WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.200 you are now listening to cryptid cocktail party 00:00:40.469 --> 00:00:42.409 Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of 00:00:42.409 --> 00:00:44.130 Crypto Cocktail Party, a show where we have a 00:00:44.130 --> 00:00:46.090 few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into 00:00:46.090 --> 00:00:47.570 the unknown. I'm your host, Dave. Unfortunately, 00:00:48.009 --> 00:00:50.090 Sarge cannot be here today. He is stuck in the 00:00:50.090 --> 00:00:53.170 Lone Star State. So I have a special guest lined 00:00:53.170 --> 00:00:55.869 up to take his place, and that is my good friend 00:00:55.869 --> 00:00:57.869 Dipper from Killed by a Yeti. How you doing, 00:00:57.929 --> 00:00:59.590 buddy? I'm doing good. How are you doing, man? 00:00:59.729 --> 00:01:01.670 I'm doing fantastic. I'm so glad you're here. 00:01:01.729 --> 00:01:03.509 I'm happy we could finally do this again. Me 00:01:03.509 --> 00:01:05.709 too. I love coming on here. I love this show. 00:01:05.790 --> 00:01:07.469 It's great. Yeah. So what's new? What's new in 00:01:07.469 --> 00:01:11.030 your world? What's going on with you? We just 00:01:11.030 --> 00:01:13.230 released a new album. You did, and it fucking 00:01:13.230 --> 00:01:15.590 rips, dude. Dude, thank you. And that has the 00:01:15.590 --> 00:01:17.549 voice actor of Chowder on it, so that's cool. 00:01:17.670 --> 00:01:19.650 I love that album. It's my favorite so far. Yeah, 00:01:19.730 --> 00:01:25.109 it's really good. Thank you. I'm going to be 00:01:25.109 --> 00:01:26.969 honest. I did get a sneak peek of it before it 00:01:26.969 --> 00:01:29.969 came out, so I may be biased. It took everything 00:01:29.969 --> 00:01:33.760 in me to not talk about it to people. You're 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:34.840 like, you should listen to this. You're like, 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:37.120 oh, wait, you can't. Yeah. You know, it feels 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:39.040 good to be in the know about things that other 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:40.840 people aren't in the know about. You know, I 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.560 feel honored and blessed to have been given that 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:44.939 opportunity. It makes you feel special. It really 00:01:44.939 --> 00:01:46.519 does. You're like, hey, you want me to listen 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:48.819 to my new song? Yeah. Did Gabe send it to you? 00:01:49.140 --> 00:01:52.280 Yeah. Of course he did. I would have sent it 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:54.379 to you, but he has more access than I do to things. 00:01:54.540 --> 00:01:56.659 I think he was just eager to have people listen 00:01:56.659 --> 00:01:59.859 to it before it came out. yeah we were we all 00:01:59.859 --> 00:02:02.799 we all were we were so pumped on that album it 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.400 turned out good yeah it was uh it's really really 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:07.219 good uh but we'll talk about at the end you can 00:02:07.219 --> 00:02:09.180 plug it more we'll you know maybe tell the people 00:02:09.180 --> 00:02:13.379 what it's called you got it uh all right so dipper 00:02:13.379 --> 00:02:15.259 i already know the answer to this uh you're a 00:02:15.259 --> 00:02:19.520 cryptids guy right yes i love them okay fun are 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.229 you a true crime guy I like true crime. I married 00:02:23.229 --> 00:02:26.629 a goth girl. So, you know, it's guilty by association 00:02:26.629 --> 00:02:29.930 with goth girls. So true crime is just there 00:02:29.930 --> 00:02:32.129 and I do enjoy it. Okay. All right. Well, what 00:02:32.129 --> 00:02:34.909 if I say today's story is kind of like a combination 00:02:34.909 --> 00:02:38.129 of the two? Does that make sense? I'd be stoked. 00:02:38.330 --> 00:02:39.490 Would that pique your interest? Give it to me. 00:02:39.629 --> 00:02:42.530 All right. It would pique my interest very much. 00:02:42.729 --> 00:02:44.669 All right, Dipper. So this week, we are headed 00:02:44.669 --> 00:02:46.990 to beautiful Northern California, but not like 00:02:46.990 --> 00:02:49.490 the fun version with like wine tastings, hikes 00:02:49.490 --> 00:02:51.689 through the redwoods, and tech bros doing ayahuasca. 00:02:51.849 --> 00:02:53.789 We are heading deep into what's known as the 00:02:53.789 --> 00:02:56.509 Emerald Triangle, which for those of you who 00:02:56.509 --> 00:02:58.770 may be unfamiliar, this is like a remote, heavily 00:02:58.770 --> 00:03:01.750 forested region that for decades was one of the 00:03:01.750 --> 00:03:04.639 biggest illegal weed production areas. In the 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.560 country, rugged terrain, not many roads in or 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:10.400 out, lots of money and guns and spattered with 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.960 folks that aren't too keen on outsiders or the 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:18.240 law. It's kind of like the perfect place to have 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:21.280 an illegal grow operation. So this is where we're 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.280 going to be today and where our story begins. 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.219 Are you familiar with the Emerald Triangle at 00:03:25.219 --> 00:03:30.520 all? You just blew my mind about a whole weed 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:36.439 operation. Let's go. All right. So in 1993, three 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.319 men on a remote grow site in Mondesino County 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:41.800 were allegedly, which is a word you're going 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:44.300 to hear a lot throughout this episode. So be 00:03:44.300 --> 00:03:46.840 ready. They were allegedly found dead in the 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.039 woods and not like a someone shot them for trying 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.020 to raid their crops and then dumped in the woods 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:55.199 kind of way. The rumors were that these men were 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.979 torn apart limb from limb type shit. And the 00:03:57.979 --> 00:04:01.080 explanation. people gave as to who or what could 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.180 have done something so heinous wasn't some rival 00:04:03.180 --> 00:04:06.400 crew or robbery gone bad word around town was 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:14.219 that the perpetrator was in fact bigfoot semantics 00:04:14.219 --> 00:04:20.920 aside that's that's a movie i want to see all 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:23.579 right so this is kind of this i don't know how 00:04:23.579 --> 00:04:25.620 well known this story is i mean it's pretty kind 00:04:25.620 --> 00:04:27.300 of well but you're not familiar with the bigfoot 00:04:27.300 --> 00:04:30.019 murders No, I'm not, actually. And this is this 00:04:30.019 --> 00:04:32.759 is brand new. So I'm I'm glad I came out with 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.259 this, but not knowing shit. So I assume you're 00:04:36.259 --> 00:04:39.000 ready to dive in to the story. Oh, hell yeah. 00:04:39.139 --> 00:04:43.100 OK, so allegedly there's that word again. Sometime 00:04:43.100 --> 00:04:46.300 in the fall of 1993, three men working on a remote 00:04:46.300 --> 00:04:49.139 grow site off of Spy Rock Road in Mendocino County 00:04:49.139 --> 00:04:51.540 were found dead out in the woods by some neighboring 00:04:51.540 --> 00:04:54.519 growers. Not too uncommon, but not super common 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:58.129 either. But this is. An area that at the time 00:04:58.129 --> 00:04:59.990 was already known for being pretty isolated, 00:05:00.170 --> 00:05:02.310 paranoid, and not exactly welcoming of strangers. 00:05:02.649 --> 00:05:05.509 What makes this story different than just like 00:05:05.509 --> 00:05:07.430 your typical grower on grower violence was the 00:05:07.430 --> 00:05:09.430 manner in which they were killed. Normally you 00:05:09.430 --> 00:05:11.250 would think shooting, stabbing, hit over the 00:05:11.250 --> 00:05:14.449 head with a large branch. Unfortunately, these 00:05:14.449 --> 00:05:17.269 dudes weren't so lucky. According to accounts, 00:05:17.449 --> 00:05:18.990 these dudes were straight up mutilated. Their 00:05:18.990 --> 00:05:20.850 bodies were torn to shreds, their limbs were 00:05:20.850 --> 00:05:22.810 ripped off, and then scattered around the site. 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:25.420 Growing equipment and plants were knocked over 00:05:25.420 --> 00:05:27.439 and destroyed. But what's weird is that none 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.579 of the weed was missing. In this area, weed is 00:05:30.579 --> 00:05:32.399 serious money. So if this had been a robbery 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.899 or a raid from a rival crew, you would have expected 00:05:34.899 --> 00:05:38.279 that crop to be just straight up gone. But it 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.500 was left behind, which just added to how bizarre 00:05:40.500 --> 00:05:43.540 and unsettling the scene was. And again, just 00:05:43.540 --> 00:05:45.560 to be clear, everything up to this point is alleged. 00:05:45.819 --> 00:05:48.699 I just want to make that clear. Clear again real 00:05:48.699 --> 00:05:51.019 quick, because this next part is where the story 00:05:51.019 --> 00:05:53.860 actually starts to become documented, all thanks 00:05:53.860 --> 00:05:56.060 to a chance encounter between a journalist and 00:05:56.060 --> 00:05:58.220 the men who say they discovered the scene. So 00:05:58.220 --> 00:06:02.019 according to journalist David Holthaus, on the 00:06:02.019 --> 00:06:04.779 night that this all happened, two men from a 00:06:04.779 --> 00:06:06.800 neighboring grow site showed up at a cabin he 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.120 happened to be staying at. It's important to 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:10.860 note he wasn't working as a journalist then. 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:13.360 He was just some 20 -something -year -old fresh 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.519 out of college. Just dude in the woods. Yeah, 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:19.079 he was like bouncing around odd jobs writing 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.399 and then like occasionally weed adjacent jobs. 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:26.279 So yeah, so they show up at his cabin panicked 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.540 visibly shaken and barely coherent. They told 00:06:29.540 --> 00:06:31.740 him that they had stumbled onto three bodies 00:06:31.740 --> 00:06:34.410 in the woods and whatever did this to them. wasn't 00:06:34.410 --> 00:06:36.910 human they told them about massive footprints 00:06:36.910 --> 00:06:39.490 in the mud strange sounds in the trees and something 00:06:39.490 --> 00:06:42.149 large moving through the forest just out of sight 00:06:42.149 --> 00:06:45.170 and then they flat out just told them it was 00:06:45.170 --> 00:06:52.069 bigfoot and uh and uh at the whole house the 00:06:52.069 --> 00:06:53.810 men weren't joking or exaggerating like they 00:06:53.810 --> 00:06:57.079 to him they seem genuinely terrified But after 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:59.120 that night, nothing followed. There was no police 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.540 reports. No one was called. No investigation 00:07:01.540 --> 00:07:04.019 ever started, which I mean, yeah, it's an illegal 00:07:04.019 --> 00:07:06.959 grow up. Like calling the cops just because you 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:08.540 found a couple bodies shredded up like pulled 00:07:08.540 --> 00:07:10.920 pork is basically like calling them calling in 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.259 your own raid. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.360 Hey, I found these bodies, but don't worry about 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.120 the grow field in the back. Like they would just 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:20.660 like look over that. Like I mean, I guess murder 00:07:20.660 --> 00:07:23.779 is worse than. Maybe not in 1993. I feel like 00:07:23.779 --> 00:07:25.500 that was like the height of the war on drugs. 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:27.399 Like you would have been fucked. They wouldn't 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:29.339 have overlooked one for the other. They would 00:07:29.339 --> 00:07:31.120 have skipped over the dead bodies and just moved 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:33.620 over to the weed. Probably. And actually, that's 00:07:33.620 --> 00:07:35.620 probably truer than you think for reasons we'll 00:07:35.620 --> 00:07:39.360 get into coming up. Yeah. So instead of law enforcement 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.779 getting involved, the story stayed where it happened. 00:07:41.860 --> 00:07:43.980 Among the people living and working there passed 00:07:43.980 --> 00:07:46.300 around from grower to grower, neighbor to neighbor. 00:07:46.500 --> 00:07:48.279 And as far as the outside world was concerned. 00:07:48.910 --> 00:07:50.829 Nothing happened. Again, there was no police 00:07:50.829 --> 00:07:53.610 reports, no missing persons, no body, no crime 00:07:53.610 --> 00:07:56.490 scene. And inside the Emerald Triangle, people 00:07:56.490 --> 00:07:59.569 knew something violent had gone down. But why 00:07:59.569 --> 00:08:01.569 did they jump to the conclusion that it was Bigfoot? 00:08:01.629 --> 00:08:05.430 Like, where did that even come from? Do you want 00:08:05.430 --> 00:08:07.589 to venture any guesses? I mean, I don't know 00:08:07.589 --> 00:08:10.269 how prominent mountain lions or some sort of 00:08:10.269 --> 00:08:14.990 big cat are out there, you know, or a wolf, like, 00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:19.819 you know, a bear. It is California. It is bear 00:08:19.819 --> 00:08:22.000 country. Like that's the biggest thing that comes 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.040 to mind. I was like, yeah, they were shredded 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:25.720 to pieces. I was like, yeah, do you know how 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:30.399 big a bear is? I mean, bear is valid. I honestly 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:31.939 should have probably looked into some of the 00:08:31.939 --> 00:08:34.960 more, some more of the nature that's in that 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:38.639 area. I didn't. I could be wrong because I don't 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:41.259 know if bears are up there. Yeah, that's true. 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:43.700 Well, as I'm sure. A lot of people listening 00:08:43.700 --> 00:08:45.320 know, and I'm sure you know, you probably just 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:47.059 didn't put this together right away, is that 00:08:47.059 --> 00:08:50.340 Northern California, especially up around Bondesino, 00:08:50.539 --> 00:08:53.480 Humboldt, and Trinity counties, this has been 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.179 like steeped in Bigfoot lore for almost forever. 00:08:56.379 --> 00:08:58.279 It's the same region where the Patterson -Gimlin 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:01.460 footage was filmed back in like the 60s. There's 00:09:01.460 --> 00:09:03.659 also like roadside Bigfoot statues, museums, 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.039 gift shops, you name it. And if you grew up around 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.620 or lived in those woods long enough, Bigfoot 00:09:08.620 --> 00:09:12.190 was just kind of part of your life. And honestly, 00:09:12.289 --> 00:09:14.070 the woods do a lot of that heavy lifting for 00:09:14.070 --> 00:09:15.850 you, too. Like the forests there are fucking 00:09:15.850 --> 00:09:18.929 ancient. They got massive redwoods, thick canopies. 00:09:19.250 --> 00:09:21.049 It's pretty much dark there in the middle of 00:09:21.049 --> 00:09:24.250 the day. Sound travels. That's cool as fuck, 00:09:24.250 --> 00:09:26.909 though. Yeah. Distances are hard to judge and 00:09:26.909 --> 00:09:28.649 you can hear shit moving around you and have 00:09:28.649 --> 00:09:31.190 absolutely no idea what it is or where it is. 00:09:31.250 --> 00:09:32.909 So even and even people that like don't believe 00:09:32.909 --> 00:09:35.570 in Bigfoot will tell you the woods up there just 00:09:35.570 --> 00:09:40.360 kind of feel a little off. I guess. So when you 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:43.220 combine all that with extreme isolation, armed 00:09:43.220 --> 00:09:45.759 paranoid growth sites, people already on edge 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.539 from raids and a brutal unexplained act of violence, 00:09:48.700 --> 00:09:52.340 Bigfoot becomes an easy answer. It also happens 00:09:52.340 --> 00:09:55.159 to be a safe answer because blaming a cryptid 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:57.379 doesn't get anyone arrested. It doesn't start 00:09:57.379 --> 00:10:00.039 a war with a neighboring grow and doesn't force 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.139 you to name a killer who might still be living 00:10:02.139 --> 00:10:04.440 20 minutes up the mountain with an AR -15 and 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:08.889 a meth problem. Does that make sense? Just blame 00:10:08.889 --> 00:10:11.110 Bigfoot. Just blame Bigfoot. Just blame Bigfoot. 00:10:11.389 --> 00:10:14.090 Jeff won't come down the hill and murder us all. 00:10:14.190 --> 00:10:18.450 Kind of, yeah. That's kind of the thing. So whether 00:10:18.450 --> 00:10:20.750 the men that told the story truly believed it 00:10:20.750 --> 00:10:22.509 was Bigfoot or whether they just didn't want 00:10:22.509 --> 00:10:25.409 to accuse a very real human being that could 00:10:25.409 --> 00:10:27.929 potentially do the same to them, the result was 00:10:27.929 --> 00:10:30.309 the same. Saying Bigfoot did it shut the conversation 00:10:30.309 --> 00:10:33.190 down. And in a place like Spirock in the 90s, 00:10:33.549 --> 00:10:35.509 Shutting the conversation down can be the difference 00:10:35.509 --> 00:10:37.710 between staying alive or being quote unquote 00:10:37.710 --> 00:10:42.350 Bigfoot's next victim. But but yeah, for decades, 00:10:42.509 --> 00:10:44.669 that's where the story stayed. Just kind of like 00:10:44.669 --> 00:10:46.889 a fucked up rumor that Bigfoot went medieval 00:10:46.889 --> 00:10:48.950 on three dudes in the mountains. You know what 00:10:48.950 --> 00:10:51.529 it is? It's like they caught Bigfoot in a stash 00:10:51.529 --> 00:10:53.029 and they didn't know it was Bigfoot. And they're 00:10:53.029 --> 00:10:55.169 like, hey. And he's like, it was a bad move, 00:10:55.269 --> 00:10:56.850 guys. I'm going to kill you now. And then he 00:10:56.850 --> 00:10:59.090 killed them and took a little bit of weed. He 00:10:59.090 --> 00:11:02.299 at least took like, you know, just. Just maybe 00:11:02.299 --> 00:11:04.879 like an ape with him. Yeah. Maybe like a planter. 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:07.120 I feel like you won't miss a planter too in an 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.659 operation like this. But how are we feeling so 00:11:09.659 --> 00:11:13.519 far on the story before we go any further? Whether 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:15.820 it's real or not, it's a fun story. Regardless, 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.799 it's a fun story. That's a fun story. And it 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:20.419 gets funner, kind of. Not really. It kind of 00:11:20.419 --> 00:11:22.100 gets sad. But then it gets funner again, maybe. 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.379 I don't know. We'll figure it out. It's a roller 00:11:24.379 --> 00:11:26.620 coaster. Yeah. But that night, all the way back. 00:11:27.129 --> 00:11:30.309 in 1993. And that story was stuck in the back 00:11:30.309 --> 00:11:32.269 of the mind of the man who had heard about it 00:11:32.269 --> 00:11:34.929 way back when it first happened, David Halthouse. 00:11:35.009 --> 00:11:37.850 Now, by now, he isn't some broke 20 -something 00:11:37.850 --> 00:11:40.129 crashing in a cabin anymore. He's gone on to 00:11:40.129 --> 00:11:42.690 become an investigative journalist covering extremist 00:11:42.690 --> 00:11:45.350 groups, outlaw subculture, and violent underground 00:11:45.350 --> 00:11:47.549 worlds. And the more time he spent reporting 00:11:47.549 --> 00:11:49.490 on these kinds of environments, the more the 00:11:49.490 --> 00:11:53.570 1993 story kind of started eating at him. Because 00:11:53.570 --> 00:11:55.250 the thing is, once you've seen and reported on 00:11:55.250 --> 00:11:57.029 enough real violence like he has, you start to 00:11:57.029 --> 00:11:59.289 recognize a pattern. And the whole quote unquote 00:11:59.289 --> 00:12:02.129 Bigfoot tore three men apart story didn't really 00:12:02.129 --> 00:12:05.690 jive with him anymore as he got older. Like it 00:12:05.690 --> 00:12:07.190 didn't sound like folklore or whatever you want 00:12:07.190 --> 00:12:09.389 to call it to him anymore. It sounded like misdirection. 00:12:09.830 --> 00:12:12.710 So he went back to Mendocino County decades later 00:12:12.710 --> 00:12:15.029 and started asking questions. Carefully, of course, 00:12:15.110 --> 00:12:18.039 dude wasn't trying to be next. You know what 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.580 I mean? While you ask him questions. Yeah. He 00:12:20.580 --> 00:12:22.240 just wanted to get to the bottom of what really 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.799 happened. And this reinvestigation eventually 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.039 became the Hulu docuseries Sasquatch. Did you 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.440 ever see that? No. I've seen it, though. Every 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.440 time I go through Hulu, I'm like, is it worth 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.919 my time? Have you seen it? I have. It's really 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.960 good. I should watch it then. Yeah. It starts 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:40.559 out like it's going to be like a cryptid mystery. 00:12:40.820 --> 00:12:43.059 Like the interviews, like Bigfoot researchers, 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.860 they talk about sightings. typical Squatch documentary 00:12:46.860 --> 00:12:49.059 type shit, but it doesn't stay that way for long. 00:12:49.259 --> 00:12:51.399 That's sick. Okay, cool. Yeah, because the deeper 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:55.299 Hull House dug, the mystery really isn't Bigfoot. 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:57.419 It was why nobody ever talked about the very 00:12:57.419 --> 00:13:00.080 real human beings up there. And as Hull House 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:01.980 started to track down and talk to old growers, 00:13:02.179 --> 00:13:04.220 former camp officers, and people who had been 00:13:04.220 --> 00:13:06.899 around Spy Rock in the 90s, a different picture 00:13:06.899 --> 00:13:10.240 started to kind of form, one that had nothing 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:12.059 to do with folkloric beasts in the woods, but 00:13:12.059 --> 00:13:14.690 more to do with money, violence, and power. all 00:13:14.690 --> 00:13:17.289 connected to the illegal weed trade, obviously. 00:13:18.389 --> 00:13:21.610 That makes sense. Yeah, and for anyone wondering, 00:13:21.690 --> 00:13:23.610 when I say camp officer, I don't mean like a 00:13:23.610 --> 00:13:26.669 security guard at a campground. Camp stands for 00:13:26.669 --> 00:13:29.649 Campaign Against Marijuana Planning, which was 00:13:29.649 --> 00:13:32.029 a joint state and federal task force that would 00:13:32.029 --> 00:13:34.769 drop into the woods by helicopter during the 00:13:34.769 --> 00:13:39.269 fall and summer and raid grow sites. You know, 00:13:39.289 --> 00:13:41.850 that's a normal thing that we do. Yeah, it's 00:13:41.850 --> 00:13:45.330 a normal thing. I just wanted to clarify, so 00:13:45.330 --> 00:13:48.110 if anyone wanted to know what camp meant. So 00:13:48.110 --> 00:13:50.350 yeah, so once Hothouse started to peel back the 00:13:50.350 --> 00:13:53.129 layers, the Bigfoot explanation fell apart pretty 00:13:53.129 --> 00:13:55.710 fast. How it took them several decades to get 00:13:55.710 --> 00:13:59.909 there, I don't know. The first thing you learned 00:13:59.909 --> 00:14:02.169 was who the victims were, and this is where the 00:14:02.169 --> 00:14:06.769 episode gets... kind of topical uh they weren't 00:14:06.769 --> 00:14:09.330 random drifters or rival kingpins they were mexican 00:14:09.330 --> 00:14:12.090 migrant workers just laborers working the grow 00:14:12.090 --> 00:14:14.669 site these were the people who did the hardest 00:14:14.669 --> 00:14:16.830 and most dangerous work but had the least power 00:14:16.830 --> 00:14:19.649 when shit went sideways and that fact is important 00:14:19.649 --> 00:14:22.590 in the early 90s the illegal weed trade wasn't 00:14:22.590 --> 00:14:25.889 some chill communal hippie operation like i'm 00:14:25.889 --> 00:14:28.759 sure it was at one point It was all about money. 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.440 And with that came biker gangs, armed growers, 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.360 territorial disputes, and a very clear hierarchy. 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.179 And way down at the bottom of that hierarchy 00:14:37.179 --> 00:14:40.220 were the migrant workers. So once Holstead discovered 00:14:40.220 --> 00:14:42.659 the identity of the victims, it started to make 00:14:42.659 --> 00:14:44.940 a lot more sense. The men who were killed weren't 00:14:44.940 --> 00:14:46.620 the people that owned the land or the people 00:14:46.620 --> 00:14:48.539 running the operation. They were migrants. They 00:14:48.539 --> 00:14:50.879 were temporary, paid in cash, often undocumented, 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:53.720 and with the least protections. And if anything 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:56.700 happens to them... There isn't like a clean path 00:14:56.700 --> 00:14:59.940 to report it. Can't go to the cops. Their employer 00:14:59.940 --> 00:15:02.340 for sure isn't calling the cops. Their families 00:15:02.340 --> 00:15:04.519 are hundreds, if not thousands of miles away. 00:15:04.700 --> 00:15:06.720 And the other migrant workers working alongside 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.259 them aren't going to open their mouths because 00:15:08.259 --> 00:15:11.220 doing so could put their names next on the list. 00:15:11.299 --> 00:15:14.200 So when these three men were killed, the system 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.600 was already set in place to let it just kind 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:19.779 of vanish, if that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, 00:15:19.779 --> 00:15:21.360 it's the easiest way to get rid of the problem, 00:15:21.500 --> 00:15:23.500 blame it on something that doesn't exist and 00:15:23.500 --> 00:15:25.820 just move past it. Yeah. And as Halstead learned, 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:27.639 violence like this wasn't out of the ordinary. 00:15:27.740 --> 00:15:29.659 People went missing. People got hurt. People 00:15:29.659 --> 00:15:31.860 got torn into pieces and scattered around the 00:15:31.860 --> 00:15:34.139 woods like human confetti. And most of the time, 00:15:34.139 --> 00:15:36.279 the news never made it past the tree line. It 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:38.419 became just another thing that everyone knew 00:15:38.419 --> 00:15:41.320 about, but never talked about. And that's where 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.419 this story shifts from victims. to power violence 00:15:44.419 --> 00:15:46.679 like this doesn't happen in a vacuum it happens 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.580 in a system and in the emerald triangle systems 00:15:49.580 --> 00:15:51.720 are enforced by people who sit at the top not 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:53.820 at the bottom and once whole house started asking 00:15:53.820 --> 00:15:56.600 who controlled the area one name kept coming 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.620 up a local grower and heavy hitter known by the 00:15:59.620 --> 00:16:03.759 name can you guess what his name is no bigfoot 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:11.279 gary are you serious So Bigfoot did kill them 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:15.139 technically. It makes sense now. Okay. Multiple 00:16:15.139 --> 00:16:17.480 sources told Halthouse that the description of 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:19.620 the murders fit him. Even former law enforcement 00:16:19.620 --> 00:16:21.539 admitted that the rumor, quote unquote, sounded 00:16:21.539 --> 00:16:24.860 like Gary. Now, at this point, Halthouse even 00:16:24.860 --> 00:16:26.879 started questioning his own memory of that night 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.159 in 1993. Did the men who told him the story say 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.059 Bigfoot killed them? Or did they say Bigfoot 00:16:33.059 --> 00:16:36.019 Gary killed them? And that distinction matters 00:16:36.019 --> 00:16:37.940 because if the killer had a nickname like that, 00:16:38.019 --> 00:16:40.240 it's not hard to see how the story could go from 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.960 Bigfoot Gary killed these guys to Bigfoot killed 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:48.120 these guys. You are okay. This is an amazing 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:50.600 story. This is like an, this is like better than 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:52.779 an M night Shyamalan ding dong twist. Like, you 00:16:52.779 --> 00:16:56.559 know, his name was Bigfoot Gary. Dun, dun, dun. 00:16:59.340 --> 00:17:01.779 it's pretty good it's pretty wild yeah it's good 00:17:01.779 --> 00:17:04.240 it's a good i like this story yeah uh whole house 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:06.299 eventually tracked gary down and confronted him 00:17:06.299 --> 00:17:08.720 but gary denied any involvement because why the 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:11.220 fuck would he admit to some random journalist 00:17:11.220 --> 00:17:14.140 that he literally tore three dudes apart yeah 00:17:14.140 --> 00:17:16.660 i was just out in the woods you know just tearing 00:17:16.660 --> 00:17:18.359 some of the workers apart it was just telling 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:20.460 some you know what i did on the daily just just 00:17:20.460 --> 00:17:24.569 part of my day -to -day But based on all the 00:17:24.569 --> 00:17:27.009 evidence, anonymous calls, off -the -record conversations, 00:17:27.250 --> 00:17:29.289 and people who were very careful about what they 00:17:29.289 --> 00:17:31.990 would and wouldn't say, it became clear to Hothouse 00:17:31.990 --> 00:17:34.369 that these killings were deliberate. I mean, 00:17:34.410 --> 00:17:37.069 they would have to be. You don't just rip someone's 00:17:37.069 --> 00:17:40.410 limbs off by accident. But no, in the sense that 00:17:40.410 --> 00:17:42.970 it was a planned hit to assert power, control, 00:17:43.049 --> 00:17:45.930 and fear. And the brutality of it all wasn't 00:17:45.930 --> 00:17:47.750 even the point. It was the message it sent. You 00:17:47.750 --> 00:17:50.450 leave the bodies, don't take the weed, let everyone 00:17:50.450 --> 00:17:52.910 see what happens when you fuck with... The wrong 00:17:52.910 --> 00:18:00.869 people. Big fuck Gary. Yeah. So obviously the 00:18:00.869 --> 00:18:03.190 story isn't about Bigfoot or cryptids. It's just 00:18:03.190 --> 00:18:05.549 kind of fun. Not really fun. You know what I 00:18:05.549 --> 00:18:07.549 mean. But the reason I wanted to cover the story 00:18:07.549 --> 00:18:09.670 is because it's about what cryptids and monsters 00:18:09.670 --> 00:18:12.250 are used for in places where the truth is dangerous. 00:18:12.690 --> 00:18:14.809 This isn't the only time a monster has been blamed 00:18:14.809 --> 00:18:17.369 for something very human. In a lot of isolated 00:18:17.369 --> 00:18:19.269 communities, especially ones built around illegal 00:18:19.269 --> 00:18:22.250 activity, folklore can kind of act as a camouflage. 00:18:22.390 --> 00:18:24.970 It gives people a way to explain violence without 00:18:24.970 --> 00:18:27.190 pointing at someone who could hurt them back. 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:29.720 Blaming a cryptid doesn't get anyone arrested. 00:18:29.900 --> 00:18:32.119 It doesn't lead to retaliation. It doesn't invite 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.559 cops or reporters. It lets people acknowledge 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:37.079 that something fucked up happened without having 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:38.980 to say who did it, even if they probably all 00:18:38.980 --> 00:18:42.980 know who did. Does that make sense? Yeah. And 00:18:42.980 --> 00:18:45.900 this isn't unique. This isn't unique to Northern 00:18:45.900 --> 00:18:47.759 California. You see versions of this everywhere. 00:18:49.289 --> 00:18:51.670 Appalachian ghost stories used to keep people 00:18:51.670 --> 00:18:54.450 off moonshine trails, shit like that. Alaskan 00:18:54.450 --> 00:18:56.890 villages would blame disappearances on wild men 00:18:56.890 --> 00:19:00.190 in the woods. And in Mendocino County, Bigfoot 00:19:00.190 --> 00:19:01.890 was already a huge part of the culture there. 00:19:02.049 --> 00:19:05.250 So it was all right there. So when three men 00:19:05.250 --> 00:19:07.029 were brutally killed and nobody could safely 00:19:07.029 --> 00:19:09.369 talk about it, the myth was there waiting to 00:19:09.369 --> 00:19:11.049 be used. Whether the people spreading the story 00:19:11.049 --> 00:19:13.420 truly believes it or not. It really doesn't matter 00:19:13.420 --> 00:19:17.059 because the result was the same. A real crime 00:19:17.059 --> 00:19:19.359 got buried under a legend. And once that happens, 00:19:19.460 --> 00:19:21.460 the story takes on a life of its own. It turns 00:19:21.460 --> 00:19:24.500 into a campfire tale, a rumor, something spooky 00:19:24.500 --> 00:19:27.220 instead of actionable. And the longer it sits, 00:19:27.380 --> 00:19:30.400 the harder it is to untangle, especially when 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:32.380 the people who know the truth are still very 00:19:32.380 --> 00:19:36.039 much alive and still very dangerous and could 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:37.759 do the same. You want to go talk to Bigfoot, 00:19:37.779 --> 00:19:40.859 Gary? I don't. Yeah. No, thanks. The Bigfoot 00:19:40.859 --> 00:19:42.960 story didn't really like. It wasn't there to 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:44.700 distract from the truth. It was there to protect 00:19:44.700 --> 00:19:47.859 the truth and protect the people saying the truth. 00:19:49.140 --> 00:19:52.000 The amount of history, the amount of like, like 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:54.759 spooky stuff that's used to like cover up stuff. 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.839 Like, yeah, is, is, is wild. I mean, like even 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:00.680 if you go in the CIA in the fifties, they were 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:03.440 covering stuff up with vampires. Yeah. The, uh, 00:20:03.460 --> 00:20:06.480 the CIA Oswald thing in the Philippines or whatever. 00:20:06.619 --> 00:20:08.920 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's really covering. 00:20:09.019 --> 00:20:11.140 I mean, I guess it was. Was it really a cover 00:20:11.140 --> 00:20:13.859 -up, though? I feel like it was them exploiting 00:20:13.859 --> 00:20:19.259 folklore. Well, it was using them to create violence, 00:20:19.380 --> 00:20:20.579 essentially, is what I'm getting at. They were 00:20:20.579 --> 00:20:22.339 using it to create violence and be like, you 00:20:22.339 --> 00:20:23.740 shouldn't do this or this is going to happen 00:20:23.740 --> 00:20:26.019 to you. So where does that leave us? Well, we 00:20:26.019 --> 00:20:27.700 know this wasn't Bigfoot. There's no evidence 00:20:27.700 --> 00:20:30.039 of a cryptid attack, no physical proof, no pattern 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:34.099 that supports anything supernatural at all. What 00:20:34.099 --> 00:20:36.519 does exist is decades of violence tied to the 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.720 illegal weed trade. a culture of silence and 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:41.779 a system that made it very easy for certain people 00:20:41.779 --> 00:20:44.839 to disappear without consequence. We also know 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:46.539 that the story didn't spread because people were 00:20:46.539 --> 00:20:49.660 stupid or gullible. It spread because it worked. 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:51.700 It gave everyone a way to acknowledge something 00:20:51.700 --> 00:20:53.460 horrific without pointing a finger at someone 00:20:53.460 --> 00:20:55.359 who could hurt them. Like we said before, in 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:58.140 a place like where they are, that can be the 00:20:58.140 --> 00:21:00.380 difference between surviving and just vanishing 00:21:00.380 --> 00:21:02.849 off the face of the earth altogether. And the 00:21:02.849 --> 00:21:04.930 fucked up part is that it worked for a long time. 00:21:05.009 --> 00:21:07.529 Like no one was arrested. No one's been charged. 00:21:07.630 --> 00:21:09.710 No one has ever officially answered for what 00:21:09.710 --> 00:21:11.789 happened to those three men. And that's really 00:21:11.789 --> 00:21:14.029 what makes this story kind of stick. Not the 00:21:14.029 --> 00:21:16.210 idea of like a monster in the woods, but the 00:21:16.210 --> 00:21:18.829 realization that folklore can be used as a shield. 00:21:19.130 --> 00:21:21.490 That legends, they aren't just there to entertain 00:21:21.490 --> 00:21:25.089 us. They can protect people. Sometimes the wrong 00:21:25.089 --> 00:21:27.859 people. It's just so fucking wild. That is a 00:21:27.859 --> 00:21:31.799 fucking wild story. Yeah. It is a good fucking, 00:21:31.859 --> 00:21:33.660 that's going to be a new Yeti song. Like for 00:21:33.660 --> 00:21:36.240 sure. Like I am, that is, that just inspired 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:40.119 me to write a song about, you know, all that 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.720 going on, but just been like, but yeah, Sasquatch 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:44.460 did it. You know, Bigfoot did it. It was, it 00:21:44.460 --> 00:21:46.440 was him. And you're like, it was really Bigfoot. 00:21:46.460 --> 00:21:48.440 Yeah. Like Bigfoot Gary down the road. It was 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.720 actually Bigfoot. Yeah. But I think the lesson 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:55.880 here, if there is one, I've, I've never, done 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:57.859 a lesson on the show before is that when you 00:21:57.859 --> 00:22:00.839 strip the myth away, what you're left with isn't 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:03.480 mysterious or unknowable. It's just humans doing 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:05.559 what humans have always done in places where 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:08.019 they think no one is watching. Some monsters 00:22:08.019 --> 00:22:10.380 don't leave footprints. They don't make a sound. 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:12.460 They don't live in the forest unless you're Bigfoot 00:22:12.460 --> 00:22:15.259 Gary. Sometimes they just know the woods well 00:22:15.259 --> 00:22:17.660 enough to make the truth disappear. But there 00:22:17.660 --> 00:22:21.839 you have it. That is the Bigfoot murders. I'm 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:23.579 glad you enjoyed the story. You got any thoughts, 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:27.740 questions, concerns? The story fucked. Great 00:22:27.740 --> 00:22:31.420 story, by the way. When he started it off, I 00:22:31.420 --> 00:22:33.220 thought it was going to be an actual like, oh, 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:34.740 they're going to try to present this as like 00:22:34.740 --> 00:22:36.420 a real Bigfoot story. But then at the end, like 00:22:36.420 --> 00:22:38.180 you're like, it's Bigfoot Gary. And I was like, 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:42.779 dude, what the fuck? Bigfoot Gary. So I feel 00:22:42.779 --> 00:22:46.740 like somebody Bigfoot Gary isn't a murderous 00:22:46.740 --> 00:22:49.359 weed grower. I feel like somebody Bigfoot Gary 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:51.599 is just like a tall friend of yours who gives 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:53.980 the best hugs. Like Bigfoot Gary sounds like 00:22:53.980 --> 00:22:57.420 a nice dude. nickname, not someone who hacks 00:22:57.420 --> 00:22:59.220 up texting you in the morning. He's like, you 00:22:59.220 --> 00:23:01.299 doing okay today? He's like, you feeling okay? 00:23:01.339 --> 00:23:02.779 I heard you were sick. Let me bring you some 00:23:02.779 --> 00:23:05.859 soup. That's Bigfoot Gary. He'll bring you pho 00:23:05.859 --> 00:23:09.180 when you're hungover. Bigfoot Gary's a nice guy. 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:13.240 I feel like you should have had a different nickname. 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.839 Oh, yeah. It's like Bigfoot Greg. You're like, 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:21.319 yay, there you go. Fuck Greg. That sounds like 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:25.880 someone who murdered you for a penny. Yeah, so, 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:28.359 oh, I'm glad you liked it. Do you have any questions? 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:30.200 I really did. Maybe I can answer them. I don't 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:32.039 think I do. Really, if anyone has any questions 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:33.019 or want to know more about it. I'm going to watch 00:23:33.019 --> 00:23:35.039 that documentary. Yeah, just watch Sasquatch 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:36.920 on Hulu. It's really good. It's not that many 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:38.619 episodes. I think it's like three or four at 00:23:38.619 --> 00:23:40.680 the most. I think you pretty much summed up the 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:43.240 whole story. And it's like, in the beginning, 00:23:43.339 --> 00:23:45.420 like, yeah, I have a shit ton of questions. And 00:23:45.420 --> 00:23:47.839 by the end, you're like, here. And you're like, 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:49.940 oh, never mind. I have no more questions. It's 00:23:49.940 --> 00:23:53.019 all done. It's, you know, it's really sad that 00:23:53.019 --> 00:23:55.940 like, all these atrocities can be covered up 00:23:55.940 --> 00:23:59.460 by you know bigfoot and then you're like yeah 00:23:59.460 --> 00:24:00.799 we know who did it but we're not going to talk 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:02.980 about it because i don't want to die do you want 00:24:02.980 --> 00:24:04.619 to die you're like no we'll just leave it here 00:24:04.619 --> 00:24:06.880 what's bigfoot that's all you gotta say just 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:09.500 shut the fuck up you didn't hear no evil see 00:24:09.500 --> 00:24:13.059 no evil you just go left and yeah it's it's wild 00:24:13.059 --> 00:24:16.259 i can't believe that like this type of shit i 00:24:16.259 --> 00:24:18.039 can't believe i've never heard this story what 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.019 gets me though is that His name is Bigfoot Gary. 00:24:22.380 --> 00:24:25.240 Why wouldn't you find another monster or something? 00:24:26.099 --> 00:24:28.000 Because if you're just saying Bigfoot did it, 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.220 everyone fucking knows who Bigfoot is. Even he 00:24:31.220 --> 00:24:32.940 knows. He's like, they're fucking talking about 00:24:32.940 --> 00:24:36.599 me, obviously. Who else would it be? You'd think 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.359 they would have found a different creature or 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.400 just blamed it on a bear. Yeah, I would have 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.759 blamed it on a bear. Bears got them. I don't 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:45.099 know if we're bear country that I'd have blamed 00:24:45.099 --> 00:24:47.940 it on a cat. Cat showed up. Exactly. Big cat. 00:24:48.589 --> 00:24:51.230 Like this big. This big of a cat showed up and 00:24:51.230 --> 00:24:54.130 just dragged him into the woods. People weren't 00:24:54.130 --> 00:24:55.609 that imaginative back then, I guess. I don't 00:24:55.609 --> 00:24:58.369 know. How come it has to be like some poor person 00:24:58.369 --> 00:25:00.289 that has to die? How come it can't just be like 00:25:00.289 --> 00:25:02.289 the asshole supervisor who's working there and 00:25:02.289 --> 00:25:05.170 he's like, fuck you. Go back to work. And he's 00:25:05.170 --> 00:25:07.170 like, he's dead. I don't like his attitude. We 00:25:07.170 --> 00:25:08.750 already discussed this because they're usually 00:25:08.750 --> 00:25:12.049 undocumented migrants. It's not unlike what's 00:25:12.049 --> 00:25:15.049 happening today. Yeah, I know, and I feel bad 00:25:15.049 --> 00:25:17.910 for them, so I just want to help them and use 00:25:17.910 --> 00:25:20.890 my Buster story to stop all the evil against 00:25:20.890 --> 00:25:26.970 them. Well, Godspeed. Thanks for having me. Thanks 00:25:26.970 --> 00:25:29.930 for bringing me on for this story. Yeah, I figured 00:25:29.930 --> 00:25:32.190 you would enjoy it. Fuck you, Sarge. Fuck you, 00:25:32.210 --> 00:25:34.450 Sarge. You missed out on a good story. Yeah, 00:25:34.589 --> 00:25:37.599 he... He stayed in Texas to miss the good story. 00:25:37.819 --> 00:25:41.480 It is what it is. Sorry it took so long. It was 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:43.440 crazy. This wasn't even a long episode. I just 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.660 never had to write a mixture of a cryptid story 00:25:45.660 --> 00:25:47.920 and true crime before, so I was trying to hit 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.799 all the notes. I think it was alright. Whatever. 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.660 You did a great job. I love you, Sarge, by the 00:25:53.660 --> 00:25:55.980 way. I was kidding when I said fuck you. I want 00:25:55.980 --> 00:25:59.859 to give you kisses. Fuck him. That is the episode. 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:01.319 Thank you so much for listening, everyone. Dipper. 00:26:02.089 --> 00:26:03.829 Uh, we talked about it at the beginning episode, 00:26:03.930 --> 00:26:05.509 but do you think you want to plug where can people 00:26:05.509 --> 00:26:07.849 find you, your band, all that good stuff? Um, 00:26:07.849 --> 00:26:11.150 I'm a lead vocalist of killed by, uh, killed 00:26:11.150 --> 00:26:14.730 by a Yeti. We did the cryptic cocktail theme 00:26:14.730 --> 00:26:17.150 song. We just dropped an album. Um, it's got 00:26:17.150 --> 00:26:19.690 the voice actor of chowder, um, from cartoon 00:26:19.690 --> 00:26:21.589 network on it. And he's really cool. His name 00:26:21.589 --> 00:26:23.869 is Nick Jones. He's my best friend. Uh, you can 00:26:23.869 --> 00:26:26.289 find me on Tik TOK. I make a lot of Tik TOK videos 00:26:26.289 --> 00:26:31.549 about dumb and random stuff. Um, I will piss 00:26:31.549 --> 00:26:34.569 you off if you are not empathetic. You know this 00:26:34.569 --> 00:26:37.170 already. You know how far I go. And I'm on Instagram. 00:26:37.490 --> 00:26:40.250 Find me there. I make dumb videos and talk about 00:26:40.250 --> 00:26:47.549 One Piece a lot. Yeah, and I'll put some links 00:26:47.549 --> 00:26:49.150 somewhere for people to find you. I'll tag you 00:26:49.150 --> 00:26:51.430 in all the posts and stuff like that. But if 00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:52.829 you're having trouble finding Killed by a Yeti, 00:26:52.910 --> 00:26:57.109 they are tagged in our Instagram bio. And you 00:26:57.109 --> 00:26:59.210 can find us at Cryptic Cocktail. Find us at TikTok, 00:26:59.329 --> 00:27:01.529 Cryptic Cocktail Party. Please leave us a five 00:27:01.529 --> 00:27:03.690 -star rating or review wherever you can. Spotify, 00:27:03.890 --> 00:27:06.450 Apple. It really helps. Share as much as you 00:27:06.450 --> 00:27:09.950 can. That way, more people can find us. And I 00:27:09.950 --> 00:27:12.289 think that is all I have to say. So with that 00:27:12.289 --> 00:27:14.130 out of the way, Dipper. Would you like to say 00:27:14.130 --> 00:27:16.609 goodbye? And I love you to the audience. Thanks 00:27:16.609 --> 00:27:18.269 for watching. Thanks for having me. Goodbye. 00:27:18.549 --> 00:27:19.390 I love you.