WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.339 You are now listening to Cryptid Cocktail Party 00:00:40.130 --> 00:00:42.070 Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of 00:00:42.070 --> 00:00:43.609 Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have 00:00:43.609 --> 00:00:45.369 a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive 00:00:45.369 --> 00:00:47.350 into the unknown. I'm your host, Dave, joined 00:00:47.350 --> 00:00:49.829 as always by my wonderful co -host, Sarge. How 00:00:49.829 --> 00:00:54.929 is it going, Sarge? Ahoy, everyone! Celebrating 00:00:54.929 --> 00:00:58.270 the 50th anniversary of Jaws. Yeah, we are, baby. 00:00:58.270 --> 00:01:04.189 With a little seafaring greeting. This episode 00:01:04.189 --> 00:01:06.750 has nothing to do with sharks, but I just thought 00:01:06.750 --> 00:01:09.769 it would be... to say ahoy. Well, to be fair, 00:01:09.829 --> 00:01:13.629 you don't know that for sure. No, I don't. But 00:01:13.629 --> 00:01:17.349 based on the title of the show that is in the 00:01:17.349 --> 00:01:19.609 studio, I'm guessing it has nothing to do with 00:01:19.609 --> 00:01:21.569 sharks, but there might be some blood in the 00:01:21.569 --> 00:01:25.750 water. You're catching on quick to my little 00:01:25.750 --> 00:01:32.430 titling. Sometimes I have no idea what I'm looking 00:01:32.430 --> 00:01:34.569 at, and other times I'm like, oh, okay. But in 00:01:34.569 --> 00:01:37.400 the end, they make sense, right? Oh, they always 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:39.859 do. They always make sense. I got to keep you 00:01:39.859 --> 00:01:41.540 on your toes. I can't tell you outright, but 00:01:41.540 --> 00:01:43.700 I can't name the studio what the episode is going 00:01:43.700 --> 00:01:46.159 to be about. Where's the fun in that? Well, if 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.260 we did that, then we wouldn't be the best paranormal 00:01:49.260 --> 00:01:52.319 podcast sponsored by Narragansett Brewery. This 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:56.540 is true. Man, I missed you. Thank you, Sarge, 00:01:56.540 --> 00:02:00.000 for covering last week. I did not have explosive 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.739 diarrhea. I'm glad you didn't have explosive 00:02:02.739 --> 00:02:04.480 diarrhea. I'm glad you let everyone know. No, 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:08.960 my mom came down for the weekend, and she doesn't 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:11.039 come down very often, so I wanted to spend the 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:13.879 weekend with her. We did the most touristy shit. 00:02:14.620 --> 00:02:18.780 Yeah, but I mean, it's your mom. Yeah, but we 00:02:18.780 --> 00:02:24.360 speed ran it. Yeah. We went to the Museum of 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:26.659 Art just to take a picture with the Rocky statue. 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.080 okay like we did we did that kind of shit um 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.599 yeah perfect yeah we went to the fountain fountain 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.379 wasn't on because i forgot that uh the trash 00:02:37.379 --> 00:02:40.939 strike also also included the water with the 00:02:40.939 --> 00:02:43.639 trash strike but it also included like the municipal 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.580 like water people as well it's like all one so 00:02:46.580 --> 00:02:50.020 the fountain wasn't on so it's just insane yeah 00:02:50.020 --> 00:02:52.159 there's a bunch of kids climbing on it and shit 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:54.620 i was like that doesn't say that can't be safe 00:02:54.620 --> 00:02:57.879 yeah no but i mean It's Philly. What are you 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.340 going to do? It's wild that I always assumed 00:03:00.340 --> 00:03:03.360 since I grew up in New England and New Hampshire, 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.919 I wouldn't say we have rednecks, but we have 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:09.439 a lot of white trash. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.580 moving to a city, there'd be less of that. Bro, 00:03:12.699 --> 00:03:16.180 people are the same everywhere you go. No, there 00:03:16.180 --> 00:03:20.099 are rednecks in Boston. Yeah, it's wild. But 00:03:20.099 --> 00:03:22.520 no, it was good. But yeah, thank you for allowing 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.180 me to do that and taking over. And thank you, 00:03:25.180 --> 00:03:28.479 Maynard. for stepping up with you being way too 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:31.800 close to the camera dude i was just trying to 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:35.159 cut clips of that and i was like i can't look 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:41.740 at this anymore it is awful it looks like he's 00:03:41.740 --> 00:03:43.560 like it looks like the intro like fucking like 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:45.819 i don't know malcolm and this is something you 00:03:45.819 --> 00:03:48.319 see like i'm malcolm in the middle it reminded 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.840 me of every bus to rhymes music video in the 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:55.009 1990s it reminded me of Remember an Ace Ventura 00:03:55.009 --> 00:03:57.370 pet detective? I think the second one. Oh, yeah. 00:03:57.509 --> 00:04:00.110 Yeah, when he's looking in the drain. Yeah, it 00:04:00.110 --> 00:04:03.870 reminded me. It's like, fuck me, dude. It was 00:04:03.870 --> 00:04:09.550 unsettling. He's an unsettling guy. He is. I've 00:04:09.550 --> 00:04:11.729 never met him. Seems like a genuinely nice dude. 00:04:12.289 --> 00:04:15.150 He is a very genuinely nice human being. He just 00:04:15.150 --> 00:04:19.209 is weird. Yeah, very soft. And that's what I 00:04:19.209 --> 00:04:22.459 love about him. Yeah, he's very dry. I've noticed. 00:04:24.660 --> 00:04:30.240 That was kind of you guys. I keep thanking you. 00:04:30.259 --> 00:04:33.459 I don't know why. It's okay. It's alright. Everybody 00:04:33.459 --> 00:04:37.100 needs a weekend off. What have you been up to? 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.120 What are you getting into? Anything fun? Anything 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:43.420 exciting? Not at the moment. I am going to be 00:04:43.420 --> 00:04:45.579 taking my kids up to your old stomping grounds. 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.939 We're going up to New Hampshire in August. Hell 00:04:47.939 --> 00:04:50.949 yeah. for a few days. It's just me and my sons. 00:04:52.009 --> 00:04:54.550 We're going to be doing some boy stuff. Hell 00:04:54.550 --> 00:04:57.730 yeah. I'm sure fireworks will be involved at 00:04:57.730 --> 00:05:01.230 some point or another. There's a lake on the 00:05:01.230 --> 00:05:05.050 little cottage we're staying in. Hell yeah. Dude, 00:05:05.069 --> 00:05:07.509 nothing like fireworks over a lake, dude. Yeah. 00:05:09.310 --> 00:05:12.139 It'll be a good time. All right, Sarge. Well, 00:05:12.220 --> 00:05:13.980 I think it's enough catching up. We've only been 00:05:13.980 --> 00:05:14.699 away from each other for a week. Yeah, we've 00:05:14.699 --> 00:05:17.300 got to get into this. You know, I love you, but 00:05:17.300 --> 00:05:21.519 we've got to fucking move on, dude. All right. 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.779 All right. Today, Sarge, we're going to be talking 00:05:24.779 --> 00:05:30.639 about homeownership. Okay. All right. Now, homeownership 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.040 is something that, as a millennial, I will probably 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.240 never experience. But from what I've heard, it's 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.220 got its ups and downs. I mean, the upsides, you 00:05:37.220 --> 00:05:38.800 get to do whatever you want with the house. You 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.920 can fucking... Add an addition. You have a yard. 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.319 You can decorate however you want. Some of the 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.699 downs are like leaky roofs, cracked foundations, 00:05:46.939 --> 00:05:48.879 surprise plumbing problems that cost more than 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.279 your car. Conservative neighbors. Yeah, if you're 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:53.220 lucky, the worst you'll get is you'll have a 00:05:53.220 --> 00:05:55.199 neighbor who will dispute property lines with 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:56.519 you when you decide to put up a shed in your 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:58.560 backyard. Something like that. Right. Even though 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:00.379 it's clearly in your yard. Yes, of course. I 00:06:00.379 --> 00:06:02.220 don't know. These are just problems that I've 00:06:02.220 --> 00:06:04.660 heard. But here's the thing. Most of those problems 00:06:04.660 --> 00:06:07.120 have a fix. Like there's contractors, YouTube 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:10.480 tutorials. There's hitmen. There's sensor lights 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:12.240 that shine into your shitty neighbor's bedroom 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:16.300 window. Yes. But what do you do when the problem 00:06:16.300 --> 00:06:19.339 isn't structural, cosmetic, or Craig from next 00:06:19.339 --> 00:06:22.620 door, but something truly unimaginable? Like 00:06:22.620 --> 00:06:25.839 say, for instance. blood coming out of your floors 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:32.420 and walls for no apparent reason. I guess you'd 00:06:32.420 --> 00:06:40.139 need to establish a mop budget. Clearly you don't 00:06:40.139 --> 00:06:41.839 have an answer and I don't have an answer and 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.339 unfortunately for subjects of today's episode 00:06:44.339 --> 00:06:47.279 that is exactly what happened inside their home 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.300 in September of 1987. So today Sarge we are going 00:06:50.300 --> 00:06:52.600 to be digging into the case of the bleeding house 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:54.319 of Atlanta. Is this something you're familiar 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:57.839 with at all? Actually no. No it's not. I'm very 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.480 excited. I figured you being a fan of like Kentucky 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.560 meat showers and shit like that that a bleeding 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:03.939 house would be something that was right up your 00:07:03.939 --> 00:07:07.720 alley. you know you'd think but i i'm not i'm 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:10.240 unfamiliar with houses that get their periods 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:13.879 i see that's surprising to me i assume like this 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:15.699 would be like your kind of paranormal shit like 00:07:15.699 --> 00:07:18.399 just like unexplainable shit i i love it i just 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.240 i haven't come across it yet i i heard that birth 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:24.899 control pills help though i don't know where 00:07:24.899 --> 00:07:27.600 you would put it in a house Garbage disposal? 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.959 I don't know. Flush down the toilet? No. I'm 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:33.779 just trying to think of orifices in a house. 00:07:33.819 --> 00:07:36.699 I have no idea. But also in researching this, 00:07:36.740 --> 00:07:39.100 I found out that this happens more than you think. 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.220 There's a lot of cases of this. And I almost 00:07:41.220 --> 00:07:44.199 did like a bunch of them in this one. I can't. 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:45.980 I'm going to stick to one. Maybe we'll cover 00:07:45.980 --> 00:07:49.000 some other ones. Okay. All right. You ready to 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:52.079 get this party started? I'm more ready than ever. 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:54.779 Okay, so to get this party started, what we got 00:07:54.779 --> 00:07:56.720 to do is we got to go back to September 8th, 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:00.319 1987. Just a regular Tuesday night in the home 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.560 of William and Minnie Winston, an elderly couple 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:06.199 in their 70s living at 1114 Fountain Drive in 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.579 Atlanta. That's a bad name for a bloody house. 00:08:11.740 --> 00:08:17.899 Fountain Drive. I genuinely didn't even put that 00:08:17.899 --> 00:08:19.819 together, but that's really, that's deeply funny. 00:08:23.459 --> 00:08:26.519 Now, at around 1130, Minnie is finishing up her 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.680 nightly routine. Shit, shower, shave. You know, 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.519 she was just getting ready. She's just blasting 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:35.720 the toilet, getting ready, making a messy cobbler. 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.360 She was getting out of the bath when she steps 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.539 in something sticky on the bathroom floor. Now, 00:08:41.539 --> 00:08:43.700 understandably, she's a little confused. I assume 00:08:43.700 --> 00:08:46.659 whatever it was wasn't there before she got in 00:08:46.659 --> 00:08:48.720 the bath. I hope it wasn't there after she shit. 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.529 I mean, before. Which one is it, Sarge? Maybe 00:08:52.529 --> 00:08:55.549 she's just not good at wiping. She's just got 00:08:55.549 --> 00:08:57.190 out of the bath. I don't think it... Well, I 00:08:57.190 --> 00:09:01.009 guess it was before. Anyways, whatever. But when 00:09:01.009 --> 00:09:03.490 she looks down to see what it was, she notices 00:09:03.490 --> 00:09:07.149 that this looks an awful lot like blood. So she 00:09:07.149 --> 00:09:09.610 calls out to her husband, Willie, who's laid 00:09:09.610 --> 00:09:11.610 up in bed with kidney issues to see if maybe 00:09:11.610 --> 00:09:13.710 he's bleeding or something. Like, he's fine. 00:09:13.850 --> 00:09:15.230 There's no cuts. Like blood in his pee because 00:09:15.230 --> 00:09:18.230 of the kidney issues? Maybe. I didn't even think 00:09:18.230 --> 00:09:21.519 about that, but that's good. Men don't be aiming 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:26.419 when they pee sometimes. Yeah, so she calls out 00:09:26.419 --> 00:09:28.919 to him to make sure that he's okay, but he hasn't 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:31.200 gotten up. He's fine, no cuts, no injuries, nothing. 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:32.679 Plus, I think she would have noticed if he came 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:34.600 into the bathroom and pissed while she was in 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:38.600 the bathtub. Right. Yeah. So he gets up, and 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.399 they both start looking for a source for whatever 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:43.019 this shit is that's coming up through the floor. 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:45.139 Now, as they go through the house, they see more 00:09:45.139 --> 00:09:47.990 of it. Red smears and droplets forming in the 00:09:47.990 --> 00:09:50.649 hallway, the kitchen, living room, bedroom, even 00:09:50.649 --> 00:09:52.730 in the basement and crawl spaces. It's starting 00:09:52.730 --> 00:09:56.429 to form everywhere. Some of it's running in streaks 00:09:56.429 --> 00:09:59.889 along the baseboards. Now, I'm not great at painting 00:09:59.889 --> 00:10:02.029 a picture sometimes in writing these episodes, 00:10:02.129 --> 00:10:05.129 so I'm just going to say that... this like what 00:10:05.129 --> 00:10:07.710 they were seeing it wasn't like blood splatter 00:10:07.710 --> 00:10:09.330 like you know i mean it wasn't like little droplets 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:12.409 like there were puddles of blood forming in their 00:10:12.409 --> 00:10:15.409 house and dripping down the walls like when the 00:10:15.409 --> 00:10:17.250 police arrived which we'll get into in a second 00:10:17.250 --> 00:10:20.309 they described it as quote a copious amount of 00:10:20.309 --> 00:10:25.809 blood which is not that's problematic so the 00:10:25.809 --> 00:10:28.090 winstons understandably start freaking out and 00:10:28.090 --> 00:10:31.429 call 9 -1 -1 cops and emt show up and we're like 00:10:31.870 --> 00:10:35.490 This is a crime scene for sure. Like, like somebody 00:10:35.490 --> 00:10:38.429 died in this house. Thing is though, there's 00:10:38.429 --> 00:10:40.889 no body. There was no intruder in the house and 00:10:40.889 --> 00:10:42.889 no one in the home was like actively bleeding 00:10:42.889 --> 00:10:46.049 at the time. So the cops checked the whole place 00:10:46.049 --> 00:10:48.129 looking for any sign of possible source for this 00:10:48.129 --> 00:10:50.750 blood. All the doors are locked. There's no broken 00:10:50.750 --> 00:10:52.870 windows. And they had a security system that 00:10:52.870 --> 00:10:55.269 many said had been armed since nine 30. So it's 00:10:55.269 --> 00:10:57.450 like two hours that it's been armed and they 00:10:57.450 --> 00:10:58.850 would, they would have heard something tripping. 00:10:58.929 --> 00:11:02.279 Right. It was tripped. So. It doesn't seem like 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:05.519 a crime took place. They ended up like inspecting 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:08.259 the pipes, the HVAC system, the addict. They 00:11:08.259 --> 00:11:10.460 checked Willie's dialysis machine thinking maybe 00:11:10.460 --> 00:11:12.220 like it was a leak in that. It was leaking or 00:11:12.220 --> 00:11:14.120 something like that. And it was like seeping 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:16.399 into somewhere and coming up through the floor 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:19.159 somehow. I don't know. But they also had like 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.019 they had no pets. They had no history of any 00:11:21.019 --> 00:11:24.019 vermin problems. I know sometimes if like a rat 00:11:24.019 --> 00:11:27.700 or raccoon or something dies in between like 00:11:27.700 --> 00:11:30.850 the. when they decompose it'll kind of seep through 00:11:30.850 --> 00:11:32.769 but they didn't find anything like that yeah 00:11:32.769 --> 00:11:35.629 so the police did what they could they took some 00:11:35.629 --> 00:11:39.009 photos snagged a couple like samples to go off 00:11:39.009 --> 00:11:41.990 for testing because hey it might not be blood 00:11:41.990 --> 00:11:46.990 you know could be yeah it could be uh paint paint 00:11:46.990 --> 00:11:50.389 like maybe like rusty water maybe a leaky something 00:11:50.389 --> 00:11:53.049 or other maybe there's a leak from the roof who 00:11:53.049 --> 00:11:55.919 knows i don't know yeah Either way, the forensics 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.879 test, it came back pretty quick, and unfortunately, 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:03.179 it was 100 % human blood. Oh, my God. It's not 00:12:03.179 --> 00:12:06.019 great. Did they keep, like, a sample so they 00:12:06.019 --> 00:12:09.460 could test the DNA? I don't know. Even what made 00:12:09.460 --> 00:12:12.879 it worse is that the blood was type O. The Winstons, 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:17.259 they were both type A. Okay. So now the police 00:12:17.259 --> 00:12:19.639 have to treat this like a full -on crime scene. 00:12:20.059 --> 00:12:22.519 But isn't, like, I think typo is, like, the universal 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.320 donor, isn't it? Yeah, maybe. Oh, see, the house 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:30.179 knew that Willie was sick. Just in case you need 00:12:30.179 --> 00:12:35.379 some extra. Exactly. Let me open up some wood 00:12:35.379 --> 00:12:39.200 blood. This is making me think about, I don't 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:40.460 know if you've ever heard of this, but there's 00:12:40.460 --> 00:12:43.940 vulture bees. What are vulture bees? I assume 00:12:43.940 --> 00:12:45.059 they're bees, though. So, vulture bees. Is it 00:12:45.059 --> 00:12:49.570 the honey, just blood? Will they make their nest 00:12:49.570 --> 00:12:56.990 out of flesh? This isn't real. I'm going to tell 00:12:56.990 --> 00:13:00.330 you right now, do not look this up because I 00:13:00.330 --> 00:13:02.389 looked it up and I couldn't eat for a couple 00:13:02.389 --> 00:13:05.610 of days. So they make their nests out of flesh. 00:13:06.389 --> 00:13:08.509 Now, do they make honey the same way bees do? 00:13:10.370 --> 00:13:15.409 Yeah. Is it blood honey? Yeah. I'm not going 00:13:15.409 --> 00:13:17.269 to lie, that sucks, but it's also metal as fuck. 00:13:17.909 --> 00:13:19.870 It's metal as fuck, and when you look at it, 00:13:19.909 --> 00:13:23.789 it looks like an H .R. Giger painting. Ooh, okay. 00:13:24.490 --> 00:13:27.610 I love that. It's like if bees existed in Hellraiser's 00:13:27.610 --> 00:13:32.950 universe. Like, I was looking at the nest and 00:13:32.950 --> 00:13:35.950 disgusted, but at the same time, like, fucking 00:13:35.950 --> 00:13:39.870 mystified. Yeah. I'm going to look that up. I'm 00:13:39.870 --> 00:13:41.429 probably very upset about it, but at the same 00:13:41.429 --> 00:13:43.330 time... Yeah, you're going to feel bad about 00:13:43.330 --> 00:13:46.419 what you see. Don't curse me. I told you not 00:13:46.419 --> 00:13:48.419 to. No, that's fine. I would never hold it against 00:13:48.419 --> 00:13:51.639 you. Yeah. All right. So, yeah. So the blood. 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:55.039 was tested came back typo the winstons they're 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.460 both type a so this means that the police like 00:13:57.460 --> 00:13:59.600 have to treat it like a like a crime scene now 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.580 you just have someone else's blood in your house 00:14:01.580 --> 00:14:04.559 so it makes sense it's a problem yeah now so 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.159 so now like a real investigation opens up more 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.720 photos are taken more samples collected they 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.039 ran the blood against like missing persons cases 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.460 local crime reports and even checked with like 00:14:14.460 --> 00:14:16.639 nearby hospitals and blood banks to see if any 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.179 blood bags had gone missing go in the hospital 00:14:20.179 --> 00:14:24.399 is anyone missing any blood well i think they 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:26.019 were thinking like if blood bags were missing 00:14:26.019 --> 00:14:27.399 someone could have been a prank we'll get into 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.779 some of the theories but a prank dude yeah i 00:14:30.779 --> 00:14:35.309 don't know i don't know But this is the late 00:14:35.309 --> 00:14:37.570 80s. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the 00:14:37.570 --> 00:14:39.850 channel. Today, we're going to prank some old 00:14:39.850 --> 00:14:43.070 folks. But the thing you've got to remember, 00:14:43.169 --> 00:14:45.129 this is the late 80s, and it's also the height 00:14:45.129 --> 00:14:48.529 of the AIDS crisis. So blood was pretty well 00:14:48.529 --> 00:14:52.649 guarded at the time. Stealing blood at this point, 00:14:52.750 --> 00:14:55.850 people would notice. And as far as I know, nothing 00:14:55.850 --> 00:14:58.409 was missing. And people didn't know a lot about 00:14:58.409 --> 00:15:01.090 AIDS either, so they probably were really worried 00:15:01.090 --> 00:15:03.149 that they had caught it. They had like caught 00:15:03.149 --> 00:15:05.990 something. Oh, I'm sure. Now, two days later, 00:15:06.169 --> 00:15:08.809 the Atlanta PD held a press conference and basically 00:15:08.809 --> 00:15:11.250 just like shrugged their shoulders. They admitted 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:13.330 that it was real blood in the house, that it 00:15:13.330 --> 00:15:15.190 didn't match the Winston's and that they had 00:15:15.190 --> 00:15:18.389 no fucking clue where it came from. One official 00:15:18.389 --> 00:15:21.549 just straight up said, could be a homicide. Could 00:15:21.549 --> 00:15:26.610 be a hoax. Could be. Could be. That's not helpful. 00:15:26.990 --> 00:15:31.279 No. But, like, with no evidence of either a homicide 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.879 or a hoax, the case pretty much stalled. There 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.320 was no victim. There was no perpetrator of a 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.659 crime. There was just no crime. Like, it was 00:15:38.659 --> 00:15:42.139 just a bunch of blood. God, that bothers me so 00:15:42.139 --> 00:15:45.360 much. No, the cops did keep investigating it 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.759 a bit, but with no leads, it was a dead end. 00:15:48.820 --> 00:15:51.019 Like, technically, the case stayed open, but 00:15:51.019 --> 00:15:53.500 what are they going to do? It's a bleeding house 00:15:53.500 --> 00:15:58.519 with no explanation. Yeah. How are you feeling 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.139 so far? I feel like you've made it clear how 00:16:00.139 --> 00:16:02.299 you feel about it so far, but I figured I'd check 00:16:02.299 --> 00:16:09.879 in. I feel like owning a house is a punishment 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:15.000 from God. Because every human being, if you look 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.940 at Maslow's hierarchy of need, right? Shelters 00:16:18.940 --> 00:16:22.320 right up there. It's a big one. And so you buy 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:24.740 a house thinking, okay, now I have this property 00:16:24.740 --> 00:16:28.129 that I own. But what it really is is just a hole 00:16:28.129 --> 00:16:30.929 you keep throwing money into. Yeah, that sounds 00:16:30.929 --> 00:16:34.090 about right. Because houses, even new ones, break 00:16:34.090 --> 00:16:37.029 and have ridiculous shit happen to them. Yeah. 00:16:37.490 --> 00:16:38.909 Again, that's why I'll never own a house. So 00:16:38.909 --> 00:16:42.830 owning a house is just, it's punishment. Is that 00:16:42.830 --> 00:16:45.429 what it is? Yeah. Now imagine all of a sudden 00:16:45.429 --> 00:16:47.950 it just starts bleeding. I mean, that's what 00:16:47.950 --> 00:16:49.850 I'm saying. You can't just fucking get a new 00:16:49.850 --> 00:16:52.419 house. This shit's expensive. Well, I mean, not 00:16:52.419 --> 00:16:55.080 in the 80s. You could buy one for, like, a button 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.759 in a pile of string, you know? Just whatever's 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:01.059 in your pocket at the time. Yeah. I mean, but 00:17:01.059 --> 00:17:03.539 also, they're fucking pushing 80. Like, I mean, 00:17:03.580 --> 00:17:05.480 I don't think they're just going to fucking sell. 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:07.599 What are you going to do? Yeah, you can't just 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:08.759 sell at that point. He's sick on dialysis. Like, 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.180 he can't just fucking up and go. Yeah, it sucks. 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:17.799 But it gets worse. oh good yeah not like the 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.319 blood house for the winstons i mean it's because 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:22.920 once news of what happened at the winston's house 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.019 made its way out of atlanta the news spread like 00:17:26.019 --> 00:17:28.230 wildfire i mean it's a house of Bleeding human 00:17:28.230 --> 00:17:29.509 blood, why wouldn't it? It's a bleeding house, 00:17:29.609 --> 00:17:32.309 yeah. So local reporters obviously jumped on 00:17:32.309 --> 00:17:34.589 the story immediately, but before long, it was 00:17:34.589 --> 00:17:36.769 picked up by national outlets as well as international 00:17:36.769 --> 00:17:39.349 papers. At one point, the story ran in papers 00:17:39.349 --> 00:17:41.730 as far away as Saudi Arabia, which is fucking 00:17:41.730 --> 00:17:44.690 wild. So it was kind of a big deal. No, news 00:17:44.690 --> 00:17:48.029 travels fast. Yeah, it's not great. And because 00:17:48.029 --> 00:17:49.769 of all this attention, crowds started gathering 00:17:49.769 --> 00:17:52.589 outside the Winstons' home. Glenn Danzig shows 00:17:52.589 --> 00:17:58.039 up trying to buy the place. Wasn't that, was 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.519 that an episode of. Yeah. All right. I had to 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.400 think about it. Blood in the front lawn. Yeah. 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.160 No. Yeah. So people just started showing up. 00:18:07.180 --> 00:18:09.000 News vans lined the street. Groups of people 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.119 would just stand on their lawn, hoping to catch 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:13.759 a glimpse of the house bleeding. Like, yeah, 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:17.299 I don't know. And for the Winstons who were elderly 00:18:17.299 --> 00:18:19.819 and also very private people, this was all very 00:18:19.819 --> 00:18:22.990 overwhelming for them. Minnie ended up becoming 00:18:22.990 --> 00:18:25.390 like the de facto spokesperson for the couple. 00:18:25.650 --> 00:18:27.910 She would answer questions from the press, but 00:18:27.910 --> 00:18:29.710 mostly she would, she was just begging people 00:18:29.710 --> 00:18:32.250 to stop showing up at their house, which is very 00:18:32.250 --> 00:18:36.150 sad. She seems like a very sweet old lady. Like 00:18:36.150 --> 00:18:38.349 the press shows up and she's got like a tray 00:18:38.349 --> 00:18:40.730 of cookies for them. Yeah. Some, some homemade 00:18:40.730 --> 00:18:44.250 lemonade. Yeah. Yeah. She, she told the local 00:18:44.250 --> 00:18:46.829 paper that they couldn't sleep anymore because 00:18:46.829 --> 00:18:48.809 the constant phone calls and knocks at the door. 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:51.440 As for Willie, dude's already in poor health. 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:53.799 He told reporters he didn't care what people 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:55.680 thought. He was too sick and too tired to be 00:18:55.680 --> 00:19:01.279 bothered with it, which, good for him. Interestingly 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:03.539 enough, that's how everyone in America feels 00:19:03.539 --> 00:19:09.359 right now. Just overloaded. Too much. Everything's 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:11.859 overwhelming. I don't want to... Whatever, dude. 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.240 Just do your thing. I mean, if my house started 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.660 bleeding right now, I'd just be like, thanks, 00:19:16.700 --> 00:19:24.529 Obama. But as the story spread, it wasn't just 00:19:24.529 --> 00:19:27.829 news and curious onlookers showing up. Paranormal 00:19:27.829 --> 00:19:29.930 groups started reaching out, offering to investigate, 00:19:30.170 --> 00:19:32.829 as well as self -proclaimed psychics who told 00:19:32.829 --> 00:19:35.190 the Winstons they sensed a demonic force in the 00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:37.269 house and offered to cleanse it for them. Dude, 00:19:37.309 --> 00:19:38.769 there is nothing worse than when the fucking 00:19:38.769 --> 00:19:40.950 psychics come out of the woodwork. Oh yeah, new 00:19:40.950 --> 00:19:44.250 grifters got a grift, baby. Well, thankfully 00:19:44.250 --> 00:19:46.930 the Winstons were smart and they declined both 00:19:46.930 --> 00:19:50.470 offers. Good. Yeah. As they should have. Yeah. 00:19:50.529 --> 00:19:53.309 And within a few weeks, the blood stopped appearing. 00:19:54.029 --> 00:19:58.089 It only did that one time. But with no developments, 00:19:58.390 --> 00:20:01.289 the story began to fade. The police had no answers. 00:20:01.349 --> 00:20:03.230 The media moved on. And everyone just kind of 00:20:03.230 --> 00:20:07.650 forgot about it. A little while after, things 00:20:07.650 --> 00:20:09.569 had died down and people moved on. Minnie was 00:20:09.569 --> 00:20:11.910 talking to a researcher or a journalist or someone. 00:20:12.009 --> 00:20:13.690 I don't know who she was talking to. But she 00:20:13.690 --> 00:20:16.450 tried to downplay the whole thing. telling them 00:20:16.450 --> 00:20:19.690 that it had just been rust or mud or dye from 00:20:19.690 --> 00:20:22.109 a new carpet, basically anything but actual blood, 00:20:22.269 --> 00:20:25.769 which it kind of contradicts the results of the 00:20:25.769 --> 00:20:27.490 blood. What the police said, yeah. Yeah, but 00:20:27.490 --> 00:20:29.170 I mean, people cope in different ways. If she 00:20:29.170 --> 00:20:31.809 doesn't want to believe it was blood, do whatever 00:20:31.809 --> 00:20:34.670 you got to do. She went on to say, quote, if 00:20:34.670 --> 00:20:37.130 it had actually been blood, I wouldn't have stayed 00:20:37.130 --> 00:20:40.430 in that house. But she did. She did stay in the 00:20:40.430 --> 00:20:42.619 house. Yeah. Unfortunately, Willie passed away 00:20:42.619 --> 00:20:45.720 two years later in 1989, but many lived in that 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:50.059 same house until her death in 2015 at the ripe 00:20:50.059 --> 00:20:56.140 old age of 104. Jesus Christ. She fucking, maybe 00:20:56.140 --> 00:20:58.319 she was, maybe the blood helped. I don't know, 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:01.480 but yeah, it kept it young. It's like Elizabeth 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:03.759 Bathory situation. That's what happens. Well, 00:21:03.819 --> 00:21:10.319 that was my first. it's like a fucked up fountain 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:12.980 of youth over there they excavate the basement 00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:16.140 and just find like the bones of hundreds of virgins 00:21:16.140 --> 00:21:21.240 dude i just i i uh you maybe just today while 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:24.400 i was writing this a cnn headline popped up on 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:27.299 my like notifications apparently there was someone 00:21:27.299 --> 00:21:29.440 dug up a septic tank in like ireland and there's 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.279 just hundreds of baby bones oh yeah what the 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.240 yeah Yeah, it was a it was a home. It was a home 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:39.039 for unwed mothers. Oh, that makes sense now, 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:41.420 I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Run by the Catholic 00:21:41.420 --> 00:21:43.380 Church, of course. All right. Yeah. Never mind. 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:45.619 Not as shocking as I mean, it's still shocking, 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:49.500 but not as shocking as it makes sense now. Yeah. 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:51.920 Yeah. And it's only the second worst thing the 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:53.680 Catholic Church has ever done to children. So. 00:21:56.460 --> 00:21:59.880 Oh, God. All right. But yeah. But as far as I 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:02.579 know, the house only bled that one time. It never 00:22:02.579 --> 00:22:06.279 bled again. And I think the house still stands 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.559 as far as I know. I looked up pictures of it. 00:22:08.579 --> 00:22:11.259 It's still there. Let's go stand in the lawn. 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:15.759 You should go there and throw tampons at it. 00:22:15.980 --> 00:22:18.180 All right. Well, before we do that, do you want 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:20.559 to dive into some theories and maybe some possible 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:23.099 explanations? Yes, I do. Very much so. All right. 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.559 Well, as I'm sure you can guess, with no victim, 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:27.940 no evidence of a crime or a source for where 00:22:27.940 --> 00:22:30.440 this blood could have come from, there was a 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:34.450 lot of speculation. Obviously. The first theory 00:22:34.450 --> 00:22:36.789 we got is that this was a hoax or that there 00:22:36.789 --> 00:22:40.609 was some sort of human -like interference intervention. 00:22:40.930 --> 00:22:43.730 You know, basically someone did this. I'm sure 00:22:43.730 --> 00:22:47.170 two 80 -year -old people just couldn't wait to 00:22:47.170 --> 00:22:49.049 take their bags of blood and spread them all 00:22:49.049 --> 00:22:52.349 over the house. Well, from the jump, the police 00:22:52.349 --> 00:22:54.650 had considered the possibility that the blood 00:22:54.650 --> 00:22:58.750 was deliberately placed there, either by the 00:22:58.750 --> 00:23:01.230 Winstons themselves or someone close to them. 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.180 It's the simplest explanation, so it makes sense 00:23:04.180 --> 00:23:06.519 that this is what people would immediately think. 00:23:06.859 --> 00:23:10.339 People like Joe Nickel and the Georgia Skeptics 00:23:10.339 --> 00:23:12.339 Organization, because of course that's a thing, 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.079 they outlined two possible scenarios. First is 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.720 that Willie Winston staged it. The theory being 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:22.039 that as a dialysis patient, Willie would have 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:25.579 had access to blood and or medical supplies, 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:29.119 and he used those to create this scene. Or, scenario 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:33.119 number two, A family member did it. One of the 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.779 Winstons' adult children reportedly worked in 00:23:35.779 --> 00:23:38.339 a medical facility, so they're trying to say 00:23:38.339 --> 00:23:40.779 that they could have had access to blood bags 00:23:40.779 --> 00:23:43.000 and placed the blood in the home either as a 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:46.400 prank or possibly make the Winstons appear confused 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:49.640 and unwell in an attempt to, I don't know, put 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.079 them in a home or something. I don't know what 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.750 they're... goal would have been for it but that 00:23:56.750 --> 00:23:58.670 those are the two i can't believe that the least 00:23:58.670 --> 00:24:01.410 believable thing about this story is coming from 00:24:01.410 --> 00:24:08.849 the skeptics look to what fucking end i don't 00:24:08.849 --> 00:24:11.529 know that that's just you know how it is they 00:24:11.529 --> 00:24:14.769 don't ever put reasons it's just this is what 00:24:14.769 --> 00:24:16.849 could have happened but why i don't know but 00:24:16.849 --> 00:24:21.539 it could have happened Skeptics are the worst 00:24:21.539 --> 00:24:23.920 sometimes. Skeptics are like conspiracy theorists. 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:25.740 They don't really flesh out their ideas. They 00:24:25.740 --> 00:24:27.920 just spout them. They're like, it's impossible. 00:24:28.299 --> 00:24:30.380 It couldn't have happened. It had to be a prank. 00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:34.859 Yeah. For reasons. Well, either way, both those 00:24:34.859 --> 00:24:38.559 theories have problems, obviously. Yeah, I think 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.660 someone would notice if Willie was sneaking out 00:24:40.660 --> 00:24:44.140 with a bucket of fresh O positive blood. Well, 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:45.440 that's the thing. First, the blood was typo. 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:47.720 Both Minnie and Willie were type A, which means 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.400 it couldn't have been Willie's or Minnie's. If 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:51.500 it was a hoax, that would mean that the hoaxer 00:24:51.500 --> 00:24:55.319 had to get blood from somewhere illegally, store 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:58.420 it, and then transport a significant amount of 00:24:58.420 --> 00:25:01.460 it without being caught. Second, the home was 00:25:01.460 --> 00:25:04.119 alarmed and had been hours before the blood appeared 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.200 and there was no sign of entry force or otherwise. 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:08.920 And there was no evidence to suggest that maybe 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:10.940 the alarm was faulty or had been tampered with. 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:13.119 So it doesn't seem likely that someone came into 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.799 their home with a shitload of blood unnoticed 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.000 just to pull off a prank. Yeah, and there's also 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.839 a lot of other ways to make old people seem crazy. 00:25:22.099 --> 00:25:25.000 Yeah. They don't involve bringing the police 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:28.539 to a house to test the blood on the ground. I 00:25:28.539 --> 00:25:30.079 mean, that is a pretty funny way to do it, though. 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.900 It is, but when you think about it, like, clearly 00:25:33.900 --> 00:25:37.339 the police were also like, ah. It really is blood, 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:40.180 I guess. I don't know. Not only did you fool 00:25:40.180 --> 00:25:42.200 the old people, but you fooled the people that 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.599 were going to take the old people out if it was 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:49.779 successful. It just seems like so much work for 00:25:49.779 --> 00:25:52.880 no reason. If anything, you would have put a 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.359 severed leg in the house and then taken it out 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.900 just before the police got there so that they 00:25:57.900 --> 00:25:59.880 would seem crazy. That's the thing. You've got 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:01.960 to make them see the blood and then clean it 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:05.740 up before the cops get there. Exactly. That's 00:26:05.740 --> 00:26:08.900 where they fucked up. They left it there. But 00:26:08.900 --> 00:26:12.400 speaking of evidence, there weren't any containers, 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:14.500 tools, or materials that would have been used 00:26:14.500 --> 00:26:17.440 to carry out the hoax found anywhere in or around 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.380 the house. So if it was staged, whoever did it 00:26:19.380 --> 00:26:22.480 left zero trace. Like we said, even the police 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.480 at the time weren't assuming it was a hoax because 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.599 if it had been obviously a hoax, they would have 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:29.759 just closed the case. Well, the hoax explanation, 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.259 it's... like the most practical, I guess, on 00:26:33.259 --> 00:26:35.799 paper, there just isn't any evidence to support 00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:38.480 it. So if it wasn't a hoax, it's got to be paranormal, 00:26:38.660 --> 00:26:41.539 right? Yeah, of course. Yeah, well, the paranormal 00:26:41.539 --> 00:26:44.359 theory is the one that has gained the most traction 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.740 over the years because it's the most fun. Obviously, 00:26:46.740 --> 00:26:48.599 people are going to fucking gravitate towards 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.700 that. Now, the idea here is that the blood was 00:26:51.700 --> 00:26:54.819 manifested by some unseen supernatural force, 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.599 like a ghost or a poltergeist. You see it all 00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:58.440 the time in movies. Blood dripping from walls, 00:26:58.460 --> 00:27:02.059 that type of shit. A spectral period. A local 00:27:02.059 --> 00:27:05.240 paranormal researcher named Kurt Rowlett interviewed 00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:08.039 Minnie Winston. This was like months after everything 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.180 had settled down, and he concluded that a paranormal 00:27:10.180 --> 00:27:13.200 event was, quote -unquote, as likely an explanation 00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.819 as any, which is just another way of saying, 00:27:15.980 --> 00:27:18.799 I have no idea what is happening here, so gotta 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.640 be ghosts. No clue. Probably, probably ghosts. 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:24.640 It's gotta be ghosts. It's gotta be. Yeah. There 00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.619 was one paranormal interpretation that I thought 00:27:26.619 --> 00:27:29.160 was kind of interesting. And this is that the 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:30.940 event is linked to Atlanta's like historical 00:27:30.940 --> 00:27:33.519 trauma, racial violence, redlining, things of 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.559 that nature. Writer Danny Cherry Jr. proposed 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.759 this idea that the blood might be psychic in 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.279 nature and a manifestation of all the unresolved 00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:44.460 hurt that is embedded in the city's history. 00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:46.779 Now, obviously, there's no scientific evidence 00:27:46.779 --> 00:27:48.500 to support this. It's part of a theory known 00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:51.539 as emotional haunting. That's where like the 00:27:51.539 --> 00:27:54.799 environment itself somehow holds and expresses 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:58.019 trauma. Also, I am just now realizing that this 00:27:58.019 --> 00:28:00.819 theory makes more sense for you and those listening 00:28:00.819 --> 00:28:03.039 if I had actually included the fact that the 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.099 Winstons were a black couple. So that's on me. 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:09.680 You know what I've got to say, though, Dave? 00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.279 I've got to give you credit. It's pretty progressive 00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.259 that you forgot to tell everyone that this was 00:28:14.259 --> 00:28:18.119 a black family. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:23.220 realizing that now. Did you ever watch Them on 00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:26.900 Amazon? yeah it's the season one it's think about 00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:29.539 like that it's like right the like racism is 00:28:29.539 --> 00:28:32.900 haunting their house if that yeah i mean i i 00:28:32.900 --> 00:28:35.619 think i think i probably spoke too soon when 00:28:35.619 --> 00:28:37.259 i said the skeptics were the least believable 00:28:37.259 --> 00:28:41.099 yeah i mean it sounds a little silly to me that 00:28:41.099 --> 00:28:45.099 racism did this it's not um no i know what you 00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:48.240 mean i know what you meant um it's an interesting 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:55.359 theory uh i just i Just blood, though? No sounds? 00:28:56.180 --> 00:29:02.559 Well, there was a theory. I didn't... I'm not 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:03.920 even going to get it. There was a theory that 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:05.140 was like... I'm putting you through your paces 00:29:05.140 --> 00:29:09.440 right now. It was like a quick poltergeist, like 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.519 an in -and -out type deal. That was one of the 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:16.619 theories. Just like a, well, hey. He's a traveling 00:29:16.619 --> 00:29:18.660 poltergeist. It was one of those, just like popping 00:29:18.660 --> 00:29:22.460 in to say hello. It was like when the milkman 00:29:22.460 --> 00:29:24.559 used to... Hey neighbor. And then they just leave. 00:29:24.740 --> 00:29:26.920 It was like, yeah, it just pops in. Yeah. But 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:33.140 still, if this was the blood fairy, but like, 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.819 yeah. So if this was some sort of haunting, it 00:29:36.819 --> 00:29:39.140 wasn't like your normal run of the mill boilerplate 00:29:39.140 --> 00:29:42.039 haunting. Like there weren't any ghosts or cold 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:43.980 spots or voices or shit. Like the blood appeared 00:29:43.980 --> 00:29:47.559 and that was it. So I don't know. Who knows? 00:29:48.670 --> 00:29:50.650 I don't know. I actually, now that I think about 00:29:50.650 --> 00:29:52.730 it, I kind of like the idea of it just being 00:29:52.730 --> 00:29:56.750 like a one and done situation. If that was the 00:29:56.750 --> 00:29:59.569 case with all hauntings, I'd take that. Yeah, 00:29:59.650 --> 00:30:02.829 it was just like a quick little, how do you do? 00:30:02.890 --> 00:30:05.829 You're going to pop in, say hello, scatter some 00:30:05.829 --> 00:30:08.670 blood around the house. Sometimes that's all 00:30:08.670 --> 00:30:10.650 you need. I mean, it works. Open and close a 00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:13.109 few cabinet doors and then fuck off. Yeah, they 00:30:13.109 --> 00:30:14.970 didn't even do that. It was literally just the 00:30:14.970 --> 00:30:17.670 blood. It happened one time. The poltergeist 00:30:17.670 --> 00:30:20.529 was like, There you go. Maybe realize there's 00:30:20.529 --> 00:30:23.710 no teenage girls or water around. They were like, 00:30:23.750 --> 00:30:28.490 this is not working for me. They're almost already 00:30:28.490 --> 00:30:32.130 dead. Whatever. It's going to last a year, two 00:30:32.130 --> 00:30:38.630 tops. All right. The dialysis machine was haunted. 00:30:38.670 --> 00:30:40.710 That's what happened. Yeah, from the blood of 00:30:40.710 --> 00:30:46.410 other patients. I did come across a more like. 00:30:46.650 --> 00:30:49.170 out there kind of theory uh and that was that 00:30:49.170 --> 00:30:52.950 this was psychokinesis or rspk which stands for 00:30:52.950 --> 00:30:56.269 recurrent spontaneous psychokinesis this is a 00:30:56.269 --> 00:30:59.930 very fringe theory like parapsychology type shit 00:30:59.930 --> 00:31:02.890 that claims that usually under like extreme stress 00:31:02.890 --> 00:31:06.049 like you can unconsciously just do shit with 00:31:06.049 --> 00:31:08.309 your minds like move objects or in this case 00:31:08.309 --> 00:31:11.809 cause blood to just appear It's dumb and it's 00:31:11.809 --> 00:31:14.029 an unproven idea. You know what, though? As crazy 00:31:14.029 --> 00:31:16.630 as that sounds, I think that was also kind of 00:31:16.630 --> 00:31:19.869 the explanation for some poltergeist activity 00:31:19.869 --> 00:31:22.849 that happens around teenagers. Yeah, it's like 00:31:22.849 --> 00:31:25.049 most poltergeist activity usually happens around 00:31:25.049 --> 00:31:29.549 like teens going through puberty. Right. So it's 00:31:29.549 --> 00:31:31.950 kind of like that. I mean, yeah, I guess. I mean, 00:31:31.970 --> 00:31:34.309 they were an elderly couple. The husband was 00:31:34.309 --> 00:31:36.029 very sick. Like, it's not like he was fucking 00:31:36.029 --> 00:31:38.660 up and about. Like, I'm sure. I don't know if 00:31:38.660 --> 00:31:40.119 they had a caretaker, so I don't know if Minnie, 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.299 who was also elderly, was taking care of her 00:31:42.299 --> 00:31:45.079 husband. Like, that could stress anyone out. 00:31:45.299 --> 00:31:47.519 I mean, I've taken care of family members with, 00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.220 like, dementia and shit. Like, it's not easy 00:31:49.220 --> 00:31:54.000 for sure. Yeah. So, I mean, like, I mean, but 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.019 I never caused blood to just appear. But, you 00:31:57.019 --> 00:32:00.819 know, I'm not saying no one else could happen. 00:32:01.539 --> 00:32:05.440 But, yeah, but telekinesis, no, that's proven. 00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.589 It's theorized. It could happen maybe. Who knows? 00:32:08.809 --> 00:32:11.849 I want it to happen. You know, I wish that I 00:32:11.849 --> 00:32:13.650 could do that. There are some nights where I 00:32:13.650 --> 00:32:16.910 just can't reach the remote. You want the force. 00:32:16.970 --> 00:32:20.170 You don't want telekinesis. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's 00:32:20.170 --> 00:32:22.210 a good point. I guess it's not enough to lift 00:32:22.210 --> 00:32:25.230 an X -Wing. I just want the Amazon remote. Gotcha. 00:32:25.309 --> 00:32:28.869 No, that tracks. But yeah, but whenever you see 00:32:28.869 --> 00:32:31.950 poltergeist stuff like this, you always... The 00:32:31.950 --> 00:32:34.869 telekinesis, peritoneal, whatever it's called, 00:32:35.009 --> 00:32:37.630 it gets... brought up a lot in cases like this 00:32:37.630 --> 00:32:39.390 either way the bottom line is that every theory 00:32:39.390 --> 00:32:42.750 has its holes the hoax theory is possible there's 00:32:42.750 --> 00:32:45.069 just no evidence and the paranormal theory has 00:32:45.069 --> 00:32:48.230 as much evidence as the hoax theory so what are 00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:51.130 you gonna do it's kind of right whatever but 00:32:51.130 --> 00:32:53.250 no matter what theory you subscribe to whatever 00:32:53.250 --> 00:32:55.410 happened in the winston home on september 8th 00:32:55.410 --> 00:32:58.809 1987 has never fully been explained All we know 00:32:58.809 --> 00:33:00.769 is that human blood appeared in their house. 00:33:00.849 --> 00:33:03.430 It was witnessed by first responders, tested 00:33:03.430 --> 00:33:06.130 and confirmed to be real blood. And after that, 00:33:06.210 --> 00:33:09.869 who the fuck knows, you know? Yeah. Well, I think 00:33:09.869 --> 00:33:11.730 it's also important to call attention to the 00:33:11.730 --> 00:33:13.430 fact that the sheer volume of the blood, like 00:33:13.430 --> 00:33:16.029 there was a lot of it, right? Too much. Yeah. 00:33:16.109 --> 00:33:20.910 So it's like, I feel like, so what, what killed 00:33:20.910 --> 00:33:25.700 the, the like, um, emotional haunting theory 00:33:25.700 --> 00:33:28.279 for me besides the fact that we don't really 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.700 would they didn't really say any noises and i 00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:33.220 feel like if that were the case it was like emotional 00:33:33.220 --> 00:33:37.539 trauma from you know centuries of of slavery 00:33:37.539 --> 00:33:41.759 i feel like there'd be noises um or like some 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.099 kind of rhyme or reason to it it was just o positive 00:33:44.099 --> 00:33:46.880 blood yeah just a bunch of it too yeah so unless 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.019 it was something i don't understand about slavery 00:33:49.019 --> 00:33:51.000 i'm pretty confident they all had different blood 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.069 types you know what i mean true I feel like the 00:33:54.069 --> 00:33:55.930 amount of blood that they're describing would 00:33:55.930 --> 00:33:58.430 have been more than one person. You know what 00:33:58.430 --> 00:34:02.670 I mean? Like, yeah, the, like I'm not, the amount 00:34:02.670 --> 00:34:04.890 of blood would have been multiple people. I think 00:34:04.890 --> 00:34:06.710 this is how I should have worded that. It's that, 00:34:06.789 --> 00:34:08.869 but yeah, I don't know. It's been 30 years and 00:34:08.869 --> 00:34:11.309 the case is still open technically, but it's, 00:34:11.309 --> 00:34:13.389 it's still a mystery, but it's kind of weird 00:34:13.389 --> 00:34:15.610 to me. They didn't do any DNA testing on it just 00:34:15.610 --> 00:34:18.110 to like find out who it belonged to. That'd be 00:34:18.110 --> 00:34:21.559 interesting. At 87, did they have that? I don't 00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:22.760 know. I know they could test against blood types. 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.000 No, but they probably still have the evidence. 00:34:24.059 --> 00:34:26.079 I'm sure you could still get the DNA out of it. 00:34:26.380 --> 00:34:28.639 Yeah, I don't know. If they store the evidence 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.500 properly, they should be able to still get DNA. 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:35.340 I mean, they've solved cold cases from the 1970s. 00:34:35.340 --> 00:34:36.840 I mean, that's how the Golden State Killer got 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.800 caught. Yeah, well, he got caught because of, 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.679 was it 23andMe or something like that? Yeah, 00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.639 but they had DNA profiled to test against from 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.420 the 1970s. This is true. This is very true. I 00:34:47.420 --> 00:34:51.210 don't know. I don't know either. I find it interesting. 00:34:51.409 --> 00:34:53.869 I wonder if you could still test it, if they 00:34:53.869 --> 00:34:56.070 kept it. They probably didn't. I mean, it's a 00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:58.769 bleeding... This is fucking dumb. Why would we 00:34:58.769 --> 00:35:01.650 keep this? This is taking up space. Because technically 00:35:01.650 --> 00:35:03.349 there was no crime, so I don't know what they 00:35:03.349 --> 00:35:04.829 wouldn't... I feel like they wouldn't keep it, 00:35:04.869 --> 00:35:08.289 right? They open up the evidence locker and it's 00:35:08.289 --> 00:35:10.409 just a bunch of paint cans that say house blood 00:35:10.409 --> 00:35:16.760 on them. Alright, but... There you have it, Sarge. 00:35:16.860 --> 00:35:18.539 There you have it, listeners. That is the story 00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:21.480 of the, I forget what I called it. Oh, the Bleeding 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.139 House of Atlanta. I already forgot what I called 00:35:23.139 --> 00:35:25.760 it. The Atlanta Blood House. The Bleeding House 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:29.460 of Atlanta. That is, man, I like this one. This 00:35:29.460 --> 00:35:32.880 one was cool. Yeah, it wasn't bad. Like I said, 00:35:32.940 --> 00:35:36.219 I was going to add other ones because this wasn't 00:35:36.219 --> 00:35:37.980 the first or only time that this has happened 00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:41.239 to people, but some of them got like, it was 00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:45.420 just too poltergeist. Yeah. You know, I'm glad 00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:47.059 that there weren't a lot of tropes in this one. 00:35:47.099 --> 00:35:49.300 Like nobody mentions a native American burial 00:35:49.300 --> 00:35:51.539 ground or anything like that. Yeah. That was 00:35:51.539 --> 00:35:53.320 the other thing is that one of them was like, 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.119 Oh God, this house was on a psychic told me this 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.760 house was on a cursed native American. And I 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.139 was like, no, that's where I'm assholes. God 00:36:01.139 --> 00:36:03.820 damn it. Yeah. So I was like, I'm not going to 00:36:03.820 --> 00:36:06.619 get it. I'm going to stick to the one, keep it 00:36:06.619 --> 00:36:10.199 at this. Cause this, this, this one is so open 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.179 -ended. You know what I mean? Even the paranormal 00:36:13.179 --> 00:36:14.860 investigators are like, I don't fucking know. 00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:19.199 It's probably ghosts. It's a lot. Cops couldn't 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:20.500 figure it out. Because I feel like whenever a 00:36:20.500 --> 00:36:22.079 paranormal investigator comes in, they're like, 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.940 well, clearly this is the soul of Chief whatever. 00:36:27.820 --> 00:36:30.199 It's like, nah. Yeah, exactly. This dude's just 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:31.880 like, I don't fucking know. We're not going to 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.000 get anything. No idea. Yeah. Oh, shit. All right. 00:36:35.019 --> 00:36:37.300 Well, there's your episode. It was good. I had 00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:41.210 fun with it. I liked it. Yeah. Alright, well, 00:36:41.329 --> 00:36:43.489 I guess that's it. I got nothing else for you, 00:36:43.530 --> 00:36:46.409 bud. I got nothing else either. Follow us on 00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:49.150 the internet and ignore my sweaty armpit that 00:36:49.150 --> 00:36:52.929 I just showed to the cameras. Those of you listening, 00:36:53.210 --> 00:36:55.650 that didn't happen. 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They're 00:37:28.820 --> 00:37:33.539 cool dudes. Super, super funny. I think that's 00:37:33.539 --> 00:37:34.400 all I got. Sorry, do you guys have anything you 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.139 want to plug? Nope, just my butthole. Just kidding. 00:37:38.260 --> 00:37:42.210 I don't do that. All right. I guess with that 00:37:42.210 --> 00:37:43.489 out of the way, Sarge, do you want to say goodbye 00:37:43.489 --> 00:37:45.989 and I love you to the audience? Hey, goodbye 00:37:45.989 --> 00:37:47.510 and I love you.