WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.200 You are now listening to cryptid cocktail party 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:44.780 Welcome back everyone to another episode of Crypto 00:00:44.780 --> 00:00:46.399 Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few drinks, 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:48.420 share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. 00:00:48.579 --> 00:00:51.359 I'm your host Dave, joined as always by my wonderful 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:53.780 co -host Sarge. How's it going Sarge? Hey, hey, 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.899 hey. What's going on? Nothing. Are you talking 00:00:56.899 --> 00:01:00.840 to me or the audience? Everyone. Everyone all 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:05.340 at once. I hope you all enjoyed the little photo 00:01:05.340 --> 00:01:07.799 spread that Dave put up. Somebody asked for that 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:10.019 to be a calendar. And I think that might be the 00:01:10.019 --> 00:01:12.260 worst year of your life. No, I think that's actually 00:01:12.260 --> 00:01:17.299 a pretty good idea, I think. I actually thoroughly 00:01:17.299 --> 00:01:19.219 enjoyed that idea, and I think we should move 00:01:19.219 --> 00:01:22.439 forward with it. The many seasons of such. Well, 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:25.299 you know, I just felt like, you know, a little 00:01:25.299 --> 00:01:28.719 appreciation. And I appreciate you for appreciating 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:32.659 me. Yeah. That was unexpected and heartwarming. 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:39.000 And to all of my new followers. I'm not sexually 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:43.939 interested in you, but they are in you. So that's 00:01:43.939 --> 00:01:47.280 really, I look like a hoe, but I'm, I'm a, I'm, 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:53.180 I'm a well -behaved man. Yeah. No, just when 00:01:53.180 --> 00:01:57.340 I drink, I'm not, but I'm not, I'm not. Okay. 00:01:57.459 --> 00:01:59.840 Oh, all right. No one's accusing me of this. 00:02:03.299 --> 00:02:05.840 This is coming very projection -y, and I don't 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:10.599 know. Well, you did show me in my sassy little 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:12.719 outfit there with the pineapples and the palm 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:16.259 trees. Yeah, yeah. But you also had the cowboy 00:02:16.259 --> 00:02:18.500 hat one. That was pretty good. The cowboy hat 00:02:18.500 --> 00:02:20.960 one was great. Do you think the pineapple one 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.419 is the most spicy one? I feel like the one of 00:02:23.419 --> 00:02:26.099 you cooking. Well, I think it's because I'm squatting. 00:02:26.139 --> 00:02:28.479 Oh, yeah. There is the one where I'm showing 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:33.539 off my biceps. Yeah. while cooking. That's terrifying. 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.319 Yeah. As someone said, I think your cast iron 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:45.240 is properly seasoned. We have the best fans. 00:02:45.300 --> 00:02:49.680 We really do. I was fully waiting to be roasted 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:54.240 mercilessly and it wasn't merciless at all. So 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:56.400 thank you. Everyone was very kind. Again, it 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.360 was a Sarge appreciation post because we all 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.659 appreciate you, Sarge. Well, I appreciate you 00:03:00.659 --> 00:03:02.900 guys. I really do. Yeah. And plus, if it wasn't 00:03:02.900 --> 00:03:05.159 for that post, we never would have made it onto 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:07.520 the page of the Satanic Temple, which was pretty 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.979 cool. Which makes my day. You have no idea. Yeah. 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:15.639 I go there all the time. My daughter finally 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:20.240 thinks I did something cool. It was a win. Yeah. 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:22.259 That was a cool notification to get to see that. 00:03:22.379 --> 00:03:27.219 Yeah. What I love about it, too, is that. I know 00:03:27.219 --> 00:03:30.240 it's like this, it's now, this is nothing, but 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:32.979 like, they didn't ask permission. They just screen 00:03:32.979 --> 00:03:36.780 capped the phone and just posted it on there. 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.240 Like they didn't add, like, what if you didn't 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:41.479 want it there? It's fine. It's fine. I'm fine 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:44.460 with it. I mean, I guess it's a public post. 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.360 Anyone can see it. It's not like I like hit it 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:48.939 behind a paywall or anything, but yeah, they 00:03:48.939 --> 00:03:52.990 are just like, Hey. I mean, the kinds of people 00:03:52.990 --> 00:03:54.870 who would be offended by that are the kinds of 00:03:54.870 --> 00:03:57.509 people I don't want following me anyway. So no 00:03:57.509 --> 00:03:59.389 harm, no foul. It was cool. That was, that was 00:03:59.389 --> 00:04:02.069 a cool notification to get. Yeah. All right. 00:04:02.090 --> 00:04:06.110 Sorry. So you ready to dive into part two of 00:04:06.110 --> 00:04:07.949 Easter? Oh my God. I'm so ready. All right. I'm 00:04:07.949 --> 00:04:11.009 so ready. So I tried to like find like, I'm sure 00:04:11.009 --> 00:04:12.689 I know it's out there. I've seen it. I've heard 00:04:12.689 --> 00:04:15.210 them. I tried to find like EVPs or like ghost 00:04:15.210 --> 00:04:17.569 voices caught on tape. But for some reason, when 00:04:17.569 --> 00:04:19.110 I went to go try and find it this time around. 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:22.259 All my searches came back with like EVPs, but 00:04:22.259 --> 00:04:24.579 it was all like ghost hunters and ghost adventures. 00:04:24.860 --> 00:04:27.079 Or if I found one, they put music over it, which 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:29.019 is fucking wild. Like why? Why would you put 00:04:29.019 --> 00:04:30.740 music over it? Because they're not confident. 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:32.879 They're not confident in their evidence. So they 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:37.319 tried to hide it behind. They lied to us. But 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.579 yeah, it was all just like I saw. We're not going 00:04:39.579 --> 00:04:42.199 to put any evidence in this video or this episode 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.899 because it was a pain in the head. I just didn't 00:04:44.899 --> 00:04:47.740 want to do it. Yeah. Nobody wants to hear Zach 00:04:47.740 --> 00:04:50.420 Baggins describe how he feels about the evidence, 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.420 which is every goddamn episode. And I like the 00:04:53.420 --> 00:04:55.939 amateur ghost hunting, like ones that I found 00:04:55.939 --> 00:04:59.199 the exposition before they actually even played 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.660 the EVP. It took me out of it. I was like, I 00:05:02.660 --> 00:05:05.079 don't care anymore. It's like, yeah, it's like 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:07.319 a 10 minute long video for like a split second 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:10.199 of a, what may or may not be just someone's jacket 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:13.000 rubbing against their arm. It's so frustrating. 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.100 Yeah. And like, I get it. You know, you got to, 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:17.519 play the video you got to have a certain length 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.040 video in order to be accepted by the algorithm 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.089 but Go fuck yourself. Yeah, I don't know. Pull 00:05:23.089 --> 00:05:26.329 your thumb out of your ass, you dicks. All right, 00:05:26.350 --> 00:05:29.790 so last week, Sarge, we covered the history of 00:05:29.790 --> 00:05:31.870 Eastern State Penitentiary from its conception 00:05:31.870 --> 00:05:34.769 all the way up to its closure in 1970, or 1971, 00:05:34.889 --> 00:05:37.129 if you count that brief time that it was used 00:05:37.129 --> 00:05:38.889 as a city jail. Reopened as a county jail, right? 00:05:38.970 --> 00:05:41.149 Yeah, but something you and the listeners may 00:05:41.149 --> 00:05:43.649 have noticed in part one as well is that while 00:05:43.649 --> 00:05:46.730 Eastern State Penitentiary was controversial 00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:49.800 for a lot of things, mostly the whole... indefinite 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:52.379 solitary confinement and psychological torture 00:05:52.379 --> 00:05:55.540 leading to finally problematic yeah one thing 00:05:55.540 --> 00:05:57.720 it wasn't known for during its time of operation 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:02.259 was ghosts so back then there really aren't that 00:06:02.259 --> 00:06:04.480 many documented reports of hauntings or like 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:06.740 paranormal activity while it was an active person 00:06:06.740 --> 00:06:08.139 there is one which we'll get to and it's pretty 00:06:08.139 --> 00:06:10.459 funny uh but to be fair it was probably hard 00:06:10.459 --> 00:06:13.410 to tell If it was haunted, considering it probably 00:06:13.410 --> 00:06:15.910 already sounded like a haunted house with all 00:06:15.910 --> 00:06:19.509 the screaming going on from the mental breaks. 00:06:20.009 --> 00:06:22.870 Also, if you're suffering from visual and auditory 00:06:22.870 --> 00:06:26.089 hallucinations due to long periods of solitary 00:06:26.089 --> 00:06:28.670 confinement, it's probably kind of hard to figure 00:06:28.670 --> 00:06:32.209 out what's a ghost and what isn't. Exactly. But 00:06:32.209 --> 00:06:35.670 sometime between when the prison finally closed 00:06:35.670 --> 00:06:40.350 and current day world. I'm not going to say the 00:06:40.350 --> 00:06:41.850 date, what day it is today to keep this episode 00:06:41.850 --> 00:06:48.189 evergreen. Then I won't mention Iran at all. 00:06:51.430 --> 00:06:53.870 Well, I mean, that's probably still going to 00:06:53.870 --> 00:06:55.509 be a problem 20 years from now if this plays 00:06:55.509 --> 00:06:58.970 out anything. As an Iraq war veteran, you're 00:06:58.970 --> 00:07:01.750 absolutely right. Yeah. But sometime between 00:07:01.750 --> 00:07:04.069 then and now, Eastern State has developed quite 00:07:04.069 --> 00:07:06.029 their reputation as one of the most haunted locations 00:07:06.029 --> 00:07:09.470 in all of America. Ghost hunters investigated. 00:07:09.910 --> 00:07:12.269 Paranormal shows filmed there. Or I should say 00:07:12.269 --> 00:07:14.930 filmed there. Visitors report hearing voices, 00:07:15.050 --> 00:07:17.709 seeing shadows, moving from cell block to cell 00:07:17.709 --> 00:07:19.649 block. There's also reports of people being touched 00:07:19.649 --> 00:07:22.129 and just like that overall vibe that someone 00:07:22.129 --> 00:07:24.990 or something is watching you from just beyond 00:07:24.990 --> 00:07:28.600 the shadows. What's crazy, though. Is that the 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.699 organization that runs Eastern State today does 00:07:31.699 --> 00:07:34.379 not officially claim that the prison is haunted 00:07:34.379 --> 00:07:37.420 and they're pretty firm on that. They actually 00:07:37.420 --> 00:07:40.959 banned paranormal investigations in 2019. Like, 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.199 oh, come on. And that's like not just like amateur 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:48.680 people. That's like no one can. That's no fun. 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:52.040 Like, what the fuck is the point of owning like 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:54.459 an old ass prison if you're not going to let 00:07:54.459 --> 00:07:58.100 people walk around with EVPs? shouting a ghost 00:07:58.100 --> 00:08:01.439 well it's because well one of the reasons was 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.879 because of the decorum of some of the paranormal 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.360 investigators but another reason another reason 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.839 why and i get it is because like the it's a museum 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:13.779 and the museum is like their mission is for like 00:08:13.779 --> 00:08:16.300 prison reform they don't want a bunch of fucking 00:08:16.300 --> 00:08:18.819 zach baggins there and tap out shirts trying 00:08:18.819 --> 00:08:21.399 to fight ghosts well it's not that's not their 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:24.399 mission i guess uh but at the same time they 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.759 do kind of lean into it because you know money 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:31.500 and yeah but but i don't mean that like in a 00:08:31.500 --> 00:08:33.840 disparaging way like i get it i'm sure it costs 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.220 a shit ton of money to keep that place from like 00:08:36.220 --> 00:08:39.399 just imploding in on absolutely like you've got 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.539 all like miles of of pipe in that building probably 00:08:43.539 --> 00:08:46.299 full of water in pennsylvania you have to keep 00:08:46.299 --> 00:08:48.659 it heated year round that makes sense i get it 00:08:48.659 --> 00:08:51.279 i would i would do the same thing like For instance, 00:08:51.299 --> 00:08:53.360 every year around Halloween, they host Terror 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.379 Behind the Walls, which is just like a massive 00:08:55.379 --> 00:08:58.460 haunted house. See, that's awesome. Yeah, it's 00:08:58.460 --> 00:09:01.279 pretty cool. And the official audio tour, which 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.620 again is narrated by Steve Buscemi. So good. 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.139 It even includes an entire section asking the 00:09:07.139 --> 00:09:09.440 question, is Eastern State Penitentiary haunted? 00:09:09.700 --> 00:09:12.860 And the answer is basically. I don't know, but 00:09:12.860 --> 00:09:14.879 then it proceeds to walk visitors through some 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:17.820 of the more like famous like stories and experiences 00:09:17.820 --> 00:09:20.860 people have had inside the prison. So I guess 00:09:20.860 --> 00:09:22.960 the question is, if there wasn't any paranormal 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:25.620 activity when it was operational, the organization 00:09:25.620 --> 00:09:27.620 that runs the prison doesn't acknowledge is haunted. 00:09:27.659 --> 00:09:29.980 And Steve Buscemi has no fucking clue. Then how 00:09:29.980 --> 00:09:34.159 did he get the reputation as like a paranormal 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:37.350 hotspot? Well, part of that answer has to do 00:09:37.350 --> 00:09:40.129 with what happened after the prison closed. When 00:09:40.129 --> 00:09:42.590 Eastern State shut down for good, it wasn't immediately 00:09:42.590 --> 00:09:46.769 turned into like a museum. It was just straight 00:09:46.769 --> 00:09:51.289 up abandoned and abandoned prisons like any good 00:09:51.289 --> 00:09:54.230 abandoned building. The vibes become kind of 00:09:54.230 --> 00:09:56.870 unsettling. Over the decades, the place slowly 00:09:56.870 --> 00:09:59.629 started decaying. Roofs started collapsing. Paint 00:09:59.629 --> 00:10:01.649 was peeling off the walls. It was just deteriorating 00:10:01.649 --> 00:10:04.409 from the inside out. It's basically just in a. 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:07.899 abandoned ruin in the middle of center city Philadelphia, 00:10:08.179 --> 00:10:12.740 which is kind of awesome. Honestly. Um, eventually 00:10:12.740 --> 00:10:15.220 though, preservation efforts began and they started 00:10:15.220 --> 00:10:18.740 doing limited hard hat tours, which sounds fucking 00:10:18.740 --> 00:10:20.740 terrifying. I would never tour somewhere where 00:10:20.740 --> 00:10:22.519 they're like, you're going to need a hard hat. 00:10:23.100 --> 00:10:27.059 In case something falls and just fucking accordions 00:10:27.059 --> 00:10:30.500 your spine real quick. Those began in 1988 and 00:10:30.500 --> 00:10:33.379 they started doing like the Halloween fundraisers, 00:10:33.379 --> 00:10:35.639 like the precursor to Terror Behind the Walls 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:40.299 in 1991. So it wasn't too long after the prison 00:10:40.299 --> 00:10:42.480 closed. That would probably have been a great 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.539 time to go too because it's like very rough and 00:10:45.539 --> 00:10:48.480 they're not ready. So it probably looks real 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:52.210 bad. in like 1992 you know what i mean well and 00:10:52.210 --> 00:10:54.490 this actually segues right into what i was about 00:10:54.490 --> 00:10:56.909 to say next instead of restoring the prison into 00:10:56.909 --> 00:10:58.450 something close to what it would have looked 00:10:58.450 --> 00:11:01.649 like while operational they intentionally preserved 00:11:01.649 --> 00:11:04.450 it in its crumbling state so what it looked like 00:11:04.450 --> 00:11:06.649 then is what it looks like now it's like a creepy 00:11:06.649 --> 00:11:08.809 place and just the atmosphere alone is enough 00:11:08.809 --> 00:11:11.269 to make you feel easy not me interesting choice 00:11:11.269 --> 00:11:13.549 yeah like not me though i wasn't scared when 00:11:13.549 --> 00:11:15.730 i was there at all i was super tough and it was 00:11:15.730 --> 00:11:18.730 really fun and Well, you're a braver man than 00:11:18.730 --> 00:11:21.850 I am because I spent a little time in an abandoned 00:11:21.850 --> 00:11:25.370 prison and nearly shit myself. I went during 00:11:25.370 --> 00:11:26.970 the day where there was a million people there 00:11:26.970 --> 00:11:30.929 in the summertime. I will say this. Surprisingly 00:11:30.929 --> 00:11:35.070 drippy. It was kind of like the inside of the 00:11:35.070 --> 00:11:37.669 ship from Aliens. It was just wet with chains 00:11:37.669 --> 00:11:39.669 everywhere. It's always wet. Yeah. I don't know 00:11:39.669 --> 00:11:44.269 what that's about. do we want to know we don't 00:11:44.269 --> 00:11:45.909 want to know yeah i don't know i don't remember 00:11:45.909 --> 00:11:47.950 what i was saying oh it's a creepy place and 00:11:47.950 --> 00:11:49.870 the atmosphere alone is enough to make you feel 00:11:49.870 --> 00:11:51.929 uneasy well with all the water and all and it's 00:11:51.929 --> 00:11:54.190 around this time that the ghost stories really 00:11:54.190 --> 00:11:57.009 started to like kind of like take hold visitors 00:11:57.009 --> 00:11:59.870 reported hearing voices seeing shadows some people 00:11:59.870 --> 00:12:01.710 started claiming that certain parts of the prison 00:12:01.710 --> 00:12:04.330 uh made them feel sick or dizzy or like they 00:12:04.330 --> 00:12:06.899 were being watched at first These were just like 00:12:06.899 --> 00:12:09.659 anecdotes from people who were visitors. But 00:12:09.659 --> 00:12:11.379 after a while, these anecdotes started to like 00:12:11.379 --> 00:12:14.000 cluster in specific locations. And once those 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.360 stories started repeating themselves, that's 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.000 when its haunted reputation really kind of took 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.379 hold. So I figured what we do today is basically 00:12:22.379 --> 00:12:24.860 give you guys like a little haunted ghost store 00:12:24.860 --> 00:12:27.519 of Eastern State Penitentiary, starting with 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:29.519 one of the most famous stories connected to the 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.019 prison. This begins the way most good paranormal 00:12:32.019 --> 00:12:36.519 stories begin, with maintenance work. You know 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:38.279 what, Dave? You're taking me out of it because 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:42.139 you're not doing a Steve Buscemi accent. I wouldn't 00:12:42.139 --> 00:12:45.820 even know how to. I wouldn't either. Does he 00:12:45.820 --> 00:12:48.240 have an accent? He has a pretty normal voice, 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.740 doesn't he? Now I think he kind of talks like 00:12:51.740 --> 00:12:55.120 this. Sure. He's kind of New York -y, I think, 00:12:55.179 --> 00:12:59.500 a little bit, right? Hey, fellow kids. That's 00:12:59.500 --> 00:13:02.120 actually pretty good. That's not bad. Thanks. 00:13:02.779 --> 00:13:05.179 I won't do any more because I'll fuck it up. 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.200 So in the early 90s, restoration crews started 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:10.220 working inside the prison as part of the whole 00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:12.759 preservation effort. One of the people working 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:15.159 there was a locksmith named Gary Johnson who 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:16.820 had been tasked with removing some of the old 00:13:16.820 --> 00:13:19.139 locks from the old cell doors. And these weren't 00:13:19.139 --> 00:13:21.080 like your normal door locks. These were like 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:23.440 massive iron prison locks that had been sitting 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.980 in those doors for well over 100 years and probably 00:13:25.980 --> 00:13:28.889 hadn't even been touched in at least 50. yeah 00:13:28.889 --> 00:13:31.629 and it probably had like comically large keys 00:13:31.629 --> 00:13:37.669 yeah so keys the length of a toddler So Johnson 00:13:37.669 --> 00:13:39.809 heads into cell block four and gets to work on 00:13:39.809 --> 00:13:41.269 one of the old locks, trying to get it loose 00:13:41.269 --> 00:13:43.690 from the cell door. And eventually the lock gives 00:13:43.690 --> 00:13:45.529 way. But as soon as it does, something in the 00:13:45.529 --> 00:13:48.389 air changed. Johnson claimed he felt a sudden 00:13:48.389 --> 00:13:50.690 surge of negative energy move through the corridor. 00:13:50.830 --> 00:13:52.950 Not just like an uneasy feeling, but something 00:13:52.950 --> 00:13:54.870 a bit stronger. He said it was like he felt a 00:13:54.870 --> 00:13:57.669 force grabbed him and held him in place like 00:13:57.669 --> 00:14:00.330 he couldn't move. Then he started seeing distorted, 00:14:00.549 --> 00:14:03.110 tormented faces with twisted expressions pressed 00:14:03.110 --> 00:14:05.919 into the stone walls of the cell block. Like 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.080 the walls themselves were full of people trying 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:11.139 to get out. Then, according to Johnson, one of 00:14:11.139 --> 00:14:13.600 those figures pulled itself forward from the 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:17.159 wall and began reaching towards him. And at this 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.179 point, Johnson did what I think any reasonable 00:14:19.179 --> 00:14:21.480 person would do in this situation and got the 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.000 fuck out of there as fast as he could. I would 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:25.919 have quit immediately. I would have done the 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:27.019 same thing. I would have been like, hey, you 00:14:27.019 --> 00:14:33.179 know what? Keep the money and my tools. and the 00:14:33.179 --> 00:14:34.860 poop i left in there i don't want to be here 00:14:34.860 --> 00:14:37.500 anymore yeah and uh and johnson's story was easy 00:14:37.500 --> 00:14:40.019 it's easily become one of the most repeated ghost 00:14:40.019 --> 00:14:42.259 stories associated with the eastern state probably 00:14:42.259 --> 00:14:44.720 because it's a nightmare and i hate it uh yeah 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.919 it became so popular that the story made its 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.379 way into the prison's official audio tour again 00:14:50.379 --> 00:14:54.480 narrated by award -winning actor uh steve buscemi 00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:59.740 His story isn't the only strange shit happening 00:14:59.740 --> 00:15:02.419 in Cell Block 4. Visitors report sudden waves 00:15:02.419 --> 00:15:04.480 of dizziness there. Others claim that certain 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:07.139 areas of the block feel unusually heavy or oppressive, 00:15:07.179 --> 00:15:09.340 which makes sense. So yeah, Cell Block 4 sucks. 00:15:10.419 --> 00:15:14.559 Yeah. I don't like it. It's not a great story, 00:15:14.659 --> 00:15:17.200 but it actually isn't the part of the prison 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:18.779 that comes up the most when talking about the 00:15:18.779 --> 00:15:20.879 paranormal. That distinction belongs to Cell 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.879 Block 12. Over the years, this block has developed... 00:15:25.580 --> 00:15:28.559 Kind of a pretty shitty reputation is one of 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:30.659 the most active areas inside of Houston State. 00:15:31.100 --> 00:15:33.639 Visitors, staff, investigators, they've all reported 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.279 experiences there. Voices echoing through the 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:38.480 corridor, strange laughter coming from empty 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.960 cells, and shadow figures moving around the block. 00:15:42.779 --> 00:15:44.759 One of the most common reports in cell block 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.000 12 involves the upper catwalk that runs along 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.519 the second level. It's just like a metal catwalk. 00:15:50.139 --> 00:15:52.870 People standing on the ground floor. report to 00:15:52.870 --> 00:15:55.049 hear like what sound like heavy boots walking 00:15:55.049 --> 00:15:58.529 slowly along the catwalk uh like a thud thud 00:15:58.529 --> 00:16:00.669 and then yeah and then it just stops and then 00:16:00.669 --> 00:16:03.490 you look up there's no one there which isn't 00:16:03.490 --> 00:16:06.509 actually steve buscemi wearing giant boots hey 00:16:06.509 --> 00:16:11.870 fellow ghosts this is this is also the spot where 00:16:11.870 --> 00:16:14.029 ghost hunters caught what is easily the best 00:16:14.029 --> 00:16:16.509 piece of paranormal evidence i think i've ever 00:16:16.509 --> 00:16:18.570 seen i also can't show you guys because this 00:16:18.570 --> 00:16:21.759 is an audio medium but Basically, it shows a 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:23.820 figure on the catwalk coming towards the camera 00:16:23.820 --> 00:16:26.080 and then immediately darting back in the other 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:28.059 direction. If you haven't seen it, I'll post 00:16:28.059 --> 00:16:30.440 a clip up on Instagram and you guys can let me 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:31.940 know what you think because it's fucking wild. 00:16:32.500 --> 00:16:34.500 Haters will say it's fake and people can debate 00:16:34.500 --> 00:16:36.659 about whether it's actually paranormal or just 00:16:36.659 --> 00:16:40.240 some sort of like camera artifact glitch. It 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.279 doesn't matter. I like it. Yeah, that's all that 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:46.100 matters. So whatever. If it scares you, then 00:16:46.100 --> 00:16:47.899 it doesn't matter if it's fake. Honestly. Yeah. 00:16:48.019 --> 00:16:51.399 Anyways, Cell Block 12. Spooky as hell, but it 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:52.679 isn't the only part of the prison where people 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.220 claim to see movement in the form of shadows. 00:16:55.299 --> 00:16:57.480 And that brings us to the next stop on our little 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:01.320 paranormal tour, Cell Block 6. So Cell Block 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.140 6 isn't all that spooky, but it's worth mentioning 00:17:04.140 --> 00:17:07.039 because it gets brought up a lot because just 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:09.960 the sheer number of shadow figures people have 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.660 reported seeing there. Also, just how intimidating 00:17:13.660 --> 00:17:18.740 the term Cell Block 6 sounds. I think it's the 00:17:18.740 --> 00:17:22.299 three S sounds. Cell block six. It's pretty good. 00:17:23.059 --> 00:17:25.480 It sounds like you're scared to go there and 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:33.359 you're scared to say it five times fast. So visitors 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.200 walking through here report seeing dark shapes 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.500 moving along the walls of the corridor or slipping 00:17:38.500 --> 00:17:41.700 into cells. Not like full body apparitions. Just 00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:44.639 like silhouettes and shapes and shit. Usually, 00:17:44.639 --> 00:17:46.619 it's a sighting that lasts a second or two. Pretty 00:17:46.619 --> 00:17:48.680 much someone notices a movement out of the corner 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:50.599 of their eye. They turn to look at it directly, 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.559 and whatever it was is gone. Some people claim 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.700 they had seen dark figures standing briefly in 00:17:56.700 --> 00:17:58.960 the doorways of empty cells. Some say they've 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:01.380 seen them moving across the hallway. Nothing 00:18:01.380 --> 00:18:04.670 too wild, like I said, but... These reports are 00:18:04.670 --> 00:18:06.349 the reason why Cell Block 6 has the reputation 00:18:06.349 --> 00:18:09.549 it does. But sightings and spooky happenings 00:18:09.549 --> 00:18:12.109 aren't just contained to the cell blocks. Now, 00:18:12.109 --> 00:18:14.710 some of the more wild stories actually come from 00:18:14.710 --> 00:18:17.029 outside the blocks, which brings us to our next 00:18:17.029 --> 00:18:19.529 stop, the guard towers. But before we get there, 00:18:19.670 --> 00:18:23.269 Sarge, how are you feeling so far? No, sir. I 00:18:23.269 --> 00:18:25.710 don't like it. I mean, here's the thing. I do 00:18:25.710 --> 00:18:28.190 like it. And I want to go and I want to see these 00:18:28.190 --> 00:18:31.930 ghosts. But at the same time, like prison ghosts. 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:35.519 I feel like they're a little scarier. They're 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.460 different. You don't know why that ghost is in 00:18:37.460 --> 00:18:40.279 there. That's true. Is he going to try to shank 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:42.279 you or is he going to take your butthole? You 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.279 don't know until it happens. This is true. Shank 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:52.140 on both accounts. Yeah. So box six. I mean, shadow 00:18:52.140 --> 00:18:55.220 figures, whatever, dude, is if it's not choking 00:18:55.220 --> 00:18:57.220 me out, I don't care. That doesn't. Yeah. You 00:18:57.220 --> 00:19:02.440 know? Yeah. It's not a poltergeist. I found some 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:04.039 accounts of people saying they were attacked 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:05.819 there, but they were just Reddit stories and 00:19:05.819 --> 00:19:08.759 I didn't want to include. I wouldn't trust a 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:11.400 Reddit story. As far as I know, there's not a 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:14.500 lot of violent shit happening. The only one that 00:19:14.500 --> 00:19:17.420 really is scary is the guy who's stuck in the 00:19:17.420 --> 00:19:20.740 cell for a minute. That sucks ass. I would hate 00:19:20.740 --> 00:19:25.380 it. That wasn't a good one. I'm already scared 00:19:25.380 --> 00:19:28.309 of prison. Like I never, I never want to do anything 00:19:28.309 --> 00:19:31.029 that would put me in jail because I could not 00:19:31.029 --> 00:19:33.029 deal with the, with the confinement. I think 00:19:33.029 --> 00:19:34.410 you do great. But then to be trapped in there 00:19:34.410 --> 00:19:41.269 by a fucking race. Are you kidding me? Spooky 00:19:41.269 --> 00:19:44.710 ass mother. Keep you jail. That's so the, the, 00:19:44.769 --> 00:19:46.650 the locksmith story reminds me, there's a story 00:19:46.650 --> 00:19:48.930 that takes place on Mount Washington. That was 00:19:48.930 --> 00:19:51.130 somewhat similar to that. And it's crazy. Yeah. 00:19:51.190 --> 00:19:53.769 It was like a. Something in the clouds. It was 00:19:53.769 --> 00:19:56.190 like a cabin up there, like a hiker's cabin. 00:19:56.650 --> 00:19:59.309 Okay. Some guy got trapped in there and kind 00:19:59.309 --> 00:20:01.329 of the same thing happened. Not great. I'll try. 00:20:01.390 --> 00:20:03.089 I'll send you the story. Don't worry. That would 00:20:03.089 --> 00:20:05.589 be a good place to put a prison though. On the 00:20:05.589 --> 00:20:07.450 top of Mount Washington, you're not getting out 00:20:07.450 --> 00:20:10.130 of that place. Well, I mean, isn't that what 00:20:10.130 --> 00:20:11.710 the research station already is? It's pretty 00:20:11.710 --> 00:20:13.089 much prison. You're kind of just stuck there. 00:20:13.450 --> 00:20:15.549 You're going to get hypothermia whether you want 00:20:15.549 --> 00:20:18.670 it or not. Yeah. All right. So now we're at the 00:20:18.670 --> 00:20:21.400 guard towers. So over the years, there have been 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:23.539 repeated reports of people seeing a figure standing 00:20:23.539 --> 00:20:25.720 in the guard towers. Just a silhouette of someone 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.059 standing in the window. Nothing crazy. Sometimes 00:20:28.059 --> 00:20:30.500 a visitor walking around the prison will glance 00:20:30.500 --> 00:20:32.180 up and see what looks like a person watching 00:20:32.180 --> 00:20:35.099 from the tower. And when they point it out to 00:20:35.099 --> 00:20:37.099 someone else and then look back, the figure is 00:20:37.099 --> 00:20:41.619 gone. Just your standard ghost shit. But one 00:20:41.619 --> 00:20:43.160 of the more unsettling stories connected to the 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:45.299 tower involves not shadowy figures, but voices. 00:20:46.369 --> 00:20:48.730 According to Philadelphia author Charles Adams, 00:20:48.910 --> 00:20:51.029 while he was visiting Eastern State, he and a 00:20:51.029 --> 00:20:52.710 small group were near one of the towers when 00:20:52.710 --> 00:20:54.609 they heard what sounded like people talking above 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:56.789 them. Kind of like two people having a quiet 00:20:56.789 --> 00:20:59.829 conversation somewhere overhead. Yeah. So they 00:20:59.829 --> 00:21:01.890 all assumed there were just people above them. 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.920 maybe staff or like another tour group. But when 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:07.240 they went to check, it was empty. Nobody inside 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.900 and whatever voices they were hearing had completely 00:21:09.900 --> 00:21:12.920 stopped. Now, the story doesn't seem like much, 00:21:13.059 --> 00:21:15.279 but I like it because unlike the cell blocks 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:17.720 where like echoes and footsteps travel pretty 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:20.039 far and loud through the corridors, the towers 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.940 are small, very enclosed spaces. So if someone 00:21:22.940 --> 00:21:27.059 is inside them chatting it up, you know. So the 00:21:27.059 --> 00:21:29.059 fact that no one was there is kind of fucking 00:21:29.059 --> 00:21:32.309 terrifying. And hearing a ghost voice is already 00:21:32.309 --> 00:21:34.829 unsettling, but then you hear one with a Philadelphia 00:21:34.829 --> 00:21:39.190 accent. Talking about Wooter? Yeah, like, how 00:21:39.190 --> 00:21:41.109 do you talk like that? It doesn't sound right. 00:21:41.369 --> 00:21:43.170 I don't know. I don't talk like that. I'm from 00:21:43.170 --> 00:21:45.069 New Hampshire. No, you don't. You're from up 00:21:45.069 --> 00:21:48.289 here. Yeah, I'm from a real place. Not this fucking 00:21:48.289 --> 00:21:53.269 made -up La La Land. But you have to admit, the 00:21:53.269 --> 00:21:56.029 accent is slightly unsettling. And I'm coming 00:21:56.029 --> 00:21:58.240 from a place with a... terribly ugly accent. 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:00.759 I feel like the Delco accent and the Boston accent 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.079 aren't too far apart. I think I feel like there's 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:07.400 more ours involved. Maybe they're like cousins. 00:22:07.740 --> 00:22:12.880 Yeah. Kissing cousins. Sure. All right. So if 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.019 you've been to rural Pennsylvania, you'll know 00:22:15.019 --> 00:22:20.359 how true that is. Yeah. All right. So. So moving 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:23.720 on, let's talk. Let's talk Capone. As I'm sure 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:25.779 you remember from part one, Al Capone was one 00:22:25.779 --> 00:22:27.960 of the most famous inmates at Eastern State after 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:30.920 he was picked up on a weapons charge. He wasn't 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.119 there very long. Like I said last episode, he 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:34.519 was sent into a year but only ended up serving 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:36.680 about nine months. But his time there produced 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.380 one of the weirdest stories connected to the 00:22:38.380 --> 00:22:41.359 prison. According to stories that circulated 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.059 among inmates, even though Capone had basically 00:22:44.059 --> 00:22:46.299 all the amenities of a five -star hotel in his 00:22:46.299 --> 00:22:48.829 cell, He apparently wasn't sleeping too well 00:22:48.829 --> 00:22:50.910 during his stay at Eastern State because legend 00:22:50.910 --> 00:22:54.630 has it is that Capone was being haunted. Could 00:22:54.630 --> 00:22:56.410 have been a ghost. Could have been the raging 00:22:56.410 --> 00:22:59.809 syphilis. Nobody knows. We're actually going 00:22:59.809 --> 00:23:02.950 to get to that. Oh, God. More specifically, he 00:23:02.950 --> 00:23:05.150 believed he was being haunted by the ghost of 00:23:05.150 --> 00:23:07.509 a man named Jimmy. Now, depending on which version 00:23:07.509 --> 00:23:10.009 of the story you hear, Jimmy was a victim of 00:23:10.009 --> 00:23:14.390 the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. It was a gangland 00:23:14.390 --> 00:23:16.890 shooting that left seven members of a rival gang 00:23:16.890 --> 00:23:19.450 dead in Chicago on Valentine's Day. I'm sure 00:23:19.450 --> 00:23:22.670 you're familiar with it. Yes. Yeah. According 00:23:22.670 --> 00:23:24.809 to legend, Capone would wake up in the middle 00:23:24.809 --> 00:23:27.130 of the night just screaming, Jimmy, leave me 00:23:27.130 --> 00:23:32.289 alone over and over again. Now, whether this 00:23:32.289 --> 00:23:34.490 story is true or it's just something that grew 00:23:34.490 --> 00:23:37.349 over time, who knows? If it is true, was it actually 00:23:37.349 --> 00:23:40.109 paranormal? Again, who knows? Capone was dealing 00:23:40.109 --> 00:23:46.549 with untreated syphilis at the time. So he was 00:23:46.549 --> 00:23:49.289 probably already half insane. Yeah, right. Because 00:23:49.289 --> 00:23:53.230 apparently complications due to untreated syphilis 00:23:53.230 --> 00:23:55.130 isn't great. It'll fucking just rot your brain. 00:23:55.230 --> 00:23:57.569 Yeah, it ruins your brain and parts of you fall 00:23:57.569 --> 00:24:02.000 off sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, of course, 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.400 not everyone is convinced that Eastern State 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.240 is teaming with spooky specters. So before we 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:09.819 dive into, like, the skeptics argument, how are 00:24:09.819 --> 00:24:11.839 we feeling? What do you got? Any questions, concerns? 00:24:12.779 --> 00:24:17.359 Nope. I love it. I especially love Al Capone 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:20.140 being haunted. A little uneasy with the idea 00:24:20.140 --> 00:24:22.640 there being ghosts in the guardhouse, because 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:24.339 the only thing worse than a ghost is a ghost 00:24:24.339 --> 00:24:28.259 with a gun. I don't think a ghost gun would do 00:24:28.259 --> 00:24:31.000 anything to you. We don't know. This is true. 00:24:31.140 --> 00:24:32.779 I've never been shot by a spectral bullet, so. 00:24:33.700 --> 00:24:36.160 I mean, maybe thoughts and prayers would actually 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.059 have an effect on a ghost gun, though. So maybe 00:24:39.059 --> 00:24:40.779 that's why nobody's been shot. That's where all 00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:43.000 the prayers go. The only time that thoughts and 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:49.640 prayers have ever been. Not effective against 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.000 real bullets, but you got some ectoplasm bullets. 00:24:52.460 --> 00:24:55.339 100 % effective. Oh, that makes total sense. 00:24:55.779 --> 00:24:58.559 Right. All right. I think we figured it out. 00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.200 We solved it. But yeah, but not everyone is convinced 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.460 that this place is haunted. Both researchers 00:25:03.460 --> 00:25:05.660 and historians argue that a lot of the strange 00:25:05.660 --> 00:25:07.619 shit people report can actually be explained 00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:10.119 away by the building itself. And it kind of makes 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:13.220 sense. Right. The prison is built out of massive 00:25:13.220 --> 00:25:16.039 stone walls, long corridors and high vaulted 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:18.839 ceilings. They pretty much create like a wild 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.480 acoustic environment where sound can behave pretty 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:24.859 unpredictably. Voices can travel down the cell 00:25:24.859 --> 00:25:27.259 blocks. bounce off the stone surfaces. So someone 00:25:27.259 --> 00:25:29.759 talking quietly in one part of the prison can 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.660 echo down another corridor and sound like it's 00:25:31.660 --> 00:25:33.539 coming from somewhere completely different or 00:25:33.539 --> 00:25:35.380 even right next to you. It's kind of insane. 00:25:36.700 --> 00:25:38.660 Footsteps are another big one, like those metal 00:25:38.660 --> 00:25:41.880 catwalks that run along the upper tiers. It just 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.039 echoes for days because it's metal. Yeah, it 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:46.519 carries sound across long distances, making it 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:48.740 sound as though they're right there above you, 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.019 even if there isn't anyone. And it's not like 00:25:51.019 --> 00:25:53.119 people were wearing sneakers back then. Everybody's 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.160 wearing old clacky shoes. Yeah, but even now, 00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:58.420 like... What I'm saying, like walking on a catwalk 00:25:58.420 --> 00:26:02.359 in old -timey shoes. Did you say clacky shoes? 00:26:02.740 --> 00:26:04.700 Yeah, the ones that go clack, clack, clack when 00:26:04.700 --> 00:26:06.019 you walk around. Yeah, but it doesn't matter 00:26:06.019 --> 00:26:08.660 on metal. It's all going to sound the same. I 00:26:08.660 --> 00:26:10.259 don't know. Rubber shoes probably don't sound 00:26:10.259 --> 00:26:13.500 as loud. The acoustic value. Well, let's do some 00:26:13.500 --> 00:26:14.779 testing and we'll get back to you. All right. 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.380 Wind also plays a huge factor. Eastern State 00:26:18.380 --> 00:26:21.279 is preserved as a quote -unquote stabilized ruin, 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.000 which means... Parts of it are just exposed. 00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:28.440 It is true. There are parts where just shit's 00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:31.019 missing. Air is constantly moving through broken 00:26:31.019 --> 00:26:34.079 windows, gaps in the stonework, whatever. And 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.160 the result is a place that is constantly producing 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:37.819 strange sounds. It sounds like a haunted house, 00:26:37.859 --> 00:26:40.839 whether it means to or not. Yeah. Fun fact, stabilized 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:44.720 ruin is also how we refer to all of Western Massachusetts. 00:26:46.779 --> 00:26:50.519 If you don't own a property with a derelict barn 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.279 that has a tree growing out of it, you are not 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:58.960 considered a landowner. That's fair. And with 00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:02.619 this wind, like the airflow, it can slam old 00:27:02.619 --> 00:27:05.099 doors, rattle metal bars or create low hollow 00:27:05.099 --> 00:27:07.180 noises that travel all throughout the prison. 00:27:07.700 --> 00:27:11.259 And again, it's just dripping all the time. There's 00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:13.339 just water constantly. I don't know where it 00:27:13.339 --> 00:27:15.640 comes from. Yeah. Again, the prison that I stayed 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.480 in up here for that, for that army thing, same 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.400 thing. It was just constant water dropping everywhere 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:24.880 and nobody could find a, where the water was 00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.079 falling from or the puddles that were supposed 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.440 to be accumulating underneath it. Yeah. Most 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.920 old prisons are basically like the Nostromo from 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:36.400 aliens. And again, it's just wet all the time. 00:27:36.500 --> 00:27:38.019 No one knows where it's coming from. Except instead 00:27:38.019 --> 00:27:41.529 of like a, the, the alien, It's actually just 00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:47.930 Steve Buscemi covered in grease. Yeah, I don't 00:27:47.930 --> 00:27:50.829 get it, dude. It's just wet all the time. Super 00:27:50.829 --> 00:27:53.849 weird. Yeah, just gross and creepy, really. Yeah, 00:27:53.910 --> 00:27:57.930 it's awesome. I love going there. And then there's 00:27:57.930 --> 00:28:02.019 just like the psychological side of it all. places 00:28:02.019 --> 00:28:03.660 like eastern state penitentiary they already 00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:06.460 have like a pretty heavy atmosphere even before 00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:09.240 you factor in the paranormal shit like you're 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.859 walking through a decaying prison that once held 00:28:11.859 --> 00:28:14.059 thousands of inmates like you already have the 00:28:14.059 --> 00:28:15.980 stories in your head about the isolation the 00:28:15.980 --> 00:28:18.079 punishment all the mental anguish that went on 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.880 there so your brain is already primed to expect 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:24.839 something fucked up i guess yeah right and then 00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:26.799 when you enter an environment expecting something 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.890 paranormal like your perception Of that place 00:28:29.890 --> 00:28:32.390 changes like small sounds become super significant. 00:28:33.289 --> 00:28:35.710 Shadows catch your attention more easily than 00:28:35.710 --> 00:28:37.549 your mind starts looking for patterns in all 00:28:37.549 --> 00:28:40.430 of it. So every shadow, every sound, no matter 00:28:40.430 --> 00:28:43.190 how small, could be rationally explained away. 00:28:43.289 --> 00:28:45.970 But in a place like Eastern State, it always 00:28:45.970 --> 00:28:49.509 feels like something more. But who knows? Maybe 00:28:49.509 --> 00:28:51.809 it is just the architecture. Maybe it is all 00:28:51.809 --> 00:28:55.309 psychological or maybe it's ghosts. I don't know. 00:28:55.930 --> 00:28:59.839 Yeah. I mean, it could be anything. And frankly, 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.900 I don't care if it's actually ghosts or not. 00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:06.980 I'm still going to be scared. I'm going to go 00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:09.319 because I really do actually want to see this 00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:13.380 place. It's really cool. But yeah, like it doesn't 00:29:13.380 --> 00:29:15.539 make a difference at that point. Like some places, 00:29:15.579 --> 00:29:16.960 like it doesn't matter if they're haunted or 00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:18.539 not, because they're going to scare you no matter 00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:21.779 what. Yeah. But it's a really cool building. 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.599 I like it. I, for one, want to believe it's ghosts. 00:29:25.259 --> 00:29:28.539 How could you not? I want it to be ghosts. Very 00:29:28.539 --> 00:29:30.579 much so. What's crazy is that we do a show about 00:29:30.579 --> 00:29:35.640 cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, all that stuff. 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:37.559 Which, I mean, yeah, whatever. But if I were 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.140 to put all my eggs into a basket of what I truly 00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:43.279 believe exists in this world, I go ghosts every 00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.380 time. Yeah. And Mothman. Ghosts and aliens. Those 00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:48.359 are the two things that I can 100 %... Well, 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.210 obviously, I can't say that, but... that I can 00:29:51.210 --> 00:29:54.549 say that I believe 100 % do exist. I am certain 00:29:54.549 --> 00:29:57.130 aliens exist. Yes. They may not be the ones we 00:29:57.130 --> 00:29:59.849 want. They may not be the cool ones, but I think 00:29:59.849 --> 00:30:02.730 they exist. And I'm nearly certain that Mothman 00:30:02.730 --> 00:30:05.130 exists because you saw the picture I sent you 00:30:05.130 --> 00:30:08.069 last night. Unmistakable. I'll post it on my 00:30:08.069 --> 00:30:11.490 Instagram. Unmistakable. Unmistakably Mothman. 00:30:11.650 --> 00:30:18.099 And I saw that before I started drinking. in 00:30:18.099 --> 00:30:20.660 a bar next to a cemetery that gives you shots 00:30:20.660 --> 00:30:23.799 with smoke that come in a coffin yeah god come 00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.579 in a smoking coffin amazing bar by the way it's 00:30:26.579 --> 00:30:29.039 a himalayan place can't pronounce the name to 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.740 save my life there's like four a's in it um but 00:30:32.740 --> 00:30:36.039 it's i'll i'll give them a more proper shout 00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.900 out the next time i'm on but oh my god the food's 00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:43.140 amazing great atmosphere but your drinks are 00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:46.039 smoky they come in a coffin And it is directly 00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.160 across from a cemetery. And this is a weird cemetery. 00:30:48.339 --> 00:30:50.160 I've never seen this before. There's lights. 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:54.039 People just put lights on people's graves. Like 00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.240 I would expect that in Halloween, but it's like 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.099 March, you know? No, I feel like I've seen that 00:30:59.099 --> 00:31:02.960 before too. And I might be wrong. And I might 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.660 just be making this up, but I'm pretty sure some 00:31:05.660 --> 00:31:07.619 of those are like a religious thing. It could 00:31:07.619 --> 00:31:10.460 be, yeah. I don't doubt that for a second. But 00:31:10.460 --> 00:31:13.220 it was also exceptionally spooky because I walked 00:31:13.220 --> 00:31:17.000 there. So I'm walking by the cemetery. What the 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.599 fuck are all these orbs doing around? There's 00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:23.859 like fog lifting up off the cemetery. Yeah. Horrifying. 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:28.019 Oh, I'm sure it's a nightmare. I loved it. I 00:31:28.019 --> 00:31:30.400 didn't go in the cemetery, but I loved it. You 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.579 should have gone to the cemetery. No. Well, maybe 00:31:32.579 --> 00:31:35.680 next time. But yeah, I don't know. Ghosts. Definitely. 00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.220 I believe 100. But like, no, I feel like ghosts 00:31:38.220 --> 00:31:40.359 aren't. Well, we'll get into it another time. 00:31:40.420 --> 00:31:42.900 I'm not going to do it now. It'll be a debate. 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.980 but I also believe in ghosts and aliens. It's 00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:50.079 not a debate. I just think, I don't think ghosts 00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.259 are like the souls of a fucking person. Like 00:31:52.259 --> 00:31:55.299 that's. Yeah. I don't necessarily believe that 00:31:55.299 --> 00:31:57.579 either. I think there's, there's, there's like 00:31:57.579 --> 00:31:59.480 a whole, we should do an episode where we just 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.880 go over our theories on, on ghosts. That would 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:03.720 be kind of funny. Actually. I do kind of like 00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.599 that idea. We just don't prepare anything. It 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.339 just started going. We just started talking about 00:32:07.339 --> 00:32:09.619 it. Maybe a bonus episode though. Cause it could 00:32:09.619 --> 00:32:11.720 go off the reels real, real fast. No, we'll just 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:15.079 do it straight up for, We should do it at night 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.460 on like the night before a Monday holiday. So 00:32:18.460 --> 00:32:22.500 we can just get shit faced. I vibe with that. 00:32:22.619 --> 00:32:25.619 I like that. Yeah. It could be a real long episode 00:32:25.619 --> 00:32:27.859 or a real short episode, but it'll be a real 00:32:27.859 --> 00:32:29.579 funny episode no matter what. It'll be good. 00:32:30.180 --> 00:32:32.180 All right. Sorry. So yeah. So that's a Eastern 00:32:32.180 --> 00:32:35.180 state, the hauntings, I guess, or not so much 00:32:35.180 --> 00:32:37.000 the haunting, but like the stories of the hot, 00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:40.960 like the suspected hauntings, potential hauntings. 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.970 Yeah. And, um, I think that's it. That's all 00:32:43.970 --> 00:32:47.210 I got. Oh, I love it. Yeah. I want it to be true. 00:32:47.269 --> 00:32:50.029 So bad. So do I, I do. I believe they're true. 00:32:50.150 --> 00:32:52.150 That's why I've gone there like four times. So 00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:54.849 yeah, it sounds awesome. I really want to go. 00:32:54.950 --> 00:32:58.630 Yeah. Uh, all right. So I guess, thank you so 00:32:58.630 --> 00:33:00.690 much for listening everyone. Um, and if you guys 00:33:00.690 --> 00:33:02.329 got any stories about Eastern state that you 00:33:02.329 --> 00:33:05.430 think we should know, send them to cryptic cocktail, 00:33:05.509 --> 00:33:08.769 gmail .com. Maybe we'll do a followup with listener 00:33:08.769 --> 00:33:10.670 stories or experiences or something like that. 00:33:11.349 --> 00:33:13.640 Um, yeah. Sarge, you got anything you want to 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.940 plug before we do the whole wrap up? No, nothing 00:33:16.940 --> 00:33:20.559 too crazy. I'll put the picture of Mothman on 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.380 my Instagram. You tell me what you see. Okay. 00:33:24.180 --> 00:33:27.299 And thank you all again for the love. I appreciate 00:33:27.299 --> 00:33:30.819 it. I just got a promotion at work, so it's been 00:33:30.819 --> 00:33:32.859 a celebratory week for me. Oh, look at that, 00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:35.660 bud, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Working hard for four 00:33:35.660 --> 00:33:40.880 years. Finally. One step above where I was. You're 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:42.880 appreciated in all aspects of your life, bud. 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.640 It's been a great week. I love that for you. 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:51.140 All right. All right. So to the audience, goodbye. 00:33:52.059 --> 00:33:53.740 And I love you. We haven't gotten there yet, 00:33:53.779 --> 00:33:57.019 Sarge. Son of a bitch. You know, I take back 00:33:57.019 --> 00:33:58.660 that post. I'm deleting. I thought it was a good 00:33:58.660 --> 00:34:00.880 segue. I'm deleting that post. I fucked it all 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.960 up, Dave. You're no longer appreciated. Real 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.599 quick. Follow us on Instagram, Crypto Cocktail. 00:34:06.619 --> 00:34:08.739 Follow us on TikTok, Crypto Cocktail Party. 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