WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.339 You are now listening to Cryptid Cocktail Party. 00:00:40.780 --> 00:00:42.740 Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode 00:00:42.740 --> 00:00:44.340 of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have 00:00:44.340 --> 00:00:46.359 a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:48.219 into the unknown. I'm your host Dave, joined 00:00:48.219 --> 00:00:50.700 as always by my wonderful co -host Sarge. How's 00:00:50.700 --> 00:00:55.200 it going Sarge? Woo! Fucking Father's Day! Also, 00:00:55.320 --> 00:01:00.700 to our friends in Norway who have made us the 00:01:00.700 --> 00:01:04.920 124th most downloaded podcast in Norway. That's 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.900 not... even close to cheers in Norwegian because 00:01:07.900 --> 00:01:11.280 I'm from Norway so I'm not from there I don't 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:15.000 speak Norwegian my great grandmother no I'm sorry 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.859 my grandmother came to the United States from 00:01:17.859 --> 00:01:23.760 Norway after World War II and so I just know 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:28.760 that your food is mostly inedible But she is 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:32.359 a Norwegian. We're not the 124th most downloaded 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:37.260 podcast in Norway. That is insane to say. I don't 00:01:37.260 --> 00:01:40.420 know. We're charted. Yeah. In education. I don't 00:01:40.420 --> 00:01:43.480 know what you said. We're number 124 in education. 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:45.959 Yeah, that's fine. That's not. All right. Yeah. 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:47.579 All right. Yeah. So there's a lot of teachers. 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:50.219 We're the most downloaded podcast by teachers, 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:56.099 I guess. Nothing to do with that. Sarge showing 00:01:56.099 --> 00:01:57.780 his ignorance on podcast. Stop shitting in my 00:01:57.780 --> 00:02:02.140 ice cream, Dave. I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't... 00:02:02.140 --> 00:02:04.040 I had a quiet... I don't even remember what I 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:05.680 was going to say. But anyways, how was your Father's 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:07.579 Day? We're recording this on Father's Day. Let's 00:02:07.579 --> 00:02:09.400 just start over. Let's just start all the way 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:11.879 over. No, it's fine. Let's start over. It's Father's 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:13.699 Day. We're recording this on Father's Day. So 00:02:13.699 --> 00:02:17.060 happy Father's Day to all of you dads listening. 00:02:17.219 --> 00:02:20.120 It's coming out the day after Father's Day, but 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.370 that's never stopped us from... doing that's 00:02:22.370 --> 00:02:24.270 close enough yeah um but anyways how was your 00:02:24.270 --> 00:02:26.610 father's day sarge it was good i took my dad 00:02:26.610 --> 00:02:28.689 axe throwing he spent my entire life telling 00:02:28.689 --> 00:02:30.710 me not to throw axes then this motherfucker's 00:02:30.710 --> 00:02:33.590 just launching them well you know i feel like 00:02:33.590 --> 00:02:36.550 when once your kids leave the house i feel like 00:02:36.550 --> 00:02:39.270 parents become less yeah then you then you let 00:02:39.270 --> 00:02:42.949 the freak flag fly apparently well i'm glad you 00:02:42.949 --> 00:02:46.090 had a good father's day i'm glad you guys spent 00:02:46.090 --> 00:02:47.930 some time with your dad that's pretty cool i 00:02:47.930 --> 00:02:51.080 just talked to mine on the phone he's He's the 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:55.879 same. He's just doing his thing. I was like, 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:57.060 what are you doing today? He's like, I'm drinking, 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.439 doing some wiring. I'm like, what the fuck, Dad? 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:02.560 I feel like that's supposed to be two things 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.039 you shouldn't be doing simultaneously. He's like, 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.539 well, nothing's getting hooked up. It's just, 00:03:07.580 --> 00:03:08.879 you know, I'm putting the wires. I'm like, all 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.900 right, Dad, whatever. Okay. You psychopath. I'm 00:03:11.900 --> 00:03:13.599 putting the wires in and hoping for the best. 00:03:16.259 --> 00:03:19.569 But yeah. So, yeah, happy Father's Day, everyone. 00:03:19.710 --> 00:03:22.409 Hope everyone had a good one, was safe. Hope 00:03:22.409 --> 00:03:25.169 everyone had a good, safe time at the No Kings 00:03:25.169 --> 00:03:27.530 marches across the country, if you went to them. 00:03:27.789 --> 00:03:30.050 Yeah, we did the Pride march. I did the Pride 00:03:30.050 --> 00:03:32.169 march with my daughter yesterday. Pride march 00:03:32.169 --> 00:03:35.189 in Boston was also the No Kings rally, but they 00:03:35.189 --> 00:03:39.370 called it No Kings Yes Queen. That's fucking 00:03:39.370 --> 00:03:43.849 awesome. Yeah, it was the most people I have 00:03:43.849 --> 00:03:46.930 ever seen in Boston all at one time. It was mind 00:03:46.930 --> 00:03:49.750 -blowing to me. Well, I shouldn't say the most, 00:03:49.810 --> 00:03:53.830 but it was almost the most. The most amount of 00:03:53.830 --> 00:03:56.449 people I've seen in Boston was when we won the 00:03:56.449 --> 00:04:00.389 World Series in 2004, but this was pretty up 00:04:00.389 --> 00:04:04.090 there. It was close enough to that? Yeah, this 00:04:04.090 --> 00:04:10.919 was a large mob of angry gays. And I loved it. 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:13.719 It was the best thing in the world. Well, I'm 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.360 glad you had a good time. All right, Sarge. Yeah. 00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:18.639 You ready to dive into this? Before we start, 00:04:18.699 --> 00:04:20.680 I do have one quick question for you. Let's do 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.680 it. Are you a superstitious guy by any means? 00:04:24.339 --> 00:04:28.259 No. No. In fact, I'm actually a huge fan of Black 00:04:28.259 --> 00:04:31.180 Cats and the number 13. Okay. All right. But 00:04:31.180 --> 00:04:34.199 nothing, you don't have any like no like lucky. 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:35.740 I mean, you were overseas. You didn't have like 00:04:35.740 --> 00:04:38.769 a fucking like. touch a wall or some weird shit 00:04:38.769 --> 00:04:40.610 like superstition you do for like good luck or 00:04:40.610 --> 00:04:44.569 anything like that uh probably i mean i probably 00:04:44.569 --> 00:04:48.230 did but it was more of like just a ritual to 00:04:48.230 --> 00:04:51.610 kind of you know keep me focused you know what 00:04:51.610 --> 00:04:54.569 i mean like it was something you did to stay 00:04:54.569 --> 00:04:56.790 in the game it wasn't like i you know i thought 00:04:56.790 --> 00:04:59.449 if i if i shit on a wednesday i'd be dead on 00:04:59.449 --> 00:05:03.860 friday you know what i mean I wasn't Wade Boggs 00:05:03.860 --> 00:05:05.579 in it out there, just eating chicken and never 00:05:05.579 --> 00:05:08.180 changing my socks. All right, so it wasn't anything 00:05:08.180 --> 00:05:11.480 like that. It wasn't anything crazy like... Okay. 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:15.500 No, no, no, no. All right, well, as I'm sure 00:05:15.500 --> 00:05:17.540 you're aware, I'm sure everyone's aware, you 00:05:17.540 --> 00:05:20.819 know, Saturday, today's Father's Day, which is 00:05:20.819 --> 00:05:23.180 Sunday. Saturday was the No Kings protest, but 00:05:23.180 --> 00:05:26.860 the day before that, this past Friday, was Friday 00:05:26.860 --> 00:05:30.449 the 13th. Also... Apparently, it's the only one 00:05:30.449 --> 00:05:35.370 this year, which I found was... I didn't know 00:05:35.370 --> 00:05:36.889 that was a thing. You can only just have one. 00:05:37.069 --> 00:05:40.209 I don't know why that blew my mind, but I was 00:05:40.209 --> 00:05:42.810 weirded out by that. Yeah, so if anyone out there 00:05:42.810 --> 00:05:44.829 was listening, was planning on getting some super 00:05:44.829 --> 00:05:47.550 cheap tattoos this year, sucks to suck. You missed 00:05:47.550 --> 00:05:50.149 your window. But anyways, the reason why I bring 00:05:50.149 --> 00:05:52.850 up Friday the 13th is because I realized that 00:05:52.850 --> 00:05:55.930 I have no idea where this superstition comes 00:05:55.930 --> 00:06:00.009 from. it seems to me and probably everyone else 00:06:00.009 --> 00:06:02.389 listening that we as a society just decided it 00:06:02.389 --> 00:06:04.529 was unlucky and then everyone just kind of went 00:06:04.529 --> 00:06:07.850 along with it so i figured that today what we 00:06:07.850 --> 00:06:10.389 would do is we do a little dive into the history 00:06:10.389 --> 00:06:12.629 and origins of friday the 13th and just kind 00:06:12.629 --> 00:06:14.790 of see what all the fuss is about do you are 00:06:14.790 --> 00:06:17.350 you do you have any idea like any concept of 00:06:17.350 --> 00:06:19.649 where it might have come from yeah i mean i think 00:06:19.649 --> 00:06:22.730 i think i do i had a friend who was really into 00:06:22.730 --> 00:06:30.779 conspiracy theories and so he told me No, he 00:06:30.779 --> 00:06:33.819 surprisingly was far more into conspiracy theories 00:06:33.819 --> 00:06:37.680 than you were. And he once told me that Friday 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:42.600 the 13th became the day because the leader of 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:45.319 the Knights Templar was killed on Friday the 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:51.480 13th. Okay. All right. No, that's it. Yeah, that 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.439 was about it. And I didn't really believe him. 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.220 I love the guy and he was one of my closest friends, 00:06:58.300 --> 00:07:03.980 but you know, he also believed in some other 00:07:03.980 --> 00:07:06.579 stuff. So God just got to take it with a grain 00:07:06.579 --> 00:07:08.560 of salt. Some more, some more unsavory things 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:10.579 he probably believed in. So you're like, that's, 00:07:10.579 --> 00:07:12.639 that's good enough for me. Oh no, no, no. I mean, 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:14.560 like he believed the Holocaust was real and shit. 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.220 He was just like, you know, chemtrails. Well, 00:07:17.259 --> 00:07:21.160 that's good. All right. So. Turns out there's 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:23.199 more to it than I thought. Before goth kids and 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.699 tattoo artists co -opted this blasphemous day 00:07:25.699 --> 00:07:29.920 of days, Friday the 13th already had deep roots 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.959 in superstition as well as in religion, both 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.100 the number 13 and the day Friday itself. It's 00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:39.019 just really like a mashup of ancient numerology, 00:07:39.100 --> 00:07:42.399 Christian guilt, and mythological bad omens, 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.399 if that makes sense. Okay, okay. So I guess let's 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.939 start with the number 13. It's pretty much a 00:07:47.939 --> 00:07:50.819 universal symbol of bad luck. Across a wide array 00:07:50.819 --> 00:07:53.620 of cultures and beliefs, the number 12 was always 00:07:53.620 --> 00:07:56.600 considered complete. There are 12 months in a 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.860 year, 12 signs of the zodiac, 12 gods of Olympus, 00:07:59.939 --> 00:08:03.420 12 tribes of Israel, 12 apostles. You get it. 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:06.079 12 rolls in a dozen. Well, I was going to say, 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:10.879 so naturally, 13 becomes like the other. It's 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:13.259 the disruptor that makes everything feel kind 00:08:13.259 --> 00:08:16.649 of off. Unless you're a baker, then it's... Perfect 00:08:16.649 --> 00:08:20.670 for some reason. I don't understand why. But 00:08:20.670 --> 00:08:23.009 the anxiety around the number 13 didn't really 00:08:23.009 --> 00:08:25.910 get cranked up to 11 until Christianity got involved. 00:08:26.350 --> 00:08:28.350 Naturally, they ruined everything. Yeah. One 00:08:28.350 --> 00:08:31.310 of the big, I guess, like origin points for Friday 00:08:31.310 --> 00:08:33.570 the 13th paranoia goes all the way back to the 00:08:33.570 --> 00:08:37.990 Last Supper. So Judas, my guy, was supposedly 00:08:37.990 --> 00:08:40.909 the 13th person to sit down at the table. Then 00:08:40.909 --> 00:08:43.549 the next day, Jesus was crucified. And can you 00:08:43.549 --> 00:08:47.720 guess what day that was? Friday the 13th. Well, 00:08:47.779 --> 00:08:50.120 no, it was just a Friday, but you're getting 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:55.019 there. Well, son of a bitch. God damn it. Now, 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:57.179 at this point, Friday already had a reputation 00:08:57.179 --> 00:08:59.720 as being kind of like a somber and unlucky day. 00:09:00.419 --> 00:09:03.100 According to some older Christian doctrines, 00:09:03.179 --> 00:09:05.960 Friday was considered the day that Eve tempted 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.580 Adam, the day that Cain murked Abel, and also 00:09:09.580 --> 00:09:12.299 the day that... the great flood began. Basically, 00:09:12.299 --> 00:09:14.720 back then, if there was some sort of cosmic fuckery 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.620 going down, God made sure to pencil it in for 00:09:17.620 --> 00:09:20.500 a Friday. Okay. But Christianity, obviously, 00:09:20.820 --> 00:09:23.860 didn't really kick this shit off. You're going 00:09:23.860 --> 00:09:26.500 to enjoy this. In Norse mythology, there's a 00:09:26.500 --> 00:09:28.940 story where 12 gods are having a nice little 00:09:28.940 --> 00:09:31.360 dinner party in Valhalla when who else but Loki 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.659 shows up. uninvited as the 13th guest and he 00:09:34.659 --> 00:09:37.259 just starts stirring shit up he manipulates another 00:09:37.259 --> 00:09:39.940 god into killing balder the beautiful who was 00:09:39.940 --> 00:09:43.039 a beloved god of light and joy so balder dies 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.500 the world goes dark and in keeping with tradition 00:09:45.500 --> 00:09:49.120 the 13th guest ruins everything utter balderdash 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:58.909 right so so in uh So in both the Norse and Christian 00:09:58.909 --> 00:10:01.450 frameworks, you got the same pattern. 13 shows 00:10:01.450 --> 00:10:04.289 up, someone dies, everybody gets bummed out. 00:10:04.889 --> 00:10:08.029 Now, by the time you get to medieval Europe, 00:10:08.289 --> 00:10:10.370 Fridays were treated like a holy but haunted 00:10:10.370 --> 00:10:12.929 day because of the things I mentioned above. 00:10:13.190 --> 00:10:16.250 And 13 had long been like the numerical equivalent 00:10:16.250 --> 00:10:18.509 of a black cat walking under a ladder, giving 00:10:18.509 --> 00:10:20.450 you the finger with one hand and shattering a 00:10:20.450 --> 00:10:23.620 mirror with the other. But what really made Friday 00:10:23.620 --> 00:10:26.200 the 13th go from just spooky vibes to a full 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.779 -blown national day of dread was what happened 00:10:28.779 --> 00:10:32.519 on Friday, October 13th in the year 1307. Now, 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:34.600 Sarge, can you guess what happened on that day? 00:10:34.899 --> 00:10:38.120 The guy from the Knights Templar got killed, 00:10:38.259 --> 00:10:42.480 and that's what it was. You're close. You're 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:47.320 super close. So on that day, King Philip IV of 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:50.240 France decided, you know what? These Knights 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.720 Templar motherfuckers, they're getting just a 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:54.960 little too big for their britches, and I don't 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.980 like that. Now, for those of you who don't know 00:10:57.980 --> 00:11:00.259 who the Templars are or only know them from Indiana 00:11:00.259 --> 00:11:03.220 Jones, they were a very powerful and very wealthy 00:11:03.220 --> 00:11:05.139 order of knights that were originally founded 00:11:05.139 --> 00:11:08.320 to protect Christian pilgrims during the Crusades 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.059 and nothing else. They didn't do anything historically 00:11:11.059 --> 00:11:13.240 that could put a... Nothing else. Nothing else. 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.419 No, they definitely didn't do any other bad things. 00:11:16.539 --> 00:11:19.700 No, they were perfect in every way. But over 00:11:19.700 --> 00:11:21.940 time, though, they had gone from holy warriors 00:11:21.940 --> 00:11:26.759 to money lending warriors. Like they had their 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.320 own fleet of ships, castles, and a whole international 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.600 banking system going on. They were like medieval 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.639 Blackwater meets Wells Fargo. And King Philip 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.730 owed them a shit ton of money. So instead of 00:11:41.730 --> 00:11:44.269 just, you know, paying, Philip pulled what the 00:11:44.269 --> 00:11:46.850 kids would call... A dick move. Yeah. So instead 00:11:46.850 --> 00:11:49.029 of just paying, Philip pulled what the kids today 00:11:49.029 --> 00:11:51.429 would call a straight -up alpha move. He sent 00:11:51.429 --> 00:11:53.750 out sealed orders to be opened simultaneously 00:11:53.750 --> 00:11:56.889 across France, commanding the arrest of every 00:11:56.889 --> 00:11:59.830 Templar in the country. So at dawn on Friday 00:11:59.830 --> 00:12:01.850 the 13th, hundreds of them were dragged from 00:12:01.850 --> 00:12:04.149 their beds on some pretty wild charges. So the 00:12:04.149 --> 00:12:06.230 knights were accused of spitting on the cross, 00:12:06.570 --> 00:12:10.039 worshipping a mysterious bearded head, as well 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.519 as doing some weird sex things to each other 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:15.120 during initiation rites. It was part witch hunt, 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:17.720 part debt erasure, and it was all propaganda. 00:12:17.779 --> 00:12:20.039 The entire country hated the nice Templar at 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.799 this point. I was going to say, the organization 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.659 I belong to left out the sex stuff. Oh yeah, 00:12:25.700 --> 00:12:28.440 there was a lot of weird sex stuff. Now, dozens 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:30.600 of Templars were tortured and confessed to the 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.539 charges under duress. Most were burned alive. 00:12:34.220 --> 00:12:36.440 Now, the most famous of them, Grandmaster Jacques 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.580 de Molay, he actually held out until 1314 before 00:12:39.580 --> 00:12:42.039 he was finally executed in Paris. Now, according 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:45.259 to legend, as he was being burned alive, he cursed 00:12:45.259 --> 00:12:48.679 both the king and the pope, summoning them to 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.080 meet him before God within the year. And this 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.860 is kind of badass. They did. They both died within 00:12:54.860 --> 00:12:58.759 months of Jacques' execution. Amazing. Now, I 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.559 don't believe in God or curses, but if I was 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:04.110 around back then and that happened, It would 00:13:04.110 --> 00:13:06.309 probably make me question whose side God was 00:13:06.309 --> 00:13:10.330 really on in that matter. If this be not heresy 00:13:10.330 --> 00:13:12.690 or defection, by what name should we call it? 00:13:14.669 --> 00:13:17.409 But yeah, you're part of an organization, Sarge. 00:13:17.889 --> 00:13:23.149 Do you know any more on this? Yeah, I mean, there's 00:13:23.149 --> 00:13:25.929 some stuff, but I can't tell you because it's 00:13:25.929 --> 00:13:29.490 all secret. But I will tell you that I did know 00:13:29.490 --> 00:13:33.009 Jacques de Molay, Houdet Perral, and Guy Viverne. 00:13:33.610 --> 00:13:42.470 And that's about it. No, I mean, like I know, 00:13:42.490 --> 00:13:44.830 I know a bunch about this because I was in this 00:13:44.830 --> 00:13:46.950 organization. Uh, so there's an organization 00:13:46.950 --> 00:13:51.669 for young men, uh, ages, I think it's 12 or 14 00:13:51.669 --> 00:13:56.870 to 21 and it's called D Malay. And, um, it's 00:13:56.870 --> 00:13:58.629 actually something my little brother was in my 00:13:58.629 --> 00:14:01.610 sister. My sister's husband was a big member. 00:14:02.230 --> 00:14:06.419 Um, That sounded weird. It wasn't talking about 00:14:06.419 --> 00:14:08.860 penises, but that's how it sounded. And I get 00:14:08.860 --> 00:14:11.960 that. So we were in this organization. It was 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:13.460 really just like a youth group where we like 00:14:13.460 --> 00:14:15.500 did fun stuff. Like we went to like amusement 00:14:15.500 --> 00:14:17.659 parks and shit. So is this like, it sounds like 00:14:17.659 --> 00:14:21.480 you're describing like, like the, the Cub Scout 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.500 version to the, like the, like the Cub Scout 00:14:24.500 --> 00:14:26.679 version to the Boy Scouts version of the, like 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.679 the. what is it called? The Masons or something 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:30.440 like that? The Masons. Yeah. You know, they, 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.659 they, you had the boy scouts and then we were 00:14:32.659 --> 00:14:34.860 the man scouts. Like I taught you how to be like 00:14:34.860 --> 00:14:37.059 an adult in polite society. You learned a lot 00:14:37.059 --> 00:14:38.840 about civic stuff. You learned how government 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.860 works, that kind of thing. It was a cool little 00:14:41.860 --> 00:14:44.679 group. And I, I, you know, my best friend was 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:46.779 in it and we were, you know, we're still very 00:14:46.779 --> 00:14:51.120 close. Um, and, and you, you learned about this 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:53.940 particular instance of, of Guillaume Verne, Houdet 00:14:53.940 --> 00:14:56.940 Perral, Jacques T. Millet. being imprisoned on 00:14:56.940 --> 00:15:00.820 friday the 13th yeah but anywho while the connection 00:15:00.820 --> 00:15:03.179 between friday the 13th and the templar arrests 00:15:03.179 --> 00:15:06.220 wasn't widely considered the true beginning of 00:15:06.220 --> 00:15:08.679 the idea until like the 20th century i think 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:11.200 like dan brown and like conspiracy theorists 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.039 like oh god yeah they all kind of latched onto 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:17.240 the story as like the true origin and it has 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:19.120 since become for sure one of the most like dramatic 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:21.860 origin stories tied to the superstition i mean 00:15:21.860 --> 00:15:24.860 yeah no one can say for sure when and where it 00:15:24.860 --> 00:15:27.940 truly began but friday the 13th 1307 definitely 00:15:27.940 --> 00:15:30.759 gave it like a real body count and like not a 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:34.500 great legacy going forward so yeah it's pretty 00:15:34.500 --> 00:15:37.480 fucked up yeah and and we learned and i don't 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.480 know how true this is you can you'll fill us 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.379 in because you did the research but we learned 00:15:41.379 --> 00:15:44.340 that philip the fair france did this because 00:15:44.340 --> 00:15:47.759 he wanted all the money that the knights templar 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:49.759 had because he had pissed away a lot of his money 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:52.500 on bullshit yeah well he loaned the the knights 00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:54.879 templar loaned him he was broke so they loaned 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:57.399 him a bunch of money and then instead of like 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:02.179 just paying it back he was like fuck all y 'all 00:16:02.179 --> 00:16:04.980 i'm gonna wipe you all out and then i'm just 00:16:04.980 --> 00:16:07.240 gonna so he donald trumped it and then he seized 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.830 all The gold, like all their, I guess gold back. 00:16:09.889 --> 00:16:11.269 I don't know what it'd be. They didn't have cash, 00:16:11.350 --> 00:16:12.850 but you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I know. 00:16:13.210 --> 00:16:16.149 He sees their lands and their titles. He basically, 00:16:16.190 --> 00:16:18.990 yeah, basically. And then he turned everyone 00:16:18.990 --> 00:16:21.289 against the night. Like it was propaganda. My 00:16:21.289 --> 00:16:23.190 buddy, Frank is going to be real mad at me if 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:24.669 I don't mention this, but there was another guy. 00:16:24.769 --> 00:16:27.669 His name was Godfrey to Godville. So it's Godfrey 00:16:27.669 --> 00:16:30.250 to Godville, who they parole. Give a burn and 00:16:30.250 --> 00:16:34.570 jock team away. My mistake. I apologize. Oh, 00:16:34.590 --> 00:16:39.059 four of them. Four of them. Okay. All right. 00:16:39.139 --> 00:16:43.179 So, yeah. My father -in -law, James, is probably 00:16:43.179 --> 00:16:46.480 bricked up right now knowing that I'm talking 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:51.500 about this. Okay. So, so far, we've got Norse 00:16:51.500 --> 00:16:54.759 gods, Christianity, and betrayed knights to really 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:57.279 set the stage. But despite centuries of vague 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.100 superstition floating around, Friday the 13th 00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:02.200 didn't really become like an official thing in 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.359 society until like surprisingly recently. The 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:07.680 phrase Friday the 13th wasn't even commonly written 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.500 down until the 1800s. And even then it wasn't 00:17:10.500 --> 00:17:12.420 like drenched in horror. It was more of like 00:17:12.420 --> 00:17:14.680 a weird coincidence people noticed when shit 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.220 went weird. If that makes sense. Yeah. That is 00:17:17.220 --> 00:17:20.500 until 1907 when stockbroker and novelist Thomas 00:17:20.500 --> 00:17:23.400 Lawson published a book called Friday the 13th. 00:17:23.539 --> 00:17:26.529 The plot of the book. basically summed up as 00:17:26.529 --> 00:17:28.849 like a shady broker and his friend make reckless 00:17:28.849 --> 00:17:31.450 stock trades on Friday the 13th in order to crash 00:17:31.450 --> 00:17:33.490 the stock market. I guess it was kind of like 00:17:33.490 --> 00:17:36.009 a mashup of like American psycho meets wall street, 00:17:36.109 --> 00:17:38.769 but the book was like a huge hit. And from there 00:17:38.769 --> 00:17:40.829 it just kind of snowballed. Like the date was 00:17:40.829 --> 00:17:43.650 firmly planted in Western culture, kind of a 00:17:43.650 --> 00:17:46.309 day that's not cursed, but like cursed light, 00:17:46.470 --> 00:17:49.069 I guess like, yeah, not a great day. It became 00:17:49.069 --> 00:17:51.049 bad enough to make people like cancel plans, 00:17:51.190 --> 00:17:53.029 but not so bad that you need to like consult 00:17:53.029 --> 00:17:56.019 a priest about it. Yeah, that's why they don't 00:17:56.019 --> 00:17:59.619 have 13th floors in some tall buildings. Yeah, 00:17:59.619 --> 00:18:01.819 well, that actually leads me to this. It led 00:18:01.819 --> 00:18:07.339 to some pretty weird modern superstitions. Like 00:18:07.339 --> 00:18:09.599 hotels and skyscrapers skipping the 13th floor. 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:14.079 A lot of planes don't have a row 13. People refuse 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:16.960 to go to work or get married on Friday the 13th. 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.980 And especially in Western cultures where the 00:18:18.980 --> 00:18:22.420 number 13 already had a bad rap thanks to Jesus 00:18:22.420 --> 00:18:26.759 and numerology. And of course, the episode wouldn't 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:28.579 be complete if I didn't mention that in 1980, 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:31.599 the movie Friday the 13th came out. And as I'm 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:34.420 sure you all know, the film leaned hard into 00:18:34.420 --> 00:18:36.720 the superstition, using the date as a backdrop 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:38.579 for all the shenanigans that went on at Camp 00:18:38.579 --> 00:18:41.240 Crystal Lake. And then since then, Hollywood 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:43.559 and the media played a really big part in pushing 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:47.059 the Friday the 13th superstitions to the masses. 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:49.900 It's pretty much everywhere at this point. But 00:18:49.900 --> 00:18:54.559 all that said and done. Friday the 13th isn't 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:57.039 a universal thing. Like, for instance, in Italy, 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:00.799 Friday the 17th is considered the unluckiest 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:02.900 day. And in Spain and much of Latin America, 00:19:03.059 --> 00:19:05.819 it's Tuesday the 13th. So I guess culturally 00:19:05.819 --> 00:19:08.380 the date is flexible, I guess. It just needs 00:19:08.380 --> 00:19:12.339 one of the two, like a Friday or a 13. It seems 00:19:12.339 --> 00:19:15.759 like. It's really just whatever one you want 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:18.019 to put it on. Yeah. How are you feeling so far, 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:20.819 Sarge? This is fucking great. I'm very excited. 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:25.380 I got to mention Frank and James, my brother 00:19:25.380 --> 00:19:29.180 -in -law and my best friend. And then, of course, 00:19:29.259 --> 00:19:35.000 my younger brother, Jordan, who was... So James 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:37.740 and Jordan were actually state officers in this 00:19:37.740 --> 00:19:39.519 group. They were like bigwigs in Massachusetts 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:42.759 when they were kids because of this. So I'm very... 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:44.779 I just texted them. I'm very excited. I can't 00:19:44.779 --> 00:19:47.880 wait for them to hear this. I'm also excited 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:50.180 because it validates some of the crazy things 00:19:50.180 --> 00:19:55.660 Frank told me when I was younger. But I'm also 00:19:55.660 --> 00:19:58.380 alarmed because now I wonder what other things 00:19:58.380 --> 00:20:02.259 he told me actually turned out to be true. Like, 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:05.619 do I need a gas mask when I go outside? Dude, 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:08.000 that's the one thing about conspiracy theorists. 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:10.180 There's part of me that at some points, I'm like, 00:20:10.299 --> 00:20:13.109 what if Alex Jones is right? You know what I 00:20:13.109 --> 00:20:15.009 mean? Like what if we're all the crazy ones? 00:20:15.470 --> 00:20:18.309 Cause you come across something that's like, 00:20:18.329 --> 00:20:20.789 I mean, to be fair, the best conspiracy theories 00:20:20.789 --> 00:20:23.009 have some semblance of truth. So when you come 00:20:23.009 --> 00:20:25.390 across something that is true, that's part of 00:20:25.390 --> 00:20:27.630 a larger conspiracy, you're like, fuck. Like, 00:20:27.630 --> 00:20:31.809 yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh shit. What else is real? 00:20:32.390 --> 00:20:34.630 Oh, I hate that. I hate it so much. Cause then 00:20:34.630 --> 00:20:36.410 I second guess myself and I feel like a crazy 00:20:36.410 --> 00:20:37.910 person, but it's like, nah, they're the crazy 00:20:37.910 --> 00:20:42.369 ones. I was picking on Frank earlier he's not 00:20:42.369 --> 00:20:44.309 that crazy he didn't believe in chemtrails but 00:20:44.309 --> 00:20:46.490 you know he had like he had some conspiracy theories 00:20:46.490 --> 00:20:49.130 he threw at me that like you know what you know 00:20:49.130 --> 00:20:53.170 in cartoons when somebody takes like a drug or 00:20:53.170 --> 00:20:55.250 whatever and their eyes dilate that's what happened 00:20:55.250 --> 00:20:57.569 to me when I met Frank this dude turned me on 00:20:57.569 --> 00:21:03.269 to a ton of crazy shit Frank I know you're gonna 00:21:03.269 --> 00:21:05.490 listen to this I just want to thank you for making 00:21:05.490 --> 00:21:08.230 me goddamn weird I appreciate it thanks Frank 00:21:09.089 --> 00:21:14.910 So yeah. So the Friday the 13th panic we know 00:21:14.910 --> 00:21:17.309 and love is mostly just really a mashup of weird 00:21:17.309 --> 00:21:20.089 history, religious nonsense, publishing gimmicks, 00:21:20.089 --> 00:21:22.609 and Hollywood and the media, which really is 00:21:22.609 --> 00:21:24.869 the basis for almost everything we observe or 00:21:24.869 --> 00:21:27.430 celebrate in our country. So I don't know why 00:21:27.430 --> 00:21:29.470 this would be any different. But like I said, 00:21:29.490 --> 00:21:31.349 I wanted to know more about it. So now you guys 00:21:31.349 --> 00:21:33.819 have to know about it. But I guess the question 00:21:33.819 --> 00:21:36.019 I should have been asking isn't why do we observe 00:21:36.019 --> 00:21:38.059 it, but does it actually live up to the hype? 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:40.980 Like, is there a reason for us to fear it? Like, 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:43.079 have there been real world tragedies or events 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:45.319 that have happened? Or are we, you know, as a 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.579 species just looking for patterns in the chaos 00:21:48.579 --> 00:21:51.299 that is life? Well, it's a little bit of both. 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.619 For starters, some people suffer from the condition 00:21:55.619 --> 00:21:57.839 known as, and I'm going to butcher this pronunciation. 00:21:59.690 --> 00:22:02.369 Triskaidekaphobia. That's the fancy $5 word for 00:22:02.369 --> 00:22:05.210 the fear of number 13. Dude, you nailed it. I 00:22:05.210 --> 00:22:07.750 would have fucked that up. I wouldn't have even 00:22:07.750 --> 00:22:12.289 tried. I had to give it a shot. Then you can 00:22:12.289 --> 00:22:16.730 supersize that for $1 more and get Paraskevidekatriophobia, 00:22:17.029 --> 00:22:19.849 which is the fear of Friday the 13th specifically. 00:22:22.989 --> 00:22:25.730 Jesus Christ. In our society, we have played 00:22:25.730 --> 00:22:27.990 up the hype around Friday the 13th so much that 00:22:27.990 --> 00:22:30.910 there's an actual phobia about it, which is insane. 00:22:31.430 --> 00:22:33.750 But hey, they only happen a couple times a year, 00:22:33.809 --> 00:22:36.069 if sometimes once a year, so a lot of people 00:22:36.069 --> 00:22:38.349 don't have much to worry about. Now, yeah, the 00:22:38.349 --> 00:22:42.430 superstition also has a very real and tangible 00:22:42.430 --> 00:22:46.450 economic impact, like billions of dollars kind 00:22:46.450 --> 00:22:48.890 of impact. Studies have shown that on Friday 00:22:48.890 --> 00:22:51.349 the 13th, people are less likely to travel, schedule 00:22:51.349 --> 00:22:53.869 major medical procedures, make big purchases, 00:22:54.029 --> 00:22:57.009 or even go to work. The Stress Management and 00:22:57.009 --> 00:22:59.450 Phobia Institute once estimated that the U .S. 00:22:59.450 --> 00:23:03.230 loses up to $900 million every time that date 00:23:03.230 --> 00:23:06.190 rolls around, just from people collectively chickening 00:23:06.190 --> 00:23:11.049 out. So if you need to get an appointment at 00:23:11.049 --> 00:23:14.069 the DMV, sounds like Friday the 13th is the way 00:23:14.069 --> 00:23:16.430 to go if you're not super superstitious. I guess. 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:19.380 I mean, I feel like it's a nightmare no matter 00:23:19.380 --> 00:23:22.660 what day. Yeah, no, it's true. You know what's 00:23:22.660 --> 00:23:25.440 interesting about this? Sorry to cut you off, 00:23:25.500 --> 00:23:26.980 but you know what's interesting about this is 00:23:26.980 --> 00:23:31.619 that in Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson, 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.500 he talks about the number 13 and its meaning 00:23:34.500 --> 00:23:37.460 to the Hell's Angels. Yeah. So a lot of them 00:23:37.460 --> 00:23:40.700 would have like a 13 patch. Yeah. And that's 00:23:40.700 --> 00:23:44.059 because 13 stands for the 13th letter of the 00:23:44.059 --> 00:23:47.500 alphabet, which is M. which stands for marijuana. 00:23:47.740 --> 00:23:50.059 Oh, I did not know that. Yeah, they would have 00:23:50.059 --> 00:23:52.440 13 patches that would just signify that they 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:54.720 like to smoke weed. I feel like that's extra. 00:23:54.900 --> 00:23:56.480 I feel like you don't have to do that. Well, 00:23:56.619 --> 00:24:00.039 I mean, you know, you do run into problems when 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.420 you start using the numerical code for the alphabet. 00:24:03.019 --> 00:24:04.880 True, but also I feel like if you're in the Hells 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.650 Angels, I just assumed that. That would be the 00:24:08.650 --> 00:24:13.089 case anyways. Well, I'm sure now 13 stands for 00:24:13.089 --> 00:24:16.470 meth, but back in the day. Yeah, I mean, that's 00:24:16.470 --> 00:24:18.769 where my head went. When you first said the letter 00:24:18.769 --> 00:24:20.329 M, I was like, ah, yeah, no, we know where this 00:24:20.329 --> 00:24:26.069 is going. It's fine. Now, are there actually 00:24:26.069 --> 00:24:28.809 more accidents or disasters on Friday the 13th? 00:24:29.289 --> 00:24:32.990 Not really. Some studies have shown a small uptick 00:24:32.990 --> 00:24:35.190 in accidents or hospital visits, but others showed 00:24:35.190 --> 00:24:39.190 no significant. But we as a society are really 00:24:39.190 --> 00:24:41.369 good at cherry -picking events to fit a narrative. 00:24:41.650 --> 00:24:45.269 Case in point, I did just that. A 13 -year -old 00:24:45.269 --> 00:24:48.910 boy in the UK, 13 -year -old boy in the UK, was 00:24:48.910 --> 00:24:52.009 struck by lightning at exactly 1313 on Friday 00:24:52.009 --> 00:24:56.210 the 13th back in 2010. He survived, but the media 00:24:56.210 --> 00:24:57.910 ate that shit up. You're getting fancy with it. 00:24:58.210 --> 00:25:01.690 Yeah. The Costa Concordia cruise ship. That's 00:25:01.690 --> 00:25:09.539 1 p .m. for the rest of you. Yes, Sarge. The 00:25:09.539 --> 00:25:12.599 Costa Concordia cruise ship capsized on Friday, 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:16.160 January 13, 2012, killing 32 people. And probably 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.779 the most infamous was Flight 571, crashed on 00:25:19.779 --> 00:25:23.819 Friday, October 13, 1972. Survivors were stranded 00:25:23.819 --> 00:25:26.380 in the Andes for 72 days and had to resort to 00:25:26.380 --> 00:25:29.440 cannibalism to survive. You might know this story 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.319 better as the incident that inspired the movie 00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:35.240 Alive. Yeah, and a couple of restaurants. What? 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:37.900 yeah i'm sure there's like a couple of restaurants 00:25:37.900 --> 00:25:42.819 that open up that were people themed okay but 00:25:42.819 --> 00:25:45.940 here's the thing i need people but here's the 00:25:45.940 --> 00:25:48.720 thing humans are wired to notice patterns so 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.859 when something awful happens on friday the 13th 00:25:50.859 --> 00:25:54.200 it feels bigger heavier moral like more meant 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:56.940 to be even though statistically shit goes wrong 00:25:56.940 --> 00:25:58.839 all the time sometimes it just happens to land 00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:01.710 on a friday with a spooky number so yeah The 00:26:01.710 --> 00:26:04.670 real power of Friday the 13th isn't some ancient 00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:06.970 curse. It's in the way we collectively treat 00:26:06.970 --> 00:26:10.730 it like a curse. But in the more recent years, 00:26:10.890 --> 00:26:13.269 people have been kind of leaning into the superstition. 00:26:13.650 --> 00:26:16.190 Tattoo shops run Friday the 13th flash sales. 00:26:16.369 --> 00:26:18.309 You know, cheap tattoos, usually tiny spooky 00:26:18.309 --> 00:26:20.549 ones in celebration of the unluckiest day of 00:26:20.549 --> 00:26:23.670 the year. Bars serve up special cocktails. Haunted 00:26:23.670 --> 00:26:26.750 houses open out of season. In small towns with 00:26:26.750 --> 00:26:29.720 a more dark sense of humor, throw... like Friday 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:32.079 the 13th festivals with vendors and horror movie 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:34.339 screenings. And it's like we see with a bunch 00:26:34.339 --> 00:26:38.200 of the other stuff we cover. What was once feared 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.859 is now celebrated. And that's one of the rad 00:26:40.859 --> 00:26:43.000 things about modern folklore, like it mutates. 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.559 It gets recycled through pop culture, the media, 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.160 and pretty much like detachment to the point 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:50.420 where we don't know whether we're afraid or just 00:26:50.420 --> 00:26:53.980 vibing with it ironically or just full on celebrating 00:26:53.980 --> 00:26:56.099 it. But yeah, there you have it, Sarge. That 00:26:56.099 --> 00:26:59.660 is the origin and... lead up to where we are 00:26:59.660 --> 00:27:02.140 now on Friday the 13th. How are you feeling about 00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:05.599 it? I am so sorry that I didn't believe you, 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:08.640 Frank. Holy shit. I mean, technically, he's not 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.240 right, but he's also not wrong. No, he is right. 00:27:11.420 --> 00:27:13.779 I don't think he said that they died on that 00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:16.000 day. He probably told me the whole story because 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.240 he's a really smart guy. But it's also not the 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.019 true origin of Friday the 13th. So he's kind 00:27:21.019 --> 00:27:23.460 of right and kind of wrong. Yeah, but like, you 00:27:23.460 --> 00:27:26.140 know, he wasn't far off the money is what I'm 00:27:26.140 --> 00:27:28.869 saying. He was not. No, no, no. No, I think this 00:27:28.869 --> 00:27:31.309 is, this was cool. I was, I'm glad I learned 00:27:31.309 --> 00:27:33.849 something today. Besides the fact that my dad 00:27:33.849 --> 00:27:36.069 gets real mad when I beat him at throwing axes. 00:27:36.589 --> 00:27:40.990 Sorry, Gus. Yeah. I just, I've always, you know, 00:27:40.990 --> 00:27:43.670 as Friday, he's always been part of like part 00:27:43.670 --> 00:27:46.309 of the zeitgeist of society that like, I never 00:27:46.309 --> 00:27:50.589 even once bothered to look into why or how. Well, 00:27:50.609 --> 00:27:52.589 yeah, it's like, it's, it's one of those things 00:27:52.589 --> 00:27:54.509 that we just take for granted until you actually 00:27:54.509 --> 00:27:55.589 start thinking about it. And you're like, wait, 00:27:55.630 --> 00:27:59.740 why is this a problem? Yeah. I mean, it's not. 00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:01.180 I've never had anything bad happen to me on a 00:28:01.180 --> 00:28:04.599 Friday the 13th, so I'm not crazy concerned about 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.720 it. Yeah, me neither. I mean, I just wanted to 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.920 know where it came from and what the whole deal 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:10.920 was, and I learned, and now you all learned. 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.779 I often use the number 13 in my passwords. I 00:28:13.779 --> 00:28:16.299 like 13, though. The number 13 doesn't bother 00:28:16.299 --> 00:28:18.160 me at all. I got no problem with it. I don't 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.319 think it's a bad number. I mean, if I had to 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.819 choose a number that I think is worse, 27. If 00:28:22.819 --> 00:28:24.440 I'm going to be honest, that's just, I hate that. 00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:26.759 Yeah. I don't like 27. There's something wrong 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:28.740 with that number. It's not a good number. And 00:28:28.740 --> 00:28:30.200 I don't know if that's like an autism thing, 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.900 but I feel like 27 is more cursed than 13. Yeah, 00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:35.000 I agree. I agree. I don't like the number 27. 00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:37.519 I love the number 13. Yeah, it's great. It's 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:41.960 fine. Uh, yeah. All right. So any final thoughts, 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.099 any parting things you want to say about the 00:28:44.099 --> 00:28:46.319 episode before we. Going to all the plugging 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.880 and stuff? No, no. That was actually a lot of 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.700 fun. I really liked that topic. I'm very excited 00:28:52.700 --> 00:28:54.740 about it. I'm going to look into more 13 stuff. 00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.420 I want to see what else people don't do when 00:28:58.420 --> 00:29:02.240 there's a 13. Do the Duggars, is their 13th kid 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.160 a fucking demon? What happened? I want to know 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.539 more. That whole family's demonic to begin with, 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.019 so it doesn't really matter. No, that's absolutely 00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:15.349 true. Josh Duggar. When your first kid is a fucking 00:29:15.349 --> 00:29:18.869 sex pest, you should have stopped having kids. 00:29:19.349 --> 00:29:20.789 Yeah, but they didn't know that until, like, 00:29:20.829 --> 00:29:23.109 they were, like, eight deep, I feel like, probably. 00:29:23.470 --> 00:29:25.690 Yeah, but they still had, like, 28 other kids 00:29:25.690 --> 00:29:27.450 after that. You know what I mean? Like, stop. 00:29:27.650 --> 00:29:31.289 You made a bad one the first time around. The 00:29:31.289 --> 00:29:40.790 rest can't be that great. All right, Sarge. Yeah, 00:29:40.790 --> 00:29:42.349 that's the episode. Thanks so much for listening 00:29:42.349 --> 00:29:44.730 to everyone. I know we got a bunch of new listeners 00:29:44.730 --> 00:29:47.130 recently, so thank you so much for checking us 00:29:47.130 --> 00:29:49.569 out. If you like what you hear, please leave 00:29:49.569 --> 00:29:51.329 us a rating and review. It really helps the show 00:29:51.329 --> 00:29:53.569 get into more people's ears, so tell your friends, 00:29:53.609 --> 00:29:54.950 family, whoever you think might be interested 00:29:54.950 --> 00:29:57.650 in learning about cryptids, aliens, conspiracies, 00:29:57.650 --> 00:30:00.589 or weird historical things about holidays that 00:30:00.589 --> 00:30:03.170 we celebrate. You can follow us on Instagram, 00:30:03.430 --> 00:30:05.369 Cryptic Cocktail, follow us on TikTok, Cryptic 00:30:05.369 --> 00:30:08.109 Cocktail Party. We got a Patreon if you want 00:30:08.109 --> 00:30:12.079 to Sub to that. And sorry, do you got anything 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:14.019 you want to plug before we sign off? No, no. 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.400 I just want to say a happy pride to everyone. 00:30:16.460 --> 00:30:19.019 I know pride happens in different weekends throughout 00:30:19.019 --> 00:30:21.700 June, but frankly, pride is one of my favorite 00:30:21.700 --> 00:30:26.779 months. Not only because it highlights and celebrates 00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:31.019 a community that took me in when I was an odd, 00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.200 weird teenager, even though I wasn't a member 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.359 of the LGBTQ community, I was like accepted as 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:40.890 a, as a friend. Um, and then, you know, it doesn't, 00:30:40.890 --> 00:30:45.410 it doesn't hurt the fact that, uh, uh, conservative 00:30:45.410 --> 00:30:48.450 morons hate it. That also makes me very happy. 00:30:48.490 --> 00:30:54.029 So happy pride, uh, uh, happy holidays to you. 00:30:54.089 --> 00:30:57.869 Conservative fuckheads. And, um, I hope everybody 00:30:57.869 --> 00:31:01.390 had a great weekend and go do some gay shit. 00:31:01.549 --> 00:31:04.309 Cause I'm proud of you. Be gay, do crime. All 00:31:04.309 --> 00:31:07.450 right, Sarge. Yes. With that out of the way, 00:31:07.490 --> 00:31:08.650 do you want to say goodbye and I love you to 00:31:08.650 --> 00:31:11.509 the audience? Yes. Audience, goodbye. I love 00:31:11.509 --> 00:31:15.890 you. Also, happy 250th birthday, Army. Sorry 00:31:15.890 --> 00:31:18.250 you had to march in dipshits parade, but I hope 00:31:18.250 --> 00:31:21.690 you got drunk yesterday. Goodbye and I love you.