WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.339 You are now listening to Cryptid Cocktail Party. 00:00:41.100 --> 00:00:42.640 The theme song is always longer than I remember 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:46.280 it being. Yes, yes. I was just thinking that 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:48.979 exact same thing. Welcome back, everyone, to 00:00:48.979 --> 00:00:50.780 another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a 00:00:50.780 --> 00:00:52.079 show where we have a few drinks, share a few 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:53.960 laughs, take a dive into the unknown. I'm your 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:55.700 host, Dave. Joined, as always, by my wonderful 00:00:55.700 --> 00:00:57.420 co -host, Sarge. How's it going, Sarge? Woo! 00:00:57.899 --> 00:00:59.679 I'm not shirtless. I know I said I was going 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:02.259 to be, but I decided against that. Well, I'm 00:01:02.259 --> 00:01:03.679 glad you're not, because we have a guest today. 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.319 Joining us from the Funbearable podcast, we have 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:09.239 Chuck Statton. Is it Statton? Staten? Statton? 00:01:09.299 --> 00:01:11.319 Probably should have confirmed this before. It's 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:14.040 Staten. Is it Staten? Staten. Yeah. Think of 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:16.859 it like Satan with an extra T. Yeah. So not named 00:01:16.859 --> 00:01:18.519 after the island. That's where I live, though. 00:01:18.540 --> 00:01:20.519 I live in Staten Island, so it's tough. Fucking 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.920 botched that one. God damn. Well, anyways, how 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:25.799 you doing, Chuck? I'm good, man. It's all right. 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:27.859 Everyone gets it wrong. Some people say Stanton. 00:01:28.260 --> 00:01:31.219 That's weird. There's no second N, so I don't 00:01:31.219 --> 00:01:34.060 know why they would do that. I know. I think 00:01:34.060 --> 00:01:37.400 that maybe that's a more common name. I don't 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:39.140 know. But yeah, it's always been a thing in my 00:01:39.140 --> 00:01:41.459 life. Well, sorry you had to go through that. 00:01:41.659 --> 00:01:44.540 I have a similar problem with my last name. I 00:01:44.540 --> 00:01:47.920 don't want to dox myself, but it sounds suspiciously 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:51.760 like a seafood product, and people just call 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:55.959 me the seafood product, even though a lot of 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.319 those letters are missing. Wow, Sarge Shrimps. 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:03.799 Yeah. It's not easy being named after shrimp. 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:10.609 His actual last name is pronounced Shrimpe. He's 00:02:10.609 --> 00:02:17.349 French. It's beautiful. All right, Chuck. Well, 00:02:17.409 --> 00:02:19.330 I have a question for you. It's a question we 00:02:19.330 --> 00:02:21.289 ask anyone who comes on the show. Are you like 00:02:21.289 --> 00:02:24.449 a cryptids paranormal alien type guy or is this 00:02:24.449 --> 00:02:27.069 something totally foreign to you? I like that 00:02:27.069 --> 00:02:29.849 kind of stuff. I think it's very fun. I like 00:02:29.849 --> 00:02:32.990 monsters. I like creatures. I was born as a creature, 00:02:33.110 --> 00:02:35.490 and I continue to be one, so it feels very homey 00:02:35.490 --> 00:02:39.849 to me. Accurate. Yeah, exactly. So I do love 00:02:39.849 --> 00:02:41.650 playing with that stuff. I love that kind of 00:02:41.650 --> 00:02:43.849 stuff. Dude, the honesty is refreshing. No, I 00:02:43.849 --> 00:02:46.550 appreciate it. I love the concept of goblins. 00:02:46.629 --> 00:02:48.430 Goblins are really interesting to me. I know 00:02:48.430 --> 00:02:50.949 it's not really a specific cryptid, but I just 00:02:50.949 --> 00:02:54.219 love the idea of a goblin. I shamelessly play 00:02:54.219 --> 00:02:57.360 a goblin in my current D &D campaign, and I enjoy 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.979 every moment of it. I shamelessly play a goblin 00:02:59.979 --> 00:03:04.319 on my podcast. Well, there you go. His name is 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:08.939 Chuck. Well, unfortunately for you, Chuck, this 00:03:08.939 --> 00:03:13.000 episode does not have goblins or any sort of 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.620 monster of any type. I was told they'd be goblins. 00:03:16.659 --> 00:03:20.539 I'm out. Yeah, sorry. No, this is something a 00:03:20.539 --> 00:03:22.360 little bit different. I guess this is more of 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:25.039 a mystery than anything. An unsolved mystery 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.539 or possibly solved. Maybe we'll be the ones to 00:03:27.539 --> 00:03:29.240 figure it out. Did we just become a true crime 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:34.580 podcast? Not even close. There's no murder. We 00:03:34.580 --> 00:03:37.080 already tried that once and it was fine. What 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:39.379 do either of you guys know about the city of 00:03:39.379 --> 00:03:43.639 Philadelphia? Great cream cheese. Not too much. 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:46.099 I dated a girl that lived there for a while, 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.139 so I hung out there a bunch of times. Okay, well, 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.419 what if I told you guys that Philadelphia, the 00:03:51.419 --> 00:03:53.439 city of brotherly love, cheesesteaks, and nightmare 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:56.379 sport mascots, is home to one of the most bizarre 00:03:56.379 --> 00:03:59.139 unsolved mysteries stretching back 40 years. 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.599 Now, this is a wild street -level conspiracy 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.340 that's literally baked into the pavement, one 00:04:05.340 --> 00:04:07.780 that stretches across the country and beyond. 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:11.219 We're talking hundreds of handmade tiles embedded 00:04:11.219 --> 00:04:13.599 right into the asphalt of busy intersections, 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.300 all repeating the same weird message. Toynbee 00:04:17.300 --> 00:04:21.680 idea in movie 2001, Resurrect Dead on planet 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:25.860 Jupiter. No name, no explanation, just a cryptic 00:04:25.860 --> 00:04:28.639 sci -fi gospel burnt into the crosswalk. Almost 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.899 like someone is trying to warn us or possibly 00:04:30.899 --> 00:04:34.500 recruit us or maybe both. So who made these tiles? 00:04:34.699 --> 00:04:37.040 What do they mean? And why is the planet Jupiter 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.199 involved? Well, today, gentlemen. we're going 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.579 to be diving headfirst into the world of the 00:04:41.579 --> 00:04:44.319 Toynbee Tiles, a story riddled with paranoia, 00:04:44.420 --> 00:04:47.660 resurrection, modified cars, and one man's mission 00:04:47.660 --> 00:04:50.439 to bring the dead back to life. So Sarge, I assume 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:52.319 you are familiar with this, but Chuck, are you 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.160 familiar with the Toynbee Tiles? I had no idea 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:56.639 it had anything to do with Philadelphia, though. 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:57.980 I thought it was like New York and like a bunch 00:04:57.980 --> 00:05:00.660 of other cities. This is so great. No, I've never 00:05:00.660 --> 00:05:03.740 heard about this. I have no idea. Are they under 00:05:03.740 --> 00:05:05.279 Rocky? That's what I know about Philadelphia 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:07.439 Rocky, the statue. They're not under Rocky, no, 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.160 unfortunately. There might be a hidden one. You 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:11.300 don't know. There could be. They're fucking everywhere, 00:05:11.420 --> 00:05:14.459 dude. All right, so let's start off this episode, 00:05:14.579 --> 00:05:17.060 but let's break down the message that's on the 00:05:17.060 --> 00:05:18.839 tiles. Like I said, there are hundreds of these 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:21.060 things, and almost all of them stick to the same 00:05:21.060 --> 00:05:25.000 four -line message. Toynbee idea in movie 2001, 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.670 resurrect dead on planet Jupiter. Now, at first 00:05:28.670 --> 00:05:30.569 glance, you would immediately assume it's either 00:05:30.569 --> 00:05:32.949 the ramblings of a madman or some low effort 00:05:32.949 --> 00:05:35.430 cult recruitment effort. But if we break it down 00:05:35.430 --> 00:05:37.829 the message piece by piece, you kind of see what's 00:05:37.829 --> 00:05:41.290 being explained here. So Toynbee idea. This references 00:05:41.290 --> 00:05:44.589 Arnold Toynbee, a 20th century British historian 00:05:44.589 --> 00:05:47.310 and philosopher. He's known for his very dense 00:05:47.310 --> 00:05:49.610 12 volume book series about the rise and fall 00:05:49.610 --> 00:05:52.149 of civilizations. But he also tossed around some 00:05:52.149 --> 00:05:54.389 pretty cosmic ideas about death, religion and 00:05:54.389 --> 00:05:56.449 rebirth, which is where like the mystery Tyler 00:05:56.449 --> 00:05:59.319 kind of. latched on i think he and i would have 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:03.420 a lot in common because i'm also very dent now 00:06:03.420 --> 00:06:06.360 in movie 2001 this is obviously a reference to 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.420 stanley kubrick's 2001 a space odyssey it's that 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:12.579 trippy as hell you know movie where there's a 00:06:12.579 --> 00:06:15.040 space baby floating around and how tries to murder 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.740 everyone because they all forgot to say please 00:06:16.740 --> 00:06:19.639 to him it's a movie about like evolution transformation 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.959 and maybe something becoming something more than 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.800 human And then you have resurrect dead. That's 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:27.319 just exactly what it sounds like. There's no 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:30.600 hidden mystery there. And then on planet Jupiter, 00:06:30.779 --> 00:06:33.839 as in like the massive ball of gas, 484 million 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.399 miles away. That's going to be the resurrection 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:38.620 site. So altogether, it reads like a science 00:06:38.620 --> 00:06:40.819 fiction ransom note from some sort of like sidewalk 00:06:40.819 --> 00:06:43.560 prophet. But that's basically like the tolling 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:46.040 be tile gospel. Breaks down to a historian had 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.959 an idea. Kubrick made a movie. And now we're 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:52.000 going to resurrect people on Jupiter. How are 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:53.540 we feeling? Are you guys following? It's going 00:06:53.540 --> 00:06:56.060 to be hard because from what I understand, and 00:06:56.060 --> 00:06:59.319 again, don't forget, I am very dense. There is 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:03.199 no oxygen on Jupiter. Thank you. This is kind 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:05.839 of what I was like. I'm like, well, if we resurrect 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:07.839 people on Jupiter, isn't that bad news for the 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:09.980 resurrected? Yeah, we're going to bring them 00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:12.540 back just to kill them in a new way. I know. 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:14.680 Are we building a compound up there? That's the 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:16.100 only thing I could think of. But then we're also 00:07:16.100 --> 00:07:18.560 paying to get them back to Earth. It's a lot. 00:07:18.910 --> 00:07:20.930 There's a lot going on that has not been cleared 00:07:20.930 --> 00:07:23.990 up by this tile. All will become clear. I promise 00:07:23.990 --> 00:07:27.689 you. Okay. Okay. I trust you. So the message 00:07:27.689 --> 00:07:29.850 is short, strange. And like I said, it slapped 00:07:29.850 --> 00:07:32.189 onto hundreds of street corners across America. 00:07:32.490 --> 00:07:35.529 But who made them and why? Well, to learn both 00:07:35.529 --> 00:07:36.810 of those things, we're going to need to break 00:07:36.810 --> 00:07:40.009 down the message even more and get to who might 00:07:40.009 --> 00:07:42.189 possibly be behind it. So let's start with the 00:07:42.189 --> 00:07:44.810 guy behind the name, Arnold Toynbee. Like I said, 00:07:44.910 --> 00:07:48.250 he was a British historian who... He was less 00:07:48.250 --> 00:07:50.870 into dates and wars and shit and more into sweeping 00:07:50.870 --> 00:07:53.110 theories about civilizations rising, falling, 00:07:53.370 --> 00:07:57.449 and then starting over. And in his 1970s autobiography, 00:07:57.610 --> 00:08:00.649 Toynbee tossed the idea that after we die, our 00:08:00.649 --> 00:08:02.829 bodies decay, but our quote -unquote substance 00:08:02.829 --> 00:08:06.089 lives on. Not like our souls, but like our cosmic 00:08:06.089 --> 00:08:09.990 meat dust just kind of stays around. All of our 00:08:09.990 --> 00:08:14.600 juices. Okay, I get that. Now you toss in 2001, 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:17.379 the movie ends with Dave Bowman dying, maybe, 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.100 and then being reborn as a giant space fetus 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:24.480 over the planet Jupiter. So Tyler took Toynbee's 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.339 idea about death, mashed it up with 2001's Jupiter 00:08:27.339 --> 00:08:30.000 finale, and boom, came up with the idea that 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.600 we can literally resurrect the dead on Jupiter. 00:08:33.259 --> 00:08:35.639 Literally. And how do we know he meant literally? 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:40.179 Well, in 1983, a Philadelphia newspaper columnist 00:08:40.179 --> 00:08:42.639 got a phone call from a guy claiming to be James 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:45.639 Marasco. The caller went on about how all the 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:47.779 people that ever died could be brought back to 00:08:47.779 --> 00:08:50.340 life on the planet Jupiter. He even went on to 00:08:50.340 --> 00:08:52.500 argue that Jupiter's atmosphere could somehow 00:08:52.500 --> 00:08:55.539 be made suitable for human life. And he envisioned 00:08:55.539 --> 00:08:58.299 rebuilding humanity atom by atom on Jupiter. 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.019 So he truly believed that Toynbee figured out 00:09:01.019 --> 00:09:04.259 like the blueprint and then Kubrick. He dramatized 00:09:04.259 --> 00:09:06.480 it, and now it was his job to tell the world 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.379 about what he has discovered. So, does that clear 00:09:09.379 --> 00:09:11.740 up how we're going to do this? Not in any way, 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:13.799 no. But I am impressed that you created your 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:17.539 own tongue twister, and you said that Tyler took 00:09:17.539 --> 00:09:20.779 Toynbee's idea. You went all the way through, 00:09:20.980 --> 00:09:22.919 no mistakes. I'm impressed. I would say that 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:24.740 was a struggle, considering how hungover I am 00:09:24.740 --> 00:09:27.879 right now. Like, I can't function. You did it 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:29.940 so well, though, and I think it's maybe because 00:09:29.940 --> 00:09:32.620 you were hungover. You just didn't let your mind 00:09:32.620 --> 00:09:35.820 get in the way. You just fired through. So can 00:09:35.820 --> 00:09:39.139 I ask one quick question? So we're to believe 00:09:39.139 --> 00:09:43.919 that this theory is like, listen, NASA has no 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.259 idea what the fuck they're talking about. Jupiter 00:09:46.259 --> 00:09:48.860 is fine. We could start a civilization there. 00:09:49.059 --> 00:09:50.440 Yeah. And that's what we're going to resurrect. 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.799 Is that right? Yeah. We just got to find a way 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.299 to like. terraform the atmosphere to make it 00:09:55.299 --> 00:09:57.159 more suitable for human life they didn't go into 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.980 detail about how on a planet that has no solid 00:09:59.980 --> 00:10:02.240 ground by the way well we can work around that 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.179 there's no solid ground jupiter is just a it's 00:10:05.179 --> 00:10:08.360 a gas giant oh which means it's mostly gas with 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:11.460 like a small solid core and by the time you got 00:10:11.460 --> 00:10:14.379 to that core the gravitational pressure from 00:10:14.379 --> 00:10:17.480 the atmosphere uh you know would would fucking 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:20.720 kill you sorry so here's here's i'm really interested 00:10:21.659 --> 00:10:24.340 In this whole thing? Sarge, here's the problem, 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.659 all right? You're thinking about it. I'm going 00:10:26.659 --> 00:10:29.000 to need you to just not think about it, okay? 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.399 I knew you were going to say some version of 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.139 that. I think you just need to just let your 00:10:35.139 --> 00:10:37.879 mind go. Yeah, I made the mistake. Let me just 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.279 finish this Narragansett. Any theory where it's 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:45.360 like, listen, I'm going to give you a really 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.779 solid theory. But if you think about any of the 00:10:48.779 --> 00:10:50.580 logistics, it falls apart immediately. So don't 00:10:50.580 --> 00:10:52.399 think about the logistics. Just listen to my 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.980 theory. It's basically like any Alex Jones conspiracy. 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:57.220 If you think about it for more than like 10 minutes, 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:01.779 it all just unravels. No way. No way. I had some 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.059 gay frogs I found the other day. I found the 00:11:05.059 --> 00:11:07.980 gay frogs. I want gay frogs so bad. They're there. 00:11:08.659 --> 00:11:11.759 It was crazy. The funny thing is they're probably 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.100 just like there's no way to distinguish that 00:11:15.100 --> 00:11:17.480 they're gay. So it's just going to be frogs and 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:20.179 Alex Jones is just going to start shouting at 00:11:20.179 --> 00:11:23.259 every frog he sees. No, no. I saw the guy. The 00:11:23.259 --> 00:11:25.019 frog was wearing pink leather pants and he was 00:11:25.019 --> 00:11:28.980 pulling them off. Gotcha, gotcha. It's a leather 00:11:28.980 --> 00:11:32.419 daddy frog. It was impressive. It looked great. 00:11:32.659 --> 00:11:34.519 And you know what? I asked him some tips about 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.379 decorating my house. I'm in a new apartment and 00:11:36.379 --> 00:11:38.899 he gave me some great pointers. I wonder if frogs 00:11:38.899 --> 00:11:42.990 would have bears. You guys ready to fight? Yeah. 00:11:43.190 --> 00:11:45.490 Okay, let's go. All right. So the first known 00:11:45.490 --> 00:11:47.830 Toynbee tile showed up in Philly around 1983. 00:11:48.169 --> 00:11:50.549 And from there, the tiler just went apeshit with 00:11:50.549 --> 00:11:52.429 them, dropping them more and more at intersections 00:11:52.429 --> 00:11:54.850 and crosswalk. Like these things were embedded 00:11:54.850 --> 00:11:57.210 all over the asphalt of the city. And then they 00:11:57.210 --> 00:11:59.549 spread. They're not collected. They're all random 00:11:59.549 --> 00:12:01.769 all over the place. Yeah. And they're spread 00:12:01.769 --> 00:12:03.889 like they ended up like spreading pretty far. 00:12:03.929 --> 00:12:05.789 Like by the early 90s, tiles were turning up 00:12:05.789 --> 00:12:09.070 in Boston, New York, D .C., Chicago, St. Louis, 00:12:09.230 --> 00:12:12.480 Kansas City. And then. they started popping up 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:16.879 in South America, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, all 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.620 of them with the same four -line message. But, 00:12:19.620 --> 00:12:22.759 plot twist, it wasn't always just that four -line 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:24.779 message. Some tiles came with what I would describe 00:12:24.779 --> 00:12:28.460 as bonus content. uh extra phrases like paranoid 00:12:28.460 --> 00:12:31.360 footnotes if you will sure uh there's even like 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.779 a full -fledged manifesto that was so crammed 00:12:33.779 --> 00:12:35.840 with text that it looked like a ransom note put 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.539 there by god like it was insane it was huge i 00:12:38.539 --> 00:12:40.559 don't understand the motivation to go to south 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:42.639 america with this like english is hard enough 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.980 yeah like i don't i can barely understand what 00:12:45.980 --> 00:12:48.899 he put on those tiles can you imagine some poor 00:12:48.899 --> 00:12:51.360 person who like has english as a second language 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:53.960 trying to figure out what fucking message this 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:56.529 guy's trying to convey great point Do you want 00:12:56.529 --> 00:12:58.350 to hear some of the more wilder inscriptions 00:12:58.350 --> 00:13:01.309 put on some of these tiles? Yes, please. God, 00:13:01.450 --> 00:13:04.110 yes. For the love of God. First up, we got one 00:13:04.110 --> 00:13:06.509 of them just said, murder every journalist, I 00:13:06.509 --> 00:13:08.090 beg you. I like that one. I mean, I could get 00:13:08.090 --> 00:13:10.309 on board with that. I was a professional food 00:13:10.309 --> 00:13:13.950 writer for three years. I really was. I think 00:13:13.950 --> 00:13:15.669 you're safe. I think you're safe. I don't think 00:13:15.669 --> 00:13:17.470 that's the kind of journalism he's worried about. 00:13:19.590 --> 00:13:22.210 Then we got Submit Obey. It kind of got like 00:13:22.210 --> 00:13:25.190 a They Live vibe on that one. I dig that. The 00:13:25.190 --> 00:13:29.330 next one is As Media, USSR, and Fronts Are Against 00:13:29.330 --> 00:13:32.049 It. This one kind of suggests that the Tyler 00:13:32.049 --> 00:13:34.269 thought he was being targeted by a coalition 00:13:34.269 --> 00:13:37.009 of the media, Soviet agents, and fronts, whatever 00:13:37.009 --> 00:13:40.009 that means. Or, and hear me out, he had one of 00:13:40.009 --> 00:13:42.049 those like, you know when you could get like 00:13:42.049 --> 00:13:44.720 the magnetic poem thing? That you could stick 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:46.559 to your fridge? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Create 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:48.740 your own shit, yeah. Oh, I love that. I think 00:13:48.740 --> 00:13:50.980 maybe he just took a handful of those, threw 00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:52.519 it at the fridge, and was like, that's the next 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:55.980 tile. I like that. That's a good theory. Then 00:13:55.980 --> 00:13:59.159 there were some recruitment -style tiles that 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:02.500 said you must make and lay Toynbee tiles, and 00:14:02.500 --> 00:14:04.759 some of them even included instructions on how 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:07.090 to do it. And then you have some... pretty fucking 00:14:07.090 --> 00:14:09.809 truly unhinged ones like uh media conspiracy 00:14:09.809 --> 00:14:12.850 mass murder cover -up do not discuss this idea 00:14:12.850 --> 00:14:16.289 with the public and john knight of the philadelphia 00:14:16.289 --> 00:14:19.570 inquire is the hellion jew who blocked my move 00:14:19.570 --> 00:14:22.169 to have the idea presented on pbs so just some 00:14:22.169 --> 00:14:25.509 casual anti -semitism always for good measure 00:14:25.509 --> 00:14:27.909 because you know why not can i just i'll say 00:14:27.909 --> 00:14:30.350 i'll say i'll gotta be honest i wrote that last 00:14:30.350 --> 00:14:39.059 one Every fucking time, I think, okay, this is 00:14:39.059 --> 00:14:42.399 just a wholesome crackpot. Immediately, the anti 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.860 -Semitism comes out. It was the 80s, though. 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:47.580 Maybe, you know, different time. Yeah, that's 00:14:47.580 --> 00:14:51.440 true. That's true. Very fair. So now we're in 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.960 the late 90s. There are a shitload of these things 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:57.340 popping up across two continents. So how the 00:14:57.340 --> 00:14:59.740 fuck is he doing this? You can't exactly just 00:14:59.740 --> 00:15:01.919 jump out of your car on the highway or intersection 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:04.720 and just start doing mosaics. You kind of need 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:07.019 to really plan this out. And the method is kind 00:15:07.019 --> 00:15:11.659 of genius. So the tiler used tar paper, cut linoleum, 00:15:11.659 --> 00:15:14.570 and some sort of tar adhesive. He would build 00:15:14.570 --> 00:15:17.149 kind of like a layered tile sandwich. He would 00:15:17.149 --> 00:15:19.409 cover it with the tar paper to protect it and 00:15:19.409 --> 00:15:21.649 then drop it through a hole in the floor of his 00:15:21.649 --> 00:15:25.370 car, allegedly. Passing cars would then unknowingly 00:15:25.370 --> 00:15:28.570 press the tile into the asphalt over time and 00:15:28.570 --> 00:15:30.950 then the tar paper would wear away and then the 00:15:30.950 --> 00:15:34.379 message would appear. So holy shit. It's pretty 00:15:34.379 --> 00:15:36.799 gnarly. That's pretty impressive because I thought 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:39.080 this was just being like dumped on a sidewalk. 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:42.299 Me too. No, it's like a whole it's a whole thing. 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.559 Now, tiles followed the roads outward from Philly, 00:15:45.580 --> 00:15:48.919 like I -95, the Jersey Turnpike, major intersections. 00:15:49.059 --> 00:15:51.340 All of them got tagged. But as the years went 00:15:51.340 --> 00:15:54.289 on, the radius kind of shrunk. And after 2001, 00:15:54.610 --> 00:15:56.789 new tiles mostly stuck to the Philadelphia, New 00:15:56.789 --> 00:15:59.610 Jersey area. There were some copycats that did 00:15:59.610 --> 00:16:01.309 start to emerge, including the infamous House 00:16:01.309 --> 00:16:04.169 of Hades, which we'll get to later. But the core 00:16:04.169 --> 00:16:06.850 message pretty much stayed the same. Now, I'm 00:16:06.850 --> 00:16:09.570 sure you guys and everyone are asking yourselves 00:16:09.570 --> 00:16:11.529 the same question that everyone asks when learning 00:16:11.529 --> 00:16:14.250 of the Toynbee tiles. Who the fuck is doing this? 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:16.200 I assume that's the question on everyone's mind. 00:16:16.379 --> 00:16:19.600 No, I thought it would be funny if the tile fell 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:21.759 down the wrong way, right? So the sticky side 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.000 was up. Then it just got stuck to his tire. And 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.360 so he's just going to drive with the tile stuck 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:29.980 to his tire. I have to wonder how many times 00:16:29.980 --> 00:16:33.259 that happened. I'm sure he fucked up a bunch 00:16:33.259 --> 00:16:35.159 of them. There's no way they get perfect every 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:38.240 single time. Right. So here's my question. So 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.039 the tiles are real, for sure. Obviously, the 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.399 Jupiter thing is most likely not. If the tile 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.820 things are real. So this is a real theory about 00:16:48.820 --> 00:16:51.220 how he did it. But in actuality, we're not 100 00:16:51.220 --> 00:16:55.080 % sure how he did it. Yeah, we're not 100 % sure. 00:16:55.220 --> 00:16:59.440 No one's ever seen the... We're going to get 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:01.559 into it, but no one's ever seen the tiles being 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:05.799 laid. They just kind of appear. There'll be nothing 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:07.700 there one day, and then the next morning, there's 00:17:07.700 --> 00:17:10.460 one. So it's interesting just because... If that 00:17:10.460 --> 00:17:12.460 is true and the way he did it was that he had 00:17:12.460 --> 00:17:14.200 a hole in the bottom of his car and he would 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:16.640 place them and that the other cars would like, 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:20.740 you know, stick them. That's such a great concept 00:17:20.740 --> 00:17:22.759 for like a movie. I mean, it doesn't have to 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:25.319 be exactly this, but just the concept of like 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:28.460 putting tar on something, having a hole in your, 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.960 you know, the idea of like some sort of movie 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:32.839 where that's a mystery the entire time and that 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.619 you eventually find out that's how someone did 00:17:34.619 --> 00:17:36.660 something like this. That's an incredible theory. 00:17:37.130 --> 00:17:40.269 I'm already satisfied with that conspiracy theory 00:17:40.269 --> 00:17:44.869 and the theory about how it happened. Think of 00:17:44.869 --> 00:17:46.769 the hilarious things that you could just post 00:17:46.769 --> 00:17:49.390 permanently on the highway. Oh, yeah. Well, I 00:17:49.390 --> 00:17:52.549 think I will say this. I don't think he can drive 00:17:52.549 --> 00:17:54.930 and do it. I think he has to go there at 4 a 00:17:54.930 --> 00:17:58.559 .m. When there's no traffic, stop his car and 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:01.539 drop it. Right. So a lot of them are if you because 00:18:01.539 --> 00:18:03.380 I actually went and saw one today in the lead 00:18:03.380 --> 00:18:05.720 up to this episode, we happened to be near one 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.200 and I went and took a picture of it. Most of 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:11.400 them, most, if not all of them are at like intersections. 00:18:11.500 --> 00:18:14.099 So he's at like a stop sign or a stoplight and 00:18:14.099 --> 00:18:16.640 he'll put it on the ground through the hole. 00:18:16.740 --> 00:18:18.180 And then when the light changes or it's time 00:18:18.180 --> 00:18:20.500 for him to go, he just fucks off. I think that's 00:18:20.500 --> 00:18:22.920 right. Because like they're not. Some of them 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.180 are, yeah. There are some in the middle of I 00:18:25.180 --> 00:18:26.920 -95. I don't think they're still there, obviously, 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:29.900 because it's been years. But he just fucking 00:18:29.900 --> 00:18:32.039 plops them down through a hole in his car. It's 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.240 wild. You know what's interesting? I think would 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.980 be a good part of this theory. I'd like to add 00:18:35.980 --> 00:18:39.819 it. I think his hole in the bottom of his car 00:18:39.819 --> 00:18:43.740 should be somehow aligned with his back tire. 00:18:43.900 --> 00:18:46.359 So as soon as he places it, he drives over it 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:48.599 for the first time. And then other people make 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:50.339 it. Yeah, see, that's what I was thinking. He 00:18:50.339 --> 00:18:53.720 was dropping it. right in line with the tires 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:56.779 so that he would be the first one to drive over 00:18:56.779 --> 00:18:58.799 it and plant it down. Because if it's not aligned 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.099 anywhere else, you can't guarantee that a tire 00:19:01.099 --> 00:19:02.839 could ever hit that, especially on the highway. 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.779 Yeah, that's true. I mean, we'll get into it 00:19:05.779 --> 00:19:08.359 because we kind of have an idea, but I don't 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:10.279 want to spoil it for you. I mean, the level of 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:12.880 thought we just put into this is kind of staggering. 00:19:13.099 --> 00:19:16.579 Yeah, I agree. Not like, who the fuck is this 00:19:16.579 --> 00:19:18.819 guy and why is he doing it? But like, I wonder 00:19:18.819 --> 00:19:21.549 how I could do this. Yeah, exactly. Well, do 00:19:21.549 --> 00:19:23.029 you want to know who the fuck is doing this? 00:19:23.269 --> 00:19:25.910 Yeah. Well, yeah, please. Okay, well, for decades, 00:19:26.049 --> 00:19:29.490 nobody knew. Like, the tiles just appeared. No 00:19:29.490 --> 00:19:31.410 one ever saw anyone laying them. There was no 00:19:31.410 --> 00:19:33.829 artist signature. There was no tags. Just the 00:19:33.829 --> 00:19:36.690 message over and over and over and over again. 00:19:36.769 --> 00:19:39.430 But luckily for us, three Philadelphia artists 00:19:39.430 --> 00:19:42.519 and DIY historians named Justin Dewar... John 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:45.359 Foy and Colin Smith spent years investigating 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.119 the mystery tiles and their work all came together 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.180 in this fucking incredible 2011 documentary called 00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:53.039 resurrect dead. The mystery of the 20 tiles, 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:56.400 10 out of 10 highly recommend watching it. So 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.579 here's what they discovered. Like the first, 00:19:59.579 --> 00:20:01.740 the first thing is that they dug into like the, 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:03.779 the, the phone call I mentioned earlier. Now 00:20:03.779 --> 00:20:06.240 this phone call was between columnist Clark daily 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:09.660 on and a man named James Marasco. The caller 00:20:09.660 --> 00:20:12.380 told DeLeon that he represented a group called 00:20:12.380 --> 00:20:15.500 the Minority Association, and they believed humankind 00:20:15.500 --> 00:20:18.640 could resurrect every dead person who ever lived 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.279 by colonizing Jupiter. He told them that the 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:23.900 theory came from Toynbee's writings in 2001. 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.359 So it didn't take long for investigators to be 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:29.259 like, well, this is obviously our dude. And here's 00:20:29.259 --> 00:20:32.140 the thing. James Marasco was a real guy. He was 00:20:32.140 --> 00:20:34.440 a social worker in his 70s living in Philly at 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:36.799 the time. But when he was finally tracked down, 00:20:36.940 --> 00:20:39.140 he denied everything, claimed he didn't know 00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:43.240 anything about any damn tiles. So either Marasco 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:45.119 was lying or someone had been using his name 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.339 as a cover. Spoiler alert, it's the second one. 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:51.039 I mean, like, wouldn't you deny that too, though? 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:55.339 Yeah, right. I would deny that immediately. I'd 00:20:55.339 --> 00:20:58.519 be like, no, I wasn't doing that. It's cool, 00:20:58.579 --> 00:21:00.230 though, right? It wasn't him, though. It was 00:21:00.230 --> 00:21:03.690 someone was using his name as like a code name. 00:21:03.849 --> 00:21:06.509 So it was a dead end on that. But luckily, our 00:21:06.509 --> 00:21:08.710 trio of investigators aren't so easily deterred. 00:21:08.710 --> 00:21:12.690 Through interviews, FOIA requests, maybe dumpster 00:21:12.690 --> 00:21:15.210 diving, probably, and just general madness, they 00:21:15.210 --> 00:21:19.589 triangulated on a name. Severino Seve Verna. 00:21:19.730 --> 00:21:23.279 He was a reclusive dude from South Philly. Here 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.259 are the reasons why they believe Seve was the 00:21:25.259 --> 00:21:28.140 guy. For starters, a few tiles from the 80s, 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:30.720 including one in Santiago, Chile, had an address 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:33.740 baked into them, and that address led to a South 00:21:33.740 --> 00:21:36.740 Philly row home owned by the Verna family. Then 00:21:36.740 --> 00:21:38.779 there was his car. Multiple neighbors described 00:21:38.779 --> 00:21:41.720 Seve's car as having no passenger seat, no floor 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:44.900 on the passenger side, and a big -ass radio antenna 00:21:44.900 --> 00:21:46.819 strapped to the roof. Now, you're probably wondering, 00:21:46.940 --> 00:21:49.740 why does the antenna matter? Well, one thing 00:21:49.740 --> 00:21:51.339 I haven't mentioned yet is that in the early 00:21:51.339 --> 00:21:54.460 80s, shortwave radio enthusiasts reported bizarre 00:21:54.460 --> 00:21:57.480 transmissions in Philly ranting about, you guessed 00:21:57.480 --> 00:21:59.539 it, resurrecting the dead on planet Jupiter. 00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:03.000 And when Doo and his team traced those broadcasts, 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:04.799 they seemed to have originated in the general 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.000 area of Seve's house. And then finally, there 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.119 were praxis tiles all around his house. Like 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:12.859 some neighbors even remembered seeing the word 00:22:12.859 --> 00:22:17.170 Toynbee on discarded pieces of linoleum. Was 00:22:17.170 --> 00:22:19.769 Seve ever caught in the act, though? No. He was 00:22:19.769 --> 00:22:21.549 like a phantom, and he never publicly commented, 00:22:21.710 --> 00:22:23.849 and he never confessed. And I think that's kind 00:22:23.849 --> 00:22:27.049 of rad. Seve ran a decades -long public art campaign 00:22:27.049 --> 00:22:29.369 and managed to stay anonymous the entire time. 00:22:29.990 --> 00:22:32.849 But today, most Toynbee researchers agree that 00:22:32.849 --> 00:22:35.529 Seve Verna is the guy. But because he never admitted 00:22:35.529 --> 00:22:37.670 it, and because the whole project was so secretive, 00:22:37.690 --> 00:22:40.150 the myth just kind of lives on. And honestly, 00:22:40.250 --> 00:22:42.789 that's kind of the way it should be. You know 00:22:42.789 --> 00:22:45.589 what I'm saying? Wow. He's the Banksy of tiles. 00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:49.450 pretty much yeah without the hype though i feel 00:22:49.450 --> 00:22:52.750 like well i mean it's just so bizarre that he's 00:22:52.750 --> 00:22:54.769 doing this mysterious thing and all stuff and 00:22:54.769 --> 00:22:58.890 his address is printed on them yeah isn't that 00:22:58.890 --> 00:23:01.069 weird isn't that like a real i mean you're gonna 00:23:01.069 --> 00:23:03.869 go through the trouble of taking out your passenger 00:23:03.869 --> 00:23:06.670 seat putting a hole in your floor attaching a 00:23:06.670 --> 00:23:10.650 bizarre antenna and then you're going to accidentally 00:23:10.650 --> 00:23:12.890 print your license plate on these tiles. I mean, 00:23:12.890 --> 00:23:14.369 your address on these tiles. Doesn't that seem 00:23:14.369 --> 00:23:17.109 odd? They still, but I mean, it was kind of successful 00:23:17.109 --> 00:23:19.630 because no one found him. That's true. I guess 00:23:19.630 --> 00:23:23.529 so. That's really strange. Yeah. But it also 00:23:23.529 --> 00:23:25.230 leads us to the million dollar question. And 00:23:25.230 --> 00:23:27.390 that's Dave. Hold up. Hold up for just a second. 00:23:27.410 --> 00:23:29.430 There's somebody making a lot of noise in my 00:23:29.430 --> 00:23:31.750 yard. Hold on. Sorry about that. My son was like 00:23:31.750 --> 00:23:35.130 going ham on the fucking trampoline. I'm like, 00:23:35.170 --> 00:23:37.329 dude, I'm going to record. I'm going to record 00:23:37.329 --> 00:23:39.319 at two 30. And he's like, okay. I would love 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:46.880 to eat ham on a trampoline. So, like I was saying, 00:23:47.059 --> 00:23:50.640 what was he trying to say? Did he actually believe 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:52.759 the dead could be resurrected? It fucking seemed 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:54.440 like it, but maybe it was all just a metaphor, 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:56.240 or maybe it was something else entirely. But 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.619 depending on who you ask, the Toynbee tiles could 00:23:58.619 --> 00:24:01.099 be a number of different things, from some sort 00:24:01.099 --> 00:24:03.920 of grand philosophical project to a sci -fi cult's 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.750 recruitment campaign. So let's break down some 00:24:06.750 --> 00:24:09.670 of those like schools of thought. First is that 00:24:09.670 --> 00:24:11.710 he was just an outside artist, like the tiles 00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:14.150 with their hand cut letters, bold color choices 00:24:14.150 --> 00:24:17.349 and total disregard for legality. Some of them 00:24:17.349 --> 00:24:19.190 read like a manifesto dropped into the middle 00:24:19.190 --> 00:24:21.390 of city life. It's basically like a long running 00:24:21.390 --> 00:24:23.869 art installation. But he was using like public 00:24:23.869 --> 00:24:26.170 infrastructure as his gallery, which is kind 00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:28.609 of rad as hell. Yeah, I love I love street art. 00:24:28.650 --> 00:24:31.619 You know, that's cool. But. such a distinct thing. 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:33.539 Like you could be resurrected on Jupiter. It 00:24:33.539 --> 00:24:35.700 just doesn't seem like it's a metaphor for anything. 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:37.880 I mean, these tiles went over big in the gay 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:44.240 frog community. Man, the planet of Jupiter littered 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:47.000 with the corpses of gay frogs. They were trying 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:53.319 so hard. But then you got like, you got the, 00:24:53.380 --> 00:24:55.839 there's like a darker angle and that's the, the, 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:59.019 the Tyler wasn't just quirky, but he was. probably 00:24:59.019 --> 00:25:02.039 unwell like some of the longer tiles go way off 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.119 the rails there was rants about the u .s media 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:08.079 again the the hellion jews the mafia uh and elaborate 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.519 conspiracies to try and silence him there are 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:12.819 tiles that beg people to murder all journalists 00:25:12.819 --> 00:25:15.799 others they like i said say submit and obey and 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:17.240 then there's the one that just ends with you 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:20.660 must make in late 20 tiles uh yeah so this wasn't 00:25:20.660 --> 00:25:23.039 just like i have an idea and i'm sharing it it 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.519 was i'm being hunted the world is against me 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:27.380 and only you can help me spread the truth before 00:25:27.380 --> 00:25:30.559 they kill me kind of thing sharing it is such 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.140 a funny way to describe it yeah the only thing 00:25:32.140 --> 00:25:33.819 i'm thinking of though is that like it's kind 00:25:33.819 --> 00:25:38.519 of an ingenious delivery system if like if there's 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.119 a lot of if there's a lot of confidence in the 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.599 way that it came about like dropping it through 00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:47.049 the car and then covering it with tar paper so 00:25:47.049 --> 00:25:50.589 that other cars would unearth it. All of that 00:25:50.589 --> 00:25:54.369 leads to a mental organization that I feel like 00:25:54.369 --> 00:25:56.730 somebody who believes in this insanity probably 00:25:56.730 --> 00:25:59.630 wouldn't have. Yeah, this is definitely more 00:25:59.630 --> 00:26:02.190 like on the artist kind of. side for me i think 00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:04.990 right yeah but if you do lean towards this view 00:26:04.990 --> 00:26:07.289 like the tiles are a glimpse of like pretty much 00:26:07.289 --> 00:26:10.349 into a paranoid unraveling mind that like is 00:26:10.349 --> 00:26:12.690 clearly that's what it seems like that's what 00:26:12.690 --> 00:26:14.650 it seems like yeah for sure like the new york 00:26:14.650 --> 00:26:20.529 post then there was like there was like a hot 00:26:20.529 --> 00:26:22.230 minute there where people thought that this was 00:26:22.230 --> 00:26:24.250 the work of like a weird cult or like a secret 00:26:24.250 --> 00:26:27.630 society uh like early tiles mentioned and he 00:26:27.630 --> 00:26:29.430 mentioned in his phone call the minority association 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.619 One tile named the Philadelphia Address. Another 00:26:33.619 --> 00:26:36.880 referenced Dover, UK as a safe house. Some folks 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.019 thought that the Toynbee tiles were the breadcrumb 00:26:39.019 --> 00:26:41.099 trail for a real life like underground belief 00:26:41.099 --> 00:26:43.839 system. Kind of like if like Heaven's Gate took 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:46.759 up arts and crafts kind of thing going on. OK, 00:26:46.779 --> 00:26:49.559 I mean, they kind of did. They had a they had 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.359 a robust website system. That website's still 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.519 up, dude. It's wild. Yeah, I know. I just checked 00:26:55.519 --> 00:27:00.339 it. So it did. yeah i mean i guess this is kind 00:27:00.339 --> 00:27:02.480 of the you know you're giving us the summary 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.960 but did anyone go through these with as much 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.980 evidence as possible and say here's what this 00:27:09.980 --> 00:27:12.880 guy might have been going through here's why 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.420 he said this like did they pull all this and 00:27:15.420 --> 00:27:19.019 have like a generalized theory about what the 00:27:19.019 --> 00:27:20.779 guy was trying to say i know you kind of gave 00:27:20.779 --> 00:27:22.880 me a general summary but i thought maybe there'd 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.900 be like a specific thing not really because no 00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:26.700 one's ever talked to the dude so no one i mean 00:27:26.700 --> 00:27:30.240 you can all of this is just like conjecture and 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.200 i know i know i'm wondering if someone laid out 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.119 all the text and was like here's what happened 00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:36.859 and they kind of figured it out but i know that's 00:27:36.859 --> 00:27:38.779 difficult like i wonder if you could do that 00:27:38.779 --> 00:27:42.140 better now with ai like putting it together and 00:27:42.140 --> 00:27:45.339 have ai find patterns in it yeah maybe it's possible 00:27:46.819 --> 00:27:49.380 What sucks now is that, we'll get to it, but 00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:52.880 most of these don't exist anymore. I was going 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.880 to say. Philadelphia is always redoing their 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.019 streets. A lot of these no longer exist. The 00:27:59.019 --> 00:28:01.880 fact that I found one today, I actually asked 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:04.079 the dude who made the documentary where to find 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.359 one, and he gave me the address. They're hard 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.940 to find. That's awesome. Just a real quick thing 00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:15.849 for Sarge. Is there AI that finds patterns in 00:28:15.849 --> 00:28:18.769 notes and stuff? Yeah, so the police kind of 00:28:18.769 --> 00:28:24.769 use it when comparing online stuff. So if somebody 00:28:24.769 --> 00:28:28.549 makes threats online, you can run it through. 00:28:28.630 --> 00:28:31.269 I forget what the program's called, but essentially 00:28:31.269 --> 00:28:35.390 what they can do is look at the word usage, look 00:28:35.390 --> 00:28:37.430 at the punctuation, and a bunch of different 00:28:37.430 --> 00:28:40.029 things like that. Oh, okay. Punctuation's not 00:28:40.029 --> 00:28:43.420 going to work, but you can look through. um the 00:28:43.420 --> 00:28:45.980 word pattern the word choices the sentence structure 00:28:45.980 --> 00:28:49.240 all that stuff and you can sort of compare and 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:51.720 then find similarities so you could you could 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.099 find you know crazy rantings from one person 00:28:55.099 --> 00:28:57.779 go through the entire document and then compare 00:28:57.779 --> 00:29:00.740 it to other rantings you might find online and 00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:03.859 then say okay i can say with some degree of confidence 00:29:03.859 --> 00:29:06.559 that the person who wrote this also wrote these 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.339 things online wow i'm thinking with the 20 tiles 00:29:09.339 --> 00:29:12.119 you might be able to take like all the tiles 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.920 yeah analyze them uh analyze the text separately 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:20.180 and then say you know can you know somewhat conclusively 00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:22.160 okay these were all done by the same person or 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:24.220 this was done by a collective okay see i was 00:29:24.220 --> 00:29:25.859 i was wondering if it was the type of thing where 00:29:25.859 --> 00:29:28.880 like the golden state killer like coded messages 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.799 could have been figured out you know what i mean 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:35.400 oh uh you mean uh zodiac yeah zodiac well i think 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.779 yeah that's actually how they that's how um they 00:29:37.779 --> 00:29:40.240 had code breakers do that but it's not it wouldn't 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.769 be too far off wow that's cool That's really 00:29:42.769 --> 00:29:44.630 cool. Yeah. I was just wondering about that. 00:29:44.710 --> 00:29:47.049 Yeah. I never heard about this guy way too much 00:29:47.049 --> 00:29:50.650 credit. Well, I mean, we might not be either 00:29:50.650 --> 00:29:53.170 pants shittingly insane or just like an artist 00:29:53.170 --> 00:29:55.430 having a good time. Yeah. Right. But there's 00:29:55.430 --> 00:29:57.049 also, there's also people that argue that we've 00:29:57.049 --> 00:29:59.910 all been taking the messages like way too literally 00:29:59.910 --> 00:30:02.329 that the whole resurrect the dead on Jupiter 00:30:02.329 --> 00:30:04.490 thing was more symbolic than anything. Like it 00:30:04.490 --> 00:30:06.849 was like a metaphor. And here's how, like, if 00:30:06.849 --> 00:30:08.670 you read it more as a metaphor, how it would 00:30:08.670 --> 00:30:10.589 kind of read. So you got the Toynbee idea, which 00:30:10.589 --> 00:30:12.829 equals humanity's potential to overcome death 00:30:12.829 --> 00:30:14.930 and destruction. And then you have Kubrick's 00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:17.829 2001, which would be equal like our next evolutionary 00:30:17.829 --> 00:30:20.970 leap. And then resurrect dead on Jupiter is more 00:30:20.970 --> 00:30:23.930 like a poetic call to reclaim what we've lost 00:30:23.930 --> 00:30:26.650 and build something better for ourselves. Yeah, 00:30:26.730 --> 00:30:28.430 it's not like a how -to manual. It's more like 00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:31.599 a piece of aspirational sci -fi. philosophy like 00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.880 saying shoot for the moon but way more insane 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.240 and you know what i mean yeah i'm gonna be honest 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.259 i'm so glad that you came through on telling 00:30:40.259 --> 00:30:42.279 us what the metaphor was because if you just 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.180 left that open i would have been thinking about 00:30:44.180 --> 00:30:48.059 this shit for hours what the fuck does jupiter 00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:50.720 mean yeah yeah right but then there's my personal 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.960 favorite theory and that's he just wanted to 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.339 leave something behind like it's not a cult it's 00:30:55.339 --> 00:30:57.660 not a conspiracy it's not a manifesto it's just 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.259 something to make people stop in the middle of 00:31:00.259 --> 00:31:02.700 a crosswalk and go like, what the fuck is this? 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.759 In that way, the Toynbee tiles did work. They 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.700 made me curious, made people dig into it, made 00:31:10.700 --> 00:31:13.140 us think about life, death, resurrection, art, 00:31:13.220 --> 00:31:15.900 even fucking roads and sidewalks and shit. That's 00:31:15.900 --> 00:31:18.519 an interesting aspect of it. I think that some 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.460 artists are more like, especially street artists, 00:31:21.579 --> 00:31:23.839 are more like, well, what can I put out there 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.920 that will make people... curious you know i mean 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:28.819 and that's part of the art like i you know i 00:31:28.819 --> 00:31:31.640 held up that sticker earlier i i love shepherd 00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:35.559 fairy um and he came up with the under the giant 00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:38.079 you know under the giant has a posse obey stuff 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.339 and that was in providence and i'm from rhode 00:31:40.339 --> 00:31:43.599 island so i read about it and when it first started 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:45.500 he just started putting the andre the giant obey 00:31:45.500 --> 00:31:48.099 stuff all over the place and people were like 00:31:48.849 --> 00:31:50.190 Basically, I guess when it started, we're like, 00:31:50.289 --> 00:31:52.829 what is this? Is this a gang? Are people warning 00:31:52.829 --> 00:31:56.109 us? They took it as this very ominous thing. 00:31:56.730 --> 00:32:02.190 And this local paper, a local paper in Providence 00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:04.269 basically was like, if anyone has any information 00:32:04.269 --> 00:32:06.289 about the guy who's doing this, we're trying 00:32:06.289 --> 00:32:08.190 to figure it out. And they were worried. They 00:32:08.190 --> 00:32:10.769 were nervous. And so Shepard Fairey himself actually 00:32:10.769 --> 00:32:13.109 reached out to the paper and was like, I'm just 00:32:13.109 --> 00:32:16.000 doing this for fun. I just like the image. uh 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.440 it's obviously it's counterculture you know the 00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.539 obey is sarcastic he's like it's just about like 00:32:21.539 --> 00:32:24.200 punk rock uh street art and having a good time 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.119 so it wasn't ominous at all but they took it 00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.259 that way first and this is kind of similar except 00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:31.660 the actual inscriptions are much more negative 00:32:31.660 --> 00:32:34.359 and ominous yeah yeah but i honestly i dig that 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.000 energy like i love the i love the idea of being 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.460 like i'm just gonna put this weird shit on the 00:32:39.460 --> 00:32:42.079 ground yeah people are gonna stop and read it 00:32:42.329 --> 00:32:44.410 because they don't know what it means. And then 00:32:44.410 --> 00:32:46.450 the news is going to pick it up and everyone's 00:32:46.450 --> 00:32:48.930 going to panic because people are idiots. That's 00:32:48.930 --> 00:32:52.029 the thing. So that's kind of what I think some 00:32:52.029 --> 00:32:54.170 people go for. Yeah, it's just acts of public 00:32:54.170 --> 00:32:57.349 weirdness that catch your attention. It's basically 00:32:57.349 --> 00:33:00.069 what's going on. Right. I've dedicated my life 00:33:00.069 --> 00:33:02.529 to it. Yeah, for this guy, he never said a word 00:33:02.529 --> 00:33:05.230 in public. He never took credit. And maybe he 00:33:05.230 --> 00:33:07.309 just wanted to matter just for a minute. You 00:33:07.309 --> 00:33:10.170 know what I mean? but also being a mysterious 00:33:10.170 --> 00:33:12.329 figure. And it's kind of perfect. I love this 00:33:12.329 --> 00:33:14.009 theory that he's just a dude who just wanted 00:33:14.009 --> 00:33:16.549 to make an impact for however long he could. 00:33:17.109 --> 00:33:19.970 Now, like I said, many of the Toynbee tiles have 00:33:19.970 --> 00:33:22.609 crumbled under decades of traffic and road work, 00:33:22.670 --> 00:33:25.150 but the mystery refuses to die. And the reason 00:33:25.150 --> 00:33:28.470 for that is because new tiles keep showing up. 00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:31.240 Uh, sometimes they look like the classics. Other 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.180 times there's something else entirely. Like for 00:33:33.180 --> 00:33:36.119 example, starting in the 2010s, a new wave of 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.160 tiles began appearing stamped with a signature 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.420 house of Hades. Now these aren't exact copies 00:33:41.420 --> 00:33:43.819 of the original. They're way weirder, uh, sometimes 00:33:43.819 --> 00:33:47.079 cruder and often much more graphic. Uh, some 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:49.539 features sexually explicit borders, political 00:33:49.539 --> 00:33:52.960 rants, or just random shit like house of Hades 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.160 tiles made from the ground bones of dead journalists. 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.240 That's probably one of my favorite ones. So it's 00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.869 like Twitter. Yeah, I like that one too. But 00:33:59.869 --> 00:34:02.630 unlike the OG Tyler, House of Hades is reportedly 00:34:02.630 --> 00:34:05.089 a group, or at least they kind of operate like 00:34:05.089 --> 00:34:07.809 one. They've been known to mail tile kits to 00:34:07.809 --> 00:34:09.389 people in different cities, and you can find 00:34:09.389 --> 00:34:12.449 their stuff in Philly, NYC, Detroit, even out 00:34:12.449 --> 00:34:16.300 west. Meanwhile, a few new Toynbee -style tiles, 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:18.659 like the classic format with the original message, 00:34:18.780 --> 00:34:20.780 still appear now and then, mostly in Philly, 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.460 leading some to believe the original tiler might 00:34:23.460 --> 00:34:26.340 still be around, just older, quieter, just not 00:34:26.340 --> 00:34:28.739 quite done with his little art project. Now, 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.719 whether it's him or a devoted imitator, the message 00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:35.019 remains the same. Toynbee idea in movie 2001, 00:34:35.460 --> 00:34:39.019 resurrect dead on planet Jupiter. So there you 00:34:39.019 --> 00:34:41.380 have it, guys. That is the story. The mystery 00:34:41.380 --> 00:34:43.280 of the Toynbee tiles. How are we feeling about 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.659 it? I love it. I think it's... That was so cool. 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.619 I think it's really fun. I like the aspect of 00:34:49.619 --> 00:34:52.760 the art and the curiosity factor. I do think 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.619 that's fun. Yeah. I just, from my own perspective, 00:34:55.860 --> 00:34:57.460 if I was going to do something like that, and 00:34:57.460 --> 00:34:59.940 I'm not saying I'm planning on it. Well, if you 00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:01.460 hit up House of Hades, they'll send you a tile 00:35:01.460 --> 00:35:03.760 kit in the mail. So there you go. You can do 00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.920 whatever you want. But wouldn't it be fun to 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:07.539 do it, like, let's say over the course of like 00:35:07.539 --> 00:35:09.510 a year? And you keep dropping them in different 00:35:09.510 --> 00:35:12.070 places. And eventually they form a complete puzzle. 00:35:12.230 --> 00:35:14.869 Not physical puzzle, but like a story or something. 00:35:14.929 --> 00:35:16.510 Yeah, that would be cool. That would be cool. 00:35:16.670 --> 00:35:25.590 You know what I mean? Jesus fucking Christ. I 00:35:25.590 --> 00:35:28.449 think you should put just like all the most fucked 00:35:28.449 --> 00:35:32.170 up well -known porn. Like Lemon Party, Two Girls, 00:35:32.190 --> 00:35:34.659 One Cup. It's just everywhere. One guy, one jar. 00:35:34.900 --> 00:35:37.400 Just screenshots of that, but in front of like 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:41.300 Marjorie Taylor Greene's house. Exactly. And 00:35:41.300 --> 00:35:43.159 put someone's... And you know what? Censor them 00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.380 all. All the genitals, censor them. But with 00:35:45.380 --> 00:35:48.079 someone random's face. Like Barbara Walters. 00:35:48.300 --> 00:35:50.320 You know what I mean? It's like, what is this 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.460 guy saying about Barbara Walters? You know? That'd 00:35:52.460 --> 00:35:55.079 be fun. Or like censor it with a rainbow flag. 00:35:55.980 --> 00:35:58.519 Because they hate rainbow flags and they want 00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:00.300 them gone, but if they pull it away, they're 00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:02.059 going to see Goatsy's ass. And you know what? 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.840 Little... Little frog holding the flag. Oh, there 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.159 we go. It came full circle. Full circle, baby. 00:36:10.860 --> 00:36:13.980 All right. So you guys dig this? It was a little 00:36:13.980 --> 00:36:15.500 different. We don't normally talk about mysteries, 00:36:15.780 --> 00:36:19.300 but yeah, it was fun. It was awesome. Yeah. I 00:36:19.300 --> 00:36:20.860 remember I watched that documentary when it came 00:36:20.860 --> 00:36:23.300 out in 2011, and it's one of the reasons why 00:36:23.300 --> 00:36:26.519 I got into like weird mystery shit. So basically, 00:36:26.619 --> 00:36:28.119 if it wasn't for Tomby Tiles, I don't think I'd 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.440 be here doing this show with you guys. So shout 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.619 out to whoever does the Tomby Tiles. I like it. 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:35.960 Nice work. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, there you have 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.059 it. That's it. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Chuck, 00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.679 before we sign off, normally we would plug our 00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:43.019 stuff, but I feel like it's only appropriate 00:36:43.019 --> 00:36:46.099 for you to plug your stuff. So what do you got 00:36:46.099 --> 00:36:49.280 going on? Hell yeah. I appreciate it. So basically, 00:36:49.420 --> 00:36:52.239 yeah, I'm I am a host of the podcast Fun Bearable 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.360 with comedians Ray Harrington and Brad Rohr. 00:36:54.659 --> 00:36:57.239 It's a really fun time. We have a lot of our 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.480 friends on like Mark Norman, comedian Joe List, 00:37:00.699 --> 00:37:03.960 Mike Cannon. And the guys from the Tell Them 00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.820 Steve Dave podcast, which I'm also involved in. 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.519 I host a couple of shows in their Patreon. And 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.639 yeah, it's a very fun podcast. Funbearablepod 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.159 .com is where to find it. And we are doing a 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.420 live show on June 1st at the Comedy Connection 00:37:17.420 --> 00:37:20.159 in East Providence, Rhode Island. Nice. Our live 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.280 shows are very bizarre. We do a lot of pranks. 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.699 We do a lot of segments. It's not really a podcast 00:37:25.699 --> 00:37:27.480 live. It's more of like an improv and sketch 00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.960 thing. Very alternative. our goal is kind of 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:32.840 like whenever people come out to one of our shows 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.900 we want them not to know what they expect that's 00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:38.460 so cool yeah we did uh well it's funny we have 00:37:38.460 --> 00:37:40.320 the same you know we have narragansett as a sponsor 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.280 on our podcast too that's how we got linked up 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.420 yeah yeah and one of the things that's that happened 00:37:45.420 --> 00:37:49.280 was uh cam our wonderful rep wonderful guy he 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.900 went to our live show last year oh he's the best 00:37:51.900 --> 00:37:56.349 and um for the close of our live show What we 00:37:56.349 --> 00:37:58.449 did was we took my buddy Brad, who's on the podcast, 00:37:58.610 --> 00:38:01.730 we took his image and we made a fake advertisement 00:38:01.730 --> 00:38:05.610 for him having his own hot dog cart. And we made 00:38:05.610 --> 00:38:07.929 these advertisements like postcards and we sent 00:38:07.929 --> 00:38:09.630 them out all across the country to different 00:38:09.630 --> 00:38:12.929 hot dog places saying, I'm going to run you on 00:38:12.929 --> 00:38:14.369 a business. Like, you don't know what you're 00:38:14.369 --> 00:38:17.610 doing. We wrote to like the, we wrote to like 00:38:17.610 --> 00:38:20.230 the FDA and said like, Hey, I have this illegal 00:38:20.230 --> 00:38:22.190 hot dog business. I keep them all in my bathtub. 00:38:22.369 --> 00:38:24.550 Will you guys please approve me? A ton of stuff 00:38:24.550 --> 00:38:28.570 like that. And we actually wrote to his favorite 00:38:28.570 --> 00:38:32.030 hot dog place growing up in Indiana. And the 00:38:32.030 --> 00:38:36.369 place is called Boz's. And he wrote like, I used 00:38:36.369 --> 00:38:38.670 to look up to you. Now I'm here to take the throne, 00:38:38.809 --> 00:38:40.329 blah, blah, blah, and all this stuff. And it 00:38:40.329 --> 00:38:42.829 ended with, you might want to check the paper 00:38:42.829 --> 00:38:45.130 tomorrow. And we took out an ad on the paper 00:38:45.130 --> 00:38:48.630 there. And above the advertisement, it says. 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.219 better than bozz's and then it has the advertisement 00:38:52.219 --> 00:38:55.940 for his hot dog truck and he went there he went 00:38:55.940 --> 00:38:58.900 there later on and as soon as he walked in he 00:38:58.900 --> 00:39:00.280 said the first person that worked there that 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.679 saw him said are you brad from brad's brats and 00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:06.960 they knew it right away but we do yeah we do 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.960 a lot of fun stuff like that at the live show 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:10.739 the reason i brought up narragansett is because 00:39:10.739 --> 00:39:15.179 i we're gonna try to get cans made of the brad's 00:39:15.179 --> 00:39:19.809 brats logo as like a uh A non -alcoholic hot 00:39:19.809 --> 00:39:22.730 dog seltzer, which I think would be awesome. 00:39:22.809 --> 00:39:25.690 But we're not going to actually sell it. What's 00:39:25.690 --> 00:39:27.530 going to be inside, hopefully, is a hot dog scented 00:39:27.530 --> 00:39:30.309 candle. That's our plan right now. Oh, my God. 00:39:30.369 --> 00:39:32.650 That is such a good idea. Yeah. So if you're 00:39:32.650 --> 00:39:35.449 in the New England area, thank you. Massachusetts, 00:39:35.570 --> 00:39:37.650 Connecticut, Rhode Island, come on out Sunday, 00:39:37.769 --> 00:39:39.590 June 1st at the Comedy Connection, East Providence, 00:39:39.630 --> 00:39:42.449 Rhode Island. It's a great comedy club. Amazing 00:39:42.449 --> 00:39:45.510 comedy club. Go to funbearablepod .com for tickets. 00:39:46.669 --> 00:39:49.389 Yeah, I'm in the New England area. I'll make 00:39:49.389 --> 00:39:51.949 my way down there. You should. Dude, it is really 00:39:51.949 --> 00:39:54.329 fun. It is really fun. And usually, I always 00:39:54.329 --> 00:39:56.630 say to people, if you're traveling, because a 00:39:56.630 --> 00:39:58.010 lot of people come from New York to come to our 00:39:58.010 --> 00:40:00.210 shows, I go, if you're traveling, let's all go 00:40:00.210 --> 00:40:01.809 out to dinner afterwards. And we usually go to 00:40:01.809 --> 00:40:03.869 a really cool late night pizza spot. I'm in. 00:40:04.309 --> 00:40:06.590 Yeah, man. It's good stuff. I'm sure Cam will 00:40:06.590 --> 00:40:07.969 be there too. So Cam will be hanging out. I'll 00:40:07.969 --> 00:40:10.650 report back on the podcast afterwards. Love it. 00:40:10.809 --> 00:40:13.710 Hell yeah. Yeah, so be sure to check out funbearablepod 00:40:13.710 --> 00:40:17.199 .com. Is that what it is? that's right yeah all 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:18.760 right yeah so check that out get tickets to the 00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.460 live show i'll put a link uh to the website in 00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:22.960 the episode description so you can easily find 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.960 it um yes if they want to follow you on social 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.119 media where can they find you i'm at discount 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.179 chuck on instagram and twitter hell yeah and 00:40:31.179 --> 00:40:33.380 the i think it's at fun bearable pod for the 00:40:33.380 --> 00:40:36.539 podcast instagram yep that's all the socials 00:40:36.539 --> 00:40:39.599 youtube instagram everything Awesome. And if 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.840 you want to follow us on social media, we really 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.519 only do Instagram and TikTok. It's at cryptic 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.539 cocktail on Instagram, at cryptic cocktail party 00:40:46.539 --> 00:40:49.179 on TikTok. If you want to follow Sarge, you can 00:40:49.179 --> 00:40:50.420 just head to the link in our episode description. 00:40:50.539 --> 00:40:53.360 All of his social media is on there. Sarge, you 00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:54.880 want to plug your coloring book before we go? 00:40:55.179 --> 00:40:57.679 Yeah, the coloring book is still alive because 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:02.579 we live in a dystopian hellscape. Sarge's supernormal 00:41:02.579 --> 00:41:06.369 .com. You can color all of your favorite political 00:41:06.369 --> 00:41:10.389 enemies in any way you'd like. Barbara Walters, 00:41:10.389 --> 00:41:12.730 everybody. Or you could just roll one up and 00:41:12.730 --> 00:41:15.329 hit somebody who was a MAGA right over the head. 00:41:15.429 --> 00:41:19.690 Don't actually do that. That's a crime. But it'd 00:41:19.690 --> 00:41:23.210 be cool if you did it. So, sagesupernormal .com, 00:41:23.349 --> 00:41:26.710 $9 .99. It's better than a Volkswagen full of 00:41:26.710 --> 00:41:31.110 nuns. I believe it. They're annoying. And with 00:41:31.110 --> 00:41:33.849 that out of the way, normally Sarge says goodbye 00:41:33.849 --> 00:41:35.150 and I love you to the audience, but Chuck, do 00:41:35.150 --> 00:41:36.530 you want to do the honors of saying goodbye and 00:41:36.530 --> 00:41:39.309 I love you to the audience? Goodbye and I love 00:41:39.309 --> 00:41:39.429 you.