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You are now listening to Cryptid Cocktail Party

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Hey everybody! Welcome back to another episode

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of Cryptid Cocktail Party, a show where we have

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a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive

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into the unknown. I'm your host Dave, joined

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as always by my wonderful co -host Sarge. How's

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it going Sarge? I'm fucking doing great! Even

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though it's Memorial Day weekend and we're supposed

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to be sad, but I'm doing good otherwise. I feel

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like people don't understand what Memorial Day

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is about. So I work with a couple veterans and...

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uh before the the weekend uh there's a lot of

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people saying like oh thank you for your service

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and then they'd be like what the fuck are you

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talking about like that's not what that's veterans

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day that's not what this day is uh because it's

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about people who have passed and or prisoners

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of war so right one of my son's teachers back

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in the day taught him the difference between

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memorial day and veterans day and uh so For like

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the rest of the summer, my son just kept saying

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to me, I'm glad you didn't die in the war. And

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just like out of nowhere. And I'd be like, thanks,

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bud. Me too. Now, was he old enough to know that

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you went to war when you went to war? Was he

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even born at that point? Yeah, like he kind of

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had an idea of what a veteran was. And this teacher

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was like trying to do the right thing by explaining

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that, you know, what Memorial Day is and like

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why you don't say happy Memorial Day. Yeah. So

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my, you know, he was like six at the time and

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he just like very serious face would like put

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his hand on my arm and be like, dad, I'm really

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glad you didn't die. Over and over again. I'm

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like, all right. That's the one time when I'd

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be like, all right, school, calm down. Like,

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yeah. Yeah. Well, like I also didn't do a great

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job of explaining it. Cause I'm trying to use

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like age appropriate language. Like the last

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thing on earth I want is for my kid to know I

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could have died in a war, you know? But was he

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born when you were at war? No, he was born the

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year I came home. So I can't, well, he was born,

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like I came home at the end of 2010 and he was

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born. uh in 2011 so he did never knew me so what

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the he's worried about nothing right he never

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knew about combat sarge you know he he just knew

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that i like to shout at traffic at times and

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that's because of combat okay so i guess that's

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a good segue into what we're going to be talking

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about today uh so i hope so it's memorial day

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uh or at least the day this comes out it will

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be memorial day so i figured we should do something

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military related Seems only... I like that idea.

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It seems right, I feel. Now, I don't know shit

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about war or war zones, and I for sure don't

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fucking know about any of the tech he used during

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wars, so I'm sure that hopefully you can fill

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in any gaps. A lot of Xbox. Is it the drone strikes

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or just in general? It's a lot of Xbox in...

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Yeah. Yeah, for the most part. Drone strikes,

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Call of Duty. Well, all I'm saying is that you

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might be able to fill in any gaps. In my knowledge,

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as we navigate. I can probably help with that.

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But what I do know about is demons, goblins,

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ghouls. And I know that the absolute worst place

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to potentially see a demon, goblin, or a ghoul

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would probably, it probably would have been like

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Vietnam, I'm assuming. Probably the worst place

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to see any of those things. Or anytime you attend

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a military ball and all of the privates have

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been drinking since noon. They all turn into

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goblins. Not great. Sounds bad. So, so I guess

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Sarge. A lot of property damage. Yeah. So the

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first question of my episode of not my episode,

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but our episode to you would be, what do you

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know about night vision? Cause the only thing

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I know about night vision is ghost hunters and

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it's a green and it makes your eyes look spooky.

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Yeah. Yeah. I, I am. I had to wear nods a couple

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of times in real life. We had a one night mission.

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We were driving on the highway. And so I had

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my night vision goggles on periodically just

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so I could like see out into a field. It is really

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fucking cool and weird. We played with them all

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the time. Honestly, I had a lot of fun with my

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night vision goggles. I feel like you, I feel

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like you would, right. You would, you would,

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you would play with them. Right. Like, I feel

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like, yeah, of course. Yeah. I mean, the thing

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is like you soldiers, especially in a war zone,

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like you have your laptops, you can watch movies

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and stuff and you can play video games and stuff,

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but like you eventually get to a point. Will

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you revert back to your, like, childhood years

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and you just start playing weird games? Yeah.

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Like, smacking each other in the balls for no

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reason. Well, obviously. You get bored, I would

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assume. Yeah. And we had, so we had night vision

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goggles, and I don't remember why we didn't always

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do this, but the base I was on, the lights were

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out all the time because at night they were worried

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if we had the base lights on, they would mortar

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us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it was a small

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base, so we didn't have, like, the... Counter

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defense when they would shoot the motors it shoots

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like these blast of shrapnel up And then the

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motors would hit that and blow up anyway like

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what Air Force one has kind of thing yeah So

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instead of putting on my nods to go pee at like

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2 in the morning I would just wake up go stand

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outside until my eyes adjusted to the darkness

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and then walk to the toilet and one night I did

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that and I felt like something was near me like

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a person was nearby, but I couldn't see anything

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Yeah, it was pretty scary for a minute. And then

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my eyes adjusted and I looked over to see the

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ass of a donkey. Who had snuck through the gate

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on the base, which didn't make me feel great

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because how did I was going to ask? I was going

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to ask how did the dog? It was a base donkey

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or did it show up unannounced? He just snuck

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through the gate. Like, I think probably what

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happened is like the guards didn't see a threat.

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It was just a donkey. They were like, fuck it.

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We'll worry about it later. Like, that's pretty

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fun. You can't just shoot it, you know? And so

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I am standing waiting to pee and I look over.

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And I see, like, the tail swish. I'm like, oh,

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fuck, I'm standing right behind a donkey. I,

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like, ran out of the way real quick because I

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didn't want him to kick me. But then I just couldn't

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stop laughing that there was just a donkey hanging

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out next to my hut. That's pretty funny. And

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so I woke up my teammate. I was like, Murphy,

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Murphy, you got to see this. And so we're standing

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in the doorway where there's, like, a little

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bit of light kind of eking out. And he's like,

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is that a fucking donkey? Like, how the fuck

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did that get through the gate? And I'm like,

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I don't know, but I'm sleeping with my rifle

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tonight because I don't know who's coming behind

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it. Yeah, so no one checked this donkey to make

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sure its ass wasn't, like, jam -packed with C4.

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They were just like, eh, well, you know, that

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one thing happened, so why, like... You know,

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it's funny you say that, again, derailing the

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show, but we were driving across a bridge one

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day, and the Iraqis had been known to put IEDs

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inside of dead animals. And so one day we're

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driving down, we're driving across this bridge

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and there's a dead, I think it was a goat, a

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dead goat on the bridge. And for some reason

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we had to stop and I looked down and realized

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that there's wires sticking out of the goat's

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mouth. Well, to be fair, goats are known to eat.

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It's pretty rare when they eat debt cord, though,

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you know? Yeah, but they eat almost everything.

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So maybe, hear me out, maybe there was an IED

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exposed on the ground and the goat was like,

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what is this? And then died immediately. Exactly.

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It's got to be toxic. I can't imagine that explosives

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are. Yeah, it's not good for you. So we determined

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that they probably were trying to set up an IED.

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And then they saw us coming and they like ran

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away. But yeah, there was a goat with wires like

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red wires hanging out of its mouth. So we called

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the the Iraqi army's explosive ordnance people,

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because by that point in the war, they were kind

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of handling all that shit. And we just took off.

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We were like, I'm not sticking around for this

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thing. Now, not to be gross, but did you snap

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a photo of that? Can I have that photo? Because

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that sounds funny. No, no, I didn't think to

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take a picture of it. I probably should have.

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We were just trying to get out of there at that

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point. Cause I'm like, uh, guys, it's got wires.

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Like we should go. And then we just drove off.

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I feel like if you're in any, any high stakes

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danger area and you go, there's wires out of

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something that probably shouldn't have wires

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coming out of it. You should probably just slowly

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back. Yeah. Yeah. You get to a point where you

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kind of recognize that things might not be great.

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Like we had a, we had a mission where we, Got

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a lot of really shady Intel right before we,

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we left. And I think we got to the gate and we

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were like, no, fuck it. We're not going out.

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This is bad news. This has got bad news written

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all over it. You kind of get the spidey senses

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and you don't want to go anywhere anyway. Anyways.

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So yeah, I've used night vision goggles. That's

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what we were talking about. This whole episode

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is about that. All right. So have you ever heard

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of a red night vision goggle? Like not, not infrared,

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but red. No. Oh, Sarge. This is the song that

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every veteran loves, just to be clear. Like,

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this is our music. We're going to be a non -baby

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today. We're going to fucking be a non -baby!

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Oh, God, I'm just already picturing the helicopters

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flying overhead. is that a good how do you shoot

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women and children easy you just don't lead them

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as much all right so for years pretty much ever

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since i have been on the internet there's been

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rumors or i guess like the best way to describe

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it is like urgent urban legends uh that in 1965

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during the vietnam war the u .s government designed

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and built red night vision goggles for use during

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the war So why red? Well, the theory was that,

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or at least according to Mark Anthony, an Oxford

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-educated attorney slash self -proclaimed world

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-renowned psychic medium slash and guest on Coast

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to Coast AM, he said that the red night vision

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goggles allowed the soldier's eyes to maintain

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daylight sensitivity, and it would be easier

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for them to switch from day to night vision because

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red light doesn't force the eyes to have, like,

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it doesn't. it doesn't force them to have to

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like adapt to low light conditions. Can confirm.

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I use my red light all the time. And I, and again,

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I assume it's the same reason that they use these

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red lights, like in, in military, like helicopters.

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I, you see like a, you watch a movie. I think

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like even like in a, what's my favorite movie

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of all time. Predator. Maybe I was thinking like

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the rock. Yeah. Yeah. Like, no, but like, I think

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in predator, there was a scene where they were

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in the helicopters at night and they did the

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same thing. I can't, I think nowadays they all

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wear night vision, but I think back then they

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did. They did use red light. So the red light's

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not like a movie thing. That's like a whole.

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No, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. I mean,

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I didn't fly in helicopters at night, but I'm

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pretty, I'm almost 100 % sure they use red lights

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because I know that they use them in airborne.

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When the airborne troops who do night jumps,

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I'm almost certain they use the red lights. Just

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got to finish watching Black Sails. The other

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thing I can think of is that it's like pirates

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when they do the eye patch thing where you put

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a patch over one eye and then you switch it when

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you go below deck so that way you can see. I

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heard that too. Yeah, it protects. Because your

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night vision is a finite resource, it takes some

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time for your eyes to adjust, and so it's much

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easier to just cover the eye. And a special forces

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guy that I met who was big, who, like, was in

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SF in the 70s and 80s, he told us stories about

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going behind the lines in another country that

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we're not allowed to talk about. Russia! And

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he said that he used to keep one eye closed when

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he would see, like, white light or, you know,

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any other colored light. he would keep one eye

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closed to protect his ability to see, uh, when

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ambient light, when the lights were gone. Okay.

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That makes sense. Yeah. So, so anyways, it's,

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it seems legit. Like I'm not an optometrist and

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I totally legit. Yeah. I don't want to be bothered

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to learn how different lights affect the eye.

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So I didn't look at any of it up. I use it when

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I go night hiking and I can see great after I

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turn off the red light, I can still pick up the

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ambient light. So I can promise you it works.

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All right. So, so these new goggles, supposedly,

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were issued to soldiers in Vietnam in 1965. It

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was mostly to newborn... Newborn? The newborn

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brigade. It was mostly to airborne troops, special

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forces, and recon units. And the thing about

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these goggles is that just... Just after a week

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of this new technology being in the field, shit

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started to get really weird. I can only imagine.

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Yeah. In the July 8th, 2023 episode of Coast

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to Coast AM, Mark Anthony went on and talked

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about how after the first week, the men who were

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issued these goggles started acting pretty strange.

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They started talking about things that no one

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else but them could see. And for some reason,

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they were fixated at staring at the jungle canopy

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and the treetops. Then they started having behavioral

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and discipline issues and eventually started

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fighting amongst themselves. Well, Charlie's

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in the trees, so you have to be careful about

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that. So it's not like a great first week or

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two that this whole new thing was being rolled

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out. I feel like this exact thing happened right

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after the release of the Nintendo Virtual Boy.

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Do you remember that thing? yes yes he was like

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all red lights wasn't it yeah so real quick for

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those too young to remember this the Nintendo

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Virtual Boy was basically a pair of goggles that

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sat on a tripod and it had a like a controller

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connected to it and it was supposed to be like

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the 1995 version of virtual reality kind of like

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it was fully 3D rendered like characters and

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shit yeah but it was like Tron yeah but the display

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was like a monochromatic red it was red and black

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so it was like a bright red light beaming onto

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your corneas and i i don't know if this is true

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but i genuinely remember like i think like i

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fucked up some people like i know yeah some reviewers

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said that it said like it like caused them to

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have like nausea vertigo i think it fucked up

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people's eyes I went to a Sears back in the day.

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I was a little kid and I remember playing on

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one that was on display and I stuck my face in

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there and I literally was so enthralled with

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what I was seeing that I actually drooled. I

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felt the drool come out of my mouth and drip.

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I remember the Walmart near me had it on display

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and I played it and I'm pretty sure I died. Like

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none of this is real. I think this is just like

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my, it's a fever dream. You're actually in a

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coma. It wasn't great. Like, and it sucked to

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look at dude. It was so bad. Yeah. It was, it

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honestly, like looking back on it now, I just

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remember it being a series of red lines. Like

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it was not, it was not a 3d rendering by any

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stretch of the imagination. It was just angled

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lines. Yeah. But anyways, we're getting off track.

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So soldiers, recap, soldiers got red night vision,

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started slowly losing their minds, started fighting

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with each other. And this is all in the first

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week. Then the helicopter incident happened.

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Oh, snap. Allegedly, well, during a routine helicopter

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patrol over a somewhat quiet part of Vietnam,

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a gunner who was wearing the red night vision

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goggles just fucking started open firing at something.

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oh no then he just started screaming that he

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was shooting at demons and he just kept screaming

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about demons over and over again while just lighting

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up the jungle not great not great nope now the

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strangest the strangest part about all of this

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is that apparently officers and pilots specifically

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had been ordered not to wear the red night vision

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goggles but an officer aboard the craft tackled

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the man ordered that the gunner remove his goggles

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and he put them on himself. And then according

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to Mark Anthony, who seems... I'm going to say

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this. It seems like his only source is like,

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trust me, bro, kind of thing. Yeah. The officer,

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quote unquote, saw several grotesque winged humanoid

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creatures flying up from the treetops below towards

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the helicopter, end quote. Oh. And... This wasn't

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an isolated incident. According to Mark Anthony

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Esquire, again, he is a lawyer. Over a period

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of several weeks, reports flooded in from soldiers

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who had seen these flying creatures while wearing

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the goggles. Even officers who had disobeyed

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their orders and decided to put them on described

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seeing gargoyles and or demons. Not great. How

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are we feeling so far? I don't like this at all,

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but I am not shocked in any way because night

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vision goggles already kind of make you look

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like a demon. And then you're going to put on

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red night vision goggles. Fuck that. Yeah, not

00:18:29.930 --> 00:18:32.670
great. I don't want it. It was also reported

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by people who wore them that the creatures would

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immediately come at you as soon as they noticed

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them. Like, you know that they know that you

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could see them. Well, here's the thing. So I

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don't know if that means that, like, as soon

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as the person wearing the goggles noticed the

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demon or if the demons noticed the person or

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if the demons noticed that the person wearing

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the goggles are now aware of the demons. Like,

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I don't know what that means. Like, I don't know

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if it, like you said, like. do they only attack

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if the demons notice that you notice that you

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can see them? Or if it's like, as soon as you

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just even make eye contacts in general, like

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what is, how would you interpret what that means?

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That's my interpretation is that you put on the

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night vision goggles and they're red and now

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you can see fucking hellfire demons. Yeah. And

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the demons are like, oh shit, we've been spotted.

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Let's go get them. That's what I was thinking.

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Yeah. As well. But there was no clarification.

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So I didn't know if it meant like. Of course

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not. It's coast to coast AM. You're lucky that

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they were speaking English. But like, yes. So

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again, I don't know. I don't. That would be my

00:19:42.269 --> 00:19:44.630
first assumption is that once the demons notice

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that you are able to notice them, that's when

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they would attack. But people are saying they.

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if that's the case and they said that like this

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happened, how are they, how, how was there no

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other witnesses to you being torn apart by a

00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:05.319
invisible demon? Well, maybe they're not, maybe

00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:07.019
it's not like they're, they're going to come

00:20:07.019 --> 00:20:08.779
and tear you apart. Maybe they're going to like,

00:20:08.859 --> 00:20:12.000
maybe they, they're going after you internally.

00:20:12.059 --> 00:20:13.579
Like they're going to take your soul instead.

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Maybe, but also not going to lie. If I saw a

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demon that I could only see with red night vision

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goggles, And they knew that I could only see

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them with red night vision. When I started running,

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I'd take them off. I feel like they would stop.

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Okay. So I hear what you're saying, but I, but

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no, let me throw in a little combat knowledge

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here. This is the reason why I wanted to do this

00:20:38.859 --> 00:20:41.400
episode. Cause you will set me straight, but

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also would you not just immediately take them

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off? I would. Yes. But at the same time, that's

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me talking to you right near, right here now

00:20:48.220 --> 00:20:53.069
in Massachusetts. When I went on mission, I was

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amped up. Well, I mean, you have a machine gun.

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But you're also so amped up on caffeine and nicotine.

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Dude, my blood could have powered Vegas for a

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week. I was constantly in a state of fucking

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manic violence. Dude, we are two violently different

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people. Yeah. I was inches away from murder constantly.

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because like you go out of mission you need to

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be alert especially like i was a gunner so i

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was in the turret of the truck and if you're

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a door gunner it's same thing you have to be

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constantly alert for for threats and so you take

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a lot of caffeine and you've got you know ripping

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cigarettes like you fucking read about and so

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you're just ready to destroy anything in your

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path And the only thing that stopped me from

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like opening fire on everything is knowing that

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like I had to account for my ammunition. So I

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couldn't just fucking randomly shoot anytime

00:21:52.380 --> 00:21:54.700
something looked threatening. I had to have a

00:21:54.700 --> 00:21:57.880
good reason to justify, you know, shooting at

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something. So you're saying the helicopter gunner

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who was wearing the red night vision, the red

00:22:02.460 --> 00:22:05.779
night vision, I saw the demons. He was well within

00:22:05.779 --> 00:22:08.000
his right to just start unloading into trees.

00:22:08.740 --> 00:22:11.019
I'm telling you right now, I 100 % would have

00:22:11.019 --> 00:22:15.000
fucking opened up. an entire magazine. That's

00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.980
fair. All 200 rounds, whatever was flying towards

00:22:18.980 --> 00:22:23.079
me while being a door gunner in Vietnam. Absolutely

00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:27.220
without question. Okay, but we got to this because

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we still don't understand what they mean by it

00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:32.700
was also reported by people who wore them that

00:22:32.700 --> 00:22:34.480
the creatures would immediately come at you as

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soon as they noticed them. Well, that I can't

00:22:36.819 --> 00:22:39.200
explain. I mean, other than that, I think that,

00:22:39.299 --> 00:22:41.319
you know, because the creatures noticed you looking

00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:43.599
at them and watching them, they were like, oh

00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:46.339
shit, better go get that guy. He knows we're

00:22:46.339 --> 00:22:48.380
here. So what you're saying is that, which is

00:22:48.380 --> 00:22:50.779
a theory that we might get into, is that they're

00:22:50.779 --> 00:22:54.900
interdimensional. They don't, we shouldn't be

00:22:54.900 --> 00:22:57.059
able to notice them and they won't attack us

00:22:57.059 --> 00:22:58.900
if we don't notice them. Well, yeah, because

00:22:58.900 --> 00:23:01.579
the way night vision works is that it's picking

00:23:01.579 --> 00:23:04.869
up a different kind of light. It's picking up

00:23:04.869 --> 00:23:06.930
light that isn't visible with the human eye ambient.

00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:10.529
Yeah. So if these demons are there, maybe these

00:23:10.529 --> 00:23:12.750
demons are there all the time and we can't see

00:23:12.750 --> 00:23:15.730
them, but then you put on these night vision

00:23:15.730 --> 00:23:18.329
goggles and it gives you the ability to see light

00:23:18.329 --> 00:23:20.329
on a wavelength that we normally couldn't see

00:23:20.329 --> 00:23:23.609
as human beings. But what if, hear me out. Okay.

00:23:23.670 --> 00:23:33.980
It doesn't, it's not. Well, either way, the use

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and testing of these goggles was abruptly canceled

00:23:36.619 --> 00:23:42.119
after 60 days. It seems too long. Yeah, it seems

00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:44.619
like after the first fist fight between two guys

00:23:44.619 --> 00:23:46.599
wearing these goggles, maybe you don't do that

00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:48.299
anymore. But again, I'm not a military man, so

00:23:48.299 --> 00:23:50.359
maybe that's just like the standard length of

00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:53.400
time. Like maybe like two months is like. I mean,

00:23:53.420 --> 00:23:56.619
back then, yeah. Nowadays, no, that is not normal.

00:23:56.779 --> 00:23:58.500
I mean, nowadays, if you've got two guys that

00:23:58.500 --> 00:24:00.220
go kind of crazy and start fighting each other.

00:24:00.730 --> 00:24:02.410
You're probably going to cancel that experiment

00:24:02.410 --> 00:24:05.910
real quick. Maybe. At one point in Iraq, we had

00:24:05.910 --> 00:24:09.789
to wear high visibility vests when we were walking

00:24:09.789 --> 00:24:14.150
in front of our truck to go from my base to the

00:24:14.150 --> 00:24:16.369
motor pool. Oh, so you mean you're just way more

00:24:16.369 --> 00:24:18.589
visible to the enemy than you should be? Yeah,

00:24:18.589 --> 00:24:20.930
because they didn't want us to accidentally get

00:24:20.930 --> 00:24:23.349
run over. And I'm like, I don't know. I feel

00:24:23.349 --> 00:24:26.750
like my driver would notice me. I feel like I

00:24:26.750 --> 00:24:30.240
would trust the driver more than a sniper. Yeah,

00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:34.680
yeah, yeah. But even after the program ended,

00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:38.380
there were some short -term effects. Soldiers

00:24:38.380 --> 00:24:40.420
who had worn the goggles were mentally unstable

00:24:40.420 --> 00:24:42.599
for months after the experiment, according to

00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:45.359
Mark Anthony, world -renowned psychic medium.

00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.740
And what they suffered from exactly, I don't

00:24:48.740 --> 00:24:52.920
know. Full disclosure. I did not listen to this

00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.859
episode of Coast to Coast AM. You're probably

00:24:56.859 --> 00:24:58.920
better off for it. Well, because if you claim

00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:02.500
to be a lawyer and a world renowned psychic medium,

00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.640
I don't want to hear a word out of your fucking

00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:06.980
mouth. I do not care what the fuck you have to

00:25:06.980 --> 00:25:10.839
say about anything. He practices ghost law. So

00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:15.900
how true is this story? Well, let's be real.

00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:20.269
It's not. uh it's not no and uh thanks to the

00:25:20.269 --> 00:25:24.349
website uh the website dawnshift .com we can

00:25:24.349 --> 00:25:26.609
kind of work out why i didn't really go into

00:25:26.609 --> 00:25:29.569
a lot of detail but i think sarge you have some

00:25:29.569 --> 00:25:32.069
more experience with night vision than anyone

00:25:32.069 --> 00:25:35.000
that i would even know For one actual Vietnam

00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:38.440
vets have completely demolished the rumor. According

00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.000
to the website, I just mentioned several pilots

00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:42.740
from this time have confirmed that there were

00:25:42.740 --> 00:25:45.519
absolutely no red night vision goggles at the

00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.480
time and definitely not enough night vision goggles

00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.339
for an entire unit. Yeah. In fact, there weren't

00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:56.039
really night vision goggles at all until like

00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:57.960
the night. I don't think there were, it's like

00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:02.619
the late 1960s. And in, it was like 1969 that

00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:06.220
the arm, the army had like prototype night vision

00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:11.500
goggles and it was like very limited. And anyone

00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:14.519
who got them was, it was on a very limited basis

00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:19.440
and it was crazy top secret and super huge. They

00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.339
had to be huge. Oh, these things were heavy.

00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:27.039
Yeah. Bulky. And they were never adopted officially

00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.500
into the Vietnam war. In 2009, the fucking night

00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:32.680
vision goggles that I wore were really small.

00:26:33.309 --> 00:26:35.710
And they just flipped down off your helmet. And

00:26:35.710 --> 00:26:39.329
the fucking mount for them was like half a pound.

00:26:39.509 --> 00:26:41.849
Yeah. And then the goggles themselves are hanging

00:26:41.849 --> 00:26:44.009
off your helmet. So you had to tighten the straps

00:26:44.009 --> 00:26:46.890
really tight in order to keep the goggles from

00:26:46.890 --> 00:26:49.269
dragging your helmet down. Yeah. So in 1965,

00:26:49.650 --> 00:26:55.750
the idea of giving full units of men. No way.

00:26:56.029 --> 00:27:00.109
It just makes no sense. You can't. No. And the

00:27:00.109 --> 00:27:03.230
thing is, while, yes, red is easier on the eyes,

00:27:03.269 --> 00:27:06.529
as we learned with the Virtual Boy, it's not

00:27:06.529 --> 00:27:10.710
great for a display. Green is always the way

00:27:10.710 --> 00:27:13.470
to go from both a spectral efficiency and also

00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:17.930
a human visual sensitivity standpoint. Red light

00:27:17.930 --> 00:27:21.029
isn't great in low light conditions. As we said,

00:27:21.130 --> 00:27:25.589
if you're in fog, the taillights of a car, it's

00:27:25.589 --> 00:27:28.619
not great. Uh, red light isn't great in low light

00:27:28.619 --> 00:27:31.460
conditions and would basically cause like a loss

00:27:31.460 --> 00:27:34.160
of contrast and detail. What I read is as basically

00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.339
like, if you were looking through red night vision

00:27:37.339 --> 00:27:41.140
goggles, you almost colorblind. Like, yeah, we

00:27:41.140 --> 00:27:44.559
were specifically told not to wear, um, protective

00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.779
eyewear that had red lenses because a lot of

00:27:47.779 --> 00:27:50.019
people who wear shooting glasses, their lenses

00:27:50.019 --> 00:27:52.559
are either yellow or red. And we were specifically

00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.299
told not to because you wouldn't be able to tell

00:27:55.299 --> 00:27:58.799
if sometimes if there were wires when you were

00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.380
looking for IEDs and stuff because the wires

00:28:01.380 --> 00:28:03.920
would blend in. Yeah, but green on the other

00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.920
hand is much better and it gives like a smoother,

00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.180
clearer image of what you're looking at. Like

00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:14.319
the glow lasts longer, so you have a much smoother,

00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.539
clearer image. I honestly didn't know that about

00:28:17.539 --> 00:28:20.319
the green light. Because when you were first

00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.180
talking about it, it kind of made sense to me.

00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.339
But yeah, that makes total sense because red

00:28:25.339 --> 00:28:29.440
light is not great for distinguishing contrast.

00:28:29.900 --> 00:28:33.019
And again, to your point, it doesn't go far.

00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.519
Red, yellow, and orange, if you're looking at

00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.259
it through a red light, you kind of get lost

00:28:38.259 --> 00:28:42.160
in it. But the green light picks up all those

00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.460
different contrasts. So that way you can easily

00:28:44.460 --> 00:28:47.779
determine shape. all that stuff. It's way more

00:28:47.779 --> 00:28:49.880
like quote unquote high def. I don't think in

00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.000
the sixties it was very high def, but you, you

00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.519
understand what I'm talking about. Yeah. That's

00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.900
why all of those highly efficient websites use

00:28:55.900 --> 00:28:59.660
green and black, green lettering on a black background.

00:29:00.019 --> 00:29:01.900
Exactly. Like I'm not going to go into any more

00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:04.640
detail about, there you have it. Like that, this

00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.759
is like a fun urban legend that people fucking

00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:11.119
love to believe. it's been on the internet longer

00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.380
than I have even been alive. I feel like, you

00:29:14.380 --> 00:29:16.420
know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's one of those

00:29:16.420 --> 00:29:18.680
things where I just randomly get a bunch of tech

00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.839
talks for some reason about this fucking story.

00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.559
And I remembered this story and I was like, Oh,

00:29:23.619 --> 00:29:25.220
I want to learn more about it. And then I realized

00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:29.079
that like, I don't know how we just did a half

00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.720
hour to 45 minute episode on it because all the

00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:35.779
information that I got is from four minute, like

00:29:35.779 --> 00:29:38.259
two minute tech talks. It's cause we're drunk.

00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:40.559
That's because we're both drunk. Yeah, it's Memorial

00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.000
Day weekend. And honestly, what better way to

00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.420
remember all of my friends who are no longer

00:29:45.420 --> 00:29:49.000
with us than drinking a beer. Yeah. Especially

00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.599
if it's an Arrogant's Lager. Yeah. Because it's

00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.440
local, and I was in the Mass National Guard,

00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:57.539
so fuck all you people. Drinking a goddamn Yingling

00:29:57.539 --> 00:30:03.930
or Budweiser. Whoa, hold on. All right. Let's

00:30:03.930 --> 00:30:06.170
all just contact it out. You were from New England

00:30:06.170 --> 00:30:08.690
first, okay? Never forget your roots. And arrogance

00:30:08.690 --> 00:30:10.190
is better than ying -ling. I don't care what

00:30:10.190 --> 00:30:12.950
anybody says. I just did one of those peas from,

00:30:12.990 --> 00:30:15.809
like, remember the Austin Powers movie where

00:30:15.809 --> 00:30:17.789
he eats asparagus and peas in the fountain? It

00:30:17.789 --> 00:30:21.730
just lasts forever. Yeah, dude, that was... It

00:30:21.730 --> 00:30:30.730
was the... What were we talking about? Yeah,

00:30:31.490 --> 00:30:34.009
it's Memorial Day. Can't believe we could do

00:30:34.009 --> 00:30:38.170
30 minutes on like two minutes of TikTok videos,

00:30:38.390 --> 00:30:40.630
which is crazy. This is the first time I've ever

00:30:40.630 --> 00:30:42.829
heard this story before. I think you brought

00:30:42.829 --> 00:30:44.650
it home. All right. So how do I end this episode?

00:30:44.930 --> 00:30:48.609
Hey, regardless of the work that you did, regardless

00:30:48.609 --> 00:30:51.569
of your war, we appreciate the vets. We appreciate

00:30:51.569 --> 00:30:55.470
those who made the ultimate sacrifice. And fuck

00:30:55.470 --> 00:30:58.309
Donald Trump. Fuck Donald Trump. And Sarge, I

00:30:58.309 --> 00:31:00.269
appreciate you. I'm glad you didn't die in the

00:31:00.269 --> 00:31:05.920
war. Me too, buddy. Me too. I mean, like this

00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:07.500
show wouldn't still be going. I probably would

00:31:07.500 --> 00:31:10.900
have gave up a long time ago. So this is the

00:31:10.900 --> 00:31:14.220
most fun I have every week. So I appreciate you

00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:16.819
too. Thanks for listening and listen Memorial

00:31:16.819 --> 00:31:20.559
day. Don't, don't spend the whole day being sad.

00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.519
Those guys didn't die for you to do that. They

00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.099
want you to have a good time. They want you to

00:31:25.099 --> 00:31:27.299
celebrate just to have a drink for them. I don't

00:31:27.299 --> 00:31:29.779
think most people know what. Memorial Day is

00:31:29.779 --> 00:31:32.180
they celebrate the same way Veterans Day is celebrated.

00:31:32.339 --> 00:31:36.859
Most people, again, at my work, thanks all the

00:31:36.859 --> 00:31:42.380
veterans for their service before the weekend.

00:31:42.380 --> 00:31:45.140
At least they didn't say Happy Memorial Day because

00:31:45.140 --> 00:31:50.299
nothing sets off my rage more than when people

00:31:50.299 --> 00:31:53.400
say Happy Memorial Day. And when I was working

00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.880
in retail, nothing would make me angrier. Then

00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:58.660
when people say, what's your sale for Memorial

00:31:58.660 --> 00:32:02.039
Day? And I just wanted to be like, how about

00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.299
you just enjoy the fact that you're free, you

00:32:04.299 --> 00:32:06.380
fucking idiot. Sarge, here's the thing, though.

00:32:06.460 --> 00:32:09.619
I can get a Toyota right now for like 50%. I

00:32:09.619 --> 00:32:12.920
know. Nothing says thank you for making the ultimate

00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.440
sacrifice like 50 % off a mattress. Yeah, you

00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:19.240
know, Raymoor and Flanagan have some pretty good

00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.779
deals this weekend. I'm so glad I don't work

00:32:21.779 --> 00:32:23.980
in that industry anymore because every Memorial

00:32:23.980 --> 00:32:26.940
Day was a rage struggle for me. Oh, for sure.

00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.839
But I'm just going to say, like, I can go to

00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.160
Wayfair right now and get a dresser for like

00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:36.720
$4. Which makes no sense. I might get a child

00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.240
with it because remember that whole thing? Don't

00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:41.880
start that fucking conspiracy theory. That fucking

00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:46.440
conspiracy theory made me so angry. All right,

00:32:46.460 --> 00:32:48.259
we should wrap this up. We're both a little too

00:32:48.259 --> 00:32:51.640
drunk for this. All right, Sarge, do you want

00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.180
to plug your coloring book or no? Yeah, buy the

00:32:54.180 --> 00:32:56.779
fucking coloring book. SargesSuperNormal .com.

00:32:57.819 --> 00:33:00.799
SargesSuperNormal .com. $9 .99. Celebrate Memorial

00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.140
Day by coloring Donald Trump. A better color

00:33:04.140 --> 00:33:06.980
of orange if you can do it. You can find us on

00:33:06.980 --> 00:33:10.880
Instagram. Just Google Cryptid Cocktail Party.

00:33:10.980 --> 00:33:13.640
We pop up everywhere. I did that recently. We're

00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:19.079
everywhere. We're amazing. And you can Google

00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.079
Sarge the Destroyer. You can find me that way.

00:33:21.420 --> 00:33:24.079
You can find all of our links on our Instagram

00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.440
page. Sarge was out of the way. Do you want to

00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.599
say goodbye and love you? Guys, I love you. Have

00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.880
a happy and safe Memorial Day weekend and have

00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.799
a beer for those who can't be with us. And I

00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:36.059
love you.
