the character they 00:23:46.750 --> 00:23:49.359 built the whole fake era around. And it's not 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:51.519 just Charlemagne either. If Illig is right, that 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:53.420 means that Charlemagne's entire family is fake. 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.980 His court is fake. All the wars were fake. His 00:23:55.980 --> 00:23:57.819 advisors, the people who wrote about him, the 00:23:57.819 --> 00:23:59.099 people who wrote about the people that wrote 00:23:59.099 --> 00:24:01.859 about him, all those things completely fake, 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:07.039 which is ambitious. Okay. Just thousands of documents 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:09.980 across hundreds of locations, all forged, but 00:24:09.980 --> 00:24:11.920 yet all perfectly consistent with each other, 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.299 all planted by a handful of conspirators who 00:24:14.299 --> 00:24:16.740 somehow never once made a contradictory mistake 00:24:16.740 --> 00:24:20.279 across 300 years, across an entire continent 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:22.440 with no one ever saying anything. And that's 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:24.059 just Charlemagne. The list of things that would 00:24:24.059 --> 00:24:26.579 never have happened, according to Illig, is wild. 00:24:26.660 --> 00:24:31.509 You got the Viking Age. entirely fake. Leif Erikson, 00:24:31.549 --> 00:24:33.309 the raise on England, the settlement of ice, 00:24:33.369 --> 00:24:35.670 all of that was just completely invented. Alfred 00:24:35.670 --> 00:24:37.589 the Great, the king who held off the Vikings 00:24:37.589 --> 00:24:39.630 and basically created the English state, that's 00:24:39.630 --> 00:24:42.630 all made up. The founding of Venice didn't happen. 00:24:43.029 --> 00:24:45.529 The Battle of Tours, where Charles Martel supposedly 00:24:45.529 --> 00:24:47.990 stopped the Muslim advance into Western Europe 00:24:47.990 --> 00:24:51.250 and changed the course of history. Hogwash, dude. 00:24:51.410 --> 00:24:55.680 That's just a bunch of... bullshit the reign 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:58.720 of Empress Wu Zetian in China the only woman 00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:00.900 in Chinese history to assume the title of Empress 00:25:00.900 --> 00:25:04.079 Regent that's all fake apparently even though 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.839 she ruled a civilization on the other side of 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.880 the world that had nothing to do with Otto the 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.559 third so yeah the entire life of Muhammad and 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:13.480 the founding of Islam falls right in the phantom 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.720 centuries too what do you think he says about 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:21.220 that I think we shouldn't talk about that part 00:25:22.380 --> 00:25:24.799 To keep ourselves alive. No, he said it happened. 00:25:25.420 --> 00:25:27.680 He said it wasn't us. No, he said, you know, 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.579 Islam did happen just later than we think. Oh, 00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:37.039 okay. I understand. Still an insane thing to 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:42.140 make up. Like, you could have literally put anything 00:25:42.140 --> 00:25:45.579 in those 300 years. Like, you could have just 00:25:45.579 --> 00:25:47.039 been like, ah, you know what? We had a lot of 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:51.319 plagues. Yeah. Because that's believable. They 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:53.200 were having plagues all the fucking time. Yeah. 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.319 No, I know. We had a lot of sickness. For about 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.880 300 years, shit got real wild and nobody built 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:00.319 anything because we just weren't feeling very 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:02.380 good. Wasn't there also a little ice age happening? 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.660 Mm -hmm. Yep. We're still in it, actually. Well, 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.359 kind of. The end of it. It's fine. But we'll 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.910 get to... Well, don't worry. We'll debunk some 00:26:13.910 --> 00:26:16.190 of this a little later. But yeah, so Islam did 00:26:16.190 --> 00:26:18.670 happen just later than we think. But that kind 00:26:18.670 --> 00:26:20.970 of creates a whole cascade of problems in his 00:26:20.970 --> 00:26:24.869 timeline. He never really resolves any of it. 00:26:24.869 --> 00:26:27.630 Of course not. And one of those reasons that 00:26:27.630 --> 00:26:29.970 is kind of bullshit is because the Islamic calendar 00:26:29.970 --> 00:26:33.210 starts from the Hijra, which is the year Muhammad 00:26:33.210 --> 00:26:36.710 fled from Mecca to Medina, which was 622 AD. 00:26:36.950 --> 00:26:38.910 And Muslims have been counting from that date. 00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:41.839 continuously ever since uh are they also wrong 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:49.680 did someone get to them too sylvester shows up 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.619 but nobody knows what he looks like because they're 00:26:52.619 --> 00:26:54.799 not famously not allowed to draw muhammad he's 00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:57.539 just like bro let me let me tell you about all 00:26:57.539 --> 00:26:58.980 this stuff that happened while you were asleep 00:26:58.980 --> 00:27:03.000 yeah i got 300 years we gotta go over so yeah 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.319 he just just nothing's real everything everything's 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.240 made up uh I think there's a whole section of 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:11.960 the planet that wants to talk to him about the 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:16.299 Muhammad thing. Nah, it's whatever. So to make 00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:18.359 this theory work, you would have to throw out 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:20.220 not just European history, but basically the 00:27:20.220 --> 00:27:22.559 entire foundation of the medieval world. Every 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.140 kingdom, every war, every document, every dynasty, 00:27:25.140 --> 00:27:28.180 it's all fake, it's all planted, all coordinated 00:27:28.180 --> 00:27:30.299 across the entire globe by an emperor with a 00:27:30.299 --> 00:27:32.599 god complex, a pope who was basically Gandalf, 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.140 and a Byzantine scholar with a hard -on for encyclopedias. 00:27:38.539 --> 00:27:42.079 Now, let's see how this, you know, is it true? 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:47.460 No, Sarge, obviously not. No. I could have told 00:27:47.460 --> 00:27:49.319 you that. Yeah, so let's talk about why this 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.900 falls apart. It falls apart in several very satisfying 00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:55.259 ways. First, the calendar argument. Illig assumed 00:27:55.259 --> 00:27:57.940 that the Gregorian reform of 1582 was supposed 00:27:57.940 --> 00:28:00.119 to realign the calendar all the way back to Julius 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.400 Caesar in 45 BC. But that's not what it was for. 00:28:03.579 --> 00:28:05.480 The church wasn't trying to go back to Caesar. 00:28:05.619 --> 00:28:07.319 They're trying to get back to the Council of 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.319 Messiah in 325 AD, which is when the rules for 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.660 calculating Easter were first established. That 00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:15.900 was the reference point. And if you measure the 00:28:15.900 --> 00:28:21.680 drift from 325 to 1582, which is about... 1 ,257 00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:23.960 years, it's almost exactly 10 days. The math 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.220 works out perfectly. There are no missing centuries. 00:28:27.619 --> 00:28:30.000 Illig just picked the wrong starting line and 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:31.880 then built his entire theory based off of that 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:35.339 one mistake. A German calendar specialist named 00:28:35.339 --> 00:28:38.579 Karl Mutz laid this all out in detail in 2001. 00:28:38.859 --> 00:28:42.460 It was so thoroughly explained by him that most 00:28:42.460 --> 00:28:44.930 historians and anyone even... remotely fallen 00:28:44.930 --> 00:28:47.049 just stopped engaging with the theory after that 00:28:47.049 --> 00:28:50.289 like not because the question was too hard to 00:28:50.289 --> 00:28:52.829 answer because the answer was so simple and so 00:28:52.829 --> 00:28:54.910 complete that there was nothing left to say on 00:28:54.910 --> 00:29:03.230 the subjects it's the it's the like old timey 00:29:03.230 --> 00:29:06.650 version of getting ratioed that's exactly what 00:29:06.650 --> 00:29:10.170 it's like uh second the archaeology The physical 00:29:10.170 --> 00:29:14.589 evidence from 614 to 911 is thin, sure, but it 00:29:14.589 --> 00:29:16.690 doesn't look like nothing happened. It looks 00:29:16.690 --> 00:29:20.710 like things were just really bad. Yeah. Rome 00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:24.309 collapsed in 476 AD, well before the phantom 00:29:24.309 --> 00:29:27.710 centuries even start. Trade networks were disrupted. 00:29:27.930 --> 00:29:30.450 Population had dropped. Resources were tight. 00:29:31.630 --> 00:29:33.549 They were building timber buildings out of stone, 00:29:33.750 --> 00:29:37.670 smaller settlements, simpler pottery. The archaeological 00:29:37.670 --> 00:29:40.430 record looks exactly what you'd expect from a 00:29:40.430 --> 00:29:42.710 period of significant population decline and 00:29:42.710 --> 00:29:46.410 economic collapse, minus, you know, all the plagues. 00:29:47.009 --> 00:29:52.049 There's also a problem of very hairy northern 00:29:52.049 --> 00:29:55.210 men going around breaking stuff. No, see, that 00:29:55.210 --> 00:29:58.809 didn't happen, though. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's not 00:29:58.809 --> 00:30:02.480 like... in absence of evidence, is evidence of 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.519 a really hard few centuries. Yeah. Which is exactly 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.740 what historians already knew it was. And beyond 00:30:10.740 --> 00:30:13.359 Europe, the Islamic world from this period is 00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.119 extraordinarily well documented. Muhammad was 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.900 born around 570 AD and died in 632 AD, right 00:30:19.900 --> 00:30:22.440 at the start of the phantom centuries. The early 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.960 caliphates that followed produced mountains of 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.109 written records, administrative... documents, 00:30:27.250 --> 00:30:30.390 legal texts, theological works, poems, history, 00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:33.170 all of it consistent, all of it cross -referenced, 00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:34.910 and all of it independently preserved in institutions 00:30:34.910 --> 00:30:38.250 that had absolutely no contact with whatever 00:30:38.250 --> 00:30:41.130 Otto III was supposedly doing in Rome 400 years 00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:46.569 later. iliac theory work you would need a coordinated 00:30:46.569 --> 00:30:49.390 global conspiracy involving every major civilization 00:30:49.390 --> 00:30:52.930 on earth simultaneously with zero leaks zero 00:30:52.930 --> 00:30:55.289 contradictions for a thousand years and as we 00:30:55.289 --> 00:30:58.329 know about conspiracies the more people involved 00:30:58.329 --> 00:31:01.089 the easier all this stuff's going to come out 00:31:01.089 --> 00:31:03.730 and right you would see you think someone would 00:31:03.730 --> 00:31:06.390 have slipped up somewhere now the third and this 00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:09.329 is my favorite the conspirators uh the ocean's 00:31:09.329 --> 00:31:12.630 level medieval fraud gang, Otto, Sylvester, and 00:31:12.630 --> 00:31:17.369 Constantine. Now, Constantine died decades before 00:31:17.369 --> 00:31:22.130 Otto was even born. Oh, that's a problem. Yeah, 00:31:22.190 --> 00:31:24.349 Sylvester only overlapped with Otto for a few 00:31:24.349 --> 00:31:26.849 years, and this conspiracy requires that these 00:31:26.849 --> 00:31:29.710 three men would have had to have sat down together 00:31:29.710 --> 00:31:32.130 and cornered one of the most complex frauds in 00:31:32.130 --> 00:31:34.410 human history, even though two of them never 00:31:34.410 --> 00:31:39.849 shared a single year of life on Earth. That's 00:31:39.849 --> 00:31:41.529 actually hilarious. Yeah, they couldn't have 00:31:41.529 --> 00:31:42.869 met. They couldn't have planned anything. They 00:31:42.869 --> 00:31:45.430 couldn't have shaken hands. The conspiracy requires 00:31:45.430 --> 00:31:47.769 coordination between people who never overlapped 00:31:47.769 --> 00:31:49.789 in time, which is a pretty significant problem 00:31:49.789 --> 00:31:54.109 for a conspiracy theory. And out of the third, 00:31:54.210 --> 00:31:57.130 the actual guy at the center of all this, he 00:31:57.130 --> 00:32:00.130 was driven out of Rome by revolt. He fled the 00:32:00.130 --> 00:32:04.329 city. He died at 21 on a failed military campaign 00:32:04.329 --> 00:32:08.569 in Italy. He was only emperor or whatever for 00:32:08.569 --> 00:32:11.779 like... Seven years, I think. It was not a very 00:32:11.779 --> 00:32:14.299 long time. He died trying to retake a city that 00:32:14.299 --> 00:32:18.160 had kicked him out. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah, this 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:20.759 is the man who supposedly edited the entire historical 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:23.140 record of Western civilization and fooled every 00:32:23.140 --> 00:32:26.400 historian, archaeologist, and scientist on Earth. 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.440 But, yeah, he died at 21 fleeing a city that 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.019 just full -on fucking hated him. But, you know, 00:32:31.059 --> 00:32:33.400 sure, they faked 300 years of history. It makes 00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.859 sense to me. Sure. Of course they did. Of course 00:32:35.859 --> 00:32:37.789 they did. And then there's the thing that really 00:32:37.789 --> 00:32:42.369 kind of finishes it all off. In 774 and 775 AD, 00:32:42.430 --> 00:32:43.910 right in the middle of the phantom centuries, 00:32:44.089 --> 00:32:46.670 there was a massive burst of cosmic radiation 00:32:46.670 --> 00:32:49.009 that hit the Earth. We don't fully know what 00:32:49.009 --> 00:32:51.190 it was. It was probably like a big solar flare. 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.319 But whatever it was, it was enormous. And it 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.859 was big enough that it left a permanent spike 00:32:56.859 --> 00:33:00.140 in carbon -14 levels in tree rings all over the 00:33:00.140 --> 00:33:02.920 world. In Germany, Russia, United States, Finland, 00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:05.539 Japan, the same spike at the same point in the 00:33:05.539 --> 00:33:09.420 rings across trees on every continent. Scientists 00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:12.299 call it the Miyake event after the physicist 00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:16.269 Fusamiaki, who identified it in 2012. The tree 00:33:16.269 --> 00:33:18.710 ring chronologies are continuous. Scientists 00:33:18.710 --> 00:33:20.869 have built an unbroken record going back thousands 00:33:20.869 --> 00:33:22.730 of years by matching overlapping ring patterns 00:33:22.730 --> 00:33:24.549 from living trees, dead trees, ancient timber 00:33:24.549 --> 00:33:26.789 and old buildings, and preserved woods. And you 00:33:26.789 --> 00:33:29.970 can't insert fake rings. You can't forge the 00:33:29.970 --> 00:33:32.509 carbon -14 spike into wood that has been grown 00:33:32.509 --> 00:33:35.470 in the ground since before anyone was born. Sylvester 00:33:35.470 --> 00:33:37.930 could do it. Probably. He's fucking super smart. 00:33:38.390 --> 00:33:41.190 Yeah, so basically the Miyake event is a timestamp 00:33:41.190 --> 00:33:44.309 baked into... physical batter on every continent. 00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:49.069 And that places 774 AD exactly where the standard 00:33:49.069 --> 00:33:51.170 historical timeline says it should be right in 00:33:51.170 --> 00:33:53.829 the middle of the years that Illig says didn't 00:33:53.829 --> 00:33:59.069 happen. Yeah. Heribert, I think, is just at this 00:33:59.069 --> 00:34:01.690 point in the trust me, bro stage of this conspiracy. 00:34:02.750 --> 00:34:04.799 Yeah, well, but it's also just... It's not just 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.240 the trees. The same cosmic radiation spike shows 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.679 up in beryllium -10 levels in ice cores pulled 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.360 from Antarctica and Greenland, completely separate 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.420 natural archives on opposite ends of the Earth, 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.300 both showing the same event in the same year. 00:34:16.980 --> 00:34:19.159 And then there's the astronomical record. Solar 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:21.380 eclipses, comet sightings from the phantom centuries 00:34:21.380 --> 00:34:24.360 have been independently verified by modern back 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.179 calculation to line up exactly with the standard 00:34:27.179 --> 00:34:29.920 timeline. Like Halley's Comet was recorded in 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.599 837 AD by an observer in China, also in Japan. 00:34:33.670 --> 00:34:35.809 and the Middle East, and in Europe. And modern 00:34:35.809 --> 00:34:38.489 astronomers can calculate exactly where Halley's 00:34:38.489 --> 00:34:40.590 Comet was at any point in history, and it was 00:34:40.590 --> 00:34:42.849 precisely where the historical record says it 00:34:42.849 --> 00:34:46.550 was. So pretty much all this to say the trees 00:34:46.550 --> 00:34:48.789 disagree with him, the ice cores disagree with 00:34:48.789 --> 00:34:53.130 him, the fucking sky disagrees with him. And 00:34:53.130 --> 00:34:55.030 the one mathematical argument in this entire 00:34:55.030 --> 00:34:58.429 theory rests on, turns out he just, you know, 00:34:58.449 --> 00:35:01.110 picked the wrong starting point. Yeah, he did 00:35:01.110 --> 00:35:04.030 the math wrong. Yeah, but he's committed. Well, 00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:08.369 good for him. He believes in it, and that's good 00:35:08.369 --> 00:35:12.090 for him. At least he's not a grifter. I mean, 00:35:12.110 --> 00:35:13.769 he sells books, but he believes in the thing 00:35:13.769 --> 00:35:15.670 he's selling, I guess. Yeah, that's what I'm, 00:35:15.690 --> 00:35:18.289 like, of course, man's got to live. Man's got 00:35:18.289 --> 00:35:22.010 to eat. He's got to keep himself, you know, stuffed 00:35:22.010 --> 00:35:24.570 with strudel. And the only way he can do that 00:35:24.570 --> 00:35:26.989 is to tell his story to the people and sell it 00:35:26.989 --> 00:35:31.170 regardless of how stupid and thoroughly improbable 00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:35.030 it is. Yeah, well. It gets worse, kind of. Here's 00:35:35.030 --> 00:35:38.250 the thing. As insane as Illig is, he's not the 00:35:38.250 --> 00:35:40.750 most insane person in this space. He's not even 00:35:40.750 --> 00:35:43.389 close. If you say David Icke, I'm leaving. No, 00:35:43.389 --> 00:35:45.489 no, no, no. There's a Russian mathematician named 00:35:45.489 --> 00:35:49.110 Anatoly Fomenko who looked at Illig's work and 00:35:49.110 --> 00:35:51.269 essentially said, that's cute, but you're not 00:35:51.269 --> 00:35:57.989 thinking big enough. Oh, good. Fomenko's version 00:35:57.989 --> 00:36:00.429 called The New Chronology claims that it's not 00:36:00.429 --> 00:36:02.980 just 300 years that were fake. It's close to 00:36:02.980 --> 00:36:05.860 1 ,000. He believes that ancient Greece, ancient 00:36:05.860 --> 00:36:08.420 Rome, and ancient Egypt didn't actually happen 00:36:08.420 --> 00:36:11.019 when we think they did. They all occurred in 00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:14.019 the Middle Ages and were just backdated to make 00:36:14.019 --> 00:36:16.239 them seem older. So the Trojan War, that was 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.280 medieval. The construction of the pyramids, that 00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:20.260 was medieval. Julius Caesar, he's also medieval. 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.860 And he gets weirder. Fomenko thinks that a huge 00:36:23.860 --> 00:36:25.659 number of historical figures that we consider 00:36:25.659 --> 00:36:28.000 separate people are actually the same person 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.760 just described in different sources under different 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.170 names. So you got Jesus Christ and the Byzantine 00:36:34.170 --> 00:36:38.630 Emperor Andronicus I. That's the same guy. Genghis 00:36:38.630 --> 00:36:41.570 Khan and the Mongol commander Batu Khan. That's 00:36:41.570 --> 00:36:43.809 the same guy. And in some versions of the theory, 00:36:43.909 --> 00:36:46.550 Jesus, Genghis Khan, and Attila the Hun all collapse 00:36:46.550 --> 00:36:52.349 into a single person. Oh, that's stupid. Because 00:36:52.349 --> 00:36:55.909 like wildly different philosophies. Yeah, yeah. 00:36:56.050 --> 00:36:58.010 So yeah, Jesus, Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, 00:36:58.090 --> 00:37:01.340 the founder of Christianity, the guy. who united 00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:03.400 the Mongols and conquered half of Europe, or 00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.500 Asia, and the guy Romans called the Scourge of 00:37:05.500 --> 00:37:09.719 God, they're the same person. So the Scourge 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.840 of God is actually God. Sure, yeah. Because that 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:17.119 checks out when you think about it. Yeah, but 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.880 it doesn't stop there. Yeah, the Trojan War and 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:21.880 the Crusades, according to Fomenko, basically 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:23.980 the same event described twice by different cultures. 00:37:26.460 --> 00:37:28.820 Ancient Rome and the medieval Holy Roman Empire, 00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.099 not two separate empires, the same empire described 00:37:32.099 --> 00:37:34.880 twice with the ancient version just being backdated, 00:37:35.019 --> 00:37:37.280 retelling the medieval one. Does that make sense? 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.940 Oh, no. Oh, it doesn't. The biblical Exodus, 00:37:41.179 --> 00:37:44.780 Fumiko puts that in the 1300s AD. The construction 00:37:44.780 --> 00:37:47.340 of the Egyptian pyramids was also medieval. Cleopatra 00:37:47.340 --> 00:37:48.679 and Alexander the Great, that's also medieval. 00:37:49.619 --> 00:37:53.570 Basically, if it happened... before like 980, 00:37:53.929 --> 00:37:55.969 Fomenko thinks it either didn't happen at all 00:37:55.969 --> 00:37:58.190 or happened much later and got moved backwards 00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:00.349 by people trying to make their civilization look 00:38:00.349 --> 00:38:03.309 older and more impressive. Well, at least he 00:38:03.309 --> 00:38:10.230 has a reason for why. Yeah. Fomenko isn't just 00:38:10.230 --> 00:38:12.989 making this up. He actually built the mythology. 00:38:13.230 --> 00:38:16.190 He used statistical analysis of historical chronicles, 00:38:16.289 --> 00:38:18.710 looking at how events, reigns, and timelines 00:38:18.710 --> 00:38:20.909 repeat across different... historical records 00:38:20.909 --> 00:38:23.650 his argument is that the mathematical patterns 00:38:23.650 --> 00:38:26.130 are too similar that when you line up the reign 00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:29.030 of lengths of the reign lengths of roman emperors 00:38:29.030 --> 00:38:31.389 and medieval kings or even sequences in different 00:38:31.389 --> 00:38:33.150 ancient histories they match up in ways that 00:38:33.150 --> 00:38:35.510 can't be coincidental so his conclusion is that 00:38:35.510 --> 00:38:37.389 they're not coincidental they're just describing 00:38:37.389 --> 00:38:43.010 the same events oh okay does that make sense 00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:46.550 no i mean i get what you say you know like you 00:38:46.550 --> 00:38:50.039 know like history repeats itself I never heard 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:54.920 that before. Did you make that up? I mean, based 00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.019 on the logic that we're using for Hebert and 00:38:58.019 --> 00:39:00.800 this Russian guy, yes, I made it up. Okay, cool. 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:02.400 It's pretty good. I'll have to remember that 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.639 for future reference. But yeah, but it almost 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.719 sounds reasonable until you follow it to its 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.880 conclusion, which is that Cleopatra and Jesus 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.980 were basically contemporaries and the pyramids 00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:15.900 were built sometime around the Battle of Hastings. 00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:24.420 Your face says it all. No. No. None of this is 00:39:24.420 --> 00:39:28.420 no. I'm putting my foot down. Well, you don't 00:39:28.420 --> 00:39:30.980 have to believe in it because he already has 00:39:30.980 --> 00:39:32.699 enough support that he needs. One of his biggest 00:39:32.699 --> 00:39:36.159 public supporters was Garry Kasparov, the chess 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.619 champion, potentially the greatest strategic 00:39:38.619 --> 00:39:41.420 mind of the 20th century, a man who could calculate 00:39:41.420 --> 00:39:43.559 12 moves ahead in a game of chess being played 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:47.119 simultaneously against 40 opponents. He was out 00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.960 there helping them. He actually co -wrote four 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.500 actual published books with Fomenko about how 00:39:52.500 --> 00:39:55.119 Jesus and Attila the Hun were the same person. 00:39:55.579 --> 00:39:58.320 Never meet your heroes, guys. Yeah. I really 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.900 did admire Kasparov for a long time, but less 00:40:00.900 --> 00:40:03.199 so now. Yeah, he gave interviews about it. He 00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.219 went on record saying that the conventional view 00:40:05.219 --> 00:40:07.159 of ancient history was a fabrication and that 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.639 Fomenko had cracked the real timeline. He was 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.929 pretty enthusiastic about it. for a lot of years 00:40:12.929 --> 00:40:16.010 uh he eventually did distance himself from it 00:40:16.010 --> 00:40:18.510 but never fully recanted anything that he said 00:40:18.510 --> 00:40:21.789 uh and honestly the image of the greatest chess 00:40:21.789 --> 00:40:23.449 player alive spending his poster time of years 00:40:23.449 --> 00:40:25.190 co -authoring books arguing that the roman empire 00:40:25.190 --> 00:40:27.250 never existed is one of my favorite things in 00:40:27.250 --> 00:40:29.369 all of conspiracy theory history i think that's 00:40:29.369 --> 00:40:34.309 very funny yeah it is pretty funny yeah so that's 00:40:34.309 --> 00:40:37.369 it that's that's the theory uh of the missing 00:40:37.929 --> 00:40:41.070 uh the phantom time hypothesis you've never heard 00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:44.150 anything about the this at all no no how you 00:40:44.150 --> 00:40:46.309 feeling about it no i mean like i've heard i've 00:40:46.309 --> 00:40:50.449 definitely heard people try and conflate uh historical 00:40:50.449 --> 00:40:52.670 figures and mash them up and say they're the 00:40:52.670 --> 00:40:55.570 same person there's some fucking idiot on tiktok 00:40:55.570 --> 00:40:57.650 who goes by the fittest flat earther he just 00:40:57.650 --> 00:41:02.230 recently did that yeah um he purposely he knows 00:41:02.230 --> 00:41:06.469 he's a piece of shit and he puts uh satire in 00:41:06.469 --> 00:41:10.590 his TikTok bio so that he can just claim when 00:41:10.590 --> 00:41:12.570 he puts out misinformation that it's satire. 00:41:12.670 --> 00:41:14.570 Yeah, he's just trying to fucking beat the algorithm. 00:41:15.110 --> 00:41:18.530 Yeah, yeah. I'm really hoping there's another 00:41:18.530 --> 00:41:21.289 plague soon and he doesn't get vaccinated for 00:41:21.289 --> 00:41:25.409 that one either. So something can finish what 00:41:25.409 --> 00:41:29.050 COVID started. But the bottom line is, this is 00:41:29.050 --> 00:41:32.019 interesting. It's really interesting to me. it's 00:41:32.019 --> 00:41:35.699 dumb as fuck. Yeah. But I like the idea of thinking 00:41:35.699 --> 00:41:39.360 like, because we, we can't, we don't know. We 00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.280 weren't back in history and we have to rely on 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.719 other people to give us information. People who, 00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:47.400 you know, study this and can, you know, explain 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.239 carbon dating. I think it's really fascinating 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:54.059 to know that like we can say with some degree 00:41:54.059 --> 00:41:56.940 of confidence, but we can't say with a hundred 00:41:56.940 --> 00:41:59.699 percent confidence that things have happened 00:41:59.699 --> 00:42:03.579 because. There's no way for a single person to 00:42:03.579 --> 00:42:05.420 independently verify these. You have to rely 00:42:05.420 --> 00:42:09.019 on experts, you know? Yeah. And this is also 00:42:09.019 --> 00:42:11.400 just like a very truncated version of this theory. 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.059 Obviously, he came up with it. He came up with 00:42:14.059 --> 00:42:15.800 all this shit, but then people expanded on it. 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.679 And if you ever want to go on a good deep dive, 00:42:18.820 --> 00:42:20.920 just to be like, this is ridiculous, but also 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.800 it's kind of super entertaining. I highly suggest 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.059 doing a further deep dive into the Phantom Time 00:42:25.059 --> 00:42:28.179 hypothesis because it's a lot of fun. There is 00:42:28.179 --> 00:42:31.219 some stuff again. That's not in here. I mean, 00:42:31.219 --> 00:42:32.880 none of it. I mean, these are the three biggest 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.059 points that you need to like, but then you also 00:42:36.059 --> 00:42:38.760 have those people who like, they expand time 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.579 out even further. And they think that like buildings 00:42:41.579 --> 00:42:44.519 are way older than, than they actually are. And 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:48.460 giants roamed the earth. Like, so this is why 00:42:48.460 --> 00:42:50.219 I said this kind of like, do you ever watch the 00:42:50.219 --> 00:42:53.599 ancient apocalypse on Netflix? No, I specifically 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.079 avoided it because it's full of shit. It's pretty 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:59.280 good. It is kind of pseudo archaeology, but I 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.019 forget the guy's name who hosts it and his theory, 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:03.840 but basically he's trying to say that all these 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.820 buildings are older than what they are. So it's 00:43:06.820 --> 00:43:10.320 kind of like the opposite of this theory. He's 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:11.880 saying that there was like a lost civilization 00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.420 that existed right after or during the last ice 00:43:15.420 --> 00:43:17.719 age or some shit like that. This is saying the 00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:19.480 exact opposite, which is like, oh no, none of 00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.440 that shit even fucking happened, dude. We're 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:25.500 just... we made all that up. There's a, there's 00:43:25.500 --> 00:43:30.219 a guy on YouTube, Milo Rossi. He's an environmental 00:43:30.219 --> 00:43:34.780 scientist and a archeological specialist. And 00:43:34.780 --> 00:43:38.139 he actually does a really good breakdown of the 00:43:38.139 --> 00:43:42.460 ancient apocalypse theory. Yeah. So I highly 00:43:42.460 --> 00:43:45.059 advise everyone to look him up. He is from new 00:43:45.059 --> 00:43:49.159 England. His name is on YouTube. He's mini minute 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:53.500 man. Because he went to UMass Amherst, I think 00:43:53.500 --> 00:43:57.380 it was. Really, really smart kid. Pretty funny. 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:01.840 And he does a great job of just tearing all of 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:06.260 this pseudo stuff apart. Because I think the 00:44:06.260 --> 00:44:09.079 thing that we miss when we hear these crazy ancient 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.880 apocalypse things and stuff is that a lot of 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.679 it's rooted in racism. In very low expectations 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:19.059 of primitive peoples. No, to be fair, ancient 00:44:19.059 --> 00:44:20.639 apocalypse is the opposite of that. It's not 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.139 like ancient aliens where they're saying like, 00:44:22.139 --> 00:44:24.000 there's no way these people could ancient apocalypse. 00:44:24.059 --> 00:44:26.559 He's not saying that these civilizations didn't 00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.639 build it. He's saying they built it earlier than 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.039 what we think it was built. Okay. He's not, he's 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.000 not, he's not trying to say that like the white 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:35.800 man came and built it for him and then they lived 00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.719 like he's. ancient, ancient apocalypse. Isn't 00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:41.360 that, I mean, true. The guy has been on Joe Rogan, 00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.340 which is fucked up, but I think that by itself 00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:46.820 is proof enough for me not to trust anything 00:44:46.820 --> 00:44:48.619 he says. But I think that was more, I think that's 00:44:48.619 --> 00:44:50.699 more like he's just trying to get his theory 00:44:50.699 --> 00:44:53.380 out there. Not so much that I don't really, I 00:44:53.380 --> 00:44:55.079 don't know much about the guy. He could be fucking 00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:57.780 crazy. I mean, he is, but he's not, it's not 00:44:57.780 --> 00:44:59.599 like ancient aliens where like Giorgio Succulent 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.559 sees a fucking statue. And it was like ancient 00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.719 people could be on that. It's gotta be, it's 00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.800 gotta be aliens. It is interesting. I don't buy 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.639 most of it. I would look up Milo Rossi's videos 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.480 on it because he did a good debunk. I watched 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.980 it a long time ago. I think the Ancient Apocalypse 00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:20.139 came out over a year ago, maybe two years ago 00:45:20.139 --> 00:45:23.980 now. There's two seasons now. Milo did a debunk 00:45:23.980 --> 00:45:26.920 of it and it was really good. I'm just paraphrasing 00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:29.239 what a lot of his videos are, which is basically 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.239 you're just not giving primitive people enough 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:33.300 credit. I think he's giving them more credit, 00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:35.980 so I'm going to have to push back on that. Yeah, 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.000 no, I'm saying it's been a while since I've, 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:41.340 I've watched the debunk. So I, uh, I'm conflating 00:45:41.340 --> 00:45:44.420 stories, but definitely watch Milo on it. He's, 00:45:44.420 --> 00:45:46.820 he's got, he gives a lot of evidence for why, 00:45:46.900 --> 00:45:50.059 uh, the videos that people put out are wrong. 00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.000 So, uh, give it a good watch. But what is that 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.389 guy's name? Graham planter. I think is his name. 00:45:55.429 --> 00:45:56.909 Sometimes I had fucking, I couldn't tell you. 00:45:56.929 --> 00:46:00.010 I don't care. Yeah. I just, apparently he's like 00:46:00.010 --> 00:46:02.710 big in the pseudo archeological space. Yeah. 00:46:02.809 --> 00:46:05.210 He's, and he's always doing that. Like, oh, well, 00:46:05.230 --> 00:46:07.070 archeologists don't want you to know this. And 00:46:07.070 --> 00:46:08.829 archeologists are like, no, we want you to know 00:46:08.829 --> 00:46:10.929 the right stuff. Yeah. We want you to know truth. 00:46:11.329 --> 00:46:14.110 It is framed that way. It is kind of framed in 00:46:14.110 --> 00:46:18.590 that same, like. What if? And they don't want 00:46:18.590 --> 00:46:21.030 you to know. Yeah, it's not that. But yeah, we're 00:46:21.030 --> 00:46:23.050 getting away from it. Yeah, we're getting away 00:46:23.050 --> 00:46:25.969 from it. This is an incredibly stupid theory, 00:46:26.030 --> 00:46:28.369 but I like where it's coming from. There's a 00:46:28.369 --> 00:46:32.070 lot of gumption in it. Just to believe that 300 00:46:32.070 --> 00:46:35.349 years didn't happen, that's kind of an interesting 00:46:35.349 --> 00:46:38.730 theory. It's crazy, though, because I hate to 00:46:38.730 --> 00:46:43.619 say it, but I could see it being possible. only 00:46:43.619 --> 00:46:45.400 because like there were so many wars, stuff like 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.440 that. Like there could have been one fucking 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.639 war where like everything got burnt down and 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.079 everyone's like, I don't know what year it is 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.239 now. And then they just wrote down a year. They 00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:54.980 just started. But you also, if you look at like 00:46:54.980 --> 00:46:57.480 the Bible, for instance, it's like, Oh, they're 00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.079 all over. It's one, it's one book that is completely 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.079 changed humanity often for the worse. Yeah. And 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.739 we have no idea who wrote it. Oh, what do you 00:47:06.739 --> 00:47:10.659 mean? It was Paul. All right. I'm going to, I'm 00:47:10.659 --> 00:47:14.329 going to sign out. No, you know what I mean. 00:47:14.369 --> 00:47:19.510 I think it is an interesting theory. Why wouldn't 00:47:19.510 --> 00:47:21.170 it just be that one source? Why couldn't there 00:47:21.170 --> 00:47:24.250 be other sources that are also corrupted? I mean, 00:47:24.309 --> 00:47:28.130 you talk about Marco Polo. He claims he saw dog 00:47:28.130 --> 00:47:31.929 men, and that's not true at all. You don't know 00:47:31.929 --> 00:47:37.369 that. You don't know, dude. You don't know. You 00:47:37.369 --> 00:47:39.420 could have. He could have, he could have, but 00:47:39.420 --> 00:47:40.860 he's probably just being, he's probably just 00:47:40.860 --> 00:47:43.099 being racist. True. Or it could have been like 00:47:43.099 --> 00:47:45.340 that fucking, uh, the 13th warrior where they 00:47:45.340 --> 00:47:47.860 thought there was like bear, bear humans attacking 00:47:47.860 --> 00:47:49.940 everyone, but it's just people wearing bear skins. 00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.139 Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You never know. Um, all 00:47:53.139 --> 00:47:54.619 right. Yeah. But, uh, definitely if you want 00:47:54.619 --> 00:47:58.260 a good deep dive, like rabbit hole thing, keep 00:47:58.260 --> 00:48:02.059 looking further. This is a lot of fun. Um, definitely 00:48:02.059 --> 00:48:04.900 watch ancient apocalypse and watch, uh, mini 00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:07.079 minute man videos. Cause I'm, that's what I'm 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.300 going to end up doing. Yeah, watch Milo Rossi. 00:48:09.300 --> 00:48:11.780 He's great. He's very funny. I think that's all 00:48:11.780 --> 00:48:13.980 I got. I don't have anything else to add. I'm 00:48:13.980 --> 00:48:17.019 super sick, so my brain is fog right now. No, 00:48:17.139 --> 00:48:19.219 I got nothing else either. All right. Well, I 00:48:19.219 --> 00:48:21.820 guess with that out of the way, follow us on 00:48:21.820 --> 00:48:23.659 Instagram, CrypticHotel. Follow us on TikTok, 00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.179 CrypticHotelParty. Leave us a five -star rating 00:48:26.179 --> 00:48:28.440 and review, either on Apple, Spotify. It doesn't 00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.559 really matter. It helps get the word out about 00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:33.219 the show. It helps push the show and the algorithm. 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.340 Call the hotline 321 -300 -5606. 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