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Hey everyone, Dave here. Got another interdimensional

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swap for you guys. This week we're going to be

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featuring an episode from the Ghost Story guys.

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Sarge and I had the pleasure of being a guest

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on their show in a future episode coming out

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of theirs. I believe it's actually coming out

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this week. I honestly don't remember. I think

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it's the 12th. It was a lot of fun. We had some

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good conversations, joked a lot, shit -talked

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a bunch. But it was really fun. They're really

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cool guys. So definitely give this episode a

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listen and then give them a follow so that way

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you can be prepared for when Our interview with

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them comes out on their feed. I'm really bad

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at these intro things, so I'm just going to wrap

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it up. But here you go. Here's the episode of

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The Ghost Story, guys. Be aware. Be haunted,

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Delaware. Enjoy. and close your eyes. It's half

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past midnight, and you're listening to The Ghost

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Story Guys. Welcome to The Ghost Story Guys.

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I am the king of hay fever, Brennan Storr. And

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I am a man who fears no pollen. I am Paul Bestall.

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And this is the show where we talk about spooks,

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specters, and all the other things watching us

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from the shadows beyond the campfire. Some conversations

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only make sense after the sun has set, and this

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is most definitely one. Thanks for tuning in.

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This is episode number 213, and we are sneezily

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coming to you from that mountain cabin you dream

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about but can never quite reach. Paul, my friend,

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it's allergy season. There's just no two ways

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about it. I even forgot the last bit of the intro

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there because I have just sneezed myself stupid.

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The only thing I get is a tickly throat. It sucks,

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is the short version. I won't belabor it, but

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if I sound all stuffed up, it's not because I

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am choked with emotion. I mean, you know, any

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more than usual. It is because I am at active

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war with the trees in my neighborhood. Perhaps

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you need to try that honey therapy. Is that the

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one you sent me the video of, you sick bastard?

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Folks, look, we're going to get to the ghost

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stories in a second, but nothing could be more

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frightening than the honey massage video Paul

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sent me. I get a note saying, do not open this

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in a public place. I'm like, what the fuck is

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he? Oh, that's what it is. And you know what?

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I'll put a link in the show notes so you can

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all suffer with me. Hey, don't blame me. Blame

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my brother. He was the one that found it and

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sent it to me. Okay. Well, that I believe. I

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made up for it. I sent you the new Predator trailer.

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This is true. This is true. Yeah. Entirely different

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kind of Predator. I'm just happy on life after

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surviving a visit to two of Britain's spookiest

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locations last week. Yes, you went on your adventure

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and you were saying that you had something to

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report? We saw a UFO. Holy shit. Tell me more.

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So it was Thursday evening and we got this beautiful

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guest house in the small sort of offshot of Berwick,

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which is called Spittle. So it's literally like

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a mile away. And we were on a seafront guest

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house. We got a beautiful room, big windows looking.

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We were literally about, I don't know, 100 yards

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from the beach. from where we were. Big windows,

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two reclining chairs, which I didn't realise

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was a reclining chair until I thought I broke

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it. And I went, ah! And then the bottom flew

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up and I went, ah! So it's supposed to do this.

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So we were just sat there just watching the sea

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and I downloaded a ship tracker because we're

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sad like that. And we're like, oh, look at that

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ship. That's from Liberia. Oh, look, that's come

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from Portugal. Where's it going? Oh, it's going

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to Glasgow. Brilliant. And so while we were doing

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that, we were taking it in and just thinking,

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oh, this is marvellous. We could hear the sea.

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Beautiful. Didn't do anything else for a couple

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of hours. And we were pointing out and I said,

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oh, look, the stars are there and whatever. And

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there was one particular star we were looking

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at it. Oh, yeah, that's beautiful. And then all

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of a sudden, this bright white ball of light

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just appeared directly underneath it. And so

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at first I thought, is it a very bright star?

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And the cloud has gone. But it was travelling

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under the star. You could see it moving. So I

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said, right, quick, turn the light off. So Julie

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got up, ran to turn the light off and grabbed

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the phones because we'd left them on the bed.

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And by the time she'd come back, it just went

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boop and disappeared, vanished. As soon as it

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knew we were talking, it was almost like we started

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going, oh my God, look at that, look at that.

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And as soon as we said that, it just disappeared.

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It was there for, I don't know, eight, nine seconds.

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Son of a bitch. It wasn't a satellite. It wasn't

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a plane, because I've got all these trackers

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on my phone these days. You've got to rule them

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out. No, that's fair. It wasn't the moon. It

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wasn't a star. Stars don't move. It wasn't a

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comet. It was too slow for a comet or a meteor

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or a shooting star. And it was a great big, quite

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noticeable white ball of light. It wasn't flashing

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or anything. It just looked like a big, bright,

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white ball of light. And it went. I'll be damned.

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Well, that is cool as hell. Yeah. So, you know,

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I didn't see any ghosts anywhere else. Or anything

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at Chillingham and Lindisfarne? Because we took

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an impromptu visit to Lindisfarne the following

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day. Okay. I don't know the area. So Lindisfarne

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is an island off the coast of the northeast of

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England. You basically can only get there twice

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a day when the tide goes out because the road

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to Lindisfarne is under the North Sea. Oh, okay.

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So we drove over first thing in the morning about

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quarter past nine because Julie lived on Lindisfarne

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for a bit. Oh, cool. where she met Dan Aykroyd,

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strangely enough, 25 years ago, asking for extra

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honey in the restaurant she worked at, and also

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the cast of Cold Feet, if you're aware of that

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programme. Lots of middle -aged British people

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will know what I'm talking about, and some may

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start crying at the merry mention of that romantic

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comedy drama, shall we say. So, yeah, we went

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there, and obviously Lindisfarne is essentially...

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the starting point in Britain of the Viking Age

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because the Vikings turned up, slaughtered all

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the monks, stole all the gold from the monastery

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and ransacked and pillaged the area. So on the

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island, there's a castle and the remains of the

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priory and statues to the saint there. And it's

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like a little art. It's become quite an artistic

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hotspot. So people have moved there to become

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professional artists. There's distilleries there.

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They make their own mead, their own gin, their

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own rum. It was marvellous. Lovely. Sounds cool

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as hell. And then we thought that would set us

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up. And then we went to the most haunted castle

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in England, which was Chillingham. And was it

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the most haunted castle? It's exactly how I expected

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a haunted castle to be. It's a remarkable story

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because the guy that owns it now, Sir Humphrey

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Wakefield, well, him and his wife. Chillingham

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had been abandoned for 50 years. So a family

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owned it until 1930. And one day they just got

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up and went, nah, we can't afford to live here

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anymore. Lock the door, fucked off. Oh. And it

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was left. And so it basically began to collapse.

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And he turned up in 1980 and he completely brought

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it all back, rebuilt the whole thing, floors,

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windows. He went out, auction houses, getting

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back old. tapestries and trying to recreate how

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the rooms would have looked 400, 500 years ago.

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It's a remarkable level of restoration when you

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look at what he's achieved in 45 years. It's

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incredible. I'm very glad I've knocked it off

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my bucket list, both places. No kidding. Well,

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sadly, on this episode, we're not talking about

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Chillingham Castle, although I kind of wish we

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were. On this episode, we are telling stories

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from the American state of Delaware, the Diamond

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State. This is a number of items that Luke found,

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plus a few things that I've managed to locate

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through old newspapers. And actually, I'm quite

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happy we're in between stories. We're going to

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be sharing segments from a newspaper feature

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on 13 hauntings around Delaware. So we have six

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stories. And after each story, we will have two

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of these little blurbs that the Wilmington News

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Journal put together in 2006. So if you're not

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familiar with Delaware, which I have to admit,

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I was not. I have been to 36 of the US states.

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I did not even know where Delaware was. I know.

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Terrible stuff. One of my many secret shames.

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I'd like to blame the allergy medicine, but I

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haven't taken it, so I don't fall asleep on the

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call like I have in past when I've had allergy

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attacks. It could be worse. I was once involved

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as a bystander and referee in an argument between

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two friends over the fact that Australia wasn't

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in Europe. I don't even know what to do with

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that. And the reason for it was, well, they speak

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English, so it must be in Europe. And I was like,

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what? What? Even I'm annoyed by that point. Sometimes

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people will say something so staggeringly stupid

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that you just expect reality to crumple in on

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itself like a used up paper cup. Like you just

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think that, okay, that person should, if there

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is a God, he will be sucked screaming into the

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void right now. Nope, nothing. Indeed. We're

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alone. Indeed. I felt a bit like Captain Britain

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when Alan Moore wrote it. I have to say, I felt

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like my atoms were being scattered across the

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universe. Well... Before we scatter our atoms

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across the great state of Delaware, we have to

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thank our patrons. This one's for the patrons.

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Patrons, we could not do what we do without you.

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So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For real,

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would especially like to thank our latest ones.

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They are Carrie and Paul R. Again, guys, thank

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you so, so much from the bottom of our terrible

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right paul i'm gonna go blow my nose and when

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i come back be ready to be aware be delaware

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Pop -Pop's House Growing up being taught there

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were no such thing as ghosts, Pop -Pop's House

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proved us all wrong. I was 17 when we moved into

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Pop -Pop's House. He died about three years prior.

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I loved him and missed him dearly. I cried for

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years over him. It made it harder to deal with

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his death looking over all his belongings and

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knowing he had lived there for over 50 years.

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My sister was 12 and my brother was 10. and we

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all had our own rooms there. My sister chose

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my dad's old bedroom, which she was excited about

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because we loved our dad. She slept in there

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for about three months, and then suddenly she

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was downstairs sleeping on the couch. I asked

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her why she didn't sleep in daddy's room anymore.

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She flat out told me that she was going up the

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stairs and heard a man and woman laughing in

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her room. We made fun of her and called her crazy.

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A few months later, I was in my room at the top

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of the stairs. I was putting my clothes away

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and I heard a male voice say, What are you doing?

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Now my brother, being a jokester, and my dad

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never coming upstairs, I had my back to the door

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and told my brother to get out of my room. When

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I turned around, it was dark and no one was there.

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I was petrified. I threw my clothes on the floor,

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locked the door and went to bed, and I didn't

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move all night. I told my brother a few months

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later, and of course, I was labelled nuts like

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my sister, but my brother eventually got his

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payback. A little while later, my brother and

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his friend were playing football in the side

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yard. They were at least 30 feet from each other

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when they heard a woman say, What are you doing?

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They both came inside and were quite terrified.

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They told me what happened and finally acknowledged

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what my sister and I had experienced was real.

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It took us a long time, but I told my dad what

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had been happening. He never denied seeing or

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hearing things there. The most outstanding thing

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was that he saw a ghostly white horse run through

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the backyard when he was a boy. He told his parents

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about this and they told him he was sick and

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that he needed to go to bed. I was so glad he

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understood us and didn't tease or make fun of

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us. After my dad passed away, my sister told

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me that the house shook violently and they heard

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the sound of a train coming through. My great

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-grandparents ran a train station that was right

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in front of the house in the late 1800s. The

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tracks were gone when my dad was a boy, but my

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sister said she smelt coal a lot outside. When

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my dad died, my mother turned off all the utility

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in the house, such as the phone. My dad had his

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own phone because of the dial -up internet. I

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stood outside the window where he worked on the

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computer. The phone was turned off. Then I heard

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the phone ringing. I went back in and checked

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for a dial tone, but there was no sound at all.

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I thought maybe I'd just heard the neighbour's

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phone. Months later, both my mum and my sister

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had heard the same noise. We call it the ghost

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phone. My mum had to sell the house back in 2010.

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It had been built by our family over 100 years

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ago, and my siblings and I were devastated. The

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new owners burnt it down, but in my mind it's

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still there, a childhood getaway. Jumping off

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the porch and exploring the yard. And no one

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can ever burn that down. I still have a key on

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my key ring to the back door of that house. And

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I call it the key to a ghost house. Well, I hope

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they burnt it down by accident. That seems a

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bit severe. Just reduce it to ashes like a Star

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Wars villain. Maybe they were trying to burn

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the ghosts out. Who knows? They do things differently

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in Delaware. It's all that sea air, I think.

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Until today, I didn't even know it was on the

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water. If it was squeezed anymore, it'd be Atlantis.

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It's a very small state. Not that size is everything,

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as I keep contending. They should call it the

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Squisham State. You know, something tells me

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that the ego of a state that calls itself either

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the first state or the diamond state is not going

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to allow for the Squisham State. I was reminded

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of something today that says nothing to what

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we're talking about, but I was reminded of something

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today. I've been going to a new coffee shop.

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It's a little bit closer to my house. And I got

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talking today when I placed my order, the barista

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asked about my tattoos. And it occurred to me,

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I don't think much about them, right? They're

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just kind of there. I was reminded, I used to

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work in a building that had a lot of security.

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It was a very secure building. You couldn't get

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in without a pass. You couldn't. go anywhere.

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The past didn't let you go. And we had a cafeteria.

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So every day when I was working there, I would

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go to this cafeteria and either just have a coffee

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or shoot the shit with some of the other people

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from where I was working. And there was a young

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woman who worked there and she was very friendly.

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We got along very well. But I noticed one day

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she was wearing a short sleeve shirt. She had

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a tattoo on her forearm and it was the emblem

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from the cover of Leonard Cohen's Uh, it's the

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album after I'm your man. But anyways, um, it's

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got, it's like a distinctive, I think it's like

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a heart with two birds on either side of it,

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but it was just that. And I commented on it.

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So that's very, I said, that's, that's Leonard

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Cohen, right? She goes, oh shit. Yeah. You know,

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she was surprised that I recognized it. So we

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talked about that for a minute about how, how

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much we both enjoyed that album. And she said,

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oh, thank, uh, I think it was like, well, thanks,

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Brendan. She like was kind of pointed to my name

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tag. And I said, oh yeah, no problem. And I realized

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she didn't have a name tag. And I said, I don't

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know your name. And she goes, oh, I can't tell

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you. It's a secret. And I said, okay. I said,

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that's fine. That's fine. But I said, from now

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on, I'm going to call you Stanislaus. And she

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stopped and she goes, Stanislaus was my grandfather's

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name. How'd you know that? Well, I guess that's

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the end of these conversations. Yeah. Just, and

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that was, that was it. That was the last time

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we ever had a chat. I think whatever it was,

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it just, I, with my, my patented Brennan store

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method, I creeped her out just enough. to end

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any future conversations. You must have been

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channeling the spirit of Sylvia Brown. No, because

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I was right about that. Oh, that's very harsh.

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One might say not harsh enough. One might say

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that anything short of a Macho Man Randy Savage

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style elbow drop from a banyan tree might not

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be enough for the ghost of Sylvia Brown. Yes,

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that was true. When someone mentioned it on the...

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Facebook page, I wrote a message and then I deleted

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it because I realized it was probably the most

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vitriolic rant I'd ever committed on our group's

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page. And I thought, no, no, I'm not going to

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do that. So I turned it down a touch and just

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called her a bastard. Which again, like, I don't

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know if there's any amount of vitriol that would

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have been too much. Again, she's one of the few

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kind of big name psychics I've seen live. I had

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the misfortune, I guess, of seeing a live performance

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in Victoria. It was one of the most shameful

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things I've ever seen. Just this woman who clearly

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did not give a fuck, completely dismissing these

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tearful, tearful women. It was horrifying. And

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I think one of the folks in the Facebook group

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pointed out this one very famous case where she

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said a young lady was... past and she was in

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fact being held captive. And then she did the

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opposite for a case that's very well known to

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Victorians, the disappearance of Michael Dunahee.

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And she said, oh, you know, he's out there somewhere.

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And the podcast Island Crime just did an update

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on the Michael Dunahee case. And it seems pretty

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clear he was, I don't like to say this about

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a kid, but it seems pretty clear he was no longer

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with us within a couple of days of that disappearance,

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maybe even the day of. the disappearance. And

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so she, again, just got everything wrong in a

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way that was almost scientifically calculated

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to cause as much hurt as possible. I don't think

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she did it because I don't think she's smart

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enough to scientifically calculate fucking anything,

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but she just had the opposite of Midas. She had

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the black touch. Well, to be fair, to be consistently

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wrong is a skill in itself. This is true. Yep,

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this is true. Maybe that was a psychic power.

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He just took the opposite of what she said and

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it was right. This is like the guy I know who

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keeps dreaming about almost the right lottery

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numbers. He never gets the right ones, but he

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always dreams very, very close to the right ones.

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And I assume this is like generational punishment

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for something his grandfather did. Yes. Yes.

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Well, I must admit, I must have struck a chord

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with you because you still got your T -shirt

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that you're wearing from the gig. My Sylvia Brown

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T -shirt? Yeah. Sylvia is my queen. Yeah. Yeah.

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God help us. All right. We're going to leave

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behind the ghost of Sylvia Brown, hopefully forever.

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And we're going to share two of these haunted

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locations from around Delaware again. This comes

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from the October 11th, 2006 edition of the Wilmington

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News Journal. I'm going to read number one and

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Paul is going to read haunt number two. Haunt

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one, Fort Delaware. It's time for a quick lesson

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for those of you not lucky enough to take a field

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trip to Fort Delaware in elementary school. Fort

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Delaware sits on Pea Patch Island, just off Delaware

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City. It was built in 1848, and though it was

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never attacked, served as a military fort until

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1943 when it was decommissioned. At one point,

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there were over 16 ,000 people and prisoners

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on the tiny island. There aren't any people left

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living in Fort Delaware, just the ghosts. One

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of those lost souls is a woman. We don't know

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her name, but she is one of the civilians who

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lived in the fort and acted as a cook for one

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of the officers. George Contant, the historical

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manager of Fort Delaware, tells the tale. A group

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of historical interpreters were working in the

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kitchen one day about 15 years ago, reenacting

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a day in the life of a kitchen worker at the

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fort. The women were working at the stove when

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they saw someone they didn't recognize dressed

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in period clothes. She walked to the stove, looked

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in some pots and at the arrangements on the table,

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smiled at the interpreters, turned around, and

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walked straight through the wall next to the

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pantry. Since that incident, ghost hunters have

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measured that corner as a cold spot. A portal

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to another dimension. That's obviously not in

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the article. I'm just being an asshole. About

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six years ago, a camera crew went to the fort

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to film a segment to run with an Addams Family

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marathon. Oh, Jesus. It was a different time.

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One cameraman stayed in the kitchen to shoot

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some extra footage while the rest of the group

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moved on. He went into the pantry and heard a

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woman's voice telling him to get out. He did,

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and when he came back a few years later to film

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another segment, he wouldn't go into the pantry.

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Interpreters have also had things move around

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on them. One woman was sewing and dropped her

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needle, but since she was rushing for the last

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boat out, she decided to just look for it in

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the morning. She was a first person back the

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next day, and when she went into the room where

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she was sewing, a piece of fabric was sitting

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on her table, her threaded needle in it. Other

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interpreters reported spoons being moved in the

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kitchen, and once someone moved a wooden spoon

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off the hot stove before it caught fire. Other

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visitors report seeing General Archer, a prisoner

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captured at Gettysburg, who had plans to take

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over the fort. After those plans were foiled,

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he was thrown into a powder magazine for the

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summer. A powder magazine is completely dark,

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with only thin slits on the brick walls to let

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air in. He was released, but after he died, his

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spirit came back to haunt the magazine. Daniel

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Citron, the lead historical interpreter at Fort

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Delaware, said he and two other guys were putting

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things away for the season when they heard a

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little girl giggling. They were the only people

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on the island. There weren't any children. And

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I gotta say, man, if I'm this General Archer

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guy, and I've been imprisoned in a fucking powder

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magazine, the last thing I'm gonna do when I

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die is go back there. Unless he was autistic

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and he's like, no, no, I like the quiet, which

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in that case I get. I love the smell of powder.

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That's it. I find it calming. I've done some

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weird shit. You know, if I find a nice clean

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bathroom with a nice, like a nice tile floor,

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sometimes you just want to lie on it in the dark.

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I get it. I get it. Don't give me that look.

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It's been a long time since I've laid on a bathroom

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floor. Right about now, RFK Jr's picked up the

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bat phone. He's like, find him. Find him. He

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can't find me. No, it's not you he's looking

00:24:04.859 --> 00:24:06.920
for. You're not the one lying on the floor of

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bathrooms because he finds it comforting. No,

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I'm on the ceiling watching him. All right, read

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number two, you beautiful bald bastard. Haunt

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2, The Headless Horseman of Welsh Tract Road.

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Next time you're getting some chicken and garlic

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potatoes at the Boston Market on Route 896 in

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Newark, keep your eyes peeled. You're in the

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Headless Horseman of Welsh Tract Road's territory.

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During the Battle of Coochers Bridge during the

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Revolutionary War, part of the battle took place

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where the Boston Market stands now, all the way

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down Welch Track Road to the church. A 16 -year

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-old volunteer named Charlie Miller was riding

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through the cemetery during the battle. Just

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as he passed the church, a cannonball took off

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his head, kept going and knocked a hole in the

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wall of the church. Charlie was a brave volunteer

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and continued to soldier on as the headless horseman.

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The night before the Battle of Chadds Ford, snipers

00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:10.380
lined up to shoot George Washington. Those snipers

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never got a shot off, and the next morning were

00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.319
found headless. Charlie was also responsible

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for the 38 headless soldiers found at Valley

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Forge. He still rides around the area where he

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lost his head, and if you go to the church, you

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can see where the cannonball that took Charlie's

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head went through it. That sounds delightful,

00:25:31.180 --> 00:25:33.920
doesn't it? Paul? I nearly died when you said

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Cooch's Bridge. My head snapped back so fast,

00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:42.259
my headphones pulled out of my ear. It was fumbling

00:25:42.259 --> 00:25:45.019
for them while laughing, while wheezing because

00:25:45.019 --> 00:25:49.079
of you. I literally nearly died. Have you never

00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:51.900
investigated Cooch's Bridge? No, it's a myth.

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It's a myth. See, that's the thing about transatlantic

00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.660
colloquialism. Sometimes they have no relevance

00:25:57.660 --> 00:25:59.640
in the United Kingdom. And that's one of them,

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even though I know exactly what it refers to.

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I remember when I was at, just before we go to

00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:07.759
the next story, when I was in New Orleans the

00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:12.779
first time and I did the fan boat tour, the dude

00:26:12.779 --> 00:26:15.200
who picked me up was born and bred Louisiana.

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And I was explaining to him that I had couch

00:26:18.420 --> 00:26:21.119
surfed. Louisiana, but my Canadian accent was

00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.240
much more pronounced then. And so he just kept

00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:27.920
looking at me going, cooch surfing? Cooch surfing?

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Cooch surfing? No. Couch. Oh. Oh. Oh, that doesn't

00:26:34.900 --> 00:26:36.980
sound like nearly as much fun. All right. All

00:26:36.980 --> 00:26:41.920
right. Calm down. Yeah, that's a bit strange.

00:26:42.019 --> 00:26:44.279
I was watching a documentary the other day about

00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.460
the time there were three serial killers running

00:26:46.460 --> 00:26:49.970
around Louisiana at the same time. Only three?

00:26:50.049 --> 00:26:52.329
That seems low for Louisiana. Strange that they

00:26:52.329 --> 00:26:54.150
were all active at the same time, and they all

00:26:54.150 --> 00:26:57.549
had a different modus operandi and a different

00:26:57.549 --> 00:27:02.730
victim. Really? What era was this? 80s, 90s,

00:27:02.730 --> 00:27:06.529
noughties. No shit. Okay. You got Derek Todd

00:27:06.529 --> 00:27:10.509
Lee, who attacked women in their own homes and

00:27:10.509 --> 00:27:14.430
murdered them. You had Ronald, was it Ronald

00:27:14.430 --> 00:27:20.000
Dominique? Which is just really strange. There's

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.940
a lot of that story that doesn't make sense.

00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:25.339
He wasn't the most attractive man to look at,

00:27:25.380 --> 00:27:29.240
shall we say. And he was gay. And obviously he

00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:33.000
found it hard to meet men. And this is where

00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.960
the story doesn't make sense to me. Right. But

00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.259
I'm going to tell you what he told the cops and

00:27:38.259 --> 00:27:40.759
they've just bought it for some reason. Right.

00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:42.960
Because most of the people he killed were gay,

00:27:43.059 --> 00:27:47.059
other gay men. Right. And so he allegedly enticed

00:27:47.059 --> 00:27:50.359
them to coming back with him. He'd pick them

00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.980
up through an advert, which would basically,

00:27:52.980 --> 00:27:54.940
basically like a swingers advert saying, oh,

00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:59.880
my wife is scared of men. And so she wants me

00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:03.279
to go out to find men for her to have sex with.

00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:05.920
And so he would bring them back to his trailer.

00:28:06.619 --> 00:28:08.299
And then he would say to them, oh, well, I've

00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:11.319
got to tie you to this chair so my wife can have

00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.259
sex with you. Which straight away I'm thinking,

00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.539
well, hang on, if they're gay men, This is going

00:28:15.539 --> 00:28:17.759
to take a lot longer than I think anybody thinks

00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.400
here, buddy. And so and then he would strangle

00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.319
them from behind, apparently. And only him and

00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.579
one other person claimed that this is the reason

00:28:26.579 --> 00:28:28.480
they ended up there. However, the guy that escaped

00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.700
and said, no, I'm not doing this. And he went,

00:28:31.819 --> 00:28:35.240
oh, OK, no problem. Took him back. He was straight,

00:28:35.339 --> 00:28:39.339
but everybody else he killed was gay. So why

00:28:39.339 --> 00:28:42.079
would a gay man be interested in going back to

00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:43.500
somebody's house to have sex with their wife?

00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:45.940
This is all very reminiscent. This goes right

00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:47.319
back to the whole pop pop thing, which always

00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.059
makes me think of Arrested Development. This

00:28:49.059 --> 00:28:51.140
reminds me of the gag about the straight bait

00:28:51.140 --> 00:28:54.680
videos from season four, where they, you know,

00:28:54.700 --> 00:28:57.019
she's like, oh, you can have sex with me, but

00:28:57.019 --> 00:28:59.000
you have to have sex with my husband first or

00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.519
whatever, you know. So, yeah. And then the other

00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:08.299
guy, I can't remember, Sean Gillis. And he targeted

00:29:08.299 --> 00:29:12.119
Ladies of the Night. Oh, OK. And he was just

00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:16.690
an idiot. But it was him, ironically, that alerted

00:29:16.690 --> 00:29:20.049
the authorities to the fact that there was somebody

00:29:20.049 --> 00:29:22.549
else killing people because he said, oh yeah,

00:29:22.609 --> 00:29:24.990
one night I was trolling the streets and I got

00:29:24.990 --> 00:29:26.769
somebody and we were in a car park and then I

00:29:26.769 --> 00:29:28.750
saw another guy and we locked eyes and I knew

00:29:28.750 --> 00:29:30.869
straight away, he's the other serial killer you're

00:29:30.869 --> 00:29:33.250
after. Big black guy. He's the one you should

00:29:33.250 --> 00:29:36.089
be really looking for because he's worse than

00:29:36.089 --> 00:29:39.650
I am. And he was right. It was. He basically

00:29:39.650 --> 00:29:43.869
fingered Derek Todd Lee. Okay. But yeah, so they

00:29:43.869 --> 00:29:45.309
were all at it at the same time. They're all

00:29:45.309 --> 00:29:47.690
different types of men. One was a gay man. One

00:29:47.690 --> 00:29:51.269
was a white guy killing working girls. And the

00:29:51.269 --> 00:29:54.869
other guy was just a break and enter and attack

00:29:54.869 --> 00:29:58.490
guy. So they were all very different. Very strange.

00:29:58.549 --> 00:30:01.089
And they were all at it at the same time. Louisiana,

00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:03.130
man. What are they putting in that catfish, man?

00:30:04.289 --> 00:30:05.910
Last piece of advice before we go to the next

00:30:05.910 --> 00:30:08.670
story, folks. Never let anyone tie you up unless

00:30:08.670 --> 00:30:12.140
you know and trust them. Do not let someone tie

00:30:12.140 --> 00:30:14.240
you up on a first date. That's some free advice

00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.960
from me and Paul. We're not going to tell you

00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.680
why we know this. Well, if only you'd told me

00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.480
that 25 years ago. I'm here now. We're here for

00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.099
the next young Paul to stop him from ending up

00:30:26.099 --> 00:30:34.519
a podcaster. 13 Curves In Sussex County, Delaware,

00:30:34.700 --> 00:30:38.420
there is a road. 13 Curves This is near the Broadkill

00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:40.579
River in Slaughter Beach. Yeah, I know, great

00:30:40.579 --> 00:30:42.859
names, right? They were named that for a reason.

00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:45.740
Yeah, I doubt that. Rumor has it the road has

00:30:45.740 --> 00:30:47.900
13 curves because it goes around Indian burial

00:30:47.900 --> 00:30:51.000
grounds and is set to be haunted. These are 90

00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.859
degree curves. People around here tend to stay

00:30:53.859 --> 00:30:56.980
off it after dark. Anyway, on the home from Philly

00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:00.400
on the 13th of September, 2017, my daughter and

00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:01.980
her friend wanted to go down the road on the

00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:05.519
way home. They thought it would be fun. 13 curves

00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:09.529
on the 13th. Of course, I said okay. It was around

00:31:09.529 --> 00:31:12.609
7 .38pm when we arrived. That's when it all started.

00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:15.009
I've been down that road before, so I know how

00:31:15.009 --> 00:31:17.410
to get to it. It took me five to ten minutes

00:31:17.410 --> 00:31:20.490
to find it. I thought, that's odd. When we found

00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:22.250
it, it got ice cold to the point I had to put

00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:26.109
the heat on. Okay, no big deal. Coming up to

00:31:26.109 --> 00:31:27.990
the first curve, I looked in the mirror and thought,

00:31:28.109 --> 00:31:31.190
where did that car come from? There hasn't been

00:31:31.190 --> 00:31:32.710
a driveway or street for about three quarters

00:31:32.710 --> 00:31:36.230
of a mile, but he's going so fast. I looked back

00:31:36.230 --> 00:31:38.859
at the road. then back at the mirror, and the

00:31:38.859 --> 00:31:42.339
distance between us was cut in half. This person

00:31:42.339 --> 00:31:44.859
is going to crash, I said to my daughter. Again,

00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:46.859
I looked back at the road, back to my mirror,

00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:50.140
and the headlights were at my bumper. How fast

00:31:50.140 --> 00:31:52.700
does this guy want me to go? Again, I looked

00:31:52.700 --> 00:31:55.799
at the road, back in the mirror. Where did he

00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.940
go? If he turned off, surely we would have seen

00:31:58.940 --> 00:32:01.900
headlights somewhere. It was pitch black. No

00:32:01.900 --> 00:32:04.059
streetlights anywhere on this road. On the right

00:32:04.059 --> 00:32:06.380
were cornfields. On the left, trees and a salt

00:32:06.380 --> 00:32:10.299
marsh. Crap, he crashed. We turned around with

00:32:10.299 --> 00:32:13.819
nothing to show from where he went. Okay, time

00:32:13.819 --> 00:32:17.440
to go. Just then, three mists traveled in opposite

00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.880
directions in front of the car. Two right, one

00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.900
left. Okay, time to get out of here. But I couldn't

00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:27.000
see out of the windshield. It wouldn't clear

00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.700
with the wipers and fluid. The more I used the

00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:33.460
wipers, the worse it got. Okay. Now we were freaking

00:32:33.460 --> 00:32:36.039
out. We finally got out of that, and it took

00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.019
us 15 minutes to get out of the area. But no

00:32:39.019 --> 00:32:40.799
matter which way we went, we ended up back at

00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.680
13 curves. Now mind you, I don't ever get lost.

00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.500
So my daughter pulled out her GPS. It kept taking

00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:50.819
us back to 13 curves. I finally found an area

00:32:50.819 --> 00:32:52.680
I knew and started driving back to the highway,

00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:56.720
or so I thought. Guess where we ended up? Yep,

00:32:56.859 --> 00:33:02.579
13 curves. Once again, back to the GPS. We got

00:33:02.579 --> 00:33:04.759
on the road out to the highway, and it said we're

00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.579
going back to 13 Curves, but I just had a feeling

00:33:07.579 --> 00:33:11.059
that if we kept going straight, yes, we were

00:33:11.059 --> 00:33:14.460
back on the highway. Back on the highway, my

00:33:14.460 --> 00:33:16.339
daughter's friend asked, did you see those people?

00:33:16.819 --> 00:33:19.079
And my daughter finished with saying, standing

00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.140
on the rock watching us go by, yes. They were

00:33:22.140 --> 00:33:25.559
both freaked out. I didn't see anyone. That was

00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:29.039
my second and last trip down that road. The whole

00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:30.700
ordeal took about 30 minutes for something that

00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:33.599
should have taken five. Now I know and understand

00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:37.619
why people stay off it at night. All right, guys,

00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:38.799
I'm going to tell you right now, I think that's

00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:43.519
bullshit. It's obviously bullshit. I had a hard

00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.160
time even finishing it, but I included it because

00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.519
I am so interested in this particular trope of,

00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:54.259
and it seems to be a very American trope. Now

00:33:54.259 --> 00:33:55.779
it could be, Paul, you would know better than

00:33:55.779 --> 00:33:59.039
I would, but. For example, I just finished, today

00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.440
I'm putting the last touches on volume five,

00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.240
the audio book for these haunted times for Ruth.

00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.799
And there are so many stories in there of these

00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.000
haunted roads where a car is said to come up

00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.980
right behind you and then disappear out of nowhere.

00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.139
And like she mentions, Rainbow Road, I'm familiar

00:34:18.139 --> 00:34:20.539
with one from New York State called Buckout Road.

00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.400
there's so many and i know there's two but there

00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.179
are many many many stories like this and they

00:34:25.179 --> 00:34:28.179
all follow the same pattern and i can't figure

00:34:28.179 --> 00:34:30.900
out if it's just lazy american myth making uh

00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:32.980
because obviously like 13 curves this is probably

00:34:32.980 --> 00:34:34.960
something people believe is real and there may

00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.219
even be a road which has some curves probably

00:34:37.219 --> 00:34:41.619
not fucking 13 um but i i just i'm i think it's

00:34:41.619 --> 00:34:43.440
really interesting that this is a motif that

00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.500
keeps coming up in american folklore Yeah, we

00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:48.460
don't have many. I can think of probably one

00:34:48.460 --> 00:34:51.099
or two, if that, of ghost cars that chase people

00:34:51.099 --> 00:34:54.659
and then vanish. Yeah. Yeah, it's such a... Even

00:34:54.659 --> 00:34:56.039
going... Like, I just saw today that they're

00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.900
remaking Urban Legend. Thank God. I will fight

00:34:59.900 --> 00:35:01.719
you. I like that movie. I don't remember much

00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:04.519
about it, to be honest. I mean, I think Jared

00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:06.280
Leto dies, so, you know, it's not all bad news.

00:35:06.579 --> 00:35:12.940
Right, I'm in. But even that, it's got the same

00:35:12.940 --> 00:35:14.840
idea, right? The idea that you're driving towards

00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.039
someone, And their headlights, like you flash

00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:20.440
your brights or something, and then they run

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.460
you off the road. And it's all this, again, very

00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:26.860
car -centric kind of homicidal maniac shit, which

00:35:26.860 --> 00:35:29.880
again, maybe because America just has so much

00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.760
more car culture. than anywhere else because

00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.599
obviously in canada you know we drive great distances

00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.380
too but i feel like it's the car is not as much

00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:39.460
a part of our national identity even though it

00:35:39.460 --> 00:35:41.380
is you know just as indispensable here by and

00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:43.179
large because we don't have aside from a couple

00:35:43.179 --> 00:35:45.119
major cities we don't have great transit and

00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:48.559
everything is so far apart um but it just yeah

00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:50.900
i i'm always interested when you see stuff like

00:35:50.900 --> 00:35:52.280
this because you always think well maybe somewhere

00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:56.199
back there there is a kernel of truth yeah i

00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.659
think there's clearly some cultural touch point

00:35:58.659 --> 00:36:01.960
there for it because like you say i think A lot,

00:36:01.980 --> 00:36:05.380
especially post -war American teen culture is

00:36:05.380 --> 00:36:08.280
all car -based for a lot of it. There's lots

00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.440
of people souping their cars up and driving and

00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.619
racing and songs written about it, you know,

00:36:13.699 --> 00:36:17.000
Paradise by a Dashboard Light and other such

00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.579
classic songs of the ilk of that nature. So it's

00:36:20.579 --> 00:36:24.539
ingrained, I think, especially in that sort of

00:36:24.539 --> 00:36:27.500
post -war generation's DNA, I would imagine.

00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:28.960
And I would imagine it's part of that. It'd be

00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:30.440
interesting to see when the first ones appear.

00:36:31.050 --> 00:36:33.070
Yeah. Yeah. If anyone out there knows, if we

00:36:33.070 --> 00:36:34.889
have any sort of sociologists or folklorists

00:36:34.889 --> 00:36:37.469
in the crowd, let us know. Be very curious to

00:36:37.469 --> 00:36:40.610
know when this stuff kind of enters, first enters

00:36:40.610 --> 00:36:43.269
the sort of the popular consciousness. Again,

00:36:43.369 --> 00:36:45.449
I just think it's really funny how lazy everyone

00:36:45.449 --> 00:36:48.250
is because it's always, it's either cultists

00:36:48.250 --> 00:36:52.230
or demon cars or both if you're feeling really

00:36:52.230 --> 00:36:55.050
sassy, but it's always in the woods. It always

00:36:55.050 --> 00:36:57.289
involves people in robes, usually again, Satanists

00:36:57.289 --> 00:37:00.610
and phantom cars for some reason or another.

00:37:01.019 --> 00:37:06.179
It is. I heard one of those exact stories about

00:37:06.179 --> 00:37:08.860
somewhere on an episode of Monsters Among Us

00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:12.300
several years ago. And that was one of them where

00:37:12.300 --> 00:37:16.900
they were chased away by cultists in robes. Yeah.

00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.019
Yeah. I mean, I think on one of our, I want to

00:37:20.019 --> 00:37:22.539
say our Pittsburgh episode, we had one like that.

00:37:23.980 --> 00:37:25.960
There's like a covered bridge or something. There's

00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.280
allegedly a bunch of guys. in cult robes. I mean,

00:37:29.300 --> 00:37:31.260
I do kind of wonder if it's just sort of like

00:37:31.260 --> 00:37:35.519
the boogeyman in the cultural consciousness at

00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.920
the time. So in the 80s, it was satanic panics.

00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:40.619
We're scared of cultists. There's cultists everywhere.

00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:44.019
In the 50s, we're terrified of teenagers because,

00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.420
I don't know, rock and roll music and hoop skirts

00:37:46.420 --> 00:37:48.519
are scary. Kind of makes you wonder if next we're

00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:49.760
going to hear stories about people being chased

00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.840
down dark roads by the singular they pronoun.

00:37:57.699 --> 00:37:59.340
Honestly, I'm almost afraid to make that joke

00:37:59.340 --> 00:38:00.420
because I think there are people out there who

00:38:00.420 --> 00:38:03.519
actually believe that. So, you know, actually,

00:38:03.619 --> 00:38:11.219
this is tangentially related. So I've come to

00:38:11.219 --> 00:38:13.800
the conclusion that anyone who actually wants

00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.420
to go viral has some kind of brain damage. And

00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:20.639
I'll tell you why. Because I was at the gym the

00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.019
other day and I noticed the guy in the locker

00:38:23.019 --> 00:38:25.820
room had a T -shirt that said, this means war.

00:38:26.269 --> 00:38:28.090
on the back. I didn't see exactly what it was

00:38:28.090 --> 00:38:30.329
advertising. I've since been informed that it's

00:38:30.329 --> 00:38:32.050
this one supplement brand that actually makes

00:38:32.050 --> 00:38:34.329
pretty good stuff. But the point is, I was like,

00:38:34.369 --> 00:38:38.090
that's a very aggressive shirt. And so I posted

00:38:38.090 --> 00:38:41.730
something on Threads and Blue Sky, put the same

00:38:41.730 --> 00:38:43.110
thing out on both platforms because I want to

00:38:43.110 --> 00:38:44.349
see what the difference in reaction would be.

00:38:45.030 --> 00:38:47.769
And essentially I said, at this point, I've been

00:38:47.769 --> 00:38:49.590
lifting weights for 20 years and still can't

00:38:49.590 --> 00:38:51.750
wrap my head around gym culture. There's a guy

00:38:51.750 --> 00:38:53.750
in here wearing a supplement tee that says, this

00:38:53.750 --> 00:38:56.550
means war. War? We're lifting heavy stuff and

00:38:56.550 --> 00:38:58.269
putting it back down again because our dads didn't

00:38:58.269 --> 00:39:04.469
love us, my guy. Maybe try therapy. And again,

00:39:04.670 --> 00:39:06.809
I'm just, I'm having a laugh. Wear whatever.

00:39:07.010 --> 00:39:09.989
I literally, I wear a gun store t -shirt to the

00:39:09.989 --> 00:39:12.210
gym because I got it for free. So I go to the

00:39:12.210 --> 00:39:13.690
gym sometimes with a fucking shirt that has an

00:39:13.690 --> 00:39:17.090
AK -47 on it. So I'm not exactly, you know, cleaning

00:39:17.090 --> 00:39:19.710
all this. So clearly this is a joke. This is

00:39:19.710 --> 00:39:22.309
not meant to be taken literally. It did numbers

00:39:22.309 --> 00:39:24.809
on blue sky and threads. It did way more on threads.

00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:28.269
And I tell you, Paul, the replies to that message,

00:39:28.449 --> 00:39:31.289
I used to say, if I go missing, it's the good

00:39:31.289 --> 00:39:33.510
folk who you should be looking at. Now, I think

00:39:33.510 --> 00:39:35.809
you should check the reply to that thread and

00:39:35.809 --> 00:39:38.369
use that for your list of potential suspects.

00:39:38.570 --> 00:39:41.909
Man, people got fucking mad at me. And again,

00:39:42.050 --> 00:39:44.230
I'm kidding. Wear whatever the fuck you want

00:39:44.230 --> 00:39:46.489
to the gym. I just, this is a funny little observation

00:39:46.489 --> 00:39:50.219
from my goofy brain. Oh no. They swooped down

00:39:50.219 --> 00:39:52.880
out of the trees like howler monkeys. It was

00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:56.019
madness. And I thought, who wants this? Who wants

00:39:56.019 --> 00:39:58.260
this kind of, why would anyone want to go viral?

00:39:58.340 --> 00:40:00.460
This sounds like the dumbest thing in the world.

00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:03.719
You made Brad so angry, spat out his supplement,

00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:07.320
typed feverishly with his fat fingers. You're

00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.079
not wrong. There were people, man, attacking

00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:15.139
my weight, my looks, my, oh man, I didn't read

00:40:15.139 --> 00:40:16.539
most of it because who gives a shit? They're

00:40:16.539 --> 00:40:19.679
a bunch of dickless losers. I just like, wow,

00:40:19.860 --> 00:40:23.360
you've just taken this to heart. Because to me,

00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:26.000
there's nothing that says I'm balanced, like

00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:29.300
typing the gym is my therapy in all caps to a

00:40:29.300 --> 00:40:31.039
stranger in response to a joke on the internet.

00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.900
I don't think it's working, fella. I don't think

00:40:34.900 --> 00:40:37.119
it's working. Takes the edge off the steroids.

00:40:37.780 --> 00:40:40.920
Yeah, yeah. No, no. I'm feeling like maybe it

00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.219
doesn't. Oh, I'm just going to have some PCP

00:40:43.219 --> 00:40:49.079
take the edge off. Oh, man. You know, it's funny.

00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.119
Someone once asked me, do you take steroids?

00:40:52.260 --> 00:40:54.340
Because if I'm really working out a lot, less

00:40:54.340 --> 00:40:55.739
so now as I get older, but when I was younger,

00:40:55.820 --> 00:40:58.739
I developed muscle very quickly. And the answer

00:40:58.739 --> 00:41:02.079
is always no, because I don't need something

00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.119
destabilizing my mood further. But there's this

00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.500
doctor I follow on YouTube. He's a bodybuilding

00:41:08.500 --> 00:41:11.980
guru, whatever. A lot of interesting information.

00:41:12.260 --> 00:41:14.219
Been very valuable for me as I kind of change

00:41:14.219 --> 00:41:18.000
up the way I lift as I get older. But he takes

00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.099
gear and he's very open about it. And he said,

00:41:21.179 --> 00:41:22.400
and bear in mind, this is a really intelligent

00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.400
guy, very funny guy too, actually. And well,

00:41:25.460 --> 00:41:27.960
sometimes, but he's like, oh yeah, no, when I'm

00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.559
on the gear, all I think about is violence. Oh,

00:41:30.739 --> 00:41:35.820
fantastic. Well, this great, great, good for

00:41:35.820 --> 00:41:38.039
you. It's shortening your lifespan and turning

00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:41.380
you into some kind of monster. I eat puppies.

00:41:41.940 --> 00:41:44.840
Yeah. Yeah, I feel like Liver King, we're going

00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.119
to get to the Delaware bit here in a sec, but

00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:50.300
like the Liver King, when he finally accidentally

00:41:50.300 --> 00:41:52.980
admitted to taking 15 grand worth of gear every

00:41:52.980 --> 00:41:55.639
month, no wonder the guy's skin is red. He must

00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:58.059
be just in a constant state of rage. One, from

00:41:58.059 --> 00:42:01.239
being the Liver King, and two, just the pure

00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.139
testosterone coursing through his veins. Are

00:42:04.139 --> 00:42:08.000
you sure this wasn't Thunderbolt Ross? Liver

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:13.429
King wishes he was Thunderbolt Ross. All right,

00:42:13.469 --> 00:42:16.150
so this is part two of our 13 haunted spots around

00:42:16.150 --> 00:42:18.190
Delaware. Again, this is from... I don't have

00:42:18.190 --> 00:42:19.449
to tell you again. You're not tuning in. This

00:42:19.449 --> 00:42:20.989
isn't a fucking radio station. Sometimes I get

00:42:20.989 --> 00:42:23.389
confused. Just in case you're tuning in to this

00:42:23.389 --> 00:42:25.449
podcast that you have to download. No, I'm sorry,

00:42:25.510 --> 00:42:29.070
guys. All right, so haunt three is Patty Cannon's

00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:32.889
house. Patty Cannon was a six -foot, 230 -pound

00:42:32.889 --> 00:42:35.570
murderess. She used to take on boarders in her

00:42:35.570 --> 00:42:37.769
house, but the boarders would mysteriously disappear

00:42:37.769 --> 00:42:40.400
during the night. Legend was that she would open

00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.960
a secret bookcase, drag the borders through and

00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.800
kill them, then dump them in the basement. She

00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:48.380
also ran a slave trade, Jesus Christ, kidnapping

00:42:48.380 --> 00:42:51.159
free slaves and selling them back into slavery.

00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.059
By all accounts, she was not a nice woman. No

00:42:54.059 --> 00:42:56.460
fucking shit, guys. That's the fucking understatement

00:42:56.460 --> 00:42:58.559
of the year. Yeah, no kidding, right? It's like,

00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:04.400
oh, this is my pen pal, Elizabeth Bathory. And

00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:09.059
just the concept of cancer. Anyways. Her house

00:43:09.059 --> 00:43:11.139
is in Reliance, Maryland, and almost straddles

00:43:11.139 --> 00:43:13.719
the Delaware, Maryland line. People used to report

00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.500
her to the police, but if she saw a Maryland

00:43:15.500 --> 00:43:17.760
sheriff coming, she'd just walk over the line

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.059
into Delaware. I don't think that's how that

00:43:20.059 --> 00:43:22.159
works, but whatever. What the fuck? I read that

00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:23.659
last story. I guess I can't bitch about this.

00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:28.500
Finally, someone found a body in her basement

00:43:28.500 --> 00:43:32.199
and took her in. This does not speak well to

00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:34.320
the law enforcement in this area. Like, well,

00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.579
this woman runs like a startled squirrel every

00:43:36.579 --> 00:43:38.679
time they turn up. And all her boarders never

00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.739
fucking check out? But cops hate this one weird

00:43:41.739 --> 00:43:48.980
trick. Click the link now. Like and subscribe.

00:43:49.500 --> 00:43:51.840
It was going to be a big trial. All the town

00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.179
turned out to watch. But Patty Cannon killed

00:43:54.179 --> 00:43:56.739
herself before the trial started. She was left

00:43:56.739 --> 00:43:58.980
in a pauper's grave and her skull was later stolen.

00:43:59.420 --> 00:44:02.260
It's in the library in Dover now. But Patty Cannon's

00:44:02.260 --> 00:44:04.519
ghost still haunts her house. Perhaps searching

00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.309
for her lost head. They should send the different

00:44:08.309 --> 00:44:10.050
parts of her body to the different corners of

00:44:10.050 --> 00:44:15.969
the country like William fucking Wallace. That

00:44:15.969 --> 00:44:19.809
was an adventure. There used to be a brothel

00:44:19.809 --> 00:44:23.550
somewhere that was built on train lines that

00:44:23.550 --> 00:44:28.050
they used to push into a different state. Prostitution

00:44:28.050 --> 00:44:30.230
was legal there. I can't remember where it is,

00:44:30.269 --> 00:44:32.449
but it's a very famous case. If you remember,

00:44:32.690 --> 00:44:36.469
you know, tell me for my friend. And they would

00:44:36.469 --> 00:44:38.230
push it. I can't remember if it's Arizona, New

00:44:38.230 --> 00:44:41.630
Mexico, that kind of area. And they'd just push

00:44:41.630 --> 00:44:44.210
it over the state line. This is why we need high

00:44:44.210 --> 00:44:52.150
speed rail. So haunt number four is the Luz ferry

00:44:52.150 --> 00:44:54.969
terminal. If you've ever parked your car in Luz

00:44:54.969 --> 00:44:57.690
to take the ferry over to Cape May, your car

00:44:57.690 --> 00:45:00.690
was sitting on a burial ground. That's right.

00:45:00.849 --> 00:45:04.530
In 1964, they needed a parking lot for the ferry

00:45:04.530 --> 00:45:07.480
in Delaware. so they paved right over the unknown

00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:13.119
sailor's graveyard. Brilliant. The historical

00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.440
marker behind the gift shop is the only indication

00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.019
that the dead soldiers lie beneath the blacktop.

00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.599
There are stories of a haunted copier -toner

00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:26.079
forming the shape of a monk, sightings of a woman

00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:27.880
scrubbing the floor when there's no cleaning

00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.639
crew on the premises, and one woman feeling like

00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:33.769
there's an arm holding her down. They were reaching

00:45:33.769 --> 00:45:38.130
for that one. Jesus Christ. And there's a Virgin

00:45:38.130 --> 00:45:41.389
Mary on a piece of toast. Why would a monk be

00:45:41.389 --> 00:45:44.130
there, not a sailor? There's a lot of unresolved

00:45:44.130 --> 00:45:47.289
questions in this one. Well, it's always nice

00:45:47.289 --> 00:45:52.190
to respect the lost, isn't it? Yeah. Thank you

00:45:52.190 --> 00:45:54.570
for your service. Here's a mass grave and a plaque.

00:45:54.789 --> 00:45:56.610
I mean, that sounds about right. I know a guy

00:45:56.610 --> 00:45:58.190
who can't get health insurance despite the fact

00:45:58.190 --> 00:46:00.809
he served in the US military. So this checks

00:46:00.809 --> 00:46:03.210
out. You had your parade. What else do you want

00:46:03.210 --> 00:46:05.929
from us? Ongoing care for the injuries you sustained

00:46:05.929 --> 00:46:08.150
while defending your country? Oh, we're not going

00:46:08.150 --> 00:46:11.010
to help you with that. Absolutely not. All right.

00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:12.869
Well, you know what's not shameful? This next

00:46:12.869 --> 00:46:15.949
ad break. Because we love capitalism here at

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the Ghost Story Guys. At least when it works

00:46:17.409 --> 00:46:24.289
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us from capitalism. Think of that, you are a

00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:35.599
bulwark against capitalism. That's, oh, we should

00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:36.659
have, I should have thought of this a long time

00:46:36.659 --> 00:46:41.800
ago. Consider yourself a Che Guevara. Anyways,

00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:49.579
here's the answer. The man in the hotel room.

00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.719
This happened about nine or ten years ago, and

00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:55.980
it's something I've never figured out, and maybe

00:46:55.980 --> 00:46:58.719
something I'll never figure out, but it stuck

00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.320
with me all this time. Let me preface this by

00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:06.139
saying I get sleep paralysis. I've had more instances

00:47:06.139 --> 00:47:09.380
of sleep paralysis than I can count, but I'd

00:47:09.380 --> 00:47:11.739
say an average around four times a year for the

00:47:11.739 --> 00:47:16.159
past 30 years. Some years it's more often, some

00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:19.340
years it's less. But by the time this experience

00:47:19.340 --> 00:47:21.940
occurred, I was well versed enough to be able

00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:24.539
to identify when it's happening and to be able

00:47:24.539 --> 00:47:27.400
to pull myself out of it, because I have my own

00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.849
method. Generally, When I get an attack of sleep

00:47:30.849 --> 00:47:33.809
paralysis, I can hear everything around me, but

00:47:33.809 --> 00:47:36.489
I can't move or make a noise. I've never seen

00:47:36.489 --> 00:47:39.070
the old hag, and only once have I seen the man

00:47:39.070 --> 00:47:41.849
with the wide -brimmed hat, and he had red eyes

00:47:41.849 --> 00:47:45.050
when I saw him. And yes, he was pushing down

00:47:45.050 --> 00:47:49.670
on my chest. Not cool, not fun, and I never want

00:47:49.670 --> 00:47:52.570
that to happen again. But I also knew he wasn't

00:47:52.570 --> 00:47:56.090
real as it was happening. So about 1 % of the

00:47:56.090 --> 00:47:58.960
time I've had a visual hallucination. Normally,

00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.639
it's just I can't move or speak, I can hear everything

00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.539
around me, and somehow see the room even though

00:48:04.539 --> 00:48:09.000
my eyes are shut. But this, it didn't fit the

00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.760
mould of sleep paralysis, at least not in a way

00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.380
that I've ever experienced it, and that's why

00:48:14.380 --> 00:48:17.300
it's bothered me so much then, and it still bothers

00:48:17.300 --> 00:48:20.280
me now. My son was young at the time, maybe around

00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.940
five or six. My then -husband, now ex, and I

00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:27.159
drove to visit grandmother for Christmas. She

00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:29.920
lives around 100 miles away from me. She's two

00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.260
extra bedrooms, but other family members scooped

00:48:32.260 --> 00:48:34.579
up the extra rooms before we could. My husband

00:48:34.579 --> 00:48:36.920
and I rented a hotel room a few miles from her

00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:40.059
house. It was something like a Best Western or

00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:42.860
a Holiday Inn. If I had to guess, I'd say at

00:48:42.860 --> 00:48:44.920
the time it was probably less than 10 years old.

00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:48.380
We checked into our hotel room quickly, dropped

00:48:48.380 --> 00:48:50.519
our stuff off and went straight to my grandmother's

00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.119
house. We had Christmas dinner with the family.

00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:56.539
I don't think I'd had any alcohol at all. If

00:48:56.539 --> 00:48:59.539
I did, it was maybe just a glass of wine. And

00:48:59.539 --> 00:49:01.519
it was a long drive down to her house, two hours

00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.320
at least, and then an eventful evening, so we

00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.400
were beat. We left her house probably around

00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.719
9pm and headed back to our hotel room. We drove

00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:12.619
around for an extra 20 minutes, trying to get

00:49:12.619 --> 00:49:15.480
our cranky son back to sleep, which made me even

00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.039
more exhausted. The exhaustion is the thing that

00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.420
had me thinking that maybe this was sleep paralysis,

00:49:21.579 --> 00:49:24.280
because that usually triggers it for me. But

00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.860
again, what happened next is like nothing I've

00:49:26.860 --> 00:49:30.539
experienced before or since. The layout of the

00:49:30.539 --> 00:49:33.059
room is that the hotel door opened up into a

00:49:33.059 --> 00:49:35.699
little hallway, and directly to the left is the

00:49:35.699 --> 00:49:38.659
bathroom with a tiny closet next to it. Moving

00:49:38.659 --> 00:49:41.199
just past the hallway, the wall on the left turned

00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:43.619
90 degrees and the beds were also to the left.

00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.679
To the right, you could follow the wall straight

00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.199
to the corner. There was a dresser along that

00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.480
wall, and in that corner was an armchair. From

00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.590
that corner… Follow the wall and there was a

00:49:54.590 --> 00:49:57.210
window facing the parking lot and in the next

00:49:57.210 --> 00:49:59.429
corner there was another armchair, maybe three

00:49:59.429 --> 00:50:01.269
feet from the head of one of the queen beds.

00:50:02.110 --> 00:50:05.829
This is where my husband and I slept. So we're

00:50:05.829 --> 00:50:08.369
exhausted. My son had fallen asleep in the car

00:50:08.369 --> 00:50:11.050
and I tucked him in and very quickly got changed

00:50:11.050 --> 00:50:14.789
and into bed. My husband was in bed only moments

00:50:14.789 --> 00:50:18.440
later and I shut the lights off. Before I fell

00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.760
asleep, I observed that the light from the parking

00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:22.900
lot peeked in over and around the side of the

00:50:22.900 --> 00:50:25.719
window curtain. It was brighter than I would

00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:27.900
have imagined with the curtains drawn, but I

00:50:27.900 --> 00:50:30.239
was too exhausted for it to bother me, and I

00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:34.800
passed out quickly. Sometime in the middle of

00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.599
the night, I hear the click of a door handle

00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:41.500
turning, the lever kind. I was alarmed, but my

00:50:41.500 --> 00:50:44.340
body was still heavy with sleep, and I'm also

00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:47.699
facing the direction of the door. I watch as

00:50:47.699 --> 00:50:49.860
the orange light from the hotel hallway slides

00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:52.760
across the wall opposite of me, and then slowly

00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.559
disappeared as the door closes again, quietly.

00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.739
I felt like I was passing in and out of sleep,

00:50:59.820 --> 00:51:02.119
so the sight of this almost had a strobing effect.

00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.820
A young man wearing medium blue, baggy jeans

00:51:05.820 --> 00:51:07.980
and no shirt walks past the end of our beds.

00:51:08.500 --> 00:51:11.079
At this point I'm more alert, but laying in bed

00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:13.000
trying to figure out if this is real or not,

00:51:13.179 --> 00:51:16.019
because it's so vivid. but I also have this feeling

00:51:16.019 --> 00:51:18.079
I was passing in and out of consciousness still.

00:51:18.940 --> 00:51:20.860
From the moment I heard the click of the door

00:51:20.860 --> 00:51:23.860
handle, I'm scared out of my mind, but I'm still

00:51:23.860 --> 00:51:28.039
so, so tired. I want to get up. I want to scream,

00:51:28.219 --> 00:51:31.280
but I can't tell what's holding me in bed. Is

00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.139
it fear or exhaustion? At this point, the man

00:51:35.139 --> 00:51:37.900
is behind me. I can feel him looking at me, but

00:51:37.900 --> 00:51:41.900
I'm absolutely terrified to turn over. If I turn

00:51:41.900 --> 00:51:44.190
over, Is it going to spook him and he'll attack

00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:47.250
my family? Right now I can tell he's not moving,

00:51:47.389 --> 00:51:50.849
just looking at me. I finally felt alert enough

00:51:50.849 --> 00:51:54.110
and realised my eyes are closed. What? But I

00:51:54.110 --> 00:51:56.510
can feel him in the room. It was the scariest

00:51:56.510 --> 00:51:58.690
thing I've ever done because I might be facing

00:51:58.690 --> 00:52:01.429
an attacker in my hotel room. But I force my

00:52:01.429 --> 00:52:05.469
eyes open and turn over. Nothing. There's no

00:52:05.469 --> 00:52:09.030
one in the room. My heart's racing. Jesus, that

00:52:09.030 --> 00:52:12.119
was so real. I look at my husband and he's fast

00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.199
asleep with his back turned to me, snoring gently.

00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:18.219
My son is asleep. Everything is how it was when

00:52:18.219 --> 00:52:20.619
I fell asleep. I'm still on my back, looking

00:52:20.619 --> 00:52:22.639
at the armchair in the corner at the end of the

00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.199
beds with the soft white light of the parking

00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:27.920
lot falling onto the chair and I begin to calm

00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.039
down enough to fall back asleep. I can't tell

00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:33.460
you how much time passed but it was dark and

00:52:33.460 --> 00:52:35.340
then all of a sudden I can see the armchair in

00:52:35.340 --> 00:52:37.460
the corner of the foot of the bed again. but

00:52:37.460 --> 00:52:39.500
this time the man that entered the room earlier

00:52:39.500 --> 00:52:42.659
is now sitting in it. With the light shining

00:52:42.659 --> 00:52:44.820
from the window I can see him a little better.

00:52:45.739 --> 00:52:48.500
It's a soft light and I can tell that his hair

00:52:48.500 --> 00:52:51.480
is budged short and it's dark brown. He looks

00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:55.880
young, around 18 to 25 years old. He's either

00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.239
white with a tan or maybe Hispanic. I can't see

00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.260
his face features too well but he could be a

00:53:01.260 --> 00:53:03.519
model. I don't know celebrities well enough to

00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:05.719
be able to compare him to someone but he's strong

00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.949
cheekbones. the sort of perfect nose and a strong

00:53:08.949 --> 00:53:12.630
jaw. Too dark to see the details, but just his

00:53:12.630 --> 00:53:15.949
silhouette. He's sitting there, calmly, just

00:53:15.949 --> 00:53:18.750
staring at me. He doesn't feel threatening or

00:53:18.750 --> 00:53:21.429
menacing, but I'm still scared out of my mind

00:53:21.429 --> 00:53:23.869
because there's a guy in my room in the middle

00:53:23.869 --> 00:53:27.050
of the night sat staring at me. This time the

00:53:27.050 --> 00:53:29.309
line between asleep and awake is even blurrier

00:53:29.309 --> 00:53:33.750
in my head. Am I asleep? Are my eyes open? I

00:53:33.750 --> 00:53:37.489
don't know, but I'm afraid to find out. I can

00:53:37.489 --> 00:53:39.949
feel my husband asleep next to me, so I decide

00:53:39.949 --> 00:53:42.070
the best move is to try and discreetly wake my

00:53:42.070 --> 00:53:44.989
husband. He's still snoring with his back turned

00:53:44.989 --> 00:53:47.309
to me, but my hand is on the bed next to his

00:53:47.309 --> 00:53:50.469
back, so I decide to slowly move my hand closer

00:53:50.469 --> 00:53:54.269
to his back and poke him. Finally I decide, F

00:53:54.269 --> 00:53:56.750
this, I'm not dealing with this alone anymore,

00:53:56.909 --> 00:53:59.550
and I turn towards my husband slightly, lift

00:53:59.550 --> 00:54:02.510
myself on my elbow. This is where I'm sure I'm

00:54:02.510 --> 00:54:04.849
awake, but before this, everything was blurry.

00:54:05.449 --> 00:54:07.409
and I'm about to grab his arm and shake the hell

00:54:07.409 --> 00:54:10.030
out of him when I notice the man is no longer

00:54:10.030 --> 00:54:13.769
sitting in the chair anymore. Now I feel crazy.

00:54:14.030 --> 00:54:16.570
What's going on? Where is this guy? Is he real

00:54:16.570 --> 00:54:20.409
or not? I'm so tired, confused, frustrated and

00:54:20.409 --> 00:54:24.269
scared. This man feels real. The details are

00:54:24.269 --> 00:54:26.650
so vivid, but as I'm trying to sift through what

00:54:26.650 --> 00:54:29.630
is reality and what isn't, I realise. I think

00:54:29.630 --> 00:54:31.710
I can only see or feel this guy when I'm asleep.

00:54:32.710 --> 00:54:35.489
I pray to myself that that's the end of it. and

00:54:35.489 --> 00:54:37.449
I'm trying to convince myself now that this is

00:54:37.449 --> 00:54:40.110
just my brain creating an elaborate lucid dream

00:54:40.110 --> 00:54:42.489
and I'm safe, and it should stop now because

00:54:42.489 --> 00:54:44.610
this is just a stupid dream and I've realised

00:54:44.610 --> 00:54:48.309
this. I roll towards my husband, facing his back.

00:54:48.789 --> 00:54:51.429
I close my eyes and start to drift off to sleep

00:54:51.429 --> 00:54:54.269
again. I swear it was only a few minutes later,

00:54:54.409 --> 00:54:57.769
and this time I can't see anything, but I feel

00:54:57.769 --> 00:55:00.369
the guy looking at me, but this time while sitting

00:55:00.369 --> 00:55:02.829
in the chair that's three feet away from my husband's

00:55:02.829 --> 00:55:07.980
head. So I open my eyes and nobody's there. For

00:55:07.980 --> 00:55:09.659
the rest of the night, I probably woke up every

00:55:09.659 --> 00:55:13.199
hour or so. Every time I fell asleep, I could

00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:16.119
feel this man's presence in the room. He never

00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.760
tried to hurt us. He just watched us all night.

00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.000
When I finally saw daylight through the curtains,

00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:25.380
I got up and woke my husband up and told him

00:55:25.380 --> 00:55:28.019
we had to leave. I tried not to alarm him or

00:55:28.019 --> 00:55:31.019
my son. I just got them up and dressed. and I

00:55:31.019 --> 00:55:33.260
think we were out of that hotel by around 7 .30

00:55:33.260 --> 00:55:36.119
in the morning. The whole thing had a surreal

00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.400
quality to it, because with the exception of

00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:41.059
a few distinct moments, it was hard to tell when

00:55:41.059 --> 00:55:43.159
my eyes were open and when they were closed,

00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:46.239
when I was fully conscious, and when I was maybe

00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:49.019
semi -conscious. There were parts of it that

00:55:49.019 --> 00:55:50.679
I could write off as a dream if they weren't

00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.920
so damn vivid. And that whole night, the lingering

00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.800
feeling of being watched, even when I couldn't

00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:01.019
see him. Every time I recount this incident to

00:56:01.019 --> 00:56:04.420
myself or somewhere else, I'm no closer to understanding

00:56:04.420 --> 00:56:08.199
what happened. I refuse to go back to that hotel,

00:56:08.420 --> 00:56:11.199
though. I mean, in fairness, even though that

00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:12.820
very much seems like normal sleep paralysis,

00:56:13.019 --> 00:56:15.800
I would also not go back there. I don't know

00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:18.300
why, but I feel I've seen that story before.

00:56:18.780 --> 00:56:21.900
Oh, really? Literally within about two paragraphs,

00:56:21.980 --> 00:56:24.320
I thought, I know this story. It's about a young

00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:26.960
man in a hotel room that stares at her. And it

00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:29.000
was. Interesting. Maybe we've told it on the

00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:31.079
show here. I don't know. It's just really struck

00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:33.159
a chord with me. I felt like I'd read it somewhere

00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:36.500
else. I mean, we source these online, so very

00:56:36.500 --> 00:56:38.019
possible you've read it elsewhere. That seems

00:56:38.019 --> 00:56:41.199
exceedingly likely. It seems strangely familiar

00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.179
to me. I don't know. Maybe I've pushed through

00:56:43.179 --> 00:56:45.000
time again. I mean, you do have a knack for this,

00:56:45.099 --> 00:56:48.739
I will say. Maybe. It reminded me of this book

00:56:48.739 --> 00:56:51.219
I'm reading right now. It's called Raw Dog. It's

00:56:51.219 --> 00:56:55.039
a road trip book where the author, Jamie Loftus,

00:56:56.099 --> 00:56:59.420
samples hot dogs from all over America. She drives

00:56:59.420 --> 00:57:01.960
across America trying all these different sort

00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.079
of legendary hot dogs and also kind of mixes

00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.820
in with talk about competitive hot dog eating

00:57:07.820 --> 00:57:10.059
and the history of the hot dog and how it's made

00:57:10.059 --> 00:57:13.280
and things like this. And I'm only about a third

00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:14.980
of the way through, but one of the very first

00:57:14.980 --> 00:57:17.960
hotels she stays in, there is very clearly a

00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:19.800
meth deal happening while her and her boyfriend

00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:26.860
are checking in. I just think, yep. I mean, I've

00:57:26.860 --> 00:57:29.000
had not quite that experience, but one close

00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:35.000
to it. And the only thing scarier than having

00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.599
someone in your room is knowing that that same

00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.239
hotel is meth central. And it's very possible

00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:41.960
that person is actually someone in your room

00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:43.599
and not just sleep paralysis. I wouldn't know.

00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:45.280
Waking up in a crack house is pretty frightening.

00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:47.059
I lived in one. Yeah. No, it was. It was great.

00:57:47.300 --> 00:57:50.380
It's quite startling. Especially if you didn't

00:57:50.380 --> 00:57:57.099
start the night there. No. Oh, okay. And I don't

00:57:57.099 --> 00:58:02.900
do crack. What the fuck am I doing here? What's

00:58:02.900 --> 00:58:05.719
going on? It's like going to a barbecue place

00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:07.820
and having a sandwich. Why am I here? This doesn't

00:58:07.820 --> 00:58:10.539
make any sense. Just having the sandwich. Yeah,

00:58:10.539 --> 00:58:12.380
yeah, there you go. That's it. I'm here for the

00:58:12.380 --> 00:58:15.059
great conversation, obviously. See, if you hadn't

00:58:15.059 --> 00:58:16.420
let that lady tie you up, none of this would

00:58:16.420 --> 00:58:19.199
happen. They're in my eyes. They're in my eyes.

00:58:19.460 --> 00:58:21.619
What are? What are you on about? Can you not

00:58:21.619 --> 00:58:25.340
see the little men? Yeah, great night. I've only

00:58:25.340 --> 00:58:28.820
ever been around that once. And that was enough.

00:58:29.059 --> 00:58:31.159
I remember, I'll never forget the smell. And

00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:33.260
I said, what is that? And someone went, crack.

00:58:33.699 --> 00:58:36.940
Oh, cool. I'm going. I'm going to go be somewhere

00:58:36.940 --> 00:58:39.119
else that's not here. I'm going to go, I don't

00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.500
know, stick my head in a lion's mouth, play Frogger

00:58:42.500 --> 00:58:44.420
on a busy free, anything that's not hanging around

00:58:44.420 --> 00:58:47.280
around crackheads. Yeah, I once got chatted up

00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.460
by a very attractive young lady and we were outside

00:58:50.460 --> 00:58:52.179
and I was having a cigarette and she said, oh,

00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:53.619
do you mind if I smoke? And I went, no, of course

00:58:53.619 --> 00:58:55.079
not. I mean, I'm smoking, what are you on about?

00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:57.260
And she just pulled out a crack pipe. And I went,

00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:58.739
okay, I don't think we're going to have this

00:58:58.739 --> 00:59:04.159
conversation much longer. So, I can only tell

00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:07.960
part of this story. It was you. Surprise! Pull

00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:13.519
off my wig. Hello! Old man Smithers! No, I was

00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.239
at, I used to have a customer who'd come into

00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:18.000
the store and it was someone I'd worked with

00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:21.019
as well. And her brother -in -law, her former

00:59:21.019 --> 00:59:23.920
brother -in -law ended up getting together with

00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.159
a very beautiful, like a shockingly beautiful

00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:33.119
young lady. And it was bizarre because this guy

00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:37.079
was no prize and she was extraordinarily attractive.

00:59:38.439 --> 00:59:41.559
And at first, when they first got together, they

00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:42.800
would come in the store and he just, of course,

00:59:42.820 --> 00:59:44.539
he's beaming because he looks like a troll and

00:59:44.539 --> 00:59:46.900
she looks like, you know, the bride on top of

00:59:46.900 --> 00:59:51.039
a wedding cake. But then over time, they would

00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.739
come in and she looked progressively rougher.

00:59:53.900 --> 00:59:55.440
She was still very beautiful, but, you know,

00:59:55.460 --> 00:59:58.860
there were some miles that the cake had been

00:59:58.860 --> 01:00:02.579
left out in the rain in MacArthur Park. But he

01:00:02.579 --> 01:00:06.340
looked haunted. And I eventually ran into...

01:00:06.730 --> 01:00:09.130
Uh, my friend who, uh, who this woman I'd worked

01:00:09.130 --> 01:00:10.869
with, who was brother, ex -brother -in -law this

01:00:10.869 --> 01:00:13.190
was. And I said, so what's going on with so -and

01:00:13.190 --> 01:00:16.130
-so? And she went, oh God. So he got together

01:00:16.130 --> 01:00:19.190
with her. He was so happy about it, but all she

01:00:19.190 --> 01:00:21.769
wants to do is have sex and smoke crack and it's

01:00:21.769 --> 01:00:26.809
killing him. So be careful what you wish for

01:00:26.809 --> 01:00:33.250
folks. All right. Next up on our tour of haunted

01:00:33.250 --> 01:00:36.860
dental wear. We have Haunt 5, The Rockwood Mansion.

01:00:37.420 --> 01:00:39.940
The ghosts at Rockwood aren't lonely. There are

01:00:39.940 --> 01:00:41.639
plenty of spirits around to keep them company.

01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:44.280
One of the ghosts is believed to be named Mary,

01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:46.440
one of the last Renhurst daughters that lived

01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:48.940
in the house. She lived at Rockwood until she

01:00:48.940 --> 01:00:51.980
was 100 and died in the mansion. Philip Nord,

01:00:52.179 --> 01:00:54.179
the museum director at Rockwood, said people

01:00:54.179 --> 01:00:56.719
smell a lady's perfume and see a woman in the

01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:59.340
room that was Mary's. The psychics and ghost

01:00:59.340 --> 01:01:01.000
hunters at Frequent Rockwood report that ghosts

01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.360
don't mind people being there, but Mary doesn't

01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.000
particularly like people being in her private

01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.880
space. I'm with you, Mary. I get it. One of the

01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:10.599
psychics had conversations with several of the

01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:12.860
ghosts there, Phil said, including a young girl

01:01:12.860 --> 01:01:15.179
who had been jilted by her boyfriend and an elderly

01:01:15.179 --> 01:01:17.860
man who didn't know why he was dead. There are

01:01:17.860 --> 01:01:19.800
also several ghosts who don't live there, but

01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.599
pass through from time to time. Phil said that

01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:24.380
he was at Rockwood for an evening program once,

01:01:24.500 --> 01:01:27.139
when he felt like he was hit by a cold, wet cloud.

01:01:27.929 --> 01:01:30.449
He was spooked. Add that to the apparition and

01:01:30.449 --> 01:01:33.070
it sounds like we've got ourselves a ghost. Or

01:01:33.070 --> 01:01:36.070
several of them. And that kind of reminds me,

01:01:36.090 --> 01:01:38.269
I actually forgot to bitch about this with that

01:01:38.269 --> 01:01:40.909
bullshit story I read last, but they said three

01:01:40.909 --> 01:01:43.590
mists. How the fuck can you count separate mists?

01:01:43.909 --> 01:01:47.929
No. I could easily make out the three discrete

01:01:47.929 --> 01:01:50.309
mists. Get the fuck out of here, Jesus Christ.

01:01:50.489 --> 01:01:53.389
Write better fiction. Strangely, that's reminded

01:01:53.389 --> 01:01:56.329
me, when we were wandering around Chillingham,

01:01:56.650 --> 01:02:00.050
We went in one of the drawing rooms and the guides

01:02:00.050 --> 01:02:01.989
there were brilliant. All the staff there were

01:02:01.989 --> 01:02:05.170
so friendly and polite and nice. It was really

01:02:05.170 --> 01:02:09.429
good. And we went in the drawing room and we

01:02:09.429 --> 01:02:11.289
were talking about that. And Julie says, oh,

01:02:11.289 --> 01:02:12.829
have you ever seen anything? And she says, well,

01:02:12.889 --> 01:02:14.650
that's the thing about here. So you don't really

01:02:14.650 --> 01:02:17.769
see things. You feel them and you smell them.

01:02:18.869 --> 01:02:21.670
And she said, actually, a little earlier on,

01:02:21.730 --> 01:02:25.150
probably about two minutes ago. the whole room

01:02:25.150 --> 01:02:27.090
filled with the smell of lavender and that's

01:02:27.090 --> 01:02:29.469
who we prescribed to one of our ghosts Ethel

01:02:29.469 --> 01:02:32.230
I think she said and she said it was so strong

01:02:32.230 --> 01:02:33.989
if it was still here I'd invite you you could

01:02:33.989 --> 01:02:36.449
come under the ropes and have a and take in the

01:02:36.449 --> 01:02:38.769
aroma which was a bit sad that we just missed

01:02:38.769 --> 01:02:40.969
it but it was quite interesting that everybody

01:02:40.969 --> 01:02:43.309
we spoke to that weren't there didn't sort of

01:02:43.309 --> 01:02:44.969
tell us it was all full of ghosts and stuff it

01:02:44.969 --> 01:02:47.469
was all sort of very it all seemed very gentle

01:02:47.469 --> 01:02:49.949
I like that I honestly I think that's a way to

01:02:49.949 --> 01:02:51.969
handle these kinds of things I think Leaning

01:02:51.969 --> 01:02:53.809
too heavily into the ghost stuff feels crass

01:02:53.809 --> 01:02:56.110
because, as you and I both know, you can't force

01:02:56.110 --> 01:02:58.369
it. And then the opposite, you've got Craig Draw

01:02:58.369 --> 01:03:00.309
Castle in Victoria where they just are like,

01:03:00.369 --> 01:03:02.289
no, this is not a real thing here, even though

01:03:02.289 --> 01:03:05.090
I've fucking felt spirits there. Yes, like the

01:03:05.090 --> 01:03:08.590
lady in our local Tudor hamlet. When I said,

01:03:08.670 --> 01:03:10.650
oh, what do you know about the white lady? She

01:03:10.650 --> 01:03:13.769
says, oh, not that nonsense. Yeah. Again, going

01:03:13.769 --> 01:03:16.090
back to Ruth's book, the number of people who

01:03:16.090 --> 01:03:18.090
take the time to write it and say, well, I've

01:03:18.090 --> 01:03:20.110
lived here 30 years and I've never had an experience.

01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:23.579
Who fucking cares? Precisely. Nobody's keeping

01:03:23.579 --> 01:03:29.179
count. Calm down. Haunt 6, Turnquist. On Delancey

01:03:29.179 --> 01:03:31.980
Road, just off Route 40 at the Delaware -Maryland

01:03:31.980 --> 01:03:35.380
line, is a neighbourhood called Turnquist. In

01:03:35.380 --> 01:03:38.800
1963, a plane with 81 passengers was flying over

01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:41.099
the Maryland -Delaware border when lightning

01:03:41.099 --> 01:03:44.139
struck the wing and ignited the plane. The plane

01:03:44.139 --> 01:03:47.769
crashed, and the 81 people all died. and their

01:03:47.769 --> 01:03:50.150
bodies were scattered all over a field on Delancey

01:03:50.150 --> 01:03:53.630
Road. Turnquist was built on that field, and

01:03:53.630 --> 01:03:55.949
residents report many strange happenings, noises

01:03:55.949 --> 01:03:59.110
and sightings. All that remains of the ground

01:03:59.110 --> 01:04:01.510
where those bodies fell is a remembrance plaque,

01:04:01.690 --> 01:04:04.349
right next to the sign for the neighbourhood.

01:04:05.150 --> 01:04:07.309
Town planners in Delaware don't seem to give

01:04:07.309 --> 01:04:10.050
a shit, do they? I was thinking someone's cousin

01:04:10.050 --> 01:04:13.610
owns a plaque -making business. Lots of people

01:04:13.610 --> 01:04:16.230
died here. Let's build something. We'll honor

01:04:16.230 --> 01:04:18.050
their memory with this Curves Fitness Center

01:04:18.050 --> 01:04:25.409
and a Jamba Juice. Cult House Road Back in high

01:04:25.409 --> 01:04:27.250
school, we used to go out to the valley and mess

01:04:27.250 --> 01:04:30.150
around Cult House Road, like I'm sure every Delawarean

01:04:30.150 --> 01:04:32.909
has. We'd meet at Wendy's, what is now the new

01:04:32.909 --> 01:04:35.909
Starbucks, on 202 and pile into one or two cars

01:04:35.909 --> 01:04:38.530
and head out for a ride. Most of the time, it

01:04:38.530 --> 01:04:40.170
was just a summer drive with the windows down.

01:04:40.690 --> 01:04:42.650
One time, we were stopped by cops because they

01:04:42.650 --> 01:04:44.329
were filming that M. Night Shyamalan movie, The

01:04:44.329 --> 01:04:46.659
Village, but... Nothing else ever really happened.

01:04:47.619 --> 01:04:49.480
One night, one of our older friends was eager

01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:51.900
to pass down some knowledge to us. He knew of

01:04:51.900 --> 01:04:53.579
a few places where people used to go out and

01:04:53.579 --> 01:04:56.519
have secret bonfires. We were feeling like veterans

01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:58.260
of the valley rides at this point, so we thought

01:04:58.260 --> 01:04:59.619
we'd try to find where these secret gatherings

01:04:59.619 --> 01:05:02.739
were. We drove out to the valley in two cars,

01:05:02.980 --> 01:05:05.079
found a little pull -off to park near Coldhouse

01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:08.000
Road, and began walking into the woods. There

01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.199
was about seven of us, so at first we felt safe

01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:13.019
in numbers, but that feeling didn't last long.

01:05:14.139 --> 01:05:16.460
The further into the woods we went, the quieter

01:05:16.460 --> 01:05:19.099
it got. We talked less and less and the sounds

01:05:19.099 --> 01:05:21.539
of the road faded until the only sound we heard

01:05:21.539 --> 01:05:24.539
was our footsteps through the thick brush. It

01:05:24.539 --> 01:05:27.159
started to feel a little off and the hairs on

01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:29.760
the back of my neck were standing up. No one

01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.420
wanted to be the one to say they were creeped

01:05:31.420 --> 01:05:35.320
out, but all of us felt it. It was a strange

01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:38.880
feeling, like we were being watched. It didn't

01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.239
feel right. Someone or something was aware we

01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:43.699
were there and shouldn't be. Then we heard a

01:05:43.699 --> 01:05:46.539
loud and abrupt scream in the direction we were

01:05:46.539 --> 01:05:49.820
heading. Not close, but too close for comfort.

01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:53.619
We all stopped dead in our tracks. And then we

01:05:53.619 --> 01:05:56.940
heard it. And then again we heard it. And again.

01:05:57.619 --> 01:05:59.820
It was short and high -pitched and sounded like

01:05:59.820 --> 01:06:02.500
it was getting closer. We stood there panicking

01:06:02.500 --> 01:06:04.219
because we didn't want to end up running into

01:06:04.219 --> 01:06:06.679
the darkness and getting lost. But then we heard

01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.099
a crash coming from above us. something falling

01:06:09.099 --> 01:06:11.519
from the treetops, breaking branches on its way

01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:14.139
down, heavy enough to make a thud when it hit

01:06:14.139 --> 01:06:18.239
the ground. We took off. Lucky enough, we made

01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:20.360
it back to the cars, getting into the same ones

01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:23.199
we arrived in. We immediately got back on the

01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:25.840
road, some of us laughing, some of us scared

01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:28.840
silent. At the time, we didn't know what it was,

01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:30.880
but now that I'm older, I know that the noise

01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.219
was a fox. If you've never heard one's bark,

01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.280
even if you have, it's horrifying and loud, albeit

01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:39.099
harmless. But when you're surrounded by darkness

01:06:39.099 --> 01:06:42.199
in the woods, it has a different effect. I don't

01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.099
know what fell through the trees, but I'm going

01:06:44.099 --> 01:06:45.539
to guess it was either one of the group members

01:06:45.539 --> 01:06:48.139
throwing something heavy, or a larger dead branch

01:06:48.139 --> 01:06:51.260
that broke off. I never tried to define it more

01:06:51.260 --> 01:06:55.079
than that. But the night didn't end there. We

01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:57.400
started to head back towards 202. We were going

01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.219
to meet at Golden Castle Diner, as we usually

01:06:59.219 --> 01:07:01.940
did after a valley ride. We were starting to

01:07:01.940 --> 01:07:03.699
calm down now that we had a better feel for our

01:07:03.699 --> 01:07:05.940
surroundings, but we were still in a remote enough

01:07:05.940 --> 01:07:07.679
area that there weren't any other cars around

01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.380
than us. The roads were winding and there were

01:07:10.380 --> 01:07:14.119
no lights. I was in the lead car. Around one

01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:15.659
of the bends in the road, our friends in the

01:07:15.659 --> 01:07:17.480
car behind us started to come up on us quick,

01:07:17.659 --> 01:07:20.000
flashing their high beams and honking their horn

01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.940
at us. We were finally getting to the point where

01:07:22.940 --> 01:07:24.500
we could all laugh about what just happened,

01:07:24.659 --> 01:07:26.460
and we could see our friends in the car behind

01:07:26.460 --> 01:07:29.300
us felt the same. Then they started to come up

01:07:29.300 --> 01:07:31.099
on the side of us, on the opposite side of the

01:07:31.099 --> 01:07:34.079
road. The roads were still winding, so this was

01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:37.800
not a smart idea. After riding our ass and pulling

01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:39.860
the stunt, we decided to call them, just as we

01:07:39.860 --> 01:07:41.300
were getting back out to one of the main valley

01:07:41.300 --> 01:07:44.360
roads. What the hell are you doing, man? Quit

01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.780
driving like an asshole, someone said. The response

01:07:47.780 --> 01:07:50.539
was scarier than the woods. What are you talking

01:07:50.539 --> 01:07:53.679
about? We're about to be at Golden Castle. We

01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.480
went silent again. In the chaos that happened

01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:58.219
in the woods, we didn't realize we got to our

01:07:58.219 --> 01:08:01.719
car last, and they had already taken off. The

01:08:01.719 --> 01:08:03.659
flashing headlights behind us turned off once

01:08:03.659 --> 01:08:05.619
we got back out to the main road as if to usher

01:08:05.619 --> 01:08:08.739
us away. Whoever it was wanted us out of their

01:08:08.739 --> 01:08:12.340
territory, and we were happy to oblige. That

01:08:12.340 --> 01:08:14.599
really put an end to our valley rides for a while.

01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.000
Let me say I do not recommend looking for anything

01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:20.119
in the valley. It was stupid and dangerous of

01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:22.800
us to do that. There are strange people doing

01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:24.880
stranger things out there, and they do not want

01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.319
you around. I've heard of a few people being

01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.000
shot at for trespassing. We were lucky no one

01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.020
got hurt. And I will say, fucking around in the

01:08:33.020 --> 01:08:35.020
woods like that, you are more likely to end up

01:08:35.020 --> 01:08:38.760
on a meth lab than you are a cult house. Yeah,

01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:41.119
yeah. Well, there's many stories, especially

01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:46.119
in Oregon and Washington, of unsuspecting hikers

01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:49.539
and travelers wandering into an illegal growing

01:08:49.539 --> 01:08:53.390
area. disappearing, aren't they? I think I told

01:08:53.390 --> 01:08:55.409
that story years ago. I was drinking in the bowling

01:08:55.409 --> 01:08:58.170
alley in Revelstoke and I got talking to this

01:08:58.170 --> 01:08:59.869
guy who was a friend of a friend and he was telling

01:08:59.869 --> 01:09:02.850
me the story that one time he had been asked

01:09:02.850 --> 01:09:05.789
to help out at a black market grow during trim

01:09:05.789 --> 01:09:07.909
season. They basically just, they needed guys

01:09:07.909 --> 01:09:10.729
and someone, the other guy who he was supposed

01:09:10.729 --> 01:09:13.350
to cover for, he decided he wasn't coming to

01:09:13.350 --> 01:09:14.729
work so they needed someone. His buddy said,

01:09:14.869 --> 01:09:16.810
will you help us? And he said, yeah, no problem.

01:09:17.130 --> 01:09:20.609
But he was out there, he was working. And all

01:09:20.609 --> 01:09:23.350
of a sudden he heard this guy behind him say,

01:09:23.449 --> 01:09:26.649
don't move. Turn around slowly. So he turned

01:09:26.649 --> 01:09:29.130
around. This guy was pointing a pump action shotgun

01:09:29.130 --> 01:09:32.590
at his face. He was one of the managers at this

01:09:32.590 --> 01:09:33.949
place. He had not been informed they were going

01:09:33.949 --> 01:09:36.609
to have another guy on staff. So he thought he

01:09:36.609 --> 01:09:38.850
was there right in the place. And he said, man,

01:09:39.010 --> 01:09:42.109
you don't know fear until you're staring down

01:09:42.109 --> 01:09:43.810
the barrel of a shotgun. He said, your whole

01:09:43.810 --> 01:09:46.890
world shrinks down to that barrel. Yeah, it does.

01:09:51.050 --> 01:09:54.729
As a survivor of Shotgun Frank. I can attest

01:09:54.729 --> 01:09:57.670
to that, yes. Especially if it's a double -barreled,

01:09:57.670 --> 01:10:00.210
sewn -off shotgun. That would do it. I mean,

01:10:00.210 --> 01:10:02.390
I guess getting shot by one is as bad as getting

01:10:02.390 --> 01:10:06.729
shot by two, but the fear of it would be substantial.

01:10:07.270 --> 01:10:10.010
Character building, I feel. You know, I've fired

01:10:10.010 --> 01:10:12.149
shotguns, and I'd rather stay on that side of

01:10:12.149 --> 01:10:14.369
them, if all things are equal. Yeah, I don't

01:10:14.369 --> 01:10:17.569
fancy being shot by anything, really. That's

01:10:17.569 --> 01:10:21.409
why I always get salty about people who are irresponsible

01:10:21.409 --> 01:10:24.550
with guns. Because some of these gun dipshits,

01:10:24.670 --> 01:10:27.689
it's a fetishization thing. They're not responsible

01:10:27.689 --> 01:10:32.210
with them. And again, those are not fuck -around

01:10:32.210 --> 01:10:36.090
machines. It will end very badly if you do. Yeah.

01:10:36.449 --> 01:10:39.069
All right, speaking of respect, let's pay respect

01:10:39.069 --> 01:10:42.810
to some more haunted spots in Delaware. Number

01:10:42.810 --> 01:10:47.060
seven, the Ticking Tomb. In the mid -1700s, Charles

01:10:47.060 --> 01:10:49.539
Mason and Jeremiah Dixon were staying in Delaware

01:10:49.539 --> 01:10:52.399
while they worked on their famous line. Mason

01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:54.619
was also working on another project, a chronometer,

01:10:54.779 --> 01:10:57.699
basically the original version of a watch. He'd

01:10:57.699 --> 01:10:59.560
perfected his invention and wanted to leave to

01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:01.180
go back to England and collect enough money to

01:11:01.180 --> 01:11:03.880
be rich for the rest of his life. But he'd left

01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:05.979
the chronometer in a tent that he and Dixon had

01:11:05.979 --> 01:11:08.279
set up and went to get some fresh fish from the

01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:11.060
fish market. While he was gone, a fatty little

01:11:11.060 --> 01:11:13.319
kid crawled... How the fuck did I know he was

01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:18.119
fat? That seems very, very specific. I feel very

01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:20.840
called out by this, is what I think. A fatty

01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:22.779
little kid crawled into his tent and ate everything

01:11:22.779 --> 01:11:25.060
he could get his grubby little paws on. Jesus

01:11:25.060 --> 01:11:27.479
Christ. A fat kid pissed this person off at some

01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.739
point. I think there's a lot of sort of trauma

01:11:30.739 --> 01:11:35.420
here in this story. A lot of plaques and a lot

01:11:35.420 --> 01:11:37.859
of trauma. They probably built a plaque there.

01:11:38.350 --> 01:11:43.590
Fuck it. Fuck it, 810. Well, we're not done yet,

01:11:43.609 --> 01:11:46.329
so we could find out that's the case. But according

01:11:46.329 --> 01:11:49.449
to this, Chunk also ate the chronometer. When

01:11:49.449 --> 01:11:51.189
Mason realized what happened, he tried to get

01:11:51.189 --> 01:11:53.310
the chronometer out, but it was too late. The

01:11:53.310 --> 01:11:56.430
chronometer was... I'm certainly... The author

01:11:56.430 --> 01:11:57.550
was just like, no one's going to keep reading

01:11:57.550 --> 01:11:58.869
this far down. I'm just going to say whatever

01:11:58.869 --> 01:12:01.569
bullshit I want. Mason raised a toast that the

01:12:01.569 --> 01:12:03.470
fatty keep the chronometer with him until the

01:12:03.470 --> 01:12:08.239
end of time. Jesus Christ! This is 2006? The

01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:10.100
kid grew up to be a clockmaker. Fuck off, he

01:12:10.100 --> 01:12:14.140
did. He could shit clocks. Need a new clock?

01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:16.960
There you are. Look, there's all the bits of

01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:19.420
that. That's what I do is I eat the parts and

01:12:19.420 --> 01:12:22.960
then I shit out a clock. He was buried in the

01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:26.199
graveyard at the London Tract Church in Landenburg.

01:12:26.380 --> 01:12:28.539
His grave is a flat marker. We have yet another

01:12:28.539 --> 01:12:32.039
plaque. next to a crumbling heart tombstone.

01:12:32.180 --> 01:12:33.960
If you lay on the ground and put your head to

01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:36.720
his tombstone, you can still hear the ticking

01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:40.579
of Mason's chronometer. Jesus Christ. What a

01:12:40.579 --> 01:12:42.840
terrible episode this is. The stories are just

01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:45.640
garbage. This is a garbage state full of garbage

01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:49.000
ghost stories. Holy shit. Fucking Captain Hook.

01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.520
I invented the clock, but then a kid ate it.

01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:55.380
Honest. A fat kid, no less. Have I mentioned

01:12:55.380 --> 01:12:57.699
he's fat? The fatty, fat little bastard? I invented

01:12:57.699 --> 01:13:03.310
the watch. and a child edit that apparently didn't

01:13:03.310 --> 01:13:07.609
shit. What goes in comes out, because as far

01:13:07.609 --> 01:13:10.829
as I'm aware, the body can't digest metal of

01:13:10.829 --> 01:13:13.689
that magnitude. Was it you who introduced me

01:13:13.689 --> 01:13:17.590
to the movie Tiptoes? No. Have we talked about

01:13:17.590 --> 01:13:18.550
the movie Tiptoes? We have talked about Tiptoes.

01:13:18.590 --> 01:13:22.029
I saw the trailer, and I was like, oh my fucking

01:13:22.029 --> 01:13:25.489
God. Yeah, so folks, Tiptoes is a movie where

01:13:25.489 --> 01:13:28.890
Gary Oldman plays a little person, and it's pretty

01:13:28.890 --> 01:13:32.039
bad. It's very, very bad. But the people who

01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:36.180
wrote that movie know nothing about any of that

01:13:36.180 --> 01:13:38.359
world. They very clearly, they did zero research

01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:41.899
about any of the causes of dwarfism or what life

01:13:41.899 --> 01:13:44.720
is like, what it's like to live a life with that

01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:46.619
particular medical, nothing, absolutely nothing.

01:13:46.739 --> 01:13:48.399
They're just like Gary Oldman, have him walk

01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:50.039
around on his knees with shoes stapled to his

01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:52.380
jeans. We're done. Let's just shoot this fucking

01:13:52.380 --> 01:13:55.380
thing and move on. And I feel like whoever wrote

01:13:55.380 --> 01:13:58.500
this newspaper knows nothing about children.

01:13:59.260 --> 01:14:01.159
Or the obese. And they're just like, you know,

01:14:01.180 --> 01:14:03.239
I bet they don't shit. I bet that's why they're

01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:05.579
so fat. They just don't shit. You know, again,

01:14:05.659 --> 01:14:07.680
like I cut this guy off in traffic one day and

01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:09.359
he's like, fuck him. And he just wrote a whole

01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:11.619
newspaper article about how mad he was at me.

01:14:11.659 --> 01:14:13.899
But through the form of like a ghost story. I

01:14:13.899 --> 01:14:18.979
suspect that somebody at this newspaper got hold

01:14:18.979 --> 01:14:22.800
of a copy of old ghost stories and just thought,

01:14:22.899 --> 01:14:25.739
fuck proofreading it. We'll just copy and paste

01:14:25.739 --> 01:14:29.310
it all. Because I'm sure it'll be fine. Look,

01:14:29.369 --> 01:14:32.409
this book's from 1936. I mean, how offensive

01:14:32.409 --> 01:14:35.130
can it be? We did a find and replace for the

01:14:35.130 --> 01:14:39.510
N -word. What else do we got to do here? Holy

01:14:39.510 --> 01:14:44.609
shit. Well, we have more of these, Sterling.

01:14:44.689 --> 01:14:47.890
We have got to get up to the fucking 13, so strap

01:14:47.890 --> 01:14:49.869
in, folks. I'm sure there's some latent racism

01:14:49.869 --> 01:14:52.390
hidden in another one of these stories. I think

01:14:52.390 --> 01:14:54.069
it's very generous of you to assume it's kidding.

01:14:55.369 --> 01:14:57.130
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:01.619
Let's find out, shall we? In story number eight,

01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:05.600
dead presidents. Ever feel the hairs stand up

01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:07.159
on the back of your neck while you're sitting

01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:10.060
at the bar of dead presidents? Don't blame the

01:15:10.060 --> 01:15:13.180
beer. Blame a customer who frequented the tavern

01:15:13.180 --> 01:15:16.520
in the 1950s. He was a prankster, always playing

01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:18.800
jokes on the staff and other tavern regulars.

01:15:22.409 --> 01:15:24.909
The poor prankster didn't get the last laugh,

01:15:24.909 --> 01:15:26.869
however. I know, I know, I just read it myself.

01:15:27.829 --> 01:15:30.770
He slipped in a puddle of urine whilst in the

01:15:30.770 --> 01:15:34.390
men's room in the late 60s and died. But he liked

01:15:34.390 --> 01:15:36.590
the place so much he decided to stick around

01:15:36.590 --> 01:15:41.729
as a ghost. Tale all this time there. We've all

01:15:41.729 --> 01:15:44.310
died slipping in a puddle of urine in the toilet.

01:15:44.689 --> 01:15:47.750
I mean, slipping over, as far as I'm aware, doesn't

01:15:47.750 --> 01:15:51.069
kill you. There seems to be some pertinent information

01:15:51.069 --> 01:15:54.250
missing from that story. Yeah, like there were

01:15:54.250 --> 01:15:56.350
six inches of urine on the floor and he just

01:15:56.350 --> 01:15:58.970
slowly drowned in it. That's all I can figure.

01:16:00.189 --> 01:16:02.649
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've heard of dry drowning?

01:16:04.630 --> 01:16:08.810
Don't go to Delaware. Delaware, drowning in piss.

01:16:08.890 --> 01:16:10.489
We call it the pissy state. This is the dumbest

01:16:10.489 --> 01:16:12.970
show we've ever done. Drowning in piss is my

01:16:12.970 --> 01:16:19.960
favorite metal band. Yes. There's a lot missing

01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:23.399
from some of these stories, like facts, evidence,

01:16:23.500 --> 01:16:26.520
and reality. I just love, too, like some guy,

01:16:26.579 --> 01:16:30.140
some prankster, name him. If there is some legend

01:16:30.140 --> 01:16:33.119
out there who used to tickle people's neck, I'd

01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:34.739
love to see you do that shit in a bar and get

01:16:34.739 --> 01:16:36.859
away with it. Titchy Tony. Come out live. Yeah,

01:16:36.859 --> 01:16:38.699
Titchy Tony, who drowned in piss. Yeah, he didn't

01:16:38.699 --> 01:16:41.079
slip in the toilet. Big Malk didn't like him

01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.220
tickling his watch neck and rammed him through

01:16:43.220 --> 01:16:47.000
the mirror. And then said, oh, no. Tickly Tony

01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.539
slipped in some piss again and he's dead. He

01:16:50.539 --> 01:16:53.880
died of natural causes. He was shot six times.

01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.920
It's suicide. To the back of the head. This week

01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.880
on Unsolved Mysteries. We're going to take another

01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:05.159
ad break. After I apologize for this terrible

01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:15.909
fucking show. Good Lord. Green Man. The setting

01:17:15.909 --> 01:17:18.550
is my dad's old house that is debatably haunted.

01:17:19.090 --> 01:17:22.270
It's located in a small one stoplight town in

01:17:22.270 --> 01:17:25.890
rural Delaware. It was built in the early 1900s

01:17:25.890 --> 01:17:28.529
and surely has a long history that I'm not totally

01:17:28.529 --> 01:17:31.609
versed on. My dad moved here to live and run

01:17:31.609 --> 01:17:33.529
his business after splitting with my mum when

01:17:33.529 --> 01:17:37.170
I was nine. Without sounding too stereotypical,

01:17:37.250 --> 01:17:40.270
his house just had a weird vibe to it. So much

01:17:40.270 --> 01:17:42.270
so that my dad's girlfriend, who often stayed

01:17:42.270 --> 01:17:44.449
with him, would get a hotel room when he was

01:17:44.449 --> 01:17:47.670
out of town on work travelling duty. She claims

01:17:47.670 --> 01:17:49.710
you would hear the typical haunted noises like

01:17:49.710 --> 01:17:53.689
footsteps and doors closing on their own. Aside

01:17:53.689 --> 01:17:56.689
from paranormal activity, it was factually documented

01:17:56.689 --> 01:17:58.750
that there were two degenerate kids who lived

01:17:58.750 --> 01:18:00.789
with their parents there in the past who were

01:18:00.789 --> 01:18:02.829
known for being troublemakers and often getting

01:18:02.829 --> 01:18:06.609
arrested. Before I try and describe the main

01:18:06.609 --> 01:18:08.829
event of this story, it's worth noting at the

01:18:08.829 --> 01:18:10.930
time that my dad was a full -blown alcoholic

01:18:10.930 --> 01:18:14.409
trying to recover. He would tell of agonising

01:18:14.409 --> 01:18:17.189
nights trying to quit drinking cold turkey, where

01:18:17.189 --> 01:18:19.229
he would wake up in a delirious sweat, hearing

01:18:19.229 --> 01:18:22.029
what seemed to be a full -blown party happening

01:18:22.029 --> 01:18:25.010
in the main room downstairs, with clinking glasses

01:18:25.010 --> 01:18:27.909
and shouting voices. But when he would open his

01:18:27.909 --> 01:18:33.010
door, it would all cease. He would also be visited

01:18:33.010 --> 01:18:35.329
by living and non -living friends of his, who

01:18:35.329 --> 01:18:38.130
all aimed to help him get better. He'd become

01:18:38.130 --> 01:18:41.010
fully sober and live another twenty -odd years

01:18:41.010 --> 01:18:45.239
alcohol -free. One night, I'm staying over at

01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:47.880
his house, and it's when I'm about nine and sleeping

01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:50.399
in his bed. He'd just moved in and didn't have

01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:53.300
my room set up yet. Nothing out of the ordinary

01:18:53.300 --> 01:18:55.800
so far this night, but I still get goosebumps

01:18:55.800 --> 01:19:00.159
at this point. We're dead asleep, it's probably

01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:03.220
around 2am, and I wake up for no apparent reason

01:19:03.220 --> 01:19:06.039
and look across the bed on my dad's side to see

01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:09.140
a small, translucent being sitting or standing

01:19:09.140 --> 01:19:13.689
beside, staring at me. I fear sounding off the

01:19:13.689 --> 01:19:16.470
wagon here, but it looked like a small alien

01:19:16.470 --> 01:19:19.430
-like being, except it was see -through and sort

01:19:19.430 --> 01:19:22.930
of emanating a greenish light. It looked away

01:19:22.930 --> 01:19:25.590
from me and got back to what it appeared to be

01:19:25.590 --> 01:19:28.649
working away on a computer of sorts, which I

01:19:28.649 --> 01:19:30.609
couldn't really see because it seemed to be below

01:19:30.609 --> 01:19:33.529
the mattress line. I didn't know what to think,

01:19:33.550 --> 01:19:36.409
so I rolled over. I processed what I thought

01:19:36.409 --> 01:19:39.250
I saw, rationalised it must have been a dream,

01:19:39.449 --> 01:19:42.500
rubbed my eyes and looked over again. And it

01:19:42.500 --> 01:19:45.000
was still there looking at their computer screen.

01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.699
At this point, I realised I was fully awake and

01:19:48.699 --> 01:19:51.840
totally unsure of what I was seeing. So I closed

01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:54.439
my eyes and tried to go to sleep as fast as possible.

01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:57.380
My dad never stirred and was passed out the entire

01:19:57.380 --> 01:20:01.520
time. And the being made no noise. The alien

01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:08.829
just came by to use the computer. All right.

01:20:08.850 --> 01:20:11.449
Well, let's bring up more Delaware stories, because

01:20:11.449 --> 01:20:14.029
I don't know. Good for him. I don't think these

01:20:14.029 --> 01:20:15.489
are going to be better than the ones we're reading.

01:20:15.770 --> 01:20:20.050
But this one is number nine, Deer Park Tavern.

01:20:20.989 --> 01:20:25.729
Back in the days... Oh, God. Slaves were traded

01:20:25.729 --> 01:20:27.810
on the porch of the tavern, and some spirits

01:20:27.810 --> 01:20:30.210
may still linger there. Before it was the Deer

01:20:30.210 --> 01:20:32.029
Park, it was the St. Patrick's Inn, which burned

01:20:32.029 --> 01:20:35.029
down. Edgar Allan Poe visited the inn on December

01:20:35.029 --> 01:20:37.920
23rd, 1843. He was trying to get out of his carriage

01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:39.500
and get up to the steps to the inn when he got

01:20:39.500 --> 01:20:42.319
stuck in the mud and fell. Not just one get up

01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:44.479
and brush himself off, Poe put a curse on this

01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:48.520
building. Oh, Jesus. There it is. There it is.

01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:51.020
We found it. The lowest point in this entire

01:20:51.020 --> 01:20:53.420
article. Because apparently Edgar Allan Poe was

01:20:53.420 --> 01:20:57.020
a fucking warlock. Anyway, so yeah, Edgar Allan

01:20:57.020 --> 01:21:00.020
Poe put a curse. The curse lingers and people

01:21:00.020 --> 01:21:01.359
who've had a little too much to drink have been

01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:02.859
known to blame their stumbles up and down the

01:21:02.859 --> 01:21:05.699
stairs on the curse. Boy, they were really struggling

01:21:05.699 --> 01:21:08.520
to get to 13 for this fucking thing. Haunted

01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:12.220
10. Ghosts at UD. There are several resident

01:21:12.220 --> 01:21:15.279
ghosts at the University of Delaware. They must

01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:17.699
have gotten ghost tenure. Struggling already

01:21:17.699 --> 01:21:20.960
here. A man named Edward Roach was murdered on

01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:23.680
the steps of the Old College. Old College is

01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:25.680
the building on Main Street, right across from

01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.239
South College Avenue. People have seen his ghost

01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:31.300
on the steps there and in the lobby. In Mitchell

01:21:31.300 --> 01:21:35.439
Hall, a ghost named Elmo rose. Mitchell Hall

01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:38.140
has an upper level and a tall dome. The story

01:21:38.140 --> 01:21:40.399
is that Elmo fell from the dome to his death

01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:43.560
on the floor of Mitchell Hall. Residents of Warner

01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:46.060
Hall, a girl's dorm, report hearing banging during

01:21:46.060 --> 01:21:48.460
the night. This could go one of two ways here.

01:21:48.819 --> 01:21:50.619
There was a girl who lived there who committed

01:21:50.619 --> 01:21:53.729
suicide and her ghost stayed behind. Now the

01:21:53.729 --> 01:21:56.029
ghost spends the night banging against a false

01:21:56.029 --> 01:22:04.670
wall somewhere in the dorm. Yeah, that noise,

01:22:04.850 --> 01:22:07.970
it's a ghost banging. There's nobody in Brenda's

01:22:07.970 --> 01:22:12.369
room. It's the ghost. Oh man, it's just like,

01:22:12.430 --> 01:22:15.590
if AI had been a thing in 2006, I would say this

01:22:15.590 --> 01:22:18.569
person just said to AI, generate the worst possible

01:22:18.569 --> 01:22:21.270
article about ghosts you can. Here's the thing

01:22:21.270 --> 01:22:22.970
with things like this. This is what always annoys

01:22:22.970 --> 01:22:25.189
me. This is when you always find badly written

01:22:25.189 --> 01:22:28.449
ghost stories. I mean, I bought a couple of books

01:22:28.449 --> 01:22:30.109
when I was up northeast the other day. One of

01:22:30.109 --> 01:22:32.210
them, apparently a man starved to death after

01:22:32.210 --> 01:22:34.109
four days. And I just thought, that's fucking

01:22:34.109 --> 01:22:38.789
bollocks, right? So, and I just went, bollocks.

01:22:38.909 --> 01:22:40.649
I shouted out loud, reading this book to myself,

01:22:40.710 --> 01:22:44.890
I went, bollocks. And Julie said, what's wrong?

01:22:45.189 --> 01:22:46.890
And I explained it to her. And she said, yes,

01:22:46.930 --> 01:22:49.189
that does sound a little unplausible. And I went,

01:22:49.250 --> 01:22:51.729
no, it's bollocks, Julie. Bollocks. That's what

01:22:51.729 --> 01:22:54.550
it is. Some say somebody committed suicide. Well,

01:22:54.569 --> 01:22:55.949
I'm sure they would have had a fucking record

01:22:55.949 --> 01:22:57.869
of it because they would have had to have taken

01:22:57.869 --> 01:23:00.109
her out of the building, told all her family.

01:23:00.289 --> 01:23:02.770
She had to probably go to hospital. There would

01:23:02.770 --> 01:23:05.949
be a record. You can't say in 2006, you know,

01:23:05.970 --> 01:23:07.689
this is not like we're reading something from

01:23:07.689 --> 01:23:11.430
1938 where there's no idea of resource or records,

01:23:11.670 --> 01:23:14.569
right? You can't just say, oh, such and such

01:23:14.569 --> 01:23:17.510
happened and don't say any names, dates or anything.

01:23:17.609 --> 01:23:21.789
It's just... intangible bollocks. I mean, who's

01:23:21.789 --> 01:23:24.250
Elmo? Somebody called Elmo fell off a fucking

01:23:24.250 --> 01:23:25.569
roof. Everybody would know about that because

01:23:25.569 --> 01:23:27.550
surely everybody would go, oh, like Elmo off

01:23:27.550 --> 01:23:29.390
Sesame Street, oh, with people tickling him.

01:23:30.109 --> 01:23:32.909
And everybody would know. They'd know who fucking

01:23:32.909 --> 01:23:34.850
Elmo was. They wouldn't think, oh, yeah, that

01:23:34.850 --> 01:23:37.890
sounds right. Why is he on the dome? What's he

01:23:37.890 --> 01:23:40.770
doing up there? Stake in the ground. There aren't

01:23:40.770 --> 01:23:43.210
that many guys in this world named Elmo. When

01:23:43.210 --> 01:23:46.729
we lose one, we notice. Exactly. Exactly. It

01:23:46.729 --> 01:23:51.090
would be major news. Oh God. It reminds me of

01:23:51.090 --> 01:23:54.050
whenever I Google, uh, whatever, like I Google

01:23:54.050 --> 01:23:56.810
kind of famous historical hauntings and you just,

01:23:56.810 --> 01:23:59.529
you realize they're all using the same bullshit

01:23:59.529 --> 01:24:02.390
details and you just think, well, okay, so this,

01:24:02.449 --> 01:24:04.689
this is all lies because you're all repeating

01:24:04.689 --> 01:24:07.989
exactly the same facts to me. I was reading something

01:24:07.989 --> 01:24:09.890
about a haunted location and people keep calling

01:24:09.890 --> 01:24:12.050
because they say, oh, there was a lunatic asylum.

01:24:12.250 --> 01:24:14.409
That's what it was. There was a lunatic asylum

01:24:14.409 --> 01:24:16.850
and the doctor was experimenting on the patients.

01:24:17.369 --> 01:24:20.409
And this person said, no, this has never existed

01:24:20.409 --> 01:24:22.909
here whatsoever. I don't know where you people

01:24:22.909 --> 01:24:25.369
keep getting this. And it's the same quality

01:24:25.369 --> 01:24:28.170
of research. Yeah, absolutely. It's like all

01:24:28.170 --> 01:24:29.569
those people who are going about the Winchester

01:24:29.569 --> 01:24:33.430
house who basically say, oh yeah, all the ghosts

01:24:33.430 --> 01:24:37.329
came because of a husband inventing the Winchester

01:24:37.329 --> 01:24:38.989
rifle and it was all the ghosts of everybody

01:24:38.989 --> 01:24:41.449
that was killed by it. So why did she have a

01:24:41.449 --> 01:24:43.619
fucking shooting range in the house, boys? Yeah.

01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:47.300
And why are the houses of people like the Crump

01:24:47.300 --> 01:24:52.979
family not haunted to all hell? Yeah. I've noticed

01:24:52.979 --> 01:24:54.699
recently that people have started claiming the

01:24:54.699 --> 01:24:58.020
Valeska house, right? Which is one of the most

01:24:58.020 --> 01:25:02.180
heinous murder cases in 20th century America.

01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:06.140
I mean, numerous axe murders that were going

01:25:06.140 --> 01:25:08.060
on there, which I clearly think are very much

01:25:08.060 --> 01:25:11.979
linked, personally. You could just jump on a

01:25:11.979 --> 01:25:14.390
train going wherever. and murder people and they

01:25:14.390 --> 01:25:18.149
wouldn't have the first clue, would they? And

01:25:18.149 --> 01:25:22.569
so now certain, I'd say paranormal investigators,

01:25:22.609 --> 01:25:25.869
but essentially bullshit artists are claiming

01:25:25.869 --> 01:25:28.390
that it's demons that haunt the house, not the

01:25:28.390 --> 01:25:30.869
poor bastards that were murdered in their beds

01:25:30.869 --> 01:25:35.409
by some maniac. No, no, no, it has to be a demon.

01:25:35.489 --> 01:25:40.569
No, you don't need to elaborate that awful story.

01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:43.880
What happened there on that night is heinous

01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:47.220
enough without going down bullshit boulevard

01:25:47.220 --> 01:25:51.020
and bringing demons into it. Deal with the horror

01:25:51.020 --> 01:25:53.920
of the reality of what happened. That is all

01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:58.699
you need. You don't need anything else. Honestly,

01:25:58.819 --> 01:26:01.039
man, I think these people just have a, like a

01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:03.569
spitter. And they just hit it and they spin.

01:26:03.770 --> 01:26:06.649
And so it's like demons, skinwalkers, whatever

01:26:06.649 --> 01:26:08.590
the bullshit thing of the moment happens to be.

01:26:08.649 --> 01:26:10.630
They just, oh no, it was this. That's it. It

01:26:10.630 --> 01:26:12.909
was, uh, it was, uh, it was a rake this time.

01:26:13.430 --> 01:26:16.470
Boomed by an orb. Yep. Yep. Slenderman was here.

01:26:16.710 --> 01:26:20.390
It's just embarrassing. Yeah. I, I mean, when

01:26:20.390 --> 01:26:22.270
I was doing that research for the show I was

01:26:22.270 --> 01:26:25.430
on, you know, I, I guessed it on a podcast recently

01:26:25.430 --> 01:26:27.329
and I did some research and just looking at some

01:26:27.329 --> 01:26:29.949
of the YouTube stuff I found. It's just, again,

01:26:30.050 --> 01:26:31.670
part of it is I think people like being lied

01:26:31.670 --> 01:26:34.449
to. They like, they respond to this shit. So

01:26:34.449 --> 01:26:37.069
to a degree, I can't blame them. But at the same

01:26:37.069 --> 01:26:40.609
time, I can because it's got zero integrity and

01:26:40.609 --> 01:26:43.930
it's just sad. Yes, absolutely. It reminds me,

01:26:43.989 --> 01:26:46.930
a couple of years ago, somebody sent me a video

01:26:46.930 --> 01:26:50.470
of this UK paranormal investigator who I've never

01:26:50.470 --> 01:26:52.390
heard of. And watching this particular video,

01:26:52.489 --> 01:26:55.350
I never want to hear it again. And he claimed

01:26:55.350 --> 01:26:57.609
to have gone to this abandoned house where this

01:26:57.609 --> 01:27:00.850
guy had murdered his wife and three children

01:27:00.850 --> 01:27:04.710
in the Manchester area. Right. And so rather

01:27:04.710 --> 01:27:06.710
than carry on watching this, I thought, well,

01:27:06.750 --> 01:27:10.210
I know about horrible things. And that would

01:27:10.210 --> 01:27:15.470
be with the amount of crime documentaries and

01:27:15.470 --> 01:27:18.470
serial killer things I watch. I would have seen

01:27:18.470 --> 01:27:20.689
that case. I know I would have because stuff

01:27:20.689 --> 01:27:24.159
like that doesn't happen very often here. It

01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:27.079
does happen, but not that. That would be front

01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:30.720
page news all over the place. Nothing, absolutely

01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:35.359
nothing of anything happened in the area that

01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:37.920
he claimed it had. Couldn't find anything anywhere.

01:27:38.260 --> 01:27:43.100
And you just think, why would you just create

01:27:43.100 --> 01:27:46.380
bullshit to promote something? There's enough

01:27:46.380 --> 01:27:49.640
horrible things that go on without it. I mean,

01:27:49.699 --> 01:27:52.800
Julie's been watching a series recently. called

01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:54.920
evil lives here which is quite amusing because

01:27:54.920 --> 01:27:56.920
there's like 13 seasons of it i mean there's

01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:59.180
evil everywhere it would seem this particular

01:27:59.180 --> 01:28:02.579
series should basically be called i ignore red

01:28:02.579 --> 01:28:05.720
flags is what it should be called because there's

01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:08.960
like one woman going oh yeah well um when we

01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:10.859
first started dating he used to take me to strip

01:28:10.859 --> 01:28:12.920
bars and i just thought that was odd but that's

01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:14.979
just the way he was and so they were showing

01:28:14.979 --> 01:28:17.539
this clip of like this recreation and she sat

01:28:17.539 --> 01:28:19.079
next to him looking really disapproving while

01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:21.399
he's wanging money on stage at these strippers

01:28:22.370 --> 01:28:24.689
And I'm thinking, right, at what point do you

01:28:24.689 --> 01:28:29.350
think, hey, this is the man for me, right? We've

01:28:29.350 --> 01:28:31.289
got bits where I'm like hanging the kid's doll

01:28:31.289 --> 01:28:34.310
from the bed above her and waking her up going,

01:28:34.390 --> 01:28:36.670
look at your doll's dead. Your doll's dead. What

01:28:36.670 --> 01:28:39.109
the fuck? Every night, right, he goes out the

01:28:39.109 --> 01:28:42.130
house wearing a jet black coat with a gun. And

01:28:42.130 --> 01:28:43.649
he just says, oh, I'm off for a walk. And he

01:28:43.649 --> 01:28:45.789
goes for five hours and comes back. And she thinks,

01:28:45.890 --> 01:28:48.050
oh, well, it's just his thing. And I'm like,

01:28:48.149 --> 01:28:53.710
what's going on here, right? His mum won't allow

01:28:53.710 --> 01:28:56.010
him to come to the house when she's on her own,

01:28:56.069 --> 01:28:59.430
right? And she thinks he's a really good catch.

01:29:00.869 --> 01:29:03.050
He goes away for a weekend. Doesn't tell her.

01:29:03.090 --> 01:29:04.470
He just goes out Friday night, says, I'm just

01:29:04.470 --> 01:29:06.670
going for a drive. Turns up Sunday night looking

01:29:06.670 --> 01:29:09.729
exhausted. Where have you been? Oh, my car broke

01:29:09.729 --> 01:29:15.250
down. What? Hang on. What? My hands are sure

01:29:15.250 --> 01:29:17.130
tired from all this strangling. What? Here's

01:29:17.130 --> 01:29:19.989
the best one, right? The next door neighbour.

01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:22.300
The whole street gets locked down. The police

01:29:22.300 --> 01:29:23.659
have to turn up because the next door neighbour

01:29:23.659 --> 01:29:26.439
jumps through a bedroom window to escape a man

01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:30.020
wearing a baraclava, right? What's he got in

01:29:30.020 --> 01:29:33.739
his wardrobe in a special box? He's got a baraclava,

01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:37.220
right? So when she says to him, why have you

01:29:37.220 --> 01:29:39.779
got that in here? He goes, oh, well, it's when

01:29:39.779 --> 01:29:43.119
I'm cold. And she goes, oh, all right then. Right,

01:29:43.180 --> 01:29:46.140
hang on. Your next door neighbour, right, has

01:29:46.140 --> 01:29:48.340
just had to jump out the window, which he didn't

01:29:48.340 --> 01:29:50.739
mention. It was the daughter that told her. And

01:29:50.739 --> 01:29:52.939
he went, oh, yeah, yeah, she fell out the window.

01:29:53.100 --> 01:29:54.600
Well, she didn't, because everybody's saying

01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:56.239
she had to jump because somebody was in her house.

01:29:56.460 --> 01:29:58.380
You've got a band of clobber, which he'd been

01:29:58.380 --> 01:30:01.699
walking around in the house wearing before the

01:30:01.699 --> 01:30:04.539
attack happened. Eventually, after something

01:30:04.539 --> 01:30:07.140
else happened, she goes, I just wasn't sure anymore.

01:30:09.579 --> 01:30:13.539
Anymore? Back in hell, love. Meanwhile, BTK's

01:30:13.539 --> 01:30:18.359
wife is like, honey, come on. I ignore red flags.

01:30:19.340 --> 01:30:21.739
I live with, I'm a fucking idiot. They might

01:30:21.739 --> 01:30:24.300
as well call it, really. I found a sock full

01:30:24.300 --> 01:30:26.300
of women's driver's licenses in the bureau and

01:30:26.300 --> 01:30:28.439
there's a smell coming from the basement. What

01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:29.680
do you guys think I should do? The wedding's

01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:33.140
in an hour. That's typically something you would

01:30:33.140 --> 01:30:36.420
read on Reddit. Yeah, yeah, exactly. My husband

01:30:36.420 --> 01:30:39.100
-to -be has a room in his house that I'm not

01:30:39.100 --> 01:30:41.619
allowed in, but I've sneaked a look around the

01:30:41.619 --> 01:30:43.340
door when he opened it and it seems to be full

01:30:43.340 --> 01:30:46.079
of trinkets and jewelry. I often hear anguished

01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:49.890
cries and pleas for mercy. He watches some weird

01:30:49.890 --> 01:30:53.529
programs. He's got a giant picture of Ted Bundy

01:30:53.529 --> 01:30:56.810
above the fireplace. Should I be worried? He

01:30:56.810 --> 01:30:58.909
just likes to strip down and flex in front of

01:30:58.909 --> 01:31:04.609
a mirror. All right, folks. In the interim between

01:31:04.609 --> 01:31:06.630
stories, Paul and I made the executive decision

01:31:06.630 --> 01:31:09.010
that we're not going to bother with the last

01:31:09.010 --> 01:31:10.630
story, which is probably going to be equally

01:31:10.630 --> 01:31:12.449
as terrible as some of the ones we've read so

01:31:12.449 --> 01:31:18.140
far tonight. And so instead, we are going to

01:31:18.140 --> 01:31:22.479
just finish out this 13 most haunted locations

01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:25.880
around Delaware, this fabulous piece of journalism

01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:29.420
that the News Register has brought to us. And

01:31:29.420 --> 01:31:34.960
I will start us off with number 11, Old New Castle.

01:31:35.739 --> 01:31:39.100
Old New Castle is riddled with ghosts. There

01:31:39.100 --> 01:31:40.880
are the ghosts of people who were hung and burned

01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:42.359
at the stake in front of the courthouse lingering.

01:31:43.090 --> 01:31:46.109
The most popular and most seen ghost in Old Newcastle

01:31:46.109 --> 01:31:48.350
is a resident of the Amstel House, Bruce DeLeo,

01:31:48.470 --> 01:31:50.590
the director of the Newcastle Historical Society

01:31:50.590 --> 01:31:53.470
said, Many people tell stories of seeing a woman

01:31:53.470 --> 01:31:55.010
in blue in the windows of the house when there

01:31:55.010 --> 01:31:57.430
is no one there. The woman in blue has been seen

01:31:57.430 --> 01:32:00.770
for more than a century. In the 1940s, a caretaker

01:32:00.770 --> 01:32:02.189
who lived in the house was interviewed for a

01:32:02.189 --> 01:32:04.130
newspaper about the woman in blue, and seeing

01:32:04.130 --> 01:32:05.890
an apparition walking around the house with her.

01:32:06.430 --> 01:32:08.630
No one is positive who she is, but something

01:32:08.630 --> 01:32:10.449
must have happened to her there that was strong

01:32:10.449 --> 01:32:12.329
enough to bring her back to it. Jesus Christ.

01:32:12.409 --> 01:32:14.789
This is just, the guy's just given up like we

01:32:14.789 --> 01:32:17.310
have. There's something about Delaware that just

01:32:17.310 --> 01:32:20.630
does this to you. You're just like, fuck. Maybe

01:32:20.630 --> 01:32:22.609
he's on allergy medication too. He's like, I

01:32:22.609 --> 01:32:25.109
just, oh God, just make it end. I don't know,

01:32:25.149 --> 01:32:28.850
something. There was a newspaper somewhere. All

01:32:28.850 --> 01:32:32.180
right. One woman named Elizabeth gave birth to

01:32:32.180 --> 01:32:34.279
a child in the house. The child died after a

01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:36.060
few days, and Elizabeth died because of complications

01:32:36.060 --> 01:32:38.340
from the birth within a few weeks. Her husband

01:32:38.340 --> 01:32:42.420
has a mourning ring made and inscribed with the

01:32:42.420 --> 01:32:45.859
words, I mourn thy virtue lost to me. That ring

01:32:45.859 --> 01:32:48.199
is still on display in the house. Okay, we have

01:32:48.199 --> 01:32:51.279
one fact. We have an actual proven fact. Another

01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:53.140
was a woman named Anna Finney, who was engaged

01:32:53.140 --> 01:32:55.779
to a British officer killed in 1755 in the Battle

01:32:55.779 --> 01:32:57.779
of the Wilderness outside of Pittsburgh. She

01:32:57.779 --> 01:33:03.020
was devastated. She was devastated and so grief

01:33:03.020 --> 01:33:04.619
stricken that she took to her bed and refused

01:33:04.619 --> 01:33:07.239
to marry. Her father had other plans and married

01:33:07.239 --> 01:33:09.739
her off to her cousin, making her Anna Finney

01:33:09.739 --> 01:33:12.060
Finney. I don't think that's how that would work.

01:33:13.100 --> 01:33:15.300
I mean, don't get me wrong. I believe that someone's

01:33:15.300 --> 01:33:16.640
father back then would be like, well, whatever

01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:18.119
your property, we're going to marry you off to

01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:20.149
someone. Because, you know, it was a horror show.

01:33:20.470 --> 01:33:22.810
But I don't think if you marry someone who's

01:33:22.810 --> 01:33:24.670
got the same last name as you, you just pile

01:33:24.670 --> 01:33:26.470
it on. I'm not sure how that, I don't think that's

01:33:26.470 --> 01:33:29.890
how that works. You know, I think we're just,

01:33:29.949 --> 01:33:32.149
we're seeing this author like gradually just

01:33:32.149 --> 01:33:35.369
lose touch with their sanity. They're slowly

01:33:35.369 --> 01:33:37.909
going mad and they're just inventing more and

01:33:37.909 --> 01:33:39.970
more unlikely things in the hopes that you will

01:33:39.970 --> 01:33:41.550
stop reading so they don't have to finish the

01:33:41.550 --> 01:33:43.779
article. If you read it back to front, it's quite

01:33:43.779 --> 01:33:46.600
an uplifting story about a journalist who rediscovers

01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:55.060
his love for writing. I like that version better

01:33:55.060 --> 01:33:56.600
because otherwise we're just watching some guy

01:33:56.600 --> 01:33:59.359
climb into a bottle. Hey, why is Mike over there

01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:01.800
with two pencils in his eyes? Mike, are you okay?

01:34:04.300 --> 01:34:07.880
I'm just writing this fucking article about ghosts.

01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:11.220
A genie came and showed him the future of journalism.

01:34:11.260 --> 01:34:13.520
He's like, fuck it, man. I'm out. Go on, get

01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:18.560
back to Finny Finny. Yeah, yeah. That's it. That's

01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:22.899
it. That's it. Just Anna Finny Finny, Finn. And

01:34:22.899 --> 01:34:24.760
then there was another Elizabeth who lived there

01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:26.359
and watched as her husband and two of her three

01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:28.739
children died of TB in the house. After their

01:34:28.739 --> 01:34:30.279
death, she moved in with her husband's family

01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:32.579
and rented out the house. Maybe the woman in

01:34:32.579 --> 01:34:35.859
blue is one of them. Honestly, this author could

01:34:35.859 --> 01:34:38.500
basically just write who gives a fuck under every

01:34:38.500 --> 01:34:41.300
one of these things and the effect would be the

01:34:41.300 --> 01:34:44.619
same. Maybe it's real, maybe it's not. I'm just

01:34:44.619 --> 01:34:47.060
sitting here in my study polishing my shotgun

01:34:47.060 --> 01:34:50.279
waiting for God to finally stop being a coward

01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:53.239
and take me. I mean, yeah, because people dying

01:34:53.239 --> 01:34:57.260
of TB is really rare in those days. Never happened.

01:34:57.460 --> 01:35:00.819
No, no, never once. I'm going to read a story

01:35:00.819 --> 01:35:04.090
that's clearly been... written by Zach Baggins.

01:35:04.449 --> 01:35:08.109
Haunt 12, The Valley. Though the valley is mostly

01:35:08.109 --> 01:35:10.590
urban legend, it still has to be addressed here.

01:35:11.010 --> 01:35:13.449
There is a house off Cossard Road called the

01:35:13.449 --> 01:35:15.789
Demon House where ghosts peer through the windows.

01:35:16.149 --> 01:35:17.909
Straight away there's a bit of disconnect there.

01:35:18.130 --> 01:35:20.569
While you drive up to the Demon House, the trees

01:35:20.569 --> 01:35:22.789
look like they're moving and bending away from

01:35:22.789 --> 01:35:25.789
the house on whatever is in it. Legend has it

01:35:25.789 --> 01:35:29.229
if you get too close, black SUVs will chase you

01:35:29.229 --> 01:35:32.460
away. We don't want to get close enough to find

01:35:32.460 --> 01:35:36.279
out. Fucking hell. You know who's driving that

01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:38.659
black SUV? It's the poor guy that owns the house

01:35:38.659 --> 01:35:44.560
going, I wish these people had fuck off. Trees

01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:47.960
that bend. Whoa. Fuck me. Do they not get wind

01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:53.960
in Delaware? Paul, I just opened my eyes. Like,

01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:56.180
I just looked at the page and immediately I saw

01:35:56.180 --> 01:35:58.020
slave napper. I'm going to hate this so much.

01:36:00.730 --> 01:36:04.250
Haunt 13, Woodburn Mansion. There are ghosts,

01:36:04.529 --> 01:36:07.329
then there are our kind of ghosts. Ghosts that

01:36:07.329 --> 01:36:09.890
like to drink. This is the one true thing you've

01:36:09.890 --> 01:36:12.810
said this entire article. Woodburn Mansion in

01:36:12.810 --> 01:36:15.130
Dover is the governor's mansion, and also home

01:36:15.130 --> 01:36:18.390
to four ghosts. Our favorite ghost is also known

01:36:18.390 --> 01:36:21.130
as the Tiplink Ghost. The afterlife apparently

01:36:21.130 --> 01:36:24.130
could not quench his love of good wine. If you're

01:36:24.130 --> 01:36:25.789
in Woodburn and happen to leave some wine out

01:36:25.789 --> 01:36:27.489
overnight in a glass, when you wake up in the

01:36:27.489 --> 01:36:31.859
morning, it will be you. And the dog sleeps all

01:36:31.859 --> 01:36:38.819
day. Weird. There's no connection at all. Okay.

01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:41.060
A couple more paragraphs, then we get to do ghost

01:36:41.060 --> 01:36:43.880
parts and go home. One night, two residents sat

01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:45.899
at a table with wine in front of them and were

01:36:45.899 --> 01:36:47.600
determined to stay up all night to see the ghost

01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:50.180
come and drink their wine. They fell asleep in

01:36:50.180 --> 01:36:51.819
their chairs, but when they woke up, the wine

01:36:51.819 --> 01:36:55.359
was gone. This ghost takes down an entire decanters

01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:56.979
of wine and may have made a trip down to the

01:36:56.979 --> 01:36:59.439
wine cellar. Our question for the Tipling ghost

01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:01.640
is, are there hangovers in the realm where you

01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:04.920
live? Another ghost is a man dressed in turn

01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:07.380
-of -the -century garb, breeches, puffy shirt,

01:37:07.460 --> 01:37:10.000
that kind of stuff. That kind of stuff. I guess

01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:11.399
this guy's just fully given up at this point.

01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:16.140
Nobody was wearing puffy shirts at the end of

01:37:16.140 --> 01:37:20.479
the 19th century. See you later. He may as well

01:37:20.479 --> 01:37:23.000
just put in a stage direction, dismissive hand

01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:26.489
wave. You know. He's joined by a little girl

01:37:26.489 --> 01:37:28.489
who appears to float across the reflecting pond.

01:37:29.170 --> 01:37:31.489
The fourth ghost at Woodburn is not as good -spirited

01:37:31.489 --> 01:37:33.569
as the first three, probably because he never

01:37:33.569 --> 01:37:36.649
gets any of the wine. He is the ghost of a slave

01:37:36.649 --> 01:37:39.210
-napper. Yep, I hate this already. He used to

01:37:39.210 --> 01:37:41.229
kidnap, free, or escape slaves, chain them up,

01:37:41.250 --> 01:37:42.729
and then hide them until he could sell them back

01:37:42.729 --> 01:37:45.590
into slavery. One night, the slave -napper...

01:37:45.590 --> 01:37:47.430
I don't love that they've given him, like, a

01:37:47.430 --> 01:37:49.649
playful nickname. Yeah, you should just write

01:37:49.649 --> 01:37:54.649
The Bastard. Yeah, at best. At best. Anyways,

01:37:54.869 --> 01:37:57.310
one night the bastard was being chased. He hid

01:37:57.310 --> 01:37:58.970
in a poplar tree on the grounds of Woodburn.

01:37:59.210 --> 01:38:02.210
He hid so long that he fell asleep and accidentally

01:38:02.210 --> 01:38:07.470
strangled himself with his chains. Of course

01:38:07.470 --> 01:38:09.909
he did. They really did save the best for last.

01:38:11.210 --> 01:38:13.729
Who hasn't done that? This is like me trying

01:38:13.729 --> 01:38:16.670
to end a Fear Daily story. Oh, and then he strangled

01:38:16.670 --> 01:38:18.529
himself with his chains. I don't fucking know.

01:38:18.569 --> 01:38:23.020
Whatever. He shat himself to death. He was in

01:38:23.020 --> 01:38:25.319
the tree and then a fat boy, ticking, turned

01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:31.100
up and ate the tree and him. Yeah, ticking fat

01:38:31.100 --> 01:38:34.500
boy came out of the pond. Anyway, what can people

01:38:34.500 --> 01:38:37.359
hear near this tree? Oh, you're going to make

01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:38.859
me read it, aren't you? You can't leave us hanging

01:38:38.859 --> 01:38:44.340
like this, unlike him. The poplar tree is gone,

01:38:44.439 --> 01:38:47.359
but the ghost is still there, rattling his chain.

01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:54.739
Holy shit. Guys, I promise the next episode will

01:38:54.739 --> 01:38:57.699
be better. Good Lord. I'm jacked up on allergy

01:38:57.699 --> 01:39:00.899
meds, and I still think this is bad. I'm incredulous.

01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:09.760
God, I hate loose stories. You know, I found

01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:11.899
this in the newspaper. I was so stoked. I was

01:39:11.899 --> 01:39:13.739
like, oh, great. We can thread this in with our

01:39:13.739 --> 01:39:16.079
thing. And I read the first couple. I'm like,

01:39:16.140 --> 01:39:17.500
yeah, that's fine. It's fine. It's just kind

01:39:17.500 --> 01:39:19.600
of a little bonus thing to add to the stories

01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:22.810
we've already got. And it just, I was not prepared

01:39:22.810 --> 01:39:26.010
for, you know, not only would it go off the rails,

01:39:26.090 --> 01:39:28.770
it would go over the lip of the canyon and crash

01:39:28.770 --> 01:39:31.130
on the rocks below. Yes. Do we have many downloads

01:39:31.130 --> 01:39:39.270
in Delaware? Not after this. Well, with our sincerest

01:39:39.270 --> 01:39:41.670
apologies, that was our Delaware episode. Me

01:39:41.670 --> 01:39:45.409
too. It gave us the clock boy. It gave us drowning

01:39:45.409 --> 01:39:48.390
in piss. I think, you know, it's not all bad

01:39:48.390 --> 01:39:51.039
news. Yeah. We went on a journey tonight, folks.

01:39:51.260 --> 01:39:52.640
I don't know that it was somewhere we wanted

01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:55.020
to go, but we went on a journey. That has been

01:39:55.020 --> 01:39:57.600
our Delaware show. Thanks for listening. Thanks

01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:00.000
for enjoying this much of it. If you live in

01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:01.760
Delaware, send us an email. Explain why your

01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:04.399
ghost stories are so bad. Ghoststoryguys at gmail

01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:06.960
.com. We'd like to thank the Tourist Board of

01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:09.659
Delaware for sponsoring today's episode. Thanks,

01:40:09.699 --> 01:40:14.560
guys. I think their director of tourism is going

01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:16.479
to be on the building across from mine. I'm going

01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:18.159
to see a red dot appear on my chest. It's going

01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:21.779
to send bullseye after you. Shoot that smarmy

01:40:21.779 --> 01:40:25.300
son of a bitch. All right, guys. Again, if you

01:40:25.300 --> 01:40:27.060
want to get in touch, ghoststoryguys .gmail .com

01:40:27.060 --> 01:40:28.899
is the place to do it. We're also on Instagram

01:40:28.899 --> 01:40:30.840
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01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:33.119
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01:40:33.119 --> 01:40:35.659
we're on Reddit as r slash ghoststoryguyspodcast.

01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:37.800
We're going to take a quick break and we'll be

01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:54.119
back with the Ghost Wars show notes. Hey there,

01:40:54.199 --> 01:40:56.680
listeners. Before you reach for that skip 15

01:40:56.680 --> 01:40:59.119
seconds ahead button, I promise you this isn't

01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:02.039
an ad. We wanted to take a minute to talk to

01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:05.460
you about mental health. On this show, I've always

01:41:05.460 --> 01:41:07.880
tried to be as honest and open as possible about

01:41:07.880 --> 01:41:10.279
my struggles with depression and anxiety, because

01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:13.060
even though we've come a long way towards acknowledging

01:41:13.060 --> 01:41:16.319
the very real damage these things can do, there

01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:19.380
is still way too much lingering stigma about

01:41:19.380 --> 01:41:21.699
reaching out for help. And when you start to

01:41:21.699 --> 01:41:24.010
feel like there's no help, it's easy to start

01:41:24.010 --> 01:41:26.829
feeling like there's no hope. But Paul has joined

01:41:26.829 --> 01:41:29.970
me today to remind you there is always hope and

01:41:29.970 --> 01:41:32.789
there's always help. We're not going to try and

01:41:32.789 --> 01:41:35.210
talk you out of self -harming right now because

01:41:35.210 --> 01:41:38.829
we know that's not how it works. Instead, what

01:41:38.829 --> 01:41:41.750
we wanted to do was tell you something now and

01:41:41.750 --> 01:41:44.409
hope that should things get bad, you'll remember

01:41:44.409 --> 01:41:47.310
it and make a phone call or send a text message

01:41:47.310 --> 01:41:50.550
before you make any permanent decisions. As someone

01:41:50.550 --> 01:41:53.279
who knows all too well, Just how important mental

01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:56.119
health can be, it's never too late to reach out.

01:41:56.279 --> 01:42:01.880
In Canada, the number to call is 133 -456 -4566.

01:42:02.500 --> 01:42:07.619
In the USA, the new number to call is 988. That's

01:42:07.619 --> 01:42:15.119
988. In the UK, the number to call is 116 -123

01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:23.369
or text SHOUT. That's S -H -O -U -T. to 85258.

01:42:23.630 --> 01:42:30.590
In Australia, the number to call is 131114. However

01:42:30.590 --> 01:42:34.689
bad shit seems, it will pass, and no matter what

01:42:34.689 --> 01:42:36.930
your brain might be telling you at any given

01:42:36.930 --> 01:42:39.689
moment, and believe me when I say I know this

01:42:39.689 --> 01:42:43.109
intimately, there are people who love you, and

01:42:43.109 --> 01:42:45.850
people who care deeply about how you treat yourself.

01:42:46.729 --> 01:42:49.590
Should a time come when you find yourself despairing,

01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:52.140
Please know that we've both been where you are,

01:42:52.220 --> 01:42:56.079
and there is a way back to the world. Take care.

01:42:56.579 --> 01:43:00.199
Welcome back. The Ghost Story Guys are Luke Greensmith,

01:43:00.260 --> 01:43:03.220
who helps us find our stories. Sarah Kent, who

01:43:03.220 --> 01:43:06.199
manages our Reddit community. Tanya Downing,

01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:08.739
who helps manage our Facebook community. Our

01:43:08.739 --> 01:43:11.659
paranormal conductor is a very sniffly Mr. Brown

01:43:11.659 --> 01:43:14.739
Snow. And of course, my friend and co -host is

01:43:14.739 --> 01:43:18.100
the one, the only, the inimitable, Paul Bestel,

01:43:18.220 --> 01:43:21.140
the paranormal Johnny Carson himself, host of

01:43:21.140 --> 01:43:24.039
Mysteries and Monsters. Paul, what's coming up

01:43:24.039 --> 01:43:27.800
on M &M? We head to Scotland as I unpick, in

01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:30.199
the company of Malcolm Robinson, the Bonnie Bridge

01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:34.880
UFO enigma. As we talk about, one of Britain's,

01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:38.319
if not Britain's, most notorious hotspot for

01:43:38.319 --> 01:43:42.840
UFOs, with thousands of reports going back. which

01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:46.600
saw a massive influx of people, news reports

01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:48.779
and camera crews from all around the world turning

01:43:48.779 --> 01:43:51.680
up in the 90s. But it's still going on. The locals

01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:53.420
just can't be arsed to talk about it anymore

01:43:53.420 --> 01:43:55.239
because they're sick of people taking the piss

01:43:55.239 --> 01:43:58.319
out of them. So we have a good chat about that.

01:43:58.439 --> 01:44:01.420
And it's, yeah, it's a really great overview

01:44:01.420 --> 01:44:04.479
of that particular area, which, you know, as

01:44:04.479 --> 01:44:07.079
we were talking about Chillingham earlier, seemed

01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:09.460
to have been one of those places where you mention

01:44:09.460 --> 01:44:12.890
UFOs in the 90s. It was Bonnybridge. It was the

01:44:12.890 --> 01:44:14.489
place to be. They were even talking about building

01:44:14.489 --> 01:44:16.390
a spaceport there. There were petitions handed

01:44:16.390 --> 01:44:19.550
into Parliament and the Prime Minister of the

01:44:19.550 --> 01:44:23.689
time asking for an inquiry and the government

01:44:23.689 --> 01:44:26.229
refused to do so. So it's still going on there.

01:44:26.270 --> 01:44:29.590
It's a very interesting location for all kinds

01:44:29.590 --> 01:44:32.789
of weird things in the sky. Fascinating. And

01:44:32.789 --> 01:44:34.909
where can everyone find you online? You can find

01:44:34.909 --> 01:44:36.770
Mysteries and Monsters across most social media

01:44:36.770 --> 01:44:40.710
networks and all podcast sites. I'm LargelyTheTruth

01:44:40.710 --> 01:44:43.670
on Instagram, Threads, Blue Sky, and Letterboxd,

01:44:43.670 --> 01:44:45.569
and you can find my horror fiction show, Fear

01:44:45.569 --> 01:44:49.510
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This is killing me, Paul. And I took the allergy

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pills. It is not helping. Take more. You'll be

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up? I will have one at the end of May. Okay.

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And that is all I can say. Keep an eye out for

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that. As for me, I was just a guest on an episode

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of Hometown Ghost Stories. They did a live stream

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on the ghost town of Two Guns, Arizona. So I

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had a lot of fun with those fellas. And you can

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find that on their YouTube channel. It's a video

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show. They tell you, man, they have a hell of

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a production over there. I was very impressed.

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I really kind of drove home that I have no interest

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in becoming a YouTube show because that's a lot

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of fucking work. Yes, there's many a cog turning

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there. Holy man. They managed to make it look

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easy, but I know it's not. That's skill. Indeed.

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As always, you can find all of our appearances

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Story Guys house label. And I think that's going

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to do it. We'll be back next week. But until

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then... I'm going to sneeze for a while. Then

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into the darkness we go. Good for you. Oh, no,

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I have no doubt. Although I would argue that

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you maybe can't hate something without knowing

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much about it. I would say that is a rare quality.

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Sorry, one of the cats just threw themselves

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at the door. What the fuck? Outside to get in,

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bastards. So, yeah, since we've had the room

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done, the door doesn't shut properly. And so

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the cats have decided it's a really good game

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now just to push it open and fuck off. Well,

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I've noticed we've had a lot more internet problems

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since you moved back in there too. I don't know

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why, because I'm closer to the signal. Oh, weird.

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I was going to say, like, I'll send you a range

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extender, but no, okay. Yeah, I think we're,

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I don't know what's going on. You pissed something

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off is what you did. Hey, I'm not the one who

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upsets the fail all the time. That's true. That's

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true. I'm just going to take that right from

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the top. Oh, that's all coming up. I learned

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some stuff today. That's one for family viewers.

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Yep. Well, like I said, that's all coming out

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of the show anyways. Some of it will survive

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in outtake form, but not most of it. Yeah, it

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does get quite tiring, I have to say. Yes, I've

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also had lots of experience with, anyways. Chill

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out. Yep, I know that from experience. Yikes.

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Obviously, that's not staying in the show, but

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boy, that hurt. Thank you.