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You are now listening to Cryptid Cocktail Party.

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Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of

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Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have

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a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive

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into the unknown. I'm your host, Dave, joined

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as always by my wonderful co -host, Sarge. How's

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it going, Sarge? I am fucking fantastic. Fantastic?

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Yeah, why not? I don't know. You know? It gets

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better than trash, I guess. Yeah, I mean, the

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world is on fire around me, but I'm okay. Well,

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I'm glad you're doing okay. despite i'm disappointed

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the rapture didn't happen there were some annoying

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dickheads i was really hoping i wouldn't have

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to deal with anymore dude i was that was a fun

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day for me i just kept going up to different

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co -workers and be like oh man surprised you're

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still here it was good here's your god has forsaken

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you oh yeah that was i'm trying i feel like I

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mean, this isn't the first rapture I've lived

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through. Oh, no, there's been so many. Yeah,

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but I mean, like, as far as, like, publicly well

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-known raptures, I feel like this is one of the

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bigger ones. Yeah, and, you know, it kind of

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came out of nowhere. I feel like nobody was talking

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about it until, like, a couple weeks ago. Yeah,

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I remember one of the first raptures I lived

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through. I forget what the group was, but there

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was, like, billboards and shit for it. Oh, yeah,

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and I was so happy when it didn't happen. I was

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just eating their tears. Was it like the late

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90s? It had to be like the 2000s maybe? Yeah,

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I think it was like mid -2000s actually. And

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they sold all their shit, which is hilarious

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to me. You fucking idiots. You morons. I don't

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even feel bad for you. You're so stupid that

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a rapture was coming and your first thought was,

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better get some money. Yeah, what are you doing?

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What do you need it for? Fucking idiocy. And

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they're fucking over everybody else because they're

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like, oh, it's going to be the rapture. You can't

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use that shit anyway. Dummies. Yeah, but they

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can't use the money. Right. So what are they?

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So what are they? Why are they? Just give it

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away. A good godly Christian. None whatsoever.

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Just give it away. Dude, Facebook Marketplace

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was popping off in the weeks leading up to it.

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So good. I want I wanted to buy all this shit

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and then sell it back to them at a stupidity

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mock up. Yeah. Didn't someone sell their house

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and the girl who bought it was like, I don't

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give a fuck. I'm not selling it back to her.

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Yeah, right? Why would you? The fucking Bible

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says you're not going to know when it's going

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to happen. Well, yeah, but I mean, there's context

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clues in the texts, right? No. Oh. I don't think

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so. I think the Bible specifically says no man

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shall know the... uh what is it the the hour

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or whatever i don't know yeah i'm just but like

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when your own book tells you that it's not going

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to be possible for you to know when the rapture

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is coming yet you still keep expecting it to

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happen well grifter's got a grift baby we all

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know how that and like it wouldn't be the first

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time that christians ignored the bible as they

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eat lobster and fucking cut their hair i don't

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know what you're talking about uh It's in Leviticus.

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You're not allowed to wear blended cotton. I

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know. I'm just fucking with you. Don't mansplain

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the Bible to me, all right? I'm Christiansplaining

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it to you. Is that a play on words? Yes, it is.

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I love this. I love this for us. I like that

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the religion that I'm named after is the one

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I hate the most. All right, Sarge. Well, luckily

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today's episode is not about... or war or grifting.

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Maybe some, I don't, no, there's no grifting

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in this, I don't think. What the hell are we

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supposed to be talking about then? You cut out

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all the fun shit. I know. There's also no mobs

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of armed angry villagers in this. God damn it.

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All right, well, I'll see you guys next week.

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I know. I mean, but this is something that you

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will enjoy. I think we've talked about it enough

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on the show. And I did say that we were going

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to eventually do an episode on it. So I figured

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what better time than now? What better place

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than here? Exactly. All right. All right. So

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memories, Sarge. We all have them. I'm sure you

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remember things from time to time. Periodically.

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Yeah. But how do we know if what we're remembering

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is the right memory we're remembering? Because

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remember, memories can be tricky. And sometimes

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our memories or what we think were. what we think

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we're remembering aren't memories at all. Or

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maybe they were. Oh, I know what this episode's

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about. God damn it, you son of a bitch, I'm in.

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But now, you fucked me up, Sarge. I'm sorry,

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I'm sorry. I just got really excited. Well, let

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me get through at least a paragraph before you

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interrupt me. All right, all right. I thought

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you were done because you paused. Because I had

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to breathe. Well, that's your fault. You shouldn't

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be breathing. Breathe in your own time. This

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is cryptid cocktail party time. Yeah, so I get...

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Talking Mandela effect, you fucking dickhead.

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I didn't say it. Yeah, but you let me get to

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the thing. Just don't get to the thing. We'll

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take it from the top. No. It's the magic of editing.

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We're past that now. All right. So everyone listening

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is, I'm sure, one way or another, familiar with

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the Mandela effect. Except for Nelson Mandela.

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He died. For real this time. He was alive when

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the Mandela effect started. Right. No, I know.

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So he had to have been aware of it at some point.

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Maybe he was also like 90. So, yeah. But you're

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familiar with it, right? Obviously. Oh, yeah,

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of course. I'm a victim of it. Okay. Well, maybe

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we'll find some new ones in here for you to be

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a victim of. So I figured what we would do is

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we go back to where it started, go over some

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of the more well -known examples, so on, so forth,

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theories. All the stuff that you've come to know

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and love when we talk about these types of things

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on Crypto Cocktail Party. So, you with me? Oh,

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yeah. I'm ready. Okay. Also, big shout out to

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Daw from Logo Lore with Daw. I got a lot of information

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from his TikToks because they're bite -sized

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pieces of information that I can easily digest.

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So, yeah. So, this whole Mandela Effect conspiracy,

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I guess you would call it. It was all started

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by a paranormal researcher. Go figure. Named

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Fiona Broom. fiona had a very vivid and very

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specific memory of nelson mandela dying in prison

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in the 1980s and it wasn't just some like vague

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thing that she thinks she may have heard in passing

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and it just kind of stuck with her like she remembered

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this shit in vivid detail like she recalled watching

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tv coverage of a massive state funeral somber

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newscasters reporting the event live massive

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crowds of mourners and speeches delivered by

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world leaders and she even remembered like the

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way she felt during it and the way like the world

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felt like the collective grief felt by everyone

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that, you know, the type that comes when any

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beloved figure like Mandela passes away. Right.

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The only problem here is none of that ever happens.

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Right. Nelson Mandela didn't die in prison in

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the 80s. He was released in 1990. He went on

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to lead South Africa as its first black president.

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And he did. He did eventually die in 2013. At

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the ripe old age of 95. Which is crazy. Considering

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I'm sure many people were trying to kill him.

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And he just fucking. Was like nah dude. I'm going

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to ride this shit out. I'm going to outlive all

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of you. So good for him man. But back to Fiona.

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So in 2009. After learning Mandela was very much

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still alive at the time. And hadn't in fact died

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nearly 30 years earlier. She was at a science

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fiction and fantasy convention. Because of course.

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And she brought up her memory of Mandela dying,

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and to her surprise, she discovered that she

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wasn't the only one. Other people at the conference

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said that they remembered exactly what Fiona

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did, the same funeral coverage, the same speeches,

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even the same sense of loss. And these weren't

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like half -formed thoughts and bits and pieces

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of information these people were recounting.

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These were like crystal clear memories of an

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event that never actually happens. Right. So

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after this realization that she wasn't alone

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in having this false memory of an event that

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didn't happen, Fiona decided to do some digging.

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She created a website that documented these bizarre

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cases of large sections of the population misremembering

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the same detail or event. The only thing she

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needed now was a name for this phenomenon. And

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since the whole thing started with the false

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memory of Mandela dying, she dubbed it... the

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Mandela effect. So if you're wondering where

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the name came from, it came from a paranormal

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researcher who went to a science fiction and

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fantasy convention, which is how all good names.

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I kind of feel like Mandela got the short end

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of the fucking stick here because there are people

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in the world right now that only know his name

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because of someone's broken brain. Yeah. And

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not for like the amazing things he did when he

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was alive. Yeah, no, it's, um, A man who genuinely

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suffered for the good of human beings throughout

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Africa. And everyone's just like, well, no, I

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thought it was Baron Stain Bears. He's much like

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Lou Gehrig's in that way. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah,

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but once the site launched, submissions started

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pouring in from all around the world. People

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began sharing other examples of things that they

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were absolutely 100 % sure they remember correctly,

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only to find out that they've been wrong this

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whole time. From small things like brand logos

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to movie quotes to things like massive historical

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events like the funeral of Nelson Mandela. Yeah.

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Over time, these shared false memories started

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piling up. And for some, like... who were experiencing

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it, it was kind of unsettling and it left them

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thinking like, if so many of us remember something

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in the exact same way, how could it not be true?

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Because like I said, it wasn't just the death

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of Mandela that people were misremembering. There

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are dozens of examples of people experiencing

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this effect. You ready to dive into some of these

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examples? Let's fucking go. I love this shit.

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So for instance, the most famous being the Berenstain

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Bears versus the Berenstain Bears. So I'm not

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going to lie. This one fucked me up because I

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grew up reading those books and I would have

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sworn like gun to my head that it was spelled

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Berenstain like Einstein with like an E in it.

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But it turns out it's actually spelled Berenstain

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with an A, which is just preposterous and I refuse

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to believe. No, it's Berenstain. I don't care

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what anybody says. That's how I remember it.

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Yeah, and it always will be. The other more well

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-known one is the 90s genie movie Shazam featuring

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famed comedian Sinbad. Yep. With this, people

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remember, like, the cover, the plot. Some claim

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they even remember specific scenes, even though

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I've never heard anyone even recount a single

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scene from it. But there's no movie that this...

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I mean, there's no evidence that this movie ever

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existed. Like, there's no copies of the VHS.

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Sinbad has said that he hasn't done a movie like

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this. Right. No clips online or, like, syndication

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on TV. Nothing. You can't find it on demand.

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This one, honestly... I never believed this one.

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I don't remember a movie, but I do have people

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who have told me that they specifically remember

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this movie, and I think they're crazy. See, the

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thing is, with this one, you remember in the

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90s when everyone wore those stupid pants? Yeah.

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That's what I think it came from. So I didn't

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put this in the script, but I know where it came

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from. It's a conflation between the movie Kazam

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with Shaq, but also Sinbad did dress up as a

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genie one time. It was for like a telethon or

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something. It was like a... bit for a thing in

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the 90s but we'll get into theories and all that

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stuff later okay um then you have the cornucopia

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in the fruit of the looms logo which never existed

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you also have this one fucking got me for sure

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you also have uh the monopoly man having a monocle

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that never existed really oh yeah that's not

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real um Looney Tunes, spelled Tunes, T -U -N

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-E -S, like in music and not Tunes as in cartoons,

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which you think it would be the logical fucking

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spelling because it's a cartoon. All right, here's

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one for you, Sarge. Instead of telling you what

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it is, I'm going to ask you this. What is the

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question that the Wicked Queen asks the mirror?

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Who's the fairest of them all? Well, like, what's

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the beginning part of that? Mirror, mirror on

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the wall. Wrong, Sarge. Really? The words mirror

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mirror is never said in that movie. It's magic

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mirror on the wall. Oh, okay. That's just me

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being stupid. But people remember it being mirror

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mirror. And everyone still says it as mirror

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mirror. Yeah, it's all repeated that way. It's

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the same thing with... Oh, well, you might cover

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this, so I'll hold my tongue until you... Is

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it the Luke, I am your father? Yeah. I didn't

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put that in there because that's whatever. Another

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movie quote. This one kind of got me. that people

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claim to be a Mandela effect is in Silence of

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the Lambs. Hannibal Lecter never says hello,

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Clarice. The line is actually good morning, Clarice.

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Really? Yeah. Damn. That one fucked me up because

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I could have sworn it was hello Clarice. That

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fucks me up too. Yeah, not great. And the list

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goes on and on and on. So what's going on here?

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Why are we misremembering these things? And why

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is it that so many people are also misremembering

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these things? Well, here's the thing. One of

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the biggest misconceptions around memory is people

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think it acts like a camera, that our brains

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perfectly capture events and replay them just

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as they happened only later. The reality of it,

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though, is that memory is reconstructive, not

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reproductive. Every time you remember something,

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your brain is pretty much piecing it together

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like a puzzle. And oftentimes, pieces are missing

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from that puzzle. So your brain fills in the

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missing gaps with whatever it just arbitrarily

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decides fits in that hole. Right. Over time,

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those filled in details start to become just

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as real as the original one. So when you or someone

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else swear the Monopoly man had a monocle, it's

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because your mind is combining the memory of

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Milburn money bags, which I learned is the Monopoly

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man's full Christian name, with similar images

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of rich cartoon men you've seen elsewhere, like

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Bartholomew Richard Fitzgerald Smith, better

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known as Mr. Peanut. I also learned that that's

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his Christian name. Don't assume Mr. Peanut's

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religion. That's his government name. Whatever.

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But he has a monocle, so you might just be conflating

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everything together. So our memories are reconstructed

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and pretty much just can't be trusted. Another

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mechanism our brain uses in our memory -making

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arsenal is something called confabulation. This

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is just a $10 word for your brain just making

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shit up without you realizing it. Yeah. Because

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our brains... they pretty much hate incomplete

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pictures. So when there's missing information,

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it'll just plug something in there that seems

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plausible so that the memory feels whole. Like

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for example, Febreze. Febreze is only spelled

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with one E and that looks weird. So our brain

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goes, nah, that can't be right. So it'll basically

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just like auto -correct it to Febreze with two

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E's because that makes more sense to us. And

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from then on, you'll... quote -unquote remember

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seeing the wrong spelling, even though it was

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never spelled that way to begin with. Does that

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make sense? I hate that. Does that make sense,

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though? Because you just keep describing things

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that are actively happening to me in my brain

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right now. How the fuck do you spell breeze with

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one E? I don't know. It's B -R -E -Z -E. Are

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you looking up to spelling it for breeze right

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now? No, no. Say that again. B -R -E -Z -E. So

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that's two E's. Yeah, but it's E -E that people

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think it's spelled. B -R -E -E -Z -E. Okay, okay.

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Wrong E that you're thinking of. So then three

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E's. Two E's in the middle where you would expect

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two E's to be. How's that? Right, okay. Another

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reason that people might be misremembering things

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could be the misinformation effect. This is what

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happens when your brain updates a memory with

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some wrong information after the original event.

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Like, for example, let's say you and a buddy

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went to a show and you swore that the band closed

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with like a specific song. But later your buddy

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says, oh yeah, that show was fun. They ended

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with... This other song. Now, if you keep hearing

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their version of events enough times, your brain

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will start to rewrite your memory. And now you

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will remember seeing them play that other closing

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song that your friend said they played, even

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though that never really happened. Right. It's

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the same way that, like, rumors spread. And the

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more it's repeated, the more it feels like it's

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true. Yeah, like the game of telephone, too,

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even a little bit. Yeah. Or like how, for some

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reason, we all just knew that Marilyn Manson

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got his bottom two ribs removed to suck his own

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dick. I don't know where that came from or how

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I think that's falling more into rumor territory.

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And we just kept propagating the rumor. But as

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I'm saying, it's, it's the same way. Like we

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repeat enough times. It just, people just assumed

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it was true. Yeah. Okay. Um, even asking questions

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in a certain way can change how you remember

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certain things. Like if I asked you, do you remember

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this black hat instead of did you see a black

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hat, your brain will be more likely to falsely

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recall seeing the black hat even if there was

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no black hat. Right. Yeah, because you're suggesting

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it. The power of suggestion can be very strong.

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Also, our brains, they just love patterns. We

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have a mental template for how things are supposed

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to be and look, and when details are fuzzy, our

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brain just defaults. to that template like with

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uh like with curious george he's a monkey right

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yep okay i hope so all right so you're following

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uh monkeys have tails so even though we have

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never seen a tail on curious george our brain

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just fills it in automatically holy shit he doesn't

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have a tail what the fuck is happening right

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now am i am i having a stroke maybe i don't know

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What kind of dickhead makes a monkey without

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a tail? Oh, man, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to

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fucking blow your mind right now. You fucking

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blew my mind. But it's the same thing with names.

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Like Berenstain matches common endings to names

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like Goldstein. So Berenstain doesn't fit that

00:19:31.549 --> 00:19:34.369
template we have, and our brain fixes it for

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us. Yeah, well, it's also weird. It is weird.

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It's not a common name. The Bearstain Bears?

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I mean, come on. Yeah. It's still preposterous

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and I still... It's Berenstain. It always will

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be. I'm not saying it the other way. That's dumb.

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And then there's just straight up conflation.

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Your brain taking two or more memories and smashing

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them together into one. That's all that is. But

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this is all just woke liberal science if you

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ask me, Sarge. I did... I did my own research.

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I was hoping you would do that. Here are some

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theories that I think can explain what's really

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going on here. One, we slipped into a parallel

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universe. This is like the big theory surrounding

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the Mandela effect. And it's really the only

00:20:26.369 --> 00:20:29.069
plausible explanation if you ask me. You see,

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in our original reality, Mandela died in prison,

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Sinbad made a genie movie, and Berenstain was

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spelled how it should be. But some unknown...

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event caused a split or a possible merge in timelines

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and now a portion of the world's population retains

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memories or absorbed from those different timelines

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and the evidence for this it's pretty sound sarge

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sound as fuck if you ask me it's the people's

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memories sarge that's the proof okay okay yeah

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because our memories are infallible Yeah. Which

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is why I always know where my keys are. Always.

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Yeah. As we just learned, our memories are perfect.

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And this theory is perfect because technically

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you can't disprove it. Right. So it's kind of

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the perfect theory. I actually, so I do have

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something to add here. The minute you, I realized

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we were talking about the Mandela effect. I,

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I love YouTube, but I don't like normal YouTube.

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I like fucking weird YouTube, like Sovereign

00:21:33.099 --> 00:21:36.680
Citizens. I love watching these idiots get owned

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when the police finally just arrest them and

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bust out their window. It's fun. I don't like

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it when police are violent to most people, but

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when someone is so confidently wrong, it is like

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a nice byproduct. So there's a guy from Canada

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named Mark Parhar. What was it? Mark Parhar?

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Parhar? P -A -R -H -A -R. Love it. awful day

00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:03.589
oh mac m -a -k is his first name that's even

00:22:03.589 --> 00:22:05.329
worse it doesn't matter he's dead anyway yeah

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so um what happened is mac aside from being a

00:22:10.390 --> 00:22:14.390
moron in a number of different ways yeah uh he

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was on this show debating i think it was flat

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earth okay because i mean you can't be a sovereign

00:22:22.029 --> 00:22:24.789
citizen and not be full -on stupid well yeah

00:22:24.789 --> 00:22:27.829
i mean the two kind of go hand in hand And so

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he was making an argument, and this is when I

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learned this theory that you're talking about.

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He was making an argument that they were changing

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the letters in our books so that words that we

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thought were spelled one way were spelled another

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way. Sarge, you might be getting ahead of yourself.

00:22:48.509 --> 00:22:50.930
All right, I'm going to stop talking then. But

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look up Mac Parhar. And all of the stupid things

00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.960
he did because his final act of stupidity. Did

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he go out Bill Cooper style? No, he he he's not

00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.680
bright enough for that kind of an exit. What

00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:08.920
he actually did was he refused to accept that

00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:12.099
COVID was real. Yeah. And therefore took zero

00:23:12.099 --> 00:23:15.400
precautions and then died of COVID. Well, yeah,

00:23:15.460 --> 00:23:18.480
that's again, sovereign citizen flat earth. Obviously,

00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.880
you got hit the trifecta with COVID denial. He

00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:24.819
did us all a favor. Yeah, it all tracks. Some

00:23:24.819 --> 00:23:29.900
problems solve themselves. Yeah. Another theory

00:23:29.900 --> 00:23:32.920
that is also 100 % plausible is that when the

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Large Hadron Collider at CERN went online in

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2008 and just started smashing particles together

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at near light speed, it just sort of straight

00:23:41.180 --> 00:23:45.559
up broke reality. I'm mildly open to this theory,

00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.640
actually. Some think that by ramming atoms together

00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.920
at breakneck speeds, CERN accidentally ripped

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a hole in space -time or merged timelines or

00:23:54.779 --> 00:23:57.400
reset the universe itself. This theory is kind

00:23:57.400 --> 00:23:59.859
of all over the place. And that maybe the Mandela

00:23:59.859 --> 00:24:02.460
effect is just a side effect of one or more of

00:24:02.460 --> 00:24:04.400
those things happening. Again, there's no evidence

00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.400
for this. And the energy levels at the LHC are

00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.299
nowhere near what would be required to, quote

00:24:10.299 --> 00:24:13.599
-unquote, destabilize reality. That's what they

00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.420
want you to think. Exactly. I was just about

00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:21.619
to say that. Great minds think alike. Other theories

00:24:21.619 --> 00:24:23.619
that people love to connect to the Mandela effect

00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:26.440
is that we're living in a simulation and that

00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:28.480
some of these glitches we're experiencing is

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just like quality of life patches or like bugs

00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.759
in the code. Some even take this further and

00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:35.559
suggest that whoever's running the simulation

00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:38.279
is just fucking with us, like subtly changing

00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.759
small details to see how we react to them. Well,

00:24:41.859 --> 00:24:44.240
if I could speak on the behalf of humanity, can

00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:46.759
we remove the MAGA update? Because it really

00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.289
hasn't helped anyone. Well, maybe we don't know

00:24:49.289 --> 00:24:53.309
what's coming. Maybe the next expansion pack

00:24:53.309 --> 00:24:56.930
is going to be fucking bonkers. You just haven't

00:24:56.930 --> 00:25:02.089
got it. You know, it's like a GTA 5, GTA 6. It's

00:25:02.089 --> 00:25:05.109
going to take a few years before when it comes.

00:25:05.930 --> 00:25:08.710
Better be ready, baby. I also want to know what

00:25:08.710 --> 00:25:11.089
update led to mullets coming back because I would

00:25:11.089 --> 00:25:13.769
like for those to go away as well. People haven't

00:25:13.769 --> 00:25:16.250
followed them. They're the worst. It's fine.

00:25:18.089 --> 00:25:20.049
Then you have what is probably the most paranoid

00:25:20.049 --> 00:25:22.890
theory of them all, and that is that the Mandela

00:25:22.890 --> 00:25:25.009
effect isn't just faulty memories or parallel

00:25:25.009 --> 00:25:27.869
worlds or time travelers fucking with us, which

00:25:27.869 --> 00:25:30.470
is another theory that we didn't get into. No,

00:25:30.470 --> 00:25:32.670
Sarge. What's really happening here is that the

00:25:32.670 --> 00:25:35.390
world's most powerful entities, like the government,

00:25:35.549 --> 00:25:39.049
corporations, shadowy elites, are rewriting little

00:25:39.049 --> 00:25:41.490
details of history and pop culture to mess with

00:25:41.490 --> 00:25:43.930
our perception of reality. And for what reason?

00:25:44.819 --> 00:25:47.480
If they make you question something as simple

00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:50.599
as a logo or a line from a movie, how much easier

00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:52.660
would it be to manipulate your beliefs about

00:25:52.660 --> 00:25:55.880
bigger things? Now, in conspiracy forums, this

00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.079
is known as gaslighting at scale. This is a conspiracy

00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.279
that starts at the top and goes all the way to

00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:03.160
the bottom, with some people accusing Reddit

00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.700
mods of being agents or bots that are working

00:26:06.700 --> 00:26:09.019
to shut down any discussion on the matter and

00:26:09.019 --> 00:26:12.200
discredit the believers. One viral post said,

00:26:12.259 --> 00:26:15.799
quote, 90 % of the main Mandela effect sub is

00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.539
AI or government employees trying to cover up

00:26:18.539 --> 00:26:23.680
the truth, end quote. Amazing. Amazing. Of course

00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.059
it is. Of course it is. Why wouldn't it be? Yeah,

00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:28.000
obviously. And you're crazy for not thinking

00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:29.839
that. That's what I'm saying. Now, again, of

00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.220
course, there's no evidence for any of that.

00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:35.799
Plus, the logistics of secretly altering every

00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:39.460
copy of every book, movie, ad, or logo worldwide

00:26:39.460 --> 00:26:44.150
is a wild concept. To say the least. I feel like

00:26:44.150 --> 00:26:47.549
it's harder than most people would think. I feel

00:26:47.549 --> 00:26:49.049
like people don't realize that conspiracies on

00:26:49.049 --> 00:26:51.609
a mass scale just don't work. I feel like the

00:26:51.609 --> 00:26:53.990
people who believe this have never led a large

00:26:53.990 --> 00:26:56.569
group of people before. I guess. I don't know.

00:26:56.769 --> 00:26:59.789
Because you would know immediately how impossible

00:26:59.789 --> 00:27:04.170
it is for every single person in that group to

00:27:04.170 --> 00:27:07.430
maintain the same message. Yeah. Or keep the

00:27:07.430 --> 00:27:10.109
secret. You know what I mean? It's impossible.

00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:12.619
I feel like a conspiracy of more than like four

00:27:12.619 --> 00:27:15.039
people, even then you're pushing it. One of those

00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:16.640
people is going to say something to someone.

00:27:17.500 --> 00:27:21.519
There was a university in England. I know it's

00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.220
one of like the really big prestigious ones.

00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:24.619
I just can't remember the name of it, but they

00:27:24.619 --> 00:27:29.019
actually have a mathematical equation that talks

00:27:29.019 --> 00:27:32.599
about or that disproves conspiracy simply by

00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:38.809
dividing the time. Yeah. I'm sorry. determining

00:27:38.809 --> 00:27:40.769
the time that it would take for a conspiracy

00:27:40.769 --> 00:27:44.470
to get out to the general public and it's divided

00:27:44.470 --> 00:27:48.150
by the amount of people in that organization

00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:51.809
so for instance i think with the moon landing

00:27:51.809 --> 00:27:55.349
it basically would have taken like six months

00:27:55.349 --> 00:27:59.130
for that to get out because there's so many people

00:27:59.130 --> 00:28:02.210
involved like yeah it's fucking stupid but yeah

00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:05.759
but in reality the mandala effect it's literally

00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:07.799
just that our memories are garbage and not as

00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.960
reliable as we think they are. False, false memories

00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.799
are a very well documented and well studied phenomenon.

00:28:14.859 --> 00:28:17.240
And when you scale them up across billions of

00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.380
people who grew up with the same like pop culture

00:28:19.380 --> 00:28:22.079
and shit, you get the Mandela effect. It's not

00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.039
like reality shifting. It's just now that we

00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:26.380
have the internet, more people could talk about

00:28:26.380 --> 00:28:29.650
how they forgot something. Yeah. Yeah. And the

00:28:29.650 --> 00:28:31.569
name itself pretty much shows how this works.

00:28:31.650 --> 00:28:33.450
Like I said, Fiona Broome, the woman who coined

00:28:33.450 --> 00:28:35.910
the phrase, she remembers every detail of Mandela

00:28:35.910 --> 00:28:40.150
dying, the news coverage, the speeches, the crowds,

00:28:40.269 --> 00:28:42.609
and so did dozens of others. But there's a perfectly

00:28:42.609 --> 00:28:46.039
mundane explanation for her memories. In 1977,

00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:49.640
South African activist Steve Biko actually did

00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.279
die in police custody, and it was a massive international

00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.960
news event. Add Mandela's real -life health scare

00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.799
that he had in 1988, and then later the funerals

00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.160
of other prominent South African leaders, and

00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:02.920
it's pretty much just the perfect recipe for

00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.539
a Mandela effect situation. It makes total sense.

00:29:06.700 --> 00:29:08.460
Yeah, no one's jumping timelines. They were just

00:29:08.460 --> 00:29:11.240
blending overlapping real events into one very

00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.220
powerful false memory. It's source confusion

00:29:14.220 --> 00:29:17.640
and confabulation working in sync, if that makes

00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:21.160
sense. So the Mandela effect is real. It's just

00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:22.640
in our heads. It's not a glitch in the matrix.

00:29:22.779 --> 00:29:25.259
It's just a glitch in our garbage brains. But

00:29:25.259 --> 00:29:27.259
what makes it feel like it's something bigger

00:29:27.259 --> 00:29:29.759
is because it's not just you that misremembered

00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.319
some fucking shoe logo. It's that millions of

00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.660
other people did too, which makes it feel like

00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:36.519
it's evidence of something bigger when really

00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.990
it isn't. There you have it, Sarge. That's an

00:29:39.990 --> 00:29:41.349
episode on the Mandela Effect. I don't really

00:29:41.349 --> 00:29:43.049
know what the point of this was, but it was fun.

00:29:43.210 --> 00:29:44.769
I had a good time with it. It was fun to talk

00:29:44.769 --> 00:29:48.230
about. Yeah. I mean, I feel like sometimes we

00:29:48.230 --> 00:29:54.049
don't have to solve a thing or get to the bottom

00:29:54.049 --> 00:29:56.750
of it. I think, frankly, the Mandela Effect,

00:29:56.970 --> 00:30:00.029
it fascinates me because, I mean, we just saw

00:30:00.029 --> 00:30:03.349
in this episode, there's still shit that's happening

00:30:03.349 --> 00:30:07.670
to me. I could have been, if you, I would have

00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:10.529
bet every dime I had that Curious George had

00:30:10.529 --> 00:30:12.490
a fucking tail. Yeah, right, that one got me.

00:30:13.150 --> 00:30:16.609
That blew my mind. Like, the Fruit of the Loom

00:30:16.609 --> 00:30:19.450
logo, too. I could have sworn it was a cornucopia.

00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:24.589
I also believed that Sinbad did Shazam until,

00:30:24.690 --> 00:30:26.490
of course, the Mandela effect became popular.

00:30:27.490 --> 00:30:29.309
Berenstain Bears was another one that got me.

00:30:29.349 --> 00:30:32.839
I never thought Nelson Mandela died, so. Um,

00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.079
but maybe I was a little young for that. I mean,

00:30:35.099 --> 00:30:37.599
I, I was just a little boy in the eighties, so

00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.180
I wouldn't have known anything about that anyway.

00:30:40.859 --> 00:30:45.680
Um, but it's interesting to know about and kind

00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:50.339
of, because when I, so let me explain when I

00:30:50.339 --> 00:30:52.920
was in, um, when I was in the military, I was

00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.880
in the military police and I got, uh, some training

00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:58.599
on like police work and stuff like that. And

00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:00.180
one of the things that kind of beat into your

00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:03.339
head is that memory is very faulty. and so you

00:31:03.339 --> 00:31:06.220
can't really completely rely on eyewitness statements

00:31:06.220 --> 00:31:08.980
which is why you know every time there's an active

00:31:08.980 --> 00:31:11.400
shooter situation you're going to get people

00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.660
who say oh there were two shooters yeah and almost

00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:18.460
every time there's not two and it's just because

00:31:18.460 --> 00:31:22.059
people's brains work crazy especially in a traumatic

00:31:22.059 --> 00:31:24.119
situation and so you misremember things all the

00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:28.400
time yeah So you can't rely on eyewitness testimony

00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.339
alone in most cases because it's nearly impossible

00:31:31.339 --> 00:31:35.980
for you to accurately remember enough to go beyond

00:31:35.980 --> 00:31:38.359
a shadow of a doubt in a criminal case. Yeah.

00:31:38.420 --> 00:31:41.559
Or, you know, remembering the name of a couple

00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:47.960
bears. You know? I don't even remember people's

00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.779
faces. Like when I see mug shots and they're

00:31:51.779 --> 00:31:54.440
like, keep an eye out for this guy. Good luck.

00:31:54.890 --> 00:31:56.990
I'm probably not going to remember. I could talk

00:31:56.990 --> 00:31:59.390
to that guy right after looking at the mugshot,

00:31:59.450 --> 00:32:02.029
and I probably wouldn't put it together. Yeah,

00:32:02.089 --> 00:32:06.170
but it was fun. I feel like... I don't know.

00:32:06.269 --> 00:32:09.049
Mandela Effect is funny, but it's so fucking

00:32:09.049 --> 00:32:13.750
stupid. The fact that people believe... So this

00:32:13.750 --> 00:32:17.509
guy, Mac, he honestly believed and said this

00:32:17.509 --> 00:32:21.950
multiple times that he believed that they were

00:32:21.950 --> 00:32:26.710
changing... The books in his house somehow. Just

00:32:26.710 --> 00:32:30.269
specifically the ones in his house? Well, like

00:32:30.269 --> 00:32:35.390
everybody's. Okay. And I'm like, bro, we can't

00:32:35.390 --> 00:32:37.670
even fix potholes. Why do you think that they

00:32:37.670 --> 00:32:41.529
would put all of this effort into doing this

00:32:41.529 --> 00:32:44.329
to you? Control, we went over this. It's basically

00:32:44.329 --> 00:32:49.130
gang stalking, but on a massive scale. How? How

00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:52.329
and why? Because control is not enough for me.

00:32:58.690 --> 00:33:02.369
Georgia Guidestones. Yeah. You know what? You're

00:33:02.369 --> 00:33:06.210
right. That's just what it is. We wrapped it

00:33:06.210 --> 00:33:09.269
up. You said we didn't have to solve it. I think

00:33:09.269 --> 00:33:11.549
we just did. I think we did. Georgia Guidestones.

00:33:11.829 --> 00:33:13.750
Georgia Guidestones. All right. Well, we'll never

00:33:13.750 --> 00:33:15.390
have to deal with Mandela Effect again because

00:33:15.390 --> 00:33:18.710
they got blowed up. Is that the end? Is that

00:33:18.710 --> 00:33:25.339
the end? The end. Love it. All right. Yeah, thank

00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:27.359
you so much for listening, everyone. And if there's

00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.519
any Mandela effects that I missed or if there's

00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.180
some fucking crazy one that you think we should

00:33:32.180 --> 00:33:35.859
know about, hit us up. Maybe we'll do an update

00:33:35.859 --> 00:33:38.160
on some of the crazier ones or even the crazier

00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:39.700
theories. If there's more theories out there,

00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.660
let me know. We didn't even touch on all of them.

00:33:42.700 --> 00:33:46.259
I just chose my favorite ones. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.619
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00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.059
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00:33:58.059 --> 00:34:00.319
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00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.599
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00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.460
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00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:09.760
Google it. I'm the only idiot who's using that

00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:13.940
name. Yeah, that's all I got. All right. Well,

00:34:14.019 --> 00:34:15.550
I guess with that out of the way. Do you want

00:34:15.550 --> 00:34:16.809
to say goodbye and I love you to the audience?

00:34:17.989 --> 00:34:22.150
Hey, goodbye. And I love you, Berenstain Bears.
