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You are now listening to Cryptid Cocktail Party.

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Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of

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Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have

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a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive

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into the unknown. I am your host, Dave. I am

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not joined by Sarge today, but instead, I have

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a very special guest. I am joined today by fan

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favorite, Colby Clark. How's it going, buddy?

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Ooh, I'm doing good, buddy. Thank you for having

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me on. Yeah, not a problem, man. Love you, Sarge.

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Yeah. I hope you're having fun adventures. Actually,

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I think he's on an adventure. I think he's up

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in New Hampshire hiking or something like that.

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I really don't know. He's just at the DMV? Maybe.

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I don't know. On a Sunday. I'm so glad you're

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here, man. It's been a long time since you've

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been on. Yeah, it has been. I know. How long

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are we thinking? In terms of episodes, how many

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have you done so far? In terms of episodes, it's

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a lot. Yeah. I know. You probably haven't been

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on. It's been over a year since you've been on

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Colby. Too long. Too long. Too long. Way too

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long. So what's been up? What's going on with

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you? Anything new? Anything fun? Anything exciting?

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I mean, played a very sick show at Henneker Brewing.

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I got our logo on a fucking beer, which is very

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cool. Hell yeah. Yeah. other than that um we

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do have my band lanterns has a a new a new drop

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coming soon um which i think you're gonna like

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um and maybe the the listeners of cryptic cocktail

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would like so that's that's it yeah maybe whatever

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dude you know maybe first of all now's not the

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time to plug your shit all right that's way to

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the end so early you fucking self -serving bastard

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all right i get you in front of an audience and

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you're just like it's all about me baby that's

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what i've been up to though i guess um hanging

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out with my wife she's lovely i love that i love

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that what have you been up to oh you know uh

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this i'm going to japan so this is my last episode

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before i go to japan i'll be gone for like three

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weeks so very cool Yeah, it's not bad. Very,

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very fucking cool. It's not bad. It's going to

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be fun. No. I'm going to get fucking hammered.

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Yeah. In Japan. You should. I'm going to be a

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problem. Are you going to do sake bombs? I don't

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know. I don't think that's a Japanese thing.

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I think that's like an American thing that we

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took. Like we just did that. 100%. Definitely

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American thing. We bang on the table and they're

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like, shh. Yeah. Quiet. I feel like that's not.

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Why are you so loud? Yeah, I don't think that's

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a thing. they do but yeah no i'll uh it'll be

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fine yeah i mean i'm sure you got some awesome

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shit planned i'm sure your wife is super excited

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ali's taking care of most of all the this is

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like her like she's all gung -ho about it she's

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taking care of most of the stuff that we're gonna

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do i i only had only had two things i wanted

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to do one of them we might not do it because

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it turns out it's way far away from everything

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that we're like where we're staying so but yeah

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you know Yep. It's going to be fun. Just don't

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worry about it. All right. That was the same

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thing that happened to me when we wanted to do

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Twin Peaks stuff. Well. We didn't do any Twin

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Peaks stuff. Well, Colby, this is kind of Twin

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Peaky's in a way, this episode. Not really at

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all. The old bait and switch. You've been to

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the great state of Washington, right? I have,

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yes. Yeah, that's where Twin Peaks takes place,

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right? Yes and no. Yes, they did some filming

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there. I didn't mean film. But then apparently

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it happened somewhere else. Does it take place

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there or no? In the make -believe land of Twin

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Peaks. I don't know, actually. I'm a terrible

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fan. Let's say for this episode that it does.

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Well, today we're going to be heading to the

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state of Washington. Cool. All right. What do

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we got going on out there? All right, so summertime

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on Mount St. Helens. You're familiar with Mount

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St. Helens, correct? It's a mountain. Named after

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St. Helens. God damn it. All right. So somewhere

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on Mount St. Helens, the trails and woods are

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packed with hikers, campers, and families taking

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in the mountain air. You know, you got beautiful

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views, wind through the trees, the birds overhead.

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It's pretty peaceful. It's so peaceful that the

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wonder of it all almost makes you forget that

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you're standing on top of a violent, unpredictable

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force of nature that in the 80s decimated everything

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in a 30 -mile radius of it. And that is kind

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of the wonder of nature. It just makes you forget

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that you're standing on a ticking time bomb.

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Beauty and chaos. But before the eruption, before

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the movie Dante's Peak, heck, even before 9 -11,

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there was another story tied to this mountain,

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one that turned a quiet stretch of what? Your

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face. I mean, I just, I'm not sure of the timeline

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between when Dante's Peak came out and 9 -11,

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but when 9 -11 came out. but i'm gonna i'm gonna

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revert to you the timeline expert and i i take

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back the face i made yeah there um yeah but before

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all that there was another story tied to this

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mountain one that turned a quiet stretch of forest

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into a place where many were too scared to even

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enter because back in the summer of 1924 five

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miners claimed that they were attacked in the

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woods and miners isn't like hold on Yeah. Well,

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they're probably both underage and mining, I

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would imagine. Yeah, so five miners claimed they

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were attacked in the woods, not by men or by

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bears, but something else entirely. Something

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they said came out of the trees in the dead of

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night, and they were pissed. This week, Colby,

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we're going to be covering the story of the Ape

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Canyon attack. I assume you're not familiar with

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this at all. I am not. I try to not familiarize

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myself with anything before I come on to this

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show. Yeah, that's fair. Because it makes it

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a better experience. So no, I've never heard

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of this. Okay. It sounds wild. So in the summer

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of 1924, a crew of five gold prospectors, Fred

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Beck, Marion Hank Smith. Hank's son Roy, Gabe

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Lefevre, LeFarve? LeFever? I don't know. And

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John Peterson set out deep into the wilderness

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of Mount St. Helens to stake their claim near

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a small rise known as Pummy Butte, about eight

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miles from Spirit Lake. Pummy Butte. Pummy Butte,

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baby. I mean, if Jeff Beck and Brett Favre want

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to go on an adventure, who are we to stop them,

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you know? That's where he comes up with all his

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best material. I just love that this dude's named

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Marion Smith, but he goes by Hank. Nowhere in

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that name would you get the nicknames Hank. Very

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progressive of him. I like that. So once they

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set up shop and named their claim, they dubbed

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it the Vander White Mine. And for the first few

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days, everything was normal. Then things started

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to get a little bit not normal. At night, the

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men started hearing what they described as a

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shrill, peculiar whistling echoing across the

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ridges. It wasn't the wind, and it didn't sound

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like any bird or animal that they could identify.

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I mean, these dudes are like rugged -ass fucking

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mountain men. They probably had a good idea of

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what animals were around. You know what I mean?

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They should probably be able to identify them.

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Marianne the woodsman. Marianne the woodsman.

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She knows. she's heard a bird yeah uh then came

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the heavy thuds almost rhythmic like something

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goes out in the darkness just fucking cranking

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the talk dude no it's uh it was more like something

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like pounding on his chest like kind of like

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how a gorilla does or matthew mcconaughey yeah

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uh you know what i'm talking about what those

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those car commercials yes could you imagine oh

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he'd be bigger than life so So it's not great.

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So that's what their nights were like. Then in

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the morning, they started finding footprints

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around their little cabin. And these were like

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enormous human -like prints. They were 14 inches

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long and sunk deep into the soil. But they were

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way too big to be a man's. They were too flat

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to be a bear's. And they were spaced way too

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far apart for anything, really, unless you're

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on stilts or something. So it was like a human

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-sized foot, but the span that they were walking

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was really far? Yeah. Is that what we're talking

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about? The footprint was 14 inches long, which

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is way bigger than a human, unless you're Shaq,

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I think. Right. Yeah. But they were spaced very

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far apart. 14 inches. I feel like that's a nominal

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distance. That's not too far. For a footprint

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from heel to toe? What if I was running? I'm

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not saying the 14 inches between the footprints.

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I'm saying the foot itself is 14 inches long.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you. All

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right. Yeah. Yeah. So now armed with this information.

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I got 10 and a half. Oh, I got 11. What? Yeah.

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That's crazy. I have big feet for my height.

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I have hobbit feet. So this is a great example.

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This is a great example of how tracking can go

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wrong. Yeah, but also, you know, it just means

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I'm fucking hogged out, dude. You know what big

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feet mean, dude? I know what size socks you got.

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Could you imagine? One of them hobbit penises?

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That's why they needed to make it back to the

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Shire. Colby, you're making these faces. Remember,

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this is an audio medium. No one can see the faces

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you're making. Don't you... You don't do the...

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The clips? You want me to clip? Now you want

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me to clip, right? Fucking goddammit. Again,

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self -serving. I mean, can you just put together

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a compilation of me nodding a bunch? i got my

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downfall on podcasts is i feel like people hear

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me nodding all right let's get back to the story

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all right so yeah so they were they were big

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too big too flat to be a bear spaced way too

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far apart for any thing normally uh so now armed

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with this information the men did two things

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one they just laughed it off because that's what

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you do when you're a group of dudes in the middle

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of nowhere and you're trying to act like you

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aren't pants -shittingly terrified, and two,

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started carrying their rifles with them everywhere

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because that is also what you do when you're

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in the middle of nowhere and you actually are

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pants -shittingly terrified. Yeah, I'm going

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to go to the bathroom real quick, but I'm going

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to take my rifle fully loaded with me when I

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go to the bathroom. Yeah, that's pretty much

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how it went down. Not for any particular reason.

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Yeah, I know. You never know, dude. I mean, there's

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clearly not bears here. Just because. maybe maybe

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if there is but i'm not scared yeah no and uh

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and it just keeps getting worse each night like

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the noises got louder and closer and then to

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make things even worse than that uh the whistling

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started to like overlap like one coming from

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the ridge to the east another was answering from

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the west and now they're starting to realize

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that whatever is out there it's not alone so

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now the tension and fear is at an all -time high

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like they were jumpy They started sleeping with

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their rifles instead of just carrying around

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with them during the day. And then one morning,

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while Fred, Beck, and Hank were out getting water

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from a nearby spring, shit got real. Now, across

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the small canyon from them, standing next to

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a pine tree, was a massive, upright creature.

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Dark hair, broad shoulders, and close to seven

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feet tall. And it was just fucking eyeing them,

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like staring straight at them. Beck and Smith...

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Beck and Smith froze for a moment. Then Hank

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did the reasonable thing and fired three shots

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at the thing. Right. As they do. Right? That's

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what I'm saying. As we always do. No, Beck swore

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that he hit it, but instead of going down, it

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just kind of ducked behind a tree, did a little

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peekaboo type situation, and then it just fucked

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off back into the forest. The two men, now terrified,

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admittedly terrified, not just pretending they

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aren't, decided that they should probably do

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the same and hightailed it back to camp, white

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as ghosts, rifles still in hand. And when they

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got back, they told the others what had happened,

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and everyone agreed that come morning, they should

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probably get up on out of there. But, you know.

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Hightail it. Yeah. Now, would it ever be that

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simple? Not if it was a good cryptic cocktail

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episode. Hell nah. So that night, the miners

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bunkered down in their little shitty cabin for

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what they thought was going to be their last

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night on the mountain. Nobody was really sleeping.

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They're just kind of laying there waiting for

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the first sign of dawn so they could grab their

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shit and get the fuck out of there. Then sometime

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around midnight, boom, just a fucking massive

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crash shook the whole cabin. Something gets slammed

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into the outer wall so hard that it knocked the

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chinking from between the logs. Now, for like

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a split second, the men thought it must have

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been like a fallen tree, like something fell

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onto the cabin or fucking the mountain was erupting.

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I don't know. That is until another massive crash

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hit from the opposite side. Then another just

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fucking boom, boom, boom. Then the cabin started

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just getting absolutely pelted with rocks. Big

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ones, too, like fist size and bigger. They were

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hitting the roof, bouncing off the walls from.

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every direction and it was relentless beck said

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later on that it was like being caught in the

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middle of a war zone yeah yeah they were they

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they they might have been right i mean you got

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these two creatures trying to have a conversation

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they're yelling slurs they're they're mad at

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each other they're pissed oh and then these people

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right in the middle of it right and they're they're

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picking up their transmissions and then they're

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like you know what fuck these guys do you think

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that we're gonna have an all -out war do you

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think maybe these dudes were caught in the middle

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of like a bigfoot like gang war like like a like

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a turf battle bigfoot brawl a bigfoot brawl yeah

00:16:04.019 --> 00:16:07.960
hell yeah dude a bigfoot brawl i don't know I

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mean, it could have been. I mean, it's not what

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happened, but I like the concept of... You're

00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:15.940
not right. These dudes just catching strays.

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But I appreciate your... Your imagination on

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the subject. I mean, it could be. Maybe they

00:16:24.940 --> 00:16:28.379
teamed up to fight the... I don't know. But anyways,

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when the men looked through the gaps in the logs

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to see who or what was causing all the hubbub,

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they saw what could only be described as... not

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great just these just these fucking absolute

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massive shapes moving in the moonlight there

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were four maybe five of them just massive upright

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silhouettes covered in hair and built like fucking

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refrigerators and they were fast like they were

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just like they were just like spinning like circling

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the cabin just howling pounding at the walls

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throwing rocks so the men grabbed their rifles

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and just started firing through any window gap

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or hole they could find But it didn't stop the

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attack. If anything, it just pissed these things

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off. One of the creatures then climbed up onto

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the roof and just started stomping and jumping

00:17:15.339 --> 00:17:18.180
like it was trying to cave it in. So Beck and

00:17:18.180 --> 00:17:22.200
Smith, they aimed straight up and just fired

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up through the ceiling. And whatever was up there

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let out a loud roar and rolled off the roof with

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a thud. But that didn't deter the other three

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or four. Fuck you, Harry Santa. You bitch. Get

00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:41.099
off my roof. But yeah, it didn't slow the other

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ones down because now they were pounding on the

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door so hard that the hinges were starting to

00:17:45.779 --> 00:17:50.539
break away. So now Roy Smith, Gabe LeFevre, however

00:17:50.539 --> 00:17:53.019
you want to pronounce it, and John Peterson were

00:17:53.019 --> 00:17:55.440
piled up against the door while Beck and Hank

00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.319
were ripping boards off their bunks to try and

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reinforce it. Then, out of fucking nowhere, One

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of the squatches just fucking punches a hole

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straight through the wall. Just fucking knocks

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a huge chunk of log loose. And through the hole

00:18:12.500 --> 00:18:15.059
came this massive hairy arm. And it's just like

00:18:15.059 --> 00:18:19.579
blindly reaching, trying to grab anything. Then,

00:18:19.579 --> 00:18:22.400
unfortunately, it got its fingers around the

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handle of an axe that was propped up against

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the wall. Of course it did. They left it perfectly

00:18:29.670 --> 00:18:34.609
right there for Harry Hawaiian Punch Man to fucking...

00:18:34.609 --> 00:18:39.910
Now he's armed with weapons. Yeah, well, it started...

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It started pulling the axe through the hole,

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but Beck was like, well, no, you can't have an

00:18:45.829 --> 00:18:48.250
axe -wielding Bigfoot out there. So he grabs

00:18:48.250 --> 00:18:52.309
the other end and had a bit of a little... tug

00:18:52.309 --> 00:18:54.589
of war session for a minute before finally ripping

00:18:54.589 --> 00:18:56.769
it free from the thing's grasp and as soon as

00:18:56.769 --> 00:18:59.789
that happens hank runs over and then just starts

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fucking shooting point blank into the opening

00:19:02.390 --> 00:19:08.150
yeah hank's kind of a badass yeah yeah you gotta

00:19:08.150 --> 00:19:11.210
jump into action and that was the time i mean

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you got an opening take your shot shooter's gotta

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shoot exactly now on the other side the creature

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that was on the receiving end of the shots let

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out this like high -pitched cry then yanked its

00:19:26.660 --> 00:19:28.160
arm back through the hole which is understandable

00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:32.680
i get it and this kept up for hours like every

00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.099
minute there was another barrage of rocks that

00:19:35.099 --> 00:19:37.180
would hit or something would slam into the walls

00:19:37.180 --> 00:19:40.059
the door and the men just stood their ground

00:19:40.059 --> 00:19:41.940
and returned fire whenever they caught a glimpse

00:19:41.940 --> 00:19:46.160
of their eyes shining in the darkness now at

00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:49.910
one point In a weird moment of, I don't know,

00:19:49.990 --> 00:19:53.869
desperation, loss of sanity maybe, Hank just

00:19:53.869 --> 00:19:58.309
started singing. I don't know if it was something

00:19:58.309 --> 00:20:02.890
he was improvising or if this was an actual song,

00:20:03.089 --> 00:20:07.109
but the lyrics were, if you leave us alone, we

00:20:07.109 --> 00:20:09.569
will leave you alone, and we'll all go home in

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the morning. Oh, it's so good. What an improv

00:20:15.269 --> 00:20:19.930
line. You think he just had that locked and loaded?

00:20:20.089 --> 00:20:22.890
Or you think he was just like, I got to make

00:20:22.890 --> 00:20:26.329
something up right now? I don't know if he was

00:20:26.329 --> 00:20:29.410
trying to calm himself down or if he was trying

00:20:29.410 --> 00:20:33.769
to calm down the Bigfoots. If he was trying to

00:20:33.769 --> 00:20:37.630
lull them into... Or maybe the best defense is

00:20:37.630 --> 00:20:42.230
confusion. Maybe just stun them long enough with

00:20:42.230 --> 00:20:43.950
your singing so you could fucking open fire on

00:20:43.950 --> 00:20:47.470
them. Yeah, maybe that could be it. I don't know,

00:20:47.509 --> 00:20:51.009
but I'm sure you're not expecting this. It works.

00:20:51.970 --> 00:20:55.049
The pounding, the rocks, the attempted roof collapse,

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like it all stopped as soon as he started singing

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songs. I mean, if it didn't work. do you think

00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:03.940
it would be such a crucial part of the story?

00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:05.960
That would be amazing if like halfway through

00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:07.900
the story was like, and this dude started singing

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and then they got crushed. Well, I think it would

00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.619
be a very essential part of the story if he started

00:21:13.619 --> 00:21:16.240
singing the song and then he was the only one

00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:19.059
that got murdered almost immediately by a Bigfoot.

00:21:19.099 --> 00:21:27.640
Yeah. Yeah. Start singing. They're like, oh,

00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:30.880
what is that horrible sound? Kill it. Kill it

00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.480
more than we were trying to kill it before. They

00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:37.299
bring in other Bigfoots. It's no longer four.

00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:39.599
It's like 16 now, and they just fucking quarter

00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:44.720
him. Bring in the reinforcements. This guy has

00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:51.240
a terrible singing voice. But even though everything

00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.200
had stopped, the men didn't let their guard down

00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.099
for a second. understandable like they just stayed

00:21:56.099 --> 00:21:58.359
put guns at the ready just waiting for first

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light so they could get the fuck out of there

00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.920
now when the sun finally cracked over the horizon

00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.259
the forest was dead quiet like they they sat

00:22:07.259 --> 00:22:08.740
there for a minute and just stared at the door

00:22:08.740 --> 00:22:10.519
they were probably expecting like another fist

00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:12.619
to come through it or something but when nothing

00:22:12.619 --> 00:22:15.200
happened and all seemed clear they unbarred the

00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:19.440
door and stepped out the cabin looked like shit

00:22:20.089 --> 00:22:22.670
There were rocks scattered all around. The walls

00:22:22.670 --> 00:22:24.990
were dented to shit. There was holes all in it.

00:22:25.069 --> 00:22:27.910
And there was just like chaos all around. Then

00:22:27.910 --> 00:22:30.829
Beck noticed something moving across the canyon.

00:22:30.970 --> 00:22:33.329
About 80 yards away, standing right on the edge

00:22:33.329 --> 00:22:36.309
of a cliff, was one of the creatures just watching

00:22:36.309 --> 00:22:39.730
them. Now Beck, not one to hesitate, raised his

00:22:39.730 --> 00:22:43.539
rifle, fired three shots. The creature staggered

00:22:43.539 --> 00:22:45.940
backwards and then just tumbled straight off

00:22:45.940 --> 00:22:48.660
the ledge and dropped nearly 400 feet into the

00:22:48.660 --> 00:22:51.400
ravine. And with that, they were like, all right,

00:22:51.420 --> 00:22:54.460
fuck that. They grabbed what they could and just

00:22:54.460 --> 00:22:57.519
got the fuck off the mountain, which is probably

00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:59.900
the smartest move they've made so far. I wonder

00:22:59.900 --> 00:23:04.339
how long that time period was between when all

00:23:04.339 --> 00:23:07.740
of the chaos stopped and then this creature just

00:23:07.740 --> 00:23:11.009
decided, you know what? I'm going to go do hot

00:23:11.009 --> 00:23:12.970
yoga on the side of this cliff, and I'm going

00:23:12.970 --> 00:23:15.970
to just chill out for a little bit. And then

00:23:15.970 --> 00:23:18.269
all of a sudden, he finishes his workout, and

00:23:18.269 --> 00:23:20.529
he stands up and just bop, bop, bop. And then

00:23:20.529 --> 00:23:26.009
he falls 400 feet into a ravine. You went so

00:23:26.009 --> 00:23:29.269
hard up until that, and then you just got clapped

00:23:29.269 --> 00:23:33.789
a couple times. I don't know. But imagine, what

00:23:33.789 --> 00:23:39.069
if he wasn't even part of it? That's better.

00:23:39.549 --> 00:23:43.930
yeah he's just waking up along with the rest

00:23:43.930 --> 00:23:45.690
of the forest and he's like all right time to

00:23:45.690 --> 00:23:48.450
you know just look out over the ravine oh there's

00:23:48.450 --> 00:23:53.789
such a great he was the guy when the squatches

00:23:53.789 --> 00:23:57.009
held their town meeting who was like no i'm all

00:23:57.009 --> 00:24:00.069
about peace man let's not go after these guys

00:24:00.069 --> 00:24:02.470
maybe they're really nice and they're like no

00:24:02.470 --> 00:24:05.930
fuck you dude we're gonna kick their ass and

00:24:05.930 --> 00:24:09.779
then He was in his hot yoga session, and he was

00:24:09.779 --> 00:24:12.880
like, ah, peace and love, and then just got fucking

00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:15.460
clapped off the side of a ravine. He was the

00:24:15.460 --> 00:24:17.380
voice of reason in all of it, and he was actually

00:24:17.380 --> 00:24:19.740
going out onto the cliffside to make sure that

00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:25.299
the campers were still alive. He sees them come

00:24:25.299 --> 00:24:28.980
out, sighs a breath of relief, and then immediately

00:24:28.980 --> 00:24:32.339
just gets popped three times. That sucks, dude.

00:24:32.380 --> 00:24:38.170
You guys okay? So, yeah, so they murked that

00:24:38.170 --> 00:24:40.430
dude, and then they got off the mountain, and

00:24:40.430 --> 00:24:42.569
they hiked as fast and as quietly as they could

00:24:42.569 --> 00:24:44.690
until they hit Spirit Lake, where there's like

00:24:44.690 --> 00:24:47.529
a ranger station there. So they barged in there

00:24:47.529 --> 00:24:50.289
fucking dirty, exhausted, probably looking absolutely

00:24:50.289 --> 00:24:52.650
insane, and they told the rangers everything.

00:24:53.210 --> 00:24:55.569
The pounding, the rock throwing, the glowing

00:24:55.569 --> 00:24:58.990
eyes, the arm through the wall. The men called

00:24:58.990 --> 00:25:00.809
whatever was attacking them mountain devils,

00:25:00.809 --> 00:25:03.190
which, not going to lie, makes you sound insane

00:25:03.190 --> 00:25:06.859
no matter what, I feel like. Yeah. It's not a

00:25:06.859 --> 00:25:10.099
great, yeah. Now, the ranger, to his credit,

00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:14.900
he did listen and wrote it all down, but he didn't

00:25:14.900 --> 00:25:19.000
buy it. But he did admit that the men were clearly

00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:21.480
terrified, and whatever they had seen, it sure

00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:24.660
did spook them. When the men finally made it

00:25:24.660 --> 00:25:26.460
back down to Kelso, which is where they're originally

00:25:26.460 --> 00:25:29.779
from, word had already spread, like within days.

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.589
The newspapers had headlines like, Fight with

00:25:33.589 --> 00:25:36.450
big apes reported by minors from the Oregonian

00:25:36.450 --> 00:25:38.650
and others that read guerrilla men terrorize

00:25:38.650 --> 00:25:42.069
gold claim and mountain devils bombard prospector's

00:25:42.069 --> 00:25:45.730
cabin. All pretty good headlines, if you ask

00:25:45.730 --> 00:25:50.710
me. Yeah, word travels fast. Son of a bitch.

00:25:50.950 --> 00:25:52.509
And with all this media attention happening,

00:25:52.630 --> 00:25:55.599
this is where... You know, you get the normal

00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:57.940
fun that begins. You got reporters, curiosity

00:25:57.940 --> 00:26:00.079
seekers, and would -be monster hunters flooded

00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.059
Mount St. Helens wilderness. Some were packing

00:26:03.059 --> 00:26:06.460
rifles. Some brought elephant guns because apparently

00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:09.740
you need, like, safari -level firepower to bring

00:26:09.740 --> 00:26:14.799
down a fucking Bigfoot. I mean, if they had heard

00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:19.660
about them firing just regular shots at these

00:26:19.660 --> 00:26:21.500
things and they weren't getting taken down, I

00:26:21.500 --> 00:26:25.630
think that's logical. We need more firepower.

00:26:25.769 --> 00:26:29.809
That's pretty valid. Yeah, the papers dub this

00:26:29.809 --> 00:26:34.509
the Great Ape Hunt of 1924. And apparently like

00:26:34.509 --> 00:26:36.710
a dude from England even showed up for all this.

00:26:36.829 --> 00:26:38.950
So it became like an international thing, I guess.

00:26:38.970 --> 00:26:42.450
So that's fun. Now, spoiler alert, no one shot

00:26:42.450 --> 00:26:45.710
a Bigfoot, which is a bummer. But one cool thing

00:26:45.710 --> 00:26:47.869
to come from the attack is that the canyon where

00:26:47.869 --> 00:26:50.990
the men made their stand against the evil Sasquatches.

00:26:51.819 --> 00:26:55.579
is now officially known as Ape Canyon. It got

00:26:55.579 --> 00:26:58.019
its name because of this incident, which is pretty

00:26:58.019 --> 00:27:01.299
cool, I guess. Very cool. Yeah. Absolutely. I

00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:05.440
mean, why name anything after, you know, I don't

00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.160
know, some fucking politician when you can name

00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.460
it after a fucking cool ape extravaganza that

00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:12.859
happened where people almost died. That's way

00:27:12.859 --> 00:27:16.180
cooler. Right? Now, at the same time that the

00:27:16.180 --> 00:27:18.420
news broke about the attack in the papers and

00:27:18.420 --> 00:27:20.240
everyone decided to go into the woods looking

00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.779
for Bigfoot, Ranger William Welch and John Huffman

00:27:23.779 --> 00:27:26.220
hiked up to the site to investigate. Now, they

00:27:26.220 --> 00:27:28.319
found the cabin where the attack had supposedly

00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.259
been, and it was a little battered, and it was

00:27:31.259 --> 00:27:34.240
clearly abandoned in a hurry, but not the war

00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.400
zone that the men in the papers made it out to

00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.839
be. Like, they found, you know, a couple of rocks.

00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:41.440
They found some footprints, but nothing crazy.

00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:43.359
They didn't find any blood, no hair, and there

00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.380
was no body at the bottom of the canyon where

00:27:45.380 --> 00:27:47.940
Beck claimed that he shot one and it fell. You

00:27:47.940 --> 00:27:50.319
know, who knows? I'm going to need blood and

00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.619
hair. Maybe I'm going to need blood and hair.

00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:57.900
Well, there was none of that. But maybe the Bigfoots,

00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:02.359
maybe if one of them dies, they know and they

00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:06.359
hide the body. I don't know. Oh, yeah. That's

00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:12.400
just Bigfoot rule. Maybe. Hide the body. To the

00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.380
Rangers, it just looked like five men scared

00:28:15.380 --> 00:28:17.380
themselves into a frenzy and then just fucked

00:28:17.380 --> 00:28:22.329
off. There was no real evidence. Now, back home,

00:28:22.390 --> 00:28:24.509
the locals didn't buy it either. They figured

00:28:24.509 --> 00:28:26.529
that the men were just pussies and got spooked

00:28:26.529 --> 00:28:28.809
by a bear or they were pranked by locals that

00:28:28.809 --> 00:28:30.549
were just throwing rocks at them from the canyon.

00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:33.250
And they pretty much just got roasted about it

00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:35.910
in the papers and by local police. Also, it turns

00:28:35.910 --> 00:28:42.369
out that these five miners, they were like...

00:28:43.450 --> 00:28:46.670
what's the word spiritualists like they they

00:28:46.670 --> 00:28:49.190
were already they're a big believer in like paranormal

00:28:49.190 --> 00:28:52.589
like they did like seances and like weird shit

00:28:52.589 --> 00:28:56.569
like that so all right this is lining up i for

00:28:56.569 --> 00:28:59.670
a second i was thinking these motherfuckers were

00:28:59.670 --> 00:29:02.170
tripping right like they they drank a bunch of

00:29:02.170 --> 00:29:05.630
ayahuasca they did some crazy shit and they're

00:29:05.630 --> 00:29:09.009
like the apes the apes yeah so they were they

00:29:09.009 --> 00:29:11.289
were already kind of The locals were already

00:29:11.289 --> 00:29:13.750
primed to not believe their story when they got

00:29:13.750 --> 00:29:16.109
back because who the fuck knows what was going

00:29:16.109 --> 00:29:18.250
on. But, yeah, they did, like, seances. They

00:29:18.250 --> 00:29:23.609
did all these fucking ghost shit. So not the

00:29:23.609 --> 00:29:26.210
most credible witnesses or storytellers, I guess.

00:29:27.369 --> 00:29:29.450
But still, every witness said that the men looked

00:29:29.450 --> 00:29:31.490
genuinely terrified when they came back down

00:29:31.490 --> 00:29:33.089
the mountain. But, again, that could just be

00:29:33.089 --> 00:29:35.690
the fact that they were probably fucking tripping

00:29:35.690 --> 00:29:40.500
balls and just had a really bad trip. The boy

00:29:40.500 --> 00:29:43.220
on DMT who cried ape. You know what I'm saying?

00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:51.059
But even with the skepticism and jokes, the story

00:29:51.059 --> 00:29:53.019
of Ape Canyon is still talked about to this day.

00:29:53.539 --> 00:29:55.900
Fred Beck, the one who claimed he shot the one

00:29:55.900 --> 00:29:57.559
off the side of the cliff, he doubled down on

00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:59.599
what happened and he insisted until his death

00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:02.299
that it was all true. That something real attacked

00:30:02.299 --> 00:30:07.220
them up there. Now, in 1967... This is like 40

00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:09.839
-something years after the ordeal. Beck self

00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:14.259
-published a short book called I Fought the Ape

00:30:14.259 --> 00:30:20.519
Man of Mount St. Helens. It repeated the whole

00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:24.140
night in detail. Really on the nose. It repeated

00:30:24.140 --> 00:30:26.259
the whole night in detail, but with a new twist.

00:30:26.460 --> 00:30:30.619
Are you ready for this? Now, Beck suggested that

00:30:30.619 --> 00:30:33.380
the creatures weren't just physical animals,

00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.789
but possibly... interdimensional beings. He thought

00:30:36.789 --> 00:30:38.809
that they could move between planes of existence,

00:30:39.150 --> 00:30:42.950
part of a spiritual realm, he said, and that

00:30:42.950 --> 00:30:45.210
his group's shooting one might have triggered

00:30:45.210 --> 00:30:48.650
the assault. And if I'm not mistaken, this is

00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:51.829
where the whole Bigfoot is interdimensional stuff

00:30:51.829 --> 00:30:55.150
came from. It came from this encounter. Okay.

00:30:55.509 --> 00:30:59.369
I think this is the first mention of it. Cool.

00:30:59.630 --> 00:31:03.200
Then when Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980, uh

00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.940
ape canyon was buried under like layers of just

00:31:05.940 --> 00:31:09.940
ash and fucking rock and shit but in the years

00:31:09.940 --> 00:31:12.660
that followed cryptid hunters historians and

00:31:12.660 --> 00:31:15.700
true believers all went like looking for proof

00:31:15.700 --> 00:31:19.440
that the cabin ever even existed and in 2013

00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.240
a team led by bigfoot investigator mark mursell

00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.000
i think is how you pronounce his name i don't

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.500
care uh claim they found it or what was left

00:31:28.500 --> 00:31:31.220
of it they found like some rusted nails uh broken

00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:34.200
stovepipe They found some spent rifle cartridges

00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.559
scattered amongst the dirt. It wasn't definitive

00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.839
proof of a monster devil's attack, but it was

00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:44.920
something. And today, hikers still trek through

00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.859
Ape Canyon, and people tell the story all the

00:31:47.859 --> 00:31:50.440
time. Now, whether you think the miners fought

00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.099
a family of Sasquatches or they got pranked by

00:31:53.099 --> 00:31:55.680
locals or hallucinated after too many nights

00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:58.900
in the woods, it's a fun story. I mean, I don't

00:31:58.900 --> 00:32:02.509
buy it, but it's fun. There you go, Colby. That

00:32:02.509 --> 00:32:05.410
is the story of the Battle of Ape Canyon, I guess.

00:32:05.569 --> 00:32:06.890
I don't know what you want to call it. How are

00:32:06.890 --> 00:32:11.730
we feeling about it? Yeah, pretty cool. I'm definitely

00:32:11.730 --> 00:32:18.029
leaning towards interdimensional. In any scenario,

00:32:18.109 --> 00:32:21.509
if we could just take it to the absolute millionth

00:32:21.509 --> 00:32:29.250
degree, it gets my pants tight. That's where

00:32:29.250 --> 00:32:30.930
we're going? You're going to go interdimensional?

00:32:31.529 --> 00:32:34.569
Yeah, I mean, because the only other route is

00:32:34.569 --> 00:32:38.009
to say, honestly, until the end of the story,

00:32:38.049 --> 00:32:40.549
I didn't even think that some locals were pranking

00:32:40.549 --> 00:32:43.809
them. And they're just like, you know, these

00:32:43.809 --> 00:32:46.869
fucking hippies, let's throw rocks at them. But

00:32:46.869 --> 00:32:50.650
even if that's the case of it, locals pranking

00:32:50.650 --> 00:32:56.660
them, that means that Beck shot two dudes. He's

00:32:56.660 --> 00:33:03.960
like two counts of attempted murder. Beck's a

00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:08.500
psychopath, dude. Yeah, which also holds some

00:33:08.500 --> 00:33:12.099
pretty cool weight in my eyes. A dude should

00:33:12.099 --> 00:33:17.500
be arrested. Yeah. But it could go either way.

00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:22.319
I like both extremes. I'm sure it was somewhere

00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:28.299
in the middle, logically. My sci -fi mind, you

00:33:28.299 --> 00:33:30.220
know, wants it to be something interdimensional.

00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.900
I feel like it's probably a combination of they,

00:33:35.019 --> 00:33:37.380
since they were like spiritualists, they probably

00:33:37.380 --> 00:33:41.900
fucking did some weird trippy shit and then locals

00:33:41.900 --> 00:33:44.559
pranked them. It was like a simultaneous thing.

00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.660
Oh. You know what I mean? Yeah, that makes sense.

00:33:48.779 --> 00:33:50.799
They were probably tripping balls trying to talk

00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.420
to fucking, I don't know, whoever spirit. Or

00:33:54.420 --> 00:33:57.940
whatever. And then the locals were like, fuck

00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:03.099
these dudes. And then just, you know? To me,

00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.579
that's way funnier. And then they said, it's

00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:08.440
the apes. It's apes. It's interdimensional apes.

00:34:08.460 --> 00:34:11.159
I know it. I fucking know it. Can I just say

00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.539
that naming your book, I Fought the Ape Man of

00:34:14.539 --> 00:34:18.460
Mount St. Helens is so fucking good. Yeah. It's

00:34:18.460 --> 00:34:23.119
so fucking funny, dude. Goddamn. But he's negating

00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.539
all of the other, and honestly, shame on you

00:34:28.539 --> 00:34:32.960
for assuming this ape's gender. What if it was

00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:38.519
a bunch of ape women? Or maybe they're sexless

00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:43.000
interdimensional travelers. They're all asexual

00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:47.420
hairy beings. Fuck you, Marianne. That was a

00:34:47.420 --> 00:34:50.349
different person, wasn't it? No, yeah, Beck and

00:34:50.349 --> 00:34:53.969
Marianne were different. Beck. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:54.389 --> 00:34:57.389
Hell yeah. And then he went on to, you know,

00:34:57.389 --> 00:35:03.869
just write a bunch of good indie music. Oh, shit.

00:35:04.050 --> 00:35:06.250
All right, Colby. Well, that's my story. That's

00:35:06.250 --> 00:35:11.010
all I got. That's it. So you're going... That's

00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:13.170
a great story. Thank you for putting that together.

00:35:13.550 --> 00:35:17.519
Well, so... The last time, not the last time,

00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:18.800
but one of the last times you were on, we did

00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.300
the Hopkinsville Goblins, which is one of my

00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:23.059
favorite episodes. I don't know if you remember

00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:25.460
that, where a bunch of little goblins attacked

00:35:25.460 --> 00:35:28.079
that cabin and the family just started fire.

00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.719
It's basically the same story, but with big foots.

00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.760
That's why as soon as people start firing, I'm

00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.599
like, yes, naturally. We fire at shit we don't

00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.380
know. Absolutely. Yeah. As Americans, our one

00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:44.820
thing is that if we don't understand it. just

00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:49.019
fucking shoot it dude shoot it shoot it shoot

00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:53.940
first ask questions later i don't care if it's

00:35:53.940 --> 00:35:56.739
a gobbler or a squatch it's going down exactly

00:35:56.739 --> 00:36:01.380
uh all right bud um yeah uh is there anything

00:36:01.380 --> 00:36:06.099
um i said that's the story i'm gonna i'm gonna

00:36:06.099 --> 00:36:07.820
do my thing and then you can plug your thing

00:36:07.820 --> 00:36:11.039
and then we'll end the episode hell yeah um if

00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:12.500
you want to follow us on instagram you can follow

00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:15.519
us at cryptic cocktail follow us on tiktok cryptic

00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.500
cocktail party leave us a five -star rating and

00:36:18.500 --> 00:36:22.400
review wherever you can and um yeah colby what

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:25.340
do you got going on bud um well you can follow

00:36:25.340 --> 00:36:30.300
uh my band lanterns on spotify we got some social

00:36:30.300 --> 00:36:34.900
medias doing some weird shit on TikTok because

00:36:34.900 --> 00:36:40.699
we're old as fuck. And maybe, you know, catch

00:36:40.699 --> 00:36:46.800
a local show. Other than that, yeah, that's what

00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.380
I got. And to be fair, it's not spelled lanterns.

00:36:50.380 --> 00:36:54.539
It's lanterns, but with no vowels. Yeah, we don't

00:36:54.539 --> 00:36:56.960
fuck with vowels. So if you fuck with vowels,

00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.739
see you later. We'll fucking see you later, guy.

00:37:00.860 --> 00:37:05.420
So it's L -N -T -R -N -S. Send the vowels packing.

00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:09.219
Get him out of here. All right. So with that

00:37:09.219 --> 00:37:11.559
out of the way, do you want to say goodbye? Sarge

00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.000
normally says goodbye and I love you to the audience,

00:37:13.099 --> 00:37:14.739
but I figured I'd let you take the reins on this

00:37:14.739 --> 00:37:18.300
one. He says I love you? Yeah, he says goodbye

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:20.800
and I love you to the audience. So do you want

00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:26.480
to do it? I also, I mean, I love you all. That's

00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.460
very sweet, Sarge. Love you, Sarge. Love you,

00:37:29.500 --> 00:37:33.920
audience. And go have fun. Go find a creature.
