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you are now listening to cryptid cocktail party

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Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of

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Crypto Cocktail Party, a show where we have a

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few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into

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the unknown. I'm your host, Dave, joined as always

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by my wonderful co -host, Sarge. But today we

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also have two very special guests. We have the

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hosts of A Better Way to A podcast. And I'll

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let you guys introduce yourselves just so that

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way the listeners know whose voice is whose.

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So whoever wants to go first, fucking have at

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it. I'm Andrew from The Better Way to A podcast.

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And I'm Jordan. First of all, that. intro fucks

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holy shit that was fucking holy shit we gotta

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talk to a tractor boy and tell him we gotta we

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gotta get something harder for ours because that

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was that was i got pumped up right that's uh

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that's my my buddy's band killed by a yeti out

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in arizona yeah no relation whatsoever that's

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no they just uh he wrote that custom just for

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us uh out of the kindness of their hearts so

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well i mean he could be related to a yeti i have

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seen his beard Yeah, he's a hairy, hairy man.

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Andrew Jordan, how are you guys doing? Doing

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well, man. Doing well. This is actually the first

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time Andrew and I have been back on a podcast

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in a minute because we've got a bunch of pre

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-recorded ones that we're airing now, so it's

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nice to see your face. Nice to see you guys.

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I know. I feel like we don't talk anymore. We're

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so busy. Because everything's in group chats.

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Everything just exists in group chats. I'm glad

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we could be the thing that brings you guys together.

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I mean, I don't know if this will be fun or anything.

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This is also, I want to say, the most on time

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I've been for a recording in maybe six months.

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Nice. Easily. Easily. Well, I appreciate it.

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And Sarge, how are you doing, Sarge? I feel fat,

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Dave. I feel fat. I ate a lot over the last many

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days. Yeah, it's just that time of year. I'm

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already fat, but I'm fatter. Get on that GLP

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-1, that bootleg GLP -1. I'm going to get on

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the real stuff. Apparently, the VA is hooking

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me up. Oh, cool. Hell yeah, brother. That's good

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shit. Makes me bleed out my asshole, but other

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than that, it's great. I'm fine with it. I don't

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use it for anything else. No, it's crazy. My

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blood pressure is better. My body odor changed.

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uh and is like less stinky um my impulse control

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is better this stuff might actually be a miracle

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drug honestly well i'm excited to get on it because

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i am a sweaty fuck so yeah it's gonna help with

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that it helps me with my sweatiness also not

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all the way because i'm extremely damp but yeah

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i'm permanent but it did help extremely damp

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andrew's a moist guy he's like a wet wipe 24

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critical for real I'm not going to lie. Talking

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about being damp and wet is kind of a good segue

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into the episode. Getting into Dave's kinks now.

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I thought this was going to be a sponsor segue,

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but no, this is the cryptid. The cryptid is wet.

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The cryptid is a damp cryptid. Not a sponsor,

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just a fan. But before we get into it, I guess

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we ask this to any guest. Andrew Jordan, are

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you guys cryptid guys at all? Is that your kind

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of vibes? I definitely, you know, I think like,

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um, I'm, I fall somewhere between a skeptic and

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believer, you know, um, you know, I try, I try

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to mostly believe what I can see, but I've had

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some like weird encounters. Right. So there's

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whenever someone's like telling me about like,

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um, like I love the fictional side of cryptids.

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I love like made up stories and like myths and

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legends and stuff, but I also kind of hold out

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like a little bit of space for believing like

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firsthand stories, not like believing them outright,

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but, but, you know, giving them, you know, the,

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just, you know, the little bit of respect that

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like, you know, there could be something out

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there. Right. Yeah. That's kind of, that's, that's

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kind of like our stated, like we don't believe

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every story, but we do believe that the people

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believe that they saw something or they. Yeah,

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for sure. Experience something they can. can't

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explain because i feel like if you just go in

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a whole hog being like fuck you you're an idiot

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kind of defeats the purpose of like yeah it's

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not fun yeah it's not fun that's not nice no

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i mean no but there are some stories where you're

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like this come on now you can't yeah there's

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some stories where it's like okay you're you've

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clearly got a A long medical history. Yeah. No,

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aliens did not come and tell you in perfect English

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that your ancestor was Napoleon and then massage

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your prostate until orgasm. Like, no, I don't

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believe you. If we weren't supposed to do it,

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it wouldn't be in our ass. And what about you,

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man? Is this something that you're into? Dude,

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as somebody who loves sci -fi stuff, like I love

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sci -fi movies. I love sci -fi books. um i want

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to believe i am like i believe in aliens i 100

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believe in aliens and i think like if i'm going

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to say that i believe in aliens then i have to

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leave room for the possibility that there are

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things on our own earth that are inexplicable

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or that we we just don't have the information

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like i we don't even know about we don't even

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know all there is to know about our ocean and

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like that to me is like absolutely wild so there's

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got to be shit that we miss elsewhere too or

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shit that like is rare and and you know comes

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up with these stories yeah and also the ocean

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is way more terrifying than any cryptid could

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ever be yeah the ocean's insane yeah it's literally

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insane oh did we lose andrew or what's going

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on No, I just had to mute my microphone. I felt

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a sneeze coming on and I got boogers all over

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my face. Just give me a second. Andrew's like

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a, Andrew's a toddler with children. I'm leaving

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that in. I love you, Andrew. All right. So this

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story that I'm going to tell you is, is I'm not

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going to, I usually do like a whole preamble

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about it. I'm not going to do that because there's

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a lot to go through. But the story is pretty

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much got everything. It's got. the rural South

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in the 1980s, which I'm sure it was an awesome

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time. It's got seven foot tall reptilian. We're

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going to be talking about the lizard man of scape

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or swamp. Is this anything that either any of

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you guys have ever heard of? No, I've heard of

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reptilians and lizard people. And, you know,

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I've met a lot of like, usually on our side of

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the, uh, the, the content. It's not a David Icke

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episode. I was going to say, this isn't going

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to be a David Icke reptilian people are Jews

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thing. It's not. We gathered that you weren't

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largely anti -Semitic. We do kind of check people

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out sometimes. Is there an anti -Semitic aspect

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of reptilian overlords? Yes. Very much so. Oh,

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no. Yeah, like, I didn't know either until I

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watched a couple of deep dives on, like, David

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Icke and that whole, like, group. And essentially,

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like, they all use the code words, like... the

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Rothschilds and the Bilderberg group. And it's

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literally all just coded language. It's a way

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of saying Jews without saying Jews. Yeah. It's

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David Icke uses reptilians the same way that

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Alex Jones uses the globalists. Yeah. Oh man.

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Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. I did not think I was. Wasn't

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David Icke the one who came up with the reptilians?

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I feel like he was. Yeah. Yeah. So our story

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has nothing to do with that. I promise. I promise

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this is going to get weird. Yeah, so our story

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kicks off on the morning of July 14th, 1988 in

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the rural area of Browntown, just outside of

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Bishopville, South Carolina. I'm going to take

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you downtown to Browntown. Did you say Browntown?

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That's a real place? Yeah. Browntown's kind of

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like a, it's not like the name of a town. It's

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kind of like how Boston or Philly has neighborhoods.

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Okay. Because for me, Browntown's a state of

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mind. Like pretty much right after I have Taco

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Bell. Anywhere I wind up is Browntown. Browntown's

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a vibe. Sometimes it's a public restroom. Other

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times it's somebody's backyard. Sometimes it's

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an intimate encounter at a truck stop. But anyways,

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we're already so far off the rails. I haven't

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even got to the first paragraph yet. All right.

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Tell us what happened in Browntown. All right.

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So it was the morning of July 14th, 1988 in the

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rural area of Browntown, just outside of Bishopville,

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South Carolina. That morning, a local family

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woke up to find that their car had been just

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absolutely destroyed overnight in their driveway.

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Now, thinking it was just some shit back kids

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or some drunk asshole with a crowbar. It's just

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Dirty Mike and the boys. They called Lee County

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Sheriff's Office to report the vandalism. Now,

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Sheriff Liston Truesdale responded to the scene

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personally, and the second he saw the car...

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That's a made -up name, dude. Liston Truesdale?

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Yeah. My name is Johnston Honestman. That's literally

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like a random sim name. Okay, I'm sorry. Sorry,

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sorry. Sorry, dude. When I said you have free

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reign to interrupt me, you gotta let me get through

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a sentence. Oh, God. Oh, God. So, Sheriff Liston

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Truesdale responded to the scene personally,

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and the second he saw the car, he realized pretty

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much immediately that this wasn't just like your

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typical kids on summer break causing mischief

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type vandalism. the car which was a 1985 ford

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ltd was just completely fucked up i couldn't

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find any pictures of it but the description that

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they gave kind of makes it sound like yeah you

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ever play street fighter 2 for the sega you know

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that like random scene in them like the random

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like uh mini game in the middle you have to beat

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the shit out of a car oh yeah yeah vaguely It

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kind of was like that. So the fenders were ripped

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clean off the body. The antenna was all bent

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to shit. Wiring was yanked out. The chrome trim

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was torn away and visibly chewed up. And there

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were these deep scratches and bite marks gouged

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into the metal. So, yeah, it didn't look like

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someone had taken a baseball bat to it, but like

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something was actively gnawing on it. And to

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make it even weirder, in the mud around the car,

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Sheriff Truesdale found large three -toed footprints,

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which he took plaster casts of. reason i really

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don't know it said that he like considered sending

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them to the fbi but he never actually did maybe

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he just thought they were like rad as fuck and

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like one of them kind of already clued in to

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like something somewhere you know it's like some

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people might not think to do something like that

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right off the bat until like an expert tells

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them like you know oh take take casts of the

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footprints but he was just like he was immediately

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he's like This is fucking weird. I'm not listing

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Truesdale. He's a fucking straight shooter. He

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knows his shit. Yeah, he's running. These need

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casts immediately. Yeah. Don't want to get the

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reptilian overlords involved, though. His deputy's

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like, Sheriff Truesdale, how do you always know

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what to do? I've been prepping for this since

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I was a fetus. All right. I want to know how

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nobody heard that. Dude, that was my thing. Like

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in the middle of the night, like no one heard

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just something fucking up your car. Yeah. Yeah.

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I don't know. Well, what was the family situation?

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Wait, so is that it? Is that the end of the story?

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No, I have so many more. Oh, okay. Let's go.

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Let's go. Let's go. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Now, he later told reporters that in all his

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years of law enforcement, he had never seen anything

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like the damage he saw on that car. Not kids,

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not a dog, not a bear, anything. In an attempt

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to figure out just what the hell mauled the shit

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out of this car, Truesdale began going door to

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door in the area asking residents like, hey,

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you seen anything unusual lately? And to his

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surprise, pretty much everyone was like, yeah,

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dude, we've seen a bunch of weird shit lately.

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Yeah, I've seen some weird shit, man. Where the

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fuck have you been? So multiple locals who had

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never reported anything and all independently

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of one another all admitted that they had seen

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some weird shit in the weeks leading up to that

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car being destroyed. all in the same general

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area and with the same description. A tall, dark,

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scaly, red -eyed figure. Some saw it crossing

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the road in front of their cars late at night.

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Others saw it moving along the tree lines. Others

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claim they saw it coming in and out of Skateboard

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Swamp. And I kind of already said this, but it's

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important to note again that none of these early

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witnesses had talked to one another. Like, it's

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the rural South. You start talking about seven

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-foot -tall lizard men, and people are going

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to start thinking that you're... batshit crazy

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yeah yeah and it is the 80s so probably and none

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of these people had seen any news coverage or

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reports of this thing because there wasn't any

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yet so this was all like private person to police

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reporting if that makes sense like They were

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all very much independent of one another. There's

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no memetic spread of lizard man memes. Exactly.

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Not yet. Is that a word? Yeah, is that a word?

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Oh, like meme. Memetic, yeah. What the fuck,

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dude? Get out of here with your big words. Okay,

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bye. So once Sheriff Truesdale realized multiple

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residents had... that had sightings of a tall

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red -eyed lizard man lurking along skateboard

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swamp he did what any small town sheriff usually

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does in a weird situation like this goes in there

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with a shotgun you're getting ahead of yourself

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so sorry he made a straightforward boilerplate

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run -of -the -mill public statement confirming

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that yes something unusual had been reported

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and that his office was looking into it and normally

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that would have just been the end of it just

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a strange local story that stayed Very local,

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but a local radio station manager caught wind

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of the sheriff's comments and decided that this

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is way too good a story not to share. So he took

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the liberty of pushing it out on the AP wire.

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And that's when shit got real, real fast. So

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within days, Bishopville was swarmed with reporters

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and not like local news people and radio hosts

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and stuff. I'm not like good morning, America.

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People Magazine, the LA Times. There's some pretty

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big names that came to Lee County wanting an

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interview with the sheriff. They wanted to get

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photographs of the footprints. They wanted pictures

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of the car. Now, with all this, at the same time,

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the sheriff's office was so overwhelmed with

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calls that they had to set up a separate phone

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line just for the press alone. Truesdale, at

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one point, kind of lost his cool when talking

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to some reporters, and he just like... kind of

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like pointed at him and very sternly said, we

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didn't ask for this. You did. Which, good for

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him. I like that. There's a lot of activity in

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Browntown. Yeah. It's very regular. Yeah. A lot

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of ins, a lot of outs. A lot of shit. We're getting

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stretched thin in Browntown. It's going to explode.

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It's a powder keg. Browntown's a powder keg.

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God damn it. And once the story hit the national

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news, it was all over. People started showing

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up by the thousands. Roads that normally saw

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maybe a handful of cars a day were now like bumper

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to bumper traffic. Any road that led into Scape

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or Swamp was packed with cars. Locals estimated

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that around 50 ,000 people came through that

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summer, which is like kind of unimaginable for

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a small, quiet country community. And these weren't

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just curious families, reporters and skeptics

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rolling through, hoping to catch a glimpse of

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the monster. And this is where we get into Sarge's

00:16:48.740 --> 00:16:51.320
favorite part of any good cryptid story. The

00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:55.659
monster hunters. Yes. Hundreds of them. These

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are just like men just tromping through the swamp

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with rifles, shotguns, pistols, all convinced

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that they were going to be the one to bag the

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creature. And along with it, fame or money or

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both, basically overnight. bishopville became

00:17:09.140 --> 00:17:14.059
a drunk diy cryptid safari so people were so

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people from out of state were rolling up in pickup

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trucks with camo gear and spotlights like they

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were looking for deer others wandered through

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the swamp just absolutely hammered and going

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full zach baggins screaming at the lizard man

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to show himself uh others just sat on the roofs

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of their cars with rifles watching the tree lines

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like they were in like vietnam the rice patties

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Bad time to be a tall guy in Browntown. Bad time

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to be a tall brown guy, especially if you have

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red eyes. Was there ever a good time to be anything

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in Browntown? No. No. A toilet paper salesman.

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Folks who had never even carried a gun in their

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lives were not carrying one. Teenagers snuck

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out into the swamp with flashlights. Oh, right.

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This is my kind of story now. Some people swore

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as they could hear, quote unquote, something

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big splash into the marsh. But with that many

00:18:21.339 --> 00:18:23.160
people out there, it's probably some stupid asshole

00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:26.059
just falling into the water. Just an asshole

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in Browntown. I regret bringing up the Browntown

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thing. I didn't even have that. It was a very

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important detail. I know. And now with this influx

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of ding -dongs in town, the sheriff's department,

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which is just a small rural office, was completely

00:18:43.809 --> 00:18:47.230
swamped, pun intended. Deputies spent nights

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responding to calls about movements in the woods,

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suspicious shapes, strange lights. But most of

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the time, these were just false alarm pranks

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or nothing at all. A hillbilly carrying a torch

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and a shotgun walking through your backyard.

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But occasionally they did find tiny bits of evidence

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that something very big and extremely strong

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had been moving through the swamp. One report

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stated that one night officers came across a

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section of woods where the trees had been trampled

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and three 40 gallon oil drums had been dragged

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into the road and then crushed as if this thing

00:19:19.059 --> 00:19:20.940
was attempting to do like his best stone cold

00:19:20.940 --> 00:19:25.440
Steve Austin impression. Jesus. Now, even though

00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.359
the sheriff and his deputies weren't too stoked

00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.369
on the influx of. drunk rednecks nearly shooting

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each other in the face every night, the town

00:19:32.430 --> 00:19:35.109
of Bishopville leaned hard into the attention.

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Local shops sold Lizard Man t -shirts, hats,

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bumper stickers, vendors set up roadside stands

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with little souvenirs, and a Columbia radio station

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offered up a $1 million reward for anyone who

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could capture the creature alive. But the fun

00:19:49.970 --> 00:19:52.549
wasn't contained just to South Carolina. Over

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in Vegas, and this is true, Bookmakers were taking

00:19:55.970 --> 00:19:58.509
bets on whether or not the lizard man would be

00:19:58.509 --> 00:20:02.430
caught dead or alive, which is pretty amazing.

00:20:03.049 --> 00:20:06.769
So the whole situation was chaos. It was commerce,

00:20:06.990 --> 00:20:11.829
but it was like it was how I word this. It was

00:20:11.829 --> 00:20:14.170
chaos. It was commerce. But in reality, it was

00:20:14.170 --> 00:20:16.269
just a community trying to just ride the wave

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of something that at this point was completely

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out of their control. So, yeah, they're making

00:20:22.170 --> 00:20:24.019
the best of it. Yeah. How are you guys feeling

00:20:24.019 --> 00:20:28.000
so far? Andrew, Jordan, you guys? Yeah. I'm feeling

00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:32.099
good. I want to know what happened. Yeah, no.

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I think these townsfolk are – it's got to be

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like what the people in – like where they launch

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the space shuttle off of feel like whenever they

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launch a rocket. You know? No, Cape Canaveral.

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You're right. Orlando. Cape Canaveral. When did

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you say Glen Cove? I said Orlando. Oh, Orlando.

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Yeah. That's Disney World. It's all Florida.

00:21:00.190 --> 00:21:03.329
Yeah. It's all Florida. It's got to be like how

00:21:03.329 --> 00:21:07.750
Floridians feel on a daily basis. Yeah. Just

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influx of old people coming down, moving into

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housing developments. Yeah. And I can understand

00:21:13.769 --> 00:21:17.200
why someone, why, you know. you're a local, you're

00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:18.619
a business owner, you might want to lean into

00:21:18.619 --> 00:21:21.319
it. Oh, yeah, obviously. It's not sustainable,

00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:24.000
it's not good culturally for your town, but there's

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not a lot of else going on down there. You could

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make a nice little egg. Make your bank and fucking

00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:34.519
move on. I'd make fun of it, but I'd lean into

00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:38.500
that shit hard. Oh, for sure. You have to. But

00:21:38.500 --> 00:21:40.819
even with all this hype, one thing was still

00:21:40.819 --> 00:21:43.619
missing, and that is a definitive story, like

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a witness willing to say more than just, yeah

00:21:46.220 --> 00:21:48.640
i saw it like we needed like a like a face to

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face with this thing and this is when 17 year

00:21:52.140 --> 00:21:54.380
old christopher davis makes his debut and he

00:21:54.380 --> 00:21:56.880
walks into the lee county sheriff's office to

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tell them about his encounter with the lizard

00:21:58.940 --> 00:22:01.799
man of skateboard swamp so he told the the deputies

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that on june 29th two weeks before the whole

00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.460
car incident he had been driving home from a

00:22:07.460 --> 00:22:09.980
late shift it was around 2 a .m when one of his

00:22:09.980 --> 00:22:12.220
tires blew out on a rural stretch of brown town

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road right along the edge of skateboard swamp

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So he pulls over, changes the tire, and had just

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like stood up to put his jack and tools back

00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:22.859
in the trunk when he heard heavy footsteps approaching

00:22:22.859 --> 00:22:25.859
from the tree line. When he looked up, he saw

00:22:25.859 --> 00:22:28.900
this towering dark figure walking out towards

00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:33.319
him. He described it as roughly seven feet tall,

00:22:33.500 --> 00:22:36.920
green with snake -like scales, and three long

00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:39.900
clawed fingers on each hand. It had large glowing

00:22:39.900 --> 00:22:42.619
red eyes and it moved fast, like way faster than

00:22:42.619 --> 00:22:45.039
a person should in the mud. He also described

00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.880
it as being lean but muscular, which I interpreted

00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:55.559
as also meaning like fuckable. Yeah, he had luscious

00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:59.599
full lips. I swear, half the fucking cryptids

00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.900
we talk about are described in the same way that

00:23:02.900 --> 00:23:06.539
like a middle -aged soccer mom would describe

00:23:06.539 --> 00:23:10.920
the new soccer coach. Or like one of those smutty

00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.940
novels. Can you describe him for me? Yes, the

00:23:14.940 --> 00:23:19.559
light glistened off of his velvety skin as I

00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:23.359
felt my loins yearn for his musk. His giant lizard

00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:28.200
dong dangled tantalizingly. His muscles are all

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.579
thin you eat. That's the only thing I've heard

00:23:30.579 --> 00:23:32.880
about the new 28 Years Later movie. I've not

00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:35.119
seen it yet, but all I heard is that there's

00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:41.019
a naked zombie. The dong is overhyped. It's not

00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:43.680
a huge part of the movie. It's a huge part of

00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.740
the zombie. Humble bragging. It's just an average

00:23:45.740 --> 00:23:47.759
-sized dong. I don't mean that it's an average

00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:51.079
-sized dong. It's a massive dong. I'm saying

00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:53.579
it's not a huge part of the movie. It doesn't

00:23:53.579 --> 00:23:56.180
take up a lot of screen time. Yeah, I don't think

00:23:56.180 --> 00:23:58.470
it would be a main character plot. I will say

00:23:58.470 --> 00:24:01.650
that that zombie is hogged the fuck out. But

00:24:01.650 --> 00:24:04.730
you got to remember, he's also like 10 feet tall.

00:24:04.829 --> 00:24:06.829
So proportionately. His name is Samson, dog.

00:24:07.049 --> 00:24:12.069
Yeah. But proportionately, I think it's just

00:24:12.069 --> 00:24:14.049
a normal size dong for someone who's 10 feet

00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:16.609
tall. Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah. Tell

00:24:16.609 --> 00:24:20.329
that to the person on the other end of it. I

00:24:20.329 --> 00:24:24.170
will. It's a good movie, though. You should definitely

00:24:24.170 --> 00:24:26.390
watch it. It's a phenomenal movie. I want to.

00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:28.680
You got to keep that guy out of brown town for

00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:32.720
sure. Yeah. Brown town's not big enough for even

00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.599
one of you. Yeah. He, he said it was lean and

00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:37.579
muscular. I did leave it. He also said that it

00:24:37.579 --> 00:24:44.859
was wet. Are you sure this, this is a, this is

00:24:44.859 --> 00:24:48.559
a cryptid story or it's just like, sure. If I

00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:50.420
want to tell you, I kissed that lizard man on

00:24:50.420 --> 00:24:52.240
the mouth and changed, but the rest of this story

00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.420
is true. You'd be surprised how many cryptid

00:24:55.420 --> 00:24:59.799
descriptions. are unintentionally horny uh we

00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.440
we did one on i think it was like the mantis

00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.440
man yeah and they said that he had strong calves

00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.960
that he walked up the embankment what is the

00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.839
psychosexual thing here where like people are

00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:14.819
people who encounter cryptids are they just like

00:25:14.819 --> 00:25:20.359
randomly uh predisposed uh to just be like attracted

00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.299
cross species attracted like i don't like i don't

00:25:23.299 --> 00:25:24.940
know like why why do they all want to fuck the

00:25:24.940 --> 00:25:27.160
cryptid Well, no, it's like, it's like all those

00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:29.240
chicks on Tik TOK who are like monster fuckers

00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.799
who think like Frankenstein is fine. You know

00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:35.039
what I mean? Like what? There's a whole thing.

00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:36.759
I think we're on different parts of the internet.

00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:41.359
We got different algorithms. It's a whole, you

00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:43.119
gotta think about it. You got, you had twilight,

00:25:43.259 --> 00:25:47.390
which was vampire. Yeah. And then you got. True

00:25:47.390 --> 00:25:50.089
story. A lot of Guillermo del Toro monsters are

00:25:50.089 --> 00:25:52.089
kind of. Yeah. Yeah. The shape of water. That

00:25:52.089 --> 00:25:54.069
was. Yeah. That was weird. That was. So I think.

00:25:54.130 --> 00:25:57.130
But like, you know, challenge. So I think through

00:25:57.130 --> 00:26:00.410
like through his. Not my proudest. Like a monster

00:26:00.410 --> 00:26:05.680
fucker. Kind of like. Proudest. It was hard,

00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:09.180
but we got there. It was hard. That's what the

00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:14.619
water man said. If the flesh is willing. That's

00:26:14.619 --> 00:26:17.140
what I said to the lizard man of Skabor's Swamp.

00:26:18.019 --> 00:26:25.539
So he's tall, dark, handsome. So it's coming

00:26:25.539 --> 00:26:28.339
at him through the tree line. So Davis, pants

00:26:28.339 --> 00:26:30.180
absolutely filled with shit at this point, dove

00:26:30.180 --> 00:26:32.359
into his car and started it. But before he could...

00:26:32.539 --> 00:26:34.359
Before he could even pull away, the creature

00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.480
rushed him and jumped onto the roof. Now it's

00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.880
clawing and pounding at the top of the car as

00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:45.200
he floored it down Browntown Road. He told the

00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:47.720
deputies he could feel the car rocking from the

00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.339
weight. He did everything that he could to try

00:26:50.339 --> 00:26:52.380
and shake this thing off. He's jerking the wheel,

00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:54.400
slamming the brakes, everything to get this fucker

00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:55.140
to come down. I could feel the weight of his

00:26:55.140 --> 00:27:00.579
ample body rocking against my vehicle. I felt

00:27:00.579 --> 00:27:09.859
the slippity slappity of his meaty claws he finally

00:27:09.859 --> 00:27:12.960
managed to shake it off and the lizard man flew

00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.519
off the road and onto the roadside like the road

00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.359
beside him and luckily for us Davis does not

00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.500
have the survival instincts of an acorn and didn't

00:27:21.500 --> 00:27:24.059
do the whole like let me get out of the car to

00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:26.839
see what it was yeah he he was smart and he just

00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:28.900
kept driving until he made it home now when asked

00:27:28.900 --> 00:27:32.240
why he didn't come forward sooner like like if

00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.039
this thing had attacked him why wait so long

00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:38.000
to report it uh well he said that like he was

00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:39.619
afraid no one would believe him like when he

00:27:39.619 --> 00:27:42.460
got home like that night he was understandably

00:27:42.460 --> 00:27:44.759
hysterical and it took hours for him to calm

00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:46.779
down enough just to even like explain to his

00:27:46.779 --> 00:27:49.079
parents what had happened so they kept it quiet

00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.130
like a family secret out of fear of ridicule

00:27:52.130 --> 00:27:54.430
but when he heard about the shredded car and

00:27:54.430 --> 00:27:56.470
the other sightings in the area he realized his

00:27:56.470 --> 00:28:00.589
experience might actually like matter so that's

00:28:00.589 --> 00:28:03.049
why he came forward when he did uh he even offered

00:28:03.049 --> 00:28:05.309
like a detailed verbal statement he provided

00:28:05.309 --> 00:28:07.650
a sketch of the creature and even volunteered

00:28:07.650 --> 00:28:10.029
to take a polygraph test which he passed with

00:28:10.029 --> 00:28:12.549
flying colors do you mean he drew the sketch

00:28:12.549 --> 00:28:16.190
yeah can we see this sketch i mean you can google

00:28:16.190 --> 00:28:19.470
it i don't know how to share i just want to see

00:28:19.470 --> 00:28:24.069
if it's like a really horny sketch It's like

00:28:24.069 --> 00:28:27.210
an anime girl. There's not been this much interest

00:28:27.210 --> 00:28:29.970
in Browntown since my doctor asked for a stool

00:28:29.970 --> 00:28:32.630
sample. Oh, it literally just came up. Lizardman

00:28:32.630 --> 00:28:37.190
of Skapor Swamp. Yeah. Bro, there's a couple

00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:41.329
different iterations and some considerably hornier

00:28:41.329 --> 00:28:44.130
than the others. Yeah, very horny. Damn, there's

00:28:44.130 --> 00:28:46.950
one where he's got, he's fucking jacked. Oh,

00:28:46.990 --> 00:28:48.329
is this a sketch? Please tell me this is it.

00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.980
Is this the fucking sketch, dude? Oh my God.

00:28:52.339 --> 00:28:55.420
Christopher Davis. It's signed by him. Oh, it

00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:59.259
looks like I drew it. All right. Okay. Draw that

00:28:59.259 --> 00:29:02.160
with his left hand while having a seizure. There

00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.359
is no fucking way. Yeah. That's not great. It's

00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.220
so bad. The picture of what attack Christopher

00:29:08.220 --> 00:29:13.380
Davis. I love this. By Christopher Davis. Yeah.

00:29:15.220 --> 00:29:18.759
That's amazing. Holy shit. All right. So not

00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.140
horny, but very funny in a different way. But

00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:23.740
Christopher Davis definitely failed anatomy class.

00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.599
You know, his mom put that on the fridge. He

00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.980
may have failed a lot of stuff. I'm sorry. If

00:29:28.980 --> 00:29:30.859
he's got like an intellectual disability, I don't

00:29:30.859 --> 00:29:33.480
mean to be making fun of him. He does. I have

00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.920
no idea. Maybe. Who knows? You can make fun of

00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:39.279
the drawing objectively. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't

00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.299
want to attack Christopher Davis. I can't draw

00:29:41.299 --> 00:29:43.700
much better than that. But as an art, as a critique

00:29:43.700 --> 00:29:47.720
of art, it's not. hilarious clearly he wasn't

00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:52.319
scarred enough yeah right yeah he was really

00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:54.319
traumatized there'd be some more detail on there

00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.599
yeah but uh but it was with that sketch and the

00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.519
fact that he passed a polygraph test uh that

00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:03.299
the sheriff finally had something that he hadn't

00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:05.200
before which was a full first -hand encounter

00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.259
from a credible witness who saw the creature

00:30:07.259 --> 00:30:10.000
up close and once christopher davis's encounter

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.130
went public the floodgates opened and waves of

00:30:13.130 --> 00:30:15.730
sightings came in all throughout the summer one

00:30:15.730 --> 00:30:18.289
of the earliest came from a local man named george

00:30:18.289 --> 00:30:20.970
holman he claimed that he stopped late one night

00:30:20.970 --> 00:30:23.410
at a well off the side of the main road and as

00:30:23.410 --> 00:30:25.710
he stood there taking a drink of water he noticed

00:30:25.710 --> 00:30:27.990
what he thought was a dead tree leaning near

00:30:27.990 --> 00:30:31.109
the roadside when suddenly the tree stood up

00:30:31.109 --> 00:30:33.730
straightened and took off running into skateboard

00:30:33.730 --> 00:30:37.170
swamp He only got a glimpse of the thing, but

00:30:37.170 --> 00:30:39.769
he described it as a massive dark shape with

00:30:39.769 --> 00:30:41.490
glowing red eyes. The whole thing happened so

00:30:41.490 --> 00:30:43.529
fast that he said he didn't really have time

00:30:43.529 --> 00:30:45.650
to process it. He just raced back to his car

00:30:45.650 --> 00:30:48.289
and got the fuck out of there. Around the same

00:30:48.289 --> 00:30:50.369
time, a local farmer reported that livestock

00:30:50.369 --> 00:30:53.269
on his property, like hogs and goats, were being

00:30:53.269 --> 00:30:55.690
brutally murdered. Not eaten, they were just

00:30:55.690 --> 00:30:58.650
killed and then left by something prowling around

00:30:58.650 --> 00:31:01.599
the edges of his farm at night. Presumably by

00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.240
this thing that people were seeing down by the

00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.500
swamp. And then one of the more well -known reports

00:31:06.500 --> 00:31:08.960
that summer came from a man named Frank Mitchell,

00:31:09.099 --> 00:31:12.420
a private pilot with a small runway on his property.

00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.779
One night while attempting to take off, he was

00:31:15.779 --> 00:31:18.619
forced to abort when a large upright lizard like

00:31:18.619 --> 00:31:21.240
figure that he estimated to be around nine feet

00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.950
tall walked directly across the runway. It wasn't

00:31:24.950 --> 00:31:27.470
just like these three sightings. By the end of

00:31:27.470 --> 00:31:30.569
the season, at least a dozen credible sightings

00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:32.670
or encounters had been documented by the deputies,

00:31:32.710 --> 00:31:35.410
all clustered around the scape or swamp area,

00:31:35.549 --> 00:31:38.130
all within weeks, sometimes days of each other,

00:31:38.190 --> 00:31:41.430
and all describing the same creature. And as

00:31:41.430 --> 00:31:43.650
is the case with stories like these, as quickly

00:31:43.650 --> 00:31:46.329
as the reports surge, they began to taper off

00:31:46.329 --> 00:31:48.990
as the summer faded. But before the quiet truly

00:31:48.990 --> 00:31:51.769
set in, there was one final incident. On August

00:31:51.769 --> 00:31:55.210
5th, a 26 -year -old man named Kenneth Orr, an

00:31:55.210 --> 00:31:58.049
airman stationed on Shaw Air Force Base, walked

00:31:58.049 --> 00:32:00.250
into the Lee County Sheriff's Office and filed

00:32:00.250 --> 00:32:03.250
one fucking hell of a police report. According

00:32:03.250 --> 00:32:05.930
to Orr, he had been driving along Highway 15,

00:32:05.930 --> 00:32:08.490
not far from the swamp, when the Lizard Man suddenly

00:32:08.490 --> 00:32:10.650
appeared on the roadside. He claimed that the

00:32:10.650 --> 00:32:12.970
creature charged at his car, forcing him to fire

00:32:12.970 --> 00:32:15.569
his pistol through his window in self -defense,

00:32:15.829 --> 00:32:18.170
hitting it at least once before it fled back

00:32:18.170 --> 00:32:23.369
into the swamp. is a wild story, almost unbelievable.

00:32:23.769 --> 00:32:26.390
But Orr didn't show up empty -handed. He brought

00:32:26.390 --> 00:32:30.869
evidence. He had with him several dark greenish

00:32:30.869 --> 00:32:34.009
-brown scales and a small vial of blood. Both,

00:32:34.089 --> 00:32:36.690
he claimed, came from the creature after he shot

00:32:36.690 --> 00:32:39.849
it. And for a moment there, it kind of looked

00:32:39.849 --> 00:32:41.490
like this might be the break that everyone was

00:32:41.490 --> 00:32:43.930
looking for, like actual physical evidence, a

00:32:43.930 --> 00:32:46.349
supposed encounter with a serviceman, and a signed

00:32:46.349 --> 00:32:49.769
formal statement from said serviceman. But...

00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:51.940
That feeling didn't last very long because two

00:32:51.940 --> 00:32:54.220
days later, after investigators noticed some

00:32:54.220 --> 00:32:56.720
inconsistencies in his story and started asking

00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:00.519
just the most basic of follow -up questions or

00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.019
admitted that he made the whole thing up and

00:33:03.019 --> 00:33:05.279
was arrested for filing a false police report

00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.619
and also unlawful possession of a pistol because

00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:10.779
he did not have a permit to carry said pistol.

00:33:11.660 --> 00:33:14.339
The scales, they were just fish scales and the

00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:17.279
vial of blood was obviously not lizard blood

00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.130
because first of all, How would he have gotten

00:33:20.130 --> 00:33:21.950
it? Yeah, that's what I was going to say. He

00:33:21.950 --> 00:33:25.990
got a vial of blood for what? Yeah, he shot it.

00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:31.170
He mopped it up and squeegeed it into it. I'll

00:33:31.170 --> 00:33:34.210
tell you, as a veteran, when a veteran tells

00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:36.809
me something, I'm immediately more skeptical.

00:33:37.069 --> 00:33:40.289
Yeah, right. Sure, I'm not, so I have no idea.

00:33:41.329 --> 00:33:45.470
Yeah, you should be. Same. Don't trust them.

00:33:46.380 --> 00:33:49.160
But he actually never said what the blood was,

00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.660
which to me is far more worrying, I feel like.

00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:55.619
No, that's not loser's man blood. That's just

00:33:55.619 --> 00:33:59.200
my blood. I just carry that. That's what I was

00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.859
thinking. He just opened a vein. He's like, that'll

00:34:01.859 --> 00:34:04.200
be fine. He's like fucking Angelina Jolie and

00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:05.940
fucking, what's his name, who just had the vials

00:34:05.940 --> 00:34:08.820
of blood? Oh, Billy Bob Thornton. Oh, Billy Bob

00:34:08.820 --> 00:34:10.840
Thornton, yeah. That was the worst couple ever.

00:34:12.179 --> 00:34:18.579
We'll talk about a score of a decade. But when

00:34:18.579 --> 00:34:21.780
asked why he filed the report, he said it was

00:34:21.780 --> 00:34:23.980
because he, quote, wanted to keep the legend

00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:32.880
alive. He said he wanted to keep... He looks

00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:40.079
like a great big spoon. So yeah, he just said

00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:41.820
he wanted to keep the legend alive. And it wasn't

00:34:41.820 --> 00:34:44.869
long, like... Before this hoax made local and

00:34:44.869 --> 00:34:47.050
national is partially because it was so fucking

00:34:47.050 --> 00:34:49.329
stupid and partially because it was the first

00:34:49.329 --> 00:34:53.070
openly fraudulent lizard man claim. The Orr incident

00:34:53.070 --> 00:34:55.590
injected a new layer of doubt into every sighting

00:34:55.590 --> 00:34:57.429
that came before it and every sighting that would

00:34:57.429 --> 00:34:59.769
come after it. And it confirmed what the skeptics

00:34:59.769 --> 00:35:02.309
had been saying all along, that people are willing

00:35:02.309 --> 00:35:04.809
to lie and fabricate lizard man encounters just

00:35:04.809 --> 00:35:07.409
to be a part of the story. And it's with that

00:35:07.409 --> 00:35:09.849
final bullshit story that the sightings finally

00:35:09.849 --> 00:35:12.420
came to an end after. Two straight months of

00:35:12.420 --> 00:35:15.239
sightings, panicked locals, monster hunters,

00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.239
and a national media circus that the reports

00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.019
just kind of suddenly stopped. By early fall,

00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:23.360
the phone calls stopped coming in. Whatever people

00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.679
had been seeing, hearing, or convincing themselves

00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.320
was out there. It just wasn't showing up anymore.

00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.400
Sheriff's Truesdale later said the silence, quote,

00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.929
came as quickly as the excitement did. One minute,

00:35:35.030 --> 00:35:37.110
people were convinced a seven -foot -tall reptilian

00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:39.530
humanoid was stalking the back roads, and the

00:35:39.530 --> 00:35:42.449
next, Bishopville was just kind of back to business

00:35:42.449 --> 00:35:45.389
as usual. So years later, reporters would ask

00:35:45.389 --> 00:35:47.929
Truesdale what he thought was going on, and he

00:35:47.929 --> 00:35:50.809
offered a pretty grounded practical theory. It

00:35:50.809 --> 00:35:53.030
was probably just a bear, just a big old lone

00:35:53.030 --> 00:35:57.150
bear roaming through the swamp. I remember that

00:35:57.150 --> 00:36:00.690
bears famously have scales and red eyes. Well,

00:36:00.750 --> 00:36:04.460
he pointed out that... Bears can stand and move

00:36:04.460 --> 00:36:07.039
on two legs for a brief period of time in low

00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.519
light or with wet or mud -covered fur. They can

00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.260
appear smooth, shiny, or all the colors. Yeah,

00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:17.659
I was going to say, like a bear caked with layers

00:36:17.659 --> 00:36:22.239
of dried mud in the dark might look like scales.

00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.039
Yeah, and a bear is certainly strong enough to

00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.070
damage a car and could have easily... dragged

00:36:28.070 --> 00:36:30.570
and crushed those oil drums. Do bears have that

00:36:30.570 --> 00:36:32.550
eye shine? You know, like some predators have?

00:36:32.570 --> 00:36:35.789
Yeah, they do. So there you go. That eye shine.

00:36:35.929 --> 00:36:39.050
It's not red. Those beautiful eyes. Those beautiful

00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:44.150
fuckable eyes. Deer have like eye shine. Most

00:36:44.150 --> 00:36:47.039
mammals, most, you know. Yeah, but there are

00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.000
different colored eye shines depending on the

00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.320
animal. And mostly predators, I heard, I don't

00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.059
know, I'm not a biologist, but I heard predators

00:36:54.059 --> 00:36:57.400
have the most intense that you can see with the

00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.079
naked eye with just a flashlight or a car's headlights.

00:37:01.380 --> 00:37:03.619
Most ambient light would probably pick it up.

00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.380
But most importantly, you pointed out that once

00:37:06.380 --> 00:37:09.519
a bear leaves an area, sightings usually end

00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.159
pretty abruptly. Yeah, because it's not there.

00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:16.920
Yeah, obviously. No, he wasn't claiming that

00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.599
the bear theory solved everything. Just that

00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.340
in his experience, people can underestimate how

00:37:22.340 --> 00:37:24.980
fucking weird a common animal can look under

00:37:24.980 --> 00:37:27.059
the right conditions, especially in a swamp at

00:37:27.059 --> 00:37:29.579
2 a .m. And you got like your adrenaline pumping,

00:37:29.659 --> 00:37:33.750
but not everyone. bought that explanation for

00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:35.909
a lot of the locals. It didn't feel like a satisfying

00:37:35.909 --> 00:37:38.389
answer to months of fear and excitement. Plus

00:37:38.389 --> 00:37:40.690
the legend was already firmly locked into place.

00:37:40.750 --> 00:37:43.610
Like once you give something like a name, a shape,

00:37:43.670 --> 00:37:46.230
a story, it's not just kind of, it's not just

00:37:46.230 --> 00:37:49.929
going to go away quietly. Still officially by

00:37:49.929 --> 00:37:52.449
the fall of 1988, the investigation was cold.

00:37:52.550 --> 00:37:54.590
There was no new tracks. There wasn't any physical

00:37:54.590 --> 00:37:56.809
evidence beyond some damaged cars and plaster

00:37:56.809 --> 00:37:59.110
casts. And there wasn't any photos or clear video

00:37:59.110 --> 00:38:03.619
of the thing. like whatever had stirred everything

00:38:03.619 --> 00:38:06.860
up whether it's a real animal mass hysteria or

00:38:06.860 --> 00:38:10.039
like a real life blizzard man it slipped back

00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.920
into scape or swamp and stayed there so wait

00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.400
what happened to the footprints then oh he didn't

00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:18.360
make casts you he made casts he didn't do anything

00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:21.599
with them they're just hanging on his wall yeah

00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.980
actually no you mean i'm sorry go ahead dave

00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:27.940
um well i was That's the end of the story. Oh,

00:38:28.019 --> 00:38:29.460
I was going to say, Andrew, you made a good point.

00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.619
I just looked it up and bears can sometimes have

00:38:32.619 --> 00:38:35.300
red eyeshine. So good call. There you go. Interesting.

00:38:35.579 --> 00:38:37.320
All right. The other thing I was going to say

00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:41.039
too is, okay, if I'm giving sort of some faith

00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:42.840
to these people that they did see something super

00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:46.099
strange. So what we saw in the original story

00:38:46.099 --> 00:38:50.500
was before the sheriff had heard anything about

00:38:50.500 --> 00:38:52.480
this, a whole bunch of locals had seen it and

00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.329
had their own independent stories. Yeah. nobody

00:38:55.329 --> 00:38:59.090
was sharing their stories until there was a public

00:38:59.090 --> 00:39:03.150
account of it and some credibility and then they

00:39:03.150 --> 00:39:05.429
stopped sharing stories when there was some high

00:39:05.429 --> 00:39:07.610
profile like there was like a high profile like

00:39:07.610 --> 00:39:10.730
case right and so now now sharing stories is

00:39:10.730 --> 00:39:14.469
silly right yeah so before suddenly everyone's

00:39:14.469 --> 00:39:16.809
like taking it seriously and then now suddenly

00:39:16.809 --> 00:39:18.730
everyone's like oh this might actually all be

00:39:18.730 --> 00:39:20.969
bullshit and so the people might clam up you

00:39:20.969 --> 00:39:24.920
know yeah pretty much But that actually segues

00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:28.599
into my next thing, which is theories. We got

00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:33.800
some theories, guys. Anyone? I'd have to say

00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:39.880
that it's probably not. There's probably not

00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:42.500
one giant fuckable lizard that wandered around

00:39:42.500 --> 00:39:44.280
for a while and then disappeared. There could

00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.639
be. You don't know. You know, I've seen what

00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:48.880
some bears will do to a car when they're exploring

00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:51.659
it and trying to get food out of it and stuff

00:39:51.659 --> 00:39:56.739
like that. If you left a McDonald's fry underneath

00:39:56.739 --> 00:40:00.119
the seat, I can see a bear fucking your car up

00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.739
trying to get to it. Because those things, I

00:40:02.739 --> 00:40:08.099
would almost do it. Also, you guys ever seen

00:40:08.099 --> 00:40:10.820
a bear with mange? Like a big grizzly bear? Yeah.

00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.880
imagine a mangy bear caked in mud hungry as shit

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:21.880
pissed and horny pissed and horny trying to kiss

00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:25.619
a man on the mouth not too far from cocaine bear

00:40:25.619 --> 00:40:29.079
territory anyway so still a possibility another

00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:32.519
theory is that everything was a hoax is that

00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.420
like from the beginning yeah and it wasn't just

00:40:35.420 --> 00:40:39.480
like people working together to create the hoax

00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:41.480
but like one person said something and then the

00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:43.139
other person said something right right the person

00:40:43.139 --> 00:40:45.260
said something that's how a lot of hoaxes go

00:40:45.260 --> 00:40:47.900
is that it's like there's the initial act or

00:40:47.900 --> 00:40:50.820
the initial lie and then you have the spontaneous

00:40:50.820 --> 00:40:53.360
um yeah everyone wants like a little piece of

00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:54.699
it right they all just want to be part of the

00:40:54.699 --> 00:40:57.320
story that's like when i call out from work because

00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.300
i'm hung over and i say i'm sick and then the

00:40:59.300 --> 00:41:00.960
next day two people call it from work and they

00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:07.119
say they caught what i had like yeah i bet you

00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.380
did buddy yeah you fucker and then there's like

00:41:12.380 --> 00:41:15.900
to go into the hoax is that there was like tourism

00:41:15.900 --> 00:41:19.159
factor like the chamber the chamber of commerce

00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:21.840
openly admitted that the lizard man craze was

00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.389
like financially great for the area it They'd

00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:28.050
bring in 50 ,000 visitors in one summer. There

00:41:28.050 --> 00:41:30.369
was merch tables set up. Radio stations were

00:41:30.369 --> 00:41:33.230
offering rewards. So maybe they were part of

00:41:33.230 --> 00:41:37.289
just perpetuating the hoax so that way it could

00:41:37.289 --> 00:41:40.170
get out further and further. And then you got,

00:41:40.309 --> 00:41:42.909
again, another mistaken identity, which is the

00:41:42.909 --> 00:41:46.829
human edition. Maybe it was just a dude. Maybe

00:41:46.829 --> 00:41:50.230
it was just a fucking dude. Just a weird dude.

00:41:50.489 --> 00:41:53.960
Just a big, wet dude. Just a wet guy. Just an

00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.019
Andrew in the woods. A big lumbering mutant.

00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:02.860
Fucking Baron Trump. Just a thick Baron Trump.

00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:09.079
Just crushing oil barrels. Fucking up cars. Oh

00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:12.659
man. And then there's probably the most practical

00:42:12.659 --> 00:42:16.440
one. Which is just mass hysteria. A bear fucked

00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.719
up a car one day. Everyone just assumed. Everybody

00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.199
lost their shit. Yeah. Went straight to lizard

00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.760
people. But that doesn't explain the initial

00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.280
weird thing about the story is that so many people

00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.239
that had never talked to each other about it,

00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.460
if you believe the story, had a similar like

00:42:35.460 --> 00:42:38.239
encounter, right? That's sort of the seed of

00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.039
all the madness, right? Yeah. They probably just

00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.579
heard about it and then they just became - Although,

00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:47.980
did all of those claims that the claim that all

00:42:47.980 --> 00:42:49.920
the stories were coming in come from the sheriff?

00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.739
Oh, good point. The same Sheriff's Dale was more

00:42:54.739 --> 00:43:01.559
like Lord. Tell no lies. Dale. Yeah. Cause what

00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:03.400
if he was like, Oh, here's this thing. Oh yeah.

00:43:03.460 --> 00:43:05.719
By the way, I've been getting a lot of unrelated

00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.000
and totally random calls from people saying the

00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.219
same thing. Just, just saying what I'm saying

00:43:12.219 --> 00:43:14.619
is true. See, I don't know because he seemed

00:43:14.619 --> 00:43:19.619
not stoked on all the attention. That's the perfect

00:43:19.619 --> 00:43:25.659
cover. All for the bit. It's like a professional

00:43:25.659 --> 00:43:27.420
wrestling thing. He was just maintaining his

00:43:27.420 --> 00:43:30.940
heel character. He's out there just like, get

00:43:30.940 --> 00:43:33.059
out of my town, you fucking tourist. And he gets

00:43:33.059 --> 00:43:36.800
home and he's like, yes. Can't break kayfabe.

00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.380
He walks in the house. He's like, honey, I nailed

00:43:39.380 --> 00:43:47.360
it today. They totally believe it. he's got his

00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.119
like three different costumes tucked away in

00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:54.840
the uh in the attic yeah man bear pig get my

00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.159
stilts they need another uh another sighting

00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.800
yeah we got i gotta go i gotta go fuck up this

00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:08.550
uh this kid who can't draw Did he come into work

00:44:08.550 --> 00:44:10.530
all fucked up the day after that kid almost ran

00:44:10.530 --> 00:44:15.289
him over? Yeah, right. I want to know. I went

00:44:15.289 --> 00:44:17.030
a little too far. I got a little too into the

00:44:17.030 --> 00:44:19.090
part. The only person I know with a dong this

00:44:19.090 --> 00:44:24.190
big is my husband. What did the lizard man and

00:44:24.190 --> 00:44:27.809
my husband have in common? I think the best theory

00:44:27.809 --> 00:44:30.570
is probably the hysteria aspect of it. I think

00:44:30.570 --> 00:44:32.610
it started with one thing and then everybody

00:44:32.610 --> 00:44:35.400
was like. Wow, now is a perfect time for me to

00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.199
bring some excitement to my boring -ass life

00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.300
in Browntown. That's fair. It's like, try something

00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:46.679
a little different. Yeah. Try lying to the news.

00:44:47.059 --> 00:44:50.599
Try lying to the news. A little experimentation

00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.380
in Browntown. Try Browntown, just once. It never

00:44:52.380 --> 00:44:55.679
hurt anybody. Exactly, just once, just to see

00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.239
how it feels. Dip a finger into Browntown. Yes,

00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:04.619
exactly. See how warm it is down here. They expected

00:45:04.619 --> 00:45:14.699
a finger. They got a fist. On that note, thank

00:45:14.699 --> 00:45:17.000
you guys for having me. Thank you for coming

00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:18.440
on. I can't wait to listen to this. We'll have

00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:20.619
to do a reciprocal. We'll come and we'll talk

00:45:20.619 --> 00:45:22.679
about armed cryptids on the A Better Way to A

00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:24.260
Podcast. Deal. Sounds good. We'll talk about

00:45:24.260 --> 00:45:26.840
arming the cryptids to fight fascists. Hell yeah.

00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.920
Love you guys. Bye. Andrew, what do you think's

00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:33.059
going on here? I think it's a mixture. I think

00:45:33.059 --> 00:45:38.099
it probably falls somewhere in between mistaking

00:45:38.099 --> 00:45:43.360
a wild animal for something, mass hysteria, a

00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.420
hoax. I mean, I think there's just a little bit

00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:47.539
of – I think it's like a perfect storm of little

00:45:47.539 --> 00:45:52.019
pieces of all of this stuff, right? Yeah. Because

00:45:52.019 --> 00:45:55.420
it's never – It's never just one thing, you know,

00:45:55.420 --> 00:45:58.300
reality is complicated and, you know, shared

00:45:58.300 --> 00:46:05.880
narratives are messy and dynamic. And, you know,

00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:07.440
there's probably some people that really did

00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.239
see something. There's probably some people that

00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.360
never saw anything and lied about it. Oh, for

00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:15.550
sure. There's probably any number of weird looking

00:46:15.550 --> 00:46:18.769
fucking animals in the swamp. When it's nighttime

00:46:18.769 --> 00:46:21.010
and you're scared, your eyes can play tricks

00:46:21.010 --> 00:46:24.230
on you. True. The only thing I feel about the

00:46:24.230 --> 00:46:27.150
misidentified animal thing is that if you're

00:46:27.150 --> 00:46:30.190
in a small town, even growing up in a small town

00:46:30.190 --> 00:46:32.349
in New Hampshire, I lived in a small town in

00:46:32.349 --> 00:46:35.250
Maine for a bit, you kind of get familiar with

00:46:35.250 --> 00:46:38.329
the wildlife there. And if you live near a swamp,

00:46:38.670 --> 00:46:41.820
you've probably seen a bear. covered in mud you

00:46:41.820 --> 00:46:43.900
know what i mean like you yeah i feel like you

00:46:43.900 --> 00:46:47.099
would know what that would look like so either

00:46:47.099 --> 00:46:50.500
it's completely a hoax or people were just playing

00:46:50.500 --> 00:46:53.739
up what they were seeing like yeah yeah or could

00:46:53.739 --> 00:46:56.039
see an unusual looking bear it could be like

00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:58.960
an unusually large bear or something that yeah

00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.039
i don't know what the bears are like down in

00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.920
south carolina or even if they have bears i don't

00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.639
know they do they do black bears are really are

00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:10.679
pretty they've got a pretty big footprint across

00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.059
the u .s yeah um and i i don't know that brown

00:47:14.059 --> 00:47:16.559
bears are down there though yeah black bears

00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.239
aren't really that big no they're easily they're

00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.019
easily scarable it's not like they're gonna fucking

00:47:21.019 --> 00:47:24.159
run and jump on to the top of your car bears

00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.440
don't get rabies so it's like it could be it

00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:29.519
could be that like the initial stories were one

00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.849
weird animal like a normal animal, but maybe

00:47:32.849 --> 00:47:34.170
it looked weird. It was a little fucked up in

00:47:34.170 --> 00:47:36.289
some way. And people got a little freaked out

00:47:36.289 --> 00:47:37.989
because it's something that's not usually in

00:47:37.989 --> 00:47:41.010
the area or doesn't usually look like that. And

00:47:41.010 --> 00:47:43.989
then it's like, you know, Christopher can't draw.

00:47:44.909 --> 00:47:47.949
Maybe he made that whole thing up, right? Maybe

00:47:47.949 --> 00:47:50.530
he fucking rolled his car and was like, how am

00:47:50.530 --> 00:47:53.349
I going to explain this? Oh, lizard man. True,

00:47:53.429 --> 00:47:55.289
yeah. He's a 17 -year -old kid. He's probably

00:47:55.289 --> 00:47:59.190
fucked up. He got home from a late shift, quote

00:47:59.190 --> 00:48:02.929
unquote. out with the boys, hammered, fucking

00:48:02.929 --> 00:48:05.650
ran into a sign or something and shit like that.

00:48:05.670 --> 00:48:10.429
Fucking lizard man did this. No, mom, listen,

00:48:10.550 --> 00:48:13.429
I swear to God, it was a seven foot tall lizard

00:48:13.429 --> 00:48:20.349
man. He jacked my shit up. But that's what I

00:48:20.349 --> 00:48:22.789
mean. I think there's a mixture of it. I think

00:48:22.789 --> 00:48:26.570
with a lot of these things, it's like a perfect

00:48:26.570 --> 00:48:30.650
storm of circumstances to create this. shared

00:48:30.650 --> 00:48:32.969
narrative yeah i mean that's the same you say

00:48:32.969 --> 00:48:34.650
the thing about like the whole mothman shit like

00:48:34.650 --> 00:48:37.329
to like like a bunch of people saw something

00:48:37.329 --> 00:48:39.250
weird and then a bridge collapsed and they just

00:48:39.250 --> 00:48:42.429
kind of conflated it all together into this one

00:48:42.429 --> 00:48:44.849
i mean not gonna lie if there's any cryptid i

00:48:44.849 --> 00:48:46.929
want to believe in it's the mothman yeah me too

00:48:46.929 --> 00:48:49.869
but you got to kind of give it a little bit of

00:48:49.869 --> 00:48:52.730
leeway uh sarge what do you what are you thinking

00:48:52.730 --> 00:48:55.170
what are your thoughts on this uh coked out hulk

00:48:55.170 --> 00:49:00.130
hogan yeah yeah plausible plausible All things

00:49:00.130 --> 00:49:03.309
are era accurate. So that would be my guess is

00:49:03.309 --> 00:49:05.050
that he just did a shitload of coke and started

00:49:05.050 --> 00:49:07.269
fucking around in the swamps for about two months.

00:49:07.369 --> 00:49:10.489
You're telling me the true American was down

00:49:10.489 --> 00:49:13.809
in the south running around in the mud? I mean,

00:49:13.829 --> 00:49:16.809
where else would you find a true American? That's

00:49:16.809 --> 00:49:18.949
fair. Just scaring the shit out of the locals.

00:49:19.849 --> 00:49:23.710
Yeah. All right. So that's the end of the episode.

00:49:24.650 --> 00:49:28.480
Thank you, Andrew. Yeah. for coming on and also

00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:31.079
your co -host who had to leave abruptly early.

00:49:31.260 --> 00:49:34.599
Uh, so I guess, well, he made it almost to the

00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:38.320
end. He did. I'm proud of him. Uh, normally this

00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.519
is where we would plug our stuff, but I'll, I'll,

00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:44.119
I'll give you the opportunity to, uh, say your

00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.079
piece, plug, whatever you need to plug. I've

00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:49.940
never been on this side of it before. Um, yeah.

00:49:50.099 --> 00:49:51.960
Uh, just check out the podcast, a better way

00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.599
to a, we talk about inclusivity in gun culture.

00:49:55.059 --> 00:49:58.019
Um, we have one episode where we talked about

00:49:58.019 --> 00:50:02.139
cryptids with the, uh, the, um, dirty Steve from

00:50:02.139 --> 00:50:04.039
tractor boy, uh, who actually came up earlier

00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.920
in the episode. That's weird synergy. Um, yeah,

00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.699
but, uh, we just talk about guns and rights for

00:50:10.699 --> 00:50:14.719
everybody. Um, and we're explicitly, uh, pro

00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.199
gay and pro trans and trying to push back on

00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:20.199
traditional gun culture and create a new little

00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.739
slice of gun culture for people like us. Yeah,

00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:25.699
you guys have been doing awesome work with those

00:50:25.699 --> 00:50:27.519
billboards. Those billboards are fucking awesome.

00:50:27.619 --> 00:50:31.380
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love the, you know, surprisingly

00:50:31.380 --> 00:50:34.420
little hate for them. We thought we would stir

00:50:34.420 --> 00:50:36.420
up some people and make some people mad and get

00:50:36.420 --> 00:50:39.500
some hate, but really just messages of support.

00:50:40.380 --> 00:50:43.380
Well, I mean, to be fair, they are the vocal

00:50:43.380 --> 00:50:46.440
minority of people that are usually opposed to

00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.150
those things. I feel like it's. You get on the

00:50:50.150 --> 00:50:52.869
internet, you kind of get this outsized sense

00:50:52.869 --> 00:50:58.050
of importance to those people. Yeah, nobody wants

00:50:58.050 --> 00:50:59.889
to put their face on it. That's why they do it

00:50:59.889 --> 00:51:02.090
on the internet. Yeah, and we found this out

00:51:02.090 --> 00:51:03.650
when we went to SHOT Show the first time, which

00:51:03.650 --> 00:51:08.030
is an industry show for the gun industry, was

00:51:08.030 --> 00:51:13.210
that we're always in combat online, specifically,

00:51:14.690 --> 00:51:17.590
weirdly, specifically with anti -trans people.

00:51:18.429 --> 00:51:20.989
But then you go and talk to people face to face

00:51:20.989 --> 00:51:22.489
and they're like, oh, lit. That's cool. That's

00:51:22.489 --> 00:51:24.829
a really cool idea for a page. And I love what

00:51:24.829 --> 00:51:27.170
you guys are doing was like the general message.

00:51:27.989 --> 00:51:30.829
And, you know, most people, regardless of what

00:51:30.829 --> 00:51:34.190
their their personal feelings are on like, you

00:51:34.190 --> 00:51:35.829
know, gay people or trans rights or whatever,

00:51:36.090 --> 00:51:40.849
you know, are very happy to see people having

00:51:40.849 --> 00:51:43.170
fun and enjoying their life and exercising their

00:51:43.170 --> 00:51:48.099
rights. Hell yeah, man. I love it. Yeah. You

00:51:48.099 --> 00:51:52.480
guys are doing God's work. I appreciate you guys.

00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.880
I'd say that as not a religious person. As an

00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:01.019
atheist. I'm like a crypto -Christian. I'm like

00:52:01.019 --> 00:52:04.039
the most undercover religious person you'll ever

00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:06.900
meet. I appreciate you taking time on the Lord's

00:52:06.900 --> 00:52:11.320
Day. On the Lord's Day. Yeah, that's right. To

00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:13.659
come talk shit about cryptos with us. Hell yeah,

00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:15.639
dude. Sarge, you got anything you want to plug

00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:20.739
before we hop off? Yeah, just hit me up on the

00:52:20.739 --> 00:52:24.639
socials. Sarge the Destroyer on all of them.

00:52:24.659 --> 00:52:31.000
You'll find me. Yeah, I found you. I think I

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.159
followed you back. Before I even knew you were

00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:34.940
on this podcast, I was like, oh, I like this

00:52:34.940 --> 00:52:38.619
guy. That sounds about right. I'll make sure

00:52:38.619 --> 00:52:41.780
I follow you back, too. Every time Dave posts

00:52:41.780 --> 00:52:44.360
something awesome. I get like a million follows

00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:48.980
and I don't know who to follow back. So I got

00:52:48.980 --> 00:52:50.500
to get through there and actually find people

00:52:50.500 --> 00:52:52.260
I know because a bunch of people just follow

00:52:52.260 --> 00:52:53.519
me and I have no idea. I think you already follow

00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:56.340
me and you don't realize it. Okay, good. Sarge

00:52:56.340 --> 00:52:58.599
has a tendency to follow just everyone back apparently.

00:52:58.860 --> 00:53:00.800
Oh yeah, team follow back. No, not everyone.

00:53:01.300 --> 00:53:05.400
Not everyone. I get it, man. That's the way to

00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.119
grow. So yeah, so follow Sarge on all his socials.

00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.130
You can find him at the link. and our Instagram,

00:53:11.289 --> 00:53:13.590
which is at Crypto Cocktail, where you can follow

00:53:13.590 --> 00:53:15.309
us. You can find us at TikTok, Crypto Cocktail

00:53:15.309 --> 00:53:19.349
Party. Yeah. Also, if you guys want, leave us

00:53:19.349 --> 00:53:21.849
a rating and review. It super helps the show

00:53:21.849 --> 00:53:24.969
get into other people's ears, eyes, whatever

00:53:24.969 --> 00:53:28.969
the fuck. Yeah, whatever. Now, usually this is

00:53:28.969 --> 00:53:30.469
the part where Sarge would say goodbye and I

00:53:30.469 --> 00:53:33.449
love you to the audience. Your gracious co -host

00:53:33.449 --> 00:53:35.750
already said I love you, but would you like to

00:53:35.750 --> 00:53:37.989
say goodbye and I love you to the audience? You

00:53:37.989 --> 00:53:41.000
talking to me? Yeah, I'm talking to you. Goodbye,

00:53:41.099 --> 00:53:42.679
audience. I love you.