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Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode
of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have
a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive
into the unknown. I'm your host Dave, joined
as always by my wonderful co -host Sarge. How's
it going Sarge? Hey there neighbors! Just working
on a new catchphrase. What the fuck is up? How
we doing? You gotta workshop these things. And
you know, we'll do a poll at some point of which
one's the best. It's either the... fuck is up
or what did you oh but how you doing bud how's
your weekend going uh it's good it's good i went
to a lego convention oh yeah and um yeah i don't
normally associate with people who like the things
i like because i don't want new friends yeah
i feel that and and people get chatty um But
it was good. It was a good time. I wish I had
millions of dollars that I could spend on retired
Lego sets that I always wanted but didn't have
the money for. And now they're worth like four
times as much as they were when I originally
wanted them. Yeah, that's about it. It was a
good time. Took my oldest boy. We did some bro
time, some bonding. And now I'm here. Hell yeah,
dude. I'm glad you had a good time or a relatively
good time. An okay time. I'm glad you had a time.
Yeah. How was your weekend? I never ask. How
was your weekend? It was fine. Did a lot of chores.
Took my dogs for a little adventure down by Graffiti
Pier. See, this is why I never ask. Because I
don't do anything. But one fun thing about this
weekend is that you and I were a guest on Scared
all the time. We were. We were. And it was great.
I had a blast. I had so much fun. Yeah, so be
sure to keep an eye out. I believe the episode
comes out June 12th. It's on shark attacks. Yeah,
and we talked a lot more about nipples than you
think we should. Yeah, but it was relative to
how far into water you are. Yeah, it was a unit
of measurement. Yeah, it wasn't just nip talk.
Just to be clear, we're not saying this many
nipples side by side. is how long something is.
It was like how high up in the water a person
was. Yeah. It's about nip high. I think they
got it. I just wanted to clarify. I don't want
people thinking that I'm trying to imagine how
big their nipples are. And if I can measure their
length that way. True. But I mean, just like
snowflakes, everyone's nipples are different.
I feel like it's not a good unit of measurement.
I feel like I got big old store -bought pepperonis
that I'm rocking. All right. You ready to dive
into this week's episode, Sarge? Yes, I am. I
am beyond ready. So first and foremost, I want
to welcome everyone to the inaugural first episode
of our new series. We're going to try something
new called Debunked. It's not like a whole new
show within a show. It's just every once in a
while we'll do one of these episodes, these debunking
episodes, because I feel like we talk a lot about
conspiracies on this show. And while we do briefly
talk about how they're just absolute horseshit,
we don't really dive into just how or why. So
I figured every once in a while. Let's just really
get into it. So does that sound like something
you'd be into, Sarge, and also listeners? Yeah,
let's get into it. This is like one of my favorite
things to do. Is debunking? Because I believe
in conspiracy theories, and I used to blindly
believe in them when I was younger. Yeah. And
then I realized that they kept making me look
like an asshole when I found out they weren't
real. So I started making others look like assholes
by debunking them. Conspiracy theories. Yeah.
I mean, I don't, I don't vicious cycle. I don't
believe in conspiracy theories, but I like the
idea of them. If that makes sense. That's the
thing is it's fun to let them roam around in
your imagination. But before we get into our
first debunking, we should probably talk about
a term that is used in conspiracy circles a lot,
and that is false flags. Oh, God. If you've ever
listened to Bill Cooper or his less entertaining
fat -necked asshole contemporary Alex Jones,
you've heard this term thrown around quite a
bit. So what is a false flag? Well, a false flag
at its core is a covert act designed to deceive.
We did touch on a previous episode, I believe,
where it came from. The name comes from naval
warfare. Ships would fly the flag of another
country to trick their enemies before attacking.
Now, in modern terms, it's referring to a government
or organization committing an act, usually violent
or terroristic, and making it look like someone
else did it, often to justify war, crackdowns
on certain things, martial law, or just for some
sort of political gain. If you want to look up
a good, true false flag situation, You can look
up Operation Northwoods. It never actually happened,
but that is an excellent example of what a false
flag operation would be. And that is Operation
Northwoods. If you ever want to know how little
the government values human life. Yeah. That's
a good one. We may or may not get to that. Yeah,
it's a terrifying deep dive into the disgusting
and depraved mind of government officials. Yeah,
I meant in this episode we might get to that.
Oh, oh, snapperino. I better shut my mouth then.
But in the Bill Cooper, Alex Jones conspiracy
circles, false flag usually just equals manufactured
crisis, something orchestrated by the deep state
globalists to manipulate public opinion or policy.
So basically, anytime there's a school shooting
or an act of domestic terror, it's always a false
flag, usually designed to take our guns away
or enact martial law. Usually the martial law
thing is if it's a democratic president. Yeah.
But even though these ding -dongs cry wolf every
time there is a tragedy, that doesn't mean that
there aren't some real -world examples of false
flags happening. I do want to, before you go
on, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I do want to...
So you had mentioned that it's normally a democratic
president, and you're absolutely right. With
the glowing exception of the Bushes. Oh yeah.
Well, because for some reason, actually not for
some reason, I mean, I get it. Alex Jones fucking
hated George W. Bush. I feel like a lot of like
far right people hated George W. Bush, which
is wild considering some of the things that.
That administration did. Well, I think it probably
comes down to George Bush Sr. because he was
a member of the CIA. He was loosely affiliated.
He was, I'm sorry, the head of the CIA, excuse
me. But he was also loosely affiliated with the
Bay of Pigs operation. So, I mean, and like one
of their favorite things is he said something
about a new world order one time. and they just
cut that little snippet out, and now it's in
every ministry song you could ever possibly listen
to. Yeah, and then I think, wasn't there also
Prescott Bush? He was also like a big fucking
guy. Yeah, they're all fucking crooked as shit.
I think Prescott Bush had something to do. He's
brought up a lot when you watch like JFK assassination,
like conspiracy things. I don't know, but now.
Where were we? Oh, examples of real -world false
flags. Now, the most famous one that most people
point to when they think of false flags would
be the Reichstag fire. Now, the official story
at the time was that a Dutch communist named
Marinus van der Lubbe set fire to the German
parliament building, but most, if not all, historians
believe that... The Nazis either knew about the
plan and let it happen or they orchestrated it
themselves. And the reason for that is that this
incident gave Hitler the perfect excuse to declare
a state of emergency, suspend civil liberties,
and enact the Reichstag fire decree. which was
the keystone that enabled Hitler to rise to total
power. Another one of these false flags that
these Farnockers like to point to as an example
is the Gulf of Tonkin, where the United States
lied about the USS Maddox being attacked by North
Vietnamese boats. And this allowed LBJ to push
through the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which
led us into a full -scale war in Vietnam. Because
at the time, we weren't actually at war with
Vietnam. I think we were just there helping train
and... come up with plans for the South to help
fight the North. But they, they use this as we're
just like, fuck it, dude, we're going full hog
on this. And then it ruined, um, almost everyone's
life. So yeah, you can even go further back to
the USS Maine. Yeah, there was, I was going to
include that, but I feel like that's like revolutionary
warship. No, no, no. That was the Spanish American
war. So that was a post civil war. Oh, that's
still old. Yeah, but it goes with the false flag
thing because of naval warfare. But yeah, and
the media always plays a big role in these false
flag situations. They just gobble it up. Num,
num, num, num, num. They don't even pretend to
have any sort of journalistic integrity. They
just absorb whatever information is given to
them and spit it back out uncritically. Oh yeah,
for sure. And then lastly, as another real world
example, as... Sarge had pointed out earlier,
there's Operation Northwoods. Now, luckily, this
was only a proposed plan by the U .S. Chiefs
of Staff, formulated in 1962, that detailed how
they wanted the U .S. government to commit acts
of terrorism against American civilians to blame
Cuba, including things like hijacking and then
actually and or faking the crashes of commercial
airliners. They wanted to blow up a U .S. ship
in Cuban waters, and they also wanted to stage
attacks in Florida and D .C. Now, luckily, JFK
shot that shit down real quick. He pretty much
took one look at it and was like, you guys are
out of your fucking minds if you think we're
going to do this. And a man on that many painkillers
telling you that you're crazy means you're nuts.
All of this to say that while there have been
examples of these things happening, more often
than not, when you hear someone say something
is a false flag nowadays, it's just conspiracy
theory bullshit. But the more modern ones seem
to be the ones that get the most traction. Things
like Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, January
6th, they have all been labeled a false flag.
These claims are all unfounded and not true,
but a lot of people believe them and they believe
them for a few different reasons. For some, there
is a real precedent. I only gave you like three
examples, but there are tons more of governments
committing false flags. And when governments
have lied and staged things in the past, it fuels
distrust. And a lot of people like, well, if
they did it then, why can't they do it now? Add
in the facts, like, in the fog of a tragedy,
misinformation spreads faster than facts. And
then that misinformation, you know, when it's
clarified by some of the same outlets that spread
it, it seems like it's a cover -up. But it's
basically, you were saying, like, the media,
like, if they catch wind of something, they're
just going to report on it. You saw it with,
like, Sandy Hook. There was the second shooter
in the woods. There's always a fucking second
shooter at these things. It drives me insane.
And then there was a, I think like during the
Boston bombing, I think like the New York post,
someone, they posted the picture of the wrong
guy. Yeah. Just some random dude who happened
to be there. Yeah. Like, and people, and then
when they recant that information, like they're
like, oh, well they're clearly covering something.
It was like, we weren't supposed to know that.
And now they're taking it back. But then there's
also just like cognitive. It's like for some
true believers in these types of conspiracy theories,
it's easier for them to believe that there was
a vast evil plot than to accept that the world
is just fucking absolute chaos. And sometimes
bad shit just happens. Exactly. Exactly. And
if we want to get crazy in, maybe we can do like
a bonus episode sometimes, but I've got some
fucking stories about the Boston Marathon bombing.
Oh, I'm sure you do. You worked it, right? Yeah,
I was in the National Guard at the time, and
we got called up, and there were some things
that happened that I would love to talk about,
but it would probably require its own special
episode. I don't know. Maybe we'll do a Patreon
episode or something. I got a lot of stuff. We
can do another one of these debunked and we can
do it on that. I feel like this debunked thing
is probably better for the more serious types
of conspiracies rather than the aliens ate my
mom. Right, right. Yeah. I don't know that we
really need to debunk Mel's hole all that much.
Yeah. But there is one false flag attack that
I haven't mentioned yet that many to this day
still believe was orchestrated by our government.
One that for a while, I will admit. I believed
to be a conspiracy. Oh, no, Dave. And if I'm
being honest, you know, maybe there's still some
questions I got. You know, maybe the official
narrative. I'm just fucking with you. I have
questions, but all of the questions are, why
are we so bad at protecting ourselves from these
kinds of things? Yeah, and that is the conspiracy
that 9 -11 was an inside job. So today, we're
going to cover the official story of what happened
on 9 -11. the conspiracy theorists version or
versions of events, and then go into the reasons
why it's bullshit. So you ready to dive in? Oh
God. Yeah. Okay. So I'm not going to break down
the official story like in crazy detail. We all
kind of know what happened. I mean, I watched
it live on television. As did I, as did the rest
of the world. Yeah. So we're going to break it
down more into like a who, what, when, where,
and how, just to make it easier to. digest so
the attacks were carried out by 19 hijackers
associated with the radical islamist terrorist
group known as al -qaeda 15 from saudi arabia
and others from the uae egypt and lebanon they
were all living here for months before the attacks
took place they all had like legal they're all
here legally too they all had visas and shit
um and some of them were taking flight lessons
in the u .s i believe in florida Yeah, that's
what I had heard as well. Yeah. Now, on the morning
of the attacks, the hijackers boarded multiple
domestic flights in multiple cities. Flight 11
and 175 out of Boston, Flight 77 out of Washington
Dulles, and Flight 93 out of Newark. And once
in the air, they used box cutters to either kill
or subdue the pilots and crew. They then took
control of the planes and intentionally crashed
them into high -profile targets. So this is how
the attacks played out that day. At 8 .46 a .m.,
Flight 11 hits the North Tower. 9 .03 a .m.,
Flight 175 hits the South Tower. 9 .37 a .m.,
Flight 77 hits the Pentagon. At 9 .59, South
Tower collapses. At 10 .03 a .m., Flight 93 crashes
in Pennsylvania. And then at 10 .28 a .m., North
Tower collapses. And then at 5 .20 p .m., seven
hours after North Tower collapses, World Trade
Center Building 7 collapses. When all is said
and done, an estimated 2 ,977 people lost their
lives in the attacks that day. It was a horrible
tragedy and one we all saw play out in real time
on live TV, which probably fucked up a lot of
us seeing as I was in eighth grade watching it
in my middle school science room. And I feel
like that's not something small children should
be watching, but we all experienced it and lived
it. Yeah, I think it was one of those moments
that was just like absolutely insane. I was in
a... college theater class, like my freshman
year, I was trying to be an acting student. That
didn't take off. My own mistake for going to
Quincy College. Anyway, I didn't even know Quincy
had a college to begin with. Yeah. U of Q. Great
school. I was waiting for my buddy to come into
class and he was late and he was late because
of the attack. So I, of course, snuck out and
went downstairs. And like most good classrooms,
there was a bar directly underneath us. Oh, hell
yeah, dude. And so I went into the bar at, you
know, whatever in the morning it was. And there's
this like grizzled old fucked up dude sitting
behind the bar drinking and watching it on TV.
I went up and told the teacher and she let us
out for the day. But the thing that's crazy is
I had family in New York, so I couldn't get a
hold of my aunt, obviously, because I didn't
have a cell phone at this point. Yeah, and I'm
sure most communications were all fucking jammed
up. Yeah, even more fucked up. My poor dad is
working at the Coast Guard station out in Hull.
Oh, so he wasn't in the Coast Guard, but he was
building their station for them. And it's a secure
facility in the whole nine yards. So they lock
the gates and they're like, sorry, you're not
leaving for a while. Yeah. And so my father is
standing on like the observation deck of this
base, watching the skyline of Boston with the
commander of the post. And they literally just
waiting for something to happen. The boats are
all scrambled. They're all out in Mass Bay. Absolute
insanity. And then I, of course. again, living
in Quincy right near Logan Airport, planes were
always flying over my house. And it was the first
time in my life I can remember not seeing one
plane for like three days, except for fighter
jets from Cape Cod. Yeah, they shut that shit
down real quick. Air travel was suspended almost
immediately. Absolutely nuts. So in the 9 -11
commissions report, which it took them a while
to do, but... The towers, they say that they
collapsed due to a bunch of factors happening
all at once. For starters, the plane severed
several support columns and dislodged fireproofing
on the steel structures. Now, the jet fuel mixed
with office material, paper, wooden desks, carpet,
all that shit, it ignited massive fires. The
heat weakened the floor trusses, which caused
sagging and pulled in the exterior walls. Unable
to support the weight of the upper floors, they
collapsed downwards, creating a sort of domino
effect known as progressive structural failure,
a .k .a. a pancake collapse. That's why you see
it kind of just going down floor by floor. As
for Building 7's collapse, it was hit by debris
from the North Tower collapsing, which started
multiple fires across multiple floors. And because
of just the absolute carnage going on around
it, firefighters couldn't extinguish the fires
due to waterline damages that occurred. The fires
got so hot that they weakened internal column
number 79, triggering a cascading failure and
eventually the collapse of the entire building.
The 9 -11 Commission investigation report determined
that no, this wasn't an inside job and there
wasn't any concrete foreknowledge that this attack
was going to happen. They said that the attack
was able to be carried out due to quote -unquote
a failure of imagination as well as interagency
dysfunction. Pretty much the FBI, the CIA, FAA,
NORAD, none of them spoke to each other before
any of this, especially about any concerns they
may have had about potential attacks, because
each agency wanted to be the one to fucking,
you know, solve it, I guess. And because of that,
new security protocols were created, including
the Patriot Act, the Department of Homeland Security
was created right after this, and also enhanced
TSA screenings. So, in a nutshell... The official
story is that 9 -11 was a shockingly successful
act of terrorism by a small, well -organized
extremist group. There was no bombs, no missiles,
no inside job, just bureaucratic failures, bad
intel sharing, and a wildly simple plan that
exploited the U .S.'s peacetime systems. Funny
story. Before you continue, a lack of imagination
is also why the D .C. movies never take off.
Really poorly written. I mean, I liked the first
Superman. I think that was the only one that
I really... The first one was good. And Suicide,
the second Suicide Squad with James Cutton was
pretty good. Yeah, that was pretty good. But
yeah, so basically all those factors combined
are what pretty much allowed 9 -11 to happen.
Or is that what they want us to think? That is
what they want you to think. Okay. No. All right.
So you're ready to dive into what some of these
conspiracy nuts. Why they think this might have
been an inside job. Please tell me what everyone's
uncle talks about after they get drunk at Thanksgiving.
One of the most popular arguments by conspiracy
theorists that 9 -11 didn't happen as we have
been told is the how and why the towers and Building
7 collapsed the way they did. They claim that
both the towers and Building 7 were not brought
down solely by the impact of the planes and the
fires that followed, but instead they were subjected
to controlled demolition using pre -planted explosives.
Now, why do they think this? Well, proponents
of this theory raise some pretty decent points
on the matter, Sarge. First, there's the way
the buildings fell. The towers appear to fall
straight down at almost near freefall speed,
something you would typically see with controlled
demolition. There are also reports of molten
metal found in the debris, which suggests that
there were temperatures higher than those achievable
by jet fuel fires. Then there is the fact that
witnesses, including firefighters and first responders,
reported hearing explosions before and during
the collapse. Then a 2009 study done on some
of the dust samples from the World Trade Center
site claimed that they found nanothermite particles,
suggesting the use of advanced explosives. Yeah,
that's the right. Yeah. Quick question. Any of
these folks who said that it was a controlled
demolition? They were all structural engineers,
right? Like they had gone to many years of educational
training to come up with such a brilliant and
insightful argument. Sure. Why not? Okay. Okay.
Maybe. Yeah. No, it sounds like these Mountain
Dew aficionados are probably very highly educated
MIT engineers. They usually are. It's the same
way that the I Do My Own Research people hate
vaccines. Lord knows Marjorie Taylor Greene is
probably one of the leading minds of our generation.
Then there's Building 7. People fucking love
to bring up Building 7 when they talk about 9
-11 conspiracies. Now, it is kind of weird. Building
7, it did collapse seven hours after the initial
attack, and it was never hit by a plane. And
only suffered from a few fires. It just happened
to collapse in a way that some would argue. Just
a few fires. Yeah, just a few fires. It collapsed
the same way that some would argue is consistent
with controlled demolition. Very suspicious,
Sarge. Very suspicious. Yeah. If you spend most
of your time drinking Mountain Dew. Yeah, then
the. If your diet is mostly Taco Bell, then you
would find this extremely suspicious. It's, you
know, it's suspicious. Okay. Mountain Dew. It's
going to be a long night. Then we got the Pentagon.
Now, the claim is that Flight 77 did not, in
fact, crash into the Pentagon, but it was actually
struck by a missile. Now, they believe this to
be the case for a few different reasons. One,
the impact hole on the Pentagon is relatively
small for what would you expect to be left behind
after a fucking Boeing 757 smashes into it. Then
there's also the lack of any debris. Eyewitnesses
and first responders all reported minimal visible
wreckage from Flight 77 at the crash. And it's
this absence of like large aircraft parts like
the wings and tail sections that suggest a massive
Boeing 757 did not crash into the Pentagon. Another
piece of evidence is how the quote unquote plane
hit. hit the building. The aircraft that hit
it is said to have performed a descending 270
degree turn at high speed descending to just
above ground level to strike the building. Something
that a couple of dudes who took minimal flight
lessons at a Florida flight school could never
have pulled off. That's only because you haven't
seen me attempt to use a flight simulator. That's
true. There's also very limited There's also
like a very limited amount of surveillance footage
or any footage at all of the quote unquote plane
hitting the Pentagon. Only a few frames of security
footage have ever been released and you don't
really see much, which kind of gives off the
appearance that they're withholding the footage
because it contradicts with the official narrative.
As a conspiracy theorist would say, that's not
coming from me. Well, I'll say this. I know I'm
being a smartass and I'm being super sarcastic,
but I'll tell you. The only leg that the conspiracy
theorists have to stand on are the Pentagon circumstances.
Like, it is kind of fucking crazy. Yeah. Like,
if you just look at it and you uncritically just
view the carnage that happened afterwards, like,
yeah, of course. All of us had questions. Yeah.
Everyone had questions about the Pentagon. It's
very fucking weird looking. Yeah, because it's
just a hole. Still don't believe it's a conspiracy
theory. It's just a hole. Yeah, it's just a big
butthole in the side of the Pentagon. And I didn't
put this in there, but the section of the Pentagon
that the plane quote unquote hit. I'm just going
to keep saying quote unquote plane because I
think it's really funny. That's fine. It was
the only section that had just been retrofitted
to withstand. a missile slash uh that's not good
yeah it doesn't look great nope so i can see
the pentagon is the only time where i'm like
i can see where you might think this is weird
exactly yeah i do agree with that um but here's
the thing sarge there's a million more other
different stupid conspiracy theories that are
right going around but what but really like why
would the u .s need to stage attack on its own
Soil. Well, the same reason that America really
does anything. It's for profit. Naturally. Obviously.
But in order to profit from an attack like this,
you need the people to be for whatever it is
you plan to profit from. Now, this is where the
new Pearl Harbor hypothesis comes in. Some theorists
think that factions within the U .S. government
orchestrated the 9 -11 attacks to galvanize public
support for military intervention abroad, similar
to how... The attack on Pearl Harbor led to the
U .S. involvement in World War II. The evidence
for this comes from a document titled Rebuilding
America's Defenses by the Project for the New
American Century that mentions the need for a
quote -unquote catastrophic and catalyzing event
like a new Pearl Harbor. And well... The attacks
did provide us with a pretty good pretext for
the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which ended
up benefiting a lot of defense contractors and
oil companies. And then with the rapid passing
of the Patriot Act and the awarding of military
contracts to companies like Halliburton, one
could see this as evidence of financial motives
for them to do this attack. Yeah, I don't actually
refute any of that. I think there was a lot of
shenanigans. with how contracts were awarded.
Oh, for sure. The entire attack on Iraq, a war
I fought in, by the way. Yeah. Kind of didn't
make a ton of sense, even to me as I was there.
Yeah, because they had nothing to do with it,
but we used 9 -11 as a pretext to go there. So
it is a motive. Now, this is also not mentioning
that there was some unusual... unusual stock
market activities like put options on airlines
and insurance companies before 9 -11. So some
could argue that these financial moves indicated
that certain individuals or companies had prior
knowledge of the attacks and were looking to
profit from them. There's also the claim that.
The U .S. intelligence agencies had prior knowledge
of the attacks but failed to act or were prevented
from acting, with the U .S. citing missed warnings
from foreign governments and internal memos,
like the bin Laden determined to strike U .S.
briefing. They say that the lack of preventative
measures indicates complicity in the attacks,
which, I mean, that's here nor there. I feel
like we don't act on a lot of things, and bin
Laden was always trying to attack the U .S.,
so... He already did it. What was the 95? When
was the first? I thought was it 98 or was it
95? It was during Clinton's term. They blew up
the moving van. Yeah, it was the basement. Yeah,
in the basement of the World Trade Center. Fun
fact, the Condi Rice quote, Bin Laden determined
to attack inside America is also in a ministry
song. Ministry just fucking loves. They love
conspiracy theories. Al Jorgensen is one of my
favorite musicians of all time, but he has a
lot of fun theories. Theorists also suggest that
with how quickly the debris was moved from all
the crash sites and destroyed and or shipped
off, that they were trying to hide and or destroy
any evidence of the government's crimes against
its own peoples. Now, all of these... There's
so much more that I didn't even touch on. The
fact that the US and NORAD were also conducting,
they were doing like war games on 9 -11 that
pretty much almost kind of played out the same
way as 9 -11, which is pretty crazy. But it also
caused a lot of confusion when the actual attacks
were happening. Now, some people think that was
deliberate. I don't know, but it is kind of crazy
that they were doing war games that were basically
9 -11 on 9 -11. during that's unfortunate yeah
not fortunate decision but also that kind of
calls into question the fucking lack of imagination
they imagined it it just happened to be on the
day that it actually happened which you would
think that they would want to do it a little
bit sooner than that um but yeah and there's
a whole bunch of other little shit like that
that um you know we didn't cover so you want
to like kind of go over some of these claims
and see why they're kind of stupid I mean, we're
doing it throughout it, but all right. So first
is the controlled demolition of the twin towers
in the World Trade Center. Again, the claim is
that the World Trade Center buildings were brought
down by pre -planted explosives in a controlled
demolition. Well, that's not really how it happens.
Yeah. Now, the National Institute of Standards
and Technology concluded that the collapse of
the Twin Towers were due to the impact of the
hijacked planes that severed critical columns
and dislodged fireproofing. Combined with the
ensuing fires, this weakened the remaining structure
and caused it to collapse. As far as World Trade
Center 7, what they found out is that the fires
ignited by debris from the collapse of the nearby
towers led to the failure of a critical column,
column number 79, resulting in the building's
collapse. They found no evidence of explosives,
and that's that. They just fucking collapsed,
man. Well, I mean, when you think about it, I'm
sure a ton of debris hit Building 7. Oh, yeah.
But also you have to think of the amount of seismic
activity that would happen when an entire, when
two entire hundred floor buildings collapse.
Yeah. Like when you're a tiny building right
next door, of course you're going to fucking
crumble too eventually. And there were fires
on that building as well. Yeah, it was. The tower's
collapsing to me. There was always a weird one.
It's like, that's just what happens. Yeah, did
they fall kind of neat? Yeah, sure. But like,
what is neat for a building? So it's interesting
that you mentioned this because I looked something
up. So when you said they fell kind of straight
down, I remember hearing a story about a department
store that collapsed in South Korea. It's called
the Supong or the Supong department store. And
they had air conditioners on the roof that they
had moved from one side to the other because
people in the neighborhood were complaining.
Poorly built mall, to be fair, to the 9 -11 conspiracy
theorists. But the vibrations from the air conditioners
actually caused the south part of the department
store to pancake crumble. Much like 9 -11, when
you think about it, the whole reason those buildings
pancaked is because the planes flew in, they
weakened the structural integrity of the floors
they had blown through, and then the weight of
the top just kept falling. The building was designed
to hold some of that weight, but not like...
smacking down on top of it yeah it's basically
like i said it was the domino effect like it's
just like one floor hit another floor hit another
floor hit another floor and the reason why you
were seeing because if you ever see footage of
the the towers collapsing like below where the
actual collapse is happening you'll see like
puffs of smoke coming out of the building that's
floors from above hitting the floor below it
as like the whole structure like it's and blowing
out yeah they weren't detonation charges or anything
like that first of all because you wouldn't you
wouldn't see those on the outside of the building
the structure most of the structural shit is
on the inside like you wouldn't see it puff out
but that's you know they're all fucking stupid
but yeah so investigators found no physical evidence
of explosives or incendiary devices in the debris
like the nanophosphate wherever the fuck it was
now Let's move on to the Pentagon. Now, again,
the theory is that the Pentagon was not struck
by American Airlines Flight 77, but by a missile
or maybe even possibly like a drone strike. Here's
the thing, though. Numerous eyewitnesses reported
seeing a commercial airliner approach and crash
into the Pentagon. It's been a pretty major city.
People are going to fucking see that shit. They're
going to hear it, too. And as far as they saying
that there's no debris, well... Wreckage from
Flight 77, including landing gear, engines, like
all of those were recovered from the crash site
pretty early on. They were just going to leave
that shit there. Yeah. You know what I mean?
The FAA has to reconstruct the planes to find
out why they broke. Yeah. And also the fact that
they found flight data records and the cockpit
voice recorders, like they found the black boxes
and all of it was consistent with Flight 77's
trajectory and impact. Um, as far as government
foreknowledge and inside job allegations, like
wait, before we continue on, I just got, I got
one thing to say about the plane hitting and
the fact that, you know, you didn't see the wings
or anything. Planes are made of fucking hopes
and dreams. Yeah. They make planes out of fucking
aluminum. It has to be the lightest thing possible
in order for it to stay aloft. Yeah. So when
a plane. crashes into the ground it disintegrates
it fucking falls apart because it's made out
of nothing aluminum like the aluminum on a plane
is wildly thin yeah it's it's basically disintegrates
into a giant concrete fucking military installation
you're not going to have much left the wings
are always like the first thing to come off a
plane when it crashes Yeah, like you wouldn't
see like, like people were expecting because
they guess that you see a plane shaped. Yeah,
that's what they were saying is that so you got
the hole where like the fuselage hit obviously,
but the wings are it's not going to be like when
Wile E. Coyote runs through a wall. It's not
going to be a perfect imprint of anything like
exactly. You saw it in the Twin Towers when the
planes hit because that's glass. It's obviously
good. Of course, you know what I mean? Like you're
not going to see it in a reinforced. military
highly secure military building that again was
reinforced to withstand something like this like
it's not exactly the there's the wings of a plane
do not have the same structural integrity as
a military building let's just put it that way
also don't forget this plane had just taken off
and it was full of jet fuel which is wildly explosive
now you're going to smash that into a building
one thing i didn't mention that but i'm sure
everyone already knew is that all these attacks
happened on the east coast all the planes came
from the east coast they were going all the way
to the west coast so they were fully fueled up
with yeah thousands of gallons of jet fuel as
soon as they it was all by design yeah now as
far as the whole like insider knowledge like
the government for knowledge and inside job allegations
uh well there were indications of potential terrorist
threats but the intelligence was not specific
enough to predict the exact nature timing or
targets of the attacks but we also you know i
mean like but we get fucking imminent attack
warnings probably daily with little to zero information
so for them to see like oh a potential terrorist
threat if you what are you gonna do you have
to investigate it and if they didn't have time
enough time it's just Sometimes shit happens.
It falls through the cracks. It's not like they
didn't try. If you want to watch a really good
documentary, the new Osama bin Laden documentary
on Netflix is really good where they actually
go through all this. They knew something was
going to happen. They knew it was probably going
to involve New York, maybe even planes, but so
much details were left out and scattered that
there was no way for them to predict this shit
was going to happen because this is an insane
fucking plan. The 9 -11 Commission found no evidence
that the U .S. government or senior officials
had foreknowledge of the attacks or were involved
in the planning of it. Also, yeah, no, keep going.
Yeah, but also it's just like the complexity
of a conspiracy theory like this. You know what
I mean? Like the scale and secrecy required for
such an operation would have involved numerous
individuals increasing the likelihood of leaks
or whistleblowers. None that have ever like credibly
emerged. You know what I mean? Like he probably
got the mathematical equation that some scientists,
I think at Oxford university came up with in
England. And essentially the more people you
add to a conspiracy theory, the less possible
it is to keep that a secret. So like even adding
maybe five people to a conspiracy theory exponentially
increases the likelihood that someone is going
to tell someone else. Yeah. Like the scale. that
this would have to be at not even just this one
any conspiracy like fucking like with like sandy
hooker the boss obama with like fucking crisis
actors and all that shit like you're telling
me that like that person's gonna be on tv talking
about their experience and no like someone from
fucking wisconsin's be like hey that's fucking
steve that's not this guy's name i knew him from
high you mean like You can't have something so.
Not to mention the fact you're expecting an actor
not to put something like that on their resume.
Fuck you. It's going to be on their IMDB page.
Yeah. Well, yeah. Like if you think about any
of these conspiracies for longer than five seconds
and not even about like the actual, like the,
the, just the complexity of a conspiracy theory
like this or any other, like there's, it's not
possible. There's so many factors involved that
you just can't. You're out of your mind. Yeah.
Wildly out of your mind. As far as the insider
trading and financial anomalies that we talked
about, the stock market, the Securities and Exchange
Commission and other regulatory agencies, they
did conduct their own investigations and found
that no evidence of insider trading was related
to the 9 -11 attacks. Some of the trading patterns
were consistent with normal market behavior and
not necessarily indicative of foreknowledge of
an attack. And then as far as like the suppression
of evidence and lack of transparency, the reason
why the debris was removed so quickly was mostly
for like rescue. efforts and recovery operations.
Like you can't just leave a bunch of building
on top of someone and expect to find them alive
days later. You got to get that shit out of there.
Well, they also probably kind of want to know
what the fuck happened. Yeah. So they got to
recover the flight data and all that shit. Yeah.
So materials were documented and analyzed by
investigators during the process at all the,
all the sites, ground zero plus the Pentagon,
Pennsylvania, everything. And then as far as
like the limited, release of footage, particularly
from the Pentagon that was due to security concerns.
It's a fucking highly classified. You can just
fucking, there's not a lot of cameras just pointed
at it. You know what I mean? Weirdly a big deal
for the government. However, available footage
and eyewitness accounts corroborate the official
story. Now, I mean, you know what guys come here,
come here. I like to think I'm a relatively intelligent
human being. Yeah. And when I hear a conspiracy
theory, I get a little excited. I'm like, oh,
I know something that other people don't know.
And I hear the evidence and I'm like, that makes
a lot of sense. That's really brilliant. But
then I remember I brought some food in from grocery
shopping and I had some ice cream. And I had
placed the ice cream on the counter in my kitchen
and I had placed my keys in the freezer. And
that made me. realize that I'm a fucking moron.
Most of us are fucking morons. So, if you didn't
go to college and get this degree in this specific
thing, or you didn't spend the better part of
your life studying structural engineering, airplane
mechanics, physics, or literally anything, you're
an idiot. In this situation, no matter how smart
you think you are, if you don't actually have
any kind of education, including like just going
to the right library and reading about this stuff.
You know, like, shut the fuck up. You're dumb
and you don't know what you're talking about.
Why would the United States government crash
a plane into the World Trade Center towers like
planes? Excuse me. And then into the Pentagon
and into a field in Pennsylvania. Don't you think
the 3 ,000 people who died in the World Trade
Centers were enough? And why would they suspiciously
crash one into the Pentagon and leave just a
hole and not a plane -shaped hole so that you
smooth brains out there can be like, whoa, it's
shaped like an airplane. Must have been an airplane.
You know what I mean? So just like think for
like four seconds. What's the benefit of this?
Do you really think it would make a lot of sense
to crash two extra planes after you've already
brought down the two most recognizable buildings
in the United States? You fucking morons. Okay.
Sorry, I'm done. Sarge, it was for financial...
Yeah, yeah. I'm sure that all the money they
got from that was worth the 20 fucking years
of war we went into because of it. Yeah. Look
at Black Rock. Is that a thing? Black Rock's
a thing, right? They make tons of money, I think,
right? My whole theory on this is there were
shenanigans, but it was all just typical rich
people bullshit. Yeah, but the shenanigans happened.
post after the attacks yes obviously all opportunistic
one of the big things that i kept hearing about
bin laden did have family in the united states
yes and they did fly bin laden's family out of
the united states really fast well here's the
thing about bin laden so he comes from a very
rich family but he's the only one in his family
that turned into a radical fucking crazy Everyone
else is pretty fucking normal doing their normal
everyday shit. That apple fell way far down from
the tree. Like, that tree was on a cliff. Yeah.
And the apple fell all the way down into the
valley. It didn't just fall where the tree was.
He's a fucking loony tune. Yeah, so the fact
that the Bin Ladens were immediately escorted
out of the country right after that makes way
sense. That's not suspicious to me at all. In
fact, I'm guaranteeing some of our listeners
have a moron relative. And if their moron relative
did something stupid, they're not going to be
like, good for you. Smart move. You're going
to be like, fly me the fuck out of this country
so that this doesn't blow back on me. Exactly.
So in conclusion. Extensive investigations by
independent experts, government agencies, and
scientific organizations have addressed and refuted
the major conspiracy theories surrounding the
9 -11 attacks. The consensus among these investigations
supports the conclusion that the attacks were
carried out by Al -Qaeda terrorists with no credible
evidence supporting claims of controlled demolitions,
missile strikes, or government complicity. So
there you have it, Sarge. That is 9 -11 conspiracy
and 9 -11 debunked. All within the hour. I mean,
we probably could have gone further into it,
but I feel like if you have any sort of critical
thinking skills, I think this is enough for you.
But you know, there's going to be people out
there that are like, well, you didn't consider
this. Here's the thing though. I did. And you're
wrong. So I do have a, I do have like a weird,
when, when did the first plane crash? What time
was it? So the first plane hit a flight 11 hit
the North tower at 8 46 AM. Okay. So I had a
pocket watch because I am a fucking nerd. And
I was on the red line going to school at U of
Q, Quincy College, the finest educational facility
aside from the two high schools, four middle
schools, and eight elementary schools in Quincy,
Massachusetts. And my pocket watch stopped. at
8 45 in the morning so that's a thing that that
happened to me and and if that happened why it
had to be a conspiracy yeah i mean you see how
stupid these things sound when you say them out
loud well no here's the thing so the globalists
uh controlled control stopped my control time
and they were trying to give you foreknowledge
of the attack. I mean, it was only by a minute,
but you could have done a lot of damage to Wall
Street in that one minute if you just started
fucking buying and selling. In my defense, I
was smoking a lot of weed at the time, and so
I did for a moment think to myself, it was like
a couple of days, I was like, dude, look at this.
It's up to 8 .45, and everybody's like, didn't
it happen at like 9 a .m.? Your watch. Is the
reason why 9 -11 happened. If it had kept going,
Butterfly Effect, what if your watch hadn't have
stopped? Could have been different. Everything
could have been different. That's a really good
call. Is that a good call? Someone call Ashton
Kutcher. We're making Butterfly Effect 2. See
if Ethan Supley is available. He's all jacked
now. It's going to be a very different movie.
All right. Sorry. So any last thoughts, questions,
concerns? I mean, there's a lot. 9 -11 was not
an inside job. And if you still believe that
in this day and age, maybe don't breed. So here's
the thing, too, is that so there's a really famous
9 -11 conspiracy documentary called Loose Change.
I don't know if you're familiar with it. I am
because they had to make a second one after all
of the evidence they presented in the first one
got refuted yeah well here's the thing they also
made a third and a fourth because oh no I didn't
know they made yeah they made a few iterations
of that movie and the reason why is because desperate
the reason why is because like you said all of
it just keeps keeps getting refuted and not just
like questionable for conspiracy like it was
to the point where even conspiracy theorists
had to be like We can't argue this anymore. Like
we're going to look too insane. Yeah. So there
you have it, everyone. That is a, that's a, our
first episode of debunked in the series that
we'll, we'll do some more of these periodically.
Probably, like I said, probably more for like
the more serious conspiracy theories. Cause we
don't, we don't need to break down fucking. I
don't know, the Pendragon plot. That's just goofy
shit. That's just more fun to make fun of. But
I feel like sometimes these kind of hurt people.
Yeah, they really do. But there you have it,
Sarge. 9 -11. This was great. This was a great
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You can burn down the X agency headquarters in
Minecraft. It's funny to me because I know a
guy who was in, I don't think he's in there anymore,
but we were in the army together. It's, it's
not his fault. Yeah. I'm probably going to edit
out the burning down a building part, but I mean,
if you want, you know, you should bleep it. be
way better if you just bleep it i'll see what
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a thing I do for a couple of weeks. But I think
with that out of the way, that was a fun episode.
There's so much more we could have covered, but
I feel like we hit all the important ones. We
could have gotten pretty far into the weeds,
so I'm kind of glad we didn't go too far. We
stopped there. All right. But out of the way,
sorry, do you want to say goodbye and a little
bit to the audience? Audience, goodbye, and I
love you.